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Oh, God. Oh, my God.

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Tell you what, I ate a lot of tacos in the 90s.

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They were popping.

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There's a hair on my microphone.

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Gross. Is it mine?

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No, I think it was one of the like rosies or something.

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OK, that's better, I suppose.

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Depends where on Rosie.

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Hmm. True.

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Not all dog hair is the same.

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But but hair, but hair.

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Things haven't changed that much over here.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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So, Darrell, do you have a strong feeling one way or the other on these movies?

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I know this is our comedy bracket.

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I'm the big fan of both, to be honest.

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Weatherman.

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I think low key one of my favorite cage films.

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It might actually be.

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It's a good film.

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Yeah.

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There's so many things throughout that movie that I forgot until I turned it on.

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I was like, oh, wait, I'm a see some fucking chicken nuggets

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slapping him in the face. That's going to be good.

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That's what we come for.

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I still want to believe that brands paid to have like

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stuff thrown on Nick Cage.

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Yeah. I mean, he talks about Frosty's a lot.

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And he goes into an Arby's to get Arby's coffee.

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Well, he was trying to get change.

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I know.

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It's also so weird to think about.

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There was a time not that long ago where you needed cash.

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It's true.

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Do you think Arby's coffee is just like as you beefed?

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That's just as you.

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I was just thinking that'd be great.

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That would be a way better marketing if they just sold like a cup of as you

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caffeinated as you could take your roast beef and dip it.

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I want caffeinated gravy.

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Yeah. Isn't that a red eye gravy?

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Is that what that is?

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Yeah. It's gravy with coffee in it.

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How much coffee?

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Not enough to like get you going.

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That's not what I want.

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Well, then you just want coffee.

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Yeah, but I want it to be graveyed.

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OK, I'll do that for you, but you have to eat it all.

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You're going to make a disgusting amount.

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No, I'm going to make a normal 16 ounce cup of coffee's amount.

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That sounds horrible.

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It truly does.

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And just a cup of coffee.

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Since we've last met, I've quit drinking.

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I need new and interesting ways to hurt myself.

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Which is great, because that's where I come in.

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Blending stuff in gravy.

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This is how you get your sick kicks from gravy to the grave.

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I don't want coffee gravy.

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I want caffeinated gravy.

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The fuck are you talking about?

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You're going to get the gravy I make you.

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One of the scenes in Weatherman that I had forgotten about entirely

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and was just like, this is so strange.

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It's when Mike is eating the corn dogs and Nick Cage is like,

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what are you eating?

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Yeah, like he's never seen a corn dog before.

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So welcome back to Cage Magical on a roundabout way of meeting Nicholas Cage.

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I'm Sean here with my co-host Nick.

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I'm Nick and our producer Peter. Hello.

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And this week we have back Darrell Edge from the Cage Raid podcast

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and getting to foe you.

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Hello, hello. Yes, there's there's been more to foe since the last time.

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This cage is still caging on.

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Thank you for having me back.

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Feels like it was only yesterday you were talking to me about spiders

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and spider season.

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And I'm still mad that I know that's a thing that exists.

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Well, I can I can put your I can put your mind to ease it a little bit.

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We are currently at the start of bunny season. Yeah. It's much softer.

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Is that that's not under the name like spiders, is it?

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Because I will start throwing hands at all of you.

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No legit, you know, the Pacific Northwest rabbit.

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Yeah, like legit bunnies.

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I was like pulling out of my driveway the other day,

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and there was just a bunny in front of my car that I had to like shoe off.

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Would have been better if it was on your car. Yeah.

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Just I think just driving your car.

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I mean, that'd be a much better story for me.

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Just a rabbit, like three rabbits in a trench coat, stealing his car.

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That's still be a very short person.

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The power of three, three, anything's in a trench coat

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can do whatever it puts its mind to.

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The trench coat is what gives it the power, really.

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Yeah, it's a magical trench coat. It does make sense that way.

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Darrell, I had a question for you because I watched a movie recently

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and it did have Willem Dafoe in it, and it's a new movie.

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Have you seen Poor Things yet?

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I have indeed. Yes.

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What did you think of that movie?

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Obviously, without spoiling too much of your own work

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that you're going to do later when you actually review that.

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I loved it. I'm a big, big fan.

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Give me Deformed Dafoe any day of the week.

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Give me Deformed Daddy.

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And I'm there with bells on.

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Give me Emma Stone.

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You know, anything really big fan of Emma Stone.

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And also Mark Ruffalo, what a goddamn GM.

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So you say a deformed Dafoe.

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We've seen Dafoe with tiny teeth.

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What's the what's he bring into the table this time?

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Oh, it's something.

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Oh, my God, is it his wiener?

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No, that's too scary for everyone.

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I wish. I mean, you know, we we have a running gag on our show.

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It's not even a gag at this point.

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It's just a fact that we have to bring up the foes hog every episode

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where it does not belong.

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A lot of lies like sort of weird Frankenstein jigsawed prosthetics on the face.

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This kind of odds kind of Germanic accent fat fingers.

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This guy got a whole lot going on.

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Yeah. And no doubt that he's got a Frankenstein dig to thank God.

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Patched together all different shades.

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Do you think the stitching is like a selling point when he goes on a date?

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Like, yeah, it's got stitching, so it's like kind of all off center ribbing.

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Unintentionally ribbed for her pleasure.

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Right. Yeah.

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Don't go too hard. It might like rip something off.

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But my favorite line in that movie is when he's sort of like defending his actions.

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And he's just like, well, of course, what was I supposed to do?

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I put the baby's brain in the mother's body.

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And I was like, all right, I have no clue what this movie is about.

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When did you start talking about American politics?

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He did nothing wrong.

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We've got it coming up in a soon as we start.

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We thought to ourselves we should probably do some more recent movies

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so people listen to us. That'd be nice.

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Wait, you do this for listeners?

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Wait, what? You do this for the listeners?

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I do it to get laid.

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Actually, maybe you do it to get laid.

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I've tried. It hasn't worked yet.

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That's yeah. No, that's the thing.

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Nick Cage, podcaster is on my dating profile and everyone I like,

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whenever I bring it up with someone I'm talking to on an app, they're just like,

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wait, that's real.

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And my only response to that is ever.

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Why would I lie about that of all the things I can lie about?

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Why would I lie about that?

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I think that's where you're going wrong.

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You can't get defensive as soon as someone asks you a question

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about something you put in your own profile.

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So you were Nick Cage, podcast, a fuck you.

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Fuck. You're serious about that.

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I'm like, of course I'm serious about it.

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You should just.

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Why would I lie about that?

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Not answer with words, but answer with just a bottle of ether.

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My profile was written by three bunnies in a trench coat.

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What do you want from me?

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Now that you should add. Oh.

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So Dave Spritz, Dave Spritz,

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just like the weatherman, this conversation is full of depression.

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All right. Here we go.

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Back on track.

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Oh, if we're talking about weatherman in respect to the horrible

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American accents by English actors in this,

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I want to hear your best worst American accent.

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I mean, I feel like on behalf of all British people,

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I have to apologize for Michael Caine.

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We didn't tell him to do that.

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I remember talking about this on like when I covered this and I was like,

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you know what?

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No one's watching Michael Caine for an accent.

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You know what I mean?

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Let Michael Caine be Michael Caine just in like.

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Nicholas, your daughter's got a camel toe.

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What is this? Still does.

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Like that would have been great.

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That would have been fine. Sucking and fucking and chucking rocks.

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Fucking good. What is this all about?

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It's much better.

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It would have been fine.

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Like, you know, transatlantic relationships can happen.

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You can have a British mother, a British father, Michael Caine, father

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and American mother still produce a Nicholas Cage.

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Now you're asking my own best and worst American.

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I don't know. I feel like any time

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someone English tries to do an American accent,

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it's going to end up being some kind of California surfer.

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Yeah, dear.

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Kind of stuff like that.

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Or it's going to be.

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I don't know.

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I'm walking here.

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Is that did I sound like I'm one of you?

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Did I sound good?

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Was that convincing?

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Yeah, exactly. I heard that as I came over here.

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Like the gold standard for me is like the Hugh Laurie house.

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Oh, it's like a bad.

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Yeah, it's just like this is generic American.

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Yeah, it always feels like you have to move your mouth in a really weird way.

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I don't know. It just sounds so strange.

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Yeah, it just sounds like anytime you guys talk,

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it's just a massive struggle to keep that accent going.

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You can stop faking it, guys.

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Oh, thanks. Fuck.

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Yeah, we've all actually secretly been using British accents

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for the last 250 years.

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We're like, let's not let this one go.

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I'm Greek. Yeah.

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Who said the revolution failed?

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You know, we played the long game, guys.

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We tried our best.

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So the weatherman, so the weatherman,

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it's early here.

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Yeah, I'm only on my first cup of coffee.

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It's weird going back and like thinking about a time where money was necessary.

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I said that already. Yeah, you did.

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It's fine. But yeah, like if anyone gives me cash now, I'm really annoyed with them.

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Oh, I was nothing to do with it.

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I got cash the other day because that's less cash I needed to pull out for weed.

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Oh, yeah.

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Cash to me always feels like fake money now, which is really funny,

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because if I have it, I'm like, well, I haven't thought about this.

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I'm not like going to have this deducted from my bank account anymore.

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So it's just sort of like whatever it's cash.

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Yeah, that's like just free good.

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Yeah, this isn't going on the books.

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Yeah, you could spend it on anything, anything like cheap hand jobs.

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How cheap?

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Well, I only carry I only carry one dollar usually.

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So it's going to be a weird sounds callous, a tug and rotation from below.

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Hey, you don't know what I like.

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I don't. But I know what I do.

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Like the hand grip of someone trying to start a motorcycle, just wrenching it down.

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That's the kind of stuff I'm in.

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Start at the top and pull straight down.

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Oh, like on a like a matter.

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Yeah. Yeah. Like an utter like a milking a llama.

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Yeah. Or an alpaca.

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The the boobs.

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See, this is the kind of conversation you just don't get on any other podcast.

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The one dollar hand job conversation.

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You know, cranking it.

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Yeah, this is what brings you back, a Darrell.

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And I'll come back again and again and again, because I want to know

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what two dollars can get me five dollars.

252
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I want to convert it.

253
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I was just thinking of like if you showed up with like a two dollar bill

254
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but want change, but want change.

255
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So it's is it that hard to get change?

256
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I know we're like, you know, we're all cashless society, you know, you know, twenty to twenty four.

257
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Is it that hard to get change in an Arby's?

258
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We don't have them over here.

259
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So I can only go by what this film tells me about, like a tooth.

260
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Circa two thousand and five Arby's.

261
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Will they fight you on that?

262
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No, you would be allowed to get change. Yeah.

263
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I mean, there might be some stores that have certain policies where like,

264
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I mean, the McDonald's in downtown Seattle, the third and like, yeah,

265
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you can't do anything there.

266
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No, you could probably get you could barely order food.

267
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They're drug dealers out front.

268
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Yeah, you could probably do that.

269
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You could probably get a dollar hand job.

270
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You could also probably do that.

271
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But you have to get the special code to get in the bathroom.

272
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So all right.

273
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So now it's like, what, a five dollar hand job.

274
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Could you have to buy a drink or something?

275
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You have to buy coffee.

276
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Who's wasting their time on bathrooms?

277
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It's already third and like, yeah, right.

278
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It's public. Just let it fly.

279
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Gross.

280
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Can I get the one dollar McCann job aside?

281
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A small coffee.

282
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I spill my McNuggets all over the sidewalk.

283
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Podcast is over. Yeah.

284
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Well, it ties into all the throwing of food.

285
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It does. This movie. So there you go.

286
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It's not totally.

287
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How many takes do you think those each took?

288
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Oh, yeah. Like, did they just have a ton of coats and just pelted

289
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the fuck out of him?

290
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Go over Binsky.

291
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He was throwing all the food at him off camera.

292
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Yeah, yeah. He was just catching him by surprise.

293
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No, no.

294
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So just standing there waiting in cage had to just perform.

295
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I hope they set up like a whole bunch of blinds

296
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where you didn't know where Verbin's he was going to come out of.

297
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Keep him guessing.

298
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Or what if he just wore a ghillie suit and just like on the sidewalk?

299
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I saw a dude step out of some like shrubs.

300
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Uh, it was in Queen Anne, I think,

301
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wearing a ghillie suit and a scuba mask or like a snorkel.

302
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I would actually don't know.

303
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I would actually be afraid in that situation.

304
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Yeah, that's weird.

305
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I love it.

306
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I'd have to approach the scuba man.

307
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I can't just let that go.

308
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He just like stepped out and walked away.

309
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And I was standing there waiting for a bus like

310
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just enthralled.

311
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Just did he get on the bus?

312
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No, he walked a different direction.

313
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He had no connection with me after that.

314
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It just two ships passing in the night.

315
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What was the scuba mask about?

316
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Where did he come from?

317
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Where did he go?

318
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Was this man caught on IJ?

319
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I want to.

320
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Why did you not follow him?

321
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I'm actually furious.

322
00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,980
Oh, man. I know. I really fucked that one up.

323
00:13:50,980 --> 00:13:52,480
You would have been spotted so fast, though.

324
00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,360
Yeah, I didn't have a ghillie suit.

325
00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:55,920
I don't know. You look like a lot of people.

326
00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:57,360
You would have just blended in.

327
00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:58,560
Yeah. At least once a day,

328
00:13:58,560 --> 00:14:00,700
I see someone who isn't new that I think is you.

329
00:14:00,700 --> 00:14:04,300
That's fair. You should always be suspicious of people walking around.

330
00:14:04,300 --> 00:14:05,540
They could be me.

331
00:14:05,540 --> 00:14:07,240
I know. Minor disguises.

332
00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:11,900
Terrifying. Like a snake costume with just my big fucking head on top.

333
00:14:13,680 --> 00:14:15,580
Watch out for those snakes.

334
00:14:15,580 --> 00:14:17,740
The snakes be sneaking.

335
00:14:18,980 --> 00:14:22,020
That man wriggled on his belly, unlocked his jaw,

336
00:14:22,020 --> 00:14:25,180
ate my six pack carton of eggs from the grocery store.

337
00:14:25,180 --> 00:14:29,520
Well, she had his skin slithered his forked tongue at me.

338
00:14:30,980 --> 00:14:33,020
Yeah. And all along, it was me.

339
00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:37,520
So the weatherman.

340
00:14:39,020 --> 00:14:40,960
The weatherman.

341
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Secret for Binsky, he's got some nuggets.

342
00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,560
I mean, what I always enjoy is that he just made this

343
00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:52,160
between the Pirates of the Caribbean movies, just a little quiet side thing.

344
00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:55,160
Yeah, like a sandwich cleanser as a director.

345
00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:58,600
I think it must be like how many years did he lose to like pirates?

346
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Like eight years, nine years.

347
00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:05,640
He's like, I need I need a depressed Nicholas Cage having visions of SpongeBob

348
00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,920
and just like fucking later hoes and women dressed as Abraham Lincoln.

349
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Abraham Lincoln cage in my notes, actually.

350
00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:18,420
I it's always weird when a film you get in a cage,

351
00:15:18,420 --> 00:15:23,340
but the film takes place in like a world where pop culture stuff exists.

352
00:15:23,900 --> 00:15:28,340
Oh, yeah. Like it's always like Brian Gummell, like real news guy.

353
00:15:28,380 --> 00:15:31,240
Like, OK, so does Nick Cage not exist in this universe?

354
00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:32,540
What is the rule?

355
00:15:32,540 --> 00:15:36,180
Oh, yeah. I would assume that that he wouldn't exist.

356
00:15:36,380 --> 00:15:38,580
I have a theory now, but I'll get to it later

357
00:15:39,060 --> 00:15:40,560
because it has to do with the unbearable weight.

358
00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:41,860
That makes sense.

359
00:15:41,860 --> 00:15:45,320
There were so many things in this movie that I had forgotten about that.

360
00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,620
Just kill me like the tartar sauce monologue.

361
00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:50,720
I love the tartar sauce.

362
00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:51,120
I like it.

363
00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:52,520
I'll say some guys don't.

364
00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,020
Maybe not. Like most guys don't.

365
00:15:54,020 --> 00:15:56,720
Maybe not most guys, just black guys.

366
00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:58,620
I just I remember that.

367
00:15:58,620 --> 00:15:59,660
I'll do it.

368
00:15:59,660 --> 00:16:02,560
Yeah. Yeah.

369
00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:04,740
Don't isolate that audio.

370
00:16:04,740 --> 00:16:07,200
Yeah. Don't challenge me with a good time.

371
00:16:08,300 --> 00:16:10,200
Yeah. Cancel one third of your podcast.

372
00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,400
That sounds like a bit of a laugh.

373
00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,740
If Nixon is still here, I'm not worried about it.

374
00:16:14,740 --> 00:16:17,280
It's just going to be me talking to myself.

375
00:16:17,540 --> 00:16:21,620
I have never said anything problematic on this podcast, so it's not a problem.

376
00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:24,680
Oh, God.

377
00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,520
Tartar sauce, tartar sauce, tartar sauce, tartar sauce.

378
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My hips are cold.

379
00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,200
Well, so, Darrell, you said that this is one of your favorites, actually.

380
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And I'm kind of curious about that, because obviously you've run the game

381
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that you've seen every single movie.

382
00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:42,540
So it's surprising to hear it in such high regard.

383
00:16:42,540 --> 00:16:46,600
Yeah, this is kind of I consider it one of the

384
00:16:47,340 --> 00:16:49,940
untalked about forgotten gems of Cage.

385
00:16:49,940 --> 00:16:52,840
This is like genuine good.

386
00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:55,240
And I don't know if I brought this up before.

387
00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:56,640
I've definitely brought it up on my podcast.

388
00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,220
There are certain films that I think you recommend to people

389
00:16:59,220 --> 00:17:02,360
when you want to remind them that Nicolas Cage is actually a good actor.

390
00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:05,380
And this is up there with them.

391
00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:11,800
This is kind of like just sort of a mellow, just kind of like sad, grounded Cage.

392
00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:16,740
There's not that many Cage-isms except when he's like running and throwing that pie

393
00:17:16,740 --> 00:17:18,740
at that guy like, I gotta see my family.

394
00:17:18,740 --> 00:17:20,740
They got a pie on me, man.

395
00:17:20,740 --> 00:17:22,740
Which is great.

396
00:17:22,740 --> 00:17:28,740
But it kind of comes in at some strange mid-noughties period where he's like just

397
00:17:28,740 --> 00:17:32,740
he's coming off the back of the awards or nominations for adaptation.

398
00:17:32,740 --> 00:17:34,740
He's just a national treasure.

399
00:17:34,740 --> 00:17:38,760
We are on the cusp of the straight to DVD era.

400
00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:42,760
It's this weird sort of midway point.

401
00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:46,760
I guess if you think about it, it's kind of like an interesting juxtaposition with

402
00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:52,760
the unbearable weight of massive talent because I think some may argue that this was one of

403
00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:57,760
his last good, I'm going to use air quotes there, good performances that was on at the

404
00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:03,780
cinema and then you sort of consider unbearable weight this movie where he's again, air quotes,

405
00:18:03,780 --> 00:18:05,780
he's come back.

406
00:18:05,780 --> 00:18:10,760
It's kind of this weird two tail ends of his career here.

407
00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,760
I think it's a very understated performance.

408
00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,760
It's a very underrated performance.

409
00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:20,760
Loki, I think is just a very good film that you definitely, wink, wink, cannot watch for

410
00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:22,760
full on YouTube for free.

411
00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:24,760
Wink, wink, you can't do that at all.

412
00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,760
That's definitely not how I watched it last night.

413
00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:31,760
And also, I think this is some of the best Nicolas Cage's hair has ever been in cinema

414
00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:33,760
as well.

415
00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,760
I think good, a good clean cut.

416
00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:37,760
I'm inclined to agree.

417
00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:43,760
I know some people don't like it, but it's a, it's a haircut that you've never seen on

418
00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:44,760
him before.

419
00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,760
Like it's a very youthful haircut.

420
00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:48,760
Different do.

421
00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:49,760
Yeah.

422
00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:50,760
It's very TV.

423
00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:51,760
It does it for me.

424
00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:52,760
Exactly.

425
00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,760
It's the kind of haircut I want on my weatherman.

426
00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,760
John Weatherman.

427
00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:58,760
Yeah.

428
00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:00,760
That's a TV name.

429
00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:01,760
That's a bullshit name.

430
00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:03,760
Oh, man.

431
00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:05,760
Do you think whether people actually get shit thrown at them?

432
00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,760
They seem so benign to me.

433
00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,760
I don't know that I'd recognize a weather person.

434
00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:12,760
I would throw something at Al Roker.

435
00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:13,760
Yeah.

436
00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:14,760
Fair.

437
00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:15,760
Al Roker was weather, right?

438
00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:16,760
Yeah.

439
00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:17,760
Yeah.

440
00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:18,760
I'd throw some shit at him.

441
00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:19,760
Oh, he needs to eat more.

442
00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:20,760
Well, he's too skinny.

443
00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:21,760
Look, I'm not.

444
00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:23,760
It's because he got like lap band surgery.

445
00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,760
Yeah, but he looks funny now.

446
00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:29,760
He looked better when he at least was like 50 pounds heavier.

447
00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,760
There are some people that look better with more weight on them.

448
00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:33,760
I agree with that.

449
00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:34,760
Sorry, Al Roker.

450
00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:36,760
And some people look better with a mustache.

451
00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:41,760
Some people, they've had a mustache forever and then they shave it off and you're like,

452
00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:42,760
the fuck?

453
00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:43,760
Oh, yeah.

454
00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:47,760
One of my apprentices came to work without his mustache the other week and he just looked

455
00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:48,760
like a child.

456
00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:49,760
I couldn't handle it anymore.

457
00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:50,760
Are you a Jedi master?

458
00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:51,760
What do you mean apprentice?

459
00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:52,760
Explain yourself, man.

460
00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:53,760
First, you're a snake man.

461
00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:54,760
Now you've got apprentices.

462
00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:55,760
Yeah.

463
00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:56,760
I'm a journeyman snake man.

464
00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:57,760
I train with the Jedi.

465
00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:03,560
I train other people to be public snakes with mustaches.

466
00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:04,560
My egg apprentices.

467
00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:05,560
Yeah.

468
00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,560
Well, you're not a snake.

469
00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:09,560
You have hair.

470
00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,160
Have you seen those Harry Snakes?

471
00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:13,160
Oh, boy.

472
00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,420
Never mind.

473
00:20:16,420 --> 00:20:18,440
This man is unhatched apprentice.

474
00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:23,000
Yes, he is.

475
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:28,840
I do like how we get the we get to see what happened to a little Brown Jr. and that woman

476
00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:29,840
he used to lift.

477
00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:30,840
Wait, what?

478
00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:31,840
Davis.

479
00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:33,400
That was Hope Davis.

480
00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:34,400
Yeah.

481
00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:35,400
Well, shit.

482
00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:40,200
His wife, ex-wife and this movie.

483
00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:41,200
Put it on a tombstone.

484
00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,000
His ex-wife, his ex-wife.

485
00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,000
There's actually like another grave between them.

486
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:48,000
Yeah.

487
00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:49,000
What happens if you get remarried?

488
00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,920
Do you have to like does the old body get exhumed so that your new wife can go in there?

489
00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:54,200
Do you just throw him in the same pit?

490
00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:55,200
Do you get a second?

491
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:56,200
Do you get a third plot?

492
00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,720
Can you like double decker a grave?

493
00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,840
Once you went back like bunk beds.

494
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:02,840
Yeah.

495
00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,560
Just bury the old wife a little bit deeper.

496
00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,720
You got to take a look on top deeper.

497
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,520
His wives, his wives.

498
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:12,680
You got to plan ahead for that.

499
00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,640
You start out by digging one really deep grave.

500
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:16,640
Oh, yeah.

501
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,440
This guy's like your ambition.

502
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:19,440
Yeah.

503
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,800
It's like, I know I'm getting at least three.

504
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:23,200
I'm having many divorces.

505
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:24,520
Let's get this thing deep.

506
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:28,600
It was always one of my questions about like when people are trying to explain the idea

507
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,240
of heaven to me when I was a child, like you get to meet all your loved ones.

508
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:32,600
Like, what if you get remarried?

509
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:33,600
That's an awkward conversation.

510
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:34,600
I have a later.

511
00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,160
No, everyone's chill in heaven, though.

512
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,160
You got time, I guess.

513
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:44,600
The Saint Peter just like rolls up one day to your ex-wife and is like, hey, you're needed

514
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:45,600
somewhere else.

515
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:46,880
Like, Sean's getting remarried.

516
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:47,880
You can't stay.

517
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:49,880
Like you have to go to other heaven.

518
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,040
Oh, not heaven to lesbian heaven.

519
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:54,520
Also, how fucked up is that?

520
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,400
It's like they have to be a part of your heaven.

521
00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,080
Like, where's their heaven?

522
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:03,040
Like, do you have to spend your afterlife with all of their loved ones, too?

523
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:04,040
That's a good point.

524
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:05,520
Did my aunt really like me that much?

525
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:06,520
Yeah.

526
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,520
Spend an eternity with you.

527
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:14,520
Look, I love my in-laws and all, but I'm not I'm not trying to spend eternity with them.

528
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:20,280
You got to meet those people in heaven and just like his wife, like you've had an argument

529
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:24,880
like my blowjob lacked enthusiasm because I hated you.

530
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,480
And now we're all in heaven together.

531
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:31,320
What if that's the last thing you heard before you died?

532
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,960
Like your wife tells you that you die and then the next time you see them is when they

533
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:35,960
get to heaven.

534
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:36,960
Hold on.

535
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:37,960
I do.

536
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:43,080
That was another one that like just killed me because I forgot about it.

537
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:47,040
BJ's lacked enthusiasm.

538
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:48,600
He did not wait to open that note.

539
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:49,600
Oh, man.

540
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,720
No, he was just on it right away.

541
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,560
OK, so this movie is funny.

542
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:59,080
Like I watched it last night and it's obviously it is a comedy, but I didn't laugh a single

543
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:00,280
time by myself.

544
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,120
And maybe that's just the nature of like watching something alone.

545
00:23:03,120 --> 00:23:06,360
But I was like amused and entertained, but I didn't laugh at all.

546
00:23:06,360 --> 00:23:09,520
But talking about it out loud right now, I'm like, this is pretty fucking funny.

547
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:10,520
Yeah.

548
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:11,520
Yeah.

549
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:12,520
And that's how it gets you.

550
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:17,560
I know I'm very comfortable laughing at like depression and sad things

551
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,200
because I'm a laugh at me.

552
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:21,200
Yeah.

553
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:22,200
That's why I hang out with you.

554
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,280
I feed off of it.

555
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:29,120
I think the some of this is kind of like very meta about cage as well, because there's that

556
00:23:29,120 --> 00:23:35,320
bit where he's doing some of the various like narration and also cage ASMR narration that

557
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:40,960
can put me to like comfortably to sleep like, yes, please tell me all the stories in those

558
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,560
sort of gravely deep, dulcet tones.

559
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,280
If you don't want your dad, if you don't want your dad to think you're a silly fuck, don't

560
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,480
slap a man with a glove.

561
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,240
You'd have to have a dad for that to happen first.

562
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:52,240
One nil this guy.

563
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:53,240
Yay.

564
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:54,240
Ouch.

565
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:55,240
It's okay.

566
00:23:55,240 --> 00:24:00,240
If I've laughed for 32 years, I will laugh for a 33rd.

567
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:07,240
Wait, was that a dig at me or a dig at you?

568
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:08,240
Both?

569
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:09,240
Yeah, sure.

570
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:10,240
Why not?

571
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:11,240
Who needs him?

572
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:12,240
Who needs men?

573
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:13,240
I don't need him.

574
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:18,240
I am one male father figures who needs him.

575
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:24,440
He turned out really good strong boys.

576
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,560
We are the Sad Lads Club.

577
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:27,560
Everyone.

578
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:28,560
Everyone's welcome.

579
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:29,640
Not me.

580
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:30,640
I've got a dad.

581
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:31,640
A real strong.

582
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:32,640
Fuck you, buddy.

583
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:38,360
I bet my dad could dig up your dad and beat the shit out of him any day.

584
00:24:38,360 --> 00:24:40,520
You know what?

585
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:41,760
I want your dad and my dad to fight.

586
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,320
I'm just going to throw my dad's like ashes in your dad's face.

587
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:49,960
It'll get all caught up in his fucking manly ass mustache.

588
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:50,960
My dad's still alive.

589
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,960
I just don't know where he is.

590
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,160
Like a where's Waldo situation.

591
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,480
Have you checked into the bushes?

592
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:02,040
He could be wearing a ghillie suit and a snorkel.

593
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,480
My dad's a scuba snake.

594
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,040
Everyone's going to make fun of me at the playground.

595
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:08,800
He's the apprentice.

596
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,040
One of these days he's going to come back.

597
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:14,640
He's like, I need you to take over the family business and just hand you your own snorkel.

598
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,920
It gives me all of these like old snake skins that he's used.

599
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,480
Like I don't want any of this.

600
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:22,760
Let me inherit your debt.

601
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:23,760
I don't want this.

602
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:24,760
Joke's on you.

603
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:25,760
This is both.

604
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:30,960
I still have payments on all of these snake skins.

605
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:31,960
No.

606
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:32,960
Oh God.

607
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:39,120
That would be a fitting way for my life to go.

608
00:25:39,120 --> 00:25:42,560
What point was I making for my dad ruined my life again?

609
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,840
No, that was it.

610
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,640
There was those couples, that couple on the couch.

611
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,480
They're like, he was talking about his name.

612
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,280
He had to change his name to David Spritz because it sounded all weathery.

613
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,720
And like, it's like, I don't like him.

614
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:55,720
Like, I like him.

615
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:56,720
I like him.

616
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,240
He's like, he's got an asshole face.

617
00:25:58,240 --> 00:25:59,560
I don't like his face.

618
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:04,840
And I feel that that scene was like very directed about like the split consensus towards Nicholas

619
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:10,160
Cage anyway, tackling this stuff about who we are and who we appear to be and where we

620
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:11,160
are.

621
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:17,640
And as we all approach 40 covered in like frosty all over us, which like interesting

622
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:22,000
side fact, there's recently a Wendy's that does these kinds of frosties open up by me

623
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,000
in the UK.

624
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,000
We're finally getting one.

625
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,040
So I have the chance to be hit by a frosty now.

626
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:27,040
So that's nice.

627
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:31,440
I hope it's because they know that you're Darrell Edge of the podcast.

628
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:35,440
They're like, it's that guy for better or worse.

629
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:36,840
Love what you do.

630
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:37,840
Yeah.

631
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:38,840
Big fan.

632
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:44,840
I got to see my father today.

633
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:49,920
I've inherited so many skins.

634
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:51,920
I can't show up with frosty all over me.

635
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,560
I don't want to look like a fucking fool.

636
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:55,560
Snakes are cold blooded.

637
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:59,800
I can't handle a frosty.

638
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:04,720
I mean, speaking of weird like male figures in the film, though, that subplot with the

639
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:09,760
sun and like the creepy counselor, I still don't really get what that's all about.

640
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:15,560
I think they actually could have gone harder with the.

641
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,480
Well, he was just where's that mute button?

642
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,080
He was just the boring as pedophile I've ever seen.

643
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,720
Those were some real dry line ratings.

644
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:24,720
That's my problem.

645
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,360
I was like, OK, he had the goatee.

646
00:27:26,360 --> 00:27:27,360
I'll give him that.

647
00:27:27,360 --> 00:27:30,040
But classic look.

648
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,120
Now let's talk about camel toe.

649
00:27:32,120 --> 00:27:35,840
Oh, I've got some opinions on camel toe.

650
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:36,840
I don't.

651
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,960
I'm totally fine with the color camel toe.

652
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,560
David Shelley is one of my favorite characters, though.

653
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,320
She's fucking fantastic.

654
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:50,200
I love the placidity of her ordering cigarettes and then like strikes.

655
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,560
It's like, yeah, God, you're such an old soul.

656
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:58,520
Is it that easy for children to get like cigarettes in America as well?

657
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,800
As long as you're confident.

658
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:06,640
According to American film, and I can only base this on this movie and clerks.

659
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:11,240
Yes, you're not going to make any money by withholding cigarettes from kids.

660
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:12,240
It's fair.

661
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:17,840
If you sell them cigarettes now, you've got a customer for at least 15 years.

662
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:18,840
Back to Shelley.

663
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,000
I like Shelley as well.

664
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:21,960
She's a she's an awesome character.

665
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,880
I love just how much she doesn't care

666
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:30,400
how she wanted to take up archery to kill animals.

667
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,280
It's like she is probably going to be a serial killer.

668
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,520
Yeah. Like unless you age really gets his shit together.

669
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,760
Shelley is going to hunt her brother.

670
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:45,760
I just feel like it's such a good representation of an actual like shitty kid.

671
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,440
They did a great job of that, like her trying to shoot the bow and just like, oh,

672
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,040
yeah, oh, I don't want to do this anymore.

673
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,760
And it's like, yep.

674
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,400
Yeah. Nice parallel between the movies to Nicholas Cage

675
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:03,160
thrusting his enthusiasm for a subject onto a child that's not into it.

676
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,760
Yeah, for sure. So thrusting his enthusiasm is not a great.

677
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,160
So I was going to say like

678
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,880
better than enthusiastically thrusting on a child.

679
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,800
There you go. We have to cut.

680
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,240
No, you cowards.

681
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,840
See, you cowards, you'll cut nothing.

682
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,920
You cowards. That's right.

683
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,960
This is our first no edit episode.

684
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,360
Me and Darryl versus the world.

685
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,600
Full uncut audio.

686
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,760
Snake skins everywhere.

687
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,560
OK, so this movie's good, right?

688
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,880
Yes, I love this film.

689
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,960
I saw it like right when it came out on DVD.

690
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,400
I rented it from a blockbuster.

691
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,120
I really enjoyed it.

692
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:46,680
That'll take you back. No shit.

693
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,680
I probably paid cash to was a different time.

694
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,160
So you've all seen this a couple of times now.

695
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:53,320
Yes. Big reveals.

696
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:54,760
I mean, we talked about some stuff that you noticed,

697
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,040
but was there anything that like major, major takeaway?

698
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,320
I'm watching it on fresh eyes.

699
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,920
I like it. I think it's really well paced movie.

700
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,920
It doesn't let me wander much.

701
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,040
The big takeaway that I had as kind of a new memory of it was that

702
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,160
the music, the Hans Zimmer score is really fucking good.

703
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:13,560
Like it fits that movie.

704
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,560
It's sort of like anxious and weird, but also chill.

705
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,960
It could use a few more miles.

706
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,160
Every time SpongeBob.

707
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,360
I mean, I would I always sort of wondered

708
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:32,200
how it was they approached the casting for the character of Shelley

709
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,240
because they'd have to be the sort of caveat is like, OK,

710
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,520
you're going to be sort of Nicholas Cage's like daughter.

711
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,160
At one point, we will be doing a close up on your camel toe.

712
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,440
We'll do some ice skating stuff as well.

713
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:43,760
It's like, what was that bit in the middle?

714
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,440
It's like it's 2005.

715
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,480
There's no real child laws.

716
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:48,560
We can just do what we want.

717
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,440
I'm off to make another Pirates of the Caribbean movie in like six months.

718
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,280
Prosthetics technology hadn't advanced enough to do a fake child

719
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:56,960
camel toe at that point.

720
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,640
You had to go authentic.

721
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,440
Damn, just like real gorilla recording, too,

722
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,480
because you got to catch it in the right light.

723
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,400
Unsuspecting a real candid cam.

724
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,720
That absolutely was a website in like 2001, for sure.

725
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,200
And you can't cut this out

726
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,960
because it's a huge character point for Shelley as well.

727
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,280
It's all factual stuff.

728
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,240
God damn it. My dialogue is invincible.

729
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,000
Stop trapping me with this shit.

730
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,920
That's the best thing I like about being a podcast guest is

731
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,680
trapping my hosts. Edit around that, you losers.

732
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,640
Good luck, assholes.

733
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,680
Assholes being me.

734
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,280
Take that future.

735
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:46,360
Yeah, right.

736
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:47,960
That guy's probably evil.

737
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,040
That's true. Is it goatee?

738
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,080
I'm going to do it. He's going to leave it in.

739
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,280
Good job, evil Peter. Yeah.

740
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,240
Evil clones, evil snakes.

741
00:31:58,520 --> 00:31:59,560
What are we talking about?

742
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,320
All right. So the weatherman on on the grid.

743
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,800
Good, bad, bad, good, bad, good, good, bad, bad, bad.

744
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,840
Where's this one? Where's this one pin?

745
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,120
I think it's a great performance.

746
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:10,400
I think it's a solid movie.

747
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,680
I good, good for me.

748
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,160
Yeah, this is a good good on my books.

749
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,960
Darryl, we kind of already know, but put it on tape.

750
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,440
I'm going to put it right there on tape.

751
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,240
I would put it somewhere between the fiber grade and SpongeBob.

752
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,960
Good, good. One of the faves.

753
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,800
Any any final thoughts?

754
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,680
Sucking fucking chucking rocks.

755
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,640
That was such a I loved his like the last conversation

756
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,760
we see him have with his father is just like,

757
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:42,280
I'm sure you have to chuck rocks in this in this shitty world.

758
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,840
Sometimes you have to chuck something.

759
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,760
It's like, oh, you're supposed to be a fucking great writer, sir.

760
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,600
And those are the last words you said to your son.

761
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,920
Yeah. He also had a living funeral, though.

762
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,960
So, you know, what a what a guy arrogance, maybe.

763
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,840
I don't know. But I still want my funeral to have like a three drink minimum.

764
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:00,800
I don't want any fake stories about me.

765
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,040
I don't want to talk about how such a great guy

766
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,280
mine is going to have commemorative coins minted.

767
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,720
I love that. Oh, that's tight. I like that. Yeah. Yeah.

768
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,240
Yeah. Hawaiian shirts for me.

769
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,080
And it ends with a mandatory suck and fuck.

770
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,240
What? I want Hawaiian like suits.

771
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,000
Hawaiian suits and a mandatory suck and fuck is a pretty good way to go.

772
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,560
Do Hawaiian suits have formal pants or formal?

773
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,600
I mean, like they're still Hawaiian printed, but like shorts or pants shorts.

774
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,040
How short short short short.

775
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,080
Yeah. And I think you don't wear a shirt underneath it.

776
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:35,920
It's just the jacket.

777
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:36,880
I like it.

778
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,840
Pedro Pascal and Nick Cage, both would look good in Hawaiian shirts.

779
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,600
Agreed. Not at the same time, though.

780
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,160
It's too much. No, too much.

781
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:44,680
Especially if you were on acid.

782
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,200
That'd be a lot. Yeah.

783
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,280
I think just Nicholas, maybe not acid and like

784
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,880
sitting across from Nicholas Cage would be too much.

785
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,240
But it's Nicholas. That man's done some masculine, we know.

786
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,800
Yeah. At one point, he wanted to tattoo

787
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,240
dreadlocks in his hair on his scalp.

788
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,680
I still don't understand that concept. I don't either.

789
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,280
They're not three dimensional.

790
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,760
So the unbearable weight of massive talent, his hair in this box may.

791
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,560
Well, his whole vibe is very.

792
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,360
Chris Evans.

793
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:20,120
Yeah, what we all the three of us watched this together and five minutes

794
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,800
and I'm like, he's really like channeling like

795
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,680
real life Chris Evans in terms of his look.

796
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,000
Brown jacket, hair, that beard.

797
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:33,040
I think it's a like my favorite contemporary Nicholas Cage look.

798
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,320
Like my favorite post 2018.

799
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:42,320
Like body type, his beard is like a good length and a nice

800
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,640
like it got lined up real nicely.

801
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,440
Obviously nicely dyed. Yeah. Yeah.

802
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,560
Yeah. It's how dark it all is, is what.

803
00:34:50,240 --> 00:34:52,840
Yeah, I wouldn't have minded a little salt in that pepper.

804
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,840
But I mean, I guess the whole point of his character is he's, you know,

805
00:34:55,840 --> 00:35:00,520
not that he ever went anywhere, but he's like trying to recapture, like that,

806
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,760
that get that next big movie that's going to really put him back on the map.

807
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,200
So a little.

808
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,760
They asked to project you a little bit youth and strength.

809
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,960
Yeah. And gray hairs don't equate strength.

810
00:35:14,240 --> 00:35:16,000
Fuck. Yeah.

811
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,840
I mean, I know that because I exclusively beat up people with gray hair.

812
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,600
Damn it. Yeah. You're next.

813
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:22,960
All right. That's fair.

814
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,280
And you're a big strong boy.

815
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,520
I'm a big strong boy.

816
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,280
I'll wrap you up in my snake arms.

817
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,240
Snakes don't have arms.

818
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,160
I don't know if you've ever seen a snake.

819
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,560
Yeah. I don't know what snakes you're looking at.

820
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,960
It's like a medieval or Renaissance paintings or pre Renaissance paintings

821
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,760
where every snail is just like a dragon size.

822
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,240
It's like, God, have you seen snails terrifying?

823
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,960
Did you want Europeans or don't did you?

824
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,760
Did Europe just used to be like covered in iguanas?

825
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,960
Is that where we get dragons? Probably.

826
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,320
I mean, you're looking at me.

827
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,120
Unfortunately, I wasn't there in the 12th century.

828
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,520
Coward. I'm going to assume.

829
00:36:02,720 --> 00:36:05,760
Yes. I think like, I saw it.

830
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,560
Me Lord, a snake with legs.

831
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,640
We now know that's a lizard.

832
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,720
What was being described back then?

833
00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:15,040
You know what? Dictionaries were much smaller.

834
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,640
They didn't have words for everything.

835
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:21,440
So I remember a while back, someone was celebrating

836
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:25,040
like the anniversary of the first, like alphabetical dictionary.

837
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:29,440
I'm just like, how infuriating would it be before that time?

838
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,880
What was the cataloging? I don't know.

839
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:32,960
Well, you just get a new word.

840
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,800
You add it to the end because otherwise you had to handwrite the whole thing.

841
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,240
So you didn't want to have to like start all over.

842
00:36:39,240 --> 00:36:42,200
It's like, oh, fuck, I forgot about Ruda Vega.

843
00:36:42,240 --> 00:36:44,120
I got to start from the beginning.

844
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:45,040
That's mad.

845
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,320
But I guess you could just start

846
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,520
the page Ruda Vega would appear on our Dvark.

847
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:51,760
That's two A's.

848
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:56,240
I got to start all over again, retranscribe everything.

849
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,200
Damn, this illuminated manuscript.

850
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,080
Yeah. What did we do before words were written down?

851
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:06,200
Did we just like go off vibes like we categorize this one was like, oh,

852
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,480
then that one is, oh, it was just a category.

853
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,880
We went purely on vibes and feelings, which mostly ended up

854
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,280
in like burning women at the stake.

855
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,640
It was a different time. We've moved on, guys. Come on.

856
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,200
It was a simpler time. Yeah.

857
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,640
You're only allowed to burn them if they try and burn you first.

858
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,360
Yeah, seems fair. Yeah.

859
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,480
I think that's the rules.

860
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:25,960
It's the golden rules.

861
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,160
So unbearable weight of massive talent.

862
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:32,960
We saw this at like our quarter mark in this whole process.

863
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:37,880
So there were some things that I think we didn't like appreciate as much

864
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:42,520
the first time, but for the most part, it's like pretty easy watch. Yeah.

865
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:46,400
Digging more into like his career, especially during like

866
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,480
the straight to DVD years, there is a very

867
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,920
palpable sadness to the beginning of this film.

868
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:55,800
It seems a little too real at times.

869
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,760
Yeah. As somebody who hasn't quite peaked yet.

870
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:04,880
I don't know. I haven't felt these feelings of downtroddenness,

871
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,800
so I couldn't identify. But when is your peak?

872
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,720
Like 49 usually around like 330 in the afternoon.

873
00:38:12,720 --> 00:38:15,440
It's all downhill from. Oh, you're just talking about today.

874
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,400
You haven't peaked. I got it. Yeah.

875
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,640
Drinking the sadness away.

876
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,640
That's the secret of podcasting.

877
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,400
We've all already peaked.

878
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,720
We've got a fake beard drawn on.

879
00:38:26,720 --> 00:38:29,920
We're just waiting for someone to send us to a house in Spain.

880
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:34,080
There was a period of time on my Zoom where I had accidentally turned on a filter

881
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,760
that added a beard to my face, but I already have a beard.

882
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,600
So it was just putting a beard on a beard.

883
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:40,800
It's like a hat on a hat.

884
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:45,280
It was really confusing because I couldn't quite like it looked like a glitch or something.

885
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:49,600
And eventually I finally was like, oh, there's a setting.

886
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,480
You like that guy who goes to court for his kitten.

887
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,120
Yeah. I'm prepared to proceed anyways.

888
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:57,680
I can assure you I'm not a cat.

889
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,840
I challenge you to prove that you're not a cat, sir.

890
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:02,560
Cats don't talk.

891
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:04,080
That we know of.

892
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,280
I'm just saying these cats are smart.

893
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,600
Then you put three of them in a trench coat.

894
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:13,840
Can you imagine the sheer number of things they could knock off of tables

895
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:17,680
if there were three of them in a trench coat getting them to newer heights?

896
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:18,640
Just all three at once.

897
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:19,520
Yeah.

898
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,160
Now I got a vault on it where each hand is a cat head.

899
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:24,960
That's five.

900
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:26,560
That's five cats in a trench coat.

901
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:28,000
Too many cats.

902
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:28,480
Yeah.

903
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,720
Right now it's just limp arms hanging down.

904
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:32,480
Just a broom.

905
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,400
Come out of the room and a plunger on either end.

906
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:34,880
There you go.

907
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,440
Real Vincent Adulman vibes.

908
00:39:38,240 --> 00:39:42,640
Yeah, I think I think five is too many cats for maybe the optimal amount of cats.

909
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:47,920
Can the cats coexist long enough because they could get territorial?

910
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,000
Does its belly start hissing?

911
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:55,520
Do you start like seeing like a kind of loony toons fighting inside the trench coat as well?

912
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:56,720
I don't know.

913
00:39:56,720 --> 00:39:59,920
Like these are why the apes get their own planet and not the cats.

914
00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:00,560
You know.

915
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:01,360
Good point.

916
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,960
How long of a trench coat do you need for the human centipede?

917
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:09,600
Like obviously pretty long, but how well would it hold up?

918
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,280
Sometimes I still quote human centipede.

919
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:14,240
Just that guy from good.

920
00:40:14,240 --> 00:40:14,740
Yes.

921
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:16,320
No.

922
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:21,760
When I remember how many legs that I've got, which is to prove it.

923
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:22,260
Thank you.

924
00:40:22,260 --> 00:40:23,120
Thank you for clarifying.

925
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:23,440
Yeah.

926
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,360
Human centipede is terrific.

927
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,120
Did you ever watch the second one?

928
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,440
I never watched like the sequels.

929
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:30,560
I was like, you know what?

930
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:31,200
This is fine.

931
00:40:32,240 --> 00:40:34,720
No, like one lives on fine.

932
00:40:34,720 --> 00:40:40,240
It lives rent free in my mind, but two is the landlord because

933
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:45,440
it goes like full fucking meta where it starts out with like a security guard

934
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:49,200
watching the original movie and he's like, I could do this.

935
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:54,560
And then he like just starts kidnapping people and he has zero medical credentials

936
00:40:54,560 --> 00:41:01,520
because he's a night security guard at like a turnstile and starts sewing people mouth to asshole.

937
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,680
And it does not go well.

938
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,000
And pretty soon you've got corpses in the middle.

939
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,400
It's bizarre and hot.

940
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,360
But I think a trench coat would have improved it

941
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,120
because then you wouldn't have to look at the dead ones.

942
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:16,400
Yeah. You just cover them up.

943
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:16,880
Yeah.

944
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,280
It really does reveal which ones are alive and dead, though.

945
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:20,560
I don't want to do this anymore.

946
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:21,060
Yeah.

947
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,280
We talked about the actual movie.

948
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:24,640
Yeah, it's great. I love it.

949
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,000
We were talking about a movie.

950
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,160
The unbearable length of massive centipedes.

951
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:33,600
I remember with the unbearable weight, like our first viewing of it,

952
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,600
not being completely sold on it, not really liking the third act

953
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,200
when it turns into an action movie.

954
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:46,160
And I still maintain like, be nice to see him like wrestle with the fact that he's a murderer now.

955
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,160
Yeah, like he definitely kills it.

956
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,080
Yeah, it's just fine with that.

957
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:51,920
Like just having to be a little weird about it.

958
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:52,640
That's all I'm asking.

959
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:56,960
But upon rewatch and I was like, oh, I'm going to kill him.

960
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:02,320
Upon rewatch and being so much more within the Stockholm syndrome

961
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,760
of only watching the cage movies, I loved it.

962
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,680
Yeah, you do have to let it be a movie at some point, too.

963
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,800
I didn't like in our original watching.

964
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:19,840
I don't think I acknowledged how much it mirrored the progression of adaptation.

965
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:21,120
Yeah.

966
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:25,680
And that one even gets a little bit into an action movie in the third act.

967
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,760
And I got shot, isn't that fucked up?

968
00:42:30,720 --> 00:42:31,680
And it's terrific.

969
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,960
I mean, just as a nice little homage back to that one.

970
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:40,800
And what better way to pay some respect to adaptation than not even acknowledge it?

971
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,240
I love the unbearable weight when it came out.

972
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,480
Just because I got told who to email, I got to go to like

973
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:53,120
a kind of advanced screening of it, but it was just really one of those things where they get.

974
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,320
I mean, he's like such a big quote, celebrities or social media

975
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,400
influencers just to create some buzz about it.

976
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,640
And then I'm just there like a stain hoodie going like, I belong here.

977
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:07,920
It was like a weird thing because this was like the first sort of big cage movie in a long time

978
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:09,920
to come back to like big screens and stuff.

979
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:16,000
So I was like sat there like a concerned dad watching their like kid go to like school for

980
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:20,320
the first time or something being like a school play like, oh, God, like I hope he remembers his

981
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,160
lines. I hope everyone likes him like I do.

982
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:26,400
And he got some like big laughs and was like, oh, my boy still got it.

983
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,640
He can do it. He's going to be okay.

984
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,520
And I felt this parental pride just like watching the movie.

985
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:34,480
And I loved it.

986
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,720
Like I've loved the unsubsequent views, even though I think that in many ways,

987
00:43:38,720 --> 00:43:42,880
this is like just such a vehicle for Pedro Pascal, if nothing else.

988
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:47,280
And I have no problem with that because I'm so on board with like Pedro Pascal now.

989
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:54,320
And I wish we could all find some passion in our lives like he has for Nick and this cage in real

990
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:55,520
life and on screen as well.

991
00:43:56,080 --> 00:44:01,200
It's weird watching because when we first watched this, I watched a lot of interviews with the cast

992
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:06,960
about this film and that cage gives a good interview and his press circuit for this movie is

993
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:11,120
clearly him being so uncomfortable with him being a meme.

994
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:16,560
I feel like a lot of movies just he's trying to face the fact that he's actually trying to

995
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:17,600
be a meme.

996
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:23,520
I think more so in dream scenario more recently, but he's like the only celebrity who's been,

997
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:30,240
I guess, memed to the extent that he has like who else is just having a losing their shit compilation

998
00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:31,200
go online.

999
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:33,840
I mean, Mel Gibson, but that's

1000
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:40,720
Yeah, from a performance perspective, no one really.

1001
00:44:40,720 --> 00:44:42,480
But you know, but not as much.

1002
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,520
Yeah, that's different, but that's really like a one note kind of vibe.

1003
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:46,800
Great ass.

1004
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:47,300
Yeah.

1005
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:48,640
Pacino?

1006
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:50,100
Yes.

1007
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:52,320
Now I know your type.

1008
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:52,820
All right.

1009
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:58,960
Well, I also like, I think this just confirms my theory that Nicholas Cage just loves dressing

1010
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:04,240
up like old man because he does it in pig army of one, not necessarily dressed like

1011
00:45:04,240 --> 00:45:06,800
one, but he's just a bald old man in dream scenario.

1012
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:13,520
I think part of him, he just loves to be just like a fucking like weasley old guy who

1013
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,840
doing that Peggy Sue voice.

1014
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,680
He loves to be like a crazy little guy.

1015
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:18,720
He just fucking loves it.

1016
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:23,200
It's probably in his contract that he has to have at least three days of shooting in

1017
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:24,240
comfortable attire.

1018
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:29,040
He's like, I'll do everything else in leather jackets and tight shirts, but you got to give

1019
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:33,040
me at least a couple scenes in a cardigan or a bathrobe.

1020
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:37,920
I mean, that's, you know, you, you set that standard on day one on, you know, shoot day

1021
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,200
one and they have to keep it.

1022
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:46,240
Jake Johnson has a great story about how on New Girl, he wore his like trailer slippers

1023
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:50,080
to the set and someone's like, are those your those slippers?

1024
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:51,120
Like they were in my trailer.

1025
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,240
I thought they were wardrobe and they're like, OK, I guess.

1026
00:45:54,240 --> 00:45:56,320
And he got to wear them for the rest of that show.

1027
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,680
Whereas Mac Greenfield is like, yeah, you have to wear a suit and those fucking shoes

1028
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:01,200
for like 12 hours and I get to wear these.

1029
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:08,240
I would hold out until like 60 percent of the film is in the can before I'm just like,

1030
00:46:08,240 --> 00:46:09,200
I'm wearing this now.

1031
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:11,040
What are you going to do?

1032
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:11,840
Replace me.

1033
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:12,560
Good luck.

1034
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:13,600
That's expensive.

1035
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,200
This is the Wesley Snipes scenario.

1036
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:19,680
Yeah, I'm not going to open my fucking video Photoshop eyes on me.

1037
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:19,920
Yeah.

1038
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,520
What you don't know about this blade three.

1039
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:31,040
Wesley Snipes is just such a fucking diva and doesn't want to do anything.

1040
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:32,160
Hates the director.

1041
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:33,920
Ryan Reynolds hates Ryan Reynolds.

1042
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,680
So that the opening scene where you first introduced Blayden, he's honest.

1043
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:38,640
He's in a morgue.

1044
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:43,600
All Wesley Snipes has to do for the scene is open his eyes like his eyes of like shoot open,

1045
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:44,880
but he refuses to do it.

1046
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:46,080
He just won't do it.

1047
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:50,160
So they like CG in him open in his eyes and it's terrible.

1048
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:51,200
Yeah, it looks really bad.

1049
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,480
No, early CG is the best CG.

1050
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:55,920
I stand by that.

1051
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:58,640
Ghost Rider one man.

1052
00:46:58,640 --> 00:46:59,680
Fuck, that's so bad.

1053
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,320
Ghost Rider one holds up shockingly well.

1054
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:03,040
Blade two.

1055
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:04,960
The Ghost Rider holds up.

1056
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:05,760
The water.

1057
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:07,360
Yeah, fucking dusty boy.

1058
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:07,840
Wet boy.

1059
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:08,320
Wet boy.

1060
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:09,680
The wet bandit.

1061
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,000
Yeah, go back and watch some black on.

1062
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:12,720
Oh, my God.

1063
00:47:12,720 --> 00:47:14,080
Spawn is incredible.

1064
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:15,520
CG and spawn is.

1065
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:19,520
What's the huge thing that cape Malbo Malbo?

1066
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:20,240
Yeah, Malbo.

1067
00:47:20,240 --> 00:47:25,040
Yeah, that scene is so egregiously bad where its mouth is just like hinged open.

1068
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:29,920
Yeah, and it's like, Spawn, you are my servant.

1069
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:33,920
I'm going to make you do how things your voice is better for this.

1070
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:38,960
Oh, man, I thought Spawn was going to be so fucking cool.

1071
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:39,600
Me too.

1072
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,720
Oh, well, maybe we could get a new spawn movie.

1073
00:47:42,720 --> 00:47:43,200
We won't.

1074
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:44,800
Nobody cares about Spawn anymore.

1075
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:45,280
I don't know.

1076
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:46,720
He's fucking still trying.

1077
00:47:46,720 --> 00:47:47,440
What's his name?

1078
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:47,920
McFarland.

1079
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:48,640
McFarland.

1080
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:53,040
Every every six months like McFarland, like we'll talk to anyone who will interview him

1081
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:54,400
and be like, it's happening.

1082
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,560
We're 25 years out of the 90s.

1083
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,240
Nobody needs Spawn anymore.

1084
00:47:58,240 --> 00:48:02,080
Yeah, look, if we're not getting National Treasure three, we're not getting a new spawn.

1085
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:03,440
That's the agreement.

1086
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,000
Nothing else happens until National Treasure three.

1087
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,280
No, that's the deal.

1088
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:10,480
That's the deal.

1089
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:10,720
Deal.

1090
00:48:10,720 --> 00:48:11,600
Malbolja.

1091
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:16,640
The day they get turtle top on board, the day they locked down Trent Reznor for Spawn,

1092
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,080
I will believe that it's happening to play Spawn.

1093
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:21,840
No, to do the soundtrack.

1094
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,800
Oh, yeah, because he does fucking kick ass soundtrack.

1095
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:25,600
Oh, yeah.

1096
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,760
But nobody else could do a spawn soundtrack.

1097
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,640
No, I want Danny Elfman to do a spawn soundtrack.

1098
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,200
Nobody else could do a successful spawn soundtrack.

1099
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:34,480
I didn't say successful.

1100
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,080
No, I said it, though.

1101
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:37,440
Any.

1102
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:38,800
Now we're moving the goalposts.

1103
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,200
Yeah, obviously, because I didn't like your answers.

1104
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,200
So I'm changing the game.

1105
00:48:44,240 --> 00:48:45,600
It's kind of this podcast works.

1106
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:46,160
Yeah.

1107
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:51,280
So on this podcast, we're taking 64 Nicolas Cage movies, the bracket style,

1108
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:55,680
and we're going to figure out what the cage is to film is as decided by Nick and myself.

1109
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:56,160
Perfect.

1110
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:57,760
I'm not even going to put that at the beginning.

1111
00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:58,560
I wouldn't.

1112
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:04,400
OK, so this movie, I don't think we ever touched on it, but why the fuck did it get made?

1113
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:12,160
I think the right is Tom Gormican really like Nicolas Cage.

1114
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:17,200
So I got to like speak to them and like my podcast somehow.

1115
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:23,520
And I was like, with a movie studio is like, how did how did they agree to this?

1116
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:25,680
And like, yeah, they were just on board.

1117
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:29,680
So I think the movie studios have always had faith in our boy.

1118
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:34,320
I think it's just an interesting premise as well, though, that it's a Nicolas Cage movie

1119
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:40,400
about Nicolas Cage becoming Nicolas Cage and also battling Nicolas Cage, co-starring Pedro Pascal.

1120
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:43,600
It brought me lots of joy.

1121
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:49,200
I wish I had a Nicolas Cage shrine in the secret room where I live, but I just like,

1122
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,480
I want those face off wax work figures in my house.

1123
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:57,040
It's grotesque. I'll give you twenty thousand for that.

1124
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:58,640
I think it's maybe my favorite scene.

1125
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:04,400
I love the acid scene, but I think the reveal of his fandom is probably my favorite.

1126
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,080
I think so.

1127
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:11,360
The whole premise of this film is just like, oh, Nick Cage is, you know,

1128
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:16,960
we all think of him as like this weird, like kind of has been like bygone actor who

1129
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:17,980
just whose career is just completely like, oh, I'm going to be a

1130
00:50:17,980 --> 00:50:28,520
man, but he's so much of his later work that came out before this film.

1131
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,560
And they even reference part of it in this film is so good.

1132
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:37,960
So like Mandy is referenced in this film, but like Pig came out before this.

1133
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:39,080
Joe came out before this.

1134
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,320
Like he has such solid work after this.

1135
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:47,640
It seems odd that two normal people who aren't obsessive like me,

1136
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,440
like they still think of Nick Cage is like a bad actor.

1137
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:53,960
I think it's group think a lot on. Yeah.

1138
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,280
You know, you hear it. It's like, oh, he's a shitty actor.

1139
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,200
He's over the top. He's wild, whatever.

1140
00:50:58,200 --> 00:50:59,960
And then everyone's just like, oh, yeah, that's true.

1141
00:50:59,960 --> 00:51:01,800
Look, look at his big weird eyes.

1142
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,680
Well, you don't do the homework and you only watch the like

1143
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:08,440
Internet compilations of him reciting the alphabet.

1144
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,680
And you're like, well, yeah, that's not going to be a good movie.

1145
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,200
It's like, well, no, it's a great movie.

1146
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,040
It's going to win. Yeah, I love that movie.

1147
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,680
But like, you know, I'll have those conversations.

1148
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:20,920
I've told the story where I was at a wedding

1149
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:22,680
and I told someone I was doing this podcast and like

1150
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,680
Nick Cage is a terrible actor. What's he been in?

1151
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,720
And the guy just starts like naming like movies and gets to like,

1152
00:51:27,720 --> 00:51:29,400
you know, his second hand naming films.

1153
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,000
He likes like, wait, is Nick Cage a good actor?

1154
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:35,240
I'm like, yes. See, you proved yourself.

1155
00:51:35,240 --> 00:51:39,960
Yeah. It's like, well, this is kind of rock face off leaving Las Vegas.

1156
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,920
The weatherman, Peggy Suga, wait a minute,

1157
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,960
that moon's draw. Oh, fuck.

1158
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,240
Guys, I got to leave this wedding right now.

1159
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:51,640
I got to watch Moonstruck.

1160
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:53,720
Guardian Tess.

1161
00:51:55,720 --> 00:51:57,240
Guardian Tess is a terrible film.

1162
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:02,120
I don't know if it's terrible, but it's not in a conversation for me

1163
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,200
when I start telling people about Nicholas King.

1164
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:05,640
No, it wouldn't be high on mine either.

1165
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:09,080
I barely remember Doug Chesnick until watching the unbearable weight of massive talent.

1166
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:12,440
OK, here's the thing we really need to talk about, though.

1167
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:17,400
Paddington two is pretty good. Yeah, I really enjoyed it.

1168
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,720
Yeah. OK, so have you watched Paddington two?

1169
00:52:19,720 --> 00:52:23,800
And for context, for anyone who's listening to this, who doesn't who hasn't seen unbearable weight.

1170
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:25,640
What's wrong with you? Go watch it. Turn off this podcast.

1171
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:29,880
Pedro Pascal lists Paddington two as his third favorite movie of all time.

1172
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:31,640
Have you watched it, Darrell?

1173
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:34,440
I have. I have seen it.

1174
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:39,560
And I think the references to Paddington two, whenever I've seen it in the in the cinema,

1175
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,280
I've always got like the biggest laughs because you just don't expect it.

1176
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,920
But then you're like, yeah, no, Paddington two is great.

1177
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:46,040
We all have Paddington two.

1178
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,000
And he brings you to tears.

1179
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,920
The bear gets arrested. Why would you arrest a bear?

1180
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,440
Why is the bear not using his bear powers to kill?

1181
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,520
That was my thing at the end when he's like when the train's going underwater.

1182
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,520
I'm like, use your bear strength, dude. You're a bear.

1183
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,000
Oh, he had that really good hard stare. Yeah.

1184
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:06,680
And that was intimidating. Yeah.

1185
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,080
Like the animators did a great job on that.

1186
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:12,680
Animators in that whole movie did a great job. That's a visually stunning film.

1187
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:19,160
I kind of liken Paddington two to being like the UK's national treasure.

1188
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:24,840
Like he goes on a little heist. He gets like he has adventures.

1189
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:30,120
It's good. Yeah, I felt I got the same amount of energy from Paddington two as I did from.

1190
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,680
We have Nicholas Cage. You have Paddington.

1191
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,720
Yeah. I mean, it's a fair trade, I think.

1192
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:43,240
It's like over here, like anytime someone of like high, high significance, like a royal dies,

1193
00:53:43,240 --> 00:53:46,920
someone will post a picture on the internet of like Paddington two, like holding their hand.

1194
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,160
And it makes it look like Paddington is the Grim Reaper.

1195
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:52,680
Just leading them away.

1196
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,920
And if you're not a fan of the royal family, as I'm not particularly,

1197
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:00,600
I like the idea that the last thing they see before it all goes dark is just this like

1198
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:05,160
bad, boring marmalade on you and just unveiling his hood.

1199
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:10,920
No, it's like a reservoir dog scene where Paddington's got you like tied to a chair and

1200
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:16,920
like stuck in the middle with you. And he's like, just pouring marmalade on you before.

1201
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,160
I don't know, bear eating you.

1202
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:23,560
I think what I want going forward, you know, how they're building like the universal monsters

1203
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:28,840
thing going forward. I want to see eventually like Paddington versus Winnie the Pooh,

1204
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:36,280
who is the ultimate jammying bear. Like Paddington's like, I have the power of a

1205
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:40,680
cuck and I won't fight anyone. And then Winnie the Pooh is like, I love eating boss.

1206
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:47,160
So I think there's two incredible bears that will be fighting going forward.

1207
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:49,880
You know, I don't know who a third good bear is.

1208
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:53,960
Then Sam Jackson turns up and he's building a team.

1209
00:54:55,720 --> 00:54:56,680
That's how it has to be.

1210
00:54:57,720 --> 00:55:03,480
Teddy Ruxpin is the bear that got left out. He goes completely rogue and like he's the villain.

1211
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,360
Someone gave him a bad tape to play.

1212
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,520
Yeah, a corrupted cassette.

1213
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:14,520
Can they fight, can they fight terrorism? It's like a second plane has hit the honey tower.

1214
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:20,120
I don't have to cut that out. I don't know. Is that too soon? Is that too soon?

1215
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:21,560
20 years. That's like honey.

1216
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:29,960
You can say whatever you want because it was all a conspiracy from the start.

1217
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:31,320
So it's all fake news.

1218
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:33,160
Don't talk to your apprentice about it.

1219
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:45,800
I'm just saying, man, check your Reddit sheep. Wake up sheeple.

1220
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,720
And I've come on this podcast to tell you all my findings. All right.

1221
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:53,640
Wake up.

1222
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:57,000
9-11 was an inside job. The bears did it.

1223
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:00,840
It was the donkey.

1224
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,240
It was a fucking Eeyore.

1225
00:56:03,240 --> 00:56:04,680
God, it would be Eeyore, wouldn't it?

1226
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:10,280
OK, I mean, yeah, what do you guys think? This movie is it's a weird movie.

1227
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:13,960
It's very meta. It's very self-referential. It's very cage referential.

1228
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,440
But like as a movie, it's pretty fun.

1229
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,400
I think it holds up a lot more than I thought it would.

1230
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:22,440
And I wound up enjoying it a lot more than I thought I would on a rewatch.

1231
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,520
It certainly appeals heavily to us.

1232
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:33,320
I want to know how somebody not balls deep in Nick Cage's career would take the movie.

1233
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:37,640
Like, I don't know what my grandma would think about this movie.

1234
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:40,280
She'd probably think it was nice.

1235
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:41,720
She's like, oh, that was nice.

1236
00:56:41,720 --> 00:56:45,160
Like, I'm sure if you just know the meme that is Nick Cage, this movie's for you.

1237
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:48,760
But if also you're weirdos like us, this movie's also for you.

1238
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:49,000
Yeah.

1239
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:51,720
Oh, OK, here's my string board theory.

1240
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:53,880
My crazy fucking like.

1241
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:54,600
Oh, yeah, good.

1242
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,880
This is this is this is the center of the cage reverse of my fucking string board.

1243
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:00,120
Nick Cage plays all these.

1244
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:05,160
The actor Nick Cage exists within this universe for all the Nick Cage movies are real.

1245
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:11,080
So the movie Face Off is based on a real story in that universe.

1246
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:13,560
Wouldn't all of them be?

1247
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,440
Yes. It's a very weird world.

1248
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:21,160
But the actor Nick Cage exists in this universe to play those character,

1249
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,720
to play those characters who are based on real life stories.

1250
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:25,640
So he only does true story with me.

1251
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:29,640
So Mandy's a true story.

1252
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:30,440
There you go.

1253
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:32,760
So the way the Wicker Man's a true story as well.

1254
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:33,320
There you go.

1255
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:33,560
Yeah.

1256
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:37,720
Every Nicholas Cage film is just Nicholas Cage reenacting a tragedy.

1257
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:38,520
Yes.

1258
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:44,600
Because he's just like a grief tourist and just loves, loves the drama.

1259
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:50,040
There's one hole, one glaring plot hole in your string theory.

1260
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:50,840
World Trade Center.

1261
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:51,880
Yeah.

1262
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:56,760
Yeah. He rebuilt the towers just to do that movie.

1263
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,000
No, it was fiction from the get go.

1264
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,600
He went, he went from ground zero to ground hero.

1265
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:06,840
You're starting to learn my terrible jokes where I'm going to take them.

1266
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:08,440
Also, oh God, that's scary.

1267
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,000
Also based on this theory, the rapture happened.

1268
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:11,720
True.

1269
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:12,120
Twice.

1270
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:14,600
One of them was kind of alien.

1271
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:17,560
So like Angelians.

1272
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:24,040
I think I'd like the Nicholas Cage, uh, bear multiverse crossover where they all

1273
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:29,720
converge at ground zero and then they look down and there's just like honey at their feet.

1274
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:31,640
Maybe honey does melt steel beams.

1275
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,880
And then like honey aliens, honey terrorists come down.

1276
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:39,320
It's like giant bees, giant bees cause nine.

1277
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,080
I like that bees are just honey terrorists.

1278
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:44,040
Well, we did steal it from them.

1279
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:44,600
It's true.

1280
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:45,720
We did start this war.

1281
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:46,520
That's a good movie.

1282
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:47,640
Movie had a point.

1283
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:49,000
Jerry Seinfeld had a point.

1284
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:50,360
That's all I'm saying.

1285
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:51,640
It was on his butt and that was me.

1286
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:53,800
Cause it's a stinger.

1287
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:54,840
That's a stinger joke.

1288
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:57,640
So all right.

1289
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:00,280
At this point, I don't know that there's too much more to say about this movie.

1290
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:01,880
We haven't said anything about this movie.

1291
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:03,720
There isn't that much to say about this movie.

1292
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:07,640
It's a love story romp for Nicholas Cage people.

1293
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:07,960
Yeah.

1294
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:12,600
You know, it's like, yeah, you don't go to see this movie if you don't know or like

1295
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,400
Nicholas Cage, there's zero, zero overlap.

1296
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:18,840
But yeah, I mean, do you guys have other thoughts, other final things

1297
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:19,720
you want to say about this?

1298
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:22,920
I mean, other than like people should watch it.

1299
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:27,640
If they listen to this podcast, you probably like Nick Cage enough to watch this movie.

1300
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:33,480
Yeah, it'd be weird if you were listening to this podcast without some liking for Nicholas Cage.

1301
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,080
I think that's a fair amount of our friends.

1302
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,320
Nobody likes us that much, though.

1303
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:44,600
No, I don't have anything else really on the subject of Unbearable Weight.

1304
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:46,840
It's a terrifically fun movie.

1305
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,080
Yeah, I agree.

1306
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:53,800
It's one of those movies where I think if you have absolutely no interest in Nicholas Cage,

1307
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,680
it's probably not going to appeal to you.

1308
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:59,560
But I've had people sort of come to me like after the fact and say like,

1309
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:00,920
oh, I watched that Unbearable Weight movie.

1310
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:02,360
It's actually really fun.

1311
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:05,800
So I think it's like, you will enjoy it.

1312
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:09,560
I saw like one review on Letterboxd, which I think kind of sums it up,

1313
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:14,280
which I think like on one hand, if you are Nicholas Cage build, as we are,

1314
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:15,480
you'll get the most out of it.

1315
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:17,240
You'll pick up on a lot of the Nicholas Cage things.

1316
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:22,120
It's kind of like the best of bullet points of Nicholas Cage that you're probably aware of

1317
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:23,320
this movie hits.

1318
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:29,160
But if you're kind of lesser enthused, it's one of those movies where maybe you won't laugh

1319
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:29,880
at everything.

1320
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:34,760
And if you don't laugh at like Cage and Pascal doing acid together, something's wrong with you.

1321
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:38,520
But for the most part, it'll be one of those movies where if not laughing out loud,

1322
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:43,240
it'll be that kind of like through the nostril, like kind of like laughs like that,

1323
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:44,680
which I think you'll enjoy it.

1324
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,280
On paper, like a very interesting idea.

1325
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:50,920
For me, it kind of holds up.

1326
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:54,040
I can see how the execution maybe like could put some people off.

1327
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:59,240
Again, like we say, when it just becomes an action movie in like the last third,

1328
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:04,680
I hoped they were going to have some like more of like the Nicky character,

1329
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:08,760
like the internal Nicholas Cage dressed like he's Terry Wogan in the view from like the 90s.

1330
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:14,600
I hope they do a sequel so then they can talk about all the Cage films if they're real

1331
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:16,440
fucking fans and not poses.

1332
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:21,800
Yeah, I think Unbearable Weight will work its way into my like,

1333
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:24,600
I'm home sick from work kind of movies.

1334
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:27,640
Like they used to be just like the oceans movies.

1335
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:31,320
I fucking love staying home from work and just watching oceans 11.

1336
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:36,440
I don't even have to be sick to enjoy doing that so long as I'm not at work.

1337
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:41,960
But I think this could easily be one where it's like, oh, you know, I have an off day.

1338
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:43,000
I'm all by myself.

1339
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:46,600
I get to just be on the couch with my dog and watch this movie.

1340
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:47,100
Perfect.

1341
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:49,480
Of both these films.

1342
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:53,720
Yeah, The Weatherman has held up since I first watched it, you know, almost 20 years ago.

1343
01:01:53,720 --> 01:02:00,520
And I think the further away we get from the meme of Nick Cage or like if he does actually

1344
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:07,240
retire like he's planning to or even in, you know, 10, 20 years when he's not really in the zeitgeist,

1345
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:11,400
this movie isn't going to be easy to recommend to people who aren't here for it.

1346
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:19,720
You know, I was thinking slightly off of what you said here with Nicholas Cage's comments about

1347
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:21,960
future retirement and stuff.

1348
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:26,120
He's saying like, oh, he's got like four or five movies that he wants to make.

1349
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:31,800
So but I was thinking that doesn't mean he's limiting himself to four or five movies.

1350
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:37,160
It's like there's maybe four or five like solid roles he wants to hit, but he'll fill in the time

1351
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:42,120
between. So I think we've still got maybe maybe he'll play Spider-Man in live action.

1352
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:43,240
Yeah, maybe he will.

1353
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:46,600
We can say we were here for all of it.

1354
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:51,080
The cage to TV transition starts now, baby.

1355
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:54,760
And then we'd have to do weekly recaps.

1356
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:59,240
I don't know. I think that's it decided.

1357
01:02:59,960 --> 01:03:01,320
It sounded fairly definitive.

1358
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:02,600
What?

1359
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:04,120
I don't know. Are we going with Weatherman?

1360
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:07,400
Oh, yeah. I mean, my votes for Weatherman.

1361
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:11,080
It's you know, it's a it's a real delightful movie.

1362
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:18,360
It's I love the cleanness of his performance and like starting from the very beginning,

1363
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:25,240
he's knee deep in tension and like as he's waiting for this job offer and the

1364
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:27,640
shittiness of his separation from his wife.

1365
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:31,800
And I like the way he handles it, which is poorly.

1366
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:34,360
And I like watching him.

1367
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:38,200
Yeah, just he plays it really well.

1368
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:41,320
And he's a kind of a self-absorbed father.

1369
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:44,920
And he it's an enjoyable movie for me all the time.

1370
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:45,420
Yeah.

1371
01:03:45,420 --> 01:03:47,580
Plus camel toe.

1372
01:03:47,580 --> 01:03:51,980
I do have one fun, random Nicholas Cage story from this week, though,

1373
01:03:51,980 --> 01:03:54,300
not about Nicholas Cage, just an experience I had.

1374
01:03:54,300 --> 01:04:00,220
Nick and I had lunch yesterday and we were at a local restaurant bar

1375
01:04:00,780 --> 01:04:02,620
and Pig was playing behind Nick on the TV.

1376
01:04:03,820 --> 01:04:06,220
But the subtitles were like way off sync.

1377
01:04:06,860 --> 01:04:08,700
So they were like a whole scene out of sync.

1378
01:04:08,700 --> 01:04:10,700
They were like they were 10 minutes out of sync.

1379
01:04:11,260 --> 01:04:11,980
That's fucked up.

1380
01:04:11,980 --> 01:04:16,380
So like when he's like going and talking to what's the guy's name?

1381
01:04:17,020 --> 01:04:17,500
Amir?

1382
01:04:18,060 --> 01:04:21,900
No, the restaurateur, the restaurateur, when he goes and talks to him at first,

1383
01:04:21,900 --> 01:04:24,540
the subtitles are for Finway, Finway.

1384
01:04:24,540 --> 01:04:27,500
The subtitles are for all the stuff going on underground.

1385
01:04:27,500 --> 01:04:30,140
But where it's synced up perfectly for me is when he's like going and sitting

1386
01:04:30,140 --> 01:04:35,820
with handpan and the subtitles are him dressing down the gastro chef.

1387
01:04:36,380 --> 01:04:40,540
So it's just Nick Cage saying just destroying the soul of a small child.

1388
01:04:40,540 --> 01:04:41,020
Fantastic.

1389
01:04:41,020 --> 01:04:42,620
It was astounding.

1390
01:04:42,620 --> 01:04:43,900
Yeah, that's a good mashup.

1391
01:04:43,900 --> 01:04:45,340
It was great.

1392
01:04:45,340 --> 01:04:46,860
Yeah. More of that.

1393
01:04:46,860 --> 01:04:49,020
More child abuse going forward.

1394
01:04:49,820 --> 01:04:53,020
That is something that Nicholas Cage movies have been sorely lacking.

1395
01:04:53,900 --> 01:04:55,660
That's that's that's the line to go out on.

1396
01:04:55,660 --> 01:04:58,540
I know, right? Solid finish to that episode.

1397
01:04:59,100 --> 01:05:00,780
A real laugh riot.

1398
01:05:00,780 --> 01:05:03,820
More child abuse in Cage movies, please and thank you.

1399
01:05:06,620 --> 01:05:07,740
There it is.

1400
01:05:07,740 --> 01:05:08,940
There's the same trombone.

1401
01:05:08,940 --> 01:05:09,440
Yeah.

1402
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:10,400
Perfectly timed.

1403
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:11,920
Yay, we did it.

1404
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:12,880
We did it, everyone.

1405
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:14,800
What a joy.

1406
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:15,440
What a pleasure.

1407
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:17,440
Thank you for inviting me back on.

1408
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:19,440
Maybe we can do it again next year.

1409
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:20,640
One appearance a year.

1410
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:21,840
Lock it in.

1411
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:23,680
Oh, no, we're speeding up, though.

1412
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:29,120
It gets faster from here because we slow down every sequence.

1413
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:30,720
We'll see you in six months.

1414
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:38,480
Yeah. So next up, we're going to have our matchups where it will be two guests arguing hard

1415
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:39,680
for one movie each.

1416
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:42,480
Oh, interesting.

1417
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:45,440
One that you really go super hard for.

1418
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:50,720
And Sean and I are going to dress up like old timey judges with powdered wigs.

1419
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:52,240
I was going to dress up as Judge Dredd.

1420
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:52,880
I mean, you can do that too.

1421
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:54,480
You can just dress as Judge Dredd.

1422
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:55,360
As long as you're a judge.

1423
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:57,440
Just put a wig underneath it.

1424
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:02,320
I just if eight millimeter goes forward, Judge Dredd,

1425
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:06,240
if eight millimeter goes forward, I want to see who goes hard for that movie

1426
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:08,160
and then stop being friends with them.

1427
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:10,800
Yeah. I who loves snuff that much.

1428
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:16,720
Can have a normal judge, Judge Dredd, Judge Reinhold, all the big judges.

1429
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:17,440
Oh, yeah, that's good.

1430
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:18,320
I can get you.

1431
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:19,360
Can we get you a dry hole?

1432
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:21,440
Probably. He's got to be on cameo

1433
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:27,120
and one judge, Judy, to rule over all of us.

1434
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:29,280
Yes, the one judge to rule them all.

1435
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:31,120
And she picks Primal.

1436
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:31,620
Yeah.

1437
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:37,360
Darrell, do you want to do your spiel about what it is you do

1438
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:38,320
and where people can find you?

1439
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:42,320
I guess so.

1440
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:46,320
You can find me on my own sort of Nicholas Cage podcast.

1441
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:49,760
That is Cage Rage, a Nicholas Cage podcast in which

1442
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:54,400
I have currently covered all the movies of the man I called

1443
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:58,640
the Golden Hog of Hollywood, Nicholas Cage on my journey to true Cage Nirvana.

1444
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:01,760
That's on all the usual streaming services.

1445
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:06,880
And my second podcasting venture is called Getting Defoe You,

1446
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:11,600
a dedicated Defoe podcast in which myself and I believe

1447
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:15,840
another guest of this podcast, Petros Patsylovos, we have joined forces

1448
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:21,040
to cover all of the Dehives, all of the DeLows, all things Willem Defoe,

1449
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:27,360
all aboard our Defoe commotion train, run all the business at Defoe You pod.

1450
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:30,880
We're in the middle of recording our third season now.

1451
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:35,040
It is a lot of fun as a come and join aboard the Defoe commotion train.

1452
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:37,120
God, that's so polished.

1453
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:39,040
Yeah, we're on social media.

1454
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:40,880
You can find us.

1455
01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:47,520
If you try, Peter barely can pull together the names of our 12 Patreon supporters.

1456
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:49,360
I do have it in front of me, but.

1457
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:50,720
Coward.

1458
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:54,880
I know sometimes I do it off the dome, but yeah, thank you to our supporters,

1459
01:07:54,880 --> 01:08:01,040
Josh, Sean, Josie, Rico, Matt and Adam, and to our Cage dancers, Ira, John,

1460
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:03,040
Freeman, Lance and Nathan.

1461
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:05,600
And who? Yeah, got it.

1462
01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:06,480
Motherfuckers.

1463
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:08,880
We're a well-oiled machine.

1464
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:12,400
Yeah, we're something.

1465
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:13,760
Oh, man. Well, oiled.

1466
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:15,600
Did I ever tell you about that dream I had?

1467
01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:18,800
It was like maybe 15 years ago.

1468
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:26,160
I was a fireman and I was like running up this staircase in a building that was burning

1469
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:31,760
and I kick in the door and there's this mom and her daughter and they're like,

1470
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:34,560
obviously trapped by the flames on the other side of the room.

1471
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:40,560
And I just make eye contact with them and then I tear open the front of my fireman suit

1472
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:43,680
and I'm just like, where's the fire?

1473
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:46,480
Just start rubbing baby oil on my chest.

1474
01:08:46,480 --> 01:08:47,600
And that's when I woke up.

1475
01:08:51,440 --> 01:08:52,000
I'd watch that.

1476
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:52,400
I don't know.

1477
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:53,520
Very fantastic.

1478
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:56,880
Yeah, that's more of the things I dream about.

1479
01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:00,000
Being a sexy, sexy fireman.

1480
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:03,040
Bye bye.

1481
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:17,440
Yeah, you know, some of our friends have goatees,

1482
01:09:17,440 --> 01:09:19,600
but that's just because they can't grow the in-betweeny bits.

1483
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:20,320
Have you checked?

1484
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:23,600
That they can't grow the in-betweeny bits?

1485
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:25,600
No, that that's the reason why they have the goatee.

1486
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:26,560
I've never asked.

1487
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:27,760
There's three options.

1488
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:30,000
They can't grow the in-betweeny bits.

1489
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:31,760
They're a pedophile or.

1490
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:34,720
They're spate.

1491
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:36,240
They're their ship captain.

1492
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:37,040
Even from the past.

1493
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:38,880
Yeah, even past or future.

1494
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:39,440
That's true.

1495
01:09:39,440 --> 01:09:39,600
Yeah.

1496
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:40,160
So there's four.

1497
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:43,360
I mean, that just goes with evil clones.

1498
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:47,440
My past and future are definitely evil clones of me.

1499
01:09:48,480 --> 01:09:50,640
Only now are you getting the correct version.

1500
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:54,640
I feel like one of them has this one of them just has the money shops.

1501
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:56,480
I do good mud and chops.

1502
01:09:56,480 --> 01:10:01,040
Yeah. So do those evil clones have dads that taught them how to shave?

1503
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:05,280
Is that why they're so evil?

1504
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:07,600
That's the only reason to have a dad.

1505
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:11,440
And audio engineers.

1506
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:12,640
Oh, yeah.

1507
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:15,440
Goatees, but they have to have a ponytail.

1508
01:10:15,440 --> 01:10:15,760
Yeah.

1509
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:16,960
That's what keeps them on the.

1510
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:19,280
It can be a skull it too, but it's got to be a ponytail.

1511
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:21,680
Yeah. You can't have a goatee and like a nice haircut.

1512
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:25,200
It's goatee and something that hangs past the shoulders.

1513
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:25,520
Yeah.

1514
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:27,280
Yep. That sounds right.

1515
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:28,560
Nice.

1516
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:38,080
Darrell, what is the general like feeling of Hawaiian shirts in England?

1517
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:42,000
Like, can you handle seeing that much color at one time?

1518
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:49,600
I say this as someone who unironically wears them all year round because I love them.

1519
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:53,120
They get unfairly maligned as ugly shirts over here.

1520
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:55,920
It's like, oh, what's the occasion? Are you in like a stag do or something?

1521
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:58,400
It's like, no, I'm autistic. Let me have this.

1522
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:02,720
I'm fatherless and autistic. Let me have my fun.

1523
01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:09,040
On construction sites here, we have something called Aloha Fridays,

1524
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:12,720
where people wear Hawaiian shirts on their construction sites.

1525
01:11:13,440 --> 01:11:16,000
It really makes Fridays feel nice. I like it a lot.

1526
01:11:17,440 --> 01:11:19,920
That's the kind of construction worker I want in my neighborhood.

1527
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:21,280
Yeah, absolutely.

1528
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:25,840
I've got one with like nice two cans and like flowers and stuff all over it.

1529
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:26,560
It's good.

1530
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:29,760
I remember when we were moving once, Meredith had like

1531
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:36,000
tried to give away all my Hawaiian shirts, like tried to goodwill them like behind my back.

1532
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:37,040
And now you're divorced.

1533
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:41,200
And now we're divorced. But last time I saw them, like when I went to a wedding in Virginia,

1534
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:45,040
last time I saw them, they were just rocking Hawaiian shirt. I'm like, you bitch.

1535
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:45,760
Betrayer.

1536
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:51,040
Well, really, you can't have a relationship where both people are strong in the Hawaiian shirt.

1537
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:52,080
See, that's a good point.

1538
01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:55,920
Fair. Yeah, I never thought about that. I was being selfish.

1539
01:11:55,920 --> 01:12:16,960
Yeah.