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Oh, God. Oh, my God.

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She just likes being the face of the cast.

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Yeah, that's a I'm the.

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I mean, you literally are the only one on camera.

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That's true.

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If it makes you all feel better, we can turn our cameras off, too.

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Well, if it makes you feel better, I'm naked.

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So that's it. No, that's how we record.

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Usually we just do this for posterity sake and like propriety.

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Yeah, I don't know.

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Me and Donnie just like to watch.

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Just like Craig.

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Craig listens to Craig.

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That's right. He doesn't have eyes.

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Do you guys find that now that you've done this for any amount of time,

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the only gifts you are ever given by loved ones are Nicolas Cage themed?

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God, yes.

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I think I've only received like one or two Nicolas Cage gifts,

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but I'm not very loved.

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So I have two pillows, two picolas cage ornaments.

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Nipple cage.

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I have a nipple cage card.

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Oh, my God.

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I have the two pillow.

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No, three pillows, one hand towel,

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the pants, a Nicolas Cage sweater

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with his face on a bunch of cats and the the picolas

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cage ornament plus a picolas cage ornament.

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I like that.

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What does picolas cage look like?

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I'm guessing he has just some real juicy cake.

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Just dump truck. Yeah, he is.

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Big old fucking ass.

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This is just how he looked when he was in his 50s.

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You know, he was pretty fickle at that time.

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He was thick at that point.

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Well, thank you all for being on here.

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You know, you guys have one over on us and that you're all actually in the same room,

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something that we never do.

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But we're also all in Washington state.

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That's profound.

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So at this point, have you guys covered every two date

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Nick Cage movie that you just mentioned?

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We went chronological, unfortunately.

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Cowards.

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We started five years ago.

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So yeah, that must create like a real like unfortunate.

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I don't know, season three or four.

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Like when you really just get into like the tax time,

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you pay the ghost and shit like that.

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You can equate it really to Return of the King,

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where it's like at the very end when they're all sitting in the pub,

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it's like you've been and seen shit that these people will never experience

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in their lives and you are forever changed and bonded.

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That's the third one, right?

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Yes, that is the finale of the.

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Yeah, I always got like halfway through reading the Twin Towers and then like

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episode six, Return of the King. Yeah.

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Right. That's right.

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So I have a question because Nick and I talk about this constantly.

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Can you guys watch other media and have it not be weird and have it not be weird?

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I thought it was going to be about dicks.

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It's always not. I mean, yeah.

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Can you can you think about any other dick than Nick Cage?

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Whenever I watch a non Nick Cage movie now,

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I'm very confused as to why Nick Cage isn't in it. Yeah.

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I mean, we're kind of getting points with that with some movies

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where it's like, you know, Nicholas Cage would have been fun in this one.

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Not usually confused.

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Sometimes just grateful. Yeah.

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Yeah. Like watching that god awful.

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I think it was like season three of American Horror Story with Kathy Bates.

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I love Kathy Bates. She's one of my favorite actresses.

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But I thought like if they really had balls,

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they would have had Nicholas Cage play Madame Lallari.

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You already own her mansion. Why not?

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That would be nice.

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They wouldn't even have to like get him to leave home for a shooting episode.

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Yeah, exactly. He'd feel real comfortable.

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He'd just be shooting in his slippers.

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Like the retirement plan. Yeah.

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Look, you're going to need to hit at least five million dollars

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for him to put shoes on.

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That seems to be the going rate. Seven for pants.

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I like to imagine that you hit five million.

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It's like, OK, he's got shoes.

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We're not really, really ready to prepare or like to splurge on pants.

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It's in his writer.

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The extra two million is for me to take the shoes off to put the pants on.

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Oh, yeah. Right.

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That's how he gets you.

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He films in the wild, so don't tell him that he's filming.

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This is truffle pig.

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So I know this is something that like you're like, oh, yeah,

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yeah, so I know this is something that like you only have to.

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You have to see to appreciate.

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But we bought these mic stands fairly recently.

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And I'm really loving the fact that Sean's the only one that's so short

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that it's like pointed down at him.

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And it looks like he struggles to like lift his head to speak.

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Like you need to get the yellow pages for Sean to sit on.

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I am on a very tall stool. I'm not this big.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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I have you guys watch that the best times.

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The what? The TV pilot he did in 81 with the Crispin Glover

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and Frickin Jackie Mason.

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No, we have not watched this.

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This is real. It's all on YouTube.

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It's probably the only place you could see it.

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How long is it? It's an hour long.

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It's a TV pilot.

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We're going to we're going to check back with you guys in an hour.

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Wait here.

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We'll be back.

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No, that sounds fucking amazing.

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Yeah, I love it. Terrible.

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Oh, it is. It's terrible.

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You see what I'm saying? Look out.

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Here comes Nick. Exactly.

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Yeah, it's like an after school special from the 80s.

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Like written by kids for kids.

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Oh, my God. Kids are so dumb.

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Yeah, they're the worst.

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They don't know shit.

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And so is this show.

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OK, speaking of things that are absolutely the worst.

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Welcome back to Cage Match.

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Colon around about meeting Nicolas Cage.

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I'm Sean here with my cohost Nick.

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I'm Nick and our producer Peter. Hello.

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And we have three special guests this week.

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Why don't you guys introduce yourselves and tell us what you do

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and what you're from?

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Well, yeah, tell us who you are and why.

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Don't tell them your name, Linda.

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We're going to talk the shit out of everyone.

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My social security number is my greatest fear.

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And our podcast isn't it always

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that'll work for when our generation's blue hairs will just tell us

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we're on a podcast.

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And yeah, my name is Linda.

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I Linda Castro.

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I am from all we three are from cages.

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Kiss the Nicholas Cage podcast.

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Yeah, long running.

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You guys have been around since, what, 2017?

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I'm not. It only feels like, you know, 2019.

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Yeah, that makes more sense.

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2010, 25.

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We've. Yeah, whatever.

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It all blends.

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COVID happened in there.

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That counts for 10 plus.

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Time stopped in 2020.

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Haven't we been doing this forever?

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Like I'm stuffed for me after the rock.

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That one's Donnie.

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I'm Adrian. Yeah.

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Hello, I am Donnie from Arby's.

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Well, it's better than the boy who blew on Pornhub,

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which is still going strong, apparently.

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You have to elaborate on what the fuck that is.

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Explanations, please.

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Yeah, you're right in my queue zone.

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I got to hear about that.

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We did an episode on the boy in blue.

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Oh, the greasy bottom boys.

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Yes. And I may have had a few drinks.

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We bought every disc on Amazon, apparently.

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Yeah.

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One of the reasons it cost over $60 on Amazon.

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I may have had a few drinkies and a few drinky poos.

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And I suddenly came up with the boy who blew

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and that led to the creation of a fan made the boy who blew Pornhub.

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Incredible.

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Which for a while, we told people, please, full of a God,

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don't find us and don't join us.

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But people be people.

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How about you, Adrian?

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But people be people.

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How popular is that channel now?

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I don't want to know.

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It's always weird when you pull up Pornhub and you're in a room

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and like, you know, you're pulling up Pornhub.

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But then first thing, it's like, boom, naked lady or dude, whatever.

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And it's like, oh, I can't let people see it.

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Like, no, wait, that's what I'm here for.

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Yeah. The boy who blew.

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Yeah. I mean, it's weird that you're not in the library doing it, but sure.

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Oh, man. Public libraries.

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Benjamin Franklin Gates, what are you doing?

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I was going to say, did one of your dogs just give a guffaw?

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That's my that's Benjamin Franklin Gates. OK.

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Also, since we lost that audio, thank you, Alison, for naming my dog.

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OK. Oh, burglary.

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Do you think they were cool crime jackets?

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I assume they were butt naked.

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Nice. With a black domino mask.

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You can't steal nothing unless you got the black domino mask.

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Yeah, you're right. You understand crime.

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Crime and criminals and criminals.

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Yeah. OK. Learned everything I know from swipers.

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No swiping.

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This podcast, we take my dog is

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we take your dog out back.

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Yeah. No, he's only a puppy.

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He didn't shit on the ground.

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Yeah, we take 64 in a cage movies,

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a bracket style, and we're going to decide what the best cage movie is

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is decided by Nick and me and the goalposts moves every episode.

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Yeah, that's pretty accurate.

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We are in the round of 32, which gets us to our slicks teen.

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Thirsty to I don't know.

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It's too much work. That was thirsty.

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God, you can really hear the dog drinking on these microphones.

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Get it, Ben.

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So color out of space.

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You know, so we've now watched these movies twice for the show.

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So it's kind of been an interesting experience

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going through all these and seeing them again.

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I don't know if you guys have really done a ton of extensive

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rewatching on any of these movies.

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Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

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This one we watched twice because we did a commentary once

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and then we did the for real episode.

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And today I just re listened to our episode being like, OK, what was

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what do we say?

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We write down some jokes.

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Yeah, they're fresh now.

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We don't know them. Yeah, that's true.

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Well, I'm going to save you guys some time.

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I'm not going to read it to you like I did to these two. So.

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OK, so so you've watched these movies a fair,

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fair handful of times, a fistful of cages.

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What when rewatching this, like, say for this episode or

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or just re listening to your own podcast to catch your own jokes and laugh again.

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I do do that. Yeah, I know.

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Do you do you find new things about it?

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Like, well, I don't know about you guys, but I have a really shitty memory

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when it comes to movies.

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So it's oh, I just have a really shitty memory for reasons.

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Sandwich reasons. Yeah.

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Take a dump, Ben.

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Sorry, Benjamin Franklin Gates just took a big well, I mean,

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big for a puppy dump on his little puppy pad thing.

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This puppy. He did do it.

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Is he going to eat it? Eat it.

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I'll be right back. You got to talk for me.

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I think Ben gave his commentary.

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That's the national treasure right there.

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You were saying something smarter than I was talking about dog shit.

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I doubt it.

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We actually I got a reminder a couple of days ago that was like, hey,

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remember this day so many years ago?

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And it was from when I saw this movie in the theater.

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And I was like, oh, hey, this is a great timing.

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That's nice.

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I'm amazed you've seen it in the theater.

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I feel like nobody went and actually watched this in the theaters.

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Yeah, they gave it a crummy release.

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Like they do that a lot.

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But it but it actually played in the North American box office,

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which most the cage movies of the 2010s didn't do.

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They just ship them to Eastern Europe and the United Arab Emirates for some reason.

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Yeah. Yeah, I got it.

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It did get an international theatrical release.

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It's just it just it didn't get as big in North America releases should have.

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Yeah. I don't know if that was just because the distribution or Richard Stanley,

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because he's he's kind of been that way with some of his films.

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They haven't really gotten a lot of big, big releases.

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I mean, well, he also hasn't done anything since Island, the Doctor Moreau.

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Really? So he's like your ultimate cult director for that.

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You know, like all this stuff's super obscure.

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Yeah, I don't know if you all were aware of this, but there is

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and the only format you can get this in because, well, of course, cassette tape.

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There is a audiobook version of The Color Out of Space,

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which is read by Richard Stanley.

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No freaking way. Yeah.

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You're fucking dog, man.

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He's a puppy.

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He's a popper.

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Chouin is a declaration of independence.

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Oh, my God.

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I really hope so.

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If only I did actually try and find like a chewable declaration of independence for him.

286
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But well, you just need to get like one of the squeaky newspaper toys

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and just write declarations.

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He's a dog.

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Actually, you don't even need to write anything on it.

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He's the dog. You can't read. That's true.

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Is that against the law to lie to a dog?

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I think you can lie to dogs.

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I think dogs should be allowed to vote.

294
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You know, it's better than the current system we have.

295
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Yeah. But no, I've watched this a couple of times because I love

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love of horror movies, but even more so, I really appreciate

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a lot of Lovecraftian style films because it's its own kind of subgenre

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and they can either be done really well or just you're better off

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not having seen it before.

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It's really an 85 15 split.

301
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It really is. Yeah.

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I remember hearing about this movie coming out about a year before it came out.

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And I remember being real excited because this is my favorite Lovecraft story.

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A lot of Lovecraft is not fun to read, but this one actually read pretty well.

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Sometimes a little bit racist.

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It was actually Color Out of Space that changed my mind on whether or not

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Nick Cage was a good actor and gave me the initial idea to do this podcast.

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I honestly liked him and his character in this.

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And I liked his kind of slow transition, but he still had that caginess of

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I'm going to do a really fucking amazing accent with this character.

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I like how like his craziness just involves him

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just changing every affectation about himself.

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And if I remember correctly, I think Linda had mentioned it

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when we watched the movie, too.

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He based the character voice on his father.

316
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Yes, that's that was my theory, because he he will in

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Vampire's Kiss.

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He said that he based that voice off of his his father,

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who was a literary professor.

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And in this, he's talking about how he never wants to be his father.

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And when he's like pretending to be his father, he uses the same Peter Low voice.

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And I think with a lot of Cage films, you can have you.

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You get an appreciation for the efficient auto that this man puts

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behind the word fuck that nobody really can top.

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I mean, true, has she kind of comes close to it?

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It's fun.

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But Cage just makes it artistic.

328
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Dead falls. Wonderful.

329
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Yeah. Dead.

330
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Oh, fuck.

331
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I just I was really excited for this movie because I mean, it's it's

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HP Lovecraft done right for once.

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And you have Richard Stanley.

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I mean, my God, that if there were ever a director

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that is like on the same level as Cage in the craziness factor,

336
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I you know, it's like a match made in heaven.

337
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It's still a shame that because he had a trilogy of films planned out

338
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and then immediately got canceled after this movie.

339
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Yeah. Well, he had like some abuse allegations.

340
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Who does it now?

341
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He got canceled.

342
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Well, the movie got canceled because he got.

343
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Right. They went down together.

344
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Well, if you just change your name, nobody can catch up with you

345
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and just constantly.

346
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Yeah, I'm Stan Richards.

347
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Not to do that.

348
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Let's go ahead with that trilogy.

349
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Like he did on the island of Doc Moro when he pretended to be an extra on the film.

350
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That's true.

351
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We've lost a lot of good movies, unfortunately, to not even like

352
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stuff like that, but just people in general just kind of

353
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dropping in headlines because I know those also.

354
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I still really have hope one day we might actually get it,

355
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but I know it won't happen.

356
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Guillermo de Toro's in the mountains madness.

357
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He's he's completely said he's done chasing that dream.

358
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Yeah. And I know I remember he first said he did when of all things,

359
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he saw the movie Prometheus and he's like, yeah, I can't do my movie now.

360
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This movie kind of did that.

361
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I'm like, please don't say that.

362
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Prometheus doesn't deserve that.

363
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No, I think this is a really nice movie.

364
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It's not even just the director, the cast, the music, which is beautiful.

365
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This just the color gradation.

366
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Absolutely. And how things slowly degrade throughout.

367
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It was just such a beautiful, beautiful transition where it wasn't rushed.

368
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I'm always astounded every time I watch this movie about just

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how good it looks on the budget.

370
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Yeah. How beautiful the CG and all of it.

371
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Definitely.

372
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No, it's all tasteful because everybody who worked on it was doing films

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in the 80s, you know, so like everybody, everybody

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actually knew what a movie looked like.

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They had to solve their problems without CGI.

376
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It's just, yeah.

377
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Well, and I love that it's it's not maybe not horror and like the usual like,

378
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I don't know, like a slasher flick or necessarily a monster flick way,

379
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but it's just purely unsettling.

380
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Absolutely. Tension building and gross.

381
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Yeah. The the villain, the enemy is always kind of unknown in this one,

382
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which is a nice change unless you want to say that weird praying mantis is the baddie.

383
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You don't want a villain with a quotable name like Bye Bye Man

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turning up in every movie.

385
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Why wouldn't you want that every time?

386
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I mean, it is good. It's best for marketing.

387
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I do market just a color T-Mobile.

388
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Oh, my God.

389
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Well, it's interesting.

390
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I know in my art school days, I always thought, how would I adapt

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this story if I wanted to adapt into something like how do you

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how do you make a color scary and how do you make it?

393
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How do you depict an unknowable color in a color medium?

394
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Magenta. Magenta.

395
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Yeah. Yeah. The most effective to me was those ice cubes.

396
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Like any time you saw that where he was pouring his whiskey or whatever.

397
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Bourbon bourbon enthusiast.

398
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Buck Scotch says this guy.

399
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Local bourbon drunk. Yeah.

400
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Maybe saw something. We don't know.

401
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I never said that.

402
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Tommy Chong, Tommy Chong.

403
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He is in this movie.

404
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His fucking like little mon recorded monologue at the end is still so good.

405
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And so, yeah, the sped up slowed down audio.

406
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Yes. Yeah.

407
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It makes me want to get a reel to reel just so I can leave notes.

408
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It's just a color.

409
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But it burns.

410
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I mean, he could be reading Dr.

411
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Seuss and still like with those effects, it's the creepiest goddamn thing in the world.

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Does anyone have a child's book with us right now?

413
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Like, can we read something and then speed up and slow down?

414
00:20:04,860 --> 00:20:07,660
It would only be appropriate for you to have a child's book.

415
00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:09,300
That's true. Yeah.

416
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I do not have a children's book.

417
00:20:11,500 --> 00:20:13,600
I've already brought up Pornhub on my phone.

418
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I'm not allowed to touch children's books for 12 hours.

419
00:20:16,500 --> 00:20:18,980
They'll put you on a list of you. Yeah.

420
00:20:18,980 --> 00:20:22,080
Yeah. That next knock is Chris Hansen.

421
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I have Charlie the Choo Choo.

422
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If you're familiar with that, that is not essentially a child's book,

423
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but it kind of is.

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Does it read like an old Thomas the Tank Engine story

425
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where they just brick up a train in a abandoned tunnel to make him watch forever?

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Kind of. Yes. OK.

427
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And if you look at the cover, there's kids that look like they're having a good time,

428
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but they're actually screaming. Oh, perfect.

429
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This is something that was made off of.

430
00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,800
I think it was the Dark Tower series. Yeah. Yeah.

431
00:20:55,580 --> 00:20:57,940
Nick Cage is the gunslinger. Oh, I want this.

432
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Oh, man. That would have been so beautiful.

433
00:21:02,420 --> 00:21:04,520
What? You don't want to keep Matthew McConaughey.

434
00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,320
We don't. He could still be the man in black.

435
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,520
No, Nick Cage would be a great gunslinger, would be a great Roland.

436
00:21:12,020 --> 00:21:15,120
I mean, I love Idris Elba, but I mean,

437
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he's hard to beat. Nicholas Cage.

438
00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,560
Yeah. I mean, we saw it in Ghost Rider Spirit of Vengeance. Yeah.

439
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Sorry. Spirit of Vengeance.

440
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Vengeance. Vengeance.

441
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Miami is Eastern Europe, the country.

442
00:21:33,300 --> 00:21:34,840
That's pretty accurate.

443
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This is a really surprising movie.

444
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I was really glad that it wasn't one of those recipes for disaster.

445
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And it was something that kind of in a funny way,

446
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I felt people started to take Cage a little seriously with it.

447
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And that kind of because you had like this and what we had pig after.

448
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And there are people like, oh, my God, he's not actually full on crazy all the time.

449
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He actually can do stuff.

450
00:21:54,220 --> 00:21:55,920
No, this is like

451
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right kind of when we're getting into what we call like the cage of songs,

452
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where he has his third or fourth act of his career,

453
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probably fourth, because the third would be the tax of the tax years.

454
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Yeah. And now we're in his final stages.

455
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I think we're like in fifth now with like scenario and.

456
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I hate a five act.

457
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We're nearing his final form.

458
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Oh, we'll get a six act.

459
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,480
That's true. Prestige television. Right.

460
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,440
Yeah. Do you think they'll be there'll be another trash fire in between then?

461
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,180
And now do you think there'll be another kill chain?

462
00:22:26,180 --> 00:22:27,420
Yeah. Oh, of course.

463
00:22:27,420 --> 00:22:29,220
I mean, statistically speaking.

464
00:22:29,220 --> 00:22:32,760
Well, we do have that new horror movie he's supposed to be a part of to coming out.

465
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Oh, Long Legs.

466
00:22:34,460 --> 00:22:37,260
Also, the surfer, whatever that is, that's not going to be great.

467
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Oh, come on. That sounds awesome.

468
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:40,720
I don't know. Surfer looks good.

469
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,560
I don't know anything about it.

470
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:46,200
Oh, but yeah, I feel like this is it's a beautiful movie.

471
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It's really unsettling and strong acting, especially from the kids like as like Jack.

472
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I mean, he's so young.

473
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He he's like, I don't know.

474
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I feel like it's always a grab bag with kids like who knows,

475
00:23:00,740 --> 00:23:02,520
you know, how they're how well they're going to do.

476
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,720
Yeah. Most of the time, it's going to be awful, right?

477
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,980
Yeah, because they're kids and they suck.

478
00:23:06,980 --> 00:23:07,920
Yeah, they're bad.

479
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:09,660
I don't know how to act.

480
00:23:09,660 --> 00:23:11,960
Kids bad cops bad.

481
00:23:12,100 --> 00:23:14,500
Yeah, OK. Nicholas Cage. Good. Good. Yeah.

482
00:23:15,900 --> 00:23:18,100
All right. We got we got we got our bearings.

483
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That's our first T-shirt. Yeah.

484
00:23:20,140 --> 00:23:23,400
Kids bad cops bad. Nicholas Cage. Good. Yeah.

485
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:25,300
Yeah, we do need some merch.

486
00:23:25,300 --> 00:23:29,040
Yeah, I'm still saying Garland Green did nothing wrong.

487
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Perfect cage match.

488
00:23:30,740 --> 00:23:33,020
Garland Green 2024.

489
00:23:33,020 --> 00:23:36,080
Yeah, Garland Green did nothing wrong.

490
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Except for when he's a lieutenant, then he's bad.

491
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It's in the title, people come on.

492
00:23:41,060 --> 00:23:43,420
Battle Lieutenant Port of Call.

493
00:23:43,420 --> 00:23:47,020
New Orleans, New Orleans has kind of a similar arc to Vampire's Kiss

494
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in terms of how.

495
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Over the top, he gets by the end.

496
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Don't transition to Vampire's Kiss yet.

497
00:23:53,060 --> 00:23:56,080
And don't put those two movies in the same sentence.

498
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,080
One of them is pure gold, and the other one is.

499
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I do miss a guanavision.

500
00:24:02,380 --> 00:24:04,580
You get that movie's name out your mouth.

501
00:24:04,580 --> 00:24:08,160
Oh, I'm a big

502
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,600
Abo Ferrera fan, so it gave me the help.

503
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,500
Why was his soul a black guy?

504
00:24:13,500 --> 00:24:15,460
It's like the reverse Darth Vader.

505
00:24:15,460 --> 00:24:16,500
I guess.

506
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,740
No, I do love this movie, and I do love that.

507
00:24:20,740 --> 00:24:24,680
It's it is like a little ridiculous as well.

508
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,680
I mean, they have like I mean, he's milking alpacas.

509
00:24:27,940 --> 00:24:29,180
Got to get it hot from the teeth.

510
00:24:29,180 --> 00:24:31,380
Drinks it straight from from the boob.

511
00:24:31,380 --> 00:24:34,680
From the boob.

512
00:24:35,360 --> 00:24:38,420
One of the great things about this, though, is Cage has done so many movies

513
00:24:38,420 --> 00:24:40,760
with the family shit just sort of shoehorned in there

514
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,500
because he wants to have dad moments, dad, kid moments.

515
00:24:43,660 --> 00:24:46,500
And in this one, he's a dad who becomes unhinged and says hurtful

516
00:24:46,500 --> 00:24:48,360
shit to his kids. It's such a plus.

517
00:24:48,360 --> 00:24:50,140
It's so real.

518
00:24:50,140 --> 00:24:52,500
Just like mom and dad.

519
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,600
I bet Weston was watching this like too close, man.

520
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:01,180
Or Weston.

521
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,580
That's OK, Weston.

522
00:25:03,580 --> 00:25:05,740
You're the voodoo child.

523
00:25:06,540 --> 00:25:09,080
Why can't it be more like your brother, Jor-El? Yeah.

524
00:25:11,380 --> 00:25:14,820
Which one is the like bodyguard looking one and which one is not?

525
00:25:15,220 --> 00:25:17,960
Weston's the one that Sean made fun of for being fat.

526
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,660
Oh, OK. Weston is who I was thinking of to then.

527
00:25:21,260 --> 00:25:23,400
He's the fat metal kid. Yeah.

528
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:27,440
This is kind of like Exorcist three for me, where it's like when you've seen it

529
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,880
and you know that scene that comes up eventually with the nurse

530
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,500
in the hallway and the shears, you know, it's coming.

531
00:25:32,540 --> 00:25:34,100
It's still creepy.

532
00:25:34,100 --> 00:25:36,980
I still get the same vibes in this when you have the wife,

533
00:25:36,980 --> 00:25:39,680
when she's just losing it and at the cutting board.

534
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,880
Oh, yeah. I can't watch that scene.

535
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,360
Going and going.

536
00:25:44,360 --> 00:25:48,060
I forgot the series of events towards the end.

537
00:25:48,620 --> 00:25:53,020
When shit's going off, he kills the mom, son monster,

538
00:25:53,460 --> 00:25:56,540
goes down, has a drink with his family, watches some TV,

539
00:25:56,540 --> 00:26:00,020
gets shot in the back by the sheriff, by the sheriff,

540
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:05,080
but comes back to life to try and kill Howard to kill Ward Ward.

541
00:26:05,180 --> 00:26:08,060
Yeah. Is his name Howard Howard? Howard.

542
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,120
I never knew. Yeah. Yeah.

543
00:26:11,120 --> 00:26:12,220
Howard Phillips.

544
00:26:12,220 --> 00:26:15,660
I think his full name in the credits was Ward Phillips.

545
00:26:15,660 --> 00:26:17,540
You mean Howard Phillips? Yeah.

546
00:26:17,540 --> 00:26:20,460
Yeah, that made me confused.

547
00:26:20,460 --> 00:26:22,040
Well, his name is supposed to be Howard Phillips.

548
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:23,940
I get it. You read the book.

549
00:26:23,940 --> 00:26:25,740
I didn't read the book.

550
00:26:25,740 --> 00:26:27,940
No, he's not in the book. I mean, it's his character.

551
00:26:27,940 --> 00:26:30,120
It's given up sometime in the movie.

552
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,140
I don't remember when I do love how they made.

553
00:26:33,140 --> 00:26:37,280
They named the one black character after the very famous racist.

554
00:26:38,020 --> 00:26:40,780
Yeah. And then had him live.

555
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,400
Buck tradition. Yeah, I do like that.

556
00:26:43,620 --> 00:26:46,160
No. Fuck racists and cops.

557
00:26:47,060 --> 00:26:49,140
There's an overlap. That Venn diagram is about the same.

558
00:26:49,140 --> 00:26:51,740
Yeah. You're saying the same thing, Peter.

559
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:53,900
Well, you thought he was an English gentleman.

560
00:26:53,900 --> 00:26:57,140
He was Elliot Roger in 1930. You know, even for his time, though,

561
00:26:57,140 --> 00:26:59,500
other races were like, dude, you're making us look bad.

562
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:05,740
Reading somebody's letters posthumously seems like reading

563
00:27:05,740 --> 00:27:08,320
somebody's text messages like after they die.

564
00:27:08,620 --> 00:27:10,820
And that's something I don't need. Yeah.

565
00:27:10,820 --> 00:27:14,620
I don't need Sean to know what I say to you about him and vice versa.

566
00:27:14,620 --> 00:27:16,860
Don't ask. Yeah, I won't tell.

567
00:27:16,860 --> 00:27:19,460
Most of us are content to let those die with us.

568
00:27:19,460 --> 00:27:20,560
But then you get like H.L.

569
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,160
Menken's who say, no, no, 60 years after I die on Earth, these.

570
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,140
So my opinion, my public opinion will just die

571
00:27:27,140 --> 00:27:29,140
and everybody will realize I was a piece of crap.

572
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,300
I'm pretty sure that like my recorded cause of death

573
00:27:33,300 --> 00:27:35,500
will be swallowing my phone.

574
00:27:36,780 --> 00:27:39,220
Like I'm going to be like, oh, fuck, the end is near.

575
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,820
Swallow it. Leave no evidence. Hide the crime. Yeah.

576
00:27:43,020 --> 00:27:45,620
You know, that's just straight to the butt.

577
00:27:45,620 --> 00:27:47,380
Don't put nothing on that cloud.

578
00:27:47,380 --> 00:27:50,620
The best part about dying is if everyone finds out they can't do anything about it.

579
00:27:51,220 --> 00:27:53,300
No, I mean, in general, like, I don't know.

580
00:27:53,460 --> 00:27:54,820
This movie is it's fun.

581
00:27:54,820 --> 00:27:56,160
It's beautifully shot.

582
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,960
Like, was there anything that really was gained from watching it the second time?

583
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:04,300
I've watched the movie like five times now, and I always enjoy it.

584
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:08,740
I don't know that there's anything really new I came to with this watching.

585
00:28:09,140 --> 00:28:13,720
Yeah. I mean, I I think it's artistically really good and it's fun.

586
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,140
And I love the performances.

587
00:28:16,140 --> 00:28:18,520
It suffers a little bit in the dialogue.

588
00:28:19,220 --> 00:28:20,660
It just does. I don't know.

589
00:28:20,660 --> 00:28:21,920
And the Vinius sucks.

590
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,020
Well, yeah, she fuck. Oh, my God.

591
00:28:24,360 --> 00:28:27,720
I want to talk about her stupid ass wiccaness again.

592
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,700
Or Alexandrian. That would be wrong.

593
00:28:29,700 --> 00:28:31,800
Was it Alexandria? No, it was Wiccan.

594
00:28:32,340 --> 00:28:35,540
Well, when we made her, she goes zero to bitch in like 10 seconds.

595
00:28:35,540 --> 00:28:38,240
It's amazing. You immediately know she sucks.

596
00:28:38,300 --> 00:28:41,600
Well, this is why she summoned these demons and come on.

597
00:28:42,340 --> 00:28:44,240
Yeah, it's all her fault.

598
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:45,300
It is her fault.

599
00:28:45,300 --> 00:28:47,280
Yeah, she's the worst.

600
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:48,780
Oh, I got a big question.

601
00:28:48,780 --> 00:28:52,920
Linda, did you cover this movie in Bedknobs and Brimstone?

602
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:57,260
For Flicks? No, we did cover.

603
00:28:57,260 --> 00:29:03,760
Well, we came on to Cage's Kiss to do to cover season of The Witch. Oh, well.

604
00:29:06,300 --> 00:29:08,600
Why did you remind me of that fucking thing?

605
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,140
We're going to definitely watch that one.

606
00:29:10,140 --> 00:29:12,800
Yeah. Oh, God, I'll make your dick hurt.

607
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,740
You need a doctor at that movie.

608
00:29:14,740 --> 00:29:17,500
Oh, that's a stellar review.

609
00:29:17,500 --> 00:29:19,580
There were choices made in that movie.

610
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:26,680
You have some brilliant actors with like naturally European accents

611
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:33,420
and being forced to give these weird like Boston accents.

612
00:29:33,620 --> 00:29:35,420
It's the only accent that Cage can do.

613
00:29:35,420 --> 00:29:37,460
Yeah, it is a perfect Boston accent.

614
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,200
Yeah, I mean, Cage tries for the accent and like,

615
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,100
I think it lasts for maybe five minutes.

616
00:29:43,100 --> 00:29:45,000
Sounds right. Incredible.

617
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,260
So long. I do accents in my D&D games.

618
00:29:49,500 --> 00:29:51,400
Let's go Red Sox.

619
00:29:52,740 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaking of racists.

620
00:29:55,940 --> 00:29:59,080
So what's the deal with the race?

621
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,720
What's the deal with the races?

622
00:30:04,180 --> 00:30:08,460
With the Deathly Hallows symbol all over this movie, I mean, it's like

623
00:30:09,020 --> 00:30:11,600
in Levinia's hair, she's got like a hair clip.

624
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,580
That's like the Deathly Hallows.

625
00:30:13,580 --> 00:30:16,640
You got the triangle with the line going down the middle.

626
00:30:16,980 --> 00:30:22,120
And then there's the attic window where the mom works.

627
00:30:22,180 --> 00:30:24,160
It's same thing.

628
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,080
J.K. Rowling stole everything she's ever made.

629
00:30:27,820 --> 00:30:29,660
I don't think she stole it from this movie.

630
00:30:29,660 --> 00:30:35,400
No, but I mean, that symbol is not this movie transcends time.

631
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,800
I like it within the lore of Lovecraft, the Lovecraft mythos.

632
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,080
There is the Necronomicon.

633
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,300
It is Muscatonic Muscatonic University.

634
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:46,800
There's one copy of it.

635
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,180
It's there.

636
00:30:48,180 --> 00:30:50,880
And she's just got like off the bookshelf.

637
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,320
Yeah, like a paperback version of it.

638
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:54,520
Yeah, which they do make.

639
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,080
I wasn't made with people's skin like, come on.

640
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:58,980
I have sold one of those.

641
00:30:58,980 --> 00:31:01,520
Yeah, there's the there's the book you'll find in the stores.

642
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:02,860
That's calls itself the necromancy.

643
00:31:02,860 --> 00:31:05,200
I sold it at Barney when I worked at Barnes and Noble.

644
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,800
Yeah, that's where I go for all of my

645
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:08,800
food.

646
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,840
Say, honestly, that would be really,

647
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,840
that would be really fun to go to a library and say,

648
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,400
you want to check out the necronomic on.

649
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,180
They give you a book bound in human flesh written in blood.

650
00:31:19,780 --> 00:31:21,640
I want the audio tapes and ancient Sumerian.

651
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,020
I'm sorry, I wanted the paperback version.

652
00:31:25,020 --> 00:31:27,460
Oh, no.

653
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,580
That one's just made a foreskin.

654
00:31:29,580 --> 00:31:32,320
Where do you guys put this movie on the grid?

655
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,800
Good, bad, bad, good, good, bad, bad, good, bad, bad.

656
00:31:35,900 --> 00:31:37,700
Pretty high. Yeah.

657
00:31:37,700 --> 00:31:41,460
This was one of those like rare oasis is in the Caged Desert.

658
00:31:41,460 --> 00:31:45,200
You know, like I think we all breathe the sigh of relief when we got to it.

659
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,580
Yeah, this for me was kind of like because in our show, I always read

660
00:31:49,580 --> 00:31:53,680
the most wonderful reviews people have for these films.

661
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:58,120
And they always tend to say no matter how bad this movie sucked,

662
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,580
they always compare it to the rock.

663
00:32:00,580 --> 00:32:03,020
That is their standard of greatness.

664
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,720
We're and that's kind of where I'm at with this.

665
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,060
I know it's like this is this is the rock for me, for those people.

666
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,800
It's like this was my I love this with cage.

667
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,420
It was perfect with him.

668
00:32:13,420 --> 00:32:15,360
He was wonderful in it.

669
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,300
And I didn't feel like wanting to stab my eyes out after I saw it

670
00:32:18,740 --> 00:32:19,960
like Wicker Man.

671
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,600
Hmm. Sorry.

672
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,340
I mean, at least in Wicker Man, he did kick someone.

673
00:32:24,500 --> 00:32:27,740
And that was kind of lots of people.

674
00:32:27,740 --> 00:32:31,380
He kicked Lili Sobieski in the tummy.

675
00:32:32,780 --> 00:32:34,480
Tum Tum. Right in the tum tum.

676
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,380
Zeke on our show, we got it.

677
00:32:36,380 --> 00:32:40,780
We got an animated intro and it has it has my animation of cage

678
00:32:40,780 --> 00:32:42,820
punching sister beach from for the.

679
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:47,920
I love that still that and Jessica that and Jessica Beale blowing up

680
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,800
are my two just favorite things. Yes.

681
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:53,200
I have a good time.

682
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,500
Find find our next episode and just listen to Peter lose.

683
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,240
Oh, my God. Yeah, I could not handle that episode.

684
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:05,940
We really hit a certain pocket that tickled me tickling your.

685
00:33:05,940 --> 00:33:08,080
You guys are all right.

686
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:10,680
What do you guys think on this movie?

687
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,380
I still love it.

688
00:33:12,380 --> 00:33:15,620
I think I think there are parts of it that are a little overlogged.

689
00:33:15,620 --> 00:33:19,460
I think the middle kind of takes a while, but by and large,

690
00:33:19,460 --> 00:33:21,560
I still thoroughly enjoyed this film.

691
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,100
Yeah, I think it's still a lot of fun.

692
00:33:23,100 --> 00:33:25,120
It's kind of a niche watch.

693
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,480
I don't think I could just throw it on any time,

694
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,720
but I enjoy it when I watch it.

695
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,620
So when I'm ready for it, I'm going to have a good time.

696
00:33:34,620 --> 00:33:36,920
Yeah. Terrific performance by Nick.

697
00:33:38,300 --> 00:33:40,760
He just like get some really good deliveries.

698
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,260
There's some really, I don't know, just weird shit happening.

699
00:33:44,260 --> 00:33:48,200
Like talking about milking alpacas alpaca boobs,

700
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,280
dunking tomatoes into the trash can. Oh, man. Yeah.

701
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,840
What is that smell?

702
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,680
You know, the cancer smell, you know, you know, they're better than anybody.

703
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,020
Yeah. What a dick comment. Yeah.

704
00:34:02,020 --> 00:34:04,920
Yeah. Right. Like what an asshole.

705
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,860
You you know, my my cancerous wife, you know, that smell.

706
00:34:09,620 --> 00:34:11,960
Remember how bad your boobs smelled?

707
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,860
Oh, he's a leg man. Yeah.

708
00:34:15,860 --> 00:34:23,700
I do still love that line about like if she had no legs,

709
00:34:23,700 --> 00:34:27,160
you could just put her in his carry on luggage and take her wherever.

710
00:34:30,700 --> 00:34:31,900
Well, I like I don't know.

711
00:34:31,900 --> 00:34:34,080
I thought I thought that part was kind of sweet.

712
00:34:34,140 --> 00:34:37,240
Like he's he's like just letting her know.

713
00:34:37,240 --> 00:34:40,620
Like she of course, she had a mastectomy, must have.

714
00:34:40,620 --> 00:34:43,480
And now he's like, hey, I'm always going to love you.

715
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,360
Yeah, it's definitely one of those scenes and one of those dialogues

716
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,820
where you do actually get some of his

717
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:55,160
pre coloring personality and, you know, what makes that family kind of work?

718
00:34:55,160 --> 00:35:01,500
Like that's the wife's cancer and the grandpa's goggles are the two things.

719
00:35:01,500 --> 00:35:05,500
I'm like, there had to be more to this at one point, because with especially

720
00:35:05,500 --> 00:35:08,640
with the cancer, because we're getting to body horror later and they don't really

721
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:13,180
like, you know, she feels about her body because of the surgery,

722
00:35:13,180 --> 00:35:15,620
but they never really do anything with that.

723
00:35:16,220 --> 00:35:20,380
Oh, man. Do you think there were like even more boob analogies and like

724
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,100
metaphors like with the milking alpacas?

725
00:35:24,100 --> 00:35:26,860
Yeah. Big alpaca blob monster. Yeah.

726
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:32,760
That's why he got the alpacas because he needed some tits. Right.

727
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:36,340
I'll make sense now.

728
00:35:36,340 --> 00:35:38,640
Seriously, how great would that have been if he did that?

729
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,640
If he had the alpaca monster, he's like, OK, son, go in there and milk it.

730
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,540
What if the mom had gotten merged with the alpacas

731
00:35:45,540 --> 00:35:48,180
and then mom could have had thousands of nipples?

732
00:35:48,420 --> 00:35:50,280
She'd still be alive. Yeah.

733
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,320
He wants to. Yeah.

734
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,620
You're still my golden llama.

735
00:35:56,620 --> 00:36:00,020
The wife with a thousand young.

736
00:36:00,020 --> 00:36:01,420
Oh, God.

737
00:36:01,420 --> 00:36:04,400
No, but I do love that they show that they're very much in love.

738
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,400
They're still horny for each other.

739
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:10,960
And it seems like a somewhat happy family.

740
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:15,700
And I mean, they seem pretty cool with having Ezra

741
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,140
squatting on their their farm.

742
00:36:18,140 --> 00:36:21,980
Yeah, except Lavinia, who repeatedly sucks. True.

743
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:23,440
Yeah, she's the worst.

744
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:24,380
I don't know.

745
00:36:24,380 --> 00:36:26,080
Yeah. Jack's cool.

746
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,080
The Vinny and the one is just like a stoner.

747
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,320
Whatever. Yeah. Yeah.

748
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:31,980
Lavinia blows.

749
00:36:31,980 --> 00:36:35,560
I mean, if you have Tommy Chong living on your farm,

750
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:37,960
yeah, you're going to smoke pot with them. I know.

751
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,000
Like he's got the fucking dank as shit.

752
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,100
Come on. Yeah, he's got the good shit.

753
00:36:43,100 --> 00:36:45,680
Yeah. You want to come over her coffee?

754
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,540
You know, I don't even think they hired him for this movie.

755
00:36:47,540 --> 00:36:50,140
He just moved out there after he got out of jail. Yeah.

756
00:36:50,140 --> 00:36:51,980
He's just living on that land and they were filming.

757
00:36:51,980 --> 00:36:54,880
Yeah. Like Tommy, just say some weird shit when you're high.

758
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,180
We record you. Yeah.

759
00:36:57,180 --> 00:36:59,180
OK, man. What do you want to name that?

760
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,120
Thanks for letting me squat on your land, man.

761
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:08,500
Hey, whatever you do, don't Google my name, OK?

762
00:37:08,500 --> 00:37:11,600
So, yeah, we usually put this up on.

763
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,260
We call it a Venn diagram, but it's been pointed out to us

764
00:37:15,260 --> 00:37:17,400
that it is very much not a Venn diagram.

765
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,580
It is more of a grid. Yeah. Matrix.

766
00:37:19,580 --> 00:37:22,780
It is quadrants of good movie.

767
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,680
Good cage. Bad movie.

768
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:28,380
Bad cage. And they're within and what nots.

769
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:29,720
I don't have to explain this.

770
00:37:29,720 --> 00:37:31,780
That's why we already talked about it, too.

771
00:37:31,780 --> 00:37:34,180
Yeah, but we didn't. Do we finish it?

772
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,360
I mean, you guys didn't say your things. I go.

773
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:37,960
OK, good movie. There we go.

774
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,460
Good. Good. Nicholas Cage performance. Good movie. Yeah. Yeah.

775
00:37:41,620 --> 00:37:43,820
Well, another one knocked out of the park.

776
00:37:43,820 --> 00:37:46,000
Nailed it. We're pros.

777
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,000
Do we have anything else we want to say about this film before we move on?

778
00:37:50,460 --> 00:37:54,100
I think we could talk about it for an entire evening.

779
00:37:54,140 --> 00:37:56,000
But I think we've kind of gotten to it.

780
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,140
We've milked this llama.

781
00:37:58,140 --> 00:37:59,180
All packers are different.

782
00:37:59,180 --> 00:38:02,540
We miss milk this alpaca for all it's worth boobs.

783
00:38:02,980 --> 00:38:05,340
Yeah, it's it's a fun film.

784
00:38:05,340 --> 00:38:11,720
And it brought Richard Stanley back to like he he said that Nicholas Cage

785
00:38:12,020 --> 00:38:15,720
brought him back to Hollywood and renewed his faith in Hollywood.

786
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,100
He was hiding on a mountain in France.

787
00:38:18,100 --> 00:38:20,300
Did he do something after this?

788
00:38:20,300 --> 00:38:22,400
No, he got canceled after this. Oh, that's right. Right.

789
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,600
As he was supposed to do the he had he had planned to do the Dunwich

790
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:30,000
Horror and Call of Cthulhu. Yeah, he did.

791
00:38:30,100 --> 00:38:32,140
And we won't get those.

792
00:38:32,140 --> 00:38:35,940
Yeah. Well, maybe someone else will do them poorly.

793
00:38:36,780 --> 00:38:39,340
Yeah. Traditionally, that's how it goes.

794
00:38:39,340 --> 00:38:41,620
Just do what Lion Gates, Lionsgate did.

795
00:38:41,620 --> 00:38:46,160
Take a terrible Uli Lamel movie shot in a basement that's just about torture

796
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,920
and then just call it H.P. Lovecraft's The Tomb and never explain it.

797
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,020
Hmm. It's kind of the same thing with Dagon.

798
00:38:51,020 --> 00:38:53,520
It's just you can't really it's hard.

799
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,800
You just make your own interpretation, especially for a monster that in the end,

800
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:01,000
it's just kind of you're told is horrific, but nothing really other specific.

801
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,300
I mean, we're all in sort of the same area.

802
00:39:04,300 --> 00:39:06,400
Do you want to start a Kickstarter?

803
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,000
Let's do it. Let's just finish the trilogy.

804
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,320
Fuck it. I don't know shit about anything.

805
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,920
And we've managed to do this for 40 episodes.

806
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,320
So why not? Let's let's go, baby.

807
00:39:19,780 --> 00:39:22,560
Trust me. I've watched enough poorly made shark

808
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,420
films that were made for literally five hundred dollars.

809
00:39:25,420 --> 00:39:28,800
And if those can get distribution, follow your dreams.

810
00:39:29,260 --> 00:39:32,360
We'll just have to get I mean, all Lovecraft stories are public domain.

811
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,880
Hey, so is Mickey Mouse now.

812
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,300
I'm not going to die on that hill yet.

813
00:39:37,300 --> 00:39:39,340
They're trying some they're trying some chicanery.

814
00:39:39,740 --> 00:39:42,080
Yeah, I wouldn't fuck with Disney.

815
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:43,740
They'll kill you.

816
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:45,680
So vampires.

817
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,220
There's 30 years in the past.

818
00:39:48,420 --> 00:39:52,080
We usually find some odd connection between the two movies

819
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:57,200
and I like there's a through line to be drawn from Vampire's Kiss

820
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,460
to Color Out of Space.

821
00:39:59,460 --> 00:40:03,740
Like we wouldn't get this movie or this performance if we didn't get Peter

822
00:40:03,740 --> 00:40:07,740
Lowe and didn't get his initial that character.

823
00:40:08,300 --> 00:40:13,380
This is the first all out crazy cage performance that we got.

824
00:40:13,780 --> 00:40:18,140
Yeah, Peggy Sir got married was sort of the test run, but this is where it really took wing.

825
00:40:18,140 --> 00:40:21,420
I mean, he wanted to get a real bat for fuck's sake.

826
00:40:22,180 --> 00:40:23,780
Exactly. Yeah.

827
00:40:23,780 --> 00:40:25,880
I mean, he had his moments throughout.

828
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,020
So Peggy Sue is a good one.

829
00:40:28,020 --> 00:40:30,300
What was the why does he love so much?

830
00:40:30,660 --> 00:40:32,260
Racing with the racing with the moon.

831
00:40:32,260 --> 00:40:33,960
He got to do some of that kind of insanity.

832
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:35,600
Oh, yeah. No, you're right.

833
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,800
He was some of the insanity in that time to rip out his own teeth.

834
00:40:39,300 --> 00:40:41,240
Oh, God damn it.

835
00:40:41,240 --> 00:40:43,840
So, I mean, he played around with it, but this was the first time

836
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:47,540
that he had to really be like crazy, completely unhinged,

837
00:40:47,540 --> 00:40:49,640
totally fucking lunatic.

838
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:53,980
Well, it also fucking with the random people on the New York streets.

839
00:40:53,980 --> 00:40:55,580
It's a non union movie.

840
00:40:55,580 --> 00:40:59,060
So they're shooting without permits with people who don't know they're in a movie.

841
00:40:59,060 --> 00:41:01,920
And you can really tell when people look at some of those scenes

842
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,620
as he's like dragging the steak around with him.

843
00:41:04,620 --> 00:41:05,660
You know, those mimes.

844
00:41:05,660 --> 00:41:07,960
They were in a movie. God, I love those mimes.

845
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:09,700
I hate those mimes.

846
00:41:09,700 --> 00:41:11,300
I hate mimes.

847
00:41:11,300 --> 00:41:13,740
Those goddamn mimes.

848
00:41:13,740 --> 00:41:16,600
The torches of the town.

849
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,700
The domestic violence mimes.

850
00:41:22,540 --> 00:41:26,340
Well, you also get to see that like silent, like the actually

851
00:41:26,340 --> 00:41:31,040
German expressionistic acting where he like

852
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:35,380
he had the same thing going on for like he had the Nosferatu

853
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,480
hands in the attempted murder scene and Peggy Sue.

854
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:45,700
And now he's just like living his dream with the whole vampires.

855
00:41:45,700 --> 00:41:49,860
Because Robert Beerman, the director, really was into letting him go for it.

856
00:41:49,860 --> 00:41:53,940
God bless him. You know, like that was it was the best choice he could have made

857
00:41:54,740 --> 00:41:56,640
to do what Nicholas Cage just do it.

858
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,000
Yeah, I was thoroughly impressed when he's starting to lose his shit.

859
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,980
And he like chases Alva through

860
00:42:03,740 --> 00:42:06,140
or like down the stairs before down the stairs

861
00:42:06,140 --> 00:42:07,840
when he chases her into the bathroom the first time.

862
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:12,180
And he just does that standing just leap onto the desk in loafers.

863
00:42:12,180 --> 00:42:13,260
Yeah, you've been doing box jumps.

864
00:42:13,260 --> 00:42:15,180
I've been doing box jumps that in easy.

865
00:42:15,180 --> 00:42:16,760
There you are.

866
00:42:19,620 --> 00:42:21,300
Oh, I brought you soup.

867
00:42:21,300 --> 00:42:23,600
Yeah, just the back of the suit like dry.

868
00:42:24,940 --> 00:42:26,860
I can love it.

869
00:42:26,860 --> 00:42:29,400
I've got to say, I've had some really awful,

870
00:42:29,540 --> 00:42:32,740
god awful bosses, and this is just triggering as hell.

871
00:42:33,300 --> 00:42:36,300
I mean, TST

872
00:42:36,300 --> 00:42:38,340
like was his excuse.

873
00:42:38,340 --> 00:42:41,380
So, oh, I just tried miscalin for the first time.

874
00:42:41,380 --> 00:42:45,860
And she's like, I did too in high school.

875
00:42:45,860 --> 00:42:47,220
You know, I understand.

876
00:42:47,220 --> 00:42:49,120
And he's like, cool, cool.

877
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,300
Also, fuck you. Come into work late.

878
00:42:51,820 --> 00:42:55,100
Yeah. She overshares with her boss

879
00:42:55,460 --> 00:42:59,160
too much, like telling him that she did masculine in high school,

880
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:03,440
like when he's at her house being like, oh, well, yeah, OK.

881
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:04,700
I wasn't really sick.

882
00:43:04,700 --> 00:43:07,700
It's like, bitch, stick to your life. Yeah.

883
00:43:07,700 --> 00:43:12,180
It's like my boss is going to my boss is crazy and might rape and kill me.

884
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,240
We're not going to pay your rent anymore.

885
00:43:14,240 --> 00:43:16,920
Go to your job. You need that job.

886
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,620
And then the next day she comes home, she goes straight to a room,

887
00:43:19,820 --> 00:43:21,560
doesn't come out. Her mom's like, come out of your room.

888
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,860
Breakfast is ready. I don't know what's wrong with that girl.

889
00:43:24,220 --> 00:43:26,660
Hey, bitch, fucking eggs.

890
00:43:26,660 --> 00:43:30,660
And then immediately it's like, hey, brother, do a murder for me.

891
00:43:30,660 --> 00:43:32,900
And he's like, I will.

892
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,800
That's family. Yeah, that's how family works, right?

893
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,000
Yeah. Yeah.

894
00:43:39,260 --> 00:43:41,260
I'd like to think Donnie would avenge me.

895
00:43:41,260 --> 00:43:44,460
You mean if I got if it's on Tuesday, sure.

896
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,000
Yeah. Tuesdays are usually pretty open.

897
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,300
Yeah. Just got to know.

898
00:43:48,300 --> 00:43:49,740
You don't want to fuck with your weekend.

899
00:43:49,740 --> 00:43:52,480
Do your best to die on a Monday. Yeah. Come on, Linda.

900
00:43:52,740 --> 00:43:53,780
Yeah, I want that week.

901
00:43:53,780 --> 00:43:56,380
Oh, the dollar in this movie was fun.

902
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,180
Like it wasn't it was insane.

903
00:44:00,980 --> 00:44:01,680
I don't know.

904
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,820
There was so much that kind of bordered on the surreal

905
00:44:04,820 --> 00:44:07,420
that I really like going on with this drunk and horny.

906
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,720
I think I was talking about that earlier.

907
00:44:10,720 --> 00:44:12,920
Yeah, I just love like how that's an excuse.

908
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:17,040
It's like, well, you know, I was kind of drunk and it was a little bit horny.

909
00:44:17,300 --> 00:44:18,400
You know how you can be.

910
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,900
Yeah, it's like, oh, shit. Yeah, I have been drunk and horny.

911
00:44:21,140 --> 00:44:22,300
That doesn't excuse it.

912
00:44:22,300 --> 00:44:23,740
It's therapist.

913
00:44:23,740 --> 00:44:26,840
We get yeah, we get Elizabeth Ashley as this therapist.

914
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:30,440
And and later, Elizabeth Ashley as his hallucinated therapist,

915
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,040
which is even better.

916
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,120
How many times have you guys watched this film?

917
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:35,680
Oh, we watched it a lot.

918
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,960
Getting ready to record this movie where we did.

919
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:38,820
We went through it all.

920
00:44:38,820 --> 00:44:42,060
And the movie, the movie, in terms of how it all hangs together,

921
00:44:42,060 --> 00:44:45,120
is kind of a train wreck, but you still kind of delight in what

922
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:46,360
and what you wound up with.

923
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:51,200
You know, I remember every watch and we were doing the Renfield episode.

924
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,900
Weird because he's not a vampire in this movie.

925
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,300
Allegedly. Yeah. Yeah.

926
00:44:58,380 --> 00:44:59,640
I mean, he says it a lot.

927
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,880
I don't know. I'm a vampire. I'm a vampire.

928
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:05,380
I'm a vampire. I'm a vampire.

929
00:45:05,380 --> 00:45:07,880
There was a there was some confusion last time we recorded

930
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,820
this as to whether or not he was speaking of confusion

931
00:45:10,820 --> 00:45:13,120
because you are with cage now.

932
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,560
I have to ask this, though, it may not be something you may remember.

933
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,220
Linda, you know what I'm going to talk about, right?

934
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,200
No. Right.

935
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,460
The are you talking about pasties?

936
00:45:24,460 --> 00:45:30,100
No, about the confusion as to the actor who played the main in Rockula.

937
00:45:30,100 --> 00:45:31,860
Yeah. Rockula.

938
00:45:31,860 --> 00:45:35,800
Oh, God. Have you seen the movie Rockula? No.

939
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,440
The dude is a dead ringer for Nicolas Cage.

940
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:44,080
He is the longest time we thought Nicolas Cage was in the film Rockula.

941
00:45:44,740 --> 00:45:50,320
It is about a vampire who rocks, who runs a nightclub that rocks out.

942
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,580
He does 90s style rap like white guy.

943
00:45:53,580 --> 00:45:55,860
Well, he's a new metal. He does rock.

944
00:45:55,860 --> 00:45:59,220
Okay, yeah.

945
00:45:59,220 --> 00:46:01,640
This movie has amazing things.

946
00:46:01,660 --> 00:46:04,500
That's awesome. Has

947
00:46:04,540 --> 00:46:07,540
Thomas Dolby is pretty amazing.

948
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:12,180
Yeah, but but he really is a vampire, but he's also the DJ.

949
00:46:13,340 --> 00:46:14,820
That's all good vampires are.

950
00:46:14,820 --> 00:46:16,740
Yeah. It'll change your life.

951
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,060
Now, this is a this is a good descent into madness movie.

952
00:46:21,060 --> 00:46:21,760
I really like that.

953
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:27,260
And I wasn't expecting that because I remember I remember I was a kid in a video store.

954
00:46:27,700 --> 00:46:31,820
I think we had rented this long, long back and just a little bit stuck with me.

955
00:46:31,820 --> 00:46:35,200
And I remember being bored as hell with this because I'm like, I wanted a horror movie.

956
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,500
This is not a horror movie.

957
00:46:37,500 --> 00:46:41,800
We watching it as an adult and watching again and again and again.

958
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,380
It's just I it made me appreciate

959
00:46:45,740 --> 00:46:48,940
how well Cage can do descents like that,

960
00:46:48,940 --> 00:46:53,120
yeah, because it's just some some actors and actresses don't really grasp that.

961
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,420
But he just he goes for it.

962
00:46:55,420 --> 00:46:56,820
Yeah. I could really see that.

963
00:46:56,820 --> 00:47:00,960
The first time I watched this movie was on an airplane.

964
00:47:01,900 --> 00:47:03,660
That's right. Terrible way to watch.

965
00:47:03,660 --> 00:47:07,460
Yeah. Yeah. I had the aisle seat and I like turned it on and I was like,

966
00:47:07,460 --> 00:47:10,960
well, I got to watch this so we can record when I get back from this trip.

967
00:47:11,500 --> 00:47:15,580
And it starts going. I'm like, OK, maybe maybe this isn't right.

968
00:47:15,580 --> 00:47:18,280
And then it starts going like just boobs all over.

969
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:19,640
And I was like, fuck.

970
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:24,820
Like the flight attendant was coming up and I'm like trying to cover up my laptop

971
00:47:24,820 --> 00:47:30,380
so she can't see and make inferences that I'm obviously whacking off.

972
00:47:31,060 --> 00:47:33,520
But then the guy across the aisle leans over.

973
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,100
He's like, I love this movie.

974
00:47:36,100 --> 00:47:38,400
And he's like watching it on my laptop, too.

975
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,600
It's like, OK, that's somehow weird.

976
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,840
Hey, he was lucky when people are watching shit.

977
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:43,860
I could see it on their plane.

978
00:47:43,860 --> 00:47:45,140
It's goddamn kid's shit.

979
00:47:45,140 --> 00:47:47,440
But I've never heard of like, what is this?

980
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:51,340
I want to slap the tablet on the kid's hand and like, you damn jimsy kids,

981
00:47:51,340 --> 00:47:53,340
you don't know what you want.

982
00:47:53,340 --> 00:47:55,780
Watch vampires kiss.

983
00:47:55,780 --> 00:47:57,520
Why can't you watch something wholesome?

984
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:58,120
Yeah.

985
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,680
I'm as kiss with Jennifer Beals and pasties.

986
00:48:05,020 --> 00:48:06,820
Thinking of watching things on the plane,

987
00:48:06,820 --> 00:48:11,300
me and my sister were on our way to our grandfather's funeral on a plane,

988
00:48:11,300 --> 00:48:15,740
and I brought a portable DVD player and me and her were going to share earbuds

989
00:48:15,740 --> 00:48:18,640
and we were going to watch House of a Thousand Corpses.

990
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,240
Oh, yeah. And I hadn't plugged in the air phones yet.

991
00:48:22,240 --> 00:48:25,340
And I forgot there was animation on the menus like they do.

992
00:48:25,340 --> 00:48:26,940
Oh, yeah, there is.

993
00:48:26,940 --> 00:48:28,120
It started up.

994
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,320
Everyone on the plane heard, well, shit the bed.

995
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,020
It's like, oh, awesome.

996
00:48:36,020 --> 00:48:38,860
So, Nick, going back to this film, did you like pick up

997
00:48:38,860 --> 00:48:42,300
any new subtext or things we missed the first time around?

998
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,560
I don't know if I picked up anything new.

999
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:49,940
It was it's just incredible to me that every second

1000
00:48:50,500 --> 00:48:55,600
that Nicolas Cage is on screen, which is like the whole movie, is a banger.

1001
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,880
Every like every delivery rules.

1002
00:48:59,240 --> 00:49:01,380
The writing is just incredible.

1003
00:49:02,820 --> 00:49:06,920
This is the most memed up with him as the priest in the beginning of Face Off.

1004
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,080
Yep. Yeah. And Wicker Man.

1005
00:49:10,620 --> 00:49:12,420
This is where we got the name for our podcast.

1006
00:49:12,420 --> 00:49:15,020
I mean, yeah, it's a fucking it's such a fun movie.

1007
00:49:15,020 --> 00:49:19,600
And I really thoroughly enjoyed it more this time than the first time.

1008
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,840
Having kind of knowing where it was going, how it all connected to my first time

1009
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:24,200
watching it, I'm like, what the fuck is this?

1010
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,840
It's so just completely unhinged and doesn't make any sense.

1011
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:32,120
And I was watching it today and it started to, you know, get a little weird.

1012
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,420
Still early on. I just thought.

1013
00:49:34,420 --> 00:49:36,920
What are the symptoms of rabies?

1014
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,880
And I looked them up and they're all there.

1015
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,260
Like, oh, that's what this movie.

1016
00:49:42,260 --> 00:49:43,120
He just got back.

1017
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:48,920
He just got bat bit and has rabies and he got bat bit and a little bit horny.

1018
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,900
Yeah. Listen, we all get a little drunk and a little horny.

1019
00:49:51,900 --> 00:49:56,640
And I was fighting the bat and I got a little horny.

1020
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,100
But that's like put this whole thing in a weird like in a new perspective.

1021
00:50:00,100 --> 00:50:02,040
Like, oh, this movie isn't just crazy.

1022
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:03,540
Unhinged doesn't make any sense.

1023
00:50:03,540 --> 00:50:06,280
There's a full through line and it makes perfect sense.

1024
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,420
And it's actually kind of a sedate film when you look at it like that.

1025
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,180
Just a man in a health crisis. Yeah.

1026
00:50:12,180 --> 00:50:16,020
I feel like there's also something to be said in there about like his

1027
00:50:16,020 --> 00:50:18,280
his relationship with women. Yeah.

1028
00:50:18,780 --> 00:50:22,380
And like he just cannot stand the thought of being

1029
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,120
like rejected by a woman.

1030
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,460
So he goes through them like tissues. Ew.

1031
00:50:28,100 --> 00:50:31,600
Even has his literal dream woman.

1032
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:35,200
And he ends up calling her a cunt in like five minutes.

1033
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:38,740
That's the cherry on top.

1034
00:50:38,740 --> 00:50:39,400
I love that.

1035
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:43,140
Like even even in your even in your mind, even in your fever dream, you feel

1036
00:50:43,140 --> 00:50:45,240
she even likes the baldy.

1037
00:50:45,240 --> 00:50:47,680
He likes the baldy and Asian food.

1038
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:49,280
It's so refreshing.

1039
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,420
Japanese food is very refreshing.

1040
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,260
And eating cockroaches is very refreshing.

1041
00:50:55,260 --> 00:50:56,580
Even when they're stink bugs.

1042
00:50:56,580 --> 00:50:58,820
Oh, yeah. Water bugs.

1043
00:50:58,820 --> 00:51:00,760
I got called out for that one last time. Yeah.

1044
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,420
Yeah. What's the difference

1045
00:51:03,420 --> 00:51:04,860
between a stink bug and a water bug?

1046
00:51:04,860 --> 00:51:06,200
No water bug and a roach.

1047
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,260
I can't remember the type of bug it is.

1048
00:51:08,260 --> 00:51:10,200
The amount of water inside of its body.

1049
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:11,140
Science.

1050
00:51:11,140 --> 00:51:14,040
So you don't know is what you're saying.

1051
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,040
Correct. I don't need to know.

1052
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:17,340
You just know I'm wrong. Yeah.

1053
00:51:17,340 --> 00:51:19,540
Yeah, we're not fact checking you in any real way.

1054
00:51:20,240 --> 00:51:23,120
We know originally is supposed to be a raw egg.

1055
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:27,320
And he was like, I just don't think that would give the same punch.

1056
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,760
And so he's the one who made the decision to eat.

1057
00:51:30,220 --> 00:51:32,960
I want to eat a roach. Yeah.

1058
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:34,520
And there were two takes.

1059
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,600
God, and the way he like, choose it and.

1060
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:38,800
Oh, I mean, this is.

1061
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,800
My opinions are pretty clear.

1062
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,240
I think a lot in this.

1063
00:51:44,240 --> 00:51:45,940
This movie is fucking incredible.

1064
00:51:45,940 --> 00:51:51,040
And I struggle to think that there's a movie that I'm going to

1065
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:53,240
take further than this.

1066
00:51:53,240 --> 00:51:55,120
I mean, we'll have to see, obviously.

1067
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:56,920
That's the whole point of this show. But

1068
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:03,860
his commitment to every moment on screen, it's.

1069
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:05,160
He's fucking in it.

1070
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,260
This movie grew. It's electrifying.

1071
00:52:07,260 --> 00:52:12,360
It's he's got just magnetism that I can't stop watching.

1072
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:13,500
It's one.

1073
00:52:13,500 --> 00:52:17,800
I mean, it's so rare, but it's a it's a movie that I don't look at my phone

1074
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:19,360
while I'm watching it. Yeah.

1075
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,940
It's just something I can't miss. Yeah.

1076
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:26,280
I think about that fucking dumbass scene when he shoots himself in the mouth

1077
00:52:26,540 --> 00:52:27,720
and then just goes,

1078
00:52:27,720 --> 00:52:32,580
you know, boo hoo boo hoo boo hoo.

1079
00:52:32,580 --> 00:52:34,780
That would have actually killed somebody.

1080
00:52:34,780 --> 00:52:36,720
Oh, yeah. A blank blank would.

1081
00:52:36,720 --> 00:52:38,120
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1082
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:39,820
Yeah, the wadding. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1083
00:52:39,820 --> 00:52:41,120
No, yeah, the wad.

1084
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:42,400
The wads always get.

1085
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,460
Hmm. That's how it gets you in the mouth. Yeah.

1086
00:52:46,700 --> 00:52:50,240
Somebody shoots a wad in your mouth at that velocity.

1087
00:52:51,540 --> 00:52:53,700
It is. I.

1088
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,180
I love that they drugged a pigeon

1089
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:02,240
and let him catch a drugged pigeon without telling him that they drugged it.

1090
00:53:02,740 --> 00:53:04,120
They just like go get a pigeon.

1091
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,020
Yeah. How long do you think was out there before they're just like,

1092
00:53:06,020 --> 00:53:08,420
fucking drug a pigeon and just just kick it out there?

1093
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:10,760
Just put it on a balloon.

1094
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:12,960
You think you actually ate that pigeon? Yeah, 100 percent.

1095
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,020
Yeah. Method actor. Yeah.

1096
00:53:15,020 --> 00:53:16,820
If you were filming.

1097
00:53:16,820 --> 00:53:20,360
I do like when he goes to buy when he goes to buy the vampire teeth

1098
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,340
and he doesn't have any cash, but you can see his MX in the wallet.

1099
00:53:25,700 --> 00:53:26,600
That was 88.

1100
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,500
Maybe they didn't want to take card fare.

1101
00:53:28,500 --> 00:53:31,040
Those cheapies are so fucking weak, though.

1102
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:34,700
They're so good. They were perfect for the movie, though.

1103
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,140
And then he and then he bites Larry Cohen's daughter.

1104
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:40,880
Is that right? Oh, yeah.

1105
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:42,020
That's who that was. Yeah.

1106
00:53:42,020 --> 00:53:42,980
No, no.

1107
00:53:42,980 --> 00:53:47,420
Every every woman who shows up in this movie is actually like like significant.

1108
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:51,460
You know, like you get Maria Caccina Alonso, you get Cassie Lemons, the director,

1109
00:53:51,460 --> 00:53:55,000
and you get fucking Jennifer Beals, the flash dance, and it was with Ashley,

1110
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:56,420
who was in all those Burt Reynolds movies.

1111
00:53:56,420 --> 00:54:00,300
Well, and then Amy Stiller was the one chatting with David Hyde Pierce

1112
00:54:00,300 --> 00:54:02,700
in the bar in that one scene, too.

1113
00:54:02,700 --> 00:54:04,600
I miss David Hyde Pierce on this watch.

1114
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,100
He does have a great. He's there. Yeah. Good stash.

1115
00:54:07,340 --> 00:54:09,980
There's a cameo from one of Cage's brothers, too.

1116
00:54:09,980 --> 00:54:13,220
Yeah. And did you get that scene? Yeah. OK.

1117
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:18,580
You know, I heard that Cage actually wasn't happy with how it ended up.

1118
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,280
He was I guess he was really, quote unquote, hurt

1119
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:26,700
by seeing himself on the cover with a cape and the fangs

1120
00:54:26,700 --> 00:54:28,660
because he said, I never wore a cape.

1121
00:54:28,660 --> 00:54:33,700
And I guess he just got upset with how they kind of I mean.

1122
00:54:34,240 --> 00:54:38,380
But like he's still kind of that way with like things they use his face for

1123
00:54:38,380 --> 00:54:41,380
because with the he was doing an interview recently and they talked to him about

1124
00:54:41,380 --> 00:54:44,120
like finally getting to see himself as Superman in the flash.

1125
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:47,480
And all he could talk about was how they had me come in and ask me to do some stuff.

1126
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:48,720
But none of that stuff was on the screen.

1127
00:54:48,720 --> 00:54:51,280
So I don't know what they did. Probably something with AI.

1128
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,660
Well, I mean, they did do that. Yeah.

1129
00:54:53,660 --> 00:54:56,160
They didn't do anything with his real work. I know.

1130
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:59,560
But he has a like flat face that just goes.

1131
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,240
I'm actually surprised to hear that, like they brought him in at all.

1132
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:05,440
I wouldn't have.

1133
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,880
We watched the whole two and a half hours for that. Worth it.

1134
00:55:08,900 --> 00:55:10,980
Yeah. No, no.

1135
00:55:11,980 --> 00:55:15,980
I don't know. As far as not to get off topic, because we never do that.

1136
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:22,020
As far as DC movies go, that one was actually way better than I anticipated.

1137
00:55:22,720 --> 00:55:25,920
Like I put off watching the flash for a really long time.

1138
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:27,200
I haven't watched it really.

1139
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:28,460
I could not.

1140
00:55:28,460 --> 00:55:30,100
They put off releasing it.

1141
00:55:30,100 --> 00:55:35,060
So I think it's because Zack Snyder just raped us too hard and too

1142
00:55:35,060 --> 00:55:39,200
often with the DC movies that like, I don't know, it's just

1143
00:55:39,500 --> 00:55:41,500
they really low lowered the bar.

1144
00:55:42,300 --> 00:55:46,080
So you see something that's not terrible and it's not like, yeah.

1145
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,180
Oh, your mother's name is Martha.

1146
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:50,720
It's like, wow, this is good.

1147
00:55:50,720 --> 00:55:52,180
Insane. Aquaman.

1148
00:55:52,180 --> 00:55:54,780
And I finally watched him like this movie is nothing.

1149
00:55:54,780 --> 00:55:55,980
Yeah, Aquaman.

1150
00:55:55,980 --> 00:55:57,260
I haven't watched it.

1151
00:55:57,260 --> 00:55:58,180
Julie Andrews is in it.

1152
00:55:58,180 --> 00:56:00,380
That's like the one interesting thing about that movie.

1153
00:56:01,060 --> 00:56:02,720
She's the voice of the Hydra.

1154
00:56:02,720 --> 00:56:05,420
Hmm. And Amber Turd.

1155
00:56:05,420 --> 00:56:07,360
You love Amber Turd.

1156
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:08,400
I love that.

1157
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:09,940
Say what you want about Amber Heard.

1158
00:56:09,940 --> 00:56:11,360
I look great with her tits.

1159
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,360
That's true. Yeah.

1160
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,340
Go go look at Peter's artwork from Drive Angry.

1161
00:56:16,380 --> 00:56:19,280
Drive Angry. It's astounding.

1162
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:20,100
Your best work.

1163
00:56:20,100 --> 00:56:21,980
That is probably my best work.

1164
00:56:21,980 --> 00:56:23,740
Peace to resistance. Yeah.

1165
00:56:23,740 --> 00:56:26,920
Was that I mean, speaking of of Amber Heard wasn't

1166
00:56:26,940 --> 00:56:31,820
I could be totally wrong, but wasn't wasn't Jack from Colorado Space?

1167
00:56:31,820 --> 00:56:34,580
Like, didn't he play her son in something?

1168
00:56:34,580 --> 00:56:36,520
He shit the bed once, too.

1169
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:37,860
And I thought that.

1170
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,900
And I thought that's the best joke we're going to get tonight.

1171
00:56:44,660 --> 00:56:49,160
So in the matrix of good, bad, bad, good, bad, good, good, bad.

1172
00:56:49,540 --> 00:56:51,740
Where would you put Nick Cage and this film?

1173
00:56:51,740 --> 00:56:53,900
The upper 25 percent.

1174
00:56:54,100 --> 00:56:57,160
I consider it an interesting kind of a misfire.

1175
00:56:57,500 --> 00:57:01,140
I appreciate the fact that it was ambitious and that a lot of it does land.

1176
00:57:01,780 --> 00:57:05,680
And I like director Robert Bierman and what what he tries to do with his movies.

1177
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:10,380
You know, so, you know, on the whole, you know, like solidly C plus B minus.

1178
00:57:10,660 --> 00:57:14,920
I'd say something like good, bad, because it's it's like meme the movie.

1179
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:18,560
I feel like that's a little harsh.

1180
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:19,760
That's what I mean.

1181
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:21,100
Like, that's an opinion.

1182
00:57:21,100 --> 00:57:23,540
I feel like your opinion sucks.

1183
00:57:23,860 --> 00:57:25,700
No, it's going to be a primal thing all over again.

1184
00:57:25,700 --> 00:57:29,600
No, it's a well, you admitted to loving primal earlier today.

1185
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,840
So you did. Oh, Sean.

1186
00:57:33,540 --> 00:57:38,620
We were talking about getting Tartakov, Skis, Primal, but different.

1187
00:57:39,020 --> 00:57:41,980
But the words I love primal came out of his mouth.

1188
00:57:42,020 --> 00:57:43,680
Did you record it?

1189
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:47,160
Yes. From the wire that I always wear naturally.

1190
00:57:47,180 --> 00:57:50,220
Yeah. Commander Data and a CGI panther.

1191
00:57:50,220 --> 00:57:51,420
It's a movie, everybody.

1192
00:57:51,420 --> 00:57:53,860
It was so good.

1193
00:57:54,300 --> 00:57:57,860
No. Yes, I see your

1194
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:00,400
statement and I understand.

1195
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,980
But it's like the memes came after.

1196
00:58:03,340 --> 00:58:04,740
Oh, yeah. Yeah.

1197
00:58:04,740 --> 00:58:08,880
Unbearable weight, I feel like, is more of the oh, it's a he's a meme.

1198
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:09,780
Make a movie.

1199
00:58:09,780 --> 00:58:14,040
No, it was. Yeah, that's super, super disappointed in that movie.

1200
00:58:14,540 --> 00:58:16,880
Oh, my God. Vampires Kiss definitely like.

1201
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:22,760
It earned all of that attention with how ridiculous

1202
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:26,320
and absurd and over the top and just completely

1203
00:58:27,220 --> 00:58:33,160
unrestrained the performances and very, very rarely

1204
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:37,800
do I get to see something where you just give somebody control

1205
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:45,480
or like ownership of a character like that, and they just make bold choices,

1206
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:52,660
choices that could have landed him in like the unemployment line going forward.

1207
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:55,660
And he just committed to everyone.

1208
00:58:55,660 --> 00:58:58,460
Yeah. Like this performance was a risk and this movie was a risk.

1209
00:58:58,460 --> 00:59:05,400
And it's something that I think really had an effect on his career.

1210
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,580
Obviously, it got him moon struck.

1211
00:59:07,580 --> 00:59:11,480
It has an effect on film, I think.

1212
00:59:12,540 --> 00:59:14,420
I don't know if it's a good effect.

1213
00:59:14,420 --> 00:59:17,240
And I'm not going to pull out the yarn, but.

1214
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:23,020
I know he just wanted to do this one for just to like rebel against moon

1215
00:59:23,020 --> 00:59:25,320
struck and his performance.

1216
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:27,620
He didn't want to get typecast as a romantic lead.

1217
00:59:28,100 --> 00:59:31,860
Yeah. And he didn't, you know, which I applaud, you know, because like

1218
00:59:32,060 --> 00:59:34,400
that would that would have been safe if he just stuck with that.

1219
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:38,000
It's one thing I really appreciate about appreciate about Nicholas Cage

1220
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:42,840
in general is that he is he really loves acting

1221
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:48,440
and he's just playing and he's just you could tell he's having fun

1222
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:51,880
and he's passionate about what he's doing.

1223
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:54,680
And I mean, you know, love him or hate him.

1224
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:58,720
He's he's doing what he loves and he's got a lot of passion for it.

1225
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:00,400
Very true.

1226
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:03,360
I would say for me, I don't know when we started the good, bad, bad, good

1227
01:00:03,860 --> 01:00:05,160
in season one.

1228
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,300
It was like episode 10, 12.

1229
01:00:07,340 --> 01:00:10,660
So I don't know if we have a recording of where I thought this would be originally,

1230
01:00:10,660 --> 01:00:13,100
which I think would probably put him good movie bad.

1231
01:00:13,100 --> 01:00:16,440
But going back, rewatching it.

1232
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,580
Knowing the through line and actually being able to see like,

1233
01:00:19,580 --> 01:00:22,480
oh, this script isn't just completely batshit bananas.

1234
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:24,520
Like there is a method to it.

1235
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:28,460
There is a reason for like his character, the hatred of women,

1236
01:00:28,460 --> 01:00:30,760
as well as going insane.

1237
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,220
Rabie because rabies like it all makes sense.

1238
01:00:33,220 --> 01:00:35,260
And I'm like, this movie is so much

1239
01:00:35,260 --> 01:00:37,760
there's so much more here than I ever would have thought initially.

1240
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:40,100
And I'm going to up that to good good.

1241
01:00:40,100 --> 01:00:41,740
I think it's a great film.

1242
01:00:41,740 --> 01:00:44,260
Definitely up there in his.

1243
01:00:44,260 --> 01:00:47,300
In his filmography, this is going to be a hard one to beat.

1244
01:00:48,100 --> 01:00:49,440
Yeah, I'm with you.

1245
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:53,240
This is so much fun to watch every time on on second watch for me.

1246
01:00:53,580 --> 01:00:55,820
I like this way more.

1247
01:00:55,820 --> 01:00:57,440
I thought it was way more interesting.

1248
01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:59,080
I like the music even.

1249
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:02,060
Yeah, which the first time I watched, I was like, the fuck is this?

1250
01:01:02,420 --> 01:01:05,420
And the second time watching, I was like, OK, this kind of fucking works for this.

1251
01:01:05,820 --> 01:01:08,020
Like the unreliable narrator.

1252
01:01:08,020 --> 01:01:11,420
And it gets so much more absurd through the movie.

1253
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:15,300
Like when he's calling this therapist after he does the murder

1254
01:01:15,300 --> 01:01:18,000
and he's trying to like get her to like make an appointment earlier.

1255
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:21,660
And as soon as she hangs up the phone, there's like that beefcake there.

1256
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:24,300
He's the beefcake is there before.

1257
01:01:24,300 --> 01:01:25,600
Was he? Yeah.

1258
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:26,540
The beefcake.

1259
01:01:26,540 --> 01:01:28,580
No, she's she's hot beefcake was there.

1260
01:01:29,380 --> 01:01:31,040
She's getting it in.

1261
01:01:31,940 --> 01:01:34,420
Just the the back and forth

1262
01:01:34,420 --> 01:01:37,240
in the big ending scene there where he's on the street

1263
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:40,860
with a blood goatee talking to the corner of a building.

1264
01:01:41,380 --> 01:01:44,360
And then and then he's looking pristine and with perfect hair

1265
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:47,020
and Elizabeth Ashley's office still holding the piece of wood

1266
01:01:47,020 --> 01:01:48,600
that he's trying to stake himself with.

1267
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:50,960
Yeah, like that's that was very artful.

1268
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:55,900
I would you stop worrying and just get on with your big romance.

1269
01:02:00,700 --> 01:02:02,100
I mean, you're right.

1270
01:02:02,100 --> 01:02:05,200
I think that there's there's something deeper

1271
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:07,340
in it to be found in the movie.

1272
01:02:07,340 --> 01:02:11,880
And I think that it was unfortunate that at that time

1273
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:16,980
they had to market it and like promote it as something kind of silly and schlocky.

1274
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:19,220
Yeah, marketing is its own thing.

1275
01:02:19,220 --> 01:02:22,660
And I don't know if any of you guys work in marketing,

1276
01:02:22,700 --> 01:02:24,800
but I'm still going to say, yeah, fuck those guys.

1277
01:02:27,060 --> 01:02:29,000
Because they resemble that.

1278
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:32,100
So why? I resemble you.

1279
01:02:32,100 --> 01:02:34,600
So without the beard, it's true.

1280
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:37,700
Yeah. Well, marketing got us to watch jujitsu.

1281
01:02:37,700 --> 01:02:42,840
So which I maintain is a awesome piece of trash.

1282
01:02:44,540 --> 01:02:46,420
I don't have crab man in it.

1283
01:02:46,420 --> 01:02:49,220
It's got that awesome like first person fight scene.

1284
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:52,460
Oh, yeah.

1285
01:02:52,460 --> 01:02:55,420
CGI shuriken just shooting at your face.

1286
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:59,260
Oh, man. Yeah. All the CGI bullet holes and stuff.

1287
01:02:59,260 --> 01:03:01,720
It's like, why is this movie is so bad?

1288
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:04,400
And then the comic book transition.

1289
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:05,500
Yeah, for some reason.

1290
01:03:05,500 --> 01:03:07,400
I love it. Yeah.

1291
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:08,640
That's my primal.

1292
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:10,840
You guys, you guys out there, you're nerds.

1293
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:11,800
You're going to love this.

1294
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:14,740
Look, comic book, see comic book equals good.

1295
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:16,480
That was our episode one.

1296
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:18,680
It was face off versus bat.

1297
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:19,740
Oh, astounding.

1298
01:03:19,740 --> 01:03:20,980
Well, that's man.

1299
01:03:20,980 --> 01:03:22,620
No contest. She was.

1300
01:03:22,620 --> 01:03:23,480
Yeah, right.

1301
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:25,780
Jujitsu wins. Yeah.

1302
01:03:25,780 --> 01:03:28,280
Yeah, obviously.

1303
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:32,020
With the predator pants.

1304
01:03:33,420 --> 01:03:37,600
OK, how many hours can the Jujitsu alien suck on a peach for?

1305
01:03:38,500 --> 01:03:40,640
Oh, I don't think you had an actual mouth.

1306
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:42,160
So not many.

1307
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:44,100
I mean, you don't need a mouth to peach.

1308
01:03:44,100 --> 01:03:45,640
I think any orifice would do.

1309
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:49,480
Yeah. It's all it's just butts and butts.

1310
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:51,980
Yeah. Prison pocket.

1311
01:03:51,980 --> 01:03:53,340
I mean, yeah.

1312
01:03:53,340 --> 01:03:55,380
Yeah. It's a really an ass to ask.

1313
01:03:55,380 --> 01:03:59,220
Yeah, you got it. You guys understand.

1314
01:03:59,220 --> 01:04:01,380
We've been to prison. Sure.

1315
01:04:03,620 --> 01:04:06,660
So in terms of these two films,

1316
01:04:07,060 --> 01:04:09,100
I would like to know your guys' opinion.

1317
01:04:09,100 --> 01:04:13,000
And in terms of where these are going to score in the end, your opinions do not matter.

1318
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:16,100
Ultimately, yeah, you your vote doesn't count.

1319
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:17,760
But we do want to hear it.

1320
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:19,680
Just like the Electoral College.

1321
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:23,680
What where would you which one of these movies would you put forward in the bracket?

1322
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:26,660
Personally, I would say Color Out of Space,

1323
01:04:27,420 --> 01:04:30,420
although I think they're both important historically

1324
01:04:31,500 --> 01:04:32,600
in the cage timeline.

1325
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:34,640
Both recommendable for different reasons.

1326
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:37,300
I think that's easy to say. Yeah.

1327
01:04:38,900 --> 01:04:42,400
Vampires Kiss, a very iconic movie, very important movie.

1328
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:43,840
It's a fun movie.

1329
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:45,780
I would go with Color Out of Space.

1330
01:04:45,780 --> 01:04:48,180
That's me. That's

1331
01:04:48,180 --> 01:04:50,740
it's almost unfair to have to choose between those two

1332
01:04:50,740 --> 01:04:54,320
because they really do pull long punches in both their categories.

1333
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:56,420
But that's the whole point of our show.

1334
01:04:56,420 --> 01:04:58,120
It only gets harder. I know.

1335
01:04:58,120 --> 01:04:59,620
Kind of like me.

1336
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:01,860
Only if there's a bat around.

1337
01:05:01,860 --> 01:05:04,860
Yeah, I was drunk and also horny.

1338
01:05:06,260 --> 01:05:09,900
Yeah, honestly, you know, being being drunk and horny

1339
01:05:09,900 --> 01:05:12,000
and feeling kind of sensual myself.

1340
01:05:13,540 --> 01:05:16,500
I'm going to say Color Out of Space, not because majority so far,

1341
01:05:16,500 --> 01:05:19,200
but because all around, like you're looking at

1342
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:21,840
you're looking at the soundtrack,

1343
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:24,240
you're looking at the filmmaking of the whole thing.

1344
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:27,440
All of it was just such a beautifully put together thing

1345
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:32,820
and it made such a beautifully horrific beast that I just I love it.

1346
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:36,820
And at the time we watched in order, the

1347
01:05:37,420 --> 01:05:41,120
Vampires Kiss and everything else, that was a breath of fresh air.

1348
01:05:41,420 --> 01:05:44,560
But honestly, even though both films stay with me,

1349
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:47,560
Color Out of Space held a lot more in my mind

1350
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:51,560
and it kind of sticks around more there versus Vampires Kiss.

1351
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:54,400
It's just it just comes down to cohesion at the end of the day.

1352
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:55,900
Yeah, yeah.

1353
01:05:55,900 --> 01:05:59,900
Which is which is why I call Vampires Kiss an interesting failure.

1354
01:05:59,900 --> 01:06:01,240
They got a lot of good themes in there

1355
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:03,280
and they're saying a lot of good things with them.

1356
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:05,040
Yeah, it's it's just some of them.

1357
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:06,840
Some of them kind of trail off.

1358
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:10,780
Though, if I had seen Jennifer Beals nipples,

1359
01:06:10,780 --> 01:06:12,280
it may have been a different choice.

1360
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:14,280
The paces were bad.

1361
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:16,660
Yeah, like don't just hide them.

1362
01:06:16,660 --> 01:06:17,860
Yes. Yeah.

1363
01:06:17,860 --> 01:06:20,120
Like if you don't want to show any boob, that's fine.

1364
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:25,660
But like, just don't are they just find her body double from Flashdance.

1365
01:06:25,660 --> 01:06:27,340
Hello, no brainer.

1366
01:06:27,340 --> 01:06:32,040
Or like cut the pasties smaller, not have them be like.

1367
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:34,400
I mean, obviously, he wasn't into her anyway, right?

1368
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:36,680
Like that was the yogurt situation, right?

1369
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:43,180
Now, are they pasties or are they like that old like strapless bra?

1370
01:06:43,180 --> 01:06:45,020
That's what I could be. Yeah.

1371
01:06:45,020 --> 01:06:50,560
But I mean, either way, you make some very salient points about all of that.

1372
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:57,000
Well, I mean, about soundtrack cinematography, all that nipples. Nick.

1373
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:03,000
But oh, no, I'm I'm still solidly like if I had to show

1374
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:06,200
one of these movies to somebody at any point,

1375
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:13,440
I know I could get a consistent reaction from Vampire's Kiss.

1376
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:21,180
Vampire's Kiss that I wouldn't necessarily get every time from Color Out of Space.

1377
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:28,720
And I feel like in my own head experiment with how I approach this,

1378
01:07:29,460 --> 01:07:31,920
that's that's got a lot more to me.

1379
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:36,440
And I mean, also, like I said, there's not a moment that Nicholas Cage

1380
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:41,640
is on screen that I'm not just completely taken for a ride in this movie.

1381
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:46,540
It just offers so much performance and there's no Lavinia.

1382
01:07:47,340 --> 01:07:51,320
Like when I say we're trying to find Nicholas Cage's best movie,

1383
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:54,420
that best is in heavy air quotes because I just want to know

1384
01:07:54,820 --> 01:07:57,820
what the most entertaining Nicholas Cage is.

1385
01:07:57,820 --> 01:08:00,260
And it's definitely Vampire's Kiss is definitely up there.

1386
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:03,560
So I'm going to say Vampire's Kiss.

1387
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:06,860
Excellent. Hey, if it's just a performance, Deadfall wins them all.

1388
01:08:06,860 --> 01:08:10,640
Yeah, we're putting it into the bracket.

1389
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:13,200
You can scratch your head till the end of days on that one.

1390
01:08:14,340 --> 01:08:16,200
I definitely see where you guys are coming from.

1391
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:18,380
And that's that's a really good argument.

1392
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:24,440
Yeah. And, you know, everybody takes like their own approach to what this is.

1393
01:08:24,440 --> 01:08:29,860
Like we could literally reorganize the bracket and have different winners.

1394
01:08:29,860 --> 01:08:32,560
Yeah. Oh, every time. Yeah.

1395
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:35,400
So this is I mean, we're we're certainly not

1396
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:39,760
disagreeing with you about Color Out of Space being a terrific movie.

1397
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:40,660
I love that film.

1398
01:08:40,660 --> 01:08:43,200
It's again, the reason I wanted to start this.

1399
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:48,540
In terms of having to rewatch something, I would definitely say Color Out of Space.

1400
01:08:48,540 --> 01:08:51,900
But but you're right, though, if you're if you're approaching somebody

1401
01:08:51,900 --> 01:08:54,440
who's like, what's Nick Cage all about?

1402
01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:55,980
Like, I don't get it.

1403
01:08:55,980 --> 01:08:58,340
Then you're going to show them Vampire's Kiss.

1404
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:00,280
100 percent. I hope that you do.

1405
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:02,380
Yeah, I'm going to show them that episode of Community.

1406
01:09:02,380 --> 01:09:04,540
All the online. Oh, good choice.

1407
01:09:04,540 --> 01:09:08,180
No, no. All the online reviewers seem to think that his very best work

1408
01:09:08,180 --> 01:09:10,580
was Con Air and Gone in 60 Seconds.

1409
01:09:10,580 --> 01:09:12,820
Gone in 60 Seconds can suck it.

1410
01:09:12,820 --> 01:09:15,620
Gone in 60 seconds somehow, everybody.

1411
01:09:15,620 --> 01:09:19,660
Have you guys ever had a movie that that that you never liked

1412
01:09:19,700 --> 01:09:21,400
that you hated every time you watched it?

1413
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:24,260
You kept going back to it, just trying to bang your head against it,

1414
01:09:24,260 --> 01:09:26,860
being like, OK, what's in here?

1415
01:09:26,860 --> 01:09:29,080
What do people see? Why?

1416
01:09:29,380 --> 01:09:32,080
I had to do an illustration for the Life Aquatic,

1417
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:34,680
and I've always hated that director. Me too.

1418
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:35,740
And like I watch him.

1419
01:09:35,740 --> 01:09:36,620
I've I watched the movie.

1420
01:09:36,620 --> 01:09:39,420
I was like fell asleep in five minutes, had to watch it again the next day.

1421
01:09:39,420 --> 01:09:41,020
Fell asleep in five minutes.

1422
01:09:41,020 --> 01:09:43,760
Third time I watched it, got 10 minutes into it, got a chuckle out of me.

1423
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:45,560
And now it's one of my favorite movies.

1424
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:49,020
So it's kind of like a weird like Stockholm syndrome situation.

1425
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:54,800
We need a soundboard button for I was a little drunk

1426
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:58,800
and a little horny just to play repeatedly during that.

1427
01:09:58,800 --> 01:09:59,800
I'm so yeah.

1428
01:10:01,500 --> 01:10:02,800
Can we can we mod this?

1429
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:04,640
Probably. OK.

1430
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:07,380
Yeah. So thank you guys for being here.

1431
01:10:08,020 --> 01:10:11,620
Do you guys want to just give a little shout out to your shows?

1432
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:13,460
Yeah. What do you got to pitch?

1433
01:10:13,460 --> 01:10:15,780
Yeah. So we're part of Cage's Kiss.

1434
01:10:15,780 --> 01:10:21,200
We try to glean whatever kernels of wisdom we can from his movies and his life.

1435
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:25,960
And we've just we've been doing it forever.

1436
01:10:26,060 --> 01:10:28,140
And I don't remember a time before it.

1437
01:10:29,500 --> 01:10:30,400
Unfortunately.

1438
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:36,040
Also, Donnie and I enjoy voice acting on the side.

1439
01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:40,980
And I have another little fun podcast about witches and stories

1440
01:10:40,980 --> 01:10:43,720
and history called Bedknobs and Broom Flicks.

1441
01:10:44,180 --> 01:10:48,560
And I'm kind of looking forward to an episode I've coming up on

1442
01:10:49,260 --> 01:10:51,260
Cinema Recall in his podcast.

1443
01:10:51,260 --> 01:10:54,620
We're going to be talking about of all things, because people couldn't decide

1444
01:10:54,620 --> 01:10:56,760
to choose Jaws 4 for some reason.

1445
01:10:56,760 --> 01:11:01,960
We're going to talk about JFK because why not?

1446
01:11:02,540 --> 01:11:04,500
Jaws 4 JFK.

1447
01:11:04,500 --> 01:11:07,340
Same thing. I mean, it really is, honestly.

1448
01:11:08,540 --> 01:11:10,740
Just the back of the brooder films.

1449
01:11:10,740 --> 01:11:11,440
A little lamb.

1450
01:11:11,440 --> 01:11:14,080
No, they're not just watching the brooder films.

1451
01:11:16,180 --> 01:11:20,020
Hey, this comedy podcast about to really turn it up a notch.

1452
01:11:20,060 --> 01:11:22,120
Yeah. Don't listen to our 9-11 episode either.

1453
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:23,620
Yeah. Oh, yeah.

1454
01:11:23,620 --> 01:11:25,360
That'll get you kicked.

1455
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:27,720
Just listening to that gets people canceled.

1456
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:31,700
9-11 is your favorite holiday.

1457
01:11:31,700 --> 01:11:33,500
It gets you. Yeah.

1458
01:11:33,500 --> 01:11:36,140
I mean, if you're going to make up holidays, just fuck it.

1459
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:41,780
Yeah. That like Linda said, doing voice acting stuff.

1460
01:11:41,780 --> 01:11:46,280
And I am also getting geared up to do another full month of shark movie reviews.

1461
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:49,180
So that's can be interesting once we get that ball rolling.

1462
01:11:49,180 --> 01:11:51,180
You just do that during shark month.

1463
01:11:51,180 --> 01:11:54,020
No, I'm trying to time it with it if I can.

1464
01:11:54,020 --> 01:11:57,980
But I intermittently do these like every two to three months, I will.

1465
01:11:58,580 --> 01:12:02,620
And this is this is a search to go through all the shittiest shark

1466
01:12:02,620 --> 01:12:05,820
films I can to find some chunks of gold.

1467
01:12:05,860 --> 01:12:10,300
Did you talk about that Italian zombie movie where the zombie fights a shark?

1468
01:12:10,860 --> 01:12:12,460
Was zombie shark? Yes.

1469
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:18,140
The last time I did this, the best film I got out of it was Bad CGI Sharks.

1470
01:12:18,140 --> 01:12:20,280
That is an amazing, amazing.

1471
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:21,580
Oh, that's the title of it.

1472
01:12:21,580 --> 01:12:23,840
It's called Bad CGI Sharks.

1473
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:25,880
Yes. I mean, I guess go with what you know.

1474
01:12:26,480 --> 01:12:31,120
Donnie, didn't you review porn for no nut November?

1475
01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:34,120
You got my attention.

1476
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:41,200
Got put off, but I am still doing a full month of story porn.

1477
01:12:41,900 --> 01:12:46,540
So parody porn that has story has something going on other than just fucking.

1478
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:49,640
But then also, yes, the golden era of porn,

1479
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:54,540
because they actually had something going on in that shit versus just banging and screwing.

1480
01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:59,280
When I was a kid, I was riding my bike down to go work out.

1481
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:02,320
And the fence story.

1482
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:03,520
The fence story.

1483
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:08,160
No, no. But I found like a box of pornos.

1484
01:13:08,460 --> 01:13:11,460
And like I was like, oh, man, I'm going to have to come back

1485
01:13:11,460 --> 01:13:14,400
and grab these on my way home, because obviously I was going to take them to the gym.

1486
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:19,600
And because I'm I want to get my pump on when I get home.

1487
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:25,240
Two. But one of them was this porno.

1488
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:30,440
And it was about this like nerd who I can't remember what it was.

1489
01:13:30,480 --> 01:13:35,420
But he gets sent back in time to like ye olde medieval times.

1490
01:13:35,820 --> 01:13:40,020
And I was like, oh, man, this is fucking hilarious and great.

1491
01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:43,220
But then it turned into a foot fetish movie at the same time.

1492
01:13:43,220 --> 01:13:46,660
And I was like, OK, this is really weird, because that's not like

1493
01:13:46,660 --> 01:13:50,700
the era that I want to get into feet.

1494
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:54,700
It's like that's just corns all over them.

1495
01:13:54,900 --> 01:13:57,040
Bunions. I hate a good bun.

1496
01:13:57,040 --> 01:13:57,980
Yeah. Oh, man. Yeah.

1497
01:13:57,980 --> 01:14:00,780
If I'm going to go shrimp and I want some nice clean toes.

1498
01:14:00,780 --> 01:14:04,920
Don't call it shrimp and I'm sorry that you guys love shrimp.

1499
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:06,820
But that's the term for it.

1500
01:14:06,820 --> 01:14:08,260
You're fucking up shrimp for me.

1501
01:14:08,260 --> 01:14:10,560
It's terrible. I hate it.

1502
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:12,560
What do we got coming up next time, Peter?

1503
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:16,660
I don't know. I truly don't have it.

1504
01:14:16,660 --> 01:14:17,700
Another movie.

1505
01:14:17,700 --> 01:14:18,960
The Rock vs. National Treasure.

1506
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:21,060
I think that's right. With Seth.

1507
01:14:21,060 --> 01:14:23,060
All right. Have a great night, everyone.

1508
01:14:23,060 --> 01:14:24,740
Yeah. Thank you for listening.

1509
01:14:24,740 --> 01:14:27,580
Thank you for our sparkle buddies on Patreon.

1510
01:14:27,980 --> 01:14:32,900
Josh, John, Josie, Rico, Matt and Adam and Caged Dancers, Ira, John, Freeman

1511
01:14:32,900 --> 01:14:35,740
and Lance. And you can find us on all the shit.

1512
01:14:35,780 --> 01:14:39,420
We're cage match pod or cage underscore match underscore pod.

1513
01:14:39,820 --> 01:14:41,060
Send us money on Patreon.

1514
01:14:41,060 --> 01:14:45,720
Yeah. Give us money because for reasons, we'll do good stuff with it.

1515
01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:48,460
I don't know. Maybe.

1516
01:14:48,900 --> 01:14:50,700
We'll do stuff with it.

1517
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:52,940
Double masculine, double pump masculine.

1518
01:14:53,260 --> 01:14:55,140
A little masculine.

1519
01:14:56,100 --> 01:14:58,200
Bye bye.

1520
01:15:02,580 --> 01:15:04,480
Bye bye.

1521
01:15:08,480 --> 01:15:10,880
What deep thought are you in?

1522
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:13,220
Whether or not I have to go to the bathroom before we start.

1523
01:15:13,220 --> 01:15:14,660
You might as well.

1524
01:15:14,660 --> 01:15:18,160
Yeah, I mean, you're in the correct moment to go do it if you want to do it.

1525
01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:20,100
Don't make us pull the show over.

1526
01:15:20,100 --> 01:15:22,600
Yeah. Quit wasting my time, Sean.

1527
01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:24,760
With that hog out.

1528
01:15:26,900 --> 01:15:29,200
I'll take a pissless cage.

1529
01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:32,700
A pissless cage, indeed.

1530
01:15:34,700 --> 01:15:38,380
Yeah, so I don't know if you guys have listened to our show at all, but we're.

1531
01:15:38,420 --> 01:15:39,780
I have.

1532
01:15:39,780 --> 01:15:41,040
Dumb.

1533
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:43,420
You can say and do whatever you want on here.

1534
01:15:44,020 --> 01:15:45,680
But jokes, whatever.

1535
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:46,420
It really doesn't matter.

1536
01:15:46,420 --> 01:15:49,320
Peter's going to edit this to make us all sound racist in the end anyway.

1537
01:15:50,460 --> 01:15:54,800
Every time we have a history with the Polish.

1538
01:15:59,900 --> 01:16:02,440
All right. You guys are going to make perfect sense for us.

1539
01:16:02,440 --> 01:16:06,600
Well, when we recorded about this before, our guest pointed out to us the whole

1540
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:08,900
hierarchy of llamas versus alpacas.

1541
01:16:08,900 --> 01:16:12,580
So apparently it's rich people that own the alpacas.

1542
01:16:12,580 --> 01:16:21,020
OK, so there was a guy at the ultrasound spot that I went to recently and he was like,

1543
01:16:21,020 --> 01:16:22,880
oh, cool, cool, llama shirt.

1544
01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:27,720
And I know that the llamas are the ones with the long necks because L.

1545
01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:32,700
Long llama.

1546
01:16:32,700 --> 01:16:36,800
And then I looked at llamas and I was like and I looked at alpacas, I was like, they

1547
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:38,100
both have fucking long necks.

1548
01:16:38,100 --> 01:16:39,100
What?

1549
01:16:39,100 --> 01:16:40,100
They both have long necks.

1550
01:16:40,100 --> 01:16:41,100
This doesn't mean anything to me.

1551
01:16:41,100 --> 01:16:42,100
I'm worse off now.

1552
01:16:42,100 --> 01:16:43,100
Now you're just more confused.

1553
01:16:43,100 --> 01:16:44,100
Yeah.

1554
01:16:44,100 --> 01:16:45,100
Now I'm just assuming everything's a llama.

1555
01:16:45,100 --> 01:16:46,100
Alpacas are softer.

1556
01:16:46,100 --> 01:17:01,100
It's a llama.