Oh, God. Oh, my God.
Real quick about
how tall do we think this guy is?
Oh, because it's going to grow.
I would say that's like one point seven five inches.
Oh, my goodness. You're a ruler.
Yeah, but I don't want to go all the way back to my one point seven five seems good.
All right. Something like that.
Well, we'll call it there.
All right. All right. Let me say that.
I don't think that that container is going to be able to contain the stress.
Sasquatch can anything contain the Sasquatch? No.
I would give it four centimeters.
Hmm. Going European.
Now I have to get a rule.
Yeah, now we're going to find out.
Now we're we need the truth.
All right. What was the measurement?
Just a hair over two inches.
Oh, OK.
OK. So five point something centimeters.
I think we both won because we didn't go over.
Yeah. Price is right. Rules.
We win.
Also, I do want to warn you guys that literally I wasn't joking
that I'm the worst person to do this because I don't know anything about movies.
Neither do I. That's not the point. Oh, great.
Oh, yeah. No, no. That's why we're not film critics.
That's why we're not like finding the critically best Nicholas Cage movie.
This is that would be too easy.
Like we could just Google that. Right.
And it would be.
I think Las Vegas.
That's what I was going to say.
Just because that's the serious.
Well, it's the one you got an Oscar for. Right.
So critically, that's got to be the best.
What was his Oscar nomination for for adaptation?
Was it best actor, best supporting actor?
That's a good question, actually. OK, good.
I feel like I'm on my level because these are all the questions
I could never answer, but you guys can play the twins.
He played twins in that movie.
So I think it was both two nominations. Yeah. Right.
It should. Well, because I'm moving one like almost everything
except for best actor.
I thought it was nominated for writing.
It definitely was nominated for it as well. Oh, did he?
OK. Oh, and we can Google stuff. Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah, because we edit the shit out of it.
So any time you got to look something up, maybe I should get my phone.
So I have to Google everything. Yeah, go for it.
OK. Not going to hurt our feelings.
I don't bother Googling it anymore because I'm just going to lie.
Yeah. Just do it off the dome. Make it up. Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely. This podcast, you can do anything.
It's you know, there's a world of freedom in not respecting your audience.
Yeah. That just opens up.
And I feel that way. It shows.
So Chris Cooper got the nomination for best supporting role
and Nick is best actor in a leading role.
I think it should have been Donald was the better character.
Yeah, I agree with that.
I got shot. You seen that?
That fucked up.
No, I didn't even know that was a movie.
This is a level that you're working with here.
But what's it? Do you want to summarize it briefly?
Just Nick Cage plays Charlie Kaufman, real life writer
Charlie Kaufman in a movie written by Charlie Kaufman
about him not writing a movie about plants.
Yeah. Yeah. He's trying to adapt a book
that doesn't have like a plot into a film.
And he's struggling to do that because obviously there's
challenges involved in writing something that doesn't have plot
because it's about plants and he struggles.
But then he's got this fictional twin brother
who decides that he wants to get into film writing.
And he basically starts writing like Michael Bay movies and becomes popular.
And Charlie Kaufman just gets more neurotic about it.
But the best like this movie, the best part about it is real life.
Charlie Kaufman was supposed to write a book about plants
or write a movie about plants and instead wrote this movie
about not being able to write a movie about plants and turn that in.
And it's got made.
Weirdly meta. It's the same guy who made Being John Malkovich.
Oh, yeah. So it's got that kind of level.
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
OK, I'm going to watch that one next.
Yeah. All right.
Two and a half, two and a hair and Sasquatch going into the water.
Start the timer.
Boy, that was anti-climactic.
I do the timer. It's moist.
No, it's fine.
OK. Also, we surprise later.
I saw I saw Horn earlier and he was like,
I don't listen to your podcast anymore because I hate that you didn't make
adaptation go forward.
I was like, dude, that was episode two. Yeah.
Oh, you really dug in.
We're on episode like 41 right now.
Yeah, this is a thing we're doing.
Give it another listen.
I'm sorry we lost out on you, Nick.
Yeah, I want that viewership.
It's probably made a lot of people angry is what I'm guessing.
Oh, absolutely. Oh, we have.
I mean, we realize that you could see them are here.
The majority I thought it was like you're going to do them all.
And then we've been doing this for well over a year.
Oh, yeah. OK.
So I've missed the boat on that, too.
But I'm going to go back.
I'm going to listen to every single one.
Don't start starting at like episode seven.
I'd say seven, eight.
We kind of hit a little bit of a stride
and figure out that we're not good at reviewing movies.
The same day we had to switch into Hayden's room.
Peter just yelled at us.
Yeah, I became dead that day.
I was just I had no patience for the two movies and it was just a nonsense day.
So did that explosion make the cut like the edit cut?
No, no.
But I have the raw audio for a new $15 tier.
I'm going to hear me be a dick.
Listen to Peter Dressus down. Yeah.
Before we get going, I do have a couple of Christmas gifts.
Oh, that one's for Peter.
Thank you.
So sweet.
Oh, also, happy New Year.
Happy New Year.
Oh, yeah, it's the first.
I didn't bring you guys any presents.
I didn't bring you anything either,
but you're welcome to share this coffee with me.
It's opened and I've drank three quarters of it.
I'd love to. OK.
Thank you.
Oh, I think I just tried that and it's delicious.
Thank you. Yeah.
I also got a a sign machine.
So here is a shock sign.
Here's a female side.
Wow.
I figure these are things that you guys can use
ongoing in your friendships.
End of the world, say is good.
Oh, what are we going to do?
I got an instant audience.
So here's applause.
You're going to use that one a lot, aren't you?
Yeah. Wow.
You shouldn't have given this to me at the beginning of the plot.
I know now we have too much weird power.
This isn't my problem.
This is Peter's problem.
Peter's going to have to edit all of this out.
Oh, damn it, Nick.
Oh, you know, I mean, use your sign machine for that.
I put it on the floor already.
Now, speaking of things you guys are tired of, welcome back to Cage
Match, going around about way of meeting Nicholas Cage.
I'm your host, Sean, here with my co-host Nick and Nick
and our producer Peter. Hello.
And we have a special guest today, Alex Guy. Hello.
Welcome to Cage Match. Thank you.
We take 64 Nicholas Cage movies and figure out what
the most like Nicholas Cage movie is by as decided by us. Yeah.
Yeah. And people on the Internet kind of think that we're OK.
Hey, yeah, that's a good line.
There are dozens of us.
Yeah, that's about the right number.
So, Alex, why don't you tell us a little bit about yourself?
Just in general.
And then what is your relationship with Nick Cage up to this point?
OK, I'm Alex Guy.
I am from Seattle, which is weird.
I'm a musician and I play violin and viola and piano.
And I tour around a lot.
But my secret, an ideal dream job when I was growing up
were either being a librarian or a comedian.
This is my first shot at doing anything funny.
So I'm very, very excited.
I'm expecting to fail pretty badly, but I feel like that will build characters.
So I'm ready for that.
And OK, let's see.
My relationship with Nicholas Cage is, I think, more or less nonexistent.
Like I could have picked him out of the lineup or if he walked down the street,
especially if he was dressed as one of the characters of the very few movies
I've seen him in, I could probably recognize him.
But pretty much none.
So this was kind of fun to just get to know him a little bit
in two weird semi slapstick contexts.
Oh, and these are good films, too. These are.
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
I mean, Raising Arizona and Peggy Sue got married.
People have fond memories about these films.
Oh, yeah.
I would love to meet the person who doesn't have fond memories of them.
Like, well, I was just thinking about it.
It's like, oh, what would non fond memories like who was getting like
just beat up in the back of like a sizzler
while Peggy Sue got married was on the TV?
It's like, that's a terrible story.
You don't want to remember that.
It would be the soundtrack to Raising Arizona.
The.
I don't know. My sister,
when I said we were watching this the first time, she was very like,
that voice.
So people are just voice people are strong.
Oh, yeah. Nicholas Cage's voice in this film.
So I assume we're talking about Peggy Sue got married.
Sure. Yeah.
Started out. Yeah.
OK, I would say I totally agree with the voice because I again,
I wasn't familiar with Nick Cage too much.
But when I saw him in Raising Arizona, I was like, oh, my God,
I like this guy so much more.
Like he drove me crazy and Peggy Sue got married, to be quite honest.
Just a quick summarization.
The Peggy Sue got married Peggy Sue in the midst of
going through a divorce, goes to her 25th anniversary,
like high school reunion has kind of a
a mental breakdown when Nicholas Cage, her husband shows up
and so she faints, then goes back in time
and to when she was a kid and enjoys all the things she didn't get to enjoy
because she was in this relationship.
But then in the end decides, however, to move forward.
And maybe things change, maybe they don't change.
And maybe she changed the past.
But obviously not significantly.
Oh, yeah. Was there any? OK.
Like, so one of the things is that Nick Cage in high school wants to be a musician.
But you know, from the beginning of the movie that he's like a failed musician.
Yeah, essentially.
But then did any of was any of that even any different?
Like, do you guys remember?
The one thing they have is the poet kid,
not Dedric Bader, not Dedric Bader, but looks a lot like a young Dedric Bader.
Yeah, he sure does.
He like what's he dedicated, dedicated like in the forward or well,
not the forward, the dedication.
He dedicates the book to her, even though in high school,
originally they never interacted. Right. OK.
I think there were a lot of things that ended up getting cut out of a longer
version of this movie.
Like there was the woman who is at the reunion in a wheelchair.
And it's like, oh, Barbara or whatever.
And that was supposed to be a whole story arc and it never gets played out.
Well, there's context.
There's the scene where like the guy's driving
and the girl's making out with them while they're driving.
And that's when they see Peggy Sue with not Dedric Bader.
And I'm like, this is this is when she gets put in the wheelchair.
But it's it wasn't the same woman.
Now, technically, it could have been that moment when they run her over.
Just a little hit and a little light hit and run in the 50s between friends.
What's the big deal?
I think you sweep that under the rug in the 50s, usually.
Well, if your family's wealthy in town, then just easily dismissed.
When first thing you do when you go back in time is we've learned
through any time travel movies, you get drunk.
Oh, yeah. With your parents.
Boldly. But then, yeah, the parents were all like you were drinking.
And what's the 50s?
Yeah, probably fine.
Like, it wouldn't be very proper of her.
She's a senior in high school.
She might be 18.
I'm pretty sure that was the drinking age at that point, wasn't it?
What did the drinking age change?
No, it would have been 18 at that point.
Probably. So they probably were because they go to that bar
or the club at one point.
She and not Dedric Bader.
Oh, and she gets served a drink.
Yeah, right. Yeah.
And they leave the trick, Bader, a whole bottle, a whole bottle.
Yeah. Don't take it with them.
Those idiots.
That's very spaghetti Western.
Because the first person, the first woman ever
touches his throbbing thrill hammer is still in love with her ex boyfriend.
Do you think she was his first? Probably.
He kind of acted like he was real epic and dramatic about it.
He was very much like, you're going to move with me to Utah and pull polygamy is legal.
Race chickens. That's right.
Yeah, chickens. That was a weird, weird reach.
Weird reach, dude.
It was a strange decision.
I don't from a film standpoint, it's like that's a fucking curveball.
I wasn't expecting.
I mean, I still find it so upsetting that you're a woman in your mid 40s
fully on board and in love with the 17 year old's poetry.
Now hold on. I have to sleep with them.
Let's let me. OK, wait.
That poetry was sick.
Yeah, that's really powerful.
Like I could get I could get by with like, OK, it's with Nick Cage,
because that's your ex husband.
You did like have 20 out of years together.
You slept with him already. That's fine.
But now you're in love with the 17 year old poet.
Here's a question that I've got that's going to make us think.
Maybe not much and maybe not very deeply.
Are you guys ready for thinking?
I'm ready for the thing.
So if you go back in time, say you're like 40 years old or something,
you go back in time to like when you're 20, we'll say 20, 21.
Twenty one's a great time to go back in time to.
And you are at a bar and like, say you're going to hook up with somebody.
Is it weird and creepy because mentally you're like 40?
But like your body is 20, you went back in time.
What what are the time travelers laws
regarding like half your age plus seven or whatever?
That is a great question.
I think the laws are out the window, but it's personal preference.
So you should answer for yourself.
What would you do? Ask the time cops.
Yeah.
Fuck the time cops.
I don't know. I got nothing for that.
Now, I'm not going to put myself out there on this one.
I might have a real problematic opinion on this.
I don't know. I mean,
like, but stuff only, I guess.
I was going to say foot stuff only.
Oh, yeah, that's fair.
Two loopholes.
It's fine. At 21, you're at a bar.
It just in terms of like consent age, still weird.
I think it's more a mental thing, but just the fact that they're young.
Deirdre Fader is a consenting adult in this movie.
Yeah, he was 18.
Oh, yeah, that's true.
Also, she had like she'd had such a fantasy about him for so long,
and she had just seen him.
No, she's just seen the picture in the union.
Oh, and those track shorts.
Yes. It is like startling eyes, which also he didn't do anything athletic
in the actual. No, he's the worst runner lately.
But I could see why.
I mean, personally, for me, I think that if I went back, I just
I'm not actually attracted to people in their early 20s anymore
because I am a person in their mid 40s.
Well, that's not why it's just sort of naturally happened.
So I doubt I would probably go for some older person
and they would think that they were hooking up with a young person.
Little did they know they would be hooking up with a middle aged person
like a honeypot situation.
Totally. So that's probably what I would do.
I do like this idea of sleeping with older people going back in time,
but more in terms of like weaponizing that
because you could start taking out people you don't like
once they're nice and old and sleep with you by fucking them to death.
Right. Yeah.
Well, you've got all this like youthful energy and you can harness it
with your like old person mentality and give them heart attacks.
Wow. OK.
You're trying to get the will. You're a black widow.
The perfect crime. Wow.
All right. This really motivates motivates me to want to build a time machine.
So thanks for that.
No, I really like Peggy.
So you got married. I can't remember if I said this last time,
but this is kind of a reverse big.
Yeah, a little bit.
I do like how they get over the whole like in this era of filmmaking,
all teenagers just look 30 by just not having teenagers in this movie.
Totally. Yeah.
Oh, one thing that was weird, I was looking at ages of people
and Nick Cage when he filmed this was 22, I think.
And Helen Hunt, who plays his future daughter, was 24.
It's like weird, but that makes sense in terms of.
No, I mean, it's all fine, but it's just still strange.
Just like teenager thing, because she's also playing like a 15 year old or something.
No, she was just their first kid, wasn't she?
She'd be because they got Peggy Sue got pregnant at 18.
And then what reunion was it? 25th. All right.
So that's perfect. Yeah. All right.
How about Sophia Coppola? Let's come back to that.
Oh, so rough teenagers are weird.
Oh, she played the little sister.
I totally miss that. Wow. OK.
I have an assumption that like most of Peggy Sue's family died
in a horrible bus crash at some point. Oh.
Driven by Sophia. Maybe because she's just so like
when she sees her sister, she's like so overwhelmed.
She hasn't seen her sister in years. So I'm assuming she's dead.
Or they're just estranged because that was the other.
I was wondering that, too. Is she dead or is it just that they don't talk at all
anymore? I mean, I wouldn't want to talk to that.
Right. I mean, it's understandable.
We talked about it a bit, but Nicholas Cage's
vocal affectations in this film. Good God.
It's so good. I love his voice.
I love a Nicholas Cage voice after G Force.
It's now I get it.
I'm 100 percent on board with this voice.
Yeah, that was one of the big things, Alex.
I don't know if you knew this, but this was directed by his uncle.
And he kind of came to set and just started talking in that voice.
And everyone was like, fuck that, stop it.
And then he was like, nope, not gonna.
And the uncle tried to get him to stop and he did not.
Yeah. Wow. So was he already famous at that point?
No. Oh, so he's just kind of like a surly badass.
Yeah. I mean, it's a weird flex to be like, oh, Peggy Sue.
I mean, OK, so they had just had to live with it.
Yeah, I could see. Here's what here's how I took it.
I did not know that. But and it was so weird and annoying.
But then I also thought, OK, he's trying to be an artist, right?
He's trying to be a musician.
He's a teenage boy and he's
kind of a big fish in a small pond in some ways.
And I could actually see some dorky teenage boy doing that on purpose
to just like try it out and be different and be interesting or whatever.
So it could kind of work in that context, maybe.
I don't know why I'm defending it because I found it super annoying.
I kind of read it because he commits heart to any role he plays.
And I was like, he's supposed to be this big deal,
but never goes on, goes on to just media awkward.
He goes on to being a crazy Charlie, crazy Charlie.
Right. So just like. Is he just trying to play up that
he's actually just kind of a dorky kid, like refers to himself as Mr.
Entertainment. Oh, when he aspect, he says like,
do you think people still like me if I'm no longer Mr.
Entertainment? I was like, do people like him to begin with?
All I can think is like, people probably like you more if you stop calling yourself
that. Right. I don't know.
I've never stopped calling myself names like Nikki Showbiz.
And I haven't been involved in that in forever.
Nikki Showbiz. Yeah, that's you.
Let's do two Z's. Two Z's.
Oh, nice biz.
So do we want to talk about the attempted murder in the room?
Yeah, that scene is so weird.
I still do not understand it.
So it's that scene where he's sneaking into her room at night and like.
The pillow. Yeah. Yeah.
So first, the creepy fingers.
Again, that had to be something he just did and they couldn't get him to stop.
Yeah, it makes no sense in the movie.
I'm assuming when he's lit and he sees the shadow, he's just like
because he's always wanted to play Dracula.
So that was him trying to do a nose for a rock tooth thing.
For sure. Poorly.
I think the character also like Charlie just has such a love for like
melodrama and those.
I'm not super well versed in the entertainment of the 50s, but
or this was 1960, but 50s and 60s.
I imagine that the acting was much larger in that time.
And so he probably had a real melodramatic flair being Mr.
Entertainment and all there.
That's what I would have done.
But why did he try and murder her?
Because she slept with a homeboy.
I mean, he just thought about it.
Right. Like he didn't actually press the pillow on her face.
She woke up.
Oh, well, OK, I wasn't totally sure on that.
If he kind of like put the pillow aside and then because she was sort of talking
in her sleep and yeah, that was weird.
And then he was like, let's go to the basement.
And I was like, oh, he's actually going to kill her.
Don't go to a second location.
Why? She's like, OK, just walks down there with him.
Yeah, that was that was strange.
Were there any other attempted murders in the movie or is that just the one?
I think that was the only one.
And whatever happened to the lady in the wheelchair? Yeah.
Well, you Nick looked up that the woman that Charlie cheats on Peggy Sue
with is credited in the film, but her scene got. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
It was only his own dammit was only ever only ever in two other films.
The actress. Yeah.
But then she directed a few things, but not much. Yeah.
Yeah. So she has a credited role, but her scenes were cut is what it was.
Dang. So weird.
That's her name still does show up in the credits. Yeah.
Can you imagine the like director's cut or the uncut version of this movie?
It's so many cyborgs.
It's pretty fucking long.
And I cannot imagine what they really would have put in there
that would have made it better.
I mean, this is what an hour 40 hour 40.
Yeah, it feels like a strong.
It does feel like it did.
I felt like I was doing homework when I mean, I'm going to reveal my opinion.
Wait, is it too soon?
Oh, that's fine. No, you can say it.
And I just like, OK, I just feel like there's no contest
because this movie felt like doing homework.
I was like, OK, I agreed to do this.
I have to get through this film.
But I was like and I didn't do I was going to like fold laundry.
I was like, just watch the movie.
But I just feel like, OK, so one of the things is that
what's the name of the person who plays Peggy Sue? Kathleen Turner.
Thank you. OK. Who I love.
Don't look to me for names.
That is definitely not my thing.
Like no names. Yeah.
Nicky showed us no names.
I'm glad you wrote your name down.
So I did come back to that every week.
Well, I was just going to say that, like
multiple things I loved about Raising Arizona.
But the contrast for me of how Raising Arizona was so fucking funny,
but also had a lot of emotion behind it.
And I felt like Peggy Sue was just like kind of slapstick fake.
Like there was no real it's sort of funny.
But then it's also like there was nothing to grab on to of like
actually caring about people or like empathizing.
Whereas Raising Arizona was like everything like in a very explosive way.
Like so I kind of was missing that in the movie for a little gray.
But the other thing is that the way that she acts like when she's in her teenage
body, I think she's trying to be sort of like extra exuberant
and like really like girlish.
But she was already acting that way from like the first moment of the film.
And I was like, yeah, she's so like wishy washy,
like putting the dress on and stuff in the beginning, like,
oh, maybe I shouldn't do this.
Oh, this is foolish. I shouldn't.
Yeah. It could just be her deal.
But I was also like it would have been interesting if there was like more of a switch
when she actually went from one time to the other or something.
Yeah, I think Charlie really fucked with her head.
Yeah. In their marriage.
She seems very neurotic.
OK, so I should have more sympathy for her.
No, you don't have to have sympathy for her.
I don't have sympathy for her. Yeah.
I will say, oh, my God.
Sorry, I got to talk about her distraught face.
I was just about to ask you about her distraught face.
Everything's so hard.
Oh, this is a time where I really wish that everyone could see next
day, which very rarely one more.
That's pretty good.
That's very true to life, actually.
For the patrons. Yeah, good.
You lucky people who give us money.
You get to see Nick's face.
You guys don't reveal our emails or anything, right?
Because I'm sure there's people who love this movie that currently hate me.
Oh, no, no. OK.
Of the 12 or however many people are listening, it's like, oh,
it's at least 13. OK.
There's got to be at least two who are going to track me down.
You had seen this movie before, though, Alex, correct?
Yeah, I think so.
I think I saw it when I was maybe
maybe a teenager or maybe I just saw part of it on accident at some point.
Like, I didn't have a memory of the whole thing, but definitely
I had images in my head, so I'm sure I saw it some.
What is your opinion of Nicolas Cage's singing?
Oh, I thought he sounded good.
Am I? I could be.
I mean, I wasn't like really listening like to listen for that,
but I like I feel like he sounded good.
So he does give you two different, yeah, like genres of singing in this
between the R&B group and his like do op.
Yeah. Men's a cappella thing.
And his rewrite of a Beatles classic.
Well, I mean, that he totally bombs on.
I know. When he would change it to like,
you change, change the yes to use.
Yes to use.
Yes. So his songwriting choices leave something to be desired.
But but yeah, I mean, in the do up group, they were sort of like so so dorky.
It was more funny.
But like, yeah, I thought he sounded good.
I thought he was quite good.
Yeah. I enjoyed his voice in this.
I enjoyed it, too.
But I think Nicolas Cage is singing through the couple movies.
We've seen him sing in is pretty enjoyable for somebody who's dominantly an actor.
He's not looking to get an EGOT or anything. Right.
Although if he did, I'd be there for it.
Fuck, yeah. Yeah.
100 percent. You get it all in one go.
I do enjoy when he does when they do the quartet, the a cappella thing.
There is a guy with a guitar on the stage who's just snapping along.
He's just what did you say?
Nick is like, that's just the guy who brings the guitar to a party.
Oh, yeah. No. After that, he probably played Wonderwall.
Here's a new hit for you kids.
Yeah. He was on his own time travel adventure
to make Wonderwall smash it.
And it didn't take for years.
He's just been trying out this guy's from the year 38, nine.
And he he just came back in time.
He's like, there's a decade somewhere in this world that needs Wonderwall.
I'm the man to give it to them. Yeah.
I love Jim Carrey in that duop, though.
You know, he steals it for me.
Jim Carrey as Walt is a really good role.
So I like that weird.
It's weird. Like all these guys are such shitheads to. Oh, yeah.
Well, what is it that whatever Walt wants?
Walt, yeah, whatever Walter wants Walter gets.
And then we they like giggled after this.
I am so at the party.
It's like, hey, somebody turn out the lights so we can make out.
I mean, there are definitely parts of this film
involving the time travel aspect that I'm like, why do we need this?
Walt grinding up pharmaceuticals.
Not the every reunion.
Yeah. Is it pharmaceuticals or just coke?
Because I was pretty sure it was just coke.
Oh, he's no. He says the best thing about being a dentist
is the high grade pharmaceuticals.
Yeah. I was confused by that, too, because I was thinking it was coke.
And I was like, I don't know what that is, actually. Yeah.
And then the grandparents and the cult.
Yeah. And the great hats.
Let's talk about the great hats.
I mean, it's a lodge and every good lodge has hats.
That's what it says to it.
Peggy Sue, right? It's something along those lines.
But as somebody who's been involved in lodge functions, they have hats.
I love that their activities were like, let's teleport
a young woman back to the future and then we'll play cards. Yeah.
We haven't done this in like 20, 30 years.
Let's just send her back in time or forward in time and, you know,
then play cards.
She disappears from kidnapping and they're like, the girl's gone.
Get the cards.
That's the quickest Stockholm syndrome ever, because he kidnaps her.
They have about five minute little like argument and tussle in the greenhouse.
Then they get down to business.
And then you get Helen Hunt.
Then you get Helen Hunt.
They did get down to business in the rain. Yeah.
It was like a greenhouse. I think they had some cover. Yeah.
And I think they went outside of the greenhouse.
Like, yeah, he runs after her. It was a little sloppy. Yeah.
A little sloppy, floppy.
Wait, but that was the first time, too.
Yes. Remember, they were waiting till marriage.
That's right. Now, but it wasn't her first time.
Oh, it by Wang.
I have the voice that was born for this.
Yeah. Yours is perfect.
I don't really have much else to say about this movie unless you want to get
into a weird like time travel physics and how this they're dumb.
But I'm not.
I don't think Nick. I don't think Peter cares.
Not enough. Not enough for me to edit this.
We've already talked about age of consent laws. So.
Although probably because it was all just a faint and then a wake up,
it was probably just a dream.
Like, let's be real. Like, it wasn't a real.
There was the dedication in the.
Bucs. That's right.
The book. Yeah.
But even if it is, even if she thinks it's real, she wants to go back
to the future to be with her kids, but she's already broken up with.
Nicholas Cage. Right.
And they don't sleep together, which means she doesn't have kids in the future.
I think she hadn't thought it through.
No, I was going to say back to the future hadn't come out yet,
so she wouldn't have known how time travel works.
That's true. That's a good point.
But it is also true that like they didn't go very hard
into like making any plausible reason of how she could have ended up going back.
She just literally fainted from stress, which if that's if it's
as easy as that, we're all in trouble.
Well, unless it's unique to her, she could have just a special fainting powers.
OK, that's good.
She's like a fainting goat.
But instead of making a cool noise, she just goes back to when she was 18.
Isn't this essentially what Moira McTaggart
powers turned out to be in the new X-Men run?
Pretty much. Yeah.
Just dies and regains consciousness from birth again
and gets to relive her life, make new choices.
Whoa. That's a cool power.
Yeah, she has a limited number of times because she knows that eventually
there will be one that will be the end of it.
So she tries to make things right for all mutants in those
limited number of lifetimes.
She has if we're a comic book podcast now, we're just going to talk about.
She also she also retains all her memories from her all her previous lives,
even in utero, like comes to consciousness as a fetus.
That's a terrifying concept.
Yeah. It has several lifetimes of memories.
It's just sitting there. Yeah.
Plotting, making little changes every time to see if she can.
It's a little tiny baby.
A little whiteboard in the uterus. Yeah.
This this joke, this joke was for me only.
Yeah, I'm going to I'm going to be Nick and I
are going to be the only ones who listen to our podcasters like great call out.
I like this. This is a conversation that could go somewhere.
It's got legs.
But yeah, that's all I got to say about it.
I guess you got there.
It's not even about that. It's about comic books.
So my final thought is,
OK, so I did try to write down quotes, but then I did not.
Fine. So I am.
It's a very Nick thing.
I do remember laughing out loud, which I don't normally do.
Like normally I laugh inside really hard and I look like I'm grouchy
on the outside when I'm thinking something's funny.
But this movie did make me laugh out loud and I do not remember why.
Good. But I do remember the Wayne quote and that was pretty good.
That was probably classic.
Best like comedic scene.
Yeah. Where she just really wants it. Yeah.
He looks so uncomfortable in that, too.
You mean in your course.
Yeah. Boy, how about that commercial, though?
Just the the crazy Charlie commercial crushing Fortune Cookies.
It's so weird and like micro racist.
Yeah, just like the micro aggression.
Yeah. And the voice.
But still, it's like he doesn't dress up.
He just does like a weird, like I think there's a sort of Chinese voice
crushing fortune cookies.
I do like the connective tissue for these is that we have two furniture salespeople.
Oh, I don't even think of that.
Nathan, Arizona and crazy Charlie.
Was that by design or it's the way that we set the bracket
was based on aggregate ratings.
And then how it all flows is just what we decide.
So circumstantial, we usually find weird circumstantial connections.
Yeah, there's there's a lot of like overlapping actors or themes
or things that just kind of like, oh, interesting.
I forgot that that is a piece of this.
Right. OK, so furniture salesmen.
Yes. So is that is that our segue?
No, because we're going to go to the Venn diagram for. Oh, yeah.
No, we're going to burn that good segue.
Now you got to do another one. Oh, so the audience can also be mean
with that conjunction.
There's no laugh. There's no laugh on here, which I'm like, oh, wait,
what are your options?
That's because I bought it for you and your jokes.
Hey.
I thought it was an audience thing.
There's applause back. It's rim shot and boo.
Dang. Wait, what's the rim shot?
Oh, that is the rim shot. OK, gotcha.
Oh, yes. So on the Venn diagram of good movie, good cage, bad movie,
bad cage, good, bad, bad, good.
Oh, this film and Nicholas Cage's performance in it.
Oh, man. And do I can I do gradations or is it just.
Oh, yeah, we always it's a little bit.
So Venn diagram, I would say for good movie, bad movie, I'd have it like
on the bad side of the axis, but not like too far down.
Like, it's not a terrible movie.
And also, I know I'm just someone's crying right now that I'm saying this.
But like I have it like a little bit down on bad movie.
And then Nicholas Cage, I'd say same,
like a little bit on like the bad part of the axis.
I'm willing to say that it's a good movie because
it's just sort of a timeless 80s sort of romp.
It's not poorly written.
It's kind of dicey in a lot of the acting, but it's entertaining.
It moves well.
I didn't have any trouble with the runtime on it.
I didn't feel like it came out at 220.
I it's a good hour and a half for me.
And well, you know, it's got some good Nicholas Cage.
He does. He does the voice that I love.
Second favorite Nicholas Cage voice.
Oh, yeah, you know, I enjoy it every time.
It's a good good for me.
I think it's a weird good for me.
Yeah, I think I turned the corner on this movie this time.
I think that I like the movie way more than the first time I watched it.
The first time I was just like, what the fuck is this thing? Yeah.
And I enjoyed it this time.
I'm going to put it into the kind of good and a good cage.
Yeah, same. I liked it more on rewatching.
And I do think the there are parts where it does kind of drag a little bit,
but I feel like the editing on this is pretty tight.
There isn't a lot of wasted time in it, especially for a movie of this time.
Where things kind of scenes tend to sit a little too long.
I think this one is cut pretty well.
I would assume so, since they cut out entire storylines.
So and I. Sorry, Dolores.
And I really do enjoy Nicolas Cage and this he's doing what he does best,
which is committing to a bit.
I put it fine movie.
Good cage.
And a vamp for a second.
Wackety, schmackety do.
So I.
I picked it up and I was like, oh, man, this looks like a classic wine cooler.
I bet Sean's bitch ass will enjoy this.
No, no, I I tried to find something that I thought you'd like.
Look at you with your thoughts and feelings.
Yeah, you know, I go out of my way to get you a sparkling rose.
I better get something good for Sean. I know, right?
Oh, it's good. I'm excited.
I've got a Rico's gift out in my car, too,
because I keep like not having it with me when I see him.
So now it's like, oh, I got to. What about Hayden's birthday gift?
Oh, that's safe at home.
What's Hayden's birthday gift?
I'm not going to put this in the podcast.
So a couple of years, like years ago, I bought him a bottle of bod black.
Oh, I do remember this.
Eventually, I'm going to expand it.
I want to get two more bottles and then I'm going to make a shadow box
with a little inset sections for the three bottles of bod body spray
and like do a felt lining around the foam that holds it and everything.
So he's got like a real classy display for bod body spray.
I think I have I teach some private students
and in middle school and high school, and I'm pretty sure that
at least one of the high school boys uses I don't know if it's bod body spray,
but it's some like probably like acts or something.
It might be acts, but it's like a thing. Yeah. Yeah.
Like, she's a boy. It is.
You don't have to shower. You don't shower.
I mean, you have to be like, let's be real.
You still have to shower.
But all the middle schools out there listening right now,
you still have to shower. Trust me. Take a shower, please. Yeah.
But no, I was just surprised that bod body spray still existed
because I remembered it from the early 2000s or whatever.
And it just being like that squirt spray bottle thing.
It's still exactly the same.
Has not changed.
Did you use it in middle school?
No, I did not. I knew one person who had used it.
I had some college friends who were the Axe body spray types, but no, no, no.
Bod users. No, I admit that the Bruce Campbell
Oh, God, old spice commercials worked on me.
So I bought the Ahoy body spray. Nice.
Do you still use the old spice?
OK, just checking.
Yeah, what's what's your scent right now?
Oh, natural. Nice.
It's the best one.
Rachel approves some doctor.
Dr. Bronner's a big jug of that.
My mother had to like deodorant crystal.
I don't know. Have you seen those?
I used to use that and it does not work.
I was going to say that sounds fucking fake as shit.
Does not work.
I think the salts are supposed to rock under your butt. Right.
It's like, OK, in theory, you rub the salts,
like get into your pores and block the.
Right. That's the theory.
But it doesn't. Yeah, it doesn't really fly like that.
I just have a weird like armpit rock. Yeah, exactly.
What's this rock?
Oh, that's the one I rub under my armpits.
Pre-workout. Yeah.
This is my post-workout rock.
Fucking crystal shit.
Quite Benjamin Franklin Gates update.
He's not stealing declarations, but he is stealing my slippers.
Yeah, I will leave the room.
I start somewhere.
I will leave the room for a second and both my slippers will be in his bed.
How are his butt worms? Better. Good.
Yeah, puppies get worms. Yeah.
I don't know. I I was.
That just reminded me of a story from childhood that my mom was like,
Oh, yeah, you know, kids get worms, too.
And like you have to like go into a dark room and shine a flashlight
and then you can see them.
It's like, pardon.
That's what you could do in that dark corner. Yeah.
Fine work. Hayden's dark corner.
It's where we deworm our friends
or at least just observe the worms. Yeah.
And I'm doing it. Oh, confirmed. You got it.
I kind of want to set up like a
a gynecologist chair in that back area with the stirrups and everything.
And then I can come in with
like blacksmith tongs and like just reach in and like grab the worm.
And one at a time. Yeah.
One at a time. Yeah, that's the way to do it.
Well, I don't trust myself to try to grab two. No, no.
Get out of this one, Sean.
Now, yeah, what's this? What's this segue into raising Arizona?
Raising Arizona.
A movie. Funny that you mentioned that.
It's the next movie we're talking about.
Where Nicolas Cage plays H.I.
McDonough, who's falls in love with Lady Cop.
Yeah, Edwina. Edwina. What a name.
Oh, yeah. They try and have kids can't have kids.
So she quits the force and they kidnap a kid.
And this movie has just the best cast.
It really does.
No one is thinking about Edwina cry.
We like my finance broke up with me.
I find that was a big.
Yeah, I love this movie.
It's super stupid and funny.
It Nicholas Cage has never been more animated than this one.
I think it's the perfect role for him comedically.
It kills me.
I think just his fucking face is that he makes it so good.
And his wild rooster hair.
I think the thing that was the big takeaway for us,
the for me, the first time we watched this movie was that talking to you guys
afterwards, you were like, it's a cartoon.
It's a cartoon movie with live action.
It was like, oh, fuck.
OK, now I get it.
And watching it the second time, I was like, yeah.
No, I mean, because, yeah, we talked about that the first time.
It's like it took me about halfway through the movie to realize
what I was watching.
This is this is Looney Tunes.
This is a cartoon like that.
I love Gail when they leave the baby on the roof and then they realize it.
And so you have to like they're just screaming and they turn around.
They're just screaming all the way back.
And I've been punching. It's just so like how many times did the baby get left?
Like that should have been a drinking game of like every time the baby's left behind.
Oh, not that much drinking then, I guess.
Depends on what you're drinking.
Yeah, one.
Got to knock the entire bottle back.
As soon as drinking most of a bottle of 151 in a night, I would not recommend it.
OK, I think the only times I've drank it, I ended up pulling the shower,
or the towel rack off of my girlfriend's bathroom wall.
But it's because you wanted to do something with it.
Oh, no, I just lost my balance while I was peeing.
And I grabbed the towel rack and pulled that off.
And then I peed on everything.
This is a cautionary tale.
Luckily, there were towels at hand for any children listening.
Don't drink one. Don't drink one.
But when the towels ones that you had already peed on are not at that point,
they were behind me until thank until.
I do love like he is so there's no at least like the way that I was.
There's no point in the movie where his character is trying to be funny.
He's like so deeply sincere and earnest
and like just becomes like so ridiculous through that wonderful.
Kind of like just it's just like that straight man.
He's kind of the straight man in this.
Like Edwina is the crazy one.
She's also like that.
I mean, she's never like trying to crack a joke or even slightly
anything other than just deeply earnest.
Well, it's a Cohen brothers.
So it's that largely like slice of life comedy of errors type situation.
Yeah. We're like no one realizes there in a comedy in this comedy. Right.
Less murder in this one than like Fargo.
Yes. That's a very murdery movie.
I had to explain some murders.
I do a lot.
I do explain to someone at Christmas dinner that like the movie Fargo
and the show Fargo aren't based on like real stories.
They thought we.
This is Christmas dinner.
Come on. Yeah.
It's like I can't really set it, but someone's like, you know, well,
you know, these are all real murders.
I'm like, no, they're not.
But it says they are.
I'm like, yeah, but they're not like the Cohen brothers have like said several
times, like we don't know why people think this is a real story.
Like maybe because you start your movie with based on real events.
Which really all you need is to protect the like the living.
All you really need for that is like there were two people once.
Yeah. And then there was one person.
North Dakota has seen a murder.
So Alex, you had not seen raising Arizona.
No, I hadn't.
And I know I've heard about it and I think I've had the chance to see it
and just, you know, possibly on planes or, you know, like it's.
But I just have never thought about it.
And I actually think I get it confused with them.
Isn't there another like people kidnap a kid
that has like Goldie Hawn in it?
Yeah, baby. Oh, no, Goldie.
Is this sound familiar at all? OK.
So Goldie Hawn like gets amnesia.
I think she's like a wealthy person that falls off a boat
and she gets found by a guy who needs like a mom for a bunch of kids that he has.
And so he like kidnaps her and she thinks that this is her.
It's a totally different story. I'm not realizing, but that is why.
You guys have not heard of this movie.
I think it's called like Overboard or.
Oh, never mind. Yeah.
You know what I'm talking about, right?
I know it because Joe, my girlfriend, watches it all the time. OK.
So maybe not all the time, but she's definitely seen it.
This is a thing, right? I'm assuming.
So somehow I sort of like overlap those movies and thought
because I have seen Overboard and I somehow thought, I don't know why,
because clearly this is a completely different movie.
I had not seen it to answer your question.
Have you ever seen Splash? Yes. OK.
Another is that another Amnesia movie?
No, but it's got a mermaid and there's water involved.
Yeah, I have seen that.
OK, what other movies can we remember that exists?
What other movies are there?
But what is a movie?
I did like love this movie so much, and I think part of it is.
Well, I was surprised because I didn't know anything about it
and like all the different people that showed up like John Goodman
and like, you know, just like different characters that I was like,
what are you doing in this movie?
And then he's like climbing out of the mud like a weird primordial creature.
And he's also like the most evil character in the movie,
I feel like is kind of John Goodman or not evil, but he's like the most sinister.
Yeah, he does sinister really well.
He really does. And that was awesome.
But fight in the trailer.
The two big guys in the small space fight. Yeah.
But I just like loved that everybody.
Everyone had all these like not like totally sinister intentions,
but some people did.
But then in the end, everyone was just like totally like Gaga over the baby,
which I thought was so funny, including especially the two dudes.
I forgot the other guy that's
moving for safe. Yeah.
Like that they're just like emotionally wrecked by the baby in the end.
And like originally they were going to turn it in for the ransom, right?
They're like, we're keeping him forever or whatever.
Like they just like lost it within 15 minutes.
Yeah, probably Nathan Jr.
is a great little baby, the best baby.
I mean, he was the most cheerful baby I've ever seen.
So rewatching it this time,
their crime of passion quickly turned into like a premeditated thing
because there's the announcement of the Arizona like quints.
But by the time they get around to kidnapping them, they're toddlers.
They're crawling. Oh, good point.
That's a really important factor, right?
Yeah, they are mobile.
Nine months, 10 months, something like that.
It's like you took your time.
Yeah, they took their time, which I don't think you're supposed to think about.
But the other thought that goes there, if it's an immediate thing, is
Mrs. Arizona is like bottom half is just gone.
Oh, from giving birth to five babies.
Five babies the size of like
those are big toddlers. Yeah, that's true. Good point.
I mean, she walked up those stairs.
Robotic spider legs is all she has left.
That's probably like Darth Maul.
Like Darth Maul. Yeah.
Starting nerdy step so yeah. Yeah.
God, that's that might actually be true.
I mean, we talked about two Marvel movies.
Well, Disney movies.
Ghost Rider and Ghost Rider, too.
Spirit of Vengeance.
Yeah, those are Marvel.
Oh, I thought you were talking about on this episode.
No, we could talk about those if you'd like.
Yeah, you go back to what are what are all the movies that there are.
I mean, Ghost Rider does reference this movie in it.
Does it when he first ghost writers out, he's going through the desert.
Yeah, when Leonard Smalls is driving through and he shoots the
the lizard and Ghost Rider like burns a guana.
That's right.
Man, let's talk about Leonard Smalls for a second.
Yes. What a great character.
I love just his inclusion in this because he has almost no point.
It's like he's here as like a bounty hunter to find the babies.
He got brought into the purpose.
He got brought in to find the escaped convicts right first.
Yeah. Yeah. Is that right?
And then how did he get on the babies?
I don't know. Easy money. Baby money.
No, I think he was looking for the baby before he was
before he approached Leonard or Nathan, Arizona.
Yeah. Well, Nathan, Arizona hadn't put out the bounty yet.
But like, hold on.
Let's stop. Watch the movie and get this.
Yeah, all right.
Yeah, it doesn't have a lot to say, but sure.
Causes a lot of trouble.
Yeah. And going out with a grenade
on his best is just terrific.
I like how he's trying to like gently put both shotguns down before he goes.
So the fingers are stuck in the trigger guards
and he doesn't have like one hand to get the other one out.
So he's just like, hello.
Trying to little flippy hands to get him out.
And I liked is it H.I. Yeah.
He's like, quiet apology as he's watching an avid.
I'm sorry. So cute.
He's like a little sensitive soul.
He really is.
I think my favorite I know this is not the most important part of the movie,
but the thing that made me laugh the hardest was the old man in the bank.
He's like, which is it?
Like, are we laying down or are we holding still?
I think. And then when there he's like, where's the tellers?
And they're like, we're here.
Like, it's just the whole thing like was so badly planned.
And he's like, OK, we're about to start this robbery.
You know, like they just every step of that robbery was so fucking funny.
Like, do you want us to freeze or do you want us to lay down?
Because we lay down because if we freeze, we can lay down.
But if we lay down, we're in motion.
We're in motion. So good.
I know that whole scene was like, was my favorite, I think.
Oh, the chase scene when he like robs the.
Oh, with the guy with the Magnum gun or whatever.
Yeah. When he robs the store for the the diapers.
Yeah. Diapers and everything in the cash register.
And then that prolonged chase sequence where the cops just show up shooting.
Yeah, that was amazing. And continue in the grocery store.
Just like and then the the dogs are what get me in the chase.
And it's like you've got this whole dog chase going on as well.
And now you've just got bystanders getting chased by dogs.
Yeah. Those dogs are having a great time.
And what a great time.
I just like how he's addicted to like robbing convenience stores.
Start driving by convenience stores that aren't even on the way home.
You all got to wait. Well, right.
I mean, a great white jag.
Great. Everyone's got their great white jag.
I absolutely love this movie. It's so much fun.
Yeah, I agree. It's a highly entertaining and engaging.
Easy to watch.
So for you guys on a rewatch, was there any, you know, discovery?
Was there anything that came out of this that you missed or just found funnier or?
You know, it's really hard to answer that question because it's been a year.
I know, right?
But I did enjoy it.
I didn't I didn't feel less inclined to laugh.
I probably enjoyed it more going back to like being in the proper headspace
for what I was about to watch.
Well, yeah. Last year, when you watched it, you were like half of the movie.
You were frustrated by it.
And then you were like, oh, wait, I understand it. OK, I get it.
So that was a lot. Now you're just on board. Yeah.
Yeah, I love I just imagined like an actual review and quotes
like on the trailer that's like I was less inclined
till wait less inclined to not laugh.
You were not. I was not less inclined to laugh on the second viewing.
It's like that's the full quote.
That's a pretty good review.
Actually, put that in fucking light.
You can put anything I say on a marquee and it's just gold.
It's best if it's like an audio marquee.
So it's like his voice.
Yeah, there's just a speaker out on the corner of a building
and you have to hear me.
But then it's got like subtitles because this is Washington
and we have to have subtitles for the hearing impaired.
Yeah. Respect that. Yeah. Yeah.
I wish they could feel my voice the way everybody else has to hear it.
But we can really base it up. Yeah.
Base it up.
I think that's actually the opposite of the problem.
Like it just has to be some kind of piercing note
or maybe marbles.
Just leave marbles on a sidewalk.
Let the deaf people walk across it and they'll understand
the trials and tribulations that everybody else has to endure.
Well put of my audio.
Now we're going to put that as our tagline.
Yeah, that'll reel them in for sure.
Yeah. Hey, deaf people, come listen to this podcast.
Step on these marbles.
You get the vibe.
Hey, actually, we probably should be providing
a full transcription of our podcast.
We do. What deaf people can read what I say.
Yeah, I'm sorry, deaf people.
I've probably said a lot of terrible things.
Yeah, there's always a transfer.
Oh, where do I get that?
But and this is episode 41. You're just learning about.
I didn't know a lot of stuff that I do that they don't know.
We don't want to know how the sausage can I comment on the transcription?
No, it's I mean, it's an AI generated thing that I just click a button for it.
I don't try hard.
All right, deaf people.
So anything that's like horribly like abhorrent that we've said, the AI said it.
Yeah, but everything that's really horny definitely said.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
We take credit for that. Yeah. Yeah.
So good cage, good movie, bad cage, bad movie, good, bad, bad, good.
I would say, OK, good cage.
Oh, yeah. Good cage. Good movie is my take.
Same. Definitely enjoyed this way more on my second time in a year and a half.
Podcast life. Yeah.
My real life podcast.
Well, you could remember that wife and baby.
Yeah, sorry.
I love this movie. It's a lot of fun.
It's a good movie. It's a good cage.
It's top notch. Yeah.
He's so charming and fun and this and I love everything about it.
Oh, yeah. The music.
I guess we didn't really talk too much about that, but yeah, music's great.
I didn't even notice the music.
I got to watch it again. Yeah.
Watch it again. The music, I think, really, really fills it out.
And it's all like just a random yodeling cowboy kind of sound.
It's good. But it fits. Yeah.
So, yeah, the big decision now.
This is going to be a tough one. Clearly, it's super tough.
And Alex, unfortunately, your vote doesn't matter,
but you do get to still say it on microphone.
Oh, oh, I get to vote.
But just it's sort of like a honorary vote. Yeah.
OK, it's really so the Internet knows your opinion.
OK, which is something I deeply invested in.
At you. Great.
OK, and I'll just like spell out my emails.
Feel good. Right to me.
And we'll start a little debate.
I would vote strongly for raising Arizona,
but I'm not going to try to financially influence anyone else here.
Now, that was my vote.
I'm going to need financial influence.
Who's going to change? I have a grease that palm.
OK, all right. You check later.
Excellent. We need that big Cohen money.
Yeah, I gladly accept blank checks anytime.
This is a raising Arizona for me, for sure.
It's I mean, kind of a no brainer this time.
Well, this is we're in comedy, right? Yeah.
This is tough guy, actually.
He's a criminal. He is a criminal.
No, I mean, we've talked before that his comedies aren't the most comedic.
Yeah, I don't know if the roles that he gets for comedies a lot
in his earlier career really like highlighted his ability.
Yeah. As well as this or say some of his
more recent works like Renfield being an action comedy or unbearable weight.
Wait, did you vote, Peter?
It doesn't matter.
You're only a little opinion.
We don't we don't count.
I'm only a tiebreaker.
Wait, that's all I was going to say.
Wait, so and has it been a controversial decision in other only rounds?
No, two times.
I've had to be a tiebreaker.
No, I came I came around on Nick's reasoning for Army of One.
No, no, I had to tiebreak another one.
And the one you had to tiebreak was Primal versus.
And then recently there was another one.
What's that? I've already forgotten.
It was in season two.
So I don't remember.
OK, here's a question based on all of the movies you viewed.
If I'm going to do another Nicolas Cage movie sometime in the next two weeks,
what would you recommend?
I have any does not become.
So what kind of vibe do you want?
I think I'd go I'd be interested in a more serious Nicolas Cage vibe.
But it doesn't have to be action, but maybe more like or could be.
OK, well, one person gets to say pig and then two other people
have to choose other movies.
OK, it's a fun big pig.
I will say there's a movie called Joe Joe that is very well done.
OK, and it's a very thoughtful performance and it's a it's a good movie.
OK, so pig Joe, is this all going to be one syllable movie titles?
We'll find out. Yeah.
Doesn't have to be the bringing out the dead.
Oh, good call. Bringing out the dead. OK.
That's that's the Scorsese and it's it's a very good.
Yeah. OK, great.
Don't watch it if you're like upset about anything.
Like I'm good.
Watch it. We're in a pretty neutral.
Yeah, is it? Yeah.
He's a is it a zombie thing?
No, he's a paramedic.
Oh, I think all three of those movies are kind of on 90s New York. OK.
They could be. You could you could have a reaction to either of those movies.
OK, if you want to see a film that he got this role
because of Peggy's, you got married Moonstruck.
Oh, I see Moonstruck.
Yeah, I forgot he was in that.
We share very outlandish like, you know, my hand.
My wife. Yeah, share wanted him for this movie after Peggy's
got married because she was like, we need somebody who can play crazy
and Nicholas Cage is fucking insane. Yeah.
They had screen tested a bunch of people and she was like, no, no, no.
Get that guy. She's going to walk.
They like higher than Cage. Yeah.
OK, I'll watch that again at some point, too.
I just I totally forgot he was in it.
There's a whole racket on our website. Yeah.
That fun is one of my favorite
top level domain names.
Why the fuck not?
Got fun. Yeah.
Great. Let's everybody know what we're all about.
Yeah. Yeah.
Dot funny. There's no question.
No question. Gooning and that fun.
No, we're not going.
We're not going to say that.
Stop. Fuck you.
Hey, man, I'm not the one who named our podcast network.
I blame Sean for that one.
It was it was a different time. Yeah.
Yeah. Different simpler.
Like I was season one, like way back. Yeah.
Alex does have to go soon.
So do you have anything you want to plug or share with our audience?
Oh, OK, I could. Yeah, it's great.
OK, well, let's see.
If you like experimental viola chamber pot music, then
you could check out my band.
It's called Led to see L.E.D. T.O.S.E.A.
All those words could be spelled multiple ways.
So it's great for radio.
Like Sean. It's like Sean.
But yeah, I play around town sometimes.
And I'd love to see you at a show or you can check out my band cam.
What is chamber pot music?
Because I know you say chamber pot.
That's what you said. That's what I heard. Oh, fuck. OK.
I have a I'm kind of like I used to have a tongue ring.
And I think that has forever
caused me to have some weird speech impediment. OK.
But what I meant to say was chamber pop music.
But I'm now curious.
I might try to write my next song in the style of chamber pot music,
because that actually sounds awesome.
Old timey poo that you throw out the window.
It's like there's a lot of like kind of subtle splashing or just like,
I don't know. Well, I'll see what happens with it. But yeah, I like subtle splashing.
It's going to be my next album. Yeah.
The subtle splashing.
Well, fuck. Thank you all for listening.
Thanks for being here, Alex. Thank you very much.
Thank you for having me. This was so fun. Yeah.
It's a good entry into the world of the podcast.
So thank you. Excellent.
Now you can go on to be in a good podcast.
No, I don't think that's a good choice for me.
Now stick with us. This is my level right here.
Yeah. Stick in the chamber pot better.
We are on social media at Cage,
Match, Pod or Cage underscore match underscore pod.
If you want to find us, we're also on Patreon at Cage Match.
And special thanks to our Sparkle buddies, Josh, Sean, Josie, Rico,
Matt and Adam and our cage dancers, Ira, John, Freeman and Lance.
Awesome. Yeah.
Hey, get that ruler out, too.
Oh, yeah.
Measure the Squatch.
Wow. That was not as much growth as I expected.
Well, it's meant to grow over 72 hours.
Hey, the water is cold.
Yeah, be kind, Alex.
I'm sorry. I'm just calling it like I see it.
It's actually smaller than when it was in.
I don't think so.
Get the ruler.
I need the facts.
It depends on if you look from the side.
It looks bigger from the top. It definitely looks smaller.
Yeah, straight on. It just looks like all.
Bye bye.
Wait, yes. Oh, it was precise.
You measure.
You knew it was going to be slimy.
I didn't.
Have you never grown one of these before?
Oh, it is a little tiny bit bigger.
Oh, God, it's got a weird gel around it.
Wow. This is a fun experiment.
Yeah, kind of.
Does it say how long are you supposed to leave it in there?
Three days. Oh, OK.
Yeah. So this is just the beginning of it.
So it's like, do you?
All right.
Who? Bye bye.
Bye bye.
Or if you want to be extra wrong, S.H.O.N.
I do like to be extra wrong sometimes.
It really helps when you have people who are touchy about the spelling of their name.
Yeah.
I like when someone spells it really weird and really off.
Yeah. Like with a P.H.
Chiffon.
Chavon. What's up, Chiffon?
That's all I'm going to call you now.
Chiffon or cow. Yeah, Chiffon.
Nipples on the batsuit dot com.
Just you.
You re-upped. I re-upped.
I'm never getting rid of that.
No, you should keep that for you.
You're going to use that for anything specific or.
I've owned it for over 20 years now.
It's just it's just there.
This sometime the iron is going to be hot.
Yeah. Time to strike. Yeah.
I think that moment. Batman.
Passed when they had nipples on the bat suit.
Yeah, they're never going to do that again.
Like that was a protest site at first.
Yeah. I see. Bring them back.
Right. Put more nips on those suits.
I require anatomically correct bat suits.
Why don't you change get a site that's no nipples on the bat suit?
A new protest site.
There aren't enough nipples in the Batman movies.
That's true. Real or otherwise.
They're pretty pretty nipple free. Yeah.
Disappointing.
Something I hadn't thought about before, but you're absolutely right.
Yeah. The Bane could have used like nine nipples.
Like every time he venoms up more nipples, just pop out all over him.
Like not muscles, but he nips out a dog.
He's more nipple than man.
You were raised in the nipples.
I don't remember that quote.
I'm not going to try to remember that movie.
I was born from nipples. There you go.