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Oh, God. Oh, my God.

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Yeah, if I pull my wiener out, it's a new episode.

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And we're already on the third episode this minute.

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Double duck it. Yeah. Oh, perfect.

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Welcome back to Cage Match, a roundabout way of meeting Nicolas Cage.

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I'm your host, Sean, here with my co-host Nick and our producer Peter.

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Hello. And this week we are discussing the movie Kick Ass.

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Welcome back, Eric.

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I believe it's actually kick ass, kick ass, kick ass kick ass kick ass.

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Ass kick.

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It doesn't make sense to know.

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I thought that was a solid joke.

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That was a good one. It's a very good dad joke, at least.

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He was proud of himself.

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And that's what's important with dad jokes.

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Also the mustache. Great. Great. Dad's dash.

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Why is his name Big Daddy?

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Oh, I wouldn't.

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I can't figure that out.

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If you have a little girl sidekick, like who is the sidekick in this situation, too?

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I mean, it was Hit Girl.

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Big Big Daddy is the sidekick.

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Yeah. Well, he's like a mentor, right?

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I mean, like he's he's trying to get around. He's growing.

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Yes, exactly.

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He's Big Daddy's grooming.

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I mean, at least unlike the last time we watched Nicolas Cage get called daddy,

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it wasn't with weird sexual energy.

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When was the last time you got called daddy?

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Fucking matchstick man.

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Oh, well.

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Daddy.

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Was that the the con the con man movie?

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Yeah. OK, gotcha.

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So, Eric, you had seen Kick Ass before.

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Right. I had seen Kick Ass before.

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And maybe like you guys, you remember enjoying it more.

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When when did this come out? 2010.

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See, that makes sense.

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I would have enjoyed this more in 2010.

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I didn't do it more in 2010.

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I think I was on the opposite side of it.

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In 2010, I thought it was too much of a try hard movie.

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And I was like, I was too cool for it.

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I actually have a little anecdote about seeing this movie

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because I loved the comic when it first came out.

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Mark Millar, John Romita, Jr.

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But the comic shop I used to shop at comic outpost rest in peace

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was having a crappy superhero like costume contest to get early screening tickets.

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So my buddy Justin and I decided we were going to like dress up

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as like shitty superheroes.

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The only rule is your costume had to cost less than twenty dollars.

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So I took my old wetsuit that didn't fit me anymore,

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made a mask out of a scarf, put on like a Russian furry hat that I had.

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And I just cut out like a Safeway paper bag and slapped a D on the front of it.

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I was D bag. No words. And I won.

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Oh, good. Justin was my sidekick plaid lad.

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He just put on a bunch of plaid.

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But my battle cry was I'm going to punch you in the dick.

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And then the owner of the comic outpost

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and later that night went home, got into a fight with his wife

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and told her in the day told her I'm going to punch you in the dick.

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And she's like, where do you learn this?

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And he proudly said D bag.

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And then I got to see kick ass a week early in theaters.

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That's the best anecdote that you've ever told.

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That's really like that. That's better than this movie.

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I had never seen this movie and I actually really enjoyed it.

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I mean, I agree.

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I think it is kind of a try hard of that era, but it was a lot of fun.

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I mean, all it was missing was a fucking what's a serial eaten comedian

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who is awful and somehow still has a career.

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I think his name is Carrot Top.

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No, Carrot Top is amazing.

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Fucking shut up.

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I don't know. He always like Count Chocula made a thing.

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He's like, oh, you feel.

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I don't know. What are you talking about?

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Is this Cheddar Goblin?

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No, Cheddar Goblin is cool, though.

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I miss Cheddar Goblin.

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We all miss. I'm going to remember his name like halfway through this episode.

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And I'll tell you that. Shout it out.

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Yeah. Everyone shut the fuck up.

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Oh, wake your baby upstairs.

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Just good.

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Shouting this shitty comedian's name.

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Demetri Martin.

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Might be it. No, no.

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I like Demetri Martin.

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Is there a Dante guy, something Dante?

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Tell me about this movie.

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Well, again, I feel like for me who saw it

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or remember seeing it back in the day,

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I recall just like the best parts of like Nick Cage, like just being more prominent.

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I thought that was like more of the film and that and I wish it was more of the film.

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Same. I remember him having a much bigger role in this movie than he does.

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Yeah. So when I when I rewatched, it was like it took a really long time

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until he like jumped in there at all.

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That first scene that's that he's in there is is tremendous.

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I love it. Oh, where he shoots his daughter, where he shoots his daughter.

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Yeah. As a father of of a daughter, not much younger than than her.

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I don't know. Fantasy's have been had.

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That would be fun for the whole family. Yeah.

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Mostly you therapeutic.

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He looks like he's having a blast.

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So the cast of this one.

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So you've got Aaron Johnson, who I don't know if he did anything

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other than the two kick ass movies.

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He's he was Quicksilver in the age of Ultron.

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That's right. So he's Dave and also kick ass kick ass.

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Christopher Mintz, plus who everyone thinks that I look like him

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is Chris D'Amico and or Red Mist.

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Mark Strong is his dad, Frank D'Amico and Chloe Grace

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Moretz is Mindy McCready slash Hit Girl.

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And then Nick Cage is Big Bang Daddy.

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Rick Gotter. Daddy.

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Nick Cage did have a name in this, didn't he?

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Well, yeah, he's a there was so much.

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McCready. Oh, OK.

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Damon. OK, he did say that.

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Marcus most importantly.

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Yeah, Marcus is the good cop.

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Yeah, most importantly, the big tatter.

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The biggest daddy kick ass young.

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What we're doing, we're doing a high school movie.

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He wants to what superhero fantasy.

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He wants to be a vigilante.

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Somebody needs to do something.

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His friends talk him out of it.

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They say you would get your ass kicked.

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You would die. And what he tries to help somebody

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and he gets his ass kicked and he almost dies.

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It's stabbed and hit by a car. Yeah. Yeah. But.

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Stop going down that alley.

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Stop going down that one specific alley where there's two guys

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always fucking jumpy.

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But it's the shortcut.

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That's where what that's probably where like the fake kick ass got killed to.

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It's the same alley.

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That is crime alley.

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That's where fucking Batman's parents die.

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Oh, man. Oh, it's a bunch of stray pearls everywhere.

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So what he gets the he gets the nerve damage so that he is.

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I don't know.

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He can handle more.

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He can take more hits and he gets a metal implant.

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So so apparently could take some more damage, too.

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But still, he gets his ass kicked like a lot.

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You know, knowing old people who have fake hips, those things are not that sturdy.

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No, I don't think they're improvements usually.

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You're usually worse off.

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Yeah. So I guess my favorite.

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OK, this does my favorite part is, yeah.

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So after he gets mugged and gets a superpowers

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superpowers of being a dude who got mugged, a dude that got mugged.

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What? He can just get his ass kicked harder.

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The whole high school, because he was they think he was sexually assaulted.

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Think that he's gay now.

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Oh, yeah. Which is which is pretty generous of them.

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What his new best friend, Katie, comes up, not because she is worried about him

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because she thinks that he was just sexually assaulted and beat up in the street

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and left naked and for dead.

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And I was really she's excited to have a gay friend

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and has always wanted a gay friend ever since she was a child.

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I was waiting for the shoe to drop that she had other gay friends

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who just kept turning out to like be straight.

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And she was worried that she was turning all the gay men straight.

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And it's her own superpower. Yeah.

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So it's like really tearing her apart.

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It's the opposite of my superpower.

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I've always wanted a gay friend, but

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this piss is too good and it keeps just driving the men wild.

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They got all this milkshake.

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That's what that's what they should have gone with. Yeah.

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Oh, you turn you turn me straight.

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What am I supposed to do? We have to check.

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I can't confirm that I'm straight.

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Well, turns out I am. Yeah.

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Oh, so what Dave's been going, going, going.

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Dave starts going on vigilante justice missions or what?

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Just one via my space. OK, wait.

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No. So he has a my space account.

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But really. OK, so who does he go and talk to for Katie?

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Right. Oh, Raul. Raul. Raul. Raul. Raul. Raul.

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Oh, right.

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And were they were they an item?

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Ra's so cool.

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You know, it never clarifies like it really seems like it's just a hardcore

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drug dealer or something.

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I don't understand why they were hiding.

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She volunteers at the needle bank.

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Yeah. Suicide hotline and that kind of stuff.

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And Katie got in deep like she was fucking that dude. Yeah.

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So what? Up to this point, Dave has been, you know, what?

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Slap it. Slap in people in the street.

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Oh, yeah. Stuff like that.

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With his baton with it with his baton. Yeah.

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My favorite line from this film is like right before he gets into his

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like second major fight is kick ass.

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The one that makes him famous is he's trying to save a cat

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and just and right before he falls like that's how it happened.

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Yeah. Right before he falls off a billboard thing, he's just like,

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fuck you, Mr. Bidey.

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I love that the cat's name is Mr. Bidey, though.

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That's good. Why would you even go looking for that cat?

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Fuck that cat. That's what made him a hero.

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He's going to go save Mr. Bidey.

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Nobody else would help Mr. Bidey.

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They say fuck that cat. Yep.

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Turns out Mr. Bidey didn't deserve it.

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What? So Dave goes and confronts Razul in his like crime gang.

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Who? Kade is pretty sure that's who is still still weird that they that they hung out.

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I don't I don't know how they got involved.

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Like he sounded just like a junkie off the street, like he was in

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and slipped in the bushes or something like that, but he was moving weight.

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He worked for D'Amico.

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He worked for D'Amico. He was a made man.

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He had a doorman with a gun. Yeah.

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Like in their shitty.

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Like what is this guy doing in the needle exchange?

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He's giving them out with samples.

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He's there. He confronts Razul, says, you know, leave Katie alone

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and then tases Razul in the face. Face tases him.

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Yeah. And then that's a fucking you're starting a fight.

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Yeah. And then he gets like held down

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and Razul gets out the big knife

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and then gets stabbed through with this shitty CG sword.

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Yeah. But then we get the best scene in the film.

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Absolutely. Of Hit Girl just murdering three gang bangers

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and then killing a sex worker and a just guy who was just doing nothing.

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She she told me she was a sex worker.

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Are you just making assumptions now? Yes, I am actually.

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At least the woman did like pull like smash a bottle and pull a bottle.

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Yeah, I think the guy on meth just wanted to continue out of the bathroom

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and was like, oh, no, no.

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The meth guy was just there.

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There was another guy in the bathroom who just walked out.

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Oh, you're talking about the only white guy in the guy came out of the bathroom

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was also white, I think.

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He pulled a knife. He pulled a butterfly.

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You think just the white guy lived?

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Is what you think? No, he didn't. OK.

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No one lived. I think that the lady would have been OK, but she like

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she pulled a bottle. She was like, come at me.

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She got aggressive. Yeah, she did.

247
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You should have just begged.

248
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You beg for your life in that situation.

249
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I don't care how big I don't care how big a bodyguard you are

250
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or how big your gun is.

251
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If I saw two like bloody katana blades come through a door, I'm like,

252
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not paid enough for this. I just walk away and come back tomorrow.

253
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And that that woman, she watches all these guys get murdered,

254
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like in front of her, and they fought hard.

255
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And she's like, all right, like now you're now you're in for it.

256
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Yeah. Heineken bottle.

257
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But yeah, it was terrific.

258
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Seen what that was like Heineken.

259
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Flowy Grace Mertz is a big debut right there.

260
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I mean, she really was made a giant name for herself.

261
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Just murdering people.

262
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The insane cunt, the graphic violence and language

263
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was so shocking that it was just fun, fun for the family,

264
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for their family.

265
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I mean, she really kind of is the main character of the story.

266
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She's the one who has kind of the arc, like loses her father, gets revenge

267
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in the story that you wanted to follow.

268
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And that one random.

269
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Sorry, it was Dan Cook.

270
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What do you mean?

271
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Uh, Dan Cook was the shitty comedian

272
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that I was thinking would fit perfect in this movie.

273
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They absolutely didn't cook in cereal.

274
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Yeah. Didn't he do a thing where you're like, I don't know.

275
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I don't like his comedy.

276
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So like, I only kind of remember from college, like people.

277
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And he's like, oh, I love you, people.

278
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They're all.

279
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You know, I. OK, I hear it now.

280
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I totally I knew it was going to be named Cook,

281
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but I wanted to see if he'd find it.

282
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We got there.

283
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I had to go back through waiting.

284
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I knew he was in waiting and I had to work through that one.

285
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You had been a little tuned out for a while.

286
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Also, Luis Guzman was in waiting.

287
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Yeah, it's true.

288
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Oh, man, I love it when Luis Guzman shows up.

289
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Oh, he's don't.

290
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You don't. You know, Peter hates Luis Guzman performing in a movie.

291
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You haven't listened to our last episode.

292
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Yeah. Fucking Luis Guzman.

293
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What?

294
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I was talking about like kick ass.

295
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Just killed people. Yeah.

296
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Nick Cage in this is the best part of this film.

297
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He's not in it a lot, but he is the best.

298
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No, he's got like he got to do whatever he wanted.

299
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Yeah. It's like you get to be you got like five scenes.

300
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It's just like just ham it up.

301
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Eat, chew scenery.

302
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Like, I don't think anybody asked him to do Adam West.

303
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Why did he have kind of the Batman costume?

304
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Like, I don't know.

305
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I love it. I love how when they're interrogating that guy is like, no,

306
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but it's not Batman.

307
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I never said Batman is like Batman.

308
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Like him really similar.

309
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But we're not talking about Batman.

310
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And then the boss just goes, OK, so then Superman.

311
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No, it was Batman. It wasn't bad.

312
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I never said Batman.

313
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I loved it. I loved the detail with the mustache, the dustache.

314
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That's a good way to like disguise your personality.

315
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If the only thing that's going to be seen on your face is like your mouth area.

316
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But so and you're committed to having a mustache.

317
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He has distinctive facial hair. He has the proper like dad sash

318
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just like bushy just above the lip.

319
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But when he goes into superhero mode, he puts on like fake

320
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spirit gummed Fumanchu attachments.

321
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Oh, wow. Yeah.

322
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So and like we get to put it on part of the movie.

323
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And it made me think of this really shitty 90s like pornography TV,

324
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like superhero TV show Night Man,

325
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who was like a jazz musician by day and was a superhero by night.

326
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But his costume had a wig on it so people wouldn't recognize his hair. Sorry.

327
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He must have been a shitty jazz musician if he had to play jazz during the day.

328
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They like only good jazz musicians at night.

329
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So he's he's like daytime like he's the guy that does the intros on.

330
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He's just like,

331
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well, hey, everybody.

332
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Welcome back to my NPR show where I talk about the plants I'm growing.

333
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Exactly. Yeah.

334
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So I did it. I did.

335
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I did like the send five dollars, the mustache detail.

336
00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:25,780
It is valuable.

337
00:15:25,780 --> 00:15:27,380
I also didn't notice the mustache.

338
00:15:27,380 --> 00:15:30,860
The only time in a superhero movie where we see someone apply the eye black.

339
00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:32,620
Oh, yeah. Yeah.

340
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What? So I don't much.

341
00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:39,460
I mean, OK, what guy, guy that Peter that people think looks like Chris

342
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for Mitzvah, I think that's unfortunate that they make that red mist.

343
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That they say that.

344
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I think you look so much like that other guy.

345
00:15:47,140 --> 00:15:49,400
I've absolutely also looks like Chris from Mitzvah.

346
00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:51,580
Wait, which one are you talking about, Tim Curry?

347
00:15:51,580 --> 00:15:53,680
Are you talking about?

348
00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:55,380
Oh, you're talking about Charlie Kaufman.

349
00:15:55,380 --> 00:15:58,380
But I'm not talking about Charlie Kaufman.

350
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He's going to find it.

351
00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,660
You're talking about Donald Kaufman. I get it. Yeah.

352
00:16:01,660 --> 00:16:02,760
No, that's me.

353
00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:07,900
What he comes in and as as red mist, I really didn't like him in the whole movie.

354
00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:09,720
No, well, he's kind of a cunt.

355
00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,900
He is. And he was he was a perfect.

356
00:16:12,940 --> 00:16:14,260
He was a perfect McLovin.

357
00:16:14,260 --> 00:16:15,860
Oh, yeah. Absolutely.

358
00:16:15,860 --> 00:16:18,680
Yeah. He did great role models.

359
00:16:19,180 --> 00:16:20,640
I don't know. Christopher Mitzvah.

360
00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:24,780
Yeah. But other than that, yeah, I thought I didn't like him.

361
00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,980
And I didn't like scenes with him in there.

362
00:16:28,340 --> 00:16:31,480
He was a character with a face that was perfect for punching.

363
00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,180
And he got very little punches to the face.

364
00:16:34,180 --> 00:16:35,580
Not enough punches.

365
00:16:35,580 --> 00:16:37,080
He does have a punchable face.

366
00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,160
Wait, fuck. Do I have a punchable face?

367
00:16:39,620 --> 00:16:41,160
Oh, no, not like that.

368
00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:42,220
Oh, thank God.

369
00:16:42,220 --> 00:16:45,300
Have you guys your face is punchable for different reasons. Excellent.

370
00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:49,520
Have you guys seen the what kick ass to never know?

371
00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,600
I saw a trailer for it to buff it.

372
00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,940
It's way they Peters look alike.

373
00:16:53,940 --> 00:16:56,500
I have a hard time learning the Christmas class.

374
00:16:56,740 --> 00:16:58,840
I it's the three names.

375
00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:00,780
It's always serial killers. Yeah.

376
00:17:00,780 --> 00:17:01,980
It's just extra effort.

377
00:17:01,980 --> 00:17:04,540
He's just so much worse in that one.

378
00:17:04,540 --> 00:17:05,980
They just make him so much more annoying.

379
00:17:05,980 --> 00:17:10,480
It's terrible. So I'm glad that says something because he is quite annoying.

380
00:17:10,580 --> 00:17:11,480
He's annoying.

381
00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:16,860
But like it's just like they just take it up to like a volume level.

382
00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:20,020
That's just really obnoxious.

383
00:17:20,020 --> 00:17:22,920
And just he's just yelling all the time and he shouldn't be yelling.

384
00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,340
He's just like more of a little shit in this one.

385
00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:30,040
Just me. It was funny when he jumped off the dumpster and he's like, Oh, fuck.

386
00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,480
I think I bet you I have a feeling like that was like not in there.

387
00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,340
And he's like, Oh, shit, that hurt a little bit.

388
00:17:37,180 --> 00:17:39,440
What do you think of the violence in this?

389
00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,520
What it was definitely made to be shocking.

390
00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:45,820
And it was fun when it was, especially when you had a little girl doing it.

391
00:17:45,820 --> 00:17:48,520
That was the that was the big thing of the movie.

392
00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:52,100
I thought it was just like little girls swearing and murdering.

393
00:17:52,120 --> 00:17:53,500
Yeah, you're hyper violent.

394
00:17:53,500 --> 00:17:56,540
Jay Barichel. Oh, yeah.

395
00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:58,800
I mean, more than Christopher Mintz plot.

396
00:17:58,800 --> 00:17:59,960
I think that one's way more fair.

397
00:17:59,960 --> 00:18:01,740
Yeah. Yeah. All right.

398
00:18:01,740 --> 00:18:03,200
Just without the voice.

399
00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:07,080
Oh, yes. The violence was I mean, no, this was this was meant to be like shock value.

400
00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,720
Like they gave the you know, the big black bodyguard bazooka.

401
00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:11,320
That was all the best. He never got to use it.

402
00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,840
It was his dream and it got taken away from him.

403
00:18:14,420 --> 00:18:17,480
D'Amico getting killed with the bazooka was it was a cool death at the end.

404
00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:18,920
That was a pretty decent way to go.

405
00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:19,920
I do appreciate this.

406
00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:26,060
I learned this from mythbusters that, you know, like with RPGs and like artillery

407
00:18:26,060 --> 00:18:29,660
like that, they have to travel a certain amount before they're armed.

408
00:18:30,140 --> 00:18:32,900
So like he gets hit in the hit in the chest of the shell.

409
00:18:33,100 --> 00:18:35,300
It flies him out of the building before it explodes

410
00:18:35,300 --> 00:18:37,340
because it would take that long to like trigger.

411
00:18:37,340 --> 00:18:39,440
I appreciated the attention to detail.

412
00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:41,780
I mean, that might not have been attention to detail.

413
00:18:41,780 --> 00:18:43,480
They might have just been like,

414
00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,720
wouldn't it be so much cooler if it tossed him outside and then exploded?

415
00:18:47,120 --> 00:18:50,220
If they didn't like blow up everybody in the same room. Right.

416
00:18:50,220 --> 00:18:51,620
Yeah, but it is nice.

417
00:18:51,620 --> 00:18:53,880
I'm like, that's true or not.

418
00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:55,660
So let's leave a sequel open.

419
00:18:55,660 --> 00:18:58,660
I did. I did really love the comic when it came out.

420
00:18:58,660 --> 00:18:59,500
I haven't read it since.

421
00:18:59,500 --> 00:19:00,900
I don't think it'll hold up.

422
00:19:00,900 --> 00:19:04,000
But this movie is barely grounded for the most part.

423
00:19:04,300 --> 00:19:07,800
I was going to say they lost me as soon as he named himself kick ass.

424
00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,540
Like he's sitting there and he's like workshopping names in his thing.

425
00:19:11,540 --> 00:19:14,040
And he's just like, it wasn't one of them like nighty night.

426
00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:15,240
Oh, God.

427
00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,320
I was like a night ass or like

428
00:19:17,780 --> 00:19:20,180
a night kicker or something like that.

429
00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,580
I would hope everything just ended with ass night.

430
00:19:24,580 --> 00:19:27,320
Yes. Well, again, what it was just so.

431
00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,660
Did you know something really?

432
00:19:29,660 --> 00:19:32,600
I don't know. Low hanging fruit to increase the shock value.

433
00:19:32,700 --> 00:19:35,760
But like this movie does try to like stay relatively grounded

434
00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:39,500
up until they give him a jet pack with fucking mini guns on it.

435
00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,200
I thought that's where he became a superhero. Really?

436
00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,780
I mean, that's when you started doing like some something

437
00:19:45,780 --> 00:19:47,140
other than just baton and people.

438
00:19:47,140 --> 00:19:48,780
Yeah, that's when he stopped sucking.

439
00:19:48,780 --> 00:19:50,140
Yeah. And started killing.

440
00:19:50,140 --> 00:19:52,740
He started. Yeah. He said he's calling like a last.

441
00:19:52,740 --> 00:19:54,900
Oh, he got OK with murder.

442
00:19:54,900 --> 00:19:57,940
You know, he fucking Gatlin a bunch of guys.

443
00:19:57,980 --> 00:19:59,240
He sure did. Yeah.

444
00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,680
That was the coolest thing he did in the whole movie.

445
00:20:01,980 --> 00:20:03,280
Yeah. No, he didn't hesitate.

446
00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,480
And he looked like he was having fun at that point.

447
00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,520
Yeah. Like he's like, why didn't I start murdering ages ago?

448
00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:12,820
He sort of overall sucks shit, right? Yeah. Yeah.

449
00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,260
Yeah. It's a weird protagonist. Yeah.

450
00:20:15,620 --> 00:20:18,620
Again, like the story is really a hit girl story. Yeah. Yeah.

451
00:20:18,660 --> 00:20:21,260
She comes in and she's the real story.

452
00:20:21,260 --> 00:20:25,100
And that opening scene, you're shooting his daughter in the chest.

453
00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,400
It was such a good and they have a lot of good father daughter moments.

454
00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:29,600
They play it really well.

455
00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,440
I also want to say this movie does do one thing where it's like kind of Bucks

456
00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:36,420
tradition where you have like the mafia father who's like ashamed of his son.

457
00:20:36,540 --> 00:20:38,280
Now you have a very supportive mafia father.

458
00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,020
Yeah. Who likes his kid and takes him to the movies and gets him popcorn.

459
00:20:41,220 --> 00:20:43,180
Nice little mafia family unit. Yeah.

460
00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,260
But you knew he was a monster because he got Twizzlers.

461
00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:48,860
I love Mark Strong.

462
00:20:48,860 --> 00:20:51,560
Explain his movie theater. Yeah.

463
00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:56,160
I enjoyed him at the like theater, but like I I really liked him

464
00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,460
going through his order of like that's what I'm talking about.

465
00:20:58,460 --> 00:21:03,200
You get this and this getting a Twizzlers and some this and slushy

466
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,740
and slushy red mix with blue.

467
00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,480
Oh, man. You remember when he's going through

468
00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,220
he's chasing the fake kick ass. Yeah.

469
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,660
And kick ass gets like a couple high fives and he's like high fives.

470
00:21:14,660 --> 00:21:17,160
What the fuck is this high five motherfucker?

471
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,260
I'll give you a high five. High five your mother.

472
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:24,840
You really went OK.

473
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:25,900
Mark Strong is so good.

474
00:21:25,900 --> 00:21:28,880
I keep thinking that he and Cage had another movie overlap,

475
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:32,480
but it's because I keep mixing it up with the dude that was in the Humanity Bureau.

476
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,240
Oh, yeah. Definitely not the same guy.

477
00:21:35,540 --> 00:21:37,880
The guy's wait, Matt Damon.

478
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,060
Different. You're going to have a different humanity.

479
00:21:41,060 --> 00:21:42,360
There are different things.

480
00:21:42,360 --> 00:21:44,520
Who was in that? You're thinking of this cage was.

481
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,980
And I know what you're thinking of a different humanity or a different

482
00:21:47,980 --> 00:21:52,420
beer, humanity report that now it was a bureau something.

483
00:21:52,460 --> 00:21:53,260
Yeah, it was a beer.

484
00:21:53,260 --> 00:21:55,020
Something might have just been the bureau.

485
00:21:55,020 --> 00:21:57,860
So what do we think in terms of the Venn diagram?

486
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:02,200
Good cage, bad cage, good movie, bad movie, good, bad, bad, good, bad, bad, good, bad.

487
00:22:03,500 --> 00:22:07,740
Well, again, man, Nick Cage made the movie better.

488
00:22:07,780 --> 00:22:08,800
Yeah, every way.

489
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,480
And he should have been in there more.

490
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,480
Also, one of his best death scenes to date.

491
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,020
Oh, absolutely. Good Lord.

492
00:22:14,020 --> 00:22:16,180
I like burning and shit.

493
00:22:16,220 --> 00:22:17,220
He's yes, he's.

494
00:22:17,220 --> 00:22:18,480
Oh, that's true.

495
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,280
Kryptonite.

496
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,620
Kryptonite. Oh, my.

497
00:22:23,060 --> 00:22:26,360
That's the delivery still hurts me.

498
00:22:26,360 --> 00:22:27,600
I don't like that at all.

499
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:31,540
I remember when I saw it the first time, it's just like, couldn't you prioritize

500
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,500
like putting out daddy fire first?

501
00:22:34,500 --> 00:22:37,140
Like, that's what I tell my kids if I'm going to teach him anything.

502
00:22:37,140 --> 00:22:39,540
If daddy's on fire, pee on him.

503
00:22:39,540 --> 00:22:41,840
Daddy's on fire and kill everybody.

504
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,520
I mean, what the hell for the schools were around them.

505
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:49,480
She could have at least not be burned and knocked him out of the fiery area.

506
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,020
Right. Just not the chair back burning underneath him.

507
00:22:52,060 --> 00:22:52,860
Yeah, I do.

508
00:22:52,860 --> 00:22:53,580
And then you start.

509
00:22:53,580 --> 00:22:57,900
I do like the doom style first person like night vision, like, oh, no murder scene.

510
00:22:57,900 --> 00:22:59,820
Little the little girl murder scene.

511
00:22:59,820 --> 00:23:01,860
Yes, whenever she was killing people.

512
00:23:01,860 --> 00:23:03,600
Great. Yeah. Her fight.

513
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,340
Mark Strong, like just like, oh, man, that is a child.

514
00:23:06,340 --> 00:23:08,440
Like when he just like grabs you by the throat and she's like

515
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,280
dangling two feet off the ground.

516
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:11,980
Oh, it's while getting punched.

517
00:23:11,980 --> 00:23:14,640
It's the reality of the situation.

518
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,340
She's just a little girl.

519
00:23:16,340 --> 00:23:18,380
Yeah, but then he's a Mark Strong man.

520
00:23:18,380 --> 00:23:20,440
Oh, eventually you're going to hit back.

521
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,520
Oh, man. In the comics, though, like when Hit Girl gets captured, like

522
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,820
they take a tenderizer to her face.

523
00:23:25,980 --> 00:23:28,120
I'm not familiar with the source material.

524
00:23:28,120 --> 00:23:31,320
It's again, I remember enjoying it when I read it and I read it

525
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:32,520
before the movie came out.

526
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,460
So I'm sure my opinions will have changed.

527
00:23:34,460 --> 00:23:35,560
But also John Amita Jr.

528
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,660
Drew it, who did all the art for the movie.

529
00:23:37,660 --> 00:23:41,260
And I absolutely love John Amita Jr. I think Good Cage.

530
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,300
I'm going to say Good Movie. Good Cage.

531
00:23:43,300 --> 00:23:45,000
Fine movie. Oh, what?

532
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,400
I definitely say Good Cage.

533
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,660
Fine movie. OK, good, good movie.

534
00:23:49,660 --> 00:23:52,840
Those those quintessential cage moments of him screaming,

535
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:57,440
him just being wacky for no reason, just introducing character traits

536
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,680
that maybe nobody asked for, you know, all good things.

537
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:06,120
If this movie was on TV and I came across it on or near a scene

538
00:24:06,120 --> 00:24:07,980
with Nicolas Cage, I would watch it.

539
00:24:07,980 --> 00:24:13,120
But if I was just scrolling through and it was just like kick ass

540
00:24:13,120 --> 00:24:16,800
talking about stuff, I might just come back later.

541
00:24:17,100 --> 00:24:19,020
Right. That's not what's going to grab you.

542
00:24:19,020 --> 00:24:19,820
Yeah, no.

543
00:24:19,820 --> 00:24:22,660
So it's not enough reason to stop and watch the movie.

544
00:24:22,940 --> 00:24:24,300
But Nicolas Cage would be.

545
00:24:24,300 --> 00:24:27,780
I do want to point out one difference between the movie and the comic.

546
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,040
And the comic would make more sense with the Adam West presentation.

547
00:24:31,380 --> 00:24:34,920
Because in the comic, he's just like a weird super fan,

548
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:36,480
like weird comic fan.

549
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,320
And when Nicolas Cage's character.

550
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:39,460
Yeah. Big Daddy.

551
00:24:39,460 --> 00:24:42,280
And when like D'Amico's people like finally capture him

552
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,860
and they like open up like his bag of guns,

553
00:24:44,860 --> 00:24:47,020
it is just like first edition Spider-Man's.

554
00:24:47,020 --> 00:24:48,100
Like he's not a cop.

555
00:24:48,100 --> 00:24:50,460
He has no like crime fighting history.

556
00:24:50,620 --> 00:24:53,300
He's just a fucking guy who wanted to be a superhero.

557
00:24:53,500 --> 00:24:56,440
The cop angle, I think, makes more sense for how deadly he actually is.

558
00:24:56,740 --> 00:24:59,800
Yeah, it makes more sense for this movie, or at least makes it more fun.

559
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,640
It was strange that he was watercolor painting

560
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,980
all of the good at it, too. Yeah.

561
00:25:05,980 --> 00:25:07,880
And that's all John Amita Junior.

562
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:12,980
But yeah, how often do you have somebody write their confession in comic form?

563
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:18,560
But when Marcus shows up at the at the safe house, Marcus reads the comic

564
00:25:18,820 --> 00:25:20,860
that is the origin of Big Daddy and Hit Girl.

565
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,260
Not only did you write a confession, you illustrated it and water colored it.

566
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,360
Yeah. Here's a storyboard.

567
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:28,640
And then it's going to get burned.

568
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,960
And then later on, Hit Girl just reading it.

569
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:32,540
Mindy's just reading it.

570
00:25:32,540 --> 00:25:36,000
Oh, Big Daddy. Big Daddy. Big Daddy.

571
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,520
Oh, I hate it. I hate it so much.

572
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,820
I'm going to send you a Christmas card this year and be like,

573
00:25:42,180 --> 00:25:44,380
Merry Christmas, Big Daddy.

574
00:25:44,380 --> 00:25:46,680
Oh, no. Rachel's going to be so confused.

575
00:25:48,060 --> 00:25:52,860
And it'll just be a picture of me and Sean laying on a bed like looking at hamsters.

576
00:25:52,900 --> 00:25:56,100
Yeah. Gazing lovely at guinea pigs.

577
00:25:56,260 --> 00:26:00,300
I don't know. Just just a watercolor Nick Cage face with that mustache would be.

578
00:26:00,340 --> 00:26:02,200
That's all I need. Would be just fine.

579
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,640
That gets me over the edge every time.

580
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,600
Hmm. And then Big Daddy.

581
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,480
OK, how do we wrap that one up?

582
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,820
Yeah, that that wrapped itself up.

583
00:26:13,820 --> 00:26:15,240
Yeah, I think we're good then.

584
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,920
Yeah. Cut right in the middle of one of those big daddies.

585
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,160
Big Daddy. Oh, God.

586
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,120
OK, thank you all for listening.

587
00:26:24,120 --> 00:26:26,260
Tell them about the Patreon daddy.

588
00:26:26,460 --> 00:26:31,160
No. OK, if you want to support us on Patreon, you can find us at Cage Match.

589
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,820
Thank you to our Sparkle buddies, Josh, Sean, Josie, Rico, Matt and Adam

590
00:26:35,260 --> 00:26:39,800
and our cage dancers, Ira, Freeman, John and Lance.

591
00:26:39,940 --> 00:26:44,000
And yeah, if you want to chat with us at all and call us

592
00:26:44,900 --> 00:26:47,940
Big Daddy Daddy,

593
00:26:47,940 --> 00:26:51,840
you can chat with us on Friday at Cage Match pod or Instagram

594
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,180
at Cage underscore match underscore pod.

595
00:26:55,180 --> 00:26:57,380
Big Daddy. Big Daddy.

596
00:26:58,220 --> 00:26:59,220
Indeed.

597
00:26:59,220 --> 00:27:02,080
And everybody biggest that is.

598
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,340
That sounds like a John Grisham book, the Bureau.

599
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:17,660
I think it probably was.

600
00:27:17,660 --> 00:27:19,840
No, that was the firm.

601
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,840
The firm, what?

602
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,880
Oh, nice.

603
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,340
The firm Pelicans briefs.

604
00:27:25,340 --> 00:27:30,340
Yeah, nice.

