1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,640 Oh God. Oh my God. 2 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:23,480 Daddy, that's not going to make sense in chronological order. 3 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:27,000 No, that's a call for that in like a couple of weeks. 4 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,840 Yeah, so there's a sneak preview to what's coming for you. 5 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:32,240 What's coming for your ear holes? 6 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,440 Yeah, it made me unhappy. 7 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,040 It'll make it'll make you unhappy, too. 8 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,520 That's a cage match promise. 9 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,040 So I guess we should say welcome back to cage match, 10 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,200 call in a roundabout way of meeting Nicholas Cage. 11 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:49,600 I'm Sean here with my co-host Nick and our producer Peter. 12 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,120 Hi. And this is a special episode. 13 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,480 We're going to kind of look back at the last. 14 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:57,760 However long this has been over a year. 15 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:02,600 Yeah, it's I think we've gotten 15 months into this. 16 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,360 That's pretty good. 14 months. 17 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,480 No, going out 15. Yeah, that's a long haul. 18 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,480 We we got 15 more months to go to. 19 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,960 Yeah, we really did commit to this thing, didn't we? 20 00:01:12,320 --> 00:01:14,920 It was a lot of dedication to hanging out together. 21 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,240 That's the worst part. 22 00:01:18,960 --> 00:01:20,560 I mean, we do hang out together a lot, 23 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,040 but I feel like this is kind of this is kind of a doubling down of the situation. 24 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:25,320 What do you guys think? 25 00:01:25,320 --> 00:01:28,200 Do you want to just run quickly through the bracket 26 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,480 and talk about any that like really stood out to you? 27 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:33,240 I could do that. Sure. 28 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:34,920 Yeah. Guide me through this experience. 29 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,200 Yeah. Let's let's take a look back on the previous year. 30 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,440 From the from the beginning, where did we start off? 31 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,000 So we started off with Face Off and Jujitsu. 32 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:44,320 That was the right call. 33 00:01:44,320 --> 00:01:48,920 It was a great way to start this off. High highs and low lows. Yeah. 34 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,320 My only regret on this one is 35 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,400 this sort of the fault of my finding these movies is that 36 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,240 that really was not a Nick Cage movie. 37 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,680 Although the only thing that was notable about it was Nick Cage. 38 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,160 So maybe it is. Yeah. Yeah. 39 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,680 I mean, it was more of a Nick Cage movie than Kick Ass turns out to be. 40 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:06,840 Again, spoilers for the future. 41 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,640 Now, yeah, I remember him being in that a lot more. 42 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:11,720 I mean, he made an impact, certainly. 43 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:13,520 Just like he did in Jujitsu. 44 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:14,800 True. And we're back on track. 45 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,600 Perfect. Thanks, Sean. Good segue. 46 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:18,280 What's that? 47 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:22,280 But it also defined a lot of a lot of good things for us, 48 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,640 like genital swap technology. Yeah, for sure. 49 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:26,720 Yeah, we started strong. 50 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,560 So then next up, we went into adaptation and Army of One, 51 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:35,040 which is probably one of our more contentious decisions. 52 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:36,840 Yeah, I'll get a lot of shit for that. 53 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,080 And that's fine. Rightfully so. 54 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:43,480 But I still hold to my argument at the moment of 55 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,360 if I was going to show somebody a Nicholas Cage movie, 56 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,760 like if we were just hanging out 90 percent of the time, 57 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:53,720 I would show them Army of One before I showed them adaptation, 58 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:55,920 despite how good adaptation is. 59 00:02:56,920 --> 00:02:58,600 Yeah, you're not wrong. 60 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:00,040 Yeah, I know. It's still a fair argument. 61 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,040 I just am like a little cranky about it. 62 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,520 I mean, what other movie starts off with Nicholas Cage 63 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,560 flying through the air on a red, white and blue hang glider 64 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:12,680 with the boombox and a katana? Yeah, there can be only one. 65 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,840 I mean, that is kind of a quintessential Nick Cage performance. 66 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,880 And the voice, the voice was just incredible as well. 67 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:22,120 It's a real delight. Ma'am. 68 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,040 Yeah, we'll get back into that soon enough. 69 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:25,800 I can't wait to talk about that one again. 70 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,240 See, I'm already glad it won. 71 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,480 I never regretted that decision. 72 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,040 Yeah, I suppose. Spoiler alert for anyone listening to this. 73 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,960 But I assume you've listened to most of our back catalog at this point. 74 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,920 But yeah, we're going to talk about which ones win. 75 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,520 Oh, yeah. Don't start in this episode, dummy. Idiot. 76 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,560 So, yeah, then we went into Pig and Left Behind. 77 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,800 Pig was a big breakout for me. 78 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,040 And no regrets. No regrets there. 79 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,280 Moving past Left Behind. Left Behind. 80 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,960 I mean, we left that behind. It is one of my bottom three. 81 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:55,600 It's definitely a bottom. 82 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:57,880 This is a bad bottom. Birdie and the Wicker Man. 83 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:03,120 I completely stand by my decision to have Wicker Man go forward. 84 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,000 That movie is unhinged. 85 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,520 It's a really terrific movie. He punches so many women. 86 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:08,880 He does punch a lot of women. 87 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,400 I just hope more people watch Birdie because it is a great movie. 88 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:13,280 You should. Yeah. 89 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,480 Also, we established the rule that if if a woman is trying to burn you. 90 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,120 Yeah, you can punch her. You get one free punch. Yeah. 91 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,480 Yeah. If you're going to punch a woman, make sure she tries to light you on fire. 92 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,640 Yeah. And that I think that caveat needs to be there. 93 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,200 Not just burnt, but trying to light you on fire. 94 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:29,200 Moving on. 95 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,280 So this was my least favorite week ever. 96 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:34,760 Oh, Ghost Rider was terrific. 97 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,240 You knew it right away. Yeah. Ghost Rider versus Doug. 98 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,120 Ghost Rider is so amazing. 99 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,920 You guys are wrong and dumb. It's so funny. I quit. 100 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:46,800 But as bad as dog eat dog is, it's also terrific. 101 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,840 I got Willem Dafoe does have Willem. 102 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,080 I don't have any notes in front of me, so I don't remember who the other. 103 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:55,760 He was a nobody. Yeah. 104 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:57,720 He was some like Will Sasso looking to. 105 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:59,560 I was going to say not Will Sasso. 106 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,240 He was in Army of One. 107 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,720 It could happen to you versus racing with the moon. 108 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:05,080 That was the Sean Penn movie. 109 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,360 Yeah. Where we saw Sean Penn's ball sack. Yeah. 110 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:09,240 Which was good in the moonlight. 111 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:10,680 It was just like, you know, ball sack. 112 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,280 Yeah. Daytime ball sack as he jumps into some water. 113 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,760 I mean, so many of these films kind of followed the same rough arc 114 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:19,680 that a lot of them are bleeding together. 115 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,480 How many movies have we seen Sean Penn's ball sack in? 116 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,000 I can say one. 117 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,040 They work at the bowling alley, right? Yeah. All right. 118 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,600 And he does that sweet dance move. I did like him in that. 119 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:31,200 That was a good movie. I actually really like that one. 120 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:35,440 It was a good movie. Oh, and our first little creeper dude that I love. 121 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,360 Willem. Oh, Willard. 122 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:39,280 Willard. Yeah. 123 00:05:39,280 --> 00:05:41,160 God, I sat next to this guy in a in a. 124 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:42,480 Yeah, I know. 125 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:47,080 I'm going to leave all this nonsense in here, too, where we're just like that guy. 126 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:49,560 I make it. 127 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,000 It's Crispin Glover. I love Crispin Glover. 128 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,960 I forgot he's in that place, such a tool bag. 129 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,520 Yeah, he does. But he's on his butthole later. 130 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,480 He made at least enough of an impact that I got to see. 131 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,720 They're like, remember him now. Yeah. 132 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:04,520 He's a real fucking asshole on that. 133 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,560 It could happen to you, though, I think was the better performance by Nick Cage. 134 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,360 And whereas Racing with the Moon was really Sean Pence balls. 135 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:11,560 Yeah, absolutely. 136 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:13,880 They they took the spotlight. 137 00:06:14,280 --> 00:06:17,800 All right. Then we went on to World Trade Center and Frozen Ground. 138 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,320 That was a bleak. 139 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:21,800 That was that was pretty rough. 140 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,280 Frozen Ground was a cool was a good little crime drama. 141 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,600 I mean, one of those based on actual event stories. 142 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,120 So it's very dry, but compelling. 143 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,480 And Evil Cusack was fun to watch. 144 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,720 And Nick Cage put a really solid performance on. 145 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,000 And there was more boobs than a World Trade Center. 146 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:38,200 It did have Michael Payne there. 147 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,560 And it did have Michael Shannon to all the Michaels, all the Michaels. 148 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:43,320 Every Michael was in the movie. 149 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:47,280 I just remember that movie being as much of a fucking conspiracy 150 00:06:47,280 --> 00:06:51,160 or set up as the whole actual 9-11. 151 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:55,240 Yeah. Being funded by people who were involved 152 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,840 just so they could tell their story and like sell books and shit. 153 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:00,640 Yeah, that's kind of fucked up. Yeah. 154 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,560 Yes. Then we ended up going to National Treasure 155 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:05,920 Book of Secrets and Sorcerer's Apprentice. 156 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,280 I'm glad we did the sequel to National Treasure 157 00:07:09,280 --> 00:07:11,720 before we did the first National Treasure. 158 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,360 100 percent. Definitely like the second one more. 159 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:15,600 Second one's a lot of fun. 160 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:20,000 And if I had already been kind of like biased by watching the first one first, 161 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:21,760 I might not have enjoyed it as much. 162 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,960 Yeah. Although I do think I do think we sent Sorcerer's Apprentice ahead. 163 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,360 We did, which I think was the right choice, because that movie is a lot of fun. 164 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,880 Oh, that was also our first double Brockheimer, wasn't it? 165 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:33,760 It was. No, that was Turtletop, right? 166 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,840 Oh, oh, yeah, that was two Turtletops. 167 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:39,280 Two Turtles, but also two Brockheimer films and two Brockheimer films. 168 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,280 Yeah, it was a lot of Brockheimer and two Turtletops. 169 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:43,400 But the Brockheimer. 170 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,480 Then, yeah, we went to Red Rock West, 171 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:49,760 what request against Dying of the Light that was like a second trader. 172 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,320 Yeah. And the worst, the worst one, because it just was it didn't even have 173 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,400 like weird, unhinged parts of it. 174 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,000 No, it was just real boring. 175 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:01,280 Red Rock West is probably the thing that I've got out of this 176 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,280 that I secretly like love the most. 177 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,680 Like that's probably up there with one of my favorite Nick Cage movies. 178 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:10,280 It's so weird and strange and funny. 179 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:12,720 Yeah, it's just a different kind of storytelling. 180 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:16,800 Yeah, like it wasn't afraid to just like, I don't know how to describe it. 181 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:18,880 No, it's like it's a weird comedy of errors. 182 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,320 Everyone's out for themselves, but it's a lot of fun. 183 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,000 Yeah. Go watch that. 184 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,960 Then, yeah, we went to Raising Arizona and Trapped in Paradise. 185 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:27,640 Oh, Trapped in Paradise. 186 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:29,800 That one was just awful. 187 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,760 Really interesting behind the scenes, like stuff behind it. 188 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,200 But the movie itself is so bad. It's dumb. 189 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,720 It's what you would expect to watch on Comedy Central when you're like 190 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,680 hung over a shit on a Saturday morning or 12 or 12. 191 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,040 Yeah, it's a shitty movie. Don't watch that movie. 192 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,560 But Raising Arizona, unless you need a Nicolas Cage Christmas movie. 193 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:49,720 Yes. Then you can watch it. 194 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:53,920 Yeah. So then leaving Las Vegas and the runner trying to remember what the runner was. 195 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,800 It was like a Mississippi politician. 196 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:58,760 Oh, OK. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 197 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:00,360 Another very sure. 198 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,440 Not a bad performance, but just nothing substance in the film. 199 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:04,480 Yeah, it was a nothing burger. 200 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:08,360 Could be good if it were done differently and had like a good quality writer. 201 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:12,880 Yeah. But so if you just did it differently and somebody else wrote it. 202 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:14,560 New cast. Yeah. 203 00:09:14,560 --> 00:09:15,880 New director photography. 204 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:16,920 Still Nicolas Cage. 205 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,320 But no, obviously. Otherwise, we wouldn't bother talking about. 206 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:20,800 But he would play the wife role. 207 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:22,480 Oh, that'd be great. Yeah. 208 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,720 Then we had Color Out of Space and Looking Glass. 209 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:31,320 Color Out of Space is the movie that gave me the idea for this podcast, 210 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:35,560 because I was thoroughly in the camp of, oh, Nick Cage is just a bad actor 211 00:09:35,560 --> 00:09:39,160 in a lot of things. And I saw this film assuming it would be bad 212 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,600 because most Lovecraft adaptations are bad. Exactly. 213 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,720 And just like he was great in it. 214 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:47,440 The movie itself is a lot of fun. 215 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,080 It's a great adaptation of my favorite Lovecraft story. 216 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:52,120 Really enjoy this one. 217 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:53,360 Yeah, that was a really cool one. 218 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:57,120 And the art direction in the movie really kind of blew me away 219 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:01,480 because their use of colors was just super like strong and vivid. 220 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,520 And it caught my attention. 221 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,760 The one downside to this one being the director had like a trilogy planned 222 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,000 and then got canceled immediately after this came out. 223 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:13,680 Yeah. He had some domestic abuse allegations at the time. 224 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:14,760 Yeah. Yeah. 225 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:16,040 Not good. 226 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,120 Fucking stop hitting your wives, dudes. 227 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:19,840 Unless they try and light you on fire. Right. 228 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:21,720 Yeah. Then you get one. 229 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,520 So speaking of hitting women, because I think that happens in this one, too. 230 00:10:24,560 --> 00:10:26,960 Drive angry and stolen with the next movie. 231 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,840 Oh, yeah. So drive angry. 232 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:36,360 I don't remember why we fucked how we fucked this one up as bad as we did. 233 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:37,760 Didn't stolen go ahead? 234 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:39,680 Stolen did advance. Yeah. 235 00:10:39,680 --> 00:10:42,560 Why? Because you're more interested in heists. 236 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:46,400 It was it was a top to bottom stolen had a more cohesive story 237 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:47,240 was what we kind of decided. 238 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:51,840 I think I like the idea of drive angry more than I enjoy the film. Well, 239 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,760 it also was like thoroughly in that three D realm. 240 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,280 Oh, yeah. Like an axe flying at the screen. 241 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,560 Yeah. Jesus, this is fucking insufferable. 242 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:02,760 I think it's also just like 20 minutes too long to keep my attention. 243 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,200 So Peggy Sue got married in the family, man. 244 00:11:05,560 --> 00:11:08,640 He like falls asleep and he's like a hot shot. 245 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,480 Fuck wakes up with kids and stuff. 246 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,080 Yeah. Like some of those high school girls to love that. 247 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,880 And yeah, it's sells itself as kind of like a comedy romp. 248 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:18,560 And it's just depressing. 249 00:11:18,560 --> 00:11:21,600 Right. And Jeremy Piven is his his like, oh, man. 250 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,880 Yeah. The first time Jeremy Piven's just a solid dude 251 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,080 instead of just being a shitty bro. 252 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:28,520 Fuck. Yeah. 253 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,840 That was a good performance by Jeremy Piven. It was. 254 00:11:31,680 --> 00:11:34,400 Then we moved on to City of Angels and Kiss of Death. 255 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,320 City of Angels sucks. That's for sure. 256 00:11:37,560 --> 00:11:40,560 Oh, three. Our first. 257 00:11:40,560 --> 00:11:43,000 Yeah, he he lifts Hope Davis. 258 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:44,760 The bench presses are hope. 259 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:49,600 Yeah, it's his first first appearance as a heel trucks, a guy via the neck. 260 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:51,160 Oh, from a cab. 261 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,120 I loved his bedazzled inhaler, though. 262 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:55,120 Yeah, that was fucking great. 263 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:58,960 Yeah, it was definitely his like buffest role. 264 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:00,960 Yeah. Yeah. And he's like cut out tank tops. 265 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:02,000 Yeah. Sexy mother. 266 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,240 That was a good role. Yeah, I like that one. 267 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:05,600 We picked right. Yeah. 268 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,440 No, that was good. I enjoyed that a lot. 269 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:08,880 I'm looking forward to representing that. 270 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:10,960 Vampires kiss in between worlds. 271 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,640 That was a weird week. Weird week for sure. 272 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:16,080 It was one of those ones where I had to watch vampires kiss twice 273 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,520 to really appreciate how good it is. 274 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:21,720 Oh, that one's right up there with like 275 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:26,200 raising Arizona for me and just like absurd. 276 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,120 Loved it from the get go kind of movies. 277 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,920 Vampires Kiss is the one I tried to watch on an airplane, 278 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:33,560 but there were a lot of boobs. 279 00:12:33,560 --> 00:12:37,360 So I had to like, I mean, I did watch it all, but I had to shield it a lot. 280 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:41,560 Yeah, that's that's one of those movies that like I 281 00:12:41,560 --> 00:12:47,120 I really appreciate how much of it is existing in the zeitgeist for everybody. 282 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:50,080 Like everyone just knows certain bits and pieces of that movie. 283 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,680 And like there are other, you know, even if it's just like stills from it. 284 00:12:53,680 --> 00:12:54,600 Right. Exactly. 285 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,680 It's a very memeable movie, and I think it's really made an impact. 286 00:12:58,560 --> 00:13:02,080 Then we went to The Rock and Bangkok Dangerous, 287 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,160 the fucking one of the worst movies. 288 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,000 Yeah, the Rock's pretty rough. 289 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:09,360 You hate Bangkok Dangerous, too. 290 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,400 No, I definitely hate Bangkok. 291 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:12,920 Bangkok Dangerous is bad. 292 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:14,720 It's just boring is the problem. 293 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:19,640 Like it's not bad as much as it just doesn't give you anything. 294 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:21,920 Like it just sucks. Yeah. 295 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,960 Oh, yeah. Then Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent and The Trust. 296 00:13:25,560 --> 00:13:28,080 I loved The Trust. 297 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,960 And while I like I'm very worried about talent is a lot of fun. 298 00:13:32,560 --> 00:13:34,080 I think I'd rather watch the trust again. 299 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:35,880 I know I'm bearable weight went forward. 300 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:39,240 But yeah. Oh, the trust was the did not go ahead. 301 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,320 Elijah Wood, Elijah Wood movie. 302 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,280 That one was fine, but I don't. 303 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:48,480 It never really like piqued me while Unbearable Weight 304 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:53,400 at least got me laughing and rolling on a consistent basis. 305 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:56,880 Yeah. Yeah. Unbearable Weight's just a more consistent movie. 306 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:01,360 I mean, it doesn't offer anything to the greater pantheon of Nicolas Cage. 307 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:02,360 Oh, little Nicky. 308 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:05,160 Aside from like good fan service. 309 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,200 And we know that Nick Cage smooch is good. 310 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,360 And he deserves a fan service movie. That's true. 311 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:13,040 And once you have 100 titles to your name or 100 credits to your name, 312 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:17,360 you deserve to have a movie that just kind of toots your own horn. 313 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,680 I love a good self tooting. 314 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:21,880 Man, if I could toot my horn. 315 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,480 Yeah. So then it was Joe and Zonda Lee. 316 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:28,440 That's a weird movie. 317 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:29,920 That was a great week. 318 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,400 I wish both of them could have gone forward. 319 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:37,280 I understand that obviously Zonda sucks a lot. 320 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:40,840 But I just want more people to see it. 321 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:42,320 Also, it's just watch that. 322 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,720 I'm upset that movie is not memed more. 323 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:49,440 It's so weird him with the paint, like just splashing it all over his face. Yeah. 324 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,520 And just judge Reinhold's like slow turn to the camera. 325 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,640 Oh, man. Am I the cuck? 326 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,120 All right. Go watch Zonda Lee. 327 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,520 Yeah. Also, where we where we learn the proper pronunciation of Kukul. 328 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,360 No, we didn't. 329 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,880 Apparently across the board, we did not. 330 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,520 And we had a Mandy and Prisoners of the Ghostland. 331 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,040 That was a great week. 332 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:13,480 Mandy was a terrific. 333 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:14,920 I love Mandy. 334 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:18,480 This is this is maybe one of my only like regret ones. 335 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,880 I think Mandy is a great movie and I'm excited to watch it again 336 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:22,360 and have like fresh eyes on it. 337 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:27,600 But like, it's so gross to watch that it like doesn't bring me joy. 338 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,880 And Prisoners of the Ghostland was fucking ridiculous. 339 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,640 And it brought me constant joy. Yeah. 340 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:35,920 Samurai Town was super weird. Yeah. 341 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:39,320 Like everything about prisoners was odd. 342 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:40,720 Yeah. The same. 343 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,120 The color palette was jarring. 344 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,480 But I'm saying that as a compliment, I guess. 345 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,120 It really upset me. 346 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,160 Go about it. Go about it. 347 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:54,800 That movie fucking rules. 348 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:56,400 Watch that movie. That's a weird one. 349 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,000 I just I loved I loved. 350 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,200 I mean, it's terrible. 351 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,280 Start to finish everything about it. 352 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:05,640 It's weird hour long intro, which just leads into the hyper violence. 353 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:07,960 Yeah, I mean, they're both great. 354 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,480 But that is one of my only like I'm a little salty 355 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,800 that it couldn't have been both of them. 356 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,720 Yeah. Then we had National Treasure and Primal. 357 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:16,720 Mm hmm. 358 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:18,480 This is one of the ones that I had to choose on. 359 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:22,400 We had we had Peter made Nick and I leave our knives at the door for this one. 360 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,360 Yeah, because we all know who would win in a knife fight. 361 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,280 Yeah, not me. Peter. 362 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,360 Why? Because he has all the knives now. 363 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,720 Oh, yeah, right. Yeah, I have to. You have none. 364 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:39,240 Man, I still hold that in this matchup, my time is gold. 365 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:44,120 And the fact that I could spend a half an hour less watching Primal 366 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:49,280 and just enjoy a shitty movie versus a two hour 367 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,880 Brockheimer kind of just mid movie. 368 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,960 I just think Nick K just so much better. 369 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,320 So forgettable in Primal. 370 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,120 Aside from marching down a staircase, 371 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,320 we're going to get into a second fight again. 372 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:09,240 Oh, see. So it's not even until the second one that I give a shit about that. 373 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:13,280 I love him in National Treasure one. I think he's I think he's great. Yeah. 374 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,520 It's a fine movie, but I don't have two hours for that. 375 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:22,000 He's just such a shitty person on top of everything else in Primal. 376 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:26,200 I'm still going to watch that movie periodically and talk to Sean about it. 377 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,520 Well, you're going to make Sean watch it occasionally, too. Yeah. 378 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:30,920 So I'm just going to slip it in primal. 379 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,600 And I'll put the movie on to 380 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:38,600 grow. Then we went to the Valley Girl 381 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,280 and Weatherman matchup with Shay as our guest. 382 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:45,000 I watched Weatherman like when it first came out on DVD 383 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:46,680 and I remembered it being great. 384 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,560 And then I watched it almost 20 years later. 385 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,360 And it's still great. Yeah. I love that movie. 386 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:53,520 I was about to get upset. 387 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:58,480 No, the weatherman was a terrific film. He gets chicken nuggets thrown at him. 388 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,440 I'm sad, though, because Valley Girl was ridiculous, 389 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:07,760 like such a goofy snapshot of the 80s kind of a movie. 390 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,800 Yeah. And I really enjoyed that. 391 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:11,360 And the music was really good, too. 392 00:18:11,360 --> 00:18:16,480 It had a great soundtrack and it was a terrific 80s teen movie. 393 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,960 And it was Windtalkers and bringing out the dead. 394 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:21,720 That was a intense episode. 395 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,640 That was a lot. And just fucking it was on. 396 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,760 Woo makes shorter films. Yeah. 397 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,040 You you don't have that much to say. 398 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,040 I really like bringing out the dead. 399 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:32,680 Absolutely terrific movie. 400 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:33,800 Windtalkers was good. 401 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:37,680 That was also the first time I'd seen a war movie in a while, too. 402 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,760 The definite easy choice was bringing out the dead and the correct choice. 403 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,760 The next episode that we ran into was where I lost my shit 404 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:47,720 because it was mom and dad versus next. 405 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:55,240 It's weird listening to myself, like absolutely busting up laughing. 406 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,960 Jessica Biel exploding is the funniest thing ever. 407 00:18:59,120 --> 00:19:02,480 It is. And they show it so many times. 408 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:03,920 And it comes out of nowhere. 409 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:05,000 She just explodes. 410 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:09,200 I mean, she's tied to a chair of C4, but you don't expect her to actually explode. 411 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,520 That one was amazing, though. I loved it. 412 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,600 I hate that movie so much. So terrible. 413 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,920 But that episode is great. 414 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,720 And we had Conair and rage with my brother. 415 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,160 Oh, yeah. Your brother was in rage. 416 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:22,840 Yeah, exactly. He was in rage. 417 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,200 We were recording with us. Yes. 418 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,680 Conair easily my favorite of the action 419 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:31,760 like the main action trilogy of cage films. 420 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:33,720 I think I have to agree with that. 421 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,320 Yeah. Like Moonstruck and Honeymoon in Vegas. 422 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:37,840 Good match up. 423 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:42,440 Honeymoon in Vegas is such a weird film where I don't like anybody. 424 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:47,080 It is a nice to, you know, romantic comedy kind of movies 425 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,800 about similar infidelity themes and stuff. 426 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,280 You know, it was a good time. Share. 427 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:53,680 Share is great. Share. 428 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:55,200 Yeah, sure was great. 429 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,080 Got to find out. I make a decent share. 430 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:58,680 People in the Seattle area. 431 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:03,400 Cif is going to be showing Moonstruck in their theaters in October. 432 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,840 I think it's like late October. So there you go. 433 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,000 I could be wrong about that. Look at the CIF website. 434 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,360 I don't know if you're not in Seattle. Cool. 435 00:20:10,360 --> 00:20:11,280 Thanks for listening. 436 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,120 Oh, also to our Richmond listeners, I don't know if this happened yet, 437 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:19,480 but the bird is doing a cage match for movie Nick Cage series. 438 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:21,560 Not related. Not related to us. 439 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,400 They're just calling it the same thing. Yeah. 440 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,240 Punks. Yeah. Ding, dong. 441 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:26,400 Yeah. So I don't know. 442 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,880 Look out there. There's there's Nicholas Cage movies. 443 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,360 People love Nicholas Cage wherever you're at. 444 00:20:31,360 --> 00:20:34,800 Then we had Lord of War and Captain Kareli's Mandolin, 445 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:36,360 which was one of the weirder. 446 00:20:36,360 --> 00:20:39,880 I was expecting that movie to be so much worse considering how much like 447 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,160 flak it gets like out there. 448 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,000 But it's a fine. It's a fine little film. 449 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:46,080 Yeah, it's fine. 450 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:50,920 It's exactly what I would expect to watch on like a Sunday afternoon on network TV. 451 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,040 I don't think Lord of War is getting a lot of Sunday afternoon play. 452 00:20:54,360 --> 00:20:57,840 I also thought I really expected Lord of War to be better, too. 453 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,000 Yeah, that's kind of my my thinking, too. 454 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:04,360 It really kind of it's all downhill after the opening sequence of the bullet 455 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,560 going through its lifecycle. 456 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,080 And some of the credits were your favorite part. 457 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:11,120 Open credits. 458 00:21:11,120 --> 00:21:15,640 I mean, that movie is good for its time period in the cage geography. 459 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,120 Yeah, it just didn't have a lot to stand up against. 460 00:21:19,120 --> 00:21:23,120 It was probably his biggest movie with a couple of years on either side of it. 461 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,640 I just don't think that movie had anything to say in the end. 462 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:27,120 No, there was no. 463 00:21:27,120 --> 00:21:28,960 Apparently enough that they think they're going to do the sequel. 464 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:33,080 But then we had Wild at Heart and Knowing with Daryl. 465 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,600 Terrific. Loved Wild at Heart. 466 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:36,760 Yeah, such a fucking. 467 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,400 We got to see that in a SIF event. 468 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,400 Yeah, that was a really fun recording, too. 469 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:41,680 I had a blast with that one. 470 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:43,120 Yeah. Thanks, Daryl. 471 00:21:43,120 --> 00:21:44,600 You're a mensch. Yeah. 472 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,400 Oh, and we are in spider season now. 473 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,080 So, you know, enjoy that. 474 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:49,880 Yeah. And we were cocky the other day and we were like, 475 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:51,520 a good thing we're done with spider season. 476 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:52,600 Well, the rain started early. 477 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,560 Then I caught one right in the face in the morning. 478 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,520 Yeah. Fuck. Never let your guard down. 479 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:57,320 Still in the beginnings. 480 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:58,200 You know. All right. 481 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,600 This is in we're in the last round through the bracket here. 482 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,920 This is our last four episodes was Gone in 60 Seconds 483 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:04,600 and Ghost Rider Spirit of Vengeance. 484 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:09,040 I like how Ghost Rider gets its redemption with its unhinged sequel. 485 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,600 It is very bad shit. 486 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:12,320 I love it. 487 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:16,840 I wish there was a little more of an attempt to connect to the two movies. 488 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,720 I mean, these are two definite standalones. 489 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,800 The only thing that's consistent is Nicholas Cage. Yeah. 490 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,640 It's it's a complete performance. 491 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:25,920 It's not consistent. 492 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:27,680 No, it's a complete reboot. 493 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:31,160 And I like the idea that he's not like peak superhero guy anymore. 494 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:32,400 Like he never takes his jacket off. 495 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:36,120 He's a bitch, lovey, but his power comes from like hell. 496 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,600 Hell. It's true. 497 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,280 All right. Then it was a matchstick man in guarding tests. 498 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:42,680 Two weird movies. 499 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:47,520 Yeah. I'm a little surprised that you guys went with the guarding tests victory. 500 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:48,520 It makes sense. 501 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,800 But I feel like it was such a slow paced movie 502 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,320 that really didn't have a ton to do. 503 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:59,400 At least it's sold on the relationship between him and Tess. 504 00:22:59,440 --> 00:22:59,880 Yeah. 505 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:03,040 And I really like their performances together. 506 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:04,640 The ending is where it loses me. 507 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,360 Whereas with matchstick men, I don't 508 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,520 I don't like the father daughter relationship. 509 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:11,880 It made me uncomfortable. 510 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:12,240 Yeah. 511 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,760 You know, it made me very uncomfortable for a long time. 512 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,600 Well, because like from the get go, I'm like, you're clearly an adult woman. 513 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,120 So you're conning this guy and it's just it's uncomfortable. 514 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,200 I guess I just don't like seeing people with disabilities 515 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,680 taking advantage of so strongly. 516 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,520 Yeah, that's that's kind of weird. 517 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:31,200 Use that. 518 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,800 Don't like I'm usually very pro take advantage of people, but 519 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,480 in this situation, I'm like, oh, come on. 520 00:23:39,120 --> 00:23:40,760 Come on, Sam Rockwell. 521 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,000 Good move. Real dick move. 522 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:47,320 Oh, yeah. And then it was bad lieutenant port of call New Orleans and eight millimeter. 523 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,840 I am also a little surprised that one of our hottest weeks 524 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,120 that we went with the snuff film. 525 00:23:53,120 --> 00:23:54,320 Yeah, I'm a little surprised by it. 526 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:55,440 It's a good movie. 527 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:56,440 It's a really good movie. 528 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,760 I thought about it more after recording that one. 529 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,200 And I think I agree with you. 530 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:05,480 I just I really liked the the zany fucking performance of Bad Lieutenant 531 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:06,920 a little bit more. 532 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,760 But the movie eight millimeter is a better. 533 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:12,040 I think Bad Lieutenant could have been better if it built 534 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,280 to the pure insanity of his drug addled mind. 535 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:19,080 It just goes from I'm I'm a I'm a shitty cop. 536 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,080 I'm a shitty cop to just insanity. 537 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:23,240 There's no bill to it. 538 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:24,720 And it's not a great film. 539 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,800 I think if the film had been built so that everybody else 540 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:35,120 and everything else about the movie was super straight, like crime drama, 541 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:39,400 get Val Kilmer to like pull it back a little bit, do these little things 542 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:43,680 and make everybody super serious and then let Nicholas Cage 543 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,400 take it even up one more notch. Yeah. 544 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,240 And have some kind of like 545 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:50,280 Chuck's visual. 546 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:54,000 No, just like a visual distinction in all of the like weird 547 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,200 like a guano visions and things like that. 548 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:57,960 Did love a guano vision. More a guano. 549 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:03,680 Yeah. But like have Nicholas Cage in his own movie, essentially. 550 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:04,400 Yeah. OK. 551 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:05,600 Existing in that world. 552 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,440 If they had done that, maybe I would have to see it. 553 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,320 I mean, we're still talking about Werner Werner Herzog. 554 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,360 But but I still love eight millimeter. 555 00:25:14,360 --> 00:25:15,600 Eight millimeter was terrific. 556 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:16,840 It's a good movie. 557 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,760 And it's one of those things where what's the director? 558 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,520 Dude, nipples on the nipples on the bat. 559 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:26,080 So Joel Schumacher, where his weird kind of unhinged 560 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:30,960 like cinematography really lends itself to the uncomfortableness of the film. 561 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:36,680 Like, I see why he was the name he was, because as a child of the late 90s, 562 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,480 all I know knew him from was the worst Batman films, 563 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,880 not the worst Batman film. 564 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,600 That's still The Dark Knight Rises. 565 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,080 True. Yeah, we did get to watch a little bit of Batman and Robin 566 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:50,440 at the bar the other day. Yeah. 567 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,120 And it was good. It was a lot of fun. 568 00:25:52,120 --> 00:25:53,400 I used to meet you. 569 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:57,800 I got to read all the Bane lines, which were just girl. 570 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,520 It will be very painful for you. 571 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,440 Explosions. 572 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,640 And then we wrapped up our season with Willy's Wonderland and Snake Eyes. 573 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,160 The best way to end this was with Willy's Wonderland. 574 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,480 Yeah, that's a popcorn finale for sure. 575 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,800 Definitely. Snake Eyes is fine. 576 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:17,960 Snake Eyes is fine. 577 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,040 It was an enjoyable movie. 578 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,880 It doesn't hold up strongly in rewatches, 579 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,360 just because you know everything that's going to happen. 580 00:26:26,360 --> 00:26:28,600 Well, 30 minutes into the movie, you also know everything 581 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,160 that's going to happen 30 minutes of the movie the first time you watch it, 582 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,240 because they tell you who the bad guy is. Yeah. 583 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:38,040 So it's hard to watch like an additional three and a half hours of that movie. 584 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,360 Yeah. Knowing all the conceits. 585 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:44,760 Yeah. But Willy's Wonderland, Nicholas Cage doesn't say anything. 586 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,920 And he still feels the show is going to happen. 587 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,400 You don't even need a conceit. Yeah, it's great. 588 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,840 So there's kids that are there providing dialogue that don't matter. 589 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,040 Punch soda. Regardless, he's going to play pinball. 590 00:26:56,040 --> 00:27:00,080 And if you say that word, I refuse to say the second word. 591 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,600 So that was season one done. 592 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:07,320 That's our cover. 593 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:11,000 Brief recap as as we only know how to do very long. 594 00:27:12,120 --> 00:27:14,600 I enjoyed most of this. 595 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,760 There's a good 60 percent of it. I liked. Yeah. 596 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,640 OK, I'm at the process like hanging out together. 597 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,200 Yeah, that's in the part that I didn't like. 598 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:25,240 I think we kind of covered it. 599 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,800 But do you think there was any like really big surprise or miss 600 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:30,600 out of season one? 601 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,120 The big surprise for me was Rick Rock West. Like, yeah. 602 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:34,960 A movie I've never heard of. 603 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,640 And it's one of my favorite films now. 604 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,560 That was a real quality win. 605 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,040 Boy, it's hard to think about like a loser that I wish could have gone forward. 606 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,640 I mean, like aside from just saying Primal Primal. Right. 607 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,560 But boy, there were some real, real good movies 608 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,800 that just didn't get a chance. Yeah. Unfortunately. 609 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:58,480 Yeah. And we've also had a really good year of movies that didn't make the bracket to. 610 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:03,360 Yeah. This year alone, he's had four movies already come out. 611 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,080 Yeah. It's got two more on the way. 612 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,640 Yeah, it's crazy. That's a lot of Nick Cage movies. 613 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:08,280 That's interesting. 614 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,880 Like what of the movies that have come out would you have liked to see on this list 615 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,760 that you think could probably go the distance? 616 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,040 OK, so we've seen the old way. 617 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,920 Old way retirement plan and sympathy for the devil for the devil. 618 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:25,200 We're going to watch butchers crossing and dream scenario scenario. Yeah. 619 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:26,800 Simply for the devil. 620 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,840 I would would I would probably put forward in a lot of matchups. 621 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,000 That was a really fun movie. I enjoyed it a lot. 622 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,640 It seems like if you could have swapped out like a dog eat dog or something 623 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,560 with that, that would have been a good fit. 624 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,240 Done well. Renfield's a lot of fun. 625 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:42,680 I put that probably. 626 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:47,440 I mean, Renfield and retirement plan both fit that kind of like fun, 627 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:51,240 just comedy, action, comedy or action like comedy, horror. 628 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,360 They're just fun, enjoyable movies. 629 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,600 And honestly, that's great. 630 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,440 I love to have those and they're perfectly timed. 631 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,640 They don't take up your whole weekend. 632 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,120 They're not rewatching the Lord of the Rings or anything. Right. 633 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,240 And then the old way is just bad. 634 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,320 It does have Clinton Howard going, 635 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,280 oh, my balls. 636 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:14,800 We love you, Clint Howard. 637 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,520 Come hang out with us. Be on our podcast. 638 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,000 Yeah. Tell us about Nick Cage. 639 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,120 Or just tell us about your life as Clint Howard or your balls. 640 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:22,360 I don't know. 641 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,560 On that note, though, like in terms of guests, I think for me, 642 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,120 I feel like guests really bring a really fun element to this entire thing. 643 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,720 Yeah. And I'm really pleased with everybody that we had on. 644 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:36,920 And I'm excited that in season two, we're going to have a huge amount of guests 645 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,280 on basically every episode. 646 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,280 A huge amount of guests, a lot of new guests and a lot of returning guests. 647 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:43,920 Yeah. So it's going to be a lot of fun. 648 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,120 I think we're going to get some some good new takes 649 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:50,800 for the second trip around the bracket as we go from 32 to 16 to the sweet 16. 650 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,840 Get sued for that. For what? Sweet 16 now. 651 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,920 We could call it the slick 16 slick 16. 652 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,480 Yeah. What's the elite? The slicks teen. 653 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,040 God, it sounds gross. 654 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,080 It feels gross in my mouth. 655 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,560 It feels oily. I don't like it. 656 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,800 Yeah. Yeah. So our round of slicks teen. 657 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,200 Mm hmm. Oh, we are going to we're embracing that. 658 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,000 What about the elite eight? How do we turn that gross? 659 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,720 Well, I don't know. We'll get there when we get there. 660 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:19,800 We'll get there when we get there. 661 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,480 We can yuck a lot of yums. 662 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,880 How is this like affected your life outside of this podcast? 663 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:30,000 Because this is a large committed thing we've done at my job. 664 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,320 I am the Nick Cage guy now. 665 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:36,360 Yeah. My big change is just thinking about how much time in a week 666 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:40,840 I spend working on the posters, working on editing, doing the recordings, 667 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:42,920 watching the next movies coming up. 668 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,440 And, you know, I think we said it on our episode with Darryl, 669 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,600 but watching any movie that doesn't have Nick Cage in it, 670 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,080 I'm always like something feels off. 671 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:51,800 And it's like, yeah, there's a missing element. 672 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,520 There's a missing element. And it's those nasal labial folds. 673 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,640 God, I love his nasal labial folds. 674 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,680 Oh, what is it? I just saw Horn before I came here. 675 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,240 And he's like, do you still think Nick Cage is a good actor? 676 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:03,640 I mean, he's the best actor. 677 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:04,600 He's like, I still don't buy it. 678 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:09,680 I'm like, watch 64 of his films in 14 months and then tell me he's not great. 679 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,520 Nick, how's it impacted you? 680 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,920 I have homework at this point. 681 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:16,480 Yeah, that's fair. 682 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:21,840 I was never actually like accused of having terrific taste in movies and life. 683 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,320 So this it's right up my alley. 684 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:29,360 And we now are the proud owners of a poster that Peter got us 685 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:34,360 to commemorate the end of our season of all of his amazing Photoshop work. 686 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,600 Yeah. Thank you, Peter, for doing that. 687 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,600 You're welcome. That was not really something we discussed going into this. 688 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,520 It's kind of just a thing you we like we discussed doing the face off one. 689 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,160 And then you just kind of ran with it. 690 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,640 Yeah, it just ended up being a thing that I did for every episode. 691 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:52,640 And they're all amazing, especially once you realize people 692 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,960 actually look and listen to us. Yeah. 693 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,560 Then you're the amount of time you spent on it definitely went up. 694 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,120 The effort went up. Yeah. 695 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,600 My favorite part was always finding the fonts for close fonts to. Yeah. 696 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,520 You crush it on the nerd. Yeah, dude. 697 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,160 Hey, typography is hot. Yeah. 698 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,920 I'm still looking forward to seeing the finished kickass one of the font. 699 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,120 Oh, it's good. It looks good. 700 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,720 It's hard to read the words cage match because they block a lot of it. 701 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,240 But could be a lot of things underneath our bodies. 702 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:28,080 Yeah. So anything that you guys are really looking forward to for season two or? 703 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:32,040 No, part of the change up for season two is Nick and I are going to 704 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:33,640 actually watch these movies together. 705 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,560 Yeah, which we've had limited opportunity, mostly in our like bonus 706 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,200 episodes to be able to do this. 707 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,960 So we're going to actually get to it like experiences in a more 708 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,160 like social enjoyable way. Yeah. 709 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:48,720 Which I think will add some new light to ways of interacting with and enjoying 710 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,800 these films. Yeah. And we're going to have like Nick said, 711 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,960 we're going to have a lot of fresh blood in terms of guests. 712 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,080 So they're going to bring some new energy and new outlooks and opinions on 713 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,920 on all these things that we have now spent five days, one hour and 49 minutes. 714 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:01,600 That's a good start. 715 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,520 We're going to have to explain this to our creator one day. 716 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,240 Are you talking about me? Yes. 717 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,720 I understand you're forgiven. 718 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,480 And just thank you to everyone who listens. 719 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,480 I mean, we'd still probably be doing this if you weren't there. 720 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,400 Our lives aren't that interesting outside of this. 721 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:17,800 But it does make a difference. 722 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,880 Like if we if we were having lower numbers or people weren't 723 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,080 giving us positive feedback and saying that they actually enjoy this, like, 724 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,720 I don't know that we would have tried as hard. 725 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,280 We would definitely be more inebriated on a regular basis. 726 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,320 Yeah. Instead of just a semi regular basis. 727 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,040 Yeah. And semi inebriated. 728 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,800 And thank you to all of our all of our patrons. 729 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,560 Exactly. Our Sparkle buddies, Josh, Sean, Josie, Rico, Matt and Adam 730 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:44,400 and our cage dancers, Ira, John, Freeman and Lance. 731 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:45,880 We really do appreciate that. 732 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,680 If you guys want to support us at all, it's patreon.com slash cage match. 733 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,760 Also, for people who aren't patrons yet, Meredith, I know you got a promotion. 734 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,640 Fucking throw five dollars at us. 735 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:56,840 We are going to get better equipment. 736 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:57,600 So that's a help. 737 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,920 The judge says you have to pay me five dollars a month. 738 00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:03,360 Yeah, we're just five dollars short of better equipment, Meredith. 739 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,920 Yeah, you just throw in five dollars more. 740 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,200 Meredith. Yeah, thank you all. 741 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:13,840 And if you want to interact with us and post comments down below the folder, 742 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,800 whatever the fuck Nick says, you can find Instagram at cage 743 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,800 underscore match underscore pod or read it at cage match pod. 744 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:22,400 Those are the places you can find us. 745 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,400 Please like and subscribe and enjoy season two. 746 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,160 I hope it's as fun as we think it's going to be. 747 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,440 I don't. I hope to drive you all away. 748 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,800 Good. We'll see who wins. 749 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,200 Primal. Bye bye. 750 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,400 Oh, I now I'll save that for when we recap 751 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:53,680 when we do it again, because I have new theories on why they did that. 752 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,720 Oh, that's good audio. Thanks for sharing that. Excellent. 753 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,880 I mean, Peter can cut that. 754 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,800 I was thinking about this for sure. 755 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,640 I was thinking about that in the shower this morning. 756 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,040 And I'm like, oh, this will be interesting. 757 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:05,400 Ah, penis swap technology. 758 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:06,960 Like I figured out why the government would do. 759 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,040 I also think about things Peter can cut while I'm in the shower. 760 00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:13,400 You should probably edit that. 761 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:14,400 Take a second run at that. 762 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,480 No, I'm going to slam that together in the worst way. 763 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,560 Oh, yeah. Yeah, baby.