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Oh, God. Oh, my God.

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This is just so I could choose my options.

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We wanted to give you all the flavor choices.

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What if I wanted a suicide?

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Oh, you could do on a pint glass.

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That sounds awesome.

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Yeah, I mean, I don't give a fuck.

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Yeah, OK.

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I mean, we'll finish them all at some point, anyways.

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Absolutely.

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Or I'll just have like four suicides.

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You can only do the math.

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You can only do one suicide as far as I know.

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That's not how I've been working it.

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Yeah, fuck it. I'll do it.

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That's a weird place to join the conversation.

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We'll do that. And then we'll start talking about his painless.

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OK, brings on many changes.

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We're going to have a good.

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And leave it if.

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Oh, shit, you're doing all four.

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That's a suicide, baby.

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I didn't do all the flavors.

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I mean, I kind of want to.

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I don't want to go upstairs again.

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Sucker.

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You missed your chance.

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You didn't understand what a suicide was.

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Did you have a childhood?

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Oh, I thought we were just talking about killing ourselves for for our glorious God.

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Like a regular childhood.

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Did you guys did you notice that in matchstick men it was the oh, God?

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Yeah.

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Oh, God.

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That's where that's.

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Did you know where that was from?

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No.

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I think honestly, my favorite quotes from Nick Cage and matchstick

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man is just going to end up being him being like, oh, oh.

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You know what my favorite quote was?

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Welcome back to cage matchup roundabout way of meeting Nicholas Cage.

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Yeah, I'm just going to make it weirder from now on.

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Deal with it, Nick.

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Do it backwards next time.

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You're not not Colin.

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Nice. I'm your host, Sean, here with my co-host.

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I'm Nick and our producer.

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Hello, I'm Peter.

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Which episode is this?

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This is episode 30.

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Oh, yeah.

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We're almost done with round one.

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There are bracket style Nicholas Cage,

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where we're going to find out what the most cagey is.

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Nick Cage film is as decided by us.

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Some idiots in a basement.

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I don't get a lot of you put all four flavors in one cup.

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That's pretty good.

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You know what I'm most excited for for this conversation?

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Where that gets edited in.

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I'm going to leave it right there.

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That seems perfect.

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About what what else gets edited in around it?

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Well, you could talk about how sticky my end of the table is going to be.

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I mean, everything is sticky at this point.

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I spilled lime sparkle buddy all over everything already.

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So excellent.

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I'm glad I showered right before coming here.

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Yeah, there it is.

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Me too. Oh, it's everywhere.

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Yeah, it's hot out.

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We're in the basement.

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It's cooler here, but it's still not great.

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I don't know. This is actually pretty nice.

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This is very, very acceptable.

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I mean, we're going to hot mouth this thing for a little bit.

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Yeah. It'll be a different story.

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It's a good thing we all decided to take our pants off.

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Well, yeah, that is tradition.

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The real trick is never wear pants.

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I mean, this is how you know this is how you have a comfortable conversation

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with a group of guys in a basement.

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This week, we're in our comedy category discussing comedy

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in quotes, discussing matchstick men versus guarding tests.

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Anyway, so guarding tests.

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Let me take that again.

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Guarding tests, guarding tests, guarding tests,

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good in this.

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Oh, I like that.

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I watched a lot of Telemundo as a kid.

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You can tell because of how Japanese that accent sounds.

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I didn't watch TV. I don't know what people are.

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This is going to be one of those episodes.

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Yeah, we're nailing it so far.

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So guarding tests are a Nicholas Cage as Secret Service agent

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Doug Chesnick and Shirley MacLean is former First Lady Tess Carlisle.

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And yeah, huge pain in the ass.

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Former First Lady, huge pain in the ass.

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Yeah. So the whole premise of this film is Nicholas Cage is

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Secret Service security for former first lady.

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He's done his three year stint.

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He's going to go back to Washington.

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He wants to guard the president, but she wants him back.

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Not because she likes him or anything, just because she's kind of a bitch.

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But then maybe she likes him.

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But then she doesn't. But then maybe she does.

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Well, Tess is a lot like an ogre,

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which is to say she's like an onion, which is to say she has layers.

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And those layers are revealed to us over the course of 90 minutes with no lead in.

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I feel about as strongly about this movie as I do.

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Kind of anything.

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It's just I don't know.

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This movie, it's such a movie of 1994.

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Yeah. Like, let's talk about that.

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It's like 1994.

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It's times are a little bit slower.

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Comedy movies, action movies like they just have a different pace.

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It's like a Greek tragedy.

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It's just you watch it and you hate it,

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but you have to understand its historical relevance.

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Did you guys? That's actually a really good way of putting it.

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Did you guys look at that?

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Fuck you. I've been drinking the director and writer Hugh Wilson.

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Did you see what is one other big hit was blast from the past?

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Brendan Fraser. Oh, the Bumble Boy. Yeah.

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Yeah. I never watched that movie. I should watch it.

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Yeah. I'll give this guy 100% of my support.

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Gardening tests and blast from the past.

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There you go. Full coverage. Yep.

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This movie's fine.

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Yeah. It was definitely the weirdest romantic comedy I've watched this week.

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That you know what?

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The same can be said for both of these films.

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Yeah, that is true. I don't like that.

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Well, we're going to get into that.

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Yeah. So Nick Cage comes in.

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He is, as you said, the Secret Service agent covering test Carlisle.

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Her husband passed away.

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So it's just her.

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She's kind of become a recluse and it's become the dead end position

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for a lot of Secret Service agents like nobody wants this job.

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She's super difficult.

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Everyone else seems to be fine with the job because it's easy.

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And Nick Cage's character, Doug, he wants to be in the action.

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Well, yeah, I mean, like he used to guard her husband, the president.

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And now he feels like he's just getting shelved.

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And she doesn't ever really give him respect,

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you know, up until, you know, the beginning of this movie.

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She's just difficult.

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And it makes it hard for somebody who, like, really wants to

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make a career out of his life.

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They kind of have some backs and forth.

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So they argue he quits a couple of times.

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She manages to unquit him against his will numerous times.

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I can't quit you, Bob.

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Yeah. Through phone conversations with the president.

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And that's yeah, those are like some of the best comedy moments that I read.

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The president, Frederick or Frederick, the the nurse, the dietitian.

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He's the nurse. He's the living nurse.

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Gotcha. The hospice nurse or whatever.

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I liked him. Yeah, he was good, too.

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He was a Vernon from Harry Potter series.

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The oh, yeah, she was uncle. Yeah.

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And the president was voiced by the director of this film, Hugh Wilson,

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Hugh Wilson, which is not Rainn Wilson now.

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Or Luke Wilson. So I'm just going to.

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Or Owen Wilson.

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There we go. We got all the Wilsons.

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Wow. Brian Wilson.

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So for this film, I'm just going to say up front,

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there's not really a way to discuss the plot of this film

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in any roundabout way where we're just not going to spoil it.

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This movie's not got a lot going for it.

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It's a random series of events.

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They hate each other.

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They suddenly don't hate each other anymore because of whiskey, because of whiskey.

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Yeah, they kind of rebuild their relationship and she, you know,

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she actually starts to give a little she compromises.

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She opens up and kind of lets him into her world.

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So the crux of their relationship,

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as it's kind of described in the film is he's leaving.

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It is three years stint.

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She wants him to sign off for three more years.

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She has an operable brain cancer.

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Allegedly. Allegedly.

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It doesn't. It's not really a plot point is my kind of issue with it.

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Like, is this a film about an old lady who feels isolated

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and it has a hard time making friends and wants to have this connection

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with someone she deeply cares for, which doesn't seem to be the case until it is.

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Like, there's no build to them like having camaraderie.

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He quits and then gets yelled at by the president.

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To come back. She doesn't want him back.

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And then suddenly they're drinking buddies.

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Tess Carlisle, the character, is somebody who definitely like

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holds a lot of things to themselves.

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You see her connection to Nick Cage only through old movie,

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like film from like her president or her husband's days as president

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when he was guarding him.

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And really you see the connection at the footage from the funeral

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from the president where Nick Cage is visibly upset about the death of the president.

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And he died from a heart attack.

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It wasn't anything like Nick Cage's fault or anything.

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And she's keeping him around because emotionally he cared about the president

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as much as she did.

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So they have that common bond.

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See, this is why you keep me here for sensitive stuff.

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OK, here's the thing, because I had another read on that,

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because when they finally go and have their.

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Finger on something.

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When they finally go to have their drinks, their whiskey, she just straight up

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asks them, were you aware of my husband's infidelity?

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I'm like, oh, she just mad at him.

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No, no, no.

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I mean, I, I, I see your reading of it.

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And I agree with you, but like I don't feel like the relationship

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necessarily builds, but no, I, I miss that.

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So thank you.

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I mean, I'm, I'm seeing more subtext like this doesn't, it doesn't give you a lot

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to like grab on to for these relationships, even like the brain tumor thing, like

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that comes out in a moment where Nick Cage is pressuring her about something.

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She just comes out with like, I've got an inoperable brain tumor.

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And then she goes on to say two more things and she says, one of these things is true.

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Yeah. Which one is it?

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I bought all of your crew Scud missiles and we're going to go to the opera.

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Yeah. And then they did go to the opera.

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Was that things were true?

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Was that just because that's what Nick Cage thought was the truth or was it

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because she's dying and she's actually trying to get out and enjoy a little bit

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of her life?

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Peter and I kind of discussed this is just like that in and of itself

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is a really interesting movie.

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Person is dying and is trying to make a connection with the one

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constant person in their life.

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That's a cool movie.

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And the one person who they feel had like a good connection with their husband.

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That too, which deepens the connection.

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Yeah.

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The third act kidnapping twist kind of comes out of nowhere and makes his way

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and makes us a very different film all of a sudden.

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Yeah. They started to build it up earlier because Tess is so prone to like

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these acts of rebellion.

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She do a runner.

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Yeah. She just like does things despite her secret service, because

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whether she wants them there or not, I don't know.

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Yeah. But I don't think there's anything that's like

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necessarily out of place in this movie or pushing into like unnecessary.

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I would challenge you to cut 10.

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Yeah. Without like I could cutting anything.

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I can actually give you that.

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I think the presidential visit that gets canceled is about 10 minutes of content

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and it doesn't really serve anything.

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It shows like kind of how neglected she is, like and why she has the attitude

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she does towards Washington because she calls it a dying city.

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She talks about how no good like is where careers go to die.

255
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Look at her. She's been completely discarded.

256
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Her husband was the president of the U.S.

257
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and he's died and now she's just like this puppet piece that they like to put out there.

258
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The president was going to come and be a part of this dedication of a library

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or a charitable wing or something.

260
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And it just falls through.

261
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And at the last minute, who do they get?

262
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They get like a commerce chairman or secretary of transportation or whatever.

263
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It's like, I think ultimately I would have.

264
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Although Pete Buttigieg showed up to my thing, I'd be pretty cool.

265
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Yeah, that would be cool. Yeah.

266
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I mean, ultimately for me, I just I would have liked a little tighter

267
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focused narrative on their relationship because I think those are the main beats

268
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that they don't really build to each other.

269
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The threads pretty kind of thin. Yeah.

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And I mean, where I would cut is the visit from her son,

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which is about five minutes of could call her son, like just coming to like

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get her to invest in his shitty property and a property deal.

273
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And she just says no. And then later during their conversation, she was like,

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I'm not close to my kids.

275
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And what her son showing up as a one off scene didn't doesn't.

276
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I mean, it ties to Nick's point about like her loneliness and absolute.

277
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Yeah, just insolent like the disenfranchisement of the elderly.

278
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But then they talk about it later.

279
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I mean, and then they pork. Yeah.

280
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Again, we're going to talk about that.

281
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Mastic man. Yeah.

282
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What do you guys think of Shirley McLean's performance in this?

283
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She was good. She was annoying as fuck, which I guess is good.

284
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I mean, that's what she was going for. She irritated me.

285
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Yeah. I mean, she's I think she's supposed to.

286
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But as soon as like she warms up, she is quite likable.

287
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Yeah. She plays a salty old bitty pretty well.

288
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Yeah. I heard the term bitty forever.

289
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I saw that like and as soon as they have their one on one, like,

290
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I mean, that's where the turn is where she becomes really likable and kind of funny.

291
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Yeah, there's no bill to it.

292
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She's like, we're drinking buddies now.

293
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The next day she comes out of her room and she's kind of like,

294
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oh, everyone must be friends.

295
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Yeah. Her general demeanor towards the rest of the staff

296
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is strangely tied to how her relationship with Doug Chesnick goes.

297
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Yeah. But and that's kind of weird.

298
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I can understand like her and Frederick getting well her in the house staff.

299
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It really is Doug Chesnick, Secret Service detail of like seven people

300
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who you probably see two of at any given time.

301
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The driver, the.

302
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Who's part of the kidnappers. Yeah, the driver, the kid

303
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kitchen staff, the cook, the nurse and her secretary.

304
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I don't think we ever see her interact with the kitchen staff.

305
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She comes down in one scene. I mean, it's very, very.

306
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No, yeah, she just rolls through.

307
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But like in terms of acting, they don't see we we don't see her interact with anyone.

308
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But the driver and her yelling at her nurse to like putt.

309
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But the rest of them are just. Oh, no, that was her secretary.

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Secretary, but you can assume that because of her relationship with her secretary,

311
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when the secretary comes up to Doug Chesnick later and she's like, hey,

312
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she gave me a job when nobody else would.

313
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It's like she is a big, big hearted lady.

314
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Yeah. You know, she's just tough to get close to.

315
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And now she's just tougher because like her husband's gone.

316
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Yeah. No, I get it. I want nuance. Sure.

317
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I mean, this this movie does lack some of the finer touches.

318
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It could have been executed a little smoother.

319
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The relationships are kind of I fill in a lot myself.

320
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Yeah, there's a line, I think, in the sand between how much like relationship

321
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talk you can have before a movie moves from being a romantic comedy

322
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to just like a drama.

323
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I think what I wanted is a little more.

324
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It wasn't a romantic comedy. I want it.

325
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It should have been totally by the way.

326
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It should have been totally bowed down at the end.

327
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Did you not see the after credit?

328
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Sure. The wheelchair after credit. Yeah.

329
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Oh, boy. Nick Cage is in the wheelchair.

330
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She's like, put those brakes on.

331
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You're not going nowhere.

332
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I was I was wondering where the jokes were. OK, cool.

333
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Well, that's right.

334
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Speaking of his performance and geriatric sex.

335
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Yeah. What do you guys think of him as Chesnick?

336
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It's fine. Yeah, it's fine.

337
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It's not a breakout role, obviously.

338
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It was 94, 10 years after like his start.

339
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Like every performance in this film is very serviceable.

340
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If I'm thinking about it, it slots in really well with the like the roles

341
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he was getting at that time because we're pre 97.

342
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So he's not an action. He's not like a big A-list star yet.

343
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Hasn't won his Oscar.

344
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We're just kind of like a few years past like Birdie

345
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and some of his art. He sue. Yeah.

346
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His art stuff.

347
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Yeah, like with Peggy Sue and probably it could happen to you.

348
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It could happen to you.

349
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He's like right in that kind of like romantic lead.

350
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Right where he's like a little more restrained, but not totally.

351
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They still want some of his wild card.

352
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Wackiness. Yeah.

353
00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:42,480
Wacky. Yeah.

354
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He really doesn't have a big unhinged aspect on this one.

355
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No, I mean, he plays exasperated really well.

356
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Yeah, he's definitely like too old for this shit.

357
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But as far as like a Nicholas Cage performance,

358
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I don't think we have anything that like really screams like wild.

359
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No. Like I don't think it's a personal role for him.

360
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I agree with that.

361
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And I think what's telling is that not a lot stood out in terms of quotable content.

362
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Right. No, this like his portion of the script does not hold a whole lot.

363
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I struggled to find anything.

364
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I did find one just to have something ready.

365
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And it's when Tess is now suddenly happy and a pleasant person to be around.

366
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And they go grocery shopping because she's going to like have a dinner

367
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before the president cancels.

368
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And Doug is there with the store manager and he's communicating back and forth

369
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with another Secret Service agent who's with Tess.

370
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And Tess wants to know how much the price of peas are.

371
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So they have a back and forth.

372
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And it's what like 59 cents for like two for one.

373
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And she's like, what if I want one?

374
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And he just responds back with Bobby.

375
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It's two for it's a two for one thing.

376
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So I suggest you just go ahead and get both.

377
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Yeah. Like that's his one comedy line in this movie.

378
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Yeah, there really isn't a lot like in the end.

379
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Like he kind of gets with the doctor when she's leaving the hospital

380
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and the doctor is like, you have to leave like it's hospital protocol.

381
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You have to leave in a wheelchair.

382
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And Nick Cage is just like is showing his personal growth,

383
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being like, are the rules that sacred?

384
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And then he turns to Tess and he's just like

385
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getting the goddamn wheelchair.

386
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And that's growth on both sides.

387
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Like he's allowing.

388
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Yeah, he's compromising on the rules, but he's also like

389
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making this relationship where they can be this kind of candid together,

390
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which is kind of like that, you know, the the apex of their story.

391
00:18:51,460 --> 00:18:55,620
Yeah. Well, I mean, maybe him saving her from being buried alive

392
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is the apex of their story. Not that important.

393
00:18:58,400 --> 00:18:59,860
Yeah. Like she would have been all right.

394
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Give her the cancer story or give her the kidnapping story.

395
00:19:01,860 --> 00:19:03,960
It didn't mean both. Yeah, that's true.

396
00:19:04,260 --> 00:19:07,140
I mean, you needed some kind of inciting incident to make her

397
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want to change.

398
00:19:09,700 --> 00:19:13,000
And the cancer or tumor

399
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is kind of like what makes her want to.

400
00:19:18,980 --> 00:19:21,280
It's what changes her day to day life. Yeah.

401
00:19:22,020 --> 00:19:24,280
If this movie was only about the kidnapping,

402
00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:29,520
you could jump 60 minutes into the movie and just watch an episode.

403
00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,760
Well, then just have the relationship after the kidnapping,

404
00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:35,660
have the kidnapping be the second bit, have the relationship grill after that.

405
00:19:36,060 --> 00:19:38,860
I'm just saying there's a way to clean this up where it's more focused on

406
00:19:38,860 --> 00:19:42,440
their relationship, which is ultimately what I think this movie's supposed to be about.

407
00:19:42,660 --> 00:19:47,280
You write me a 90 page screenplay that I will.

408
00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,800
It'll be for the patrons. Yeah, I will.

409
00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:51,980
We'll do a we'll do a table read.

410
00:19:51,980 --> 00:19:54,380
Oh, oh, my God. It'll be you, me, Peter.

411
00:19:54,380 --> 00:19:57,120
And well, we've got to get Marissa. Oh, yeah.

412
00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,980
And she can go. She could be Tess.

413
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I was going to say, I had her be Frederick.

414
00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:02,920
Thank you, Frederick. Yeah.

415
00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:04,860
This sounds like a fun experiment.

416
00:20:04,860 --> 00:20:08,100
There's a podcast I like to listen to every once in a while with this guy,

417
00:20:08,100 --> 00:20:11,000
Kyle. Yeah, let's plug other podcasts on our podcast.

418
00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:12,060
There's nothing wrong with that.

419
00:20:12,060 --> 00:20:15,040
It's cross podcasting and it's called Never Seen It.

420
00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,500
And they better thank us for those seven extra views.

421
00:20:17,500 --> 00:20:19,980
They're going to love this uptick.

422
00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,580
But then they're going to realize they are Rico's listening to them.

423
00:20:23,580 --> 00:20:24,340
And they're not going to like.

424
00:20:24,340 --> 00:20:26,020
So they take a lot of you, Rico.

425
00:20:26,020 --> 00:20:27,580
Random comedians and people come on.

426
00:20:27,580 --> 00:20:30,480
Don't touch. They will have not seen a movie

427
00:20:30,620 --> 00:20:35,420
and then will have written a spec script based on what they think the movie's about.

428
00:20:35,660 --> 00:20:37,820
And then they perform it live on mic.

429
00:20:37,820 --> 00:20:39,860
And it's usually pretty fucking funny.

430
00:20:39,860 --> 00:20:41,160
That's good. This is a good concept.

431
00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:45,400
This is similar, not dissimilar to my idea of a cold open. True.

432
00:20:46,100 --> 00:20:50,740
Guarding Tess on the good cage, bad cage, good movie, bad movie,

433
00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,540
good, bad, bad, good, bad, bad, good, good, bad, good.

434
00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:55,740
Where do we put this one?

435
00:20:55,740 --> 00:21:02,020
I think this is just a flat line, medium performance, no standout.

436
00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:05,780
I don't know that he was given an inch on this one.

437
00:21:06,220 --> 00:21:07,480
The movie's fine.

438
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,260
I mean, it's good enough. I'm glad I watched it.

439
00:21:09,260 --> 00:21:11,620
Yeah, cinematically, I'm glad I saw it.

440
00:21:12,360 --> 00:21:14,600
It's very 1994, as you pointed out. Yeah.

441
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,860
I mean, yeah, didn't really think about it in that respect.

442
00:21:16,860 --> 00:21:20,300
And when you said like, this is just what comedies were like at the time.

443
00:21:20,300 --> 00:21:21,760
And what? You know what? You're right.

444
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,240
They were simpler times.

445
00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,740
Yeah, it is the pre-Ranchi comedy.

446
00:21:26,340 --> 00:21:26,940
It is weird, though.

447
00:21:26,940 --> 00:21:31,240
You think about the pacing difference between a movie from the mid 90s

448
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,640
versus what we get now, like ours are so frenetic.

449
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,920
Fast pace, two hours. I'm struggling.

450
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:39,520
Someone would have fucked that old lady.

451
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:46,360
The last comedy I went to was like completely excluding all comic book movies.

452
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,460
I mean, for me, it would be Barbie.

453
00:21:48,460 --> 00:21:49,860
Sure. Yeah.

454
00:21:49,860 --> 00:21:52,420
Yeah, I haven't been out in a couple of weeks.

455
00:21:52,420 --> 00:21:54,760
So how about we talk about Mastiff Man? Sure.

456
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,700
So 2000. That's right.

457
00:21:56,700 --> 00:21:59,960
I can segue motherfucker for 2003.

458
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:01,100
Three. OK.

459
00:22:01,100 --> 00:22:03,840
So the year I graduated high school. Same. Yeah.

460
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,720
Yeah. You graduate high school.

461
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,020
2002. Yeah.

462
00:22:07,020 --> 00:22:08,520
Oh, look at Mr. Smarty Pants.

463
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,280
Slightly. Look at Mr.

464
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,060
Look at Mr. Didn't fail the first grade over here.

465
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,600
Oh, loser. Yeah, I failed communion.

466
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,660
Communion as a Catholic.

467
00:22:20,660 --> 00:22:22,460
Did you just not get the wafer?

468
00:22:22,460 --> 00:22:23,860
Like, did it not go in the mouth?

469
00:22:23,860 --> 00:22:24,900
No, the nuns were.

470
00:22:24,900 --> 00:22:27,640
So did you have to were you raised? Oh, yeah.

471
00:22:27,660 --> 00:22:31,700
OK, you went to like the class that preceded. Absolutely.

472
00:22:31,700 --> 00:22:36,180
So the nuns were concerned by my behavior because

473
00:22:37,180 --> 00:22:39,480
when they asked us to draw pictures and stuff,

474
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this is straight from my mother.

475
00:22:42,220 --> 00:22:45,920
I was drawing pictures of children doing bad things,

476
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,760
like a picture of a kid breaking dishes.

477
00:22:48,860 --> 00:22:52,620
And then I would draw a picture of a kid like pushing somebody over.

478
00:22:52,860 --> 00:22:58,460
It's like I only like would draw like pictures of disobedience.

479
00:22:58,460 --> 00:23:02,120
So I was not allowed to pass communion.

480
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,120
I get that that would be a red flag.

481
00:23:04,120 --> 00:23:07,020
It seems like a bad reason to not let you get communion.

482
00:23:07,020 --> 00:23:09,460
Oh, it's a good that to bad people.

483
00:23:09,460 --> 00:23:12,440
It's a continuing like pattern with me.

484
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,640
Like I failed hunter safety.

485
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,740
The whole reason you get communion is so you can have those spots and it's OK.

486
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,320
I wasn't even allowed to get to the point

487
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,640
where I could was up for communion.

488
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,740
Sean's not allowed in church.

489
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,020
You're not wrong. So my Sunday.

490
00:23:32,020 --> 00:23:34,020
I was a boner thing, isn't it?

491
00:23:34,020 --> 00:23:36,020
It 100 percent is.

492
00:23:36,020 --> 00:23:38,760
I went to Sunday school all of three times.

493
00:23:39,260 --> 00:23:44,200
And the third time after the third, the after the third mass, after Sunday school,

494
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:48,760
my Sunday school teacher asked my parents that I not return

495
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:54,100
because at the ripe age of six, I had questions.

496
00:23:54,100 --> 00:23:59,280
About the feasibility of like the Garden of Eden, how many people came out of it?

497
00:23:59,980 --> 00:24:02,740
The transubstantiation, transubstantiation.

498
00:24:02,740 --> 00:24:05,380
Also, I was really into animals at the time,

499
00:24:05,380 --> 00:24:09,720
so I knew like what continents animals lived on and for them, like to all

500
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,420
for them to be two by two on one arc didn't make sense to me.

501
00:24:12,420 --> 00:24:16,960
And it wasn't so much that I had questions, it's that I had follow up questions.

502
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,500
Yeah, those are the ones that they usually don't plan for.

503
00:24:20,500 --> 00:24:24,800
Other kids started asking questions because of my questions.

504
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,600
And rather than, you know, trying to indoctrinate me,

505
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,500
they were just like, get the fuck out of here.

506
00:24:29,500 --> 00:24:35,040
So you and I have two entirely different methods of inciting rebellion.

507
00:24:35,540 --> 00:24:40,520
You're going to try to like inspire the people and I'm just going to start a fire.

508
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:44,780
I mean, I'm mostly trying to both are effective subtleties on both ends.

509
00:24:44,780 --> 00:24:47,060
Yeah, this is what we're friends. Yeah.

510
00:24:47,060 --> 00:24:50,340
Do you smell smoke? I am really good at burning things.

511
00:24:50,340 --> 00:24:52,340
We both just want to burn it all down.

512
00:24:52,340 --> 00:24:53,940
You're trying to burn it all down.

513
00:24:53,940 --> 00:24:56,480
I'm trying to get other people to burn it down for me. Yeah.

514
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,340
So were you not a Pangea guy?

515
00:25:01,340 --> 00:25:04,020
Yeah. One continent, bro. Yeah.

516
00:25:04,020 --> 00:25:05,420
Yeah. One love.

517
00:25:06,220 --> 00:25:08,680
Not not when the Bible happened.

518
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,560
Why not? Because humans aren't that old.

519
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,120
Listen, dude, you can have a little

520
00:25:14,120 --> 00:25:18,100
continent shift real quick. I'm it's like surfing.

521
00:25:18,100 --> 00:25:19,900
I'm from San Francisco.

522
00:25:19,900 --> 00:25:21,860
I know. Surfing USA.

523
00:25:21,860 --> 00:25:25,140
You just take that tectonic plate all the way over, baby.

524
00:25:25,140 --> 00:25:26,500
Ride that wave.

525
00:25:26,500 --> 00:25:28,640
That's what the Beach Boys were really singing about.

526
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,140
The breakup of the Pangea continent.

527
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,940
It happened in 1915.

528
00:25:36,940 --> 00:25:41,320
Which is why we were able to have a world war shortly after.

529
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,220
Yeah. New world. This makes sense.

530
00:25:44,220 --> 00:25:46,720
Otherwise, it would have just been a Pangea war.

531
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,300
Fuck it. If it's Pangea, it's technically a civil war.

532
00:25:50,300 --> 00:25:52,120
It's all one. It's all one landmass.

533
00:25:52,120 --> 00:25:53,800
That's right. New world.

534
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,460
Just like tomatoes.

535
00:25:55,460 --> 00:25:58,640
What? They're a new world like crop.

536
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,180
Yeah. Go back to our episode with Darrell.

537
00:26:02,180 --> 00:26:04,780
Darrell, where you were talking about watermelons.

538
00:26:04,780 --> 00:26:06,180
It was watermelons. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

539
00:26:06,180 --> 00:26:07,740
Well, that is to wait.

540
00:26:07,740 --> 00:26:09,220
Way to call back your

541
00:26:09,220 --> 00:26:11,940
own joke. Yeah, it's a good one. You can self reference.

542
00:26:11,940 --> 00:26:14,620
Nobody else is going to reference my jokes.

543
00:26:14,620 --> 00:26:17,180
I have to be the one to point out how clever they are.

544
00:26:17,180 --> 00:26:19,780
I mean, some people still listen to us. Hi, Lance.

545
00:26:19,780 --> 00:26:22,100
Yeah, we have a new patron, a new cage dancer.

546
00:26:22,100 --> 00:26:24,420
Thank you, Lance. We'll talk about that later.

547
00:26:24,420 --> 00:26:26,300
He doesn't get his moment till the end.

548
00:26:26,300 --> 00:26:27,500
You can get a double dip.

549
00:26:27,500 --> 00:26:30,060
I had a very like heart to heart.

550
00:26:30,060 --> 00:26:33,240
Well, not heart to heart, but like face to face conversation with him.

551
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,580
And we talked about like the show and did you talk?

552
00:26:36,580 --> 00:26:39,440
Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.

553
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,780
He and I talked about that's part of the cage dancer tier.

554
00:26:42,780 --> 00:26:44,640
Oh, it's like you get to talk with me.

555
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,440
Wait, do you have a foreskin?

556
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,780
I 3D printed one.

557
00:26:48,780 --> 00:26:51,580
Smart. Yeah. You just slide it on the tip.

558
00:26:51,580 --> 00:26:55,020
Yeah, because I mean, honestly, I think that's kind of my whole like

559
00:26:55,020 --> 00:26:57,120
shtick and our friend group.

560
00:26:57,120 --> 00:26:59,560
Your shtick is your foreskin.

561
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,600
Dick is I still have my turtleneck.

562
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:02,600
That's true.

563
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,280
I so rarely like to talk about my

564
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:11,340
I so rarely make Nick like turn from the microphone to like snicker.

565
00:27:11,340 --> 00:27:15,980
80% of that was me burping because I don't do that on my.

566
00:27:15,980 --> 00:27:17,880
Well, fart on Mike, but I will not burp.

567
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,880
Why can't you let me have this neck?

568
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,480
Yeah, why is one gas better than the other?

569
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,780
Ask gas rhymes.

570
00:27:25,780 --> 00:27:27,120
All right. Everybody knows rhymes.

571
00:27:27,120 --> 00:27:28,720
Listen, man, I can't argue with that.

572
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:29,600
Rhymes rule.

573
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,960
Ask gas.

574
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,100
Ask and gas do rhyme.

575
00:27:33,100 --> 00:27:35,260
I can confirm. All right.

576
00:27:35,260 --> 00:27:39,300
As two native English speakers.

577
00:27:39,300 --> 00:27:43,200
Matchstick man, Nick Cage as Roy.

578
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:48,940
I couldn't tell because the pizza guy says Walker and he corrects him and says Waller.

579
00:27:48,940 --> 00:27:51,020
I was just looking at what I wrote down.

580
00:27:51,020 --> 00:27:52,860
I'm like, that doesn't look like a name.

581
00:27:52,860 --> 00:27:57,460
And the cage is a con man with extreme OCD

582
00:27:57,460 --> 00:28:03,160
who reconnects with his long lost daughter, Angela, played by Allison Loman.

583
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,960
And Sam Rockwell is Nick Cage's protege.

584
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,340
That's what I was thinking of Frank Mercer.

585
00:28:09,340 --> 00:28:13,940
So to comment on and about trying to get that one last big score

586
00:28:13,940 --> 00:28:18,680
that is all mixed up when Nick Cage finds his long lost daughter.

587
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,280
Directly by Ridley Scott.

588
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,480
And this is not Ridley Scott's best movie.

589
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,480
Definitely not monetarily.

590
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:29,320
Before we talk about like the rest of that, how about that editing?

591
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:35,060
Like all those fades, the wipes and the weird the intro credits.

592
00:28:35,060 --> 00:28:37,200
Oh, no, like in the movie.

593
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,700
No, there's like weird wipes that go on like transitioning from scenes.

594
00:28:41,700 --> 00:28:44,140
There's weird slow motion things that happen.

595
00:28:44,140 --> 00:28:46,280
It's like did Zack Snyder.

596
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:47,880
It's recut. It's crazy, man.

597
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,540
And like the Hans Zimmer score paired along with that.

598
00:28:50,540 --> 00:29:01,080
Do you do? Oh, do you do? Do you do? Do you do? Do you do? Do you do?

599
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:05,080
Do you do? Do you do? Do you do?

600
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,320
Baby's first procreate project.

601
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,920
Yeah. Yeah. Take that Ridley Scott.

602
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,500
All the names are just bouncing off the side of the screen

603
00:29:13,500 --> 00:29:16,400
like a fucking 90s Windows screen saver.

604
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,940
Like a DVD player logo.

605
00:29:19,940 --> 00:29:23,640
I could not figure out why that was what they went with for that.

606
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,400
Like it doesn't make any sense other than the fact that it's like

607
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,240
overlaid on his pool. Is that it?

608
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,880
No, I don't know. It blows.

609
00:29:35,020 --> 00:29:36,220
On Mike, really?

610
00:29:36,220 --> 00:29:38,280
Nick, rude.

611
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:39,620
Why would you do that?

612
00:29:39,620 --> 00:29:42,680
Face gas on Mike.

613
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,060
Aimful. That doesn't even rhyme.

614
00:29:45,060 --> 00:29:47,100
No more no more suicides for you, Nick.

615
00:29:47,100 --> 00:29:50,700
Uh, pardon me. My mouth has been on all of these.

616
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:52,760
That's not true.

617
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,980
It's not. But it will be if you try to take them away from me.

618
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,380
Don't you dare touch this alcohol, sir.

619
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,240
So, OK, what do you think of this?

620
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:04,480
Well, our comment.

621
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,680
Ah, I enjoy Nick Cage.

622
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:09,580
I enjoy Sam Rockwell.

623
00:30:09,580 --> 00:30:13,760
What I did not enjoy is the severe.

624
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:17,800
And this might be existing as a millennial

625
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,300
in the year of our Lord 2023

626
00:30:21,660 --> 00:30:26,300
that I've watched a lot of adult documentaries about exactly this premise.

627
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,900
Whoa. No, Nicholas Cage.

628
00:30:30,900 --> 00:30:33,180
That's not a stepdaughter, bro.

629
00:30:33,180 --> 00:30:36,020
That's like, yeah, that's not his daughter daughter.

630
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:40,220
Well, not his daughter, but he thinks she is for the lion sheriff.

631
00:30:40,220 --> 00:30:43,420
Yeah, but I know she's not not during the parking parts.

632
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:45,520
He's definitely being caught.

633
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,020
I don't like their chemistry in this movie at all.

634
00:30:49,420 --> 00:30:52,660
Yeah, the fact that you could call it chemistry is probably the biggest issue.

635
00:30:52,660 --> 00:30:55,700
Right. Yeah, I'm not here to yuck.

636
00:30:55,700 --> 00:30:56,860
Anyone's young.

637
00:30:56,860 --> 00:30:59,460
I know you can be here to yuck that young.

638
00:30:59,540 --> 00:31:00,900
That's that's OK.

639
00:31:00,900 --> 00:31:05,740
You know, there there are consenting adults who like the like the little scene.

640
00:31:06,740 --> 00:31:08,840
Yeah, but not with their own kid.

641
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,780
And I mean, I don't think that's what they're going for,

642
00:31:10,780 --> 00:31:14,240
but that's definitely the feeling that is the vibe that comes across.

643
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,020
I was uncomfortable. Oh, man.

644
00:31:16,020 --> 00:31:19,880
All of it as somebody who doesn't like kids

645
00:31:20,860 --> 00:31:24,620
for the most part, especially when they get to this age,

646
00:31:24,620 --> 00:31:26,560
like she's playing 14 years old.

647
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:27,800
Oh, man.

648
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,160
If some 14 year old started like coming around my place

649
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:36,840
and being like, you're my dad, I'd be like, we are going to get DNA tests.

650
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:41,380
For sure. Like immediately, especially if I'm a con man by trade.

651
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,040
Like anybody comes up and says like, oh, there's that or nothing.

652
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:46,640
I wouldn't trust anybody.

653
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,680
I'm already very untrusting.

654
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:54,560
Yeah. And if you added in financial gain for not trusting people,

655
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,480
like I would never trust it.

656
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,900
No, it's it's so I'd wear a condom to record podcasts.

657
00:31:59,900 --> 00:32:02,700
I wouldn't trust you guys that much.

658
00:32:02,700 --> 00:32:04,700
Got it. Got a podcast safe.

659
00:32:04,700 --> 00:32:06,660
I wouldn't trust myself either.

660
00:32:06,660 --> 00:32:09,860
Do do do do do do do do do.

661
00:32:10,700 --> 00:32:13,840
I don't know. OK, so I don't know why this made me cut that part.

662
00:32:14,100 --> 00:32:18,040
Yeah, I don't know why this made me think of that, but you need to cut that part

663
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,840
but not cut this part. Right.

664
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,520
So when I was in Connecticut, I was with my brother

665
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,520
and we were talking about the song Riding Dirty.

666
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:29,560
Oh, fuck. Yeah.

667
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,560
What are riding dirty even mean?

668
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,760
Because I'm not thinking about you coming in here.

669
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,820
Go back to my previous statement. Fuck you.

670
00:32:37,620 --> 00:32:39,760
That statement that has been edited out of this podcast,

671
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,420
but this part has not been edited.

672
00:32:41,420 --> 00:32:43,600
But what the fuck is riding dirty? But stuff.

673
00:32:44,100 --> 00:32:47,460
They see me rolling the hate in.

674
00:32:47,500 --> 00:32:50,940
Yeah. Patrol and trying to catch me riding dirty.

675
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:52,940
What the fuck is that? That's a butt stuff.

676
00:32:52,940 --> 00:32:55,040
Gay butt stuff. Oh, OK.

677
00:32:55,340 --> 00:32:58,840
Well, now we're talking, which is what rappers are always like bragging about.

678
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,480
Yeah, they love talking about gay, but they're worried about being seen about it

679
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,120
because there's a weird only by haters.

680
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,080
That's true. They patrol in. Yeah.

681
00:33:10,420 --> 00:33:11,720
So in. None of this.

682
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,820
None of this is usable.

683
00:33:13,820 --> 00:33:15,060
Keep it all start fresh.

684
00:33:15,060 --> 00:33:16,900
No. Guarding tests.

685
00:33:16,900 --> 00:33:19,100
Grab the whole fucking episode.

686
00:33:19,100 --> 00:33:20,100
I'm going back to cage.

687
00:33:20,100 --> 00:33:21,100
Matt's going around about.

688
00:33:21,100 --> 00:33:22,140
We need it. Nicholas, Kate.

689
00:33:22,140 --> 00:33:22,740
I'm going to run back.

690
00:33:22,740 --> 00:33:24,600
I'm your host. And slam a beer.

691
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:25,940
Slam a beer. Come back.

692
00:33:25,940 --> 00:33:28,300
Yeah. We'll do another suicide. Yeah.

693
00:33:29,100 --> 00:33:30,780
That's for suicides.

694
00:33:30,780 --> 00:33:33,120
The maximum number of suicides.

695
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:34,080
There's only three of us.

696
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,420
I checked mathematically.

697
00:33:36,780 --> 00:33:41,520
OK, so Alison Loman, the like dad, daughter stuff is a little creepy.

698
00:33:41,620 --> 00:33:46,460
So undeniably, it's weird because we joke a lot about how like

699
00:33:46,860 --> 00:33:49,660
a 40 year old will play a teenager and that's weird.

700
00:33:50,260 --> 00:33:55,160
But somehow like she's 23, 23, 14, playing 14.

701
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,740
But it's like, no, you're an actress playing younger,

702
00:33:57,740 --> 00:33:59,680
but you actually look like a teenager.

703
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,780
And there's a lot of like Danny talk.

704
00:34:01,780 --> 00:34:03,740
And it's just I don't like any of it.

705
00:34:03,740 --> 00:34:08,780
Yeah, it's weird how she looked young.

706
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:10,820
I don't know what she looks like now.

707
00:34:10,820 --> 00:34:12,460
Probably less young.

708
00:34:12,460 --> 00:34:13,980
Well, her career is really weird.

709
00:34:13,980 --> 00:34:15,380
So she did this movie.

710
00:34:15,380 --> 00:34:18,800
She was in Flicka and then she did Drag Me to Hell.

711
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,300
And then beyond that, she's done like little bit parts.

712
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:22,520
I did like Drag Me to Hell.

713
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:23,300
Oh, I did, too.

714
00:34:23,300 --> 00:34:25,700
I haven't seen that since about 2000.

715
00:34:25,700 --> 00:34:27,040
Whenever it came. Yeah.

716
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,540
Like whenever it came out. Yeah.

717
00:34:28,540 --> 00:34:29,740
Kind of a good movie, though.

718
00:34:29,740 --> 00:34:34,400
Yeah. So here's my Drag Me to Hell story because I have.

719
00:34:35,700 --> 00:34:39,080
My buddies all went to go see Drag Me to Hell.

720
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:40,280
I wasn't there.

721
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,880
So this is actually a third party story.

722
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:48,260
But they all go, oh, it must have been like 2003

723
00:34:48,460 --> 00:34:52,460
because you had to be 18 because it was rated R.

724
00:34:52,660 --> 00:34:55,160
And they all show up at this movie.

725
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,160
My buddy Steve is only 17.

726
00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:59,800
Like he hasn't turned 18 yet.

727
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,400
He's got a nine.

728
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,260
2009 Drag Me to Hell.

729
00:35:03,260 --> 00:35:04,400
Jason Long.

730
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,540
Oh, no. What's the Jack the Ripper movie?

731
00:35:06,540 --> 00:35:08,900
Oh, from hell.

732
00:35:08,900 --> 00:35:10,600
Oh, OK. Never mind. Different movie.

733
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,340
Here's my from hell story.

734
00:35:12,340 --> 00:35:14,740
So my buddies all go keep all of that.

735
00:35:14,740 --> 00:35:17,580
Peter, the from hell story for Alison Loman.

736
00:35:17,620 --> 00:35:19,180
Yeah. That you're talking about.

737
00:35:19,180 --> 00:35:20,280
Who's not in that? Yeah.

738
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,280
Fuck her. We're not talking about her anymore.

739
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,980
No, that is my issue with matchstick men.

740
00:35:24,980 --> 00:35:29,820
Yeah. So they all go to see this movie and Steve's not old enough.

741
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:34,060
So everybody else still decides to go see from hell.

742
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,240
And Steve's only choice.

743
00:35:37,240 --> 00:35:39,540
He watches Corky Romano.

744
00:35:39,540 --> 00:35:41,240
Oh, that poor fuck.

745
00:35:41,240 --> 00:35:45,040
But his movie is like an hour shorter, so he gets done with it.

746
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,240
And then he just has to sit outside the theater for an hour.

747
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:52,440
Why didn't he just buy a ticket to Corky Romano and go into your theater?

748
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,640
That would be untruthful, Sean.

749
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:56,600
That's a con.

750
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:57,800
This is a flim flam.

751
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,680
This is why you're a fucking Leonardo, dude.

752
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,820
Hey, man, I'm just talking about Steve.

753
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:05,420
He watched Corky.

754
00:36:05,420 --> 00:36:10,220
He's the only person I've ever met who's seen that movie to any side in theaters.

755
00:36:10,260 --> 00:36:15,220
Dude, I saw that movie with like the worst case of the flu or pneumonia.

756
00:36:15,260 --> 00:36:18,500
Just like on syndication on Comedy Central.

757
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,200
And like I.

758
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,100
Wait, which one is Corky Romano?

759
00:36:22,100 --> 00:36:24,660
So it's it's it's like another pet detective movie.

760
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:26,760
Yeah, it was Chris.

761
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,400
Chris Caton. Is it?

762
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,980
Yeah. And he plays like a dude who's related to the mob,

763
00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:34,980
but is like a total fucking moron.

764
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,520
And I don't know, crimes happen around him.

765
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:43,420
And he manages to be a hero accidentally because he's fucking stupid.

766
00:36:44,260 --> 00:36:45,680
I forgot this movie existed.

767
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,520
Should we just watch the movie and do it?

768
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,760
You said you watched Corky Romano.

769
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,100
Yeah, no, that's it. Sam Rockwell.

770
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:54,100
What do you guys think?

771
00:36:54,100 --> 00:36:55,960
He is very much Sam Rockwell in this film.

772
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,060
He very much is.

773
00:36:57,060 --> 00:36:59,400
He has one. He has two performances.

774
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,400
It's this character or it's his character from the original Teenage

775
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:07,540
Meat and the Turtle film where he plays a teen who talks to a mutant rat.

776
00:37:07,940 --> 00:37:10,580
Third role, Moon, that movie fucking rules.

777
00:37:10,620 --> 00:37:12,880
Moon was a really good movie.

778
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,180
I've got no beef with Sam Rockwell as an actor,

779
00:37:16,260 --> 00:37:18,320
like to be completely across the board.

780
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:19,960
I forget about him.

781
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,920
But when I see him, I'm like, oh, it's Sam Rockwell.

782
00:37:23,020 --> 00:37:27,200
OK, I think that's a good distinction is I have no problem with Sam Rockwell's

783
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,500
acting, but I do forget about him.

784
00:37:29,500 --> 00:37:32,460
And Sam Rockwell is in a weird, almost Nick Cagey place

785
00:37:32,460 --> 00:37:35,600
where you're either going to see in a movie where like, wow, that was really good.

786
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,280
Or they just wanted Sam Rockwell.

787
00:37:38,540 --> 00:37:40,180
Yeah, the Hitchhiker's Guide movie.

788
00:37:40,180 --> 00:37:41,340
He's awful at it.

789
00:37:41,340 --> 00:37:43,480
He's full Sam Rockwell on that.

790
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:44,680
Everyone's awful in that movie.

791
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,780
Who was he? Choke was kind of the same thing.

792
00:37:46,780 --> 00:37:48,880
He was a Zafod Bebel Brox.

793
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,320
Oh, OK. But now that I think about it, I think the Hitchhiker's Guide movie,

794
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,160
I don't think any of them were in the same space at the same time.

795
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,200
Well, I think because no one has chemistry in that movie.

796
00:37:57,500 --> 00:37:58,860
Deschanel, Mostef.

797
00:37:58,860 --> 00:38:01,260
I mean, these people, these are all like dynamic actors.

798
00:38:01,260 --> 00:38:04,260
Yeah, they do not act well together.

799
00:38:04,260 --> 00:38:06,060
Alan Rickman.

800
00:38:06,060 --> 00:38:10,340
Yeah, are you trying to tell me that Alan Rickman wasn't on set with everybody?

801
00:38:10,340 --> 00:38:12,080
He was in the suit.

802
00:38:12,380 --> 00:38:14,480
What about the voice of the doors?

803
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,760
Oh, they were there.

804
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,520
Yeah, every time it was you.

805
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,760
Yeah, it was. You caught me.

806
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,060
I'm self promoting.

807
00:38:22,060 --> 00:38:23,400
We have to talk about this movie.

808
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,520
We can't have another episode where we don't talk about the movie.

809
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,060
Well, we're like three for three at this point.

810
00:38:28,060 --> 00:38:30,840
All right. We can have another episode where we don't talk about the movie.

811
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,300
So long as we talk about one movie, we're pretty good, right?

812
00:38:33,300 --> 00:38:36,380
Yeah. No, I mean, we make an arbitrary decision and nobody cares.

813
00:38:36,380 --> 00:38:38,200
It's a mild heist film.

814
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,680
They are career con men.

815
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:45,040
Nicholas Cage doesn't go for long cons. Sam Rockwell has one set up.

816
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:50,820
Nicholas Cage, hyper OCD, drops his medicine down the garbage disposal

817
00:38:50,820 --> 00:38:56,700
and his his shady anxiety drug dealer has skipped town.

818
00:38:56,700 --> 00:38:59,920
So Sam Rockwell sets him up with a therapist.

819
00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:04,960
He starts going to therapy, remembers he has like thinks about the kid he never raised.

820
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,700
Therapist finds the kid, meets the kid.

821
00:39:07,700 --> 00:39:09,100
He gets conned.

822
00:39:09,100 --> 00:39:13,140
I mean, the bigger question then is, did you guys pick up on the con?

823
00:39:13,140 --> 00:39:14,340
Yes, 100 percent.

824
00:39:14,340 --> 00:39:17,540
As soon as the daughter showed up like, oh, she's playing him.

825
00:39:17,540 --> 00:39:22,180
Yeah. And the mark, I was just like, all right, he's in on it.

826
00:39:22,180 --> 00:39:26,020
And the therapist was in on it. Sam Rockwell caught me off guard.

827
00:39:26,020 --> 00:39:29,460
Ultimately, it made the most sense that he'd be the mastermind.

828
00:39:29,460 --> 00:39:36,000
But they kind of play him so safe throughout that again, forgetting about some rockwell,

829
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:40,660
I kind of forgot he was a player in this film until he was ultimately the villain.

830
00:39:40,660 --> 00:39:45,280
I think the scene where they show up at Nick Cage's place

831
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:51,980
and they do like the final bit of the con where they get him

832
00:39:51,980 --> 00:39:57,280
was the best, most well orchestrated part of the movie.

833
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:04,320
Everything that happened with Nick Cage and the daughter leading up to that felt pretty

834
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:09,160
clumsy and honestly fucking uncomfortably cringy.

835
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:10,400
Yeah, agreed.

836
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:15,500
Well, as also somebody who doesn't have children and intends to have no children.

837
00:40:15,500 --> 00:40:20,300
I thought the scene at his place was really the best.

838
00:40:20,300 --> 00:40:27,040
Yeah. I thought that's where everybody sold their elements of the con the best.

839
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:32,580
Like you come in, the the mark, they've been sticking this guy

840
00:40:32,580 --> 00:40:38,420
for like a money laundering scheme and they did a briefcase trade.

841
00:40:38,420 --> 00:40:43,500
He figured it out, didn't run off, ended up back at Nick Cage's place

842
00:40:43,500 --> 00:40:46,700
with Sam Rockwell, who's who he's abducted.

843
00:40:46,700 --> 00:40:54,300
And so Nick comes into this place with his daughter after a very rough con.

844
00:40:54,300 --> 00:40:58,140
And Sam Rockwell is like beat up.

845
00:40:58,140 --> 00:40:59,580
He's bloodied.

846
00:40:59,580 --> 00:41:02,620
Gets an ashtray thrown at his head. Yeah.

847
00:41:02,620 --> 00:41:04,680
The who played the mark?

848
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,080
Oh, for sure. Bruce McGill.

849
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:11,760
OK, so Bruce McGill's character, he has a gun.

850
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,620
He's got everybody contained.

851
00:41:13,620 --> 00:41:21,700
And you just see the the everybody's got like a reason to be anxious.

852
00:41:21,700 --> 00:41:28,140
And yes, like in most of this movie, there's very low emotional stakes.

853
00:41:28,140 --> 00:41:32,980
For a movie about like conning people, it seems very lighthearted

854
00:41:32,980 --> 00:41:35,940
up until this scene where it's obviously gone wrong.

855
00:41:35,940 --> 00:41:41,320
And I don't everybody plays it so well because Nick Cage is the only one

856
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,660
who's not a part of it at this point.

857
00:41:43,660 --> 00:41:48,260
And Sam Rockwell had orchestrated this whole thing.

858
00:41:48,260 --> 00:41:55,300
They have an imaginary Mark who we know is in on it because of how he references

859
00:41:55,300 --> 00:41:58,340
things with like tracking down the daughter.

860
00:41:58,340 --> 00:42:02,240
Well, it was never actually his daughter, so they couldn't have tracked her down

861
00:42:02,240 --> 00:42:06,380
that way through the mom and everything to find Nick Cage's connection.

862
00:42:06,380 --> 00:42:08,480
It's just I don't know.

863
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:13,680
It was the tightest part of the script, and it's probably what they based

864
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,820
the entire movie off of. Absolutely.

865
00:42:15,820 --> 00:42:17,860
Making this spin.

866
00:42:17,860 --> 00:42:23,560
So there is one thing pre the final con is

867
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:27,960
clearly Sam Rockwell was planning this for his characters, planning for longer,

868
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,840
because in the opening scenes, when a cage like takes his daily pill,

869
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:36,880
goes through his like uno dos tre, like his own total.

870
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,380
Yeah. Or whatever it is. Repetitions.

871
00:42:39,380 --> 00:42:42,880
It was Italian. He takes and then he does it in Japanese as well.

872
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,880
But he like he takes it. He always takes a pill in the morning.

873
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,880
When you finally see the pills, when they're dropping down the sink,

874
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,880
they look like Benadryl. They are Benadryl.

875
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:55,900
Yeah. So it seems like Sam Rockwell's been setting them up for even longer

876
00:42:55,900 --> 00:42:58,900
with another doctor that got him those pills. Right.

877
00:42:58,900 --> 00:43:04,400
It leads into that like stress anxiety mode of needing to get this new doctor

878
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,900
figured out because the other doctor was also under the table.

879
00:43:06,900 --> 00:43:10,900
Well, yeah, he establishes that like he was getting his prescription illegally

880
00:43:10,900 --> 00:43:14,920
previously. And this new doctor is like, I'm not going to give you pills

881
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,920
until you tell me like why you need them, which is drilling the pills.

882
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:22,920
Why you need them, which is drilling Nicholas Cage for information about

883
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:26,920
former relationships and finds out that he had a child he never raised.

884
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,920
Yeah. It's a lot of leaps of faith in terms of a con.

885
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:33,940
But as a con man, you think you'd ask a question or two.

886
00:43:33,940 --> 00:43:38,940
But if you look at it from the film of like a like through the lens of like

887
00:43:38,940 --> 00:43:41,940
a heist film, it's on point. It's a decent.

888
00:43:41,940 --> 00:43:44,940
They give you all the information leading up to it.

889
00:43:44,940 --> 00:43:47,940
And then you have to connect the dots at the very end.

890
00:43:47,940 --> 00:43:51,940
Dick move, though, is there's the confrontation at the house.

891
00:43:51,940 --> 00:43:53,440
A shot is fired.

892
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:58,460
His daughter shoots the the mark, the mark who was holding them hostage.

893
00:43:58,460 --> 00:44:02,160
And then Nick Cage sends Sam Rockwell off with the daughter, be like,

894
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:06,160
take her home, get the fuck out of the country, comes back inside.

895
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:07,500
Guy's not there anymore.

896
00:44:07,500 --> 00:44:12,660
The kids gets cold clocked and then cold clocked, cold cocked.

897
00:44:12,660 --> 00:44:13,940
No clock. What is it?

898
00:44:13,940 --> 00:44:15,900
No, it's called cocked, cold cocked.

899
00:44:15,900 --> 00:44:17,840
It's a leader, coldest clock.

900
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:22,020
Is it weirder than like somebody like bashing you with a frozen alarm clock?

901
00:44:22,020 --> 00:44:22,920
I kind of love that.

902
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:26,480
Like a like an AMF radio alarm clock from a seven.

903
00:44:26,980 --> 00:44:29,220
I just thought of like you know, six.

904
00:44:29,220 --> 00:44:30,520
Yeah. Oh, yeah.

905
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,060
Oh, yeah. Getting clock does kind of make sense.

906
00:44:33,060 --> 00:44:34,620
We're just getting cocked.

907
00:44:34,620 --> 00:44:37,700
Oh, Josie's called us out on giving up the.

908
00:44:39,020 --> 00:44:40,460
Ghost goat.

909
00:44:40,460 --> 00:44:44,040
Yeah, the real term is giving up the goat, but you and I have said

910
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,640
giving up the ghost on Mike before you for that.

911
00:44:47,700 --> 00:44:49,900
No, Josie has failed.

912
00:44:49,900 --> 00:44:51,480
I've gotten sorry, Josie.

913
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:55,120
I've gotten so much shit for a lion's share versus lion's share

914
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,820
because I always heard his line as an assembly line

915
00:44:58,820 --> 00:45:03,380
where you're doing the entire work of a line of people as opposed to lion's share,

916
00:45:03,620 --> 00:45:05,920
which makes no sense to me because lions,

917
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,700
male lions do the least amount of work.

918
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:12,360
They fight hyenas, but they don't hunt or feed the pack.

919
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:13,840
So what's your problem with that?

920
00:45:15,900 --> 00:45:18,040
As a male lion myself.

921
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,240
Yeah. Big pride right here.

922
00:45:20,240 --> 00:45:23,080
Hardcore alpha in the hose.

923
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:24,920
Match.

924
00:45:27,220 --> 00:45:29,080
It's a good episode. I'm proud of this episode.

925
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:30,480
Yeah, sure.

926
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,020
It's going to be some of us are.

927
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:38,760
Yeah. So I think that definitely that I mean, everything about that is the best.

928
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:40,860
Yeah, it's the the con itself.

929
00:45:40,860 --> 00:45:43,060
The construction of the scene is the tightest.

930
00:45:43,060 --> 00:45:44,860
The script is the tightest.

931
00:45:44,860 --> 00:45:48,200
Him teaching his daughter how to con is a pretty fun scene.

932
00:45:48,740 --> 00:45:50,040
Yeah. The lotto.

933
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:51,880
But then they give it up.

934
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:55,480
They give up the ghost at that moment.

935
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:57,580
I'm sorry, but I think.

936
00:45:57,580 --> 00:45:58,380
Rude.

937
00:45:58,380 --> 00:46:01,080
Ghost of the ghost.

938
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,380
But I believe you mean giving up the goat.

939
00:46:04,380 --> 00:46:06,660
Yeah. Oh, give it up the goat.

940
00:46:06,660 --> 00:46:09,120
See when Nick.

941
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,360
Don't shake your head.

942
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:12,700
You nod in approval, sir.

943
00:46:12,700 --> 00:46:13,820
That's early Internet.

944
00:46:13,820 --> 00:46:16,800
That is that's the earliest Internet.

945
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,740
That bathtub girl.

946
00:46:18,740 --> 00:46:19,360
Oh, yeah.

947
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:20,240
Top girl.

948
00:46:20,240 --> 00:46:23,200
Top girl and lemon party.

949
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:23,940
Yeah, baby.

950
00:46:23,940 --> 00:46:27,080
I imply that Nicholas Cage and his daughter fuck in the film

951
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:31,380
and giving up the goats is the one that makes you not be pleased with me.

952
00:46:31,420 --> 00:46:34,020
Yep. All right.

953
00:46:34,020 --> 00:46:35,920
Line in the sand.

954
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:41,460
The best parts of the movie are that it's the last 30 minutes of it.

955
00:46:41,460 --> 00:46:45,700
Yeah. Even like exiting that and going into his interviews

956
00:46:45,700 --> 00:46:48,140
with the police and everything like that. Great.

957
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:49,300
Also part of the con.

958
00:46:49,300 --> 00:46:51,740
Yeah. And well executed.

959
00:46:51,740 --> 00:46:52,240
Yeah. Yep.

960
00:46:52,240 --> 00:46:54,520
When he like when he leaves the hospital room.

961
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:59,180
So he wakes up after being cold cocked.

962
00:47:00,980 --> 00:47:01,680
That's how we got on this.

963
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,420
It's going to be great is that I'm going to take out the original part

964
00:47:04,420 --> 00:47:07,160
where we talk about cold clocking and it's just going to sound like

965
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:08,820
you are really weird thing.

966
00:47:08,820 --> 00:47:09,660
Really cold.

967
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:12,000
Cocked.

968
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,260
But the emphasis on the wrong syllable.

969
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,000
Anyway, he got cocked.

970
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:17,860
You got cocked.

971
00:47:17,860 --> 00:47:20,080
So but he wakes up and it was cold.

972
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,540
He wakes up in a hospital bed and the cops are there.

973
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:24,140
McGill's dead.

974
00:47:24,140 --> 00:47:26,380
And they're like, you can go away for a long time.

975
00:47:26,380 --> 00:47:27,320
You got a quote dead.

976
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:28,780
Calls this therapist.

977
00:47:28,780 --> 00:47:29,680
All this stuff.

978
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,120
And then he like wakes up in the middle of the night and he's like, hey,

979
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:35,920
turn on the AC and he like gets out of bed to go find the cops.

980
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,520
Well, he I bet he's been handcuffed this whole time.

981
00:47:38,720 --> 00:47:41,120
And as soon as he got up, I'm like, yeah, they're there.

982
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:42,600
There's the twist.

983
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,460
Yeah. And obviously, like that's for us.

984
00:47:45,460 --> 00:47:47,960
That's like he would have been so out of it.

985
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,240
He probably wouldn't have put it together.

986
00:47:51,340 --> 00:47:55,540
Yeah, because he was very groggy and kind of like fucked up

987
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,940
in the previous interrogation scene.

988
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:02,020
So he gets up without any handcuffs and like goes and ends up

989
00:48:02,020 --> 00:48:03,820
just on the roof of a building.

990
00:48:03,820 --> 00:48:08,660
And it's like, yeah, there's a there's your clothes with a little note set on top.

991
00:48:09,060 --> 00:48:11,760
He has a safety deposit box where he keeps all of his cash.

992
00:48:12,060 --> 00:48:13,560
We see how the con goes through.

993
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,160
It's a it's a good heist.

994
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:19,400
We're overdubbed with Sam Rockwell's like, I got you letter.

995
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,640
You know, I hope you appreciate the gift where you just leave some like

996
00:48:23,340 --> 00:48:25,400
100 bucks. Yeah, two, 300 bucks.

997
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:26,580
But no, it's it's a sack.

998
00:48:26,580 --> 00:48:27,600
So it's probably like 50.

999
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,240
It was in a thick stack.

1000
00:48:29,240 --> 00:48:32,480
So maybe twenty thousand dollars, like enough to not like die.

1001
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,920
Twenty thousand dollars, a thousand bucks, twenty thousand dollars

1002
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:37,320
in hundred dollar bills.

1003
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,320
A thousand is only that thick.

1004
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:40,380
It was pretty thick.

1005
00:48:40,380 --> 00:48:44,660
It was not that it was not that it was thin enough that it rested against the side

1006
00:48:44,660 --> 00:48:46,160
and then like delicately.

1007
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:47,920
It definitely was more than 10 bills.

1008
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,160
I bet he got 300 bucks.

1009
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:51,440
That would have been three bills.

1010
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,140
Yeah, it's more than three bills.

1011
00:48:53,140 --> 00:48:55,740
We're going to do this still frame one by one.

1012
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,840
Either way, I own the Blu Ray, so I'm going to blow this up.

1013
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:00,760
Yeah, I'm going to show you every.

1014
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,940
Not the fucking point. He's broke.

1015
00:49:03,940 --> 00:49:07,140
Also, as as an adult living in this year,

1016
00:49:07,180 --> 00:49:09,740
20 thousand dollars wouldn't get me that far.

1017
00:49:09,740 --> 00:49:11,380
But in night.

1018
00:49:11,380 --> 00:49:13,080
Oh, you got to talk about inflation.

1019
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:14,820
Josh, calculate this for us.

1020
00:49:14,820 --> 00:49:16,920
Yeah. Get our inflation calculator.

1021
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:21,020
But that's what so how do you realize actually work?

1022
00:49:21,060 --> 00:49:23,220
They're just you pay to do work.

1023
00:49:23,220 --> 00:49:25,200
Yeah, you come on this show.

1024
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:29,760
So what's more upsetting to me out of that heist is so he goes straight.

1025
00:49:29,860 --> 00:49:34,440
He goes to work for the carp, a carpet store where he runs into Angela,

1026
00:49:34,700 --> 00:49:37,880
where she like her boyfriend is coming to like they just moving together.

1027
00:49:38,140 --> 00:49:40,280
You want to buy carpet for the new apartment?

1028
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,980
And they run into each other and they have an awkward

1029
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:44,540
you fleece in the sky.

1030
00:49:44,540 --> 00:49:48,180
And she's like, no, that was like my only heist was you.

1031
00:49:48,180 --> 00:49:49,520
And he's like, well, you were good.

1032
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,680
And it ends with a so are you mad at me?

1033
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:54,820
Bye, Dad. Bye, Dad.

1034
00:49:54,820 --> 00:49:57,460
And I fucking hate the hair cans.

1035
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,960
But I love the carpet.

1036
00:49:59,960 --> 00:50:03,000
He sold them. Oh, it's leopard print carpet.

1037
00:50:03,060 --> 00:50:07,060
Yeah. For their apartment, their single bedroom studio apartment.

1038
00:50:07,100 --> 00:50:08,440
He wrecked their asses.

1039
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,740
Yeah, that's it. That was his revenge.

1040
00:50:10,740 --> 00:50:14,780
Also, who swaps out like a rental? Yeah.

1041
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,880
I'm going to do as much damage to my place as I possibly can

1042
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:23,480
because I found where my landlord stores the spare carpet.

1043
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,640
And I'm going to just patch in all the things I've got.

1044
00:50:27,420 --> 00:50:30,720
So the only thing that I have of note for the end of this movie

1045
00:50:30,720 --> 00:50:34,880
is that the boyfriend is Francis Kranz or something like that.

1046
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:36,180
I can't remember his exact name.

1047
00:50:36,180 --> 00:50:41,200
And in the first movie guarding tests, it's Harry Lennox,

1048
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:46,440
Henry Lennox, Harry, Harry, Henry, Harkin, Hank, one of the bodyguards.

1049
00:50:46,460 --> 00:50:48,960
Yeah, one of the bodyguards in guarding the black character.

1050
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,200
Yeah, he's super skinny because he was young then.

1051
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:55,140
But he and Francis are in dollhouse.

1052
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:57,840
I don't know if you ever watch that. Oh, yeah. I love dollhouse.

1053
00:50:57,840 --> 00:50:59,940
It was good. It had one season. Yeah.

1054
00:51:00,300 --> 00:51:02,580
It was kind of fun. It was pretty fun.

1055
00:51:02,580 --> 00:51:04,980
Maybe it had two. No, it had one watchable season.

1056
00:51:04,980 --> 00:51:06,580
One watchable season is correct.

1057
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,880
Quotes. So Nick Cage shows up at this pharmacy

1058
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:15,160
and he's been out of his meds that the faux doctor has been giving him.

1059
00:51:15,580 --> 00:51:18,920
And the guy who he yells at, said, I want to say his line was like,

1060
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,320
Hey, dude, you ever heard of a line?

1061
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:26,160
Yeah. So he's cutting in line and he's just being like very awful.

1062
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,200
And he just turns to this guy.

1063
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,640
He's like, Hey, have you ever been dragged in the sidewalk

1064
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:34,740
and beaten until you pissed blood?

1065
00:51:35,940 --> 00:51:38,440
It's just good.

1066
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,280
And he does apologize like two seconds later.

1067
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,180
He's like, sorry, I yelled at you.

1068
00:51:43,180 --> 00:51:45,580
Yeah, sorry. I said, pissed. What?

1069
00:51:45,580 --> 00:51:52,520
So my first quote for this film is so Nick Cage, part of his OCDC doesn't swear.

1070
00:51:52,820 --> 00:51:56,220
He only actually swears one time in this movie and then like immediately regrets it.

1071
00:51:56,220 --> 00:51:57,420
It's true. He says Pygmies.

1072
00:51:57,420 --> 00:51:59,260
So yeah, that's that was my first.

1073
00:51:59,260 --> 00:52:03,060
Sorry. My first quote, my longer quote, which let me say I can do this one

1074
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:08,100
in one go is the first time he visits his faux therapist

1075
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,380
and his therapist is like trying to like get him to like open up.

1076
00:52:11,380 --> 00:52:15,740
It's like, look, Doc, I spent last Tuesday watching fibers on my carpet.

1077
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:19,580
And the whole time I was watching my carpet, I was worrying that I might vomit.

1078
00:52:19,740 --> 00:52:22,120
And the whole time I was thinking, I'm a grown man.

1079
00:52:22,220 --> 00:52:23,920
I should know what's going on in my head.

1080
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,020
And the more I thought about it, the more I realized

1081
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,920
I should just blow my brains out and end it all.

1082
00:52:29,620 --> 00:52:34,300
But then I thought when well, if I thought more about blowing my brains out,

1083
00:52:34,500 --> 00:52:38,860
I start worrying about what that was going to do to my goddamn carpet.

1084
00:52:38,860 --> 00:52:42,660
OK, so that was a good day, Doc.

1085
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:49,140
And and I just want you to give me some pills and let me get all my life.

1086
00:52:50,140 --> 00:52:51,340
That's a good one, too.

1087
00:52:51,340 --> 00:52:53,440
Good, bad, bad, good, bad, bad, bad, good, good, bad, bad.

1088
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:59,220
But I felt like this existed about on the same level.

1089
00:53:00,140 --> 00:53:03,280
Like energy wise, he played the script

1090
00:53:03,980 --> 00:53:07,120
and I think that was his involvement in this one.

1091
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:12,500
I didn't get anything like effort wise out of it from him.

1092
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:17,400
I don't know. I kind of disagree in terms of like some of the

1093
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,040
the Tourette's work that he was doing with the ticks.

1094
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:23,340
I think he did a good job. I think that was a good performance.

1095
00:53:23,500 --> 00:53:28,640
I think that he wasn't insensitive, which is really easy to do with Tourette's.

1096
00:53:29,180 --> 00:53:30,040
That's true. Yeah.

1097
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:35,220
He they didn't play it insensitively or like they played it pretty clean and honest.

1098
00:53:35,220 --> 00:53:38,420
And that's hard to come across naturally.

1099
00:53:38,780 --> 00:53:42,960
I would say I think he was given more to do in this film than Gardening Tess.

1100
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:49,200
I don't necessarily think that he gave more personally of the performance

1101
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,100
between the two. I think he was fine.

1102
00:53:52,100 --> 00:53:53,640
He was entertaining.

1103
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:58,280
Again, this might just be the world we live in in terms of the Internet and planography.

1104
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:03,400
I do not like a whatography, panography, panography.

1105
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:04,680
I don't calligraphy.

1106
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:06,940
Yes, I don't. This is what gets me going.

1107
00:54:06,940 --> 00:54:09,240
Panography. Look at that fucking pen stroke.

1108
00:54:09,720 --> 00:54:13,360
I don't I don't like his performance with Alison Lomond.

1109
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:14,520
With Alison Lomond in this film.

1110
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:17,280
It's it's just it's so uncomfortable.

1111
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:18,620
It is very uncomfortable.

1112
00:54:18,620 --> 00:54:23,160
Like, obviously, he's a character who, like, wants so bad to,

1113
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:27,600
like, retake this moment in his past because he had this terrible

1114
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,500
like this relationship that he fucked up and he acknowledges.

1115
00:54:30,500 --> 00:54:36,520
And at the crux of that, there was the question of a child

1116
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:42,220
and he could like retake that that portion of his life.

1117
00:54:42,220 --> 00:54:48,260
He could like make amends for the shitty person he was if he,

1118
00:54:48,860 --> 00:54:50,660
I don't know, was a good dad now.

1119
00:54:50,660 --> 00:54:57,500
So he like puts all of his effort into that and that blinds him to being scammed,

1120
00:54:57,500 --> 00:55:01,080
even though, like, obviously, there's the check off line of

1121
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:06,220
make sure you're not getting conned by the person you're conning.

1122
00:55:06,220 --> 00:55:10,320
First lesson that he gives her as she cons him.

1123
00:55:10,820 --> 00:55:15,320
Yeah, I never liked the whole daddy daughter interaction.

1124
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:18,200
Yeah. I mean, none of it played genuine to me.

1125
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,160
No. As someone who is neither a dad or a daughter.

1126
00:55:21,660 --> 00:55:23,460
But it's not as this on the Internet today.

1127
00:55:23,460 --> 00:55:26,300
Yeah. And sees all sorts of dad daughter interactions.

1128
00:55:26,300 --> 00:55:29,300
Yeah. I think we're good on this.

1129
00:55:29,300 --> 00:55:31,300
We watched we watched adult documentaries.

1130
00:55:31,300 --> 00:55:34,040
I know you are documentarians.

1131
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,180
I watched one today for posterity.

1132
00:55:36,180 --> 00:55:41,320
Good. What movie moves forward for me in terms of both these films?

1133
00:55:41,720 --> 00:55:44,280
I think they're both flawed.

1134
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,480
I think one's a better film, but I think one makes me less uncomfortable.

1135
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:49,420
Here's my opinion.

1136
00:55:49,420 --> 00:55:54,320
I thought that I thought Magic Men was going to like go down.

1137
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,320
I thought it was like a hard no. After my first watch,

1138
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:01,000
it holds up well enough after a second watch.

1139
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:05,060
Like I thought the conceit was going to like make it unwatchable,

1140
00:56:05,240 --> 00:56:08,060
but I was still able to sit through it.

1141
00:56:08,140 --> 00:56:12,040
It kind of made more fun to watch for watch for those.

1142
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:16,000
Yeah. I mean, they give it up so early that you kind of see it all

1143
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:20,820
as it progresses anyways, but it doesn't it doesn't hurt to rewatch.

1144
00:56:20,820 --> 00:56:26,960
And it's still kind of clever enough to keep you going.

1145
00:56:27,060 --> 00:56:29,440
I think the performances are better.

1146
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:33,880
But my problem with it is it's just so sloppily executed.

1147
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,940
The movie itself is just kind of hamfisted.

1148
00:56:37,540 --> 00:56:42,420
And while guarding tasks like isn't as interesting to me,

1149
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:44,620
start to finish.

1150
00:56:44,620 --> 00:56:49,620
It feels like a tighter movie all the way across the board.

1151
00:56:49,620 --> 00:56:54,180
I just feel better about the movie as a whole

1152
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,720
and Nicholas's performance in the movie.

1153
00:56:58,060 --> 00:57:00,320
Yeah, we were dancing around Nick.

1154
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,560
What do you what would you like to go forward?

1155
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,640
I think it's still guarding tests for me.

1156
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,740
Same for me. So I think this. Yeah.

1157
00:57:09,340 --> 00:57:11,340
Congratulations, Tess.

1158
00:57:12,340 --> 00:57:17,940
This week in cage, we're getting closer to long legs.

1159
00:57:17,940 --> 00:57:19,440
That's coming up soon.

1160
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,440
Retirement plan at some point.

1161
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:25,220
But also a eight twenty four releases coming up.

1162
00:57:25,220 --> 00:57:28,860
Oh, dream scenario where there's like a town of people

1163
00:57:28,860 --> 00:57:32,860
that are all having dreams about Nicholas Cage's bald ass head.

1164
00:57:32,860 --> 00:57:35,260
Oh, that's right. Yeah. And he looks so good.

1165
00:57:35,260 --> 00:57:39,560
Absolutely. As like lumpy grandpa or lumpy uncle.

1166
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:41,560
He's really hitting like a new pocket.

1167
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:45,440
Lumpal. Yeah. Lumpal cage. Lumpal cage.

1168
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:46,440
Beautiful.

1169
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:49,280
Beautiful. Thank you all for listening.

1170
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,840
Please rate, review, subscribe.

1171
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:55,740
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1172
00:57:56,280 --> 00:58:00,860
Special thanks to our Sparkle buddies Josh, Sean, Josie, Rico, Matt and Adam

1173
00:58:01,180 --> 00:58:06,500
and to our cage dancers, Ira, John and Freeman and newest cage dancer Lance.

1174
00:58:06,700 --> 00:58:09,660
Here's a golf clap for Lance.

1175
00:58:09,660 --> 00:58:11,720
Yay.

1176
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:15,740
And here's something that suspiciously sounds like a golf clap, but isn't.

1177
00:58:15,740 --> 00:58:21,080
You guys are disgusting.

1178
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:27,740
So coming up next episode, we've got a special guest, Josh.

1179
00:58:27,940 --> 00:58:32,980
And we're finally doing finally doing the bad lieutenant colon part of call

1180
00:58:32,980 --> 00:58:37,820
hyphen New Orleans against eight millimeter, which is not a sequel.

1181
00:58:37,820 --> 00:58:39,660
Stop thinking it's a sequel.

1182
00:58:39,660 --> 00:58:43,160
It has nothing to do with any other bad lieutenant movies.

1183
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:44,620
It is its own thing.

1184
00:58:44,620 --> 00:58:46,240
They live in their own universes, people.

1185
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,240
There can be more than one bad lieutenant.

1186
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,460
Yeah. So many lieutenants in the world.

1187
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:52,640
Most of them bad.

1188
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:54,900
It's a cop thing.

1189
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:56,900
Bye bye.

1190
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:09,180
Listen, this is just bro's bro around.

1191
00:59:09,180 --> 00:59:11,380
We all went to college. Winnie the Pooh and Donald Duckin.

1192
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:12,460
Yeah. Yeah.

1193
00:59:12,460 --> 00:59:15,920
Whichever shirted non-pants animal you like to associate with.

1194
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:17,600
I feel like there was a lot of Hannah Barbera stuff.

1195
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:19,300
Or was that just that they all had neckties?

1196
00:59:19,300 --> 00:59:20,200
They all had collars.

1197
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,700
Oh, yeah, they were all collars attached to the top to the bottoms.

1198
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,200
God, they're either. Why?

1199
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:29,200
Did you watch the old He-Man series?

1200
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:30,800
Yeah. Forever ago, of course.

1201
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:32,480
But yeah, did you?

1202
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,580
I love all the times they just cut in like

1203
00:59:35,980 --> 00:59:39,580
stock footage of He-Man running because it's always the same run.

1204
00:59:39,580 --> 00:59:42,180
And it's just like he's doing it, people.

1205
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:45,820
Yeah, that's the run.

1206
00:59:45,820 --> 00:59:48,760
We need to get us on camera for our patrons.

1207
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,760
I really am just going to put

1208
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:55,500
I'm just going to put Nick's head on He-Man's body.

1209
00:59:55,900 --> 00:59:57,100
It's the exact same thing.

1210
00:59:57,100 --> 00:59:59,100
It is basically the same body. Yeah.

1211
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:03,680
They tried to get me for the original Masters of the Universe movie,

1212
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:07,580
but I was already booked, so they settled for Dolph Lundgren.

1213
01:00:07,580 --> 01:00:10,580
You also too.

1214
01:00:11,820 --> 01:00:12,920
This is mostly Peter.

1215
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:15,420
This is this is mostly me just recording shit to like

1216
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:18,500
fuck with him when he produces this.

1217
01:00:18,500 --> 01:00:19,860
Peter's a great producer.

1218
01:00:19,860 --> 01:00:22,800
I know some of you are like, why isn't Peter a host?

1219
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:27,140
It's because he does more work than us and he wants credit for that.

1220
01:00:27,140 --> 01:00:28,500
And we want to give him credit for that.

1221
01:00:28,500 --> 01:00:30,680
He's the main reason we have the podcast. So thank you, Peter.

1222
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:33,040
So be nice to me.

1223
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:36,940
Fuck you. You weren't supposed to hear that now.