1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,680 Oh, God. Oh, my God. 2 00:00:13,180 --> 00:00:15,380 I think one of the weirdest things about Gone In 60 Seconds for me 3 00:00:15,380 --> 00:00:20,120 is just how like masturbatory it was about cars like it. 4 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,820 It's for people who just geek out on cars like the Wikipedia page 5 00:00:24,820 --> 00:00:26,620 has entries about the cars now. 6 00:00:26,620 --> 00:00:28,500 But who fucking cares? 7 00:00:28,500 --> 00:00:31,040 I mean, it's cool that it's a remake. 8 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:32,540 Yeah, which I learned last night. 9 00:00:32,540 --> 00:00:33,900 Yeah, I had no idea. 10 00:00:33,900 --> 00:00:35,340 I've never seen the original. 11 00:00:35,340 --> 00:00:36,000 I haven't either. 12 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:37,040 It's cool about the 70s. 13 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,040 You know what's cool about that? 14 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:39,900 What's cool about that? 15 00:00:39,900 --> 00:00:41,540 Welcome back to Cage Match around about wave media. 16 00:00:41,540 --> 00:00:42,900 Nicholas Cage, Colin. 17 00:00:42,900 --> 00:00:45,140 It's just getting ridiculous at this point. 18 00:00:45,140 --> 00:00:47,080 I know. OK, let me take that again. 19 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,120 Welcome back to Cage Match, Colin around about wave media. 20 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:50,520 Nicholas Cage, Colin. 21 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:51,760 The podcast hasn't started yet. 22 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:53,860 So stop talking about Gone In 60 Seconds. 23 00:00:53,860 --> 00:00:56,060 I'm your host, Sean. 24 00:00:56,060 --> 00:00:57,660 With my co-host. 25 00:00:57,660 --> 00:00:59,120 Mm hmm. 26 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:00,620 I don't know if that's happening today. 27 00:01:00,620 --> 00:01:03,400 All right. I'm Nick. 28 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,100 And a producer. Hello, I'm Peter. 29 00:01:05,100 --> 00:01:06,960 And our special guest, John. 30 00:01:06,960 --> 00:01:08,100 Hi, John. Hi. 31 00:01:08,100 --> 00:01:10,200 Welcome to the show. Thank you. 32 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,680 How was your chicken piccata this morning? 33 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,480 I thought it was supposed to be deal piccata. 34 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:18,040 Well, we're all on budgets. 35 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:18,740 I want to fix it. 36 00:01:18,740 --> 00:01:21,220 My chicken piccata was delicious, by the way. 37 00:01:21,220 --> 00:01:23,460 It was very well cooked. 38 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,420 The yolk was nice and runny. 39 00:01:27,420 --> 00:01:29,000 A good everything bagels. 40 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:30,760 Delicious bagel base. 41 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:34,260 We lured John into Peter's basement with the promise of the alpaca. 42 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,500 Yeah, there is no breakfast today, though. 43 00:01:36,500 --> 00:01:37,460 Yeah. Feel Piccata. 44 00:01:37,460 --> 00:01:39,640 Benedict should have been your hint that it was fake. 45 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:41,140 I don't know what the alpaca is. 46 00:01:41,140 --> 00:01:44,780 It's like veal with capers and like a white wine. 47 00:01:44,980 --> 00:01:46,280 Yeah. Lemonade. 48 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,240 Wine sauce totally sounds like an amazing. 49 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:49,380 Yeah, it's delicious. 50 00:01:49,380 --> 00:01:51,840 It probably would be a good Benedict now that I think about it. 51 00:01:52,140 --> 00:01:52,880 We'll be right back. 52 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,320 We're going to make this and then we'll come back and talk about it. OK. 53 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,480 That was good. Yeah. 54 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:58,720 Very tasty. Yeah. 55 00:01:58,720 --> 00:01:59,760 Would eat that again. 56 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:01,760 So on this podcast, we talk Nicholas Cage, 57 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,560 rocket system, 64 films go in. 58 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,340 One movie will come out this week. 59 00:02:07,340 --> 00:02:10,240 We're talking gone in 60 seconds and Ghost Rider Spirit of Vengeance, 60 00:02:10,500 --> 00:02:12,640 a very high octane episode. 61 00:02:12,640 --> 00:02:15,080 Which would you say it is? 62 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:19,080 Three. You pull up to the gas station, you just go to the three pump. Yeah. 63 00:02:20,780 --> 00:02:23,740 It's mostly covered in spiders year round. 64 00:02:23,740 --> 00:02:26,580 Oh, man. Fucking I hate fake spider season. 65 00:02:26,580 --> 00:02:28,140 I was all like ready for it. 66 00:02:28,140 --> 00:02:31,480 Now they've gone away again, which means in a week I'm going to walk right into a web. 67 00:02:31,620 --> 00:02:34,080 Yep. Told you it wasn't spider season yet. 68 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,780 Yeah, it's getting there. Spider seasons end of summer. 69 00:02:37,260 --> 00:02:38,360 What do you have against it? 70 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:39,720 Sean doesn't like the spiders. 71 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:43,260 I think it's the spiders is what he doesn't like about spider season. 72 00:02:43,260 --> 00:02:45,000 But like the spiders here are chill. Yeah. 73 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:49,460 Yeah. They just like to build a web in front, like in front of doors 74 00:02:49,460 --> 00:02:51,860 and across sidewalks and stuff. 75 00:02:51,860 --> 00:02:54,060 Yeah, sometimes they're even big and hairy and that's cool. 76 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,340 I don't want to ruin this for you, Sean, but I'm pretty sure we have black widows here. 77 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,740 That's fine. I grew up in a place with hobo spiders. 78 00:02:59,740 --> 00:03:01,740 This is yeah. Hobo spiders. 79 00:03:01,740 --> 00:03:04,800 I think they're called unhoused spiders. 80 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:06,400 Drifter spiders. 81 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,680 You're David Banner of spiders. 82 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:10,720 I imagine that would be spider with a little bindle. 83 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:12,480 Yeah, it's a spindle. 84 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:13,580 Let's be real. 85 00:03:13,580 --> 00:03:17,280 Oh, John, our most dad joke person who is not a dad. 86 00:03:17,620 --> 00:03:19,680 Yeah, that's right. I got to have a thing. 87 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,260 So, John, what is your interest in Nicolas Cage? 88 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:28,860 My interest in Nicolas Cage is mostly seeing someone who's almost as hairy as I am. 89 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,460 Oh, he does have good body hair. 90 00:03:31,460 --> 00:03:33,960 Yeah. John, that is. 91 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,140 I mean, Nick Cage, too, occasionally, but not always. 92 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,240 Yeah, his chest hair is impressive. 93 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,100 And I don't think we've seen his bare back. 94 00:03:42,100 --> 00:03:43,640 He's not a hairy backed guy. 95 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:45,780 No, it's just just like he might wax the back. 96 00:03:45,780 --> 00:03:47,780 Oh, I'm sure he does. I would. 97 00:03:47,780 --> 00:03:50,320 Yeah, I mean, the chest hair comes and goes like the tides. 98 00:03:50,780 --> 00:03:52,320 You ever shave your chest? 99 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:53,380 Shave it. Yeah. 100 00:03:53,380 --> 00:03:55,380 When I was in bodybuilding, I shaved everything. 101 00:03:55,380 --> 00:03:58,860 Yeah, that was fun for speed in bodybuilding. 102 00:04:00,020 --> 00:04:00,720 You got to get all loose. 103 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:02,500 You got to get into that slide across the stage. 104 00:04:02,500 --> 00:04:04,960 Exactly. That was just right. 105 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:10,240 Yeah. I used to have my chest and stomach hair shaved into an arrow pointing down 106 00:04:10,740 --> 00:04:12,780 at 100 percent tracks. 107 00:04:12,780 --> 00:04:15,600 Yeah, I am not shocked by this information in the slightest. 108 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:20,520 I think that's to how long that lasted a good couple of years. 109 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,340 What is that is shock? 110 00:04:23,340 --> 00:04:25,460 Haining. That's a bit for sure. 111 00:04:25,460 --> 00:04:29,080 Well, it starts to get uncomfortable when it's growing back out. 112 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:30,920 So you just maintain. 113 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,360 Also, you know, you get good about shaving around your nipples and everything. 114 00:04:34,460 --> 00:04:36,100 I don't remember you being that hairy. 115 00:04:36,100 --> 00:04:40,140 I'm not terribly hairy, but when it's just an arrow pointing down, 116 00:04:40,140 --> 00:04:41,100 I guess you'd notice it. 117 00:04:41,100 --> 00:04:42,960 Yeah, it's like subtle. 118 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:44,800 What we're talking here. 119 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,040 The main portion of the arrow is about two inches, 120 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,040 and then it flared out to about here and then straight down. 121 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,940 I would say the main point of the arrow is the pointy bit 122 00:04:52,940 --> 00:04:55,440 or the main area of the arrows, the pointy bit, not the line. 123 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,480 I would disagree, because if you just look at the pointy bit, 124 00:04:59,620 --> 00:05:01,960 all you're looking at is a triangle. 125 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:03,120 You got me there. 126 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:07,200 The line creates linear focus. 127 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,400 But a triangle can also be an arrow. 128 00:05:10,060 --> 00:05:12,400 But it's also in three different directions. 129 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:13,560 Which one do you look at? 130 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,500 That's only true for an isolateral triangle, though. 131 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:18,440 We're not bringing math into this. 132 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,380 You leave your geometry at home. 133 00:05:20,380 --> 00:05:22,200 We're talking about harrows only today. 134 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,080 Gross. Ah, that's it. 135 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:27,280 That should have been where I came in. 136 00:05:27,280 --> 00:05:28,280 Yeah. 137 00:05:28,280 --> 00:05:29,380 I'll just move everything around. 138 00:05:29,380 --> 00:05:31,080 That's fine. You do anyway. 139 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,580 I'm not changing shit. 140 00:05:33,580 --> 00:05:35,180 Peter's like, I fucking give up. 141 00:05:35,180 --> 00:05:37,420 I'm not even working on this anymore. 142 00:05:37,420 --> 00:05:39,900 Peter's going on vacation for like 10 days. 143 00:05:39,900 --> 00:05:42,100 He doesn't get it anymore. 144 00:05:42,100 --> 00:05:45,560 Honestly, as much work as just guesting on this was, 145 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:47,860 which is a shocking amount of work, by the way. 146 00:05:47,860 --> 00:05:48,860 Yes. 147 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,000 I'm impressed with how long you guys have been doing this, 148 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:53,140 because I definitely would have quit. 149 00:05:53,140 --> 00:05:58,040 Yeah. So on the website, too, I just had how many hours 150 00:05:58,040 --> 00:05:59,720 and minutes we've been watching cage movies. 151 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:01,720 And then I finally did the conversion. 152 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,080 And now it reads how many days we've spent on it. 153 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,960 And it's over four days now just watching the movies. 154 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:08,580 And that's not counting rewatches. 155 00:06:08,580 --> 00:06:09,620 Oh, yeah. I watched both twice. 156 00:06:09,620 --> 00:06:12,520 Just a singular watch is all I'm tracking. 157 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:16,460 It's a lot of time that we have now lost to our Lord and Savior, 158 00:06:16,460 --> 00:06:17,460 Nicolas Cage. 159 00:06:17,460 --> 00:06:18,660 I can't see his name. 160 00:06:18,660 --> 00:06:19,660 Yeah. 161 00:06:19,660 --> 00:06:21,800 As Darryl would say, the golden hog of Hollywood. 162 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:23,440 I know he's going to like that. 163 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,100 We're going to bring that in, too. 164 00:06:25,100 --> 00:06:28,140 I mean, it's been it's been transferring around to some other podcasts. 165 00:06:28,140 --> 00:06:30,580 So has it? Yeah, he's running. 166 00:06:30,580 --> 00:06:33,080 That's good. I didn't want to jump on his thing there. 167 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:34,980 But no, no, I think he would enjoy that. 168 00:06:34,980 --> 00:06:37,880 He's got he's got getting to follow you now. 169 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,420 Yeah. Getting to follow you. 170 00:06:41,660 --> 00:06:46,020 Wait, does he have a theme song for getting to follow you? 171 00:06:46,020 --> 00:06:47,160 Yeah. Yes. 172 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:48,960 We got to put lyrics to your base thing. 173 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:52,300 Yeah. I mean, we have we have him shouting fuck. 174 00:06:52,340 --> 00:06:56,340 Yeah. I'm a little disappointed you don't play that at the beginning of every episode. 175 00:06:56,500 --> 00:06:58,440 Oh, yeah. Yeah. 176 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,700 It would be different every episode because Seinfeld it. 177 00:07:00,740 --> 00:07:03,640 Yeah. Peter just came over and we just put him held a microphone up to my 178 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:04,640 and just noodled around. 179 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:05,940 I just moved around for half an hour. 180 00:07:05,940 --> 00:07:07,240 And that's what we get. 181 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,480 Yeah. It's my one professional like base credit. 182 00:07:10,580 --> 00:07:12,140 I'm a musician, ma. 183 00:07:12,140 --> 00:07:14,120 There is an IMDb for bass players. 184 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:15,660 It's actually the unemployment list. 185 00:07:18,460 --> 00:07:20,360 So got in 60 seconds. 186 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,660 Here's where I'm going to be if this keeps up. 187 00:07:25,460 --> 00:07:28,040 John, you're the guest, which means I have to do less work. 188 00:07:28,300 --> 00:07:29,600 What's gone in 60 seconds about? 189 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,240 That's what you said last week, Sean. 190 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,040 And it holds true today. 191 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,600 So gone in 60 seconds is basically a standardized movie. 192 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:41,480 Let's be real. Like, there is nothing special about this movie, which is. 193 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:44,980 That's a hot take. And I'm a hot take guy. 194 00:07:44,980 --> 00:07:46,320 Can I go into opinions? Yeah. 195 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:49,180 Oh, OK. Yeah. So we don't do opinions on this. 196 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,920 I like hot takes, but not opinionated ones. 197 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:53,860 Yeah. I mean, don't get me wrong. 198 00:07:53,860 --> 00:07:57,800 I love this movie, but there's nothing fancy about it. 199 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,460 Right. It's just Ocean's 11 with cars, more or less. 200 00:08:01,340 --> 00:08:02,940 Oh, I see you disagreeing. 201 00:08:02,940 --> 00:08:06,880 No, actually, I was thinking it's more like a original Fast and Furious. 202 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,080 Ah, you beat me. So I was also going to talk about Fast and Furious. 203 00:08:10,340 --> 00:08:13,740 And it came out what just a year before the first Fast movie. 204 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,380 I had to check that before I texted Peter. 205 00:08:16,380 --> 00:08:18,240 Oh, I'm like, I'm going to say this to Nick. 206 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,920 Nope. Right down to the end when they're having the barbecue 207 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,280 and everybody's family styling around fucking fast. 208 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,960 I can't wait. Family styling is making out, right? Yeah. 209 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:29,860 That's when everyone makes that. 210 00:08:29,860 --> 00:08:31,860 You've got to everyone sticks their tongue in at the same time. 211 00:08:31,860 --> 00:08:36,360 Uh huh. Three way kissing was like the hot thing on TV for a period of time. 212 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,500 Absolutely not. What are you talking about? 213 00:08:38,500 --> 00:08:42,040 It was really big during the like, I'm actually with you. 214 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:43,500 I know what you're talking about. 215 00:08:43,500 --> 00:08:47,180 Yeah, it was like the big thing and everyone's like, oh, so hot. 216 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,480 Three way kiss. It's like, that's terrible. 217 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,540 Like nobody's getting any action. 218 00:08:51,540 --> 00:08:52,740 That's just touching. 219 00:08:52,740 --> 00:08:57,580 That just makes me think of a buddy of mine back in high school. 220 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,120 I mean, in Oregon, we had 18 and over strip clubs and stuff, 221 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,260 and he would go to the strip club after school. 222 00:09:03,560 --> 00:09:06,060 And this guy was high school. 223 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,800 Yeah. This guy was falling hard and he was blowing like 224 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,140 all of his paychecks at the strip club. 225 00:09:12,500 --> 00:09:16,740 And he was getting like lap dances from two strippers at once. 226 00:09:16,780 --> 00:09:20,780 And it's like that is insanely stupid. 227 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:22,440 Just like one on each leg. 228 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:26,040 Yeah. I don't know if they were like jumping in and like back and forth. 229 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:30,080 But nobody's doing 100 percent of their like actual work. 230 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,340 I'm expecting like one of them to stand on the shoulders of the other. 231 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,080 Wear a trench coat. Yeah, that would be cool. 232 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:37,580 The tallest stripper. Yeah. 233 00:09:37,580 --> 00:09:39,760 And I'm kind of into this. 234 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:42,760 Yeah. So this movie, I don't know, like 235 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:46,160 to 2000 is when it came out and it feels very 2000 to me. 236 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:50,360 Like that intro is so fucking dated and like shitty font work. 237 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:55,500 Everybody's got that like 2000 hair that's kind of just slicked back. 238 00:09:55,500 --> 00:09:57,700 Yeah. Greasy, greasy, greasy, greasy. 239 00:09:57,700 --> 00:10:00,940 That man is quintessential 2000. 240 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,420 Yeah. All he was missing was some wraparound shades. 241 00:10:04,420 --> 00:10:06,420 Which his psychic had. Yeah. 242 00:10:06,420 --> 00:10:07,880 Which one? Tumblr. 243 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:12,280 The tech guy who his one tech thing was fake fingerprints. 244 00:10:12,380 --> 00:10:15,220 No, no, he had the wasn't he was the one with the little thing 245 00:10:15,220 --> 00:10:17,300 that got the garage. Yeah. 246 00:10:17,300 --> 00:10:19,660 Recorded the frequency that the garage door. 247 00:10:19,660 --> 00:10:21,760 Oh, yeah. As if that's it. 248 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:22,700 Yeah. 249 00:10:22,700 --> 00:10:25,440 Which apparently they could have just walked around to the back of the garage 250 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:29,100 anyways, because there was an open door in that scene to not pick up on that. 251 00:10:29,140 --> 00:10:32,400 Oh, yeah. Because like when they're in there and steal the car. 252 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,340 Yeah. That girl like walks up and he's just standing there in the open. 253 00:10:35,340 --> 00:10:37,940 I can we talk about like real quick? 254 00:10:38,380 --> 00:10:40,180 I know we haven't talked about anything about it yet. 255 00:10:40,180 --> 00:10:46,860 So the the goons that work for Robisi in the beginning. 256 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,220 So like James Kahn or not. 257 00:10:49,220 --> 00:10:51,760 James Kahn was like, what fucking movie are you watching? 258 00:10:52,100 --> 00:10:53,860 Scott Kane. Yeah. 259 00:10:53,860 --> 00:10:55,640 So you're talking about is it King? 260 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:56,800 I don't know. Con King. 261 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:58,760 I thought he was a Scott. Yeah. Scott Khan, I'm pretty sure. 262 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:02,900 Oh, well, just the names of the the boosters in the beginning. 263 00:11:02,900 --> 00:11:06,540 There's there's Kip Reigns, which is Nicolas Cage's younger brother. 264 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,680 Robisi. Yeah. Played by Gary Robisi there. 265 00:11:09,680 --> 00:11:10,840 Or whatever his name is. 266 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:12,220 Greasy, greasy, greasy. 267 00:11:12,220 --> 00:11:13,980 My first note of this movie was by Gary. 268 00:11:13,980 --> 00:11:16,680 You see, so greasy. 269 00:11:16,680 --> 00:11:20,420 If Gary Busey ever plays Nicolas Cage's younger brother, 270 00:11:20,420 --> 00:11:26,000 I will buy 30 copies of that movie and mail one to every listener 271 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,540 who gives me a comment that's just burnt on DVDs 272 00:11:29,540 --> 00:11:31,340 that someone's had lined around for 20 years. 273 00:11:31,340 --> 00:11:34,100 Just an old CDRW. Yeah. Yeah. 274 00:11:34,100 --> 00:11:37,640 Um, but I wanted to talk about these these guys real quick. 275 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,200 So there was Kip Reigns. 276 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:45,440 There's a guy named Tumblr who has the dumbest looking mutton chops 277 00:11:45,680 --> 00:11:49,680 and is just, I don't know, a beefcake idiot. 278 00:11:49,680 --> 00:11:51,260 Fuck, what was that other guy's name? 279 00:11:51,260 --> 00:11:55,560 There was Mirror Man, the one to be Dave Chappelle. 280 00:11:55,560 --> 00:11:57,960 Oh, he's the tech guy. Never shuts his mouth. Yeah. 281 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,100 They'll say the thing that pisses me the most off 282 00:12:00,100 --> 00:12:03,160 about the guy with the sunglasses is that he never takes them off. 283 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,100 Yeah, you know, he's completely blind for half of that movie. Yeah. Yeah. 284 00:12:06,500 --> 00:12:07,700 Everything happens at night. 285 00:12:07,700 --> 00:12:10,040 Got to wear your mirrored shades. Yeah. 286 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:11,680 So, yeah, Mirror Man, Tumblr. 287 00:12:11,680 --> 00:12:14,180 There's a guy named Toby. That's the screw up. 288 00:12:14,340 --> 00:12:15,980 Yeah, Toby doesn't do anything. 289 00:12:15,980 --> 00:12:19,340 He's the one that like get he's like, I can get into the DMV. 290 00:12:19,340 --> 00:12:22,120 Hack into the DMV, change 291 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:23,880 license plates and this and that. 292 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,380 And it's like, OK, you're you're an idiot. 293 00:12:26,380 --> 00:12:30,460 And there was Frab Frab, the one you're thinking who hires pizza 294 00:12:30,460 --> 00:12:33,020 like a madman and apparently steals drug dealer cars 295 00:12:33,020 --> 00:12:35,360 and brings a bunch of heroin back into the shop. 296 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:36,260 I've never seen heroin. 297 00:12:36,260 --> 00:12:38,200 Can you tell heroin apart from other white powder drugs? 298 00:12:39,060 --> 00:12:41,300 They could probably not by looking. Yeah. 299 00:12:41,740 --> 00:12:43,740 I didn't see any like gum rubs or anything like that. 300 00:12:44,460 --> 00:12:48,000 Now that we've kind of talked about that scene, what's this movie about? 301 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:51,340 So Nick Cage gets pulled back in for one more heist. 302 00:12:51,340 --> 00:12:55,700 He used to boost cars for a living, skip town for mysterious reasons 303 00:12:55,980 --> 00:13:00,120 until his brother, Robisi Kip, goes a little wild on a job 304 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:05,280 and gets the attention of the cops and now is being held hostage by Dr. 305 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,860 Who Christopher Eccleston with a great wig 306 00:13:09,380 --> 00:13:14,060 who is threatening to kill his brother to kill Nick Cage brother. 307 00:13:14,060 --> 00:13:19,600 Memphis Reigns gets pulled back in to steal 50 cars in four nights. 308 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:21,660 Otherwise, him and his brother are dead. 309 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,600 To be clear, that's the job that his brother signed up for. 310 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:25,840 And then his brother bashed it. 311 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,200 Now they have to do it in the compressed time frame. Yeah, right. 312 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:32,540 Or else they're going to go into that coffin that Christopher Eccleston built. 313 00:13:32,540 --> 00:13:34,380 So because he's impressive. 314 00:13:34,380 --> 00:13:37,580 Yeah, he's the carpenter. He's an accomplished wood worker. 315 00:13:37,580 --> 00:13:39,720 Yeah, that's his that's his mafia name, the carpenter. 316 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,720 Because it's 2000. He's a lame ass character. 317 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:46,060 I did not enjoy as well as your own motivation. 318 00:13:46,060 --> 00:13:49,400 We I understand why Christopher Eccleston hates fucking Hollywood 319 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:52,060 because he was like British and mildly menacing. 320 00:13:52,060 --> 00:13:54,360 So they just kept making him like shitty bad guys. 321 00:13:55,140 --> 00:13:56,540 Foreigners are scary. 322 00:13:56,540 --> 00:13:58,440 That's true. We don't like him here. 323 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,300 That was my one problem with one of my one problem is just that 324 00:14:01,300 --> 00:14:03,680 the lack of motivation for the villain, right? 325 00:14:03,680 --> 00:14:05,740 He's just being a jerk. Yeah, jerk. 326 00:14:05,740 --> 00:14:08,740 He's promised somebody else 50 cars, and if he doesn't deliver, 327 00:14:08,740 --> 00:14:11,120 he's going to look like an asshole. Yeah, it's not he's going to die. 328 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:14,020 It's not like the other guy's going to kill him or something or like. 329 00:14:14,380 --> 00:14:16,920 Also, so the job is only worth $200,000. 330 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:18,660 When I heard that, I was like, fuck that. 331 00:14:18,660 --> 00:14:22,460 Yeah, that was 2000, $200,000 in 2000 money. 332 00:14:23,020 --> 00:14:25,300 Well, OK, so inflate that up to 500. 333 00:14:25,300 --> 00:14:26,860 I mean, 300,000 million. 334 00:14:26,860 --> 00:14:29,600 Yeah, it's like, I mean, the job is worth it. 335 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,540 We can use the rule of 72 here to figure out how quickly that would double. 336 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,100 Oh, good. Yeah. Do that for us, please. 337 00:14:35,100 --> 00:14:37,400 I'm not going to put the job is mostly to save his brother. 338 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:38,880 He doesn't care about the money. Sure. 339 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,140 And we're busy. Fucking sucks. 340 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,040 He's a fuck up. You see his house. It's shitty. 341 00:14:44,380 --> 00:14:47,080 Oh, man. His breakfast making skills suck. 342 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:48,980 What? What's in this? 343 00:14:48,980 --> 00:14:50,560 What's in this? I don't know. 344 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,480 Yeah, it's garbage. 345 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,460 If my brother tried to serve that to me, I don't know. 346 00:14:55,900 --> 00:14:58,700 Push him over. What was it? They're estranged. That's true. 347 00:14:59,500 --> 00:15:00,600 That was kind of a fuck. Right. 348 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,600 First, was it though? 349 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:04,240 I think it was like an I helped you breakfast. 350 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,400 But then Nick Cage is trying to be like, you know, be nice. 351 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:08,780 He hasn't seen him in six years. 352 00:15:08,780 --> 00:15:12,980 Yeah. Nick Cage now runs a go kart track like in the middle of nowhere. 353 00:15:13,380 --> 00:15:15,440 He looks like he's having a great fucking day. 354 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:19,460 Also, you know, Memphis gets his pick of of the single moms. 355 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:22,920 Yeah, the tracks. 356 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:26,320 But the single moms that hang out in dirty go kart tracks. 357 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:30,020 Yeah. So I love that because my note for the go kart track is like, OK, 358 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:33,440 I want to go to a track and it just cuts to an old guy sitting in a chair. 359 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,600 Mike comes with its old old guy. Yeah. 360 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:37,300 As they all do. 361 00:15:37,300 --> 00:15:40,040 So Memphis has to get his old crew back together. 362 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:42,740 Boosting these cars. 363 00:15:42,740 --> 00:15:44,180 Sorry, you said boosting. 364 00:15:44,180 --> 00:15:46,820 I counted the times they said boosting this movie. 365 00:15:47,540 --> 00:15:49,780 15, only 15. Yeah. 366 00:15:49,780 --> 00:15:52,680 Hmm. They're going to go hard on it in the end where they like 367 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,280 keep calling each other a car boost and stuff like that. 368 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:57,760 15 still a lot. 369 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,860 It's a lot of times it's a lot of one word. Yeah. 370 00:15:59,860 --> 00:16:01,000 That is. Yeah. 371 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,260 Yeah. He's so he's got to get his old crew back together. 372 00:16:04,260 --> 00:16:08,160 A real who's who's of nobody's except for Vinnie Jones. 373 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,000 Wait, in terms of actors, because the actors are great. 374 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:11,740 Yeah. Vinnie Jones. 375 00:16:11,740 --> 00:16:14,640 Again, Vinnie Jones is in this who I love and everything. 376 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,280 He's the juggernaut bitch and she McBride. 377 00:16:18,420 --> 00:16:20,340 He plays. Yeah. 378 00:16:20,340 --> 00:16:22,180 So I love him. 379 00:16:22,180 --> 00:16:24,020 His character is great in this, too. 380 00:16:24,020 --> 00:16:26,220 My first exposure to him was in Boston Public. 381 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:28,660 Who? Black guy with the hat. 382 00:16:28,660 --> 00:16:30,180 Oh, OK. The bucket hat. 383 00:16:30,180 --> 00:16:30,920 Yeah. 384 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,360 Which this again, movie of a time. 385 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,460 He's introduced teaching an Asian woman how to drive. 386 00:16:36,460 --> 00:16:38,160 She cannot drive. 387 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,220 And then he talks about how he can't swim. 388 00:16:40,220 --> 00:16:43,560 Yeah. There's just something to be said about realism in film. 389 00:16:44,700 --> 00:16:46,400 Oh, what I want. 390 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,200 Keep that in there. 391 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:54,000 Because we see this Asian driver crash the car in the first act 392 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,680 in the second act when they're getting a list of all the cars. 393 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,920 We see her at the DMV crying because she failed her driver's test. 394 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,180 So the thing she says when she's at the DMV and she failed her test. 395 00:17:03,180 --> 00:17:06,280 Is you're supposed to speed up when someone's tailgating you. 396 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,680 Yeah, I thought that was good. 397 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,260 So in the third act, when the cops are chasing Memphis, 398 00:17:11,260 --> 00:17:15,500 I wanted to see her just back out and just like like hit a cop car 399 00:17:15,500 --> 00:17:18,760 to like stop one of the chases and she doesn't know what's going on. 400 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:20,600 That would have been a good finish to that. 401 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:21,600 Yeah. Three's right. 402 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:23,500 Yeah, it would have been funny. 403 00:17:23,500 --> 00:17:25,200 Chekov's racism. 404 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,700 Oh, my God. 405 00:17:27,700 --> 00:17:29,280 I assume Chekov was racist. 406 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:30,840 Yeah, me too. 407 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:32,840 Yeah. So 50 cars one night. 408 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,180 Angelina Jolie's in here for. 409 00:17:36,180 --> 00:17:37,520 Oh, reasons. 410 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,660 What is wrong with her look? 411 00:17:40,820 --> 00:17:41,620 Oh, my God. 412 00:17:41,620 --> 00:17:45,720 I've never been less attracted to her in my life. 413 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:50,500 And I'm sure that's not the point of her role for me to be attracted to her. 414 00:17:50,500 --> 00:17:54,300 But I'm pretty sure that's the I think that's why she is super weird, 415 00:17:54,300 --> 00:17:55,440 white dreadlocks. 416 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:59,880 She looked like she was one of the villains from the second Matrix movie. 417 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:03,260 Like she looked like one of those little ghosty people. 418 00:18:03,260 --> 00:18:05,860 So pale. Like did they powder her to? 419 00:18:05,860 --> 00:18:07,660 I dude, I don't know. 420 00:18:07,660 --> 00:18:09,160 Everyone looks like shit in this movie. 421 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,700 Looks like it's very one was hackers like 97 or something. 422 00:18:12,700 --> 00:18:16,200 OK, I was wondering if like she just came off hackers who just did this. 423 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,700 Well, so apparently this that role was written specifically for her. 424 00:18:19,900 --> 00:18:22,180 I mean, the role had nothing to it. 425 00:18:22,380 --> 00:18:25,040 That's what I mean is I think they inserted it just so they could have Angelina 426 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:26,080 Jolie in the movie. 427 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:27,440 Hackers was 1995. 428 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:28,440 OK, because yeah. 429 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,220 Oh yeah, Fisher Stevens. Her in Memphis used to be a thing. 430 00:18:31,220 --> 00:18:33,120 My high school theater teacher was in hackers. 431 00:18:33,120 --> 00:18:34,560 Oh, shit. That's cool. 432 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:36,280 She was roller skater. 433 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,120 I guess there wasn't much to her roles. 434 00:18:38,120 --> 00:18:39,820 All right. Just rolling. 435 00:18:39,820 --> 00:18:42,360 Yeah. But so Memphis and her used to have a thing. 436 00:18:42,360 --> 00:18:43,320 Then he disappeared. 437 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:44,920 Now she's gone legit. 438 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,740 So she can't join the crew until she just does. 439 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:52,100 Yeah. And then later on, there is a very uncomfortable 440 00:18:52,260 --> 00:18:55,800 car sexy scene, almost sex. 441 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,580 I also didn't understand how their legs were intertwined in that scene. 442 00:18:58,580 --> 00:19:00,020 I very confused. Yeah. 443 00:19:00,020 --> 00:19:01,480 Have you ever had sex in a car? 444 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:02,780 The front seats of a car? 445 00:19:02,780 --> 00:19:05,280 No, I've actually I don't think I've ever had sex in the car. 446 00:19:05,620 --> 00:19:08,660 I've tried. I've had sex in the front seat of a car, but it was a minivan. 447 00:19:08,660 --> 00:19:10,260 So there was some space. 448 00:19:10,260 --> 00:19:11,760 I did it in a GEO. 449 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:13,120 In a GEO? Yeah. 450 00:19:13,120 --> 00:19:14,720 It's one a metro storm. 451 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,200 OK, damn. All right. 452 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,300 Respect. I mean, it's no metro. 453 00:19:19,300 --> 00:19:20,760 Have you ever been in a GEO store? 454 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:22,160 No, but I've been in a GEO metro. 455 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,360 Oh, yeah. It's about the same amount of space. 456 00:19:24,360 --> 00:19:26,700 Less backseat in a storm. 457 00:19:26,700 --> 00:19:29,540 The sports car of the GEO. 458 00:19:29,540 --> 00:19:31,380 It is it had all four cylinders. 459 00:19:31,380 --> 00:19:34,140 This is this is relevant for this movie, certainly. 460 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:35,480 Yeah, we're a car. 461 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,880 That's definitely a car that was taken over for. 462 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:39,680 What is it? Scrich and scratch on car talk. 463 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:40,680 Oh, yeah. Click and clack. 464 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:44,280 Yeah, we do have a very quintessential Nick Cage moment in the film, 465 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:47,620 because right when he's going back to being a hardened criminal, 466 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,480 he gets his crime jacket. Yeah, crime jacket. 467 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:52,220 I love a jacket. 468 00:19:52,220 --> 00:19:55,660 And then he says, I'm a bad man. 469 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,760 Which is basically as good as if he had said, Cranton. 470 00:19:58,800 --> 00:19:59,660 Yeah, Cranton. 471 00:19:59,660 --> 00:20:01,900 Cranton jacket. What would your crime jacket be? 472 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,540 I feel like, you know, that kind of purple velour 473 00:20:05,900 --> 00:20:08,580 coat that he's got in that Dead by Daylight game. 474 00:20:08,980 --> 00:20:10,540 Like, oh, yeah, I think that'd be my look. 475 00:20:10,540 --> 00:20:12,440 Just Nicholas Cage's actual jacket. Yeah. 476 00:20:13,580 --> 00:20:15,740 I would probably wear 477 00:20:15,740 --> 00:20:19,340 like one of those fleece lined bomber jackets. 478 00:20:19,380 --> 00:20:20,460 Oh, that's good. 479 00:20:20,460 --> 00:20:25,420 I'm going to go with like, oh, like a deer skin vest. 480 00:20:25,620 --> 00:20:27,260 Not a jacket, but like a vest. 481 00:20:27,260 --> 00:20:29,120 Nice. Does it have fringe? 482 00:20:29,120 --> 00:20:31,320 Sure. Cool. And turquoise. 483 00:20:31,460 --> 00:20:32,260 Yes. 484 00:20:33,940 --> 00:20:34,700 Coterie. 485 00:20:36,700 --> 00:20:37,940 Coterie jacket. 486 00:20:37,940 --> 00:20:40,540 Nice. Very on brand. 487 00:20:40,540 --> 00:20:42,000 Or a windbreaker. 488 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,800 Ooh, so good for best. 489 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:45,640 Crime. 490 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:54,480 So, yeah, this movie is not a movie that anybody watches for the plot. 491 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:58,020 I think it's fair to not talk about that any further. 492 00:20:58,020 --> 00:20:59,660 No, it's a Bruckheimer movie. 493 00:20:59,660 --> 00:21:01,260 Yes. You're here for some explosion. 494 00:21:01,260 --> 00:21:05,720 Yeah, it's two hours of boosting cars. 495 00:21:06,120 --> 00:21:08,960 You get to watch them steal cars in various 496 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,240 manners between either like 497 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:16,340 getting keys made from the dealership to like go steal them. 498 00:21:16,340 --> 00:21:19,740 Or at one point, they when that fails for a couple of cars, 499 00:21:19,740 --> 00:21:23,880 they break into the police impound and steal cars 500 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,320 that they tried to steal earlier and already had keys for. 501 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:31,660 They steal one nice car that just has like a door open button underneath it. 502 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,100 Oh, yeah. That was a nice car. That was cool. 503 00:21:34,100 --> 00:21:35,260 It was like a hot rod. 504 00:21:35,260 --> 00:21:36,400 Why would you have that? 505 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,800 Yeah, don't don't have a little door open button. 506 00:21:38,900 --> 00:21:41,160 They steal a car from Dr. Kelso. 507 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,560 Oh, yeah. Which tells me this movie is in the Scrubs universe. 508 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:46,360 What's the one where he's an ambulance? 509 00:21:46,360 --> 00:21:49,660 Oh, yeah. Bringing out the bringing out the dead has Carla's in there. 510 00:21:49,660 --> 00:21:51,740 Yeah. So as a nurse, as a nurse. 511 00:21:51,740 --> 00:21:54,940 So I'm just saying like all the cage films happen in the Scrubs universe. 512 00:21:55,440 --> 00:22:00,180 So you're saying that is the scrubs is actually in the NCU. 513 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,740 Yeah. Which makes me think in the NCU, 514 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,680 Nicolas Cage is the most generic looking person. 515 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,380 Yeah. Similar to like how I'm super generic looking. 516 00:22:09,380 --> 00:22:12,860 He's now the every man in cages. 517 00:22:12,860 --> 00:22:15,060 Every man of the cage, Brockheimer films. 518 00:22:15,060 --> 00:22:18,500 I feel this is the one that just goes from the word go. 519 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:22,860 It doesn't really ever slow down and it doesn't feel like two hours for me. 520 00:22:23,060 --> 00:22:24,500 No, it's just action. Yeah. 521 00:22:24,500 --> 00:22:26,600 And that's what it should be. Yeah. 522 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,000 So it's car chases. 523 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:32,780 It's cars being stolen a little bit of like criminal intrigue 524 00:22:32,900 --> 00:22:36,380 as they outsmart cops and those cops were kind of cool. 525 00:22:36,420 --> 00:22:38,280 So like, you know, we tried good cop, bad cop. 526 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,280 I kind of liked both of those cops. 527 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:41,620 Yeah, they were fine. 528 00:22:41,620 --> 00:22:45,420 They put the heat to that one guy who just works at the docks. 529 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,720 He's just like, come on, man, I'm just trying to do my job. 530 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:48,820 Well, we're going to talk to your boss. 531 00:22:48,820 --> 00:22:52,500 I'm like, fine. Well, that's I mean, people on parole aren't people. 532 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,760 Sean, I was going to say, 533 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,040 does anybody even know which one of us is which? 534 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,840 And I'm like, no, that's only in photos that people don't know which one is. 535 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,380 I introduce myself every time. 536 00:23:03,380 --> 00:23:05,040 Yeah, they know which one's mine. 537 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:06,600 Identifiable voice and all. 538 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,380 That'd be a weird long con if you were actually Sean. 539 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,480 Yeah, it's just a huge bit. 540 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:15,220 We just switched it up from that one time when Sean fucked up the intro. 541 00:23:15,220 --> 00:23:16,220 We did. Yeah. 542 00:23:16,220 --> 00:23:18,360 We talked about that for Nick and Sean's podcast 543 00:23:18,360 --> 00:23:20,280 where we're going to switch names to like our names have been changed 544 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,020 to protect the innocent. Yeah. 545 00:23:22,020 --> 00:23:24,160 I was going to say, so I looked into some of the like the writing 546 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,260 and stuff like that, and the guy that wrote this also wrote High Fidelity, 547 00:23:27,420 --> 00:23:29,200 which is like the most talky movie. 548 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:30,660 Yeah, it's like the most strange. 549 00:23:30,660 --> 00:23:34,960 Yeah. But also J.J. Abrams did uncredited rewrites. 550 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,900 Yeah, he did a lot of punch up work kind of in this era. 551 00:23:37,900 --> 00:23:41,640 He's he's sort of uncredited on a lot of movies to try and make like 552 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,140 a little more interesting, funnier, snappier dialogue. 553 00:23:45,140 --> 00:23:48,240 Interesting. The director also directed Season of the Witch. 554 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:49,880 Yeah. See, I did the work. 555 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,620 That's just good because we did. Oh, great. 556 00:23:52,620 --> 00:23:54,420 People don't come here for facts. 557 00:23:54,420 --> 00:23:56,020 I was very nervous about being bad at this. 558 00:23:56,020 --> 00:23:58,460 So don't worry. We set the bar real low. Yeah. 559 00:23:58,460 --> 00:24:01,160 Great. We set you up to succeed. Yeah. 560 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:06,660 Yeah. OK. Favorite chasing. 561 00:24:07,220 --> 00:24:08,800 I mean, the last one's really. 562 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,660 I know there's really only the one, but it's huge and it's great. 563 00:24:11,660 --> 00:24:12,460 Yeah. Yeah. 564 00:24:12,460 --> 00:24:16,700 Well, he's in the Mustang, Eleanor, his white whale, his unicorn, 565 00:24:16,740 --> 00:24:20,900 his unicorn, which was like there's only one of these in the city. 566 00:24:21,180 --> 00:24:23,840 It's going to be the easiest one to track down if the cops get on to you. 567 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:25,480 Why not just steal it first? 568 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,520 I mean, it's because he's worried about it 569 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,440 because every time he's tried to steal this car, it's gone bad. 570 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,440 And then it goes problem. Let's be real. Yeah. 571 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,540 I did like when he was trying to find the car. 572 00:24:33,540 --> 00:24:35,840 He goes to the dealership and he talks to that guy. 573 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:37,980 So Nick Cage goes into this dealership. 574 00:24:37,980 --> 00:24:39,740 It's like a Ferrari dealership. 575 00:24:39,740 --> 00:24:42,940 And he's acting out this character 576 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,480 just being very kind of foppish. 577 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,060 And the the dealer comes up to him. He's like, can I help you? 578 00:24:49,060 --> 00:24:50,660 He's like, perhaps. 579 00:24:50,660 --> 00:24:54,260 Hmm. But you know, this is the one. 580 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:55,520 Yes, yes, yes. 581 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,200 I saw three of these parked outside the local Starbucks this morning, 582 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,300 which tells me one thing. 583 00:25:01,300 --> 00:25:06,880 There's too many self-indulgent wieners in this city with too much bloody money. 584 00:25:07,380 --> 00:25:11,940 Now, if I was driving a 1967 to 75 GTB for Cam. 585 00:25:13,380 --> 00:25:16,120 So you obviously knew what you were coming in here for. 586 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,680 But he says wiener. And I liked that. 587 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:19,560 You just like the wiener part. 588 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,620 Well, yeah, I wrote it down because he said wiener. 589 00:25:21,620 --> 00:25:23,260 I just wrote down self-indulgent wiener. 590 00:25:23,260 --> 00:25:26,460 Yeah. What I like, though, is it's so corny, but he just goes, 591 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,700 your name's Roger. I'm Roger. 592 00:25:28,700 --> 00:25:30,060 Two Rogers don't make a right. 593 00:25:30,060 --> 00:25:32,700 And it's like, that's such a shitty joke, but it's perfect. 594 00:25:32,700 --> 00:25:35,800 Beautiful for that character that that character is playing. 595 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,240 Well, from a long quote to a really short one, when he meets Chris 596 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,540 Rackle some of the first time and Chris Rackle's like, do I look like an asshole to you? 597 00:25:43,780 --> 00:25:47,080 Yeah. Yeah, it's a short quote. 598 00:25:48,140 --> 00:25:50,020 I'm always so flustered in these situations. 599 00:25:50,020 --> 00:25:53,160 So like he ends up throwing the, you know, 10,000 bucks or whatever 600 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,460 it was back at Cage's face and nobody collected that money. 601 00:25:56,460 --> 00:25:57,620 And it always drives me crazy. 602 00:25:57,620 --> 00:26:01,660 I know it's like that other one where they in a rage where he doesn't recollect his money. 603 00:26:01,660 --> 00:26:05,140 It's like, yeah, money goes into the poker game, puts the money down 604 00:26:05,140 --> 00:26:06,760 and just start stabbing people and leaves. 605 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,340 It's like, wait a minute. 606 00:26:08,340 --> 00:26:10,440 This isn't like a pay to play situation. 607 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,940 You don't have to like pay money to stab somebody. 608 00:26:12,940 --> 00:26:15,740 Yeah, I'm pretty sure you can just stabbing are usually free. Yeah. 609 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:17,940 John, do you have a quote? 610 00:26:17,940 --> 00:26:19,680 Oh, I have many. 611 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,920 The one that's not actually by Nick Cage is by Timothy Oliphant's 612 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,980 detective guy who very inconsistent, by the way, 613 00:26:26,980 --> 00:26:29,960 like sometimes he's schmarmie, sometimes he's very serious. 614 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:30,960 I could not put it on him. 615 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:32,720 Stupid. Like, yeah. 616 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,060 But also sometimes smart. 617 00:26:34,060 --> 00:26:35,760 Yeah, very confusing character. 618 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:40,300 Anyway, so at one time he says to Nick, by the time you get out, asshole, 619 00:26:40,300 --> 00:26:44,600 there won't even be cars will be all coming or driving around in. 620 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,280 Spaceships. 621 00:26:48,980 --> 00:26:53,380 I loved how much Timothy Oliphant's character annoyed the other cop. 622 00:26:53,380 --> 00:26:58,260 Like he kept saying things like when he says the other cop's wife is mean. 623 00:26:58,460 --> 00:27:01,160 Oh, yeah. And that look he gets in return. 624 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,700 Well, she is. Yeah. 625 00:27:03,700 --> 00:27:06,000 She can be a little mean. Yeah. 626 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:06,900 That was a good character. 627 00:27:06,900 --> 00:27:10,800 That was probably the best side character, like supporting character 628 00:27:11,100 --> 00:27:13,780 in this movie. Yeah. 629 00:27:13,780 --> 00:27:16,740 My favorite cage line, it comes at the end when being Reims finally talks. 630 00:27:16,980 --> 00:27:20,820 And he just like, not being Reims of Vinny Jones. 631 00:27:20,820 --> 00:27:23,380 Who's racist now? 632 00:27:23,380 --> 00:27:28,020 Vinny Jones's line of wax is poetically at the end of the film for the first time. 633 00:27:28,360 --> 00:27:32,920 And then Nick Cage just goes, Hey, man, I thought you were from Long Beach 634 00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:34,960 and shrugs. 635 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,940 My favorite quote from this is definitely I mean, it's not 636 00:27:38,660 --> 00:27:41,800 it's just one that I use a lot in my life. 637 00:27:42,300 --> 00:27:45,280 They're getting ready to go out into do their boos. 638 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,140 And Nick Cage just preps and he's like. 639 00:27:48,140 --> 00:27:50,340 OK, let's ride. 640 00:27:50,340 --> 00:27:52,540 And that's it. They're listening to low rider. 641 00:27:52,540 --> 00:27:55,240 Yeah. And all the all the young all the young kids are like, 642 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:56,440 what the fuck is going on? 643 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,980 And all like the old school boosters are just like. 644 00:27:59,980 --> 00:28:01,420 Shut up. Yeah, it's a hype moment. 645 00:28:01,420 --> 00:28:03,380 Yeah. But I don't know. 646 00:28:03,380 --> 00:28:05,860 I say that all the time and I love it. 647 00:28:05,860 --> 00:28:07,960 I wanted it to be tied to the music cue better. 648 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,200 He just like just random does it randomly. 649 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:11,960 Yeah. I mean, it was it was internal. 650 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,660 I guess it's hard. You got to you got to rev up. 651 00:28:14,660 --> 00:28:15,700 Yeah. 652 00:28:15,700 --> 00:28:18,800 I will say one thing. We've been talking about Vinnie Jones. 653 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,540 That it about him not talking. 654 00:28:20,540 --> 00:28:21,540 Did anybody else pick up? 655 00:28:21,540 --> 00:28:23,500 He actually talks earlier in the movie as well. 656 00:28:23,500 --> 00:28:26,680 So when they're prying open the like security box thing in the garage, 657 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,440 the guy. Yeah, thank you. 658 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:29,940 He he's having a hard time. 659 00:28:29,940 --> 00:28:33,480 And so Vinnie Jones comes in with like a screwdriver and says very quietly 660 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,680 like this and prize it open. 661 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,820 Oh, I was like, really? Did I hear that? 662 00:28:37,820 --> 00:28:39,160 Sphinx. It was it. 663 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:40,560 I just rewatched that scene over. 664 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,220 It's a knife. And then 665 00:28:42,220 --> 00:28:44,820 Mirror Man Mirror Man. 666 00:28:44,820 --> 00:28:46,700 Why is that the hardest wonder? 667 00:28:46,700 --> 00:28:48,600 I don't remember. But what's the other? 668 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,540 Mirror Man like he was a man with mirrors on his whole time 669 00:28:52,540 --> 00:28:54,440 and just tells him he's going to kick his ass and being a gun. 670 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:55,640 Just like holds the knife up to him. 671 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,900 He's like, man, why are you going to take it so seriously? 672 00:28:57,900 --> 00:29:02,440 I liked that pairing of all the like groups to be put together. 673 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:06,340 Vinnie Jones and Mirror Man, TJ Cross is the actor. 674 00:29:06,340 --> 00:29:10,080 They are the best combination because he's the best. 675 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,380 They are the best combination because he never shuts up 676 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,260 and Vinnie never talks. 677 00:29:16,460 --> 00:29:19,360 Did you guys get the Michael Pena sighting? 678 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,760 Yes. As the stereotype. 679 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,460 Hello. Yeah. OK. 680 00:29:23,460 --> 00:29:25,240 So that's what that was. OK. Yeah. 681 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:30,000 So Eleanor, the Mustang, has such a weird fucking history in Hollywood 682 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:34,380 because the character or the car is trademarked from the first film. 683 00:29:34,740 --> 00:29:38,280 And the wife of the original creator 684 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,580 apparently still owns the trademark and is super lawsuit happy. 685 00:29:41,580 --> 00:29:46,420 If anyone ever tries to like use Eleanor or even tries to paint their Mustang 686 00:29:46,420 --> 00:29:49,120 that color, she like just sends an army of lawyers after him. 687 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,280 It sounds like an asshole. Yeah. What color? Vaguely silver. 688 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,820 Yeah. Like the specific paint with a specific stripe. 689 00:29:54,820 --> 00:29:58,320 She like and we'll never know. The 70s were in black and white. 690 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,760 This has never been tried because she just sends so many threatening 691 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,660 like her goons out that people just they're like, I don't want to have 692 00:30:05,660 --> 00:30:08,840 to pay to deal with this, but she always takes these people's cars. 693 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:14,480 There was a guy online who was building a like robo car of Eleanor 694 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,480 and she sent her goons out and they like took it and he still doesn't have it 695 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,020 because he doesn't have the money to fight that lawsuit. 696 00:30:21,020 --> 00:30:23,180 She's she's a. Yeah. Yeah. 697 00:30:23,180 --> 00:30:26,020 There's a story here. Do we? There is this this lady. 698 00:30:26,020 --> 00:30:29,220 Oh, we got to go steal Eleanor. Multiple. 699 00:30:29,220 --> 00:30:31,900 Yeah. Weird little history to this film. 700 00:30:31,900 --> 00:30:34,300 It's been gone in 60 years. 701 00:30:34,300 --> 00:30:36,840 I mean, she will die soon, I'm sure. 702 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,500 That's fair. They never actually like say that in this movie, though. 703 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,500 What that an old lady is hanging on to the. 704 00:30:41,500 --> 00:30:43,180 Yeah. Now they never talk about that. 705 00:30:43,180 --> 00:30:44,900 That thing that happened years later. 706 00:30:44,900 --> 00:30:47,340 No, but the God in 60 seconds, which I assume is just like 707 00:30:47,340 --> 00:30:49,340 if you're stealing a car, you want to be gone in 60 seconds. 708 00:30:49,340 --> 00:30:52,920 Oh, I know this because I did the research. Yeah. 709 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,520 So when they're at the 710 00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:00,820 the impound lot behind them is a sign from the original movie that says, 711 00:31:00,820 --> 00:31:04,000 if you leave your car unlocked, it will be gone in 60 seconds. 712 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,680 Yeah. And now, you know, dear listeners, background posters. 713 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:09,340 That's where the story is. 714 00:31:09,340 --> 00:31:12,220 The story in this is all about that air tank 715 00:31:12,420 --> 00:31:17,020 that gets dropped and pinballs off of four different cop cars in the final. 716 00:31:17,020 --> 00:31:20,020 That chase scene is great. It is resolved. 717 00:31:20,020 --> 00:31:20,720 It's got everything. 718 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,660 It's got construction workers who don't give a fuck. 719 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,400 Yeah, I really wanted to see like a plate glass being 720 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,260 oh, yeah, parted across the street. 721 00:31:28,260 --> 00:31:31,660 We get a or a painting of an alleyway that they drive into. 722 00:31:31,660 --> 00:31:35,200 I mean, it's practically there. The wrecking ball like slams a cop car 723 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,800 through a wall. Are you OK, man? 724 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,040 Good. Are you OK, man? 725 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,500 Yeah, because you just went through a wall. 726 00:31:45,900 --> 00:31:46,900 Another quotable moment. 727 00:31:46,900 --> 00:31:47,940 Yeah, it was good. 728 00:31:47,940 --> 00:31:50,840 Something about this movie that really got me is like Nicholas Cage 729 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,980 really is the straight man through the movie. 730 00:31:53,180 --> 00:31:58,560 Everybody else has some like fun character piece to them 731 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,020 or like moment and he just doesn't. 732 00:32:02,020 --> 00:32:07,120 The closest he gets is like dry humping Angelina Jolie in a car. 733 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,460 That's it. I really enjoyed it. It was a lot of fun. 734 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:11,900 That's the thing about it. 735 00:32:11,900 --> 00:32:14,760 It's like there's nothing to sink your teeth into. 736 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,460 There's no story. There's no. 737 00:32:16,460 --> 00:32:20,280 Well, I mean, there's a story, but it's like summed up in two sentences. 738 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,940 But but it is fun. 739 00:32:22,940 --> 00:32:27,520 It's well designed action and it has a good pace. 740 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:28,720 Yeah, it's car porn. 741 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,760 Yeah, there's not a lot of meat on the bone, but damn fine bone. 742 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,540 So I asked my wife if she wanted to watch this with me and she's like, 743 00:32:34,540 --> 00:32:39,400 No, I've seen this like eight times in 15 minute intervals on TBS over the years. 744 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:40,780 That's how I'd seen this movie before. 745 00:32:40,780 --> 00:32:43,080 Yeah. And that's rough. 746 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,840 Why not as it was intended to be consumed, certainly. 747 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,580 But commercial breaks in an action movie. 748 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,860 Kill me because it drains all momentum from the movie. 749 00:32:53,460 --> 00:32:54,560 I feel sorry for her. 750 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,820 If she wants to come over and watch it, we can. 751 00:32:56,820 --> 00:32:57,700 Oh, bring her on for. 752 00:32:57,700 --> 00:32:58,320 Well, never mind. 753 00:32:58,320 --> 00:32:59,600 I guess we don't know if this goes forward or not. 754 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,000 I was like, bring her on for the second season. 755 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:01,700 There you go. 756 00:33:02,860 --> 00:33:05,740 I thought you were going to imply that the podcast fails. 757 00:33:07,140 --> 00:33:08,460 I don't know if this is going to keep going. 758 00:33:08,460 --> 00:33:09,500 I was like, Oh, yeah, you're right. 759 00:33:09,500 --> 00:33:10,740 This could be the last episode. 760 00:33:10,740 --> 00:33:12,200 Er, er, er. 761 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:12,840 Ouch. 762 00:33:13,500 --> 00:33:15,540 What do you guys put it on the diagram? 763 00:33:15,540 --> 00:33:17,540 The good cage, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, really? 764 00:33:17,540 --> 00:33:19,120 Caged movie, bad, good. 765 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:20,380 I am not working well today. 766 00:33:20,380 --> 00:33:21,620 No, it's morning. 767 00:33:21,620 --> 00:33:23,540 Morning suck. Yeah. 768 00:33:23,540 --> 00:33:27,020 I feel good about the cage and good about the movie. 769 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,120 Yeah, I would agree. 770 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,520 Yeah, not cage is best performance, but far from his worst. 771 00:33:32,820 --> 00:33:33,200 Yeah. 772 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,120 Mid cage. Really fun movie. 773 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:37,760 Ghostwriter, spirit of vengeance. 774 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,260 I love it. 775 00:33:39,900 --> 00:33:40,840 I'm done. 776 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,140 That's all I got to say. Good. 777 00:33:42,140 --> 00:33:44,340 All right. I also kind of loved it, weirdly enough. 778 00:33:44,340 --> 00:33:47,540 It's fucking wacky and I am here for it. 779 00:33:47,540 --> 00:33:50,980 So this is from the same director as Mom and Dad and the crash films. 780 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:52,580 Crank. Crank. 781 00:33:52,580 --> 00:33:55,140 Yeah. Crash is very different. 782 00:33:55,780 --> 00:33:57,040 Crank films. 783 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:01,480 And by and large, this film is shot as if it's like a mid range 784 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:06,900 BBC action drama until you actually get to the action scenes, 785 00:34:06,900 --> 00:34:10,960 at which point it goes off the fucking rails and I am 100 percent here for it. 786 00:34:11,500 --> 00:34:12,800 I really enjoyed it. 787 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,060 I'm concerned that it got misplaced in our bracket. 788 00:34:16,340 --> 00:34:18,540 Like it could have been a fucking weird one. 789 00:34:18,540 --> 00:34:20,540 Yeah, it probably should have been. 790 00:34:20,540 --> 00:34:23,740 It fits fine in both because it is good action. 791 00:34:23,740 --> 00:34:26,180 There's, you know, motorcycle riding. 792 00:34:26,180 --> 00:34:29,080 There's oh, OK. 793 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,480 When he turns that vehicle like at the quarry, 794 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,180 that one of his yeah, into one of his hell beasts. 795 00:34:35,220 --> 00:34:37,380 It's like, oh, that thing is so cool. 796 00:34:37,380 --> 00:34:39,920 I literally when they first comes up on the screen, I'm literally like, 797 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,760 there's no way that's a real thing that looks way too menacing. Yeah. 798 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,600 And then I went on the Wikipedia page and they're like, yeah, 799 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,500 this was the heaviest land vehicle for like 20 years in the earth. 800 00:34:48,500 --> 00:34:50,940 So we were Sean and I were walking the other day 801 00:34:50,940 --> 00:34:54,040 and we were talking about how everything turns into a hell vehicle. 802 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,800 Right. And Ghost Rider, how many miles did you go, by the way? 803 00:34:56,900 --> 00:34:59,240 Oh, we're getting dangerously close. 804 00:35:00,700 --> 00:35:03,940 So in Ghost Rider one, we know from the old rider 805 00:35:03,940 --> 00:35:05,980 that the horse can become a hell horse. 806 00:35:05,980 --> 00:35:08,520 Yes. So literally anything can become a hell whatever. 807 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,620 So I was like, could we just like jump on 808 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,260 Sean's shoulders and turn him into a horse? 809 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,560 What if he's taking a dump and he like pushes a little too hard? 810 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:21,360 And then the toilet flames out and he's just riding a hell toilet. 811 00:35:21,700 --> 00:35:23,260 I love it. That's pretty good, too. 812 00:35:23,260 --> 00:35:24,700 Not a vehicle, though. 813 00:35:24,700 --> 00:35:27,760 I mean, it's a vehicle for poop, but Sean is definitely a vehicle. 814 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,500 It's a vehicle for deep thoughts. 815 00:35:30,500 --> 00:35:39,940 So spirit of vengeance, Nicholas Cage is back as Johnny Blaze, the ghost rider. 816 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,680 He has been running from his deal with the devil, 817 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,220 trying to get away from himself and find a cure 818 00:35:45,220 --> 00:35:48,820 only to wind up trying to track down the son of Satan 819 00:35:48,820 --> 00:35:52,880 to save him from becoming the devil's form on Earth. 820 00:35:53,380 --> 00:35:57,560 Also starring Idris Elba with the worst French accent ever. 821 00:35:58,020 --> 00:36:00,620 He was nominated for an award for that, like a real one, not a Razzie. 822 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,560 Really? No. Uh huh. 823 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,060 Why? I don't. 824 00:36:04,060 --> 00:36:06,360 It wasn't a BAFTA, but it was like a knockoff BAFTA. 825 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:12,800 OK. No, she wasn't a real American award for a decent French accent. 826 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,480 I had to think about what BAFTA stood for. 827 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:18,040 It's British Academy of Film and TV Actors. 828 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:19,980 OK. Was it a British Razzie? 829 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:22,220 I don't think so. 830 00:36:22,220 --> 00:36:23,880 They got nominated for a lot of Razzie's, too, though. 831 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,060 Yeah. What was up with his contacts? 832 00:36:26,060 --> 00:36:27,520 Like his eyes were just weird. 833 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,960 Why did he need weird contact with your eyes? 834 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:31,720 Yeah, it's strange. 835 00:36:31,720 --> 00:36:34,200 But I liked him. He was just a drunk French dude. 836 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:35,200 Oh, yeah. Yeah. 837 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,460 Especially at the end when he's like, got the super old bottles of wine. 838 00:36:38,460 --> 00:36:40,360 Yeah, I love when they. 839 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:41,800 So go good on a salad. 840 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:42,800 That was fun. 841 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,780 I think when Peter and I discussed this a little bit, my description of this film is 842 00:36:46,780 --> 00:36:51,280 it's Ghost Rider with a lower budget, but they spent the money correctly 843 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,120 in that they spent the money on the action scenes. 844 00:36:54,120 --> 00:37:00,320 Everything else that isn't an action scene is very hammy, very over, like overly dramatic, 845 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:01,820 overly acted. 846 00:37:01,820 --> 00:37:06,420 The supporting cast is you have Giles from Anthony Stewart Head from Buffy 847 00:37:06,420 --> 00:37:09,000 as a priest who dies in five minutes. 848 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:13,700 And then later, you have the Highlander, who, according to IMDB, did three months of sword 849 00:37:13,700 --> 00:37:16,600 training for this movie, which I'm like, bullshit. 850 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:21,680 I think I believe that because the way he whips that sword around when it all goes dark 851 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,680 after, you know, he's trying to behead her or whatever, or behead the kid like that looks 852 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,320 professional. Well, the only. 853 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,480 But he's the Highlander. He shouldn't need to train. 854 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,720 Right. So the only reason the sword play, I think, looks better in this film than it 855 00:37:32,720 --> 00:37:34,920 does in the Highlander is that man is legally blind. 856 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,920 So if they just put him in a great place, he's going to be like, oh, I'm going to be 857 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,360 blind. So if they just put him in a dark room and they're like, look cool with a sword, 858 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,960 easy when he has to like sword fight with live steel against someone else, they have 859 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,040 to stand five feet away from each other because he can't see what he's doing. 860 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:52,880 Most people have to stand like five feet away from each other in a sword fight. 861 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,800 This isn't the blindness thing. Most people have to stand pretty close. 862 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,800 You're thinking of knife fights. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. 863 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,920 What if you have one of those like Sephiroth swords that are really long? 864 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:05,520 Oh, yeah. OK. Well, then you could probably stand nine feet away from each other. 865 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:06,520 Cool. 866 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,160 It's not a direct sequel. 867 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:09,760 It's more of a reboot. 868 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,560 Yeah, it feels like a soft reboot. 869 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:15,520 Yeah. Peter Fonda was interested in coming back for this. 870 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,760 I read I thought he was dead at this point. 871 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,040 Yeah. Oh, apparently he was interested in coming back to play the devil again. 872 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,280 Read five pages of the script and said no. 873 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:24,400 Well, I don't blame him. 874 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,680 I mean, there actually is not much of a script to this movie. 875 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:27,840 That's the biggest fault to it. 876 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,240 But I fucking hated Ghost Rider one. 877 00:38:30,240 --> 00:38:33,640 And I thought this movie was a blast and it because it was nothing. 878 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,320 It was popcorn. It was candy in my mouth. 879 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,160 And then at the end, I was like, I could have more candy. 880 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:40,880 And it was sub 90 minutes. 881 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,680 And it was an hour. 29. 882 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,440 It's so fucking nice. Yeah. 883 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:45,320 That is refreshing. 884 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,600 Nick Cage is not in great shape in this film, but he's in the leather jacket 885 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,720 the whole time, so it doesn't really matter. 886 00:38:50,720 --> 00:38:54,920 I love the fact that he's just kind of like this old beaten down like Ghost Rider. 887 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,040 The style in this, though, is cool, man. 888 00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:01,640 Like I liked it. Yeah, I like the insertion of like the little animated bits. 889 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:03,880 Yeah. Or illustrated bits. 890 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:04,920 Oh, really? 891 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,760 I thought it was a fine way to like tell us more, John. 892 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:12,320 Frequent listeners of me and not this podcast will know that I've done 893 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,520 a little bit of writing and like that just strikes me as such lazy. 894 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,000 Like, yes, I realize the writing in this movie is blah, blah, blah. 895 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,120 Also, can we talk about why? 896 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:24,200 Because the writers that were involved in this movie are like accomplished writers. 897 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,000 There's no reason this should be this bad. 898 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,520 Yeah. Probably time limits. 899 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,760 They're like, we'll pay you for a movie in like 900 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,760 give us a movie in a week, two weeks. Yeah. 901 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,880 I mean, we're talking about the people that did Batman. 902 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:39,400 The good ones. 903 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:39,800 David S. 904 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,440 Goyer. Yeah, David S. Goyer wrote this. 905 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,800 He's also written the worst of the blades. 906 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,160 He directed Blade Trinity. I love Blade Trinity. 907 00:39:46,240 --> 00:39:47,840 I kind of like Blade Trinity, too. 908 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,080 It is the worst of the blades, though. 909 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,560 But I think it's because I like What's Her Face. 910 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,240 I just like Round Rounds. I was going to say, right. 911 00:39:54,240 --> 00:39:56,160 Oh, no, not Beal. 912 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,320 The bad vampire villain. 913 00:39:58,320 --> 00:39:59,720 I like the bad girls. 914 00:39:59,720 --> 00:40:01,280 Was it Parker Posey? Is that who it is? 915 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:05,160 I think so. Parker Posey, such a bad girl. Real bad. 916 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,240 Yeah. I was thinking of January Jones. 917 00:40:07,240 --> 00:40:09,560 Oh, she's a bad girl, too. 918 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,640 I just like calling girls bad girls. 919 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,040 Sean, you're a bad girl. Thank you. 920 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:15,320 You know, spanking. 921 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,640 Balls, big round balls. 922 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,600 So yeah, Johnny Blaze has to get Danny, the son of the devil. 923 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:24,320 I'm just going to go back to it. 924 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,200 I was like, fuck you guys. 925 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:27,600 I'm not a bad girl. 926 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:28,720 I said, thank you. 927 00:40:28,720 --> 00:40:32,440 I said, when you say you're going to spank me. 928 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,240 OK, this is another movie where the plot doesn't fucking matter. 929 00:40:35,240 --> 00:40:39,440 The devil Rourke wants Danny because they can do a soul transfer 930 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,960 and then the devil can have his full power on Earth. 931 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:43,200 That's the story. 932 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:44,760 Nothing. It doesn't matter. 933 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,280 Johnny's trying to track him down. 934 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,440 And the deal is Idris Elba's. 935 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,320 Clandestine monk group can remove the ghost rider from him. 936 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,200 But it turns out they really only needed Idris Elba 937 00:40:55,720 --> 00:40:57,200 because the rest of the monks didn't help. 938 00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,000 Yeah, they just wanted to kill it. 939 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,600 Yeah. But like what kind of assholes are they that they wouldn't just do that 940 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:02,560 for free? 941 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,920 They're supposed to be some kind of weird Christian monk order thing 942 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,560 like seems like eliminating a hell demon from the surface of the earth 943 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,280 would be kind of up their alley. 944 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,240 Yeah, but face tattoos aren't cheap. 945 00:41:12,240 --> 00:41:13,960 And they had a lot of face tattoo. 946 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:15,120 They did have a lot of. 947 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,640 Apparently, Chris Lambert hated the makeup so much 948 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,160 that he just didn't take it off and would just go back to his hotel with that. 949 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,600 I think that's what the decay guy did as well, 950 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:28,280 because his makeup went from like very thick and white at the beginning 951 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,320 towards the end. It was like kind of pink and sweaty. 952 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:33,880 Yeah. Blackout. 953 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,360 Oh, OK. Yeah. 954 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,640 Things are showing through the scenes a little bit in terms of the. 955 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,320 You can see where the budget was, and it was on one. 956 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,200 The ghost rider looks fucking awesome. 957 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,120 Yeah, I completely agree. 958 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,680 Any like we said, any vehicle he rides in this becomes a hell vehicle. 959 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,080 And like Danny's even like, well, what if you get in a taxi? 960 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,200 What if you ride a camel? 961 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:57,440 Hell taxi. I really wanted him like I want a ghost rider movie 962 00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,840 where he gets in a monster truck. 963 00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:01,440 I want to see him drive Grave Digger. 964 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:02,320 Well, I want. 965 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,080 Here's the thing is to be so sick alarms bouncing around. 966 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,080 This movie had truckasaurus. 967 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:09,640 Hell truckasaurus. 968 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,680 This movie had so many great little ideas that I really wish it 969 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,960 would have done well off to get a third one of these films for sure. 970 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,280 With these same directors, that would have been so much fun 971 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:21,280 to let them do what they did, but with an actual budget. 972 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,000 You write a letter to Kevin Feige. 973 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,960 Yeah, it's funny because it so the budget was like 974 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:30,160 anywhere between that says 57, 17 and 23 dollars. 975 00:42:30,720 --> 00:42:32,560 Somewhere between 17 and 23. 976 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:33,400 And it did make a profit. 977 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,720 It made 132, which, you know, you had advertising and all that stuff. 978 00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:40,080 It's like that's not great money, but it wasn't a fucking bomb. 979 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:41,720 Well, it wasn't the states, though. 980 00:42:41,720 --> 00:42:44,080 This took international box to cover. 981 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:48,280 This was the second and last film under the Marvel Nights imprint 982 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,200 where they were trying to do slightly darker movies. 983 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,040 Punisher Warzone being the first, which was an R rated Punisher film 984 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,240 starring Ray Stevens, which I love. Same. 985 00:42:56,240 --> 00:42:59,360 And this, which was originally supposed to be R rated. 986 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,840 And then Sony got cold feet and made them make a PG-13. 987 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,200 That's sad. This would have been way cooler. 988 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:06,800 I was R rated. Yeah. 989 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:11,040 The coolest thing about this film is if you watch the making of this movie, 990 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:16,080 the directors are like both cameramen and the way they got 991 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:19,240 a lot of those motorcycle stunt scenes where like you see the wheel up close. 992 00:43:19,240 --> 00:43:22,280 The director's just sketching the blades on the back of the motorcycle 993 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,080 holding the camera. Yeah, it's wild. 994 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:28,240 So the scene where Idris Elba goes over the cliff director 995 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:32,000 holding on the motorcycle, riding behind it and just let's go 996 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,200 at the last second and just goes around that turn. 997 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,680 And the other director is in a harness over the cliff 998 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:41,400 that slingshots him back with a camera with the stunt man coming at him. 999 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,840 It's insane. Yeah, those guys are pretty crazy. 1000 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:48,680 I've got it written down and like that was the coolest shot. Yeah, for sure. 1001 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,120 That's so bad. 1002 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,440 And when they're when they're doing the stunts on the road, 1003 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,560 when like Johnny is trying to show off to Danny, same thing. 1004 00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:00,920 He's sketching like a get behind the motorcycle and just like letting go 1005 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,840 and the other motorcycle stunt man just right by him. 1006 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,560 Watching how they film this movie is insane. 1007 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,520 I just want to say I haven't heard the word sketching since the last time 1008 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,560 I played Tony Hawk's Pro Skater, I think. 1009 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:15,160 I've never even heard it until right now, and we heard it about 15 times. 1010 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:16,480 So there was also 1011 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,800 there was a sketching and stitches. 1012 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,480 There was a yes, they do. 1013 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,960 Probably. Yeah, there was a sketching video at one point. 1014 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,320 Oh, weird. Yeah, that is weird. 1015 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,320 All I know is rollerblades are dumb. 1016 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,920 You're more of a roller skate man. Whoa. 1017 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,760 Hot take hot takes. Tell us more. Hot takes. 1018 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,160 Oh, I hate those inline wheels. 1019 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,640 One time I was. OK, so here's a rollerblading start. 1020 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:44,200 I was rollerblading down this hill in the town I grew up in. 1021 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,240 I was maybe like 12. 1022 00:44:46,240 --> 00:44:48,320 So it was OK for me to be on rollerblades. 1023 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,840 I'm going around this corner, and I didn't want to be on the street 1024 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,120 because it was a pretty blind corner. 1025 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,400 It was a really steep hill and sharp corner. 1026 00:44:57,720 --> 00:45:01,520 So I'm going down the sidewalk because I knew nobody ever walks up that hill. 1027 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,000 And as I'm getting down, there's a funeral home at the end, 1028 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,760 and somebody was just pulling out of the funeral home. 1029 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:12,040 And they like I'm going maybe like 35 on my rollerblades. 1030 00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:15,360 And this car pulls out and it's like, fuck, 1031 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,920 I'm going to hit them in like 40 feet. 1032 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,720 And there was just a chain link fence next to me. 1033 00:45:20,720 --> 00:45:25,400 And without thinking, I just grabbed the fence and just clothesline myself. 1034 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:29,000 Like this hand got like kind of like caught in the chain links. 1035 00:45:29,240 --> 00:45:33,000 I just like go up and then hit myself like right down on the ground, 1036 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,920 like maybe seven, eight feet from the corner where this car is. 1037 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,760 And they just kind of looked and then pulled out and left. 1038 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,440 I'm like, are you fucking kidding me? 1039 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:43,760 12 year old, too. Yeah. 1040 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,800 I'm just dying on the side of the road. 1041 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,120 You gravel embedded into your arm. 1042 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,160 So you said something interesting there and that it was OK. 1043 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,640 You're on rollerblades because you were 12. 1044 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:56,080 So I'm curious, are you saying you were old enough or young enough 1045 00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,480 to be on rollerblades? What's the appropriate age to rollerblade? 1046 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:00,960 I think you can rollerblade up until. 1047 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:04,920 Twelve and a half. 1048 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,400 And then you have to go into classic roller skates. 1049 00:46:07,720 --> 00:46:12,400 No, then you should either be skateboarding or taking the bus. 1050 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,360 Like those are your options. 1051 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,720 I'm getting back to this because I do love this movie. 1052 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,240 Nicholas Cage is outstanding in this. 1053 00:46:20,240 --> 00:46:22,520 Like he's worked with this director again. 1054 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:26,600 This director just wants him to go fully cage when he's a ghostwriter. 1055 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,680 It's two speaking lines, but it doesn't really speak like the one. 1056 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:30,800 He's the ghostwriter. 1057 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:35,480 And it's cool that he was doing, you know, the motion stuff for the ghostwriter. 1058 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:37,480 Doesn't really play. 1059 00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,760 That's Nick Cage. It doesn't really need to be Nick Cage, 1060 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,040 especially because they do a lot of like speed up, slow down, 1061 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:47,760 because the spirit of vengeance is is an insane fallen angel. 1062 00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:52,320 So they really play up that spirit of the Vengeance, 1063 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,600 that the ghostwriter is just toying with people. 1064 00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,920 So there's just he's just standing there, just swinging his chain 1065 00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,000 and just like swaying back and forth while everyone's like, 1066 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:02,640 what the fuck is going on? 1067 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:06,440 Yeah, some of that was kind of weird, but I did love the physicality 1068 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:10,840 that he brought, especially with the head motions, because very jerky. 1069 00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,480 And doing a Stevie Wonder at one point. Yeah. Yeah. 1070 00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:18,560 But it looks good for, you know, something that doesn't have muscles like. 1071 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,040 Yeah, maybe it's doesn't do. 1072 00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:21,760 There's no weird pointing. 1073 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,120 He doesn't do that. Oh, I know. We're so sad about that. 1074 00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:25,920 I really miss his weird point from the first movie. 1075 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:27,800 That's the only thing I liked from the first movie. 1076 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,520 Peter and I were talking about how perfect it would have been at the end 1077 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:34,680 when he like goes to heal Danny and he's like, and then he like hands 1078 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,120 and it's like, oh, it should have been a pointing heel. 1079 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:43,000 This movie has also the it's the first time that they have an in universe 1080 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:48,720 reason for a Nick Cage performance because the demon is has gone insane. 1081 00:47:48,720 --> 00:47:52,400 So Nick Cage just goes full on crazy. 1082 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,240 He just gets to be an insane person. Yeah. 1083 00:47:54,240 --> 00:47:56,760 And thank goodness, because that's what we were all missing in life 1084 00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:00,000 was an actual justification for Nick Cage has. 1085 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:06,000 Have any of you seen the stills of him in the Ghost Rider scenes? 1086 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,400 No. So Nick Cage. 1087 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:10,800 I mean, I paused it a few times. 1088 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:15,480 No, not that the CG like him on set as the Ghost Rider. 1089 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,240 He showed up on set, not telling anyone 1090 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,680 with full Baron Smedy makeup from Live and Let Die. 1091 00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:26,440 So he had like witch doctor makeup, like white, white face 1092 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:30,200 with like blackout over his eyes and stuff to get more in character, 1093 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:32,960 which serves nothing to the movie. 1094 00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,320 He just did that. Yeah, it helps him. 1095 00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:36,400 Yeah, that's fine. 1096 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,880 It's just like fucking crazy person. And I love it. 1097 00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,000 Are you saying you've never done that? 1098 00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,280 Insane performance, insane action when the Ghost Rider gets blown up 1099 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:49,280 for the second time and he's just floating three feet above the ground 1100 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:50,720 and slowly spinning. 1101 00:48:50,720 --> 00:48:54,080 Yeah, I was wondering if that was something like I haven't read 1102 00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:55,960 a lot of Ghost Rider comics or anything. 1103 00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,440 So I don't know like where his weakness is or anything like Venom 1104 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,680 has his sonic kind of weakness. 1105 00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:07,720 Does the Ghost Rider have like a flash bang version? 1106 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:11,080 In the first one, it was daylight made him turn back into like 1107 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,520 regular Johnny Blaze, but they don't really fuck with that. 1108 00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,640 Well, they do in the very beginning. 1109 00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:16,840 They're like, that's right. 1110 00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:18,840 Yeah, the Ghost Rider doesn't like the light. 1111 00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:22,600 And it's when Danny gives him his powers back that he can go out in the day. 1112 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:27,560 Also, the fact that a movie of this era, a lot of CG heroes 1113 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,360 or a lot of CG action at the end of the film brought daylight. 1114 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:31,760 They're like, no, none of this darkness. 1115 00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:33,160 We're not going to show you what's happening. 1116 00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:34,920 Broad daylight Ghost Rider fight. 1117 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,040 Well, they had to save the darkness for all the. 1118 00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,000 What was that guy's name? The rotting guy. 1119 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:41,520 Blackout blackout. 1120 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,000 Well, it makes sense. 1121 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,240 Yeah, the blackout scenes for the blackout. 1122 00:49:45,240 --> 00:49:46,840 What was with those? I didn't. 1123 00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:48,320 I don't know. 1124 00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,960 The character in the comics power is he can just make anywhere he's at. 1125 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:53,880 Just pitch black so no one can say. 1126 00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,280 Cone of darkness. Yeah, kind of. 1127 00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,840 His power to just anything he touches just rots instantly. 1128 00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:02,160 Except the Twinkie, except the Twinkie used, which is hilarious. 1129 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:03,320 Just by the way, that was very. 1130 00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,840 Joke. But that led me to think who eats Twinkies like that? 1131 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,400 Because he just like puts it in his fucking mitt 1132 00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:13,440 and like pops the bag by squishing it and then go gurgling into his mouth. 1133 00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:15,880 He was driving it in once at the time he was busy. 1134 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:21,000 I can open a Twinkie and drive the fastest way to get a Twinkie in your mouth. 1135 00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,880 Yeah, we have to use the plastic to. Yeah, that's fair. 1136 00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:26,320 And I just swallowed the whole thing. 1137 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:31,320 Oh, I do love how deadly his chain was and how it was just splitting people 1138 00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:32,800 in half and burning them up. 1139 00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,800 But where was his penance there from the beginning? 1140 00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:39,160 He does it to one guy, but they don't really show an effect. 1141 00:50:39,240 --> 00:50:40,560 Yeah, there was no effect. 1142 00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:44,160 It just kind of looked like he was staring people down and like 1143 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,680 enjoying watching them be afraid. 1144 00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,480 Was that the guy who had like an illegal download or whatever? 1145 00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:54,360 And because of it, they show up and he's like spirit of vengeance 1146 00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:55,840 shows up while he's on Napster. 1147 00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:57,760 And he's like, did you pay for that? 1148 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,880 I do want to say 1149 00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:05,040 when the second fight with Kerrigan at the quarry, 1150 00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,200 Kerrigan sees the penance there, seeing he's like, don't look at him. 1151 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,480 So the next time they meet up and like Nick Cage is holding him by the face, 1152 00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:13,800 the actor plays Kerrigan is looking everywhere else, 1153 00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,160 like is directly trying not to look into Ghost Rider's eyes. 1154 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,320 I thought that was a nice little touch. Yeah. 1155 00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,600 I felt a little seen at the beginning, though, when it was like the 1156 00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,880 it was like the voiceover exposition thing. 1157 00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,840 And then the eyes like stare at you and break the fourth wall. 1158 00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,840 I was like, oh, what did I do? 1159 00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:31,000 The legal downloads, baby. 1160 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,800 Yeah. This isn't my quote, but I did write that down because I did like 1161 00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:35,440 I did like that. 1162 00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,200 Don't put this in, but I definitely was fired. 1163 00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,080 Yeah, he's going to come for you now. 1164 00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,280 And you don't want to be around when that happens. 1165 00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,280 You see, there's good and bad in all of us. 1166 00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,240 Maybe you're not a murderer. 1167 00:51:48,240 --> 00:51:49,160 We've all done something. 1168 00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:55,280 You don't want the writer to see a white lie and the legal download. What about you? 1169 00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,040 I bet Lars Ulrich got them to put that line in there. 1170 00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:01,600 Fucking Lars. Yeah, he's the worst. 1171 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:03,640 He's the worst Metallica. 1172 00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,720 It's like Metallica, like a Voltron. 1173 00:52:07,720 --> 00:52:11,480 Yeah, basically, I think I guess all bands are kind of like a Voltron. 1174 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,440 Variously important, important appendages. Yeah. 1175 00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:16,720 Like, what was it? Def Leppard? 1176 00:52:16,720 --> 00:52:18,480 They didn't need the one arm. 1177 00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:19,480 Oh, man. 1178 00:52:21,240 --> 00:52:23,360 First, a joke that a story joke. 1179 00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,400 I have a joke and a story, actually. 1180 00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,320 So when I was in Def Leppard. 1181 00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,320 So what I got to remember this right. 1182 00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,040 What has nine arms and sucks? 1183 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,400 Def Leppard, because he's missing. 1184 00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:43,080 So when I was living in Montana, I was I lived in Missoula 1185 00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:47,480 and I was going to Billings for a Def Leppard show and I got pulled over. 1186 00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:52,520 And because I was doing somewhere around like 95 or something on the freeway, 1187 00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:56,920 which you think is fine because the speed limits like 80 in Montana. 1188 00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,040 But I got pulled over for doing that. 1189 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:03,760 And it was just so weird to me because like towns and cities are so far apart 1190 00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,160 there that I didn't get a ticket. 1191 00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:09,560 He had a credit card reader and I paid $40. 1192 00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:10,800 That was my fine. 1193 00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,520 And then I left. No court appearances. 1194 00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,080 It's just $40 fine. Keep going. 1195 00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:17,080 Did you get a message? Mexico? 1196 00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:18,520 Yeah, I got a receipt. 1197 00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,120 That's pretty efficient, though. I kind of like that. 1198 00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,200 Yeah. So what if you contest it, though? 1199 00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:26,680 Then you would probably have to go in and pay the money. 1200 00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,120 Yeah, that would be like a couple hour drive. 1201 00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,360 Yeah. All right. Let's let's get our quotes in. 1202 00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:35,680 OK, I've got a couple, so I'll just put some in here and there. 1203 00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:37,960 We just do it off the dome. I'll sprinkle them in. 1204 00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:40,640 No, I've got my own here. 1205 00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:42,840 But we did this all off the dome, Peter. 1206 00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:44,640 You have everything. No notes. 1207 00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:49,160 No notes. One of my favorites is just at the end 1208 00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:53,760 when the ghost rider knocks Kerrigan off the car and then they run him over. 1209 00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,920 And then ghost rider just looks back and he's like, roadkill. 1210 00:53:57,240 --> 00:53:59,360 Oh, yeah, that was the second line. Yeah. 1211 00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:03,680 That was a good one. 1212 00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,640 Mine is let me get something straight. 1213 00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:10,600 The guy who kidnapped Danny and tried to kill you and blew me up 1214 00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,360 chugs a bunch of pills with grenades. 1215 00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,960 You two were like boyfriend and girlfriend. 1216 00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,680 The follow up line to that was a no, I get it. 1217 00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:23,680 You have the devil's baby mama. 1218 00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:25,280 I like that one. That was my. 1219 00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:33,360 So my my quote is when Johnny and what's the devil's baby mama's name? 1220 00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:37,880 Persephone. I also was looking at this and I was just thinking like this. 1221 00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,480 Nadia does not pass the Bechtel test. 1222 00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:44,320 Now, she's the only there's like one other woman in the entire thing. 1223 00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,120 And she's like a gas station attendant or something. 1224 00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:52,160 We know more about the fact that she's Romani than. 1225 00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:58,880 Well, OK, she plays up every poor stereotype of gypsies. 1226 00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:05,840 True. In the world, like, you know, she is going like she robs a guy. 1227 00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:10,640 Her and Danny like steal some guys wallet and like wedding ring 1228 00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:14,320 when he tries to hit on her and they're always she's the worst. 1229 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:16,000 I hate her. 1230 00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,320 But you never like her name's forgettable. 1231 00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,520 But she's a gypsy. 1232 00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,520 So which is not a good term to say. Correct. 1233 00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:26,440 Kerrigan is kidnapped, Danny. 1234 00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,880 This is after the first ghost writer scene, but before the quarry. 1235 00:55:29,240 --> 00:55:32,680 And they're questioning a thug who knows Kerrigan and they've seen that. 1236 00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:33,680 They've been texting. 1237 00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:37,600 So Nick Cage, like puts the phone in the guy's mouth and goes, 1238 00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:41,840 Kerrigan must have told you about that thing that killed the men last night. 1239 00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,800 Huh? Yeah. That thing is inside of me. 1240 00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,000 See, you're a bad man. 1241 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,960 And this thing, the writer, he feeds on bad men and he's hungry. 1242 00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:52,760 He's hungry than he's been in years. 1243 00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:53,920 That's why I'm shaking. 1244 00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:57,320 Because right now, the only thing that's standing between you and the writer is me. 1245 00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:01,520 And he's just he's scratching at the door, 1246 00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,040 scratching at the door. 1247 00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,760 And he'll tell me what I want to know. 1248 00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:09,120 I'm going to let him out. 1249 00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,480 And when he's done with you, there won't be anything left of you. 1250 00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,520 Understand? Yeah. 1251 00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,680 The scratching at the door line, that was the one time in this movie 1252 00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,320 that I was like, come on, I still like it. 1253 00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:21,800 I loved it. 1254 00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,160 So bad. Yeah. 1255 00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,200 So, yeah, I got a couple more that I'll just bang out real quick. 1256 00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:32,760 But seeing I can't remember what led up to it, but he's just writhing on the floor. 1257 00:56:33,240 --> 00:56:36,960 He just says, Merry Christmas, you assholes. 1258 00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,160 They end the movie with 1259 00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:43,440 a conversation like, is it over? 1260 00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:46,560 It's like, I'm going to say, yes, hell, yes. 1261 00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,680 Oh, fucking dumb. Come on. 1262 00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:51,040 I thought it was perfect. 1263 00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:52,240 Yeah, it is good. 1264 00:56:52,240 --> 00:56:56,920 But my favorite quote or my favorite line, probably 1265 00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,840 they're sitting like in a diner or something. 1266 00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:01,480 And it's Nick Cage and Danny. 1267 00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:05,680 And Nick goes to like brush the kids hair for some fucking reason. 1268 00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,520 I don't know why, but he like reaches out and the kid 1269 00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:11,480 like kind of pulls back and Cage is just like. 1270 00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:13,760 It was a bee. 1271 00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,520 I thought it was going to sting your face. 1272 00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:18,640 It's like you're inside. 1273 00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:21,240 There was no fucking bee. Why are you trying to touch children? 1274 00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:25,440 Come on. The spirit of Vengeance is going to have some words with you. 1275 00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:29,480 I just want to I do also just love the opening little thing. 1276 00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:31,200 My name is Johnny Blaze. 1277 00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,520 I used to ride a motorcycle for a living. 1278 00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:37,080 I did a bare ass 360 triple backspin in front of 22,000 people. 1279 00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:40,680 It's kind of funny. It's on YouTube. Check it out. 1280 00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:43,880 They should have made that for YouTube. 1281 00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,960 Everything about this film is amazing. 1282 00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:47,600 It's pretty. 1283 00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:49,520 I know, John, you don't like the like little 1284 00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:52,560 illustrated illustrated like things. 1285 00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:55,680 I mean, it's just again, I think that's a more of a budgetary thing 1286 00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:56,880 than anything else. 1287 00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:59,080 Everything about this movie, especially as a ghostwriter fan, 1288 00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:00,560 just fucking hit for me. 1289 00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:02,920 Well, and for me, so the big thing, like, again, as I mentioned, 1290 00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:04,920 I hated the first one in this one. 1291 00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:06,360 It felt like a comic book. 1292 00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:10,200 It was light on, you know, a lot of things, but it didn't matter. 1293 00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:14,080 Like I had enjoyment the entire time and that really made a difference for me. 1294 00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:17,400 It feels like the most comic book Marvel movie that I've ever seen. 1295 00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:21,640 I have one criticism, only one criticism of this movie. 1296 00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:22,960 Only 90 minutes. 1297 00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:24,240 Steve Buscemi was underused. 1298 00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,840 Why was Nadia an accomplished sniper at the end? 1299 00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,760 Why did she have a fucking sniper rifle? 1300 00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:36,360 And why was she just nonchalantly picking off motherfuckers? 1301 00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:38,360 The run of your people are very skilled. 1302 00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:40,600 Where did she get it? 1303 00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:42,160 Are you going to tell me she stole it? 1304 00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:43,760 That's racist. 1305 00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:45,160 Then she get it from Idris Elba. 1306 00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:46,440 Then you have the whole arsenal. 1307 00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:47,960 Yeah, probably in the basement. Yeah. 1308 00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:49,360 With the wine. Oh, yeah. 1309 00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:51,760 Oh, yeah. I'm usually like, I'm hating you less more. 1310 00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:53,240 Oh, she like 1311 00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:57,120 to good cage, good movie, bad kids, bad movie, good, bad, bad, good. 1312 00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:01,680 A bad cage. Good movie. 1313 00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,040 Interesting. Outstanding cage. 1314 00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:07,160 Good movie. I love what he's allowed to be wacky. 1315 00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,600 Yes, but are we? 1316 00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:14,600 OK, we've never talked about actually what these bubbles in the diagram are. 1317 00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:15,360 I don't think it matters. 1318 00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:17,400 Is it a good performance? 1319 00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:20,080 A good, good acting? Is it good? 1320 00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,440 This movie is actually like kind of a bad movie. 1321 00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,880 Yeah, it's a terrible movie, but it's a lot of fun. 1322 00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:26,080 That's terrible. 1323 00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,800 No, I mean, the acting is very over the top and wacky 1324 00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:32,000 and it's not like a deep performance, but it's exactly what it's supposed to be. 1325 00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:36,360 I feel and it was better than the Ghost Rider take from the first. 1326 00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:38,080 Yes. And it's very entertaining. 1327 00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:41,840 So, yeah, he's this is like probably the cagiest we've ever seen him 1328 00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:46,920 where he's just allowed to go full on just himself in a Ghost Rider movie. 1329 00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:49,400 Yeah, definitely that. 1330 00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:53,280 I enjoyed him thoroughly. 1331 00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:55,840 So in terms of just pure enjoyment, I'm going to say great cage. 1332 00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:59,560 And what for the movie? Great movie. Great. Great. 1333 00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:01,160 John, what do you think? 1334 01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:04,000 Uh, I'm pretty close to Sean. 1335 01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,800 I'd say, you know, great cage bad movie like this. 1336 01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:12,160 His acting in this was simultaneously bonkers and also amazing. 1337 01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:14,680 Yeah, it was exactly what I wanted out of Nick Cage. 1338 01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:17,520 If this isn't like this is the best version of everything 1339 01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:19,600 people make fun of Nick Cage for in terms of acting. 1340 01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,920 Yes. And I mean, I agree. 1341 01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:24,520 It's what I wanted from the movie. 1342 01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:26,520 It's not a good performance. 1343 01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:28,040 OK, no, you're right. 1344 01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:29,800 It's not, but it's still fun. 1345 01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:30,840 Yeah. And that's fine. 1346 01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:35,160 I'm totally in on that bad performance, bad performance. 1347 01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:37,960 Good result. Good result. OK, I like that. 1348 01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:43,680 Yeah, bad performance, but in the Venn diagram, a bad movie or bad cage, 1349 01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:48,560 good movie, you have Ghost Rider Spirit of Vengeance in the butthole. Yeah. 1350 01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:50,680 You heard it here first. Right in the pocket. 1351 01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:53,480 This is the butthole of Nick Cage movies and you're going to love it. 1352 01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:55,600 You're going to eat it up. You millennials. 1353 01:00:56,320 --> 01:01:00,560 So without John, what do you where would of these two? 1354 01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:01,960 What would you again? 1355 01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:03,920 Your opinion does not matter, but what would you put forward? 1356 01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:06,440 This is actually really hard because like we were saying, Gone 1357 01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:09,520 in 60 Seconds is actually like a pretty decent movie. 1358 01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:14,360 It's just totally unremarkable, whereas Spirit of Vengeance is 1359 01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,240 a bad movie that's inexplicably good. 1360 01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:20,280 Like if it was a minute longer, it wouldn't be good anymore. 1361 01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:23,560 It does. It does know when to stop. Yeah. 1362 01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:28,520 I think you should send 1363 01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:31,200 Spirit of Vengeance on the jobs. 1364 01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:32,840 I'm inclined to agree. 1365 01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:36,360 It's the more they're entertaining for different reasons. 1366 01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:39,080 But this is like I love the spectacle of it so much more. 1367 01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:42,040 And it's I had so much more fun watching it and rewatching it. 1368 01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:46,800 It was simultaneously not as great as I built it up to be. 1369 01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:48,680 Having only seen it in theaters. 1370 01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:50,760 Oh, we didn't even talk about the flame thrower. 1371 01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:51,760 He's done. Yeah. 1372 01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:54,160 Like your favorite part of the movie is the flamethrower. 1373 01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:56,840 P and you didn't even talk about it because there's so much other stuff 1374 01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:58,000 to talk about in the cell. 1375 01:01:58,000 --> 01:01:59,840 I mean, they show it twice. Yeah. 1376 01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:02,200 They did get a lot of screen time. 1377 01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:03,920 But I like I remember seeing this. 1378 01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:07,240 I saw this movie in theaters when it came out and I loved it then. 1379 01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,280 You went on it. Was this a date? 1380 01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:12,960 No, I went to too fast, too furious on a date. 1381 01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:18,240 I know we've been dating for a while, but I still walked out of the movie. 1382 01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,600 This was before my love for the fast franchise. 1383 01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,000 I mean, too fast, too furious was a tricky one. 1384 01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:25,560 Yeah, that was a big, big shift. 1385 01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:28,280 Yeah, I I hadn't seen the first one. 1386 01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:29,880 I didn't even think about that. 1387 01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:33,760 I saw this movie in like South San Francisco. 1388 01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:37,360 I got out of the theater at like 11 o'clock to have a bunch of texts 1389 01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:40,400 from Meredith who had locked themselves out of their house in Oakland, 1390 01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:43,440 like lost their keys, was locked out of their house, locked out of their car. 1391 01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:46,000 So I had to drive like 40 minutes to Oakland 1392 01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:49,120 to help them break into their house. 1393 01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:51,680 Good thing you had your hell car and my crime jacket. 1394 01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:55,040 Speaking of the crime jacket and the ghostwriter crime jacket, 1395 01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:58,920 one thing I picked up is when his head is on fire, the jacket boils. 1396 01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:00,400 Yeah, the shoulders boil. 1397 01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:01,600 I was like, that was cool. 1398 01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:04,720 Yeah, the finish on that leather jacket is pretty fucked up. 1399 01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:05,920 Yeah, because of all the other times. 1400 01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:08,440 Anytime he's not ghostwritered out, it's just fine. 1401 01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:11,640 I mean, the the leather is kind of peeling. 1402 01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:15,240 Yeah, I want to say, you know, spirit of vengeance. 1403 01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:19,680 I mean, in terms of a cage performance, it's the cagiest of performances. 1404 01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:22,040 Well, it looks like we got 12 minutes to argue. 1405 01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:23,360 So no, I'm kidding. 1406 01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:25,560 I'm perfectly fine with spirit of vengeance. 1407 01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:30,880 That I think that'll be a fine movie, a little misrepresented in the bracket. 1408 01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:33,720 But it is still works. 1409 01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:35,840 Yeah, it's just a weird action movie. 1410 01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:37,480 So it works in both. 1411 01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:41,400 But yeah, it's much weirder than I remembered it being. 1412 01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:43,200 I just remember the straight action parts of it. 1413 01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:44,200 Oh, yeah. Yeah. 1414 01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:47,480 So spirit of vengeance may move forward. 1415 01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:49,720 Sweet. I feel good about that. Nice. 1416 01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:53,760 I don't know if there's any real this week in cage, but I know spirit 1417 01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:55,840 or sympathy for the devil comes down. 1418 01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:56,960 You guys are going to go. 1419 01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:58,360 It came out yesterday. Yeah. 1420 01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:02,400 So well, yesterday being the day before we recorded. 1421 01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:04,520 So came out on the 28th of July. 1422 01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:06,440 There you go. That's the time that came out. 1423 01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:09,280 So Nick and I are going to watch this at some point and record a little. 1424 01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:12,520 Our thoughts on this week, we're going to do a Peterless record. 1425 01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:14,560 Yeah. Yeah. Godspeed. 1426 01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:15,960 He to me. Yeah. 1427 01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:19,720 Drop a couple sound bites down for us and we'll just insert you somewhere. 1428 01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:20,760 Oh, good. Yeah. 1429 01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:25,000 I've been waiting to say, we'll just insert you somewhere for most of my life. 1430 01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:29,040 Guys, focus. Yeah. 1431 01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:32,000 So we'll just record you doing one of these. 1432 01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:35,120 Perfect. Yeah, that's the best jerk off motion recorded ever. 1433 01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:37,040 Just send us the raw audio of that time. 1434 01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:39,160 You yelled at us when you're going to go straight. 1435 01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,280 Oh, man. Yeah. We'll insert that in there. 1436 01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:44,400 God, that was a bad episode. 1437 01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:45,840 Yes. So we've got a. 1438 01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:47,520 Sare for the devil is out now. 1439 01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:50,480 Yep. We're starring Nicholas Cage and Joel Kinnaman. 1440 01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:52,920 We will record something on that. 1441 01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:55,640 Nick is dead by daylight. The LC, I think, finally came out. 1442 01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:58,560 Yes, I've been seeing photos of that people playing online. 1443 01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:02,360 So if you play dead by daylight, go play as Nicholas Cage 1444 01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:04,520 and listen to all those weird Nicholas Cage lines. 1445 01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:05,680 I listen to a bunch of them. 1446 01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:10,640 Yeah. You sent us a clip from YouTube that was like 20 minutes of just the audio. 1447 01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:11,880 Just his audio files. 1448 01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:14,000 Being like, come on. 1449 01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:16,200 Yeah. Are you kidding me? 1450 01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:21,320 Which is probably good fodder for like clipping into other things. 1451 01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:22,600 We should use that. Yeah. 1452 01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:24,960 Well, take that Nicholas Cage. 1453 01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:27,640 You're going to be on our podcast whether you like it or not. 1454 01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:30,520 Oh, come on. 1455 01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:35,280 And I don't know what else is going on in Nick's world. 1456 01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:37,200 You're talking about you. 1457 01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:38,360 Oh, maybe. 1458 01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:42,080 That's the sequel to Bobby's World. 1459 01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:44,280 Bobby's World. Bobby's World. 1460 01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:46,440 God, I haven't thought about Bobby's World forever. 1461 01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:48,520 That's the only time I ever think about Howie Mandel. 1462 01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:50,440 Do you remember the Louie Anderson cartoon? 1463 01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:51,640 Oh, yeah, that was great. 1464 01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:52,680 That was pretty good. I love that. 1465 01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:56,680 Yeah, I remember the episode where he went to camp, which is kind of like camp. 1466 01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:58,960 Yeah, yeah. It's just all ages camp. 1467 01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:01,960 The line from that show that always that's where you get diddled. 1468 01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:02,920 This is like. 1469 01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:06,840 Little brother just saying, told you I could eat a whole stick of butter. 1470 01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:09,960 Oh, fun story. Well, not really a story, but fun fact. 1471 01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:12,280 I used to eat butter straight as a little kid. 1472 01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:14,880 My parents had to keep the butter off the counter. 1473 01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:16,600 Oh, you went for soft butter. 1474 01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:18,440 Yeah, it is like counter butter. 1475 01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:20,120 You didn't have counter butter. 1476 01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:23,920 Oh, no, I still counter butter. But if I was just eating a stick of butter, 1477 01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:26,200 I think I might want like a refrigerated stick. 1478 01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:31,880 I feel like it would grease my mouth too much if I went softened butter. 1479 01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:33,640 Yeah, but I don't know. I'll have to try it. 1480 01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:34,920 Salted or unsalted. 1481 01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:36,000 I don't remember. I was like four. 1482 01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:38,720 Mm hmm. I'm an unsalted butter guy. Me too. 1483 01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:41,440 John, do you have anything you want to plug unsalted butter? 1484 01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:44,600 Yeah, John Brand's unsalted butter. 1485 01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:47,400 Good. Get it wherever you podcasts are sold. 1486 01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:49,720 Perfect. Excellent. 1487 01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:51,440 Thank you for being here. 1488 01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:52,720 Thanks, John. This is a lot of fun. 1489 01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:57,280 Yeah, so yeah, next up, we've got matchstick men and guarding tests. 1490 01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:00,040 Yeah, so anyway, thank you for listening. 1491 01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:02,120 Please rate, review, subscribe. 1492 01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:05,040 If you'd like to throw any money at us, we are on Patreon at CageMatch. 1493 01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:06,720 Or you can find us on the street. 1494 01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:08,560 You could do that, too. Yeah. 1495 01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:11,640 But ask first, because I don't want you giving money to some rando. 1496 01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:12,640 Yeah, that's true. 1497 01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:15,200 There's a lot of people that look like Nick. Yeah. 1498 01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:18,080 But yeah, thank you to our Sparkle buddies, Josh, Sean, Josie, Rico, 1499 01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:21,440 Matt and Adam and to our cage dancers, Ira, John and Freeman. 1500 01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:23,760 Hey, that's nice, John. Yeah. 1501 01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:25,320 I paid my way on here. 1502 01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:27,960 That's the only way you get on this show. 1503 01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:30,320 Do you want to talk about flaming piss again? Always. 1504 01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:33,280 With my doctor, though. 1505 01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:35,720 Bye bye. 1506 01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:43,720 Bye bye. 1507 01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:50,640 What was that? Was that a butt? 1508 01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:54,320 That was my toe, my sweaty toe squeaking against the wood chair. 1509 01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:55,880 Yeah, nice. 1510 01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:57,120 See if I can do it again. 1511 01:07:57,600 --> 01:07:59,400 No, no, it's a. 1512 01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:02,480 Fortunately, we caught the audio, so I'll isolate that. 1513 01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:06,040 The most entertaining strip clubs I've ever been to are the ones 1514 01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:09,080 with the acrobatic strippers. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Fantastic. 1515 01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:11,400 They start clicking their heels. That's obnoxious. 1516 01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:13,560 Yeah. Roller skating strippers are pretty good. 1517 01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:14,560 Oh, that's a new one. 1518 01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:17,080 I would like to see some tap dancing strippers. 1519 01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:18,760 OK, so what you're talking about is burlesque. 1520 01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:20,360 Really? You would definitely see a tap dancing. 1521 01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:24,760 Oh, yeah. I should go to Dante sometime down in Portland. 1522 01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:28,000 They do. Well, I don't know if they're still doing it, but they used to have a thing 1523 01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:30,200 on Sundays called Sinferno. 1524 01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:34,640 And it was like a huge burlesque show had like go go dancers. 1525 01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:38,360 There was a guy that would just show up with a snake like he'd have his boa constrictor 1526 01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:40,000 and he just walked the audience. 1527 01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:44,560 There was like close up magicians in the audience and burlesque dancing. 1528 01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:46,480 It was fucking sick. That sounds awesome. 1529 01:08:46,480 --> 01:08:48,400 There's like indoor fire pits. 1530 01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:51,200 OK, I'm in. Yeah. Dante's was rad. 1531 01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:55,760 What I want. But what I want is like the level of like a high school talent show, 1532 01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:57,760 like people with bad talents. 1533 01:08:57,760 --> 01:09:02,120 Just doing them topless. Oh, so you just want me to do the podcast topless? 1534 01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:08,520 Yes. OK. So have you ever seen somebody like on their first nights or weeks? 1535 01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:14,520 No. OK, so let me just start this off with culturally in Portland, 1536 01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:21,160 strip clubs are not as weird for people to just go to as in some other cities. 1537 01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:24,560 I remember being in Portland once and going into a restaurant, getting a burrito. 1538 01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:26,080 And then I was like, I got to eat a burger. 1539 01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:28,320 I'm getting a burrito. And then I was like, I got to use the bathroom. 1540 01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:29,360 They're like, just go through there. 1541 01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:31,640 And it was you walked through the strip club. Yeah. 1542 01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:33,440 It was like, oh, OK. 1543 01:09:33,440 --> 01:09:37,720 There's owned as strippers, erotic or exotic dancing. 1544 01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:40,440 So it's not like a sex industry thing. 1545 01:09:40,440 --> 01:09:42,440 It's a dance industry thing. 1546 01:09:42,440 --> 01:09:45,560 I've been to some where, you know, they would have somebody out 1547 01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:48,160 for their first week or whatever. 1548 01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:49,680 And there was this one girl. 1549 01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:51,400 This is the most memorable one. 1550 01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:56,880 She comes out and like very uneasy on her, like eight inch heels 1551 01:09:57,280 --> 01:09:59,520 and kind of like gets up there. 1552 01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:05,240 She does her piece, which is mostly just holding on to the bar for support 1553 01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:09,480 while she kind of like wiggles and rides in a circle around it. 1554 01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:11,680 Never like did any pole work. 1555 01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:12,440 Never did any. 1556 01:10:12,440 --> 01:10:15,560 Like she did a little bit of ground stuff, but she wasn't real good at that either. 1557 01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:18,000 People had left some money up there, 1558 01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:22,240 but she couldn't like bend over to pick it up in her heels. 1559 01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:22,920 She wasn't good enough. 1560 01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:28,440 So she had to like kind of tiptoe off the stage and get out like holding her clothes. 1561 01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:32,840 And another stripper came up and picked up all the money for her and brought it back. 1562 01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:35,400 And it was just the saddest thing I've ever seen. 1563 01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:41,720 And I'll never forget or ever stop talking about the time I saw a lady's first strip. 1564 01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:45,400 How do you know it was her first, though? 1565 01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:47,040 Yeah, maybe she did. They say that. 1566 01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:50,200 Yeah, they did not say it, but I'm going to hope that it was her first 1567 01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:53,400 because if it was like second or third and she couldn't even figure out 1568 01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:56,520 how to lay on the ground and shake her butt. 1569 01:10:56,760 --> 01:11:00,720 You need a clip, shake her butt and just drop that in occasionally. 1570 01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:03,920 Shake her butt, shake her butt, shake her butt. 1571 01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:05,200 You guys don't have a soundboard. 1572 01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:07,040 We should. Yeah. 1573 01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:09,200 No, no, I mean, not that kind of soundboard. 1574 01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:11,000 Yeah. Yeah. 1575 01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:15,760 Well, well, well, well, well, only when we're on Discord. 1576 01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:16,960 Yeah, then we can bust them out.