1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,000 Previously on Cage Match. 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,000 Hold on, I want to back one thing up. 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:12,000 So when I mildly touched on Pat Morita's accent, I was racist? 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,000 Italians aren't people. 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:18,000 Okay. As long as we've got that out in front. 6 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,000 Oh god. Oh my god. 7 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:32,000 Make sure everything is recording properly. 8 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,000 Bottom bosoms, bottom bosoms, bottom bosoms. 9 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:39,000 Butt boobs? Nice. It's two things I enjoy. 10 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,000 Together at last. 11 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:48,000 One of my buddies used to always talk at work about front butts and back tits. 12 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,000 Welcome back to Cage Match, calling around about meeting Nicolas Cage. 13 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,000 I'm Sean with my co-host Nick. I'm Nick. 14 00:00:54,000 --> 00:01:02,000 And this is a bracket-style podcast where we take 64 Nicolas Cage's best movies. 15 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:08,000 And we're going to figure out what the all-time most cagey Nick Cage film is, as decided by us. 16 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,000 Yeah, some real professionals. 17 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:11,000 Yeah. 18 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:16,000 I like that we decide best by just saying his best movies are, I don't know, 19 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:20,000 just not the one third of the movies that aren't included. 20 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:25,000 Which also include a lot of new things, because we're not updating our list. 21 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,000 Yeah, I mean we did start this a year ago now. 22 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,000 Oh, happy anniversary, guys. 23 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,000 Happy anniversary, guys. We're still amazingly doing this. 24 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,000 And you guys are still weirdly my friends. 25 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:34,000 Yeah. 26 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:39,000 And we're right back to sweaty man episodes, as it's really humid in your apartment. 27 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,000 Oh yeah. Now we're back to the summer. 28 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,000 Yeah, summertime in Sean's apartment. 29 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,000 It's where you take your top off. 30 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,000 Yeah, we might lose some clothing this episode. 31 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,000 I'm wearing very loose pants, but I'm not opposed. 32 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:52,000 Let them breathe. 33 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:59,000 Well, speaking of war crimes, Lord of War and Captain Corelli's Mandolin are the movies we're talking about today. 34 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,000 What seat is this, Peter? 35 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:07,000 So it's a four and a 13, I believe, and we are in the serious bracket. 36 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:12,000 Well, they are serious movies, and they do seriously act. 37 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:17,000 Yes, there's a lot of acting that happens in one of these films. 38 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,000 But we're going to talk about Lord of War first. 39 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,000 I don't know what that means in context of where people act. 40 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,000 No, that is exactly what I was getting at. 41 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:30,000 Oh, OK. So Lord of War, you want to give us the short on that? 42 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:35,000 Nicholas Cage plays Yuri Orlov. 43 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:43,000 Nicholas Cage plays Yuri Orlov, a Ukrainian immigrant who in his early 20s, 44 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:54,000 starts selling guns to mob and that quickly grows in him selling guns to war criminals and governments 45 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:59,000 and just becoming, you know, all around kind of likeable sleazebag. 46 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,000 Yeah, he's an arms trafficker. 47 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:10,000 Arms trafficker, which takes him on a wild ride from the fallen Soviet Union to Africa and back again. 48 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:14,000 All the while, things with his wife are not great. 49 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,000 Yeah, that's a pretty mild way of putting it. 50 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:27,000 Yeah. Also starring Ethan Hawke as DEA agent Jack Valentine and Jared Leto as Vitaly Orlov, Yuri's coke addict brother. 51 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:28,000 And who plays the wife? 52 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:35,000 Bridget Monahan, Monahan, Monahan, kind of like Bobby Monahan, but they don't look alike. 53 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,000 And I don't think they're the same person. 54 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:39,000 Plays Eva Fontaine. 55 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,000 I've never seen them in the same same room at the same time, though. 56 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:43,000 True. 57 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:47,000 OK, well, it took me a second to figure out who Bobby Monahan was. 58 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:50,000 That would be a better movie. 59 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:54,000 I don't know if it would be better, but it would actually be more interesting. 60 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,000 Yes. Nicholas Cage, Yuri. 61 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,000 Yeah, so he's he's not like a good guy, right? 62 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,000 I mean, he's a arms dealer. 63 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:12,000 Yeah. This character, Yuri, he's a he and his actions are based off of a lot of like real world arms traffickers. 64 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:19,000 And most famously, the arm track figure we traded for a Britney Grindr. 65 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:20,000 Grindr. 66 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:21,000 Grindr. 67 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,000 Britney Grindr is a different thing. 68 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,000 I was watching an adult documentary before he came over. 69 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,000 All right. So this movie opens up. 70 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:37,000 It's just all voiceover pretty much with Nicholas Cage talking about his family fleeing from Ukraine. 71 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:42,000 They pretended to be Jewish so that they could get out and away from the USSR. 72 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,000 They established themselves in New York. 73 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:49,000 The family owns a restaurant, their little Crimean restaurant. 74 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,000 Brother works in the kitchen. 75 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:59,000 He is apparently a terrible cook because Nicholas Cage says that he eats there for free and even he doesn't eat there. 76 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,000 Good, good review. 77 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:06,000 Yeah. This is where we start to see Nicholas Cage get his first like gun deal. 78 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:15,000 Like he uses a connection from his father's like Jewish temple to get his hands on his first Israeli Uzi. 79 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:20,000 And that gets him his first sale where he kind of kind of blunders it, 80 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:29,000 but makes it out in the end with a couple of bucks realizes there's too many middlemen and he's not making enough money selling single guns. 81 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:34,000 So he gets his brother involved and they start going big time. 82 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:38,000 They go to like the Berlin Arms Expo. 83 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,000 They see a lot of cool guns. 84 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:46,000 I do want to say, though, like this isn't a kind of rags to riches. 85 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,000 Like he had to make this choice. 86 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:52,000 We're seven minutes into the movie and he's already like we can sell guns bigger. 87 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:57,000 Like he is not really relatable at this point yet. 88 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:01,000 I don't think he ever makes himself a relatable character. 89 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:09,000 But yeah, they they go to this arms dealing expo and conference and they try to make contacts. 90 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:10,000 It doesn't work. 91 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:16,000 They basically get shot down pretty hard by this guy, Simeon, who played by Ian Holm. 92 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:23,000 I like him. Yeah, he is like the big time arms dealer in the in the game. 93 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:31,000 I just want to point out the name of the arms fair salesman, the one that tries to sell them an old rocket launcher that well can't take down a fighter jet. 94 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,000 Definitely take down a commercial airliner. 95 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,000 Oh, yeah. It's played by Jeremy Crutchley. 96 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,000 Who's that? I don't know, but I like the last name Crutchley. 97 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,000 I thought for sure this was going to be a burn notice drop. 98 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:51,000 I thought for sure it was going to be something that pertained to the podcast is not my job here. 99 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:57,000 So they meet with him, but he blows them off our necklace cage decides, fuck it. 100 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:01,000 We're going to do things differently. We're just going to sell to everyone. 101 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:05,000 Well, in Holmes's whole argument is you pick a side in a war. Yeah. 102 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:09,000 And the cage is like, you know, we're just going to everyone gets guns. 103 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:20,000 Yeah. So from there, you know, you kind of get just the flash forward of, you know, business going down and it's, you know, shots of him selling guns in the Middle East. 104 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:32,000 But he talks mostly about in the movie, mostly surrounds activity in Africa, specifically Libya and eventually some Sierra Leone and things like that. 105 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:46,000 This movie mostly takes place in the mid 90s. It jumps a few years early on. Yeah. But he does talk about how it's like, you know, I sold guns to Al Qaeda, but I never did business with the song bin Laden. 106 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:50,000 Not for moral reasons. He was just bouncing a lot of checks in those days. Yeah. 107 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:56,000 I don't know if there's really much that needs to be talked about in any specific scenes. 108 00:07:56,000 --> 00:08:10,000 No, as far as him like selling guns like he's a con man. Yeah. He you get a lot of scenes of him like basically just trafficking the weapons, like how he gets them places like they're on a boat. 109 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:14,000 And he's always being hounded by Interpol agent Jack Valentine. 110 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:25,000 And they get a tip that Valentine's coming for him. So quickly they changed the name of the boat and have to scramble to fly a French flag sideways to make it look like a Dutch flag. 111 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:35,000 You know, they get off because the containers are filled with rotten potatoes, which throw off the agents and wackiness. 112 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:43,000 And then, you know, later he's flying airplanes. And for the most part, it's not it's not terribly interesting. 113 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:50,000 Like it's I found it fine the first time. It was fun the first time. It was fun the second time. But it I don't know. 114 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:56,000 You seen it and it doesn't amaze you. So it's interesting that it's a four seed because I kind of had higher expectations of it. 115 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:02,000 I'm not that the four seeds are like all bangers, but I sort of thought that it was going to be better. It's well acted. 116 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:10,000 That's the thing. Like I thought it was well acted. It's well written. It is well written. 117 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:14,000 So this is 2005 film and it has good flow. It's got really good. 118 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:20,000 It's hard to describe just because it is such a series of like it's just a little bit. 119 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:27,000 I mean, we do get some looks into his personal lives. You know, he's really close with his brother played by Jared Leto. 120 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:36,000 From the outset, he talks about how he's been obsessed with Ava since he was 10 and uses at the start of his career, 121 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:47,000 uses what resources he has to rent out an entire hotel, spends twenty five thousand dollars because she's a model to book her for a modeling gig at this hotel 122 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:53,000 and then pretends that the photographer got caught up in Miami. 123 00:09:53,000 --> 00:10:00,000 There's no flights home till Saturday, so he offers to give her a flight home on his private jet, which the people working at the airport, 124 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:06,000 he paid them off just to like spray his name on the back of the jet. So as they take off, it starts to like smear. 125 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,000 Yeah. Paint wasn't even dry yet when they take off. 126 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:14,000 But it didn't matter because by the time they landed, she was his. She was just looking at my eyes. 127 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:21,000 Nice. You know, there's a lot put on. He has his family, has his wife. He looks he has a son he clearly cares about, 128 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:32,000 which is kind of tries to get to the heart of the matter once he starts seeing boy children soldiers and watching kids get murdered in Africa. 129 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:38,000 There are a few moments where he looks at his son and kind of thinks maybe twice. 130 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,000 He goes into a sunroom one night to kiss his son good night after his son's going to bed. 131 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:48,000 His son has a little cowboy repeater toy and he throws it out because that's not appropriate. 132 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:55,000 I don't know if they're trying to like put a little moral like give him a little bit of morality, but he doesn't have it. 133 00:10:55,000 --> 00:11:01,000 I mean, it ultimately leads to the death of his brother and his wife turning him into the feds. 134 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:08,000 Yeah. And it's kind of interesting now, like with all of this, what like it's it's well written, it's well acted. 135 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:15,000 But I think the thing that I don't get out of this is any kind of like emotion. 136 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:23,000 Like he never like to the end really ever seems to regret now being an arms dealer. 137 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:32,000 I mean, even after even after his wife leaves and he's like taking that other job or like getting out of jail. 138 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,000 It's like he doesn't seem to care. 139 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:38,000 Like he calls and what not, but leaves a message on the voicemail. 140 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:52,000 But no, there's definitely he's definitely has some disconnect from all of that. And I mean, it's just hard to be sympathetic with a character who doesn't operate in a human way. 141 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:59,000 So this is 2005. This is kind of Nick Cage is still writing that he's mostly he's been in a lot of good stuff. 142 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:08,000 I don't feel like we're at the point yet where his name is just associated with subpar turned out. He's in everything. 143 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:16,000 Like this definitely has a feeling of it trying to be a I mean, it's clearly not going for an Oscar, but it's it's trying to be a prestige movie of some sort. 144 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:22,000 Oh, yeah. Interesting. Due to the subject matter could not get any funding from American producers. 145 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:36,000 So it's all funded from like outside of America. Interesting. They worked with actual the director says they worked with actual arms dealers, including the tanks from the Soviet base. 146 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:48,000 They're not Soviet base, but when they go to the arms conference, like those were actual like they got those on loan from actual arms dealers that had to be returned by Monday so they could be sold to they were told to. 147 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:54,000 Yeah, they had to contact NATO at one point for the scene where they're like lining up all the tanks. 148 00:12:54,000 --> 00:13:07,000 They needed to contact NATO like we are filming a movie. We are doing this. You can send someone out to check just in case a satellite picked up all these tanks like amassing that they weren't like bombed. 149 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:14,000 Sure. There's a lot of interesting stuff that went into the making of this film. But you're right. There isn't much of an emotional core of the film. 150 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:25,000 The form is the film is mostly about arms dealing is bad and it's mostly done by governments like the US and US and Russia and China sell the most guns and that's bad. 151 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:43,000 Yeah, that is how the movie ends to with that little written like, oh, yeah, they do a title card at the end that tells you about, you know, the major like the entities that sell the most weapons are actually the, you know, top where the five permanent members of. 152 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:57,000 The UN Security Council and I will say in terms of pacing, like you said, it is a lot of vignettes. There are there is a lot of good setup and payoff in this film early on. He's selling to Colombian drug lord who like shoots him in the stomach. 153 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:11,000 Yeah, and he said, like, you know, the first rule of arms dealing is never get shot with your own product. And then what wines getting him caught in the end is his brother has a totally has a change of heart. 154 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:24,000 When he finds out that guns are going to be used to kill a bunch of innocent kids and stuff. Yeah, kids in Africa. To be fair, he did also just watch some kid and some girl get hacked up with machetes by a small mob. 155 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:39,000 And yeah, no, that's enough to like start making you think otherwise. Rightfully so. Yuri or not Yuri. Vitali is actually the most like relatable character. Does he actually have a moral compass? Yeah, I mean, kind of. 156 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:54,000 It's hard to tell because it's like his character is being told from his brother's eyes. So there's a lot of like he doesn't know what his brother's motivations are, things like that. And he makes those statements to in narration. 157 00:14:54,000 --> 00:15:09,000 Yeah, he is kind of he is kind of the moral center of this film, and he's one of the biggest problems even from their first sale. When they're lining up a bunch of kids at a at a firing range, he wants to get involved and he tells me you can't. There's nothing you can do. 158 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:29,000 So when Vitali sees the kid get hacked up, he like tries to talk his brother out of the deal. Yuri's like, hey, man, there's nothing we can do about this now. Like those people are either going to get slaughtered with these weapons, slaughtered with other weapons, or if we back out, we'll get killed. 159 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:47,000 So it's like the only way for us out is to sell the guns and leave. So Vitali kind of gets in line and he's like, oh, OK, fine. Oh, I'm in. I just misunderstood the deal talking to the guys from Sierra Leone. 160 00:15:47,000 --> 00:16:04,000 And then he goes back to the truck under the auspice of like checking on something for Yuri, opens up a box with a couple of grenades, tosses one grenade into one truck full of arms. And as he's running to blow up the other truck, you know, you know, truck one explodes. 161 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:21,000 Vitali is running across. He just gets shot down by the guys from Sierra Leone. And then Nick Cage has to finish the deal for half of the blood diamonds that he was going to get paid because he pretty much gets paid in blood diamonds for African work. 162 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:27,000 This movie is about pointing out like the weird fucked up world of guns. 163 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:45,000 Unregistered, untraced guns, and they take advantage of that to make this film. Yeah, it's it actually like comes really close to talking about something that would have been talked about during that time, but like would get more. 164 00:16:45,000 --> 00:17:07,000 Attention like in the last like five years, and that's like what happens when a government leaves a war zone and all the stuff that they just leave behind. And that gets into the subject of burn pits, which is something that John Stewart's incredibly passionate about. 165 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:22,000 And for good cause, it's fucking people up. But like all these like military guns, like they just leave cars like it's cheaper to just leave it. Yeah. Well, they're not going to bring it. That was their first big haul is the it was cheaper to leave the gun center, fly them back out. 166 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:38,000 So after the desert storm or something, Yuri and Vitaly are selling guns by the kilo. Ultimately, Ian Holmes character shows back up because now the cage is running the show. It's like we should team up. He's like, no, you were right. The first time. I'm not good enough for you. 167 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:58,000 So Ian Holmes tries to have Yuri killed, but inadvertently blows up Yuri's uncle. So Yuri is responsible for the entire implosion of his family. Like his mother says, both my children are dead after Yuri gets caught bringing his brother back in the country. 168 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:15,000 So he paid off a doctor to give him a fake. Yeah. Pull all the lead out and give him a fake death certificate. But he missed one bullet under the rib cage, which got caught in an X-ray when they were bringing the coffin back in. So, you know, I checked it out. 169 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:31,000 I did have another quote picked out, but rewatching that scene last night when he gets brought in, probably the better quote is at the airport. It's like, Mr. Orlov, I'm from what is it? Alcohol. They have alcohol, tobacco and firearms. And Nick K. just goes. 170 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,000 I'm assuming you're not here to talk about the alcohol and tobacco. 171 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:46,000 This doesn't seem like a movie filled with a laugh out loud quotes or just like really poignant shit or anything. I mean, if you're dark enough, he says some things that I'm well. 172 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:59,000 He says a lot of things that would fit really well in those like subreddits of like I'm 14 and this is deep. So this is something I actually do want to talk about. You say this is well acted. I don't think it's poorly acted, but I don't think it's. 173 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:07,000 There's no depth to anyone's performance and Nick K. just monotone the entire time. And maybe that goes to the character sociopathic nature. 174 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:15,000 There's not there's no emotion throughout this film. Ava Bridget Moynihan probably gives the best emotional performance in this. 175 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:37,000 Yeah. Well, the only two people who have like emotional characters would be Ava and Vitaly. Everything is kind of from Jack's POV. So some of these characters, you know, might not get the chance to have an emotional moment or an emotional growth just because. 176 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:52,000 Like, I mean, his parents, yeah, they're not in much of the movie. Now, I mean, you see the mothers and fathers like distress in the end when they disown him, but they don't have any other like scenes. 177 00:19:52,000 --> 00:20:07,000 Vitaly, I think there's like a little bit of mystery in the character and his motivations. I don't think he had a drug problem until he started to see the atrocities that were wrapped up in his brother's trade. 178 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:22,000 And that's why he like numbing himself. He just took these drugs and like ran off because he didn't want to be surrounded by the darkness of his brother's life. And he gets found and gets brought back into it. 179 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:32,000 They take him back to America and put him in rehab, which doesn't help because the next time you see him at he shows up at cage's house. 180 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:44,000 He's obviously on it again. He goes right back to rehab. Not long after that. Not helped by the fact that every time they came to drop him off at rehab, he gives him a bump just to get him out of the car. 181 00:20:44,000 --> 00:21:03,000 Yeah, I did like when he got out of the car the second time, though, and he was just like, Hey, Charles, just saying it to the orderly is that I think that there is just a subtler performance from Jared Leto, who I'm not going to spend too much time praising in life. 182 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:11,000 In this early, mad that you don't have a cult. I'm just mad that he never called me back for that role in Morbius. But I thought we could have been great together. 183 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:21,000 Which role? The love interest, obviously. I don't know enough about Morbius to keep this joke going. I don't either. I'm assuming it's blood. I was going to play the role of blood. 184 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:32,000 Yeah. Peter, you have to Photoshop this. Oh, yeah. Just a small pool of me. A puddle of Nick. A puddle of Nick. And Morbius. Yep. 185 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:47,000 But I think he gave us a more interesting performance than we give him credit for it in just that everybody here is working on the fringe of the narrator. 186 00:21:47,000 --> 00:22:02,000 It's hard to, I'm assumed, put anything more into a performance that because it's not written. I don't think that exists for the characters and the actors just had to kind of find it. It's my guess. 187 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:06,000 I mean, that's just me justifying kind of liking the acting. 188 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:18,000 The director. So I looked up the director. He's only done like 12 things. This is the only one I've heard about. So I'm wondering if it's more... What's his name? Andrew Nicole. 189 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:28,000 Give me one thing that he did that I'll never know about. Oh, no. Actually, he has done something we've heard about. He was a writer on the Truman Show. And Gattaca. He directed Gattaca. 190 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:45,000 OK. So but I'm just like... Ethan Hawke tying. Yeah. Well, maybe that's how we got Ethan Hawke on this. Well, let's do quotes real quick. My actual written quote for this was in a voiceover when he gets to Soviet warehouse of AK-47s in Ukraine. 191 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:55,000 The Soviets had guns coming out of the demon hole. Yeah. Which I would love to see the demon hole. I just want to look at it. I think it's in Ohio. 192 00:22:55,000 --> 00:23:01,000 That tracks most demon holes I've seen came from Ohio. 193 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:17,000 All right, Nick. Yeah. Mine was just again in a voiceover because that's what the movie essentially is. They say, evil prevails when good men fail to act. What they ought to say is evil prevails. 194 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:33,000 That line's right after his brother gets killed and the guns he sells that are left wipe out that camp that his brother was trying to save. Yeah. Yeah. Well, because it's kind of a bleak movie. He said, you know, Vitaly was right. 195 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:39,000 They wiped out that camp, but there were 12 other atrocities in that part of Africa that week. 196 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:58,000 So this was a weird one for me and the good cage, good movie, bad cage, bad movie, good, bad, bad, good. I think all in all, this is a good movie. I think it's a really weak performance by Nicolas Cage in that he just kind of reads the dialogue, but doesn't give us much of a performance. 197 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:13,000 Yeah, I can see the the thought of it being like he's just reading the dialogue. It's to me, it's more of just like a one sided conversation. 198 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:28,000 Like, maybe this is just him clearing out his conscience or, you know, trying to have you understand that, like, you know, he did bad things, but he did them for like whatever. 199 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:36,000 Yeah. Like I said earlier, it doesn't feel like he read it to me or it doesn't feel like obviously he read them. 200 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:52,000 No, he improv the whole movie. Everything. I mean, I understand what you're saying. No, I don't mean like he read it, but just I didn't find anything really in his performance that made me appreciate his performance or like believe him as a character versus his. 201 00:24:52,000 --> 00:25:09,000 It just felt like very for me, it felt very just like Nick Cage and not like Nick Cage, but not quite the not quite the highs of his more serious roles and not quite the highs of a strung out character. 202 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:17,000 And there's there's an argument that, you know, for some more strung out scenes in this, I would have liked more because I did like the film. 203 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:31,000 Yeah. As far as pushing it further, though, I'd probably argue that would be in bad taste just because of how much of this is attributed to or, you know, based on actual events. 204 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:36,000 I don't need a joke right before some child gets slaughtered. 205 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:43,000 I just wanted, you know, I just more emotional response. Just more emotion, just more emotional acting from him. 206 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:52,000 I see that. I understand what you're saying. I feel a little different just that it's OK to be mid because it is. 207 00:25:52,000 --> 00:26:06,000 Well, people are more mid. That's also true. That's fair. And in something so like realistically based, I feel like it would take away the gravitas of the grander story. 208 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:10,000 The movie is more about the message than the characters. I will agree. I will. That is true. 209 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:19,000 So on that note, then, I mean, we did talk about this in this week in Cage several months back or whatever, but they are making a sequel potentially to this. 210 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:26,000 So in 2018, Kevin Smith asked Nicholas Cage which of his movies he would like most to make a sequel to. 211 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:34,000 And he said Lord of War. He would like to really see the relationship between his character and his son 20 years later. 212 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:42,000 And the writer heard that was like, that sounds awesome. And it started writing it. And Bill Skarsgard is attached to play the song. 213 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:48,000 Do you guys think that this is a necessary movie potentially or going back to what we just talked to her? 214 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:53,000 I'm like, I'm I personally a little more interested in the emotional like stakes of these characters that message. 215 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:59,000 I wouldn't mind seeing a more character focused version of this guy. 216 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:05,000 What if it's just Bill Skarsgard with like a fat fucking cigar shooting AKs all the entire movie? 217 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:09,000 I definitely want to see that. I do want to see that, actually. 218 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:18,000 You know, I rewatched this last night and enjoyed it just as much. My critiques aside, I thought the whole the thing as a whole is a quite compelling. 219 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:26,000 Yeah. For a number four, I thought it felt a little short for me, but it holds my attention when I watch it. 220 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:32,000 It's hard to talk about, but I liked it. I thought it was a good movie. I thought Nicolas Cage did a good job in it. 221 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:40,000 So our next film up is Captain Kareli's Mandalay, a film about a woman who wants to fuck a mandolin. 222 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,000 Let's get back to this comedy podcast. 223 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:47,000 I think Cage is at least somewhat charming in this movie, but not a ton. 224 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:58,000 Yeah. So this film is in the broad strokes, Italian occupation of a Greek, Italian occupation of a Greek. 225 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:03,000 There's a lot of hand gestures going on around my face right now and I'm uncomfortable with it. 226 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:07,000 You can't say broad strokes, Sean. Yeah. 227 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,000 Lady strokes. 228 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:18,000 The Italian occupation of a Greek island during World War Two, Nicolas Cage plays the eponymous Captain Kareli and he brings his mandolin, 229 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,000 who you think would be the star of the show, but really isn't it that much. 230 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:28,000 I expected like an animated mandolin, like dulling out wisdom and like singing songs about, you know, how we're all like the same. 231 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,000 Was that only in the blu ray? Because I got all of that. God damn it. 232 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:36,000 Again, mandolin fucking. What are we doing? Captain Cantonelli's. 233 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:41,000 Yeah, Captain Canole is mandolin. There we go. That's what I wanted to get at. Captain Canole is mandolin. 234 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:51,000 So we've got this Greek island and a little like slice of life story in the opening with young Grecian woman. 235 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,000 So John Hurt. I'll just go through the cast real quick. 236 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,000 Perfect time to do it right in the middle of the sentence. 237 00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:01,000 We're describing the characters. Oh, man. I have Honeymoon in Vegas pulled up still. 238 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,000 So I was like, Mahi, Mahi. I don't remember. 239 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:12,000 So Nicholas Cage plays Captain Antonio Correlli. Mahi, Mahi was the German captain. 240 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:21,000 Penelope Cruz plays Pelagia. John Hurt is Dr. Yanis. Christian Bale as Mondros. 241 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:26,000 And a bunch of Italian actors. I'm not going to attempt to pronounce their name. 242 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,000 I think the only other one that stood out to me was David Morrissey. 243 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,000 David Morrissey is Gunter. Is Gunter the German captain. 244 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,000 Yeah, I thought he was well cast. 245 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,000 I'm just going to get this out of the way right now so it can be edited out easily. 246 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:46,000 This movie tries real hard to make a sympathetic Nazi character and like all media, completely fails at that. 247 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:51,000 I don't think they tried too hard on that one. I mean, they want you to not hate him. 248 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:55,000 They want you to not hate him the least. Right. 249 00:29:55,000 --> 00:30:02,000 I think what they wanted was to be like, hey, guys, like this is the whole theme of the movie. 250 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:06,000 Fascism is complicated. Yeah, that is kind of the entire gist. 251 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:13,000 Yeah. You know, living through the fall of Western civilization, I don't know if it's that complicated. 252 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:19,000 Oh, also almost always going to take it. Just because the accent work in this movie is atrocious across the board. 253 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:24,000 I feel fully fine with us doing any bad accent that you want to do, even if it's really bad. 254 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,000 Oh, I'm going to. OK, because they're all terrible. 255 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:32,000 We should just put a stinger in the beginning where you explain that it's OK. 256 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:38,000 No, the stinger is you just take my clip from last week saying Italians are people. 257 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,000 Yeah, exactly. That's the way we start everything off every week. 258 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:45,000 Previously on CageMatch, Italians are people. 259 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,000 Fuck! 260 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,000 Oh, I'm not saying don't do it, but don't do it. 261 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:54,000 I mean, I kind of think that's the perfect way to open it up. 262 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,000 It's pretty good. Yeah, I mean, it's a strong start. 263 00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:00,000 We're not big in Italy right now, so we're big with Germany. 264 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,000 If you do do that, you have to keep this little riff in. Oh, absolutely. 265 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,000 Otherwise, we just look bad. 266 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,000 We don't look like anything. It's an audio only format. 267 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:14,000 All right. So, Nick, bring us through the quick plot line. 268 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:18,000 Boy, where did I leave off? Oh, yeah. The first sentence. 269 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,000 So it's about. 270 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,000 Did you know Irene Pappas was in this? 271 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,000 I am going to unplug your microphone. 272 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,000 I'll stop. 273 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,000 Starts out just giving us a story of a father and daughter. 274 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,000 He's the doctor on the island. 275 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,000 She's kind of like learning from him. 276 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:41,000 They have kind of a, you know, quaint little life. 277 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,000 It's in the shadow of World War Two. 278 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:53,000 Her boyfriend played by Christian Bale, Mandras, kind of is a big man child. 279 00:31:53,000 --> 00:32:00,000 He goes off, you know, after getting engaged with Pelle. 280 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,000 Pelle. 281 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,000 Pelle. 282 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,000 I sanctioned these stereotypes. 283 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:11,000 He goes off and fights off the attack. 284 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:16,000 He beats off the Italians on the mainland or on another island, 285 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:23,000 like eight thousand Greek boys beat off about 14000 Italian men. 286 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,000 That's how it went. 287 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:29,000 Then she's writing in letters, but like never hears anything back. 288 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:37,000 The Italians, Hitler isn't going to let his boys, his buddies, boys be beaten down so easily. 289 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:41,000 So he sends the Italians in to occupy this Greek island. 290 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:48,000 They do. That's how we get Nicholas Cage's Captain Kareli and the mandolin played by a mandolin. 291 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:52,000 Yeah. Played by a sitar. Weird. 292 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:57,000 Great. They were trying to be inclusive, taking jobs away from mandolins. 293 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:03,000 This was before the Supreme Court repealed affirmative action. 294 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:07,000 It's been from 2001. 295 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,000 So they arrive on the island. 296 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,000 There's a little bit of back and forth. 297 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:17,000 He's supposed to stay at the doctor's house. 298 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:22,000 Pellegrino. 299 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,000 She doesn't like having him there. 300 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,000 So there's tension. 301 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,000 They eventually kind of start to like each other. 302 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:36,000 This stuff happens in the general fog of war. 303 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:40,000 The Italians surrender and he leaves the island. 304 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,000 But there's a tiff. 305 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:56,000 Some people get hurt and eventually he comes back and he and San Pellegrino kind of have like a relationship. 306 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,000 I think it's fuzzy at the end for me. 307 00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,000 They reconnected. 308 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,000 That's kind of where we. 309 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,000 It's a long movie and it is very slow. 310 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:09,000 This is two kind of slowish two and a half hour movies or whatever. 311 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,000 Like two fifteen movies. 312 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:19,000 I think I decided the order to watch this because this one was two eleven and Lord of War was two hours and seven minutes. 313 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,000 I'm like that's shorter. I'm going to watch that first. 314 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,000 Slightly shorter. That's a credits shorter. 315 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:30,000 I went for Captain Canole first and I do not regret my decision. 316 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,000 Captain Canterbury's marionette. 317 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,000 The wild wilder berries. 318 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,000 Is that a thing? 319 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,000 Thornberries. 320 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,000 There you go. 321 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,000 I wasn't allowed to watch TV growing up so I don't know these things. 322 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,000 This explains a lot. 323 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,000 Yeah. 324 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,000 OK. 325 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,000 We got to talk about the accents. 326 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,000 Let's just kick it off with that because they're. 327 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,000 Which part do you want to talk about first? 328 00:34:53,000 --> 00:35:01,000 So they cast almost exclusively not Greek, Italian or German people for the main speaking roles. 329 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,000 There's lots of Greek actors in this. 330 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,000 Yeah. 331 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:13,000 In auxiliary roles, but like everyone who's a main character, John Hurt, Penelope Cruz, Christian Bale. 332 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,000 And the best accent, Nicolas Cage. 333 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:20,000 As a guy of Italian descent, like it's a shitty Italian accent. 334 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,000 I wish he had done this accent in Moonstruck. 335 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,000 Me too. 336 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:30,000 Moonstruck, an aggressively Italian movie and this one a movie with Italian aggressors. 337 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,000 I said I wasn't going to do the joke, but I did it. 338 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,000 You got it in there. 339 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,000 Don't worry. 340 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,000 We always have the opportunity to edit it out. 341 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,000 That's true. 342 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,000 I have that power. 343 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,000 The worst part about this. 344 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,000 Don't say it in front of me. 345 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:44,000 She's mean. 346 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,000 Well, turn around. 347 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:55,000 The worst part about this movie is there's a scene where Nicolas Cage is like translating Greek for Germans and he reads a message. 348 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,000 Somebody else is just like, what? 349 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:01,000 Well, yeah, I was I was very confused by this and tell it my rewatch. 350 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:08,000 I'm like, is this like Disney's Pocahontas where there's like magical English, where everyone speaks English, but everyone speak in a different language? 351 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:17,000 Because there are times where Nick Cage will translate for the Italian officer to the crowd, but that Italian officer will speak English to Nicolas Cage. 352 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,000 Yeah, it's incredibly puzzling. 353 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,000 It's befuddling. 354 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,000 Like the scene you're talking about. 355 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:31,000 Yeah, it's like it's when the Italians, they march into the square and they're going to take their get the surrender from the mayor of the island. 356 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,000 That mayor rules that mayor rules. 357 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:38,000 I'm going to get my quote right now because my quote is Nicolas Cage's second line in the film. 358 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,000 But the Italian general goes up to the door. 359 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:45,000 The mayor comes out, hands him a note, which is in Greek that he can't read. 360 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:50,000 So Captain Crowley has to go and translate it for the Italian soldiers. 361 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,000 Second line, his second line of film. 362 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,000 He reads it. 363 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,000 Fuck off. 364 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,000 In a British accent. 365 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,000 Yeah, I think he just couldn't say the line. 366 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,000 Like it didn't exist in his mouth properly. 367 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,000 He couldn't get it out right without it sounding. 368 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,000 What if he had done it in an operatic way? 369 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,000 Fuck off. 370 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,000 Pretty good, but it wasn't written that way. 371 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:21,000 He would have to leave forty five and a half bars for the orchestra before he said fuck off. 372 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:31,000 So when you were talking about his second line, Peter and I were busy just making motions and talking to each other about his first line, which is just so good as he 373 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:35,000 he and all the Italians are entering the city and they see 374 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:45,000 Peppuccini over to the right and he just says Bella Luna, like three o'clock. 375 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:50,000 Then like orders all of his men to like salute her until like he walks by. 376 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:57,000 Just left face, which I mean, there's one guy in that march who's like has his eyes crossed. 377 00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:06,000 I think it's so funny because like obviously I've been involved in industries that are not always 378 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:17,000 we don't like openly catcall anybody, but if we see somebody who's attractive, sometimes you make sure other people know that you see an attractive person. 379 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:28,000 I don't know if this is just like the eye test that you go to the optometrist for a while, like just to prove that you can see things or or that you're a straight white male. 380 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:33,000 But you don't get to woo with that, Sean. 381 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,000 Those are our things. 382 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,000 Melan American. Sorry. 383 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:46,000 But like as a stagehand, we used to use terms like trust moving and things like that, things that you would say that people are supposed to 384 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:51,000 like take note of because it's health and safety reason. 385 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,000 They just call that out and everybody would kind of take it. 386 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:58,000 Take a look at wherever you are and scope out the hotties. 387 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:03,000 So I enjoyed Bella Luna. 388 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,000 So he's got this fucking mandolin, right? 389 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:11,000 Like obviously that's a big piece of his character, but he just has like a rope sling around his shoulder. 390 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,000 It would be a gun. It's in a rucksack. 391 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:19,000 So weird to make one step closer to being just a bindle. 392 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:24,000 And so I've got to say, I appreciate the fact that Nick Cage actually learned to play mandolin for this. 393 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,000 Not surprised. Of course he did. 394 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,000 But like he's not very good at it. 395 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,000 Yeah, no one has probably ever heard of mandolin. 396 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:36,000 I'm sure Greek people have heard mandolins. 397 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,000 Greece and Italy aren't that far away from each other. 398 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:45,000 And European history kind of intermingles for about a thousand years at this point. 399 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,000 There were a lot of Greek boys and Roman boys all over each other. 400 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:53,000 So, you know, you know, if this movie had a little more of that, then probably less death in the back half. 401 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:57,000 That's true. Now there'd be something in the back half. 402 00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaking of a wild tonal inconsistencies, the wild tonal inconsistency of this film. 403 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,000 Yeah, describe it to me. I want to know. 404 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:12,000 So this movie starts off as kind of a weird like, yeah, it's a wartime. 405 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:23,000 It's a wartime love like movie kind of comedy like Christian Bale's introduced to us by having like a cannon of rocks for children shot into his ass. 406 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,000 There's a lot of just not intentionally. He didn't ask for it. 407 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,000 But there's a lot of like there's a bit of slapstick in the beginning. 408 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:35,000 It starts with John Hurt like pulling a pea out of someone's ears, being like deaf out of his left side his entire life. 409 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,000 That guy. I like that guy a lot, too. 410 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:46,000 I was saying I liked when they were at the like festival or something and somebody was saying something to him from his left side and they were just. 411 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,000 Yeah. And he looks at them and very calmly says, you don't have to yell. 412 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:56,000 I'm not deaf. So director of this also directed Shakespeare in Love, which is kind of what I went into the singing. 413 00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:01,000 And there's a lot of just there's a lot of humor in the first scene. 414 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:08,000 There's the occupation, which, again, starts with the words fuck off and just it's wacky. 415 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:12,000 Captain Kareli shows up. He's charming and it's silly. 416 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:19,000 And then once the Italians bring prostitutes with them, I'm using the word that pepperoni used. 417 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:26,000 Oh, OK. So give me those damn prostitutes then just hang out on the beach. 418 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:33,000 They sing opera and it's and then once Italy like surrenders to the allies and the Germans kind of come in, 419 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:40,000 then it becomes just a fucking war movie with some really graphic violence, including someone getting shot in the head, people getting mowed down, 420 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:47,000 lots of blood, Nick Cage being left in a pile of dead bodies, a woman being hung by the neck till dead. 421 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:52,000 Like there it's just I have no problem with like if there were violence in the film. Fine. 422 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:57,000 But it's horrendously graphic, shockingly graphic. It's pretty intense. 423 00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:01,000 And then like it all comes in a pretty quick sequence. 424 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,000 So it's true. It's not a very long. 425 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:07,000 It's not like all throughout the movie. There's like two scenes with some violence. 426 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:13,000 That's about it. No. But again, someone gets shot in the head directly. 427 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,000 Like you see the bullet hole. It has a little extra spurt. 428 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:20,000 Yeah, I was a little shocked by that. I thought that was just going to be. 429 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,000 Yeah, you could have you could have cut it away. 430 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:31,000 I'm saying where this movie starts and where this movie goes is just I don't know the words are whole but beautiful. 431 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,000 Bella, hola. 432 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:40,000 And then and then ends and then the movie ends with the guy asking if he can get the pee put back in his ears because he's tired. 433 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,000 His wife, bitch. Yeah. Yeah. 434 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:46,000 It ebbs and flows is what I'm saying. It's an interesting movie overall. 435 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:50,000 Cage's crew, all these guys like they're not fighters at all. 436 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:54,000 Now, they've never seen real action. They don't shoot anybody. 437 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,000 They just sing and love opera. Yeah. 438 00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:02,000 And I did really enjoy that part. And actually my quote from this movie. 439 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:08,000 So he gets this new guy who's like added to the regimen, big beefcake dude named Carlo. 440 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:14,000 And Cage comes up and it's like explaining how the singers and everything in Carlo is just like, what the fuck is all this? 441 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:22,000 Cage is like shaving and singing and all the boys are singing and he's explaining the rules of being part of the crew. 442 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,000 He says these are the rules of engagement. 443 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:34,000 One, all of those called to musical fatigue shall be obliged to play a musical instrument, spoons, the helmet, comb, paper and so on and so on. 444 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:43,000 Two, anyone who says that Donizetti is better than Verdi shall be required to sing Funiculi, Funicula and other songs about railways. 445 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,000 Three, three. 446 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,000 Yeah. Ah. And that was it. 447 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:53,000 There's no three. Yeah. That's good enough. Two is good. 448 00:43:53,000 --> 00:44:01,000 Two is good. There is just a problem with this film in sympathy. 449 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:07,000 I just can't get over the fact that it is just Germans bad, Italians good. 450 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:14,000 But they're both axis, like fascist led countries that committed atrocities. 451 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:18,000 It's just because this guy hasn't shot anybody. 452 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,000 But it's like, are we seriously using the just following orders argument? 453 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,000 Because that's not a good one. I don't think that's right. 454 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:29,000 Like they really try to make you not think about the Italians role in World War II. 455 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:35,000 Even the one soldier who has seen combat, it's like he saved 50 men, never fired a shot, never took a life. 456 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,000 Yeah. I mean, it is still a movie about fucking World War II. Yes. 457 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:49,000 And you don't see a lot of like World War II movies that intentionally portray axis members in sympathetic and lights. 458 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:56,000 Now, that being said, I'm going to talk about one of my favorite scenes when Lemony Lemony Lemony. 459 00:44:56,000 --> 00:45:02,000 I think it was Lemony. The little girl Lemony finds a mine out on the beach. 460 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:13,000 And so Nicolas Cage and his little troupe of opera singers goes down there and they're like, oh, yeah, it's a Turkish mine floated up from World War I. 461 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:17,000 You know, we'll get rid of it. It's probably full of explosives. We'll get rid of it. 462 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:28,000 So there's just a scene of all of his boys down there like whistling and singing and like passing sandbags up and they're building a little bunker. 463 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:33,000 And Nicolas Cage gets the explosives and he sets them up all around the mine. 464 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:37,000 And before he runs the deck toward back to the bunker, he he gives this speech. 465 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:44,000 And this is my my favorite line from this. We are going to explode the bomb. 466 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:51,000 It will be a fantastic explosion. And when the time comes, nobody is to come down to the beach. 467 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:59,000 And it cuts to a POV from the ridge line where everybody is watching and it's just indistinct audio because nobody can hear what he's saying. 468 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,000 And you can kind of hear him like muffled down there. 469 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:09,000 And then he starts rolling this deck toward back and then it ends like 20 yards away from the bunker. 470 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:14,000 He just sits there and looks at it, looks at the deck, looks at the bunker. 471 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:20,000 And then it goes right back to a scene of all the Italians passing sandbags down the beach as they move the bunker. 472 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,000 And you're talking about like totally consistent. 473 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:31,000 Yeah, absolutely. It's it's got little kind of corny fun things inside of a wartime drama. 474 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:36,000 Yes, I appreciated the comedy in it. Oh, I do, too. 475 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:42,000 I it is like watching two different movies, even if one of them is just a short film. 476 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:51,000 I do like the juxtaposition of when the Italians come marching into the city, like their occupation forces, as opposed to when the Nazis do, when the Germans do. 477 00:46:51,000 --> 00:47:03,000 Because when the Italians do, like they're all like just walk marching in like cat calling women and they have like these little what look like metal slug tanks, just tiny like one man like tanks. 478 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,000 Different game for them for sure. 479 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:13,000 How did the same like? Yeah. Well, the Germans brought like an extra element to to land war that I don't think the Italians ever had. 480 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:23,000 What did you guys think about the romance between him and like most Nicholas Cage like most Nicholas Cage romance films? 481 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:29,000 There comes a scene where the lead female actor is told to just fucking get on with it. 482 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:33,000 Yeah, like she it's not kissing. She is kissed. 483 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:37,000 Yeah. Well, yeah. And there's just there's a lot of them sniping each other. 484 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:41,000 She likes is she's engaged to Batman. 485 00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,000 He's got those deft mandolin fingers. Yeah. Yeah. 486 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:49,000 Well, he's got like a depth of character and that her dummy boyfriend, her dummy fiance don't. 487 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,000 Yeah. A growth. He's a fucking mature adult. 488 00:47:52,000 --> 00:48:02,000 Like he has fun, but it's not like Mandra's who distracted her while his friend tied her dress to a chair. 489 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:07,000 He was kind of a dick. Yeah. And then let her stand up and then just laughs at her. 490 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:11,000 She has a chair attached to her. The deepest thing he's ever probably said to another human being. 491 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:15,000 Yeah. Like confessing her love for her in front of the entire island. 492 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,000 It's like, haha, I made you look dumb. Just as a distraction. 493 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:21,000 Yeah. And he was just a big man child. 494 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:26,000 He like he writes her a song and plays it for everybody one night. 495 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:29,000 And she's embarrassed and runs away because he says it's her song. 496 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:35,000 That song sucks. Yeah. And the next time they see each other, you just like, I love you. 497 00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:39,000 I don't care who knows it. And then they fuck. Yeah, they do. 498 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:45,000 And her dad knows right away. Yeah. Her dad's just straight up like next time you see him, tell him I have his mandolin. 499 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:51,000 Her dad had also established like he was in like the same situation as Cage. 500 00:48:51,000 --> 00:49:00,000 Not wartime criminal stuff, but in that like he fell in love with somebody who was already engaged. 501 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:05,000 And that's how he and Puppuccino's mom got together. 502 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,000 That's the best one. Puppuccino is a good one. 503 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:14,000 I do. I do love that speech. I wanted to thank you for bringing that up because I do love when he's talking to Captain Corelli about that, 504 00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:18,000 because he gives him the speech about like how, you know, if you love someone, it shouldn't matter. 505 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:24,000 And then he was like, this island's known nothing but war and disaster for centuries. Don't make any plans. 506 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:30,000 Yeah. So the Italians have to like surrender their arms to the Germans before they can go home. 507 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:34,000 And yeah, so the Germans show up and make them do it at gunpoint. 508 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:42,000 The situation is the Italians have surrendered. Yeah, Mussolini surrendered to the British and the Americans. 509 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:50,000 So they're all going home because they're out of the war. But Germany's just like, hey, you can't go with your guns. 510 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:54,000 Like, we're not going to let you take these guns back to Italy. 511 00:49:54,000 --> 00:50:03,000 And we're not going to let some smooth talking arms trafficker come in afterwards and sell your weapons to the Greeks. 512 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,000 We found the connective tissue. Yeah. 513 00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:09,000 The threat of arms trafficking. Great job. Yeah, I do. 514 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:15,000 Who would have thought that a movie about war and one called Lord of War would be tied in by war? 515 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:20,000 So they say like you have until this day, like on this day, you have to surrender your weapons as you leave. 516 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:28,000 And they come around and try to take the weapons. They're like at gunpoint, like Germans hiding on the ridge. 517 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:33,000 Like, yeah, fuck. Like the Germans show up and, you know, Gunther is just like, no, it's fine. 518 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:42,000 Orders came from on high. And then even like, it's like Antonio, when this is over, we can still be friends, you know, after before. 519 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:46,000 And Kevin goes, fuck you. Yeah. He's the first to lay down his arms. 520 00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:53,000 His soldiers do it. And one Italian soldier licks a cigarette butt at one of the German soldiers. 521 00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:57,000 That German like gives him a push. He's like, don't fucking touch me. 522 00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:00,000 And then the Germans just mow down three Italians. 523 00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:09,000 And that's how we get to the inciting incident where the Italian army, the Romanian Italian army decides to like hold the island and join with the Greeks. 524 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:13,000 Yeah. Fuck the Germans up. And they don't. No, no. 525 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:17,000 And afterwards, the remaining Italians get captured. 526 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:21,000 They are driven away as prisoners of war. 527 00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:29,000 And then some boxes just pop open and get mowed the fuck down by like German artillery. 528 00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:40,000 Also, OK, I don't know how the human body works with like taking a bunch of bullets in it, but the big dude, Carlo, saves Nick Cage by giving him like a big bear hug and absorbing all the bullets. 529 00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,000 But they were shooting like heavy machine guns into him. 530 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:47,000 He did. Cage did have bullet wounds. Yeah. He had some bullet wounds. 531 00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:51,000 Some went through. Yeah. But even still, it seems like a lot more would have. 532 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:57,000 Probably slowed them down a lot more so that they don't have quite a concussive. 533 00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:01,000 So we have like we have these very kind of serious rough scenes. 534 00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,000 Nick Cage survives, found by Mondras and returned. 535 00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:09,000 And then Mondras does something good. Mondras helps Cage get off the island and back to Italy. 536 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:13,000 And when asked why he did it. Mondras. The hand of fate. Mondras. 537 00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,000 Wait, no. That's Manos the hand of fate. 538 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:21,000 I have no more funny names for Penelope Cruz. 539 00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,000 Pickleball. Pirulini. 540 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:28,000 When she asked like Mondras, like why he let him live. 541 00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:33,000 It's like I wanted you to love me again. And he like reads her final letter to him, which is just like, I never loved you. 542 00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:36,000 Porta Bella. Porta. 543 00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:39,000 I'll tell you. We'll allow that one. 544 00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:43,000 The next scene is war's over. We're all fine again. 545 00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:49,000 All right. Movie's over. And then John Hurt is writing a letter to Nicholas Cage 546 00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:53,000 because they get a record from Italy with no note inside of it. 547 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:56,000 But it's Pellegrino's song. 548 00:52:56,000 --> 00:53:04,000 I'm doing it now. And John Hurt's writing this letter about how it's like we can only we if we can help if we can cure someone, we have to. 549 00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:07,000 And they've mentioned that, you know, Greece is known for earthquakes. 550 00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:11,000 Earthquakes happen. The island is leveled in an earthquake. 551 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:14,000 And then we cut to everything's fine again. 552 00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:18,000 I'm assuming the earthquake was in the book. I'm assuming maybe that was longer. 553 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:21,000 The earthquake does nothing for this movie. 554 00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:27,000 It wasn't the book because John Hurt dies. Yeah, it was in the book, but it's also chronologically out of order. 555 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:32,000 Yeah, exactly. It happens in the real world in like 52 or something. 556 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,000 53. Yeah. And they made it in 47. 557 00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:41,000 So I love the idea. So when the earthquake happens, I'm an earthquake purist, please. 558 00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:45,000 This is a history pod. When the earthquake happens in the movie, we're all about moving or shaking. 559 00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:54,000 It's John Ham's voiceover interrupting Sean of a letter he's writing to Jeff and Corelli about like how, you know, 560 00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,000 I don't know who like I don't know who set the record. 561 00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,000 I don't know if it was you. I don't know if this will get you. 562 00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:02,000 But it's like him voicing over writing a letter, more voiceover. 563 00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:05,000 And then it's him at a writing desk writing something. 564 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,000 Then the earthquake happens. 565 00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:11,000 Catherine Carly shows up things like I got your father's letter that could have just been a voiceover. 566 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,000 He could have just been writing a desk. 567 00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:16,000 And then he's like, did he save the letter? 568 00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:20,000 If he didn't save the letter, did he write a new letter and forget to mention the earthquake? 569 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:23,000 Why didn't he just add at the end of this letter? Oh, P.S. 570 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,000 Oh, shit. It's an earthquake. 571 00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,000 I am actively in an earthquake. 572 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:32,000 When you come to find my daughter in an, you know, sometime next year, the house is no longer there. 573 00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:33,000 There was an earthquake. 574 00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,000 The handwriting is just the Richter scale. 575 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:39,000 It got real illegible in the middle, but you brought it back. 576 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:43,000 It's just as flexible as the movie starts and lemon is old. 577 00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,000 Lemon is there. 578 00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:49,000 But then by this point in the movie, it's two hours later. 579 00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:52,000 I forgot about the P guy. Oh, yeah. 580 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:55,000 And it's just this like little gag of like, can you put the P back in my ear? 581 00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,000 I'm sick of hearing my wife, bitch. 582 00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,000 I'm like, this movie. Yeah. 583 00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,000 I know this is not a good film. 584 00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,000 I enjoy a lot of it. 585 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:07,000 I really enjoyed a lot of it, too. 586 00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,000 It's a beautiful film. It's filmed beautifully. 587 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:10,000 I mean, like peaceful. 588 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,000 Well, the island is beautiful. 589 00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,000 And I would love to see it someday. 590 00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:20,000 I won't because I'm a realist and I'm never going to go to that specific island, but it's pretty in the movie. 591 00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:26,000 So for me, in terms of both these films, these ones both came down to which one do I want to like more? 592 00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:33,000 And I will say Captain Crowley's Mandolin was so much of an earnest attempt at making a movie. 593 00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:36,000 I did like that the director's name is John Madden. 594 00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,000 That's what I call war. 595 00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,000 Yeah, we got there. Yeah. 596 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:45,000 I see the heart and love of all the performers, despite how bad they all are. 597 00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:50,000 Yeah, that's the thing is like the acting in this for me fell short of Lord of War. 598 00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:58,000 As the two movies go like the story, it doesn't necessarily make me sympathetic or anything to the Italian wartime ever. 599 00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,000 But or Italian people. 600 00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,000 But we've established they are. 601 00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:07,000 I feel like really it's a more engaging story. 602 00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:14,000 Yeah, and it's it's an easier one to sit back and think about and not even like a complicated emotion sense. 603 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,000 It's like I can I can see how the story works. 604 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:19,000 Yeah, I mean, ultimately, this is a love story. 605 00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:24,000 Two people during wartime, the real world implications of World War Two. 606 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,000 Air quotes on people. 607 00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:33,000 The the real world implications and knowledge of World War Two of Italianism, Italian, like Italian fascism and stuff. 608 00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:34,000 Yeah, it does. 609 00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:39,000 You know, it does make it kind of a hard sell to like want to like root for them. 610 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,000 You watch the movie in a bubble. 611 00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:42,000 Yeah, you have to watch this movie in a bubble. 612 00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:47,000 Despite the bad acting, I feel like everyone tried to bring something to this film. 613 00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:51,000 Yeah. So it begs the question, what do you guys want to go on? 614 00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:56,000 And like I said, this one's a tough one, because this is like, which one do I want to like more? 615 00:56:56,000 --> 00:57:00,000 Like, I think I want to like Lord of War more. 616 00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:04,000 But I think I like actually like Captain Kareli's Mabel in more. 617 00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:11,000 Yeah, I'm I think I'm I'm going to push Captain Kareli's Lord of War was good. 618 00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:18,000 Mm hmm. I just have a complicated, I don't know, time trying to like talk about it. 619 00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:21,000 It's it doesn't upset me. It's just it's a it. 620 00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:24,000 I mean, that's a film that has a lot of it has a lot of things to say. 621 00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,000 It's got merit to it. Yes. 622 00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:29,000 Just because it doesn't move on doesn't mean it doesn't deserve to exist. 623 00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:32,000 And there's a lot of reasons why you should watch it. 624 00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,000 And that's true with all of these films, except Primal. 625 00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:38,000 Oh, shots. Hard disagree. 626 00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:42,000 But it's a great white jag. White jag. 627 00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:48,000 I will watch that tonight. 628 00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:51,000 Crime. Crime. Crime. 629 00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:55,000 Yeah, so I think we're good. 630 00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:59,000 We're good. Yeah, I think Captain Kareli, it's it's charming. 631 00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:04,000 It's silly. It's it's a lot of things, but I feel like there is a lot more 632 00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:07,000 a lot more of the creative like interest in the film than the other one. 633 00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:10,000 I feel. Yeah. Plus you get to hear him sing opera. 634 00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:16,000 Well, not bad. It's also just I mean, it is fun to hear the really bad accents. 635 00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:24,000 And it is kind of fun to see the stupid little sticks that they inserted into this movie. 636 00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:29,000 A serious movie doesn't have to just leave me feeling drained. 637 00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:35,000 This movie does a good job of giving a serious look at a serious subject. 638 00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:38,000 And it doesn't drag. 639 00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:42,000 Captain Kareli, you made it. Yeah, I finally made it. 640 00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:48,000 You're going up against eight millimeter and the bad lieutenant semicolon port of call 641 00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:53,000 hyphen New Orleans. Yeah, whichever one of those moves forward, the mandolin doesn't make it through the movie. 642 00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:56,000 Spoiler. I love the mandolin. Yeah. 643 00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,000 What are we what are we what are we doing next? All right. 644 00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:01,000 Next week, we've got Wild at Heart and Knowing. 645 00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:07,000 And for anyone who is listening to this back in time, you can watch Wild at Heart with Nick and Sean. 646 00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:10,000 Tomorrow. Let's plug the thing. 647 00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,000 You can do it. You can do it, guys. 648 00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:15,000 So two weeks, two weeks ago, you could have watched this movie with us. 649 00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:18,000 That's true. Enjoy that. 650 00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:22,000 Most importantly, this will be the first time that we watch a movie together. 651 00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:25,000 Yes. Yeah. Say no words to one another. 652 00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,000 I mean, we won't be able to like. No worries about that. 653 00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:32,000 I hate talking to you guys. This last year has been hell. 654 00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:35,000 Well, you got another year of this, at least. Yeah, that's true. 655 00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,000 And then you have our next podcast. 656 00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:39,000 Unless I can come up with body doubles. 657 00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:43,000 We've established people look like there's a lot of weird. 658 00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:48,000 The hard thing is on an audio only format that doesn't really absolve me from much. 659 00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,000 That's true. Yeah. 660 00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:53,000 Just got to find somebody else who's close to magic. 661 00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:57,000 Yeah. So anyway, thanks for listening. And please rate, review, subscribe. 662 00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:02,000 We are on Instagram at Cage underscore match underscore pod because we are late to the game. 663 01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:06,000 Also, don't forget to yell at your neighbors. We yell at shit at your neighbors. 664 01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:08,000 We haven't done that in a while. Tell them all. Tell everyone. 665 01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:11,000 You can chat with us on Reddit. We were a cage match pod. 666 01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:14,000 And if you're interested, you can get us. 667 01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:18,000 You can give us money and support us on Patreon at Cage match. 668 01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:20,000 It's super helpful for us. 669 01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:26,000 At some point, we're going to get better equipment and fund some other fun shit for you all to listen to. 670 01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:29,000 The Burnt Notice podcast coming up. Burn notice podcast. 671 01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:35,000 Well, drop down in the comments and let us know who has the best Italian accent. 672 01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,000 Oh, do we want to do you want to give a quick read? 673 01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,000 So they have something to share. 674 01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:42,000 Wait, hang on. Let me let me give a let me give a shout out to the patrons first. 675 01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:45,000 Do it in Italian. You do that. I'll find a sample. 676 01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:51,000 A special thanks to our sparkle buddies, Josh, Sean, Jules, Rico, Matt and Adam. 677 01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:56,000 Special thanks to our cage dancers, Ira, John and Freeman. 678 01:00:56,000 --> 01:01:01,000 Cage dancers, cage dancers and gestures. 679 01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:02,000 Thank you for listening. 680 01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:05,000 When the moon hits your eye like a big pizza pie. 681 01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:09,000 And then we can all say that's amore together. 682 01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:12,000 So everybody says when the moon hits your eye like a big pizza pie. 683 01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:16,000 Yeah. And then and then all together we'll say that's amore. 684 01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:17,000 So why don't you go for it? 685 01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:22,000 All right. When the moon hits your eye like a big pizza pie. 686 01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:27,000 When the moon hits your eye like a big pizza pie. 687 01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:34,000 When the moon hits your eye like a big pizza pie. 688 01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:38,000 That's amore. 689 01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:39,000 We're sorry, Italy. 690 01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:40,000 Thank you for listening. 691 01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,000 Yeah, I do. Yeah, we're sorry, Italy. 692 01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:44,000 I do. I do love Italy. I want to go back some day. 693 01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:56,000 No one no one like a fucking pop filter. 694 01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:59,000 Stop it. 695 01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,000 OK, yeah. So what were you going to say? 696 01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,000 What's it taste like, Nick? 697 01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:06,000 Yeah. Your mouth. General foam. 698 01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,000 Or my mouth. Yeah, I don't know who had this one last. 699 01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:11,000 Let me try again. 700 01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:13,000 Oh, it was Sean. That is a Sean. 701 01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:16,000 Yeah, I know that one. 702 01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:18,000 I'm caught in a crack. That's why I'm doing something weird here. 703 01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:25,000 Yeah, right. Hang on. I'm still caught. 704 01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:27,000 This is the episode that was all on patrons. 705 01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:30,000 Yeah, exactly. No, we're going to get weirder new ones. 706 01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:32,000 Good. 707 01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:37,000 There's going to be a lot of cage dancers added. 708 01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:39,000 Which is my sweet spot. 709 01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:41,000 It's a good spot to be. 710 01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:46,000 Yeah, I don't have a sweet spot. I have a slightly bitter spot. 711 01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:49,000 But it's just as good for licking. That's my core. 712 01:02:49,000 --> 01:03:12,000 Bella Hola.