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I had intense fear and panic because we were obviously crashing.

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Out of my heart came the thought, oh God help, I'm going to die.

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From the time that they pronounced me dead was a good 45 minutes.

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It's determined that I was not breathing for 20 minutes.

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They cut my clothes and then they paddled my heart, my heart had stopped.

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And I could see people screaming and crying, but I didn't realize that was actually my

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physical body because I was somewhere else.

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About 20 past four in the afternoon, by half past seven I was dead, clinically dead, four minutes.

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And they were crying because I was dead and I was trying to tell them, no I'm not dead,

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I'm just fine, I'm okay.

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I was greeted by people I had known in the past.

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I started to feel like I was surrounded by all this warm, loving, beautiful, soothing,

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loving energy.

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I'm back with God again.

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I just felt this almighty release like, wow, I'm back, I'm back home again.

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Incredibly safe and felt at home.

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I'd come back home, it was a very strong feeling, I've come back home.

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The only thing that I could feel, if you can imagine, absolute love and peace.

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There wasn't anything else to be felt.

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And light is literally emitting from him.

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And I could feel that that tremendous amount of love was coming through him as well.

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They were brighter than everybody else and I just knew who they were.

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I'd like to welcome everybody to Round Trip Desk.

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Hey, it's good to see you.

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We have a guest clear across the pond again today.

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This is getting to be a regular thing to be over in the UK and I want to try to pronounce

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it right, okay?

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So we have Paul Northridge and he is in Derbyshire.

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Correct, that's correct.

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Yes, okay.

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I'm glad to hear that.

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First thing, my first question of the day is, do you have a t-shirt that says, unite?

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What's the bottom say?

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Unite planet.

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Unite, don't fight.

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What does that mean?

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As it says on the tin, yeah, just to unite everyone together and to, yeah, just to be

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friendly with each other and basically to throw away labels and yeah, just be together.

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This is John Lennon's song that that reminds me of.

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Would you sing it for us?

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I don't sing, first of all.

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And secondly, I'm not a big fan of the Beatles, so that's another thing.

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No, okay.

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We now have nothing in common.

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Hey, Paul.

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I appreciate you jumping on with us today.

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Tell us a little bit about yourself.

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Okay, so just to dive into my history before the near-death experience.

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So I was born with spina bifida and so I had a birth defect on my spine.

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It basically was a hole in the back.

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It was part of a large hole for a baby.

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And so basically I was on a death door quite early on.

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I had a lot of blood going out, so that had to be sonaled very, very quickly.

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And then once the hole was sonaled, then another thing started to happen is called hydrocephalus.

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And that means it's a fluid on the brain.

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So that was basically my brain was getting quite, well, unfortunately big, but not more

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IQ level, unfortunately, but it's getting bigger because of the fluid.

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And so they thought, okay, well, let's now do a shunt operation.

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So the shunt operation in 1972 was quite a dangerous procedure.

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So basically meant like a fixator had to go around the head and then the drain of the

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fluid would happen from this device.

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So my parents being, well, my mum being Catholic, she was really concerned about the operation.

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It was risky for a baby.

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So they said, okay, well, let's have it baptized.

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So the day before the operation, I was baptized.

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My parents on that day, when they came back from the ceremony, they said, okay, well,

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I hope this, maybe this ceremony might help in some way.

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Because it felt something happened that day.

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And so they said, okay, let's see what happens anyway.

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And so long story short, in that one, the morning of my operation, my parents got a

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phone call and said, Mr. and Mrs. Northridge, yes.

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Well, fortunately, we've got some good news for you.

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Paul's brain swelling issue, had to go for this, is no longer the case.

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It's actually now reducing.

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I don't know if it was some kind of miracle or it's just how it was.

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I mean, I just see it how it was really, for self.

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But anyway, so long story short, I came close to death a couple of times in early stages.

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And then, yeah, I can then now go into the time when I was 14, if you like, Eric.

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Well, tell me how has that affected your health throughout your life, the spina bifida?

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Spina bifida, okay.

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So my main issue is about paralysis.

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The right leg is 90% paralyzed.

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I can't feel most of my right leg at all.

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But being a kid, I was still quite a strong, serene lad.

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My parents, especially my dad, was a bit of a sighted major.

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He wasn't a sighted major in behavior or anything like that, but he was like a sighted major

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in nature.

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He was the person that would give me a bit of a kick and come on, Paul, you can, you

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can, if you will.

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So I had operations regularly.

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So I must have walked.

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So I started to walk maybe around about a little bit older than some children, maybe

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around about three, four.

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I started to walk.

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So a little bit later than most children.

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And then I went to normal school.

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And that was difficult because, unfortunately, I got bullied a lot because I was any child

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that had a disability.

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So that was quite significant with my near-death experience.

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I'll tell you a little bit more later about that.

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In regards to pain levels and tiredness, spine bifida is very, very tiring in nature and

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it's also quite painful.

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But I deal with it.

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And I think most people, if they have a day of going into my body and lifting my body

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for a day or for a day, yeah, let's go back to our body again, shall we?

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It's not the best body to have.

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Well, I'll let our listeners know you look healthy and strong.

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Yeah, yeah.

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I mean, same, you know, I mean, I'm also quite, I do believe in, we manifest things ourselves

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as well.

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And I think I manifest myself as quite a strong person.

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And I am, I am quite strong.

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My dad gave me a very strong character.

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So I'm very determined.

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I still work.

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I'm a full-time worker.

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I can sit on the bottom.

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I can talk to people.

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So I don't, I can't be a waiter in a hotel or I can't be, you know, something that involves

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my legs.

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So I can sit down.

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I can talk to people and I help people in recruitment.

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So I get young people to have jobs.

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And I love my job because it is changing people's lives.

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And so that's amazing, really.

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Yeah, that's awesome.

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Okay, good.

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Well, let's go back to when you were 14 years old, what led up to the surgery and what happened

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at that time?

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Okay.

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So the operation I was due to have was called a brunner operation.

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The brunner operation is a leg-rentening operation.

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The right leg, because of the paralysis, it was very, very slow in growth.

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The right leg would not grow as fast as the left leg.

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The left leg has got, I'll say about 80% feeling okay, but 10% feeling a bit paralyzed.

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So I could still drive with my left leg.

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So that's the stronger leg.

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The right leg was short by about, I'll say about, do you know centimeters in America?

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Centimeters, your?

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Yeah, it's about two and a half to an inch, something like that.

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Inches, inches.

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If we do inches.

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So I'll say around about four to five inches, differences.

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That's a big, yeah, that's a big, big difference.

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So originally I was having a built up shoe.

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So the shoe was really heavy for me.

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And I was using catapults as well.

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So it was quite hard to move and walk.

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So my surgeon, he was a good guy called Mr. Newton.

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He didn't like being a doctor or anything like that.

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He always wanted to be called Mr. Newton.

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You have that kind of ego.

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He didn't have that kind of ego to say I'm better.

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And he was just a nice guy.

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So he decided, okay, this operation will lengthen my leg.

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And they did go ahead of myself a little bit.

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But in the short period of time, in six weeks period, my dad had to like turn a key on this

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device and my leg stretched every day more and more because what they did was they, my

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thigh bone had two pins, another break, then another two pins above the break.

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And then so this device then basically opened this break, opened and opened and opened.

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So eventually my leg grew and I'm about two inches in the short period.

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That sounds like some kind of medieval torture chamber.

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It wasn't painful.

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Really?

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Oh, that's great.

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Well, compared to maybe some people, it's painful, but I've also got a very good threshold

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of pain.

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I mean, I don't really bother with it too much, but yeah, it basically grew quite a

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lot in that short period.

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And it was painful on cleaning the wounds, but a lot of them had to clean the pins with

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iodine regularly.

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So that was the painful part.

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But anyway, so going back to the actual operation.

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So I was 14 and I was quite old in nature by 14.

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I've had a lot of operations.

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I'm very old, already quite mature at 14.

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I'm more like a 20 something year old person in my head because I've had a lot going off.

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So I'm in the theatre.

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Before that they gave me a pre-med.

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The pre-med made me feel rather drunk.

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It just makes you relaxed.

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That's the whole idea of the pre-med, just to make you feel relaxed.

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Then they gave me a muscle relaxant.

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That was then a very, very bad reaction to me because I was then going to have an anesthetic

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after that.

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So I was getting ready for that.

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Anyway, so they gave me this muscle relaxant and not too long after that I felt like a

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whole whoosh.

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I can't describe how excited I was.

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It just felt like a whole flush came up and I could feel really painful hands.

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My hands were pulsating and I thought, okay, what's that?

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So I looked at my hands straight away and they were twice as big and they were swollen.

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So I was thinking, oh God, this is not good.

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So I'm already panicking at this moment thinking I've got a reaction going on.

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I'm shouting to Mr. Newton.

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Mr. Newton is ready.

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He's getting himself ready for the procedure.

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So I said, Mr. Newton, please look at me.

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And as he's then turning around to look at me, I can see his panic in his eyes.

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And then I'm out.

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It feels like at that moment I'm literally unplugged.

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It feels like I'm seeing black.

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But at this moment I don't have anything in my eyes.

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I'm not a person anymore.

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I'm actually a soul.

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So I'm seeing black in my vision of what I can see.

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And as I'm seeing black and aware of black, then I'm coming out of my body at an angle,

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which is not directly over my body, but I'm at an angle so I can see my body.

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I can also see stuff around my body.

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So yeah, I'm not panicking at that moment.

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I'm not concerned.

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It was more of my natural self was thinking, OK, where am I?

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Oh, that was my body.

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Like as if I was looking at a vehicle that's just been, I've just cracked my vehicle and

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I'm not really concerned about it anymore.

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He wasn't like, oh gosh, I want to get back to my body again.

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He wasn't any of that nature at all.

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So you felt calm, you felt relaxed, just sort of interesting.

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What's going on?

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Yeah, exactly.

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That kind of nature.

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Curious, I would say.

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Very, very curious.

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That was my feelings.

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And the thing when you're a soul or right being, whatever it is, it's just completely different

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to the person.

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I mean, I was 14 at the time.

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So I think a 14-year-old myself at that time would have been quite having a bit of anger

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because I was bullied a lot.

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It's still excitement as well and all this kind of stuff, but the feelings of a soul

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is different.

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It's hard to describe it fully.

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But yeah, more of a curious nature, I would say.

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That was the first feelings I'm feeling.

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So as I'm looking down on myself and getting to know where I am, not too long after that,

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then I'm feeling like I can see maybe 60.

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So I can then, depends on where I'm focused on, I can feel then another thing happening.

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So I must have looked away from myself to then look at the wall.

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And in the theater wall, it looked like it was opening up a portal.

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It looked like the aurora borealis, greenish, bluish, misty, like a jellyfishy kind of material

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going on.

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And I was just doing battle and opening up.

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I'm noticing three beings traveling towards me.

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And these beings were light beings.

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They have all colors of maybe like a silverish look, but they also sparked different color

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colors, green, yellow, blue.

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But again, colors are very different to what we see with our eyes now.

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It's hard to describe it completely.

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But anyway, that's the kind of, they have an edged shape, then they have a shoulders

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shape and then they kind of like dissolve a little bit.

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So not a lot of detail then?

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In the sense of detail wise, they have no features, they've got no eyes.

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So more light and color without those kinds of details and features.

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Interesting.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, that's why.

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Some people say that when they come out of the body and they're visited by the first

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people, some people describe like they saw their grandparents or something like that.

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Personally, I didn't see any human reflections at all.

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It was more about souls and light beings.

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That's what I saw.

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But at 14, I didn't have any loved ones that's been passed away, what do you mean?

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So all my family that I knew were still around.

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Okay, so they were coming towards you, keep going.

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Yeah, so they were coming towards me.

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And so it was like a distance and I could feel them in the work coming towards me.

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It didn't take too long, we came quite close quite quickly.

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And when we get to a certain point, that's when we started to have a small dialogue with

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each other.

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And they're saying to me, you want to come away from this area, and it's like an agreement.

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But I knew that, I felt that I knew them and they knew me.

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There was a lot of love, a lot of unconditional love going off straight away, some recognition

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of each other.

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So it was like, you know, as if it was like a long lost path to Marinelleboro in some

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way.

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So not a connection, not a love going off there.

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But what kind of communication was there?

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It was done telepathically.

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It wasn't done by mouth and we don't have any mouth.

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And so it was done telepathically.

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And as in that I was thinking they could see it straight away and vice versa, we could

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communicate anybody by thoughts.

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Tell us about that communication now.

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What was the, I don't know if conversation is the right word for a telepathic communication

289
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but what was going back and forth and meanings between your minds and theirs?

290
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It wasn't a good question.

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It wasn't a feeling of entered more than it was to say that I know you, you know me, we

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are connected to each other.

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I think that was that kind of a connection going off.

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But it was a short conversation of you want to go away from here.

295
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And my initial thoughts were thinking like, well, I'm not horrified by what I'm seeing

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down there.

297
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It's not scaring me in any way.

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But there was an invite to me to go to the next real home.

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So my date bike, again, my curious self now is thinking, okay, yeah, I'll go with you.

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So I'm feeling like I felt safe to obviously then go with them as well.

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It didn't feel like an unsafe feeling.

302
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So that's something I will say.

303
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We then soon as I immediately said, yeah, let's go away.

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There we are.

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But then just by zoom, we might go through like a big like films like a portal or a safe

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past.

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Don't really be washed into the next realm really.

308
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And so that's where I go into the next place, which is home, really.

309
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All right, tell us about home.

310
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Okay, so I'll to describe in English language, again, lots of these things are very hard

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to describe in the start, and they're related to Earth at all.

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I personally didn't see anything like buildings, again, because I've got no arms, got no legs,

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no facial features.

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So I've got no need to walk on all ground and hold things.

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You don't need to do anything like that.

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So the ground area I would suggest is more like, you know, like a muffin mist or a what's

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it called when the rock stars are playing, you can see like a like a fog machine going

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back, fog machine going off.

319
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Yeah, it's like a book machine going on.

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So it's like that kind of a base, I guess.

321
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That's the nearest I would say to it.

322
00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:17,920
And again, maybe it's got a little bit more color to it than just that as well.

323
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The whole place felt like love as well.

324
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That's the hardest thing to describe to you as well.

325
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They felt like a whole place of love.

326
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I mean, I was going from a place of love, the soul as a metal soul, I was coming from

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a place of love.

328
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The whole everything was love.

329
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It was hard to describe.

330
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It really is the last I think, it really is odd to pinpoint.

331
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But so the ground, if we say the ground is especially, again, bottom part, then the top

332
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part is where you can actually fly as well.

333
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So I could basically manifest myself to either be on the ground, again, with my intention.

334
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I was intending to be with my guides and to follow them.

335
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So I didn't fly off or anything like that.

336
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:11,840
But I saw flying going off because I saw lots of souls playing some kind of game.

337
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And I felt like this game was like a chase or a ball type game.

338
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Well, the ball was, in my opinion, it was like a soul that could also manifest itself

339
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:23,920
in two different shapes.

340
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:27,640
I don't think we're just, we're not a solid anymore.

341
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Manifest ourselves differently.

342
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:34,360
So this ball was then changing maybe then to another soul.

343
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Maybe the soul then wants to like, hey, okay, well, I'm not going to be the ball now.

344
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I'm going to be part of this game instead.

345
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Maybe they could just take it in turns.

346
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I don't know.

347
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I'm just guessing.

348
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So yes, it could be in the air, you can be on the ground.

349
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And I'm on the ground with my guides and I'm moving from, it falls from right to left.

350
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So that's where now I'm heading, I'm heading left.

351
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And as I'm heading left, I can then see this being on the ground area type thing, where

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it's basically had a trauma.

353
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So basically my guides tell me, please do not interrupt this being.

354
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This being has some difficulties.

355
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,840
It's now having, reenergizing itself.

356
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And so basically it's getting like colors sparking off it as well.

357
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It's lots of colors going off it as well.

358
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:34,360
And it looked like it was in like some kind of a cocoon.

359
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It looked like it's built itself in the shape of a bubble wrap or a cocoon or something

360
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,120
like that.

361
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And so it was protected.

362
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But I think it did it itself.

363
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Like I said, it manifests itself in different ways.

364
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,520
I think it manifested like a bubble wrap type thing.

365
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,080
Something a 14 year old could relate to a little bit.

366
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:56,560
Yeah, maybe, maybe.

367
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But when it gets to the soul point, I don't feel like I'm a 14 year old anymore in this

368
00:23:03,060 --> 00:23:04,060
realm.

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00:23:04,060 --> 00:23:12,480
It felt like again, I was more of an inquisitive character who's full of love and yeah, and

370
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an old reflection as well.

371
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:20,780
It felt like when I came back in years later realizing it wasn't a near-death experience,

372
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it was a freedom of that body.

373
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It was nice to have nobody for a manager.

374
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,240
It felt like it was nice to have that body, nobody really.

375
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,420
So let me ask a question about that.

376
00:23:31,420 --> 00:23:34,120
You had had pain most of your life, right?

377
00:23:34,120 --> 00:23:35,520
You had lived in pain.

378
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:36,520
Yes.

379
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,240
And did you realize the fact that that was gone?

380
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:40,720
I assume it was gone.

381
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:41,720
Yes.

382
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:48,840
I think the soul, when I came out of my body, like I said, I had no wish to dive in there.

383
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,440
And I felt like the soul had a bit of freedom going on.

384
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,960
I felt free as a soul.

385
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:56,040
I felt free.

386
00:23:56,040 --> 00:24:02,840
And I felt like maybe that was the part of being in a part of it for the body.

387
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,360
I think it was like the curious nature.

388
00:24:06,360 --> 00:24:09,200
It felt like a baby would have.

389
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:10,920
The old, old life brand new.

390
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:15,320
It felt brand new to me to some extent, really.

391
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:16,320
Okay.

392
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:20,960
But yeah, definitely without a body, without that pain and the soul was trying to find

393
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,240
that feeling I'm being honest with you.

394
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:24,240
Yes.

395
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:29,040
Was there some kind of event that happened next or something you remember next in the

396
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:30,040
process?

397
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:31,040
Yeah.

398
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:37,520
So obviously I'm avoiding contacting this bubble raft soul.

399
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,400
And so I'm leaving that soul alone.

400
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,720
Then we're still then moving on a little bit past that.

401
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,800
And then I'm going to an area which is like a well.

402
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,920
I describe it like a well.

403
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,440
And I've heard other people talk about the life review.

404
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,680
And some people say that it looks like a TV or some people said it looks like a big movie

405
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:57,680
screen.

406
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,440
And it can be all those kinds of things.

407
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,200
It is a frame of reference.

408
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,660
My frame of reference is a well.

409
00:25:04,660 --> 00:25:11,920
So as I'm looking at this well, it feels like this well then is there in front of me.

410
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:16,720
But then as I'm looking at it, it dives right into my vision.

411
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:22,240
So I am actually the well and myself are like emerged together.

412
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,640
So the well is like part of me now.

413
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:29,160
And now I can be able to see everything.

414
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:34,920
Without this well, I literally feel that my powers of seeing past, present and future

415
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,320
was not possible as a soul.

416
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:42,400
I can only do it at this point of its life review.

417
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,880
When I'm having this well on me, I saw past.

418
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:54,440
So the past was about school and again in primary school and secondary school, I was

419
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,520
bullied a lot.

420
00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:04,600
So I could see from that perspective, the reasons why I also for one moment in time

421
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:10,880
became a bully as well because especially in primary school, I was very, very young.

422
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:11,880
I was very confused.

423
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,280
Why am I getting bullied?

424
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:15,780
All that kind of stuff.

425
00:26:15,780 --> 00:26:19,740
So I decided at that point, I'm going to become a bully.

426
00:26:19,740 --> 00:26:25,680
So maybe it was a bit of a power control or just to really feel like, okay, enough of

427
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:26,680
this pain.

428
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,000
I'm going to give some pain back.

429
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,220
So I bullied for a short period.

430
00:26:31,220 --> 00:26:33,520
So I found myself as horrible.

431
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,920
I know and that's what this is why I do.

432
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,200
I'm not happy about what I did.

433
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:43,200
But anyway, so I found younger targets that I could bully.

434
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:47,200
And so I found those and those easy targets.

435
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,040
So I bullied them for a short period.

436
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,880
And so during the life of you, I could see their pain.

437
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,840
I could see, oh, why is he doing that to me?

438
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:57,840
That is not nice.

439
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:03,200
But you know, the pain that does get it in from that as well, the anger, the pain, the

440
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:07,920
frustration, I could feel it all from their point of view.

441
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,400
Now it's not like a chastise thing.

442
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,600
It's not like a teacher to a bully.

443
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,080
You shouldn't have done that.

444
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:19,920
You know, start back and over telling off is more of an understanding of like, was that

445
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:20,920
a good idea?

446
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,920
No, it was, you know, it's almost like communication.

447
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,040
Say, really, that was the best thing to do.

448
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:30,760
So it's like a learning event rather than a telling off event.

449
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:35,960
So you were able to learn without feeling, did you feel guilt and shame or just learning?

450
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:42,280
Yeah, it's the pain of knowing that I'm hurting others from doing what I did.

451
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:49,000
So it's made me aware that if I'm hurting you, I'm just only hurting myself really.

452
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,360
So it's that instinct.

453
00:27:51,360 --> 00:27:59,560
And also, it wasn't more of a guilt feelings and that guilt in the human sense is, does

454
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,720
that exist in that realm?

455
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,880
If that makes sense to you.

456
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,280
Yeah, that's interesting.

457
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:09,360
And I've heard that from other people too, that they saw things that in this life they

458
00:28:09,360 --> 00:28:15,080
would say, well, I'm sure I'm not proud that I did that, but they didn't feel guilt.

459
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:20,720
So I'm sort of led to believe that guilt is a feeling that we have here on earth in this

460
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:21,720
body.

461
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:29,520
I think it's something, I think guilt is something that is taught to people and, you know, it

462
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:35,920
manifests by, it manifests by a parent or a teacher would do, because obviously they've

463
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,000
learnt it as well.

464
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:44,120
So we basically manifest and we basically become our parents.

465
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:49,960
So I could literally do the same as well, which is that.

466
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,800
We just come from our own family, we're my parents.

467
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,480
So I've learned things from my parents and vice versa.

468
00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:02,400
So in this life review, did you see anything previous to that or anything in the future?

469
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:03,520
Okay.

470
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,200
I saw past past as well.

471
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:07,200
Okay.

472
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:15,560
So we, the past before the child, the primary school stuff, I saw previous deaths as well,

473
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:21,240
which is, it's all quite linear by the way, if that's the right word for it.

474
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:25,240
But basically I'm able to see everything and everything in one go.

475
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,480
I'm like a download of a computer in this moment.

476
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,800
So everything was happening to me all at once, but I could take it.

477
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:36,080
My brain, I don't have a brain, I could absorb it.

478
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:42,600
So, but if I was to use my human side of things, I will go then from, yeah, I saw previous

479
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,040
deaths.

480
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:50,880
The previous deaths were like, almost like a whole lot of cards falling over and I could

481
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:56,840
literally, if I wanted to, maybe take a card and examine it a little bit longer.

482
00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:01,280
But I didn't, I think maybe I couldn't have done, but I didn't do that.

483
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:06,720
I saw one particular death and it not horrified me as a 14 year old now, but if you can like,

484
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:07,720
that was gross.

485
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:08,720
It was really horrible.

486
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,480
It was spikes.

487
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:17,840
I could literally see my body and then literally a wooden spike coming out of my chest and

488
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:18,880
that's where I'm dying.

489
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,640
And on this wooden spike, I'm thinking like, that was gross.

490
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:23,640
That was horrible.

491
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,880
And so that was one thing I remember quite clearly on that death.

492
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:32,880
There were sort of the ones as well, but I can't recall every single one that I saw.

493
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:38,680
But there's ones that I remember seeing one where I was having a fight in a like a village

494
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:45,520
type thing and one person was angry about something and we had a bit of a fight and

495
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:50,800
then I'm dying because he basically killed me in this fight.

496
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,560
So I can see that one as well.

497
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:56,680
That was, you know, the more horrific ones I remember.

498
00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:00,880
So I saw that and then I saw them present.

499
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,840
I could see my parents in the kitchen.

500
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,160
I could see my parents' thoughts as well.

501
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:10,680
And some people asked the questions, okay, so why are your parents in the kitchen?

502
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,720
Why not in our school with you?

503
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:19,960
Just because at 14, I was very, very mature and I would most likely have said to my parents,

504
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,480
I'll give you a call.

505
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:27,080
Once I'm out of the operation in the ward and I'm awake, then I'll give you a call.

506
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,840
That would be my process at that time.

507
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:35,120
So if people are wondering why my parents are in the kitchen, that's why I'm explaining

508
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:36,120
it.

509
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:40,560
So my parents' thoughts are, wonder how Paul's doing?

510
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,080
Will make some nice food for him.

511
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:49,360
And when we go over to him, you'll enjoy these chocolates and things like that and all that

512
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:50,360
kind of thing.

513
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,640
So they was thinking that about me.

514
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,720
Then I can go into the future as well.

515
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,320
I had 14 years of age.

516
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:01,440
I didn't realize it was any of that experience, first of all.

517
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:07,360
But then also I didn't understand the reasons why I've been showing ahead of me.

518
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,040
I saw Russia.

519
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:17,120
My wife is a Russian lady, but I didn't understand the whole process why I'm flying over Russia.

520
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:22,120
I could see a ceremony and again, I didn't know what it was exactly.

521
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:31,280
But on hindsight, or whatever it's called, I'm actually having my wedding day in Russia.

522
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:36,600
And like a big deja vu goes off thinking like, that was the moment that I saw my Russia.

523
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:41,040
I'm literally in this room waiting for Julia to arrive.

524
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:46,880
And that was decided, same feelings, nervous, I felt nervous, excited, loving, all these

525
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:47,880
kind of things.

526
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,480
But just wondering what's happening, what's going on?

527
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:55,160
And I was in Russia at that moment thinking, yeah, that's what I saw.

528
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,960
It's my native experience.

529
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,040
So it was that moment there.

530
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,640
I saw myself driving.

531
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,120
I thought, as a fortunate old man, I would rather drive.

532
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,560
Having spymethod, I thought I never drive.

533
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:13,240
And so that was the thing I saw, excited and happy.

534
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,040
And I passed the driving test when I was 17.

535
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,800
And I think it was that moment there.

536
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:27,200
I saw things like future death, where it looks like I'm in Russia, because I'm actually coming

537
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:28,200
out of my body.

538
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:33,200
I'm actually a very old person on a bed in a flat.

539
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:39,200
And I could see one lady next to me and another lady on the other side of the bed.

540
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:44,880
And my wife and my daughter, I'm thinking now on reflection, they could be my wife,

541
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:45,880
it could be my daughter.

542
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,760
And I'm very old.

543
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:55,160
And basically, I could see just naturally passing away from age and just old really,

544
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:56,160
yeah.

545
00:33:56,160 --> 00:34:01,560
And I'd actually see my body coming out and I'm having like a hidden experience or life

546
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,760
sort of coming out of my body.

547
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:08,720
And I can then see Russia or some kind of landscape that looks like a Russia.

548
00:34:08,720 --> 00:34:10,320
So yeah, that's one thing.

549
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:14,560
And maybe I will probably pass away in years to come in Russia.

550
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:15,600
Okay.

551
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,960
Was there much more before you came back to your body?

552
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:24,440
There was some kind of an education going off as well.

553
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:30,840
And I don't get it at all, because the human form, my brain, especially my IQ level, you

554
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,360
can't absorb it all.

555
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:37,200
But what I do remember was things like the spark of life.

556
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,560
I can remember seeing birth happening.

557
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:43,200
So the sperm hits in the egg, the spark of life.

558
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:51,520
And then I see that baby again born dead of one birth growing in the livers to me and

559
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,320
then becoming born.

560
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:59,560
Maybe it was myself as well, part of my own development and growth.

561
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:07,080
Then I saw things like burgers and fast food and the arteries clocking go and all that

562
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:08,080
kind of thing.

563
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:14,920
So I'm thinking, okay, I want to be interested in fast food on that basis.

564
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,120
So I saw that kind of thing going on.

565
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:24,280
I saw things like, I don't remember, there was like a big kind of education that went

566
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:25,280
off.

567
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:26,280
I saw a tree.

568
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:30,600
Something happened with the tree, I didn't know what this tree was about, but I saw energy

569
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,800
going in, energy going out.

570
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,360
And it looked like it's like a holographic tree.

571
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,800
I'll describe it exactly, but it looked holographic.

572
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,840
So everything made look holographic on that side of things.

573
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:49,840
So I saw this massive tree that had this energy out going out.

574
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,720
And I also saw dogs and cats for some reason.

575
00:35:53,720 --> 00:35:55,120
I don't know why.

576
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,000
I remember seeing cats purring.

577
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:04,760
When the cats purr, I could see then from my soul, I could see shapes, colors going

578
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:12,080
off and the owners there, the cats like purring and I could see this color, the shapes going

579
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:13,080
from its neck.

580
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:17,760
And it looked like it's like healing or showing love or both.

581
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:18,760
So I could see that.

582
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:24,720
And I could see then dogs being made because they want to protect, want to show unconditional

583
00:36:24,720 --> 00:36:31,120
love and almost like teaching, hey guys, this is how you do it.

584
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:36,880
And it felt like dogs are there just to show you, yeah, you need a lot of humans, you need

585
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,640
a lot of them and they got a long way to you.

586
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:44,480
So that's what I felt like from the pets and that side of things.

587
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,800
That was the other kind of download I felt like I had.

588
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,520
So interesting.

589
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:56,080
So at some point, was there a telepathic conversation with these three beings about, okay, Paul,

590
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,280
you're going to stay or you're going to go back?

591
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:00,280
Yes.

592
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:06,360
So whilst the light review was done, then it was like I was then next into this realm,

593
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:14,360
not realm, but area of this home where the three beings are still with me and the lights,

594
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:19,840
I seen everyone's, well, not everyone, but a lot of people talk about seeing the light

595
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,800
and I did start to see a light, but it asked me the question, Paul, that would be nice

596
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:29,200
on Paul, would you like to stay here or would you like to go back to being Paul down there?

597
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:36,920
At that moment, I felt naturally that if I was to stay here, I knew a soul that I'm going

598
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,120
to go back and do it all again.

599
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:43,840
And I knew I was going to be Paul again in a real wild time.

600
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:48,840
I felt like I was going to go back to being starting as a baby again, going back to school,

601
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:52,520
going back to being bullied, going back to have all operations.

602
00:37:52,520 --> 00:38:00,040
I thought, no, my soul naturally said, no, I've come this far, let's keep going.

603
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,600
So my soul decided to do that.

604
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:09,400
And as I'm saying all these thoughts and also saying I'm young and the guides are saying

605
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:15,280
to me, yes, you're young, almost like agreement with each other and they're saying, okay,

606
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,560
so you want to go back?

607
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,160
Yes, I want to go back.

608
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,800
As I'm agreeing then to go back, then that's it.

609
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:29,560
I can't remember, but I just wake up in the after the operation, I'm waking up with this

610
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:34,160
device on my leg and I'm actually basically full of beans.

611
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:40,160
I'm actually really like, I've had a lot of energy come to me somehow.

612
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:41,160
I don't know why.

613
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:46,000
Maybe it was a driving shock that gave me or it was just like the feeling of the love

614
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,160
was still in me from this event.

615
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,560
I don't know, but I was full of energy.

616
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,200
And did you talk to the doctor about what happened?

617
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:56,200
Yeah.

618
00:38:56,200 --> 00:39:07,160
But again, I'm 14, it was 1986, so near-death experiences wasn't around as far as I was

619
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:08,160
aware.

620
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:12,040
1986 maybe it happened, but it wasn't documented.

621
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:13,040
I've never heard of them.

622
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,040
I was a 14 year old lad.

623
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:21,160
I personally thought it was like a very, very vivid or very, very surreal dream.

624
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,040
I thought that's what I thought it was.

625
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:30,160
So I thought, okay, I'll tell my parents about it and my parents were like, yeah, he's a

626
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:34,240
bit of a nutter, this last hero, he's a bit crazy.

627
00:39:34,240 --> 00:39:41,520
So I thought, okay, well, let's go, I didn't go back on staff really until a lot later.

628
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:46,280
But my parents then was visited with Mr. Newton.

629
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:52,600
Mr. Newton came around to say hi and see how I was doing after the operation.

630
00:39:52,600 --> 00:40:00,960
And he had to tell my parents, unfortunately, Paul did every reaction to this muscle accident.

631
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:07,960
And we've put a big breast sticker on my folder and we had to resist the staining.

632
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:14,880
So that was me saying, okay, so yeah, I obviously did die and I have to be brought back to life

633
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:15,880
again.

634
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,120
At 14, I can't imagine trying to process that.

635
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,860
You mentioned that at first you thought it was just a dream.

636
00:40:21,860 --> 00:40:23,340
How do you know that it wasn't?

637
00:40:23,340 --> 00:40:25,280
How do you know it was more than just that?

638
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,720
Yeah, I mean, dreams don't stay with me.

639
00:40:27,720 --> 00:40:30,640
I don't remember any dreams.

640
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:31,640
I don't dream.

641
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:36,000
When I do dream, I can remember certain things.

642
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,080
It's always like surreal stuff.

643
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,800
But this one stayed with me.

644
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:46,880
Even now, if I close my eyes and try to remember how it looked and things like that, I can

645
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,360
still see it.

646
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:52,960
And the life review and all that stuff, I can still remember it quite clearly.

647
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:53,960
I just really shy.

648
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:58,560
I remember the whole download of, which my brain could take the whole download of all

649
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,960
that education, because there's more to it than that.

650
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:03,840
There was definitely more of that.

651
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,880
In comparison to a dream, it was more vivid.

652
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,080
It was more real than a dream was.

653
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:17,680
And the communication, the lessons, seeing my past, my present, my future, actually seeing

654
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,800
things like what's happened now.

655
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:26,920
I mean, just to go a little bit further on the things that happened in the future.

656
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:27,920
I used to live alone.

657
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:33,960
When I got to my 30s, I started to drink a bit too much alcohol.

658
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,520
I was a bit low, depressed.

659
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,360
I'm just going to stay single.

660
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:43,280
And so I was not happy.

661
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:50,840
So I remember saying, I'm sitting on the sofa and I've got a little drink in my hand and

662
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,320
thinking of something stupid.

663
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:57,200
And I'll be honest with you, Eric, it was one of my darkest times.

664
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:05,040
I thought, okay, there's like a stairs in the room, in the house.

665
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:06,880
It's far like an open-hand stairs.

666
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:11,440
So I could have got a Thai meal and just ended it.

667
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:12,440
Okay.

668
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,360
So I was in, I was depressed, all that happy.

669
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:24,520
And another moment of that thought process, there was also in my future that I could see,

670
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,320
was this feeling of life.

671
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:33,040
I could see someone left hanging themselves in the same scenario, stairs.

672
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:34,600
I was clapping.

673
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:40,560
So this thought process, this voice came to me saying, Paul, you remember the Nidhav experience?

674
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:41,560
Yes.

675
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:42,560
You remember what happened.

676
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:43,560
You want to do this?

677
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:44,560
You sure you want to go back again?

678
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:45,560
You want to do it all again?

679
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,560
No, I don't want me to go back again.

680
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,560
We'll keep going.

681
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,320
Just change and keep going.

682
00:42:51,320 --> 00:43:01,200
So I knew instantly, I finished my life now, I want to go back to school again, operations.

683
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:02,200
And so I thought, okay.

684
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:08,560
From that moment, then my alcohol intake started to reduce.

685
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:14,960
And then not long after that, I met up with Julia and got married.

686
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:15,960
Happy ending.

687
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:16,960
Yeah, very much so.

688
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:21,000
And yeah, it feels like we've got paths.

689
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:25,560
And if we got, I mean, I could have chosen the path of alcohol and doing that something

690
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:26,560
stupid.

691
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:27,560
Maybe I did it in my previous life.

692
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,360
Maybe I've had a few bad egos already.

693
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:37,040
Maybe before and alteration number five has had a, you know, and maybe my guides said,

694
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,760
okay, let's do a native experience this time.

695
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,760
Let's make sure you understood.

696
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,600
Don't do that again.

697
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,640
You know, so maybe that's why I have it.

698
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,000
That's an interesting thought.

699
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,560
I don't know the answer to that.

700
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:56,080
Do you feel like you came back with any specific message, any specific, you know, here's the

701
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,880
biggest takeaway from this?

702
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:05,520
The biggest takeaway from my end of it is that there was three key words that came through

703
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:10,440
for me and it was the three words I'll always say to people that it's all about love.

704
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,360
It's all about the learning and it's all about the connection.

705
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:19,040
So love is basically, obviously love each other and no matter what and really is to

706
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:20,960
get rid of our labels.

707
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:25,880
And that's what, that's why I do a thing called Yellow Planet.

708
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:29,680
It's a channel on YouTube and it shoots and all that kind of thing.

709
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,280
But we do interviews as well.

710
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:35,680
You can do an interview with yourself, the online ones too Eric as well, just to give

711
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:39,480
you that if you wanted to do that, that'll help you.

712
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:44,240
And we interview guests about their experiences and their consciousness and all that kind

713
00:44:44,240 --> 00:44:45,240
of thing.

714
00:44:45,240 --> 00:44:51,080
So yeah, love is about really to love each other, throw away the labels and just connect

715
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:52,520
with each other.

716
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:56,120
Learning is about we're going to learn from each other.

717
00:44:56,120 --> 00:45:01,600
And if we learn from our mistakes and then just come back to people, that's about the

718
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:06,840
learning and then unity and connection is really about again, throw away the labels

719
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:11,200
and let's get together rather than dividing each other.

720
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:12,200
I like it.

721
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:13,460
That's a nice message.

722
00:45:13,460 --> 00:45:18,400
One of the things that concerns me often when I, especially when I'm talking to people that

723
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:25,920
had an NDE back in the era that you did, 70s, 80s, that kind of thing, it was very misunderstood.

724
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,560
People thought you were crazy.

725
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,000
Do you feel like it's gotten a lot better now?

726
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,840
It's more understood, more accepted that this is a real thing.

727
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:36,400
Yeah, I think so.

728
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:44,120
And I generally feel that people are having near-death experiences and I've been nudged.

729
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:45,480
I don't like talking about it.

730
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:49,240
I know it sounds horrible to say, I don't like talking about this stuff Eric.

731
00:45:49,240 --> 00:45:50,240
I really don't.

732
00:45:50,240 --> 00:45:51,240
I mean, I'm not.

733
00:45:51,240 --> 00:45:52,920
My one thing is that I like to listen.

734
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:54,720
I don't like to talk.

735
00:45:54,720 --> 00:45:57,640
It's just one of those things about me.

736
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:01,840
But something has pushed me and it says, boy, you need to figure your story out.

737
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:07,320
The reason why I think is I think all of us have to do these things.

738
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:11,040
Not for money, not for gain, it's to change the world.

739
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:18,080
And if people are going to watch and listen to these interviews, then people might think,

740
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,400
actually, yeah, let's make a change.

741
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:24,960
So if someone hears my story and thinking like, yeah, the love, learning, connection,

742
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:25,960
fantastic.

743
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,760
If it's helped them a little bit on that way, then amazing.

744
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:30,760
We can change the world.

745
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,480
We just need to make this world a lot more better because this world is, I don't want

746
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,560
to go too political, but it is corrupt.

747
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,040
And I think we really want to, you know, become better than this.

748
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:41,600
You know, we don't need to fight.

749
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,640
We don't need to do war.

750
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,480
You're absolutely right on all of that.

751
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:51,040
On the love part, the love that you felt there, was it similar to the love you feel here?

752
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:52,040
Unconditional love.

753
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:58,040
I mean, with my family and friends, yeah, it's not conditional.

754
00:46:58,040 --> 00:46:59,040
It isn't conditional.

755
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,120
You know, we love each other unconditionally.

756
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,320
In that realm, it's unconditional.

757
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,760
But in certain aspects in the world, yeah, it's conditional love.

758
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,440
I don't need love here.

759
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,160
And that's not a healthy love.

760
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,160
That's not the right way to go.

761
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:19,760
But unconditional love, you know, no matter what you do, I still love you.

762
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:20,960
And that's the way it is there.

763
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,680
That's what you felt there is what you're saying.

764
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:24,680
Yeah.

765
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:25,680
Yeah.

766
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:31,280
I mean, even if I caused the pain to the children that I bullied in school, they still love

767
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:32,280
me.

768
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,480
I mean, it was a stupid maneuver.

769
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:36,600
It was not the best thing to say.

770
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,320
I realized that.

771
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:39,320
I heard you.

772
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,000
I heard it from myself.

773
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:45,320
Another thing that maybe you can explain to me, a lot of the people that I interview,

774
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:52,200
they talk about feeling one with everybody, not only with God, but with all the people,

775
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:53,200
all the beings.

776
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,020
And you're using the word connection.

777
00:47:56,020 --> 00:48:00,240
What did you learn there that makes connection make have a deeper meaning here?

778
00:48:00,240 --> 00:48:05,880
Yeah, I think we are all tapping into the one consciousness.

779
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:10,920
Some people try to investigate where is consciousness, what is consciousness, how do we call it,

780
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:11,920
conscious.

781
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,720
And I do believe it's some kind of a Wi-Fi thing.

782
00:48:15,720 --> 00:48:22,880
We can't see it, but I feel that we are not necessarily born with consciousness.

783
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:30,800
We are tapping into like a Wi-Fi around maybe the earth and we become conscious that way.

784
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,600
So we're basically sharing the one consciousness.

785
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:42,400
Again, if I heard you, I'm writing myself, so we are basically one of the same.

786
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:48,440
So no matter, you could be black, you could be male, female, it doesn't matter.

787
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:54,280
We're basically a soul being in a body, having a human experience.

788
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:55,400
That's all we are.

789
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,460
Having a human experience, that's a great way to put it.

790
00:48:58,460 --> 00:49:05,240
So Paul, you've lived in a body your whole life that's had pain and not, I hate to use

791
00:49:05,240 --> 00:49:13,280
the word normal, but not, I don't even want to say not as good as other people's bodies.

792
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:18,040
That just sounds terrible because it's your body and it's yours and it's great.

793
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:23,580
But there have been some disadvantages with it too and some pain that's come with it.

794
00:49:23,580 --> 00:49:29,000
Do you feel like there was a point before you came here that you chose this body?

795
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:34,120
You just mentioned about having a human experience here.

796
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:35,600
Relate those two things.

797
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,600
Okay, yeah.

798
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:45,720
I do feel that I chose this body and I feel like I've had many different types of avatars

799
00:49:45,720 --> 00:49:46,720
in my life.

800
00:49:46,720 --> 00:49:51,960
I feel like maybe I've had the soul of this type, person dying, all of this wouldn't spike,

801
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:56,080
it looked like I was in Greek, Roman time.

802
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,240
It looked like maybe I was a gladiator or something.

803
00:49:59,240 --> 00:50:04,040
I don't know what it was really, but I feel like I've had many different types of lives.

804
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:08,800
I think I've been male, I've been female.

805
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:13,640
I think I've been basically choosing all types of characters.

806
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:20,440
I feel like I'm an old soul now, more older, through many experiences.

807
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:26,080
I feel like I needed to get to have this particular life and I think I chose this body.

808
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:30,720
I don't want to upset people who have got disabilities thinking, well, I didn't ask

809
00:50:30,720 --> 00:50:32,160
to be here and all this kind of thing.

810
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:33,640
I don't want them to feel that way.

811
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:35,640
Hopefully they don't feel that way.

812
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:44,400
But I feel like I chose to be here and I chose to be having this kind of body experience.

813
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,640
What I feel like I've learned from this body experience, I feel like I've learned a lot

814
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:54,120
about most, I've learned a lot about patience and a lot about determination.

815
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:58,560
So that's where I feel like I've learned a lot more about in this particular match,

816
00:50:58,560 --> 00:50:59,560
so to say.

817
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:00,560
So it was worth it.

818
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:01,560
Worth it, definitely.

819
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,240
What do you see long-term?

820
00:51:03,240 --> 00:51:11,400
I mean, you actually saw in this life review a head of an old person passing away in Russia.

821
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:15,200
What do you think happens beyond that?

822
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:23,040
Yeah, I feel like this world is still going to be here.

823
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:24,480
I don't think it's going to blow up.

824
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:30,480
I mean, there's lots of news saying about the Kyrgyz war, this and that.

825
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:31,720
I think not.

826
00:51:31,720 --> 00:51:38,480
I feel like, you know, these, I think sometimes our friends up there, you have the bows and

827
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:46,560
panings, I think if they see the boys with the toys with these big fire guns and bullets

828
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,800
and stuff like this, then they will stop this.

829
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,480
They'll never stop that in my opinion.

830
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:58,320
And anyway, I think that in the future that I will, yeah, step in and grow old and I will

831
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:04,520
be with my wife, I'll work with my daughter and yeah, it'll be in Russia or some kind

832
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:09,160
of Russian country, maybe like a, I don't know, Bulgaria or something like that.

833
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,960
I don't know, but it'll look like a Russia.

834
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:19,360
But my future, I feel like I'm here to keep spreading these words.

835
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:23,160
I will continue to do these interviews just to help people.

836
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:28,120
And I hope that we will then push the boundaries a little bit more of why we're here, what

837
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:31,920
we're here to do and to get people more loving with each other.

838
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:36,680
Because if we all became like a domino effect for each other, you know, I push one domino,

839
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:40,880
a bit more towards them like, yeah, okay, what was the answer?

840
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:41,880
Great.

841
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:42,880
That's what it's all about.

842
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:46,920
So I'll just push one more domino of the like that.

843
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,120
And if people want to find more of your content, where do they go online?

844
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:51,120
Okay.

845
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:58,000
So I've got a channel that is called Unite, it's not United, it's United Planet, but someone

846
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:02,040
else took that title, out there, they.

847
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:08,840
So I chose Unite Planet instead, which it feels like it's more like a current word,

848
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,040
Unite Planet type thing.

849
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:17,440
So it's on YouTube and it's also on BitChute, can be on there.

850
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:21,760
Also on Facebook, we have a group page on there.

851
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,680
Again, it's still called Unite Planet.

852
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:29,280
Basically it's like a circle, like a planet shape.

853
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:34,200
It's got orange, blue, purple kind of colors going off.

854
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:38,920
So it's like, really nice colors, hopefully.

855
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:40,840
And yeah, so that's what it's about.

856
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,460
So we're on there.

857
00:53:43,460 --> 00:53:49,320
Another thing I do is I've written a book and it's called Walk Oblived, Feet on the

858
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:50,320
Ground.

859
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:55,920
It's basically on Amazon, I think it's on Kindle as well.

860
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,800
So if people want to read my book, you're welcome to.

861
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:06,660
What it was, it was in my forties, I decided to write my story, really.

862
00:54:06,660 --> 00:54:14,880
So it includes my native experience, it includes my issues with Spadgiffa, but also a lot of

863
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:15,880
humor.

864
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:21,160
I do have a good humor and so I tried to use a lot of email in my book and people have

865
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:26,840
said to me, they read the book and told me how much they've enjoyed it, how much it's

866
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:27,840
helped them.

867
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:33,040
I've had people reviewing my book and writing it in Amazon saying how much they've helped

868
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:34,040
as well.

869
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:38,720
So for that I feel like I've done something good that way as well.

870
00:54:38,720 --> 00:54:41,240
So you can contact me on Facebook.

871
00:54:41,240 --> 00:54:45,080
I think it's Paul Northridge, author, so you can contact me that way as well.

872
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:48,320
We'll put some links in the show notes to all this and I'll bet your book is fun, I

873
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,200
haven't read it yet.

874
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:55,040
Last question, on a scale of one to 10, how afraid of death are you?

875
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:56,040
Zero.

876
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:59,520
I'm not afraid at all, I'm afraid.

877
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,960
And it's nothing good.

878
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:09,680
I mean, when I came out of my body, I was in pain a little bit, not to the point where,

879
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,240
oh gosh, I'm about to die.

880
00:55:12,240 --> 00:55:19,280
And I felt like as soon as I got to the point of death, then I'm literally unplugged straight

881
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:20,280
away.

882
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,600
So it's not a painful maneuver, if you understand me.

883
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:27,720
You're basically putting yourself straight away as soon as you're about to die, you're

884
00:55:27,720 --> 00:55:31,680
unplugged straight away and then you're then seen black.

885
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,000
That's the worst thing I remember.

886
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,640
So death is not really, and it's not the end.

887
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,240
You keep coming back and you will keep coming back.

888
00:55:40,240 --> 00:55:45,600
Let me go back to be a male, a female, a black person, white person, you'll have all these

889
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,640
more experiences ahead of yourselves.

890
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:51,360
And people ask me the question, so why keep coming back here?

891
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,520
And it's a horrible place to visit.

892
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:57,880
And well, I hope that maybe my story's helped a little bit.

893
00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:59,120
I think your story has.

894
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:03,240
I think there's one person out there, that's all that matters, if there's one person out

895
00:56:03,240 --> 00:56:05,720
there that this helps and I think it has.

896
00:56:05,720 --> 00:56:06,720
Okay, thank you.

897
00:56:06,720 --> 00:56:07,720
Thank you very much.

898
00:56:07,720 --> 00:56:08,720
All right.

899
00:56:08,720 --> 00:56:09,720
Anyway, thanks for being with us today.

900
00:56:09,720 --> 00:56:10,720
Appreciate it.

901
00:56:10,720 --> 00:56:11,720
I appreciate it.

902
00:56:11,720 --> 00:56:12,720
Thanks, Eric.

903
00:56:12,720 --> 00:56:13,720
Thanks for your time today.

904
00:56:13,720 --> 00:56:14,720
I really appreciate it.

905
00:56:14,720 --> 00:56:15,720
Thank you.

906
00:56:15,720 --> 00:56:21,680
If you have had a round trip death experience, we would love to hear about it.

907
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:25,360
Send an email to eric at roundtripdeath.com.

908
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:29,680
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909
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:34,900
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910
00:56:34,900 --> 00:56:36,680
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911
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:41,440
Until next time, I wish you everything good that you're looking for in this life and the

912
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