One of life's greatest questions is what happens to us after we die?
Is death the end or a new beginning?
Welcome to the Round Trip Death Podcast.
In this show, we listen to firsthand accounts of people who have gone beyond the veil and
return to talk about it.
So happy to have on the show with us today, Jennifer Morris.
Jennifer, how are you?
Hi, I'm doing great.
It's good to be here with you.
Jennifer, I hear you're in some cold weather.
Yes, it is very cold where I am.
I'm in Illinois.
You know, typical end of December, January coldness that we deal with.
So yeah, I think a lot of us are dealing with the same situation.
So for our listeners in the Southern Hemisphere, and I know we have quite a few, they're enjoying
summer down there and well, you'll get your turn.
Anyway, we are grateful for the snow and everything around here.
Hey, if you wouldn't mind, I would love our listeners to get to know you just a little
bit before we get started talking about your near death experience.
Tell us a little bit about you.
Sure.
I am a wife, a mother.
I have one amazing daughter and her and our son in law.
Before all my spinal issues and surgery happened, I worked in law enforcement and I was a dispatcher
and then a clerk at two different police departments I worked at at the same time.
I absolutely loved my job, but then all the severe spinal issues started occurring and
I had to quit and I'm now disabled.
So I remain positive.
I take the good from the bad and I try to learn from all my experiences.
I like to look inward at myself and evaluate how I am being perceived by others.
Well, let's just start off with a great big smile today.
How about that?
That's great.
All right.
Your near death experience, I know, is still pretty fresh to you.
You've really not talked publicly about it very much yet.
Take us back to January of 2022, so just under a year from when we're recording this right
now and tell us what was going on with you physically.
I was in my eighth spinal surgery.
I've had a neurostimulator surgery, one that went severely wrong and I now have disabilities
from, but this was my second fusion.
When I went to the hospital, we had an agreement because the hospital was overcrowded that
I would go home that day and the surgery went well.
Everything was fine.
We came home and all of a sudden about four hours later, my daughter checked on me and
I wasn't acting right.
I couldn't speak.
Jumping up and down, she said I was screaming, but I don't remember any of that.
So what was it that was going on?
I was taken to the hospital and thank God that I had an emergency room physician that
was so smart and realized that I had sepsis.
My kidneys shut down, my lungs closed and filled with fluid.
I had encephalopathy, which I think is a fancy word for lack of oxygen and brain swelling.
Took them over an hour to try to stabilize me, about an hour and 15 minutes.
Both my ER physician and I, because I was lucky enough to be able to talk to him about
this, we both agree that my near death experience most likely occurred when I was in the emergency
room.
So what happened?
I was unconscious and I was unconscious for two and a half days.
All of a sudden I got into consciousness and I was floating in this vast open area.
It was grayish white with a bright white light off in the distance.
I had 10 family members next to me and there were two larger golden orbs.
They were just radiating energy.
And below me was pitch black and I could see silhouettes of people rising through it.
So I'm perceiving this as a good and a bad experience.
I'm trying to absorb that.
There was a whole lot there in those few sentences.
Let's come back into, I want to talk more about your family members you saw.
At first, so you looked down and saw people that were you would say in kind of a hell
kind of place?
Yes.
That, I was told there's many different levels that when we pass away, really kind of based
on how we are emotionally and treating people and what's in our heart and what we do good
for mankind.
And just other reasons we could end up at many different levels.
And I perceived this as like I said, good and bad, evil and good.
And I had the intense feeling that this was a place for people that committed very bad
sins and they were kind of stuck in this level.
Not to say that we can't move on from the level, but I would say that this is the first
place that when they passed away, they're having to deal with despair and kind of torture.
And it's dark, it's pitch black and they're just in darkness.
So it's not the fire and brimstone that we hear about?
No, everything was telepathic and I didn't even have my eyes open and I could see myself
floating in this vast open space and it was extremely peaceful.
It was so serene and all the pain that I've had, it was completely gone.
And I was so comforted and I felt so much love and I knew I could die.
I thought of my family and I knew they could lose me, but then I also was comforted by
the thought that they will be watched over if I was to go.
I was initially told that I was awaiting a decision.
I was told that they want us to be loving and caring and be one with everybody.
Let me ask you, who was telling you this?
These very large golden orbs that were in front of me.
And when I looked off into the bright white light, I could also see golden orbs going
through it, a lot of golden orbs.
And these orbs were giving me all this information.
They told me that they had a message and it's taken me a year to even get this message
out publicly.
It's been very difficult.
I've had a very rough year.
I was reading about NDEs and it said that if you have a NDE with darkness, that usually
after you go through a period of shock, then you'll go into a period of deep depression.
And that's exactly what happened to me.
But they gave me a message that if we do not change from now until possibly 30 years in
the future, that they will make the decision to reset the world, to reset and change humanity.
And the vision they gave me was from the Pacific Ocean straight across through the Gulf.
And this event would only be a God created event.
I know the San Andreas Fault is there.
And when this event occurs, a vast cavernous opening will happen from the ocean and the
Pacific all the way through to the Gulf.
And it's going to start a cataclysm of water and land falling away.
And the San Andreas Fault in that part of California will all be gone.
They were reiterating to me that if this was to occur, and it's very possible that how
the ice caps are melting, if the global warming issue with the ice melting and this event
opening up in the Pacific Ocean, if that was to occur at the same time, then it's definitely
going to be a reset.
There's no bowing back.
There's no humanity.
So yeah, they want us to change.
Okay.
So by us, everybody in this country and the whole world, who needs to change?
The whole world.
They are extremely distraught about the state of the world, about war, about everybody treating
each other badly.
Even our thoughts are, you know, if we're thinking of sinful things, they just want
us to love each other and be caring and kind and lending.
And through this experience, I'm having a spiritual awakening.
I have always gone back and forth through religion and I never absorbed it.
The first time I went to church after the NDE, everything that was spoken that day in
scripture I knew.
It's not like before, I'm just listening to it and you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a
story, but no, now I feel it within me.
There are scriptures that are very accurate.
I found a passage in Matthew that fits this very well.
I don't know if you'd like me to speak of it, but yeah, go ahead and read it to us.
It's Matthew 712 and it says, but love your enemies and do good and lend, expecting nothing
in return and reward will be great.
So whatever you wish that others would do to you, also do to them.
Love is patient, kind, and it's not arrogant and rude.
And I think this fits very well to what they were trying to explain to me.
Okay, I just want to make sure I've got this all clear.
So they that were talking to you were these two giant golden orbs.
Yes.
Right?
Yes.
And they gave you a message to tell the world here, which is we need to shape up, we need
to be better people.
Right.
And if we don't, this cataclysmic event is going to happen.
But if we do, it won't happen.
Right.
I got all that right.
Okay.
This is really fascinating because most of the NDEs, this doesn't happen.
They're just, they have a very personal experience and have a message maybe for the world, but
not something that's more, I hate to use this term maybe, but more prophetic as far as shape
up or else.
So I find it very interesting.
Why do you think you were given this message versus somebody else?
Or maybe somebody else was?
I think that I've always had guardian angels.
I've always had people praying for me.
I really feel that my family then has crossed over.
They've really been, I don't know if you want to say speaking to these energies or entities
that they want me to be saved, especially my father.
And I really feel like, you know, somebody's working for me.
And I did have also a personal message for myself.
They did finally come back and tell me that I need to work on myself and then I also need
to be here for my daughter.
You know, there's a lot of personal issues that we're dealing with.
I think as far as me working on myself, I believe it's the message to get my words right,
to get my scripture right, and so I can spread this message clearly.
And that's what I've been doing.
I've been working, reading through scriptures, reading through the Bible.
But recently I have had puzzle pieces fit together.
I recalled some things that happened to me, not in NDE, but a few years back.
They're kind of, I guess you could say they're kind of out there as something that would
happen.
But I had an experience and it's a weird place for this to happen, but I had an experience
at night going down the tollway to Chicago and all of a sudden this unbelievable bright
copper gold light just flashed in front of me and my husband didn't see this, but I seen
it and I had to lift my arm up and cover my eyes because it was so bright.
But within that light was a tablet and it was filled with Roman numerals.
And in that instant I was able to get the first Roman numerals and it was XIVXIVIIXI.
And I looked that up according to the Bible and it says it has to do with the number 14.
And I've been trying to read the scriptures and see if any of those fit to my experience
because I'm starting to think that these things that I've seen in the past are all related.
Last December I was letting my dogs out and I had the door open and the whole family had
closed really bad, but I was just looking up at the sky and all of a sudden this big
orb had flashing colors going throughout it.
It was red and green and blue and it was very close to my house and it was very low and
I have it on video and I think it was connected to me.
And again I had that magnetic pull feeling and I get that in my chest and it just feels
like I'm being pulled towards something.
I'm starting to think that these things are connected.
I don't see any other reason why I would have these experiences.
What does the video look like that you took?
It's actually on my husband's page.
I've been having trouble getting it out of my old Facebook page, but it's December 21,
2021 on my husband Steve Morris' Facebook page.
And it's the sky, it's all black, it's sort of clear.
You can see a few stars, but you can clearly see this orb moving and changing color and
it was there.
And I know they say if you witness something, just video it as long as you can, but I couldn't
because I was so sick with COVID and I have about, I don't know, maybe five minutes of
it.
Okay.
We'll try to work out you and I getting this video and we'll post it in our social media
for people to.
Well, that's a lot to take in.
Do you have any impression now that you've had a little time to think about it?
Back to your NDE when you saw these two big orbs, do you think they represented like God
or a person or an angel or what's your feeling on it?
Yes.
I know that people have had NDE's and they've seen Mary, they've seen Jesus, they've seen
God and heaven and my experience is teaching me that all of those words, spirit, God, Jesus,
those are like labels of comfort, you know, us as humans so we can understand.
But my NDE was completely energy-based.
The orbs of the golden orbs were complete radiating energy.
Even my family members, they were half orb and half as I remember them.
And I think too that even God, what we're calling God is, he's a higher power.
He's like the one that runs the show and these golden orbs, which there's many, many golden
orbs, they are able to assist people in transition.
Tell me about the 10 family members that you saw.
Do you know who they were by name?
I know all of them.
I have a painting that I did.
So were these grandparents?
Were these people that you knew?
Yes.
You know, when my father passed away, I was devastated.
I'm a daddy's girl, spoiled as everybody called me, but I was truly devastated.
And I ever, I thought that if I ever see my father, I would just be hysterical, crying.
And you know, all these 10 family members were there and it went from my father to my
godmother to my godfather, my dad's two brothers and three more of my dad's aunts.
And my dad's mother had 10 sisters and one brother.
So I could see them all very clearly, what they looked like.
But what was amazing is that the bottom half of them was energy, it was orb.
So it was pretty profound.
Were these people that have all passed away?
Yes, they are.
I have always felt like my grandmother has been my guardian angel since I was little.
And was that confirmed during this experience?
Well, I got the feeling that, you know, my father, my godmother and my grandmother are
these three that are really looking out for me.
Or I felt hold to them the most.
Okay.
You know, I can see why you haven't talked about this much because right here, this is
a safe space.
I have no reason not to believe anything that you're saying.
Some people when you tell them about a cataclysmic event that may happen, are going to think
you're one of those, you know, wackos that's going to get a big following and, you know,
build a camp someplace or something.
Yeah.
And now that I've gone through this experience and I'm trying to learn how to speak more
clearly about the event, I'm coming into contact with some people that, you know, outright
said that there's no way I made it up.
I'm looking for attention, which is kind of funny to me because I'm never the type of
person that likes attention on me.
So it has been difficult.
Did you tell somebody, your minister, pastor, whatever, at church about this?
And how did that person respond?
Yes.
When I was in the hospital, I spoke to the pastor.
One other thing that happened to me when I came home and I was having those nightmares,
I had a shadow figure and a girl attached to me from the hospital.
And a lot of people don't believe in paranormal either, but my entire life I've had some type
of paranormal experience.
But when I came home from the hospital, this shadow figure was kind of plaguing me for
a few days.
And I did talk to my pastor about it.
And even, you know, speaking with her, she agreed with everything I said.
And she believed that these things with shadow figures and spirits, you know, she was in
agreement with me about everything that I said.
And she was very, very comforting.
That must have been very reassuring.
Yes.
I felt so good after I talked to her.
You know, when I'm getting, I feel like I'm getting messages everywhere now.
And there'll be certain things like in a book or, you know, something that's said on TV.
And I feel like it's a direct message that these orbs are sending to me.
I've even spoke with my primary physician about this.
And he told me that him and some other of his friends that are doctors that they all
believe when the soul separates from the body and you can see yourself, they believe that
that is actually true, that you have passed on to another realm.
And we talked about my whole NDE for an hour.
And he as well was very comforting.
And every time I go to see my doctor, he calls me Miracle Girl now.
And actually, all the doctors in the hospital, when they see me, they said I was a miracle.
And they, you know, I didn't have all the oxygen back to my brain.
And they would come in and they would look at me and they'd walk around the bed and they'd
say, well, you're a miracle.
You shouldn't be here.
We don't know why you're here.
And I didn't really absorb it because of the lack of oxygen.
It took me some time to get all my thoughts back together and to realize the NDE happened.
All right.
We'll call you Miracle from here on out.
Thanks.
No problem.
Okay.
Let's come back to what you were talking about.
So some people are giving you a hard time when you tell them about what happened or
they read about what happened.
Yeah, I actually had a few people, you know, put words in my mouth and telling me that
I'm scared and, you know, that they don't know what you're talking about.
They don't know me.
They don't know my life.
They don't know my NDE.
And you know, I try to politely give replies back as gently as I can and, you know, try
to explain to them.
You know, this is my NDE and I'm just sharing it and sharing what I was told to share.
So I can't help those people.
It's not up to me.
What else did you see or hear or experience during the NDE?
I did see myself in the emergency room with a bunch of lines, you know.
I had stuff in my nose and in my arms and the oxygen.
And I could see the most of the emergency room.
So you saw what was happening with your body.
Yes.
Did you also see more in this spirit world?
You mentioned the light, for example.
Yes.
I don't think, you know, they told me I was awaiting that decision, but that white light
was so far off in the distance that I honestly, you know, I knew I could die and it really
wasn't my decision.
But you know, I wasn't afraid and I really didn't think or feel that I would have to
stay or I would go to the white light.
I really was just, you know, being given information and, you know, information to better my life.
Based on the message that you were asked or told to give to us, let's get just a little
more specific for a second and then we'll wrap up here.
What are some of the things that each of us can be doing better?
I won't run into the right words, but we need to encourage each other.
We need to deal with situations without violence.
We need to lend a helping hand if somebody needs it.
We shouldn't be asking of things in return.
We really need to become one.
And this world is supposed to be about love and kindness and everybody getting along in
any situation.
So I believe this is what they're telling me.
You know, they really want us to change.
And there's a lot of scripture that it's right there in front of us and we're not absorbing
it.
You know, there's a lot of bad news out there on the 10 o'clock news.
And now you're telling us some horrible cataclysmic event may happen.
I know you have a message of hope to tell us what that is.
I do feel that we can turn ourselves around.
I mean, we are given such beauty in this world and we really do have a paradise here on earth.
We just have to see it.
You know, we really shouldn't.
I know everybody asks the question, what happens after we die?
And I don't think for the vast majority of people that we really have to worry.
And I know that everybody that has lost a loved one, that their family members are watching
over them and they will be there for them when it's their turn to cross over.
On the scale of one to 10, how afraid of death are you?
Zero.
I'm not at all.
I continually think about that peaceful, loving feeling.
There's just no worries.
There's no pain.
There's just serenity.
And it's a feeling that you just cannot compare to anything we have here on earth.
I keep wanting to get back into that feeling, but I can't seem to do it here on earth.
All right.
Thank you for that message and thanks for being on with us today.
Thank you very much.
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