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One of life's greatest questions is what happens to us after we die?

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Is death the end or a new beginning?

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Welcome to the Round Trip Death Podcast.

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In this show, we listen to firsthand accounts of people who have gone beyond the veil and

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return to talk about it.

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So happy to have on the show with us today, Jennifer Morris.

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Jennifer, how are you?

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Hi, I'm doing great.

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It's good to be here with you.

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Jennifer, I hear you're in some cold weather.

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Yes, it is very cold where I am.

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I'm in Illinois.

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You know, typical end of December, January coldness that we deal with.

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So yeah, I think a lot of us are dealing with the same situation.

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So for our listeners in the Southern Hemisphere, and I know we have quite a few, they're enjoying

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summer down there and well, you'll get your turn.

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Anyway, we are grateful for the snow and everything around here.

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Hey, if you wouldn't mind, I would love our listeners to get to know you just a little

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bit before we get started talking about your near death experience.

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Tell us a little bit about you.

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Sure.

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I am a wife, a mother.

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I have one amazing daughter and her and our son in law.

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Before all my spinal issues and surgery happened, I worked in law enforcement and I was a dispatcher

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and then a clerk at two different police departments I worked at at the same time.

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I absolutely loved my job, but then all the severe spinal issues started occurring and

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I had to quit and I'm now disabled.

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So I remain positive.

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I take the good from the bad and I try to learn from all my experiences.

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I like to look inward at myself and evaluate how I am being perceived by others.

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Well, let's just start off with a great big smile today.

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How about that?

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That's great.

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All right.

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Your near death experience, I know, is still pretty fresh to you.

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You've really not talked publicly about it very much yet.

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Take us back to January of 2022, so just under a year from when we're recording this right

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now and tell us what was going on with you physically.

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I was in my eighth spinal surgery.

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I've had a neurostimulator surgery, one that went severely wrong and I now have disabilities

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from, but this was my second fusion.

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When I went to the hospital, we had an agreement because the hospital was overcrowded that

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I would go home that day and the surgery went well.

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Everything was fine.

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We came home and all of a sudden about four hours later, my daughter checked on me and

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I wasn't acting right.

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I couldn't speak.

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Jumping up and down, she said I was screaming, but I don't remember any of that.

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So what was it that was going on?

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I was taken to the hospital and thank God that I had an emergency room physician that

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was so smart and realized that I had sepsis.

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My kidneys shut down, my lungs closed and filled with fluid.

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I had encephalopathy, which I think is a fancy word for lack of oxygen and brain swelling.

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Took them over an hour to try to stabilize me, about an hour and 15 minutes.

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Both my ER physician and I, because I was lucky enough to be able to talk to him about

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this, we both agree that my near death experience most likely occurred when I was in the emergency

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room.

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So what happened?

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I was unconscious and I was unconscious for two and a half days.

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All of a sudden I got into consciousness and I was floating in this vast open area.

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It was grayish white with a bright white light off in the distance.

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I had 10 family members next to me and there were two larger golden orbs.

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They were just radiating energy.

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And below me was pitch black and I could see silhouettes of people rising through it.

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So I'm perceiving this as a good and a bad experience.

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I'm trying to absorb that.

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There was a whole lot there in those few sentences.

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Let's come back into, I want to talk more about your family members you saw.

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At first, so you looked down and saw people that were you would say in kind of a hell

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kind of place?

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Yes.

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That, I was told there's many different levels that when we pass away, really kind of based

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on how we are emotionally and treating people and what's in our heart and what we do good

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for mankind.

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And just other reasons we could end up at many different levels.

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And I perceived this as like I said, good and bad, evil and good.

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And I had the intense feeling that this was a place for people that committed very bad

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sins and they were kind of stuck in this level.

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Not to say that we can't move on from the level, but I would say that this is the first

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place that when they passed away, they're having to deal with despair and kind of torture.

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And it's dark, it's pitch black and they're just in darkness.

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So it's not the fire and brimstone that we hear about?

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No, everything was telepathic and I didn't even have my eyes open and I could see myself

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floating in this vast open space and it was extremely peaceful.

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It was so serene and all the pain that I've had, it was completely gone.

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And I was so comforted and I felt so much love and I knew I could die.

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I thought of my family and I knew they could lose me, but then I also was comforted by

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the thought that they will be watched over if I was to go.

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I was initially told that I was awaiting a decision.

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I was told that they want us to be loving and caring and be one with everybody.

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Let me ask you, who was telling you this?

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These very large golden orbs that were in front of me.

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And when I looked off into the bright white light, I could also see golden orbs going

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through it, a lot of golden orbs.

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And these orbs were giving me all this information.

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They told me that they had a message and it's taken me a year to even get this message

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out publicly.

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It's been very difficult.

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I've had a very rough year.

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I was reading about NDEs and it said that if you have a NDE with darkness, that usually

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after you go through a period of shock, then you'll go into a period of deep depression.

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And that's exactly what happened to me.

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But they gave me a message that if we do not change from now until possibly 30 years in

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the future, that they will make the decision to reset the world, to reset and change humanity.

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And the vision they gave me was from the Pacific Ocean straight across through the Gulf.

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And this event would only be a God created event.

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I know the San Andreas Fault is there.

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And when this event occurs, a vast cavernous opening will happen from the ocean and the

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Pacific all the way through to the Gulf.

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And it's going to start a cataclysm of water and land falling away.

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And the San Andreas Fault in that part of California will all be gone.

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They were reiterating to me that if this was to occur, and it's very possible that how

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the ice caps are melting, if the global warming issue with the ice melting and this event

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opening up in the Pacific Ocean, if that was to occur at the same time, then it's definitely

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going to be a reset.

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There's no bowing back.

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There's no humanity.

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So yeah, they want us to change.

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Okay.

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So by us, everybody in this country and the whole world, who needs to change?

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The whole world.

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They are extremely distraught about the state of the world, about war, about everybody treating

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each other badly.

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Even our thoughts are, you know, if we're thinking of sinful things, they just want

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us to love each other and be caring and kind and lending.

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And through this experience, I'm having a spiritual awakening.

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I have always gone back and forth through religion and I never absorbed it.

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The first time I went to church after the NDE, everything that was spoken that day in

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scripture I knew.

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It's not like before, I'm just listening to it and you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a

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story, but no, now I feel it within me.

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There are scriptures that are very accurate.

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I found a passage in Matthew that fits this very well.

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I don't know if you'd like me to speak of it, but yeah, go ahead and read it to us.

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It's Matthew 712 and it says, but love your enemies and do good and lend, expecting nothing

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in return and reward will be great.

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So whatever you wish that others would do to you, also do to them.

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Love is patient, kind, and it's not arrogant and rude.

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And I think this fits very well to what they were trying to explain to me.

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Okay, I just want to make sure I've got this all clear.

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So they that were talking to you were these two giant golden orbs.

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Yes.

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Right?

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Yes.

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And they gave you a message to tell the world here, which is we need to shape up, we need

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to be better people.

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Right.

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And if we don't, this cataclysmic event is going to happen.

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But if we do, it won't happen.

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I got all that right.

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This is really fascinating because most of the NDEs, this doesn't happen.

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They're just, they have a very personal experience and have a message maybe for the world, but

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not something that's more, I hate to use this term maybe, but more prophetic as far as shape

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up or else.

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So I find it very interesting.

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Why do you think you were given this message versus somebody else?

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Or maybe somebody else was?

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I think that I've always had guardian angels.

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I've always had people praying for me.

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I really feel that my family then has crossed over.

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They've really been, I don't know if you want to say speaking to these energies or entities

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that they want me to be saved, especially my father.

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And I really feel like, you know, somebody's working for me.

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And I did have also a personal message for myself.

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They did finally come back and tell me that I need to work on myself and then I also need

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to be here for my daughter.

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You know, there's a lot of personal issues that we're dealing with.

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I think as far as me working on myself, I believe it's the message to get my words right,

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to get my scripture right, and so I can spread this message clearly.

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And that's what I've been doing.

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I've been working, reading through scriptures, reading through the Bible.

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But recently I have had puzzle pieces fit together.

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I recalled some things that happened to me, not in NDE, but a few years back.

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They're kind of, I guess you could say they're kind of out there as something that would

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happen.

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But I had an experience and it's a weird place for this to happen, but I had an experience

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at night going down the tollway to Chicago and all of a sudden this unbelievable bright

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copper gold light just flashed in front of me and my husband didn't see this, but I seen

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it and I had to lift my arm up and cover my eyes because it was so bright.

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But within that light was a tablet and it was filled with Roman numerals.

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And in that instant I was able to get the first Roman numerals and it was XIVXIVIIXI.

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And I looked that up according to the Bible and it says it has to do with the number 14.

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And I've been trying to read the scriptures and see if any of those fit to my experience

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because I'm starting to think that these things that I've seen in the past are all related.

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Last December I was letting my dogs out and I had the door open and the whole family had

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closed really bad, but I was just looking up at the sky and all of a sudden this big

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orb had flashing colors going throughout it.

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It was red and green and blue and it was very close to my house and it was very low and

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I have it on video and I think it was connected to me.

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And again I had that magnetic pull feeling and I get that in my chest and it just feels

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like I'm being pulled towards something.

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I'm starting to think that these things are connected.

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I don't see any other reason why I would have these experiences.

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What does the video look like that you took?

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It's actually on my husband's page.

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I've been having trouble getting it out of my old Facebook page, but it's December 21,

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2021 on my husband Steve Morris' Facebook page.

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And it's the sky, it's all black, it's sort of clear.

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You can see a few stars, but you can clearly see this orb moving and changing color and

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it was there.

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And I know they say if you witness something, just video it as long as you can, but I couldn't

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because I was so sick with COVID and I have about, I don't know, maybe five minutes of

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it.

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Okay.

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We'll try to work out you and I getting this video and we'll post it in our social media

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for people to.

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Well, that's a lot to take in.

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Do you have any impression now that you've had a little time to think about it?

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Back to your NDE when you saw these two big orbs, do you think they represented like God

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or a person or an angel or what's your feeling on it?

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Yes.

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I know that people have had NDE's and they've seen Mary, they've seen Jesus, they've seen

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God and heaven and my experience is teaching me that all of those words, spirit, God, Jesus,

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those are like labels of comfort, you know, us as humans so we can understand.

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But my NDE was completely energy-based.

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The orbs of the golden orbs were complete radiating energy.

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Even my family members, they were half orb and half as I remember them.

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And I think too that even God, what we're calling God is, he's a higher power.

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He's like the one that runs the show and these golden orbs, which there's many, many golden

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orbs, they are able to assist people in transition.

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Tell me about the 10 family members that you saw.

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Do you know who they were by name?

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I know all of them.

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I have a painting that I did.

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So were these grandparents?

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Were these people that you knew?

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Yes.

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You know, when my father passed away, I was devastated.

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I'm a daddy's girl, spoiled as everybody called me, but I was truly devastated.

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And I ever, I thought that if I ever see my father, I would just be hysterical, crying.

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And you know, all these 10 family members were there and it went from my father to my

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godmother to my godfather, my dad's two brothers and three more of my dad's aunts.

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And my dad's mother had 10 sisters and one brother.

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So I could see them all very clearly, what they looked like.

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But what was amazing is that the bottom half of them was energy, it was orb.

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So it was pretty profound.

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Were these people that have all passed away?

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Yes, they are.

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I have always felt like my grandmother has been my guardian angel since I was little.

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And was that confirmed during this experience?

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Well, I got the feeling that, you know, my father, my godmother and my grandmother are

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these three that are really looking out for me.

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Or I felt hold to them the most.

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Okay.

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You know, I can see why you haven't talked about this much because right here, this is

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a safe space.

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I have no reason not to believe anything that you're saying.

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Some people when you tell them about a cataclysmic event that may happen, are going to think

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you're one of those, you know, wackos that's going to get a big following and, you know,

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build a camp someplace or something.

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Yeah.

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And now that I've gone through this experience and I'm trying to learn how to speak more

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clearly about the event, I'm coming into contact with some people that, you know, outright

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said that there's no way I made it up.

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I'm looking for attention, which is kind of funny to me because I'm never the type of

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person that likes attention on me.

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So it has been difficult.

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Did you tell somebody, your minister, pastor, whatever, at church about this?

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And how did that person respond?

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Yes.

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When I was in the hospital, I spoke to the pastor.

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One other thing that happened to me when I came home and I was having those nightmares,

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I had a shadow figure and a girl attached to me from the hospital.

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And a lot of people don't believe in paranormal either, but my entire life I've had some type

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of paranormal experience.

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But when I came home from the hospital, this shadow figure was kind of plaguing me for

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a few days.

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And I did talk to my pastor about it.

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And even, you know, speaking with her, she agreed with everything I said.

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And she believed that these things with shadow figures and spirits, you know, she was in

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agreement with me about everything that I said.

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And she was very, very comforting.

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That must have been very reassuring.

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Yes.

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I felt so good after I talked to her.

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You know, when I'm getting, I feel like I'm getting messages everywhere now.

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And there'll be certain things like in a book or, you know, something that's said on TV.

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And I feel like it's a direct message that these orbs are sending to me.

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I've even spoke with my primary physician about this.

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And he told me that him and some other of his friends that are doctors that they all

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believe when the soul separates from the body and you can see yourself, they believe that

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that is actually true, that you have passed on to another realm.

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And we talked about my whole NDE for an hour.

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And he as well was very comforting.

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And every time I go to see my doctor, he calls me Miracle Girl now.

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And actually, all the doctors in the hospital, when they see me, they said I was a miracle.

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And they, you know, I didn't have all the oxygen back to my brain.

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And they would come in and they would look at me and they'd walk around the bed and they'd

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say, well, you're a miracle.

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You shouldn't be here.

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We don't know why you're here.

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And I didn't really absorb it because of the lack of oxygen.

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It took me some time to get all my thoughts back together and to realize the NDE happened.

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All right.

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We'll call you Miracle from here on out.

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Thanks.

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No problem.

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Okay.

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Let's come back to what you were talking about.

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So some people are giving you a hard time when you tell them about what happened or

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they read about what happened.

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Yeah, I actually had a few people, you know, put words in my mouth and telling me that

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I'm scared and, you know, that they don't know what you're talking about.

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They don't know me.

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They don't know my life.

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They don't know my NDE.

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And you know, I try to politely give replies back as gently as I can and, you know, try

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to explain to them.

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You know, this is my NDE and I'm just sharing it and sharing what I was told to share.

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So I can't help those people.

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It's not up to me.

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What else did you see or hear or experience during the NDE?

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I did see myself in the emergency room with a bunch of lines, you know.

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I had stuff in my nose and in my arms and the oxygen.

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And I could see the most of the emergency room.

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So you saw what was happening with your body.

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Yes.

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Did you also see more in this spirit world?

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You mentioned the light, for example.

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Yes.

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I don't think, you know, they told me I was awaiting that decision, but that white light

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was so far off in the distance that I honestly, you know, I knew I could die and it really

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wasn't my decision.

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But you know, I wasn't afraid and I really didn't think or feel that I would have to

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stay or I would go to the white light.

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I really was just, you know, being given information and, you know, information to better my life.

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Based on the message that you were asked or told to give to us, let's get just a little

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more specific for a second and then we'll wrap up here.

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What are some of the things that each of us can be doing better?

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I won't run into the right words, but we need to encourage each other.

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We need to deal with situations without violence.

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We need to lend a helping hand if somebody needs it.

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We shouldn't be asking of things in return.

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We really need to become one.

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And this world is supposed to be about love and kindness and everybody getting along in

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any situation.

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So I believe this is what they're telling me.

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You know, they really want us to change.

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And there's a lot of scripture that it's right there in front of us and we're not absorbing

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it.

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You know, there's a lot of bad news out there on the 10 o'clock news.

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And now you're telling us some horrible cataclysmic event may happen.

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I know you have a message of hope to tell us what that is.

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I do feel that we can turn ourselves around.

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I mean, we are given such beauty in this world and we really do have a paradise here on earth.

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We just have to see it.

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You know, we really shouldn't.

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I know everybody asks the question, what happens after we die?

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And I don't think for the vast majority of people that we really have to worry.

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And I know that everybody that has lost a loved one, that their family members are watching

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over them and they will be there for them when it's their turn to cross over.

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On the scale of one to 10, how afraid of death are you?

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Zero.

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I'm not at all.

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I continually think about that peaceful, loving feeling.

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There's just no worries.

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There's no pain.

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There's just serenity.

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And it's a feeling that you just cannot compare to anything we have here on earth.

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I keep wanting to get back into that feeling, but I can't seem to do it here on earth.

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All right.

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Thank you for that message and thanks for being on with us today.

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Thank you very much.

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