From the time that they pronounced me that was
a good 45 minutes They cut my clothes and then
they paddled my heart my heart stopped and I
could see people screaming and crying But I didn't
realize that was actually my physical body because
I was somewhere else The only thing that I could
feel if you can imagine Absolute love and peace
there wasn't anything else to be felt. I was
greeted by people I'd known in the past I'm back
home again. Incredibly safe and felt at home.
Welcome, welcome to Round Trip Death, everybody.
We're going to have a great time today. We're
going all the way over to Derbyshire, England.
Please tell me I said Derbyshire, right? Yes,
you did. To meet with Jane Osborne and Jane,
thank you for your patience. Thank you for being
with us, even though it's a super hot day where
you are. It's extremely hot. Thank you very much
for inviting me on I'm looking forward to it
before we hit the record button we were just
talking about how hot it is there and Translated
that into Fahrenheit. It's about a hundred degrees
without air conditioning. What did you say 38?
Centigrade 38, but it did go up to 40 yesterday.
It was just unbearable It's the humidity with
it as well. You know, it's everything sticks
Well, I hope you've got lots of water going on
and you're keeping safe because that can be life
-threatening Okay before we jump into your experience,
which I think people are gonna enjoy I Don't
think we've had anyone on the show before that's
had an NDE from base jumping So there's a little
tease of what's coming in this episode But tell
us just a little bit about who's Jane so we can
get to know you Jane, at that time, I was an
outdoor pursuit instructor. I used to work for
Derbyshire Education. So I was used to rock climbing,
caving, abseiling, skiing, anything with a lot
of adrenaline, whatever. I'd been parachuting
since I was 17. I trained with the RAF Lincoln
Parachute Regiment. This particular day, this
August bank holiday, I was on my own I've got
three children but they were with the father
so I was on my own and I thought it's a lovely
day I'm going to take my camera drive up to the
Peak District which is a national park about
half an hour away from me put my camera in the
car I thought I'm I'm going off to Kat's tour
where I was going to be base jumping and just
taking beautiful aerial shots and things which
is where I started so I managed to run off the
Edge of Cats tour and I was up in the thermals
looking at my watch on the meter it was one of
around one and a half thousand foot when I had
a massive pull back at that height I didn't know
what the heck had hit me I thought I'd run into
something or something and I was pulled back
with such force and I was only a skinny dippy,
like some stone -wet -through girl at the time
and so it's immediately it like cracked my ribs
so I was having difficulty breathing and as I
turned to look and see what was happening as
I was trying to look around me I noticed that
my emergency parachute had deployed as I was
looking at that parachute which was over here
and obviously I was on this parachute here. All
of a sudden, you see it in movies, don't you,
when you see pictures that go vroom, vroom, vroom,
and it all comes together at once. Truly, that's
how it happens. I had this download of information,
and my brain was in overdrive, and I just knew
that parachute there was coming for me. I didn't
know whether to use the B lines on the main parachute.
or the emergency chute was all so confusing and
obviously I was in a V with my little legs hanging
down because I was on two parachutes so I didn't
have much support and as I got that message that
that parachute is coming for you I looked at
my watch and I was already I'd already dropped
500 foot I was down I was a thousand foot because
I saw the emergency chute dropping like this
coming down and I thought oh it's getting close
it's getting close and then it sort of dipped
in the thermal and I thought oh I think I'm going
to be all right you know I can cope with the
drag emergency shoot but then it kind of went
straight up and it went straight into the main
parachute and at that I looked at my watch and
it was a thousand foot and of course it just
just deploded the main parachute and I dropped
down like a bullet really fast I had a lot of
PTSD with wind even now with a car I can't have
the air conditioning on because of the wind on
my face because when you're dropping at that
speed your cheeks are going You know what I mean?
So I did I smashed on Kat's tour, but I was still
attached to two parachutes and I'm still quite
high up So those those parachutes then filled
up again and thank goodness I was kitted up and
I've got my helmet on and everything like a rag
doll as they going off with the wind I was getting
dragged behind like a doll bouncing across the
rocks and at Kat's tour there's about this much
moss and the rest is rock. I was pretty beaten
up and damaged. I eventually got to hospital
where they spent several days x -ray scans and
MRIs and all sorts because I'd fallen at such
a height they didn't quite know what was broken.
But the prognosis was that, and I was conscious
throughout all of this by the way, it was very,
very painful. The prognosis from the consultant
was that we've checked you over for the past
few days. The bottom line is you've broken most
bones in your body, you've crushed your spine,
you've broken your neck in two places. We're
going to do our best for you, but you need to
understand that it's likely that you'll never
walk again. You're going to be paralysed for
life. And he just walked out and left me with
that. Can you imagine that? I'm flat packed,
my head in a box, having to cope with that, it
was enormous. I can't even imagine at all. And
before we move more forward, because I want to
get tons of detail here, I want to ask you a
couple of technical things about the base jumping.
So when your emergency chute deployed, which
obviously that's not supposed to happen first.
Major error. Is it because you pulled the main
chute? Or were you not supposed to have a shoot
yet? Were you still free -falling? Get fill in
a little bit of that blank. I don't totally get
it. What I was doing, I was base jumping. I was
up in the thermals. I've got my camera. There
were lots of birds below me with the wings open.
And no parachute yet, right? I was on a parachute
then. Oh, okay. Okay. I was gliding on the thermals.
You just get into a pocket of wind, basically.
If it's, I don't know, if it's up there at 10,
15 miles an hour, you're probably gliding along
at like 30 to 40 miles an hour. So you can get
a lot of shots. And as I was doing that and obviously
focusing, taking lots of pictures on my camera
and then jerked back, it completely took the
wind out. Well, literally took the wind out of
my sails. What a pun. Okay, that was the part
I just wasn't quite clear on so you had your
regular shootout already then the emergency shoot
malfunctioned and came out and That and you're
not supposed to have both at the same time that
messes everything definitely not yeah, it's not
good news So then crazy things are happening
you fall over a thousand feet and you hit rocks
and you're being drug over rocks, is that what
you were saying? That have just a thin layer
on them? Because I was trying to gauge, because
I was coming down so fast, I was trying to gauge
the ground, ready to do a PLF landing. Basically,
you scrunch yourself up in a roll so that when
you hit the ground, you roll so you don't break
bones. But I was going so fast and I was like,
is it 300, 200, 100? Bang! and I actually hit
the base of my spine on Kat's tour I screamed
with all my might because I could feel the pain
coming up my spine but also I had this horrendous
noise coming out of my ears and it was where
every vertebra because obviously it smashed at
the base and every vertebra was hitting the next
vertebra up and I could feel this force coming
up my spine, up my neck you know like If you
hold a shell to your ears, that big sea wave,
it was like a thunder coming out of my ears.
That was obviously the sound of all my bones
ricocheting up together and it just came out
of my ears and I was just screaming in agony.
Yeah, it was horrendous. Just talk about cringe.
I just can't even imagine. Okay, if you would
fill in now, you told us a little bit about the
injuries and being in the hospital. Give us a
little more detail on what all was broken and
then when you had an experience leaving your
body in the middle of that because it didn't
happen Right when you hit the ground it happened
a little later, right? No, I decided that's amazing
that you can have that much will absolutely amazing
I would never have dreamt of doing it, but I
was ready to bail out Well, I broke my arm in
a couple of places. I broke my foot in four places.
Obviously, I crushed all my spine and my neck
and lots of other many injuries. So I was flat
packed, if you like, on the hospital bed. My
head was in a box. I was drips all over me. I
was going in and out of sleep, obviously, because
they were trying to keep me steady. So they were
giving me lots and lots of medication. But I
was waking up thinking, phew, I don't know what
it is that they put me on here. I know there
was morphine in it, but I don't know what they
put me on here, but it's taking me up with the
fairies. Because, you know, when you wake up
and you think, am I in a dream or whatever? But
when the consultant left me in that room after
saying, he was very quick at it, this is what's
going to happen to you. You've got this, this,
this, and you're probably never going to walk
again. And he just walked off out. All I had
was my eyes and my ears and my voice, although
my head was in a box and I couldn't move my chin.
And all I could do was look at the ceiling. I
was super fit. I was super active. I never sat
still. I thought this can't be happening to me.
I'll never walk again. I am not going to stay
in this vehicle, in this meat suit and just look
out. I felt like I was trapped in a body coffin.
I just said to myself, I don't think I signed
up for this. This can't be happening to me. And
I just said with all my might, God help me. I
didn't sign up for this. God help me. Get me
out of here. And bang, I was viewing myself from
the corner of the hospital room. and as I was
looking down at myself I knew that I was connected
to the person but I looked completely different
to what I normally look because obviously I was
black and blue I looked like something off a
butcher's block as I was looking down I heard
a voice and it seemed to come from inside my
head like a speaker inside my head and it said
what are you doing here you need to go back and
I was really really confused with that because
I wasn't into the things that I'm into now at
that time. They said, you need to go back and
start healing people through various things,
which we'll talk about later. And I thought,
I must be going mad because I've just been told
I'm going to be paralysed for life. I literally,
I can move my eyelashes and my lips and that
was it. Everything else was sort of out of action.
I just couldn't get my head around it, you know,
and in my mind, all I said to myself was, If
you think that I'm going back there then you've
got another thing coming because I looked at
myself and I was a complete mess. I was purple.
Purple and swollen blob in this bed. And all
I heard was you will and woof. Just this force.
It was like flicking a switch. I was back in
the body and back in all the pain. It was horrendous.
But as I was trying to manage the pain I got
a message that said we're showing you how to
work in your dreams. Then, all of a sudden, since
I had that out -of -body experience, I was in
a room on my own, but the door was open. I could
hear the nurses in the corridor, you know, by
the reception and everything. I only said in
my mind, wouldn't it be lovely to get out and
walk and chat? And there I was. I was sat on
the desk. It was just like a cartoon. I was like,
hey, what's going on here? So I listened to all
the conversations. So when they came in, I was
able to talk to them and they said, what? I said,
did your daughter like a birthday present? Or
where did you hear that? I was on the desk. They're
saying, what? We've heard about these things.
If I thought that I wonder what happens to my
dog because I left my dog out, I'd got quite
a bit of land and he got a lot of room to roam
around in. And boom, I was hovering right over.
I'd got an aerial view of my property. with the
dog in the allotment, or if I wanted to see my
children, I could just move with Thor. It was
amazing. So although a lot of my functions shut
down, this superpower, all of a sudden, transporting
myself here and there, it was just on top form.
That began to settle down the more I began to
get movement, but I really struggled. It took
me nearly five years to learn to walk. I would
be taken to a hydro pool, flat -packed, and I
would be winced into the water. And literally
I would do that. That was the entire energy in
my body. And then they'd bring me out and they'd
hairdry me, because by that time I'd lost all
feelings in my legs and everything. I had no
feelings at all from the waist down. But the
nerves were beginning to knit. And so I couldn't
actually have anything on me, so they had to
hairdry me down. pull me out with the winch then
just hair dry me down because I mean I couldn't
have even had this on it was so painful so I
had a lot of things to work through but when
I was just waking up you know that just before
just after you sleep and before you're compus
mentis you get some thoughts sometimes and I
would get messages like one of them was do what
you can with what you've got today and I'd had
to have a couple of operations on my feet, they
had to screw all my bones together. That was
really painful and one morning I woke up with
the image of a tuning fork because I'd asked,
hopefully I'll be able to find something for
this pain and I thought well that was a bit crazy
so anyway I bought a tuning fork and it worked
because it dispersed the frequency, dispersed
the pain in my foot and that's how I got into
sort of alternative therapies if you like and
I remember even though I couldn't feel my feet
at all. No feeling from the waist down at one
stage. My legs were sort of this thin but in
my mind I knew I was going to be on my feet.
I was determined I was going to walk. So I got
some of those exercise pads and I would put them
on my legs and I'd watch all my muscles twitch.
I couldn't feel a thing. My mum came in one day
in despair. She came to look after me for a while.
And she said, Jane, Jane, what on earth are you
doing? I said, my legs aren't fit enough to carry
me. I'm preparing my legs ready to walk. And
she'd be like, oh my God. You know, we're going
to have a struggle with her. She doesn't understand.
And I said, no, mum, I'm going to walk. She's
in denial. Yeah. And so she would go out in despair
thinking, you know, what am I going to do with
her? So I was preparing my legs to get them strong
before I could walk and eventually when I was
in a wheelchair and then crutches and all of
that, I actually went to see a reflexologist.
I didn't have much feeling in my legs, but I
knew I'd got the message that I need to move
my body, I need to move the energy. It's like
move the source, I think it was that they said.
So I thought, well, I'll try this reflexology
malarkey. You know, I didn't really know what
it was. I had a treatment with reflexology. And
when I got home, I got a telephone call from
the lady. Because, I mean, bearing in mind, I
was in a cast from my hips to under my arms.
My neck was in a box. I walked in sort of like
a Michelin man. She was just ringing me up to
make sure that I'd got home OK. And I was distraught.
I said to her, I said, yeah, I'm OK. I said,
I've got home, but I'm not OK. I'm not OK. I
said, I got in the car to come home. I would
be driving at 10 miles an hour because every
bump, every little bump you could feel. As I
was driving home, I started to cry and I haven't
stopped crying. I don't know what you've done
to me. And she said, Jane, she says, it's the
trauma coming out of your body. I didn't understand.
how those therapies worked and I thought oh well
now I understand that obviously it's healing.
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my kitchen and my mum was by the sink preparing
something whatever she was doing. I just went
into a blind panic through my crutches dropped
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I couldn't understand. why I just totally lost
the plot. It was like I was electrified and dropped
to the floor. And so I went to see a hypnotherapist
and I was regressed back and we put it in black
and white, we put it in slow motion and everything
else because I wanted to know the core issue
of what happened to me because I was scared because
I didn't know what I was scared of, if you know
what I mean. The core of it was Mum was in my
kitchen and she got the patio doors open and
the breeze was coming in and it just touched
my face like that. Well, when you're dropping
one and a half thousand foot, you know, it's
like... It took me straight back, straight back
to that trauma and I just collapsed in bits on
the floor. So I found that through hypnotherapy
and I used a lot of other different therapies
as well to get over things. But I got a lot of
healing messages and I became super aware. My
hearing was, I don't know, I felt like I was
a dog. I could hear for miles because all my
other functions had shut down. My hearing and
my smell, I could actually smell somebody on
my drive that was coming into the house. But
as my physical self got a little bit better each
month, those senses slowed down a little, but
it was a horrendous roller coaster. I mean, that's
when my journey began. I began on that healing
journey. Okay, let's do this. I want to hear
just a little bit more about this part, and I've
got a couple of questions for you. And then for
those that are interested, we're going to move
on and talk a little bit about some of these
alternative healing things that you've picked
up in practice now. Yeah. But to go back with,
when you first left your body, it was because
of something that you said. Do you remember what
you told me? I just said, I said to the universe,
no, I didn't sign up for this. Yeah. You know,
I bailed out. God helped me get me out of here.
Yeah. God helped me get me out of here. And it
was like I just changed channels and I was looking
at myself from a different view. Yeah. And at
some point you were told that you needed to go
back. Yeah. And I knew that that was an authoritative.
It wasn't, it wasn't harsh, but it was firm.
It was comforting, but firm and authoritative.
And when they said you had to go back and obviously
I'm protesting, I knew that it was pointless.
I knew that I'd be going back. Was this a voice
or a feeling? No, it was a, it was a voice, you
know, like it was like an echo in my head as
if I heard it from the inside, as if it was coming.
From inside of me you need to go back and I thought
no chance and then you will bang I was straight
in back in the body thought well, that's what
hell of a parent Yeah, while you were out of
body was there anything else that you felt or
saw or heard? Yeah, when I first had the impact
on Kat's tour, it was almost like, you know,
you're a thorough body around you. It was almost
like I smashed to the ground and I just exploded.
So when the nurses would try to come into the
hospital room, I would be shouting, obviously
flat -packed, but I could sense when they were
coming in and I would say, stop, stop, stop,
you're treading on me. And they'd only be by
the door. And they're saying, what are you talking
about, Jane? We need to come. We need to change
this medication. I'd got drips everywhere, in
my legs, in my arms, everywhere. And I said,
no, no, no. You're hurting me. You're treading
on me. And they didn't understand it. And the
consultant came in by the door because the nurses,
you know, I banned them all. I said, you can't
come in. So he came to the door. tried to reason
with me. And I said, no, they're treading on
me. I can feel them. It's almost like they're
treading on my soul. So we worked out a mechanism
that I would count to 10. I would tell them when
I'm counting to 10, and they would rush in, chase
a drip and be out by nine, because I could feel
their energy coming towards me. And it was really
pressing on me. I was so fragile, so fragile,
emotionally, mentally, physically. Fragile. Totally
amazing that you were alive at all. I can't believe
it. Yeah, you basically broke everything. You
were a broken person in all those different ways
that you just mentioned. And I think that because
there was a lot of things going on, I just finished
my law degree. That's one thing I said when they
said you need to go back and start helping people.
I thought I haven't studied law all these years
to go lala. What are they talking about? You
know, that's not my bag. That ended my career.
I just got a contract with Sir Nicholas Wilson
after law school to work at the High Courts of
Justice and I thought, well, you know, I'm on
my way. But that all stopped. I do know that
I was on my own, I was single, I'd got three
jobs, three part -time jobs, taking the children
to school and everything else, looking after
my allotments and blah blah blah, you know, self
-sufficient. I don't need anybody, nobody can
touch me, I'm gonna be strong. And obviously
my soul's saying, Jane, it doesn't work like
that. So I wasn't listening to myself. My mother
would call me a willful mare. I don't know whether
that's familiar to you over there. Well, contrary
mare, she would call me. But that will actually
was the strength that I used to get myself better
again. She said, I never realised your willfulness
until now. You're preparing yourself for this
step. I had to flatline and start all over again
because I was so busy doing, doing, doing. I
was... deliberately blinding myself from situations
where I needed to change my lifestyle. One job
would be fine. I didn't need two and three and
whatever. I didn't need to be doing everything
that I thought I'd need to do because I need
to be self -sufficient. You know, you can ask
people to do things. I was just burning out,
totally burning out. And I know your subconscious
mind is there to look after you and it will look
after you. If your body isn't coping, let's say
it thinks she needs a rest, we're gonna give
her the flu. And you don't listen, they'll think,
right, that's it, we're gonna give her pneumonia
and knock her off her feet for a week. Because
your body knows, your body is actually telling
you, but I wasn't listening. I could cope, I
didn't need anybody, I could do everything, I
could manage everything. I'm financially fine,
I'm okay. I was very defiant. I'm a lot softer
now. You changed a lot. Overall, what were the
biggest things that you learned from this experience?
Living in the moment is very important because
we can think about, let's say, oh, it looks like
cloudy day. I think it's going to rain. We might
take a brolly, blah, blah, blah. We've got all
these think, think, think, think, think. And
we're thinking about things that don't even exist
half the time that we forget to look and think
the honeysuckles out. That blossom looks lovely.
We're blind to a lot of things. Just like when
you drive with your car, you're driving so fast
you don't see anything. Whereas if you walk,
you see the trees, you smell the fragrance. Just
living in the moment is very important. All right.
We've been through all that. Some of the other
things that you and I wanted to talk about were
these alternative healing things. One thing that
I hear about often I don't have personal experience
with is past life regressions. Would you explain
what that is and how it helps people? Okay, past
life regression. Actually now we know through
quantum physics time is not linear, but basically
you regress a person to a point in time, whether
it's this life or a previous life, because our
soul is one soul and These bodies are suits,
just like we change our vehicle. We can drive
a truck, we can drive a bus, we can drive a car.
And so our soul will have several lives to contract
on challenges, experiences and challenges. That
is the theory. So I got into that purely because
it helped me. Because you can go to the root
cause of things that are issues that happen today.
And we know now through quantum physics that
we know through DNA. ADHD, mental health issues,
cancer. We know that we can transfer those, but
we also know now that we can transfer thought.
There was an experiment with rats, and I don't
know whether you know about the thin red deer
in Germany. The thin red deer, when the Berlin
Wall went up, there was a massive wall around,
separated East and West Germany. Obviously, in
the countryside, lots and lots of woodland, They
had Harris fencing, etc. The animals in the woodlands,
there's lots of deer in there, they soon got
to know that if you got a little bit close to
the fence, you're liable to stand on a mine or
something. If you got really close, you know,
you'd fry. I can't remember how long the Berlin
Wall was up. I think it came down in 1989, but
reindeer only lived till they're about 15. So
there was like two generations of reindeer. But
even to this day, The reindeer knew from that
side of the woodland to that side and to this
day they do not cross that line. They'll get
up close to where the Harris fencing used to
be, they'd chew some cod and then they'd walk
off but you know they just know that it's a survival
technique that they've got. So is that genetic
or how does that happen? Some people think that
it's conditioning. Obviously, every animal's
got their own language, they talk to each other,
but it's transferred thought. It's like there
was an experiment with some pregnant rats, which
they impregnated with a blossom. Let's call it
apple blossom. And obviously, that was a shock
to their system. And the minute that they had
their babies, they'd got a little tray, little
box, and they'd put the babies in there so that
they had no... nurturing from the mother rats,
they put them in this little tray, this box,
and they were sort of trying to crawl around
and then what they did was they put some apple
blossom in a corner of the box and the minute
that the baby rats started to get towards that
corner they went into fight or flight mode. It's
almost like it changes their code, their survival
code. So, and there's a lot that we don't understand
about our memory, isn't there? Yeah, and with
animals, we call a lot of that instinct. Yeah.
So whether it's in their DNA, whether it's social.
I mean, to me, instinct is more than just social.
It's something innate that's going to happen.
So that'd be interesting. Like, it'd be interesting
to find out. Was there ever a time when they
took some of those deer near the Berlin Wall
who maybe had lost their mother Were raised at
a place where we know this mother could not have
communicated Hey, don't go in this area And did
they still avoid that area? The thing is that
there's there's so many Questions that we can
ask. I just think now where I was a very closed
off. I was very factual where I wanted case studies,
evidence, facts, fact, fact, fact. I began to
have an open mind. That's all you need to do.
You don't have to believe everything. If it doesn't
sit with you, don't go with it. You know if something
is comfortable with you, but it's a bit like
you've heard of somebody having too much on the
shoulders, having a heavy heart. I help a lot
of people with what they think is IBS, when actually
they regress, when I take them to the root cause,
they regress to a time, let's say that they were
in a coercive relationship, because our soul
holds receipts, we hold memories in our muscles,
in our organs, so they regress to that time.
because it's IBS here, because it's where they've
got a memory of a time in their life when they
couldn't stomach life. It's very symbolic. Do
you see what I mean? I'm just open to everything.
I don't say, it's like we've just had a retreat.
We have log cabin that we do healing retreats.
So we hire a big log cabin and we're drumming.
We have a fire pit. We have high vibrational
food. We only have a high vibrational food for
that weekend. And we do loads and loads of different
techniques. People love when we do the elevation.
When somebody's on a chair and with your hands,
you can just do this and you can actually lift
them off the chair. But it needs a group of you
to do it at the time to see it's amazing. That's
pure energy. We can't see it. We can't smell
it, but it's there. I just have to say, yeah,
well, obviously it is there. I don't have to
understand it all. Cool. All right. What do people
do with this information? Somebody listening
today, for example, that's never had any of this
kind of work done. Okay, I had a lady. I've got
a YouTube channel with about, I don't know, 600
videos on how I work. I'm a dinosaur with technology,
so I just put them out as they are. A lady came
to me, she was going through a bit of a challenging
relationship. When she was meditating, she saw
this particular flag. She'd got a bit of affiliation
with the Air Force. She'd always had a fascination
with Paris. It's in, I think that's in my second
book. I've got a few books out. And I did a book
of case studies, of my own case studies. Well,
this woman... I find name, date, time, place.
You know, if you're on a boat, I want to know
the name of the ship. I want to know the country
that you're in and the time line so that I can
research it on Google and find it. Well, this
woman, she went back to her life. She says, I'm
training in Paris. She says, I'm English but
I'm training in Paris. She told me her name and
she said she was training in Paris and she was
one of the first RAF women pilots. Although the
men actually did the frontline stuff, she said
we would go and collect people from war -torn
countries or, you know, we would be the ones
going on missions like taxiing because I asked
her, you know, what's the significance of this
flag that she sees and she drew it. and she said
it's what we know as Libya today. I used to travel
there to get people out of the country and she
told me her name and actually that was the name
of the first English woman pilot with the RAF
in that year and they actually trained in Paris
at that place and it's like I don't know how
they know all this but I've got to leave the
door open. I get so much detail it's unbelievable.
And so with your research you're able to prove
some of these things. Yeah, it really is what
they're saying. I had a woman that came to me.
She was petrified. She had to speak at work.
She was petrified. So that was just a plain,
simple hypnosis. But I asked her to go to the
root cause. And she told me she was a young lad
in Ireland, standing on a box on a crate with
a lot of other men fighting and shouting for
a decent men's pay, you know, wages. She said,
they all ended up in the tavern at night, but
the gentry weren't happy about this. She told
me the year and everything. And they gathered
them up and they hung them. But the blockage
was in her throat because, and I said, what's
the significance? And she says her mind remembers
these flash memories. And if she's in danger,
it tries to keep her away from danger. Every
time somebody asks her to speak, she's still
got that memory with her because we can transfer
memories and we know that. When somebody asks
her to speak, her mind says, hey girl, remember
what happened last time? Are you really sure
you want to speak up? But it's out of date news,
it's an out of date memory and we just haven't
filed it in the right place. This mind is massive.
I don't file everything in my house in the right
place. How would I cope with all this? We do.
associate things don't we and we don't file things
in the right place. Yeah and it helps and particularly
if somebody says got a mole or an injury it could
be related to say where they were shot in a previous
life or whatever and it's surprising because
as soon as they release that memory and they
have to do this then they feel a lot better.
I had a lady that went down to the root cause
of she couldn't see she got an eye patch and
a white stick. And I just said, I'm going to
ask what's happening with your eyes because the
NHS can't find anything wrong. And she went down
to when she was three years old and she said,
I'm in the kitchen and mummy and daddy are arguing.
She was crying and she was saying they won't
stop. So I was drawing at the kitchen table and
I closed my eyes and screamed, stop it, stop
it. And she was distraught. It was it was detachment
from her parents. It was like an attachment issue.
She says, and when I open my eyes, my daddy was
gone. And I said, well, what's that got to do
with, you know, the conditions of her eyes now?
And she said she made a decision at that time,
because obviously she closed her eyes when she
opened them, daddy was gone. She made a decision
she didn't want to see anymore. And she was holding
the memory at the back of her eyes. And I said,
right, well, let's go there. And we do it all
through thought. They have to be ready to let
it go because it's a bit like a piece of furniture.
You've had it so long. almost don't want to let
go of it. And then when they let it go, it just
releases it. Do you know what? When she came
off the couch, I was happy tears. She got hold
of my face and she went, oh, I can see your face.
I can see that light switch. And we both just
sobbed. She said, I can see. That's not me doing
miracles. That's me facilitating somebody finding
the root cause of their story. that trauma really.
But it's an amazing gift. Very cool. If anybody
wants to reach out to you, you have a website
jane -osborne .com. I'll put it down in the snow
notes. And I'm going to give you the last word
here. Here's my question. I would like you to
leave us with some kind of a message of hope.
Why we shouldn't have fear of the future or an
afterlife. If you can kind of put your thoughts
into that, that'd be great. Well, the thing is,
fear is just a thought, but we always, I mean,
we're here, aren't we? We've survived so many
things from when we were tiny to going through
our teenage years, divorce, accidents, whatever.
Naturally, we always survive. It's only our fear
that says, this is going to happen, this is going
to happen and it can kind of chew in your mind
a lot so just don't listen to that monkey mind
and don't believe in fear everything is a challenge
and sometimes it's because your body and everything
and your soul it needs a change in direction
and it will make you uncomfortable in situations,
in jobs or whatever because it's trying to steer
you in the right way it's almost like an invisible
parent and sometimes it is difficult but change
is really important and when you're having those
struggles like I thought I just lost the plot
and I was never going to walk again but that
when I lost everything was when my journey began
so never ever lose hope or faith and never be
afraid because you don't actually die you just
flick a switch and look at everything from a
different channel I like it Thanks a lot, Jane.
Appreciate you being with me today. You're welcome.
I've really enjoyed it. I've really enjoyed it,
Eric. Thanks again for listening and sharing
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