From the time that they pronounced me that was
a good 45 minutes They cut my clothes and then
they paddled my heart my heart stopped and I
could see people screaming and crying But I didn't
realize that was actually my physical body because
I was somewhere else The only thing that I could
feel if you can imagine Absolute love and peace
there wasn't anything else to be felt. I was
greeted by people I'd known in the past I'm back
home again. Incredibly safe and felt at home.
Welcome, welcome to Round Trip Death, everybody,
and a warm welcome to our special guest today,
Greg Halpern. How are you, Greg? I'm doing great.
Thanks so much for asking. This is going to be
so amazing today talking about 13 NDEs. Before
we jump into it, one minute, we want to get to
know Greg. Who are you? Well, I'm gonna be 68
in June and I've been born and raised in the
Chicago Midwest area and spent about two decades
in San Diego was my dream But I returned back
to my roots in Chicago where I was the little
kid who got picked on story got into martial
arts Kept struggling to be able to defend myself
finally My mid teens, I became a national champion,
and then in late teens, I became an international
champion in judo and wanted to qualify for the
Olympics in 80, but that got called off. So I
got involved in business. Business was of great
interest to me. In fact, I've become a serial
entrepreneur, invented crowdfunding in 1998,
and I've always been intrigued with how things
work. As early as my second grade teacher's letter
to my parents said that It actually sounded kind
of like a referral for a CEO job. And so I was
always very intrigued with how things work and
how to make things work in a manner that would
make lives better, namely my life better first,
because one of the things that always bothered
me about people trying to improve life, whether
it be health, happiness, wealth, or purpose,
that they didn't always walk the walk the walk
and talk the talk. They you know what say do
this but they were doing something different
so i tried to perfect being good at living if
you will and that's been my moniker ever since
is trying to do things that uplift people uplift
me uplift my family my friends my environment
and then naturally if you become abundant you
want to help those around you so that's become
essentially i will call it philanthropy i'll
just call it the goodwill of getting so much
and receiving so many gifts that i could pass
that back to the world in some meaningful way
and that's pretty much why i think i've been
put here and why i had these experiences kind
of like your mission in life well i i just have
to throw out the thing that i think is the elephant
in the room and i hope you don't mind i don't
mean to be offensive but 13 nd ease i mean come
on well it's it's been my journey regardless
I didn't plan that to be my journey. In fact,
when I was a little kid and I would get a near
-death experience, I always thought I was going
to get to check out. I didn't like the energy
on earth. I didn't like the people were very
disagreeable and argumentative, it seemed to
me. And I didn't think I really belonged here.
And that went on for a long time until finally,
not only did I think I belonged here, I could
see the purpose to all that. You know, sometimes
people will say, Well, you know, Greg, can you
tell me about your background? And I'll say,
well, that's, you know, kind of where to start.
I mean, I've been able to create and lead several
industries where I have no training. So how would
that happen? The purpose to me then became of
my near -death experiences to receive these different
gifts or essentially ways to live best for me
and that I could transfer that into successful.
business ventures first and then successfully
living a good life. Yeah I think we can all receive
some kind of spiritual direction in our lives
and yours seem to come through the near -death
experiences. All right we're not going to be
able to get to all 13 but there's a couple that
stand out that are sort of unusually interesting
or different or whatever you want to call it.
I want to start with number 12. We're talking
about the chlorine here. Would you just give
us some background and take us right through
that story? Sure. So I was pretty sure by the
time I had that experience, which was around
2005, that I would not have a near -death experience,
that I was done with having near -death experiences.
I had nine before I was 20, and then I had two
more in my 20s, and now this takes me to my 40s.
And I'm living a great life and I'm living in
Chicago and a suburb called Vernon Hills. I have
probably the nicest house in Vernon Hills. I
have a pool in my backyard and I was very obsessive
about keeping it clean and keeping the floating
device in the pool that chlorinated it and had
the little machine that went around and cleaned
the bottom of the pool with a vacuum. And it
was a hot August morning, I'll never forget it.
And I was in the backyard and I saw the chlorine
canister floating in the pool with a little frog's
head on top. I don't know if you've ever seen
this, Eric, but I was putting it up here because
the top wouldn't come off. It was like the plastic
had melted it on and it wasn't coming off no
matter what I did. So I was wrestling and wrestling.
And finally, after, I don't know, maybe two minutes,
three minutes, it just tore off. What I didn't
know was the chlorine tab. hadn't completely
been used up in the water and it evaporated and
mixed with the Chicago humidity, the hot August
humidity and turned to a gas, a chlorine gas.
So when I pulled it off, I breathed it in and
instantly I felt like somebody put a blowtorch
right here in my esophagus. Now I marched straight
up this long deck into my back of my house, to
my kitchen. And my dogs were all barking and
my wife came out over this balcony and she said,
can't you shut the dogs up? I'm trying to sleep.
And I said, well, I could try, but I said, I'm
probably going to be dead in three minutes. Literally.
That's what I said. And I knew right away what
had happened, but I made an emergency trip where
she called nine one one. And it was a paramedic
driving a mile away down Butterfield road. And
as he drove by, I guess he just made a turn and
came right into the development to try to rescue
me. But I went straight to this drawer where
there was a bottle like this, and on there I
had a mock -up label called Oral Saver. An oral
saver was something I had developed. You know
when you get like you bite your cheek or you
burn your mouth on a hot soup or pizza cheese
or whatever or you know if you get hit in the
mouth and you bite your tongue or you get a cold
sore. I was always obsessed that this has to
be fixed and I was always inventing things. I
had patents going back to the 80s in electronic
anesthesia and all kinds of stuff. So I had spent
about two months developing this solution. that
you could put in your mouth if you had any of
these oral ailments. And it had 13 separate homeopathic
ingredients that were for anti -burn situations.
It had chlorophyll. It had food -grade hydrogen
peroxide. It had all kinds of neat things, astringents.
And so I just subconsciously said, I got to have
that. So I went to the drawer. Not knowing the
profoundness of it. I took the bottle out and
I drank about half the bottle and then I could
drink anymore because my throat was closing up.
I went upstairs. I sat down on this massage chair
that we had and a minute later there was a paramedic
sticking a tube down my throat and taking me
to the Condell Hospital. Then it gradually opened
up and everything went back to somewhat normal,
but it felt like I'd been blowtorched. There
was no real big deal there except that I was
sure that this was it. I was gonna die because
my esophagus was going to burn up and it felt
like that. But anyway, I finally, I said to the
doctor who came and examined me, they said, well,
you're in great shape. We've done this, you know,
all these tests and EKG and echo and chest x
-rays and all this. And normally what happens
is when somebody has this kind of severe injury,
you get a collapsed lung and then you have a
stroke and then you die. or you become brain
dead. And so we'll watch you for a couple of
days. And I said, no, I got to get to a meeting.
She said, well, I won't sign you out and insurance
won't pay if you don't promise me that you'll
come right back from the side of the road. You'll
call if there's any problem. So I did. And I
left. Now that night I went home and fell asleep
at my desk at home about 11 o 'clock at night.
And then I woke up to this information. You know,
you get an idea. Eric, you're hearing this would
be a great little invention. So you start writing
and I'm sure this has happened to a lot of the
listeners. You don't want to forget this idea.
So I'm writing the purpose of life is to create
positive increase in all things good. So I was
like, okay, great. You know, that sounds really
good. And, but usually when people get what they
want, like in love, They start to see its limitations
after a period of time, whether it be days, weeks,
months. It could be a relationship. It could
be that new house. It could be, you know, a trip
you're going to take something amazing. But after
a period of time, they start to see its limitations
rather than the positive desire and love wanting
and things that they had for whatever that was.
And then it starts to break down. That was just
very profound. I'm writing, writing, writing.
So now I'm at a page. And I'm like, well, this
isn't going to do because the information is
still coming. So I start typing and I'm typing
and typing and typing. And like an hour's passed
and I've got principle one, principle two, principle
three. And so I keep doing this. And with the
exception of nodding off a few times and waking
up drooling on myself and having a couple of
snacks, you know, going to the bathroom so often,
I had this giant library of information and I'd
always thought I lived well. And I always thought
I had great information and I always thought
it came in from the ether as a result of these
experiences. But this time it was different because
now I had this gigantic library of things that
you could literally follow it. And that became
this giant inventory of information that apparently
from what I learned in my 13th near -death experience,
I was to be conditioned over the course of years
and receive all these near -death experiences
to essentially take out of my way out of my mind,
you know, all the elements that are going on
on Earth on a typical day and clear the path,
if you will, to receive this information to where
I can just receive it exactly as it was designed
to do. And if somebody believes, as I do, in
a spiritual force, you know, a supreme being,
I call it God, but, you know, people might have
all different views. And I wouldn't call myself
religious more than I would call myself spiritual.
But you believe that that good things are supposed
to come to you and it comes through this supreme
power, this universal consciousness or collective
consciousness, you know, we're all one mind.
And I was receiving all this great information
and then I had to know what to do with it. Of
course, it took until years later and took till
2016 and then 2020 and now to have three different
iterations of the same material that's been epically
transforming people all around the world for
for a long time it's very gratifying but anyway
that's a summary of this unique experience that
i had very cool and yeah i would call it unique
a lot of regular nds they have some time where
the person feels like they left their body and
either looked down on themselves or went someplace
else there's tunnels sometimes there's not some
other times in any of your experiences did you
have something like that happen Well, my experience
was always, it seems now and looking back at
it at the time didn't seem so, but at five from
five years old on very controlled into a space
of light. I can't even call it a room. I couldn't
say there were boundaries, just being stuck in
a space of light with a voice saying, you got
to go back. There's things to do. You know, you're
on the right path, but you have to do this and
you have to do that. And so this was always.
I thought I was going to get to check out then
later when I learned to fight and beat up a lot
of bullies and things and became a world -level
champion. I thought that was my purpose. And
then later when I got into business and created
crowdfunding and did all these things that don't
seem to go with no training. He has no training,
but he's a speaker at the Academy of General
Dentistry, the only non -degraded speaker, speaking
about his invention, electronic anesthesia, and
getting dentists for four hours where they get
Master's fellowship credit for attending his
seminar. I mean, these things don't, they're
not logical. If somebody says, well, yeah, but
13, it sounds ridiculous. Or, you know, tell
me about your life. I guess I can only say after
13 near -death experiences and all the gifts
that I've received, Eric, as a result. I can
only say that it's, you know, I sort of recognize
an absurdity to my own existence, if you will.
Yeah. Tell me a little bit about this bright
place that you tend to go to. You said it has
no boundaries, so it's not like a room. What
is it like? Well, it's like a giant space of
like, like, let's say the sun was ultra bright
and it lit up the space with warm light. You're
just in the space. You're aware that you're in
the space. You don't see yourself. I didn't see
myself Anyway, some people say they see themselves
in this kind of transition to an afterlife I
never really felt it was a transition. I felt
for a long time for the first several near -death
experiences i thought i was getting to check
out which was my kind of my goal then later i
thought well you know maybe there's a lot more
to this that i'm supposed to be doing because
i keep getting told to go back there's work to
do i'm not being told what the work is but then
i'm kind of being shown it and i'm receiving
information that tells me exactly what to do
so i feel like i became a vessel i mean that's
kind of a corny word but you know i'll use that
word a vessel to receive this information because
when you look back on it uh I've had a lot of
what I'll call thought leaders or people involved
in the mind fields or mindfulness fields, I guess
they call it now. And I was mentored by some
of these Zig Ziggler or Nightingale W. Comet
Stone. They always said you are what you think
about you become your thoughts and thoughts are
things, but I always felt it in the heart. So
when i'm in the space i feel something changing
in the heart i feel instant manifestation and
i'm receiving this so people over the years that
have sort of reviewed my background of said.
You know do you ever feel like you're getting
your information from the ether from the universe
or just coming into you nice about the only way
i feel like i've ever received any information
at all and this is cause me some frustration
in that when i've. Early on would see people
doing something i would say. Have you thought
of doing it like this or something? And thinking
to myself, isn't it obvious? You could do so
much better if you were just doing this and this,
but you couldn't really say that because people
are like, well, how do you know? I guess I could
just look at it and see clearly. So that's what
I think these transmissions were about to me
because later I don't say I look forward to it,
but I look forward to kind of proving that I
would just die and then I wouldn't die anyway.
So until... Now, you have to fast forward to
that 12th near -death experience because I think
it's very significant that I wasn't actually
going to, in my mind, have any more near -death
experiences when the 12th came. It was more than
15 years after my last near -death experience.
So I just thought I was done with that and then
I find out that I'm going to get all this information
and that's the whole point of that. Now, I always
had that light. except on my twelfth and my thirteenth.
And on the thirteenth I just had darkness sort
of end of the world gloom and doom because I
was I had a ruptured appendix I don't know should
I tell you something about that what happened
on my thirteenth. Well yeah and tell us about
the doom and gloom that you experienced. Well
that was different than all the others and I
guess that was my proverbial kick in the pants
from the source You know from the source of where
I'm getting this information and I can't tell
you this is God or God's helpers or angels or
you know people sent to tell me stuff what I
can tell you is that After I receive all that
information. I think okay now what I'm supposed
to do with it now fast forward I've written a
book called a message from the source I put it
out under a different title. I won't say much
about that now because I'm going to re -release
it. But it was the core information put into
about a hundred page book that taught people
seven blessings of meditation to receive essentially
clarity, health, happiness, purpose, awareness,
and abundance. I put it out there, but I think
in 2009, I was being Rolfed. If you don't know
what Rolfing is for the audience, it's deep tissue
work. And most people after one Rolfing session
cry and leave and they don't ever go back because
they, Rolfers, which named after Ida Rolf, the
inventor, this physicist in the 1920s, has a
whole global institution I'll call the Rolfing
Institute. And they are trained to dig deep into
the body with their hands and stretch the muscle
from the fascia and the bone. And it's very painful
for somebody that just goes to get, maybe they
think they're getting a massage. And it's designed
to elongate the spine and take away the injuries
from compression and just getting older. This
Rolfer was doing my 189th Rolfing session. And
I used to sleep through Rolfing, which you don't
do because people can't sleep because it's too,
but I would give into the process and it would
help me deal with well over a hundred severe
injuries I've had from being a fighting martial
artist. And what I didn't know was on the 10th,
this was her 10th session for me, or my 189th
time I've been Ralphed, and she was doing the,
they do the middle of the body in that session.
And since I was sleeping, she always lamented
that I didn't give feedback as I was sleeping,
and that's not normal during Ralphing, and sleeping
is not normal. But she manually ruptured my appendix.
Now it's 2009, and I was at home with it for
three days. I thought it was food poisoning.
By the time I went to the hospital, I said, you're
gonna have to catheter me because I haven't been
able to pee for six hours. So in the middle of
the emergency room on a Friday night with my
family standing around, they just cathetered
me and I peed two gallons. And they said, now
you need to take out my appendix. And they said.
Why do you say that?" I said, "'Cause Rolfer
was Rolfering me. You probably don't know what
that is." And she manually ruptured my appendix.
And I'd been sitting at home with it thinking
it was food poisoning. I only came to the hospital
because I couldn't be for six hours, but now
I can tell you it's my appendix. And they said,
we don't think so because you couldn't talk right
now if it was your appendix ruptured three days
ago. And I said, well, I have a very high pain
threshold. But that's a different story for another
time. They came back with the iron test and said,
okay, it is ruptured, but we think it's a minor
clean out. That half hour clean out that they
projected was a six hour clean out of full blown
peritonitis. And on the third day of recovery,
they medicated me and I flatlined. They over
medicated me basically. And I had a premonition
they were going to and they did. And then I flatlined
and then in that space, I basically saw the end
of the world in 2023. This was 2009. And I see
this end of the world and it basically I get
a message, you know at that time It's either
gonna be the end of all things as you know it
or a new beginning that's gonna be grand to the
world you've been given this information to do
a lot more with it and you're just sitting on
your Your backside waiting for something to happen.
You're gonna have to get out there now and make
this happen. So that was 2009 after that I was
told in dreams and so forth that i'll not have
anymore near death experiences this time to just
take this information and make sure i get the
masses so that became source living. Add a test
market app that was on apple and android for
about a year. Put all my own money into it put
it out there and it was there was over a hundred
thousand sign ups in three months and i couldn't
maintain it because you need a whole team you
need to be like. prepared to be like a Silicon
Valley company and I wasn't, that was a one -man
show with a hired team. So I brought it out as
Source Living and it was, people were epically
transforming for just watching and listening
to these videos. That 3000 principles from 12
near -death experience turned into this app,
which turned into 300 principles because even
that wasn't manageable. And I couldn't manage
the app company, although it was doing very well.
I closed it in 2018. In 2019, I reopened it as
Formula 4 protocol. That had the same level of
success, but it had scaled down to only 100 principles
of this core information that I was living off
of. And I say living off it, the thing that always
distresses me about people giving ideas, information,
advice, input on self -help, self -improvement,
mindfulness, near -death experiences, whatever,
was that they couldn't walk the same talk. And
that really bothered me. But I was applying all
these principles, and my life was exponentially
moving upward. And everybody that was getting
it was having these epic transformations. And
they could make videos and talk about it. And
those videos are now... on the internet so that's
something of great gratification but it's also
reinforcement of me having to accelerate my purposes
which is why i'm now doing this circuit of great
shows like yourself. Okay i want to hear more
about your childhood indies but i had just one
quick question first what happened when in twenty
twenty three the earth didn't end or the world
didn't end like you had the premonition of. Well,
the premonition wasn't that the world would end
the premonition was actually a full blown I've
actually Drawn out what it looked like the the
world Basically a lot of destruction in the world.
It said it's clear It says you and people like
you with information like this we'll have to
go out and do this work now because at 2023 will
be this inflection where it will be the end of
all things as we know it or the beginning of
a great new world, which I think we hit in 2023.
And it just, if you look at the transitions of
things that are happening now, there's a lot
of battling going on, but there's also a lot
of great things happening as well. And I think
that's going to result in. just a better world.
So I wasn't given the responsibility of preventing
the world from destroying itself. Those wheels
have been set in motion by much more powerful
forces than, you know, lowly Greg Halpern. Well,
and you had said that it was going to be one
or the other, the end or this new beginning.
I hadn't personally seen the new beginning, so
I assumed the other, but you have. And that's
super interesting. And I love that positive outlook
because it seems like there's so much bad news
out there today. So the fact that we are headed
in a newer, maybe more right direction, that's
great news. I don't want to stick there, though.
I want to go back to your first NDE when you
were five years old. Tell us a little bit about
that. I was the beneficiary of a tonsillectomy.
At that time, you go to the doctor with a sore
throat for more than three or four times. They
say time to get those tonsils out and the adenoids
too. I guess I don't know if that's the same
thing or part of the same assembly. Anyway, I
got the tonsils out and the second night at home
at midnight, I remember my mom would start shaking
me and I remember really well. I mean, the thing
about my whole life is very profound. I have
this Some people call this a photographic memory.
I just call it a permanent memory of all the
things that I experienced in my life. Well, I
remember my mom shaking me like this by my upper
body, Greg, Greg, get up. And I was thinking,
no, no, I don't want to get up. This is going
to work. And what she was referring to is she
came on to check me for a second time that night
before she went to bed and my whole pillow was
red and blood was coming out. So it was just
rolling out and She started screaming for my
father and then a heartbeat. I'm in his car eight
minutes to the hospital by a normal ride to the
Highland Park hospital, but he probably got there
in four. I had a bowl on my lap and I was just
like this and the blood was just coming out.
And I had about maybe three cups. They said three
cups of blood. And it was going like waves back
and forth. Cause you know, we just sat in the
seat. We didn't have belts or anything. So we
get to the hospital now we're talking about this
is 1963 and The doctor meets us at the emergency
exit and he rushes me in from a chair to a gurney
into an operating room Sticks me on the gurney
and wraps me up like a mummy with this sheet
on a roll never seen anything like it before
or since a sheet on a roll he goes like this
and I'm like this and all the sticking out of
my head He takes now keep in mind all I can smell
is iron from blood He takes what looks like a
paint roller's pen, sticks it right next to my
head, dumps a giant bottle of iodine solution
in it, empties the whole bottle, then takes a
sponge that I can only describe as a loofah,
puts it in there, then takes the tongs like you
flip a burger on a grill and he's playing with
it, getting it nice and soaked up. Then he tells
my dad it looks like he's about to pass out because
my dad did not like the sight of blood. And I
was like, if you guys will just leave me alone,
this is going to work, I can check out now, you
know? And that's what I was thinking of myself.
But by this time I was so far past it, you know,
just the smells were making me nauseous. He takes
the sponge and he tells my dad, hold his mouth
open and don't let him move. So he sticks this
giant sponge down my throat and he says, you
can count sheep if you want. So I started counting.
I remember getting to 14 in my head at least.
And that was it. I went to completely fade out,
you know, like in a movie fade to black. And
then there's this light. and it's this room of
light or the space of light. I could call it
a room, but there was no boundaries on it. So
I'm just sitting there and I'm aware that I'm
in the light. And I get a voice talking to me,
you know, a low voice, my imaginary vision of
God maybe. And the voice says, you got to go
back and don't be coming around here anymore
because there's work to do. And he's like, work?
What work? And I wake up and it's two days later
and I'm in my bed and there's a stack of cards
from my kindergarten classmates, apparently wishing
me to get well, but I still have. And my mom
is waiting there, apparently been waiting for
hours for me to wake up. And she said, do you
want jello or ice cream? And that was so funny
to me. I just started laughing. And I couldn't
laugh too loud because it hurt my throat. I just
thought that was so funny, and what I didn't
realize was I had just received this gift of
a sense of humor. It was so extreme that everything
that people would say, I would find humor in
it, even no matter how dark it was or negative
or positive. It didn't matter. Going a week forward
after that, when I went back to school finally,
if I had any friends around, I'd just break into
faces. until they were in hysterics. I was like
Jim Carrey, you know, like imagine Jim Carrey
as a child making faces. So I was like that and
I would just go on and on and on and once I got
people into the laugh, I would just keep going,
you know, and this would go on forever. And I
became this, like he's the funniest kid. There's
no reason why he's the funniest kid, he's just
funny. Just watch him, listen to him. And I'd
become clever and I would say funny things and
I would twist words around and make new languages
and people would, you know, find this amusing.
So I thought, well, this is this huge gift. I
wanted to check out and now I'm just immersed
in comedy. I'm funny. And everybody thinks I'm
funny. And it makes me feel good to laugh and
it makes me feel good to make them laugh. That
was what the first near -death experience that
I went through was all about. How strange that
that voice in addition to telling you to go back
said, don't come back here again. I mean, that
seems kind of funny right there, especially since
you did go back a number of times after you disobedient
little boy. Yeah. Well, that's so true. And I
got to thinking that, you know, what is that
all about? Really? You know, if I keep coming
back, as you say, don't come back. Well, that
wore out after a while. It changed to you're
doing better. Stay on track. Do more of this.
It's working, even though you don't see it now.
Like, okay, good. You know, and I really, I didn't
see myself making it past 20. And then when I
got to 20, I had my nightmare death experience.
I was tackled on a flight of stairs from behind
and I woke up in the hospital three days later
from a coma with all the discs in my low back
disintegrating over the next two years and a
myriad of health problems that would make just
about anybody that I've ever met pray to die
pretty quick. So at that point, I just gave into
it. I said well there's got to be a reason for
this because nobody would go through this if
there wasn't there better be a reason you know
that's all I'm saying well there always is these
experiences aren't for entertainment value there's
always a reason I believe and always something
to learn from them uh let's hear about your one
at seven years old well this is of course now
we're at 1965 so I'm uh really living it up.
I'm in the back of my grandparents' new Sedan
de Vil Cadillac and this is just a great thing.
But you know we're jumping around in the backseat,
me and my sister, because Rolling Stones can't
get no satisfactions playing. And I think the
single just came out and it was sound great.
My grandfather would always play the good popular
tunes. He got a kick out of them, especially
the Beatles' Hello Goodbye. He liked to sing
along with it because it sounds ridiculous. All
of a sudden, they were going 75. I'm looking
at the speedometer from the back seat, because
I'm in the middle between the two seats. And
then I'm sitting back, and then I'm jumping up,
and then I'm doing the music. And I'm playing
with my lap belt. The lap belt was an option.
We call it a seat belt, but it was called an
optional lap belt on that car. And I'm clicking
it on, off, on, off. And then I believe it was
right after I clicked it on the car. turned into
the silver guard rail. It was very heavy traffic.
We were driving to a pool party in the July summer
of 65, and we drive into that little silver metal
guard rail that was in the center, and the car
goes up and over it, flips upside down, and lands
upside down on the other side with the roof caving
in, and the car being hit going round and round
and round, being hit by six cars going 75 in
the other direction. Well, what we didn't know
was that a 14 year old girl, you know This comes
under the category of you can't make this up,
you know, a 14 year old girl had waited For her
parents to go out of town and her babysitter
to fall asleep from will met, Illinois To get
into her father's favorite little sports car
an mg midget if you don't remember this car But
it was oh, yeah a go -kart with a body and she
wanted to drive it and she did and she got on
the highway somehow driving it a stick shift
and had the car at full speed because she lost
control of it going straight under the back end
of our Cadillac now my grandmother was driving
never saw it because you wouldn't see it the
car is too little and too low and drove under
the bit end of the biggest one of the biggest
cars on the road at the time because she did
this and the car was literally crushed to a sardine
can on the other side of the highway and when
all this stopped i was just going through my
light my light space and I get the voice. I told
you to stop looking around in here. Don't be
looking around in here. You're going to be okay,
but don't come back here. Go back and do the
work. And then I look to my hand. I'm starting
to come to my surroundings, but I don't know
that I am. And I have two lines on here on my
hand. You can't barely see them anymore. But
what was happening was there was looks like a
glass dagger was stuck in my hand going in here
and coming out here. It was embedded in there.
It was longer than my hand. Of course, I had
a small hand. But the light was reflecting through
a crack in the summer sun through the car and
was reflecting off. And it looked like the prism
filter on Pink Floyd Duck's Side of the Moon,
if you know what that looks like, that prism
thing. And I'm thinking, wow, this is fascinating.
But I feel like I've just been in an accident
at Riverview. Now, for those that don't know,
Riverview was like a great America. It was a
Disneyland, if you will. But it all they had
was roller coasters that had notoriously had
accidents where people died. It was eventually
closed because it was too much liability. But
I thought I was on one of those roller coaster
rides. and i'm looking at this glass with fascination
but thinking man i'm really nauseous the belt
was off it looked like it had either snapped
off or broken off and i was laying in a crumpled
ball like this you know upside kind of upside
down uh that part is not as clear but what is
clear is i looked through the crack where the
sun was coming in and i see a head appear there
a little head of this girl who was the one who
caused the accident she was fine And traffic
had stopped for apparently for miles and she
looked in there and she says, is anybody okay
in there? I just started laughing to myself.
I didn't laugh out loud, but I, I don't know
if I laughed out loud, really. I just know I
was, this was really funny. Like, is anybody
okay in here? Why would a little girl who I couldn't
have imagined that she was the driver that caused
the accident, but where does this little girl
come from? And why is she asking if anybody's
okay? So I don't say anything. And then I hear
a big deep voice. A little lady stepped to the
side, please. And a fireman comes in and I can
see basically this part of his face. And he says,
is there anybody in there? If you are, please
call out. And I said, this is Greg and I'm calling
out and I'm very nauseous. I remember that real
well. I just remember the feeling of nausea.
He said, well, I need to know if anybody else
in there is hurt or okay. Can you tap anybody
and see? I said, well, they're not really moving.
He said, okay, we're gonna have to cut the car.
So now keep in mind this was about a Year before
they had shatter proof glass on cars where they
put polycarbonate in the glass front from shattering
So glass just went everywhere and I had the one
piece and then this was also about three months
as history tells us before they first used a
jaws of life to open up a crashed car So they
would use any kind of crazy tool they power tool
they could find to chop open a car to get people
out. Yeah I wanted to just check one quick thing
for those that weren't alive back then there
were lap belts in some cars there were no shoulder
belts and nobody wore them there were no seat
belt laws nobody wore them. So it was normal
for you to just be playing around back there.
We used to stand up in the front seat of the
car. I mean, things like that. It's just how
it was back then. That's right. And parents might
say if they were really ambitious, they might
say, you need to sit on and shut up now. Yeah,
that'll keep you safe. But he said, you know,
is there he said, I'm going to need you to cover
your eyes and it might you might feel some stinging
from the. the saw, but you need to keep them
closed and covered. And if anybody else is there,
you need to try to shield them any way you can.
He said, okay, we're going to use this saw now.
And then I heard a generator go on. And then
I heard a circular saw go on. And then I heard
metal crunching and through my hands covered
like this, just kind of, you know, peeking a
couple of times, sparks were flying all over
the place. And that went on for. As far as I
can remember, it seems like five to 10 minutes,
but it was a long time. And then they were able
to finally crowbar the thing space and get everybody
out of there. I don't know how they did it. Now,
a long time later, about a month later, my grandfather
needed to get his insurance card and his license.
And he had left it in the, he always had his
wallet in the glove box. So we had to go to the
junkyard and get it. So I have a picture of the
car and it is just trash. They told us there's
no way anybody's gonna live from this. When we
approached the car, we knew everybody in there
was dead. So was your family okay? They all had
a fractured neck vertebrae, the three of them.
My sister and my friends. But they lived a normal
life after that. I just had the glass in my hand.
And it stayed there until we got to the hospital.
They removed it and put in three stitches here.
It's there today. It's a very clear reminder
of it. something that is still very clear to
me. So this voice that you heard during various
NDEs, tell me about it. Was it the same voice
every time and what did it sound like? Well,
it sounded like how I would describe, you know,
God or a supreme being or one of his helpers
or, you know, as a deep voice. Something kind
of like what my voice has turned into. It's not
my voice for sure. It's a deeper voice, deeper
throatier voice. that was somehow soothing, even
though it started out disciplinary and later
it fluctuated between different assignments,
if you will. What emotions did it leave you with?
Well, after that second experience in the car,
I just received this love for all things. It
was like endless gratitude. I no longer saw things
just, you know, there's a car, there's my father,
there's my neighbor friend, there's my teacher.
I just had love for everybody. That and this
sense of humor, all these gifts, I call them
gifts, are ways that I live what I think is a
great life. Years later, I wrote a book called
Ten Days to Live about a fellow that was not
supposed to make it more than 10 days because
he had... three twenty over one ninety hypertension
when there was no medicine treat the disease
in forty nine it was endorsed by a guy named
norman cousins he wrote a book called anatomy
of an illness that i read years later and became
familiar with them in the eighties. And he won
a honorary medical degree from harvard for laughing
himself well. You left himself well love it so
that gift and the gift of having endless gratitude.
You know, there's an old saying that if you want
to be wealthy and prosperous, you have to understand
how wealthy and prosperous you are already. So
you have to be able to take stock and inventory
of the things in your life that you wanted, liked
and loved that you now have that make your life
better. And you have to be able to reflect that.
And that's what gives you hope. That's what gives
you desire. That's what gives you the passion
for living. But I say it all comes from the heart,
which they now know is its own energy center,
like the mind. The core work of what I received,
this knowledge on my 12th, talks about a language
called the positive affirmative language. And
it says that if everything you say has only the
positive elements, not the natural counterpart
negative elements, and if you're thinking those
things, feeling those things, believing those
things, speaking those things, then you can receive
those things that you want like in love. And
so it's a whole body of work that becomes its
own language. And I have to believe that if,
you know, I'm talking to these experiences to
God or God's helpers or whatever, that this body
of wisdom is there and they want people on earth
today to be able to get that information and
use it for a better experience at a higher level,
if you will, without having to learn a bunch
of stuff. And that's, I think, the core of this
information that I was receiving. I must have
been receiving it having gratitude. I once thought
that my second grade teacher in second grade
did not like me, even though I was an A student
my whole life, having seemingly done no work.
and just shown up, but still got all great grades.
She wrote a letter that I found about a year
ago when I was visiting with my mom. She had
saved it from second grade to my parents. And
it just, it just talks about me in such a way
that if you were to read it, you would say this
kid is going places because he has a great attitude
and he is open and he learns quickly and he's
helping make everything better. So that's what
I took from those experiences and it became about,
you know, at 30, I stopped asking why am I here?
And I started behaving why I'm here to do good
things and do good work and to live a good life
and to help people any way I can. So between
your books, training, all kinds of other things
that you've done, I'm going to just let everybody
know if they want to learn more about that stuff,
patriotinnercircle .com, and we'll stick that
down in the show notes too. Leave us with one
last thought. Why should people have hope today?
Well, within the Patriot Inner Circle that you
just mentioned, this is my last effort now before
final retirement of You know, not living, but
from just trying to pass this information on
because it's been working and it's going to work
better and better. But I wrote a book in there
in three days, a 400 page book called semantics
and mechanics. And you can read the first hundred
pages, I think on Amazon Kindle and you can get
the first hundred pages along with 12 other.
gifts of things that are just given away freely
to everybody. And I would urge anybody that is
interested, really, if you're genuinely interested,
just sign up with an email and get the 12 free
downloads. And Semantics and Mechanics, the book
I wrote, the latest book I wrote within that
information, decodes everything down to what
our systems... You know how are they used to
keep us believing certain things and how can
we use our own horsepower our own intelligence
to get to the center of clarity for ourselves
and then use that to the greater good of whatever
it is we want to accomplish in our own contribution
to our lives and the lives of those that are
close to us so i guess that's that book semantics
and mechanics is my final piece will be a series
of those but the first book. It effectively achieves
and if somebody was to read those three hundred
pages on kindle around. Patriot inner circle
at the patriot point of superstore they would
be able to start to easily decode all what's
going on around them and have a lot of hope for.
The things they want to accomplish in life and
the good they want to do by giving them tools.
That i guess in closing i could say that i was
on a show. entrepreneurs on fire about five years
ago. And he has some very strange questions that
I'd never heard. One of the questions is, what
do you say to people that say, well, I didn't
have this background or I didn't have that background.
And this sort of thing really applies here and
maybe some meaningful way to close this. And
that is that I said, you know, people aren't
the reason they're not successful. I think has
very little to do with. Having a lot of challenges
to overcome because although i've had a lot of
challenges that's part of my journey most people.
Don't have an anecdotal story you know they don't
have a lot of challenges that get them. To overcome
and overcome and overcome and so finally they
just rise above and now they're selling that
whole idea other people. I believe that the reason
is, is that most people that have these challenges
in life don't really overcome their challenges.
They pass them on from generation to generation
after saying, I won't be like my parents, or
I won't make those mistakes. They tend to do
much the same things, but in much the same place.
And the exceptions are just at the exceptions.
I think the missing element is the decoding of
all information. How do things really work? The
awareness and clarity to understand the... situations
and the chaoses you're revolving in and have
the hope but have the tools, most importantly,
to rise above and project through it and do real
good for yourself that you can see, as we said
in one of the advertisements, there's no learning
curve, just watch and listen. So in Semantics
and Mechanics, my closing opus, it shows how
things are worded to create chaos, to create
difficulty, to create struggle for most people.
And this decodes all that. so that the mechanics
can be not the mechanics you live by, you can
make your own mechanics. And the real power of
a person is the realization that they have the
power within themself. That's what wakes the
whole thing up. Most of my information, you would
hear it, you would say, well, gee, I already
know that to be true, or, you know, boy, that's
a great point. I've often thought that way. But
now that you put it in those words, it's very
easy to succeed. And in those words now, I can
actually take it into my life and do something
with it. Otherwise, why is it worth something,
right? Yeah, it's great when we have those kinds
of things happen. It's sort of those light bulb
on moments. I think there's so much that we already
know, but it doesn't come to the surface often
enough. And you're helping some of that happen.
Anyway, Greg, I've got to let you go. Thank you
so much for your time and all your insights today.
It's been a good fun. It's been my pleasure.
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