From the time that they pronounced me that was
a good 45 minutes They cut my clothes and then
they paddled my heart my heart stopped and I
could see people screaming and crying But I didn't
realize that was actually my physical body because
I was somewhere else The only thing that I could
feel if you can imagine Absolute love and peace
there wasn't anything else to be felt. I was
greeted by people I'd known in the past I'm back
home again. Incredibly safe and felt at home.
Welcome, welcome to Round Trip Death, everybody.
And we have a very special guest today that we're
going to learn a ton from. And that's Sally Reed.
Good morning, Sally. Good morning. Thanks for
having me. You're so welcome. I'm glad to have
you on. We've worked a while to get this set
up and today's finally the day. So here we go.
And I know we had some issues with different
different time zones. And that's OK. We've got
it figured out now. So we're we're really grateful
to have you. And before we jump into your two
near death experiences, will you take just a
minute and tell us a little bit about Sally?
We don't need a full life history, but just so
people can get to know you a little bit. Sure
enough. I'm Sally. I am a woman of a certain
age and I've been alive since the decade was
five. And so I've been alive for a little bit.
I've always felt like I didn't quite fit. There
was something apart and separate. And so it was
one of those picky or pick a career kind of people.
So I have been everything from chief dog catcher
of a metro Atlanta county. to exercise horse,
race horse rider. I've been a swamp tech where
I had to avoid copperheads and cotton mouths.
I worked in factories. I've been phone worked
on the phone, like being a secretary and stuff
on the phone, calling and setting up stuff. I've
even done voiceovers, but I didn't settle until
I really, really embraced everything that I learned
during my second NDE. It took me, I mean, it's
like I kept getting knocked from career to career,
wrote for the newspaper, you name it, I've done
it. That's a good tease right there of things
to come. I'm just curious, of all those different
jobs, are there any that you would say, hey,
I recommend someone try this or oh, do not do
the swamp thing? The swamp was actually really
fun. I mean, imagine this, you're rolling out
of bed, it's summertime in Georgia, and you know,
the cicadas are screaming and all. And the first
thing you do is back a Boston whaler into the
Savannah River and roll down the river to your
test plot. The sun is just rising, there's steam
coming off the river. It's gorgeous. It was beautiful.
Yeah, every once in a while you step in the wrong
place and you're like this deep in water, but
the rest of it's okay. You know, except for the
radioactive part. I was at this river plant and
we were testing for radioactive changes in the
plants and animals of the area. That's literally
what the job was. The good and the bad about
the job. Yeah, really. And you glow in the dark
now and that's the good side of it. You're your
own nightlight. I really did get lit up a few
times. I did. Let's jump back in history. Back
to those early early years. You were telling
me something earlier that I find fascinating
and I'm not sure what to do with this. And that
is that you can remember things from when you
were very very young. Give us a little explanation
because that background matters on your first
NDE. It does. And silly me you know like if you
don't know any different you think everybody
else is the same. What i do remember the moment
in time. When language went from you know just
let me know charlie brown type noises to actual
words it's like almost a click and that happens
around seven months i don't hold i was at the
time cuz you know i couldn't do chronological
time but. It was very odd to be able to understand
language and then struggled to be able to speak.
And that's what that talking is that babies are
doing. They're trying to talk. So when you talk
back to them and show them the sounds that they're
making, it actually helps for them to learn.
Another thing I remember is figuring out how
to, to cruise, they call it, you know, to how
to stand up enough to grab onto the couch. And
it was a 1950s pink couch. I do remember that.
So that stage of going from crawling to standing
up and eventually to walking. I do. And that
moment of letting go and then going to the chair,
I remember this. It is so bizarre. Because I
wanted to avoid sitting down hard or falling
over and hitting my head. Because we learned
through pain, right? It was a lot to understand
that most people can't remember that kind of
thing. No, I know that I can't It's funny you
bring that up because this afternoon I'm gonna
be watching my granddaughter who happens to be
exactly in that phase right now so what is she
gonna be thinking when she's standing up and
she's going oh, I can't get over there yet, but
Am I scared am I excited what's going through
her brain? She's in discovery mode and for me
personally I had a running commentary in my head
with, what if I did this? What if I did that?
I wonder what this is? Does it taste good? It's
all questions of what and just full discovery
like this, like almost as vacuum cleaner of a
brain. Like, what is that thing? What is this
thing? It's so curiosity driven and you'll notice
that her attention will go From new thing to
new thing if you make something new appear to
her. She can't help it. She has to go to it It's
really fun. And I do remember that just driving
curiosity Yeah, I took her with me to Costco
last week and I thought she was gonna get whiplash
just Looking at everything. Anyway, we are so
far off topic. I apologize listeners Let's get
to this you were about three years old when the
first experience happened Tell us what was going
on what led up to it well, I was to have surgery
as a three -year -old in the early 1960s and
At the time they used ether on children they
didn't have the intubation that they do now and
evidently they must have given me too much and
I I stop breathing. The first thing I remember
in this, very classic to your listeners, is being
above the scene and looking down. Like all very
curious children, I was like, what are they doing
to that little girl? I was looking at them. Other
listeners may have said the same thing, I don't
know. Then the next thing you know is the pull
to the light. It's almost a physical pull to
the light. And I do remember that going into
the light and I remember the feeling of being
safe and warm and protected and loved, you know,
that feeling of belonging. It just felt so great.
And then I remember being in the room, you know,
with my grandmother who had passed away probably
20 years before. That grandmother was there and
she was telling me how happy she was to meet
me and was telling me about the place and how
it wasn't my time. And I do remember going, no,
I want to stay. And she said, no, no, you have
to go. Your mommy needs you. And I'm like, no,
she doesn't. I do remember arguing with her.
And then of course, the next thing I know is
I've woken up from the anesthesia and I'm in
the hospital bed and I told telling the nurse
about it. And she was, yeah, sure. That happens.
You know, it's funny because back then, 1950s,
60s, whenever this was, this wasn't a topic that
was talked about much. Most adults didn't dare
tell the nurse or doctor, or if they did, they
were told, don't talk about it. You're going
to end up upstairs in the psych ward. With a
three year old, I wonder if she totally believed
it or just thought it was, Oh, what a cute imagination
or I don't know, but I'm glad that she didn't
try to squash those memories or, or what you
were telling her. No, she totally believed me.
Now, my mother, no, my mother did not. She stopped
that thing cold, but this nurse is she, she talked
to me like, well, of course that's what happened.
That's really cool. We had a few months back
we had on the show Dr. Melvin Morse who's a pediatrician
in Seattle and has studied NDEs in children.
What he does in addition to having them explain
what happened to them is he gives them paper
and crayons and lets them color. Did you have
a chance to do any of that? I do remember having
paper and crayons and coloring but I didn't really
color about, oh boy, you have no idea how much
it got shut down whenever I talk about grandma,
because it was my mother's mom and she had passed
away, right? So I did get shut down. Cause I
do remember later on, I think I was like five,
having a conversation with her while I was outside
playing in the sandbox. And I came in and told
my mother about it and that did not go over well.
So you probably didn't feel like you could color
it either or you were gonna kind of be in trouble
It was like don't talk about it. Don't think
about isn't not good This you get in trouble.
Don't you know every kid knows this you tend
not to do the things that get you in trouble.
Yeah Were there any other details that you remember
from that? I Remember we were sitting in Kind
of a sunroom like I was not allowed to go fully
into the garden I couldn't go actually in there.
Grandma had me in this room, and I was like all
toddlers do, wandering around the room, picking
up things and looking at things. Then she called
me in and had me sit on her lap, and that's when
she told me I had to go. That is something I
do remember. She pulled me in, and I barely got
my, you know, the temper tantrum was going to
start. Boom, I was gone. It was so instantaneous.
Boom, boom. Just like arrival was, it was, I
couldn't have avoided arriving. It was almost
like suctioned up. And I don't know if other
people have talked about that. There was no choice
about it at the time you were going. Well, most
people are actually given a choice. I was on
the second one. Yes. Although some people have
to be talked into it. Now you being a child that
might make it kind of a different sort of situation.
And a lot of people remember being put back into
their bodies and can describe that feeling very
clearly. My second one was very, very different.
All right, we'll be there in just a minute. I
have one more question before we move on to that.
And that is, this set you apart from other children.
Most children have not had an experience like
this. So as a four -year -old, six -year -old,
ten -year -old teenager, In what ways do you
think you were different than the other kids?
Well, one of the things that I noticed is I had
a very keen sense of discernment that other people
didn't seem to have. The bullshit meter was off.
I could almost see the waves in people's speech.
Another thing that was really different is, you
know, like when the phone would ring, I would
know who would be on it. Like the phone would
be ringing like, mommy, so -and -so was calling.
And she said, well, answer the phone. No. I'm
like, why are you not answering the phone? Kind
of a thing. That was different. My sisters, they
would tease me about a lot of stuff. And so I
would spend a lot of time like outside. because
you know the veil where you can jump in and out.
I could step out of my body. And so I guess people
call that astral projection. But I was very good
at escaping. I since stopped doing that because
evidently that's not good for you. Don't do that.
But I think those are some of the effects of
having passed away so young that the psychic
ability was off the chain, but it was also not
discussed or accepted. where I was so I sort
of you know spent a lot of time masking as if
I were like autistic or something you know had
to do a lot of masking. That's the main thing
that that felt very different. So with your mother
who didn't want you to talk about this is that
because of some kind of religious background
that she had or did she just think you were making
it up? What was her deal? I don't know. And that's
the true story. I have no clue. Okay. My mother
was raised Catholic and my father was raised
Jewish. And so we of course were Protestant.
I have no clue how that happened. But they, I
mean, we went to church every week. Mother sang
in the choir. Dad was one of the deacons. You
know, he was really super involved, but he was
Presbyterian. And that's not usually a very vociferous.
religion. I don't know her motivation. I don't
know, but I do think it had something to do with
the fact that I spoke about her mother in such
a way as if I had known her. And I think that
was very emotionally uncomfortable for her because
she lost her mother when she was 14 and was forced
to become the mother of her younger siblings.
I can see how that could be difficult. Could
also be comforting for some people To know that
mother's okay and is there but but we're all
different and have emotions all over the place
All right. We're gonna fast forward to about
1999. Tell me what's going on then One of those
jobs that I used to have was a horse trainer,
right? I used to gallop race horses But I also
started horses and rode horses that were bad
for Bronx, you know I was working with a horse
that I mean, technical term was he was a shit.
And he was a very smart one. And so while I was
dismounting, he scooted out from underneath me
and I flipped over backwards and landed in such
a way that I broke three vertebrae in my neck.
I mean, crack, crack, crack. And it was C3, four
and five. And if you know your anatomy, if those
vertebrae are disrupted, you have pressure on
the nerves that help you have your diaphragm
moving. So if you're unconscious and your diaphragm's
not moving, technically you die. It's just guaranteed,
you know, check. And so that's what happened.
And again, this one was funny. I got out of the
body, you know, it was like, oh man. And then
I looked, ah, shit, not again. It was like the
first thing I said. It was like, oh man, I did
it again. I thought you were going to be excited
to go back. I had the time I had two kids in
elementary school. One was in kindergarten, one
was in first grade. So they were babies. They
needed their mommy. I had a six -year -old and
a seven -year -old. The funny thing about it
is when I looked down at my body, I was able
to just say, oh, man, and begin to move in the
direction I knew I was supposed to move in, right?
And as I was walking through the barn, because
That was where the light was at the end of the
barn as I was walking through the barn I told
you that I looked at the clock. It's hilarious.
I did look up at the clocks and it's like 147
and When I got to the end of the the light and
I stepped into the light That's when all the
choices started coming. You know, you have this
choice you you can stay here or you can move
forward and and it's sort of like the bargaining
started having it was like if If you want to
go back, then you have to do what you agreed
to do." And I'm like, I agreed to do something?
That's news to me. You know, I'm arguing with
them. Them, right? And they're saying, well,
yes, you have to go back and you have to teach
the people and you have to let the people know
the truth. And I'm like, the truth about what?
And I just argued with them until finally, As
I was going to say, well, forget the whole business.
Then I remembered how painful it would be for
my children. I knew that the children needed
me, but I really didn't want to do that thing
that they wanted me to do. Like, which is worse?
The pain it will be for the children or the pain
it will be for me? And what did a mother choose?
I'll take the pain. I got to go back to the kids.
As I was moving into my body, I could feel dread
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be a hard life. You know, I just didn't want
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the miracle really happens. Okay, so I got up.
I had broken my arm and I had broken my neck
in three places. C4 was actually broken through
the foramen, like in half broken, right? But
I got up and I went and got that horse and I
took his saddle and bridle off and I put him
in his stall with a broken arm. Then I went and
I wrapped the broken arm with a wooden spoon
and an ace bandage. So it was snapped at the
ulna and radius at my wrist. And then I waited
for the children to come home and I gave them
their snacks. Yes, I had a ferocious headache.
Yes, I was having like, ooh, I'm not really here
moments, you know, like after a body is really,
the inflammation was really hitting and there
was a lot of pressure in my skull. And then I
drove myself to the hospital after my husband
came home. And let's jump to the serious miracle.
The fact that It felt like somebody was holding
my neck together, literally. Then the serious
miracle is a year and a half later I got another
x -ray on my neck just to check to see how it's
healing and there was literally no evidence had
it ever been broken. It was like none. It was
healed completely. And they had done nothing
but stick a neck brace on me and put cast material
around it. Because at the time the doctor was
too freaked out. You know that movie Death Becomes
Her? He was having one of those moments in his
office, but he'd be like looking at the MRI of
my neck and then looking at me and going, how
are you still breathing? And he did get quite
upset there for a minute. Upset at you because
you didn't come in sooner in an ambulance or
what was he upset about? He was upset because
I was still breathing and he was frightened.
Okay. He couldn't figure out how I was still
alive, presented to him in this office. So it
just didn't make sense to him. So as a doctor,
it's like, I don't get it. And I'm supposed to
understand everything therefore. Yeah, that's
it. Exactly. He kept yelling like, how are you
still breathing? I'm like, I'm clearly breathing.
I have a headache. Please don't yell at me anymore.
It was. Frightening and then because of that
and the weight of you have to do what we asked
you to do and Every time I tried to not do it
Our lives did not go my husband our lives did
not go well at all Because I did try to avoid
it for the longest time because it's been 26
years 27 let's get a little bit more detail on
this one Okay, you brought you brushed over the
NDE pretty quickly itself Are you seeing grandma
again? What are you feeling this time? I did
not see any I saw the people with the clipboards.
I don't know how to explain it, but the figures
with the clipboards I don't know if anybody has
ever talked to them about them. There are the
people who are there for your moment of choosing
You know that the time when you to see I'll take
that life Yeah, you know that moment of choosing
that I swear to goodness. There were three men
in clipboards You know, like tall figures. The
reason I call it the clipboards is like, they
feel like the deciders. They feel like the people
who are guiding. I don't know. They came back
years later and said that, you know, you are
to whatever. You are to do this thing and you
forgot we're making you do it. They did come
back and they still come back and advise. which
is interesting to help me. Yeah, it's a little
unusual. Do they have names? No, they're just
the council. Yeah, they're just the council.
Other people I've talked to know who I'm talking
to, what I'm talking about. It's like people
would have called them angels, but to me they
were just figures in sort of this dark atmospheric
thing. And the speaking wasn't, the voice was
inside. I mean, I didn't hear it with my ears.
I felt it. It was like, you have a choice. And
then they went through what I was supposed to
do. I'm still frightened. I can't speak about
it without crying because it's too intense. Like,
it still frightens me. I'm still avoiding it
at what they wanted me to do. But they did give
me quite a few things they wanted me to do back
in 2000. And I avoided it and ignored it. Is
there some of it you'd like to get off your chest
and talk about now? Well, 2004, you know, I told
you they came back to me more than once. They
have come back to me more than once. In 2004,
they came back to me and told me that I was to
warn about the war that was going to be happening
in 25 years. Everybody can do the math. That
means we're three years away, right? Yeah. And
I was supposed to warn about that war. I don't
know what to say to warn about it because I shut
it down. I'm like, who am I? What am I supposed
to do? This is not my area type of thing. And
so we agreed upon that I would teach what real
spirituality is instead. Because I have an understanding
of what Is it's not necessarily the truth, but
what is in alignment? Because it's a lot closer
to physics than it is religion. I'm just going
to say that right now. And so they they meaning
the council. I've never asked them their names
other than the council. You see how nervous I
am talking about this, right? They. They guide
me and they help me teach in a way like I. have
been given such profound truths by them that
have been echoed by other teachers like Buddha
and Jesus and other people. I've been given a
lot of truths like that. That's what I've allowed
myself to teach. I just wrote a book that is
with my editor. And we are not talking about
the truths, we're talking about a system that
helps people find their own truth. Because everybody
has to decide what their own truth is, because
that's essentially what spirituality is, is you
in relation to with your spirit and with the
rest of energy in general. A lot of people talk
to me about physics. And about frequency and
vibration and those kinds of things. Is there
any way that you can condense that into a good
little lesson for us? Certainly. When you combine
Newtonian physics with quantum mechanics, you
get this space in between. And that's the place
that all humans live. Meaning we understand gravity
in a physical understanding. We drop things,
they go down. But gravity... This force of gravity
in quantum mechanics is totally different. It
has an effect on how things flow, because gravity
is time -space. Gravity changes no matter where
you are in the world, where in our quote -unquote
human experience gravity is Newtonian. You drop
the apple, it hits the ground. And if you can
find that space in between time -space and what
we are truly Feeling physically that's where
spirituality lives Okay I'm not quite sure exactly
what to do with that, but I'm gonna let that
settle for a little bit for a minute Are there
any other details from that second experience
that you can remember that you want to talk about?
Things that you saw things that you felt Besides
the three. What did you call them council? They
were the council. Yeah. Yeah. What else did you
see and feel? I felt a lot of fear, which is
okay. First, there's the 1001, 1002, congratulations,
you're enlightened, you're dead. There's that,
I felt that. All the physical pain goes away,
all the emotion goes away, all the struggle goes
away, I felt that. But I felt so much fear and
resistance when they were explaining to me what
my task was to be. I don't ever remember agreeing
to this. It was that level of the arguing. I
remember that feeling of, how dare you put this
on me? But not really in a how dare you feeling,
because I didn't have the physical body for the
being indignant. But my soul was like, this is
such a burden. Do you not know what a burden
this is? You know, kind of a thing. So the task
you're talking about is spreading the word on
that war or something else? It was something
else entirely. They wanted me to stand up and
heal the people and tell the truth. Those were
their words. Heal the people and tell the truth.
And I told them, nope. And here's an interesting
thing. In 2006, I think it was. When the swine
flu was going around, do you remember that? Yeah.
I think that was six. Wasn't it six? I don't
know the year, but I remember the whole, yeah,
we were all worried about swine flu. We had never
heard of COVID -19 at that point. Yeah, it's
true. But I did catch the swine flu and I was
actively in pneumonia in my bed. The council
came to me and said, get up and go to the hospital.
You're dying. And I said, good. Back to them.
I was like, good, now I don't have to do what
you asked me to do. Because it had been ongoing.
They kept urging me to do what they wanted me
to do. And you are allowed to refuse. Many are
called, but not everybody answers. And I wasn't
going to answer, thank you very much. And I was
like, no, I'd rather die than do what you said.
And I said, I'm not going to do it. And they
said, OK, you don't have to. And I said, good.
And then they said, we'll take care of it. Evidently,
they're going to ask somebody else. That part,
I didn't matter. But probably two to three minutes
later, my daughter walked in. They sent help.
My daughter walked in the room. At the time,
she had a newly licensed driver. And she freaks
out, oh, mom, you're blue. You're not breathing.
And she threw me in the car and took me to the
hospital where they did all the things to help
me live. But I was ready that conversation in
my head with them is like good I Will go ahead
and step out for the third time just to avoid
What I felt was going to be the persecution the
ridicule that I would have gotten and I don't
know whether it was because of my early Experience
with my mother coming down on me so hard Whenever
I would speak what was really going on inside
of me or not. I don't know, but I did know that
I flat was not going to talk about the guys with
the clipboard. And here I am doing it, which
is really hilarious. It's okay. Only about a
hundred thousand people are going to hear you.
Okay, cool. Yeah. I mean, I still have access
to them and they still talk to me. Do you see
them, hear them, or get impressions from them?
All three. All three. Will you next time ask
them their names? Tell them I want to know. Okay,
cool. There was a time when we were watching
we my son and I were watching Michio Kaku on
the TV You know watching a TV show. This was
way back When they were still constantly in my
head arguing with me We were watching he was
talking about the the different strings He was
talking about string theory and he was talking
about 11 strings and how their strings and these
they were in my head Literally rolling around
on the floor laughing because he had gotten it
so wrong they were explaining to me in my head,
you know, like how there are nine strings and
what they were. And I wish I had written it all
down, but I do know that, okay, there's the first
dimension, the second dimension, third dimension.
We live in the third dimension. Then there's
the fourth dimension. The fourth dimension is
the space in between the space time and the continuation
of all that is, right? Those are the words that
I had for it as a kid. So I'm sorry. The fourth
dimension is where people see and hear and talk
to ghosts, right? And then there's the fifth
dimension, the sixth, seventh, eighth, and ninth.
And ninth, at that ninth level, that's the God
particle. That is the space where all intersect
and become one. And that's what they were explaining
to me. And this is the kind of information they
had all the time. And they still do if I sit
and connect with them again. They know stuff.
It's amazing what they know. Oh, they should.
Yeah, they should know everything pretty much.
I wanted to touch on just a couple of sort of
interesting things before we finish up here.
One is you mentioned feeling a lot of fear during
your NDE. That's a very unusual thing. Did you
also feel other emotions like love or guilt or
anything else? The fear was for my physical body
in the future. It wasn't in the space of moment,
you know, it was like it was anticipatory fear.
You know, like when somebody asks you to do something
that you know isn't going to be fun or pleasant,
it's that anticipatory dread fear. Did I feel
love? I felt relief. That was the first thing
I felt was, ah, thank you. Struggle over, thank
you, check. And, you know, off we go. And then
the next emotion I felt Was the piece it's that
What I call neutral and it's what I teach. It's
that it's that bliss of Not having enough not
having a down but being at zero point It's that
and a lot of people talk about the piece But
there is a way to achieve it in your physical
body if you get into neutral and we do achieve
it Whenever we fall in love. There's moments
of neutrality When we when we hold our child
for the first time That's a moment of neutrality.
You know, there are ways to achieve that. And
that's the zero point. It's where we have no
upper limit and we have no lower limit. We are
existing out of space and time. Make sense? Yeah,
because most people can't describe it that well.
And that's an interesting description. One of
the other things that I wanted to touch on is
I'm, I'm a huge believer in freedom of choice
or agency or whatever we want to call it. And
it's interesting how you used yours. You know,
sort of like we've got this mission for you.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not going
to do that. Most people seem in their NDEs only
experience it with a choice of coming back here
or not. And nearly everybody. except for you
as a child and a few others, are given a choice.
They sometimes say no at first, but then they're
talked into it, but it still becomes their choice
at some point. How do you feel about this whole
concept of agency? Oh, I believe in the agency
completely. You can remember that because of
the first NDE, I believe that I had a bleeding
of memories from previous lifetimes, deaths and
lives. According to my parents, I was very confused
about whether or not I was a boy or a girl, because
all my memories are of being a little boy, because
that's what I had been. I'm wondering in this
new day and age, would somebody have forced me
to live as a boy, because I'm a married woman
and I'm completely female now. But my early memories
were of being a little boy, and so I was identifying
as a little boy for some reason. I mean, my previous
lifetime. Was of a little boy and so there was
a lot of I wanted to play with the little boys,
you know I wanted to play army men with them.
I wanted to do little boy stuff and Then later
on they sort of forced me into becoming a girl
This is back in the days when girls had to wear
dresses to school and all those Other things
it wasn't you weren't allowed to wear pants.
It's hard to believe folks, but that was the
truth and There was a railroading of me becoming
a girl And me, you know, subconsciously fighting
again, I'm not a girl. But then later when puberty
hit, oh, of course I'm a girl. No problem. Sure.
I'll be a girl. I mean, painted fingernails and
all. I'm a girl. Yeah. Okay. Let's move on to
the next stage. And that is you learn so much
from all of this. How has it affected your life
since then you mentioned early on you'd been
through all these different careers now You're
finally settled on something Tell me how it's
all coming together for you well since 2010 I
have been helping first individually and Then
now in groups. I've been helping people sort
of make sense of their own journeys is the best
way to explain it everybody Guess a certain point
in their lives where they stop being a victim
of their life and they want to try to understand
some sort of agency over their lives. And there
are a million people out there teaching that
and some of them more successfully than others
you know like that i will say right now that
for many people that idea of taking it to make
it. Does backfire to me it is like trying to
paint over grease stains it will be through eventually.
And so what I do is I help people align with
who they are so they don't have to fake it till
they make it through a series of things that
the council taught me. And their whole thing
is they want people to make friends with themselves
so the world can be a friendlier place. In the
council's teachings, they're saying that 100
% of the problem with this world's War like behavior
and cruelty is that people don't feel Comfortable
or happy inside so they want to share how uncomfortable
and dissatisfied they are and Fearful they are
by hurting other people and so they're trying
to change it this way Sounds like you're at peace
with all that now. Oh, yeah, I can I can teach
But I did not want to be a prophet They literally
said the words you were to be like Ezekiel and
I know thank you I will not be Ezekiel if you
don't mind Do you ever think about the other
person that they gave all this responsibility
to since you turned it down? I Haven't heard
have you heard of them? No, but somebody somewhere
is probably in that situation going I don't know
what to do with this burden. We'll figure this
out Kind of a kind of a Moses type of person
here Yeah, I want to tell you something real
quick. I did try I went to go speak I went to
Jimmy Carter's 80th birthday party and I spoke
with Jimmy Carter's preacher from his church
and we had like a two -hour conversation on this
and I shared my information with him and So I
felt like job done I did it. He didn't curse
me, you know, Beelzebub or any of that. He didn't.
He just, you know, like I have a message and
here it is. And I sat and spoke with him for
like two hours. I didn't tell Mr. Carter I came
this close, but I thought since the preacher
and Mr. Carter were such very close friends that
he would speak. Yeah. Let it go through him.
Okay. How much fear of death do you have? Zero.
Nada. Zip. And if anyone wants to get a hold
of you, do you want to put something I put in
the show notes or something? How do people reach
out to you? Sure. I have a website. It's sallyreid
.com. I also have a TikTok and Instagram and
Facebook and they're all at blisslife underscore
coach. Blisslife coach. Okay. All right, Miss
Blisslife, I'm going to give you one minute to
leave us with some kind of a beautiful message
of hope today. Yeah, when I was helping my parents
and my husband's father pass away, the one thing
their soul was concerned about was the pain of
judgment. All of them. They were so terrified
of the pain of judgment. I can say number one,
it doesn't hurt. And number two, it's not a test.
It's more of a welcoming home and let us help
you understand what's next. Because as I called
it as a child, the next place, I did call the
next place. The next place is the place where
we get to understand. This place is where we
get to screw up. And the next place is the place
where you get to understand what's actually going
on. So if you've been searching your whole life
to figure out what's going on, you'll find out
in the next place. Beautifully said. Thank you,
Sally. Until we meet in the next place. Thanks
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