From the time that they pronounced me that was
a good 45 minutes They cut my clothes and then
they paddled my heart my heart stopped and I
could see people screaming and crying But I didn't
realize that was actually my physical body because
I was somewhere else The only thing that I could
feel if you can imagine Absolute love and peace
there wasn't anything else to be felt. I was
greeted by people I'd known in the past I'm back
home again. Incredibly safe and felt at home.
Welcome, welcome to Round Trip Death everybody.
We are going to have so much fun today. We're
going to the beautiful island of St. Thomas and
here's the big question that we're going to have
answered. What happens when an atheist has an
NDE and meets Someone that makes them question
everything they've thought was real in the past.
Here's our special guest Riley Courtright. How
are you Riley? I'm so good and better than I
could possibly have ever dreamt possible. Which
is so amazing since it was only what seven months
ago that you actually died. It's been seven months
this recent time. I've died twice in the last
18 months and boy did they fuel each other. Well
I'm glad you're having a fantastic morning and
you're making me smile so I really appreciate
that. Before we jump into your story which is
people are going to absolutely love this tell
us just a little bit about who Riley is or is
it Lily maybe we'll get to that at some point.
So I've always known myself as Riley. I'm a creative
at heart, ultimately, and a type B personality.
I've been a piercer for 10 years. I owned a studio.
And I think it's important to note that I was
raised by incredibly loving, kind parents, but
who never spoke about faith. I had one parent
that was very... very bluntly atheist and one
who did have a higher belief in a power. But
I was raised much closer to science than I ever
was religion. And I also have a genetic condition
called Ehlers -Danlos syndrome. So I had lost
a lot of... I had lost a lot. You know, I believed
that I wanted to want to believe in God. I'm
getting ahead of myself now, aren't I? It's okay.
It's okay. And by the way, this is, I think,
the first time you've really shared this publicly,
isn't it? It is. It really is. It is. It is.
It's interesting how connected and how complex,
right? But how truly connected it all is. I knew
that my genetics held a shorter lifespan from
the time that I was a young kid. So while I wanted
to want to believe in God, There was nothing
throughout my life to ever show me that that
was that that was real. And I was always really
healthy until I wasn't. And I started to get
sick at 28. I'm 35 now. And that is, I think,
really where everything kind of begins. OK, well,
let's do this. First of all, before we talked
the other day, I had never heard of EDS. Would
love to start sort of at the beginning if you
would give a very brief explanation of what it
is and by the way I did hit it hard on Google
since then But if you get a very give a very
brief explanation of what it is how it affected
you and how it led to these two incidents Sure.
Well, EDS is a connective tissue disorder. Your
connective tissue is what creates and supports
the collagen in your body, which is what keeps
your organs together. So I was always really
flexible as a kid in very unique ways, right?
Not realizing that my insides, my organs were
able to do that too. So there's many subtypes
of EDS. I have vascular EDS. which is fatal but
I do have complex hypermobile tendencies with
that and EDS is something that we think has been
around for a long time but hasn't been diagnosed
until recently truly because of how many you
really don't find out until autopsies right I
had always known I was gonna donate my body to
science my mom did the same thing because it
causes your body to to die from the inside out,
right? And my organs would fuse together, they
would just cease to function. I mean, all kinds
of things and there's no known cause, but it's
ultimately your connective tissue. Wasn't there
anything that medical science could do for it?
I was told that I wasn't eligible for an organ
transplant because it's a connective tissue disorder
that my body would basically destroy any new
organ that I got. So, you know, I would go into
kidney failure. They'd pull me out of kidney
failure and send me on my way. My heart would
stop at home. My husband would resuscitate me,
rush me to the hospital, and they'd say, come
back if it happens again. I was bleeding internally
so severely at one point. It was coming out of
my eyes and my ears and, you know, all they do
is they put me on more medications and they made
me a guinea pig and it's more testing. And what
they did was they took away my quality of life
because I ended up slowly and painfully dying,
right, in a wheelchair and on oxygen. I spent
more time in the hospital than I spent anywhere
else. But no, it was only when I decided to give
it all up that God came to my rescue. Okay, after
we talk about your NDEs, I want to talk just
a little bit, and I'm telling you this so you
remind me if I forget, a little bit about how
you've gotten so better over the last few months.
Replaced my heart and my lungs. I know that sounds
crazy, but like he even told me that. I mean,
and there's, there's no mistaking. There's no,
there is no... As an atheist, for example, my
brother is a nanoparticle physicist, right? And
so when you're raised close to the sciences,
you believe in the things that you can see and
touch and hear and smell. But let me tell you,
Eric, I smelled and tasted and saw God. So he
cured me. I still have a lot of physical therapy,
like, sure. But like, no, it was when I died
and came back to life. It was like overnight.
But yes, I'm sorry. See, now I'm I do like it.
This is, it's, I should just go away and let
you do your thing for an hour here. It'd be a
much better show. You were telling me you actually
went to St. Thomas to die, to have a great place
to die. I did. So after goodness. So the first
NDE I think was was confusing for me because
I hadn't been declared dead. It happened when
I was at home. I had just been sent from the
hospital of them basically saying, here's more
meds, there's really nothing we can do. Medicine
doesn't beat genetics. Man, both times I woke
up and I knew the day that was my last day. And
it didn't, it wasn't as like concerning as you
might think. I woke up to the most incredible
music and I can only describe it as a symphony
of orchestras harmonizing together and it was
harps and trumpets and violins and violas and
flutes and and so many of the instruments were
instruments that we don't have on earth and I
immediately woke my husband up to make sure that
he couldn't hear it to see if he could hear it
he couldn't and over the course of hours it became
deafening and it was so beautiful it was so intrinsic
and and captivating and you know dying is a funny
thing because it all sort of happens at once
right the moment that you realize your soul has
left your body and that you're not a body with
a soul rather a soul with the body right the
moment it leaves the music the colors that you
that you see it all happens so quick so i guess
it starts at home i had been in and out of consciousness
for days right because as you're dying you're
not coherent the whole time and I was down to
about a breath every four minutes. You know,
we had decided that I wanted to die at home and
not in a hospital, so I'm like peacefully in
my little meditation spot, but it was also a
spot that I could lay down and go peacefully,
right? And from the music, I guess, because the
music was the first thing, there was this incredibly
loud voice it was the voice of God and he asked
me what do I believe and it comes like there
is a megaphone right I mean except it's inside
your head it's so loud but in the most it not
in a loud way in a captivating way and it's calm
and it's deep and it's familiar You know, I say
that people who those those the people that believe
we're in a simulation like what I heard would
have driven them to the end because it I mean
it's And he started he starts talking to me I
Had been I like I said, I really wanted to believe
in a God But did I? Absolutely not, right? I
had tried to be a good person my whole life and
all I was met with was seeing terrible things
around me and people dying and questions with
no answers and, you know, terrible people who
great things happen to, right? My awareness of
it all just couldn't explain a God. So first
of all, what did you answer when you were asked
that question about what do you believe? That
I believed in the power of light and love. I
think the only thing that kept me from potentially
committing suicide years before you know because
I had lost from the time before I was 30 I had
lost my grandparents and cousins aunts uncles
both parents my first husband my best friend
right like while all the worst people I knew
were thriving right that really really gives
to you And dying gets to finding out that you
can try to be a good person and all you get is
the sickness, right? I'm so sorry, because now
I feel like I'm catty -cornering, walling myself.
I said I believed in the power of love. That's
really, that's what I said because with all the
people dying around me, I did. I wanted to believe
in God because I wanted to believe that they
were angels. After my first husband died, I could
have sworn I heard him talk to me once and he
said that my purpose was to bring more light
into the world and I took that and I ran with
it. So I said I believed in the power of light
and the power of love. From there it felt like
traveling. I think that's what people describe
as a tunnel, but it really felt like a wormhole,
like a cosmic wormhole, and it opened up into
this the most beautiful little box. It was pearlescent
and golden and filigreed and it opened up into
this blast of color that doesn't even exist to
the human naked eye. We can't even see a fraction
of that. And I got from there, you get this This
blast of what feels like telepathic answers and
this was another moment I definitely knew I was
dying right because I got to suddenly in the
blink of an eye learn everything about myself
my quirks my personality my character traits
my metaphorical gifts that you're given along
through life and if you've served your purpose
and what was making me so sick and You know,
it jumped into every other question I've ever
wondered. Do we have free will? Why do good things
happen to bad people? And why do kids get cancer?
And if old souls are real, and why does a song
get stuck in our head? And what is deja vu, right?
Like all of it, it all gets answered at the speed
of light. I got to see and talk to everybody
I knew who loved and died. And it was like a
Christmas carol because they each had something
different to teach me and to show me. And just
like that my husband said this train isn't for
you to get on and I came back and all of a sudden
my husband who I think in hindsight was experiencing
an SDE because he looked into some portal of
the fabric of the universe and heard something
that I heard because he said, do you want to
go to the hospital? It's not time for you to
get on that train yet. And so for a minute, I'm
like mind blown because I'm like, what did you
just say? Because like my dead husband just said
like the same thing to me, but I know you didn't
hear that. Right. And like, wait, was I sitting?
Was I conscious? And he's like, no, you hadn't
been breathing for almost six minutes. I thought
it was supposed to like. you go until I like
heard that I wasn't so we take me to the hospital
and then the music starts right because for days
all I could hear is music and the nurses the
nurses and the doctors they get you better until
until they send you back right because it's a
genetic fatal ailment with no cure and no real
treatment And God made it really clear that we
were supposed to come here, and when we tried
to fight that and decide we would spend the last
year of my life going out west, our barn burned
down and we got a single lightning strike to
our brand new RV. So God was like, no, no, you
go to St. Thomas. Very subtle. We've been here
now, which is beautiful. And it is hard to describe
the timing of how it all happened because when
I was in the hospital did come with a lot of
OBEs. I distinctly remember being overhead, you
know, and hearing the doctor tell my husband
to say his final goodbye and make sure that my
will was in order and that the dialysis didn't
seem to be working and that the CDC was also
monitoring my case because it's a rare ailment,
right? Like all these different things. And so
it is hard to know like this part happened when
I was unconscious at home and this part happened
when I was unconscious in the hospital, right?
But there was, there was such an influx of peace
and love. I had been in screaming pain for months,
and I mean literally screaming pain for months
with blood coming out of my eyes. And when you
go, like the actual dying process is beautiful
because it's this weightlessness that you can...
feel. It's this laying in a perfectly warm sun
patch, right? Like you can feel that overwhelming
amount of love. It was everything about how connected
we are and about how far off we've come because
of religion and science and it felt like I was
supposed to do more. But we moved to st. Thomas
and I was better right for a little bit But you're
still very aware that you're dying when you're
actually sick You can feel as your kidneys stop
functioning and they're on low function You can
feel when you're in slow heart failure like you
you can I? Thought that I was supposed to like
find someone here or talk to someone do something
until I died again Yeah, so you were doing a
little better after the first NDE and then your
health went back downhill after a few months
until seven months ago. What were you feeling
on that day? Did you hear the music again that
particular day? I woke up and I knew that it
was going to be the last day on earth, which
is a very weird like knowing, right? It is weird.
I just knew. And I called my husband who was
at work. He was only working part -time and he
had taken off for years, right? Because we had
to stop working to sell the house. He was my
caretaker when I got sick. So I called him because
he does maintenance where we live. And I said,
this is going to sound crazy, but I think I'm
in terminal lucidity. And he's like, okay. And
he comes home. And as soon as he came home, I
heard trumpets. And I was like, there it is.
So I heard trumpets. I didn't hear music. Those
trumpets are indistinguishable and it sounds
like they're being played through a megaphone.
I mean, it's so loud. Were they the kind of trumpets
like a fanfare, like a doo -doo -doo -doo kind
of thing? yeah like old like think of old medieval
ones but they're but they different still i don't
even know if we have these trumpets on earth
i gotta tell you they're the most beautiful sounding
and as somebody who didn't before love brass
instruments right like it's the trumpet's not
necessarily the most appeasing of sounds but
no these are they're incredible i could listen
to them all day goodness i I knew and I felt
fine, right? At that point, God had taken away
all my pain. Like yes, I still had mobility aids
and breathing aids, but I didn't feel sick. I
just was aware that I was dying. And I think
that's really where all the magic happened, right?
Because... I had learned so much in my first
NDE about myself and humans and how connected
it is, there being no such thing as coincidence
and reincarnation and the chosen and heaven and
hell, which is something I think I do have to
talk a little bit about, but there was no fear.
But it had occurred to me over the last year
that Jesus had never been mentioned. So I still
wondered, okay cool, creator's real, source is
real. He told me he doesn't like the word God,
but like it's what we came up with. Cool. Roll
with the punches. And I asked my husband to baptize
me in the bathtub, and I think that it was honestly
a sh - it was a reach. It was like... Well, I
know God is real, and I spent most of my life
convinced that he wasn't, right? So let me just
like take a stab. And after he baptized me, Jesus
did appear to me, and he covered me in his blood,
and it was the most... beautiful gory but glorious
thing. And then I got shown my parents and it
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Like, how can you not see this? Like, it's literally,
like, he's right there, right? He was only there
for a moment, and I sort of just knew that I
was supposed to take my dog on a last walk, which
may seem strange. I'm a dog person. Oh, my dog
came to visit me the first time I died, too,
so all dogs go to heaven, which is awesome, right?
When I took my dog on his last walk, on my last
walk with him, I picked him up and I showed him
this beautiful view of St. Thomas. And I said,
isn't this the most beautiful thing you've ever
seen? And he never took his little pug eyes off
of me. And he said, it really is. And it's almost
like it was a gift. It was a gift from Jesus
telling me the magic is real, right? And all
these things are real. When I died the first
time everybody came and talked to me, right?
My mom, my dad, my best friend, my husband. But
over the course of the next year, I couldn't
remember the specifics about what they talked
about. I just knew that they came and talked
to me. And the second time, in Terminal Lucidity
Hits, you get everything back. I mean, I remembered
being born. I remembered every experience, every
thought, everything. Terminal lucidity very much
is being in both realms at once, right? You can
see and feel the tether. You're able to like
overhear this phone line that belongs in heaven.
You're able to start to get this rush of information.
But it became very clear at that moment that,
you know, I needed to go home and actually like
take my final lay down. I feel like I'm talking
a lot. I'm sorry. I should stop. Should I stop?
Don't want to interrupt because you're doing
well So you just keep going for a little bit
and then I have a couple of questions for you
I started to get this flood of information because
I realized this is I need to go lay down right
like the big the big lay down So I'm walking
my dog back and this is very short right because
I live in a complex as I'm walking back to lay
down I start getting information again almost
like the speed of light like I did the first
time but I was still alive It really was like
I could talk to my parents real time, asking
about where they were, because if I was dying
for good, it wasn't, there's the dying process,
and then there's the being dead process, right?
I got to learn a little bit more about the layers
and the levels. It's all happening so quick,
right? And I go to lay in bed, and I close my
eyes, and you can feel as your eyes are opening.
We ever notice that when people die, their eyes
open and then somebody has to come along and
that's what the movies always do. Yeah. So as
a caretaker for two parents that have passed
away, yeah, it happens. It's a reflex. It's one
I've always wondered about. I've always been
curious about it. He started to show me it wasn't
about me anymore or Earth or the people in it.
It was about how it all tied in together. I got
to see the start of it. I got to see him create
the earth, the first people that walked it, the
evolution that happens inside of it. I got to
see the flood, the pyramids, but not just of
our dimension of all. And there's so many more
than 12, right? All of everything mystical and
mythical and how it all can exist at the same
time. And your eyes, yeah, your eyes kind of
open. I remember being ripped down for I think
it was adrenaline. So medics came to my house
because our neighbors had smelled decomp. And
so they came and checked me out and agreed, like,
you're dying. Are you sure you want to die at
home? And I'm like, well, I sure as hell don't
want to die in a hospital if I'm not already
dying right now. And they made sure I wasn't
in pain. And they waited outside. and so I lay
on my husband's lap well aware that he is just
monitoring me but the sweet man has not slept
in a very long time and I knew that I was allowed
to like wait until he went to sleep sort of gosh
it's all kind of confusing to explain how that
happens but when I when I died I instantly shot
up to God And there was no mistaking that's where
I was. He is bigger than the cosmos. I got to
wrap my arms around his neck. I got to sit in
his lap. I got to play by his ankles. I got to
go with him to work, it felt like. I got to watch
him expand the universe. I got to watch him build
the next... The next earth that we're all gonna
be on, he showed me, he let me explore heaven
and the Garden of Eden. He let me go through
black holes and white holes. He explained, it
was, it's everything. You get every bit of information
that's ever existed in the universe all at once.
It was like you understand literally everything.
There's no way to describe it other than you
have. It's like he shares everything with you
and I remember learning about a lot of universal
laws about how I could go to heaven to recharge
but that there is a respect for the human brain
that you don't get to remember like the inside
of heaven right you get to like keep certain
bits and same with like the detail on God's face
like I can tell you he's blue but like his facial
like you don't get to remember it you know but
I did I it was like Got to see the past and the
present in the future. I got to see I got to
see everything I mean Everything and then he
he told me that he was giving me a new heart
and lungs and the next thing that I remember
is my husband kissing me because he had been
holding on he had been holding on to my cold
dead body for an hour not ready to let the medics
take it and When he was finally ready to let
them take my body. He kissed me one last time
and I took a breath And that's like I went from
being with God to like with my husband in these
medics and everybody is like shocked and terrified
because they're like what the right and I'm like
and the first breath that I took was the cleanest
breath I've ever taken there was nothing wrong
with my heart anymore my lungs were great my
kidneys my liver I was hungry I knew that I could
get up and go to the bathroom and and I I had
been healed and I knew it, I knew it right then
and I felt like I could run a marathon so they
rushed me to the hospital and they do a bunch
of tests and they're like we can't explain this
but you look like a healthy 33 year old 34 year
old like your organs look good We can't see the
past trauma anymore from heart attacks, from
strokes, signs of internal bleeding. Like there's
no, you look, you're great. Like we have read
about this, we don't understand it, but like
what can I do for you? And I was like nothing
because I knew that going from 40 medications,
like I knew I wasn't meant to take medicine anymore.
And so I said nothing, like I don't want anything.
I just like the medics want to know I'm not a
zombie, I guess, right? and they let me go and
it's been seven months and I do yoga and I do
ballet and and I go hiking and I can eat anything
I want when I hadn't eaten in like months like
feeding tubes are no joke and I'm healthy now
and it's um it's been crazy to make sense of
because I came back with a lot of understanding
of things that there's no way that that could
be real or right things that about stem cells
and and you know all these things and and then
they start turning out to be true and it's it's
even crazier because that means that if a lot
of what I saw has already been studied and proven
then this other stuff I saw the things that are
coming our way and the next earth and the fact
that hell is more than just a state of consciousness
like people think because a lot of people talk
about this new age like heaven and hell are states
of states of mind right and they they are but
they're they have their own geographical location
right and i got to watch the world end and coming
back to grips with that has all been really hard
because now i just keep wondering like you can't
have some of it real and not all of it and i
feel like now i've been talking for a really
long time i'm done i feel like i haven't breathed
for about five minutes so in no particular order
a few questions First of all, how long did your
husband say that you had been dead with the medics
waiting outside? So about 50 minutes. That's
just I'll just answer the question. 50 minutes.
Okay. That's a long time. It felt like I was
gone for years. I mean, I literally got to go
more places than I mean, when I came back, I
thought it was 2026. Like, there was no brain
damage, but psychologically, I did not still
think it was 2025. I can say that. I thought
I was gone for a year. My biggest question that
I want to know the most is the time that you
spent with God and you talked about putting your
arms around his neck. How did you feel at that
time? I know you can't remember all the download,
but I'll bet you can remember how you felt. it's
the problem other than the details from inside
of heaven which is a layer by the way it is what
we think of as heaven is a layer and other than
the details of his face and stuff like that no
i do remember it all and that's the problem it
recharges you're allowed to go hug him anytime
you want and you can stay there for as long as
you want because time isn't real it doesn't exist
but it recharges right and you can like see it
and you can feel it and i don't know why me wanting
to wrap my arms around his neck was such a big
deal maybe because he had a neck right like you
just want to and it's recharging and it's like
he is he's bigger than the cosmos right so like
a million people could fit in his lap at once
except when you're sitting in it it's so cozy
And when you're sitting in his lap, you get to
see from his point of view. And that's crazy.
I mean, it's recharging. It really is recharging.
Because I think people really only think about
there being heaven and hell rather than layers
of heaven, layers of cosmos, layers of hell,
where he sits, how he runs it. It looks like
a Merkaba shaped dodecahedron. of the sand inside
of like a capsule flowing and folding into the
universe because he has got Jesus on his right
and then he's got the archangels, Michael and
Gabriel, which I gotta tell you, I knew nothing,
nothing of religious education at all before
I died. So to come back to life and be telling
my husband, like I met somebody named Gabriel
and Michael and my husband who was raised with
religious backing is looking at me like, How
do you seriously not know who they are, right?
But there's God and there's Jesus and then the
angels and there's the way that people sit behind
and to the sides and the way it flows. And so
you're sitting there recharging, healing, feeling
like why do people choose to recharge in heaven
when you could recharge in God's lap? And to
watch it all, it's It's recharging that's really
like I know I keep saying that but one thing
I learned is that time is the only Calculable
currency and so the time that we spend doing
anything is based on what? We need and what we've
earned up there Because you can when you go through
all the levels you can see all the different
people working their jobs all the angels all
the chosen all the All the spirits and energies
and whatever you want to call them. But when
you're in his lap, he's like holding you and
you get to just see it all indescribable. You
mentioned something about you got to go around
with him. It almost sounded like take a daughter
to work day. Oh, my gosh. It really did. It really
did because he let me he he I got to watch him
expand the universe. What did that look like?
The Bible says he speaks and it happens But with
there being no sound up there he really just
like thinks and it happens But when you're like
with him he like shares the thought so you get
to like observe it firsthand sort of and it's
Indescribable it's like an ex it's the opposite
See, I want to say it's the opposite of an explosion,
but that's an implosion and that's still not
right. It's a burst. It's a burst and expansion
and the way he throws it all together and to
build atmospheres of each planet and how each
one plays its role in the universe. I think the
word explosion, you were saying it didn't fit
because we think of explosion as something that
it ruins things and it blows things up and you're
talking about creation. Yeah, I am. Correct me
if I'm wrong, but I think you're talking about
expansion without destroying anything, right?
Yes, but it does, you know, and it's funny because
we say energy can't be destroyed, but it does
get turned into something else. Yeah, energy
can be changed. Yes, transferred, yes. Yeah,
and that's part of what creation is. It doesn't
necessarily mean making something out of nothing.
It can mean changing something from one form
to another, right? Right. Like when you create
a painting, you're not creating it out of nothing.
You're taking paint and an easel and a brush
and you're taking these things and then creating
something amazing. That's how I've always pictured
how he creates. Yes. Yes, that's really good
too. I always use the comparison or I use the
comparison now. It's like baking a cake. You
know, you pray for something and then he gives
you the eggs and the flour and the milk and the
and you're like, why don't I have a cake? All
right. Let's talk about something that you alluded
to a couple of times. Heaven and hell. What did
you learn about those two? And I'm going to call
them places because you said that's sort of how
you used it. Yeah. Yes. So there are slivers
of both on earth. There is a slice of heaven
on earth and there is a slice of hell and hell
on earth and both can be found within your consciousness
Everybody has got beams of light a glow Something
inside and essentially the very next dimension
because there's so many That's how they view
us is through our beams of light, right? And
some are dimming and they can stay dim for a
very long time, but until until they go out And
when they've gone out is when they start to experience
hell on earth. People often might manifest this
with the throws of addiction or a terrible sickness,
right? Or, you know, being truly, truly lost.
These are like states of mind that are heaven
and hell on earth. But when I was exploring around,
I very much learned That they are so much more
than that because you have to put a slice of
heaven and hell on earth It's hard to explain
but when he was showing me this next earth how
he builds it and all the things that are there
and all the different kinds of life that go into
it and what creates the atmosphere and so he's
saying you know that hell is there for our safety
and That it wasn't for me to go visit only to
understand through observation So first I flew
around the Garden of Eden and I got to see truly
how it blossoms through our love here. It was
so real. It was so overflowing. Like a rainforest
of flowers, really. And I got to see several
different layers of heaven and how all the workers
kind of go together because I learned that my
parents are not. While my parents both went to
heaven, they live on different levels or layers
of heaven. And with hell, I had to understand
that it was for our safety first, because while
humans can go to hell, it's not just humans that
are out there. It's not just us in a galaxy that's
infinite. There is other life out there, and
whether we want to call them aliens or create
some other name for them, there is a plethora
of light and dark and good and evil, because
light and dark don't equate to good and evil,
but that There does need to be That's a it's
a it's a really hard one to explain what I saw
of how Was truly what I believe was just that
first Like a level layer and the best way I can
describe it is it being void of color? Now that
may not seem like that big of a deal, but when
you die you get to see Colors that don't exist
to the naked eye I mean there's a million trillion
more than we get to see in our rainbow and The
saturation of them and the vibrancy of them and
the and the mixing of them. There's so many so
to not have like any I think is very telling
on its own. When you're on the other side, whether
you're with God or in the cosmos or in heaven,
telepathy is real, right? And I wish we came
up with a different word for that because I sound
like a woo -woo person every time I see that,
but you know, we don't use our basic five human
senses over there, right? Your consciousness
speaks, and in hell they can't communicate. They
can't communicate, there's no color, there is
still no time, but they're aware of there being
no time. Whereas in heaven, there's no time,
but you don't you're not even aware of it. You
don't care There's just no right and so in hell
it is you're cognizant of how never -ending it
is and they looked they looked kind of like zombies
in the sense that they were Blistered and boiled
they were broken. They were torn. They were half
dead You know, they wandered around and you could
tell that they In a weird way, you could tell
that they were all screaming, even though it
was completely void of sound. But I quickly got
pulled from that because it went from that to
showing me the future. I watched the end of the
world. I watched what it looks like for the heavens
to be ripped open and for Jesus to make his way
back down to Africa. Okay, tell me a whole bunch
more about that. Fill in some blanks on that.
Well, It was definitely the future You know that
I was looking at because a lot of other things
There had been so much evolution You could see
all the angels right all of the energy is and
everything kind of working together Because it
was it's time God I I feel like I'm gonna sound
crazy if I explain this and that's I think that
my biggest fear about doing this all because
I don't even know how to say this without sounding
crazy. I think that there are good aliens and
I think that there are bad aliens. And I think
that oftentimes we might be calling these bad
aliens demons, right? Because I do think that
there are also some demonic forces that now walk
around. It's crazy to hear myself say out loud
compared to my whole life. We're always moving
in the cosmos. And part of the reason that he
has to expand and make a new Earth is because
our Earth's heartbeat is dying. and the humans
have been fighting the humans stuck in this big
battle when it really soon is gonna need to be
more about mankind about what's coming our way
because while there is a lot out there what is
the closest to us is not playing for our team
so people need to wake up and choose God and
choose love and light so we can all start working
together because our energy does help thrust
us. God always wins, Jesus always prevails. Watching
it was like there's this big red carpet that
gets laid out and it's like it gets spread out
through... I mean, I don't, you know, where God
sits in relation to the planets is such a hard
thing to explain, so... and you're watching all
the angels come down and they open up the skies
and they form into this chariot if you will and
he rides down to Africa and it's it I didn't
know until I came back to life because I had
never read the Bible that what I had seen was
revelations Which is also really interesting
though because God did make it very very very
very clear to me that all religions have about
10 % right and they need to slam together in
order to get the complete truth. So I'm still
kind of working my way through a lot of this.
I haven't really talked about like the end of
the world or really any of this publicly like
this before because I'm still trying to make
sense of it on my own I suppose. Seven months
is not a long time. It's gonna take you a while
to work through all this I've never gone so long
without working like it's it's I I've been focusing
on being close to God and eating right and keeping
my child like a wonderment, but I got to tell
you it So weird it's so weird being Being back
because our love here doesn't compare our joy
here doesn't compare our color here doesn't compare
and time moves so Strangely Alright couple more
things before we finish up here I alluded to
the fact earlier because you and I talked about
it last week about your name change or new name
or Tell me about your name So, you know, I grew
up in the same house my whole life and I grew
up with Seven other people who had the same first
and middle name and we were all so different.
So I think from the time I was a kid being born
Rebecca Ann, it just never fit. And I never found
it fair that we get to choose everything about
ourselves and not the name that represents us.
So I changed my name to Riley before my parents
died. And that is truly how I know myself. But
I think just through a series of existential
crises, I was hoping that if God renamed me,
it would just like put an end to all of that
and squash it. And it would be. You know, so
I asked God, you know, if you're giving me new
life, do you give me a new name? And at that
point, I didn't get the overwhelming of him speaking
to me the way that, you know, I did before. Instead,
it was more like I was just getting imagery.
And he showed me a bundle of white lilies. And
I took that as, okay, I'm Lily now. And it's
hard. It's hard. You know, I thought that was
gonna break me fist. It really should, right?
But old habits die hard because I still find
myself constantly introducing myself as Riley
or responding to Riley. But I, yeah, you know,
I asked for it. I ask and you shall receive.
Yeah, okay. This show is all about hope, okay?
Because we live in kind of a tough place at a
tough time right now. And for a lot of people
they're struggling to have some kind of hope
because they feel loss, they feel tragedy, they
feel the weight of the world on their shoulders.
You get that. I want you to try to describe in
any more detail if you can what it was like to
sit on God's lap and why that should give hope
to others. So I think the thing about I keep
making it a point to say you get every question
ever answered like that you've ever wondered
answered and I don't think our recall on what
those answers are is are as important as the
fact that there is an answer for every single
thing every Hardship every weight every cancer
every sickness every injustice that we see we
think that that it can't be glorious, but He
is truly glorious. I've seen it. Because I used
to feel that same way and the truth is that he
does not do anything without not only reason
and balance, but also gifts that come with it.
We may not see them and understand them. But
that's the same way that, like, you're mixing
oatmeal for a kid that's right there and it's
like the kid's just like, I'm hungry, I'm hungry,
I'm hungry, why aren't you feeding me? Not seeing
that, like, parents just hasn't given it to them
yet, right? I think what weighs us down are the
questions without answers. But there should be
hope that there are answers to absolutely everything,
that everything is balanced. that God, you just
have to seek him and that he truly is the most
omnipotent that there could ever be. I think
we need to relinquish a lot of control, which
is hard, but I was an atheist and I got to see
God, so I also don't want people to be scared
of this like biblical telling or this baptist
telling of you know fear god because god doesn't
want to be feared he wants to be loved right
but this whole idea that you can't be in god's
presence if you haven't done x y or z it's it's
so much more complex than that because his love
is so unconditional and it's so overwhelming
and this is just a waiting period because The
answers, when you get them, they all make sense
and you realize that nothing could shift or be
any different and it still work out the way it
needs to. God is love. Riley, thank you so much
for being with me today. It's been awesome. I
appreciate it. I'm sorry that I talk a lot, but
thank you so much. This has been wonderful for
me to work through. Have your support, all of
it. Thank you, I'm honored. Thanks again for
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