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From the time that they pronounced me that was

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a good 45 minutes They cut my clothes and then

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they paddled my heart my heart stopped and I

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could see people screaming and crying But I didn't

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realize that was actually my physical body because

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I was somewhere else The only thing that I could

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feel if you can imagine Absolute love and peace

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there wasn't anything else to be felt. I was

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greeted by people I'd known in the past I'm back

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home again. Incredibly safe and felt at home.

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Welcome, welcome to Round Trip Death everybody

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and our very special guest today, Jason Janis.

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Hey, I'm so grateful you're with me this morning.

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How are you? I'm doing fantastic. Thank you for

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having me. I'm honored. Thank you. I'm going

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to give sort of a brief outline for everybody.

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We're going to hear Jason's beautiful NDE. And

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then we're going to talk about a whole bunch

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of things he's learned since then. And then I'm

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going to put on kind of my devil's advocate hat

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and ask some hard questions. Jason has agreed

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to that already upfront, and he's in fact happy

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about it. So we're going to get into some of

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the things that maybe you are wondering about

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when we get to that point. But first, hey, Jason,

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tell us a little bit about you. Yeah, my name

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is Jason Janis. I was born April 28, 1970 in

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a Midwestern town in Illinois. You know, a Gen

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-Xer, but it was the 70s. Again, I'm just a Midwestern

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town. But from an early age, I just never fit

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in. I was very, very deeply loving little boy.

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Didn't understand it. I always got my feelings

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hurt. Didn't really fit in with a lot of the

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kids, even though I did have some friends. But

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I always felt left out, right? Nobody wanted

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to be a really close friend or school was tough.

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Finding schoolmates was tough growing up. When

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I went into fifth and sixth grade, I got pulled

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out of public school and shoved into a Christian

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school for two years. So I had that atmosphere

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shoved down my throat. I grew up Catholic and

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Christian. So that was the only language that

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I knew getting thrown into that school. really

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ram rotted that bad information down. Again,

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and I moved to Wisconsin in 1980. I got more

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friends and stuff, but it was always, I always

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felt left out. I've always felt like I didn't

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belong here. And I still feel that way to this

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day, very strongly, even more so now. But it

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was a very difficult childhood, right? I grew

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up with a very abusive parents, mostly my mother.

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My parents got divorced very early on seven years

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seven years old I think it was my mother was

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not a fun alcoholic very abusive I mean mentally

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abusive. I was physically beaten very beaten

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I tried to save my sister from the beating so

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I learned very early on to get her up get her

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dressed when she was three years old and You

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didn't make a sound if you made a sound. I don't

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care if you pooped the bed wet the bed She walked

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down you got beat beat so we'd sit inches from

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the TV with that volume down and I would make

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her her breakfast and cereal get her dressed

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and we'd go outside and play that was the kind

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of Early childhood that I grew up in then as

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a teenager I went to live with my father that

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really stopped but it was you know in the formative

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years So it was a very abusive household I learned

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how to take care of myself, basically, in other

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words, right? Get up, get dressed, cook. When

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I'd go visit my grandparents, my grandmother

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especially adored me. She, from an early age,

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five years old, I remember learning how to cook.

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Cook, clean, vacuum, do all of these things,

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right? So I was very independent. Then I had

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my first marriage, my first child. I thought

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I was doing what I should have done, right? But

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nothing made sense in my life and nothing just

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felt right. I got divorced, my first wife died,

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got married again, had another child, got divorced

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again. Just love never seemed to find me. It

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was always just a hard, brutal life. Jason, do

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you think some of those scars from childhood

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had something to do with that? I always felt

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unworthy from, you know, when you're being beaten,

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and I'm talking, it didn't mean with a hand fist,

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belt buckles, belts. It didn't matter. And this

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is where I began to hate God. I was such a loving

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little boy. And that was because I was an empath

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and I didn't know it at the time, a deep empath.

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And I'm still that way to this day. So those

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beatings really took a toll on me. I thought

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God didn't love me. And so I began to resent

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him. So when I went to Catholic Church, I had

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some bisexual experiences when I was younger.

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in those formative years. So when I got went

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to Catholic Church and had all of this shoved

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down my throat, I knew I was doomed. I knew there

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was no saving me. There was no chance. God, and

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it was shown. That's why I was being beaten.

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That's why I was hated by him. And that's when

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I quit having a relationship. I was about nine

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or 10 years old when my grandmother went to wake

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me up to go to church. Come on, Jace, let's go

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to church. And I remember kicking her. Hard and

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I sat up and I said, don't you ever wake me up

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to go to church? Don't you ever? Wake me up.

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God hates me. He hates me. I said, so I'll take

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care of myself. Don't you ever wake me up and

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She was just stunned Like Jase and I said I'll

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take care of myself That was the last time I

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ever spoke to God until my death when I was dying.

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And that was over 40 years later. Now, did I

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ever stop believing in Him? No, but I stopped

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having a relationship with Him and with Jesus.

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Should we fast forward to that point? Let's go

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to 2020, early in the days of COVID. Wow, what

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happened to you? How'd you get sick? Well, I

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was waking up, so this is like end of March,

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2020, and I started being very, very tired, waking

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up with blood in my mouth, like, You know, when

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you taste blood, it's got that coppery taste,

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right? I'm like, did I bite my tongue or lip

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or something? You know, and I'm like, nothing.

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But as the days wore on, you know, we, I was

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just tired, like physically tired. One day I

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came home from work, April 2nd. Wasn't happy

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with my life, didn't like my job, didn't like

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the situation I was in. But I came home, sat

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down. I had my dinner. I made a bagel sandwich.

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Just really wasn't in the mood to eat. And I

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began, I took a bite. Took a second bite and

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I'm just watching TV and then went to take another

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bite night. I cough or I've worked and I'm like,

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and I swallowed him like, Oh God, that was horrible.

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It's just a wretched taste. Then I went to take

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another bite. Now up. I coughed bright red blood.

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I mean, it was pink. I mean, it was a handful.

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Okay. It wasn't like a dime or a spot. It was

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a couple of silver dollars. And I freaked. I

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was like, what was, you know, and then I coughed

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again. bright red blood. I mean, not dark red

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when you cut your finger. This is bright pink.

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Now I'm starting to wheeze and I'm trying to

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breathe and I just keep coughing up this blood.

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Now my whole plate is full of blood. So I get

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up and I just remember looking out the patio

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door in my apartment in Wisconsin and I'm watching

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life just take place and I know that I'm dying.

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I can't breathe. Something is massively wrong

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with me and I'm dying. I knew it and I'm watching

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people walk down the sidewalk and cars go by

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like nothing's going on in here in this apartment

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I'm dying I grab my phone I get to the the sink

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and throw my stuff out and I I'm coughing constant

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I can't breathe and I'm frantically trying to

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call my ex -wife because I'm divorced and She

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was an RN and that's the only thing I could think

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of at that time Panicking, you know I'm starting

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to panic a little bit as I truly am really struggling

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to breathe and the blood is just I'm coughing

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it up. And I'm frantically trying over and over,

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started FaceTime her over and over. And then

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finally she answered the, you know, she answered

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the FaceTime and she's like, what do you want?

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Right. And I tried to speak to her and I coughed

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and blood just went all over the phone and she

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saw it. She goes, and she's ran to, she goes,

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Jason. And I said, I don't feel good. I'm trying

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to breathe and I'm wheezing, you know? And I

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said, coughing. And I said, I'm sorry, I'm going

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to go lay down. I'm tired. I don't feel good.

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and I'm coughing she goes Jason Jason listen

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to me Jason Jason and I'm coughing I said I'm

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tired I'm gonna go lay down she goes Jason if

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you lay down you're going to die please don't

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lay down Jason listen to me I said I'm coughing

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up more and more blood she goes Jason honey Jason

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and I said I'm sorry and the phone went dead

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and I was like wow why couldn't our marriage

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be like that Simple and I and that's all I remember

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next thing. I know I wake up in What I assumed

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was the ICU My hands and feet were strapped to

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the bed when I mean strapped I couldn't move

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them more than a sixteenth of an inch up or down

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Okay, I had a two down my throat stuff in my

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nose and an IV in my carotid artery here And

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I was in incredible pain. I mean it was mind

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-altering pain Mean I had a myriad of machines

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keeping me alive. I can feel the ventilator going

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Doctors all over the place and now it's dark

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and they like Jason, you know, do you know your

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name? You know who you are and I can't speak

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so I'm saying yes Do you know where you are?

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You know, I'm looking around and I'm like, you

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know, who's the president? Who cares? You know,

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how do you want me to answer that? I You know,

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I have a two inch tube down my throat, right?

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But from the moment I awoke through the myriad

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of doctors, now this room was big, okay? And

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I found out later why I was in the infectious

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disease ward because the actual ICU and where

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I was were dying people, right? So this room

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was big, but up in the left -hand corner, there

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was a TV. Somebody was standing there. I mean,

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I couldn't see it, but I could feel it. There

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was somebody there. I was being drawn towards

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that area. It was a very comforting feeling,

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a very knowing feeling, right? I've sensed this

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feeling before. And I just trying to see through

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the doctors and I couldn't. So they gave me more

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pain and I fell back, I mean meds. So I fell

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back to sleep and they're waking me up like every

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10 minutes and making me cough up this blood.

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they're getting all of this blood out and come

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to find out later afterwards that they pumped

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out 2 .8 liters of blood, equivalent to 12 cups

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of blood from my lungs. So my cause of death

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was acute respiratory failure hypoxia. I basically

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drowned in my own blood. And why they ventilated

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me, because later I found out why the IV was

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there, was they flushed the medicines directly

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into my heart to restart the heart. I wake up,

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And I'm, if you imagine when you get an itch,

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you've got to scratch it. Right. My whole body

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itched uncontrollably from the meds. Uh, I was

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on a fentanyl and my body was itching and I tried

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to eat my hands from street. I couldn't move.

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Right. And I'm like, I get my hand out of it.

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You want to write. And they finally said, you're

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not going to take, you're not right. And I said,

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I'm not sure. So they let go of the straps and

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they're all there. and they got me a piece of

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paper. They said, you itch? And so they let me

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so I could scratch, you know, and itch. But in

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the meantime, I'm still looking towards the left

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because somebody's standing there. Now, mind

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you, I was in the ICU for a month. I lost 75

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pounds, right? I was extremely lethargic. And

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at the very end, within the last day or two,

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they took the tube out. They took the, you know,

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all the stuff out. They found out what it was.

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They said, Jason, we have no cause or reason

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for this. You don't drink, you don't smoke, you

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don't do drugs, you exercise. All they could

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do was blame it on COVID. They said, what we

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found in your lungs were rapidly growing tumors

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and they burst and they filled your lungs with

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blood. And if we don't get these removed quickly,

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you're going to die. Okay. And I'm like, okay.

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As time goes by, you know, I'm staring at that

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and the nurse walks in one day and is like Jason

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Do you want to turn on the TV? And this is someone

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still when I had the tube in my mouth, but I

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could move my hands How do you tell somebody

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somebody standing there's somebody right there?

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They're gonna think I'm nuts, right? Cuz all

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you see is a TV, but there was somebody there

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and I'm like, you know, I just just So as time

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goes on I'm just staring and staring and it's

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getting time for me to go and again, they had

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pulled out the tube and all that and You know

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when you know, you're dying and you're on the

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verge of death This was the first time that I

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called out to God in over 40 years and I had

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no business calling out to him none. I abandoned

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him I told him to F off. I told him he could

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go to hell. He hated me clearly, but I got up

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on my elbows and I was shaking uncontrollably

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because I had no strength, none. I couldn't talk.

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So when I was crying out to God, it was hoarse

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like, right? And I called out to God. I said,

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please, please don't let me die. Please. And

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now I'm sobbing uncontrollably. I feel a love.

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Within me that I had not felt since I was a little

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boy It had just overcome me and I was like, please

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please don't let me die I'm sorry. I abandoned

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you and I'm sorry. I abandoned Jesus. I said

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I quit having a relationship with you and I said,

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I'm sorry I Said I never stopped believing in

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you, but I I did quit having a relationship with

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you I said, I'm sorry. I said, please don't take

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my children away from me. Please. Please don't

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take my children from me. And there was somebody

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that I loved very much. I won't mention her name,

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but I said, please don't take her from me. Please.

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I love her. Please. I want to hold her hand.

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I want to kiss her. I want to smell her breath.

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I want to make love to her. The moment I said

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that, I was looking at my body laying on a bed.

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I saw everything around me. I was at the top

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of the ceiling. All pain was gone. I felt energized.

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I mean, I was juiced. I mean, I was like, and

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I was in constant in this unimaginable most beautiful

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love and light. This love flowed through me.

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It was as warm as the sun. It encapsulated me

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in it. And I became it. I became the light. I

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saw everything. I could see through the wall.

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I could see all the patients dying. I could see

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the nurses' stations, the uniforms they were

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wearing, the colors. And I can see outside the

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window what, and for the first time, because

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when I was looking out my window, all I could

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see was the sky and the top of a tree. Now I'm

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looking out through, I'm seeing through the wall,

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right? Well, I have 360 degrees. I'm seeing everything

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behind me, everything. But now I'm looking out

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into this field. I could see every blade of grass.

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Every blade of grass. I could see the serrations

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in the grass. I could see the veins in the grass.

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I could see the colors moving in the grass. It

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was the most magnificent green I had ever seen.

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The tree was the same way. I could see the souls.

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The tree looked like Obi -Wan Kenobi in Star

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Wars, right? When you see him at the end, right?

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And he had the halo around him. That's exactly

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what the souls I saw of the trees, the grass,

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the clouds, everything. I could see every soul.

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And it was just the most beautiful thing. And

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I knew where I was. I said it. I was like, I'm

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home. I'm home. And it was a thought. I mean,

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I'm looking at a body. So this is all telepathically

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I'm speaking. Right? Because I'm looking at this

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thing laying on the bed and I had no love of

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it. None. none at all. The next thought that

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crept into my mind was, what a beautiful day

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to die. Not only did I know where I was, I realized

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that I had died numerous times. This was nothing

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new, right? It was just normal would be the thing.

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It was comforting. I was home. But in the same

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aspect, I said it with a little bit of trepidation

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was like, I'm not supposed to be here yet. Now,

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how long all of this took? I have no idea. Now,

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like I said, I'm seeing everything through the

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walls. I'm at the top of the ceiling now, so

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I'm even with the TV. What time? I don't know.

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This could have been five seconds, five hours,

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50 years. Who knows? There is no such thing as

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time. It ceased to exist, right? I was just simply

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home. Now, this other presence showed up, and

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this would be more like 12 o 'clock. It's hard

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to describe when you have 360 -degree vision.

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I just began to focus more at 12, but I'm still

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paying attention to the 10 o 'clock, 11 o 'clock

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situation. That presence, I knew instantly, too,

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that was Yeshua, without question, or to those

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that don't know Jesus Christ. And more love was

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bestowed upon me. This love that was bestowed

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upon me is inconceivable to any of you. It was

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almost stifling, like somebody, you know, covering

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your mouth and nose and barely letting enough

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air to come in to breathe. It was just the most

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magnificent and beautiful love. And it was as

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warm as the sun. And it just never stopped. It

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never altered. It never wavered. It was just

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the most unconditional love. I was at peace.

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I was home. And I had no desire to ever come

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back. I know I was begging not to die, but that

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was immaterial. Can I just ask you a couple of

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questions? I hate to interrupt and I can't wait

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to hear the rest of the story, but I don't want

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to get too far down the road before I ask a few

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questions about this. One is, how did you know

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that it was Jesus? I recognized His energy instantaneously.

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Just like I knew who was, once I left my body,

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who was standing in the corner was God. So when

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I merged with the light and that love, I became

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the light and the love. I became one with the

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Father. And when that other energy showed, that

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vibrational frequency was instantly known. It

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was Yeshua. I didn't need to see a body or a

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face. I just instantly recognized it without

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question. And that brings up the other question,

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which is, you saw this being in your room, this

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is before you left your body, you saw this being

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up by the TV. And did you feel like that was

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God the whole time? I didn't know it at the time,

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but there was nobody there. I felt this energy.

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I felt this love connection is what I'm trying

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to say, right? I never did I see anybody except

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when I left my body. Then I saw the love. I felt

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the love and the light and that I knew was Father

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or God. But prior to that, I had no idea. It

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was just this recognizable feeling, right? Just

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this absolute knowing that I recognized it, just

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like I knew somebody was there. So it's just,

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it was there. It's very hard to describe. So

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when I was out of my body and I was in constant

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the light and the love, then I knew without question,

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it was my father, it was God, it was father.

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And I call God father because in that moment

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of my transition out of my body into being home

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and feeling this love, The love that was bestowed

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upon me, mind you, the things that I have done

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in my life were subject from what I was taught

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was hell, where I was going to go. There was

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no question about it through the violence that

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I inflicted on other people and it was inflicted

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on me, the abuse that I went through, the drug

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abuse, the bisexuality that I had early on, the

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alcohol, the drugs, the unforgivable sin as a

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Christian, it was the outright rejection of the

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Holy Spirit. Needless to say, I was, when I came

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back, I was shocked. But that energy that I realized

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was Jesus. We don't exist as a body, and we can

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get into this later. The body's meaningless.

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It's of such littleness, we'll just leave it

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there. Yeah, we'll get to that in a few minutes.

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Go ahead and finish with the experience itself.

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So this is the end of it. I was just engulfed

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in the love of Yeshua and Father. And then I

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felt two hands on my soul, right? And it gently

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glided me back to my body and our souls aren't

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in our body, but I felt his two hands on my chest

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and they were huge and they were warm. They were

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so warm, gently laid me my soul back around my

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body and then laid me back down on the bed and

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I was out. How long? I don't know, but I woke

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up again to doctors frantically shaking me, trying

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to get me up. And I look around and I'm like,

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What was that? And I looked to the left and it

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was gone. That presence was gone. And I was like,

00:22:49.849 --> 00:22:51.650
what just happened? Jay, are you okay? And I'm

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like, everybody out of the room. Oh, you need

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But I was like, what was that? Nobody's going

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to believe me. Nobody's going to believe me.

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They're going to think I'm nuts if I try to describe

00:24:49.200 --> 00:24:51.579
that I was just with God and Jesus, right? They're

00:24:51.579 --> 00:24:54.420
going to think I'm nuts. So that was basically

00:24:54.420 --> 00:24:59.319
my near -death experience in the ICU. And since

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then, I've had profound spiritual experiences

00:25:01.880 --> 00:25:05.059
over these. It's going to be, wow, coming up.

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six years in a few days, a couple days. A couple

00:25:09.000 --> 00:25:11.940
other questions about when you were out of body.

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I assume that all the pain that you had been

00:25:15.200 --> 00:25:17.240
feeling and all the itching, I assume all that

00:25:17.240 --> 00:25:21.299
was gone? Instantaneously, gone. It's interesting

00:25:21.299 --> 00:25:25.119
to hear that you went from begging to not die

00:25:25.119 --> 00:25:30.480
to being home. Did you feel like you, how do

00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:32.990
I put this? Did you feel like you still wanted

00:25:32.990 --> 00:25:36.430
to come back or maybe didn't so much? No, I had

00:25:36.430 --> 00:25:39.569
no desire to come back because in that moment

00:25:39.569 --> 00:25:42.630
of my transition I knew everything there was

00:25:42.630 --> 00:25:45.609
to ever know in a trillionth of a second. Everything.

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From whatever you want to know, I knew. I knew

00:25:49.450 --> 00:25:51.549
that everybody and everything in the world that

00:25:51.549 --> 00:25:53.710
was taking place was right where it was needed

00:25:53.710 --> 00:25:56.269
to be. Everything and every person was right

00:25:56.269 --> 00:25:58.849
where they needed to be. Perfect. Even those

00:25:58.849 --> 00:26:02.299
people dying. They were dying on cue. That's

00:26:02.299 --> 00:26:05.700
how they chose to die. So No, I did not want

00:26:05.700 --> 00:26:08.440
to come back at all. I was home. I wanted to

00:26:08.440 --> 00:26:11.079
stay there It was the most profound experience

00:26:11.079 --> 00:26:13.819
of my life I have never even with my own children

00:26:13.819 --> 00:26:15.519
watching them come into the earth coming into

00:26:15.519 --> 00:26:18.460
this world I have never felt a love like that.

00:26:18.500 --> 00:26:20.960
I was for the first time at my life. I was at

00:26:20.960 --> 00:26:24.079
peace There was no internal war. There was no

00:26:24.079 --> 00:26:28.059
struggle. There was no pain It was just love

00:26:28.059 --> 00:26:31.960
and peace For those that maybe haven't felt that

00:26:31.960 --> 00:26:34.839
love, how could you describe it? How could you

00:26:34.839 --> 00:26:37.319
relate it to something here on earth that maybe

00:26:37.319 --> 00:26:44.039
we have felt? Wow, maybe, maybe in the slightest

00:26:44.039 --> 00:26:47.640
way. You've seen parents, I don't want to use

00:26:47.640 --> 00:26:50.880
that analogy because that's horrific. Just take

00:26:50.880 --> 00:26:53.019
every parent, like every mother, right? When

00:26:53.019 --> 00:26:57.079
that child is born and that bond is there, you

00:26:57.079 --> 00:27:00.029
take every mother or every parent. mother and

00:27:00.029 --> 00:27:02.470
father, right? And you take that love of that

00:27:02.470 --> 00:27:07.049
child and then you multiply it by a billion.

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That's what it would feel like. But our language,

00:27:11.930 --> 00:27:15.609
which is archaic and barbaric to say the least,

00:27:16.269 --> 00:27:19.630
is there's just no words to describe or put that

00:27:19.630 --> 00:27:21.710
love into existence. But what I was going to

00:27:21.710 --> 00:27:24.630
say is you've seen parents when you've seen school

00:27:24.630 --> 00:27:26.430
shootings take place and you see them frantically

00:27:26.430 --> 00:27:29.309
running down the road. tears streaming down their

00:27:29.309 --> 00:27:33.109
eyes. Now take that feeling of absolute love

00:27:33.109 --> 00:27:36.789
and multiply it by a billion. And that would

00:27:36.789 --> 00:27:41.089
still equal an F to the love that Father has

00:27:41.089 --> 00:27:47.890
of you. It is profound. It is profound. And it,

00:27:47.910 --> 00:27:51.309
again, it has changed my life. That's the kind

00:27:51.309 --> 00:27:52.690
of love we're talking about here. And that's

00:27:52.690 --> 00:27:55.569
why I call God Father. because in that moment

00:27:55.569 --> 00:27:58.289
of my transition, I felt like I was his one and

00:27:58.289 --> 00:28:04.029
only son. The love bestowed upon me was, again,

00:28:04.309 --> 00:28:07.210
nothing that I can ever put into words. And no

00:28:07.210 --> 00:28:09.009
near -death experiencer is, and I've watched

00:28:09.009 --> 00:28:11.690
thousands of NDEs. They all describe the same

00:28:11.690 --> 00:28:13.369
thing. I know what they're talking about, right?

00:28:13.750 --> 00:28:16.269
When they say that the love, you guys have no

00:28:16.269 --> 00:28:19.210
idea what that love is. If you could even experience

00:28:19.210 --> 00:28:21.980
it for a tenth of a second, there would be no

00:28:21.980 --> 00:28:23.960
wars, there would be no famine, there would be

00:28:23.960 --> 00:28:26.900
no homelessness, there would be no drug or alcohol

00:28:26.900 --> 00:28:30.440
abuse, or you know, children dying of starvation.

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That's the kind of love that I'm talking about.

00:28:33.619 --> 00:28:35.980
Thank you for trying to explain all that. You

00:28:35.980 --> 00:28:39.160
did a good job. I know it's not perfect, but

00:28:39.160 --> 00:28:41.500
I guess we just don't have the words for it.

00:28:42.539 --> 00:28:45.960
I'm wondering another thing, that is, it seems

00:28:45.960 --> 00:28:50.210
like Prior to this happening, you were very aware

00:28:50.210 --> 00:28:53.230
of your own weaknesses. You mentioned some of

00:28:53.230 --> 00:28:55.950
the things that you had done that you didn't

00:28:55.950 --> 00:28:59.329
feel good about in your life. When you went to

00:28:59.329 --> 00:29:02.369
the other side, was there any time that you felt

00:29:02.369 --> 00:29:05.190
guilt, that you felt pain, that you felt like,

00:29:05.190 --> 00:29:08.509
man, did I ever screw up? There is absolutely

00:29:08.509 --> 00:29:13.109
no judgment. None. None. There is no judgment.

00:29:13.810 --> 00:29:17.009
coming from Christianity, I would, I, you know,

00:29:17.029 --> 00:29:20.529
that's not what I expected. You know of a vindictive

00:29:20.529 --> 00:29:23.529
God, a hateful God, a vengeful God, an angry

00:29:23.529 --> 00:29:32.450
God. You've all been taught wrong. Your father

00:29:32.450 --> 00:29:38.029
loves you. There is no judgment upon you with

00:29:38.029 --> 00:29:43.269
anything that you have done. Your father is love.

00:29:43.900 --> 00:29:47.720
A love that can never be put into words. It's

00:29:47.720 --> 00:29:51.019
what we're made out of. It's where we come from.

00:29:51.440 --> 00:29:54.920
And it's who we are. We are all unconditional

00:29:54.920 --> 00:29:59.119
love. We are all that of Father. And on the other

00:29:59.119 --> 00:30:01.339
side, there was no judgment. In the moment, I

00:30:01.339 --> 00:30:04.119
began to feel guilty for the things that I've

00:30:04.119 --> 00:30:08.460
done. More love was bestowed upon me. And I knew

00:30:08.460 --> 00:30:10.819
at that moment in time that I had done absolutely

00:30:10.819 --> 00:30:15.049
nothing wrong. Nothing wrong. And I was to not

00:30:15.049 --> 00:30:20.609
feel guilty. There was no judgment upon me. Ever.

00:30:21.910 --> 00:30:25.809
Ever. It took me a while when I came back to

00:30:25.809 --> 00:30:29.809
to let go of that guilt. And to forgive myself

00:30:29.809 --> 00:30:33.450
for the things that I have done in my life. But

00:30:33.450 --> 00:30:35.529
there is no judgment and anybody that's going

00:30:35.529 --> 00:30:38.109
to see this understand this now that your father

00:30:38.109 --> 00:30:42.859
loves you unconditionally without question or

00:30:42.859 --> 00:30:45.960
art fault. Just know that. Just know that you

00:30:45.960 --> 00:30:48.319
are loved and that there will be and there never

00:30:48.319 --> 00:30:53.440
has been any judgment held upon you. Sorry about

00:30:53.440 --> 00:30:56.160
that, I got emotional. Thank you very much for

00:30:56.160 --> 00:30:58.819
sharing that. I appreciate it. Before we move

00:30:58.819 --> 00:31:01.160
on and talk more about the spiritual things that

00:31:01.160 --> 00:31:04.039
you've learned during the experience and since

00:31:04.039 --> 00:31:07.490
then, Can you just give us a very brief wrap

00:31:07.490 --> 00:31:10.329
-up of physically what happened to you? How did

00:31:10.329 --> 00:31:14.789
you recover? Did it take very long? It was a

00:31:14.789 --> 00:31:17.210
long road to recovery. I had to learn how to

00:31:17.210 --> 00:31:19.349
walk. I had to learn how to talk. I had to learn

00:31:19.349 --> 00:31:23.509
how to feed myself. I checked myself out of the

00:31:23.509 --> 00:31:25.769
hospital. I had no business doing that because

00:31:25.769 --> 00:31:29.069
of those said effects. It took me a long time

00:31:29.069 --> 00:31:33.210
to get back on my feet. Then my company fired

00:31:33.210 --> 00:31:37.680
me. So I lost my job. I got my vehicle repossessed.

00:31:38.019 --> 00:31:39.960
Nobody would hire me because, again, it was in

00:31:39.960 --> 00:31:42.619
the midst of COVID pandemic. Unemployment wouldn't

00:31:42.619 --> 00:31:46.359
pay me. So I had eviction notices. I had no money

00:31:46.359 --> 00:31:49.759
coming in. So it was a very long road to recovery.

00:31:50.480 --> 00:31:54.519
But thank goodness I still had that feeling of

00:31:54.519 --> 00:31:57.579
being in there. I still had that unconditional

00:31:57.579 --> 00:32:00.339
love feeling. And I knew I was being taken care

00:32:00.339 --> 00:32:02.700
of, watched over. because you're never alone.

00:32:02.900 --> 00:32:04.940
That's something I wanted to say too. I haven't

00:32:04.940 --> 00:32:08.579
said this in a while. You are never alone. You

00:32:08.579 --> 00:32:11.180
have your guides with you. You have your archangel

00:32:11.180 --> 00:32:13.640
with you. Your father not only hears you, sees

00:32:13.640 --> 00:32:16.839
you, but he also feels you. Everything you're

00:32:16.839 --> 00:32:20.079
going through, he is going through. It may seem

00:32:20.079 --> 00:32:22.660
like you're alone. It may like seem you're abandoned,

00:32:22.700 --> 00:32:26.779
but you are not. You are alone. I felt my guides

00:32:26.779 --> 00:32:30.769
with me. I remember one morning I woke up and

00:32:30.769 --> 00:32:32.710
I moved and I felt somebody get off the side

00:32:32.710 --> 00:32:34.750
of my bed and I learned looked over there was

00:32:34.750 --> 00:32:38.170
nobody there but I felt somebody get off my bed

00:32:38.170 --> 00:32:41.410
and I was being taken care of and I was you know

00:32:41.410 --> 00:32:43.769
I was just never alone throughout that whole

00:32:43.769 --> 00:32:47.990
period and it was such a comforting feeling even

00:32:47.990 --> 00:32:50.210
though I was struggling physically in the body

00:32:50.210 --> 00:32:54.289
again to get up and get things going but eventually

00:32:54.289 --> 00:32:58.430
I did but it was very hard and I fell into depression

00:32:59.910 --> 00:33:02.910
because you began once again to feel the hate,

00:33:03.450 --> 00:33:06.769
the anger, the rage of the earth, of society.

00:33:07.369 --> 00:33:10.609
I was picking up on that and that was very difficult

00:33:10.609 --> 00:33:13.349
to have to deal with when I was still feeling

00:33:13.349 --> 00:33:16.990
that unconditional love of home. So it was a

00:33:16.990 --> 00:33:20.009
very, very difficult transition for me. I fell

00:33:20.009 --> 00:33:23.009
for probably two years into a depression. And

00:33:23.009 --> 00:33:24.930
now in those two years, I've had some profound

00:33:24.930 --> 00:33:28.200
spiritual experiences after that. But it was

00:33:28.200 --> 00:33:31.039
very difficult. People always say, I want a near

00:33:31.039 --> 00:33:34.319
-death experience. No, you don't. No, no, you

00:33:34.319 --> 00:33:37.680
don't. No. No, be careful what you wish for.

00:33:38.039 --> 00:33:40.660
Can you tell me any more about these angels and

00:33:40.660 --> 00:33:44.819
guides that we all have? Yes, I met my guide,

00:33:45.319 --> 00:33:47.480
not physically didn't see him, but recognized

00:33:47.480 --> 00:33:50.140
his presence. And I think I saw another one of

00:33:50.140 --> 00:33:53.220
my relatives or guides. I had an out -of -body

00:33:53.220 --> 00:33:56.839
experience in, was it 2020? I don't know if you're

00:33:56.839 --> 00:33:59.400
a football fan or not. Oh, it was the night Devar

00:33:59.400 --> 00:34:01.559
Hamelin died on the football field. It was the

00:34:01.559 --> 00:34:03.960
last time I watched TV. I had an out of body

00:34:03.960 --> 00:34:06.839
experience. Our guides are with us in the same

00:34:06.839 --> 00:34:08.860
room with you. They're watching you. They watch

00:34:08.860 --> 00:34:11.199
you take a shower, take a poop, make dinner,

00:34:11.219 --> 00:34:13.800
eat, go out with friends. They are around you.

00:34:13.960 --> 00:34:16.940
Your archangel or your protector. That is your

00:34:16.940 --> 00:34:19.300
intuition that tells you when something, hey,

00:34:19.480 --> 00:34:22.139
don't go there. Don't do this. Or you get that

00:34:22.139 --> 00:34:25.170
sixth sense, that gut feeling. that's your archangel,

00:34:25.329 --> 00:34:28.070
that's your guide, talking to you. They're always

00:34:28.070 --> 00:34:29.869
with you. They never leave. From the time you

00:34:29.869 --> 00:34:31.610
were created, they've been with you and they

00:34:31.610 --> 00:34:34.909
will never leave you for eternity. Did you learn

00:34:34.909 --> 00:34:37.909
anything about who they are? For example, is

00:34:37.909 --> 00:34:40.909
there some kind of relationship? Were they ancestors

00:34:40.909 --> 00:34:43.849
or were they just some sort of other angels that

00:34:43.849 --> 00:34:47.550
God created or who are they? They are generally

00:34:48.730 --> 00:34:51.250
Past relatives or relations most of them that

00:34:51.250 --> 00:34:53.690
you've never met like a great great great great

00:34:53.690 --> 00:34:56.710
great grandfather or uncle or cousin Who has

00:34:56.710 --> 00:34:59.670
just a fond affection for you and decided that

00:34:59.670 --> 00:35:02.590
they would take on that role as your guardians

00:35:02.590 --> 00:35:05.849
So whatever lifetime you've gone into they're

00:35:05.849 --> 00:35:08.809
always there with you They take part in you creating

00:35:08.809 --> 00:35:12.090
your life and so on so forth. But yeah, they're

00:35:12.090 --> 00:35:15.190
generally family members as you said ancestors

00:35:15.550 --> 00:35:18.949
So now your archangel that's with you, your protector,

00:35:19.030 --> 00:35:22.110
whatever, we all have them. Now they were created

00:35:22.110 --> 00:35:25.170
when Father created the angels. So each of us

00:35:25.170 --> 00:35:28.489
have an archangel attached to us. And again,

00:35:28.630 --> 00:35:33.510
they will never leave you. Ever. Never. In all

00:35:33.510 --> 00:35:36.650
of eternity. They are with you for eternity.

00:35:37.670 --> 00:35:41.610
Do you feel like these angels, these who are

00:35:41.610 --> 00:35:44.170
probably ancestors, as you put it, and that makes

00:35:44.170 --> 00:35:47.679
sense to me? Do you feel like we knew them before

00:35:47.679 --> 00:35:51.579
we came here to this earth? Oh, yeah Without

00:35:51.579 --> 00:35:55.380
question without question See the thing is is

00:35:55.380 --> 00:35:58.300
we put ourselves into a deep sleep or what we

00:35:58.300 --> 00:36:01.360
call amnesia We've when we come here and we incarnate

00:36:01.360 --> 00:36:05.099
when when you Start to create life or what we

00:36:05.099 --> 00:36:07.360
call the physical body. We vibrate at such a

00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:10.000
high frequency I mean, it's it's unbelievable

00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:13.019
how we vibrate when I told you I was juiced right

00:36:13.019 --> 00:36:16.639
house I was vibrating at my natural frequency,

00:36:16.880 --> 00:36:19.199
which was because I was out of the body. I was

00:36:19.199 --> 00:36:23.239
at the home. But when we choose to incarnate,

00:36:23.500 --> 00:36:26.239
when we get mom and dad to mate and create a

00:36:26.239 --> 00:36:29.300
baby, right? Well, we create the baby or the

00:36:29.300 --> 00:36:33.039
ego does. We begin to lower our vibration to

00:36:33.039 --> 00:36:35.960
come into this three dimensional world. Therefore,

00:36:36.019 --> 00:36:39.280
what happens is we begin to condense matter.

00:36:39.900 --> 00:36:43.260
And when that happens. you know it as a baby

00:36:43.260 --> 00:36:47.880
is formed. So we lower our vibration and therefore

00:36:47.880 --> 00:36:50.739
we create the body. We look exactly the way we

00:36:50.739 --> 00:36:52.619
want to look because that's the way our ego wants

00:36:52.619 --> 00:36:55.179
us to look. You look the way you look, I look

00:36:55.179 --> 00:36:58.619
the way I look. That is how the baby is formed,

00:36:59.159 --> 00:37:01.500
is we begin to lower that vibration when we go

00:37:01.500 --> 00:37:04.420
into mom and so we take over the creation of

00:37:04.420 --> 00:37:07.179
our body. How we want it to look, so on so forth,

00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:11.090
eyes, whatever. And then while that baby is being

00:37:11.090 --> 00:37:13.510
formed, or what we call the fetus in this world,

00:37:14.010 --> 00:37:17.210
is that soul will come in and out of that body

00:37:17.210 --> 00:37:22.530
many, many, many times, right? Because once again,

00:37:22.550 --> 00:37:25.349
it's leaving everything that's ever known. That's

00:37:25.349 --> 00:37:27.670
fearful. The soul comes in and out of the fetus

00:37:27.670 --> 00:37:29.829
many, many times, and then finally father says,

00:37:29.889 --> 00:37:32.510
okay, this is the last time. So each time the

00:37:32.510 --> 00:37:34.650
baby would go home, it gets knowledge, it gets

00:37:34.650 --> 00:37:38.070
the wisdom, hey, you're talking with our overlord.

00:37:38.219 --> 00:37:41.840
and he's strictly in charge of our growth, spiritual

00:37:41.840 --> 00:37:44.579
growth in these incarnations, like a supervisor

00:37:44.579 --> 00:37:49.019
at work, basically, and a great deal goes into

00:37:49.019 --> 00:37:51.480
creating a life. There isn't just a, you know,

00:37:51.579 --> 00:37:55.440
wham -bam, thank you ma 'am, right? It's with

00:37:55.440 --> 00:37:58.059
your overlord, you're with your archangel, you're

00:37:58.059 --> 00:38:01.300
with your guides, and you create this experience

00:38:01.300 --> 00:38:03.599
that you want to experience. Then you bring it

00:38:03.599 --> 00:38:06.179
before Father, like a piece of paper, a contract,

00:38:06.780 --> 00:38:09.469
say, This is what I want to father agrees to

00:38:09.469 --> 00:38:13.630
it. Or you may say you need to change some things,

00:38:13.650 --> 00:38:16.110
right? Because I think you're taking on too much

00:38:16.110 --> 00:38:18.610
and go back and redo it. And it's like walking

00:38:18.610 --> 00:38:20.969
into a buffet, a restaurant that you've never

00:38:20.969 --> 00:38:23.090
walked into, but this huge buffet. So you're

00:38:23.090 --> 00:38:24.989
going down this buffet line and you're picking

00:38:24.989 --> 00:38:27.150
out. So, oh, I want to try cancer. Oh, what does

00:38:27.150 --> 00:38:29.230
it look like with my arm lopped off? What about

00:38:29.230 --> 00:38:31.610
a leg? Oh, how about blind? How about being raped?

00:38:31.630 --> 00:38:33.949
How about right? So you're picking what you want

00:38:33.949 --> 00:38:36.489
to experience. Just like that. It's exactly what

00:38:36.489 --> 00:38:39.349
it is. Oh, I want to be raped. Oh, I want my

00:38:39.349 --> 00:38:41.449
child to die at this age. Oh, I want, you know,

00:38:41.690 --> 00:38:43.989
I want cancer, you know, so you pick out what

00:38:43.989 --> 00:38:46.369
you want. And then again, you bring before father

00:38:46.369 --> 00:38:48.489
and father will agree to it. There's no way you

00:38:48.489 --> 00:38:51.789
can come here without his saying so. End of subject.

00:38:52.210 --> 00:38:54.369
Then you get your contract or what you it's a

00:38:54.369 --> 00:38:56.630
life contract. Right. So you're just not going

00:38:56.630 --> 00:38:58.849
to complete it in one lifetime. It's going to

00:38:58.849 --> 00:39:01.130
take hundreds and hundreds, if not, you know,

00:39:01.250 --> 00:39:04.869
maybe twelve hundred. lifetimes for you to finish

00:39:04.869 --> 00:39:06.710
what you wanted to start, and Father would say,

00:39:07.170 --> 00:39:10.489
okay, and then the journey begins. Okay, a couple

00:39:10.489 --> 00:39:15.230
of questions here. Yeah. It's easy for us, while

00:39:15.230 --> 00:39:17.909
we're here in this life, to realize how hard

00:39:17.909 --> 00:39:20.989
those things are if we chose some of those really

00:39:20.989 --> 00:39:24.849
tough things. Why did we choose them? Did we

00:39:24.849 --> 00:39:27.969
just not understand previously before we came

00:39:27.969 --> 00:39:31.110
how hard it would be to get you used examples

00:39:31.110 --> 00:39:34.849
of losing a limb or being raped or some other

00:39:34.849 --> 00:39:37.909
horrible thing? Did we just not get it? Why would

00:39:37.909 --> 00:39:40.829
we choose stuff like that? See, when you're on

00:39:40.829 --> 00:39:43.349
the other side or when you're home, when you

00:39:43.349 --> 00:39:46.610
are in oneness with the father, when you're in

00:39:46.610 --> 00:39:49.210
all this, when you're in this unconditional love,

00:39:50.150 --> 00:39:55.909
you don't grow through love and Easy. Where do

00:39:55.909 --> 00:40:00.170
you gain your most knowledge from the most difficult

00:40:00.170 --> 00:40:03.050
parts of your life, don't you? Whether you've

00:40:03.050 --> 00:40:05.130
gone through a divorce, the death of a child,

00:40:05.550 --> 00:40:08.409
death of a parent, whatever it may be, almost

00:40:08.409 --> 00:40:12.309
drowning in a lake, you grow through pain. You

00:40:12.309 --> 00:40:15.849
grow through suffering. It's not meant to destroy

00:40:15.849 --> 00:40:18.170
you, it's meant for you to grow from. But what

00:40:18.170 --> 00:40:20.889
does this human species do? We get caught up

00:40:20.889 --> 00:40:23.670
in the pain. Well, you cheated on me. God doesn't

00:40:23.670 --> 00:40:25.550
care about your marriage. Marriage means nothing

00:40:25.550 --> 00:40:27.949
to God. But you get caught up in, I hate you

00:40:27.949 --> 00:40:30.789
now, right? You get caught up in that moment.

00:40:31.230 --> 00:40:34.909
But it's a spiritual growth moment. It's not

00:40:34.909 --> 00:40:37.929
meant to cripple you. But we have a tendency,

00:40:38.090 --> 00:40:41.349
this species does, to hold onto that pain, hold

00:40:41.349 --> 00:40:43.710
onto that grief, hold onto that sorrow and not

00:40:43.710 --> 00:40:46.769
let it go. Then we carry that darkness and that

00:40:46.769 --> 00:40:49.550
fear within us. We're not to fear anything. Fear

00:40:49.550 --> 00:40:52.530
is an illusion. So we grow through these things.

00:40:53.750 --> 00:40:57.210
Absolutely. Those are growth opportunities. They

00:40:57.210 --> 00:40:59.630
are not fun, but that's what they're here for.

00:41:00.250 --> 00:41:02.610
But a lot of people are going to argue with you.

00:41:02.809 --> 00:41:04.530
This is where I'm going to get into some of the

00:41:04.530 --> 00:41:07.070
hard questions, Jason. A lot of people are going

00:41:07.070 --> 00:41:09.590
to argue with you and say, I would have never

00:41:09.590 --> 00:41:14.130
chosen that. And right. Well, unfortunately you

00:41:14.130 --> 00:41:17.909
did. Why? Because you want to grow from it. And

00:41:17.909 --> 00:41:20.880
the reason you can't remember what you chose.

00:41:21.239 --> 00:41:24.000
The reason you can't remember that you put yourself

00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:27.679
into a sleep or an amnesia is because if you

00:41:27.679 --> 00:41:29.480
knew what you were about to go through, would

00:41:29.480 --> 00:41:31.719
you go through it? Now if I told you tomorrow

00:41:31.719 --> 00:41:33.679
you're going to your son is going to die and

00:41:33.679 --> 00:41:36.039
then two years after that your wife is going

00:41:36.039 --> 00:41:38.619
to die and then your company is going to fold

00:41:38.619 --> 00:41:42.679
and now you've just lost your entire 401k. You're

00:41:42.679 --> 00:41:44.059
going to go through with it? You're going to

00:41:44.059 --> 00:41:48.219
go, hell no, no, no. Nope, I choose something

00:41:48.219 --> 00:41:51.300
different. Unfortunately, I would choose the

00:41:51.300 --> 00:41:54.440
easy path, which I'm not going to learn anything

00:41:54.440 --> 00:41:57.019
from, right? Then we might as well just stay

00:41:57.019 --> 00:41:59.820
at home because that's what home is like. Home,

00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:04.559
the best way to describe home is like the best

00:42:04.559 --> 00:42:07.380
orgasm you have ever had when you are at the

00:42:07.380 --> 00:42:10.940
pinnacle of it, right? Of this feeling, right?

00:42:10.940 --> 00:42:14.239
Of this orgasm and now multiply it by a billion.

00:42:14.900 --> 00:42:19.340
That is what it's like to be at home. That feeling

00:42:19.340 --> 00:42:23.920
of pure ecstasy of pure love of pure everything

00:42:23.920 --> 00:42:28.039
in that moment before it all Just that trillions

00:42:28.039 --> 00:42:31.460
of a second before the climax explodes that right

00:42:31.460 --> 00:42:34.820
there is what home is like You're not gonna grow

00:42:34.820 --> 00:42:37.539
at home. You're not gonna grow in all this So

00:42:37.539 --> 00:42:39.719
you come down here to experience getting hit

00:42:39.719 --> 00:42:43.239
by a car experience getting stabbed Experience

00:42:43.239 --> 00:42:47.409
what I'm going through right now, right? Let's

00:42:47.409 --> 00:42:49.769
talk about that for a second. Do you mind Jason?

00:42:50.170 --> 00:42:53.809
No, go ahead. Are you okay with Being vulnerable

00:42:53.809 --> 00:42:56.210
enough to tell everybody what you're going through

00:42:56.210 --> 00:42:58.250
right now because it's a good example of this

00:42:58.250 --> 00:43:01.829
whole principle Yeah, I mean I've been if people

00:43:01.829 --> 00:43:04.170
go to my channel and we can talk about that later

00:43:04.170 --> 00:43:07.269
I've never held anything back from anybody. So

00:43:07.269 --> 00:43:10.349
my near -death happened in 2020 I'll just go

00:43:10.349 --> 00:43:12.010
through some brief moments. If you want to cover

00:43:12.010 --> 00:43:15.880
them later, that's fine 2022, I had a profound

00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:19.179
out -of -body experience, which was phenomenal.

00:43:19.820 --> 00:43:24.320
Then a year later, I had two visitations with

00:43:24.320 --> 00:43:28.380
angels. Then I had another out -of -body experience.

00:43:29.119 --> 00:43:34.119
And in 2024, I had, was it Easter of 2024? Yep.

00:43:34.360 --> 00:43:38.280
I had another meeting with an angel in the physical.

00:43:38.739 --> 00:43:47.019
Then I came home mid -summer. 2024 or 25 and

00:43:47.019 --> 00:43:50.400
my whole apartment was ransacked. But yet my

00:43:50.400 --> 00:43:52.480
doors were locked and I can get into this later.

00:43:52.699 --> 00:43:57.119
Then I had another profound experience in 2025.

00:43:57.500 --> 00:44:01.159
But what had happened is my life came to a crashing

00:44:01.159 --> 00:44:06.099
halt in Wisconsin. Meaning they raised my rent.

00:44:06.199 --> 00:44:09.380
I was not happy at the job. That ended up collapsing.

00:44:09.519 --> 00:44:12.289
I ended up quitting there. And the reason I'm

00:44:12.289 --> 00:44:15.650
in the predicament is now because in April of

00:44:15.650 --> 00:44:19.429
2023, or no, March of 2023, one of the meetings

00:44:19.429 --> 00:44:23.369
I had with an angel led me to this part of what

00:44:23.369 --> 00:44:26.429
I'm going through now. And I came out of sushi

00:44:26.429 --> 00:44:28.969
with a woman I was trying to date, which was

00:44:28.969 --> 00:44:31.409
a bad idea. That was not meant to happen. It

00:44:31.409 --> 00:44:34.949
was clear. But I had this profound meeting, this

00:44:34.949 --> 00:44:37.179
person. who I thought was a person at the time,

00:44:37.300 --> 00:44:39.480
was sitting at the very back of my Jeep, dressed

00:44:39.480 --> 00:44:43.239
like a bum, bag, cane, ratty clothes, but his

00:44:43.239 --> 00:44:45.739
face looked very familiar. And it was the second

00:44:45.739 --> 00:44:49.480
time I saw this angel. This time his clothing

00:44:49.480 --> 00:44:51.800
and his physical appearance was changed, meaning

00:44:51.800 --> 00:44:54.420
his hair color was changed, same haircut style,

00:44:54.599 --> 00:44:57.880
and beard color was changed from a brunette to

00:44:57.880 --> 00:45:01.880
a red, not light red, but a darker red. He goes,

00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:06.880
hi, how are you? and I'm smiling and I'm feeling

00:45:06.880 --> 00:45:10.940
this energy draw and I want to explain to you

00:45:10.940 --> 00:45:12.760
why I'm here going through this and I have to

00:45:12.760 --> 00:45:16.300
explain this so he's like you like video games

00:45:16.300 --> 00:45:19.219
and I'm like I'm trying to put two and two together

00:45:19.219 --> 00:45:22.500
I just can't the woman that I was with she's

00:45:22.500 --> 00:45:25.559
getting freaked out he goes oh I'm here in Wisconsin

00:45:25.559 --> 00:45:27.980
because I'm helping helping somebody here get

00:45:27.980 --> 00:45:30.880
a divorce I'm gonna be going up to a Conama walk

00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:34.710
long story short She was going through a divorce

00:45:34.710 --> 00:45:38.010
and he was like she looked at me freaked out

00:45:38.010 --> 00:45:40.590
because Basically, he was telling us our entire

00:45:40.590 --> 00:45:44.449
story without even she freaked out ran into the

00:45:44.449 --> 00:45:49.409
van and he goes, you know It's really about love

00:45:49.409 --> 00:45:52.349
And he tried to give me a fist bump. I'm feeling

00:45:52.349 --> 00:45:56.050
this energy and he goes, you know It's really

00:45:56.050 --> 00:45:58.530
about the love and he tried to give me a fist

00:45:58.530 --> 00:46:01.449
bump And third time he goes, you know, love is

00:46:01.449 --> 00:46:04.010
really everything. It's all there is. And I gave

00:46:04.010 --> 00:46:06.969
him a fist bump and I go, yes, you're right.

00:46:07.030 --> 00:46:09.889
It is. Love is the only thing that matters. I

00:46:09.889 --> 00:46:12.730
said, I had a near death experience three years

00:46:12.730 --> 00:46:15.210
ago. And he sat up and he looked at me and he

00:46:15.210 --> 00:46:19.050
turned his head sideways. I know you did. And

00:46:19.050 --> 00:46:22.230
I'm like, whoa, whoa. So I turned around to make

00:46:22.230 --> 00:46:24.760
sure she's okay over my shoulder. And I turned

00:46:24.760 --> 00:46:26.679
around, because he was sitting over this way.

00:46:26.820 --> 00:46:28.780
So I turned around, and now he's standing in

00:46:28.780 --> 00:46:33.300
front of me. And I'm like, whoa, no sound, nothing.

00:46:33.880 --> 00:46:39.059
And he goes, your name is Jason, right? I was

00:46:39.059 --> 00:46:43.639
like, I never told you my name, man. And he goes,

00:46:43.739 --> 00:46:47.480
I didn't mean to scare her. And he said, would

00:46:47.480 --> 00:46:50.619
you walk with me? He said, I'm grabbing my bag.

00:46:50.619 --> 00:46:53.079
So I grabbed his bag. And he says, you know,

00:46:53.079 --> 00:46:57.159
I'm an alcoholic. And he says, you know, he said,

00:46:57.219 --> 00:47:01.000
you know, last month I drank 110. He said, you

00:47:01.000 --> 00:47:05.300
drank $110 ,000 worth of alcohol. I said, wow,

00:47:05.420 --> 00:47:08.440
you don't stink. And on top of that, you have

00:47:08.440 --> 00:47:10.639
no, your hand is cold. There was no blood in

00:47:10.639 --> 00:47:12.760
it. Like when you touch a dead body, that coldness.

00:47:12.880 --> 00:47:14.599
So when I gave him a fist bump, there was that,

00:47:14.599 --> 00:47:16.559
with that kind of feeling, right? And I'm like,

00:47:16.940 --> 00:47:18.579
and he says, you know, you're kind of scraping

00:47:18.579 --> 00:47:22.679
the bottom of the barrel. Oh, I said, oh. Thanks.

00:47:22.780 --> 00:47:24.920
Thanks for rubbing some salt into an old wound."

00:47:24.920 --> 00:47:28.539
I said, yeah, I spent my whole life. Money has

00:47:28.539 --> 00:47:31.519
never been my... Now he's walking in front of

00:47:31.519 --> 00:47:34.000
me. Wasn't walking beside me anymore. He's walking

00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:36.940
in front of me. He really wasn't walking very

00:47:36.940 --> 00:47:39.539
much with a limp anymore. That kind of went away.

00:47:40.440 --> 00:47:43.539
So he said, would you be okay with that? And

00:47:43.539 --> 00:47:47.780
I'm like, okay with what? Making $110 ,000? I'm

00:47:47.780 --> 00:47:51.659
barely making $30 ,000 a year. Yeah. Yeah, I'd

00:47:51.659 --> 00:47:56.199
be okay with that. He goes, great. And he's walking

00:47:56.199 --> 00:47:58.539
a little bit. He goes, would you be willing to

00:47:58.539 --> 00:48:03.960
relocate? I said, relocate? Yeah, where? And

00:48:03.960 --> 00:48:09.400
he goes, hmm. How about Sacramento? California?

00:48:10.260 --> 00:48:12.480
I said, for that kind of money, sure. Great,

00:48:12.519 --> 00:48:15.380
he could walk with me. So I walk him into the

00:48:15.380 --> 00:48:18.960
bar, which was a steakhouse. He goes, Jason?

00:48:19.159 --> 00:48:21.440
And again, I didn't tell him my name. He goes,

00:48:22.039 --> 00:48:24.019
it was a pleasure and honor speaking with you.

00:48:24.139 --> 00:48:27.619
And he said, you'll hear from me again. And I

00:48:27.619 --> 00:48:31.639
said, OK. Said, you know, it's nice meeting you.

00:48:31.639 --> 00:48:34.320
And I said, you know, good luck. And I start

00:48:34.320 --> 00:48:37.139
leaving the restaurant. And I said, no, I got

00:48:37.139 --> 00:48:39.679
to turn around. And I turn around. The restaurant's

00:48:39.679 --> 00:48:43.159
full. He's nowhere to be seen. Ran back to the

00:48:43.159 --> 00:48:47.219
Jeep. Long story short, that is why when my life

00:48:47.219 --> 00:48:54.099
collapsed in 2025 in July, I knew I had to go

00:48:54.099 --> 00:48:57.559
to Sacramento. So I took my whole life. I saved

00:48:57.559 --> 00:49:00.420
my couch, my bed, and a few other things in a

00:49:00.420 --> 00:49:03.579
U -Haul crate, packed it to the brim and everything

00:49:03.579 --> 00:49:05.980
else. I was trying to get everything. What can

00:49:05.980 --> 00:49:08.519
I do? I heard purge. So I took my whole life

00:49:08.519 --> 00:49:11.400
and I threw it all in the dumpster, locked it

00:49:11.400 --> 00:49:15.519
up, got in my car. and I started driving to California.

00:49:15.639 --> 00:49:18.300
Not only did I not have a job, I was out of money

00:49:18.300 --> 00:49:22.460
and I have no family out in California. I slept

00:49:22.460 --> 00:49:25.219
in my car at rest stops the entire way there.

00:49:25.880 --> 00:49:28.639
I had saved a bunch of canned food, two boxes,

00:49:29.039 --> 00:49:31.320
so I would eat a can of green beans or a can

00:49:31.320 --> 00:49:34.219
of corn or a can of mixed fruit. That's what

00:49:34.219 --> 00:49:37.000
I would eat all day. I would have a can of that.

00:49:37.840 --> 00:49:41.059
Got to California. I got to Sacramento. I was

00:49:41.059 --> 00:49:42.659
kicked out of there. I tried to sleep, but a

00:49:42.659 --> 00:49:45.599
truck stop was kicked out, ran down, slept in

00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:48.199
my car for two months. Then I had another profound

00:49:48.199 --> 00:49:51.980
angel experience. And these events just keep

00:49:51.980 --> 00:49:54.760
coming. So when I was sitting there, a person

00:49:54.760 --> 00:49:57.579
saw me in the rest area, followed me back to

00:49:57.579 --> 00:50:00.980
my car, and he says, you don't mind if I... I

00:50:00.980 --> 00:50:03.159
parked over there. It says no parking. So I said,

00:50:03.739 --> 00:50:06.500
pal, I've been here for two months. No, nobody

00:50:06.500 --> 00:50:09.780
cares. And he's looking around and he goes...

00:50:09.760 --> 00:50:12.260
He was reading my mind, he says, you know, you're

00:50:12.260 --> 00:50:14.579
looking for a girlfriend and I have one and do

00:50:14.579 --> 00:50:17.119
you want her? And I'm like, no, I said, I love

00:50:17.119 --> 00:50:20.179
someone very much. I said, she's back in Wisconsin,

00:50:20.239 --> 00:50:23.480
but she'll be out here by with me. He leaned

00:50:23.480 --> 00:50:27.260
in, he goes, you're Jason, right? And I'm like,

00:50:28.079 --> 00:50:30.699
now this guy's talking with a thick European

00:50:30.699 --> 00:50:34.960
accent, older than me. I said, who are you? He

00:50:34.960 --> 00:50:39.170
goes, you put me here. How? Who are you? I said,

00:50:39.289 --> 00:50:41.630
are you a guide? I said, either that or you're

00:50:41.630 --> 00:50:44.150
ascended master. He leans in. He goes, Jason,

00:50:45.110 --> 00:50:49.710
you put me here. Jason, you're in alignment and

00:50:49.710 --> 00:50:55.190
you're powerful. You need to move now. Where?

00:50:55.849 --> 00:50:58.550
Who are you? I'm feeling this right now. I'm

00:50:58.550 --> 00:51:00.530
beginning to cry. I'm starting to talk to him.

00:51:00.550 --> 00:51:02.809
He goes, Jason, you're telling me nothing I don't

00:51:02.809 --> 00:51:06.789
already know. You're in alignment and you're

00:51:06.789 --> 00:51:10.769
powerful you need to move now And I said look

00:51:10.769 --> 00:51:12.789
out there and he's looking around I said, that's

00:51:12.789 --> 00:51:16.949
all me Everybody hears me. He goes you put me

00:51:16.949 --> 00:51:21.530
here and he goes for the interview. I Said what

00:51:21.530 --> 00:51:24.710
interview? He says you need some he's looking

00:51:24.710 --> 00:51:28.210
and he says You need some new clothes go buy

00:51:28.210 --> 00:51:30.329
a pair of pants and a nice shirt and he says

00:51:30.329 --> 00:51:33.210
don't talk about your spirituality And I knew

00:51:33.210 --> 00:51:34.769
what he meant by, you need to move. You need

00:51:34.769 --> 00:51:37.869
to go back up to Sacramento. And he said, somebody

00:51:37.869 --> 00:51:41.750
needs you. He turned around and left and disappeared.

00:51:42.590 --> 00:51:44.449
I woke up that morning. My phone wouldn't work.

00:51:44.570 --> 00:51:48.210
I couldn't text. I couldn't call. So my phone

00:51:48.210 --> 00:51:52.550
got shut down. So I packed everything up and

00:51:52.550 --> 00:51:55.050
got dressed and went to Sacramento, got a hotel.

00:51:56.150 --> 00:51:59.449
A day later, I got a call from a company. They

00:51:59.449 --> 00:52:02.329
hired me. I started it a week later. Got the

00:52:02.329 --> 00:52:06.690
job. Then I flew out to Next Level Seoul with

00:52:06.690 --> 00:52:09.730
Alex Ferrari, this house that I'm living at for

00:52:09.730 --> 00:52:12.590
now. They bought me the plane ticket and got

00:52:12.590 --> 00:52:15.530
me a hotel out in Texas, where I'm at now. Not

00:52:15.530 --> 00:52:17.909
in Sacramento anymore. I left. Didn't go to Next

00:52:17.909 --> 00:52:20.190
Level Seoul. And then on the way back, I contacted

00:52:20.190 --> 00:52:22.110
this guy at Uber. Didn't think anything about

00:52:22.110 --> 00:52:24.579
it. Do you think of your Uber ride or no? So

00:52:24.579 --> 00:52:26.760
I get in this car, and a young black lady is

00:52:26.760 --> 00:52:28.760
picking on me because of my name. She goes, what

00:52:28.760 --> 00:52:31.000
you here in Texas for? I said, oh, I just did

00:52:31.000 --> 00:52:33.820
an interview, beautiful studio about my death.

00:52:33.840 --> 00:52:36.219
And she goes, you died? So we started talking,

00:52:37.039 --> 00:52:40.539
and she just busted out bawling. And I was talking

00:52:40.539 --> 00:52:42.719
about love and how I love all of you and this

00:52:42.719 --> 00:52:45.780
experience that I had. And she goes, Jason, you

00:52:45.780 --> 00:52:48.900
don't know how much I needed this. I said, what

00:52:48.900 --> 00:52:52.000
did you say? I sat up. She goes, you don't know

00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:55.630
how much I needed this. exactly what the angel

00:52:55.630 --> 00:53:00.510
said in October. Somebody needs you. Jason, you

00:53:00.510 --> 00:53:03.590
don't understand how much I needed this. And

00:53:03.590 --> 00:53:06.489
she says, over and over, we're talking for 20

00:53:06.489 --> 00:53:09.050
minutes, 20 minute ride back to my hotel. And

00:53:09.050 --> 00:53:10.909
she said, I need to hug you. Can I please give

00:53:10.909 --> 00:53:14.389
you a hug? So I got out and I gave, I mean, she

00:53:14.389 --> 00:53:16.809
bare hugged me, this beautiful young black woman.

00:53:17.000 --> 00:53:19.579
probably in her early 20s as an Uber rider trying

00:53:19.579 --> 00:53:21.639
to make right. She just gave me this hug and

00:53:21.639 --> 00:53:23.400
I wiped the tears from her eyes and I said, I

00:53:23.400 --> 00:53:25.260
love you very much. And I said, you're going

00:53:25.260 --> 00:53:28.079
to be okay. Right. And then I walked away and

00:53:28.079 --> 00:53:30.519
I was like that. I just met the person. That

00:53:30.519 --> 00:53:33.000
angel told me that needed me. How was I supposed

00:53:33.000 --> 00:53:35.320
to know it was in Texas? Right. Get back to this

00:53:35.320 --> 00:53:38.079
job. Ended up losing the job a few months later.

00:53:38.920 --> 00:53:42.590
Now. Back to being homeless, right? I spent all

00:53:42.590 --> 00:53:45.389
my money I had saved in a hotel trying to thinking

00:53:45.389 --> 00:53:50.090
I needed to stay in California which Wasn't then

00:53:50.090 --> 00:53:52.409
I went to back to living in my car at a different

00:53:52.409 --> 00:53:57.570
truck stop and then lo and behold I got kicked

00:53:57.570 --> 00:54:02.349
out of there which divine timing and then I ended

00:54:02.349 --> 00:54:04.909
up driving down to Texas. They offered me this

00:54:04.909 --> 00:54:08.730
place to stay they're gonna get me a camper to

00:54:09.289 --> 00:54:11.530
travel with and to get into, you know, truck

00:54:11.530 --> 00:54:14.110
stop, not a truck stop, but a, you know, a park

00:54:14.110 --> 00:54:16.989
to RV and RV and land and stuff. And they're

00:54:16.989 --> 00:54:19.329
going to pay for things. And I'm like, I went

00:54:19.329 --> 00:54:21.750
from having what you would consider your life

00:54:21.750 --> 00:54:24.150
in order. You know, like you get up, you go to

00:54:24.150 --> 00:54:26.010
work, you pay your bills, you have a shower,

00:54:26.650 --> 00:54:30.170
make, have regular food to my life being this

00:54:30.170 --> 00:54:32.929
just utterly chaotic mess and what you would

00:54:32.929 --> 00:54:36.989
think destitute. Right. I don't have a job. Don't

00:54:36.989 --> 00:54:41.650
have a home. Went from California now I'm out

00:54:41.650 --> 00:54:44.230
here in Texas only to get this trailer in this

00:54:44.230 --> 00:54:46.949
camper to go back into the Flagstaff area where

00:54:46.949 --> 00:54:48.929
I want to be because you know I greatly enjoy

00:54:48.929 --> 00:54:51.429
Arizona in the mountains. It's just breathtakingly

00:54:51.429 --> 00:54:54.130
beautiful and These are the kind of things that

00:54:54.130 --> 00:54:56.010
I'm going through so people that want a near

00:54:56.010 --> 00:54:59.050
-death experience and you know go through this

00:54:59.050 --> 00:55:02.809
awakening in 2023 also I had my ascension into

00:55:02.809 --> 00:55:06.440
the 5d which was brutal I went from my carbon

00:55:06.440 --> 00:55:10.179
-based body into my crystalline body, which was,

00:55:10.460 --> 00:55:14.019
and I lost my job again. And then on top of all

00:55:14.019 --> 00:55:17.019
of that, you have to remind yourself, I chose

00:55:17.019 --> 00:55:21.679
this. That's it, right? I chose this. That doesn't

00:55:21.679 --> 00:55:24.760
make it any easier. And I found that out when,

00:55:25.019 --> 00:55:27.420
just before I left California, because I quantum

00:55:27.420 --> 00:55:31.179
leaked into a higher timeline, when I got out,

00:55:31.239 --> 00:55:33.639
when I... regressed and went back into the shower

00:55:33.639 --> 00:55:36.699
and I said, you know, I'm out of money. So I

00:55:36.699 --> 00:55:38.559
call God sometimes when I'm stressed, I call

00:55:38.559 --> 00:55:41.820
him pal. I said, listen, pal, you know, my funds,

00:55:42.119 --> 00:55:44.539
I'm out of money. I'm out of food. And in three

00:55:44.539 --> 00:55:46.840
days, I truly do not want to go back to living

00:55:46.840 --> 00:55:50.159
in my car. I would really prefer not to. So all

00:55:50.159 --> 00:55:53.579
the help and assistance is, is, is duly appreciated.

00:55:54.099 --> 00:55:57.190
So I sat down on the bed, right. And I heard,

00:55:57.349 --> 00:55:59.630
get the book. So I got the book and I knew exactly

00:55:59.630 --> 00:56:01.869
what it was. Started reading. I'm like, oh my

00:56:01.869 --> 00:56:06.110
God, I did this. I chose this. I chose to be

00:56:06.110 --> 00:56:07.789
a chosen one, which is the higher frequency.

00:56:08.150 --> 00:56:11.110
I chose this life. I chose every part of it.

00:56:11.710 --> 00:56:14.070
And that is when I truly accepted it, right?

00:56:14.150 --> 00:56:16.429
In this aha moment, the light bulb went off and

00:56:16.429 --> 00:56:19.070
I felt this explosion of warmth for me. I got

00:56:19.070 --> 00:56:22.179
up. And for the first time since being in California,

00:56:22.179 --> 00:56:24.079
I opened up my hotel room and I said, I love

00:56:24.079 --> 00:56:26.159
being here. I said, it's just beautiful. Look

00:56:26.159 --> 00:56:31.000
at this, right? Things are blooming and I said,

00:56:31.059 --> 00:56:35.179
it's just beautiful. And then three days later,

00:56:35.179 --> 00:56:39.340
I was back to living in my car, but I chose to

00:56:39.340 --> 00:56:43.000
love the experience of being in my car. I said,

00:56:43.059 --> 00:56:45.699
it's like the emperor's new clothes. I've been

00:56:45.699 --> 00:56:48.320
here. I've done it before. Okay. I can handle

00:56:48.320 --> 00:56:51.179
this, I got it, no worries. And it was really

00:56:51.179 --> 00:56:55.380
the act of surrendering, really truly surrendering

00:56:55.380 --> 00:56:57.699
to the moment, knowing that I was fine, knowing

00:56:57.699 --> 00:57:02.320
that I was safe, knowing that I've done it before

00:57:02.320 --> 00:57:05.880
and everything is going to work out. After that

00:57:05.880 --> 00:57:09.340
aha moment, I was getting groceries at Walmart

00:57:09.340 --> 00:57:13.900
in California and I was coming back and it was

00:57:13.900 --> 00:57:16.099
after the night I said get the book and I had

00:57:16.099 --> 00:57:20.460
this beautiful moment. and began to love my new

00:57:20.460 --> 00:57:23.019
job, which is teaching. As I started my website,

00:57:23.380 --> 00:57:25.639
I started my YouTube channel, so I have two businesses.

00:57:26.079 --> 00:57:29.320
I began to love that unconditionally, like I'm

00:57:29.320 --> 00:57:33.000
feeling this warmth love. And as I was coming

00:57:33.000 --> 00:57:35.360
back from getting the groceries, I was just in

00:57:35.360 --> 00:57:39.500
a magnificent mood, just. So I came, there was

00:57:39.500 --> 00:57:41.880
a semi to my right, just a big long semi, and

00:57:41.880 --> 00:57:44.059
a car parked in front of me. This is how I know

00:57:44.059 --> 00:57:45.880
I. So I'm sitting there for a second, all of

00:57:45.880 --> 00:57:49.829
a sudden I felt myself speeding forward. So my

00:57:49.829 --> 00:57:51.510
foot is on the brake and I'm white -knuckling

00:57:51.510 --> 00:57:53.030
the steering wheel because there's a car in front

00:57:53.030 --> 00:57:54.869
of me and I'm traveling fast and I'm like, I

00:57:54.869 --> 00:57:55.989
thought I was gonna hit the car and I'm like,

00:57:56.090 --> 00:57:58.170
no, no, no, no, no. What is this? And I was like,

00:57:58.409 --> 00:58:00.369
that lasted for about five or six seconds. And

00:58:00.369 --> 00:58:03.730
I'm like, what was, what the hell was that? Right?

00:58:03.769 --> 00:58:05.889
And I'm feeling all of a sudden very lightheaded,

00:58:06.610 --> 00:58:09.630
like off in La La Land. And I feel like I got

00:58:09.630 --> 00:58:12.010
a vomit, like I'm gonna, I'm gonna throw up.

00:58:12.590 --> 00:58:14.730
And I'm like, what is this? And I'm driving like

00:58:14.730 --> 00:58:17.429
a grandpa, like. I don't want that to happen.

00:58:17.570 --> 00:58:20.510
You're like, it was so weird. I mean, I was moving

00:58:20.510 --> 00:58:23.349
rapidly, but I was standing right sitting in

00:58:23.349 --> 00:58:25.829
my Jeep. So I got back to the hotel, put the

00:58:25.829 --> 00:58:28.949
groceries away, lay down on the bed. That was

00:58:28.949 --> 00:58:32.789
a Monday. And I kept having those feelings for

00:58:32.789 --> 00:58:36.889
about an hour. And I had meditation music and

00:58:36.889 --> 00:58:39.710
what had happened as I quantum leap, I jumped

00:58:39.710 --> 00:58:42.610
into a different timeline. It's quantum physics.

00:58:42.829 --> 00:58:45.889
So I entered a higher reality, a higher version

00:58:45.889 --> 00:58:48.690
of myself. Now, Jason, you're still homeless.

00:58:49.710 --> 00:58:52.889
You have to remember that when these things happen,

00:58:54.130 --> 00:58:56.429
you kind of get put into the void. Your new life

00:58:56.429 --> 00:59:00.030
hasn't begun yet, and your old life is still

00:59:00.030 --> 00:59:02.150
ending. It's like an archer. When it draws back

00:59:02.150 --> 00:59:04.909
the bow, your elbow goes back into a part of

00:59:04.909 --> 00:59:08.110
your old life, right? So you're still living

00:59:08.110 --> 00:59:10.929
there. And then when the archer lets go of the

00:59:10.929 --> 00:59:13.050
arrow, the arrow goes forward and you move into

00:59:13.050 --> 00:59:15.630
your new timeline. So I'm kind of in the void.

00:59:16.750 --> 00:59:18.690
The new hasn't come yet and I'm experiencing

00:59:18.690 --> 00:59:22.889
the old. There are people of various religions

00:59:22.889 --> 00:59:26.429
that because of their background, because of

00:59:26.429 --> 00:59:29.570
the teachings that they grew up with, they're

00:59:29.570 --> 00:59:33.110
going to say, What in the world is this quantum

00:59:33.110 --> 00:59:37.610
leap stuff? What is this numerous lifetimes to

00:59:37.610 --> 00:59:41.250
fulfill this life contract? How are people supposed

00:59:41.250 --> 00:59:44.110
to reconcile that with what they have been taught?

00:59:44.889 --> 00:59:46.650
I'll simply say this, you've been taught horribly

00:59:46.650 --> 00:59:49.789
wrong. That's it. So now people are saying, are

00:59:49.789 --> 00:59:52.710
you saying my Bible is wrong? My scripture is

00:59:52.710 --> 00:59:56.650
wrong, Jason? Absolutely. God doesn't care about

00:59:56.650 --> 00:59:58.869
religion. God did not write the Bible. Man did.

00:59:59.130 --> 01:00:01.309
They wrote the Bible to keep you living in fear.

01:00:01.510 --> 01:00:05.190
It's a control weapon. And it's done its job

01:00:05.190 --> 01:00:08.230
for 2 ,000 years. So for those people that you

01:00:08.230 --> 01:00:11.510
just lost because of that, I know that they can

01:00:11.510 --> 01:00:14.809
learn something from you anyway. I would love

01:00:14.809 --> 01:00:16.969
for you to leave us with some kind of a message

01:00:16.969 --> 01:00:18.949
of hope. You've taught us some beautiful things,

01:00:19.090 --> 01:00:22.210
especially about God's love. Leave us with a

01:00:22.210 --> 01:00:25.010
message of hope today. Leave you with a message

01:00:25.010 --> 01:00:27.730
that you are never alone and that you are loved.

01:00:28.059 --> 01:00:32.340
That this is a non -reality. That what you're

01:00:32.340 --> 01:00:34.820
witnessing and feeling and sealing every day

01:00:34.820 --> 01:00:38.340
is simply a dream, a hallucination, a game. It's

01:00:38.340 --> 01:00:40.539
not real. And that you've never done anything

01:00:40.539 --> 01:00:43.179
wrong. And that you are, that you are loved.

01:00:43.260 --> 01:00:46.099
And you are never alone. Ever. At any point in

01:00:46.099 --> 01:00:49.679
your creation have you been left alone. And at

01:00:49.679 --> 01:00:51.900
some point in time I'm sure you have felt alone

01:00:51.900 --> 01:00:56.340
here. Lost, angry, scared. But I want you all

01:00:56.340 --> 01:00:58.980
to know that you are never alone and that you

01:00:58.980 --> 01:01:02.460
are loved unconditionally and that your Father

01:01:02.460 --> 01:01:05.719
is anxiously awaiting your arrival home. Jason

01:01:05.719 --> 01:01:09.059
Janis, I really appreciate it. All of your insights

01:01:09.059 --> 01:01:12.119
and for sharing and being so open with us. Thank

01:01:12.119 --> 01:01:14.760
you very much for your time today. Absolutely.

01:01:14.800 --> 01:01:18.409
It was a pleasure. Thank you for having me. Thanks

01:01:18.409 --> 01:01:20.829
again for listening and sharing this podcast.

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