From the time that they pronounced me that was
a good 45 minutes They cut my clothes and then
they paddled my heart my heart stopped and I
could see people screaming and crying But I didn't
realize that was actually my physical body because
I was somewhere else The only thing that I could
feel if you can imagine Absolute love and peace
there wasn't anything else to be felt. I was
greeted by people I'd known in the past I'm back
home again. Incredibly safe and felt at home.
Welcome, welcome to Round Trip Death everybody
and our very special guest today, Jason Janis.
Hey, I'm so grateful you're with me this morning.
How are you? I'm doing fantastic. Thank you for
having me. I'm honored. Thank you. I'm going
to give sort of a brief outline for everybody.
We're going to hear Jason's beautiful NDE. And
then we're going to talk about a whole bunch
of things he's learned since then. And then I'm
going to put on kind of my devil's advocate hat
and ask some hard questions. Jason has agreed
to that already upfront, and he's in fact happy
about it. So we're going to get into some of
the things that maybe you are wondering about
when we get to that point. But first, hey, Jason,
tell us a little bit about you. Yeah, my name
is Jason Janis. I was born April 28, 1970 in
a Midwestern town in Illinois. You know, a Gen
-Xer, but it was the 70s. Again, I'm just a Midwestern
town. But from an early age, I just never fit
in. I was very, very deeply loving little boy.
Didn't understand it. I always got my feelings
hurt. Didn't really fit in with a lot of the
kids, even though I did have some friends. But
I always felt left out, right? Nobody wanted
to be a really close friend or school was tough.
Finding schoolmates was tough growing up. When
I went into fifth and sixth grade, I got pulled
out of public school and shoved into a Christian
school for two years. So I had that atmosphere
shoved down my throat. I grew up Catholic and
Christian. So that was the only language that
I knew getting thrown into that school. really
ram rotted that bad information down. Again,
and I moved to Wisconsin in 1980. I got more
friends and stuff, but it was always, I always
felt left out. I've always felt like I didn't
belong here. And I still feel that way to this
day, very strongly, even more so now. But it
was a very difficult childhood, right? I grew
up with a very abusive parents, mostly my mother.
My parents got divorced very early on seven years
seven years old I think it was my mother was
not a fun alcoholic very abusive I mean mentally
abusive. I was physically beaten very beaten
I tried to save my sister from the beating so
I learned very early on to get her up get her
dressed when she was three years old and You
didn't make a sound if you made a sound. I don't
care if you pooped the bed wet the bed She walked
down you got beat beat so we'd sit inches from
the TV with that volume down and I would make
her her breakfast and cereal get her dressed
and we'd go outside and play that was the kind
of Early childhood that I grew up in then as
a teenager I went to live with my father that
really stopped but it was you know in the formative
years So it was a very abusive household I learned
how to take care of myself, basically, in other
words, right? Get up, get dressed, cook. When
I'd go visit my grandparents, my grandmother
especially adored me. She, from an early age,
five years old, I remember learning how to cook.
Cook, clean, vacuum, do all of these things,
right? So I was very independent. Then I had
my first marriage, my first child. I thought
I was doing what I should have done, right? But
nothing made sense in my life and nothing just
felt right. I got divorced, my first wife died,
got married again, had another child, got divorced
again. Just love never seemed to find me. It
was always just a hard, brutal life. Jason, do
you think some of those scars from childhood
had something to do with that? I always felt
unworthy from, you know, when you're being beaten,
and I'm talking, it didn't mean with a hand fist,
belt buckles, belts. It didn't matter. And this
is where I began to hate God. I was such a loving
little boy. And that was because I was an empath
and I didn't know it at the time, a deep empath.
And I'm still that way to this day. So those
beatings really took a toll on me. I thought
God didn't love me. And so I began to resent
him. So when I went to Catholic Church, I had
some bisexual experiences when I was younger.
in those formative years. So when I got went
to Catholic Church and had all of this shoved
down my throat, I knew I was doomed. I knew there
was no saving me. There was no chance. God, and
it was shown. That's why I was being beaten.
That's why I was hated by him. And that's when
I quit having a relationship. I was about nine
or 10 years old when my grandmother went to wake
me up to go to church. Come on, Jace, let's go
to church. And I remember kicking her. Hard and
I sat up and I said, don't you ever wake me up
to go to church? Don't you ever? Wake me up.
God hates me. He hates me. I said, so I'll take
care of myself. Don't you ever wake me up and
She was just stunned Like Jase and I said I'll
take care of myself That was the last time I
ever spoke to God until my death when I was dying.
And that was over 40 years later. Now, did I
ever stop believing in Him? No, but I stopped
having a relationship with Him and with Jesus.
Should we fast forward to that point? Let's go
to 2020, early in the days of COVID. Wow, what
happened to you? How'd you get sick? Well, I
was waking up, so this is like end of March,
2020, and I started being very, very tired, waking
up with blood in my mouth, like, You know, when
you taste blood, it's got that coppery taste,
right? I'm like, did I bite my tongue or lip
or something? You know, and I'm like, nothing.
But as the days wore on, you know, we, I was
just tired, like physically tired. One day I
came home from work, April 2nd. Wasn't happy
with my life, didn't like my job, didn't like
the situation I was in. But I came home, sat
down. I had my dinner. I made a bagel sandwich.
Just really wasn't in the mood to eat. And I
began, I took a bite. Took a second bite and
I'm just watching TV and then went to take another
bite night. I cough or I've worked and I'm like,
and I swallowed him like, Oh God, that was horrible.
It's just a wretched taste. Then I went to take
another bite. Now up. I coughed bright red blood.
I mean, it was pink. I mean, it was a handful.
Okay. It wasn't like a dime or a spot. It was
a couple of silver dollars. And I freaked. I
was like, what was, you know, and then I coughed
again. bright red blood. I mean, not dark red
when you cut your finger. This is bright pink.
Now I'm starting to wheeze and I'm trying to
breathe and I just keep coughing up this blood.
Now my whole plate is full of blood. So I get
up and I just remember looking out the patio
door in my apartment in Wisconsin and I'm watching
life just take place and I know that I'm dying.
I can't breathe. Something is massively wrong
with me and I'm dying. I knew it and I'm watching
people walk down the sidewalk and cars go by
like nothing's going on in here in this apartment
I'm dying I grab my phone I get to the the sink
and throw my stuff out and I I'm coughing constant
I can't breathe and I'm frantically trying to
call my ex -wife because I'm divorced and She
was an RN and that's the only thing I could think
of at that time Panicking, you know I'm starting
to panic a little bit as I truly am really struggling
to breathe and the blood is just I'm coughing
it up. And I'm frantically trying over and over,
started FaceTime her over and over. And then
finally she answered the, you know, she answered
the FaceTime and she's like, what do you want?
Right. And I tried to speak to her and I coughed
and blood just went all over the phone and she
saw it. She goes, and she's ran to, she goes,
Jason. And I said, I don't feel good. I'm trying
to breathe and I'm wheezing, you know? And I
said, coughing. And I said, I'm sorry, I'm going
to go lay down. I'm tired. I don't feel good.
and I'm coughing she goes Jason Jason listen
to me Jason Jason and I'm coughing I said I'm
tired I'm gonna go lay down she goes Jason if
you lay down you're going to die please don't
lay down Jason listen to me I said I'm coughing
up more and more blood she goes Jason honey Jason
and I said I'm sorry and the phone went dead
and I was like wow why couldn't our marriage
be like that Simple and I and that's all I remember
next thing. I know I wake up in What I assumed
was the ICU My hands and feet were strapped to
the bed when I mean strapped I couldn't move
them more than a sixteenth of an inch up or down
Okay, I had a two down my throat stuff in my
nose and an IV in my carotid artery here And
I was in incredible pain. I mean it was mind
-altering pain Mean I had a myriad of machines
keeping me alive. I can feel the ventilator going
Doctors all over the place and now it's dark
and they like Jason, you know, do you know your
name? You know who you are and I can't speak
so I'm saying yes Do you know where you are?
You know, I'm looking around and I'm like, you
know, who's the president? Who cares? You know,
how do you want me to answer that? I You know,
I have a two inch tube down my throat, right?
But from the moment I awoke through the myriad
of doctors, now this room was big, okay? And
I found out later why I was in the infectious
disease ward because the actual ICU and where
I was were dying people, right? So this room
was big, but up in the left -hand corner, there
was a TV. Somebody was standing there. I mean,
I couldn't see it, but I could feel it. There
was somebody there. I was being drawn towards
that area. It was a very comforting feeling,
a very knowing feeling, right? I've sensed this
feeling before. And I just trying to see through
the doctors and I couldn't. So they gave me more
pain and I fell back, I mean meds. So I fell
back to sleep and they're waking me up like every
10 minutes and making me cough up this blood.
they're getting all of this blood out and come
to find out later afterwards that they pumped
out 2 .8 liters of blood, equivalent to 12 cups
of blood from my lungs. So my cause of death
was acute respiratory failure hypoxia. I basically
drowned in my own blood. And why they ventilated
me, because later I found out why the IV was
there, was they flushed the medicines directly
into my heart to restart the heart. I wake up,
And I'm, if you imagine when you get an itch,
you've got to scratch it. Right. My whole body
itched uncontrollably from the meds. Uh, I was
on a fentanyl and my body was itching and I tried
to eat my hands from street. I couldn't move.
Right. And I'm like, I get my hand out of it.
You want to write. And they finally said, you're
not going to take, you're not right. And I said,
I'm not sure. So they let go of the straps and
they're all there. and they got me a piece of
paper. They said, you itch? And so they let me
so I could scratch, you know, and itch. But in
the meantime, I'm still looking towards the left
because somebody's standing there. Now, mind
you, I was in the ICU for a month. I lost 75
pounds, right? I was extremely lethargic. And
at the very end, within the last day or two,
they took the tube out. They took the, you know,
all the stuff out. They found out what it was.
They said, Jason, we have no cause or reason
for this. You don't drink, you don't smoke, you
don't do drugs, you exercise. All they could
do was blame it on COVID. They said, what we
found in your lungs were rapidly growing tumors
and they burst and they filled your lungs with
blood. And if we don't get these removed quickly,
you're going to die. Okay. And I'm like, okay.
As time goes by, you know, I'm staring at that
and the nurse walks in one day and is like Jason
Do you want to turn on the TV? And this is someone
still when I had the tube in my mouth, but I
could move my hands How do you tell somebody
somebody standing there's somebody right there?
They're gonna think I'm nuts, right? Cuz all
you see is a TV, but there was somebody there
and I'm like, you know, I just just So as time
goes on I'm just staring and staring and it's
getting time for me to go and again, they had
pulled out the tube and all that and You know
when you know, you're dying and you're on the
verge of death This was the first time that I
called out to God in over 40 years and I had
no business calling out to him none. I abandoned
him I told him to F off. I told him he could
go to hell. He hated me clearly, but I got up
on my elbows and I was shaking uncontrollably
because I had no strength, none. I couldn't talk.
So when I was crying out to God, it was hoarse
like, right? And I called out to God. I said,
please, please don't let me die. Please. And
now I'm sobbing uncontrollably. I feel a love.
Within me that I had not felt since I was a little
boy It had just overcome me and I was like, please
please don't let me die I'm sorry. I abandoned
you and I'm sorry. I abandoned Jesus. I said
I quit having a relationship with you and I said,
I'm sorry I Said I never stopped believing in
you, but I I did quit having a relationship with
you I said, I'm sorry. I said, please don't take
my children away from me. Please. Please don't
take my children from me. And there was somebody
that I loved very much. I won't mention her name,
but I said, please don't take her from me. Please.
I love her. Please. I want to hold her hand.
I want to kiss her. I want to smell her breath.
I want to make love to her. The moment I said
that, I was looking at my body laying on a bed.
I saw everything around me. I was at the top
of the ceiling. All pain was gone. I felt energized.
I mean, I was juiced. I mean, I was like, and
I was in constant in this unimaginable most beautiful
love and light. This love flowed through me.
It was as warm as the sun. It encapsulated me
in it. And I became it. I became the light. I
saw everything. I could see through the wall.
I could see all the patients dying. I could see
the nurses' stations, the uniforms they were
wearing, the colors. And I can see outside the
window what, and for the first time, because
when I was looking out my window, all I could
see was the sky and the top of a tree. Now I'm
looking out through, I'm seeing through the wall,
right? Well, I have 360 degrees. I'm seeing everything
behind me, everything. But now I'm looking out
into this field. I could see every blade of grass.
Every blade of grass. I could see the serrations
in the grass. I could see the veins in the grass.
I could see the colors moving in the grass. It
was the most magnificent green I had ever seen.
The tree was the same way. I could see the souls.
The tree looked like Obi -Wan Kenobi in Star
Wars, right? When you see him at the end, right?
And he had the halo around him. That's exactly
what the souls I saw of the trees, the grass,
the clouds, everything. I could see every soul.
And it was just the most beautiful thing. And
I knew where I was. I said it. I was like, I'm
home. I'm home. And it was a thought. I mean,
I'm looking at a body. So this is all telepathically
I'm speaking. Right? Because I'm looking at this
thing laying on the bed and I had no love of
it. None. none at all. The next thought that
crept into my mind was, what a beautiful day
to die. Not only did I know where I was, I realized
that I had died numerous times. This was nothing
new, right? It was just normal would be the thing.
It was comforting. I was home. But in the same
aspect, I said it with a little bit of trepidation
was like, I'm not supposed to be here yet. Now,
how long all of this took? I have no idea. Now,
like I said, I'm seeing everything through the
walls. I'm at the top of the ceiling now, so
I'm even with the TV. What time? I don't know.
This could have been five seconds, five hours,
50 years. Who knows? There is no such thing as
time. It ceased to exist, right? I was just simply
home. Now, this other presence showed up, and
this would be more like 12 o 'clock. It's hard
to describe when you have 360 -degree vision.
I just began to focus more at 12, but I'm still
paying attention to the 10 o 'clock, 11 o 'clock
situation. That presence, I knew instantly, too,
that was Yeshua, without question, or to those
that don't know Jesus Christ. And more love was
bestowed upon me. This love that was bestowed
upon me is inconceivable to any of you. It was
almost stifling, like somebody, you know, covering
your mouth and nose and barely letting enough
air to come in to breathe. It was just the most
magnificent and beautiful love. And it was as
warm as the sun. And it just never stopped. It
never altered. It never wavered. It was just
the most unconditional love. I was at peace.
I was home. And I had no desire to ever come
back. I know I was begging not to die, but that
was immaterial. Can I just ask you a couple of
questions? I hate to interrupt and I can't wait
to hear the rest of the story, but I don't want
to get too far down the road before I ask a few
questions about this. One is, how did you know
that it was Jesus? I recognized His energy instantaneously.
Just like I knew who was, once I left my body,
who was standing in the corner was God. So when
I merged with the light and that love, I became
the light and the love. I became one with the
Father. And when that other energy showed, that
vibrational frequency was instantly known. It
was Yeshua. I didn't need to see a body or a
face. I just instantly recognized it without
question. And that brings up the other question,
which is, you saw this being in your room, this
is before you left your body, you saw this being
up by the TV. And did you feel like that was
God the whole time? I didn't know it at the time,
but there was nobody there. I felt this energy.
I felt this love connection is what I'm trying
to say, right? I never did I see anybody except
when I left my body. Then I saw the love. I felt
the love and the light and that I knew was Father
or God. But prior to that, I had no idea. It
was just this recognizable feeling, right? Just
this absolute knowing that I recognized it, just
like I knew somebody was there. So it's just,
it was there. It's very hard to describe. So
when I was out of my body and I was in constant
the light and the love, then I knew without question,
it was my father, it was God, it was father.
And I call God father because in that moment
of my transition out of my body into being home
and feeling this love, The love that was bestowed
upon me, mind you, the things that I have done
in my life were subject from what I was taught
was hell, where I was going to go. There was
no question about it through the violence that
I inflicted on other people and it was inflicted
on me, the abuse that I went through, the drug
abuse, the bisexuality that I had early on, the
alcohol, the drugs, the unforgivable sin as a
Christian, it was the outright rejection of the
Holy Spirit. Needless to say, I was, when I came
back, I was shocked. But that energy that I realized
was Jesus. We don't exist as a body, and we can
get into this later. The body's meaningless.
It's of such littleness, we'll just leave it
there. Yeah, we'll get to that in a few minutes.
Go ahead and finish with the experience itself.
So this is the end of it. I was just engulfed
in the love of Yeshua and Father. And then I
felt two hands on my soul, right? And it gently
glided me back to my body and our souls aren't
in our body, but I felt his two hands on my chest
and they were huge and they were warm. They were
so warm, gently laid me my soul back around my
body and then laid me back down on the bed and
I was out. How long? I don't know, but I woke
up again to doctors frantically shaking me, trying
to get me up. And I look around and I'm like,
What was that? And I looked to the left and it
was gone. That presence was gone. And I was like,
what just happened? Jay, are you okay? And I'm
like, everybody out of the room. Oh, you need
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all left. And I'm like, what was that? trying
to make sense of what happened. I knew what happened.
But I was like, what was that? Nobody's going
to believe me. Nobody's going to believe me.
They're going to think I'm nuts if I try to describe
that I was just with God and Jesus, right? They're
going to think I'm nuts. So that was basically
my near -death experience in the ICU. And since
then, I've had profound spiritual experiences
over these. It's going to be, wow, coming up.
six years in a few days, a couple days. A couple
other questions about when you were out of body.
I assume that all the pain that you had been
feeling and all the itching, I assume all that
was gone? Instantaneously, gone. It's interesting
to hear that you went from begging to not die
to being home. Did you feel like you, how do
I put this? Did you feel like you still wanted
to come back or maybe didn't so much? No, I had
no desire to come back because in that moment
of my transition I knew everything there was
to ever know in a trillionth of a second. Everything.
From whatever you want to know, I knew. I knew
that everybody and everything in the world that
was taking place was right where it was needed
to be. Everything and every person was right
where they needed to be. Perfect. Even those
people dying. They were dying on cue. That's
how they chose to die. So No, I did not want
to come back at all. I was home. I wanted to
stay there It was the most profound experience
of my life I have never even with my own children
watching them come into the earth coming into
this world I have never felt a love like that.
I was for the first time at my life. I was at
peace There was no internal war. There was no
struggle. There was no pain It was just love
and peace For those that maybe haven't felt that
love, how could you describe it? How could you
relate it to something here on earth that maybe
we have felt? Wow, maybe, maybe in the slightest
way. You've seen parents, I don't want to use
that analogy because that's horrific. Just take
every parent, like every mother, right? When
that child is born and that bond is there, you
take every mother or every parent. mother and
father, right? And you take that love of that
child and then you multiply it by a billion.
That's what it would feel like. But our language,
which is archaic and barbaric to say the least,
is there's just no words to describe or put that
love into existence. But what I was going to
say is you've seen parents when you've seen school
shootings take place and you see them frantically
running down the road. tears streaming down their
eyes. Now take that feeling of absolute love
and multiply it by a billion. And that would
still equal an F to the love that Father has
of you. It is profound. It is profound. And it,
again, it has changed my life. That's the kind
of love we're talking about here. And that's
why I call God Father. because in that moment
of my transition, I felt like I was his one and
only son. The love bestowed upon me was, again,
nothing that I can ever put into words. And no
near -death experiencer is, and I've watched
thousands of NDEs. They all describe the same
thing. I know what they're talking about, right?
When they say that the love, you guys have no
idea what that love is. If you could even experience
it for a tenth of a second, there would be no
wars, there would be no famine, there would be
no homelessness, there would be no drug or alcohol
abuse, or you know, children dying of starvation.
That's the kind of love that I'm talking about.
Thank you for trying to explain all that. You
did a good job. I know it's not perfect, but
I guess we just don't have the words for it.
I'm wondering another thing, that is, it seems
like Prior to this happening, you were very aware
of your own weaknesses. You mentioned some of
the things that you had done that you didn't
feel good about in your life. When you went to
the other side, was there any time that you felt
guilt, that you felt pain, that you felt like,
man, did I ever screw up? There is absolutely
no judgment. None. None. There is no judgment.
coming from Christianity, I would, I, you know,
that's not what I expected. You know of a vindictive
God, a hateful God, a vengeful God, an angry
God. You've all been taught wrong. Your father
loves you. There is no judgment upon you with
anything that you have done. Your father is love.
A love that can never be put into words. It's
what we're made out of. It's where we come from.
And it's who we are. We are all unconditional
love. We are all that of Father. And on the other
side, there was no judgment. In the moment, I
began to feel guilty for the things that I've
done. More love was bestowed upon me. And I knew
at that moment in time that I had done absolutely
nothing wrong. Nothing wrong. And I was to not
feel guilty. There was no judgment upon me. Ever.
Ever. It took me a while when I came back to
to let go of that guilt. And to forgive myself
for the things that I have done in my life. But
there is no judgment and anybody that's going
to see this understand this now that your father
loves you unconditionally without question or
art fault. Just know that. Just know that you
are loved and that there will be and there never
has been any judgment held upon you. Sorry about
that, I got emotional. Thank you very much for
sharing that. I appreciate it. Before we move
on and talk more about the spiritual things that
you've learned during the experience and since
then, Can you just give us a very brief wrap
-up of physically what happened to you? How did
you recover? Did it take very long? It was a
long road to recovery. I had to learn how to
walk. I had to learn how to talk. I had to learn
how to feed myself. I checked myself out of the
hospital. I had no business doing that because
of those said effects. It took me a long time
to get back on my feet. Then my company fired
me. So I lost my job. I got my vehicle repossessed.
Nobody would hire me because, again, it was in
the midst of COVID pandemic. Unemployment wouldn't
pay me. So I had eviction notices. I had no money
coming in. So it was a very long road to recovery.
But thank goodness I still had that feeling of
being in there. I still had that unconditional
love feeling. And I knew I was being taken care
of, watched over. because you're never alone.
That's something I wanted to say too. I haven't
said this in a while. You are never alone. You
have your guides with you. You have your archangel
with you. Your father not only hears you, sees
you, but he also feels you. Everything you're
going through, he is going through. It may seem
like you're alone. It may like seem you're abandoned,
but you are not. You are alone. I felt my guides
with me. I remember one morning I woke up and
I moved and I felt somebody get off the side
of my bed and I learned looked over there was
nobody there but I felt somebody get off my bed
and I was being taken care of and I was you know
I was just never alone throughout that whole
period and it was such a comforting feeling even
though I was struggling physically in the body
again to get up and get things going but eventually
I did but it was very hard and I fell into depression
because you began once again to feel the hate,
the anger, the rage of the earth, of society.
I was picking up on that and that was very difficult
to have to deal with when I was still feeling
that unconditional love of home. So it was a
very, very difficult transition for me. I fell
for probably two years into a depression. And
now in those two years, I've had some profound
spiritual experiences after that. But it was
very difficult. People always say, I want a near
-death experience. No, you don't. No, no, you
don't. No. No, be careful what you wish for.
Can you tell me any more about these angels and
guides that we all have? Yes, I met my guide,
not physically didn't see him, but recognized
his presence. And I think I saw another one of
my relatives or guides. I had an out -of -body
experience in, was it 2020? I don't know if you're
a football fan or not. Oh, it was the night Devar
Hamelin died on the football field. It was the
last time I watched TV. I had an out of body
experience. Our guides are with us in the same
room with you. They're watching you. They watch
you take a shower, take a poop, make dinner,
eat, go out with friends. They are around you.
Your archangel or your protector. That is your
intuition that tells you when something, hey,
don't go there. Don't do this. Or you get that
sixth sense, that gut feeling. that's your archangel,
that's your guide, talking to you. They're always
with you. They never leave. From the time you
were created, they've been with you and they
will never leave you for eternity. Did you learn
anything about who they are? For example, is
there some kind of relationship? Were they ancestors
or were they just some sort of other angels that
God created or who are they? They are generally
Past relatives or relations most of them that
you've never met like a great great great great
great grandfather or uncle or cousin Who has
just a fond affection for you and decided that
they would take on that role as your guardians
So whatever lifetime you've gone into they're
always there with you They take part in you creating
your life and so on so forth. But yeah, they're
generally family members as you said ancestors
So now your archangel that's with you, your protector,
whatever, we all have them. Now they were created
when Father created the angels. So each of us
have an archangel attached to us. And again,
they will never leave you. Ever. Never. In all
of eternity. They are with you for eternity.
Do you feel like these angels, these who are
probably ancestors, as you put it, and that makes
sense to me? Do you feel like we knew them before
we came here to this earth? Oh, yeah Without
question without question See the thing is is
we put ourselves into a deep sleep or what we
call amnesia We've when we come here and we incarnate
when when you Start to create life or what we
call the physical body. We vibrate at such a
high frequency I mean, it's it's unbelievable
how we vibrate when I told you I was juiced right
house I was vibrating at my natural frequency,
which was because I was out of the body. I was
at the home. But when we choose to incarnate,
when we get mom and dad to mate and create a
baby, right? Well, we create the baby or the
ego does. We begin to lower our vibration to
come into this three dimensional world. Therefore,
what happens is we begin to condense matter.
And when that happens. you know it as a baby
is formed. So we lower our vibration and therefore
we create the body. We look exactly the way we
want to look because that's the way our ego wants
us to look. You look the way you look, I look
the way I look. That is how the baby is formed,
is we begin to lower that vibration when we go
into mom and so we take over the creation of
our body. How we want it to look, so on so forth,
eyes, whatever. And then while that baby is being
formed, or what we call the fetus in this world,
is that soul will come in and out of that body
many, many, many times, right? Because once again,
it's leaving everything that's ever known. That's
fearful. The soul comes in and out of the fetus
many, many times, and then finally father says,
okay, this is the last time. So each time the
baby would go home, it gets knowledge, it gets
the wisdom, hey, you're talking with our overlord.
and he's strictly in charge of our growth, spiritual
growth in these incarnations, like a supervisor
at work, basically, and a great deal goes into
creating a life. There isn't just a, you know,
wham -bam, thank you ma 'am, right? It's with
your overlord, you're with your archangel, you're
with your guides, and you create this experience
that you want to experience. Then you bring it
before Father, like a piece of paper, a contract,
say, This is what I want to father agrees to
it. Or you may say you need to change some things,
right? Because I think you're taking on too much
and go back and redo it. And it's like walking
into a buffet, a restaurant that you've never
walked into, but this huge buffet. So you're
going down this buffet line and you're picking
out. So, oh, I want to try cancer. Oh, what does
it look like with my arm lopped off? What about
a leg? Oh, how about blind? How about being raped?
How about right? So you're picking what you want
to experience. Just like that. It's exactly what
it is. Oh, I want to be raped. Oh, I want my
child to die at this age. Oh, I want, you know,
I want cancer, you know, so you pick out what
you want. And then again, you bring before father
and father will agree to it. There's no way you
can come here without his saying so. End of subject.
Then you get your contract or what you it's a
life contract. Right. So you're just not going
to complete it in one lifetime. It's going to
take hundreds and hundreds, if not, you know,
maybe twelve hundred. lifetimes for you to finish
what you wanted to start, and Father would say,
okay, and then the journey begins. Okay, a couple
of questions here. Yeah. It's easy for us, while
we're here in this life, to realize how hard
those things are if we chose some of those really
tough things. Why did we choose them? Did we
just not understand previously before we came
how hard it would be to get you used examples
of losing a limb or being raped or some other
horrible thing? Did we just not get it? Why would
we choose stuff like that? See, when you're on
the other side or when you're home, when you
are in oneness with the father, when you're in
all this, when you're in this unconditional love,
you don't grow through love and Easy. Where do
you gain your most knowledge from the most difficult
parts of your life, don't you? Whether you've
gone through a divorce, the death of a child,
death of a parent, whatever it may be, almost
drowning in a lake, you grow through pain. You
grow through suffering. It's not meant to destroy
you, it's meant for you to grow from. But what
does this human species do? We get caught up
in the pain. Well, you cheated on me. God doesn't
care about your marriage. Marriage means nothing
to God. But you get caught up in, I hate you
now, right? You get caught up in that moment.
But it's a spiritual growth moment. It's not
meant to cripple you. But we have a tendency,
this species does, to hold onto that pain, hold
onto that grief, hold onto that sorrow and not
let it go. Then we carry that darkness and that
fear within us. We're not to fear anything. Fear
is an illusion. So we grow through these things.
Absolutely. Those are growth opportunities. They
are not fun, but that's what they're here for.
But a lot of people are going to argue with you.
This is where I'm going to get into some of the
hard questions, Jason. A lot of people are going
to argue with you and say, I would have never
chosen that. And right. Well, unfortunately you
did. Why? Because you want to grow from it. And
the reason you can't remember what you chose.
The reason you can't remember that you put yourself
into a sleep or an amnesia is because if you
knew what you were about to go through, would
you go through it? Now if I told you tomorrow
you're going to your son is going to die and
then two years after that your wife is going
to die and then your company is going to fold
and now you've just lost your entire 401k. You're
going to go through with it? You're going to
go, hell no, no, no. Nope, I choose something
different. Unfortunately, I would choose the
easy path, which I'm not going to learn anything
from, right? Then we might as well just stay
at home because that's what home is like. Home,
the best way to describe home is like the best
orgasm you have ever had when you are at the
pinnacle of it, right? Of this feeling, right?
Of this orgasm and now multiply it by a billion.
That is what it's like to be at home. That feeling
of pure ecstasy of pure love of pure everything
in that moment before it all Just that trillions
of a second before the climax explodes that right
there is what home is like You're not gonna grow
at home. You're not gonna grow in all this So
you come down here to experience getting hit
by a car experience getting stabbed Experience
what I'm going through right now, right? Let's
talk about that for a second. Do you mind Jason?
No, go ahead. Are you okay with Being vulnerable
enough to tell everybody what you're going through
right now because it's a good example of this
whole principle Yeah, I mean I've been if people
go to my channel and we can talk about that later
I've never held anything back from anybody. So
my near -death happened in 2020 I'll just go
through some brief moments. If you want to cover
them later, that's fine 2022, I had a profound
out -of -body experience, which was phenomenal.
Then a year later, I had two visitations with
angels. Then I had another out -of -body experience.
And in 2024, I had, was it Easter of 2024? Yep.
I had another meeting with an angel in the physical.
Then I came home mid -summer. 2024 or 25 and
my whole apartment was ransacked. But yet my
doors were locked and I can get into this later.
Then I had another profound experience in 2025.
But what had happened is my life came to a crashing
halt in Wisconsin. Meaning they raised my rent.
I was not happy at the job. That ended up collapsing.
I ended up quitting there. And the reason I'm
in the predicament is now because in April of
2023, or no, March of 2023, one of the meetings
I had with an angel led me to this part of what
I'm going through now. And I came out of sushi
with a woman I was trying to date, which was
a bad idea. That was not meant to happen. It
was clear. But I had this profound meeting, this
person. who I thought was a person at the time,
was sitting at the very back of my Jeep, dressed
like a bum, bag, cane, ratty clothes, but his
face looked very familiar. And it was the second
time I saw this angel. This time his clothing
and his physical appearance was changed, meaning
his hair color was changed, same haircut style,
and beard color was changed from a brunette to
a red, not light red, but a darker red. He goes,
hi, how are you? and I'm smiling and I'm feeling
this energy draw and I want to explain to you
why I'm here going through this and I have to
explain this so he's like you like video games
and I'm like I'm trying to put two and two together
I just can't the woman that I was with she's
getting freaked out he goes oh I'm here in Wisconsin
because I'm helping helping somebody here get
a divorce I'm gonna be going up to a Conama walk
long story short She was going through a divorce
and he was like she looked at me freaked out
because Basically, he was telling us our entire
story without even she freaked out ran into the
van and he goes, you know It's really about love
And he tried to give me a fist bump. I'm feeling
this energy and he goes, you know It's really
about the love and he tried to give me a fist
bump And third time he goes, you know, love is
really everything. It's all there is. And I gave
him a fist bump and I go, yes, you're right.
It is. Love is the only thing that matters. I
said, I had a near death experience three years
ago. And he sat up and he looked at me and he
turned his head sideways. I know you did. And
I'm like, whoa, whoa. So I turned around to make
sure she's okay over my shoulder. And I turned
around, because he was sitting over this way.
So I turned around, and now he's standing in
front of me. And I'm like, whoa, no sound, nothing.
And he goes, your name is Jason, right? I was
like, I never told you my name, man. And he goes,
I didn't mean to scare her. And he said, would
you walk with me? He said, I'm grabbing my bag.
So I grabbed his bag. And he says, you know,
I'm an alcoholic. And he says, you know, he said,
you know, last month I drank 110. He said, you
drank $110 ,000 worth of alcohol. I said, wow,
you don't stink. And on top of that, you have
no, your hand is cold. There was no blood in
it. Like when you touch a dead body, that coldness.
So when I gave him a fist bump, there was that,
with that kind of feeling, right? And I'm like,
and he says, you know, you're kind of scraping
the bottom of the barrel. Oh, I said, oh. Thanks.
Thanks for rubbing some salt into an old wound."
I said, yeah, I spent my whole life. Money has
never been my... Now he's walking in front of
me. Wasn't walking beside me anymore. He's walking
in front of me. He really wasn't walking very
much with a limp anymore. That kind of went away.
So he said, would you be okay with that? And
I'm like, okay with what? Making $110 ,000? I'm
barely making $30 ,000 a year. Yeah. Yeah, I'd
be okay with that. He goes, great. And he's walking
a little bit. He goes, would you be willing to
relocate? I said, relocate? Yeah, where? And
he goes, hmm. How about Sacramento? California?
I said, for that kind of money, sure. Great,
he could walk with me. So I walk him into the
bar, which was a steakhouse. He goes, Jason?
And again, I didn't tell him my name. He goes,
it was a pleasure and honor speaking with you.
And he said, you'll hear from me again. And I
said, OK. Said, you know, it's nice meeting you.
And I said, you know, good luck. And I start
leaving the restaurant. And I said, no, I got
to turn around. And I turn around. The restaurant's
full. He's nowhere to be seen. Ran back to the
Jeep. Long story short, that is why when my life
collapsed in 2025 in July, I knew I had to go
to Sacramento. So I took my whole life. I saved
my couch, my bed, and a few other things in a
U -Haul crate, packed it to the brim and everything
else. I was trying to get everything. What can
I do? I heard purge. So I took my whole life
and I threw it all in the dumpster, locked it
up, got in my car. and I started driving to California.
Not only did I not have a job, I was out of money
and I have no family out in California. I slept
in my car at rest stops the entire way there.
I had saved a bunch of canned food, two boxes,
so I would eat a can of green beans or a can
of corn or a can of mixed fruit. That's what
I would eat all day. I would have a can of that.
Got to California. I got to Sacramento. I was
kicked out of there. I tried to sleep, but a
truck stop was kicked out, ran down, slept in
my car for two months. Then I had another profound
angel experience. And these events just keep
coming. So when I was sitting there, a person
saw me in the rest area, followed me back to
my car, and he says, you don't mind if I... I
parked over there. It says no parking. So I said,
pal, I've been here for two months. No, nobody
cares. And he's looking around and he goes...
He was reading my mind, he says, you know, you're
looking for a girlfriend and I have one and do
you want her? And I'm like, no, I said, I love
someone very much. I said, she's back in Wisconsin,
but she'll be out here by with me. He leaned
in, he goes, you're Jason, right? And I'm like,
now this guy's talking with a thick European
accent, older than me. I said, who are you? He
goes, you put me here. How? Who are you? I said,
are you a guide? I said, either that or you're
ascended master. He leans in. He goes, Jason,
you put me here. Jason, you're in alignment and
you're powerful. You need to move now. Where?
Who are you? I'm feeling this right now. I'm
beginning to cry. I'm starting to talk to him.
He goes, Jason, you're telling me nothing I don't
already know. You're in alignment and you're
powerful you need to move now And I said look
out there and he's looking around I said, that's
all me Everybody hears me. He goes you put me
here and he goes for the interview. I Said what
interview? He says you need some he's looking
and he says You need some new clothes go buy
a pair of pants and a nice shirt and he says
don't talk about your spirituality And I knew
what he meant by, you need to move. You need
to go back up to Sacramento. And he said, somebody
needs you. He turned around and left and disappeared.
I woke up that morning. My phone wouldn't work.
I couldn't text. I couldn't call. So my phone
got shut down. So I packed everything up and
got dressed and went to Sacramento, got a hotel.
A day later, I got a call from a company. They
hired me. I started it a week later. Got the
job. Then I flew out to Next Level Seoul with
Alex Ferrari, this house that I'm living at for
now. They bought me the plane ticket and got
me a hotel out in Texas, where I'm at now. Not
in Sacramento anymore. I left. Didn't go to Next
Level Seoul. And then on the way back, I contacted
this guy at Uber. Didn't think anything about
it. Do you think of your Uber ride or no? So
I get in this car, and a young black lady is
picking on me because of my name. She goes, what
you here in Texas for? I said, oh, I just did
an interview, beautiful studio about my death.
And she goes, you died? So we started talking,
and she just busted out bawling. And I was talking
about love and how I love all of you and this
experience that I had. And she goes, Jason, you
don't know how much I needed this. I said, what
did you say? I sat up. She goes, you don't know
how much I needed this. exactly what the angel
said in October. Somebody needs you. Jason, you
don't understand how much I needed this. And
she says, over and over, we're talking for 20
minutes, 20 minute ride back to my hotel. And
she said, I need to hug you. Can I please give
you a hug? So I got out and I gave, I mean, she
bare hugged me, this beautiful young black woman.
probably in her early 20s as an Uber rider trying
to make right. She just gave me this hug and
I wiped the tears from her eyes and I said, I
love you very much. And I said, you're going
to be okay. Right. And then I walked away and
I was like that. I just met the person. That
angel told me that needed me. How was I supposed
to know it was in Texas? Right. Get back to this
job. Ended up losing the job a few months later.
Now. Back to being homeless, right? I spent all
my money I had saved in a hotel trying to thinking
I needed to stay in California which Wasn't then
I went to back to living in my car at a different
truck stop and then lo and behold I got kicked
out of there which divine timing and then I ended
up driving down to Texas. They offered me this
place to stay they're gonna get me a camper to
travel with and to get into, you know, truck
stop, not a truck stop, but a, you know, a park
to RV and RV and land and stuff. And they're
going to pay for things. And I'm like, I went
from having what you would consider your life
in order. You know, like you get up, you go to
work, you pay your bills, you have a shower,
make, have regular food to my life being this
just utterly chaotic mess and what you would
think destitute. Right. I don't have a job. Don't
have a home. Went from California now I'm out
here in Texas only to get this trailer in this
camper to go back into the Flagstaff area where
I want to be because you know I greatly enjoy
Arizona in the mountains. It's just breathtakingly
beautiful and These are the kind of things that
I'm going through so people that want a near
-death experience and you know go through this
awakening in 2023 also I had my ascension into
the 5d which was brutal I went from my carbon
-based body into my crystalline body, which was,
and I lost my job again. And then on top of all
of that, you have to remind yourself, I chose
this. That's it, right? I chose this. That doesn't
make it any easier. And I found that out when,
just before I left California, because I quantum
leaked into a higher timeline, when I got out,
when I... regressed and went back into the shower
and I said, you know, I'm out of money. So I
call God sometimes when I'm stressed, I call
him pal. I said, listen, pal, you know, my funds,
I'm out of money. I'm out of food. And in three
days, I truly do not want to go back to living
in my car. I would really prefer not to. So all
the help and assistance is, is, is duly appreciated.
So I sat down on the bed, right. And I heard,
get the book. So I got the book and I knew exactly
what it was. Started reading. I'm like, oh my
God, I did this. I chose this. I chose to be
a chosen one, which is the higher frequency.
I chose this life. I chose every part of it.
And that is when I truly accepted it, right?
In this aha moment, the light bulb went off and
I felt this explosion of warmth for me. I got
up. And for the first time since being in California,
I opened up my hotel room and I said, I love
being here. I said, it's just beautiful. Look
at this, right? Things are blooming and I said,
it's just beautiful. And then three days later,
I was back to living in my car, but I chose to
love the experience of being in my car. I said,
it's like the emperor's new clothes. I've been
here. I've done it before. Okay. I can handle
this, I got it, no worries. And it was really
the act of surrendering, really truly surrendering
to the moment, knowing that I was fine, knowing
that I was safe, knowing that I've done it before
and everything is going to work out. After that
aha moment, I was getting groceries at Walmart
in California and I was coming back and it was
after the night I said get the book and I had
this beautiful moment. and began to love my new
job, which is teaching. As I started my website,
I started my YouTube channel, so I have two businesses.
I began to love that unconditionally, like I'm
feeling this warmth love. And as I was coming
back from getting the groceries, I was just in
a magnificent mood, just. So I came, there was
a semi to my right, just a big long semi, and
a car parked in front of me. This is how I know
I. So I'm sitting there for a second, all of
a sudden I felt myself speeding forward. So my
foot is on the brake and I'm white -knuckling
the steering wheel because there's a car in front
of me and I'm traveling fast and I'm like, I
thought I was gonna hit the car and I'm like,
no, no, no, no, no. What is this? And I was like,
that lasted for about five or six seconds. And
I'm like, what was, what the hell was that? Right?
And I'm feeling all of a sudden very lightheaded,
like off in La La Land. And I feel like I got
a vomit, like I'm gonna, I'm gonna throw up.
And I'm like, what is this? And I'm driving like
a grandpa, like. I don't want that to happen.
You're like, it was so weird. I mean, I was moving
rapidly, but I was standing right sitting in
my Jeep. So I got back to the hotel, put the
groceries away, lay down on the bed. That was
a Monday. And I kept having those feelings for
about an hour. And I had meditation music and
what had happened as I quantum leap, I jumped
into a different timeline. It's quantum physics.
So I entered a higher reality, a higher version
of myself. Now, Jason, you're still homeless.
You have to remember that when these things happen,
you kind of get put into the void. Your new life
hasn't begun yet, and your old life is still
ending. It's like an archer. When it draws back
the bow, your elbow goes back into a part of
your old life, right? So you're still living
there. And then when the archer lets go of the
arrow, the arrow goes forward and you move into
your new timeline. So I'm kind of in the void.
The new hasn't come yet and I'm experiencing
the old. There are people of various religions
that because of their background, because of
the teachings that they grew up with, they're
going to say, What in the world is this quantum
leap stuff? What is this numerous lifetimes to
fulfill this life contract? How are people supposed
to reconcile that with what they have been taught?
I'll simply say this, you've been taught horribly
wrong. That's it. So now people are saying, are
you saying my Bible is wrong? My scripture is
wrong, Jason? Absolutely. God doesn't care about
religion. God did not write the Bible. Man did.
They wrote the Bible to keep you living in fear.
It's a control weapon. And it's done its job
for 2 ,000 years. So for those people that you
just lost because of that, I know that they can
learn something from you anyway. I would love
for you to leave us with some kind of a message
of hope. You've taught us some beautiful things,
especially about God's love. Leave us with a
message of hope today. Leave you with a message
that you are never alone and that you are loved.
That this is a non -reality. That what you're
witnessing and feeling and sealing every day
is simply a dream, a hallucination, a game. It's
not real. And that you've never done anything
wrong. And that you are, that you are loved.
And you are never alone. Ever. At any point in
your creation have you been left alone. And at
some point in time I'm sure you have felt alone
here. Lost, angry, scared. But I want you all
to know that you are never alone and that you
are loved unconditionally and that your Father
is anxiously awaiting your arrival home. Jason
Janis, I really appreciate it. All of your insights
and for sharing and being so open with us. Thank
you very much for your time today. Absolutely.
It was a pleasure. Thank you for having me. Thanks
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