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Masadi. We're gonna have an unusual and a really
cool experience today learning a lot From Masadi
welcome to the show. How are you? I'm doing fantastic
Eric. Thanks for having me on Well, you're very
welcome. I've been looking forward to this actually
for months This has been going we've been trying
to get this thing set up and I'm so glad we finally
get to talk But before we jump in to just to
let people know three NDEs we're going to be
talking about with a lot that was learned from
them and takeaways for everybody in their life.
Before we jump into those, give me one minute
of just of your background. Who's Mas? whose
moss well, you know, I was born in Afghanistan
and you know, my father was pretty much a pretty
much a famous surgeon he he was part of the You
know doctors that helped him like dr. Eisenhower.
So at that level so he came to the US and You
know, we were left behind and then in 68 we we
came over, you know I I understood say the culture
and the fascination of being in America But then
also held on to my original culture, you know
the deep level culture, the deep level understanding
and so on like that. I mean, just think America
is only 200 and some years or 300 years old.
Let's just say it's very new compared to cultures
that are, that go back thousands and thousands
of years, you know, and that's in our gene pool
as well. So having the both sides of that was
a little confusing at first, but then later on,
it really gave me a strong foundation, you know,
strong family values and so on. And from that,
I always wanted to be say the best possible human
ever. or I just wanted to enjoy life as grandly
as possible. I went toward the religious route.
Religions are fantastic, but it left a lot of
questions unanswered for me. As a young kid,
you go into, well, I'll be successful. because
then I'll be happy. But again, my father, we
had a lot of high -level or high -profile individuals
visit us during dinner and so on like that. And
I looked at them and I'm going, God, they're
just messed up as anybody else. Their wealth
didn't really help them out. So at a young age,
I was going, well, I don't want to go that way.
And I don't want to go that way. So that's pretty
much me. It's just literally wanting to find
out what makes life tick. you know, to be our
best potential. That is very unusual for a young
person. How old were you, by the way, before
you came here to the States? I was six. Okay.
So that's why I don't have an accent. But yeah,
I was six years old. And by the time I was eight
or nine, I always had like this intuitive, say,
gift of just understanding people at a deep level,
not what they were saying, but just, you know,
when you're a kid, Eric, you have all these abilities,
but then by the time we hit seven or eight, it
gets shut down because our family structure,
maybe religious structure, societal patterns,
it's not the science, all that stuff. But somehow
I kept mine open. And that's what I do today
is I help literally reopen the gifts that we
all have as a child. At that age, I wanted to
be an artist. And because on art projects, I
saw that some kids were so much better at it
than I was, I kind of shut myself down. And it
wasn't that a teacher ever said, oh, you have
no talent. I compared myself and said, I have
no talent compared to those guys, so I better
go figure out something else to do. Anyway, so
I think I can relate and that's really cool that
you kept open to all of that possibility. All
right, let's jump in. I believe it was when you
were 22 years old that you had your first experience
and wow, what a crazy accident. This doesn't
happen every day. Would you mind giving us some
background as to what happened? Yeah. So again,
the biggest key of my near deaths is that I was
pre -programmed or yeah, like pre -programmed
or educated so that near death would actually
help catapult me into higher levels of understanding.
So before that, I was really, I was in college,
college job as a warehouse experience, kind of
confused because again, I was going towards religion
and that didn't help out. And then success and
I'm going, well, what do I want to be? Because
you're a college kid, am I going to waste four
years of my life just fitting into a cog? So
that really created an opportunity. And I think
I wanted to know. who I was so bad or that one
equation of what life is really about that the
universe actually spoke up. It's like, hey, do
you really want to know? And I said, yeah, I
really want to know. So this is where the opportunity
of that first near death happened. I was unloading
rail cars at Target Warehouse. And inside the
rail cars, Eric, they have these moving walls
that keep the product in place. Well, that wall
inside the rail car was stuck. So I you know
being athletic I climbed up and I was just pulling
on the top rail and My team members were pulling
on the bottom and all sudden that that wall probably
about a half ton Just gave way and it just slid
across its rails and it crushed my jaw Between
the ceiling members and the wall. I was just
like glitter crushed right by my jaw not by my
neck I would have probably not come back but
by my jaw And that's where I really realized
who we were or who our potential was because
this was a complete separation of physical form
so what that means is that I was say Hovering
in the railcar and I was looking at my body dangling
and I'm going god That's so limited of who you
could be and I'm going who said that you know,
cuz it's like well cuz I'm I'm over here What
is my body doing over there? And as soon as I
said that it is like Oh, I'm dead. But I didn't
get remorseful or sad or anything like that.
I just go, damn, this is so cool because I get
to experience the potential that I always felt
that I had in real form. And it was amazing.
I didn't even look at my physical body. It's
like, oh, wow. Okay, that's great. Let me see
the potential. It was amazing. And I went into
not the first realm where people start to see,
you know, their loved ones or their dogs or whatever,
welcome them in. You know, the second, third,
fourth is, you know, the spiritual, religious
type aspects, frequencies. I went into the like
the fourth stage of death, which is a life review,
as they call it, but it's actually a right life
we live. So what that is, is that We're living
life as a kindergartener and we don't understand
the concepts of it. But the life review, it's
not about, you know, you did this good, you did
this wrong, you're going to hell or heaven. Nothing
like that. It literally is. You see it from an
educated perspective, like a PhD level, seeing
your life and you go, Oh, that's why this happened.
That's why that happened. And it literally removes
the remorse or guilt or shame and all those things
that we built, you know, pull along with us.
So, and you get to see that things just happen
just literally because out of programming, just
logistics. It's got nothing to do with a religion
or God or, you know, was I a good person, bad
person? Am I paying back debt from a previous
lifetime? It's just literally you were running
this algorithm. This is why it happened. So it
was that kind of logic system in me. I love that
about life reviews that there's not guilt associated
with it. It's a time of learning. It's almost
like a quick university of here's things that
I can learn from what happened in my life. Exactly.
And that's what I do today is like, okay, let's
go back in history of your life. You can't change
what happened because that's written down in
a moment of time, but you can definitely change
the meaning you take away from it. And that's
what I learned on that first near death. It allowed
me to understand the possibilities of who we
are. And it was so amazing. It's like, gosh,
I want to stay here forever. And then the concept
of time, was really interesting as well. And
so I get into time and space and that like quantum
mechanics and so on. And I sat back as I reviewed
my life and I'm going, wait a second, how did
I just relive 22 years of my life in just mere
seconds? So I was still conscious at some level,
because it's not a memory, it's not a review,
it's not fast forward. You literally relive all
of your life, Eric. in a mere few, maybe at the
most, maybe a minute. Including what you felt?
Yes. It wasn't just like watching a movie. It
was like actually reliving it. Reliving it and
rewriting the past, literally as I relived it,
which is quite amazing. And I'm going, how did
I do that? How did I live 22 years in? I don't
know how long, but so time functions were really
distorted for me. Actually, when I came back.
Then as soon as you say whatever you think about
creates itself, which is pretty cool But dangerous
at the same time and we can talk about that later
But you know, I was thinking it's like gosh I
really want to stay here and then you know that
question or that voice comes up It's like yeah,
you could stay here or you can go back and as
soon as you think about going back You go back
and that's where I found myself. I missed that.
I was probably out you know unconscious at the
time, but I found myself in the hospital with
my jaws wired shut. That's when I first woke
up. I don't know how long in between that was.
Yeah. Is there anything else that you remember
from that experience? Any other detail, things
you saw, heard, felt? The amount of love, there
is no judgment there. It's just points of reference.
You just see the beauty, you see the grace of
why we're here, what we've created for. You get
to see the original intention of why we took
billions of years to create such, say, intelligent
system like a human being. And the amount of
love, gosh, the raw love that's there, I can't
even describe it at that level, but it's just
pure, raw, unadultered love. unlike anything
that I've experienced here in physical form in
my 22 years. And it's just quite, quite beautiful,
quite expansive. So you woke up in the hospital.
Did they tell you what happened? I'm just kind
of curious how you got rescued as well. Well,
there was team members, so they probably just,
you know, called the ambulance or whatever. They
took me, they rushed me to the hospital. It was
a, it's a, you know, Fridley, it's a big town.
So the hospital's not too far away. Yeah, what
I did realize though is like when I woke up what
got gained consciousness is like I can't move
my mouth Because they had just wired everything
in they did they left a slit about this much
for a straw so for three months I Literally had
my mom whipped the food up in a blender and I
just sucked my food up whether it's a hamburger
But the coolest thing I didn't care It was the
most beautiful moment because I saw layers of
realities that most people don't. I saw colors,
I heard sounds that doesn't exist in this realm,
and it was really beautiful. I saw the depth
of how, say, trees or even people create themselves,
the deeper layers of who somebody is, not just,
say, their surface, not just the skin or the
suit that we wear here. So it's quite beautiful.
It's quite amazing. You know to be in that state
and observe and look at everything and go. Oh,
that's how things create themselves So it sounds
like a lot of that carried over It wasn't just
I had the experience and then okay that was over
It almost sounds like this really was with you
changed you became part of you I want you in
just a minute to tell me how long it was between
that and your second near -death experience but
also fill in how had your life changed during
that time? My intuition, I gained a lot of intuition.
I could see what was happening. I could see people,
it's like, oh, that person is going to get into
an argument with their spouse or so and so they're
going to get a job promotion or whatever. I could
just like kind of see the future. I would say
it was like psychic abilities, the normal psychic
abilities. And again, we can explain the details
later, but this was more just knowing how timeframes
worked or time functions worked. I used it to
create a massive, very successful internet business
back in the day when I was younger. Yeah, it
was beautiful. It was fantastic. All right. Well,
let's go ahead and jump to experience number
two. Towards experience number two, again, just
as it set the stage, I wasn't happy with my life
because I always wanted to go back. Once you
go and see that realm, you always go, gosh, that
realm is so great. It's like a vacation spot
that is so beautiful. It's like, gosh, I'm really
myself at that level. You know, you have kids,
you get a wife, you get a job, and it sounds
great on the outside. And this is what I help
with people nowadays. It sounds really great
on the outside, highly successful. on the outside,
but inside just like tormented. It's like, gosh,
I'm losing more of myself becoming successful.
I'm losing more of my identity. I feel so hollow.
So things have to break down. And I think that's
where I had a second near death experience. I
just really wanted to understand. I was like,
why can't I have or why can't I be that person
that I experienced in that near death in physical
form? Why do I have to like suffer? Why do I
have to get diseased? I was sick. I was ill.
I was aging. profusely for a 44 year old. Well,
welcome to planet Earth, Moss. Yeah, crazy. I
wish I could say there was a way that we could
live here like what it's like there. As much
as we try, let's face it, it's not the same.
It's not the same, but the second near death,
it was a drowning accident. We were in Belize.
We were on a rafting trip. You know, you get
off the ship, you were on a cruise, you get off
a ship and you go on a rafting trip. We had,
what, three kids at the time? Four kids at the
time, but the one was too small to go on the
trip. So three kids at the time, and the wife
at the time. And it was interesting where, say,
the reality or the jungle, really knows what's
going on. As we got on, it was windy, there was
birds or animal noises in the jungle. As soon
as we got on, it got dead silence. It was like
a movie set. It was like everything, just no
wind, nothing. It just quieted down. I'm going,
wow, why is it so quiet? Everything was predetermined
for me. They had life jackets for everybody.
It was a big group. They had life jackets for
everybody except for me. So I said, well, I'm
a strong swimmer. You know, I was in high school
swimming and all that. I'll be okay. I've got
an inner tube, right? Again, preset, pre -staged.
And as soon as we got into the river, which was
flowing really fast, it says, okay, like you
got to stay connected. Otherwise you might go
into other tributaries. Well, that's what happened.
Somehow I let go. of the group and my son and
I, we went the other way and we got stuck into
a cenotes. Basically I got sucked out of the
inner tube and I got pulled into say the depths
of the river. Probably back then it was probably
a lava tube. Now it's filled with, you know,
water. So like a whirlpool kind of thing sucking
you down? Yeah, it was like a, imagine a, you
know, big rock sticking out with a hole. Yeah.
Manhole size. And I just got pulled in. And I'm
trying to climb back up and I'm going, oh my
God, you know, and the power, the force of the
power, water going in is too much. And that's
where, you know, you say goodbye to your loved
ones. You know, it's like, damn, I'm just 44.
I just started life. It was like, well, you know,
why? And I couldn't hold my breath any longer.
And I just let go. It's like, okay, I guess this
is the way it is. This is where it became really
familiar. It's like, oh. here I go again and
I was like really super excited because I got
to go back to that brilliance and it's like but
this time what was amazing is that I saw my body
like go down you know into you know the darkness
and then I myself transcended you know through
the water and I could still feel the coolness
but the expansion of the water and then I just
transcended and you know that how they say you
go through the tunnel of light I wouldn't pass
through the tunnel of light so there's about
13 14 layers basically a cleansing process for
the spirit I would say you get a 13th layer and
you graduate and If you graduate, you're not
supposed to come back. But somehow I sneaked
past the curtains. And this is where I got downloaded
on how this reality works, the logistics or the
physics of this reality. This is where I saw
all possibilities of what is, all things happening
at once. Like Einstein always says, everything
happens at once, if it wasn't for time and space.
That's true. Everything I saw my past, I saw
my future, I saw everybody else's. It's literally
a huge database of possibilities out there all
just floating around. If you focus on something,
you get to experience it. The amount of love
or grace. that is up there. It's just quite amazing.
It's just so beautiful. And again, it's not denoted
to a religion or, you know, a God, it's just
like you. It's a, it's a, it's a universe of
who you are. And then also, you know, an awareness
that there's a higher intelligence that created
this space as well. And I go, dang, it's so beautiful.
And there's this beautiful blue that always sticks
with me. So in that case, I don't know how I
got out of the hole, but it's like when it was
my time to come back. It's like some of the God's
hands, so to speak, like pulled me out, put me
on the side of the river and woke me up. I was
looking, my hands were bloody, my back was bloody,
but I wasn't drowning. I didn't need to get resuscitated.
I'm just like, how did I get back here? And I
could still see the inner tube getting sucked
into the hole. It was too big for it. And I'm
going, wow, this is amazing. is beautiful, that
resonance was still there with me. But from that
second near death, this is where I got the logistics
and what my abilities are today of helping people,
shifting people, where you can edit people. It
doesn't take 20 years of therapy or anything
like that. People will literally radically transform
with the work that I do, just like I did. By
the way, was your son okay? Yeah, I had pushed
them aside. I pushed them out of the way and
then I got sucked in. They went past the hole.
Explain that blue to me a little bit more. Blue?
It's that ocean blue. It's interesting. You know
that deep ocean blue? That purplish blue that
you see in the deep ocean? Everything was like
that. I mean literally everything. It's just
like imagine you're like sitting on the edge
of the universe. And you're just looking out
into the stars. There's no time, there's no space
at that level. And you're just sitting on the
edge of time and space, literally looking towards
say time and space or this reality or this universe.
And you could see, you could start to see or
understand the principles on how things get created.
And it's just a beautiful space that's just so
expansive that holds everything. So it was much
more than just the water you were seeing. the
expanse of space. You were seeing sort of an
everything. Yeah, you literally sitting on edge
and seeing the universe. So you weren't in space,
you were literally outside of space looking at
the universe. Yeah. So you mentioned you felt
like this was all pre -staged. So I've got to
ask pre -staged by who or by what or why? That's
a great question. Maybe a higher power, maybe
my higher self really wanting to say, embody
what our potential is really about. So this is
how we create ourselves, right? You know, we
have a program and then that program runs and
that's what we call our life. So for me, I think
I was here to really understand what life is
about at a very, very deep level and help others
that way as well. So these near -death experiences,
my third one, I think helped me realize that
if you think of it as an apprentice level, apprentice
level, you start to understand, say, your trade,
if that makes sense for you. You start to understand
the concepts that we are more than just physical
beings, because I was a computer programmer.
Just basic logic, or basic science, and that's
what society today is. It's just like, if we
can't measure it, it doesn't exist. But that
proved to me as like, wait a second, there's
a lot of things that we can't measure that exists
that create this reality. So that was the apprentice
stage. And then the second near death was the
journeyman stage, where literally I started to
learn on say the mechanics or the programming
on how humans render themselves. And this is
where I can help people with, you know, if they're
diseased, I don't claim to be a doctor, but people
who have cured themselves of the most amazing
diseases or they've become wealthier or they
become, you know, more congruent with their relationships
and so on like that. So how do you change that?
Literally, it's a program. The second one really
allowed me to say, understand my craft on what
I do. And then the third near death was more,
I died in Peru. probably the altitude, probably
COVID, it was around COVID time, probably about
three, four years ago actually. And that really
allowed me to close everything up or become mastery
level, I would say. Maybe I had COVID at the
time, but basically every aspect of me slowed
down. So I didn't have enough minerals to sustain
life and I just went out again, died. And they
measured my brain and it was just mush. And then
20 minutes later, they measured the brain scan
again, because at high altitudes, they thought
something had ruptured in my brain. Embolism?
Yeah, embolisms, yeah. And then 20 minutes later,
they measured my brain again, and it was like
of a pristine. And I was like, what, 60 at the
time? And my brain looked like a perfect walnut
shape, like a 25 -year -old brain. something
radically say shifted and transformed. So the
third near death was literally embodying say
youth and vitality of a younger version of myself.
Let's talk about some of the takeaways because
I don't think NDEs are just for a, you know,
like going to Disneyland, they're just a ride
for woohoo kind of thing. They are to teach things,
especially to the person that experiences it.
And some people can share it with others. And
so we've got a lot more to get into here, but
I was curious, you used the term download. Is
that basically how you learned? Is a lot of information
felt like it was downloaded to you at a time?
Yes. Or, you know, you let go of your identity
of who you are, a physical body, so you remember
or you reclaim the original identity of who you
are. Okay. How does... quantum physics or mechanics
relate to all of this and frequency? Time and
space, say you're an infinite being, I call it
a timeless self, a consciousness and intelligence
that renders our physical body here. So quantum
mechanics are really getting into that and I
work with quantum computers and AI and so on
to really create, say, coherence in them. So
in that sense, the quantum realm out there, Things
that affect say particles here, that's how it
gets involved. There is a consciousness layer
that goes say beyond say the fabric of space
and time that create physical form here. And
that's the reality that I exist in today. So
imagine that your thoughts, your thoughts, right?
It doesn't render anything, but then you manifest
it into say a physical manifestation, like an
invention or something like that. It's somewhat.
very similar to that, but at a higher level.
So imagine an intelligence, that intelligence
thought some people might call your spirit rendering
itself in physical form here. So that connection,
that bridge layer is say what I work at today,
understanding that bridge layer. So it's almost
like things are created, you use the term spirit,
things are created spiritually or some other
way than physically. Yes, it's always like that.
Again, anything invented here or created came
from, say, a form, right, or a thought form.
But then where did that thought form come from?
And, you know, I could explain how like Tesla,
Tesla, for example, Nikola Tesla, according to
his own writings, he basically zoned out, so
to speak, kind of a, say, a near death or even
psychedelics. help you disconnect from your physical
form. He escapes into a higher realm where those
inventions already exist. And then he understands
them at that level. And then he has the ability
to bring that, say, consciousness or that intelligence
into this dimension of time and space. Hence,
he was ahead of his time, decades ahead of his
time. People like Anita Mirjani, who had a near
-death experience. She didn't really heal herself,
so to speak. What she did was literally, you've
heard of Anita Marjani, right? Yeah, I've met
Anita at some ions events. Beautiful. Yeah, I'm
part of ions too. So Anita, for example, how
did she heal herself? So what she did was there
is a version of herself, you know, that was say
cancerous, right? This version of Anita had cancer.
Now, in quantum physics, it dictates You know
that there are million of possibilities of who
you are. So what Anita did was literally through
her near -death experience She escaped this physical
realm disconnected and then when she landed back
for some reason She landed into another realm
where Anita didn't have cancer. So that's why
I say she didn't really heal herself. She just
repositioned herself in another safe frame of
another dimension of time and space. And when
you do that, this is where those miraculous healings
happen, where doctors still document, it's like,
how did that happen? How did that tumor just
disappear? It's physically impossible for something
to re -render itself in another form. But that's
how Anita and many other, say, miraculous cases
of healing or transformation happen. That's very
difficult to understand, I have to admit. Especially
if there's some sort of parallel dimension. What
happens with the other one where she was still
sick? Or is that one just gone and replaced with
this new one? Really good question. So think
of this like here, and let's just use colors.
In this version of who you are, you're shining
your light, so to speak. You're paying attention
or your focus onto this version, which in this
case is say, cancerous or ill or say imprisoned,
so to speak. So in this case, this act, imagine
stages of life. Okay. There's millions of different
stages that you could be in. So each stage is
available for you, but it doesn't mean like Miss
Quantum Theorists think that You're rendering
another life here. There's millions of you doing
all these things. No, these are millions of possibilities
or millions of stages that you can render yourself
in. It just depends on the actor and which stage
they choose. So yes, so this version is like,
she's basically going, well, I'm not going to
play that version anymore. I want to play this
version of Anita. So this stage, basically there's
no light cast upon her. So it just sits there
as a possibility. And in other words, there are
millions of different possibilities of who you
could be. You're just casting your light or putting
your intention, and that's what creates a motion
or life here. So what I'm saying is like, well,
we can disconnect from that, observe another
possibility, and then cast our light or play
the actor in another stage. It's a crazy concept,
but - It is, and it's something that Sounds like
it should be innate, but most of us don't know
how to do that. So do you have any practical
advice on how to do it? Absolutely. I call it
spatial referencing and, you know, I've got programs
and meditations. I call them hypermeditations.
And by the way, we'll put a link to your website
in the show notes so everybody can look this
stuff up. Okay, go ahead. Yeah, but spatial referencing
is really important. So a lot of people, they
are creating themselves through like four ingredients,
which is, you know, genetic patterns, you know,
mom, dad, and, you know, and so on like that.
Generational patterns, you know, the time frame
that you're born, like Baby Boomers, Next Gen,
you know, Generation Z and all that. So you're
encoded with that, say, type. Societal patterns.
Right the time frame that you're born in really
dictates on how you render or how you see yourself
and then life Experiences including some maybe
past life experiences that you've had So so so
those four ingredients create say an image or
who you think you are, but that's not really
true It's just an experience of say your parents
having and there's more and more data coming
out on say parents who've been in war or been
in famine like four or five generations down,
that child is still eliciting memories of being
in famine. They have symptoms of like being in
famish, although they've got plenty of food.
So those concepts of self, those aren't really
you. So when you start to spatial reference,
you start to become an observer. And I know it
sounds crazy, but there's so many people that
have gotten off their psychotic medication, just
doing spatial referencing. And what that is is
like, you start to observe what reality you're
creating yourself in. And all you have to do
is like, for example, there's an image, there's
a picture over there. Imagine, not to imagine,
but notice the picture and notice a point on
your body, like your chin or your collarbone.
Notice sounds coming around from you. Notice
the direction of the sound and then a point on
your body. Notice scents around you. Notice the,
again, the direction and then a point on your
body. It's like triangulation. So you use your
five senses to like hone in to know exactly what
dimension of time and space you're in. It sounds
crazy, but people feel really, especially people
who have ADD anxiety and so on. Once they stabilize,
once they use spatial referencing, they literally
start to go, gosh, I'm really calm. Because that's
what most people don't understand that it's not
their mindset. like Tony Robbins and all those
fantastic people teach that dictate how your
life runs. It literally is the dimension of time
and space that you're rendering yourself through
that creates, say, the quality. If you just did
that, the object first and then a point on your
body. Just do that throughout the day. You'll
see how centered you become. You become the observer
of how you're running life. All right. Good place
to start. Before I let you go. I'm going to give
you the last word and I'm going to ask you to
do something difficult for me. That is, you mentioned
a couple of times the love that you felt during
these NDEs. You also said you couldn't explain
it really, but I'm going to ask you to try again.
Try to dig deep into your adjectives and see
if there's any way that you can explain it so
that we can really feel it. Okay. Maybe I can
help generate this, if you don't mind. If you
could just take a couple of minutes and maybe
I could pull you into that experience. Is that
okay with you? Yes, please. Okay. So take your
breath in. And this is your audience, even if
this is on a recording, I'm sure you'll feel
it. Another breath in. Okay. Most love. is objective.
It's most love is seen from an external point
directing towards you. Okay, so breathe in. Let
me help you expand. The love I felt was not a
source outside of me, but after you remove those
filters, you start to experience the love flowing
from you. And that's the difference. once it
starts to flow from you, you know that it's never
ending. You know that there's no consequences.
It's not like if you did something wrong, it
shuts off because the source is you. So it flows
through you and that's what you resonate or you
emanate with. Breathe in again. And once you
feel that love, this is where you know that you're
guided. You know that there is a higher presence
your higher self, however you want to define
it, doesn't matter, is got your back. And as
you understand that you're secure, this is where
you can start to live life in the most expansive
way. And this is how it just doesn't help heal
you and help you become better, but it also helps
you understand who you are at such a deep level
that that presence allows you to expand into
other people, the loved ones around you in society
as a whole. And this is where Earth can change
dramatically. This is where our leaders, being
in that state, can radically change without corruption
or distortion or abuse or control. That's what's
really, really important. I don't know if you
felt anything, but... I feel very calm and peaceful.
Yeah. So if you perpetuated that, that's just
the initiation. All right. What if you could
just stay in that presence of yourself, not me,
but of yourself, cause it's your higher self
I helped invite in and the people listening.
What if you could stay in that in 20, you know,
24 seven, what kind of life would that happen
to you where you just had that calm and peace
knowing that you're happy and you're safe and
you know, you're loved at a deep level. I can
deal with that. Yeah. It's beautiful space, isn't
it? Yeah. Thanks a lot, Mas. I appreciate it.
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