WEBVTT 00:00:05.530 --> 00:00:08.150 Welcome, welcome to Round Trip Death, where we 00:00:08.150 --> 00:00:10.570 have conversations with people who have died, 00:00:11.470 --> 00:00:13.810 experienced a glimpse of the other side, and 00:00:13.810 --> 00:00:16.910 return to talk about it. I hope you know this 00:00:16.910 --> 00:00:20.370 podcast isn't for me, it's not for Will, it's 00:00:20.370 --> 00:00:23.629 for you, each one of you who listens regularly, 00:00:24.030 --> 00:00:26.829 and now is your chance to give some input on 00:00:26.829 --> 00:00:29.800 the show. We recently updated the intro into 00:00:29.800 --> 00:00:33.159 what we thought was a fun spin on the mystery 00:00:33.159 --> 00:00:36.719 of NDEs with a David Attenborough type of voice. 00:00:37.039 --> 00:00:40.060 While some of you love it, to our surprise, some 00:00:40.060 --> 00:00:44.859 are also vocally opposed to it. First of all, 00:00:44.899 --> 00:00:47.719 thank you for caring so much and listening so 00:00:47.719 --> 00:00:50.920 intently to even have an opinion, but we want 00:00:50.920 --> 00:00:53.859 to hear from even more of you. So if you're on 00:00:53.859 --> 00:00:57.299 YouTube, drop a comment on whether you like or 00:00:57.299 --> 00:00:59.780 dislike the new intro that we ran in the last 00:00:59.780 --> 00:01:02.259 three or four episodes. If you're listening on 00:01:02.259 --> 00:01:05.439 a podcast app it's not quite as simple, but just 00:01:05.439 --> 00:01:07.840 take a second to shoot a brief email over to 00:01:07.840 --> 00:01:10.859 me, eric, at roundtripdeath .com. Your voice 00:01:10.859 --> 00:01:14.019 really does matter and helps us determine the 00:01:14.019 --> 00:01:16.760 format of the show. One more quick note before 00:01:16.760 --> 00:01:19.920 we get to today's guest. Thank you, thank you 00:01:19.920 --> 00:01:23.299 to everyone who sent Christmas cards. We absolutely 00:01:23.299 --> 00:01:26.620 loved them. We read every single one. So many 00:01:26.620 --> 00:01:29.620 of you included personal letters. That show of 00:01:29.620 --> 00:01:32.620 love and support really helps keep us going. 00:01:32.859 --> 00:01:35.799 Really, thank you again. Now buckle up for our 00:01:35.799 --> 00:01:39.219 conversation with three -time near -death experiencer 00:01:39.219 --> 00:01:45.239 Masadi. We're gonna have an unusual and a really 00:01:45.239 --> 00:01:49.140 cool experience today learning a lot From Masadi 00:01:49.140 --> 00:01:52.420 welcome to the show. How are you? I'm doing fantastic 00:01:52.420 --> 00:01:55.359 Eric. Thanks for having me on Well, you're very 00:01:55.359 --> 00:01:58.180 welcome. I've been looking forward to this actually 00:01:58.180 --> 00:02:01.739 for months This has been going we've been trying 00:02:01.739 --> 00:02:05.000 to get this thing set up and I'm so glad we finally 00:02:05.000 --> 00:02:09.120 get to talk But before we jump in to just to 00:02:09.120 --> 00:02:12.199 let people know three NDEs we're going to be 00:02:12.199 --> 00:02:16.419 talking about with a lot that was learned from 00:02:16.419 --> 00:02:20.639 them and takeaways for everybody in their life. 00:02:21.199 --> 00:02:24.620 Before we jump into those, give me one minute 00:02:24.620 --> 00:02:27.819 of just of your background. Who's Mas? whose 00:02:27.819 --> 00:02:30.460 moss well, you know, I was born in Afghanistan 00:02:30.460 --> 00:02:33.699 and you know, my father was pretty much a pretty 00:02:33.699 --> 00:02:36.659 much a famous surgeon he he was part of the You 00:02:36.659 --> 00:02:38.840 know doctors that helped him like dr. Eisenhower. 00:02:38.840 --> 00:02:42.879 So at that level so he came to the US and You 00:02:42.879 --> 00:02:46.060 know, we were left behind and then in 68 we we 00:02:46.060 --> 00:02:49.680 came over, you know I I understood say the culture 00:02:49.680 --> 00:02:52.979 and the fascination of being in America But then 00:02:52.979 --> 00:02:55.360 also held on to my original culture, you know 00:02:55.360 --> 00:02:57.830 the deep level culture, the deep level understanding 00:02:57.830 --> 00:02:59.669 and so on like that. I mean, just think America 00:02:59.669 --> 00:03:02.069 is only 200 and some years or 300 years old. 00:03:02.330 --> 00:03:05.090 Let's just say it's very new compared to cultures 00:03:05.090 --> 00:03:07.469 that are, that go back thousands and thousands 00:03:07.469 --> 00:03:09.949 of years, you know, and that's in our gene pool 00:03:09.949 --> 00:03:13.430 as well. So having the both sides of that was 00:03:13.430 --> 00:03:15.909 a little confusing at first, but then later on, 00:03:16.030 --> 00:03:18.750 it really gave me a strong foundation, you know, 00:03:18.909 --> 00:03:21.870 strong family values and so on. And from that, 00:03:21.870 --> 00:03:25.610 I always wanted to be say the best possible human 00:03:25.610 --> 00:03:30.310 ever. or I just wanted to enjoy life as grandly 00:03:30.310 --> 00:03:35.289 as possible. I went toward the religious route. 00:03:36.069 --> 00:03:38.330 Religions are fantastic, but it left a lot of 00:03:38.330 --> 00:03:43.069 questions unanswered for me. As a young kid, 00:03:43.409 --> 00:03:46.520 you go into, well, I'll be successful. because 00:03:46.520 --> 00:03:50.840 then I'll be happy. But again, my father, we 00:03:50.840 --> 00:03:53.919 had a lot of high -level or high -profile individuals 00:03:53.919 --> 00:03:56.620 visit us during dinner and so on like that. And 00:03:56.620 --> 00:03:58.979 I looked at them and I'm going, God, they're 00:03:58.979 --> 00:04:01.240 just messed up as anybody else. Their wealth 00:04:01.240 --> 00:04:04.780 didn't really help them out. So at a young age, 00:04:04.780 --> 00:04:07.020 I was going, well, I don't want to go that way. 00:04:07.039 --> 00:04:10.360 And I don't want to go that way. So that's pretty 00:04:10.360 --> 00:04:12.900 much me. It's just literally wanting to find 00:04:12.900 --> 00:04:16.769 out what makes life tick. you know, to be our 00:04:16.769 --> 00:04:20.569 best potential. That is very unusual for a young 00:04:20.569 --> 00:04:23.509 person. How old were you, by the way, before 00:04:23.509 --> 00:04:27.230 you came here to the States? I was six. Okay. 00:04:27.610 --> 00:04:30.069 So that's why I don't have an accent. But yeah, 00:04:30.069 --> 00:04:32.730 I was six years old. And by the time I was eight 00:04:32.730 --> 00:04:35.790 or nine, I always had like this intuitive, say, 00:04:35.949 --> 00:04:39.370 gift of just understanding people at a deep level, 00:04:39.410 --> 00:04:42.230 not what they were saying, but just, you know, 00:04:42.230 --> 00:04:45.550 when you're a kid, Eric, you have all these abilities, 00:04:45.569 --> 00:04:48.629 but then by the time we hit seven or eight, it 00:04:48.629 --> 00:04:51.189 gets shut down because our family structure, 00:04:51.430 --> 00:04:53.810 maybe religious structure, societal patterns, 00:04:54.129 --> 00:04:57.129 it's not the science, all that stuff. But somehow 00:04:57.129 --> 00:05:00.649 I kept mine open. And that's what I do today 00:05:00.649 --> 00:05:03.769 is I help literally reopen the gifts that we 00:05:03.769 --> 00:05:07.370 all have as a child. At that age, I wanted to 00:05:07.370 --> 00:05:11.899 be an artist. And because on art projects, I 00:05:11.899 --> 00:05:14.259 saw that some kids were so much better at it 00:05:14.259 --> 00:05:19.360 than I was, I kind of shut myself down. And it 00:05:19.360 --> 00:05:21.439 wasn't that a teacher ever said, oh, you have 00:05:21.439 --> 00:05:25.060 no talent. I compared myself and said, I have 00:05:25.060 --> 00:05:27.899 no talent compared to those guys, so I better 00:05:27.899 --> 00:05:32.019 go figure out something else to do. Anyway, so 00:05:32.019 --> 00:05:34.720 I think I can relate and that's really cool that 00:05:34.720 --> 00:05:37.740 you kept open to all of that possibility. All 00:05:37.740 --> 00:05:41.389 right, let's jump in. I believe it was when you 00:05:41.389 --> 00:05:44.589 were 22 years old that you had your first experience 00:05:44.589 --> 00:05:47.490 and wow, what a crazy accident. This doesn't 00:05:47.490 --> 00:05:49.810 happen every day. Would you mind giving us some 00:05:49.810 --> 00:05:53.449 background as to what happened? Yeah. So again, 00:05:53.629 --> 00:05:57.889 the biggest key of my near deaths is that I was 00:05:57.889 --> 00:06:01.430 pre -programmed or yeah, like pre -programmed 00:06:01.430 --> 00:06:04.170 or educated so that near death would actually 00:06:04.170 --> 00:06:07.189 help catapult me into higher levels of understanding. 00:06:07.399 --> 00:06:10.819 So before that, I was really, I was in college, 00:06:11.459 --> 00:06:14.500 college job as a warehouse experience, kind of 00:06:14.500 --> 00:06:17.139 confused because again, I was going towards religion 00:06:17.139 --> 00:06:19.300 and that didn't help out. And then success and 00:06:19.300 --> 00:06:21.300 I'm going, well, what do I want to be? Because 00:06:21.300 --> 00:06:23.360 you're a college kid, am I going to waste four 00:06:23.360 --> 00:06:27.000 years of my life just fitting into a cog? So 00:06:27.000 --> 00:06:29.939 that really created an opportunity. And I think 00:06:29.939 --> 00:06:34.149 I wanted to know. who I was so bad or that one 00:06:34.149 --> 00:06:36.850 equation of what life is really about that the 00:06:36.850 --> 00:06:38.670 universe actually spoke up. It's like, hey, do 00:06:38.670 --> 00:06:40.889 you really want to know? And I said, yeah, I 00:06:40.889 --> 00:06:45.350 really want to know. So this is where the opportunity 00:06:45.350 --> 00:06:48.069 of that first near death happened. I was unloading 00:06:48.069 --> 00:06:51.569 rail cars at Target Warehouse. And inside the 00:06:51.569 --> 00:06:54.050 rail cars, Eric, they have these moving walls 00:06:54.050 --> 00:06:57.350 that keep the product in place. Well, that wall 00:06:57.350 --> 00:07:00.769 inside the rail car was stuck. So I you know 00:07:00.769 --> 00:07:03.470 being athletic I climbed up and I was just pulling 00:07:03.470 --> 00:07:06.610 on the top rail and My team members were pulling 00:07:06.610 --> 00:07:09.209 on the bottom and all sudden that that wall probably 00:07:09.209 --> 00:07:12.329 about a half ton Just gave way and it just slid 00:07:12.329 --> 00:07:16.029 across its rails and it crushed my jaw Between 00:07:16.029 --> 00:07:18.069 the ceiling members and the wall. I was just 00:07:18.069 --> 00:07:20.050 like glitter crushed right by my jaw not by my 00:07:20.050 --> 00:07:22.750 neck I would have probably not come back but 00:07:22.750 --> 00:07:26.660 by my jaw And that's where I really realized 00:07:26.660 --> 00:07:29.579 who we were or who our potential was because 00:07:29.579 --> 00:07:33.259 this was a complete separation of physical form 00:07:33.259 --> 00:07:37.720 so what that means is that I was say Hovering 00:07:37.720 --> 00:07:40.839 in the railcar and I was looking at my body dangling 00:07:40.839 --> 00:07:43.639 and I'm going god That's so limited of who you 00:07:43.639 --> 00:07:46.459 could be and I'm going who said that you know, 00:07:46.519 --> 00:07:49.279 cuz it's like well cuz I'm I'm over here What 00:07:49.279 --> 00:07:51.819 is my body doing over there? And as soon as I 00:07:51.819 --> 00:07:55.680 said that it is like Oh, I'm dead. But I didn't 00:07:55.680 --> 00:07:57.980 get remorseful or sad or anything like that. 00:07:58.100 --> 00:08:01.040 I just go, damn, this is so cool because I get 00:08:01.040 --> 00:08:04.360 to experience the potential that I always felt 00:08:04.360 --> 00:08:07.540 that I had in real form. And it was amazing. 00:08:07.680 --> 00:08:10.100 I didn't even look at my physical body. It's 00:08:10.100 --> 00:08:12.459 like, oh, wow. Okay, that's great. Let me see 00:08:12.459 --> 00:08:15.610 the potential. It was amazing. And I went into 00:08:15.610 --> 00:08:18.810 not the first realm where people start to see, 00:08:18.810 --> 00:08:21.310 you know, their loved ones or their dogs or whatever, 00:08:21.649 --> 00:08:23.490 welcome them in. You know, the second, third, 00:08:23.589 --> 00:08:25.490 fourth is, you know, the spiritual, religious 00:08:25.490 --> 00:08:28.709 type aspects, frequencies. I went into the like 00:08:28.709 --> 00:08:32.669 the fourth stage of death, which is a life review, 00:08:32.909 --> 00:08:35.090 as they call it, but it's actually a right life 00:08:35.090 --> 00:08:38.139 we live. So what that is, is that We're living 00:08:38.139 --> 00:08:40.820 life as a kindergartener and we don't understand 00:08:40.820 --> 00:08:43.899 the concepts of it. But the life review, it's 00:08:43.899 --> 00:08:45.700 not about, you know, you did this good, you did 00:08:45.700 --> 00:08:47.870 this wrong, you're going to hell or heaven. Nothing 00:08:47.870 --> 00:08:50.570 like that. It literally is. You see it from an 00:08:50.570 --> 00:08:53.750 educated perspective, like a PhD level, seeing 00:08:53.750 --> 00:08:56.289 your life and you go, Oh, that's why this happened. 00:08:56.389 --> 00:08:59.269 That's why that happened. And it literally removes 00:08:59.269 --> 00:09:02.029 the remorse or guilt or shame and all those things 00:09:02.029 --> 00:09:04.450 that we built, you know, pull along with us. 00:09:04.669 --> 00:09:07.409 So, and you get to see that things just happen 00:09:07.409 --> 00:09:10.269 just literally because out of programming, just 00:09:10.269 --> 00:09:13.029 logistics. It's got nothing to do with a religion 00:09:13.029 --> 00:09:16.029 or God or, you know, was I a good person, bad 00:09:16.029 --> 00:09:18.269 person? Am I paying back debt from a previous 00:09:18.269 --> 00:09:20.009 lifetime? It's just literally you were running 00:09:20.009 --> 00:09:22.649 this algorithm. This is why it happened. So it 00:09:22.649 --> 00:09:25.909 was that kind of logic system in me. I love that 00:09:25.909 --> 00:09:29.289 about life reviews that there's not guilt associated 00:09:29.289 --> 00:09:32.049 with it. It's a time of learning. It's almost 00:09:32.049 --> 00:09:35.549 like a quick university of here's things that 00:09:35.549 --> 00:09:39.100 I can learn from what happened in my life. Exactly. 00:09:39.539 --> 00:09:41.519 And that's what I do today is like, okay, let's 00:09:41.519 --> 00:09:44.399 go back in history of your life. You can't change 00:09:44.399 --> 00:09:46.740 what happened because that's written down in 00:09:46.740 --> 00:09:49.639 a moment of time, but you can definitely change 00:09:49.639 --> 00:09:52.500 the meaning you take away from it. And that's 00:09:52.500 --> 00:09:56.299 what I learned on that first near death. It allowed 00:09:56.299 --> 00:09:58.960 me to understand the possibilities of who we 00:09:58.960 --> 00:10:01.340 are. And it was so amazing. It's like, gosh, 00:10:01.440 --> 00:10:05.299 I want to stay here forever. And then the concept 00:10:05.299 --> 00:10:08.990 of time, was really interesting as well. And 00:10:08.990 --> 00:10:11.509 so I get into time and space and that like quantum 00:10:11.509 --> 00:10:14.629 mechanics and so on. And I sat back as I reviewed 00:10:14.629 --> 00:10:17.529 my life and I'm going, wait a second, how did 00:10:17.529 --> 00:10:21.990 I just relive 22 years of my life in just mere 00:10:21.990 --> 00:10:24.830 seconds? So I was still conscious at some level, 00:10:25.309 --> 00:10:27.549 because it's not a memory, it's not a review, 00:10:27.909 --> 00:10:30.970 it's not fast forward. You literally relive all 00:10:30.970 --> 00:10:35.379 of your life, Eric. in a mere few, maybe at the 00:10:35.379 --> 00:10:39.039 most, maybe a minute. Including what you felt? 00:10:40.000 --> 00:10:42.940 Yes. It wasn't just like watching a movie. It 00:10:42.940 --> 00:10:46.399 was like actually reliving it. Reliving it and 00:10:46.399 --> 00:10:49.919 rewriting the past, literally as I relived it, 00:10:50.039 --> 00:10:51.779 which is quite amazing. And I'm going, how did 00:10:51.779 --> 00:10:55.320 I do that? How did I live 22 years in? I don't 00:10:55.320 --> 00:10:58.000 know how long, but so time functions were really 00:10:58.000 --> 00:11:00.399 distorted for me. Actually, when I came back. 00:11:00.519 --> 00:11:03.299 Then as soon as you say whatever you think about 00:11:03.299 --> 00:11:06.759 creates itself, which is pretty cool But dangerous 00:11:06.759 --> 00:11:09.100 at the same time and we can talk about that later 00:11:09.100 --> 00:11:11.379 But you know, I was thinking it's like gosh I 00:11:11.379 --> 00:11:14.539 really want to stay here and then you know that 00:11:14.539 --> 00:11:16.700 question or that voice comes up It's like yeah, 00:11:16.700 --> 00:11:20.179 you could stay here or you can go back and as 00:11:20.179 --> 00:11:23.259 soon as you think about going back You go back 00:11:23.259 --> 00:11:26.620 and that's where I found myself. I missed that. 00:11:26.620 --> 00:11:30.629 I was probably out you know unconscious at the 00:11:30.629 --> 00:11:33.289 time, but I found myself in the hospital with 00:11:33.289 --> 00:11:35.730 my jaws wired shut. That's when I first woke 00:11:35.730 --> 00:11:38.610 up. I don't know how long in between that was. 00:11:39.129 --> 00:11:42.190 Yeah. Is there anything else that you remember 00:11:42.190 --> 00:11:45.370 from that experience? Any other detail, things 00:11:45.370 --> 00:11:49.139 you saw, heard, felt? The amount of love, there 00:11:49.139 --> 00:11:51.860 is no judgment there. It's just points of reference. 00:11:52.080 --> 00:11:55.200 You just see the beauty, you see the grace of 00:11:55.200 --> 00:11:57.799 why we're here, what we've created for. You get 00:11:57.799 --> 00:12:00.500 to see the original intention of why we took 00:12:00.500 --> 00:12:03.620 billions of years to create such, say, intelligent 00:12:03.620 --> 00:12:06.639 system like a human being. And the amount of 00:12:06.639 --> 00:12:11.440 love, gosh, the raw love that's there, I can't 00:12:11.440 --> 00:12:14.419 even describe it at that level, but it's just 00:12:14.419 --> 00:12:18.389 pure, raw, unadultered love. unlike anything 00:12:18.389 --> 00:12:20.929 that I've experienced here in physical form in 00:12:20.929 --> 00:12:24.129 my 22 years. And it's just quite, quite beautiful, 00:12:24.409 --> 00:12:27.529 quite expansive. So you woke up in the hospital. 00:12:27.669 --> 00:12:29.629 Did they tell you what happened? I'm just kind 00:12:29.629 --> 00:12:32.389 of curious how you got rescued as well. Well, 00:12:32.470 --> 00:12:34.649 there was team members, so they probably just, 00:12:34.649 --> 00:12:37.350 you know, called the ambulance or whatever. They 00:12:37.350 --> 00:12:39.370 took me, they rushed me to the hospital. It was 00:12:39.370 --> 00:12:42.350 a, it's a, you know, Fridley, it's a big town. 00:12:42.870 --> 00:12:45.909 So the hospital's not too far away. Yeah, what 00:12:45.909 --> 00:12:49.509 I did realize though is like when I woke up what 00:12:49.509 --> 00:12:51.909 got gained consciousness is like I can't move 00:12:51.909 --> 00:12:54.750 my mouth Because they had just wired everything 00:12:54.750 --> 00:12:57.370 in they did they left a slit about this much 00:12:57.370 --> 00:13:02.309 for a straw so for three months I Literally had 00:13:02.309 --> 00:13:05.110 my mom whipped the food up in a blender and I 00:13:05.110 --> 00:13:07.570 just sucked my food up whether it's a hamburger 00:13:07.570 --> 00:13:13.500 But the coolest thing I didn't care It was the 00:13:13.500 --> 00:13:16.419 most beautiful moment because I saw layers of 00:13:16.419 --> 00:13:19.740 realities that most people don't. I saw colors, 00:13:20.220 --> 00:13:24.240 I heard sounds that doesn't exist in this realm, 00:13:24.600 --> 00:13:26.779 and it was really beautiful. I saw the depth 00:13:26.779 --> 00:13:31.779 of how, say, trees or even people create themselves, 00:13:32.139 --> 00:13:34.679 the deeper layers of who somebody is, not just, 00:13:34.679 --> 00:13:37.720 say, their surface, not just the skin or the 00:13:37.720 --> 00:13:39.720 suit that we wear here. So it's quite beautiful. 00:13:39.840 --> 00:13:43.179 It's quite amazing. You know to be in that state 00:13:43.179 --> 00:13:46.440 and observe and look at everything and go. Oh, 00:13:46.500 --> 00:13:49.580 that's how things create themselves So it sounds 00:13:49.580 --> 00:13:52.519 like a lot of that carried over It wasn't just 00:13:52.519 --> 00:13:55.279 I had the experience and then okay that was over 00:13:55.279 --> 00:13:59.259 It almost sounds like this really was with you 00:13:59.259 --> 00:14:03.139 changed you became part of you I want you in 00:14:03.139 --> 00:14:06.460 just a minute to tell me how long it was between 00:14:06.460 --> 00:14:09.769 that and your second near -death experience but 00:14:09.769 --> 00:14:12.970 also fill in how had your life changed during 00:14:12.970 --> 00:14:17.149 that time? My intuition, I gained a lot of intuition. 00:14:17.289 --> 00:14:20.190 I could see what was happening. I could see people, 00:14:20.190 --> 00:14:22.330 it's like, oh, that person is going to get into 00:14:22.330 --> 00:14:25.850 an argument with their spouse or so and so they're 00:14:25.850 --> 00:14:28.529 going to get a job promotion or whatever. I could 00:14:28.529 --> 00:14:31.350 just like kind of see the future. I would say 00:14:31.350 --> 00:14:34.149 it was like psychic abilities, the normal psychic 00:14:34.149 --> 00:14:36.710 abilities. And again, we can explain the details 00:14:36.710 --> 00:14:41.070 later, but this was more just knowing how timeframes 00:14:41.070 --> 00:14:44.429 worked or time functions worked. I used it to 00:14:44.429 --> 00:14:47.470 create a massive, very successful internet business 00:14:47.470 --> 00:14:50.169 back in the day when I was younger. Yeah, it 00:14:50.169 --> 00:14:53.090 was beautiful. It was fantastic. All right. Well, 00:14:53.090 --> 00:14:55.230 let's go ahead and jump to experience number 00:14:55.230 --> 00:14:58.820 two. Towards experience number two, again, just 00:14:58.820 --> 00:15:01.740 as it set the stage, I wasn't happy with my life 00:15:01.740 --> 00:15:04.720 because I always wanted to go back. Once you 00:15:04.720 --> 00:15:08.480 go and see that realm, you always go, gosh, that 00:15:08.480 --> 00:15:10.759 realm is so great. It's like a vacation spot 00:15:10.759 --> 00:15:13.639 that is so beautiful. It's like, gosh, I'm really 00:15:13.639 --> 00:15:16.279 myself at that level. You know, you have kids, 00:15:16.340 --> 00:15:18.759 you get a wife, you get a job, and it sounds 00:15:18.759 --> 00:15:21.279 great on the outside. And this is what I help 00:15:21.279 --> 00:15:23.500 with people nowadays. It sounds really great 00:15:23.500 --> 00:15:26.019 on the outside, highly successful. on the outside, 00:15:26.220 --> 00:15:28.639 but inside just like tormented. It's like, gosh, 00:15:28.860 --> 00:15:31.879 I'm losing more of myself becoming successful. 00:15:32.059 --> 00:15:34.779 I'm losing more of my identity. I feel so hollow. 00:15:35.220 --> 00:15:37.039 So things have to break down. And I think that's 00:15:37.039 --> 00:15:39.500 where I had a second near death experience. I 00:15:39.500 --> 00:15:42.240 just really wanted to understand. I was like, 00:15:42.259 --> 00:15:45.580 why can't I have or why can't I be that person 00:15:45.580 --> 00:15:48.980 that I experienced in that near death in physical 00:15:48.980 --> 00:15:51.379 form? Why do I have to like suffer? Why do I 00:15:51.379 --> 00:15:53.759 have to get diseased? I was sick. I was ill. 00:15:53.919 --> 00:15:58.139 I was aging. profusely for a 44 year old. Well, 00:15:58.399 --> 00:16:03.100 welcome to planet Earth, Moss. Yeah, crazy. I 00:16:03.100 --> 00:16:06.500 wish I could say there was a way that we could 00:16:06.500 --> 00:16:10.299 live here like what it's like there. As much 00:16:10.299 --> 00:16:12.419 as we try, let's face it, it's not the same. 00:16:12.559 --> 00:16:15.700 It's not the same, but the second near death, 00:16:15.919 --> 00:16:18.700 it was a drowning accident. We were in Belize. 00:16:18.840 --> 00:16:21.080 We were on a rafting trip. You know, you get 00:16:21.080 --> 00:16:22.820 off the ship, you were on a cruise, you get off 00:16:22.820 --> 00:16:25.179 a ship and you go on a rafting trip. We had, 00:16:25.179 --> 00:16:27.700 what, three kids at the time? Four kids at the 00:16:27.700 --> 00:16:30.299 time, but the one was too small to go on the 00:16:30.299 --> 00:16:33.580 trip. So three kids at the time, and the wife 00:16:33.580 --> 00:16:37.860 at the time. And it was interesting where, say, 00:16:38.279 --> 00:16:42.289 the reality or the jungle, really knows what's 00:16:42.289 --> 00:16:46.450 going on. As we got on, it was windy, there was 00:16:46.450 --> 00:16:49.769 birds or animal noises in the jungle. As soon 00:16:49.769 --> 00:16:54.669 as we got on, it got dead silence. It was like 00:16:54.669 --> 00:16:57.149 a movie set. It was like everything, just no 00:16:57.149 --> 00:17:00.110 wind, nothing. It just quieted down. I'm going, 00:17:00.230 --> 00:17:05.130 wow, why is it so quiet? Everything was predetermined 00:17:05.130 --> 00:17:07.089 for me. They had life jackets for everybody. 00:17:07.130 --> 00:17:08.769 It was a big group. They had life jackets for 00:17:08.769 --> 00:17:10.630 everybody except for me. So I said, well, I'm 00:17:10.630 --> 00:17:12.789 a strong swimmer. You know, I was in high school 00:17:12.789 --> 00:17:14.589 swimming and all that. I'll be okay. I've got 00:17:14.589 --> 00:17:18.170 an inner tube, right? Again, preset, pre -staged. 00:17:18.670 --> 00:17:21.009 And as soon as we got into the river, which was 00:17:21.009 --> 00:17:22.970 flowing really fast, it says, okay, like you 00:17:22.970 --> 00:17:24.910 got to stay connected. Otherwise you might go 00:17:24.910 --> 00:17:27.930 into other tributaries. Well, that's what happened. 00:17:28.430 --> 00:17:33.069 Somehow I let go. of the group and my son and 00:17:33.069 --> 00:17:36.269 I, we went the other way and we got stuck into 00:17:36.269 --> 00:17:38.390 a cenotes. Basically I got sucked out of the 00:17:38.390 --> 00:17:40.950 inner tube and I got pulled into say the depths 00:17:40.950 --> 00:17:43.869 of the river. Probably back then it was probably 00:17:43.869 --> 00:17:46.329 a lava tube. Now it's filled with, you know, 00:17:46.410 --> 00:17:49.450 water. So like a whirlpool kind of thing sucking 00:17:49.450 --> 00:17:52.289 you down? Yeah, it was like a, imagine a, you 00:17:52.289 --> 00:17:56.009 know, big rock sticking out with a hole. Yeah. 00:17:56.210 --> 00:17:59.759 Manhole size. And I just got pulled in. And I'm 00:17:59.759 --> 00:18:01.880 trying to climb back up and I'm going, oh my 00:18:01.880 --> 00:18:04.220 God, you know, and the power, the force of the 00:18:04.220 --> 00:18:07.720 power, water going in is too much. And that's 00:18:07.720 --> 00:18:09.420 where, you know, you say goodbye to your loved 00:18:09.420 --> 00:18:12.180 ones. You know, it's like, damn, I'm just 44. 00:18:12.299 --> 00:18:14.240 I just started life. It was like, well, you know, 00:18:14.339 --> 00:18:17.960 why? And I couldn't hold my breath any longer. 00:18:18.599 --> 00:18:20.819 And I just let go. It's like, okay, I guess this 00:18:20.819 --> 00:18:23.480 is the way it is. This is where it became really 00:18:23.480 --> 00:18:26.329 familiar. It's like, oh. here I go again and 00:18:26.329 --> 00:18:28.970 I was like really super excited because I got 00:18:28.970 --> 00:18:32.890 to go back to that brilliance and it's like but 00:18:32.890 --> 00:18:37.569 this time what was amazing is that I saw my body 00:18:37.569 --> 00:18:41.279 like go down you know into you know the darkness 00:18:41.279 --> 00:18:45.079 and then I myself transcended you know through 00:18:45.079 --> 00:18:47.500 the water and I could still feel the coolness 00:18:47.500 --> 00:18:51.680 but the expansion of the water and then I just 00:18:51.680 --> 00:18:54.519 transcended and you know that how they say you 00:18:54.519 --> 00:18:56.900 go through the tunnel of light I wouldn't pass 00:18:56.900 --> 00:18:59.299 through the tunnel of light so there's about 00:18:59.299 --> 00:19:02.880 13 14 layers basically a cleansing process for 00:19:02.880 --> 00:19:05.980 the spirit I would say you get a 13th layer and 00:19:05.980 --> 00:19:08.490 you graduate and If you graduate, you're not 00:19:08.490 --> 00:19:11.250 supposed to come back. But somehow I sneaked 00:19:11.250 --> 00:19:15.549 past the curtains. And this is where I got downloaded 00:19:15.549 --> 00:19:19.230 on how this reality works, the logistics or the 00:19:19.230 --> 00:19:21.829 physics of this reality. This is where I saw 00:19:21.829 --> 00:19:25.589 all possibilities of what is, all things happening 00:19:25.589 --> 00:19:27.829 at once. Like Einstein always says, everything 00:19:27.829 --> 00:19:31.410 happens at once, if it wasn't for time and space. 00:19:32.069 --> 00:19:34.599 That's true. Everything I saw my past, I saw 00:19:34.599 --> 00:19:37.759 my future, I saw everybody else's. It's literally 00:19:37.759 --> 00:19:41.559 a huge database of possibilities out there all 00:19:41.559 --> 00:19:44.240 just floating around. If you focus on something, 00:19:44.759 --> 00:19:48.660 you get to experience it. The amount of love 00:19:48.660 --> 00:19:52.589 or grace. that is up there. It's just quite amazing. 00:19:52.750 --> 00:19:55.490 It's just so beautiful. And again, it's not denoted 00:19:55.490 --> 00:19:58.130 to a religion or, you know, a God, it's just 00:19:58.130 --> 00:20:01.230 like you. It's a, it's a, it's a universe of 00:20:01.230 --> 00:20:04.410 who you are. And then also, you know, an awareness 00:20:04.410 --> 00:20:06.730 that there's a higher intelligence that created 00:20:06.730 --> 00:20:10.089 this space as well. And I go, dang, it's so beautiful. 00:20:10.690 --> 00:20:14.809 And there's this beautiful blue that always sticks 00:20:14.809 --> 00:20:19.509 with me. So in that case, I don't know how I 00:20:19.509 --> 00:20:22.789 got out of the hole, but it's like when it was 00:20:22.789 --> 00:20:26.349 my time to come back. It's like some of the God's 00:20:26.349 --> 00:20:29.309 hands, so to speak, like pulled me out, put me 00:20:29.309 --> 00:20:33.390 on the side of the river and woke me up. I was 00:20:33.390 --> 00:20:35.690 looking, my hands were bloody, my back was bloody, 00:20:36.170 --> 00:20:38.650 but I wasn't drowning. I didn't need to get resuscitated. 00:20:38.769 --> 00:20:41.309 I'm just like, how did I get back here? And I 00:20:41.309 --> 00:20:43.130 could still see the inner tube getting sucked 00:20:43.130 --> 00:20:45.990 into the hole. It was too big for it. And I'm 00:20:45.990 --> 00:20:49.720 going, wow, this is amazing. is beautiful, that 00:20:49.720 --> 00:20:52.339 resonance was still there with me. But from that 00:20:52.339 --> 00:20:55.160 second near death, this is where I got the logistics 00:20:55.160 --> 00:20:58.140 and what my abilities are today of helping people, 00:20:58.279 --> 00:21:01.359 shifting people, where you can edit people. It 00:21:01.359 --> 00:21:03.440 doesn't take 20 years of therapy or anything 00:21:03.440 --> 00:21:06.220 like that. People will literally radically transform 00:21:06.220 --> 00:21:09.079 with the work that I do, just like I did. By 00:21:09.079 --> 00:21:12.160 the way, was your son okay? Yeah, I had pushed 00:21:12.160 --> 00:21:15.220 them aside. I pushed them out of the way and 00:21:15.220 --> 00:21:19.160 then I got sucked in. They went past the hole. 00:21:19.900 --> 00:21:22.880 Explain that blue to me a little bit more. Blue? 00:21:23.319 --> 00:21:26.099 It's that ocean blue. It's interesting. You know 00:21:26.099 --> 00:21:29.420 that deep ocean blue? That purplish blue that 00:21:29.420 --> 00:21:32.240 you see in the deep ocean? Everything was like 00:21:32.240 --> 00:21:34.720 that. I mean literally everything. It's just 00:21:34.720 --> 00:21:37.380 like imagine you're like sitting on the edge 00:21:37.380 --> 00:21:39.769 of the universe. And you're just looking out 00:21:39.769 --> 00:21:42.869 into the stars. There's no time, there's no space 00:21:42.869 --> 00:21:45.089 at that level. And you're just sitting on the 00:21:45.089 --> 00:21:48.369 edge of time and space, literally looking towards 00:21:48.369 --> 00:21:51.789 say time and space or this reality or this universe. 00:21:52.309 --> 00:21:54.910 And you could see, you could start to see or 00:21:54.910 --> 00:21:57.970 understand the principles on how things get created. 00:21:57.990 --> 00:22:01.230 And it's just a beautiful space that's just so 00:22:01.230 --> 00:22:05.349 expansive that holds everything. So it was much 00:22:05.349 --> 00:22:08.630 more than just the water you were seeing. the 00:22:08.630 --> 00:22:11.970 expanse of space. You were seeing sort of an 00:22:11.970 --> 00:22:15.470 everything. Yeah, you literally sitting on edge 00:22:15.470 --> 00:22:18.410 and seeing the universe. So you weren't in space, 00:22:18.529 --> 00:22:21.609 you were literally outside of space looking at 00:22:21.609 --> 00:22:24.910 the universe. Yeah. So you mentioned you felt 00:22:24.910 --> 00:22:29.029 like this was all pre -staged. So I've got to 00:22:29.029 --> 00:22:34.730 ask pre -staged by who or by what or why? That's 00:22:34.730 --> 00:22:37.309 a great question. Maybe a higher power, maybe 00:22:37.309 --> 00:22:40.150 my higher self really wanting to say, embody 00:22:40.150 --> 00:22:43.950 what our potential is really about. So this is 00:22:43.950 --> 00:22:46.289 how we create ourselves, right? You know, we 00:22:46.289 --> 00:22:50.089 have a program and then that program runs and 00:22:50.089 --> 00:22:52.849 that's what we call our life. So for me, I think 00:22:52.849 --> 00:22:55.930 I was here to really understand what life is 00:22:55.930 --> 00:22:58.789 about at a very, very deep level and help others 00:22:58.789 --> 00:23:02.349 that way as well. So these near -death experiences, 00:23:02.809 --> 00:23:05.490 my third one, I think helped me realize that 00:23:05.490 --> 00:23:08.430 if you think of it as an apprentice level, apprentice 00:23:08.430 --> 00:23:11.250 level, you start to understand, say, your trade, 00:23:12.069 --> 00:23:14.029 if that makes sense for you. You start to understand 00:23:14.029 --> 00:23:16.549 the concepts that we are more than just physical 00:23:16.549 --> 00:23:18.630 beings, because I was a computer programmer. 00:23:19.230 --> 00:23:22.029 Just basic logic, or basic science, and that's 00:23:22.029 --> 00:23:24.470 what society today is. It's just like, if we 00:23:24.470 --> 00:23:27.839 can't measure it, it doesn't exist. But that 00:23:27.839 --> 00:23:29.720 proved to me as like, wait a second, there's 00:23:29.720 --> 00:23:31.900 a lot of things that we can't measure that exists 00:23:31.900 --> 00:23:35.880 that create this reality. So that was the apprentice 00:23:35.880 --> 00:23:38.539 stage. And then the second near death was the 00:23:38.539 --> 00:23:41.380 journeyman stage, where literally I started to 00:23:41.380 --> 00:23:43.779 learn on say the mechanics or the programming 00:23:43.779 --> 00:23:47.490 on how humans render themselves. And this is 00:23:47.490 --> 00:23:49.269 where I can help people with, you know, if they're 00:23:49.269 --> 00:23:52.009 diseased, I don't claim to be a doctor, but people 00:23:52.009 --> 00:23:53.789 who have cured themselves of the most amazing 00:23:53.789 --> 00:23:56.130 diseases or they've become wealthier or they 00:23:56.130 --> 00:23:59.049 become, you know, more congruent with their relationships 00:23:59.049 --> 00:24:01.349 and so on like that. So how do you change that? 00:24:01.490 --> 00:24:04.329 Literally, it's a program. The second one really 00:24:04.329 --> 00:24:07.829 allowed me to say, understand my craft on what 00:24:07.829 --> 00:24:12.170 I do. And then the third near death was more, 00:24:12.730 --> 00:24:16.289 I died in Peru. probably the altitude, probably 00:24:16.289 --> 00:24:18.569 COVID, it was around COVID time, probably about 00:24:18.569 --> 00:24:20.670 three, four years ago actually. And that really 00:24:20.670 --> 00:24:24.549 allowed me to close everything up or become mastery 00:24:24.549 --> 00:24:27.549 level, I would say. Maybe I had COVID at the 00:24:27.549 --> 00:24:31.089 time, but basically every aspect of me slowed 00:24:31.089 --> 00:24:34.890 down. So I didn't have enough minerals to sustain 00:24:34.890 --> 00:24:39.809 life and I just went out again, died. And they 00:24:39.809 --> 00:24:43.190 measured my brain and it was just mush. And then 00:24:43.190 --> 00:24:46.029 20 minutes later, they measured the brain scan 00:24:46.029 --> 00:24:48.289 again, because at high altitudes, they thought 00:24:48.289 --> 00:24:51.490 something had ruptured in my brain. Embolism? 00:24:52.289 --> 00:24:54.849 Yeah, embolisms, yeah. And then 20 minutes later, 00:24:55.289 --> 00:24:57.289 they measured my brain again, and it was like 00:24:57.289 --> 00:25:00.289 of a pristine. And I was like, what, 60 at the 00:25:00.289 --> 00:25:03.809 time? And my brain looked like a perfect walnut 00:25:03.809 --> 00:25:06.839 shape, like a 25 -year -old brain. something 00:25:06.839 --> 00:25:10.099 radically say shifted and transformed. So the 00:25:10.099 --> 00:25:12.740 third near death was literally embodying say 00:25:12.740 --> 00:25:16.500 youth and vitality of a younger version of myself. 00:25:17.299 --> 00:25:19.940 Let's talk about some of the takeaways because 00:25:19.940 --> 00:25:23.259 I don't think NDEs are just for a, you know, 00:25:23.259 --> 00:25:25.440 like going to Disneyland, they're just a ride 00:25:25.440 --> 00:25:30.920 for woohoo kind of thing. They are to teach things, 00:25:30.920 --> 00:25:33.700 especially to the person that experiences it. 00:25:33.700 --> 00:25:36.559 And some people can share it with others. And 00:25:36.559 --> 00:25:38.680 so we've got a lot more to get into here, but 00:25:38.680 --> 00:25:42.420 I was curious, you used the term download. Is 00:25:42.420 --> 00:25:45.400 that basically how you learned? Is a lot of information 00:25:45.400 --> 00:25:47.980 felt like it was downloaded to you at a time? 00:25:48.799 --> 00:25:52.819 Yes. Or, you know, you let go of your identity 00:25:52.819 --> 00:25:57.119 of who you are, a physical body, so you remember 00:25:57.119 --> 00:26:00.400 or you reclaim the original identity of who you 00:26:00.400 --> 00:26:06.200 are. Okay. How does... quantum physics or mechanics 00:26:06.200 --> 00:26:10.140 relate to all of this and frequency? Time and 00:26:10.140 --> 00:26:13.819 space, say you're an infinite being, I call it 00:26:13.819 --> 00:26:16.359 a timeless self, a consciousness and intelligence 00:26:16.359 --> 00:26:19.319 that renders our physical body here. So quantum 00:26:19.319 --> 00:26:21.900 mechanics are really getting into that and I 00:26:21.900 --> 00:26:24.539 work with quantum computers and AI and so on 00:26:24.539 --> 00:26:27.700 to really create, say, coherence in them. So 00:26:27.700 --> 00:26:31.420 in that sense, the quantum realm out there, Things 00:26:31.420 --> 00:26:34.859 that affect say particles here, that's how it 00:26:34.859 --> 00:26:37.660 gets involved. There is a consciousness layer 00:26:37.660 --> 00:26:41.680 that goes say beyond say the fabric of space 00:26:41.680 --> 00:26:45.880 and time that create physical form here. And 00:26:45.880 --> 00:26:48.839 that's the reality that I exist in today. So 00:26:48.839 --> 00:26:51.759 imagine that your thoughts, your thoughts, right? 00:26:51.759 --> 00:26:54.839 It doesn't render anything, but then you manifest 00:26:54.839 --> 00:26:57.660 it into say a physical manifestation, like an 00:26:57.660 --> 00:26:59.920 invention or something like that. It's somewhat. 00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:03.240 very similar to that, but at a higher level. 00:27:03.839 --> 00:27:06.940 So imagine an intelligence, that intelligence 00:27:06.940 --> 00:27:09.680 thought some people might call your spirit rendering 00:27:09.680 --> 00:27:13.359 itself in physical form here. So that connection, 00:27:13.779 --> 00:27:17.019 that bridge layer is say what I work at today, 00:27:17.420 --> 00:27:20.440 understanding that bridge layer. So it's almost 00:27:20.440 --> 00:27:24.279 like things are created, you use the term spirit, 00:27:24.680 --> 00:27:27.480 things are created spiritually or some other 00:27:27.480 --> 00:27:31.440 way than physically. Yes, it's always like that. 00:27:31.920 --> 00:27:34.839 Again, anything invented here or created came 00:27:34.839 --> 00:27:38.000 from, say, a form, right, or a thought form. 00:27:38.339 --> 00:27:40.279 But then where did that thought form come from? 00:27:40.839 --> 00:27:42.519 And, you know, I could explain how like Tesla, 00:27:43.000 --> 00:27:46.059 Tesla, for example, Nikola Tesla, according to 00:27:46.059 --> 00:27:50.319 his own writings, he basically zoned out, so 00:27:50.319 --> 00:27:53.240 to speak, kind of a, say, a near death or even 00:27:53.240 --> 00:27:55.980 psychedelics. help you disconnect from your physical 00:27:55.980 --> 00:27:59.140 form. He escapes into a higher realm where those 00:27:59.140 --> 00:28:02.700 inventions already exist. And then he understands 00:28:02.700 --> 00:28:05.140 them at that level. And then he has the ability 00:28:05.140 --> 00:28:08.240 to bring that, say, consciousness or that intelligence 00:28:08.240 --> 00:28:11.900 into this dimension of time and space. Hence, 00:28:12.160 --> 00:28:14.839 he was ahead of his time, decades ahead of his 00:28:14.839 --> 00:28:18.279 time. People like Anita Mirjani, who had a near 00:28:18.279 --> 00:28:21.000 -death experience. She didn't really heal herself, 00:28:21.019 --> 00:28:24.220 so to speak. What she did was literally, you've 00:28:24.220 --> 00:28:26.920 heard of Anita Marjani, right? Yeah, I've met 00:28:26.920 --> 00:28:31.000 Anita at some ions events. Beautiful. Yeah, I'm 00:28:31.000 --> 00:28:33.880 part of ions too. So Anita, for example, how 00:28:33.880 --> 00:28:37.440 did she heal herself? So what she did was there 00:28:37.440 --> 00:28:40.359 is a version of herself, you know, that was say 00:28:40.359 --> 00:28:43.440 cancerous, right? This version of Anita had cancer. 00:28:43.799 --> 00:28:47.690 Now, in quantum physics, it dictates You know 00:28:47.690 --> 00:28:50.049 that there are million of possibilities of who 00:28:50.049 --> 00:28:52.890 you are. So what Anita did was literally through 00:28:52.890 --> 00:28:56.390 her near -death experience She escaped this physical 00:28:56.390 --> 00:28:59.789 realm disconnected and then when she landed back 00:28:59.789 --> 00:29:03.150 for some reason She landed into another realm 00:29:03.150 --> 00:29:06.029 where Anita didn't have cancer. So that's why 00:29:06.029 --> 00:29:09.190 I say she didn't really heal herself. She just 00:29:09.190 --> 00:29:11.890 repositioned herself in another safe frame of 00:29:11.900 --> 00:29:14.599 another dimension of time and space. And when 00:29:14.599 --> 00:29:17.119 you do that, this is where those miraculous healings 00:29:17.119 --> 00:29:19.619 happen, where doctors still document, it's like, 00:29:19.960 --> 00:29:22.339 how did that happen? How did that tumor just 00:29:22.339 --> 00:29:25.180 disappear? It's physically impossible for something 00:29:25.180 --> 00:29:28.740 to re -render itself in another form. But that's 00:29:28.740 --> 00:29:32.019 how Anita and many other, say, miraculous cases 00:29:32.019 --> 00:29:35.839 of healing or transformation happen. That's very 00:29:35.839 --> 00:29:39.400 difficult to understand, I have to admit. Especially 00:29:39.400 --> 00:29:42.460 if there's some sort of parallel dimension. What 00:29:42.460 --> 00:29:44.599 happens with the other one where she was still 00:29:44.599 --> 00:29:47.839 sick? Or is that one just gone and replaced with 00:29:47.839 --> 00:29:50.579 this new one? Really good question. So think 00:29:50.579 --> 00:29:55.079 of this like here, and let's just use colors. 00:29:55.440 --> 00:29:58.700 In this version of who you are, you're shining 00:29:58.700 --> 00:30:01.599 your light, so to speak. You're paying attention 00:30:01.599 --> 00:30:04.880 or your focus onto this version, which in this 00:30:04.880 --> 00:30:08.559 case is say, cancerous or ill or say imprisoned, 00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:12.819 so to speak. So in this case, this act, imagine 00:30:12.819 --> 00:30:16.140 stages of life. Okay. There's millions of different 00:30:16.140 --> 00:30:19.740 stages that you could be in. So each stage is 00:30:19.740 --> 00:30:22.619 available for you, but it doesn't mean like Miss 00:30:22.619 --> 00:30:25.819 Quantum Theorists think that You're rendering 00:30:25.819 --> 00:30:28.059 another life here. There's millions of you doing 00:30:28.059 --> 00:30:30.819 all these things. No, these are millions of possibilities 00:30:30.819 --> 00:30:33.720 or millions of stages that you can render yourself 00:30:33.720 --> 00:30:37.619 in. It just depends on the actor and which stage 00:30:37.619 --> 00:30:40.839 they choose. So yes, so this version is like, 00:30:40.839 --> 00:30:42.940 she's basically going, well, I'm not going to 00:30:42.940 --> 00:30:45.859 play that version anymore. I want to play this 00:30:45.859 --> 00:30:49.759 version of Anita. So this stage, basically there's 00:30:49.759 --> 00:30:52.680 no light cast upon her. So it just sits there 00:30:52.680 --> 00:30:55.740 as a possibility. And in other words, there are 00:30:55.740 --> 00:30:58.039 millions of different possibilities of who you 00:30:58.039 --> 00:31:01.359 could be. You're just casting your light or putting 00:31:01.359 --> 00:31:04.400 your intention, and that's what creates a motion 00:31:04.400 --> 00:31:08.160 or life here. So what I'm saying is like, well, 00:31:08.339 --> 00:31:12.799 we can disconnect from that, observe another 00:31:12.799 --> 00:31:15.700 possibility, and then cast our light or play 00:31:15.700 --> 00:31:19.500 the actor in another stage. It's a crazy concept, 00:31:19.539 --> 00:31:25.000 but - It is, and it's something that Sounds like 00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:27.079 it should be innate, but most of us don't know 00:31:27.079 --> 00:31:29.339 how to do that. So do you have any practical 00:31:29.339 --> 00:31:32.539 advice on how to do it? Absolutely. I call it 00:31:32.539 --> 00:31:35.720 spatial referencing and, you know, I've got programs 00:31:35.720 --> 00:31:38.299 and meditations. I call them hypermeditations. 00:31:38.940 --> 00:31:40.900 And by the way, we'll put a link to your website 00:31:40.900 --> 00:31:43.079 in the show notes so everybody can look this 00:31:43.079 --> 00:31:46.680 stuff up. Okay, go ahead. Yeah, but spatial referencing 00:31:46.680 --> 00:31:50.680 is really important. So a lot of people, they 00:31:50.680 --> 00:31:54.319 are creating themselves through like four ingredients, 00:31:55.099 --> 00:31:57.240 which is, you know, genetic patterns, you know, 00:31:57.319 --> 00:31:59.359 mom, dad, and, you know, and so on like that. 00:31:59.720 --> 00:32:01.940 Generational patterns, you know, the time frame 00:32:01.940 --> 00:32:04.799 that you're born, like Baby Boomers, Next Gen, 00:32:04.920 --> 00:32:08.740 you know, Generation Z and all that. So you're 00:32:08.740 --> 00:32:12.440 encoded with that, say, type. Societal patterns. 00:32:12.829 --> 00:32:15.470 Right the time frame that you're born in really 00:32:15.470 --> 00:32:18.309 dictates on how you render or how you see yourself 00:32:18.309 --> 00:32:21.130 and then life Experiences including some maybe 00:32:21.130 --> 00:32:24.210 past life experiences that you've had So so so 00:32:24.210 --> 00:32:27.670 those four ingredients create say an image or 00:32:27.670 --> 00:32:30.009 who you think you are, but that's not really 00:32:30.009 --> 00:32:33.009 true It's just an experience of say your parents 00:32:33.009 --> 00:32:36.490 having and there's more and more data coming 00:32:36.490 --> 00:32:39.910 out on say parents who've been in war or been 00:32:39.910 --> 00:32:42.759 in famine like four or five generations down, 00:32:43.180 --> 00:32:46.779 that child is still eliciting memories of being 00:32:46.779 --> 00:32:50.259 in famine. They have symptoms of like being in 00:32:50.259 --> 00:32:52.079 famish, although they've got plenty of food. 00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:54.779 So those concepts of self, those aren't really 00:32:54.779 --> 00:32:57.160 you. So when you start to spatial reference, 00:32:57.299 --> 00:32:59.859 you start to become an observer. And I know it 00:32:59.859 --> 00:33:02.140 sounds crazy, but there's so many people that 00:33:02.140 --> 00:33:04.500 have gotten off their psychotic medication, just 00:33:04.500 --> 00:33:06.960 doing spatial referencing. And what that is is 00:33:06.960 --> 00:33:09.640 like, you start to observe what reality you're 00:33:09.640 --> 00:33:11.670 creating yourself in. And all you have to do 00:33:11.670 --> 00:33:14.009 is like, for example, there's an image, there's 00:33:14.009 --> 00:33:16.789 a picture over there. Imagine, not to imagine, 00:33:16.910 --> 00:33:19.109 but notice the picture and notice a point on 00:33:19.109 --> 00:33:22.410 your body, like your chin or your collarbone. 00:33:22.690 --> 00:33:25.390 Notice sounds coming around from you. Notice 00:33:25.390 --> 00:33:27.589 the direction of the sound and then a point on 00:33:27.589 --> 00:33:31.750 your body. Notice scents around you. Notice the, 00:33:31.750 --> 00:33:33.950 again, the direction and then a point on your 00:33:33.950 --> 00:33:37.660 body. It's like triangulation. So you use your 00:33:37.660 --> 00:33:41.839 five senses to like hone in to know exactly what 00:33:41.839 --> 00:33:44.119 dimension of time and space you're in. It sounds 00:33:44.119 --> 00:33:48.480 crazy, but people feel really, especially people 00:33:48.480 --> 00:33:51.940 who have ADD anxiety and so on. Once they stabilize, 00:33:52.039 --> 00:33:54.819 once they use spatial referencing, they literally 00:33:54.819 --> 00:33:57.960 start to go, gosh, I'm really calm. Because that's 00:33:57.960 --> 00:34:00.940 what most people don't understand that it's not 00:34:00.940 --> 00:34:03.559 their mindset. like Tony Robbins and all those 00:34:03.559 --> 00:34:06.259 fantastic people teach that dictate how your 00:34:06.259 --> 00:34:09.139 life runs. It literally is the dimension of time 00:34:09.139 --> 00:34:11.539 and space that you're rendering yourself through 00:34:11.539 --> 00:34:14.840 that creates, say, the quality. If you just did 00:34:14.840 --> 00:34:17.719 that, the object first and then a point on your 00:34:17.719 --> 00:34:20.139 body. Just do that throughout the day. You'll 00:34:20.139 --> 00:34:23.260 see how centered you become. You become the observer 00:34:23.260 --> 00:34:26.980 of how you're running life. All right. Good place 00:34:26.980 --> 00:34:30.159 to start. Before I let you go. I'm going to give 00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:33.659 you the last word and I'm going to ask you to 00:34:33.659 --> 00:34:38.139 do something difficult for me. That is, you mentioned 00:34:38.139 --> 00:34:42.079 a couple of times the love that you felt during 00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:44.440 these NDEs. You also said you couldn't explain 00:34:44.440 --> 00:34:47.260 it really, but I'm going to ask you to try again. 00:34:47.739 --> 00:34:50.719 Try to dig deep into your adjectives and see 00:34:50.719 --> 00:34:52.820 if there's any way that you can explain it so 00:34:52.820 --> 00:34:56.800 that we can really feel it. Okay. Maybe I can 00:34:56.800 --> 00:34:59.960 help generate this, if you don't mind. If you 00:34:59.960 --> 00:35:02.159 could just take a couple of minutes and maybe 00:35:02.159 --> 00:35:04.900 I could pull you into that experience. Is that 00:35:04.900 --> 00:35:09.000 okay with you? Yes, please. Okay. So take your 00:35:09.000 --> 00:35:12.340 breath in. And this is your audience, even if 00:35:12.340 --> 00:35:14.300 this is on a recording, I'm sure you'll feel 00:35:14.300 --> 00:35:22.940 it. Another breath in. Okay. Most love. is objective. 00:35:23.360 --> 00:35:26.440 It's most love is seen from an external point 00:35:26.440 --> 00:35:32.960 directing towards you. Okay, so breathe in. Let 00:35:32.960 --> 00:35:39.480 me help you expand. The love I felt was not a 00:35:39.480 --> 00:35:42.679 source outside of me, but after you remove those 00:35:42.679 --> 00:35:47.079 filters, you start to experience the love flowing 00:35:47.079 --> 00:35:51.210 from you. And that's the difference. once it 00:35:51.210 --> 00:35:54.829 starts to flow from you, you know that it's never 00:35:54.829 --> 00:35:57.809 ending. You know that there's no consequences. 00:35:58.369 --> 00:36:00.670 It's not like if you did something wrong, it 00:36:00.670 --> 00:36:04.389 shuts off because the source is you. So it flows 00:36:04.389 --> 00:36:06.949 through you and that's what you resonate or you 00:36:06.949 --> 00:36:11.730 emanate with. Breathe in again. And once you 00:36:11.730 --> 00:36:15.809 feel that love, this is where you know that you're 00:36:15.809 --> 00:36:19.429 guided. You know that there is a higher presence 00:36:19.550 --> 00:36:21.929 your higher self, however you want to define 00:36:21.929 --> 00:36:26.610 it, doesn't matter, is got your back. And as 00:36:26.610 --> 00:36:30.550 you understand that you're secure, this is where 00:36:30.550 --> 00:36:36.550 you can start to live life in the most expansive 00:36:36.550 --> 00:36:39.849 way. And this is how it just doesn't help heal 00:36:39.849 --> 00:36:42.750 you and help you become better, but it also helps 00:36:42.750 --> 00:36:46.530 you understand who you are at such a deep level 00:36:46.530 --> 00:36:50.019 that that presence allows you to expand into 00:36:50.019 --> 00:36:52.820 other people, the loved ones around you in society 00:36:52.820 --> 00:36:55.699 as a whole. And this is where Earth can change 00:36:55.699 --> 00:36:59.079 dramatically. This is where our leaders, being 00:36:59.079 --> 00:37:02.320 in that state, can radically change without corruption 00:37:02.320 --> 00:37:05.880 or distortion or abuse or control. That's what's 00:37:05.880 --> 00:37:08.440 really, really important. I don't know if you 00:37:08.440 --> 00:37:13.000 felt anything, but... I feel very calm and peaceful. 00:37:13.980 --> 00:37:16.699 Yeah. So if you perpetuated that, that's just 00:37:16.699 --> 00:37:18.949 the initiation. All right. What if you could 00:37:18.949 --> 00:37:21.889 just stay in that presence of yourself, not me, 00:37:21.969 --> 00:37:23.909 but of yourself, cause it's your higher self 00:37:23.909 --> 00:37:26.710 I helped invite in and the people listening. 00:37:27.210 --> 00:37:29.230 What if you could stay in that in 20, you know, 00:37:29.289 --> 00:37:31.869 24 seven, what kind of life would that happen 00:37:31.869 --> 00:37:34.369 to you where you just had that calm and peace 00:37:34.369 --> 00:37:37.309 knowing that you're happy and you're safe and 00:37:37.309 --> 00:37:41.190 you know, you're loved at a deep level. I can 00:37:41.190 --> 00:37:44.130 deal with that. Yeah. It's beautiful space, isn't 00:37:44.130 --> 00:37:47.309 it? Yeah. Thanks a lot, Mas. I appreciate it. 00:37:47.449 --> 00:37:51.130 You're so welcome. Thank you. Thanks again for 00:37:51.130 --> 00:37:53.730 listening and sharing this podcast. 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