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Welcome, welcome to Round Trip Death everybody
and we have a fun guest coming to us today. All
the way from Northern California, Trent John
Miller. How are you Trent? Good morning Noah,
I'm doing great, thank you. I appreciate you
being on the show. You've had an amazing experience
that people are going to love hearing about.
Before we jump into it, let's let people get
to know who you are. So give us a couple of minutes
on your background. Okay, awesome. Kind of a
mid -rostering transplant. I enjoyed being outdoors,
hanging out with my friends. I was very athletic,
involved in swimming, lifeguard, all that. A
swimming instructor. I at one point in my life
got involved in the film industry and that's
an interesting story in itself and I'll be sure
to bring that up. But all in all, I'm just a
fun -loving guy and now California good and that's
about it. You're being very modest. 30 plus years
in the film industry you've been in front of
the camera a lot. Your IMDB looks pretty cool
and that's another time for a whole other podcast
though. Give me an idea, how long ago was it
that your NDE happened and what led up to it?
It was about 20 years ago, almost exactly really,
2000. I had some interesting premonitions right
prior to the accident itself. One thing was waking
up from a dream, a very clear dream of running
into a white wall. And I remember waking up and
saying, I'm going to live. And I knew I was going
to live. but I realized that my DNA was scrambled
and that I was going to be somewhat of a different
person. That later came into fruition and there
are other things, premonitions that I had when
I was younger and things that as I led up to
the actual accident, they now make sense. Why
do you think you had a premonition? Did it somehow
help you through the experience? Yeah, in a way
it kind of in reverse it helped explain what
I was experiencing and why I was going through
some of the unusual steps in the process after
a near -death experience. There were even times
where I was living my life in reverse where I
had already been provided insight into my future
with clarity and then being able to relive it
in the physical world. that people distinguish
as maybe daydreaming or dreams, premonitions.
In a lot of cases, sometimes there's more behind
those than just a possibility. Sometimes they
become a reality. Yeah. Well, I'm sorry that
yours did, I guess, because it sounded pretty
horrific. Tell us what happened with the truck.
Well, the day started off great. We had been
filming out in the desert. This is at Stu Siegel
Productions on Ruffin Road. And it was a career
choice to be there because I really enjoyed working
as a body double, stand in actor and stuntman.
And every day was different. You never know what
to expect, especially even when you know on the
call sheet what you're going to be doing. Actors
sometimes wouldn't show up or stuntmen wouldn't
show up. And I was always the go to guy for for
the show. And I never know when I was going to
either be shot at or shoot at somebody or crash
a car or jump in, roll a wig and jump off a roof
and fight somebody. You know, always in an adrenaline
rush and that I was able to do it for 30 years
really made it exciting that every day was always
a gift and something to be truly appreciated.
It really wasn't to have happened being in Ohio
because there was just no filming there. And
I was given the opportunity from another Eric,
Eric Chabot. who was going to school in San Diego,
and he allowed me the opportunity to go out to
California. He invited me to stay with him to
get my footing. I had always wanted to be out
there by the ocean, out by the beach, and enjoying
the beautiful weather that California's known
for, and also the excitement of being in the
film industry. As not to jump... too far back,
but I would have never gotten into the film industry
if it wasn't for a really kind down in Kim that
I was dating at the time who wanted to be a model.
And she had set up an appointment with Betty
McCormick and it was a creative talent management
in Columbus, Ohio. So I said, I'll drive you.
And I had a trans am at the time, a fibered formula
and drove to drove her to the to this audition.
And when I got there, Betty says, is this the
young man? And I said, oh, no, no, no. This is
for Kim. And Kim said, well, I kind of pulled
a fast one on you, John. This is for you. I think
you should be modeling and acting. And I told
her, absolutely not. That's not a career choice
for me. And Betty immediately said, well, how
does $1 ,500 a day sound, John? And my jaw kind
of opened up and I went, well. that I could get
the new headers on my Firebird and I had all
these ideas and plans. And I'm like, yeah, I
could do this. So she said, well, we'll just
get a headshot and I'll send you to auditions.
It's that simple. Well, I did that. And pretty
soon I'm doing Burger King commercials and I'm
doing commercials for Shell Oil and Lazarus,
which was a local department store. And every
time I'd show up at the audition, I would get
the job. And so doors were opening, unconventionally
were opening for me. left and right. And I found
that kind of interesting where you're always
battling it out in an audition. And it seemed
like every time if I just showed up, I got the
job. Getting back to Eric and him inviting me
out to California, I didn't really have a lot
of money to make this move to California, but
I kind of sold everything and I had a bug convertible
at the time. And I put together a meager amount,
$452, $51 in my pocket. and prepared to make
the drive. Most people were laughing at me. My
friends were making fun of me and my family.
And you're not even going to make it, let alone
survive in California. But I was really determined
to make this happen. So I drove out. I was working
at a record store at the time as a manager. And
I had to let the owner know that I was going
to walk away. I started the journey. I knew that
time was not in my favor. So I needed to get
to California as soon as possible and start working
as soon as possible. I drove out. It kind of
went pretty good. There was a problem in the
desert. My bug overheated and I had to pull over
by a cactus and hide and shade until it cooled
down that night. But I did make it the following
day into San Diego and met up with Eric. And
I mean, they went to a mall bullocks men's store
in San Diego. There's a. department store and
got a job as a men's clothing salesman. So at
least I had a job there to get started. And the
following day I drove out to Stu Siegel Productions
on Ruffin Road and they had a casting and I told
them that I'd like to be in film. And in most
cases they would just laugh at you because I
had no resume other than some of the commercials
I did in Ohio. The casting agent there I said,
hey, you look a lot like Anthony Perkins. He's
the gentleman from Psycho. He needs a body double
for Monday and I need you to be there if you
can start and be his body double. And I thought,
oh my gosh, I'll leg up. And I didn't even know
what a body double was, but I said, yeah, I will
be there and I'll do it. So I showed up early
that day and we filmed at the same bar that Top
Gun was filmed at, all the bar scenes. And it
was so interesting to be there around the camera
and all the equipment and the people and the
actors. I was so excited. I was hooked. And I
knew that, you know, this was going to be like
a short term, month long opportunity. And I wanted
to make as many friends as possible. So I always
showed up early. I was willing to help everybody
and did so. I'd help pull cable. I'd help with
the camera crew and haul the big lens packages,
whatever it took. Made my friends. And long story
short, I ended up parlaying that opportunity
into a 30 -year career. I'm very lucky to have
enjoyed an extended career working with some
of the biggest names like Burt Reynolds and Chuck
Norris. I got to fight with him in a movie called
Top Dog. Burt Reynolds, Jerry Lewis, Rick Springfield.
I was his body double. Rob Estes on Silk Stockings.
That was a great group of individuals to work
with. Pensacola, High Tide. All these shows were
shows that were filmed at the studio. And so
we were filming on this show called Manhattan
Maze. And we had spent the week in the desert.
We were back at the studio this day. And we had
a whole bunch of animals that were being filmed
inside the studio, including a large elephant,
which was never that's the largest pachyderm
largest animal living soul that had ever gone
in the studio. And I happened to catch a photo
of the elephant exiting. through the extras or
the stage front and took a photograph which ended
up being used for the studios advertising. And
I was awful proud of that. So we get about a
45 minute, for me 45 minute break, the whole
crew gets an hour, but I need to be back a couple
of minutes early to work with the camera crew
to set up for the next shot, for the next scene.
And this was a Friday right before 4th of July
weekend. So I went out for a jog. I had my check
in my pocket. I took off my shirt and I was a
bodybuilder, so I wasn't bashful. And I did think
it was just wearing my shorts and my tennis shoes.
And I started to go for my run down to Claremont
Mesa Boulevard and Ruffin Road. And at this time,
there was no stoplights. Well, there was stoplights,
but there was no traffic lights to allow you
to cross at a safe point. You just pretty much
made a beeline and hopefully nothing hits you.
The weekend before 4th of July was I'm awful
busy. So I'm going to make the move and I stopped
and I went back and I'm, okay, hold on a minute.
And I'm looking at the light and this Honda Accord
pulls up with a bunch of young kids having a
blast inside and they put their food all over
the dash. I could see glasses and cups and straws.
And I'm thinking these people aren't even looking
over to see I'm gonna go behind them just outside
the crosswalk and continue my walk. And as I
did that, I noticed a flash out of the corner
of my left eye. and a white Ford pickup truck
struck me going about 40 miles an hour and my
body went through the windshield, my face lacerating.
I had never been hit so hard and that is where
I understand where the premonition of being hit
by a white wall came into play because it was
a white truck. It was a wall of energy and It
did scramble me. It scrambled me so much. I went
flying through the air, through the intersection.
People that were there, the witnesses and the
police reports said that I went flying about
20 feet in the air. And as I was flying through
the air, I was just above the middle of the intersection.
I saw my perspective change from my eyes to an
overview of me flying through the air. I could
see myself upside down. with my head facing the
pavement, about 20 feet up in the air, looking
down at the gentleman and his windshield knocked
out on his phone. So you're looking down on the
scene of what's happening to you? Yes, sir. Yes,
sir. Looking down at the actual scene and out
of body perspective. When that happens, does
the pain and the shock automatically go away?
I never had pain. I never took any medications.
I was prescribed all these pain relievers. I
think it was something immaculate. I definitely
had some angelic or God's hand in on my accident
because there was a immaculate healing that occurred.
My bones were mending at an incredible rate.
The doctors wanted to interview me after I was
run over. was quite embarrassed being a body
double and stuff. I didn't really, I was embarrassed
about the whole incident that occurred. Little
did I know how much it would change my life and
my perspective on life itself. But at the time
you had to have felt that truck, right? And that
impact. So there should be immediate pain from
that, you would think. And then as you're looking
down, is that all gone? That was what I was referring
to. It was calming. It was as if I had entered
a meditative state, yet I was completely aware
of what was going on around me at a broader sense,
not just through my human vision, but from a
perspective outside of my body of everything
around that it was all of a sudden I went from
my point of view to a worldly point of view of
everything that was going around and I was no
longer directly connected to my physical body,
I was a free soul. I was outside my body, having
an outer body experience. And as I was looking
down, I just went up higher and higher until
my perspective went to this white, mid white
cloud. It was like a white room, white cloud
that I was moving towards. As I was doing that,
I could feel and see the darkness behind me.
And darkness not as in like shaded darkness,
but black, like void of love, void of all energy,
the exact yin and yang, yin and yang of light
versus darkness. And I could feel the presence
behind me, though I was moving towards the light.
And that was my primary focus, though I had no
choice of the direction I was going. I was moving
towards the light. without any control or condition.
It was just inevitable. And as I entered inside
this white room, kind of felt like I was in a
cloud because there was no floor, there was no
ceiling. I could not see any definition beyond
this wonderful, warm, loving light that was surrounding
me. And then I noticed an angel standing directly
to my right who was no further than six feet,
like the most eight feet. from me and she was
looking at me and she was somewhat transparent,
yet she was glowing with light and I could see
all of her features. She was pretty and she was
about maybe five feet tall and I could not see
her feet. She was floating and cloaked with like
a transparent veil. and yet I could see her hair.
And again, she calmed me down immediately from
the anxiousness that occurs when you're hit by
a truck. She calmed me down and I immediately
was comfortable in my surroundings and was able
to start taking note of everything around me.
And being that I was not unconscious and I was
not on any medication of any type, I wasn't in
the hospital, I was completely aware of everything
around me. I was thinking, oh my goodness, I
can hear her talking to me, her words. And I
realized we were talking telepathically. And
then I immediately thought, well, how am I doing
this? No one taught me how to speak or how to
hear telepathically. It just happened naturally
once I was in heaven. She asked me to look and
to watch this, and she turned. So I looked the
same direction as she and I started to see visions
from the right side of my life. And it started
with a vision of me at Christmas time with my
family. And I was a young boy, eight years old,
maybe younger, with my brother and sister and
mom and dad opening Christmas gifts around the
Christmas tree. I could hear the wrapping opening
up and I could smell the Christmas tree and the
pine and even if you had bacon that morning,
bacon and eggs, so you could smell the bacon.
And it was surreal to see myself and be a spectator
on this dimensional level of my experience, being
so vivid and being exactly as I remembered it,
yet not being a dream, but literally re -experiencing
it, feelings and the memories, all very, very
sharp and accurate to the way I remember it to
be. And these visions continued on. It would
fade into another vision in memory, all pleasant,
all very positive. And I was always in attendance.
I could see myself there in these visions and
all the fun experiences in school, the girls
I dated, the friendships I had, the exciting
experiences and adventures. And each one had
no time, had no limitations other than I was
completely absorbed into the moments, both with
emotion and all my senses. And the interesting
thing was when she kind of faded, the angel faded
to the background as I was watching these because
it was so enthralling to see these memories coming
forward and feeling them and experiencing them
once again. It was a wonderful experience that
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There's a misnomer in regards to you go to heaven
and all of a sudden there's a disconnection to
your worldly life that you just experienced in
your physical body. All these things were vivid
and accurate in my mind though I was in heaven
and I was experiencing this new experience which
was with this angel and having telepathy and
having a conversation where there's no confusion
or misunderstandings where your words have expression
behind them. What you say and what you're experiencing
and you're conveying with telepathy cannot be
misunderstood. And it's always encapsulated with
love. Up in heaven, you're surrounded by love
and warmth and kindness. It felt like a comfortable,
like you were wrapped in a warm blanket and everything
is fine and there's no anxiety. If I could just
interject a couple of questions, because I don't
want to miss any of this detail. But I don't
want to get so far down the road that we forget
about some of these things that I'm really curious
about. This going back and living some of these
experiences, a lot of people have what we call
a life review. And during the life review, there's
usually a lot of these different circumstances
and something to be learned from it. Yours, I
don't know if you would classify it as that.
I'm asking you. or if it's more like you are
just reminiscing on all these wonderful happy
memories, or if those things are even different,
and they can be different. What do you think?
That's a very good question, Eric. To me, it
appeared to be somewhat of a life review, but
that I didn't experience any negative or anything
that I was ashamed of or anything that I saw
that I felt as if I had made a mistake in my
choices. They were all positive experiences.
And one thing I can tell you this much, Eric,
is that at no point did she interject or was
there any form of judgment. It was me judging
my experience on Earth and what all the different
chapters that I had gone through and experienced.
And at no point did I feel like there was any
judgment other than my perception of what I was
seeing. And at no point did I ever feel ashamed
or negative or felt as if I had failed or made
a mistake. It was all love and light and kindness
and merely an encapsulation of the bright spots
of like if you were to look at a diamond and
see the beautiful shimmers and glimmering colors,
that's kind of how it was. It was all beautiful.
I love that. That is really beautiful. In a life
review, there's always something to be learned.
Did you feel like, and I appreciate you saying
there wasn't shame and guilt and judgment. Everybody
tells me that same thing. And that is a relief
because we're all going to take some baggage
with us that we could feel some of those feelings.
But when you're feeling pure love, those kinds
of negative feelings tend to go away. So I'm
glad you got to experience that. At the same
time, you can also learn from those things. Do
you feel like you learned little lessons as you
were going through those reviews? Most definitely.
There was a certain level of... Well, let's just
say that if positive energies can get into your
mind and show you and you can experience love
and kindness and generosity and connections,
there's also negative energies that can come
into your mind and... I don't know if they have
a name for those, but like demonic energies that
can come in. I think it's important that humans
can discern on earth when you're hearing voices
and things that are not of a healthy nature.
In heaven, there were no dark voices that was
all very positive, very loving, and full of bright
light. But on earth, you can hear voices that
will say, well, go for it. No one's watching.
Take that piece of candy. No one's going to notice.
In heaven, it is all noticed. And it's when you
don't think that you're being noticed, as I took
a collection of, is when you're noticed the most,
is when you don't think you're being watched.
That's when God and angels are monitoring you
closer, because your mind is functioning in an
undeterred state. It's just you. So I highly
recommend that you do your best to listen to
the voices that, because there is no getting
away with anything in life. And I think that
I always had a healthy angel and a healthy, positive
outlook in my voices, in my mind that I would
always defer from going and doing anything negative.
And I was lucky enough to follow that rules and
that law of life in my mind growing up. So I
did not have anything to regret. And any moments
in my life or in my life review as you speak
that I was ashamed of. Okay, let's jump back
to where we were before I so rudely interrupted
you. You were talking about this beautiful angel
and the pure communication and the love that
you were feeling. Why don't you continue there?
So as I look at her and we're having these conversations,
I was thinking in my mind, if I hear her, she's
hearing me. And so I was very cognizant of what
I was thinking when I was speaking with her as
to the incredible, magnificent moment that I
was sharing and communicating with the angel.
She again is guiding me. And I was thinking in
my mind that just 10 seconds ago, it seemed like
it was hours ago, though in heaven, there is
no time. We perceive time here on Earth as our
linear way to to justify these experiences. But
in heaven, it's all happening simultaneously,
the past, the future, the present. And there's
nothing more important or anything more significant
than living in the present moment. That's the
closest thing you'll get to heaven is when you
are here on earth. And if it's during a conversation
or sharing a moment with an animal or a person
that you love and touching them and sharing this
energy, that the present moment is the significant
component that allows you to make these differences,
to make movements on this physical plane that
you're experiencing in the earthly realm with
your physical body. So I can never stress enough
to anyone that I speak to or speak with. that
you need to be completely present to put the
phone down, not to be distracted by anything
other than the gift of love and the gift of that
moment that you're sharing with others. And it
could be with a cat or a dog or anyone it is,
but that I really find that to be a significant
component of extending your moments into a history
of love, kindness and positive experience that
you can look back on and it can only be done
in the present moment when you are here and aware.
So getting back to that wonderful angel and sharing
that moment with her, I thought that the experience,
this life experience, had completed itself because
the last thing I remember is flying through the
air and that's where I turned to look at her
and wait for the next guidance from her. And
she said, hold on, there's something else I need
to show you. So I went back, I looked where I
was watching my life experience, and I saw this
green, beautiful grassy knoll, a woman standing
there with her back to me playing baseball with
this little boy. And the boy's about eight years
old. And I knew who they were, though I had not
experienced this yet. This was something in the
physical world to be my future. But I was not
there, and I was very aware of that, that I was
not present, yet I'm watching this beautiful
woman and this boy play baseball. I turned to
her, and I knew who they were, that it was my
future wife and my future son. And I turned to
her, and I asked her, where am I? And she told
me that I no longer exist, and that it's usually
difficult to think of this moment. Yeah. She
said, you no longer exist and that I wanted to
be there so much. This was the most significant
point of the whole black experience. And I asked
her, well, I need to be there. And you gave me
the opportunity to see this possibility. And
I always wanted to be married and I always wanted
a child. She turned and looked right in my eyes
and asked me if this was my choice. And I said,
yes, this is my choice. And the next thing I
know, I'm back in my physical body on earth.
And I realized that you have free choice in life
and in heaven, that you're not just taken and
placed places and moved about like a figure on
a chessboard, that you honestly can, you have
choices that you can make yourself and that you
are in control of your destiny. So choose wisely
on how you interact with others and especially
during the present moment. And again, the next
thing I know, I'm back in my physical body exactly
where I left it and gone into heaven and realizing
that I was upside down and that my head was facing
the pavement and that I'd better be very careful
in the next split second to get my hands behind
me or I'm going to crack my head open on the
pavement. And I did so and I ended up fracturing
both my wrists on impact and whipping a lot of
the flesh from my palms of my hand on impact.
But I immediately jumped up and was elated that
I was alive and that I was back on earth. I had
so much going through my mind and through my
heart. Most of it was just an appreciation and
an incredible love for life and for being here.
being surrounded by all these souls. My perspective
had completely changed from the moment before
when I was in my physical body having my life
experience with this angel and then coming back
to earth. And it's kind of like the scenario
where someone said, if you knew that you only
had one day to live, how would you live that
day? And I have been living my life ever since
as if it is one day that I have to live. And
I am so appreciative to have been back and allowed
to come back to earth and to help others, guide
others through the process, which is beautiful.
The process of passing and moving on and that
I was able to come back and be a voice for God
and be a voice for heaven and for the angelic
realm is an honor and a gift. And I'm very lucky.
So every day I wake up as if it's my last. And
it's my first. And I will always do nothing but
lead with love and kindness and appreciation
and also the humility of we are all here doing
our best as spirits and human bodies to have
a wonderful and having positive experience. And
it's up to us. We have a responsibility to each
other, to all the animals on this planet and
to the planet itself to treat it with respect
and love. and kindness. Anything outside of that,
politics and religion, none of those were there
in heaven. I didn't experience any of that materialism.
None of that existed. None of that was even shown
to me during my life experience. It was only
the moments shared with other living souls that
had any significance or any meaning. In high
regard, I really want people to understand that
that is why we're here and that that is the purpose
is to love each other. and to treat each other
with understanding and kindness. Thank you. What
a beautiful philosophy. I have a few more questions
for you, but before I move on to those, were
there any other details of this experience out
of body that you remember that you'd like to
share? It's important to understand that the
out -of -body experience and the experience of
passing is not like you're thrown into this world
of the unknown. You have no control in what's
happening. You have complete control of what
is happening in the spirit realm. The distractions
of materialism, the distractions of ego and the
distractions of things that have absolutely no
value or any meaning, which are presented here
on earth, you realize none of those have any
value. and that when you have the outer body
experience, it's almost a clarity of what truly
matters and what truly is a reason for being
here. And it's so simple. It's a single focus
of love, which encapsulates compassion and understanding.
And all of that is clearly presented and clearly
defined the moment that you leave your physical
body and the earthly realm all the distractions
dissipate and go away. Yeah. So I'm really curious.
You saw while you were there, your future wife
and child. When you finally met your wife, did
you recognize her? Yes, I did. I knew who she
was. I was working out at the at the club at
the. For fitness at the time, I used to work
hard every day because that was my job. She was
there working out and she had a complete purple
hue around her. It was like an unbelievable purple
like glow around her and something inside my
mind said approach her and I don't even know
why or the reasoning behind it other than I was
overwhelmed and I just got up and walked right
over to her and Said hello. My name is John And
I said, you need to hold it down, because you're
making us guys look bad over here. Because she
was exercising, and she was so focused. And she
started laughing. And I thought to myself, oh
my gosh, that has got to be the dumbest thing
I've ever said. And I was almost somewhat embarrassed.
In the moment, it was that I was to approach
her. I was to acknowledge her. It's funny how
the spirit world and the angels and God take
control of the important things. And all you
need to do is trust that everything will work
out. And in that moment, I learned to trust in
love. I just wondered if you had walked up and
said, by the way, I had this experience and you're
going to be my future wife. Yeah, probably better
to hold off on that for a bit. That one was going
to hold off on a little bit. It all came together
in a way. But can you imagine Eric having this
experience knowing the significance of of you
marrying this woman. And all of these thoughts
are going through my mind and it was so overwhelming
that everything in that moment was tied to me
being able to have a child, having my son, Dylan,
who is a gift in my life. Her name was Gina Geese
at the time, was a gift in my life and a chapter
that I am so blessed to have experienced. that
love and the opportunity to have a child with
her. We ended up living up on that ranch and
I ended up playing baseball with my son and this
woman that I married up on that ranch. And everything
came through exactly as I had dreamt or as I
had experienced in heaven. But I had to live
for a year or so knowing the future and living
it backwards. And I was so concerned that I would
do the wrong thing or say the wrong thing. that
she would not want to marry me and that all this
opportunity would have never come into fruition.
And that was the hardest year of my life because
I realized the significance of my actions, though
everything worked out very smoothly and that
there was no need for me to have concerns as
if the angels and God had taken care of this
and that it was all going to work out the way
I had been shown. within a year, we were engaged
and married. Though, you know, we have my son
now who's older and he is the gift in my life,
we did not remain married, though we are best
friends and we are, to this day, we talk often
and our primary concerns and relationship is
based on making sure that we provide for our
son, right, still bounce things off of her whenever
there's life changes and things in her. her opinion
in her life means much to me, and I really wish
her the very best, though I think God has kind
of put me on a different path at this time, a
very powerful spiritual path that is still, let's
say, unwinding and opening as I do my best to
follow in what I experienced in Heaven. We're
all on that. But you had that couple of years,
it was like, just don't blow it, just don't blow
it. Exactly. I know what's coming if I just don't
mess it up. How old is your son now? He's 22.
Shout out to Dylan. Hello, Dylan. He'll greatly
appreciate that. He and I have a friendship.
I've never seen myself as a father. He never
needed a dad. He just needed love. And he has
exceeded expectations in regards to our relationship
and we just have a close friendship as if he's
my best buddy and that everything that we do
and share together, we're always laughing and
having a good time. I am so blessed with every
day that I get to share with him. I'm aware of
that and I never hesitate to tell him from my
heart that I love him and that I appreciate him
and that there was so much that I learned from
him. not just as an adult bringing up a younger
son, but as a friend who I've learned as much
from him as I have been able to instruct from
my perspective. I can so relate to all that.
I mentioned to you about Will, my son, early
on. He's just a little bit older than that. And
here's what you have to look forward to. Dylan,
his wife, partner, whatever, may have a child
someday. Like wills did last summer and that's
softly special too. So you've got that to look
forward to as well Trust me. It's pretty cool.
I I always say that like oh my gosh, I'm excited
for the future but then I'm thinking well if
I say anything that may put a Outside a pressure
or premonition on on what he is to achieve because
sometimes I wonder about the egg or the chicken
what came first because Again, I learned so much
from my son that I'm always thinking I don't
want to change his perspective because he has
gifts that amaze me to this day. And I wonder
was it he or I that was meant to come back and
to make a difference and to express wholeheartedly
the significance of being a soul in a human body
and sharing in the gift of the human experience
here on Earth. Good question. Okay, a couple
more quick questions. I want to hear just a little
bit more about this angel. You described a little
bit that she was beautiful and what she was wearing.
Did you ever get a feeling like she was some
kind of relation to you? She was assigned to
you as a guide. What else did you feel from her?
I felt that she was the epitome of what I thought
an angel would be. if I were to meet one. And
so I don't know if I have a bias because what
I feel comfortable and what I see or thought
as a young boy going to a Lutheran church and
seeing Jesus up on the cross and I always wondered
what the experience would be like being crucified.
I always was concerned about that and it ended
up that I was, in a way, and being able to come
back. and to relive and to come back from a near
-death experience. That the angel was everything
that I thought that she would be loving, light,
and reassuring of my path, and she was everything
that I envisioned her to be. And I felt so comfortable
as if I had been here before, I had done this
before in heaven, and that I remembered everything.
that we try to experience, that we try to achieve
here on Earth. Having the ability to speak with
her telepathically, if we could do that here
on Earth, how many things could be disregarded
in the mistakes of thoughts and voices and words
that people say that are misinterpreted between
humans. There was no misinterpretation with the
angel. She and I spoke with complete clarity,
which made me feel so at ease and so loved. Well,
in my understanding of that telepathic communication,
as you've explained it and as other people have
explained it, it may not necessarily be in words
but more of a transfer of meaning, which is why
there's no misinterpretation. I mean, in this
life we often use the wrong words and a word
I say to you might mean something different to
somebody else. So when we can just lovingly transfer
some kind of meaning back and forth, Perfect
communication. We would have perfect marriages.
We would have perfect relationships with everybody
here if we could just do that. How much fear
of death do you have? Absolutely none. My wife
used to get so mad at me. She'd say, you are
walking right in the path of that vehicle. And
she grabbed me and pulled me out of the way.
I have absolutely no fear of death at all. I
would not ask it. because I realized the gift
of me being here and that I'm making incremental
changes in my life and in the life of others
by even speaking with you now and expressing
that the near -death experience and the death
experience itself is a positive experience and
in no way is it negative. Of course, it's difficult
for those who are still existing when you lose
a loved one, and that's understandable. But from
the loved one's perspective, Be it heaven or
hell you choose how you will live that be it
in heaven or here on earth You can choose to
live in heaven here on earth That that you know
the significance of the present moment. I cannot
express that enough that if you can take a couple
deep breaths and When you get excited or you
get angry or that you're ready to say something
that you may regret To take a couple breaths
breathe deep and allow your earthly mouth to
say the words that are almost cannot be mistaken
by anything other than love and kindness and
generosity and understanding because only in
the present moment can you perform miracles and
that's what you're here to do is to experience
miracles and to be a fulcrum, a pendulum of providing
miracles to others but it's only done in the
present moment. You can't do it in forethought
or in reflection of the past. Those energies
are no longer in the active realm of your ability
to be in the present moment and to perform miracles.
Trent John Miller, thank you for being with me
today. Thank you for opening up and sharing some
of these really deep things. I appreciate it.
Thank you, Eric. Thanks again for listening and
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