Since the dawn of time, man's deepest questions
have revolved around the reality of an afterlife.
Of course, there's never been a way to know until
now. Witnesses of the world beyond, hope in a
better existence, overwhelming, unconditional
love, real people, real experiences and a glimpse
into the eternities. This is Round Trip Death.
I am super happy to welcome to the show today
Tammy Chaney. Tammy, how are you? Very good,
thank you. It's a good day today. It's a fantastic
day. And we were just chatting about all your
travels. And one thing that I love to do before
we talk about somebody's near -death experiences
is to get to know them just a little bit. So
if you wouldn't mind taking one minute and tell
us a little bit about, well, whatever you feel
like so we can get to know you. But I think the
traveling is really interesting. OK, so I've
been traveling. Well, it's 11 years in February.
This year will be 11 years. I'm originally from
Southwest Florida, Naples, Fort Myers area, born
on the East Coast of Florida. I just came to
a place where, see my issue was as I kept moving
from place to place to place because I needed
to change my scenery. So when I went on the road
and I started traveling and my scenery was changing
all the time, I felt like I felt peace for the
first time ever in my life. So that became my
life and I've traveled all over the United States,
pretty much every state except I think there's
about four or five states, the upper like North
Dakota, South Dakota, Michigan, all that upper
area I have not done yet. But other than that,
I've done them all and I've done them all multiple
times, multiple, multiple times. What are a couple
of your favorites? Well, Colorado is by far my
favorite state. Arizona, where I'm at now, I'm
in Phoenix. Phoenix isn't where I love in Arizona.
Flagstaff or Lake Havasu or Sedona. I love those
areas of Arizona. So Arizona is definitely my
second favorite and then New Mexico. So I love
the West and I love that whole duo of all three
of those states together. Many states are beautiful.
It's just just something about the energy is
the only way I can describe it for New Mexico
Arizona and Colorado. The energy is just it's
off the charts Okay, well we're gonna jump right
into some of your experiences and I don't mind
warning the audience We're gonna be all over
the place today. This isn't gonna go necessarily
exactly chronologically But why don't you jump
in and tell us what happened with your head injury
and we'll kind of go from there Okay, so so that
was my near -death like experience. It's exactly
like a near -death I was living in a home that
was for Women that were pregnant that had had
some sort of injury you know, regardless of how
it came and they needed to be in a place that
was like a protective home, I guess you could
say. At that time, I started going to church
because it was a church -based home, and so I
started going to church for pretty much the first
time in my life. I did go to Sunday school here
and there when I was a kid because a bus would
come and pick us up, but the only thing I remember
about that was the juice and the snacks that
they would give us. And so actually going to
church and now at this time I'm 24 years old,
I'm pregnant and I have a almost three year old
son at that time. I go to this church and after
about the third time going there, I had an experience
which was, I don't know, I think people call
it like a Kundalini awakening. All I know is
my eyes couldn't see clearly is the only way
I can describe it metaphorically speaking and
when I went through this experience and I can
go into detail if you want but when I had this
experience I all of a sudden could see everything
crystal clear completely different from the way
that I was seen and I mean like the people around
me the world like everything in the world that
experience in itself had already it was a full
-blown I was completely a different person at
that time. So exactly two weeks later after that
experience. Now I'm going to go back just a little
tiny bit before I tell about this experience.
I had a head injury. Where I was blacking out
for about 10 seconds every day like throughout
the day Because of my head injury and and it
would just be I would be out for 10 seconds And
I'd come back to and how the neurologist said
this to me is he said I was having non epileptic
seizures and what happens is the brain shuts
down just for seconds and then Reboots back online.
I guess that's what a non epileptic seizure is
So I'm not sure if that's what happened but basically
what I did is I went into my room and I did nothing
more than I sat on my bed and I leaned back onto
the backboard that was behind me I didn't lay
down I was sitting up but leaned back on the
backboard and Instantaneously, I was not where
I was when I sat down anymore. I was in a whole
other place and now this place Would appear like
earth only because it had a dirt road. It had
trees that have flowers It had this very ancient
looking building off to the to the right so it
kind of looked like earth, but What I was seeing
is I was seeing the most beautiful Flowers that
I had ever seen Was seeing grass that was the
most beautiful grass that I had ever seen the
trees were like Like everything was so vibrant
everything was in such beautiful colors Colors
that I would never be able to describe here.
They were not colors that exist here in this
time frame Next to me was this being On this
side and another being on this side and now they
looked humanoid But there there was this aura
I guess on them they were shiny it's the only
way I can describe it or bright bright I guess
bright would be a better word. They had this
brightness about them and so I'm walking with
these two beings and I'm I'm freaking out like
I'm literally like running over to the flowers
and and just looking at the beauty of them and
running back to them and we're walking ahead
I'm like and the trees look at the you know I'm
literally freaking out probably like a child
in a candy store at what I was seeing and the
trees the the leaves on the trees were this just
most Beautiful green that I can't even explain,
but it was almost like it was translucent is
the only way I can describe it. They were like
they were just this beautiful translucent green.
And of course, I'm running back and forth. I'm
freaking out. I'm like, I can't believe this.
And as we're walking down this road, what was
so what was so specific about the flowers is
as you're walking, the beauty of the flower.
is like every time you look at the flowers, they're
always facing you is the only way I can describe
it. You never see the back of the flowers. In
fact, I didn't see the back of the tree either,
but I didn't go behind the tree. I was seeing
it from this angle, but you never saw the back
of the flower. So as you're passing them, every
time you look at them, they're always facing
you is the only way that I could describe it.
So you're just continually seeing the beauty
of this flower there was also a the only way
I can describe it is it was a tone there was
this tone in the air as well as this smell that
was it was just there's no way to describe the
smell that I smelled I don't even know any example
Like maybe it would be every single flower that
exists on the face of the earth that gives smell
was all combined together in this amazing like
smell. I hate to interrupt. I have so many questions
at this point and I want to hear all the details.
So I promise we're going to come back. We left
off on the smell. I just want to fill in a few
blanks. That's all. One is Did you feel like
you like your spirit left your body? Did you
feel like it was a dream? What did you feel like
was going on? No, I was definitely 100 % Transported
from one place to the other and that place was
more real than than the earth place and The reason
why I say that I did not it wasn't like an out
-of -body experience because for me personally
I started having out -of -body experiences when
I was five years old and when you have an out
-of -body experience you feel well I did I felt
the feeling of like it would be like is the only
way I can describe it and as a five -year -old
It was extremely scary. I was scared to death.
Like, I didn't know the name out of body, nor
did I know that what was happening to me was
not normal. I thought that was normal human things,
so it wasn't even anything to even talk about.
And when you go back into the body, there is
still some sort of an effect that you feel when
you go back into the body. And that was scary
to me as well because there's an experience that
you have in both of those transactions. In this
experience that I had, it was instantaneously.
There was no me popping out of my body or even
popping back in. I was instantaneously somewhere
else. It was so real. It was more real than here
is the only way I can describe. Like it was I
knew that was home. Actually, I knew that was
my home. And that's part of what I'm trying to
figure out is how are you transported from here
to here if your body was still here? Help me
understand. I have absolutely no idea. But my
body was definitely still sitting on that bed.
in the exact same position that I was in when
I left. Okay. Thank you for the honesty. I appreciate
that. I'm wondering when all this is going on
and the beautiful flowers and the smell and the
two beings and everything, what are you feeling?
Is there fear? No. I instantaneously, from the
moment I was there, I instantaneously felt what
true unconditional love is. There's really no
like perfect human word to put to it. I knew
instantaneously that was my home and I knew instantaneously
that I was being flooded with this pure unconditional
love is the only way I can describe it. That's
why it was more real than here. You don't feel
those things here. Even just that word love,
L -O -V -E, is such a tiny minute little word
compared to actually what love feels like. Did
you feel like that love was coming from the beings
or from the place? I felt like it was in everything.
This is the only way I can describe it, okay?
Everything there was this love. It was Everything
is the only way I can describe it. It was everything
that love was everything Okay, tell me a little
bit more about the beings. You said that they
were shiny and humanoid looking Right. Do you
think they had names? Did you know who they were?
Give me some more idea Yeah, no, I never asked
their names. I'll be I'll be completely honest
with you the only thing that was coming out of
my mouth towards these beings was the words of
me freaking out about what I was seeing. The
beings actually never even spoke a word to me.
It was like they were leading me up this street
and they were not dressed like, you know, how
we dress now. They were definitely something
from an older time frame is the only way I can
describe it. They weren't dressed like us. They
dressed like ancient is the only way I can describe
it. And they never spoke to me. They never said
nothing to me. Everything that was happening
there, it was coming from me. You know, I was
speaking. You're freaked out. Words are coming
out of your mouth. What kinds of things are you
saying? I'm saying, oh my gosh, look at the flower.
I'm like, you know, and I'm going to the net
and I'm like, and this one, and this one, and
the grass. Oh my gosh, look at the grass. You
know, I'm like, I'm just Freaking out about what
I'm saying. It was just me Almost being the me
that is normal me You know, it's just my normal
me was there a really good kind of freak out
not a scared kind of freak out Right, right.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, it was instantaneous.
I knew this was my home and instantaneously it
was The pure, unconditional love. That's the
only way I can describe it. Pure, unconditional
love. There is no word for the feeling that you
feel there. It is just so pure is the only way
I can describe it. Just complete pureness. Have
you ever felt anything even remotely close to
that in this world? Never. No. I don't think
that can exist here. I just don't believe it
can exist here. It's not something that is...
It just can't. It can't exist here. It's not
human. Whatever it is, it's not human. Tell me
more about this tone. Was this like a musical
note or what was it? Okay, so it was almost like
it was music, but it wasn't, okay? It was like,
it's nothing I've ever heard here on Earth. So
to put it into words, it was like energy. With
lots of beautiful lights, but I didn't see energy
and I didn't see a bunch of lights But what my
head's telling me right now the only way that
I can try to describe it is it's all these beautiful
colors and it's Moving is the only way I can
describe it. Nobody's ever asked me that before
I'm like, wow, I don't know how to describe that
It wasn't music like we hear here. It's not like
that It was different. It sounds very multi -sensory,
like seeing, feeling, hearing, maybe some sensories
that we just don't have here. I mean, we don't
really have words for this, so we're trying to
figure out how to say and express this. It almost
sounds like more than multi -sensory kind of
experience, more than seeing, hearing, feeling,
like maybe you had more centuries than you do
here. Yeah, I was definitely like, that's how
I used to explain it. I'm like, this was me up
there. I was because it really was like it was
I can't use the word intense because that almost
seems like a negative there was nothing negative
about it at all. I just I knew I was home and
I knew that I was obviously somewhere else and
and the overwhelming feeling of love was just
no words can describe it. When you say home,
does that mean this is a place where you feel
like you have been before? That I can't answer,
but what I mean by home is I know that this is
only temporary and not that I knew anything about
I didn't know nothing at that time about nothing.
I'm going to be completely honest with you. I
knew that that was a place where I must have
been before. There was no I did not have to contemplate
anything in my head. There was no there was no
remembering that I had been there before. There
was no other thought other than I knew that was
my home. That's the only way I can describe it.
There was no thought. I don't know if you have
thought on the other side or not because there
was no thought. It was just, it just was, is
the only way I can describe it. It wasn't in
any of my out -of -body experiences at five and
six and seven and eight years old. I never have
been there before. I never went there. I didn't
out -of -body and go to some other realm like
that. It was, in my opinion, in my human self,
here being on Earth, I'd never seen that place
before in my life. In my now brain. You know
what I mean? But when I was there, immediately,
it was just 100 % complete knowing. I knew that
was my home. I was feeling the most amazing unconditional
love 2 .0 I mean. Thank you for answering all
those questions for me. Let's jump back to where
we were. You were talking about the smell and
I want to hear more about that and then I want
you to keep going on from there. The smell sounds
like if you could figure out how to bottle that
you'd be rich making perfume. Oh yeah so the
smell was well like I said before it's almost
like It would be a combination of like roses
and gardenions and lilac and violet, like all
these smells you're smelling, but it's like it's
all one smell. It's like it's only one smell,
but you're smelling all of these like together,
all at once. It would be like having, I guess,
guess a good explanation would be like having
a bouquet of flowers and having all the flowers
that give off beautiful scent or herbs, you know,
because I because I do remember it being Like
there had to have been sage or lilac. I don't
know other plants other than flowers because
the smells it was like you could smell every
single smell but it was all happening at the
exact same time. That's the only way I can describe
it. OK, what happened next? OK, so as I'm like
freaking out and everything about the flowers
and I'm running back to the beings, we're walking
again down this dirt road, I all of a sudden
have the thought, I guess, or not the thought,
just my body just automatically did it. I look
over my shoulder. to see what's behind me because
at this point even though I was running around
like a maniac I didn't see anything behind me
my focus was always only on the two men and my
focus was always on just the flowers and the
trees and the grass so I looked over my shoulder
like this and when I looked over my shoulder
back behind me going as far as the eye can see
there were these beings that were humanoid shaped.
Okay, that's the only way I can describe it.
They were shaped like a human, but there was
no clothes, no face, no skin, no nothing. They
were pure light beings, and they were as far
as the eye can see. And as soon as I saw those
light beings, I turned my head back to the front
of me. And now in front of me, instantaneously,
there's this big, gigantic, huge light. It wasn't
there before. It was a light similar to the sun,
but it would be like, you know how when you're
watching a sunset at the beach and the sun comes
down and it's resting on the water? Well, picture
it taking up the whole line of the water instead
of just that small section. The whole front of
me was taken up by this light. that was like
the sun. Instantaneously, I knew that light was
God. I don't know how to put that in any other
words other than I knew that light was God and
that is who I had been speaking to, communicating
with since I was three years old. Once I saw
that light, Once I knew that was God and that
that was who I'd been speaking to since I was
three years old I turned my head over to the
one of the I don't know if I turned from the
right or the left I don't remember which way
I turned but I turned my head and looked at the
being and I said I can't wait to go back and
tell everyone and Instantaneously, I was right
there on my bed just like that instantaneously
I was on my bed so immediately the first thing
that I wanted to do as soon as I realized I was
now back in my bed is I wanted to jump up and
I wanted to go tell all the other girls in the
house what just happened to me so I jump up just
like my thought was Ran out into the hallway
area. You got to understand at this place that
I was at it was like a four -bedroom house You
had a master bedroom on one side and then you
had four bedrooms on the other side It was it
was just a regular house that you would never
know was a safe house. I Go out into the hallway
and every time we would see each other. We would
always speak Anytime we saw each other walk wherever
we were at in the kitchen. We'd say hey, what's
up or whatever? You know what I mean? We we'd
speak Well, I went into the hallway and started
walking and the girls started walking past me
and I went to go speak and I I could not even
get a Not even a noise out of my my mouth. Okay,
I didn't know what was going on. But at the same
time I could still feel that light that I had
just left. It was like I came back here and there
was this bubble around me of that light, okay?
When I realized I couldn't speak, I immediately
turned back around and I went back to my room
and I sat on my bed. And I said to myself, I'm
just gonna sit here until whatever this is leaves
me, and then I'll get up. and I literally sat
there for about 45 minutes and after about 45
minutes I thought in my head I wonder if I can
speak yet and I literally just said like three
simple words and the words came out and I jumped
up and I instantly went out there and started
telling the girls what had happened to me. Whoever
I was before that experience I don't know who
I was before that experience But I had had that
experience the other experience at the church
two weeks earlier So there was already something
happening with me, but whoever I was before that
experience It wasn't who I was after the experience
So I'm telling these girls what happened to me
and I'm like, you know, cuz in my head I'm thinking
all I got to do is tell them about this experience
and then they'll know And the same thing that
happened to me will happen to them, you know,
I had no, I just automatically assumed that.
Well, that wasn't the response I got. In fact,
these girls thought I lost my mind. They could
not believe how I was talking. I don't know how
I talked before, but they could not believe how
I was talking. I immediately became somebody
in the house that was the girls began to start
feeling a little bit standoffish too. Because
once that experience happened to me, I couldn't
keep my mouth shut I could not stop talking about
it Like it was day and night any person that
would allow me to speak to them That is all I
had to talk about because it was that Extreme
for me nothing else in the whole entire world
mattered anymore Except for that experience that
I had and I needed to tell the whole world I
actually ended up losing, I only had a handful
of people that were in my life that I wouldn't
necessarily would say friends, but they were
people in my life. And they all cut me out of
their life. Like literally, they cut me out of
their life. I did not have one friend left of
whoever was in my life before that experience.
Now I know that I can be a little bit dramatic.
and very pushy when i'm trying to like you know
i'm like don't you see what i'm saying it was
that extreme for me i left that place saying
i can't wait to go back and tell everybody i
i wasn't lying when i said that and that was
all that came out of my mouth to anybody that
i saw or talked to because i couldn't stop it
was that powerful whatever that was so yeah that
was my experience With that anyways, I've had
so many. We'll talk about a couple other things,
but do you, and I'm asking you to speculate here
or just tell me your feelings. Do you feel like
that is the place you are going back to after
you die someday? I'm just going to be honest
with you. I don't necessarily think that the
trees, the flowers, the road, The grass, the
building, the beings behind me, I don't think
that that was necessarily a place. It was more
of the feeling of that unconditional love. I
knew that that's what I, I knew that was the
home. It was more of what I was experiencing
there rather than what I was seeing. In my own
opinion, whatever that visual that I had of trees
and flowers, that may exist somewhere, possibly,
but I don't think that that is an actual physical
place, I guess. I just know that that feeling
of that unconditional love that permeated the
place, the tones that were going on, the colors
of the flowers, all of that, it was all one.
It was all, everything was just one. I was one
with it. It was one with me. It was all one together.
It was just all one. And when I say that I knew
that that was home, I don't mean the place itself.
If that makes sense. It was the feeling of it.
Yeah, it was just a feeling. So let me ask the
question a different way then. Do you think that
after you're done with this life, that you are
going someplace where that's what you will feel
again, that place you felt was home? Is that
where you feel like you're going back to? 100%.
I already know that. I 100 % know that. So you
have no fear of death and obviously I don't have
fear of actually dying I don't want to leave
my children in a Devastated state that they lost
their mother the feeling of knowing what it feels
like to lose somebody That's what I fear. I'm
like I have to be here for as long as I well
I already know I'm gonna live to be at least
a hundred I've always known that I've always
said that I don't know how I know that but I'm
gonna live to be at least a hundred so I I'm
not really fully worried about it, but I do think
about it from time to time. What if I was wrong
my whole life? What if I do leave early? I'm
like, oh my gosh, I just I don't ever want my
children to ever have to feel that kind of pain.
That's what gets me. Not the actual transition,
because you don't there is no feeling of transition
when you transition to the other side. There
is you're here and then you're there. And it's
instantaneously there is no in between. You don't
feel death. There is no feeling in death. Death,
in my opinion, is an illusion. I believe death
is a made -up word by humans, and it's not something
that really exists. We go from this existence
to that existence instantaneously, and there
is no feeling. Well, and as humans, I can see
why we would make up the word because there is
somebody or some animal or something. that was
alive and moving a minute ago and now they're
not any longer and that's all we know. So hence
a word like that has to come into play. I know
that you mentioned that you lost your friends
after this. How else did it change your life
and your personality? I never turned back to
be honest with you. I have been full force with
and have had many many other experiences not
like that, but other experiences that had continued
to happen to me and still continue to this day
happen to me that are definitely outside the
human vessel activity. Or inside. It's inside,
but it's outside. I can't explain it. It's something
that I'm well aware, I guess, about myself. I
know that we're, we're, we're light beings, and
I know that this is only a meat suit. You know
what I mean? Like I under, I have the knowledge
of knowing that which is within me, which is
also without me, because it's, it's everything.
That's why it's in and it's out, and that's the
only way I can describe it. So I, I never stopped
talking, but as I went more experiences and more
experiences and more experiences were happening.
So it went from that to talking about this to
talking about that and talking about this and
you know if I got into a real good conversation
with somebody I'd revert back to my experience
you know that happened at that time and and the
experience that happened at the church but I
never stopped talking this is my whole life.
This is all I do. Like all my kids, I only have
one of my kids that travels with me. The rest
of my kids are adults, but he's 14 years old
and he's heard it his whole entire life. He's
heard me speak to every single person I walk
into or end up having a conversation with. He's
heard me say it to every single person I have
a conversation with. All my kids. That's all
that comes out of my mouth. And what do you find?
Some people aren't ready to hear something like
that, obviously. What kind of reactions do you
get? I'll be honest with you. If I end up being
in an encounter with a person, it's always for
a specific reason and it has everything to do
with whatever is going to come out of my mouth.
Like I've never had anybody be like offended.
I've never had anybody make any kind of derogatory
comments. In fact, generally people are whatever
it is, it goes on them, you know, just a little
bit. This is strangers, okay? Not my friends,
not people that knew me, whoever I was before,
okay? These are complete strangers. When I went
on the road, that was my main goal. Now I'm gonna
reach as many people as I possibly can. And so
anybody that I bumped into, it... Became like
a conversation. That's what they heard and generally
they're hugging me when they're leaving They're
thanking me. They're gifting me. I can't I I
don't think I've ever had a bad Encounter I'll
be honest with you I don't think I've ever had
a better bad encounter whoever I talked to they
leave with something a piece a little grain sand
piece of Whatever it is that I have now what
they do with that is is you know I never see
these people again so I don't know what they
do with it but I can almost guarantee the way
that they were reacting after the fact they probably
will never forget about me for the rest of their
life sounds like your mission in life is just
to spread all of this all right Tammy there's
actually So so so much more that we can talk
about and we're gonna have you back on the show
sometime To talk about some of these other things,
but I feel like this is a good place to wrap
this discussion But I want to give you the last
word I want to give you a chance to leave everybody
with a some kind of a message of hope Some positivity
to brighten their day and their whole outlook
on life right now Okay, so what I want to say
is this earth supposed to be heaven on earth
and if we can we can all just only grasp the
message to love your neighbor as yourself true
unconditional love and you ask who's your neighbor
every single human being on the face of the earth
that's who your neighbor is this is supposed
to be heaven on earth right now and the earth
is changing so many people are waking up So my
message is wake up allow yourself to to wake
up We all collectively together could change
this whole planet beautiful Tammy Thank you so
very much. If anybody wants to reach out to you
We will stick a link to something of yours down
in the show notes So that people can follow along
a little bit more and we'll have you back again
sometime. Thanks. All right. Perfect. Have a
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