From the time that they pronounced me that was
a good 45 minutes They cut my clothes and then
they paddled my heart my heart stopped and I
could see people screaming and crying But I didn't
realize that was actually my physical body because
I was somewhere else The only thing that I could
feel if you can imagine Absolute love and peace
there wasn't anything else to be felt. I was
greeted by people I'd known in the past I'm back
home again. Incredibly safe and felt at home.
Welcome, welcome to Round Trip Death everybody
and a warm welcome to our special guest today,
Gary Wimmer. And you're down in Texas, right
Gary? Correct, Austin, Texas. Well, it's good
to have you here. I appreciate you reaching out
to me. Can't wait to hear your story. Before
we jump into it and hear about your NDE, Give
us an idea of who's Gary. Tell us a little bit
about you. Well, I'm the third of seven sons,
Catholic parents. I was raised Catholic, altar
boy. I had a lot of interest in God and Christ,
but when I went through puberty, I left the Catholic
Church. But I never left my search for God and
Christ and truth, you know. I had six brothers,
and I was overwhelmed with interest in things
like that. They were all sports guys or business
guys and still are. good guys, but I was the
curious one. I always wanted to seek the truth.
I wanted to know the truth. And in 1977, I had
a near -death experience that revealed it to
me. I had no idea anybody could go to Infinite
Mind or God or whatever you want to call it and
come back and talk about it. And this was before
I knew People were having near -death experiences.
I didn't know how to put it into context with
anything. I was 29 1977 I knew what I saw I knew
what happened But and I feel like the luckiest
person on the planet because I got a trip there
and back And that's what this show is all about.
That's why round trip is in our title. Well in
1977 that was about within a couple of years
of the time that the phrase near -death experience
was coined by Dr. Moody, as you know. So I'm
guessing you had no idea what happened to you.
So how did you process it? Well, it was challenging.
I went through a week of escalating psychic ability
that I could not turn off or understand. I felt
these protective monitors, guardian angels, something
watching me, something aware. Didn't see them,
could feel them. After a week of this insane
escalating psychic ability that just literally
scared the hell out of me. I've never been so
scared in my life. At the same time, I never
felt so enlightened, so protected. spiritually
guided in some way. I knew I was going somewhere,
I didn't know what, but the things I just mentioned
were not normal life as a musician. That changed
overnight. Because all of a sudden, I'm picking
up everything about people around me. Someone
said, I'll be over at your place in a while.
I'd look at the clock and jump to 228. I know
that they're going to be walked through that
door at 228. This went on for a solid week. I
could not cut off. The whole book I wrote of
Second Eternity covers a lot of these episodes.
And finally, after the end of a week, I was terrified.
I couldn't take it anymore. I was racing down
Guadalupe Street here in Austin, Texas, crying,
scared, terrified, but still mind blown over
what I could feel because everybody walked by
to pick up everything in their life. What I couldn't
do is turn it off or know why it was happening.
And all of a sudden, in the middle of this incredible
panic and fear, I closed my eyes and started
praying, and, God, I can't take this help. I
know you're there. All of a sudden, I felt this
incredible warmth immediately. It's mid -February.
And I look up, and there's this huge light shining
down on me. And I look around, and none of these
people who were witnessing me, because I kind
of had a circle around me, I was acting rather
strange, you know, crying and praying. And they
didn't see the light? No, and it was amazing
to me, and I didn't care. You guys may see it
or not. So I looked back up, and I turned to
do a crystal table about this thick, and the
palms of seven grayish, white -robed beings were
sitting around the table without any chairs,
and their hands were shining this light down
on me. And they said, do you trust us? And I
said, man, I don't know what's been going on.
I've been going through these extremes. I'm thinking,
shh, do you trust us? They asked that a time
or two. And finally I said, yeah, because I felt
protected and warm. The fear had vanished immediately.
I didn't know what I was trusting them for, but
it was better than what I had been going through,
you know, the panic button. And so I said, yeah,
long story short, within... Second or two, I
was hit head on by a speeding car. I saw my body
from above the car get tumbled over by the car,
hit the damn bumper and the windshield. And then
all of a sudden I'm outside my body and I'm expanding
like a balloon. The surface going out in all
directions, not like an arrow, just like a balloon.
I instantly realized, instantly, that's the way
souls leave the body. they go out like a balloon
in all directions. Gary, I'm so sorry to interrupt.
I just want to clarify something that I think
I've missed. Sure. I thought you were talking
about the week after your NDE. Was this prior
to your NDE? This is leading up to it. Leading
up to it. Okay. Thank you for clarifying. Keep
going. Yeah, it was in the end of January 77,
things started happening strange. And by February
7, 1977, when I actually had the experience and
went through ultimate terror and then ultimate
joy and thrill and light and seeing these monitors
and they're talking to me and I'm freaking out
and they finally say do you trust us and I said
yeah and like I said I was hit head on by a speeding
car and spanning outward and instantly realized
that's how souls come in too. So I had no idea
pretty soon thereafter who I was. It was pure
sensation, and it was pure beauty. It was fearless.
I felt protected, had no idea where I was going,
but the ride there was fun. And I wasn't in time
and space, and it was hard to tell the difference
between sequentiality and simultaneousness, because
that's what we see in time and space. Things
are separated by time and space. But out there,
It's a whole different ballgame. Well, you mentioned
something about the ride there. What was that
all about? Don't leave anything out. Tell me,
tell me step by step and fill in the details.
That's this expansion I'm going through. As I
expanded, I started seeing planets, the Earth,
the whole solar system, galaxies going within
me. Now my body's down there on Guadalupe Street
in Austin, Texas, but my psyche, my soul, whatever.
It's expanding. Then it went through the edge
of the universe. I know that tickles physicist
minds, but that's what it felt like. And when
I went through this edge of this universe, I
went through a level of consciousness that seemed
to define itself as the colors, because it was
a level of consciousness that I perceived that
we come through and it gives us the ability through
our senses our hearing, our thought, our brains,
our consciousness to understand who we are and
where we came from. We go through that before
we enter into the physical universe, and again,
collapsing down to the mother at birth. Well,
I was going the other way. I broke through the
universe, broke through the colors, had no idea
who I was. Pure sensation. And then I saw, wow,
that's the universe I came out of, and there's
billions of them. There's infinite universes
and they seem to roll up into a big Tunnel of
light that's the best explanation very common
term and it felt like that I'm going through
this big circling silverish white clouds like
a clown in a balloon not aware of who I am pure
sensation no fear no doubt and then all of a
sudden I come out the other side of this tunnel
and I'm in this infinite blue void that I instantly
realized as the infinite mind of God. Completely
unbiased. Either it was here and everything's
possible, which is the case, or it wouldn't be
here and nothing would exist. There's no in between.
And the thing that astonished me is the unbiased.
It's not good or bad. It's infinite creativity.
Humans are biased. Humans are good or bad. not
nature. And so as I'm observing this, I feel
like I was there for eternity. That's why I wrote
the book, A Second in Eternity, because it went
on and on. I felt like I was getting the whole
tour through Infinite Mind and all these possibilities
over time and space. And then all of a sudden,
I felt like I was witnessing it instead of being
on the merry -go -round. I'm all of a sudden
off of it, witnessing it, and I'm being pulled
back to somewhere. And I go back through this
tunnel of light and come out the other side and
come through these colors and enter this universe
still with no idea who I am, but I felt like,
wow, I must have a connection here. Something's
pulling me somewhere. And the closer I got to
this galaxy, this solar system, this planet,
the more I felt like I had some connection. And
right before I came back into my body, I saw
three series of pictures. One was about everything
we're going through now. All the chaos, extremes,
political. The other was the other side of this
chaos as we get into the age of Aquarius. Because
what we're seeing now is all the holes in the
boat so we can fix them. Hopefully now we're
getting the duct tape to fix it. And that's the
second series of pictures where a beautiful life
in the future, you know, high -tech, beautiful,
mankind's cooled out, no war. I don't know if
that's a dream, but I really think that's where
we're headed. And I don't know if there's a million
people on the planet or 25 billion at that time,
because every day breaking news affects something.
And people ask me, so what did you see? Look
at breaking news every day. But the universe
is showing us our flaws so we can fix them period
period period So we should be grateful that we're
seeing the holes in the boat Then I saw my body
and jump back into my body leap to my feet The
driver was hovering over me terrified. He just
ran into me The car is all banged up people are
screaming hard and I jumped to my feet. I didn't
feel it Not even scratch didn't get hurt You
looked at the car and I looked at the people's
harness. I just wanted to go home. I wasn't hurt.
Couldn't deal with it. This is too heavy. What
I just went through was heaven and back. And
now I got to deal with all this crap. Wait a
minute. So as soon as I started to walk home,
people said, no, stay, man. The cops, the ambulance,
the police, they'll be here in a minute. They
need to clear it up. And I thought, yeah, I don't
want them chasing me through alleys, running
through the city. Like you did something wrong.
Yeah, right, you know, so, okay, I'll wait. I'll
explain it and I'll go home. Good luck. When
they came, they're looking for a bud -spattered
body and there's not one and everybody's pointing
to me because I'm over there talking to all these
people, asking if they saw these monitors and
they just think, man, this guy's completely crazy
because what they saw was someone walking down
the street, running down the street, crying,
screaming, praying, stopping, talking to something
that ain't there. A second later getting hit
by a car and then just jumping up like nothing
happened because that's basically what they saw
and that's basically what happened except for
where I went. They couldn't see that. I've got
a bunch of questions before we move on. Sure,
man. Thank you. That was a good explanation.
Where to start? You talked about this infinite
blue void that you felt like was God or being
with God. What did it feel like? What did it
look like? It looked like infinite blue sky.
In other words, one color, one tone, one infinity,
one infinite mind. But every molecule in that
blue sky was a different possibility. A planet,
a galaxy, a person, a cricket. I didn't know
how to break it all up, but I could see that
there was infinite possibilities. One might think,
yeah, some manifest and some don't. Well, that's
probably true in one way of looking at it. But
everything that ever happens, everything that
manifests is nothing more than infinite mind
seeing itself in different ways. Atoms, molecules,
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I mean we really are part of infinite mind seeing
itself and that's why there's a physical place.
Infinite mind thought well let's go stir up some
stuff. I mean I'm over simplifying it. Chicken,
eggs, what preceded what first, well that's the
sequential. Infinite mind has always been here,
always was. Maybe this universe is only 13 billion
years old but souls aren't. Consciousness, it
always existed. It's just now we're in this galaxy,
in this planet, in this universe. At that point,
what makes you feel like you were with God? Everything.
Were there emotions attached? Fear, happiness,
joy, anything? Oh, ecstasy beyond comprehension.
Beyond what the body and brain can absorb. That's
why people who have NDEs leave their body and
their brain back on the planet. Because it can't
handle that it can't process it your soul can
your higher consciousness can and when you come
back each kind of can put it together as most
people do with any Intense experience in their
life good bad or ugly But yeah, it was a beautiful
beautiful beautiful You said that you learned
about who we are and where we came from. Can
you expound on that? Yeah, it's like every creation
is again nothing more than infinite mind seeing
itself. An infinite mind created all these souls,
created this universe. In fact, our souls, your
soul, my soul, all these souls that come here
helped co -create this universe. We're not just
participants after it got formed. Our consciousness
helped make this planet be where it is. Probably
several other planets throughout the galaxies
I believe there's life in a lot of places. They
ain't like ours. Who says it couldn't be mercury
based instead of carbon based? I mean, it may
sound strange, but maybe they're pressure and
chemistry. Who knows? There's so many possibilities,
but they all manifest by infinite mind seeing
itself, you, me, and so forth. We also get to
experience individuality and choice. So we don't...
feel imprisoned by infinite mind, we're not a
puppet where we're given free will, the most
beautiful gift souls come here with, because
we get to decide how we see everything and interpret
everything, including our situation at all times.
Let's talk about free will for a minute. This
is something that personally I feel like is just
one of those eternal laws of the universe, okay?
It just like gravity or like God or like whatever
terms we want to use. Free will is at the center
of so much of what happens. A lot of people just
don't understand this. Tell me a little bit more
about what you learned about free will. Why did
you just bring that up? I think free will really
occurred to me in its empowerment after my near
-death experience. I was a musician. I started
playing guitar way before The Beatles came out
in 1963. Never thought I'd be a professional
musician. Conscience objector in college after
Vietnam War. I didn't want to serve. I served
as a conscience objector and then started playing
music. It was all defense work. I didn't want
to work in the defense industry. Can you refresh
me on your question? It's about free will. Oh,
free will, yeah. Yeah. I realized at that time
when I saw Infinite Mind, and especially when
I came back as a limited package dual human being,
we all have limitations, that's a big separation
between being part of Infinite Mind, seeing it,
witnessing it, however you want to define it,
however I choose to define it, the essence of
it, with no separation and infinite creativity,
and then being back as human. but pimples and
BOs and limited. So free will to me is the beautiful
gift of the universe to us because we may not
be able to change our situation, our genes, history,
blah, blah, blah, billions of things. But free
will always allows us to change the way we look
at ourselves or the situation or anything because
we get to choose how we look at it. And if you
don't know that, eventually you discover it some
time or another through some lifetime. It's inevitable.
It's inevitable. So yeah, free will gives us
the ability, should we choose to use it, to realize,
okay, I can't change anything up to this second,
so don't drive myself crazy. Number one. Number
two. I'm going to use free will to see how to
get the most mileage out of this particular situation
right here, right now. And worrying and doubting
and being frustrated and looking for a complaint
department and topping out, they ain't going
to solve that problem. The only way to really
solve that problem is free will. Yeah, I'll tackle
it. And part of that is free will to make your
own choices, your own behavior, as well as how
you feel like you were just talking about. How
does that apply to as you put it the universe?
Because I have a lot of people on the show that
well from all walks of life from all religions
and no religions This doesn't come up all that
often, but I think it's such an interesting topic
It's not talked about for example a lot in scripture
And so a lot of people just don't know what to
make of it. You've been out of the body to this
other sphere Give us an idea of how does it apply
there? What do we have choices about? The most
important thing how we see ourselves life this
moment That's the most important thing and that's
the best use of free will because everything
we can't change Everything up to this second
and we're not sure what's happening in five minutes.
We may have the best of plans But we only live
in the here and now so if we start exercising
free will to be empowered here and now Just like
if you practice golf enough, you become a good
golfer. Now if you want to be a golfer and never
go practice, you just have a fantasy, a hope,
and that's fine and dandy, but there's a difference
between wishing you were a golfer and learning
how to swing the club. Free will allows us to
re -adapt, to continue to grow, to learn, to
put everything in a winning learning scenario,
the good, the bad, and the ugly. We can learn
off the home runs. We can learn off the strikeouts.
We can learn off our mistakes. We can learn off
hitting the target. And we can learn from missing
the target how to recalibrate. And I learned,
because I went through so much depression. I'm
bipolar. I've felt that since I was a young teenager.
Finally was clarified in psychiatric hospitals.
But from 1977 forward, I started learning to
be the happiest person on the planet. Because
I recognize free will. Well, I get to look at
things anyway, and why shouldn't I? I just saw
infinite mind. It can look at everything any
way it wants to. Why shouldn't I tap into that
freedom and creativity? Why should I carry this
burden of guilt and shame and iniquity? Why should
anybody? And we do it because we don't think
about letting go, turning on, meditating, asking
the universe to help us. You have to ask the
universe. to help you. You have to ask your guides.
They know the rule. They do not have the right
to come in and just trample all over your free
will. Who are our guides? Or what are our guides?
I saw a group in 1977 that called themselves
the Monitors as I explained, do you trust us,
protect me, took me to heaven and back, brought
me back unscathed, and nine months later explained
to me why. because I was curious now 10 years
ago 12 years ago I started thinking okay because
I talked to those guys a lot but they're not
around they had a specific duty just like everything
in this planet goes from amoeba to to us and
different duties and responsibilities and characteristics
there's just that much on the other side too
if not more it's just not separated and defined
as clearly as it is in time and space But the
essence of everything's on that side, too. So
yeah, free will allows you to readapt, relearn,
change your structure, change the way you look
at the situation, because that's always where
power is. It ain't the situation. It's how you
look at it. And I learned going through so much
depression, and it was intense, to love myself
and to make the best deal out of myself I can.
As a musician, I had a crappy voice. I knew I'd
never get a record deal. I just didn't want to
be an expendable sideman. And I asked my guide
to help me. And long story short, in 1980, I
started teaching myself piano. I was off the
road. Spent four or five years banging on the
piano 12 hours a day. Talked my way into some
piano bars about 84, 85. Not that good of a singer,
not that good of a player. But as you can tell,
Eric, I can talk. I became a good entertainer.
And for the rest of my life, I played solo. It's
what you can do. That's my point. It's what you
can do. That's free will. Cool. All right. I
want to talk more about the accident itself.
Okay. Were you in the street? Were you in a crosswalk?
Where did you get hit? I was pacing down a sidewalk
and there were some cars there and some empty
parking spots. And to be honest with you, I raced
into the street for reasons that would be too
complicated to understand and the car was there
and it hit me. Okay. And I felt from the second
it hit me, I felt outside my body so I never
felt the impact, never felt pain and never even
got a scratch. They couldn't even keep me at
the hospital, emergency room, couldn't keep me
there. I've had other people talk about that
even if they did get hurt. Some people that were
in horrible car accidents, for example, car flew
off a cliff, someone's telling me about this,
and they felt like they left their body prior
to the car smashing into what was below the cliff,
right? Then their body hit, physically died,
were brought back, you know, through doctors
and everything else. So it kind of sounds like
your situation was the same way. Only you were
also spared the pain of all the physical hurt.
None. Didn't feel a thing. It's amazing. Oh,
they couldn't. Doctors, medics, my family, police,
ambulance. They're all wondering, how the hell
are you standing up, man? That car smashed it.
Shit, you know, excuse my French, but it was.
And that was not an issue to me. Not at all.
and they couldn't understand every time they'd
ask me, what happened? And I tried to explain
where I just went, and the week prior, they didn't
want to hear it. Made no sense, and I could understand.
No, and even worse back then. They knew less
about it back then than they know now. How did
this whole thing change your life? You went from
20 -year -old Gary that was doing who knows what
what you do the next day how did this affect
you well i was uh in jail the next day actually
they uh took the emergency room they couldn't
keep me i wasn't hurt they sent a guy in who
was a psychiatrist knew all about him i said
man can i go home nope we can't let you go they
had to get an order of protective custody it
took two days for my brother to sign meanwhile
they took me to jail They stuck me in jail and
all the other prisoners in different cells. I
couldn't quite see them. Asking me how I got
here, what I did. And I said, man, I just jumped
past time and space into infinite mind and came
back and I was hit by a speeding car. I didn't
feel it. What? What law were you accused of breaking?
Assault. Because when I pushed the driver back,
he kept trying to hold me. you're hurt man you're
in shock and just get away you don't know what
i just went through so i tried to push him away
a little bit and he stumbled down and fell down
and then i tried to help him back up i planned
to kind of hug him and kiss him and i think i
did like jesus that blew his mind and he's the
driver of the car and he hit me so he filed charges
to cover his But I didn't even know about these
charges until I was at the hospital and cops
came in. They told me about this. He's filing
charges against you. And when they released me
from the hospital, they took me to jail. Assault
and public lunacy. They can actually arrest people
on public lunacy charges, I guess. I didn't give
a damn. I didn't care. I've been to heaven whatever
you guys got to do, you know call my friend my
brother put me in Just put me in a cell by myself,
please. I don't want to deal with anybody And
like I said when I was in jail, I was talking
to jailers about their cases and their law. They
how do you know that? I knew everything right
then and then another Policeman from the jail
came up and looked in myself said you are not
a lawyer You cannot give these people legal advice.
You either shut up or we're gonna put you in
Solitary confinement and that didn't sound like
fun. So I shut up which was kind of relief Really
because I'd have talked all night. I can talk
as you can tell Okay, so you got out of jail
Then what you had had a lot of depression before?
Well, they took me from jail to a psychiatric
hospital and you were there for a while About
ten days. Yeah. Okay, then what then I got released
And after 10 days, they take you before a board
of psychiatrists and nurses that worked on your
floor and see if you're okay and whether they
should seek another 10 -day mandatory commitment,
because that's what the court ruled, or let me
go. And I told all the psychiatrists, I ain't
changed my story. This is what happened. You
people, psychiatrists, you're doctors. You ought
to be studying this. Look at your name, psychiatrist,
you know. I had a psychic experience. And they
do now. But I don't need those details. I'm curious,
how did your life change over the next few months
and years? What was different about Gary than
before? It took me a while to get back on my
feet. I didn't discuss this with anybody other
than the few people who knew, family, roommates.
It was too overwhelming. And over time, I started
understanding more, and I think I mentioned a
while ago, this happened in February of 1977.
In the fall of 77, the monitors reappeared. I
didn't see them. I felt them. They told me that
I had this experience because of curiosity. So
it started changing from then. I had this feeling
of being the luckiest person on the planet, because
I know these folks exist. I know HireMind exists.
I know we have a connection to it. And that to
me is the most important thing in life because
that's where all our power is. You know, it's
in our mind, our heart, our intentions, our spirit.
So it changed my life in terms of confidence,
in terms of flexibility, creativity. I've conquered
depression. You know, I'm the happiest person
on the planet and I went through hell and I was
bipolar. Still am. But it just doesn't bother
me anymore. I just look at everything from how
much I can learn and benefit rather than how
much it can freak me out. Why go there? That's
free will. You also mentioned to me earlier that
you gained some insight into what's going on
in the world and the future of the world. Would
you like to expound on that for a minute? Yeah,
I just wrote a short paragraph about it in my
book because, as I was telling you, these series
of pictures I saw, When I came back into my body,
I think I mentioned that, correct? Yeah. The
first series of pictures was what's going on
now. I saw 9 -11 and COVID -19, these fractured
societies and people screaming in revolution.
But somewhere in there, and especially due to
the next series of pictures, which are showing
where mankind can and hopefully will evolve toward,
we're just going through the changing of the
seasons, changing the guard. Our systems are
breaking so we can fix them. personally, spiritually,
mentally, physically, you know, globally, politically,
financially, everything's in transition now.
It's not that we're bad people, but we got to
update. Life seems to have a way of kind of just
slapping us into it one way or another. That's
why we're going through these extremes. It's
not in vain. There's a purpose to it. And yet
whenever you go through some extremes, extremes
can be life and death, transformation, but also
revolution, a 180. So I firmly believe that what
we are seeing now is sort of the cleansing, the
education, the showing us the holes in the boat.
But we get to choose by free will, whether to
pay attention and heed the call and benefit and
grow and evolve and learn, or to do none of the
above and look for a complaint department and
feel like life's picking on you. There's not
a whole lot of neutral. That's what I believe.
Interesting insights. Is there any more you can
tell us about what you saw about the future of
mankind? It's hard for me to predict the specifics
because a lot of times I realize things I'd seen
when I see them on TV. Kind of a deja vu sort
of thing. Yeah, but really I saw 9 -11 in 77
but in 2001 I was over in Europe again. I lived
over in the 90s. I was on a boat cruise. and
a guy from Sweden said, man, I was playing there.
He said, I think the US towers just got hit.
I ran down to the basement to the crew TV and
looked in when a second plane went through. I
looked around and these people in these blue
uniforms on a Scandinavian SDFS cruise ship.
I'd seen that exact same picture with those people.
In 1977, I had no idea who it was and all of
a sudden it's right before my eyes. I've seen
several things like that, sort of verifying the
lot of what I saw would come true. And even when
the monitors came back to tell me why I had my
experience and explained to me amount of my curiosity,
they said, you will see a lot of what you've
seen in this lifetime. In my life, I'm 78 now,
so I don't know if I got another month or another
decade. Another decade, I'm not sure about. Or
a couple of decades, it can happen. A couple
of decades. Who knows? I might be the only guy
to live to be 138. Why not? I don't have any
idea when I'm going to pass away. I don't care
about it because on the other side, I know it's
beautiful. And I have a theory if I'm... If it
kills me, I'm in heaven, no problem. If I'm still
here, regardless of the situation and my condition,
I can still grow, evolve, and learn. Period.
That's free will. That's empowerment. No matter
what the situations are. And so I encourage people
to think that way. Give yourself the benefit
of being who you are in the situation of who
you are. Not the detriment, not the fear, not
the doubt. Give yourself a pat on the back. Love
yourself, meditate, ask the universe to help
you, and then don't be surprised if it does.
That's a great wrap up and summary, Gary. Thank
you. If anybody wants to reach out, I'll put
your website down on the show notes so that they
can find you. But Gary Wimmer, appreciate you
being with me today. My honor, thank you for
your time and space. And to all you folks, stay
empowered, believe, think outside the box, get
a bunch of home runs. Why not? Thanks again for
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