From the time that they pronounced me dead was
a good 45 minutes. They cut my clothes and then
they paddled my heart, my heart stopped and I
could see people screaming and crying but I didn't
realize that was actually my physical body because
I was somewhere else. The only thing that I could
feel if you could imagine absolute love and peace,
there wasn't anything else to be felt. I was
greeted by people I'd known in the past. I'm
back home again. Incredibly safe and felt at
home. Welcome, welcome to Round Trip Death, everybody.
And hey, we have a special guest here today,
Connie Fusela. How are you this morning, Connie?
I'm doing great, thanks. You and I have not had
much chance to chat. I usually know somebody's
story from start to finish. before we get to
this point, but that's not the case today. So
I'm going to be as surprised as everybody. So
I'm really looking forward to hearing about your
near -death experiences and what you've done
with them. But first, tell us a little bit about
you. Who's Connie? Sure. So my name is Connie
Fussella. I am an evidential certified psychic
medium. I am certified with both the Forever
Family Foundation, which has been featured on
the Netflix series, Surviving Death, and also
the Helping Parents Heal organization. I have
had three mere death experiences, each of them
different. Each of them were very spiritually
transformative and each of them tried to awaken
my natural born gifts of becoming a psychic medium
to realize my soul's purpose of being that bridge
between the spiritual and physical realms. I'm
also an award -winning author. My book, Shameless
Plug, You Are So Beautiful, a unique perspective
into the soul's quest for its destiny, which
kind of tells my story and talks about solitudes,
and I'm a teacher and public speaker as well.
Man, that is a lot. Try to keep it short. Well,
and by the way, we'll put a link to your site
in the show notes if anybody wants to look you
up or check out your book. But what do you think?
Should we take the NDEs in order from the first
one to the last one? Do you have a preference?
Sounds like a plan, no? Let's jump in. How old
were you when the first one happened? Sure so
the first one i was in my early twenties it was
an allergic reaction to medication actually all
of them were allergic or adverse reactions to
medication. And i ended up in a state of anaphylaxis
and rushed to the hospital and then the next
thing i remember you know i was in this white
space. There were no wall ceilings floors windows
just a vast white space very very bright. I was
sitting in the space with my legs crossed in
front of me. And then all of a sudden I sense
the presence and this non human being very tall.
Walk towards me and place this very big book
on my lap and as i look down at this book pages
were glowing so it was like white space white
everything glowing you know glowing coming out
of the pages. The pages started to turn by themselves
and i could see from the time that i was born
until present day i saw images and people and
felt the emotions that you know i had experience
during those times. So eventually i came came
out of it and. I was discharged the next day
and I went home and I told my mom about this
incredible dream that I had had. And I was describing
for her, you know, the people that I saw, the
images, like, you know, what kind of decorations
were on the table or, you know, paintings on
the wall, very specific details. And I was describing
events that happened like under the age of three
with very good detail. So my mom confirmed all
these events had happened. And so my first near
-death experience was what's termed a life review.
Of course, this was the early, well, actually
mid -80s at the time. So, you know, none of this
was talked about back then. So I had no idea
what happened to me. Again, I just thought it
was a cool dream. Well, I was just going to ask,
would you call it a life review? So thank you
for being ahead of me. I find it interesting,
some of the detail in how people leave. their
body and go to the other side. So let me ask
you a little bit of detail here. With this anaphylaxis,
I can't imagine, I would guess that it's a very
panicky kind of feeling because you get to where
you just can't breathe, right? Did you go from
that to being unconscious and then feeling like
you left your body or were you kind of saved
from having to go through that deep panic? Yeah.
So that's a good question. So I was in that state
of panic while I was at my workplace. And then,
uh, you know, because I could feel my throat
constricting and I was, you know, trying to gasp
for air. And then once the, uh, the paramedics
came, you know, whatever they gave me, you know,
kind of, you know, allowed my breathing to continue
normally, but then I was unconscious and that's,
and then after that, I went into that state.
Okay. Tell me about the life review do you remember
any of the details how you felt what things you
saw yeah so i remember specifically like this
long dining room table with this wooden centerpiece
and like those fake fake fruits like plastic
fruits but i remember that they were sparkly.
there was like a sparkly coating on them and
my mother said that that was like a great aunt
of mine and you know went to her house and you
know strange things like that very vivid details
about you know silly nonsensical things right
but like you know pictures on the wall and just
you know also one of the memories that I saw
was of my grandmother and I was like you know
maybe seven eight months old and she was holding
me up and there was a baby block on the Christmas
tree. You know, with the letters A, B, C, like
an ornament, a baby block, and I was touching
it and my mother was like, yeah, that was the
ornament she bought you when you were born and
she was holding you up to the tree. So, you know,
she was, you know, confirming all of these things
that happened. But I remember feeling, you know,
the love and, you know, of the people that I
interacted with. I, you know, being young at
the time, you know, in my early twenties, I hadn't
had a lot of experiences where I would have felt
sadness or regret or mixed emotions still at
this point in my life. I was, I was pretty blessed.
I would say where, you know, I had good experiences.
So that's, you know, pretty much what I felt.
Yeah. So not much regret or learn from something
that you did to somebody or something like that.
Correct. That's very pleasant. That's nice. Do
you remember the actually coming back into your
body or did you just wake up? I just woke up.
I just woke up. Alright, then you told your mom
all about it. She confirmed things Okay, was
there anything else before we move on to number
two? Well, the thing that started happening is
after this first NDE is I started having frequent
occurrences of sleep paralysis And if anybody
doesn't know what that is it's your kind of trapped
between the dream and wakening stay in your frozen
you can't move you can't scream and it can be
terrifying you can be like a very you know terrifying
sensation but for me these all came with a similar
format and that i would be laying in my bed on
my back and then all of a sudden this would come
over me and i would hear this. like white humming
vibration sound, like white noise kind of sensation
fill, you know, my head. And then I would see
myself come out of my body in spirit form and
try to lift myself up. And all the while I kept
hearing this voice repeating over and over again.
You need to raise yourself up. You need to raise
yourself up. You need to raise yourself up. It
just kept repeating. And then of course i come
out of it and i think to myself yeah you know
i need to raise myself up i can't move i need
to get out of bed and this is what i'm thinking
and i never understood it until many many many
years later probably over twenty something years
later when i became a medium because as a medium
you have to raise yourself up your vibration
your energy to communicate to the other side.
I probably should have prefaced with, I was a
natural, I am a natural born medium and I had
awareness of spirit at the age of four. But then
I forgot who I was. So these near death experiences
were trying to wake me up. And what these sleep
paralysis episodes, it was like the other side,
my team of light were literally giving me the
keys to the afterlife. Like, you know, Connie,
all you have to do is raise your vibration and
be able to connect again, right? But I had no
idea because I didn't come. from a background
of, you know, psychics or mediums or anything
metaphysical. So this did not resonate with me.
So it fell on deaf ears. And so a couple of years
later, near -death experience number two happens.
This one was more medically intensive, another
allergic reaction to medication or adverse, you
know, reaction actually. And what was happening
is that my heart was was beating really fast
and i was sweaty and i just felt awful and i
was working in new york city at the time and
when i got to my place you know in my office
my co -workers said oh my gosh you look awful
like i don't feel well at all and she called
the manager who made the decision to get me to
a hospital. Luckily, he had on -call car service
because in Midtown Manhattan in the morning,
it probably would have been very difficult for
the ambulance to get to me. So there was car
service right outside the building. They literally
wheeled me in my office chair, pushed me down
the elevator, out to the sidewalk, into the car,
and there I went to the hospital. I remember
being wheeled out of the hospital and emergency
personnel coming with a stretcher and getting
transferred to the stretcher. Into the hospital
and then you know of course it to the emergency
room where you know just hear all beeping and
noises and people talking and then the next thing
i remember is i'm floating on the ceiling and
i'm looking down at my body on the stretcher
watching the you know doctor and emergency personnel
work on me. And as i'm watching i see the doctor
grab the defibrillators. put them on me and I
see my body like jumping, you know, off the stretcher.
And then all of a sudden I find myself in a tunnel.
It was a very, very bright tunnel. I describe
it as if anybody's had a closed MRI. That's about
the size that I felt I was in, you know, this
tunnel. I would describe the sensation of moving
through it i was on my back feet first as if
any if anybody's ever bet on a simulation ride
like a disney you know where you're kind of going
fast but slow at the same time so that's what
it felt like and it was just these bright lights
all around me and i remember thinking like i
was excited and then again i heard that bright.
You know that sound that humming vibration sound
and I could see the light really bright at the
you know towards the end of the tunnel i'm going
towards and i'm excited i feel like i'm going
home i'm really looking forward to this as i
get to the end my feet touch the end of the tunnel
where the lights the brightest and they sink
into this light it was almost like is if your
feet went into jello is how i would describe
it. and I call that the glow. So my feet went
into that glow and then all of a sudden it was
like, the only way I could describe it is it's
something that you literally would see in a movie.
Like I was in the space and it was like zip,
you know, something you'd see like in a space
movie or something. I was like pulled right out
like back. And that's when I woke up. And of
course I'm in the hospital room and I have no
idea what happened to me and my, my wrists are
all bandaged and because they were testing for
arterial blood gases. So I'm like, what the heck
happened to me, right? And the doctors told me
I had gone into ventricular cardiac arrest. I
was very fortunate that they, you know, that
I got to the hospital in time. I think you ought
to be glad that that time you were out of your
body when they were hitting you with a defibrillator.
Yeah, it didn't look pleasant. No. You know,
not everybody has an experience going through
a tunnel and everybody that does describes it
completely differently. What do you make of that?
Why do you think it's different for everybody?
a lot of it has to do with people's perception.
Honestly, I think people's acceptance of what's
going on and maybe even some religious beliefs
that maybe factor into it. I haven't studied
a lot of what other people experience. I know
there's like a tunnel. I know some people describe
it as vast. I felt it as a smaller space for
me, but I really feel it has to do with how people
maybe perceive or against their sense of faith.
I don't know. I always had a strong sense of
faith. I was raised Catholic. I always believed
there was an afterlife, a heaven or something.
And I don't know if that made a difference. But
you know, I know for sure as I was going through
this, I didn't sense any fear at all. In fact,
I was looking forward to it's nothing but joy
and love and light. And I was looking forward
to getting work wherever I was going. So it's
almost like you Got their incomes came straight
back before you had a chance to really experience
it is that how you felt yes yes. Yeah, did you
feel a little bit robbed as a whole thing? You
know, again, now I still didn't realize that
this was an NDE, right? I'm still thinking, oh,
another cool dream under, you know, the effects
of medication. But they made up for it with my
third near -death experience because I did get
to visit the other side. So they did give me
a chance. All right. We've been putting off saving
the best for last. Go ahead and jump into number
three. Yeah. So what happened, you know, just
that I should also say right after the second
one, something changed in me and that as I was
commuting, I had a two hour commute. It was pretty
miserable from upstate New York to New York city
at the time. So I had gone back to work after
a few weeks of recuperating. But as I came close
to people, whether it was sitting on the train
or taking a bus or walking next to them, I started
to hear names and I started to get little visions.
So now, you know, I'm starting to remember that
this happened, you know, when I was a child,
right? So things are starting to come back to
me and I'm like, what is going on? So of course
I had to try to find a way to figure out what
this was without coming across as a really, a
weirdo, right? So I would, you know, if I sat
next to somebody and I hear Frank, Frank, like
this name, I'd say to them, it was a male. I'd
say, oh, is she? Frank, you look very familiar,
you know? And they would say no. Then they would
say, oh, but my dad's name was Frank and he's
passed. So things like this was happening where
I see a vision and it would be like somehow whatever
I saw the name would either be like a restaurant
or they go to our own or street they lived out
there was some correlation to the person sitting
next to me so this was happening okay after the
second near -death experience and also let me
one day to randomly walk in a different direction
on my lunch hour to a psychic shop. Where i started
going for readings because i was drawn to it
and in nineteen ninety one i bought my first
deck of tarot cards from this place yeah so then
what happened is is i get the tarot cards i hope
you know read the meaning nothing resonates with
me. Which is strange and i put them away and
i don't touch them for over ten years okay so
they're in the bottom of a box in my closet.
During those 10 years a lot was going on with
me I had to do a lot of soul Evolution and it's
things that I write about in my book There's
different levels of soul progression that I had
to move through To find myself again and my soul
street purpose. So this entailed getting rid
of people getting rid of negative things negative
people negative places so ten years of this this
is what i was doing during those ten years i
wasn't hearing or seeing anything because i was
closed off from it. because of this negativity
that was around me. So after I made changes,
my third near -death experience happens. And
this is in the form of, well, it was a reaction
after surgery and medication. Again, another
adverse reaction to medication and the anesthesia
and all of that. And then all of a sudden, as
I'm laying there recuperating in bed, I find
myself in the space of rolling beautiful clouds.
And as the clouds kind of part, then I'm in this
beautiful meadow, golden sun and beautiful flowers
and green grass. It's just lush. It's beautiful.
vibrant and then these little children running
towards me like kindergarten age and they grab
my hands on either side and we start singing
and dancing in a circle kind of like a ring around
the rosy type of situation and we're singing
this song that i know but it's not in any earthbound
language okay but i know it. and I'm singing
and I'm so happy and I'm joyful and so this goes
on for a bit and then the children stop suddenly
and they kind of part and on either side of me
and they look you know in front of them and I
see a man walking towards us and to me this man
it all respects from my Catholic upbringing every
picture that I've seen looks exactly as I would
picture Jesus and I know him on a soul level
as Jesus okay. And so he comes up to me, he says,
do you like it here? And I say, of course, I
love it here. But then at this point in my life,
I now a single mom with two young boys under
the age of two, I'm sorry, under the age of six.
And so I look around and I say, but where are
my children? Jesus says, well, it's not their
time yet. And I'm like, okay. And so the little
children that are around me grab my hands and
then we do some more singing and dancing, right?
And then they stop again and Jesus looks at me
again. And the one thing that stands out about
this NDE that was so impactful for me is the
way that Jesus looked at me because his eyes
changed colors like the ocean. So they were like
green and gold and blue and brown and they were
like moving. And when he looked at me, it wasn't
like he was looking at me or through me. It was
like I knew he knew me, all of me, this life,
past lives, future lives. Like he knew all of
me and I was loved and I was accepted. And it
was such an incredible feeling to feel that,
like just kind of emanate and fill me. But he
asked me again, do you like it here? And of course
again said, yeah, I love it here, but where are
my children? And he said, it's not their time
and it's not your time either. You have yet to
become who you were meant to be. And with that,
I wake up thinking, yeah, another cool dream.
And who am I supposed to be? What does that mean?
Wow. Can you describe the children any more than
that? They were very, I guess the word I would
use is like sort of rosy cherub looking. They
were like, you know, beautiful pink, soft skin,
rosy cheeks, their eyes, you know, bright and
glowing. And most of them for some reason had
like curly hair. That's what I remember. They
had like some wave or curl to the hair, full
hair, right? They were just. grinning happy.
I wouldn't say, I don't want to say chubby, but
they were, you know, meaty, I guess is a good
word, right? They weren't little thin scrawny
kids. They were, they were, you know, they would
just were like, you just want to like squeeze.
Yeah. Really adorable, cute kids. Well, and you
mentioned that you recognize Jesus immediately
because he, what he looked like the pictures
you had grown up with in church. Absolutely.
Yep. Absolutely yep. And you described his eyes
which was really interesting but how did you
feel around him i just was filled with love and
enjoy like i can't. I can't really you can't
really put words to the the feeling because it's
um it's complete it's whole it's safe it's it's
light I guess um it's it just was an incredible
feeling I've never felt anything like that since
I mean it's it's uh I really you can't put words
to that feeling it just just filled your whole
being with just like lightness like as if you
could just float you felt so light What else
did you experience there that you haven't told
me yet? I also felt when I was there, it was
interesting because he kept asking, do you like
it here? And I kept answering, yes. And I knew
somehow that I was going to come here again.
And I knew somehow that after this experience,
when he said you have yet to become who you were
meant to be, I knew that I was going to find
out what that meant. And I knew that I had like
a long journey ahead of me to make it happen.
But it was interesting because I remember that
feeling. But then I remember when I woke up,
I was like, well, I really didn't know on a human
level when I woke up, like who I was supposed
to be. But I remember feeling on a soul level,
I'm going to remember. I'm going to remember.
If that makes any sense. Yeah. So what did you
have to do to remember and to figure out what
you were supposed to be? So a few weeks after
this, you know, NDE, I got a random call from
a lady that was coordinating a psychic fair in
South Florida. And she was short some readers
and she wanted to know if I would be a tarot
card reader at this fair. Now, I don't know how
she got my name, my number. I have never done
readings. Okay. But I said, hold on a second,
and I ran to my bedroom. Now, this is over 10
years later since I bought that deck of tarot
cards in 1991 from that psychic shop in New York
City. But I still had that box in my closet after
moving several times. And I went through that
box. And of course, there's the tarot cards there
at the bottom. And I ran back to the phone and
I said, yes, I'll do it. So this was a Thursday
afternoon and the fair was Saturday afternoon.
Saturday morning rolls around and it was like
reality just sunk in and hit me like wham, right?
And I said to myself, oh my God, what are you
thinking? What are you doing? Like, how are you
going to go do these readings? You've never done
a reading. I have no idea what the cards mean.
I don't know what I'm going to do. Anybody that
knows me, I never stand anybody up. Okay, if
I commit to something, I'm gonna come to that
unless there's something, you know, really life
-threatening that's keeping me from doing it.
So my plan was is I would show up and tell this
lady, I can't do readings, but I'll help you,
I'll greet you. customers, I'll, you know, serve
coffee, I'll do something. So this was my plan.
So I show up there. She's very frazzled. She
like drags me down this long corridor. This is
your place. This is your table, two chairs, blah,
blah, blah, blah. And I said, hold on, sorry,
I have to tell you something. I'm not going to
be able to do this. I'm very sorry." And she
cut me right off. She said, no, I'm sure I need
you to do reading. She said you would. And she
was like really agitated. I was kind of a little
afraid. So I said, okay, okay, okay. So I sat
there praying that nobody would show up. And
then about 15 minutes or so later, a lady showed
up in her mid fifties. And she wanted a reading.
So I said, okay, I don't know what I'm doing.
I grabbed those cards and so they pulled them
pulled out one time, right? And so it was painful
because she sees me struggling to get the cards.
It's a new card deck, right? And so she's already
kind of like, I don't know about this one. So
I start putting the cards down nervously in this
big circle. And I don't know what I'm doing.
I see the space in the middle. I put some more
in the middle and I keep going, going, going.
And I use all 76 cards without saying a word.
So she says are you ever gonna say anything?
So I was so nervous. I was nauseous I was sweating
so I just looked down at this mess that I made
on the table and then all of a sudden The strangest
thing happened. It was like a pulse of electricity
came into the top of my head and just like Reverberated
through my body and when I looked down at the
cards, it was all these like pictures. It's all
I saw I just started talking and i said to her
there's something about like a secret of family
secret that was kept hidden for many years that
just you know came out in the open it has to
do with somebody passing and then i see something
about legal papers communication from a lawyer
and then there's a trip to a foreign country
into the. two weeks, two months, and then there's
all this money that comes to you, this big windfall
of money. Do you understand any of this? So the
lady says, I just found out a few weeks ago that
I was adopted because my biological father who
lives in Europe passed away and his attorney
contacted me because I'm the sole beneficiary
to his estate and I'm leaving in two weeks to
collect my vast inheritance. So somehow I knew
things without knowing how I knew them just by
looking at those cards. I don't know, didn't
know the meanings of the cards, anything. And
that's how it started. Yeah, so let me ask you
this. So a lot of people come back after their
NDEs with some kind of what I like to call spiritual
gifts. And you've heard about these and they're
like what you experienced. There's all kinds
of other things. Even some like I've met with
some people that could read the thoughts of animals.
You know, there's all kinds of different gifts.
I guess the question that I'm getting at is for
someone who's had an NDE and feels like there
is something, there's some kind of a gift I have
that I am different with now, but they can't
figure it out. They can't really find it. What
advice do you have for them? Yeah, that's a good
question. You need to quiet your mind, number
one, right? Because what happens is, and this
what happened to me, I saw spirit and I heard
spirit at the age of four, but of course I didn't
understand it. Then, you know, go through life,
your analytical mind takes over, things happen,
you know, you go through jobs, children, helping
with parents, all this kind of stuff, right?
And we get distracted. So I feel that, you know,
you have to... Do what i call spiritual hygiene
alright and take time for yourself take time
to quiet your mind whether it's just you know
sitting quietly meditating reading a book walking
in nature yoga painting something listening to
music but take time to get in touch with your
own true self with your soul. Okay, and then
just sit there in the quiet because it's in the
quiet that you're going to get the answers and
even if you can't meditate It's very strange.
I admit it. I can't meditate I'm a medium and
I can't meditate my mind goes a hundred miles
an hour So I listen to upbeat music upbeat music
does it for me because I just lose myself I have
to just get out of my you know, all my groceries
my dogs, right? I have to get out of that So
you have to find something that just takes you
out of everyday life and lets you relax and then
put your intentions out there. What am I supposed
to do? What do you want me to do? You know, what
direction do I need to go in? And just wait and
listen for the answers. I don't know if it's
that easy for everybody to just listen for the
answers, but it sounds like at some point you're
gonna feel directed and you need to take that
flying leap. You went ahead and dealt those cards.
Right. Even though you had no idea what was going
to happen next. Right. And I was pushed. I was,
you know, a little lined up, even though I was
like, I tried to get out of it. Right. And it
just, it just lined up and it will line up for
you. You know you're in the right place the right
time and of course everybody has work to do and
that's what i read about in my book i talk about
the soul levels that people get trapped in and
they're called solitude there's five of them
and so i use my life is an example how i came
into this world in the clear solitude meaning
i was communicating with spirit at the age of
four that's what i was always meant to do but
then i forgot. who I was. And I had to go through
all these different levels, the confused, the
compromised, the closed. There's five different
categories till I got back to clear again, which
is the goal as we take our human bodies, right?
Our soul knows what our true purpose is, but
then as a human, we get led astray. So there's
all these things that happen in people's lives.
And I always say, you know, you've heard this,
this saying lessons are often blessings. We don't
see it at the moment, but it just may be the
universe, your team on the other side. by giving
you a nudge to go in a different direction. So
pay attention. Sometimes it's so easy. It simply
is, is what brings you joy? Because on some level
your soul knows what brings you joy. People like
always ask me like, can you tell me what my soul's
purpose is? Well, nobody can tell you, you have
to find that out yourself, right? But. Don't
over complicate it. Don't think that you had
to come in to be like a neurosurgeon or something
Maybe your soul's purpose in this lifetime was
to be a mother Maybe your soul's purpose was
to rescue a dog. It can be so simple like that
because maybe in past lives You never had pets
maybe in past lives. You didn't have children
So it could be so simple, but people do tend
to over complicate it I think for all of us part
of our purpose is to find joy Period. That's
what eternity is all about. We should be able
to find a measure of that here as well. Speaking
of eternity, from all of these experiences put
together and the time that you've had to digest
them, what have you learned or think you know
now about the afterlife, about more than just
what happens here on earth? One, it's interesting
because I felt a little bit as a fraud, I guess
I'll put it, as a medium because I was very qualified
medium doing very highly evidential readings,
but I hadn't lost anybody yet. that was close
to me. So I didn't experience that grief, right?
And that, you know, like, oh my gosh, what happens?
And then I lost my dad. And so even at that point,
my readings just went like the quality just went
way up because that missing piece had to come
into me for me to kind of feel all sides of it,
right? But what I know from my near death experiences
and being able to communicate with the other
side is that love never dies. Number one, it's
eternal. People i would say you know when i lost
my dad not that it was easy but i knew where
he was going what he was going to feel and that
made it so much easier for me to deal with because
i think about if people don't believe in an afterlife
right or you know if i go back to my catholic
upbringing right and i say okay alright my dad's
past okay he's up there with the angels having
a good time that's all great for him but what
does that do for me. All i have is pictures here
and memories i don't. Have any way to communicate
with him or feel his right right if i'm going
by my the way that i was raised but now knowing
you know that there is an afterlife they send
a sign state communicate like goes on that this
here. On Earth, it's just a school, it's just
a learning program for us that life goes on.
And having beautiful experiences, even though
medically they were issues, but I never felt
anything but light and love and peace and joy.
I would tell anyone, keep the faith. You're just
here temporary and this is nothing compared to
the many lives you're going to have after this.
That's such a beautiful wrap up i don't even
know where to go from here but to say thank you
connie you're welcome is my pleasure. Before
we do wrap up, is there anything else that you
think would be important to talk about to our
audience? Try not to look too hard for solutions
and let them come organically or naturally and
just pay attention. Pay attention to the people
that come into your life, the circumstances that
happen. Again, you may have had some hard times,
but where did you end up? Try to piece that together
and I think that if you do that, you'll look
back and you'll have a better understanding and
maybe a better appreciation of things that happened
in your life and realize, okay, that's why that
happened because now I'm this person now. This
changed me. This influenced me or this person
influenced me. So really just take the time.
They could be maybe insignificant events that
you thought at the time, but they probably were
very impactful if you reflect on them. I like
it. Thank you. All right, if anybody wants to
get a hold of Connie, it's meaningful messages
dot info and it will there will be a link down
in the show notes to make it easy for you. But
thanks again, Connie. Appreciate your time today.
You're welcome, Eric. It's been a pleasure. Thanks
again for listening and sharing this podcast.
Don't forget to hit the follow or subscribe button
and sign up for our newsletter at roundtripdeath
.com. If you want to share your near -death experience,
or if you have questions or comments about the
show, send an email to eric at roundtripdeath
.com. Until then, I wish you everything good
that you're looking for in this life and the
next.