WEBVTT 00:00:03.719 --> 00:00:06.719 From the time that they pronounced me dead was 00:00:06.719 --> 00:00:10.220 a good 45 minutes. They cut my clothes and then 00:00:10.220 --> 00:00:13.560 they paddled my heart, my heart stopped and I 00:00:13.560 --> 00:00:17.100 could see people screaming and crying but I didn't 00:00:17.100 --> 00:00:19.480 realize that was actually my physical body because 00:00:19.480 --> 00:00:22.800 I was somewhere else. The only thing that I could 00:00:22.800 --> 00:00:26.800 feel if you could imagine absolute love and peace, 00:00:27.019 --> 00:00:29.839 there wasn't anything else to be felt. I was 00:00:29.839 --> 00:00:32.840 greeted by people I'd known in the past. I'm 00:00:32.840 --> 00:00:36.219 back home again. Incredibly safe and felt at 00:00:36.219 --> 00:00:41.159 home. Welcome, welcome to Round Trip Death, everybody. 00:00:41.380 --> 00:00:43.659 And hey, we have a special guest here today, 00:00:44.179 --> 00:00:45.939 Connie Fusela. How are you this morning, Connie? 00:00:46.700 --> 00:00:49.960 I'm doing great, thanks. You and I have not had 00:00:49.960 --> 00:00:53.859 much chance to chat. I usually know somebody's 00:00:53.859 --> 00:00:56.899 story from start to finish. before we get to 00:00:56.899 --> 00:00:59.340 this point, but that's not the case today. So 00:00:59.340 --> 00:01:01.640 I'm going to be as surprised as everybody. So 00:01:01.640 --> 00:01:04.420 I'm really looking forward to hearing about your 00:01:04.420 --> 00:01:06.760 near -death experiences and what you've done 00:01:06.760 --> 00:01:09.680 with them. But first, tell us a little bit about 00:01:09.680 --> 00:01:12.859 you. Who's Connie? Sure. So my name is Connie 00:01:12.859 --> 00:01:17.140 Fussella. I am an evidential certified psychic 00:01:17.140 --> 00:01:20.420 medium. I am certified with both the Forever 00:01:20.420 --> 00:01:23.019 Family Foundation, which has been featured on 00:01:23.019 --> 00:01:26.159 the Netflix series, Surviving Death, and also 00:01:26.159 --> 00:01:29.280 the Helping Parents Heal organization. I have 00:01:29.280 --> 00:01:32.459 had three mere death experiences, each of them 00:01:32.459 --> 00:01:35.840 different. Each of them were very spiritually 00:01:35.840 --> 00:01:39.439 transformative and each of them tried to awaken 00:01:39.439 --> 00:01:43.079 my natural born gifts of becoming a psychic medium 00:01:43.079 --> 00:01:46.120 to realize my soul's purpose of being that bridge 00:01:46.120 --> 00:01:49.480 between the spiritual and physical realms. I'm 00:01:49.480 --> 00:01:51.959 also an award -winning author. My book, Shameless 00:01:51.959 --> 00:01:54.840 Plug, You Are So Beautiful, a unique perspective 00:01:54.840 --> 00:01:57.359 into the soul's quest for its destiny, which 00:01:57.359 --> 00:02:00.140 kind of tells my story and talks about solitudes, 00:02:00.280 --> 00:02:02.659 and I'm a teacher and public speaker as well. 00:02:03.550 --> 00:02:08.110 Man, that is a lot. Try to keep it short. Well, 00:02:08.129 --> 00:02:09.909 and by the way, we'll put a link to your site 00:02:09.909 --> 00:02:12.030 in the show notes if anybody wants to look you 00:02:12.030 --> 00:02:14.789 up or check out your book. But what do you think? 00:02:15.210 --> 00:02:17.550 Should we take the NDEs in order from the first 00:02:17.550 --> 00:02:19.310 one to the last one? Do you have a preference? 00:02:19.710 --> 00:02:22.870 Sounds like a plan, no? Let's jump in. How old 00:02:22.870 --> 00:02:25.389 were you when the first one happened? Sure so 00:02:25.389 --> 00:02:28.849 the first one i was in my early twenties it was 00:02:28.849 --> 00:02:31.750 an allergic reaction to medication actually all 00:02:31.750 --> 00:02:34.310 of them were allergic or adverse reactions to 00:02:34.310 --> 00:02:38.689 medication. And i ended up in a state of anaphylaxis 00:02:38.689 --> 00:02:41.710 and rushed to the hospital and then the next 00:02:41.710 --> 00:02:45.810 thing i remember you know i was in this white 00:02:45.810 --> 00:02:50.229 space. There were no wall ceilings floors windows 00:02:50.229 --> 00:02:55.409 just a vast white space very very bright. I was 00:02:55.409 --> 00:02:57.870 sitting in the space with my legs crossed in 00:02:57.870 --> 00:03:00.849 front of me. And then all of a sudden I sense 00:03:00.849 --> 00:03:05.009 the presence and this non human being very tall. 00:03:05.280 --> 00:03:09.020 Walk towards me and place this very big book 00:03:09.020 --> 00:03:13.280 on my lap and as i look down at this book pages 00:03:13.280 --> 00:03:16.159 were glowing so it was like white space white 00:03:16.159 --> 00:03:18.639 everything glowing you know glowing coming out 00:03:18.639 --> 00:03:22.340 of the pages. The pages started to turn by themselves 00:03:22.340 --> 00:03:25.500 and i could see from the time that i was born 00:03:25.500 --> 00:03:29.560 until present day i saw images and people and 00:03:29.560 --> 00:03:32.560 felt the emotions that you know i had experience 00:03:32.560 --> 00:03:36.400 during those times. So eventually i came came 00:03:36.400 --> 00:03:39.879 out of it and. I was discharged the next day 00:03:39.879 --> 00:03:43.340 and I went home and I told my mom about this 00:03:43.340 --> 00:03:46.719 incredible dream that I had had. And I was describing 00:03:46.719 --> 00:03:49.259 for her, you know, the people that I saw, the 00:03:49.259 --> 00:03:51.960 images, like, you know, what kind of decorations 00:03:51.960 --> 00:03:54.580 were on the table or, you know, paintings on 00:03:54.580 --> 00:03:57.960 the wall, very specific details. And I was describing 00:03:57.960 --> 00:04:00.500 events that happened like under the age of three 00:04:00.500 --> 00:04:03.520 with very good detail. So my mom confirmed all 00:04:03.520 --> 00:04:07.280 these events had happened. And so my first near 00:04:07.280 --> 00:04:11.039 -death experience was what's termed a life review. 00:04:11.360 --> 00:04:14.259 Of course, this was the early, well, actually 00:04:14.259 --> 00:04:17.579 mid -80s at the time. So, you know, none of this 00:04:17.579 --> 00:04:20.759 was talked about back then. So I had no idea 00:04:20.759 --> 00:04:22.680 what happened to me. Again, I just thought it 00:04:22.680 --> 00:04:25.879 was a cool dream. Well, I was just going to ask, 00:04:25.939 --> 00:04:28.879 would you call it a life review? So thank you 00:04:28.879 --> 00:04:32.259 for being ahead of me. I find it interesting, 00:04:32.620 --> 00:04:37.149 some of the detail in how people leave. their 00:04:37.149 --> 00:04:39.610 body and go to the other side. So let me ask 00:04:39.610 --> 00:04:43.149 you a little bit of detail here. With this anaphylaxis, 00:04:43.550 --> 00:04:47.149 I can't imagine, I would guess that it's a very 00:04:47.149 --> 00:04:49.870 panicky kind of feeling because you get to where 00:04:49.870 --> 00:04:53.430 you just can't breathe, right? Did you go from 00:04:53.430 --> 00:04:57.329 that to being unconscious and then feeling like 00:04:57.329 --> 00:05:01.009 you left your body or were you kind of saved 00:05:01.009 --> 00:05:04.930 from having to go through that deep panic? Yeah. 00:05:04.930 --> 00:05:07.769 So that's a good question. So I was in that state 00:05:07.769 --> 00:05:11.149 of panic while I was at my workplace. And then, 00:05:11.149 --> 00:05:13.069 uh, you know, because I could feel my throat 00:05:13.069 --> 00:05:15.730 constricting and I was, you know, trying to gasp 00:05:15.730 --> 00:05:18.990 for air. And then once the, uh, the paramedics 00:05:18.990 --> 00:05:21.490 came, you know, whatever they gave me, you know, 00:05:21.610 --> 00:05:24.370 kind of, you know, allowed my breathing to continue 00:05:24.370 --> 00:05:27.430 normally, but then I was unconscious and that's, 00:05:27.490 --> 00:05:29.589 and then after that, I went into that state. 00:05:30.110 --> 00:05:33.079 Okay. Tell me about the life review do you remember 00:05:33.079 --> 00:05:36.019 any of the details how you felt what things you 00:05:36.019 --> 00:05:39.839 saw yeah so i remember specifically like this 00:05:39.839 --> 00:05:43.879 long dining room table with this wooden centerpiece 00:05:43.879 --> 00:05:46.899 and like those fake fake fruits like plastic 00:05:46.899 --> 00:05:50.100 fruits but i remember that they were sparkly. 00:05:50.250 --> 00:05:53.029 there was like a sparkly coating on them and 00:05:53.029 --> 00:05:55.610 my mother said that that was like a great aunt 00:05:55.610 --> 00:05:58.430 of mine and you know went to her house and you 00:05:58.430 --> 00:06:01.089 know strange things like that very vivid details 00:06:01.089 --> 00:06:04.449 about you know silly nonsensical things right 00:06:04.449 --> 00:06:07.970 but like you know pictures on the wall and just 00:06:07.970 --> 00:06:10.949 you know also one of the memories that I saw 00:06:10.949 --> 00:06:13.689 was of my grandmother and I was like you know 00:06:13.689 --> 00:06:15.910 maybe seven eight months old and she was holding 00:06:15.910 --> 00:06:19.490 me up and there was a baby block on the Christmas 00:06:19.490 --> 00:06:22.290 tree. You know, with the letters A, B, C, like 00:06:22.290 --> 00:06:24.709 an ornament, a baby block, and I was touching 00:06:24.709 --> 00:06:27.470 it and my mother was like, yeah, that was the 00:06:27.470 --> 00:06:29.970 ornament she bought you when you were born and 00:06:29.970 --> 00:06:32.170 she was holding you up to the tree. So, you know, 00:06:32.170 --> 00:06:34.589 she was, you know, confirming all of these things 00:06:34.589 --> 00:06:37.230 that happened. But I remember feeling, you know, 00:06:37.350 --> 00:06:40.050 the love and, you know, of the people that I 00:06:40.050 --> 00:06:42.709 interacted with. I, you know, being young at 00:06:42.709 --> 00:06:46.129 the time, you know, in my early twenties, I hadn't 00:06:46.129 --> 00:06:49.790 had a lot of experiences where I would have felt 00:06:49.949 --> 00:06:53.790 sadness or regret or mixed emotions still at 00:06:53.790 --> 00:06:56.170 this point in my life. I was, I was pretty blessed. 00:06:56.170 --> 00:06:58.689 I would say where, you know, I had good experiences. 00:06:58.689 --> 00:07:01.389 So that's, you know, pretty much what I felt. 00:07:02.250 --> 00:07:06.790 Yeah. So not much regret or learn from something 00:07:06.790 --> 00:07:09.250 that you did to somebody or something like that. 00:07:09.250 --> 00:07:12.769 Correct. That's very pleasant. That's nice. Do 00:07:12.769 --> 00:07:14.949 you remember the actually coming back into your 00:07:14.949 --> 00:07:18.410 body or did you just wake up? I just woke up. 00:07:18.410 --> 00:07:21.529 I just woke up. Alright, then you told your mom 00:07:21.529 --> 00:07:24.949 all about it. She confirmed things Okay, was 00:07:24.949 --> 00:07:27.009 there anything else before we move on to number 00:07:27.009 --> 00:07:30.209 two? Well, the thing that started happening is 00:07:30.209 --> 00:07:35.189 after this first NDE is I started having frequent 00:07:35.189 --> 00:07:39.560 occurrences of sleep paralysis And if anybody 00:07:39.560 --> 00:07:41.899 doesn't know what that is it's your kind of trapped 00:07:41.899 --> 00:07:44.680 between the dream and wakening stay in your frozen 00:07:44.680 --> 00:07:46.860 you can't move you can't scream and it can be 00:07:46.860 --> 00:07:49.779 terrifying you can be like a very you know terrifying 00:07:49.779 --> 00:07:53.560 sensation but for me these all came with a similar 00:07:53.560 --> 00:07:56.920 format and that i would be laying in my bed on 00:07:56.920 --> 00:07:59.699 my back and then all of a sudden this would come 00:07:59.699 --> 00:08:03.420 over me and i would hear this. like white humming 00:08:03.420 --> 00:08:07.100 vibration sound, like white noise kind of sensation 00:08:07.100 --> 00:08:09.959 fill, you know, my head. And then I would see 00:08:09.959 --> 00:08:14.519 myself come out of my body in spirit form and 00:08:14.519 --> 00:08:18.720 try to lift myself up. And all the while I kept 00:08:18.720 --> 00:08:22.439 hearing this voice repeating over and over again. 00:08:22.680 --> 00:08:25.980 You need to raise yourself up. You need to raise 00:08:25.980 --> 00:08:28.939 yourself up. You need to raise yourself up. It 00:08:28.939 --> 00:08:31.550 just kept repeating. And then of course i come 00:08:31.550 --> 00:08:34.289 out of it and i think to myself yeah you know 00:08:34.289 --> 00:08:36.309 i need to raise myself up i can't move i need 00:08:36.309 --> 00:08:38.370 to get out of bed and this is what i'm thinking 00:08:38.370 --> 00:08:43.250 and i never understood it until many many many 00:08:43.250 --> 00:08:46.309 years later probably over twenty something years 00:08:46.309 --> 00:08:50.529 later when i became a medium because as a medium 00:08:50.529 --> 00:08:53.789 you have to raise yourself up your vibration 00:08:53.789 --> 00:08:57.509 your energy to communicate to the other side. 00:08:57.879 --> 00:09:00.500 I probably should have prefaced with, I was a 00:09:00.500 --> 00:09:02.899 natural, I am a natural born medium and I had 00:09:02.899 --> 00:09:05.919 awareness of spirit at the age of four. But then 00:09:05.919 --> 00:09:09.179 I forgot who I was. So these near death experiences 00:09:09.179 --> 00:09:12.679 were trying to wake me up. And what these sleep 00:09:12.679 --> 00:09:15.360 paralysis episodes, it was like the other side, 00:09:15.559 --> 00:09:18.200 my team of light were literally giving me the 00:09:18.200 --> 00:09:20.460 keys to the afterlife. Like, you know, Connie, 00:09:20.559 --> 00:09:23.320 all you have to do is raise your vibration and 00:09:23.320 --> 00:09:25.840 be able to connect again, right? But I had no 00:09:25.840 --> 00:09:28.610 idea because I didn't come. from a background 00:09:28.610 --> 00:09:31.789 of, you know, psychics or mediums or anything 00:09:31.789 --> 00:09:35.210 metaphysical. So this did not resonate with me. 00:09:35.230 --> 00:09:38.509 So it fell on deaf ears. And so a couple of years 00:09:38.509 --> 00:09:41.990 later, near -death experience number two happens. 00:09:42.750 --> 00:09:45.769 This one was more medically intensive, another 00:09:45.769 --> 00:09:49.309 allergic reaction to medication or adverse, you 00:09:49.309 --> 00:09:52.379 know, reaction actually. And what was happening 00:09:52.379 --> 00:09:55.679 is that my heart was was beating really fast 00:09:55.679 --> 00:09:59.460 and i was sweaty and i just felt awful and i 00:09:59.460 --> 00:10:01.700 was working in new york city at the time and 00:10:01.700 --> 00:10:04.059 when i got to my place you know in my office 00:10:04.059 --> 00:10:06.679 my co -workers said oh my gosh you look awful 00:10:06.679 --> 00:10:09.799 like i don't feel well at all and she called 00:10:09.799 --> 00:10:13.059 the manager who made the decision to get me to 00:10:13.059 --> 00:10:16.759 a hospital. Luckily, he had on -call car service 00:10:16.759 --> 00:10:19.460 because in Midtown Manhattan in the morning, 00:10:19.620 --> 00:10:21.639 it probably would have been very difficult for 00:10:21.639 --> 00:10:25.139 the ambulance to get to me. So there was car 00:10:25.139 --> 00:10:27.720 service right outside the building. They literally 00:10:27.720 --> 00:10:30.139 wheeled me in my office chair, pushed me down 00:10:30.139 --> 00:10:32.860 the elevator, out to the sidewalk, into the car, 00:10:32.919 --> 00:10:35.899 and there I went to the hospital. I remember 00:10:35.899 --> 00:10:38.659 being wheeled out of the hospital and emergency 00:10:38.659 --> 00:10:41.059 personnel coming with a stretcher and getting 00:10:41.059 --> 00:10:43.840 transferred to the stretcher. Into the hospital 00:10:43.840 --> 00:10:46.059 and then you know of course it to the emergency 00:10:46.059 --> 00:10:48.299 room where you know just hear all beeping and 00:10:48.299 --> 00:10:51.279 noises and people talking and then the next thing 00:10:51.279 --> 00:10:55.340 i remember is i'm floating on the ceiling and 00:10:55.340 --> 00:10:59.240 i'm looking down at my body on the stretcher 00:10:59.240 --> 00:11:02.639 watching the you know doctor and emergency personnel 00:11:02.639 --> 00:11:06.899 work on me. And as i'm watching i see the doctor 00:11:06.899 --> 00:11:10.710 grab the defibrillators. put them on me and I 00:11:10.710 --> 00:11:13.850 see my body like jumping, you know, off the stretcher. 00:11:14.110 --> 00:11:18.149 And then all of a sudden I find myself in a tunnel. 00:11:18.629 --> 00:11:23.090 It was a very, very bright tunnel. I describe 00:11:23.090 --> 00:11:27.710 it as if anybody's had a closed MRI. That's about 00:11:27.710 --> 00:11:30.870 the size that I felt I was in, you know, this 00:11:30.870 --> 00:11:34.389 tunnel. I would describe the sensation of moving 00:11:34.389 --> 00:11:37.330 through it i was on my back feet first as if 00:11:37.330 --> 00:11:40.350 any if anybody's ever bet on a simulation ride 00:11:40.350 --> 00:11:42.629 like a disney you know where you're kind of going 00:11:42.629 --> 00:11:44.870 fast but slow at the same time so that's what 00:11:44.870 --> 00:11:47.570 it felt like and it was just these bright lights 00:11:47.570 --> 00:11:50.909 all around me and i remember thinking like i 00:11:50.909 --> 00:11:54.129 was excited and then again i heard that bright. 00:11:54.279 --> 00:11:57.440 You know that sound that humming vibration sound 00:11:57.440 --> 00:12:00.259 and I could see the light really bright at the 00:12:00.259 --> 00:12:02.080 you know towards the end of the tunnel i'm going 00:12:02.080 --> 00:12:04.379 towards and i'm excited i feel like i'm going 00:12:04.379 --> 00:12:08.500 home i'm really looking forward to this as i 00:12:08.500 --> 00:12:12.740 get to the end my feet touch the end of the tunnel 00:12:12.740 --> 00:12:15.940 where the lights the brightest and they sink 00:12:15.940 --> 00:12:19.120 into this light it was almost like is if your 00:12:19.120 --> 00:12:21.960 feet went into jello is how i would describe 00:12:21.960 --> 00:12:25.690 it. and I call that the glow. So my feet went 00:12:25.690 --> 00:12:29.230 into that glow and then all of a sudden it was 00:12:29.230 --> 00:12:31.750 like, the only way I could describe it is it's 00:12:31.750 --> 00:12:33.690 something that you literally would see in a movie. 00:12:33.710 --> 00:12:36.470 Like I was in the space and it was like zip, 00:12:36.809 --> 00:12:38.549 you know, something you'd see like in a space 00:12:38.549 --> 00:12:41.049 movie or something. I was like pulled right out 00:12:41.049 --> 00:12:44.690 like back. And that's when I woke up. And of 00:12:44.690 --> 00:12:46.950 course I'm in the hospital room and I have no 00:12:46.950 --> 00:12:50.110 idea what happened to me and my, my wrists are 00:12:50.110 --> 00:12:52.759 all bandaged and because they were testing for 00:12:52.759 --> 00:12:55.100 arterial blood gases. So I'm like, what the heck 00:12:55.100 --> 00:12:57.639 happened to me, right? And the doctors told me 00:12:57.639 --> 00:13:01.100 I had gone into ventricular cardiac arrest. I 00:13:01.100 --> 00:13:03.539 was very fortunate that they, you know, that 00:13:03.539 --> 00:13:06.279 I got to the hospital in time. I think you ought 00:13:06.279 --> 00:13:09.779 to be glad that that time you were out of your 00:13:09.779 --> 00:13:12.799 body when they were hitting you with a defibrillator. 00:13:12.940 --> 00:13:17.320 Yeah, it didn't look pleasant. No. You know, 00:13:17.679 --> 00:13:19.879 not everybody has an experience going through 00:13:19.879 --> 00:13:23.120 a tunnel and everybody that does describes it 00:13:23.120 --> 00:13:26.200 completely differently. What do you make of that? 00:13:26.299 --> 00:13:28.200 Why do you think it's different for everybody? 00:13:28.860 --> 00:13:32.379 a lot of it has to do with people's perception. 00:13:32.700 --> 00:13:36.259 Honestly, I think people's acceptance of what's 00:13:36.259 --> 00:13:40.080 going on and maybe even some religious beliefs 00:13:40.080 --> 00:13:43.200 that maybe factor into it. I haven't studied 00:13:43.200 --> 00:13:45.460 a lot of what other people experience. I know 00:13:45.460 --> 00:13:48.039 there's like a tunnel. I know some people describe 00:13:48.039 --> 00:13:51.259 it as vast. I felt it as a smaller space for 00:13:51.259 --> 00:13:57.779 me, but I really feel it has to do with how people 00:13:57.779 --> 00:14:00.940 maybe perceive or against their sense of faith. 00:14:01.200 --> 00:14:03.379 I don't know. I always had a strong sense of 00:14:03.379 --> 00:14:06.039 faith. I was raised Catholic. I always believed 00:14:06.039 --> 00:14:08.759 there was an afterlife, a heaven or something. 00:14:08.879 --> 00:14:11.220 And I don't know if that made a difference. But 00:14:11.220 --> 00:14:13.840 you know, I know for sure as I was going through 00:14:13.840 --> 00:14:17.220 this, I didn't sense any fear at all. In fact, 00:14:17.320 --> 00:14:19.539 I was looking forward to it's nothing but joy 00:14:19.539 --> 00:14:22.139 and love and light. And I was looking forward 00:14:22.139 --> 00:14:25.500 to getting work wherever I was going. So it's 00:14:25.500 --> 00:14:28.539 almost like you Got their incomes came straight 00:14:28.539 --> 00:14:32.179 back before you had a chance to really experience 00:14:32.179 --> 00:14:36.200 it is that how you felt yes yes. Yeah, did you 00:14:36.200 --> 00:14:38.139 feel a little bit robbed as a whole thing? You 00:14:38.139 --> 00:14:41.340 know, again, now I still didn't realize that 00:14:41.340 --> 00:14:44.220 this was an NDE, right? I'm still thinking, oh, 00:14:44.320 --> 00:14:46.519 another cool dream under, you know, the effects 00:14:46.519 --> 00:14:50.960 of medication. But they made up for it with my 00:14:50.960 --> 00:14:53.220 third near -death experience because I did get 00:14:53.220 --> 00:14:55.759 to visit the other side. So they did give me 00:14:55.759 --> 00:14:59.440 a chance. All right. We've been putting off saving 00:14:59.440 --> 00:15:01.500 the best for last. Go ahead and jump into number 00:15:01.500 --> 00:15:05.210 three. Yeah. So what happened, you know, just 00:15:05.210 --> 00:15:07.529 that I should also say right after the second 00:15:07.529 --> 00:15:11.029 one, something changed in me and that as I was 00:15:11.029 --> 00:15:13.129 commuting, I had a two hour commute. It was pretty 00:15:13.129 --> 00:15:15.570 miserable from upstate New York to New York city 00:15:15.570 --> 00:15:17.809 at the time. So I had gone back to work after 00:15:17.809 --> 00:15:20.690 a few weeks of recuperating. But as I came close 00:15:20.690 --> 00:15:22.950 to people, whether it was sitting on the train 00:15:22.950 --> 00:15:26.269 or taking a bus or walking next to them, I started 00:15:26.269 --> 00:15:29.590 to hear names and I started to get little visions. 00:15:29.750 --> 00:15:33.269 So now, you know, I'm starting to remember that 00:15:33.269 --> 00:15:35.549 this happened, you know, when I was a child, 00:15:35.750 --> 00:15:37.950 right? So things are starting to come back to 00:15:37.950 --> 00:15:40.429 me and I'm like, what is going on? So of course 00:15:40.429 --> 00:15:43.909 I had to try to find a way to figure out what 00:15:43.909 --> 00:15:46.750 this was without coming across as a really, a 00:15:46.750 --> 00:15:51.250 weirdo, right? So I would, you know, if I sat 00:15:51.250 --> 00:15:54.450 next to somebody and I hear Frank, Frank, like 00:15:54.450 --> 00:15:57.210 this name, I'd say to them, it was a male. I'd 00:15:57.210 --> 00:16:00.059 say, oh, is she? Frank, you look very familiar, 00:16:00.240 --> 00:16:02.919 you know? And they would say no. Then they would 00:16:02.919 --> 00:16:05.940 say, oh, but my dad's name was Frank and he's 00:16:05.940 --> 00:16:09.830 passed. So things like this was happening where 00:16:09.830 --> 00:16:13.190 I see a vision and it would be like somehow whatever 00:16:13.190 --> 00:16:16.070 I saw the name would either be like a restaurant 00:16:16.070 --> 00:16:19.190 or they go to our own or street they lived out 00:16:19.190 --> 00:16:21.629 there was some correlation to the person sitting 00:16:21.629 --> 00:16:24.769 next to me so this was happening okay after the 00:16:24.769 --> 00:16:27.970 second near -death experience and also let me 00:16:27.970 --> 00:16:30.529 one day to randomly walk in a different direction 00:16:30.529 --> 00:16:34.940 on my lunch hour to a psychic shop. Where i started 00:16:34.940 --> 00:16:38.179 going for readings because i was drawn to it 00:16:38.179 --> 00:16:40.740 and in nineteen ninety one i bought my first 00:16:40.740 --> 00:16:44.259 deck of tarot cards from this place yeah so then 00:16:44.259 --> 00:16:47.419 what happened is is i get the tarot cards i hope 00:16:47.419 --> 00:16:49.960 you know read the meaning nothing resonates with 00:16:49.960 --> 00:16:53.519 me. Which is strange and i put them away and 00:16:53.519 --> 00:16:56.399 i don't touch them for over ten years okay so 00:16:56.399 --> 00:16:59.159 they're in the bottom of a box in my closet. 00:16:59.610 --> 00:17:02.710 During those 10 years a lot was going on with 00:17:02.710 --> 00:17:06.089 me I had to do a lot of soul Evolution and it's 00:17:06.089 --> 00:17:08.349 things that I write about in my book There's 00:17:08.349 --> 00:17:11.190 different levels of soul progression that I had 00:17:11.190 --> 00:17:15.269 to move through To find myself again and my soul 00:17:15.269 --> 00:17:18.779 street purpose. So this entailed getting rid 00:17:18.779 --> 00:17:21.339 of people getting rid of negative things negative 00:17:21.339 --> 00:17:24.799 people negative places so ten years of this this 00:17:24.799 --> 00:17:27.559 is what i was doing during those ten years i 00:17:27.559 --> 00:17:30.720 wasn't hearing or seeing anything because i was 00:17:30.720 --> 00:17:33.269 closed off from it. because of this negativity 00:17:33.269 --> 00:17:38.069 that was around me. So after I made changes, 00:17:38.609 --> 00:17:41.170 my third near -death experience happens. And 00:17:41.170 --> 00:17:45.009 this is in the form of, well, it was a reaction 00:17:45.009 --> 00:17:47.589 after surgery and medication. Again, another 00:17:47.589 --> 00:17:50.230 adverse reaction to medication and the anesthesia 00:17:50.230 --> 00:17:52.869 and all of that. And then all of a sudden, as 00:17:52.869 --> 00:17:55.670 I'm laying there recuperating in bed, I find 00:17:55.670 --> 00:17:59.269 myself in the space of rolling beautiful clouds. 00:17:59.349 --> 00:18:02.950 And as the clouds kind of part, then I'm in this 00:18:02.950 --> 00:18:07.230 beautiful meadow, golden sun and beautiful flowers 00:18:07.230 --> 00:18:10.009 and green grass. It's just lush. It's beautiful. 00:18:10.279 --> 00:18:13.480 vibrant and then these little children running 00:18:13.480 --> 00:18:16.220 towards me like kindergarten age and they grab 00:18:16.220 --> 00:18:19.359 my hands on either side and we start singing 00:18:19.359 --> 00:18:22.559 and dancing in a circle kind of like a ring around 00:18:22.559 --> 00:18:25.240 the rosy type of situation and we're singing 00:18:25.240 --> 00:18:29.519 this song that i know but it's not in any earthbound 00:18:29.519 --> 00:18:32.559 language okay but i know it. and I'm singing 00:18:32.559 --> 00:18:35.880 and I'm so happy and I'm joyful and so this goes 00:18:35.880 --> 00:18:38.900 on for a bit and then the children stop suddenly 00:18:38.900 --> 00:18:42.180 and they kind of part and on either side of me 00:18:42.180 --> 00:18:44.900 and they look you know in front of them and I 00:18:44.900 --> 00:18:48.180 see a man walking towards us and to me this man 00:18:48.180 --> 00:18:51.099 it all respects from my Catholic upbringing every 00:18:51.099 --> 00:18:53.819 picture that I've seen looks exactly as I would 00:18:53.819 --> 00:18:56.700 picture Jesus and I know him on a soul level 00:18:56.700 --> 00:19:01.319 as Jesus okay. And so he comes up to me, he says, 00:19:02.039 --> 00:19:05.299 do you like it here? And I say, of course, I 00:19:05.299 --> 00:19:08.519 love it here. But then at this point in my life, 00:19:08.880 --> 00:19:11.720 I now a single mom with two young boys under 00:19:11.720 --> 00:19:14.319 the age of two, I'm sorry, under the age of six. 00:19:14.460 --> 00:19:17.079 And so I look around and I say, but where are 00:19:17.079 --> 00:19:20.099 my children? Jesus says, well, it's not their 00:19:20.099 --> 00:19:23.500 time yet. And I'm like, okay. And so the little 00:19:23.500 --> 00:19:25.779 children that are around me grab my hands and 00:19:25.779 --> 00:19:28.359 then we do some more singing and dancing, right? 00:19:28.380 --> 00:19:31.480 And then they stop again and Jesus looks at me 00:19:31.480 --> 00:19:35.480 again. And the one thing that stands out about 00:19:35.480 --> 00:19:40.519 this NDE that was so impactful for me is the 00:19:40.519 --> 00:19:43.420 way that Jesus looked at me because his eyes 00:19:43.420 --> 00:19:46.740 changed colors like the ocean. So they were like 00:19:46.740 --> 00:19:50.059 green and gold and blue and brown and they were 00:19:50.059 --> 00:19:53.549 like moving. And when he looked at me, it wasn't 00:19:53.549 --> 00:19:56.829 like he was looking at me or through me. It was 00:19:56.829 --> 00:20:01.450 like I knew he knew me, all of me, this life, 00:20:01.869 --> 00:20:05.369 past lives, future lives. Like he knew all of 00:20:05.369 --> 00:20:08.630 me and I was loved and I was accepted. And it 00:20:08.630 --> 00:20:12.150 was such an incredible feeling to feel that, 00:20:12.329 --> 00:20:15.630 like just kind of emanate and fill me. But he 00:20:15.630 --> 00:20:18.859 asked me again, do you like it here? And of course 00:20:18.859 --> 00:20:21.539 again said, yeah, I love it here, but where are 00:20:21.539 --> 00:20:24.740 my children? And he said, it's not their time 00:20:24.740 --> 00:20:27.980 and it's not your time either. You have yet to 00:20:27.980 --> 00:20:31.579 become who you were meant to be. And with that, 00:20:31.759 --> 00:20:35.400 I wake up thinking, yeah, another cool dream. 00:20:35.859 --> 00:20:39.839 And who am I supposed to be? What does that mean? 00:20:40.799 --> 00:20:43.599 Wow. Can you describe the children any more than 00:20:43.599 --> 00:20:46.269 that? They were very, I guess the word I would 00:20:46.269 --> 00:20:49.410 use is like sort of rosy cherub looking. They 00:20:49.410 --> 00:20:53.230 were like, you know, beautiful pink, soft skin, 00:20:53.569 --> 00:20:56.410 rosy cheeks, their eyes, you know, bright and 00:20:56.410 --> 00:20:59.470 glowing. And most of them for some reason had 00:20:59.470 --> 00:21:02.210 like curly hair. That's what I remember. They 00:21:02.210 --> 00:21:04.849 had like some wave or curl to the hair, full 00:21:04.849 --> 00:21:08.319 hair, right? They were just. grinning happy. 00:21:08.859 --> 00:21:11.920 I wouldn't say, I don't want to say chubby, but 00:21:11.920 --> 00:21:14.859 they were, you know, meaty, I guess is a good 00:21:14.859 --> 00:21:16.799 word, right? They weren't little thin scrawny 00:21:16.799 --> 00:21:19.819 kids. They were, they were, you know, they would 00:21:19.819 --> 00:21:22.000 just were like, you just want to like squeeze. 00:21:23.160 --> 00:21:26.940 Yeah. Really adorable, cute kids. Well, and you 00:21:26.940 --> 00:21:29.660 mentioned that you recognize Jesus immediately 00:21:29.660 --> 00:21:33.039 because he, what he looked like the pictures 00:21:33.039 --> 00:21:35.819 you had grown up with in church. Absolutely. 00:21:36.079 --> 00:21:40.619 Yep. Absolutely yep. And you described his eyes 00:21:40.619 --> 00:21:43.319 which was really interesting but how did you 00:21:43.319 --> 00:21:47.599 feel around him i just was filled with love and 00:21:47.599 --> 00:21:50.920 enjoy like i can't. I can't really you can't 00:21:50.920 --> 00:21:54.160 really put words to the the feeling because it's 00:21:54.160 --> 00:21:58.339 um it's complete it's whole it's safe it's it's 00:21:58.339 --> 00:22:02.500 light I guess um it's it just was an incredible 00:22:02.500 --> 00:22:06.039 feeling I've never felt anything like that since 00:22:06.039 --> 00:22:09.339 I mean it's it's uh I really you can't put words 00:22:09.339 --> 00:22:12.680 to that feeling it just just filled your whole 00:22:12.680 --> 00:22:15.359 being with just like lightness like as if you 00:22:15.359 --> 00:22:19.059 could just float you felt so light What else 00:22:19.059 --> 00:22:20.779 did you experience there that you haven't told 00:22:20.779 --> 00:22:24.420 me yet? I also felt when I was there, it was 00:22:24.420 --> 00:22:28.059 interesting because he kept asking, do you like 00:22:28.059 --> 00:22:32.660 it here? And I kept answering, yes. And I knew 00:22:32.660 --> 00:22:36.720 somehow that I was going to come here again. 00:22:36.900 --> 00:22:41.480 And I knew somehow that after this experience, 00:22:41.559 --> 00:22:44.140 when he said you have yet to become who you were 00:22:44.140 --> 00:22:47.259 meant to be, I knew that I was going to find 00:22:47.259 --> 00:22:50.720 out what that meant. And I knew that I had like 00:22:50.720 --> 00:22:53.480 a long journey ahead of me to make it happen. 00:22:53.880 --> 00:22:57.759 But it was interesting because I remember that 00:22:57.759 --> 00:23:00.500 feeling. But then I remember when I woke up, 00:23:00.599 --> 00:23:04.380 I was like, well, I really didn't know on a human 00:23:04.380 --> 00:23:06.839 level when I woke up, like who I was supposed 00:23:06.839 --> 00:23:09.819 to be. But I remember feeling on a soul level, 00:23:10.019 --> 00:23:12.759 I'm going to remember. I'm going to remember. 00:23:13.000 --> 00:23:16.380 If that makes any sense. Yeah. So what did you 00:23:16.380 --> 00:23:18.599 have to do to remember and to figure out what 00:23:18.599 --> 00:23:21.680 you were supposed to be? So a few weeks after 00:23:21.680 --> 00:23:25.319 this, you know, NDE, I got a random call from 00:23:25.319 --> 00:23:28.740 a lady that was coordinating a psychic fair in 00:23:28.740 --> 00:23:32.180 South Florida. And she was short some readers 00:23:32.180 --> 00:23:35.259 and she wanted to know if I would be a tarot 00:23:35.259 --> 00:23:38.180 card reader at this fair. Now, I don't know how 00:23:38.180 --> 00:23:41.019 she got my name, my number. I have never done 00:23:41.019 --> 00:23:44.680 readings. Okay. But I said, hold on a second, 00:23:44.900 --> 00:23:47.759 and I ran to my bedroom. Now, this is over 10 00:23:47.759 --> 00:23:50.220 years later since I bought that deck of tarot 00:23:50.220 --> 00:23:53.500 cards in 1991 from that psychic shop in New York 00:23:53.500 --> 00:23:57.400 City. But I still had that box in my closet after 00:23:57.400 --> 00:23:59.500 moving several times. And I went through that 00:23:59.500 --> 00:24:02.160 box. And of course, there's the tarot cards there 00:24:02.160 --> 00:24:04.640 at the bottom. And I ran back to the phone and 00:24:04.640 --> 00:24:08.140 I said, yes, I'll do it. So this was a Thursday 00:24:08.140 --> 00:24:11.220 afternoon and the fair was Saturday afternoon. 00:24:11.880 --> 00:24:15.279 Saturday morning rolls around and it was like 00:24:15.279 --> 00:24:19.480 reality just sunk in and hit me like wham, right? 00:24:19.859 --> 00:24:24.839 And I said to myself, oh my God, what are you 00:24:24.839 --> 00:24:27.519 thinking? What are you doing? Like, how are you 00:24:27.519 --> 00:24:29.900 going to go do these readings? You've never done 00:24:29.900 --> 00:24:32.079 a reading. I have no idea what the cards mean. 00:24:32.140 --> 00:24:35.140 I don't know what I'm going to do. Anybody that 00:24:35.140 --> 00:24:37.720 knows me, I never stand anybody up. Okay, if 00:24:37.720 --> 00:24:40.119 I commit to something, I'm gonna come to that 00:24:40.119 --> 00:24:42.779 unless there's something, you know, really life 00:24:42.779 --> 00:24:44.660 -threatening that's keeping me from doing it. 00:24:44.779 --> 00:24:47.940 So my plan was is I would show up and tell this 00:24:47.940 --> 00:24:50.759 lady, I can't do readings, but I'll help you, 00:24:50.880 --> 00:24:53.180 I'll greet you. customers, I'll, you know, serve 00:24:53.180 --> 00:24:55.740 coffee, I'll do something. So this was my plan. 00:24:56.140 --> 00:24:59.400 So I show up there. She's very frazzled. She 00:24:59.400 --> 00:25:01.980 like drags me down this long corridor. This is 00:25:01.980 --> 00:25:04.400 your place. This is your table, two chairs, blah, 00:25:04.500 --> 00:25:06.599 blah, blah, blah. And I said, hold on, sorry, 00:25:06.740 --> 00:25:08.910 I have to tell you something. I'm not going to 00:25:08.910 --> 00:25:11.569 be able to do this. I'm very sorry." And she 00:25:11.569 --> 00:25:15.309 cut me right off. She said, no, I'm sure I need 00:25:15.309 --> 00:25:17.589 you to do reading. She said you would. And she 00:25:17.589 --> 00:25:20.190 was like really agitated. I was kind of a little 00:25:20.190 --> 00:25:24.410 afraid. So I said, okay, okay, okay. So I sat 00:25:24.410 --> 00:25:27.009 there praying that nobody would show up. And 00:25:27.009 --> 00:25:29.589 then about 15 minutes or so later, a lady showed 00:25:29.589 --> 00:25:32.740 up in her mid fifties. And she wanted a reading. 00:25:33.180 --> 00:25:35.480 So I said, okay, I don't know what I'm doing. 00:25:35.660 --> 00:25:38.039 I grabbed those cards and so they pulled them 00:25:38.039 --> 00:25:40.240 pulled out one time, right? And so it was painful 00:25:40.240 --> 00:25:42.279 because she sees me struggling to get the cards. 00:25:42.380 --> 00:25:44.319 It's a new card deck, right? And so she's already 00:25:44.319 --> 00:25:46.819 kind of like, I don't know about this one. So 00:25:46.819 --> 00:25:49.539 I start putting the cards down nervously in this 00:25:49.539 --> 00:25:51.539 big circle. And I don't know what I'm doing. 00:25:51.579 --> 00:25:53.500 I see the space in the middle. I put some more 00:25:53.500 --> 00:25:55.480 in the middle and I keep going, going, going. 00:25:55.539 --> 00:25:58.160 And I use all 76 cards without saying a word. 00:25:58.759 --> 00:26:01.759 So she says are you ever gonna say anything? 00:26:01.880 --> 00:26:05.059 So I was so nervous. I was nauseous I was sweating 00:26:05.059 --> 00:26:08.480 so I just looked down at this mess that I made 00:26:08.480 --> 00:26:12.099 on the table and then all of a sudden The strangest 00:26:12.099 --> 00:26:15.519 thing happened. It was like a pulse of electricity 00:26:15.519 --> 00:26:19.119 came into the top of my head and just like Reverberated 00:26:19.119 --> 00:26:22.099 through my body and when I looked down at the 00:26:22.099 --> 00:26:24.519 cards, it was all these like pictures. It's all 00:26:24.519 --> 00:26:28.150 I saw I just started talking and i said to her 00:26:28.150 --> 00:26:31.910 there's something about like a secret of family 00:26:31.910 --> 00:26:34.950 secret that was kept hidden for many years that 00:26:34.950 --> 00:26:38.150 just you know came out in the open it has to 00:26:38.150 --> 00:26:41.190 do with somebody passing and then i see something 00:26:41.190 --> 00:26:44.210 about legal papers communication from a lawyer 00:26:44.210 --> 00:26:47.109 and then there's a trip to a foreign country 00:26:47.109 --> 00:26:50.059 into the. two weeks, two months, and then there's 00:26:50.059 --> 00:26:53.059 all this money that comes to you, this big windfall 00:26:53.059 --> 00:26:57.220 of money. Do you understand any of this? So the 00:26:57.220 --> 00:27:01.240 lady says, I just found out a few weeks ago that 00:27:01.240 --> 00:27:05.400 I was adopted because my biological father who 00:27:05.400 --> 00:27:08.839 lives in Europe passed away and his attorney 00:27:08.839 --> 00:27:12.500 contacted me because I'm the sole beneficiary 00:27:12.500 --> 00:27:15.500 to his estate and I'm leaving in two weeks to 00:27:15.500 --> 00:27:20.680 collect my vast inheritance. So somehow I knew 00:27:20.680 --> 00:27:24.900 things without knowing how I knew them just by 00:27:24.900 --> 00:27:26.980 looking at those cards. I don't know, didn't 00:27:26.980 --> 00:27:29.640 know the meanings of the cards, anything. And 00:27:29.640 --> 00:27:32.779 that's how it started. Yeah, so let me ask you 00:27:32.779 --> 00:27:35.900 this. So a lot of people come back after their 00:27:35.900 --> 00:27:39.200 NDEs with some kind of what I like to call spiritual 00:27:39.200 --> 00:27:41.599 gifts. And you've heard about these and they're 00:27:41.599 --> 00:27:43.940 like what you experienced. There's all kinds 00:27:43.940 --> 00:27:48.130 of other things. Even some like I've met with 00:27:48.130 --> 00:27:51.509 some people that could read the thoughts of animals. 00:27:52.190 --> 00:27:53.990 You know, there's all kinds of different gifts. 00:27:54.630 --> 00:27:58.809 I guess the question that I'm getting at is for 00:27:58.809 --> 00:28:04.109 someone who's had an NDE and feels like there 00:28:04.109 --> 00:28:06.890 is something, there's some kind of a gift I have 00:28:06.890 --> 00:28:09.529 that I am different with now, but they can't 00:28:09.529 --> 00:28:11.529 figure it out. They can't really find it. What 00:28:11.529 --> 00:28:14.130 advice do you have for them? Yeah, that's a good 00:28:14.130 --> 00:28:17.240 question. You need to quiet your mind, number 00:28:17.240 --> 00:28:20.359 one, right? Because what happens is, and this 00:28:20.359 --> 00:28:23.279 what happened to me, I saw spirit and I heard 00:28:23.279 --> 00:28:26.000 spirit at the age of four, but of course I didn't 00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:28.539 understand it. Then, you know, go through life, 00:28:28.680 --> 00:28:31.140 your analytical mind takes over, things happen, 00:28:31.299 --> 00:28:34.119 you know, you go through jobs, children, helping 00:28:34.119 --> 00:28:36.059 with parents, all this kind of stuff, right? 00:28:36.180 --> 00:28:40.319 And we get distracted. So I feel that, you know, 00:28:40.480 --> 00:28:44.390 you have to... Do what i call spiritual hygiene 00:28:44.390 --> 00:28:48.130 alright and take time for yourself take time 00:28:48.130 --> 00:28:50.849 to quiet your mind whether it's just you know 00:28:50.849 --> 00:28:53.849 sitting quietly meditating reading a book walking 00:28:53.849 --> 00:28:58.009 in nature yoga painting something listening to 00:28:58.009 --> 00:29:02.349 music but take time to get in touch with your 00:29:02.349 --> 00:29:06.319 own true self with your soul. Okay, and then 00:29:06.319 --> 00:29:09.240 just sit there in the quiet because it's in the 00:29:09.240 --> 00:29:11.819 quiet that you're going to get the answers and 00:29:11.819 --> 00:29:14.180 even if you can't meditate It's very strange. 00:29:14.180 --> 00:29:17.460 I admit it. I can't meditate I'm a medium and 00:29:17.460 --> 00:29:20.059 I can't meditate my mind goes a hundred miles 00:29:20.059 --> 00:29:24.039 an hour So I listen to upbeat music upbeat music 00:29:24.039 --> 00:29:27.039 does it for me because I just lose myself I have 00:29:27.039 --> 00:29:30.579 to just get out of my you know, all my groceries 00:29:30.579 --> 00:29:33.220 my dogs, right? I have to get out of that So 00:29:33.220 --> 00:29:35.940 you have to find something that just takes you 00:29:35.940 --> 00:29:39.160 out of everyday life and lets you relax and then 00:29:39.160 --> 00:29:41.900 put your intentions out there. What am I supposed 00:29:41.900 --> 00:29:44.460 to do? What do you want me to do? You know, what 00:29:44.460 --> 00:29:47.319 direction do I need to go in? And just wait and 00:29:47.319 --> 00:29:50.119 listen for the answers. I don't know if it's 00:29:50.119 --> 00:29:54.039 that easy for everybody to just listen for the 00:29:54.039 --> 00:29:57.099 answers, but it sounds like at some point you're 00:29:57.099 --> 00:29:59.500 gonna feel directed and you need to take that 00:29:59.500 --> 00:30:02.690 flying leap. You went ahead and dealt those cards. 00:30:03.410 --> 00:30:05.509 Right. Even though you had no idea what was going 00:30:05.509 --> 00:30:09.130 to happen next. Right. And I was pushed. I was, 00:30:09.130 --> 00:30:11.630 you know, a little lined up, even though I was 00:30:11.630 --> 00:30:14.029 like, I tried to get out of it. Right. And it 00:30:14.029 --> 00:30:17.410 just, it just lined up and it will line up for 00:30:17.410 --> 00:30:20.509 you. You know you're in the right place the right 00:30:20.509 --> 00:30:23.009 time and of course everybody has work to do and 00:30:23.009 --> 00:30:25.509 that's what i read about in my book i talk about 00:30:25.509 --> 00:30:28.250 the soul levels that people get trapped in and 00:30:28.250 --> 00:30:30.890 they're called solitude there's five of them 00:30:30.890 --> 00:30:33.690 and so i use my life is an example how i came 00:30:33.690 --> 00:30:36.130 into this world in the clear solitude meaning 00:30:36.130 --> 00:30:38.589 i was communicating with spirit at the age of 00:30:38.589 --> 00:30:41.069 four that's what i was always meant to do but 00:30:41.069 --> 00:30:43.960 then i forgot. who I was. And I had to go through 00:30:43.960 --> 00:30:46.599 all these different levels, the confused, the 00:30:46.599 --> 00:30:48.779 compromised, the closed. There's five different 00:30:48.779 --> 00:30:51.420 categories till I got back to clear again, which 00:30:51.420 --> 00:30:54.079 is the goal as we take our human bodies, right? 00:30:54.299 --> 00:30:56.900 Our soul knows what our true purpose is, but 00:30:56.900 --> 00:30:59.720 then as a human, we get led astray. So there's 00:30:59.720 --> 00:31:01.720 all these things that happen in people's lives. 00:31:01.940 --> 00:31:04.160 And I always say, you know, you've heard this, 00:31:04.160 --> 00:31:07.240 this saying lessons are often blessings. We don't 00:31:07.240 --> 00:31:09.859 see it at the moment, but it just may be the 00:31:09.859 --> 00:31:11.779 universe, your team on the other side. by giving 00:31:11.779 --> 00:31:14.279 you a nudge to go in a different direction. So 00:31:14.279 --> 00:31:17.819 pay attention. Sometimes it's so easy. It simply 00:31:17.819 --> 00:31:21.339 is, is what brings you joy? Because on some level 00:31:21.339 --> 00:31:25.059 your soul knows what brings you joy. People like 00:31:25.059 --> 00:31:27.640 always ask me like, can you tell me what my soul's 00:31:27.640 --> 00:31:29.440 purpose is? Well, nobody can tell you, you have 00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:32.849 to find that out yourself, right? But. Don't 00:31:32.849 --> 00:31:35.069 over complicate it. Don't think that you had 00:31:35.069 --> 00:31:37.910 to come in to be like a neurosurgeon or something 00:31:37.910 --> 00:31:41.089 Maybe your soul's purpose in this lifetime was 00:31:41.089 --> 00:31:44.250 to be a mother Maybe your soul's purpose was 00:31:44.250 --> 00:31:47.849 to rescue a dog. It can be so simple like that 00:31:47.849 --> 00:31:50.190 because maybe in past lives You never had pets 00:31:50.190 --> 00:31:52.569 maybe in past lives. You didn't have children 00:31:52.569 --> 00:31:56.269 So it could be so simple, but people do tend 00:31:56.269 --> 00:31:59.710 to over complicate it I think for all of us part 00:31:59.710 --> 00:32:03.829 of our purpose is to find joy Period. That's 00:32:03.829 --> 00:32:06.029 what eternity is all about. We should be able 00:32:06.029 --> 00:32:10.150 to find a measure of that here as well. Speaking 00:32:10.150 --> 00:32:13.730 of eternity, from all of these experiences put 00:32:13.730 --> 00:32:16.690 together and the time that you've had to digest 00:32:16.690 --> 00:32:21.890 them, what have you learned or think you know 00:32:21.890 --> 00:32:27.049 now about the afterlife, about more than just 00:32:27.049 --> 00:32:29.609 what happens here on earth? One, it's interesting 00:32:29.609 --> 00:32:33.740 because I felt a little bit as a fraud, I guess 00:32:33.740 --> 00:32:36.920 I'll put it, as a medium because I was very qualified 00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:39.380 medium doing very highly evidential readings, 00:32:39.619 --> 00:32:42.599 but I hadn't lost anybody yet. that was close 00:32:42.599 --> 00:32:46.220 to me. So I didn't experience that grief, right? 00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:48.660 And that, you know, like, oh my gosh, what happens? 00:32:48.839 --> 00:32:52.619 And then I lost my dad. And so even at that point, 00:32:52.839 --> 00:32:55.240 my readings just went like the quality just went 00:32:55.240 --> 00:32:57.700 way up because that missing piece had to come 00:32:57.700 --> 00:33:00.140 into me for me to kind of feel all sides of it, 00:33:00.140 --> 00:33:03.579 right? But what I know from my near death experiences 00:33:03.579 --> 00:33:06.140 and being able to communicate with the other 00:33:06.140 --> 00:33:10.019 side is that love never dies. Number one, it's 00:33:10.019 --> 00:33:13.440 eternal. People i would say you know when i lost 00:33:13.440 --> 00:33:18.359 my dad not that it was easy but i knew where 00:33:18.359 --> 00:33:21.619 he was going what he was going to feel and that 00:33:21.619 --> 00:33:25.059 made it so much easier for me to deal with because 00:33:25.059 --> 00:33:28.119 i think about if people don't believe in an afterlife 00:33:28.119 --> 00:33:31.119 right or you know if i go back to my catholic 00:33:31.119 --> 00:33:34.319 upbringing right and i say okay alright my dad's 00:33:34.319 --> 00:33:36.539 past okay he's up there with the angels having 00:33:36.539 --> 00:33:38.539 a good time that's all great for him but what 00:33:38.539 --> 00:33:42.059 does that do for me. All i have is pictures here 00:33:42.059 --> 00:33:45.200 and memories i don't. Have any way to communicate 00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:47.920 with him or feel his right right if i'm going 00:33:47.920 --> 00:33:51.299 by my the way that i was raised but now knowing 00:33:51.299 --> 00:33:54.039 you know that there is an afterlife they send 00:33:54.039 --> 00:33:57.940 a sign state communicate like goes on that this 00:33:57.940 --> 00:34:00.900 here. On Earth, it's just a school, it's just 00:34:00.900 --> 00:34:04.700 a learning program for us that life goes on. 00:34:05.539 --> 00:34:08.219 And having beautiful experiences, even though 00:34:08.219 --> 00:34:11.619 medically they were issues, but I never felt 00:34:11.619 --> 00:34:14.860 anything but light and love and peace and joy. 00:34:15.380 --> 00:34:19.179 I would tell anyone, keep the faith. You're just 00:34:19.179 --> 00:34:22.820 here temporary and this is nothing compared to 00:34:22.820 --> 00:34:25.280 the many lives you're going to have after this. 00:34:26.019 --> 00:34:28.159 That's such a beautiful wrap up i don't even 00:34:28.159 --> 00:34:31.539 know where to go from here but to say thank you 00:34:31.539 --> 00:34:35.090 connie you're welcome is my pleasure. Before 00:34:35.090 --> 00:34:37.230 we do wrap up, is there anything else that you 00:34:37.230 --> 00:34:39.130 think would be important to talk about to our 00:34:39.130 --> 00:34:42.289 audience? Try not to look too hard for solutions 00:34:42.289 --> 00:34:45.849 and let them come organically or naturally and 00:34:45.849 --> 00:34:48.670 just pay attention. Pay attention to the people 00:34:48.670 --> 00:34:52.070 that come into your life, the circumstances that 00:34:52.070 --> 00:34:55.170 happen. Again, you may have had some hard times, 00:34:55.429 --> 00:34:58.659 but where did you end up? Try to piece that together 00:34:58.659 --> 00:35:00.679 and I think that if you do that, you'll look 00:35:00.679 --> 00:35:03.579 back and you'll have a better understanding and 00:35:03.579 --> 00:35:06.059 maybe a better appreciation of things that happened 00:35:06.059 --> 00:35:08.760 in your life and realize, okay, that's why that 00:35:08.760 --> 00:35:11.719 happened because now I'm this person now. This 00:35:11.719 --> 00:35:14.960 changed me. This influenced me or this person 00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:17.800 influenced me. So really just take the time. 00:35:18.079 --> 00:35:21.119 They could be maybe insignificant events that 00:35:21.119 --> 00:35:23.719 you thought at the time, but they probably were 00:35:23.719 --> 00:35:27.699 very impactful if you reflect on them. I like 00:35:27.699 --> 00:35:30.019 it. Thank you. All right, if anybody wants to 00:35:30.019 --> 00:35:32.800 get a hold of Connie, it's meaningful messages 00:35:32.800 --> 00:35:35.380 dot info and it will there will be a link down 00:35:35.380 --> 00:35:38.320 in the show notes to make it easy for you. But 00:35:38.320 --> 00:35:40.579 thanks again, Connie. Appreciate your time today. 00:35:40.920 --> 00:35:45.869 You're welcome, Eric. It's been a pleasure. Thanks 00:35:45.869 --> 00:35:48.269 again for listening and sharing this podcast. 00:35:48.610 --> 00:35:50.949 Don't forget to hit the follow or subscribe button 00:35:50.949 --> 00:35:53.369 and sign up for our newsletter at roundtripdeath 00:35:53.369 --> 00:35:56.889 .com. If you want to share your near -death experience, 00:35:57.369 --> 00:35:59.170 or if you have questions or comments about the 00:35:59.170 --> 00:36:02.070 show, send an email to eric at roundtripdeath 00:36:02.070 --> 00:36:05.230 .com. 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