Welcome, welcome to Round Trip Death everybody.
We're so happy to have our guest today, Nicole
Consiglio coming to us from Wisconsin in the
United States. How are you, Nicole? I'm good.
How are you? I'm great. I just want to give a
little bit of a heads up to our listeners before
we jump into your near -death experience. Quite
often on this show things are so positive and
there's lots of butterflies and unicorns and
glitter and you know, whatever but sometimes
people's experiences in an NDE are Much more
rugged and a little bit harder to listen to So
you've been forewarned today is one of those
if you have small children, you might not want
to have them listening But there's always a great
message and there's also some fun things that
we're going to talk about today too. So with
that bit of introduction, hi again, Nicole. Would
you mind just telling us a little bit about you
so we can get to know you today? Yeah, I was
born and raised in Waukesha, Wisconsin. I am
a mom of three teen girls and I don't know who
I am anymore. I spent 27 years in medical up
until 2020. During COVID, I decided that I needed
to walk away from the medical field. And that
was really the beginning of my journey into my
near -death experience. Hmm. Do you mind if I
ask what were your thoughts on why you wanted
to walk away? I was deep into alcohol. I became
an alcoholic and I guess my drinking became more
of my job than a job. But also with COVID, I
knew I needed to walk away from the medical field
just because my mental health wasn't the greatest
in 2020 as well. Yeah, what a rugged time. It
was. Especially for people in hospitals and things.
And our thanks goes out to them. So your experience
came four years ago. Yes. Alcohol started the
whole thing, but Did the alcoholism and the loss
of job lead to you being suicidal? I had made
several suicide attempts or had ideas prior to.
I grew up with an alcoholic father, two neglectful,
emotionally immature parents. I raised my sister
by myself. I raised myself with very little guidance
from my parents. So I knew better. than to drink
and become an alcoholic due to my dad. But in
2016, I chose to walk out of a marriage. I swear
it kind of gets sticky, but he was a fraud. So
I actually began drinking in that marriage. I
also had severe postpartum depression with my,
especially my last daughter. That just kind of
got the snowball going. I got addicted to my
prescription pills as well, like Xanax. some
migraine medicine. I went from the prescription
pills to the drinking. And then after my divorce
in 2017, I became a nightly drinker. By 2019,
2020, I was drinking before work and after work
and all throughout the night. So yeah, it became
my focus. So it went from alcoholism to a suicide
mission, subconsciously. All right. Well, let's
jump to July of 2021. Well, a few days before
that, July 17th of 2021, my oldest daughter had
texted me and she said, Mom, you need to get
help. And if you don't get help, we're not coming
over ever again. So that was my ultimatum to
get help. Before, even before that, I had started
to water down my drinks and try to wean myself
off. July 21st, I can look back at pictures.
I have pictures on my phone leading up to that
and I don't have many memories. But something
guided me to go outside that afternoon on July
21st, 2021. And I was found unconscious in my
driveway. and it was my neighbor who was an RN
found me laying there. She came over and was
starting to shake me awake. However, when I was
found unconscious, I was actually having the
near death already, the experience. So in that
instant, I was laying down what looked like a
workout bench and there were two girls standing
at my seat and they looked like they were looking
at something and they turned around and they
attacked me. And they held me down. And I began
to fight them. And there was a phone that happened
to appear on the wall. And I grabbed the phone
and it was instantly connected to a friend of
mine. And I began screaming, don't believe them,
don't believe them. And then I was woken up by
my neighbor. She had been rubbing my chest trying
to get me to wake up. And I stumbled up the driveway.
I got to the door. and I realized I had my phone
in my hand still. So I called my former husband.
We divorced last year. I called him and said,
I need help. I'm ready for health now. He was
super excited that I had finally asked for help.
He couldn't get to our house fast enough, so
he called my brother. And my brother happened
to be in some coincidence, if you will. He happened
to be coming back from Green Bay that day and
was driving past my exit. to get to my house.
So he was there within five minutes and he was
able to take me to the ER. When into the ER,
I finally said the words I needed to say for
three years plus was, I need help. I'm an alcoholic
and I'm in detox and I need some help. I was
taken back to the ER room, asked a bunch of questions
and the doctor said we need to get a CT scan
of your head. So they took me into CT scan. I
remember being wheeled out and brought back into
the room and the nurse said to me we have something
that we can give you to relax and I accepted
and at that point everything went black. I don't
really remember much. My brother said something
happened to you when they gave you that medication
to relax because you went from talking and being
pretty coherent to They couldn't get you awake.
Then you started having trouble breathing. And
within, I think it was one to two hours, I was
transferred out of my local hospital and sent
to the major hospital in Milwaukee where I was
put in liver transplant ICU on a ventilator,
on life support, and I went unconscious. And
the other side of it, I remember being sucked
up into like a vortex, like a tornado. It was
dark and dirty. I had, I opened my eyes and I
had darkness all around me. Something was on
top of me, on my throat, choking me out. And
I fought so hard. I was being killed. I couldn't
breathe. And I fought and I pushed. It felt like
a barbell across my throat and 500 pounds. And
I pushed this thing off with all my might. This
black shadow scurried off to the right as the
Shadows scurried off. I looked up and there was
a balcony above me. It was really dimly lit and
it was my neighbor that had passed away in 1986.
He was standing there. I had been best friends
with his daughter growing up and he had his arms
crossed like this and he looked pretty upset
that I was where I was at. He then floated from
the top of this balcony to my face and basically
touched noses with me. and then he floated back
up onto this balcony. I looked over to my left,
and my mom was standing there. My mom was still
alive at the time she passed away a year later,
actually. She was standing there, also looking
really upset that I was in this position. And
then as I looked over, trying to figure out where
I was at, the room lit up in a golden amber light,
this warm, loving light. and Jesus glided out
of this doorway. He didn't speak, but he had
the long brown hair, a white gown full of light.
He just shone so bright. And he just stared at
me. He didn't speak to me. I looked over to my
left and my ex -husband was also on the floor
with me in this near death. He was chained down
and looked horrified that he was there. When
the room lit up I could look behind me and there
were entities sitting behind me almost like we
were in a courtroom and behind Yahshua or Jesus
there were little balls of light kind of bubbling
around on this balcony. As I was looking around
a lightning bolt came down out of nowhere and
a brilliant lightning bolt, powerful. The vividness
of this lightning bolt I deal with flashbacks
daily. And it struck me in the chest. It made
this thunderous boom. Within that boom came the
voice that said, make your decision, commanding
me to make my decision. I lurched up. I could
hear the chains rattling. I just had just realized
that I was chained down as well. And I sat up
and I screamed, I want my babies. In that moment,
with God and in this scene, I reacted physically
as well. Nine people had to hold me down in the
ICU. April 20th of this past year of 2024, I
was scrolling through TikTok and a video popped
up and it was the tomb of Jesus. And I watched
this video and realized that is where I was in
my near death. I come from a family of no faith.
My dad was a 19 50s altar boy who was abused
in the Catholic Church. So we were just told
to stay away from the church and we didn't really
have a relationship with God or anything. So
I didn't know the tomb of Jesus even existed
until I saw that video and I realized that's
where I was in this near -death. I was in the
tomb of Jesus. Wow. Okay. I want to unpack a
little bit of this before we move on further
if you're okay with that. Mm -hmm. Did you feel
like there was a time that you left your body?
Yes. Okay. Because I'm trying to sort of figure
out where you someplace else, but then you remember
being held down in the ER. So it sounds like
you were kind of in and out. Is that how you
felt? I was outside. It's like I had an awareness
of everything going on in the near death and
in the physical reality. So I was There and there.
I actually knew nine people held me down. I didn't
ask. Well, I had a vision of some people running
in and holding me down. And I asked my brother
and my sister, did nine people come in and hold
me down? And they were like, yes, how did you
know? And I just knew how my new nine people
had held me down. I do have other out of body
experiences where I was standing shoulder to
shoulder. My brother was here. My ex -husband
was here and I was standing between them. And
we were both, we were all looking at my body
in the ICU bed. And my brother said, what if
she doesn't make it? And my ex -husband said,
I don't know. And I could actually recount that
when I came out of my coma. I do have the vision
of that. So you were out of body. They were not.
They were alive. And you were Having their kind
of perspective on what was going on or as if
you were kind of standing over their shoulder
Wow, that's interesting. Yeah, this is kind of
different. All right, you saw this figure of
Jesus How did you know it was him? Was it because
he looked like the pictures? That you've seen
or was there some other way that you felt it
was him just by looking at him I knew but also
by the pictures the white gown his his light
was brilliant. It was almost blinding So it's
just one of those things where I was like, oh,
that's Jesus. That's amazing. You just automatically
knew. Automatically knew. Okay. Now the tomb
of Jesus, is this the one over in Jerusalem that
it's hewn out of rock and it has like a circle
kind of thing over? Okay. So you felt like you
were in that place being held down. Wow. Okay,
I want to hear more about the lightning bolt.
That's unusual too. It just came out of nowhere,
out of thin air. It scared me so bad to my core.
The power that came from it, the light was so
blinding. Like it just blinded me and I got mad.
I didn't get scared at that point. Then I got
mad and I yelled at this lightning bolt that
I wanted my babies. And it said, make your decision.
And the decision I assume was stay here or go
back. I believe so, to either stay where I was
or Go back. But that wasn't Jesus talking. No,
that was God. Okay. That was my God. But you
got upset with this God. Yes, I got mad and I
screamed at him. Of course, children do scream
at their parents sometimes, don't they? Right.
That's so true. Wow. I'm just wondering what
else you felt through this. Were there times
of fear and times of peace? What kinds of things
did you feel? It was mostly terrifying. I was
panicking. It felt like a never -ending dream,
but it felt too real to be a dream. It was too
vivid in color, but mostly it was distressing.
I came back really afraid and I have PTSD now
because of it. I get daily flashbacks. Even with
the Jesus part, it was distressing. Yes, because
there was more to it. After I screamed at God,
then I was on the soul work, what felt like soul
work. In one particular, I was looking for a
girl named Mary and I was running through Milwaukee
bars trying to find Mary. And I can remember
running through it had wood paneling. I could
remember details like the bar was over here running
through there was like a gambling machine and
a wood paneling wall. And I'm screaming for this
girl named Mary. I don't know who Mary is. I
don't know what she looks like, but I am running
through these scenes trying to find Mary. In
the next scene, I was at a trap house, a drug
house. Blue walls, the disco ball was going,
music was going. The floor was really sticky.
I was scared. Again, don't know who Mary is,
why I'm looking for her. But eventually I got,
my soul got tired and I fell asleep on the sticky
blue walled room. And then in the next scene,
I am at a church and I can remember looking up
at the church, seeing the brick on the walls.
and running into the door, going into the church,
screaming for this Mary, so afraid I can't find
her. And I run up the stairs and I come to an
open area that kind of looks like a kitchen and
there's a nun carrying a baby. And I screamed,
is that Mary? And the lady looked at me and she
said, yes, this is Mary. And I put my hand on
Mary and I said, thank God I found Mary. And
when I said those words, my near -death changed
into a more peaceful scene. So there are some
commonalities here with distressing experiences.
And that is that they often go from scene to
scene to scene, sort of like you're explaining.
And some are even much, much more horrific than
what you had to go through. I know you've studied
a few of those too. Okay, keep going. What else
was there that happened? Well that was pretty
much the end of the distressing. I had more out
of body experiences. There is one where I was
sitting, this is part of the distressing, where
I was sitting in a room full of plastic and there's
a chandelier behind me and this room is just
walled off in plastic and I'm sitting on a ledge
and I'm waiting and I don't and I'm scared, I'm
lonely, it's cold, it's dreary, it's kind of
like just a dreary crappy day type of feeling.
I knew I was in the void or the abyss. I could
feel it. And I was waiting for my cousins. They
arrive eventually. I see my oldest cousin Tony
come up. His wife is there. And he says, we're
waiting for their sons. And I follow them around.
They don't know that I'm there. They can't hear
me talking, trying to wave my arms, get their
attention. The boys finally arrive. and they're
working on this house. But again, it's scary
because nobody could see me, nobody could hear
me, nobody could help me. I was just so lonely
in this space that I was in. And I did talk to
my cousin post -coma and he can verify that he
was actually at his lake house that weekend working
on his house that was under construction. And
I'd only been there one other time 10 years before.
So a lot of it was out of body experiences as
well. which was terrifying when you don't understand
where are you, you know, and to have such detail
afterwards. How did this all come to an end?
I know you were in the hospital for quite some
time. I was in the hospital for about 40 days
and I want to backtrack to Mary real quick. Come
to find out later on after talking to my mom.
My mom had a baby sister named Mary who had died
shortly after childbirth. It bothered my mom
every day that she didn't know what happened
to Mary. So I do believe that I did some soul
work for my family to find baby Mary. That's
the only thing that makes sense was that my mom
had a sister named Mary that passed away at birth.
And it always bothered my mom that she could
never figure out where Mary was buried or what
happened to her. So I do feel like that was the
soul work. That I needed to do for my family
was to locate Mary. All right. How's your life
changed from all of this? I've lost everybody
basically I had a spiritual awakening seven months
after coming out of the coma and That scared
them. They were around when I had a couple my
awakenings and suddenly I was able to channel
and Have mystical things happen to me. So that
scared them. I have a relationship with my youngest
but my older two just have kind of went the wrong
way for a while. It's just kind of keep mom at
a distance. So I'm trying to deal with life without
really being a mom right now. I end up getting
a divorce. I can't work and I do have trouble
working just because of the PTSD and the complex
trauma. This hurled me into a healing journey
that I was not prepared for after the spiritual
awakening, all of my trauma. came to the surface.
So I'm still working on that and building myself
back up. But I can channel. I connect to Spirit.
I can connect to God. The universe gives me little
winks here and there to let me know that I'm
doing okay. But I've pretty much lost my life.
I lost my house. I got divorced. The house went
up for sale. The car got repode. Right now I
kind of feel like a sad country song. It's not
funny, but I'm glad you can laugh about it a
little bit. That is so rough. Yeah. That is so
rough. How's the recovery from alcohol going?
I couldn't really do AA. I needed to go right
with God. So I can actually just thank God because
it's just been something I needed to deal with
personally with God. And so it's been great.
I've been sober. I don't drink. If I'm around
alcohol, I get nauseous. So congrats on that.
That is a tough, tough journey. Are you glad
that you were given that ultimatum from your
daughter? Was that a good thing? She's my angel,
the one that saved me. Yes, I thank her as much
as she'll allow me to. I think she's getting
tired of me thanking her, but I do. Yeah, I do
thank her. Could you use that as advice for other
families going through something like this? Yes.
The alcoholism destroyed my relationship and
tore me apart as a mom. It's been hard to connect
to being a mom again after you've destroyed your
own family. Yeah. All right. Let's talk about
something fun for a change. A little change of
mood here. And that is we're going to talk about
electronics. I've had some people on the show
that This didn't happen before their NDEs, but
after their NDEs they had unusual things happen
with electronics such as wristwatches would stop
working, cell phones wouldn't work, etc. And
you were telling me just a couple of little things
like that. Tell me what's going on with you.
And this only came up because when we first started
recording everything quit and didn't work and
we had to start over again. Give me some examples
of what happens to you. I was at Barnes and Noble
one day checking out. The whole computer system
shut down. A couple of times I've been at my
local library checking out books and the self
-checkout will crash and I have to have them
reboot it. Electronics, they drain a lot when
I'm channeling or when there's a lot of high
vibrational energy around me. My phone will drain
pretty quick. You mean the battery will go like
from 100 % to 20 % in a couple of minutes? Yes.
On my computer, it'll just shut down completely.
Just out of nowhere. Sometimes if my phone is
glitching, if I blow on it, it's enough to get
it to stop glitching. So you always see me blowing
on my... Yeah, I can blow on my phone and it'll
stop glitching. Okay. Just letting people know.
When they see Nicole blowing on her phone, there's
a good reason for it. There's a good reason.
Okay. Anything else? How about gas pumps? Nothing
on gas pumps yet. Okay. Good. All right, Nicole.
Well, this has been a roller coaster, but you
know, congrats on coming along. This has been
a rough journey for you and just keep hanging
in there. Cause my mom used to always say, keep
your chin up. Yes. All right. Give us some final
thoughts here. I'm going to give you the last
word. Give thanks to our Creator, to the universe.
I don't think us humans give gratitude like we
should to the bigger picture of things, especially
right now with everything going on in the world.
We definitely need to look at higher powers to
try to pull us out. I'm living testimony that
I have nothing living out of my car and borrowing
the space to be able to do this interview, but
I keep my faith. every day. And I know that God
and the universe and my angels and my ancestor
spirit team, they're all working in my favor,
trying to get me the best life possible. And
it takes a strong person to really put faith
into invisible forces. Okay, well said. Well,
Nicole, thanks for being with me today. And just
a reminder, If anybody listening or a loved one,
there's a great crisis hotline out there. Just
dial 988 on your phone from nearly anywhere in
the world and you can talk to somebody and get
some help. So be sure to do that. We want you
to stay here and you can work through these tough
things. Nicole's a good example of that. Absolutely.
I'm a walking miracle. I shouldn't be here. Thanks
again for listening and sharing this podcast.
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