WEBVTT 00:00:05.170 --> 00:00:07.450 Welcome, welcome to Round Trip Death everybody. 00:00:07.870 --> 00:00:10.750 We're so happy to have our guest today, Nicole 00:00:10.750 --> 00:00:14.210 Consiglio coming to us from Wisconsin in the 00:00:14.210 --> 00:00:16.670 United States. How are you, Nicole? I'm good. 00:00:16.710 --> 00:00:20.210 How are you? I'm great. I just want to give a 00:00:20.210 --> 00:00:22.589 little bit of a heads up to our listeners before 00:00:22.589 --> 00:00:26.219 we jump into your near -death experience. Quite 00:00:26.219 --> 00:00:29.160 often on this show things are so positive and 00:00:29.160 --> 00:00:31.980 there's lots of butterflies and unicorns and 00:00:31.980 --> 00:00:34.899 glitter and you know, whatever but sometimes 00:00:34.899 --> 00:00:39.420 people's experiences in an NDE are Much more 00:00:39.420 --> 00:00:42.979 rugged and a little bit harder to listen to So 00:00:42.979 --> 00:00:45.859 you've been forewarned today is one of those 00:00:45.859 --> 00:00:48.719 if you have small children, you might not want 00:00:48.719 --> 00:00:51.500 to have them listening But there's always a great 00:00:51.500 --> 00:00:54.439 message and there's also some fun things that 00:00:54.439 --> 00:00:57.299 we're going to talk about today too. So with 00:00:57.299 --> 00:01:00.479 that bit of introduction, hi again, Nicole. Would 00:01:00.479 --> 00:01:02.679 you mind just telling us a little bit about you 00:01:02.679 --> 00:01:05.599 so we can get to know you today? Yeah, I was 00:01:05.599 --> 00:01:09.700 born and raised in Waukesha, Wisconsin. I am 00:01:09.700 --> 00:01:14.500 a mom of three teen girls and I don't know who 00:01:14.500 --> 00:01:19.159 I am anymore. I spent 27 years in medical up 00:01:19.159 --> 00:01:23.140 until 2020. During COVID, I decided that I needed 00:01:23.140 --> 00:01:26.780 to walk away from the medical field. And that 00:01:26.780 --> 00:01:30.519 was really the beginning of my journey into my 00:01:30.519 --> 00:01:33.819 near -death experience. Hmm. Do you mind if I 00:01:33.819 --> 00:01:36.079 ask what were your thoughts on why you wanted 00:01:36.079 --> 00:01:41.420 to walk away? I was deep into alcohol. I became 00:01:41.420 --> 00:01:45.439 an alcoholic and I guess my drinking became more 00:01:45.439 --> 00:01:51.500 of my job than a job. But also with COVID, I 00:01:51.500 --> 00:01:53.640 knew I needed to walk away from the medical field 00:01:53.640 --> 00:01:56.219 just because my mental health wasn't the greatest 00:01:56.219 --> 00:02:00.900 in 2020 as well. Yeah, what a rugged time. It 00:02:00.900 --> 00:02:03.519 was. Especially for people in hospitals and things. 00:02:04.099 --> 00:02:07.780 And our thanks goes out to them. So your experience 00:02:07.780 --> 00:02:12.199 came four years ago. Yes. Alcohol started the 00:02:12.199 --> 00:02:16.120 whole thing, but Did the alcoholism and the loss 00:02:16.120 --> 00:02:21.120 of job lead to you being suicidal? I had made 00:02:21.120 --> 00:02:25.780 several suicide attempts or had ideas prior to. 00:02:26.280 --> 00:02:30.699 I grew up with an alcoholic father, two neglectful, 00:02:30.840 --> 00:02:34.400 emotionally immature parents. I raised my sister 00:02:34.400 --> 00:02:38.379 by myself. I raised myself with very little guidance 00:02:38.379 --> 00:02:42.860 from my parents. So I knew better. than to drink 00:02:42.860 --> 00:02:47.419 and become an alcoholic due to my dad. But in 00:02:47.419 --> 00:02:51.620 2016, I chose to walk out of a marriage. I swear 00:02:51.620 --> 00:02:55.180 it kind of gets sticky, but he was a fraud. So 00:02:55.180 --> 00:02:58.060 I actually began drinking in that marriage. I 00:02:58.060 --> 00:03:00.979 also had severe postpartum depression with my, 00:03:01.139 --> 00:03:04.340 especially my last daughter. That just kind of 00:03:04.340 --> 00:03:07.840 got the snowball going. I got addicted to my 00:03:07.840 --> 00:03:11.319 prescription pills as well, like Xanax. some 00:03:11.319 --> 00:03:14.560 migraine medicine. I went from the prescription 00:03:14.560 --> 00:03:18.520 pills to the drinking. And then after my divorce 00:03:18.520 --> 00:03:25.599 in 2017, I became a nightly drinker. By 2019, 00:03:25.819 --> 00:03:31.979 2020, I was drinking before work and after work 00:03:31.979 --> 00:03:35.759 and all throughout the night. So yeah, it became 00:03:35.759 --> 00:03:41.259 my focus. So it went from alcoholism to a suicide 00:03:41.259 --> 00:03:45.319 mission, subconsciously. All right. Well, let's 00:03:45.319 --> 00:03:50.580 jump to July of 2021. Well, a few days before 00:03:50.580 --> 00:03:54.180 that, July 17th of 2021, my oldest daughter had 00:03:54.180 --> 00:03:57.560 texted me and she said, Mom, you need to get 00:03:57.560 --> 00:03:59.860 help. And if you don't get help, we're not coming 00:03:59.860 --> 00:04:04.159 over ever again. So that was my ultimatum to 00:04:04.159 --> 00:04:07.379 get help. Before, even before that, I had started 00:04:07.379 --> 00:04:10.060 to water down my drinks and try to wean myself 00:04:10.060 --> 00:04:14.800 off. July 21st, I can look back at pictures. 00:04:14.800 --> 00:04:17.160 I have pictures on my phone leading up to that 00:04:17.160 --> 00:04:21.939 and I don't have many memories. But something 00:04:21.939 --> 00:04:25.439 guided me to go outside that afternoon on July 00:04:25.439 --> 00:04:31.839 21st, 2021. And I was found unconscious in my 00:04:31.839 --> 00:04:35.750 driveway. and it was my neighbor who was an RN 00:04:35.750 --> 00:04:40.589 found me laying there. She came over and was 00:04:40.589 --> 00:04:43.569 starting to shake me awake. However, when I was 00:04:43.569 --> 00:04:45.470 found unconscious, I was actually having the 00:04:45.470 --> 00:04:48.910 near death already, the experience. So in that 00:04:48.910 --> 00:04:52.470 instant, I was laying down what looked like a 00:04:52.470 --> 00:04:55.129 workout bench and there were two girls standing 00:04:55.129 --> 00:04:56.910 at my seat and they looked like they were looking 00:04:56.910 --> 00:04:59.870 at something and they turned around and they 00:04:59.870 --> 00:05:04.060 attacked me. And they held me down. And I began 00:05:04.060 --> 00:05:07.939 to fight them. And there was a phone that happened 00:05:07.939 --> 00:05:11.240 to appear on the wall. And I grabbed the phone 00:05:11.240 --> 00:05:13.639 and it was instantly connected to a friend of 00:05:13.639 --> 00:05:16.699 mine. And I began screaming, don't believe them, 00:05:16.779 --> 00:05:20.019 don't believe them. And then I was woken up by 00:05:20.019 --> 00:05:22.839 my neighbor. She had been rubbing my chest trying 00:05:22.839 --> 00:05:26.279 to get me to wake up. And I stumbled up the driveway. 00:05:26.459 --> 00:05:30.220 I got to the door. and I realized I had my phone 00:05:30.220 --> 00:05:34.040 in my hand still. So I called my former husband. 00:05:34.439 --> 00:05:37.180 We divorced last year. I called him and said, 00:05:37.180 --> 00:05:40.600 I need help. I'm ready for health now. He was 00:05:40.600 --> 00:05:43.220 super excited that I had finally asked for help. 00:05:43.480 --> 00:05:46.600 He couldn't get to our house fast enough, so 00:05:46.600 --> 00:05:48.899 he called my brother. And my brother happened 00:05:48.899 --> 00:05:52.860 to be in some coincidence, if you will. He happened 00:05:52.860 --> 00:05:55.939 to be coming back from Green Bay that day and 00:05:55.939 --> 00:05:59.579 was driving past my exit. to get to my house. 00:06:00.279 --> 00:06:03.160 So he was there within five minutes and he was 00:06:03.160 --> 00:06:06.279 able to take me to the ER. When into the ER, 00:06:07.199 --> 00:06:11.180 I finally said the words I needed to say for 00:06:11.180 --> 00:06:14.800 three years plus was, I need help. I'm an alcoholic 00:06:14.800 --> 00:06:18.300 and I'm in detox and I need some help. I was 00:06:18.300 --> 00:06:23.300 taken back to the ER room, asked a bunch of questions 00:06:23.300 --> 00:06:25.439 and the doctor said we need to get a CT scan 00:06:25.439 --> 00:06:29.870 of your head. So they took me into CT scan. I 00:06:29.870 --> 00:06:32.329 remember being wheeled out and brought back into 00:06:32.329 --> 00:06:37.009 the room and the nurse said to me we have something 00:06:37.009 --> 00:06:40.350 that we can give you to relax and I accepted 00:06:40.350 --> 00:06:44.449 and at that point everything went black. I don't 00:06:44.449 --> 00:06:47.290 really remember much. My brother said something 00:06:47.290 --> 00:06:49.990 happened to you when they gave you that medication 00:06:49.990 --> 00:06:53.509 to relax because you went from talking and being 00:06:53.509 --> 00:06:56.579 pretty coherent to They couldn't get you awake. 00:06:56.720 --> 00:07:00.319 Then you started having trouble breathing. And 00:07:00.319 --> 00:07:03.060 within, I think it was one to two hours, I was 00:07:03.060 --> 00:07:05.920 transferred out of my local hospital and sent 00:07:05.920 --> 00:07:09.660 to the major hospital in Milwaukee where I was 00:07:09.660 --> 00:07:13.500 put in liver transplant ICU on a ventilator, 00:07:13.579 --> 00:07:17.540 on life support, and I went unconscious. And 00:07:17.540 --> 00:07:20.519 the other side of it, I remember being sucked 00:07:20.519 --> 00:07:23.660 up into like a vortex, like a tornado. It was 00:07:23.660 --> 00:07:29.290 dark and dirty. I had, I opened my eyes and I 00:07:29.290 --> 00:07:32.290 had darkness all around me. Something was on 00:07:32.290 --> 00:07:36.850 top of me, on my throat, choking me out. And 00:07:36.850 --> 00:07:40.790 I fought so hard. I was being killed. I couldn't 00:07:40.790 --> 00:07:44.050 breathe. And I fought and I pushed. It felt like 00:07:44.050 --> 00:07:47.370 a barbell across my throat and 500 pounds. And 00:07:47.370 --> 00:07:50.149 I pushed this thing off with all my might. This 00:07:50.149 --> 00:07:54.529 black shadow scurried off to the right as the 00:07:54.519 --> 00:07:56.879 Shadows scurried off. I looked up and there was 00:07:56.879 --> 00:08:01.279 a balcony above me. It was really dimly lit and 00:08:01.279 --> 00:08:05.540 it was my neighbor that had passed away in 1986. 00:08:06.199 --> 00:08:09.019 He was standing there. I had been best friends 00:08:09.019 --> 00:08:11.860 with his daughter growing up and he had his arms 00:08:11.860 --> 00:08:13.980 crossed like this and he looked pretty upset 00:08:13.980 --> 00:08:18.540 that I was where I was at. He then floated from 00:08:18.540 --> 00:08:21.879 the top of this balcony to my face and basically 00:08:21.879 --> 00:08:25.470 touched noses with me. and then he floated back 00:08:25.470 --> 00:08:29.350 up onto this balcony. I looked over to my left, 00:08:29.689 --> 00:08:33.409 and my mom was standing there. My mom was still 00:08:33.409 --> 00:08:36.470 alive at the time she passed away a year later, 00:08:36.649 --> 00:08:40.129 actually. She was standing there, also looking 00:08:40.129 --> 00:08:44.509 really upset that I was in this position. And 00:08:44.509 --> 00:08:46.990 then as I looked over, trying to figure out where 00:08:46.990 --> 00:08:51.230 I was at, the room lit up in a golden amber light, 00:08:51.509 --> 00:08:56.179 this warm, loving light. and Jesus glided out 00:08:56.179 --> 00:08:59.519 of this doorway. He didn't speak, but he had 00:08:59.519 --> 00:09:04.059 the long brown hair, a white gown full of light. 00:09:04.419 --> 00:09:07.200 He just shone so bright. And he just stared at 00:09:07.200 --> 00:09:12.200 me. He didn't speak to me. I looked over to my 00:09:12.200 --> 00:09:16.080 left and my ex -husband was also on the floor 00:09:16.080 --> 00:09:19.299 with me in this near death. He was chained down 00:09:19.299 --> 00:09:23.019 and looked horrified that he was there. When 00:09:23.019 --> 00:09:26.200 the room lit up I could look behind me and there 00:09:26.200 --> 00:09:29.039 were entities sitting behind me almost like we 00:09:29.039 --> 00:09:33.039 were in a courtroom and behind Yahshua or Jesus 00:09:33.039 --> 00:09:35.940 there were little balls of light kind of bubbling 00:09:35.940 --> 00:09:40.360 around on this balcony. As I was looking around 00:09:40.360 --> 00:09:44.779 a lightning bolt came down out of nowhere and 00:09:44.779 --> 00:09:49.440 a brilliant lightning bolt, powerful. The vividness 00:09:49.440 --> 00:09:52.250 of this lightning bolt I deal with flashbacks 00:09:52.250 --> 00:09:56.789 daily. And it struck me in the chest. It made 00:09:56.789 --> 00:10:00.750 this thunderous boom. Within that boom came the 00:10:00.750 --> 00:10:04.970 voice that said, make your decision, commanding 00:10:04.970 --> 00:10:08.429 me to make my decision. I lurched up. I could 00:10:08.429 --> 00:10:11.070 hear the chains rattling. I just had just realized 00:10:11.070 --> 00:10:14.409 that I was chained down as well. And I sat up 00:10:14.409 --> 00:10:18.289 and I screamed, I want my babies. In that moment, 00:10:19.289 --> 00:10:24.299 with God and in this scene, I reacted physically 00:10:24.299 --> 00:10:28.379 as well. Nine people had to hold me down in the 00:10:28.379 --> 00:10:33.080 ICU. April 20th of this past year of 2024, I 00:10:33.080 --> 00:10:35.840 was scrolling through TikTok and a video popped 00:10:35.840 --> 00:10:40.340 up and it was the tomb of Jesus. And I watched 00:10:40.340 --> 00:10:43.799 this video and realized that is where I was in 00:10:43.799 --> 00:10:47.200 my near death. I come from a family of no faith. 00:10:47.779 --> 00:10:51.940 My dad was a 19 50s altar boy who was abused 00:10:51.940 --> 00:10:54.679 in the Catholic Church. So we were just told 00:10:54.679 --> 00:10:57.179 to stay away from the church and we didn't really 00:10:57.179 --> 00:11:00.059 have a relationship with God or anything. So 00:11:00.059 --> 00:11:02.259 I didn't know the tomb of Jesus even existed 00:11:02.259 --> 00:11:05.519 until I saw that video and I realized that's 00:11:05.519 --> 00:11:08.860 where I was in this near -death. I was in the 00:11:08.860 --> 00:11:13.399 tomb of Jesus. Wow. Okay. I want to unpack a 00:11:13.399 --> 00:11:15.740 little bit of this before we move on further 00:11:15.740 --> 00:11:18.840 if you're okay with that. Mm -hmm. Did you feel 00:11:18.840 --> 00:11:21.279 like there was a time that you left your body? 00:11:21.700 --> 00:11:26.860 Yes. Okay. Because I'm trying to sort of figure 00:11:26.860 --> 00:11:29.960 out where you someplace else, but then you remember 00:11:29.960 --> 00:11:33.039 being held down in the ER. So it sounds like 00:11:33.039 --> 00:11:35.820 you were kind of in and out. Is that how you 00:11:35.820 --> 00:11:40.159 felt? I was outside. It's like I had an awareness 00:11:40.159 --> 00:11:43.899 of everything going on in the near death and 00:11:43.899 --> 00:11:48.429 in the physical reality. So I was There and there. 00:11:49.029 --> 00:11:51.230 I actually knew nine people held me down. I didn't 00:11:51.230 --> 00:11:53.950 ask. Well, I had a vision of some people running 00:11:53.950 --> 00:11:57.509 in and holding me down. And I asked my brother 00:11:57.509 --> 00:12:00.350 and my sister, did nine people come in and hold 00:12:00.350 --> 00:12:03.289 me down? And they were like, yes, how did you 00:12:03.289 --> 00:12:07.330 know? And I just knew how my new nine people 00:12:07.330 --> 00:12:09.809 had held me down. I do have other out of body 00:12:09.809 --> 00:12:12.950 experiences where I was standing shoulder to 00:12:12.950 --> 00:12:15.559 shoulder. My brother was here. My ex -husband 00:12:15.559 --> 00:12:18.240 was here and I was standing between them. And 00:12:18.240 --> 00:12:20.039 we were both, we were all looking at my body 00:12:20.039 --> 00:12:23.700 in the ICU bed. And my brother said, what if 00:12:23.700 --> 00:12:26.480 she doesn't make it? And my ex -husband said, 00:12:26.519 --> 00:12:30.179 I don't know. And I could actually recount that 00:12:30.179 --> 00:12:33.360 when I came out of my coma. I do have the vision 00:12:33.360 --> 00:12:36.659 of that. So you were out of body. They were not. 00:12:37.139 --> 00:12:41.879 They were alive. And you were Having their kind 00:12:41.879 --> 00:12:44.639 of perspective on what was going on or as if 00:12:44.639 --> 00:12:47.000 you were kind of standing over their shoulder 00:12:47.000 --> 00:12:50.120 Wow, that's interesting. Yeah, this is kind of 00:12:50.120 --> 00:12:52.799 different. All right, you saw this figure of 00:12:52.799 --> 00:12:56.820 Jesus How did you know it was him? Was it because 00:12:56.820 --> 00:12:59.700 he looked like the pictures? That you've seen 00:12:59.700 --> 00:13:02.080 or was there some other way that you felt it 00:13:02.080 --> 00:13:05.539 was him just by looking at him I knew but also 00:13:05.539 --> 00:13:08.360 by the pictures the white gown his his light 00:13:08.360 --> 00:13:11.389 was brilliant. It was almost blinding So it's 00:13:11.389 --> 00:13:12.710 just one of those things where I was like, oh, 00:13:12.730 --> 00:13:15.730 that's Jesus. That's amazing. You just automatically 00:13:15.730 --> 00:13:19.250 knew. Automatically knew. Okay. Now the tomb 00:13:19.250 --> 00:13:24.350 of Jesus, is this the one over in Jerusalem that 00:13:24.350 --> 00:13:27.850 it's hewn out of rock and it has like a circle 00:13:27.850 --> 00:13:31.450 kind of thing over? Okay. So you felt like you 00:13:31.450 --> 00:13:35.230 were in that place being held down. Wow. Okay, 00:13:35.230 --> 00:13:37.029 I want to hear more about the lightning bolt. 00:13:37.289 --> 00:13:40.299 That's unusual too. It just came out of nowhere, 00:13:40.580 --> 00:13:44.340 out of thin air. It scared me so bad to my core. 00:13:44.659 --> 00:13:47.600 The power that came from it, the light was so 00:13:47.600 --> 00:13:50.580 blinding. Like it just blinded me and I got mad. 00:13:50.899 --> 00:13:52.879 I didn't get scared at that point. Then I got 00:13:52.879 --> 00:13:55.759 mad and I yelled at this lightning bolt that 00:13:55.759 --> 00:14:00.379 I wanted my babies. And it said, make your decision. 00:14:00.980 --> 00:14:04.159 And the decision I assume was stay here or go 00:14:04.159 --> 00:14:07.860 back. I believe so, to either stay where I was 00:14:07.860 --> 00:14:12.340 or Go back. But that wasn't Jesus talking. No, 00:14:12.399 --> 00:14:16.019 that was God. Okay. That was my God. But you 00:14:16.019 --> 00:14:20.200 got upset with this God. Yes, I got mad and I 00:14:20.200 --> 00:14:23.360 screamed at him. Of course, children do scream 00:14:23.360 --> 00:14:25.379 at their parents sometimes, don't they? Right. 00:14:25.659 --> 00:14:28.960 That's so true. Wow. I'm just wondering what 00:14:28.960 --> 00:14:31.419 else you felt through this. Were there times 00:14:31.419 --> 00:14:34.399 of fear and times of peace? What kinds of things 00:14:34.399 --> 00:14:37.690 did you feel? It was mostly terrifying. I was 00:14:37.690 --> 00:14:41.730 panicking. It felt like a never -ending dream, 00:14:41.929 --> 00:14:44.409 but it felt too real to be a dream. It was too 00:14:44.409 --> 00:14:48.169 vivid in color, but mostly it was distressing. 00:14:48.649 --> 00:14:51.830 I came back really afraid and I have PTSD now 00:14:51.830 --> 00:14:55.629 because of it. I get daily flashbacks. Even with 00:14:55.629 --> 00:14:59.029 the Jesus part, it was distressing. Yes, because 00:14:59.029 --> 00:15:02.470 there was more to it. After I screamed at God, 00:15:03.090 --> 00:15:05.889 then I was on the soul work, what felt like soul 00:15:05.889 --> 00:15:09.740 work. In one particular, I was looking for a 00:15:09.740 --> 00:15:14.879 girl named Mary and I was running through Milwaukee 00:15:14.879 --> 00:15:18.259 bars trying to find Mary. And I can remember 00:15:18.259 --> 00:15:20.899 running through it had wood paneling. I could 00:15:20.899 --> 00:15:23.159 remember details like the bar was over here running 00:15:23.159 --> 00:15:25.919 through there was like a gambling machine and 00:15:25.919 --> 00:15:29.000 a wood paneling wall. And I'm screaming for this 00:15:29.000 --> 00:15:31.500 girl named Mary. I don't know who Mary is. I 00:15:31.500 --> 00:15:33.820 don't know what she looks like, but I am running 00:15:33.820 --> 00:15:36.779 through these scenes trying to find Mary. In 00:15:36.779 --> 00:15:39.120 the next scene, I was at a trap house, a drug 00:15:39.120 --> 00:15:42.000 house. Blue walls, the disco ball was going, 00:15:42.120 --> 00:15:45.139 music was going. The floor was really sticky. 00:15:45.620 --> 00:15:47.799 I was scared. Again, don't know who Mary is, 00:15:47.799 --> 00:15:50.600 why I'm looking for her. But eventually I got, 00:15:50.600 --> 00:15:53.879 my soul got tired and I fell asleep on the sticky 00:15:53.879 --> 00:15:58.279 blue walled room. And then in the next scene, 00:15:58.279 --> 00:16:02.659 I am at a church and I can remember looking up 00:16:02.659 --> 00:16:05.139 at the church, seeing the brick on the walls. 00:16:05.769 --> 00:16:08.649 and running into the door, going into the church, 00:16:08.909 --> 00:16:11.470 screaming for this Mary, so afraid I can't find 00:16:11.470 --> 00:16:15.649 her. And I run up the stairs and I come to an 00:16:15.649 --> 00:16:18.129 open area that kind of looks like a kitchen and 00:16:18.129 --> 00:16:21.889 there's a nun carrying a baby. And I screamed, 00:16:22.129 --> 00:16:25.250 is that Mary? And the lady looked at me and she 00:16:25.250 --> 00:16:28.870 said, yes, this is Mary. And I put my hand on 00:16:28.870 --> 00:16:33.590 Mary and I said, thank God I found Mary. And 00:16:33.590 --> 00:16:36.700 when I said those words, my near -death changed 00:16:36.700 --> 00:16:39.840 into a more peaceful scene. So there are some 00:16:39.840 --> 00:16:42.879 commonalities here with distressing experiences. 00:16:43.220 --> 00:16:45.899 And that is that they often go from scene to 00:16:45.899 --> 00:16:49.120 scene to scene, sort of like you're explaining. 00:16:49.779 --> 00:16:53.519 And some are even much, much more horrific than 00:16:53.519 --> 00:16:56.899 what you had to go through. I know you've studied 00:16:56.899 --> 00:17:00.019 a few of those too. Okay, keep going. What else 00:17:00.019 --> 00:17:02.419 was there that happened? Well that was pretty 00:17:02.419 --> 00:17:04.680 much the end of the distressing. I had more out 00:17:04.680 --> 00:17:07.859 of body experiences. There is one where I was 00:17:07.859 --> 00:17:10.480 sitting, this is part of the distressing, where 00:17:10.480 --> 00:17:14.519 I was sitting in a room full of plastic and there's 00:17:14.519 --> 00:17:17.319 a chandelier behind me and this room is just 00:17:17.319 --> 00:17:20.220 walled off in plastic and I'm sitting on a ledge 00:17:20.220 --> 00:17:22.980 and I'm waiting and I don't and I'm scared, I'm 00:17:22.980 --> 00:17:26.059 lonely, it's cold, it's dreary, it's kind of 00:17:26.059 --> 00:17:29.619 like just a dreary crappy day type of feeling. 00:17:29.930 --> 00:17:34.329 I knew I was in the void or the abyss. I could 00:17:34.329 --> 00:17:39.069 feel it. And I was waiting for my cousins. They 00:17:39.069 --> 00:17:43.289 arrive eventually. I see my oldest cousin Tony 00:17:43.289 --> 00:17:46.970 come up. His wife is there. And he says, we're 00:17:46.970 --> 00:17:50.750 waiting for their sons. And I follow them around. 00:17:51.369 --> 00:17:53.450 They don't know that I'm there. They can't hear 00:17:53.450 --> 00:17:56.390 me talking, trying to wave my arms, get their 00:17:56.390 --> 00:18:00.150 attention. The boys finally arrive. and they're 00:18:00.150 --> 00:18:02.450 working on this house. But again, it's scary 00:18:02.450 --> 00:18:04.690 because nobody could see me, nobody could hear 00:18:04.690 --> 00:18:07.509 me, nobody could help me. I was just so lonely 00:18:07.509 --> 00:18:11.230 in this space that I was in. And I did talk to 00:18:11.230 --> 00:18:14.650 my cousin post -coma and he can verify that he 00:18:14.650 --> 00:18:18.210 was actually at his lake house that weekend working 00:18:18.210 --> 00:18:21.529 on his house that was under construction. And 00:18:21.529 --> 00:18:24.150 I'd only been there one other time 10 years before. 00:18:24.509 --> 00:18:27.170 So a lot of it was out of body experiences as 00:18:27.170 --> 00:18:30.099 well. which was terrifying when you don't understand 00:18:30.099 --> 00:18:33.079 where are you, you know, and to have such detail 00:18:33.079 --> 00:18:36.480 afterwards. How did this all come to an end? 00:18:36.519 --> 00:18:38.980 I know you were in the hospital for quite some 00:18:38.980 --> 00:18:42.640 time. I was in the hospital for about 40 days 00:18:42.640 --> 00:18:45.420 and I want to backtrack to Mary real quick. Come 00:18:45.420 --> 00:18:48.460 to find out later on after talking to my mom. 00:18:49.099 --> 00:18:52.740 My mom had a baby sister named Mary who had died 00:18:52.740 --> 00:18:55.680 shortly after childbirth. It bothered my mom 00:18:55.680 --> 00:18:57.779 every day that she didn't know what happened 00:18:57.779 --> 00:19:02.440 to Mary. So I do believe that I did some soul 00:19:02.440 --> 00:19:06.599 work for my family to find baby Mary. That's 00:19:06.599 --> 00:19:09.579 the only thing that makes sense was that my mom 00:19:09.579 --> 00:19:13.160 had a sister named Mary that passed away at birth. 00:19:13.539 --> 00:19:16.119 And it always bothered my mom that she could 00:19:16.119 --> 00:19:18.279 never figure out where Mary was buried or what 00:19:18.279 --> 00:19:21.380 happened to her. So I do feel like that was the 00:19:21.380 --> 00:19:24.630 soul work. That I needed to do for my family 00:19:24.630 --> 00:19:27.410 was to locate Mary. All right. How's your life 00:19:27.410 --> 00:19:30.509 changed from all of this? I've lost everybody 00:19:30.509 --> 00:19:33.950 basically I had a spiritual awakening seven months 00:19:33.950 --> 00:19:36.950 after coming out of the coma and That scared 00:19:36.950 --> 00:19:40.309 them. They were around when I had a couple my 00:19:40.309 --> 00:19:42.990 awakenings and suddenly I was able to channel 00:19:42.990 --> 00:19:47.549 and Have mystical things happen to me. So that 00:19:47.549 --> 00:19:51.130 scared them. I have a relationship with my youngest 00:19:51.349 --> 00:19:54.609 but my older two just have kind of went the wrong 00:19:54.609 --> 00:19:57.769 way for a while. It's just kind of keep mom at 00:19:57.769 --> 00:20:01.710 a distance. So I'm trying to deal with life without 00:20:01.710 --> 00:20:05.329 really being a mom right now. I end up getting 00:20:05.329 --> 00:20:09.230 a divorce. I can't work and I do have trouble 00:20:09.230 --> 00:20:12.869 working just because of the PTSD and the complex 00:20:12.869 --> 00:20:16.170 trauma. This hurled me into a healing journey 00:20:16.170 --> 00:20:19.390 that I was not prepared for after the spiritual 00:20:19.390 --> 00:20:22.470 awakening, all of my trauma. came to the surface. 00:20:22.910 --> 00:20:25.849 So I'm still working on that and building myself 00:20:25.849 --> 00:20:28.809 back up. But I can channel. I connect to Spirit. 00:20:28.910 --> 00:20:32.369 I can connect to God. The universe gives me little 00:20:32.369 --> 00:20:35.089 winks here and there to let me know that I'm 00:20:35.089 --> 00:20:38.049 doing okay. But I've pretty much lost my life. 00:20:38.509 --> 00:20:41.950 I lost my house. I got divorced. The house went 00:20:41.950 --> 00:20:45.880 up for sale. The car got repode. Right now I 00:20:45.880 --> 00:20:48.759 kind of feel like a sad country song. It's not 00:20:48.759 --> 00:20:51.039 funny, but I'm glad you can laugh about it a 00:20:51.039 --> 00:20:54.740 little bit. That is so rough. Yeah. That is so 00:20:54.740 --> 00:20:57.440 rough. How's the recovery from alcohol going? 00:20:57.880 --> 00:21:01.839 I couldn't really do AA. I needed to go right 00:21:01.839 --> 00:21:06.279 with God. So I can actually just thank God because 00:21:06.279 --> 00:21:08.799 it's just been something I needed to deal with 00:21:08.799 --> 00:21:11.819 personally with God. And so it's been great. 00:21:11.900 --> 00:21:15.160 I've been sober. I don't drink. If I'm around 00:21:15.160 --> 00:21:19.539 alcohol, I get nauseous. So congrats on that. 00:21:19.680 --> 00:21:23.599 That is a tough, tough journey. Are you glad 00:21:23.599 --> 00:21:25.859 that you were given that ultimatum from your 00:21:25.859 --> 00:21:29.359 daughter? Was that a good thing? She's my angel, 00:21:29.619 --> 00:21:32.680 the one that saved me. Yes, I thank her as much 00:21:32.680 --> 00:21:34.519 as she'll allow me to. I think she's getting 00:21:34.519 --> 00:21:37.700 tired of me thanking her, but I do. Yeah, I do 00:21:37.700 --> 00:21:41.539 thank her. Could you use that as advice for other 00:21:41.539 --> 00:21:44.539 families going through something like this? Yes. 00:21:44.859 --> 00:21:47.380 The alcoholism destroyed my relationship and 00:21:47.380 --> 00:21:50.380 tore me apart as a mom. It's been hard to connect 00:21:50.380 --> 00:21:53.119 to being a mom again after you've destroyed your 00:21:53.119 --> 00:21:55.940 own family. Yeah. All right. Let's talk about 00:21:55.940 --> 00:21:58.680 something fun for a change. A little change of 00:21:58.680 --> 00:22:01.200 mood here. And that is we're going to talk about 00:22:01.200 --> 00:22:04.579 electronics. I've had some people on the show 00:22:04.579 --> 00:22:07.869 that This didn't happen before their NDEs, but 00:22:07.869 --> 00:22:11.690 after their NDEs they had unusual things happen 00:22:11.690 --> 00:22:15.569 with electronics such as wristwatches would stop 00:22:15.569 --> 00:22:19.630 working, cell phones wouldn't work, etc. And 00:22:19.630 --> 00:22:21.990 you were telling me just a couple of little things 00:22:21.990 --> 00:22:24.029 like that. Tell me what's going on with you. 00:22:24.210 --> 00:22:27.869 And this only came up because when we first started 00:22:27.869 --> 00:22:31.450 recording everything quit and didn't work and 00:22:31.450 --> 00:22:35.119 we had to start over again. Give me some examples 00:22:35.119 --> 00:22:38.980 of what happens to you. I was at Barnes and Noble 00:22:38.980 --> 00:22:42.519 one day checking out. The whole computer system 00:22:42.519 --> 00:22:44.960 shut down. A couple of times I've been at my 00:22:44.960 --> 00:22:48.539 local library checking out books and the self 00:22:48.539 --> 00:22:52.299 -checkout will crash and I have to have them 00:22:52.299 --> 00:22:55.640 reboot it. Electronics, they drain a lot when 00:22:55.640 --> 00:22:58.319 I'm channeling or when there's a lot of high 00:22:58.319 --> 00:23:02.039 vibrational energy around me. My phone will drain 00:23:02.039 --> 00:23:05.279 pretty quick. You mean the battery will go like 00:23:05.279 --> 00:23:09.720 from 100 % to 20 % in a couple of minutes? Yes. 00:23:09.839 --> 00:23:14.039 On my computer, it'll just shut down completely. 00:23:14.539 --> 00:23:17.319 Just out of nowhere. Sometimes if my phone is 00:23:17.319 --> 00:23:20.619 glitching, if I blow on it, it's enough to get 00:23:20.619 --> 00:23:22.960 it to stop glitching. So you always see me blowing 00:23:22.960 --> 00:23:26.500 on my... Yeah, I can blow on my phone and it'll 00:23:26.500 --> 00:23:29.420 stop glitching. Okay. Just letting people know. 00:23:30.059 --> 00:23:32.660 When they see Nicole blowing on her phone, there's 00:23:32.660 --> 00:23:34.539 a good reason for it. There's a good reason. 00:23:35.259 --> 00:23:38.920 Okay. Anything else? How about gas pumps? Nothing 00:23:38.920 --> 00:23:42.619 on gas pumps yet. Okay. Good. All right, Nicole. 00:23:42.759 --> 00:23:45.140 Well, this has been a roller coaster, but you 00:23:45.140 --> 00:23:48.039 know, congrats on coming along. This has been 00:23:48.039 --> 00:23:50.619 a rough journey for you and just keep hanging 00:23:50.619 --> 00:23:53.859 in there. Cause my mom used to always say, keep 00:23:53.859 --> 00:23:57.869 your chin up. Yes. All right. Give us some final 00:23:57.869 --> 00:23:59.630 thoughts here. I'm going to give you the last 00:23:59.630 --> 00:24:03.589 word. Give thanks to our Creator, to the universe. 00:24:03.890 --> 00:24:06.609 I don't think us humans give gratitude like we 00:24:06.609 --> 00:24:09.509 should to the bigger picture of things, especially 00:24:09.509 --> 00:24:12.450 right now with everything going on in the world. 00:24:12.710 --> 00:24:16.210 We definitely need to look at higher powers to 00:24:16.210 --> 00:24:18.950 try to pull us out. I'm living testimony that 00:24:18.950 --> 00:24:22.809 I have nothing living out of my car and borrowing 00:24:22.809 --> 00:24:25.269 the space to be able to do this interview, but 00:24:25.269 --> 00:24:29.250 I keep my faith. every day. And I know that God 00:24:29.250 --> 00:24:32.630 and the universe and my angels and my ancestor 00:24:32.630 --> 00:24:35.650 spirit team, they're all working in my favor, 00:24:35.829 --> 00:24:38.869 trying to get me the best life possible. And 00:24:38.869 --> 00:24:42.690 it takes a strong person to really put faith 00:24:42.690 --> 00:24:47.509 into invisible forces. Okay, well said. Well, 00:24:47.549 --> 00:24:50.549 Nicole, thanks for being with me today. And just 00:24:50.549 --> 00:24:54.380 a reminder, If anybody listening or a loved one, 00:24:54.660 --> 00:24:57.500 there's a great crisis hotline out there. Just 00:24:57.500 --> 00:25:00.680 dial 988 on your phone from nearly anywhere in 00:25:00.680 --> 00:25:04.819 the world and you can talk to somebody and get 00:25:04.819 --> 00:25:08.200 some help. So be sure to do that. We want you 00:25:08.200 --> 00:25:10.980 to stay here and you can work through these tough 00:25:10.980 --> 00:25:14.019 things. Nicole's a good example of that. Absolutely. 00:25:14.700 --> 00:25:20.200 I'm a walking miracle. I shouldn't be here. 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