WEBVTT 00:00:03.749 --> 00:00:06.730 From the time that they pronounced me dead was 00:00:06.730 --> 00:00:10.210 a good 45 minutes. They cut my clothes and then 00:00:10.210 --> 00:00:13.130 they paddled. My heart, my heart had stopped 00:00:13.130 --> 00:00:16.129 and I could see people screaming and crying but 00:00:16.129 --> 00:00:18.589 I didn't realize that was actually my physical 00:00:18.589 --> 00:00:22.010 body because I was somewhere else. The only thing 00:00:22.010 --> 00:00:25.390 that I could feel if you could imagine absolute 00:00:25.390 --> 00:00:28.510 love and peace there wasn't anything else to 00:00:28.510 --> 00:00:31.600 be felt. I was greeted by people I'd known in 00:00:31.600 --> 00:00:35.079 the past. I'm back home again. Incredibly safe 00:00:35.079 --> 00:00:40.000 and felt at home. Welcome, welcome to Round Trip 00:00:40.000 --> 00:00:42.200 Death, everybody. We're going to have so much 00:00:42.200 --> 00:00:45.179 fun today with a really interesting experience. 00:00:45.280 --> 00:00:48.420 In fact, make it two near -death experiences 00:00:48.420 --> 00:00:51.579 that we're going to be talking about with Mario 00:00:51.579 --> 00:00:55.960 Quinones Ravalori. Please tell me I got that 00:00:55.960 --> 00:00:59.390 close, Mario. Very good. You did it better than 00:00:59.390 --> 00:01:02.869 Godzilla. All right. Thank you. I appreciate 00:01:02.869 --> 00:01:06.129 it. We're going to talk about an experience that 00:01:06.129 --> 00:01:08.030 happened to you very young when you were only 00:01:08.030 --> 00:01:10.670 nine years old, and then one that happened a 00:01:10.670 --> 00:01:13.569 little bit later in life. But before we jump 00:01:13.569 --> 00:01:16.950 in, I want to get to know who Mario is. Tell 00:01:16.950 --> 00:01:20.290 us just a little bit about you. Yeah, yeah. I'm 00:01:20.290 --> 00:01:25.840 Mario, and I'm the father of actor Tony. the 00:01:25.840 --> 00:01:29.079 voluntary best known for their role of Flash 00:01:29.079 --> 00:01:34.400 Thompson in Spider -Man and Zero Mustafa in that 00:01:34.400 --> 00:01:37.079 world -winning movie called The Grand Budapest 00:01:37.079 --> 00:01:43.180 Hotel. And I'm an author, an author, a publicist, 00:01:43.239 --> 00:01:47.980 and a singer or songwriter. And I love the arts 00:01:47.980 --> 00:01:51.980 and the entertainment industry. I have worked 00:01:51.980 --> 00:01:59.310 for Hollywood almost all my life, and I'm a biologist 00:01:59.310 --> 00:02:03.629 and a creative writer. I graduated from the Cass 00:02:03.629 --> 00:02:07.209 State University Fullerton here in California. 00:02:08.729 --> 00:02:12.610 Currently I live in North Hollywood, California, 00:02:13.129 --> 00:02:17.370 next to Burbank. Well, welcome to the show. We 00:02:17.370 --> 00:02:19.650 hope you feel comfortable. We're just going to 00:02:19.650 --> 00:02:22.229 have a nice chit chat today, a little discussion. 00:02:23.050 --> 00:02:26.270 So thank you again for being here. Let's just 00:02:26.270 --> 00:02:28.789 jump right in. I want to know what happened when 00:02:28.789 --> 00:02:31.430 you were nine years old. That's so young to have 00:02:31.430 --> 00:02:35.229 some kind of an experience. It was one afternoon. 00:02:36.430 --> 00:02:40.710 My dad took me to a corn field field that he 00:02:40.710 --> 00:02:46.669 had to watch out for the plantation that he had 00:02:46.669 --> 00:02:50.849 just sown. like a week ago, and then we went 00:02:50.849 --> 00:02:56.210 and sat next to a tall tree for shade. All of 00:02:56.210 --> 00:03:02.370 a sudden I felt a pain on my chest, and then 00:03:02.370 --> 00:03:08.629 I started to twist. My neck went around, my head 00:03:08.629 --> 00:03:13.150 actually went around my neck and it almost got 00:03:13.150 --> 00:03:16.569 to my back, and my chest bent all the way to 00:03:16.569 --> 00:03:19.530 my knee. My dad knew that I couldn't control 00:03:19.530 --> 00:03:22.610 the pain, and he took me in his arms and brought 00:03:22.610 --> 00:03:25.870 me back to the house. And once in the house, 00:03:25.870 --> 00:03:31.370 he put me in bed, and he went to the local town 00:03:31.370 --> 00:03:34.949 doctor, brought him home, and he said that I 00:03:34.949 --> 00:03:38.210 was going to die that night. And suddenly I died, 00:03:38.210 --> 00:03:43.129 and he gave me a shot. But he said, if he survived, 00:03:44.009 --> 00:03:46.500 then he's not going to die. He took my dad and 00:03:46.500 --> 00:03:50.599 then go back to my office tomorrow and then bring 00:03:50.599 --> 00:03:54.280 me back. And I give him another shot. Yeah, I 00:03:54.280 --> 00:03:59.860 died then and I went to this place. My brothers 00:03:59.860 --> 00:04:02.840 and sisters, my mom and my dad were praying. 00:04:02.960 --> 00:04:06.639 He had already come back from taking back the 00:04:06.639 --> 00:04:10.379 doctor to his office. And he was with me. They 00:04:10.379 --> 00:04:13.300 were praying and crying and everything because 00:04:13.300 --> 00:04:17.670 I was the oldest one. for my dad. And then I 00:04:17.670 --> 00:04:21.029 went to these places and I saw tunnels, light 00:04:21.029 --> 00:04:25.990 beams, fluorescent and different colors. And 00:04:25.990 --> 00:04:29.829 I stayed there for 15 minutes. And my dad was 00:04:29.829 --> 00:04:33.389 praying, like I said, but then all of a sudden 00:04:33.389 --> 00:04:38.129 I came back. I told my dad, why did you bring 00:04:38.129 --> 00:04:42.110 me back here? I did what? I want to stay in heaven. 00:04:42.189 --> 00:04:45.720 It was so cool and so precious. I'd rather live 00:04:45.720 --> 00:04:48.899 there than here. My dad, remember he said, no 00:04:48.899 --> 00:04:52.420 son, I never want you to come back. If you're 00:04:52.420 --> 00:04:55.680 going to stay over there, I just let you be there. 00:04:56.160 --> 00:04:59.139 It's just, that's what happened. And I'm praying 00:04:59.139 --> 00:05:02.399 for you. I love you son and whatever, but I know 00:05:02.399 --> 00:05:07.300 it's his God's decision. He's in control and 00:05:07.300 --> 00:05:10.860 whatever he wants to do. I came back and then 00:05:10.860 --> 00:05:13.660 I remember I saw the most beautiful thing in 00:05:13.660 --> 00:05:18.040 heaven and that it was light everywhere, colored 00:05:18.040 --> 00:05:23.040 lights, figures. And then, you know, I never 00:05:23.040 --> 00:05:27.139 saw anybody or any human being or angels or anything. 00:05:27.360 --> 00:05:31.899 I just saw lights, the sky full of light. And 00:05:31.899 --> 00:05:36.720 I saw trees and everything, but made out of fluorescent, 00:05:37.500 --> 00:05:40.680 bright lights. That's all about my spirit, the 00:05:40.680 --> 00:05:44.480 first spirit. Well, before we talk about the 00:05:44.480 --> 00:05:47.779 next one, are there any other details that you 00:05:47.779 --> 00:05:51.300 remember? And I don't want you to create any, 00:05:51.339 --> 00:05:53.800 but if there are specific things you remember 00:05:53.800 --> 00:05:57.259 about, for example, the lights, were they all 00:05:57.259 --> 00:06:00.620 white and bright? Were some colored? And you 00:06:00.620 --> 00:06:03.720 mentioned a sky. Give me a little more detail. 00:06:05.020 --> 00:06:08.399 The lights were colorful and they were like kind 00:06:08.399 --> 00:06:13.000 of beams, you know, the straight beams and then 00:06:13.000 --> 00:06:19.360 the curved beams of light and like tunnels and 00:06:19.360 --> 00:06:22.959 the roads made out of light that I wanted to 00:06:22.959 --> 00:06:26.439 get into, but I couldn't. And then it wasn't 00:06:26.439 --> 00:06:29.860 that long experience. I came back in like 15 00:06:29.860 --> 00:06:33.870 minutes. And then my dad was over there in bed 00:06:33.870 --> 00:06:38.410 with me when I came back. One thing that they 00:06:38.410 --> 00:06:42.329 told the townspeople was in the village, small 00:06:42.329 --> 00:06:45.470 village where I was, they informed the neighbors 00:06:45.470 --> 00:06:50.209 that I have died to go and attend for my funeral 00:06:50.209 --> 00:06:54.589 that was gonna take place that night. Yeah, but 00:06:54.589 --> 00:06:58.449 it did happen because I came. That's a problem 00:06:58.449 --> 00:07:01.029 when there's a funeral, but there's no dead person 00:07:01.029 --> 00:07:08.189 there. I'm so happy for you. Oh, kind of interesting 00:07:08.189 --> 00:07:10.649 that you said you didn't want to come back. You 00:07:10.649 --> 00:07:15.269 told your father. Why was that? Because it was 00:07:15.269 --> 00:07:19.149 beautiful, beautiful. At that age, I mean, I 00:07:19.149 --> 00:07:23.209 was a poor boy and people used to do, how do 00:07:23.209 --> 00:07:25.819 you call this? and make fun of you all the time 00:07:25.819 --> 00:07:30.259 and they treat you bad, okay? And they did that, 00:07:30.639 --> 00:07:34.259 all the neighbors, and so I was tired there because 00:07:34.259 --> 00:07:38.660 my dad was poor and I was, all my brothers and 00:07:38.660 --> 00:07:41.699 sisters were light skinned, you know, and my 00:07:41.699 --> 00:07:45.000 friends and my relatives, my cousins, and blue 00:07:45.000 --> 00:07:47.699 eyes and everything, like white people. And I 00:07:47.699 --> 00:07:51.060 was dark, so people hated me because of that, 00:07:51.060 --> 00:07:53.629 and they used to call me names. because of the 00:07:53.629 --> 00:07:57.250 color of my skin. So you were bullied. Is that 00:07:57.250 --> 00:07:59.970 the word you were looking for? Looking for, yeah, 00:08:00.029 --> 00:08:04.970 I was bullied all the time by children and by 00:08:04.970 --> 00:08:08.990 adults. And that's what got me so bad. It was 00:08:08.990 --> 00:08:14.009 the one time, it's not part of the going to heaven, 00:08:14.629 --> 00:08:21.360 but one time a guy named Jesus. He got three 00:08:21.360 --> 00:08:24.360 people to fight at one time. My dad told me, 00:08:24.519 --> 00:08:26.899 okay, I'm gonna let Mario go help you. I was 00:08:26.899 --> 00:08:30.680 like eight years old and help you in the fields, 00:08:30.699 --> 00:08:35.399 and I went with him. When we went to his field, 00:08:36.100 --> 00:08:40.799 he met three kids, one of those bully kids. He 00:08:40.799 --> 00:08:43.620 made me fight with three of them, and they beat 00:08:43.620 --> 00:08:46.759 me up so bad. I couldn't tell my dad, because 00:08:46.759 --> 00:08:49.139 if I told my dad, he would never believe me. 00:08:49.320 --> 00:08:52.220 So that's why I didn't want to come back home. 00:08:52.879 --> 00:08:56.019 Oh, I'm so sorry. So you must have felt safe 00:08:56.019 --> 00:09:00.879 there. Yeah, definitely. Do you remember feeling 00:09:00.879 --> 00:09:04.820 anything else? I felt the sensation that like 00:09:04.820 --> 00:09:09.120 I was protected. I was supported and everything 00:09:09.120 --> 00:09:13.399 was good for me. Everything was out of this world. 00:09:13.779 --> 00:09:16.879 I mean, you know, it meant everything for me. 00:09:17.200 --> 00:09:21.120 And they're just the lights, and the roads, and 00:09:21.120 --> 00:09:24.259 the trees, and everything. It was a different, 00:09:24.440 --> 00:09:28.460 not earthly things. So that was my experience 00:09:28.460 --> 00:09:31.480 in there. The first one, it wasn't that big, 00:09:31.840 --> 00:09:35.000 that long, and it wasn't that interesting. But 00:09:35.000 --> 00:09:39.720 the thing is, I came back to life, and I have 00:09:39.720 --> 00:09:46.629 done it two times in different seasons. and ages 00:09:46.629 --> 00:09:50.169 because it was big difference, you know. I was 00:09:50.169 --> 00:09:54.169 just a baby boy. And it took me two years to 00:09:54.169 --> 00:09:58.450 recover from the injury. They took me to a hospital. 00:09:58.750 --> 00:10:03.830 I was hospitalized for about three months and 00:10:03.830 --> 00:10:08.009 then discharged. But it was amazing. It was incredible, 00:10:08.029 --> 00:10:12.190 beautiful. Lights, everything, you know, work 00:10:12.190 --> 00:10:15.919 in color. Physically, what caused it? Was it 00:10:15.919 --> 00:10:19.960 like a heart problem or something else? No, they 00:10:19.960 --> 00:10:27.320 couldn't diagnose what it was. It was just that 00:10:27.320 --> 00:10:32.000 I had like a high temperature, a strong headache 00:10:32.000 --> 00:10:37.679 and pain on my heart. And that made me twist. 00:10:38.559 --> 00:10:41.960 I twisted around and my whole body paralyzed. 00:10:42.279 --> 00:10:46.279 My paralyzed is not like a normal body in a way 00:10:46.279 --> 00:10:53.139 that it turned my head back to my back and then 00:10:53.139 --> 00:10:57.019 my chest went down to my knee like that. Yeah, 00:10:57.039 --> 00:11:00.620 sounds very painful. All right. Did anything 00:11:00.620 --> 00:11:04.019 happen that's unusual between then and when you 00:11:04.019 --> 00:11:08.919 were 47 years old? Oh, many things, many things. 00:11:09.600 --> 00:11:12.700 Any that are related to the experience? Yeah, 00:11:12.899 --> 00:11:17.419 because from that time I started to be chased 00:11:17.419 --> 00:11:23.360 around by demons and by good things. I saw things 00:11:23.360 --> 00:11:26.980 all the time. I couldn't get up and get out of 00:11:26.980 --> 00:11:30.720 bed at night to go take a pee, to go to the restroom 00:11:30.720 --> 00:11:35.960 because I saw demons. Definitely I saw demons. 00:11:36.480 --> 00:11:41.909 And people increased my hate and bullying. And 00:11:41.909 --> 00:11:46.649 one time I was going to be shot. I was put there, 00:11:47.629 --> 00:11:52.669 a killer, one of those guys, bad guys, put a 00:11:52.669 --> 00:11:54.970 gun on my head and told me he was going to kill. 00:11:55.350 --> 00:11:59.070 And my dad was next to me. Many, many things 00:11:59.070 --> 00:12:03.049 happened. I couldn't go out anywhere because 00:12:03.049 --> 00:12:08.129 I saw devils and demons and everything. My dad... 00:12:07.840 --> 00:12:10.659 used to spank me so bad because he said that 00:12:10.659 --> 00:12:13.860 I was a coward. And I was afraid of nothing. 00:12:14.139 --> 00:12:17.220 It wasn't nothing. It was just my imagination. 00:12:17.679 --> 00:12:22.500 But I saw them. I believe you. Okay. Your experience 00:12:22.500 --> 00:12:25.779 when you were 47 years old is very unusual, too. 00:12:25.820 --> 00:12:29.440 Why don't you jump into that one? Sure. That 00:12:29.440 --> 00:12:34.779 time, my relatives, three of my close relatives, 00:12:35.320 --> 00:12:40.289 paid the hire that a professional criminal, a 00:12:40.289 --> 00:12:45.970 headman to kill me. He chased me for six months 00:12:45.970 --> 00:12:48.490 and he told me, he called me on the phone because 00:12:48.490 --> 00:12:51.970 he was giving my whole information and he called 00:12:51.970 --> 00:12:54.370 me all the time and every day and he told me 00:12:54.370 --> 00:12:58.169 where I was, who I was with. And he gaslighted 00:12:58.169 --> 00:13:00.169 me for five months and told me he was going to 00:13:00.169 --> 00:13:04.730 kill me. One time he told me that my God, my 00:13:04.730 --> 00:13:07.730 God wasn't going to be able to to save me, because 00:13:07.730 --> 00:13:11.769 his God was more powerful than my God. So I didn't 00:13:11.769 --> 00:13:14.350 know what, I thought he was joking. But the funny 00:13:14.350 --> 00:13:19.269 thing is that I have this brand in Hollywood, 00:13:20.309 --> 00:13:23.470 working for Hollywood, a casting director, famous 00:13:23.470 --> 00:13:28.090 producer and casting director. And then he impersonated 00:13:28.090 --> 00:13:35.009 him to get to me. So then he hacked. his computer 00:13:35.009 --> 00:13:39.190 and my computer. Every time that I called my 00:13:39.190 --> 00:13:42.389 employer to give me jobs in the entertainment 00:13:42.389 --> 00:13:46.490 business, casting the actual friend, he got to 00:13:46.490 --> 00:13:50.470 me and got back to me in his name, impersonating 00:13:50.470 --> 00:13:54.309 me, right? So I thought I was talking to my friend, 00:13:55.009 --> 00:13:58.409 but then something happened that he was sending 00:13:58.409 --> 00:14:02.059 me pornography and told me. If you don't get 00:14:02.059 --> 00:14:06.240 into pornography with me, I'm gonna kill you. 00:14:07.039 --> 00:14:11.779 And things like that. Forcing me. And so I ignored 00:14:11.779 --> 00:14:16.759 him. But I thought that he was joking. But on 00:14:16.759 --> 00:14:28.100 December 17, 2016, I tried to block it. To block 00:14:28.100 --> 00:14:31.399 him from the computer. And he found out, but 00:14:31.399 --> 00:14:34.639 he thought that I had done it personally, but 00:14:34.639 --> 00:14:39.919 the FBI got into the case. And I reported to 00:14:39.919 --> 00:14:43.159 the Inglewood Police Department here in California. 00:14:44.200 --> 00:14:47.980 And then they say, why the FBI? So it started 00:14:47.980 --> 00:14:53.240 to panic. And then the FBI told me that they 00:14:53.240 --> 00:14:59.289 were gonna give me protection for 70 years. 78 00:14:59.289 --> 00:15:05.190 hours, which is like a week in time, in days 00:15:05.190 --> 00:15:08.830 time. And he kept on pushing me and everything. 00:15:09.730 --> 00:15:12.029 But then the FBI told me that, and they went 00:15:12.029 --> 00:15:16.850 into all my electronic devices, phone, my car, 00:15:17.110 --> 00:15:21.730 my house. They found everything, cameras installed 00:15:21.730 --> 00:15:25.309 inside my house. So he did it on the 18th, on 00:15:25.309 --> 00:15:30.019 the 17th. In the morning, he did it. I went and 00:15:30.019 --> 00:15:35.960 I bought tea from a plant, from herbs. And then 00:15:35.960 --> 00:15:42.320 when he put the venom poison in the cup, in the 00:15:42.320 --> 00:15:47.279 pot, came back and took it and he poisoned me. 00:15:48.360 --> 00:15:51.860 But I found out that three of my relatives have 00:15:51.860 --> 00:15:54.840 paid him because they hired him all the way from 00:15:54.840 --> 00:15:58.649 India. One criminal professional from India, 00:15:59.129 --> 00:16:03.330 professional hit me. So he came here. He came 00:16:03.330 --> 00:16:07.490 in the FBI had. That's why the FBI got into a 00:16:07.490 --> 00:16:11.529 case because they found out that he was a terrorist. 00:16:12.470 --> 00:16:16.830 That he was an American or Hispanic. He was an 00:16:16.830 --> 00:16:21.409 Indian guy. So he poisoned me. On the 18th of 00:16:21.409 --> 00:16:26.029 November, December 18, 2016. and then they took 00:16:26.029 --> 00:16:29.929 me to the hospital. He had paid the ambulance 00:16:29.929 --> 00:16:32.409 drivers and everybody because he was connected 00:16:32.409 --> 00:16:36.289 with everybody. He had gotten a lot of money 00:16:36.289 --> 00:16:40.769 because he had money to pay off everybody and 00:16:40.769 --> 00:16:44.470 anybody. How I found out the ambulance took 45 00:16:44.470 --> 00:16:47.370 minutes to make it to the hospital, to the emergency 00:16:47.370 --> 00:16:52.230 room, a mile distance from my house? Impossible. 00:16:52.600 --> 00:16:58.559 in a logical thinking. And in the hospital, they 00:16:58.559 --> 00:17:02.440 took three days to put me in a room. And then 00:17:02.440 --> 00:17:05.519 I argued with the doctor. When I was discharged 00:17:05.519 --> 00:17:08.960 from the hospital, they didn't want to give me 00:17:08.960 --> 00:17:12.539 a report because they told me, you got a stroke. 00:17:13.220 --> 00:17:15.480 And I fought with the doctor. He said, no, I 00:17:15.480 --> 00:17:20.420 didn't got a stroke. I got poisoned. No, he says. 00:17:20.759 --> 00:17:25.099 And so they did the other studies that said, 00:17:25.839 --> 00:17:28.980 for a stroke, obviously, everything came out 00:17:28.980 --> 00:17:31.940 negative, right? Because I was telling the truth. 00:17:33.079 --> 00:17:36.900 I told the doctor, doctor, I respect you for 00:17:36.900 --> 00:17:40.619 your training, but you are not God. I know more 00:17:40.619 --> 00:17:44.980 than you. Because I was threatened, I was poisoned, 00:17:45.400 --> 00:17:48.640 I took the poison myself, so you don't know and 00:17:48.640 --> 00:17:51.539 you are not going to tell me anything. Because 00:17:51.539 --> 00:17:54.599 I'm not going to agree with you. But again, I 00:17:54.599 --> 00:17:57.660 respect you because you are a doctor. So did 00:17:57.660 --> 00:18:00.119 they do some blood tests to find the poisoning? 00:18:00.660 --> 00:18:03.539 No, they didn't do anything. They just went straight 00:18:03.539 --> 00:18:07.240 to a stroke. Because they say it's stroke and 00:18:07.240 --> 00:18:09.720 you're not going to tell me anything else. So 00:18:09.720 --> 00:18:11.859 was there a point that you actually died from 00:18:11.859 --> 00:18:15.480 this poison? Yeah, I'm going through that right 00:18:15.480 --> 00:18:21.980 now. So then on the 12th day, I was dying. And 00:18:21.980 --> 00:18:27.220 I told my wife, I'm going to die. And then she 00:18:27.220 --> 00:18:29.259 didn't believe it. She was with me in the hospital 00:18:29.259 --> 00:18:33.619 room. And then I was hooked to many, many cables 00:18:33.619 --> 00:18:37.299 and everything. And a nurse was what monitor 00:18:37.299 --> 00:18:40.819 to keep it 24 hours checking on me. And then 00:18:40.819 --> 00:18:47.029 I heard that the nurse said out loud, Oh, I saw 00:18:47.029 --> 00:18:50.509 Mario's aura coming out of him. It's the first 00:18:50.509 --> 00:18:54.190 time that I see that. So I died at that moment. 00:18:54.650 --> 00:18:58.410 And so I stretched my body and all the cables 00:18:58.410 --> 00:19:03.650 came off. So I went and I went to heaven and 00:19:03.650 --> 00:19:07.690 I was looking for my dad there. Couldn't find 00:19:07.690 --> 00:19:11.150 my dad. I spent a long time watching for my dad, 00:19:11.230 --> 00:19:14.529 calling him and everything. My dad had died. 00:19:15.200 --> 00:19:20.460 four years prior to that time, and no, I didn't 00:19:20.460 --> 00:19:25.599 find it. It was heaven, similar to what I had 00:19:25.599 --> 00:19:30.299 seen the first time. Then all of a sudden, it 00:19:30.299 --> 00:19:34.319 changed to darkness and the smell of sulfur, 00:19:34.839 --> 00:19:40.279 and I saw demons. I heard demons talking and 00:19:40.279 --> 00:19:42.599 taking me. They were going to take me. Yeah, 00:19:42.599 --> 00:19:45.759 and they take me to hell. So I spent over there 00:19:45.759 --> 00:19:50.660 and I saw a hill, and I was so afraid and everything. 00:19:51.299 --> 00:19:55.440 And then all of a sudden, a huge hand, and I 00:19:55.440 --> 00:19:59.059 mean gigantic, I mean that hand was incredible, 00:19:59.440 --> 00:20:04.539 big, huge. It landed on my head, on my forehead, 00:20:04.799 --> 00:20:08.599 and it brought me back to where I was. By that 00:20:08.599 --> 00:20:11.440 time, the nurse was already in the room. with 00:20:11.440 --> 00:20:16.960 my wife and told me, Mario, why do you try to 00:20:16.960 --> 00:20:20.619 commit suicide? And I said, no, I didn't do that. 00:20:21.240 --> 00:20:23.660 But I didn't want to argue with him. He said, 00:20:23.660 --> 00:20:26.740 yes. He says, promise me that you are not going 00:20:26.740 --> 00:20:31.220 to commit suicide again. He went back and he 00:20:31.220 --> 00:20:35.519 hooked all the cables back at precision to make 00:20:35.519 --> 00:20:40.390 the monitor work appropriately. and went back 00:20:40.390 --> 00:20:46.089 to the room to check on the monitor. Then I came 00:20:46.089 --> 00:20:51.950 back to the room and I saw the hand that brought 00:20:51.950 --> 00:20:58.390 me back. And from El Salvador, a niece of my 00:20:58.390 --> 00:21:01.230 wife called her at that moment and told her, 00:21:01.329 --> 00:21:06.529 we were praying for Mario and we saw a hand. 00:21:06.839 --> 00:21:10.599 They came out of nowhere and brought him back 00:21:10.599 --> 00:21:14.880 to the hospital room. I mean, coincidence or 00:21:14.880 --> 00:21:18.279 reality, I don't know. But what I saw, the hand 00:21:18.279 --> 00:21:20.480 that they showed over there too. At the same 00:21:20.480 --> 00:21:23.940 time that I saw it. So how does your family react 00:21:23.940 --> 00:21:28.519 when you tell them about this? My family, they 00:21:28.519 --> 00:21:31.539 weren't doing what I believe me. Obviously they 00:21:31.539 --> 00:21:33.880 thought because all the people told my family. 00:21:34.250 --> 00:21:37.210 that I was losing my mind, that I was going crazy. 00:21:38.250 --> 00:21:42.509 Let me ask you this. So you were in a hellish 00:21:42.509 --> 00:21:45.269 kind of place. How did you get out of there? 00:21:45.309 --> 00:21:48.930 Was it just the hand or did something else happen? 00:21:49.710 --> 00:21:52.650 So you went to heaven, then hell, and then straight 00:21:52.650 --> 00:21:57.950 back to your body? Yeah, by the hand. Yeah, that's 00:21:57.950 --> 00:22:00.670 very unusual. It's often the other way around. 00:22:01.910 --> 00:22:06.400 Yeah. And all my life since that time demons 00:22:06.400 --> 00:22:12.000 have chased me around. One time I woke up with 00:22:12.000 --> 00:22:16.660 a seal right here from here all the way to here. 00:22:17.119 --> 00:22:22.259 And then someone came and then they printed a 00:22:22.259 --> 00:22:26.460 seal. Very eligible. And it took three days to 00:22:26.460 --> 00:22:29.380 disappear. Back to my question a minute ago. 00:22:29.400 --> 00:22:32.660 Let me ask the flip side of that. Was there any 00:22:32.660 --> 00:22:35.880 kind of recollection of how you got from heaven 00:22:35.880 --> 00:22:41.319 to hell? Yeah It was just that I wasn't Remember 00:22:41.319 --> 00:22:44.859 when I was in heaven, I was looking for my dad 00:22:44.859 --> 00:22:49.680 every single where every single place I went 00:22:49.680 --> 00:22:52.859 places and I was calling him out by his name 00:22:52.859 --> 00:22:56.640 and Queen Queen Queen catching couldn't see him 00:22:56.640 --> 00:23:01.930 with a meeting And then they said, I might give 00:23:01.930 --> 00:23:04.309 up. I don't know what to do. I don't want to 00:23:04.309 --> 00:23:07.950 live here in heaven if I don't find my dad. And 00:23:07.950 --> 00:23:11.289 I couldn't find it. So I was thinking about that 00:23:11.289 --> 00:23:14.069 and thinking, thinking, and thinking, and thinking. 00:23:14.549 --> 00:23:17.809 When the demons come to me and they took me to 00:23:17.809 --> 00:23:22.690 the barren place, to the pit. And then it was 00:23:22.690 --> 00:23:27.180 awful. It was scary. And then I couldn't control 00:23:27.180 --> 00:23:32.259 myself until a hand came and broke me back. That 00:23:32.259 --> 00:23:36.160 was the transition from heaven to hell. Do you 00:23:36.160 --> 00:23:39.380 have any kind of thoughts as to what the hand 00:23:39.380 --> 00:23:43.660 was or who the hand was? To me, to me, I mean, 00:23:43.799 --> 00:23:49.200 to me it's Jesus. I'm a very, very spiritual 00:23:49.200 --> 00:23:53.099 person. I'm not a religious person. I don't believe 00:23:53.099 --> 00:23:57.019 in any religion. because I see many bad things 00:23:57.019 --> 00:24:01.240 in religions, but I'm a Christian person, consider 00:24:01.240 --> 00:24:05.359 myself Christian. Okay, I've been reading the 00:24:05.359 --> 00:24:08.960 Bible since I was six years old. I've been praying 00:24:08.960 --> 00:24:12.740 every single day about 10 times a day, sometimes 00:24:12.740 --> 00:24:16.640 even 20 times a day since I was five years old, 00:24:16.859 --> 00:24:20.819 thanks to my dad. My dad and I were best friends 00:24:20.819 --> 00:24:26.089 all his life and even now. He has died 12 years 00:24:26.089 --> 00:24:29.009 ago and I still miss him. And I still talk to 00:24:29.009 --> 00:24:34.210 him in my dreams. And when I pray and I talk 00:24:34.210 --> 00:24:38.029 to him and I feel that he's spiritually with 00:24:38.029 --> 00:24:40.869 me, helping me out. So that's why I couldn't 00:24:40.869 --> 00:24:45.369 live in heaven yet if I didn't meet my dad over 00:24:45.369 --> 00:24:50.009 there. That's why I guess that the bad spirits 00:24:50.009 --> 00:24:55.500 took me to hell. And I was in hell that there 00:24:55.500 --> 00:24:57.819 was a state I didn't want to be there either. 00:24:58.819 --> 00:25:01.579 And that's when the hand came in. The hand to 00:25:01.579 --> 00:25:06.579 me, again, is God's hand. No doubt about that 00:25:06.579 --> 00:25:10.519 in my mind, in my spirit, and in my thinking. 00:25:11.759 --> 00:25:16.000 And like I tell people, I'm honest. You want 00:25:16.000 --> 00:25:18.160 to believe it, fine. You don't want to believe 00:25:18.160 --> 00:25:21.640 it, fine. But I'm not going to lie to nobody. 00:25:22.109 --> 00:25:25.430 That's what I saw that's what I I led through 00:25:25.430 --> 00:25:29.549 in that problem tell nothing else if I made a 00:25:29.549 --> 00:25:33.849 mistake is by mistake But if you ask me I got 00:25:33.849 --> 00:25:38.349 answer answer everything Honestly, well, that's 00:25:38.349 --> 00:25:42.130 part of the hardest part of coming back is Some 00:25:42.130 --> 00:25:45.869 people not believing you Mm -hmm. I think that 00:25:45.869 --> 00:25:50.380 these experiences are always to teach use something, 00:25:50.880 --> 00:25:53.039 the person that goes through it. What do you 00:25:53.039 --> 00:25:54.799 think you were supposed to learn from these? 00:25:55.720 --> 00:26:01.740 To be a better person. Because I've always been 00:26:01.740 --> 00:26:06.140 a nice person and I have suffered so much. But 00:26:06.140 --> 00:26:10.579 I mean, because people have bullied me and everything. 00:26:11.640 --> 00:26:14.759 I've been poor and I don't have money. I don't 00:26:14.759 --> 00:26:19.390 have nothing. And I work every day. And I made 00:26:19.390 --> 00:26:22.490 my two sons famous, famous, if you say I'm famous, 00:26:23.329 --> 00:26:28.809 and they abandoned me. I mean, I was homeless 00:26:28.809 --> 00:26:34.250 for a lot of, for about five years, and they 00:26:34.250 --> 00:26:37.730 didn't have pity on me or mercy coming to give 00:26:37.730 --> 00:26:40.430 me a piece of food, people gave me food. And 00:26:40.430 --> 00:26:43.529 so that made me, that made me, all those things 00:26:43.529 --> 00:26:48.960 have made me different, a different person. You 00:26:48.960 --> 00:26:51.539 know, I don't care what you think about me as 00:26:51.539 --> 00:26:55.319 a human being, I don't think about what my children 00:26:55.319 --> 00:26:58.279 think about me. My mom, I hadn't seen my mom 00:26:58.279 --> 00:27:03.660 for about 20 years. No, my brothers, they disowned 00:27:03.660 --> 00:27:06.619 me and I don't see because I fear that they're 00:27:06.619 --> 00:27:11.299 gonna kill me again if I go with them. Okay, 00:27:11.759 --> 00:27:16.099 and then my mom made me a nice person, a loving 00:27:16.099 --> 00:27:21.680 person. You know, and it's not my day. I think 00:27:21.680 --> 00:27:25.200 it's not my day to go. Because remember one thing, 00:27:25.299 --> 00:27:29.160 that we have all the humans. One day all of us 00:27:29.160 --> 00:27:31.940 are gonna go. And we're not gonna take anything 00:27:31.940 --> 00:27:35.700 with us. All material things or intellectual 00:27:35.700 --> 00:27:39.380 things that we do. I have written like 10 books. 00:27:40.059 --> 00:27:42.500 I'm not gonna take that. I have written like 00:27:42.500 --> 00:27:47.240 40 songs. I'm a singer -songwriter. and not a 00:27:47.240 --> 00:27:51.460 good one, and I made my children famous. But 00:27:51.460 --> 00:27:54.279 that doesn't mean anything to me. But sometimes 00:27:54.279 --> 00:27:57.839 I ask myself, I said, why me? Yeah, sometimes 00:27:57.839 --> 00:28:01.400 I go that route with God, and I say, why me? 00:28:01.539 --> 00:28:05.559 Why I have to suffer so much? All I've done is 00:28:05.559 --> 00:28:09.940 help people and be nice to people. And I've been 00:28:09.940 --> 00:28:16.180 attacked. by humans and by evil spirits all my 00:28:16.180 --> 00:28:20.559 life, because I have. I'll be a liar if I tell 00:28:20.559 --> 00:28:24.259 you I haven't seen bad spirits, demons, because 00:28:24.259 --> 00:28:27.019 I have seen them, I have felt them, and they 00:28:27.019 --> 00:28:30.359 have pushed me, they have tortured me, and they 00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:34.480 have done awful things, tormented me, and everything. 00:28:34.559 --> 00:28:39.880 And I'll be a liar if I tell the world what they 00:28:39.880 --> 00:28:44.839 want to hear. No. I'm going to say what God has 00:28:44.839 --> 00:28:50.140 shown to me. Well, it's rough. Let's end on a 00:28:50.140 --> 00:28:53.000 happy note here, or at least a positive note. 00:28:53.579 --> 00:28:57.599 I can tell you're a happy guy too. You have a 00:28:57.599 --> 00:29:01.720 great smile, and you are someone who has actually 00:29:01.720 --> 00:29:04.920 had a glimpse of heaven, and most of the rest 00:29:04.920 --> 00:29:08.700 of us haven't. So for someone that may have a 00:29:08.700 --> 00:29:13.299 fear of death, or just really worry about what's 00:29:13.299 --> 00:29:16.579 going to happen someday, give them something 00:29:16.579 --> 00:29:19.740 positive about your glimpse of heaven that they 00:29:19.740 --> 00:29:23.700 can look forward to. Sure, that would be my honor. 00:29:24.059 --> 00:29:27.000 Thank you for asking me that question. And I'm 00:29:27.000 --> 00:29:29.779 going to say it this way, quoting a little bit 00:29:29.779 --> 00:29:32.640 of the words of a person that you might know 00:29:32.640 --> 00:29:36.309 and the world knows. I mean, he's so famous, 00:29:36.430 --> 00:29:39.170 he was so famous, he died some time ago, and 00:29:39.170 --> 00:29:44.130 his name is Billy Graham, okay, a famous one. 00:29:44.349 --> 00:29:49.430 And I'm gonna quote that, to need people with 00:29:49.430 --> 00:29:55.250 that, happy, glad thought. Okay, one time I heard 00:29:55.250 --> 00:29:58.109 him, I was listening to this episode of him, 00:29:58.309 --> 00:30:00.950 and he was saying, someone asked him, he says, 00:30:01.259 --> 00:30:05.680 Mr. Graham, have you ever heard or seen the Lord, 00:30:06.200 --> 00:30:12.000 God, Jesus or God? He says, no. God, Jesus never 00:30:12.000 --> 00:30:15.220 gave me that privilege. I never saw it. I felt 00:30:15.220 --> 00:30:19.519 it. But it's not the same seeing Him and feeling 00:30:19.519 --> 00:30:24.359 that person on me. And I said, who am I? Who 00:30:24.359 --> 00:30:28.059 am I? I said to myself, who am I that you haven't 00:30:28.059 --> 00:30:30.539 given me that privilege? Because if I had... 00:30:30.589 --> 00:30:34.349 If I told you the contrary, I'm lying. And I'm 00:30:34.349 --> 00:30:38.529 not gonna lie, okay? Jesus has talked to me. 00:30:39.009 --> 00:30:43.529 God has, I have seen His face. I have seen those 00:30:43.529 --> 00:30:47.190 things. And I say, who am I in comparison with 00:30:47.190 --> 00:30:50.970 Mr. Billy Graham? He touched the hearts of millions 00:30:50.970 --> 00:30:53.410 of people, not in the United States, but around 00:30:53.410 --> 00:30:58.170 the world. And God didn't give him the privilege 00:30:58.170 --> 00:31:02.150 that has given to me to see him, to hear him, 00:31:02.390 --> 00:31:05.789 and to talk to him. Can you imagine? That's the 00:31:05.789 --> 00:31:09.710 truth. And so that's what I tell people. You 00:31:09.710 --> 00:31:13.329 never know, but when you see it, like right now 00:31:13.329 --> 00:31:18.869 I have this deadly vertigo and I'm at dissonance. 00:31:19.710 --> 00:31:22.769 Okay, I woke up, that's why my daughter, Hilda, 00:31:22.970 --> 00:31:26.980 I woke up. hold it all on furniture. I cannot 00:31:26.980 --> 00:31:31.160 walk, I cannot walk. I cannot stand up. But I'm 00:31:31.160 --> 00:31:35.160 happy. I'm happy because especially when I do 00:31:35.160 --> 00:31:39.720 these things, talk shows, and I say I'm gonna 00:31:39.720 --> 00:31:43.920 speak the truth. Only the truth. If people believe 00:31:43.920 --> 00:31:48.160 me, fine. If not, if they think that I'm a liar 00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:53.299 and I'm a hypocrite, fine. But I know that I'm 00:31:53.299 --> 00:31:57.819 a liar. that I'm sticking to the truth. All right. 00:31:57.819 --> 00:32:00.380 I have one more last question. The last last 00:32:00.380 --> 00:32:06.160 question. Is heaven real? To me, yes. All right. 00:32:06.279 --> 00:32:09.059 Mario, appreciate you being with me today and 00:32:09.059 --> 00:32:12.559 opening up about all this difficult stuff. But 00:32:12.559 --> 00:32:14.359 I think we've learned something. Thank you very 00:32:14.359 --> 00:32:17.940 much. You're welcome. Thank you for having me. 00:32:18.019 --> 00:32:23.140 It's been an honor to me too. to share my story 00:32:23.140 --> 00:32:29.220 a little bit. Thanks again for listening and 00:32:29.220 --> 00:32:31.559 sharing this podcast. Don't forget to hit the 00:32:31.559 --> 00:32:34.339 follow or subscribe button and sign up for our 00:32:34.339 --> 00:32:37.180 newsletter at roundtripdesk .com. If you want 00:32:37.180 --> 00:32:39.740 to share your near -death experience, or if you 00:32:39.740 --> 00:32:42.099 have questions or comments about the show, send 00:32:42.099 --> 00:32:45.660 an email to eric at roundtripdeath .com. Until 00:32:45.660 --> 00:32:47.599 then, I wish you everything good that you're 00:32:47.599 --> 00:32:50.000 looking for in this life and the next.