From the time that they pronounced me dead was
a good 45 minutes. They cut my clothes and then
they paddled. My heart, my heart had stopped
and I could see people screaming and crying but
I didn't realize that was actually my physical
body because I was somewhere else. The only thing
that I could feel if you could imagine absolute
love and peace there wasn't anything else to
be felt. I was greeted by people I'd known in
the past. I'm back home again. Incredibly safe
and felt at home. Welcome, welcome to Round Trip
Death, everybody. We're going to have so much
fun today with a really interesting experience.
In fact, make it two near -death experiences
that we're going to be talking about with Mario
Quinones Ravalori. Please tell me I got that
close, Mario. Very good. You did it better than
Godzilla. All right. Thank you. I appreciate
it. We're going to talk about an experience that
happened to you very young when you were only
nine years old, and then one that happened a
little bit later in life. But before we jump
in, I want to get to know who Mario is. Tell
us just a little bit about you. Yeah, yeah. I'm
Mario, and I'm the father of actor Tony. the
voluntary best known for their role of Flash
Thompson in Spider -Man and Zero Mustafa in that
world -winning movie called The Grand Budapest
Hotel. And I'm an author, an author, a publicist,
and a singer or songwriter. And I love the arts
and the entertainment industry. I have worked
for Hollywood almost all my life, and I'm a biologist
and a creative writer. I graduated from the Cass
State University Fullerton here in California.
Currently I live in North Hollywood, California,
next to Burbank. Well, welcome to the show. We
hope you feel comfortable. We're just going to
have a nice chit chat today, a little discussion.
So thank you again for being here. Let's just
jump right in. I want to know what happened when
you were nine years old. That's so young to have
some kind of an experience. It was one afternoon.
My dad took me to a corn field field that he
had to watch out for the plantation that he had
just sown. like a week ago, and then we went
and sat next to a tall tree for shade. All of
a sudden I felt a pain on my chest, and then
I started to twist. My neck went around, my head
actually went around my neck and it almost got
to my back, and my chest bent all the way to
my knee. My dad knew that I couldn't control
the pain, and he took me in his arms and brought
me back to the house. And once in the house,
he put me in bed, and he went to the local town
doctor, brought him home, and he said that I
was going to die that night. And suddenly I died,
and he gave me a shot. But he said, if he survived,
then he's not going to die. He took my dad and
then go back to my office tomorrow and then bring
me back. And I give him another shot. Yeah, I
died then and I went to this place. My brothers
and sisters, my mom and my dad were praying.
He had already come back from taking back the
doctor to his office. And he was with me. They
were praying and crying and everything because
I was the oldest one. for my dad. And then I
went to these places and I saw tunnels, light
beams, fluorescent and different colors. And
I stayed there for 15 minutes. And my dad was
praying, like I said, but then all of a sudden
I came back. I told my dad, why did you bring
me back here? I did what? I want to stay in heaven.
It was so cool and so precious. I'd rather live
there than here. My dad, remember he said, no
son, I never want you to come back. If you're
going to stay over there, I just let you be there.
It's just, that's what happened. And I'm praying
for you. I love you son and whatever, but I know
it's his God's decision. He's in control and
whatever he wants to do. I came back and then
I remember I saw the most beautiful thing in
heaven and that it was light everywhere, colored
lights, figures. And then, you know, I never
saw anybody or any human being or angels or anything.
I just saw lights, the sky full of light. And
I saw trees and everything, but made out of fluorescent,
bright lights. That's all about my spirit, the
first spirit. Well, before we talk about the
next one, are there any other details that you
remember? And I don't want you to create any,
but if there are specific things you remember
about, for example, the lights, were they all
white and bright? Were some colored? And you
mentioned a sky. Give me a little more detail.
The lights were colorful and they were like kind
of beams, you know, the straight beams and then
the curved beams of light and like tunnels and
the roads made out of light that I wanted to
get into, but I couldn't. And then it wasn't
that long experience. I came back in like 15
minutes. And then my dad was over there in bed
with me when I came back. One thing that they
told the townspeople was in the village, small
village where I was, they informed the neighbors
that I have died to go and attend for my funeral
that was gonna take place that night. Yeah, but
it did happen because I came. That's a problem
when there's a funeral, but there's no dead person
there. I'm so happy for you. Oh, kind of interesting
that you said you didn't want to come back. You
told your father. Why was that? Because it was
beautiful, beautiful. At that age, I mean, I
was a poor boy and people used to do, how do
you call this? and make fun of you all the time
and they treat you bad, okay? And they did that,
all the neighbors, and so I was tired there because
my dad was poor and I was, all my brothers and
sisters were light skinned, you know, and my
friends and my relatives, my cousins, and blue
eyes and everything, like white people. And I
was dark, so people hated me because of that,
and they used to call me names. because of the
color of my skin. So you were bullied. Is that
the word you were looking for? Looking for, yeah,
I was bullied all the time by children and by
adults. And that's what got me so bad. It was
the one time, it's not part of the going to heaven,
but one time a guy named Jesus. He got three
people to fight at one time. My dad told me,
okay, I'm gonna let Mario go help you. I was
like eight years old and help you in the fields,
and I went with him. When we went to his field,
he met three kids, one of those bully kids. He
made me fight with three of them, and they beat
me up so bad. I couldn't tell my dad, because
if I told my dad, he would never believe me.
So that's why I didn't want to come back home.
Oh, I'm so sorry. So you must have felt safe
there. Yeah, definitely. Do you remember feeling
anything else? I felt the sensation that like
I was protected. I was supported and everything
was good for me. Everything was out of this world.
I mean, you know, it meant everything for me.
And they're just the lights, and the roads, and
the trees, and everything. It was a different,
not earthly things. So that was my experience
in there. The first one, it wasn't that big,
that long, and it wasn't that interesting. But
the thing is, I came back to life, and I have
done it two times in different seasons. and ages
because it was big difference, you know. I was
just a baby boy. And it took me two years to
recover from the injury. They took me to a hospital.
I was hospitalized for about three months and
then discharged. But it was amazing. It was incredible,
beautiful. Lights, everything, you know, work
in color. Physically, what caused it? Was it
like a heart problem or something else? No, they
couldn't diagnose what it was. It was just that
I had like a high temperature, a strong headache
and pain on my heart. And that made me twist.
I twisted around and my whole body paralyzed.
My paralyzed is not like a normal body in a way
that it turned my head back to my back and then
my chest went down to my knee like that. Yeah,
sounds very painful. All right. Did anything
happen that's unusual between then and when you
were 47 years old? Oh, many things, many things.
Any that are related to the experience? Yeah,
because from that time I started to be chased
around by demons and by good things. I saw things
all the time. I couldn't get up and get out of
bed at night to go take a pee, to go to the restroom
because I saw demons. Definitely I saw demons.
And people increased my hate and bullying. And
one time I was going to be shot. I was put there,
a killer, one of those guys, bad guys, put a
gun on my head and told me he was going to kill.
And my dad was next to me. Many, many things
happened. I couldn't go out anywhere because
I saw devils and demons and everything. My dad...
used to spank me so bad because he said that
I was a coward. And I was afraid of nothing.
It wasn't nothing. It was just my imagination.
But I saw them. I believe you. Okay. Your experience
when you were 47 years old is very unusual, too.
Why don't you jump into that one? Sure. That
time, my relatives, three of my close relatives,
paid the hire that a professional criminal, a
headman to kill me. He chased me for six months
and he told me, he called me on the phone because
he was giving my whole information and he called
me all the time and every day and he told me
where I was, who I was with. And he gaslighted
me for five months and told me he was going to
kill me. One time he told me that my God, my
God wasn't going to be able to to save me, because
his God was more powerful than my God. So I didn't
know what, I thought he was joking. But the funny
thing is that I have this brand in Hollywood,
working for Hollywood, a casting director, famous
producer and casting director. And then he impersonated
him to get to me. So then he hacked. his computer
and my computer. Every time that I called my
employer to give me jobs in the entertainment
business, casting the actual friend, he got to
me and got back to me in his name, impersonating
me, right? So I thought I was talking to my friend,
but then something happened that he was sending
me pornography and told me. If you don't get
into pornography with me, I'm gonna kill you.
And things like that. Forcing me. And so I ignored
him. But I thought that he was joking. But on
December 17, 2016, I tried to block it. To block
him from the computer. And he found out, but
he thought that I had done it personally, but
the FBI got into the case. And I reported to
the Inglewood Police Department here in California.
And then they say, why the FBI? So it started
to panic. And then the FBI told me that they
were gonna give me protection for 70 years. 78
hours, which is like a week in time, in days
time. And he kept on pushing me and everything.
But then the FBI told me that, and they went
into all my electronic devices, phone, my car,
my house. They found everything, cameras installed
inside my house. So he did it on the 18th, on
the 17th. In the morning, he did it. I went and
I bought tea from a plant, from herbs. And then
when he put the venom poison in the cup, in the
pot, came back and took it and he poisoned me.
But I found out that three of my relatives have
paid him because they hired him all the way from
India. One criminal professional from India,
professional hit me. So he came here. He came
in the FBI had. That's why the FBI got into a
case because they found out that he was a terrorist.
That he was an American or Hispanic. He was an
Indian guy. So he poisoned me. On the 18th of
November, December 18, 2016. and then they took
me to the hospital. He had paid the ambulance
drivers and everybody because he was connected
with everybody. He had gotten a lot of money
because he had money to pay off everybody and
anybody. How I found out the ambulance took 45
minutes to make it to the hospital, to the emergency
room, a mile distance from my house? Impossible.
in a logical thinking. And in the hospital, they
took three days to put me in a room. And then
I argued with the doctor. When I was discharged
from the hospital, they didn't want to give me
a report because they told me, you got a stroke.
And I fought with the doctor. He said, no, I
didn't got a stroke. I got poisoned. No, he says.
And so they did the other studies that said,
for a stroke, obviously, everything came out
negative, right? Because I was telling the truth.
I told the doctor, doctor, I respect you for
your training, but you are not God. I know more
than you. Because I was threatened, I was poisoned,
I took the poison myself, so you don't know and
you are not going to tell me anything. Because
I'm not going to agree with you. But again, I
respect you because you are a doctor. So did
they do some blood tests to find the poisoning?
No, they didn't do anything. They just went straight
to a stroke. Because they say it's stroke and
you're not going to tell me anything else. So
was there a point that you actually died from
this poison? Yeah, I'm going through that right
now. So then on the 12th day, I was dying. And
I told my wife, I'm going to die. And then she
didn't believe it. She was with me in the hospital
room. And then I was hooked to many, many cables
and everything. And a nurse was what monitor
to keep it 24 hours checking on me. And then
I heard that the nurse said out loud, Oh, I saw
Mario's aura coming out of him. It's the first
time that I see that. So I died at that moment.
And so I stretched my body and all the cables
came off. So I went and I went to heaven and
I was looking for my dad there. Couldn't find
my dad. I spent a long time watching for my dad,
calling him and everything. My dad had died.
four years prior to that time, and no, I didn't
find it. It was heaven, similar to what I had
seen the first time. Then all of a sudden, it
changed to darkness and the smell of sulfur,
and I saw demons. I heard demons talking and
taking me. They were going to take me. Yeah,
and they take me to hell. So I spent over there
and I saw a hill, and I was so afraid and everything.
And then all of a sudden, a huge hand, and I
mean gigantic, I mean that hand was incredible,
big, huge. It landed on my head, on my forehead,
and it brought me back to where I was. By that
time, the nurse was already in the room. with
my wife and told me, Mario, why do you try to
commit suicide? And I said, no, I didn't do that.
But I didn't want to argue with him. He said,
yes. He says, promise me that you are not going
to commit suicide again. He went back and he
hooked all the cables back at precision to make
the monitor work appropriately. and went back
to the room to check on the monitor. Then I came
back to the room and I saw the hand that brought
me back. And from El Salvador, a niece of my
wife called her at that moment and told her,
we were praying for Mario and we saw a hand.
They came out of nowhere and brought him back
to the hospital room. I mean, coincidence or
reality, I don't know. But what I saw, the hand
that they showed over there too. At the same
time that I saw it. So how does your family react
when you tell them about this? My family, they
weren't doing what I believe me. Obviously they
thought because all the people told my family.
that I was losing my mind, that I was going crazy.
Let me ask you this. So you were in a hellish
kind of place. How did you get out of there?
Was it just the hand or did something else happen?
So you went to heaven, then hell, and then straight
back to your body? Yeah, by the hand. Yeah, that's
very unusual. It's often the other way around.
Yeah. And all my life since that time demons
have chased me around. One time I woke up with
a seal right here from here all the way to here.
And then someone came and then they printed a
seal. Very eligible. And it took three days to
disappear. Back to my question a minute ago.
Let me ask the flip side of that. Was there any
kind of recollection of how you got from heaven
to hell? Yeah It was just that I wasn't Remember
when I was in heaven, I was looking for my dad
every single where every single place I went
places and I was calling him out by his name
and Queen Queen Queen catching couldn't see him
with a meeting And then they said, I might give
up. I don't know what to do. I don't want to
live here in heaven if I don't find my dad. And
I couldn't find it. So I was thinking about that
and thinking, thinking, and thinking, and thinking.
When the demons come to me and they took me to
the barren place, to the pit. And then it was
awful. It was scary. And then I couldn't control
myself until a hand came and broke me back. That
was the transition from heaven to hell. Do you
have any kind of thoughts as to what the hand
was or who the hand was? To me, to me, I mean,
to me it's Jesus. I'm a very, very spiritual
person. I'm not a religious person. I don't believe
in any religion. because I see many bad things
in religions, but I'm a Christian person, consider
myself Christian. Okay, I've been reading the
Bible since I was six years old. I've been praying
every single day about 10 times a day, sometimes
even 20 times a day since I was five years old,
thanks to my dad. My dad and I were best friends
all his life and even now. He has died 12 years
ago and I still miss him. And I still talk to
him in my dreams. And when I pray and I talk
to him and I feel that he's spiritually with
me, helping me out. So that's why I couldn't
live in heaven yet if I didn't meet my dad over
there. That's why I guess that the bad spirits
took me to hell. And I was in hell that there
was a state I didn't want to be there either.
And that's when the hand came in. The hand to
me, again, is God's hand. No doubt about that
in my mind, in my spirit, and in my thinking.
And like I tell people, I'm honest. You want
to believe it, fine. You don't want to believe
it, fine. But I'm not going to lie to nobody.
That's what I saw that's what I I led through
in that problem tell nothing else if I made a
mistake is by mistake But if you ask me I got
answer answer everything Honestly, well, that's
part of the hardest part of coming back is Some
people not believing you Mm -hmm. I think that
these experiences are always to teach use something,
the person that goes through it. What do you
think you were supposed to learn from these?
To be a better person. Because I've always been
a nice person and I have suffered so much. But
I mean, because people have bullied me and everything.
I've been poor and I don't have money. I don't
have nothing. And I work every day. And I made
my two sons famous, famous, if you say I'm famous,
and they abandoned me. I mean, I was homeless
for a lot of, for about five years, and they
didn't have pity on me or mercy coming to give
me a piece of food, people gave me food. And
so that made me, that made me, all those things
have made me different, a different person. You
know, I don't care what you think about me as
a human being, I don't think about what my children
think about me. My mom, I hadn't seen my mom
for about 20 years. No, my brothers, they disowned
me and I don't see because I fear that they're
gonna kill me again if I go with them. Okay,
and then my mom made me a nice person, a loving
person. You know, and it's not my day. I think
it's not my day to go. Because remember one thing,
that we have all the humans. One day all of us
are gonna go. And we're not gonna take anything
with us. All material things or intellectual
things that we do. I have written like 10 books.
I'm not gonna take that. I have written like
40 songs. I'm a singer -songwriter. and not a
good one, and I made my children famous. But
that doesn't mean anything to me. But sometimes
I ask myself, I said, why me? Yeah, sometimes
I go that route with God, and I say, why me?
Why I have to suffer so much? All I've done is
help people and be nice to people. And I've been
attacked. by humans and by evil spirits all my
life, because I have. I'll be a liar if I tell
you I haven't seen bad spirits, demons, because
I have seen them, I have felt them, and they
have pushed me, they have tortured me, and they
have done awful things, tormented me, and everything.
And I'll be a liar if I tell the world what they
want to hear. No. I'm going to say what God has
shown to me. Well, it's rough. Let's end on a
happy note here, or at least a positive note.
I can tell you're a happy guy too. You have a
great smile, and you are someone who has actually
had a glimpse of heaven, and most of the rest
of us haven't. So for someone that may have a
fear of death, or just really worry about what's
going to happen someday, give them something
positive about your glimpse of heaven that they
can look forward to. Sure, that would be my honor.
Thank you for asking me that question. And I'm
going to say it this way, quoting a little bit
of the words of a person that you might know
and the world knows. I mean, he's so famous,
he was so famous, he died some time ago, and
his name is Billy Graham, okay, a famous one.
And I'm gonna quote that, to need people with
that, happy, glad thought. Okay, one time I heard
him, I was listening to this episode of him,
and he was saying, someone asked him, he says,
Mr. Graham, have you ever heard or seen the Lord,
God, Jesus or God? He says, no. God, Jesus never
gave me that privilege. I never saw it. I felt
it. But it's not the same seeing Him and feeling
that person on me. And I said, who am I? Who
am I? I said to myself, who am I that you haven't
given me that privilege? Because if I had...
If I told you the contrary, I'm lying. And I'm
not gonna lie, okay? Jesus has talked to me.
God has, I have seen His face. I have seen those
things. And I say, who am I in comparison with
Mr. Billy Graham? He touched the hearts of millions
of people, not in the United States, but around
the world. And God didn't give him the privilege
that has given to me to see him, to hear him,
and to talk to him. Can you imagine? That's the
truth. And so that's what I tell people. You
never know, but when you see it, like right now
I have this deadly vertigo and I'm at dissonance.
Okay, I woke up, that's why my daughter, Hilda,
I woke up. hold it all on furniture. I cannot
walk, I cannot walk. I cannot stand up. But I'm
happy. I'm happy because especially when I do
these things, talk shows, and I say I'm gonna
speak the truth. Only the truth. If people believe
me, fine. If not, if they think that I'm a liar
and I'm a hypocrite, fine. But I know that I'm
a liar. that I'm sticking to the truth. All right.
I have one more last question. The last last
question. Is heaven real? To me, yes. All right.
Mario, appreciate you being with me today and
opening up about all this difficult stuff. But
I think we've learned something. Thank you very
much. You're welcome. Thank you for having me.
It's been an honor to me too. to share my story
a little bit. Thanks again for listening and
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