WEBVTT 00:00:00.270 --> 00:00:03.169 Hey, welcome to Round Trip Death everybody. I 00:00:03.169 --> 00:00:05.830 just got done interviewing Shanna Arnold, which 00:00:05.830 --> 00:00:09.330 is going to be the focus of the show today. And 00:00:09.330 --> 00:00:11.949 I wanted to bring up a couple of things. One 00:00:11.949 --> 00:00:14.890 is that she was in a horrible traffic accident 00:00:14.890 --> 00:00:18.350 and ended up with a traumatic brain injury. As 00:00:18.350 --> 00:00:22.089 you know, these things can affect one's speech 00:00:22.089 --> 00:00:26.370 and movements and a lot of other things physically 00:00:26.370 --> 00:00:30.399 and even mentally in some ways. But Shanna is 00:00:30.399 --> 00:00:33.740 just the sweetest thing. And her story isn't 00:00:33.740 --> 00:00:35.979 one that's all flashy that you're going to go 00:00:35.979 --> 00:00:39.159 yell at all your buddies going, wow, God came 00:00:39.159 --> 00:00:41.759 down and visited this lady and there was thunder 00:00:41.759 --> 00:00:44.759 and lightning and everything. No, it's just a 00:00:44.759 --> 00:00:50.280 brief, sweet story. The fact that there isn't 00:00:50.280 --> 00:00:52.600 a lot of explanation about it doesn't make it 00:00:52.600 --> 00:00:56.619 any less true or any less of something for us 00:00:56.619 --> 00:01:00.020 to learn from. So as you're listening give Shanna 00:01:00.020 --> 00:01:03.820 some grace and Look for what to take away is 00:01:03.820 --> 00:01:05.700 for you. It's probably gonna be different for 00:01:05.700 --> 00:01:08.959 all of us All right. Thank you. Let's jump right 00:01:08.959 --> 00:01:15.239 into it From the time that they pronounced me 00:01:15.239 --> 00:01:19.000 that was a good 45 minutes They cut my clothes 00:01:19.000 --> 00:01:22.359 and then they paddled my heart my heart stopped 00:01:22.359 --> 00:01:25.379 and I could see people screaming and crying but 00:01:25.379 --> 00:01:27.840 I didn't realize that was actually my physical 00:01:27.840 --> 00:01:31.260 body because I was somewhere else. The only thing 00:01:31.260 --> 00:01:34.640 that I could feel, if you can imagine, absolute 00:01:34.640 --> 00:01:37.760 love and peace. There wasn't anything else to 00:01:37.760 --> 00:01:40.680 be felt. I was greeted by people I had known 00:01:40.680 --> 00:01:44.040 in the past. I'm back home again. Incredibly 00:01:44.040 --> 00:01:49.500 safe and felt at home. Welcome, welcome to Round 00:01:49.500 --> 00:01:52.579 Trip Death everybody. And I have in front of 00:01:52.579 --> 00:01:55.760 me today, Shanna Arnold, and we're so happy to 00:01:55.760 --> 00:01:58.099 meet you, Shanna. How are you today? I'm good, 00:01:58.120 --> 00:02:01.620 thanks. I'm Eric. How are you? I'm great. I've 00:02:01.620 --> 00:02:03.859 been looking forward to our interview today. 00:02:04.280 --> 00:02:07.099 Before we jump into your near death experience, 00:02:07.519 --> 00:02:10.460 tell us just a little bit about you. Who is Shanna? 00:02:11.039 --> 00:02:16.020 I'm Shanna Arnold. I'm from Texas and I have 00:02:16.020 --> 00:02:19.280 a mother to two little girls who are really outgoing. 00:02:19.960 --> 00:02:24.919 And fun. How old are they? They are 13 and 8. 00:02:25.340 --> 00:02:29.060 And you're in Lubbock, right? Yes. I'm trying 00:02:29.060 --> 00:02:32.199 to think which university is in Lubbock. Texas 00:02:32.199 --> 00:02:36.219 Tech. Okay. We'll be playing them in football 00:02:36.219 --> 00:02:39.379 this year. Yes. They're supposed to be good this 00:02:39.379 --> 00:02:42.759 year, but we're going to win anyway. I don't 00:02:42.759 --> 00:02:45.379 think so. And you've got a red shirt, so you 00:02:45.379 --> 00:02:49.539 must be a big fan. Yes. All right. Well, hey, 00:02:49.580 --> 00:02:51.879 let's jump back in time. I want to get right 00:02:51.879 --> 00:02:54.460 into your experience. There's a lot to talk about. 00:02:54.960 --> 00:02:58.300 We're going to go back to, I believe it's 2003 00:02:58.300 --> 00:03:02.280 when you were in this horrible car crash. Would 00:03:02.280 --> 00:03:04.580 you just give us a little bit of lead up to it? 00:03:04.759 --> 00:03:07.139 I don't need a whole bunch of detail about where 00:03:07.139 --> 00:03:09.740 you were going, but how did you find yourself 00:03:09.740 --> 00:03:13.099 in this car and what time of day was it and what 00:03:13.099 --> 00:03:16.539 happened? Okay. I was going to a football game 00:03:16.539 --> 00:03:19.259 with two of my friends. I'm on our way home from 00:03:19.259 --> 00:03:22.520 the football game. It was around midnight or 00:03:22.520 --> 00:03:27.300 so we came home in the car and I had a feeling 00:03:27.300 --> 00:03:30.379 that I was I stopped in front seat with my seatbelt 00:03:30.379 --> 00:03:33.520 on and then I had a feeling that I need to move 00:03:33.520 --> 00:03:38.460 to the back seat and I I didn't really Obey the 00:03:38.460 --> 00:03:41.599 prompting at first. I was just like, okay, I'm 00:03:41.599 --> 00:03:45.680 just gonna interject I Saw a picture of the car 00:03:45.930 --> 00:03:49.430 you sent me and if you had been in the front 00:03:49.430 --> 00:03:53.270 seat we wouldn't be talking right now. No. So 00:03:53.270 --> 00:03:55.889 you found yourself to the back seat and then 00:03:55.889 --> 00:03:58.469 what happened? I told the driver that my friend 00:03:58.469 --> 00:04:01.550 didn't have her seatbelt on and she said it's 00:04:01.550 --> 00:04:04.009 okay we'll be home in a little bit don't worry 00:04:04.009 --> 00:04:08.030 about it we'll be home and so I struggled with 00:04:08.030 --> 00:04:11.189 my seatbelt on and then I just fell asleep I 00:04:11.189 --> 00:04:16.430 guess and then I woke up at in the hospital three 00:04:16.430 --> 00:04:19.589 and a half months later so a lot of what happened 00:04:19.589 --> 00:04:21.949 as far as the accident people had to fill in 00:04:21.949 --> 00:04:25.449 for you correct yes yes what have they told you 00:04:25.449 --> 00:04:29.290 what happened well see at the time i didn't even 00:04:29.290 --> 00:04:31.410 know i started high school yet i thought i was 00:04:31.410 --> 00:04:34.350 still in junior high that's how much time i lost 00:04:34.350 --> 00:04:37.170 and i was in high school for actually six weeks 00:04:37.170 --> 00:04:40.470 but i don't remember any those six years at all 00:04:40.470 --> 00:04:45.670 they told me that i went to Monterey High School 00:04:45.670 --> 00:04:49.730 and that I was on the softball team and I remember 00:04:49.730 --> 00:04:52.569 playing on the softball team when I was still 00:04:52.569 --> 00:04:55.509 in junior high. I played my freshman year. I 00:04:55.509 --> 00:04:57.550 went every day to the high school from junior 00:04:57.550 --> 00:05:00.990 high to play softball. So what happened in the 00:05:00.990 --> 00:05:04.829 accident? What caused the accident? My friend 00:05:04.829 --> 00:05:08.829 who's driving says that a car was coming up close 00:05:08.829 --> 00:05:12.589 behind her really fast. And that she's moving 00:05:12.589 --> 00:05:17.629 on the way. But some people just assume she fell 00:05:17.629 --> 00:05:21.610 asleep at the wheel. So, I don't know. And then 00:05:21.610 --> 00:05:25.949 the car rolled? Yes. The car flipped four times 00:05:25.949 --> 00:05:29.550 and it ejected me and my friend, my best friend 00:05:29.550 --> 00:05:32.529 who's next to me, out of the vehicle and she 00:05:32.529 --> 00:05:35.269 was thrown 50 feet and I was thrown 150 feet. 00:05:36.310 --> 00:05:40.870 And my friend, the driver, Courtney, found my 00:05:40.870 --> 00:05:44.889 friend about 50 feet away from the car and she 00:05:44.889 --> 00:05:48.389 was pretty much gone and they couldn't find me 00:05:48.389 --> 00:05:52.790 at all and so she called 911 she couldn't find 00:05:52.790 --> 00:05:56.389 her phone anywhere so she said a prayer to find 00:05:56.389 --> 00:05:59.930 her shoes so she could find her phone and then 00:05:59.930 --> 00:06:04.269 after she did that she found her shoes and then 00:06:04.269 --> 00:06:06.930 her right shoe was my mom's cell phone that flew 00:06:06.930 --> 00:06:11.649 out of my pocket and landed in her shoe Okay, 00:06:12.730 --> 00:06:16.790 you flew 150 feet and somehow the phone landed 00:06:16.790 --> 00:06:22.310 in her shoe. That's not a coincidence, is it? 00:06:23.329 --> 00:06:27.829 No. Miracle. Yeah, I like miracles. Even weird 00:06:27.829 --> 00:06:31.930 ones like that are cool. So how were your two 00:06:31.930 --> 00:06:36.509 friends? Well one unfortunately passed away. 00:06:36.750 --> 00:06:39.430 And my friend who's older than me who's driving, 00:06:39.769 --> 00:06:42.709 she walked away from the car accident. Okay, 00:06:42.709 --> 00:06:47.449 so you were thrown 150 feet. So half the length 00:06:47.449 --> 00:06:50.430 of a football field. Yes. Could have been in 00:06:50.430 --> 00:06:52.949 any direction. How did they finally find you? 00:06:53.550 --> 00:06:56.230 They found me through a helicopter. Wow. And 00:06:56.230 --> 00:06:59.850 what kind of shape were you in? I was not... 00:06:59.850 --> 00:07:02.870 I broke my pelvis and everything and I just... 00:07:02.870 --> 00:07:06.029 I didn't have too many... injuries to my face 00:07:06.029 --> 00:07:09.870 or anything, which was a shock. You know, I flew 00:07:09.870 --> 00:07:13.129 out of the car 150 feet, so you'd think there'd 00:07:13.129 --> 00:07:15.949 be more messed up, but I really wasn't. But you 00:07:15.949 --> 00:07:19.029 had a traumatic brain injury, right? Yes. The 00:07:19.029 --> 00:07:21.129 most severe thing that happened to me was my 00:07:21.129 --> 00:07:27.629 TBI. Any broken bones? I broke my pelvis and 00:07:27.629 --> 00:07:30.449 several other bones, like my legs or something, 00:07:30.610 --> 00:07:33.699 but it wasn't... Too bad, I don't think, but 00:07:33.699 --> 00:07:35.199 I was in a coma for three and a half months, 00:07:35.199 --> 00:07:37.879 so I don't remember. Sometimes that's a blessing, 00:07:37.899 --> 00:07:41.160 I guess, to not remember all the trauma. But 00:07:41.160 --> 00:07:43.819 man, that is a long time. And you were in the 00:07:43.819 --> 00:07:47.300 hospital overall for even a couple more months 00:07:47.300 --> 00:07:49.519 after that, right? Yeah, for about five and a 00:07:49.519 --> 00:07:53.220 half months. From the hospital, they sent me 00:07:53.220 --> 00:07:56.740 to a neurological rehab center in a different 00:07:56.740 --> 00:08:00.759 town about six hours away for another whole year 00:08:00.759 --> 00:08:04.050 after that. Do you mind if I ask, and we didn't 00:08:04.050 --> 00:08:06.850 talk about this before, but how did your parents 00:08:06.850 --> 00:08:11.870 deal with all this? My parents were... My mom 00:08:11.870 --> 00:08:16.250 wrote me a journal. And in that journal, she 00:08:16.250 --> 00:08:19.050 wrote that my mom and I were just shocked, you 00:08:19.050 --> 00:08:22.389 know, they're too numb to cry. And they're just 00:08:22.389 --> 00:08:25.670 so scared and only the hospital, they didn't 00:08:25.670 --> 00:08:29.389 know which hospital to go to. And so they're 00:08:29.389 --> 00:08:32.340 trying to get a hold of my football coach. Anyways, 00:08:32.360 --> 00:08:34.840 they saw the Monterey bus, the school football 00:08:34.840 --> 00:08:38.179 bus, and so they followed them to tell them what 00:08:38.179 --> 00:08:41.820 happened. Then they decided to go to Covenant 00:08:41.820 --> 00:08:44.539 because that's where the helicopters land, at 00:08:44.539 --> 00:08:47.759 Covenant Hospital. And they got there and I had 00:08:47.759 --> 00:08:50.840 just barely landed when they told my parents 00:08:50.840 --> 00:08:54.940 that I was there. Yeah, wow. As a parent, I just 00:08:54.940 --> 00:08:58.639 can't imagine getting that phone call. All right. 00:08:58.889 --> 00:09:02.230 You had told me that you had some kind of a near 00:09:02.230 --> 00:09:06.230 -death experience, in other words, a time where 00:09:06.230 --> 00:09:08.970 you felt like you were out of your body in the 00:09:08.970 --> 00:09:12.570 spirit world. Would you jump into that now? Yes. 00:09:13.149 --> 00:09:16.250 After the accident happened, I didn't know what 00:09:16.250 --> 00:09:18.769 had happened, you know, so I was walking with 00:09:18.769 --> 00:09:20.870 my best friend, my very best friend who was next 00:09:20.870 --> 00:09:24.710 to me in the car. We were walking somewhere and 00:09:24.710 --> 00:09:28.580 it was just kind of a dark space. I didn't know 00:09:28.580 --> 00:09:30.980 what was around me. I couldn't see anything around 00:09:30.980 --> 00:09:35.100 me. I could just see her. And we were giving 00:09:35.100 --> 00:09:38.320 each other a hug over and over and over. We were 00:09:38.320 --> 00:09:40.639 both crying. And I said, I'll see you again. 00:09:40.659 --> 00:09:43.860 I'll do your work for you. And then that was 00:09:43.860 --> 00:09:47.399 the last thing I remember seeing. And then after 00:09:47.399 --> 00:09:51.000 the accident, after I woke up from my coma, people 00:09:51.000 --> 00:09:54.940 would tell me that Janelle had passed away. I 00:09:54.940 --> 00:09:58.529 said, no, she didn't. I argued with them. No, 00:09:58.529 --> 00:10:00.610 I didn't think that she really passed away because, 00:10:01.149 --> 00:10:04.870 I mean, I just saw her. And I really didn't realize 00:10:04.870 --> 00:10:07.730 what had happened to me. Did you see anybody 00:10:07.730 --> 00:10:12.029 else? No. Just her. Where do you think you were? 00:10:12.529 --> 00:10:14.769 I mean, this could just be a dream, right? Or 00:10:14.769 --> 00:10:17.850 was it something more than that? You know, I 00:10:17.850 --> 00:10:22.190 don't really know actually because we just were 00:10:22.190 --> 00:10:25.909 walking somewhere like a hallway kind of, I guess, 00:10:25.990 --> 00:10:30.029 not really a hallway, but like a dark space and 00:10:30.029 --> 00:10:33.389 we were hugging each other. That's all I remember. 00:10:34.690 --> 00:10:37.809 You don't remember any words that were expressed 00:10:37.809 --> 00:10:41.149 or anything else? Oh, yeah. He said, well, I'll 00:10:41.149 --> 00:10:42.730 see you again. And I said, yes, I'll see you 00:10:42.730 --> 00:10:46.909 again. Okay. What kind of feelings do you remember 00:10:46.909 --> 00:10:50.789 from that experience? I was feeling scared because 00:10:50.789 --> 00:10:54.019 I didn't know where I was, but You know, my best 00:10:54.019 --> 00:10:57.700 friend was with me, so I couldn't have been somewhere 00:10:57.700 --> 00:11:01.460 too bad. Yeah, we were just hugging each other, 00:11:01.860 --> 00:11:04.659 so it was a good experience. And now that you've 00:11:04.659 --> 00:11:08.379 had time to reflect on it for a few years, what 00:11:08.379 --> 00:11:10.759 do you think it was? I don't want to try to put 00:11:10.759 --> 00:11:14.139 words in your mouth, but tell me what you think 00:11:14.139 --> 00:11:17.379 happened. What do you think this was? I think 00:11:17.379 --> 00:11:20.259 we were at Heaven's Gate, I think, personally, 00:11:21.159 --> 00:11:24.639 that the Savior was not ready. Yeah, for me to 00:11:24.639 --> 00:11:26.860 come because I still have work to do here on 00:11:26.860 --> 00:11:31.200 earth. I married my covert husband. I introduced 00:11:31.200 --> 00:11:33.799 him to the gospel, married him, and brought two 00:11:33.799 --> 00:11:36.919 wonderful girls into this world. Well, that's 00:11:36.919 --> 00:11:39.600 awesome. I'm glad you made the recovery. What 00:11:39.600 --> 00:11:43.179 has your life been like since? Has this changed 00:11:43.179 --> 00:11:48.019 anything in you? Oh, yes, tons, lots. Like I 00:11:48.019 --> 00:11:51.330 said, I used to be an athlete. But I can no longer 00:11:51.330 --> 00:11:54.490 do sports or anything. I mean, I forgot how to 00:11:54.490 --> 00:11:57.409 do everything. I had to relearn everything. In 00:11:57.409 --> 00:11:59.690 the hospital, I was considered to be at a second 00:11:59.690 --> 00:12:01.990 grade reading level, where I woke up from a coma. 00:12:02.789 --> 00:12:07.450 But after I did my rehab and stuff, I returned 00:12:07.450 --> 00:12:09.789 back to school and worked as hard as I could. 00:12:10.330 --> 00:12:13.870 And I graduated the following year with honors. 00:12:14.490 --> 00:12:16.629 Well, that's awesome. So with the other people 00:12:16.629 --> 00:12:21.100 of your age? Yes. Congratulations on that. Thank 00:12:21.100 --> 00:12:24.779 you. How has this changed you personally though, 00:12:24.919 --> 00:12:28.559 besides sports and things like that? Is Shanna 00:12:28.559 --> 00:12:31.659 the same person that she was back then? No, I'm 00:12:31.659 --> 00:12:37.299 not. I think I have a closer relationship with 00:12:37.299 --> 00:12:40.120 my Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ. I mean, 00:12:40.240 --> 00:12:44.879 before I thanked God for the talent He gave me 00:12:44.879 --> 00:12:47.860 for playing softball. Because I was you know, 00:12:48.039 --> 00:12:50.480 I really guess up I think several player and 00:12:50.480 --> 00:12:56.019 so and that time came from him and My dad's talking 00:12:56.019 --> 00:13:00.559 to me talking to me and he said be sure to think 00:13:00.559 --> 00:13:04.440 He goes, do you know why you're so good? and 00:13:04.440 --> 00:13:08.500 I said Because I practice like was yes, but why 00:13:08.500 --> 00:13:12.720 are you so good though? I said Why dad? He said 00:13:12.720 --> 00:13:15.500 who do you think gave you that talent? And I 00:13:15.500 --> 00:13:19.919 said, my father in Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ 00:13:19.919 --> 00:13:22.320 gave me that talent. And he says, yes, be sure 00:13:22.320 --> 00:13:25.600 to thank him in all that you do. And so I was 00:13:25.600 --> 00:13:28.720 sure to thank him for the talent I had, playing 00:13:28.720 --> 00:13:31.759 softball. And how do you spread that message? 00:13:32.580 --> 00:13:34.620 We should be thankful for all that God has given 00:13:34.620 --> 00:13:38.740 us. Have you told your kids about this? Yes, 00:13:39.399 --> 00:13:43.460 multiple times. How do they react to it? Well, 00:13:43.460 --> 00:13:47.480 um... At first they were amazed, you know, but 00:13:47.480 --> 00:13:50.940 now that their fears have passed, then I don't 00:13:50.940 --> 00:13:52.759 know how one daughter or older feels about it 00:13:52.759 --> 00:13:56.019 now, but they think that I'm pretty amazing though 00:13:56.019 --> 00:13:59.340 for still being here, even though they argued 00:13:59.340 --> 00:14:02.360 with me a lot. So I talked to a lot of people 00:14:02.360 --> 00:14:05.379 that have had, for lack of a better term, deeper 00:14:05.379 --> 00:14:09.039 near -death experiences. In other words, They 00:14:09.039 --> 00:14:12.539 remember a lot from the spirit world or heaven 00:14:12.539 --> 00:14:15.820 or however they describe it. And they come back 00:14:15.820 --> 00:14:19.340 with absolutely no fear of death at all. How 00:14:19.340 --> 00:14:22.440 about you? Actually, I'm looking forward to death. 00:14:23.720 --> 00:14:28.379 I don't say that because after death, you know, 00:14:28.639 --> 00:14:31.940 I won't be living in this mortal body. My mortal 00:14:31.940 --> 00:14:35.259 body has been broken many times and it's not 00:14:35.259 --> 00:14:39.720 the same as it was. walk different, I talk different, 00:14:40.360 --> 00:14:43.720 I think differently, and I just miss the old 00:14:43.720 --> 00:14:47.000 me, you know? I want to go back to what I was. 00:14:47.519 --> 00:14:49.659 What do you think it's going to be like after 00:14:49.659 --> 00:14:52.120 you die? Where are you going to go? What's it 00:14:52.120 --> 00:14:54.659 going to be like? I'll have lots of friends and 00:14:54.659 --> 00:14:57.700 I'll run up to them and I'll actually run up 00:14:57.700 --> 00:15:01.580 to them and say how much I miss them. Is there 00:15:01.580 --> 00:15:03.700 anything else that you'd like to tell our listeners? 00:15:04.399 --> 00:15:07.480 I think you should treat others with kindness 00:15:07.480 --> 00:15:10.240 and respect because you don't know what battles 00:15:10.240 --> 00:15:12.899 someone else faces. A lot of people in this world 00:15:12.899 --> 00:15:18.139 are suffering and if you take the time to know 00:15:18.139 --> 00:15:22.120 someone's story before judging them, then you'll 00:15:22.120 --> 00:15:24.879 think a whole lot differently about them. How 00:15:24.879 --> 00:15:27.200 about someone who may be struggling with the 00:15:27.200 --> 00:15:31.200 death of a loved one? That there's a reuniting 00:15:31.200 --> 00:15:34.360 in death that will be reunited again with those 00:15:34.360 --> 00:15:38.480 who have passed on for us. A reunion of sorts. 00:15:38.940 --> 00:15:42.000 Yes. Last thing, what is it that you're looking 00:15:42.000 --> 00:15:45.659 forward to the most? Let me back up a sec because 00:15:45.659 --> 00:15:48.399 I just want to make sure that people understand 00:15:48.399 --> 00:15:51.820 when someone on this show says something like 00:15:51.820 --> 00:15:54.379 they're looking forward to death, it doesn't 00:15:54.379 --> 00:15:57.179 mean they're going to commit suicide today. Yeah, 00:15:57.220 --> 00:16:00.580 yeah, yeah. Please explain how you feel about 00:16:00.580 --> 00:16:04.919 that. In other words, I'm guessing what you would 00:16:04.919 --> 00:16:08.779 say is something along the lines of I'm happy 00:16:08.779 --> 00:16:14.320 here and I and I'm loving my life and It's going 00:16:14.320 --> 00:16:17.039 to be great to go to the spirit world someday 00:16:17.039 --> 00:16:20.320 whatever your thoughts are on a topic like that. 00:16:21.019 --> 00:16:24.419 I Do think my life here is great right now. It 00:16:24.419 --> 00:16:28.159 hasn't charged and hardships in it but I'm just 00:16:28.159 --> 00:16:31.090 looking forward to Being reunited again with 00:16:31.090 --> 00:16:33.870 all those who have gone before me. All right, 00:16:33.950 --> 00:16:35.950 Shanna. Thank you for your time. I appreciate 00:16:35.950 --> 00:16:39.889 you being with me. Thank you, Eric. And say hi 00:16:39.889 --> 00:16:42.830 to your family, the hobby and the two girls. 00:16:43.830 --> 00:16:46.710 Hi, Dane. Hi, Olivia. Hi, Bradley. Love you guys. 00:16:49.970 --> 00:16:52.830 Thanks again for listening and sharing this podcast. 00:16:53.110 --> 00:16:55.529 Don't forget to hit the follow or subscribe button 00:16:55.529 --> 00:16:58.029 and sign up for our newsletter at RoundTripDeath 00:16:58.029 --> 00:17:01.490 .com. 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