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From the time that they pronounced me dead was

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a good 45 minutes. They cut my clothes and then

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they paddled. My heart, my heart had stopped

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and I could see people screaming and crying but

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I didn't realize that was actually my physical

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body because I was somewhere else. The only thing

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that I could feel if you could imagine absolute

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love and peace, there wasn't anything else to

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be felt. I was greeted by people I had known

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in the past. I'm back home again. Incredibly

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safe and felt at home. Welcome, welcome to Round

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Trip Death, everybody. We have an awesome guest

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on today, but I'm going to keep you in suspense

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for a second because before I introduce Greg,

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I want to just say this is going to be unusual

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because some people don't believe near -death

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experiences because Who is there to verify that

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it happened? How can you prove that it really

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happened? Well, today, you're actually going

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to hear some of that proof about Greg's experience.

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So tell us a little bit about you, Greg. Hi.

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Hi, Eric. Thanks for that kind introduction.

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If I were to tell people a little bit about me,

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all I can say is, for me, the certain things

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that happened in my life when I was really young

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were just really strange. There was nobody to

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really help me. through any of that process.

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And that process has affected me my entire life,

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who made me who I am today, which is, it's a

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huge part of me. It wasn't a fun thing, by the

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way, I guess I should clarify that. So, yeah,

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I think if I were to just tell people what I'm

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all about or who I am, I'm just a person that

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really just cares about people. I've just always

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been that way since I was little. I believe that

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everybody's really that way in the end, but it's

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just something that was always. Important to

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me. I always loved people. I still do I'm a sensitive

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person. It makes me sad to be quite honest You

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know some of the things like we were taught before

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we started recording we were talking about comments

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that people make it's very sad to be quite honest

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with you, too I actually get sad for them because

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I don't think people realize by by spending time

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on the other side like I have When people do

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cruel things, I don't think they understand what

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they're doing because they're gonna create a

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whole lot of pain for themselves That's the thing

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that they're eventually going to encounter when

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they eventually leave this plane. So I actually

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feel compassion for them. I feel bad for them.

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and I'm saddened by it rather than getting angry

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about it. In the past, you know, I used to get

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angry about some things, but it's more it's more

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sadness for them and sadness for the world. But

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this is all part of the process that we are going

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through as humanity. And I know that we're going

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to grow out of it. I know that we're going to

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be going through tumultuous times and it's just

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the way that it is. But also another thing about

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me that I learned the hard way is I care a lot

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about health. You know, this this body, I really

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believe. Just like the ancient scriptures say,

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this body is the temple of God. This is where

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he resides. This is his home. And so I believe

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that we need to respect it. And I believe that

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there is a very evil power out there that is

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actually on purpose trying to harm this body.

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That's why we see things in the water. That's

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why we see things in the air. That's why we see

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things in the food, even our medicine sometimes.

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And I'm not here to make any medical claims,

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right? And I'm not gonna name any products or

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nothing like that. I'm just saying. To me it's

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pretty obvious that something is happening and

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I just saw the latest statistics because by the

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way I worked in the medical field for a little

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over two decades and so I follow a lot of the

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trends and right now the trends for people getting

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sick is so high. I mean it's astronomically high

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we've never seen anything like it including children

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which is very sad but this is all part of the

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plan. This is part of the evil plan and they're

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saying that in the next five years that our cancer

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rates are gonna double. This is not an accident.

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And so I try to educate now that I've been through

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it myself. And that's a whole other aspect, but

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I really think, Eric, that the connection between

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spirituality and actual health, like physical

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health, life, they have a lot to do with each

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other. That's why when you see people like, even

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like the stories of Jesus, what did he really

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go do? He went around preaching the truth and

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he went around healing people from illness. I

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mean, these are the two pivotal points. And it's

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really important and even in front of the hospitals,

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this is a very kind of almost there. I say big

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secret that nobody's noticed. I have a lot of

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stuff that I know now because of the information

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that's given to me in front of hospitals. There's

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a symbol that hospitals use. The symbol they

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use is actually the symbol for the real tree

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of life. They're trying to tell you we're in

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charge of your life, you know, meaning we tell

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you what's good for you and all this is by design.

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I mean, this is this is all around this and I'm

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not a big Conspiracy guy or anything. I'm actually

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if people want to know my personality I'm actually

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a huge skeptic and it's really hard for me to

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believe certain things and I have to verify verify

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verify Whether it's with science a common sense

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critical thinking ancient history ancient scripture

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So there's a lot of things it's really hard to

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convince me of something I really have to have

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good data to really believe stuff that gets a

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little wacky Which we're gonna be touching on

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some of that today. So Well, I appreciate that,

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and I'm in agreement about the relationship between

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physical body and spiritual self. Okay, these

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things are interrelated, something I don't understand

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very well, but it is an important part of our

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journey here, certainly. All right, let's focus

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on near -death experience. Normally at this point,

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I would say, okay, It happened to you here. Tell

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me what happened that day that led up to it.

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But for you, there was a lead up of quite a few

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years before your overdose that we're going to

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talk about. So if you could briefly get into

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some of that history, not too much. And then

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let's get to what really happened on that big

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day. So the simple fact is when I was around

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seven or eight years old, I had something very

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strange happen to me. Obviously, I'm not gonna

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go into details because it would be a little

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too long. All I can say is that I was actually

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just playing with toys by myself in my room like

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a little kid would do. Something kind of spoke

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to me and what was speaking to me was showing

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me images. It was showing me like war. I saw

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tanks. I saw kids screaming and running. I saw

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a lot of pain and suffering and it was horrible.

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And I could feel it in my soul. So it wasn't

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just a vision. It was a vision with emotion,

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like almost like I could feel the people's pain.

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I was very confused by this, if you can imagine

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that. I mean, I'm just a kid and I didn't understand

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it. And so I had this conversation with this

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quote unquote, there is a kind of entity, I guess

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you could call it. And we had a little conversation

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about the pain of the world, the suffering, different

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things like this. And I basically tried to kind

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of brush it off. And, you know, I'm just a little

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kid playing toys, but it was confusing to me.

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I always remembered it. It has a lot to do with

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the pain of the world is actually in all of us.

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All the pain that people create to each other,

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because we're all one in the end. So somewhere

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buried deep down inside of us, anything we do

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to another is being done unto us. I think in

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ancient scripture, I think Jesus said it, you

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know, I can't remember the verse exactly, but

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it's something like, You do unto others your

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you do unto yourself or as you do unto God you

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do unto yourself something something like that

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But the simple fact is is that's I've seen it.

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It's really that simple. And so obviously that's

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why scripture say love your neighbor as yourself

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It's pretty basic, but it's there's a deep wisdom

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in it And so that's kind of how the beginning

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of this happened within months I started feeling

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a great deal of pain and suffering in my soul.

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There's nothing wrong with me physically I was

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totally a healthy child, but I had this pain

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and it felt like just Suffering in my soul and

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I couldn't explain it and it was really heavy

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and it affected me a great deal It affected me

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for so long that I started feeling just extremely

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sad depressed It was wearing me down and it was

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so extreme. It wasn't just like the pain of one

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person or two people or ten people It felt like

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in the millions. It was too much way too much

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Unfortunately, I became very you know, I wanted

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to end my life It was too painful and it just

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got too heavy. So by the time I was about 10

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years old, I believe Now is when the first time

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I attempted to to do that and sadly every time

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I would try because I tried many times I would

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poison myself, you know, this is something that

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I was trying to I was trying to do and to kind

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of skip over a little bit a lot of that stuff

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because then there was a lot of confusion my

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parents were confused like why is this happening

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to my child because I had really good parents

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I'd get family nothing bad, you know had happened

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so After all this fast forwarding after attempting

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many times and failing every time By the time

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I was 18 years old, I was like, this is ridiculous.

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I keep trying. I keep failing. I've seen all

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the psychologists and psychiatrists and tried

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their silly pharmaceuticals that they think I

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have a chemical imbalance. It had nothing to

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do with that. And I was new in my heart of hearts

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that it didn't have anything to do with that.

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But I was in so much pain for living all those

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years that way that one day I just decided to

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take as many pills as I possibly could. I lined

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them up. You know, I got these Costco bottles.

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you know ibuprofen and Tylenol and etc and whatever

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pharmaceutical I could find in the cupboard and

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They had prescribed me also and just I just lined

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them up and I just started taking them by the

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handful I was I wasn't a lot of pain I was crying

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and as I was doing that and this was like my

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last attempt I was like I have to do something

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so extreme because I keep surviving and so I

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tried to put down a thousand pills I didn't reach

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a thousand but I did I was pretty close. It was

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about eight hundred and you know, 30 something

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octiles, but I was just shy of a thousand. And

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I always remember reading on the bottles, don't

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ever take this stuff with alcohol, so what did

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I do? I took it with alcohol, you know. I was

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trying to do everything that I could. It's really

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stupid. Do I regret it? I regretted a great deal

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because I just, knowing what I know now, I just

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would never want to hurt, I wouldn't want to

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hurt anybody, of course. I don't want to hurt

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myself, of course, but doing it's a disrespect.

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That's what it feels like to me. It's disrespectful

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to God to harm the very gift that we have. It's

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disrespectful. I regret what I've done very much.

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And if anything good can come out of it, that's

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the important part. Well, let's talk about it.

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What happened next? Did somebody find you? Did

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you end up in the hospital? So what I did was

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I did it around midnight so that nobody would

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find me. You know, I just wanted to do it and

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go to bed. And of course I did. And I woke up

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about three hours later, maybe four, and I felt

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so sick. I mean, I felt like I was dying. You

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know, I'd have blackouts and I would see not

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very kind images. I was just hoping it would

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be over. I wanted this to just end, but I ended

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up being found around six or seven in the morning.

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Then I was rushed to the emergency room. By the

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time I got there, the doctors said, there's almost

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nothing we can do because you took these pills

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so long ago. There's nothing that can be done

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at this point, but if you want, they said, I

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guess we can pump your stomach, but there's probably

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nothing to do. So they put a tube down my throat.

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They plopped my stomach. They gave me activated

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charcoal in timeframes regularly. They put me

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in a room, hospital room. And I remember a doctor

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walking in alone. He wanted to have a private

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conversation with me. And he just asked me, he

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said, look, I'm looking at the report here. It

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says that you took just shy of a thousand pills.

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He said, I'd like you to tell me the truth. And

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I was like, really confused. I'm like, what do

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you mean the truth? And he said, there's no way

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you took that many pills. And I'm like, well,

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you don't have to believe me, but I know what

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I did. And then I became curious. I said, why

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do you think that I didn't take these many pills?

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He said, because nobody could survive that. He

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said, it would have absolutely done a huge number

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on your heart and you shouldn't survive that.

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That's when I got kind of curious. I was like,

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damn, how did I survive this? Right? When he

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left, I remember there was these like beings

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of light by my bed. They were talking in unison

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with one voice, but I was trying to ignore them.

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of all things i just didn't i just was trying

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to ignore them i didn't really want to think

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about it much but they kept saying things like

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you'll never do it again you'll never do it again

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you'll never do it again you know they repeated

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it like that over and over almost like a mantra

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and i would almost have like these visions which

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i was trying to ignore i was like no i'm not

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seeing anything this is not happening basically

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almost like i could feel my future and i could

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feel that i would never do it again that was

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the last time and i kept thinking that can't

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be true because i was already planning in my

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head that I was going to get out of there and

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plan it again. And in about a month, I was going

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to try again. I remember thinking to myself,

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you know, you guys are wrong. Whoever's talking,

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you're wrong. I know my head. I'm going to do

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this again. And that really shows you the difference

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between the head of the flesh, the brain, as

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compared to the spirit. And the truth is the

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spirit won, because the spirit was right. I never

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did ever try again. And they were absolutely

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correct. And everything they showed me was right.

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And so that was a big thing. And so I never did

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do it again, but I did find out after I left

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the hospital a few months later, something a

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month, two months later, I did find out that

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I had caused myself to have severe heart damage.

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And so my heart was now all screwed up. So let

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me just interject at that point, because most

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people the first time that they hear your story,

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they're going to say, Well, okay, where's the

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NDE in that? Where did you die and go over to

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the other side. I'm just going to say, be patient,

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it's still coming. Yeah, because that wasn't

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when it happened. If anything, I just saw there's

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a path that is taken when you go to the other

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side. And the beginning of the path is actually

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always dark, certain level of pain and reflection

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of life and different things. I saw that part.

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But that's all I saw when I did the pills. I

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just saw the darkness. And so after that, I had

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this heart issue. And of course, I eventually

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saw a cardiologist and the cardiologist told

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me he's like, look, this is gonna kill you. He's

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like, you're only gonna have so many years. He

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said, you should be dead in 10, maybe before.

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And he said, you know, we really probably need

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to do like surgery or, you know, we need to do

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something to try to fix your heart. But in my

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mind, I just thought, it's fine. Leave my heart

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alone. It'll be okay. And when I pass, I pass.

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For me, I wasn't afraid of it. It's sad to say

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this, but. I was welcoming it. I'm like, OK,

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when it happens, it happens. You know, I'm not

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worried about it. So I kept living my life. But

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then this is where the end part comes in. It

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was just it was completely random. I had a friend

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who was having a rough time and him and then

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somebody else very close to me. The three of

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us were like, hey, let's just go and have a day

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out in nature. So we went for a drive. We stumbled

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upon this beautiful. Spot is actually kind of

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a secret spot. I was surprised We found that

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nobody could find this almost and when we went

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in there there was a canyon and you literally

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have to climb down into this canyon and then

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the canyon was a Beautiful river with you know,

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beautiful rocks and trees and it was just such

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a great spot and we could swim right there in

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the river and So that's what we did. We went

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there to just hang out It was a beautiful summer

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day and just have a beautiful day at the river

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and that's what we were doing You're just hanging

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out. We're having a good time And it's hard for

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me to describe this part, Eric, but something

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kind of came over me. I felt like fun, it felt

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kind of weirdly peaceful, but I also felt like

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something was calling me. And I felt like being

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alone. I felt like I needed to be alone in order

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to quote unquote, I guess, receive this call.

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I didn't really know what it was. I could just

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feel it. So I told the guys that I was with,

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I was like, look guys, I'm really sorry to do

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this, but I think I want to spend a little alone

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time. You know, I didn't have any expectations.

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I had zero idea what was happening. I just felt

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like being alone, which is unusual, right? I

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just wanted to have a good time with my friends.

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And so they understood. They kept doing whatever

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they were doing. And then I just started walking

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up the river because the river was it was very

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long. There was a lot of space and area. You

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could walk for quite a while. So I just started

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walking. I just started walking up the river

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by myself and feeling this strange feeling of

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kind of peace. And I was trying not to think

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of anything. I was like, you know, I just. See

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what happens just go with it kind of thing and

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I did and I just kept walking up the river and

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then eventually For whatever reason I don't even

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know how I chose it. There was this gigantic

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rock and I called this day the day on the rock

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I that's what I call it now and I sat on that

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rock and the water The water the river was hitting

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really hard right down that spot It was so loud

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the river that if I were to look down the river

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Which I was very far away at this point if I

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were to even able to see my friends If I were

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to yell at them, they wouldn't even hear me.

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It was so loud. We were so far away and the river

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was very pronounced. And I just sat there and

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I just started kind of listening to the water,

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feeling this peaceful feeling just kind of sitting

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there. And I decided to close my eyes. And as

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I closed my eyes, I started listening to the

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water almost like it almost became a little hypnotic.

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Like, you know, it's like you're listening to

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a mantra or something that's hypnotic. And the

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sound of the water, I started like it started

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doing something. It reminds me of a scriptural

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verse that says, and the voice of God is like

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the sound of many waters. This is where I really,

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in time, I learned the magic of water. And in

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time, it's gonna be revealed to humanity. We

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have forgotten the magic of water and what it

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can really do for us and the many uses of it.

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And it's even this relationship to God, as crazy

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as all that sounds. And so as I listened to it,

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I decided to almost tell myself, you know what?

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Just don't think of anything. Like try to clear

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your mind almost like a meditation, right? So

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I just decided to like let all the worries all

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the ideas just let everything fade away and I

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just was sitting in stillness And as I did that

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I started hearing my heartbeat, you know when

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you're really silence You can hear your own heartbeat.

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A lot of people have had that experience And

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that's when I heard I could hear my own heartbeat

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all screwed up because it would it would beat

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and it would just stop Completely almost like

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a flat line and I remember feeling that as it

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flatlined Was inching towards death or somewhere

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I could feel it and then all sudden beat again

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and it was doing this and the longer that I was

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there the longer these pauses of my death was

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happening and So as that was happening, I started

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the door start to open to this like it was a

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path of darkness I don't know why we called this

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but there's a Bible verse and before I keep going

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I want people to know I am NOT a Bible thumper.

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I don't study the scriptures Honestly, I tried

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to read the Bible when I was younger and I was

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going through a lot of my suffering. It made

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no sense to me. I didn't understand it. I thought

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it was boring. I had zero interest in it. So

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that's why it's weird when you hear me bring

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up Bible verses because I bring them up because

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they came to me instead of me looking for them.

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And so what happened was now Bible verses as

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I walked through the valley of the shadow of

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death, I will fear no evil. So I'm walking down

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what I mean, it's like I'm literally traveling

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down this corridor of darkness and there's all

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these things. that are trying to almost like

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get my attention or trying to tempt me with different

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things. But the premise of what I was doing up

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was I don't want to hear anything or anyone.

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I just want to be still for a moment. I just

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want a little peace, you know? And so I didn't

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pay attention to them. And as I didn't pay attention

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to them, I got deeper into this dark corridor.

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And then the deeper I got, this thing started

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getting ramped up. Then I realized something

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doesn't want me to go down this path I could

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feel it and it knew me so well whatever this

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dark entity was knew me it knew how to try to

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tempt you and I could just feel it as I'm going

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down this dark corridor and it continues to happen

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and as I got really deep that's when things got

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crazy because this thing was noticing I'm not

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getting to this guy when I got deep it pulled

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out the deepest fears I have so somehow it knows

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my deepest fears and it started showing these

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like bugs Crawling all over me. In fact, I saw

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when I finally reached the end of this dark path,

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which took a while I saw my body laying on the

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earth and Then all these bugs started crawling

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all over me and crawling into my ears and my

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nose and it's like I wanted to freaking panic

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But I knew somehow that that's what it wanted

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So I just stayed calm and I just was like, you

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know what you want to take me? Take me you want

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to threaten me? Just do it. I'm not gonna fight

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So I just went into that piece and my whole body

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was covered with these different bugs and scorpions

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and snakes. Just everything that's creepy crawly

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terrible. And then my whole body started like

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decomposing into the soil. So it started disappearing.

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I was sinking into the soil and by the time my

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body was gone, everything just went dark. All

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of a sudden everything's just black. And then

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it took about, I'm trying to really remember

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here, it took about five, 10, 15 seconds. Something

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along this and then boom just total bright light

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totally blinding can't see a thing totally white

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and Then all of a sudden the light kind of just

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dies down ever so slowly and it's a woman Now

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I say woman. Let me clarify this being of light

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doesn't have a sex Okay, so I say woman because

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the vibe the energy that was coming off of her

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was so female It's like mother earth. We call

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it mother earth. We don't say father earth, right?

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It's an energetic thing Do you feel at this point

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like you have gone someplace? Like your spirit

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is out of your body. I mean you were mentioning

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about your heart And you told me the other day

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you could tell when it actually stopped Yes,

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so or do you feel like you were just in a meditative

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kind of state? So this is what it felt like to

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me because my heart would stop so much And just

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to keep me alive, boom, it would do the bare

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minimum to keep me alive. So I felt like I was

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between heaven and earth. Now, this is kind of

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going out of the timeline, but I forgot to mention

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it. When I had the thing happen to me as a child

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that I brought up, where the whole weird conversation

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with whoever was talking to me, my body got marked.

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And this is where things get really, really strange.

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My body got marked, but I didn't understand what

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it was. I got this mark that appeared on the

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it's on my upper right leg It's on my thigh this

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thing appeared on my body after that child the

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incident that happened to me as a child I didn't

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think anything of it. I never told anybody I

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just had it on my body for a long time. I eventually

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showed my mom I believe I think I was in my early

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30s when I shared it with her I don't remember

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did it ever go away No, it's still there and

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and eventually The spirit explained to me what

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it was and that's kind of why I'm bringing it

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up because the mark has to do With giving you

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it's almost like I want to call it like a pass

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It's really weird to call it that like a special

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pass or something that allows me to travel between

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heaven and earth I know that sounds really odd.

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It's actually of all places. It's in Chinese

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folklore It's called the mark of the dragon because

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a dragon what a dragon really is. I think people

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misunderstand I know they look at it as a negative

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thing A dragon is a serpent with wings. There's

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even people like Quetzalcoatl, which they call

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them the feathered serpent. And so I didn't understand

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any of this though. All I knew is that this mark

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appeared. When I showed my mom, she's like, what

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the heck is that? You never had that. She said,

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you were a baby. I changed your diapers. I know

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your body and you never had that. She's like,

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where did that come from? And of course I explained

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to her, but my mom's like me. She's a skeptic

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and I don't even think she believed it, but she

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saw it. She knows it's real. This whole thing

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that's happening, where my heart is stopping

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and I literally feel like I'm inching towards

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death and then this bright light and it's a being.

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The light is her clothing. So that's why it's

00:24:29.740 --> 00:24:32.660
so weird because you can feel everything that

00:24:32.660 --> 00:24:35.980
she is. It comes from her heart and her soul.

00:24:36.319 --> 00:24:41.140
Her clothing is what personifies her heart. So

00:24:41.140 --> 00:24:42.900
what I'm saying is that the moment I was in front

00:24:42.900 --> 00:24:45.380
of her, I could feel everything about her. I

00:24:45.380 --> 00:24:48.730
could feel her infinite patience, her infinite

00:24:48.730 --> 00:24:51.589
compassion, this level of love. I mean, there

00:24:51.589 --> 00:24:54.609
is no human I've ever met that is at that level.

00:24:54.829 --> 00:24:56.950
And I think the majority of people, including

00:24:56.950 --> 00:24:59.950
myself, would have guessed that this was either

00:24:59.950 --> 00:25:03.569
God or some type of special angel. I mean, that

00:25:03.569 --> 00:25:05.450
would have been the guess, you know, but when

00:25:05.450 --> 00:25:10.490
I was in this place, I was trying to not think

00:25:10.490 --> 00:25:14.609
anything. Thoughts kind of disrupted everything.

00:25:15.099 --> 00:25:18.099
So instead I was just like feeling it and I didn't

00:25:18.099 --> 00:25:21.740
want to interject ideas because I remember one

00:25:21.740 --> 00:25:23.339
thing that was whispered to me as I was going

00:25:23.339 --> 00:25:26.140
through the dark corridor was let go of all your

00:25:26.140 --> 00:25:29.519
beliefs. Let go of all your preconceived notions.

00:25:29.839 --> 00:25:32.819
Let go of all your ideas because only then will

00:25:32.819 --> 00:25:35.500
you see truth because otherwise our ideas get

00:25:35.500 --> 00:25:38.059
in the way. We can self manifest like let's say

00:25:38.059 --> 00:25:39.579
I'm Buddhist and I really believe in Buddhism

00:25:39.579 --> 00:25:41.680
and then I encounter Buddha, you know, and I'm

00:25:41.680 --> 00:25:43.819
like, okay, I kind of self manifest that I didn't

00:25:43.819 --> 00:25:46.519
want to have. any idea and I still don't I don't

00:25:46.519 --> 00:25:49.140
have any I'm not religious I don't have any beliefs

00:25:49.140 --> 00:25:51.740
in regards to that but obviously I don't just

00:25:51.740 --> 00:25:53.200
believe that God's there I know he's there now

00:25:53.200 --> 00:25:56.240
I mean I met him so I know it's real but the

00:25:56.240 --> 00:25:58.859
point is is that I'm before this being and it

00:25:58.859 --> 00:26:00.599
was really strange because when you're once you're

00:26:00.599 --> 00:26:03.519
on the other side you truly are naked and what

00:26:03.519 --> 00:26:05.839
I mean by naked is I'm not talking about clothing

00:26:05.839 --> 00:26:09.160
on the other side your heart is just totally

00:26:09.160 --> 00:26:13.720
exposed completely naked and so I'm standing

00:26:13.720 --> 00:26:16.640
there before her, and the very first thing I

00:26:16.640 --> 00:26:18.519
say, because when we speak here on this world,

00:26:18.519 --> 00:26:21.039
at least for me, I try to think before I speak,

00:26:21.339 --> 00:26:24.160
right? So I don't say anything weird, you know,

00:26:24.180 --> 00:26:26.200
because I do have Asperger's, and so sometimes

00:26:26.200 --> 00:26:28.079
I say things that upset people, but it's never

00:26:28.079 --> 00:26:30.380
my intention. I have to watch my thoughts before

00:26:30.380 --> 00:26:33.279
I speak. In this place, that's not the way it

00:26:33.279 --> 00:26:35.440
worked. In this place, it just came straight

00:26:35.440 --> 00:26:37.359
out of my heart. Blurry now, didn't even get

00:26:37.359 --> 00:26:39.660
a chance to think about it, and it just told

00:26:39.660 --> 00:26:42.079
her, as I'm before her, I want to be like you.

00:26:42.349 --> 00:26:44.049
You know, that was the first thing that I remember

00:26:44.049 --> 00:26:46.589
ever came out of my heart and I said it I know

00:26:46.589 --> 00:26:50.470
why I said it because deep in my heart She was

00:26:50.470 --> 00:26:52.450
everything that I ever wanted in my life from

00:26:52.450 --> 00:26:55.069
the moment my suffering began that seven years

00:26:55.069 --> 00:26:57.549
old eight year old child There's only one thing

00:26:57.549 --> 00:27:01.630
I wanted Eric. I wanted to feel happiness. I

00:27:01.630 --> 00:27:08.829
wanted to be happy Because my suffering was so

00:27:08.829 --> 00:27:13.200
great and I didn't want anything else And I knew

00:27:13.200 --> 00:27:17.819
that nothing could make me happy as far as like

00:27:17.819 --> 00:27:22.380
fancy things, cars, clothes, money, houses. None

00:27:22.380 --> 00:27:26.940
of this could make me happy. This pain was just

00:27:26.940 --> 00:27:29.839
something else. And you'd had it for so many

00:27:29.839 --> 00:27:34.339
years. Yeah. And was she relieving that pain

00:27:34.339 --> 00:27:37.740
for you? It's not that she was relieving it.

00:27:38.059 --> 00:27:42.039
It was the being before her. I just knew somehow

00:27:42.039 --> 00:27:45.160
in my heart this was everything I'd been looking

00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:49.960
for. It was everything I ever wanted. And so

00:27:49.960 --> 00:27:52.019
I just said it. I was like, I want to be like

00:27:52.019 --> 00:27:55.000
you. I want to have that. I want to be like you.

00:27:55.759 --> 00:27:58.279
And I always remember her response because she

00:27:58.279 --> 00:28:03.539
said, you are me, and I am you. And immediately,

00:28:04.319 --> 00:28:09.099
because I'm such a skeptic, Immediately not arguing

00:28:09.099 --> 00:28:11.220
with her, but I I tried to point out there I

00:28:11.220 --> 00:28:15.539
was like look look at me because before her My

00:28:15.539 --> 00:28:17.940
heart was exposed everything that I am all my

00:28:17.940 --> 00:28:20.599
flaws is a human being. I just told her I'm like

00:28:20.599 --> 00:28:23.559
look at me. I'm not like you She just said you

00:28:23.559 --> 00:28:25.140
are me and I am you I'm like look at me. That's

00:28:25.140 --> 00:28:28.240
not true Look at this flawed human. I am not

00:28:28.240 --> 00:28:32.039
like you you are amazing. Look at me you know,

00:28:32.259 --> 00:28:34.160
I was trying to show her but it was so funny

00:28:34.160 --> 00:28:39.250
because When she spoke truth She never tried

00:28:39.250 --> 00:28:41.089
to defend herself after that. She never tried

00:28:41.089 --> 00:28:43.589
to argue back with me here I'm trying to point

00:28:43.589 --> 00:28:47.069
out to her my flaws and She it felt like she

00:28:47.069 --> 00:28:50.009
was saying I spoke truth and that's the end of

00:28:50.009 --> 00:28:53.069
it. Like that's the end There is no there's no

00:28:53.069 --> 00:28:56.410
more conversation here Yeah, love that and so

00:28:56.410 --> 00:28:58.910
that happened and then after I tried to point

00:28:58.910 --> 00:29:01.490
out all my flaws and she's not replying She she

00:29:01.490 --> 00:29:04.069
spoke her truth and then I just wanted to be

00:29:04.069 --> 00:29:07.170
with her It's almost like if you were just laying

00:29:07.170 --> 00:29:10.289
in the grass, you know next to a dog that you

00:29:10.289 --> 00:29:12.569
love and you just you're just being You know,

00:29:12.589 --> 00:29:15.269
there's no need to talk or you just lay next

00:29:15.269 --> 00:29:16.869
to each other. Maybe the dogs leaning on you

00:29:16.869 --> 00:29:20.269
I was just there with her in her presence almost

00:29:20.269 --> 00:29:23.269
in her arms a little bit But I just I was just

00:29:23.269 --> 00:29:25.849
happy to be there blown away by what's happening,

00:29:25.869 --> 00:29:28.289
but I didn't want to think I just was like I'm

00:29:28.289 --> 00:29:31.589
just gonna be let it be After spending so much

00:29:31.589 --> 00:29:33.890
time with her she finally grabbed my hand like

00:29:33.890 --> 00:29:36.890
she reached out her hand and I grabbed her hand

00:29:36.890 --> 00:29:40.230
and we started flying away and That's when I

00:29:40.230 --> 00:29:42.230
really started feeling like I'm leaving my body

00:29:42.230 --> 00:29:45.569
So the first part of the journey I was it felt

00:29:45.569 --> 00:29:48.109
like I was going into my body like I'm going

00:29:48.109 --> 00:29:50.569
to these depths and places that one thing I've

00:29:50.569 --> 00:29:53.390
learned that I know for certain now We have all

00:29:53.390 --> 00:29:55.109
these things inside of us that we don't know

00:29:55.109 --> 00:29:57.630
about Things that we haven't seen, you know,

00:29:57.670 --> 00:30:00.309
one of my favorite lines is It's a long story,

00:30:00.390 --> 00:30:02.690
but this ancient woman was told a guy she said,

00:30:02.869 --> 00:30:05.450
this will show you that which is hidden from

00:30:05.450 --> 00:30:08.130
you. You know, is this kind of line that I heard

00:30:08.130 --> 00:30:10.769
that I was like, because things are hidden from

00:30:10.769 --> 00:30:13.470
us. There's things that we're not aware of. And

00:30:13.470 --> 00:30:16.410
anyway, once you go through all that, you can

00:30:16.410 --> 00:30:18.710
go to this other place. It's like dealing with

00:30:18.710 --> 00:30:21.569
your garbage before you can move on to a beautiful

00:30:21.569 --> 00:30:23.410
place. Like you have to be almost purified of

00:30:23.410 --> 00:30:26.609
your darkness or something. So I'm with her.

00:30:26.710 --> 00:30:29.210
She grabs my hand. We start. kind of floating

00:30:29.210 --> 00:30:31.190
off into outer space, like literally the cosmos.

00:30:31.390 --> 00:30:33.829
It's literally the heavens, outer space. And

00:30:33.829 --> 00:30:36.269
as we're going, I can see the earth disappearing.

00:30:36.490 --> 00:30:38.769
It's getting smaller and we're leaving. And then

00:30:38.769 --> 00:30:41.430
boom, I feel like a string or a rope that just

00:30:41.430 --> 00:30:45.509
stops. And I felt all my attachments. I felt

00:30:45.509 --> 00:30:48.970
all the people I love, you know, family members,

00:30:49.630 --> 00:30:52.210
friends, all these, what we would call attachments.

00:30:52.849 --> 00:30:55.250
And I could feel them all. And the attachment

00:30:55.250 --> 00:30:59.609
was love. Could feel the love I didn't feel attachments

00:30:59.609 --> 00:31:02.809
to like a car or house or a bank account I felt

00:31:02.809 --> 00:31:05.329
attachments that had everything to do with love

00:31:05.329 --> 00:31:08.750
and when I felt that moment so much happened

00:31:08.750 --> 00:31:12.150
in that moment because it Felt like I wanted

00:31:12.150 --> 00:31:15.569
to go back the love was drawing me back and it

00:31:15.569 --> 00:31:18.569
was difficult because here I've been suffering

00:31:18.569 --> 00:31:22.170
all my life release the majority of it and Now

00:31:22.170 --> 00:31:24.369
I feel all this love and I want to run back to

00:31:24.369 --> 00:31:26.980
all these people And not only that, the biggest

00:31:26.980 --> 00:31:30.299
attachment was to this body. So this body, like

00:31:30.299 --> 00:31:31.960
the idea of who this is, you know, like your

00:31:31.960 --> 00:31:33.460
date of birth, your social security number, whoever

00:31:33.460 --> 00:31:35.640
you think that you are, right? This character

00:31:35.640 --> 00:31:39.880
in this movie or whatever. I felt those attachments.

00:31:40.880 --> 00:31:43.059
And again, I wanted to go back and I felt so

00:31:43.059 --> 00:31:45.359
much love in this place that I was like, oh my

00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:47.359
God, I want to go back to my loved ones. And

00:31:47.359 --> 00:31:49.339
then I had to remind myself and this was really

00:31:49.339 --> 00:31:52.400
difficult because my suffering had to be so high

00:31:52.400 --> 00:31:56.039
just to have a chance. and I told myself dude

00:31:56.039 --> 00:31:58.859
what are you thinking you're thinking you want

00:31:58.859 --> 00:32:01.660
to go back don't you remember don't you remember

00:32:01.660 --> 00:32:04.880
did you forget you wanted this you wanted to

00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:06.940
leave your suffering that's all you've ever done

00:32:06.940 --> 00:32:09.240
is suffer and now you're feeling all this love

00:32:09.240 --> 00:32:11.519
you want to go back and I was just like that's

00:32:11.519 --> 00:32:14.680
right like snap out of it in my heart I wanted

00:32:14.680 --> 00:32:18.099
to go back but I forced myself to make a decision

00:32:18.099 --> 00:32:20.619
at that moment and it wasn't easy because I didn't

00:32:20.619 --> 00:32:22.579
feel suffering at that moment so it was hard

00:32:22.730 --> 00:32:25.210
But I made a really hard decision like a hard

00:32:25.210 --> 00:32:27.150
stop and said, you know what? I really want to

00:32:27.150 --> 00:32:29.809
go back, but I don't ever want to suffer like

00:32:29.809 --> 00:32:31.970
that anymore. It's really hard for me to do this,

00:32:31.970 --> 00:32:34.410
but this is a one in a lifetime opportunity.

00:32:34.769 --> 00:32:38.589
I'm about to finally leave. So I let it all go.

00:32:38.589 --> 00:32:40.630
It was really hard. I let go of my family. I

00:32:40.630 --> 00:32:42.450
let go of my body. I just let go of everything.

00:32:43.210 --> 00:32:45.369
And then once I made that decision, she took

00:32:45.369 --> 00:32:48.130
me. And then as we traveled, I learned a lot

00:32:48.130 --> 00:32:49.869
of things because one of the things that I that

00:32:49.869 --> 00:32:52.470
I didn't know is that stars are like doorways.

00:32:52.670 --> 00:32:54.430
i think that's why they call them star gates

00:32:54.430 --> 00:32:56.829
because a door or a gate is the same thing it's

00:32:56.829 --> 00:33:00.150
like an entrance and that's when we went to the

00:33:00.150 --> 00:33:03.589
first star we went to a star and the moment we

00:33:03.589 --> 00:33:06.230
went through it oh my goodness eric the speed

00:33:06.230 --> 00:33:09.130
just boom we just started traveling at a ridiculous

00:33:09.130 --> 00:33:11.130
speed i can't even begin to explain to you how

00:33:11.130 --> 00:33:13.910
fast we were going and earth was long gone like

00:33:13.910 --> 00:33:16.740
we are see you later we are super far and then

00:33:16.740 --> 00:33:18.779
we'd hit another star and then boom we'd head

00:33:18.779 --> 00:33:20.720
off in a different direction and then when we

00:33:20.720 --> 00:33:22.559
reached another one boom another direction and

00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:25.220
we were just traveling the stars and and it was

00:33:25.220 --> 00:33:28.839
so much speed so far away and then i remember

00:33:28.839 --> 00:33:32.900
starting to think to myself you know what i'm

00:33:32.900 --> 00:33:34.539
never gonna find my way back it wasn't actually

00:33:34.539 --> 00:33:37.319
thinking i could feel it i'm like i'm lost out

00:33:37.319 --> 00:33:39.079
here like i don't know where we're at i don't

00:33:39.079 --> 00:33:40.680
know where we're going and i'll tell you one

00:33:40.680 --> 00:33:42.299
thing there's no way i'm gonna find my way back

00:33:42.299 --> 00:33:45.000
and i knew that And at that point, I just had

00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:46.940
to surrender. I'm like, I'm never coming back.

00:33:47.259 --> 00:33:48.900
I really thought I was never going to come back.

00:33:48.960 --> 00:33:51.319
I thought I was officially dead. My body was

00:33:51.319 --> 00:33:54.000
long gone. You could cut my arm. I wouldn't have

00:33:54.000 --> 00:33:55.599
felt it. You know, it wouldn't have mattered.

00:33:55.680 --> 00:33:57.519
So I'm traveling to the stars with her and quite

00:33:57.519 --> 00:34:00.079
a while. I mean, at that speed, we were traveling

00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:03.660
a good five, 10 minutes. And that was a lot for

00:34:03.660 --> 00:34:06.259
those type of speeds. The one weird part that's

00:34:06.259 --> 00:34:09.440
a little tricky for me to understand, we're together,

00:34:09.440 --> 00:34:11.480
right? This being and I, this being of light.

00:34:11.690 --> 00:34:14.769
And in time, it felt like we were merging. So

00:34:14.769 --> 00:34:16.909
by the time I arrived, in fact, this is really

00:34:16.909 --> 00:34:18.929
odd. I'll show you a weird picture that really

00:34:18.929 --> 00:34:21.389
is odd. And I'll explain more about it later.

00:34:21.489 --> 00:34:23.230
But notice this picture, because I always wonder

00:34:23.230 --> 00:34:25.309
who in the heck drew this. Because this is a

00:34:25.309 --> 00:34:27.349
lot of what I saw. It was a lot like this. But

00:34:27.349 --> 00:34:29.329
notice that there's a being with the person.

00:34:29.710 --> 00:34:31.349
And notice that there's a little crown of light,

00:34:31.349 --> 00:34:33.869
like implying that this person is a being of

00:34:33.869 --> 00:34:36.989
light. And so this person's traveling with me.

00:34:37.010 --> 00:34:39.190
They're not just traveling with me. They're taking

00:34:39.190 --> 00:34:42.219
me. And we arrive to this place and everything

00:34:42.219 --> 00:34:45.840
just, boom, stops. Now it's also like stillness,

00:34:46.119 --> 00:34:49.440
you know, complete peace. And we arrive to what

00:34:49.440 --> 00:34:53.300
I call a council. There are literally these beings

00:34:53.300 --> 00:34:58.019
in a circle. The moment I arrived, they spoke

00:34:58.019 --> 00:35:01.119
to me with one voice. It wasn't like people talking

00:35:01.119 --> 00:35:03.260
over each other. It's like truly just one voice.

00:35:03.780 --> 00:35:06.719
And they said, we've been waiting for you. And

00:35:06.719 --> 00:35:08.599
when they said it, as they said it, we've been

00:35:08.599 --> 00:35:12.150
waiting for you. All this rush of information

00:35:12.150 --> 00:35:15.090
was presented to me showing me that they've known

00:35:15.090 --> 00:35:18.170
who I was for a very long time. They've been

00:35:18.170 --> 00:35:22.190
following since even before I was born. It was

00:35:22.190 --> 00:35:25.230
a whole plan of me being conceived, me coming

00:35:25.230 --> 00:35:27.690
into planet earth and they knew who I was. There's

00:35:27.690 --> 00:35:30.690
this whole plan and they're showing me all this.

00:35:31.369 --> 00:35:34.590
But all I can remember is I remember feeling

00:35:34.590 --> 00:35:38.170
this strange feeling of like I felt bad because

00:35:38.170 --> 00:35:40.460
it felt like I don't know why it felt like a

00:35:40.460 --> 00:35:42.920
dinner, but this is the best example I can use.

00:35:43.340 --> 00:35:45.199
It's as if somebody had prepared a wonderful

00:35:45.199 --> 00:35:47.619
meal for you or a dinner, and you're supposed

00:35:47.619 --> 00:35:49.519
to go to their house at 5 p .m. or whatever,

00:35:49.980 --> 00:35:52.519
but you never knew. Nobody told you. So if nobody

00:35:52.519 --> 00:35:54.199
told you there's dinner, you don't, you didn't

00:35:54.199 --> 00:35:57.119
even go to this random person's house. And it

00:35:57.119 --> 00:35:59.780
felt like they were waiting practically almost,

00:35:59.780 --> 00:36:01.099
I don't want to say an eternity, but they've

00:36:01.099 --> 00:36:03.219
been waiting all my life. And I didn't even know

00:36:03.219 --> 00:36:05.139
they were waiting for me. So I felt bad. I was

00:36:05.139 --> 00:36:07.599
like, oh my gosh, I'm so sorry. I didn't know.

00:36:07.869 --> 00:36:10.070
that you were waiting for me. You know, I didn't

00:36:10.070 --> 00:36:14.050
know this. So I had that weird feeling. And here's

00:36:14.050 --> 00:36:15.610
the part where some people get really upset.

00:36:16.570 --> 00:36:18.690
They said something else to me. People tell me

00:36:18.690 --> 00:36:19.989
I shouldn't even bring it up, but I want to be

00:36:19.989 --> 00:36:22.309
accurate to what happened. And I want you to

00:36:22.309 --> 00:36:24.449
be honest. We talked about this a lot the other

00:36:24.449 --> 00:36:27.030
day. And I know you're being honest. So please

00:36:27.030 --> 00:36:29.929
just go ahead. So they said one more thing to

00:36:29.929 --> 00:36:33.630
me, which was really just for me. And that's

00:36:33.630 --> 00:36:35.679
the reason that I don't really share it and I

00:36:35.679 --> 00:36:37.599
do think it actually would upset people but it

00:36:37.599 --> 00:36:38.920
doesn't matter it wasn't for them it was for

00:36:38.920 --> 00:36:41.800
me so they said one other thing and then after

00:36:41.800 --> 00:36:46.179
that I'm just here before them and that angel

00:36:46.179 --> 00:36:48.260
being is like it's like she's still with me kind

00:36:48.260 --> 00:36:50.619
of but it also felt like she was integrated into

00:36:50.619 --> 00:36:52.420
me so I was a little confused but I wasn't thinking

00:36:52.420 --> 00:36:54.380
about it much I was just before this council

00:36:54.380 --> 00:36:58.940
and each one of them felt like they had had lived

00:36:58.940 --> 00:37:03.389
a life so these counseled to me felt like they

00:37:03.389 --> 00:37:07.429
were beings that wanted to do God's will. That's

00:37:07.429 --> 00:37:09.570
what it felt like. It did not feel like normal

00:37:09.570 --> 00:37:13.170
lives. And so the first one had already lived

00:37:13.170 --> 00:37:15.889
a life, had fulfilled whatever it is that they

00:37:15.889 --> 00:37:17.429
were supposed to do, some type of thing that

00:37:17.429 --> 00:37:19.469
had to do with God's will. And then once he was

00:37:19.469 --> 00:37:21.969
done, which he was, he was now there placed on

00:37:21.969 --> 00:37:25.250
this, like, not on a shelf, but on this council.

00:37:25.889 --> 00:37:27.670
A lot like that thing behind you, actually, like

00:37:27.670 --> 00:37:30.010
that circle that's behind you, which is just

00:37:30.010 --> 00:37:31.789
a steering wheel to a boat. But it was like that.

00:37:32.380 --> 00:37:34.340
So that was the first one and then the second

00:37:34.340 --> 00:37:36.599
one same thing and all these beings that had

00:37:36.599 --> 00:37:39.559
come to life and done a Certain work that they

00:37:39.559 --> 00:37:41.719
were supposed to do. This has all been going

00:37:41.719 --> 00:37:44.239
on for thousands of years So this is not something

00:37:44.239 --> 00:37:48.780
there's a big grand master plan Right. I don't

00:37:48.780 --> 00:37:51.059
know all the details of it. I only knew pieces

00:37:51.059 --> 00:37:53.579
of it Now all these beings are there and there

00:37:53.579 --> 00:37:57.500
was one slot left. It was implying to me somehow

00:37:57.500 --> 00:38:01.210
That it's almost finished We are almost done

00:38:01.210 --> 00:38:04.489
with this plan that he's had for so long in that

00:38:04.489 --> 00:38:07.929
one spot. This is hard for me to say, but it

00:38:07.929 --> 00:38:09.989
felt like it felt like I was supposed to be in

00:38:09.989 --> 00:38:12.010
that spot. Like, that's why they were waiting

00:38:12.010 --> 00:38:14.349
for me. They're waiting for me to finish something

00:38:14.349 --> 00:38:16.809
that has been going on for a very long time.

00:38:17.309 --> 00:38:20.710
And then this is right before I get to meet,

00:38:20.849 --> 00:38:23.289
quote unquote, the Almighty, your God. One of

00:38:23.289 --> 00:38:26.090
them starts making a sound. It sounds like I

00:38:26.090 --> 00:38:27.989
can't I can't mimic it, but it was kind of like.

00:38:28.679 --> 00:38:32.079
and then the next one goes and they all start

00:38:32.079 --> 00:38:33.880
making these different sounds and the sounds

00:38:33.880 --> 00:38:37.199
are interjecting with each other and as the sounds

00:38:37.199 --> 00:38:39.780
interject with each other it creates a whole

00:38:39.780 --> 00:38:43.320
other sound that you can't even fathom but it's

00:38:43.320 --> 00:38:47.659
really deep extremely deep sound and the closest

00:38:47.659 --> 00:38:50.780
thing that you would say this sounds like ohm

00:38:50.780 --> 00:38:53.699
but it wasn't ohm it was so much more profound

00:38:53.699 --> 00:38:55.699
than that nothing that you could hear with the

00:38:55.699 --> 00:38:58.719
naked ear but as they're doing this it's opening

00:38:58.719 --> 00:39:01.940
up a door right in the center of all of them.

00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:06.360
And I could feel a great sense of almost honor

00:39:06.360 --> 00:39:10.119
because they were each making a sacrifice to

00:39:10.119 --> 00:39:12.539
open this door. As they opened it, they can't

00:39:12.539 --> 00:39:15.340
go through it. So the best, another dumb example

00:39:15.340 --> 00:39:16.860
that I can think of is if you were to get a bunch

00:39:16.860 --> 00:39:19.579
of strong men and a rubber band and they're all

00:39:19.579 --> 00:39:20.820
putting their hands in it and they're all trying

00:39:20.820 --> 00:39:24.219
to pull to open up like this circle so you could

00:39:24.219 --> 00:39:26.460
jump through it, but nobody who's holding it

00:39:26.460 --> 00:39:28.280
could jump through. does that make any sense

00:39:28.280 --> 00:39:31.400
eric yeah i i think i'm i think i'm catching

00:39:31.400 --> 00:39:34.280
on so they're opening this thing and i could

00:39:34.280 --> 00:39:36.360
feel that they were doing it for me they didn't

00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:38.139
say a word i just felt it like they were telling

00:39:38.139 --> 00:39:42.260
me go ahead like walk through it was almost instinctual

00:39:42.260 --> 00:39:45.760
i didn't think about it i just walked through

00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:48.159
and i just felt very grateful that they were

00:39:48.159 --> 00:39:50.179
doing this and it felt like such a great opportunity

00:39:50.179 --> 00:39:52.900
or whatever it was and i walked through and the

00:39:52.900 --> 00:39:56.050
moment i walked through The whole thing is left

00:39:56.050 --> 00:39:57.909
behind me as far as whatever I was dealing with

00:39:57.909 --> 00:40:02.090
whatever I am walking into this place and that's

00:40:02.090 --> 00:40:08.690
when I met God in just in all his Amazing glory,

00:40:08.710 --> 00:40:12.429
but it's he is the source of all things. He didn't

00:40:12.429 --> 00:40:15.570
speak a lot very few words Everything was mostly

00:40:15.570 --> 00:40:17.730
quote -unquote. Oh, I guess you could call it

00:40:17.730 --> 00:40:20.170
telepathic But the first thing I'll say is that

00:40:20.170 --> 00:40:24.800
he was absolutely massive is so big you can't

00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:27.500
even fathom the size of it. You know, you could

00:40:27.500 --> 00:40:29.059
stand before a mountain, you could stand before

00:40:29.059 --> 00:40:32.260
the sun, and not even close. So he was really

00:40:32.260 --> 00:40:35.360
big. And I should say also, he doesn't have a

00:40:35.360 --> 00:40:38.739
sex. He's definitely not human -like. The reason

00:40:38.739 --> 00:40:41.280
I call him he, just like the reason I called

00:40:41.280 --> 00:40:46.820
the angel a she, was because his energy was very

00:40:46.820 --> 00:40:51.579
male. Very, very, very male. And very heavy -handed.

00:40:51.789 --> 00:40:55.230
You could feel it reminds you of a scriptural

00:40:55.230 --> 00:40:57.369
verse that says that he will rule with an iron

00:40:57.369 --> 00:41:01.489
rod. His law, there is no breaking his law. There

00:41:01.489 --> 00:41:04.409
is no bending his law. His law is the law, you

00:41:04.409 --> 00:41:05.929
know, like the law of the land or, you know,

00:41:05.949 --> 00:41:07.530
it's kind of like if you had one of those fathers

00:41:07.530 --> 00:41:09.050
that, you know, you walk in the house as a little

00:41:09.050 --> 00:41:12.070
kid or something and he is the law, you know,

00:41:12.369 --> 00:41:14.230
and if whatever your father says goes, that's

00:41:14.230 --> 00:41:16.710
what goes, you know, he was really huge. Now,

00:41:16.710 --> 00:41:18.929
what was more interesting about it was not so

00:41:18.929 --> 00:41:21.230
much what he looked like, actually. It's what

00:41:21.230 --> 00:41:24.530
he moved like and what he sounded like. I can

00:41:24.530 --> 00:41:26.269
talk about what he looked like, but that wasn't

00:41:26.269 --> 00:41:29.989
the most prominent thing because he moved like

00:41:29.989 --> 00:41:34.989
a river. He looked like a gigantic cosmic river,

00:41:35.469 --> 00:41:38.849
but it was so many colors in the river. Stars

00:41:38.849 --> 00:41:42.329
and colors and reds and blues and even the background

00:41:42.329 --> 00:41:44.550
was actually kind of black like the universe.

00:41:44.630 --> 00:41:46.269
You know, when you look up at the stars, the

00:41:46.269 --> 00:41:49.110
background is black. and he's flowing like a

00:41:49.110 --> 00:41:52.510
river and again a lot of the stuff was very instinctual

00:41:52.510 --> 00:41:55.949
i literally start walking right into him and

00:41:55.949 --> 00:41:57.789
it looked like probably like a scene out of a

00:41:57.789 --> 00:42:00.650
movie because it looks like i'm walking into

00:42:00.650 --> 00:42:04.449
a river and i'm just walking into him up until

00:42:04.449 --> 00:42:07.289
i'm probably about to my waist deep i decided

00:42:07.289 --> 00:42:10.889
to lay in him so i just opened my arms and i

00:42:10.889 --> 00:42:14.170
just laid back as if ironically it looks a lot

00:42:14.170 --> 00:42:17.349
like baptism I think that there's a reason that

00:42:17.349 --> 00:42:20.230
they baptize in a river. Honestly, I think the

00:42:20.230 --> 00:42:22.449
river and the wind are the closest things that

00:42:22.449 --> 00:42:24.869
you'll ever see to look like God. And that's

00:42:24.869 --> 00:42:27.889
what he does, he washes things away. But he also

00:42:27.889 --> 00:42:30.909
carries knowledge and wisdom. So when I laid

00:42:30.909 --> 00:42:33.889
in him, the amount of information, I can't even

00:42:33.889 --> 00:42:36.849
begin to comprehend this, Eric. Every nanosecond,

00:42:36.989 --> 00:42:39.960
forget every second, every nanosecond. you'd

00:42:39.960 --> 00:42:42.840
have millions if not billions of the most brilliant

00:42:42.840 --> 00:42:45.719
ideas most wisest things that you've ever heard

00:42:45.719 --> 00:42:48.260
just flowing so it's kind of like if you were

00:42:48.260 --> 00:42:50.619
to stick your head into the internet and all

00:42:50.619 --> 00:42:52.340
the information that's flowing through the internet

00:42:52.340 --> 00:42:55.239
it's too much for anybody to grasp right but

00:42:55.239 --> 00:42:57.900
i could feel it like we say we don't have the

00:42:57.900 --> 00:43:00.099
bound the bandwidth for it to get downloaded

00:43:00.099 --> 00:43:04.099
that fast right you were just getting too much

00:43:04.099 --> 00:43:08.420
you couldn't even process it shall we say So

00:43:08.420 --> 00:43:12.380
this is an unusual explanation of God. I find

00:43:12.380 --> 00:43:15.239
it fascinating and really interesting. What do

00:43:15.239 --> 00:43:18.059
you say to people that just can't comprehend

00:43:18.059 --> 00:43:22.420
it because they have their own, you know, here's

00:43:22.420 --> 00:43:27.320
what I think God should look like or God should

00:43:27.320 --> 00:43:30.719
be like or move like or the size or the whatever

00:43:30.719 --> 00:43:33.380
because you talked about how he moved and how

00:43:33.380 --> 00:43:35.579
big he is and things like that. How do you find

00:43:35.579 --> 00:43:38.960
that people deal with that? Well, look, I mean

00:43:38.960 --> 00:43:41.739
like anything Eric before that ever happened

00:43:41.739 --> 00:43:44.780
to me, I mean I had no clue I literally had no

00:43:44.780 --> 00:43:46.719
clue what God would look like. I I mean I had

00:43:46.719 --> 00:43:49.219
ideas I'll tell you one thing all my ideas were

00:43:49.219 --> 00:43:51.659
shattered because it didn't fall into anything

00:43:51.659 --> 00:43:54.860
that I'd ever thought before in fact To be honest

00:43:54.860 --> 00:43:57.539
with you. I didn't even recognize them. I didn't

00:43:57.539 --> 00:44:00.880
know it was God at first I I had no idea what

00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:03.000
was happening, but I didn't think it was him

00:44:03.000 --> 00:44:05.980
It took me some time to figure it out and what's

00:44:05.980 --> 00:44:09.909
really crazy I thought to myself, somebody has

00:44:09.909 --> 00:44:12.230
had to have gone through this before, it can't

00:44:12.230 --> 00:44:14.750
just be me. So I would look in places, I would

00:44:14.750 --> 00:44:17.070
read in books, I was trying to find something

00:44:17.070 --> 00:44:19.489
and I couldn't and the story about how I found

00:44:19.489 --> 00:44:22.469
it is so weird. But without going into the story

00:44:22.469 --> 00:44:26.969
due to some time limits, this book, which a lot

00:44:26.969 --> 00:44:29.650
of people think it's nonsense, and I myself would

00:44:29.650 --> 00:44:32.880
have thought This was absolute nonsense. It's

00:44:32.880 --> 00:44:34.579
supposed to be a book that a guy translated from

00:44:34.579 --> 00:44:37.380
the hidden archives of the Vatican. It has stories

00:44:37.380 --> 00:44:39.760
about Jesus that you've never heard. Some of

00:44:39.760 --> 00:44:41.739
them are in there from the Bible, but other stuff

00:44:41.739 --> 00:44:44.340
you've never heard. The only reason I bring up

00:44:44.340 --> 00:44:47.159
this book is because at the very, very end of

00:44:47.159 --> 00:44:52.280
the book, Jesus starts describing the other side

00:44:52.280 --> 00:44:55.920
and God. I couldn't believe it. This is it. He

00:44:55.920 --> 00:44:58.389
describes exactly what I saw. He describes the

00:44:58.389 --> 00:45:01.050
sound, he describes it so beautifully, so poetically,

00:45:01.130 --> 00:45:03.829
even the beginning of it, he calls it the holy

00:45:03.829 --> 00:45:06.989
streams. Because it's like water, it's like streams

00:45:06.989 --> 00:45:10.590
of water. And he describes God so perfect, and

00:45:10.590 --> 00:45:12.929
what's so hilarious, because he uses the exact

00:45:12.929 --> 00:45:16.230
same words I used. And I never saw this book

00:45:16.230 --> 00:45:18.289
until many years after the fact. What's it called,

00:45:18.409 --> 00:45:21.489
by the way? It's called the Essene Gospel of

00:45:21.489 --> 00:45:25.139
Peace. And the key word is peace because remember,

00:45:25.139 --> 00:45:27.480
Jesus didn't go around saying, God be with you.

00:45:27.760 --> 00:45:30.519
He went around saying, peace be with you. And

00:45:30.519 --> 00:45:33.599
it was peace that gets you to these places. And

00:45:33.599 --> 00:45:35.780
everything that robs you of peace only pulls

00:45:35.780 --> 00:45:39.199
you farther away from God. So when he's describing

00:45:39.199 --> 00:45:41.599
them, if you didn't know any better, you're reading

00:45:41.599 --> 00:45:44.860
this thinking, okay, this is odd. And then at

00:45:44.860 --> 00:45:47.340
the very end of this beautiful paragraph, he

00:45:47.340 --> 00:45:51.280
says, for this is God, if you did but know it.

00:45:51.630 --> 00:45:55.690
Because you wouldn't even know because your ideas

00:45:55.690 --> 00:45:58.150
have gone in the way of the reality of what he

00:45:58.150 --> 00:46:02.409
is now granted Everything is born of him. So

00:46:02.409 --> 00:46:05.070
when I was there everything that's in our existence

00:46:05.070 --> 00:46:07.670
every tree every herb every animal Everything

00:46:07.670 --> 00:46:11.570
is born of him life itself is that everything

00:46:11.570 --> 00:46:13.789
that's alive. He's he's in everything that's

00:46:13.789 --> 00:46:16.849
alive That's a simple fact. He is in everything

00:46:16.849 --> 00:46:19.489
that's alive. So when I got to him and I'm laying

00:46:19.489 --> 00:46:23.090
in him massive amount of information which I

00:46:23.090 --> 00:46:25.309
knew I couldn't grab because if I did it would

00:46:25.309 --> 00:46:28.190
all kind of fade away and disappear so I either

00:46:28.190 --> 00:46:31.570
could grab one golden nugget or I just let all

00:46:31.570 --> 00:46:34.369
his glory flow through me and so I just let all

00:46:34.369 --> 00:46:36.250
his glory flow through me I rather just have

00:46:36.250 --> 00:46:38.329
him and not remember it I just decided to go

00:46:38.329 --> 00:46:40.969
with it and it was so much information but the

00:46:40.969 --> 00:46:44.429
weird thing about his information was that it

00:46:44.429 --> 00:46:47.429
was only answers so everything was an answer

00:46:47.429 --> 00:46:51.619
to Whatever question so if I were to even grasp

00:46:51.619 --> 00:46:53.840
one of these golden nuggets I would have to really

00:46:53.840 --> 00:46:56.940
figure out what the question is because an answer

00:46:56.940 --> 00:47:01.420
makes no sense Unless you know the question I

00:47:01.420 --> 00:47:03.400
could give you six point two three five seven.

00:47:03.539 --> 00:47:04.960
Oh, that's a brilliant answer. But what's the

00:47:04.960 --> 00:47:07.519
question, right? I don't even understand the

00:47:07.519 --> 00:47:11.800
answers and so he was nothing but answers and

00:47:11.800 --> 00:47:13.639
I remember he spoke to me at that moment because

00:47:13.639 --> 00:47:16.159
I was thinking like This is nothing but answers,

00:47:16.340 --> 00:47:18.280
and it doesn't make any sense to me, but I can

00:47:18.280 --> 00:47:20.260
feel the wisdom, I can feel the brilliance in

00:47:20.260 --> 00:47:22.440
it. And then that's when he spoke, he says, there

00:47:22.440 --> 00:47:25.719
are no questions here, only answers. That's what

00:47:25.719 --> 00:47:27.900
he said. And that's all he was. He was a river

00:47:27.900 --> 00:47:29.920
of answers. And all you have to do is figure

00:47:29.920 --> 00:47:31.539
out the right question. But he was nothing but

00:47:31.539 --> 00:47:34.139
answers. He was nothing but light. He was nothing

00:47:34.139 --> 00:47:37.159
but just crazy amounts of information. You can't

00:47:37.159 --> 00:47:39.219
even begin to fathom. You can never, bigger than

00:47:39.219 --> 00:47:41.940
the internet. And the internet's huge. It's like

00:47:41.940 --> 00:47:44.900
a grain of sand compared to what? how enormous

00:47:44.900 --> 00:47:48.360
God is, and the source of everything that comes

00:47:48.360 --> 00:47:52.059
from Him. I've got to ask you this, and think

00:47:52.059 --> 00:47:54.159
about it for a second if you want to before you

00:47:54.159 --> 00:47:59.840
answer. And that is, how are you feeling in God's

00:47:59.840 --> 00:48:03.360
presence? Because you've mentioned peace, you've

00:48:03.360 --> 00:48:06.420
mentioned knowledge, and a lot of other words.

00:48:06.920 --> 00:48:09.280
I haven't heard you say fear. I haven't heard

00:48:09.280 --> 00:48:11.559
you say love. I haven't heard a lot of other

00:48:11.559 --> 00:48:14.400
things. So I'm curious, dig deep. What were you

00:48:14.400 --> 00:48:17.579
really feeling? You made me cry with this one.

00:48:19.199 --> 00:48:22.460
I knew when I was a kid and I was feeling that

00:48:22.460 --> 00:48:24.980
emptiness and that pain, I just felt instinctive.

00:48:24.980 --> 00:48:27.739
I don't know how I knew this. I just knew that

00:48:27.739 --> 00:48:30.119
he was the only thing that could quench that

00:48:30.119 --> 00:48:33.199
thirst or make that pain subside. And when I

00:48:33.199 --> 00:48:37.730
was with him, I didn't feel empty anymore. I

00:48:37.730 --> 00:48:42.510
just had my father back. I just wanted to be

00:48:42.510 --> 00:48:47.309
with him. I just missed him. I was shown a lot

00:48:47.309 --> 00:48:53.030
of things. I was shown how he had chosen me for

00:48:53.030 --> 00:48:54.969
this. Apparently I volunteered. I didn't even

00:48:54.969 --> 00:48:58.170
know any of this stuff. Apparently I volunteered

00:48:58.170 --> 00:49:02.309
to come to Earth. I came here to want to do something

00:49:02.309 --> 00:49:05.110
actually for him. Something that would carry

00:49:05.110 --> 00:49:08.079
out his will on Earth. I didn't even realize

00:49:08.079 --> 00:49:09.519
that's why I went through all the suffering.

00:49:09.739 --> 00:49:11.579
Of course, that was a question I had for him

00:49:11.579 --> 00:49:15.480
at some point. I got to ask why did he not help

00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:17.539
me as a child when I used to pray to him and

00:49:17.539 --> 00:49:20.599
ask for help. I was really shocked when he said,

00:49:21.059 --> 00:49:23.119
well, I was there and he showed me visions of

00:49:23.119 --> 00:49:25.860
him watching over me as a child. But then he

00:49:25.860 --> 00:49:29.019
said, and I'm asking why didn't you help me with

00:49:29.019 --> 00:49:32.260
this pain? And he said, I allowed it. And I am

00:49:32.260 --> 00:49:34.360
shocked by that because I'm like, what are you

00:49:34.360 --> 00:49:35.760
talking about? You allowed it. I'm asking you

00:49:35.760 --> 00:49:37.619
for help to stop it. You're telling me you allowed

00:49:37.619 --> 00:49:39.920
it? But I was very confused because I'm like,

00:49:40.019 --> 00:49:43.599
he didn't cause it. He allowed it. So then I'm

00:49:43.599 --> 00:49:47.539
like, who caused this? And then, of course, I

00:49:47.539 --> 00:49:50.380
realized and saw that I had chosen a certain

00:49:50.380 --> 00:49:54.900
path before I was born. I chose it because the

00:49:54.900 --> 00:49:58.199
suffering that one goes through opens up the

00:49:58.199 --> 00:50:01.739
door to realizing what's truly important. If

00:50:01.739 --> 00:50:04.099
you always have your health and if you're always

00:50:04.099 --> 00:50:06.460
happy and you're in this life, well, you get

00:50:06.460 --> 00:50:08.619
sucked into life like, okay, yeah, I want to

00:50:08.619 --> 00:50:10.599
get a family and build a house and get a job

00:50:10.599 --> 00:50:12.840
and get a mortgage and get this cool car that

00:50:12.840 --> 00:50:14.579
I like and hang out with my friends. You get

00:50:14.579 --> 00:50:17.440
lost in life, but it's the suffering that begins

00:50:17.440 --> 00:50:19.860
to show you that none of that technically really

00:50:19.860 --> 00:50:22.079
matters. There's something so much bigger than

00:50:22.079 --> 00:50:24.019
that. That's why there's a verse in scripture

00:50:24.019 --> 00:50:26.840
that says, he who lets go of his life shall have

00:50:26.840 --> 00:50:29.880
it. He who holds on to his life shall lose it.

00:50:30.119 --> 00:50:32.840
Because we forget what's important like truly

00:50:32.840 --> 00:50:35.960
important in life I didn't realize that the suffering

00:50:35.960 --> 00:50:38.000
would open a door that would lead me to him and

00:50:38.000 --> 00:50:40.239
that's what he told me He said I allowed it because

00:50:40.239 --> 00:50:42.900
he said had I not allowed it. He said you would

00:50:42.900 --> 00:50:46.219
have never found me It's the suffering that led

00:50:46.219 --> 00:50:49.559
me to it What did you learn about your relationship

00:50:49.559 --> 00:50:53.239
with him? Just that I love him a lot and that

00:50:53.239 --> 00:50:56.719
He has a very big plan that we can't really completely

00:50:56.719 --> 00:50:59.639
fathom and understand And that this is not for

00:50:59.639 --> 00:51:01.519
nothing, and the suffering won't be forever,

00:51:01.699 --> 00:51:04.400
but there's a purpose behind our suffering and

00:51:04.400 --> 00:51:07.460
free will and free choice. I mean, most of our

00:51:07.460 --> 00:51:09.579
suffering comes from our own choices. We're the

00:51:09.579 --> 00:51:12.239
ones causing most of this. And we hurt each other

00:51:12.239 --> 00:51:15.599
so much, and it's very sad, but He does love

00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:18.500
us a great deal. Did you realize that you used

00:51:18.500 --> 00:51:21.400
the term father? Yeah, because it feels like

00:51:21.400 --> 00:51:23.619
that. I told you, it feels like a male, a very

00:51:23.619 --> 00:51:26.619
strong, like you're walking into a house that's

00:51:26.619 --> 00:51:29.530
His. And He has certain rules, and we need to

00:51:29.530 --> 00:51:31.869
learn them. But yeah, He is my Father in heaven.

00:51:32.210 --> 00:51:34.429
When we're all His children, we're all brothers

00:51:34.429 --> 00:51:36.789
and sisters here, Eric. All right. What happened

00:51:36.789 --> 00:51:40.010
next? So I just spent a lot of time with Him.

00:51:40.150 --> 00:51:42.190
And all this information was flowing and flowing,

00:51:42.210 --> 00:51:45.670
and I spent at least an hour, maybe two, something

00:51:45.670 --> 00:51:47.269
like that. I mean, I was there quite a while.

00:51:47.809 --> 00:51:50.369
And later on, I found out from one of the people

00:51:50.369 --> 00:51:53.050
who was on that trip with me. It's actually my

00:51:53.050 --> 00:51:55.050
brother. One of them was my brother. The other

00:51:55.050 --> 00:51:58.250
one was a good friend of mine. And my brother

00:51:58.250 --> 00:52:00.550
had told me that they saw me in the distance

00:52:00.550 --> 00:52:02.170
sitting on this rock and they're like dude you

00:52:02.170 --> 00:52:04.929
were there for Hours at some point we thought

00:52:04.929 --> 00:52:07.030
is he dead just sitting there like they thought

00:52:07.030 --> 00:52:09.150
there was something wrong Because it's just not

00:52:09.150 --> 00:52:12.329
normal and and I'm here in this other place Laying

00:52:12.329 --> 00:52:15.170
in not God's arms. It wasn't arms. I was laying

00:52:15.170 --> 00:52:18.469
in his river in his waters You know I was with

00:52:18.469 --> 00:52:21.429
them and I could feel the information almost

00:52:21.429 --> 00:52:23.230
I don't want to say being downloaded But it felt

00:52:23.230 --> 00:52:26.940
like it was going in me somewhere being stored

00:52:26.940 --> 00:52:29.239
in me somewhere I could just feel it and I went

00:52:29.239 --> 00:52:31.300
with that because I didn't want to ruin it by

00:52:31.300 --> 00:52:34.239
thinking anything and after quite a while all

00:52:34.239 --> 00:52:37.800
of a sudden I could hear in the faint distance

00:52:37.800 --> 00:52:41.599
the sound of the running water I was on that

00:52:41.599 --> 00:52:43.920
rock I was next to the river I faintly heard

00:52:43.920 --> 00:52:46.800
the water still and I remember feeling like my

00:52:46.800 --> 00:52:49.239
body was I was very much disconnected from it

00:52:49.239 --> 00:52:51.639
again you could cut my arm off and I knew I wouldn't

00:52:51.639 --> 00:52:56.519
feel it but I thought to myself can I open my

00:52:56.519 --> 00:53:01.699
eyes and I decided to try and I opened them very

00:53:01.699 --> 00:53:04.920
slowly and very little and You have to remember

00:53:04.920 --> 00:53:07.199
that all my life or at least the majority of

00:53:07.199 --> 00:53:09.219
it Not only was I in pain and suffering, but

00:53:09.219 --> 00:53:10.699
everything looked terrible to me. I couldn't

00:53:10.699 --> 00:53:12.300
see the beauty in anything I couldn't see the

00:53:12.300 --> 00:53:15.679
beauty in the mountains the sky the flowers like

00:53:15.679 --> 00:53:18.059
everything looked ugly to me in my suffering

00:53:18.059 --> 00:53:22.199
And when I opened my eyes ever so slowly It's

00:53:22.199 --> 00:53:24.760
the first time I saw the kingdom of God Because

00:53:24.760 --> 00:53:27.019
the kingdom of God is within you but it's all

00:53:27.019 --> 00:53:30.599
around you. You know, it's literally Anything

00:53:30.599 --> 00:53:33.920
that's alive and I and I opened my eyes and I

00:53:33.920 --> 00:53:36.599
could see somehow I don't know how it's all happening

00:53:36.599 --> 00:53:40.960
But I could see God's light in all things. I

00:53:40.960 --> 00:53:42.760
could see it in every rock I could see it in

00:53:42.760 --> 00:53:44.900
the river itself. I could see it in the wind

00:53:44.900 --> 00:53:47.900
I could see it in every little bug every every

00:53:47.900 --> 00:53:52.239
tree every bird. It was absolute beauty and in

00:53:52.239 --> 00:53:57.250
my heart I just knew. I was like, this is heaven

00:53:57.250 --> 00:54:00.829
on earth. It is here. I realized very quickly

00:54:00.829 --> 00:54:05.250
that our eyes are truly closed. We're not awake

00:54:05.250 --> 00:54:08.289
right now. Humans are definitely asleep. That's

00:54:08.289 --> 00:54:10.670
why they're so lost and confused, because they

00:54:10.670 --> 00:54:12.389
don't know their father in heaven. They don't

00:54:12.389 --> 00:54:15.769
know the truth. They're just guessing. They're

00:54:15.769 --> 00:54:17.690
guessing on their religions. They're guessing

00:54:17.690 --> 00:54:20.110
on their beliefs. They're guessing about everything.

00:54:20.250 --> 00:54:22.710
there's very little that humans know. Once in

00:54:22.710 --> 00:54:24.349
a while, they feel a little this, feel a little

00:54:24.349 --> 00:54:27.230
that, get a little intuition, a little inspiration.

00:54:27.250 --> 00:54:30.809
But for the most part, we're blind. And not only

00:54:30.809 --> 00:54:33.329
are our eyes closed, our ears too. And I open

00:54:33.329 --> 00:54:37.550
my eyes and just see this absolute beauty, but

00:54:37.550 --> 00:54:42.670
I also could hear God's voice. It's a sound.

00:54:43.230 --> 00:54:46.349
And it was everywhere. It was literally everywhere.

00:54:46.449 --> 00:54:48.269
You couldn't pinpoint where it was at. It was

00:54:48.269 --> 00:54:50.820
coming from everything that was alive, every

00:54:50.820 --> 00:54:53.840
tree, every leaf, the water, the wind, everything

00:54:53.840 --> 00:54:57.960
underneath me, above me, it was everywhere. And

00:54:57.960 --> 00:55:00.559
my mind, it's the first time in my life that

00:55:00.559 --> 00:55:03.280
I ever felt this, I felt like I had two brains.

00:55:03.739 --> 00:55:06.400
So I have one brain out in the cosmos with God,

00:55:06.739 --> 00:55:09.880
and the other one was here in this body. So I

00:55:09.880 --> 00:55:11.719
was literally in two places at one time, which

00:55:11.719 --> 00:55:16.039
is a very strange thing to describe. And all

00:55:16.039 --> 00:55:19.010
I remember was that I don't think anything. The

00:55:19.010 --> 00:55:21.889
brain has to stay still because the moment you

00:55:21.889 --> 00:55:24.869
start using your brain I could just feel it kind

00:55:24.869 --> 00:55:27.110
of fades away and I'm like, oh don't fade away

00:55:27.110 --> 00:55:29.329
I'll just I won't think anything. I promise you're

00:55:29.329 --> 00:55:32.170
just stillness I think it's a lot like like a

00:55:32.170 --> 00:55:35.730
lake of water when the lake goes still it becomes

00:55:35.730 --> 00:55:39.869
like a mirror and the mirror is what allows you

00:55:39.869 --> 00:55:43.110
to be able to see the heavens to be with God

00:55:43.110 --> 00:55:45.670
and a lot of things now granted to get to God

00:55:45.670 --> 00:55:48.820
to there there is a few issues because he's guarded

00:55:48.820 --> 00:55:51.400
so you first have that angel or whatever the

00:55:51.400 --> 00:55:54.360
being of light this council they don't just let

00:55:54.360 --> 00:55:57.179
you in there seems to be I know with me that

00:55:57.179 --> 00:55:58.820
they have to check my heart meaning they have

00:55:58.820 --> 00:56:01.719
to look at what my true intentions are what's

00:56:01.719 --> 00:56:04.599
inside of me who I am they don't just let you

00:56:04.599 --> 00:56:06.960
in and I don't know why but that's just the process

00:56:06.960 --> 00:56:11.440
and as I'm there I just turned my head over so

00:56:11.440 --> 00:56:14.440
slightly and my brother from extremely far away

00:56:14.440 --> 00:56:17.039
he turned his head to at the exact same time

00:56:17.699 --> 00:56:20.440
And I just raised my hand and I kind of waved

00:56:20.440 --> 00:56:23.239
at him to come over. And as he was walking to

00:56:23.239 --> 00:56:27.880
me, I could feel his thoughts. So it was really

00:56:27.880 --> 00:56:30.219
weird. I could feel people's thoughts and it

00:56:30.219 --> 00:56:32.280
disrupted my thoughts. So here I'm trying to

00:56:32.280 --> 00:56:34.719
be in stillness, but his thoughts were going

00:56:34.719 --> 00:56:37.739
to disrupt my mind. So the moment he arrived

00:56:37.739 --> 00:56:39.300
to me, I always remember telling him, I said,

00:56:39.579 --> 00:56:42.159
brother, if you want to learn something, now's

00:56:42.159 --> 00:56:45.900
the time. And if you don't, it's fine. I won't

00:56:45.900 --> 00:56:48.280
repeat myself. I'll let it go. and we can just

00:56:48.280 --> 00:56:50.480
go play in the river and have a wonderful day.

00:56:51.360 --> 00:56:53.539
And he said, my brother's a curious guy, very

00:56:53.539 --> 00:56:56.079
open -minded, so he was like, okay, yeah, sure,

00:56:56.360 --> 00:56:58.219
I wanna learn something. What's going on here?

00:56:58.340 --> 00:57:00.099
You've been sitting here for hours. I thought

00:57:00.099 --> 00:57:03.800
you were dead. All I said to him was, I want

00:57:03.800 --> 00:57:06.500
you to try to listen. That's all I want you to

00:57:06.500 --> 00:57:09.019
do, just listen. So he sat next to me on that

00:57:09.019 --> 00:57:11.400
rock and he was just trying to listen. And he

00:57:11.400 --> 00:57:13.179
must've been there for 20 to 30 minutes. I mean,

00:57:13.199 --> 00:57:16.019
he tried really hard. And he finally reached

00:57:16.019 --> 00:57:17.300
the point where he kind of looked and he's like,

00:57:17.300 --> 00:57:20.920
you know what? I don't know what's going on with

00:57:20.920 --> 00:57:22.980
you and everything seems kind of weird. I don't

00:57:22.980 --> 00:57:24.800
sitting on this rock and now you want me to listen

00:57:24.800 --> 00:57:27.199
to something, but I don't hear anything. So he

00:57:27.199 --> 00:57:29.659
was like, he gave up. He's like, you know what?

00:57:29.659 --> 00:57:31.380
I'm going to go play at the river. You do whatever

00:57:31.380 --> 00:57:34.699
you're to do. So he goes to stand up. And this

00:57:34.699 --> 00:57:36.739
is another thing about God that's very interesting.

00:57:37.099 --> 00:57:40.599
When you're connected to him, he's like the wind.

00:57:40.820 --> 00:57:43.940
He's unpredictable. It's just like. Flowing and

00:57:43.940 --> 00:57:46.000
then boom does this does that like whatever he

00:57:46.000 --> 00:57:47.780
wants to do Well the moment my brother went to

00:57:47.780 --> 00:57:49.960
stand up my arm just boom went out and grabbed

00:57:49.960 --> 00:57:51.739
him by the wrist really fast and really hard

00:57:51.739 --> 00:57:54.960
and I'm like Okay, what's going on? And I'm just

00:57:54.960 --> 00:57:56.420
observing everything remember. I don't want to

00:57:56.420 --> 00:57:58.619
think anything I'm just letting it happen and

00:57:58.619 --> 00:58:02.380
I start squeezing his wrist pretty hard and I

00:58:02.380 --> 00:58:04.599
start squeezing it really hard hard hard hard

00:58:04.599 --> 00:58:06.139
to the point where I thought I was gonna break

00:58:06.139 --> 00:58:08.619
his arm and I Felt like I had infinite strength

00:58:09.170 --> 00:58:11.789
I'm like what in the world is going on here right

00:58:11.789 --> 00:58:13.849
now? And then that's when he really turned and

00:58:13.849 --> 00:58:16.909
he looks straight into my eyes And I could feel

00:58:16.909 --> 00:58:19.130
like I could see right through him. I've never

00:58:19.130 --> 00:58:21.309
seen anything like that I could see right through

00:58:21.309 --> 00:58:23.750
him. I could see his soul. I could see everything

00:58:23.750 --> 00:58:27.329
When he when we made that connection in the eyes

00:58:27.329 --> 00:58:30.050
And he was about to tell me to stop he was like

00:58:30.050 --> 00:58:31.630
he was about to tell me he told me labor He's

00:58:31.630 --> 00:58:33.010
like I was about to tell you you're hurting me.

00:58:33.070 --> 00:58:37.070
You're about to hurt me. It wasn't me I felt

00:58:37.070 --> 00:58:39.070
almost bad that I did it and that it happened,

00:58:39.070 --> 00:58:42.269
but I did it I spoke with a very intense voice

00:58:42.269 --> 00:58:46.510
and I just said Can't you hear it because he

00:58:46.510 --> 00:58:48.489
was trying to listen for the sound and he just

00:58:48.489 --> 00:58:51.530
couldn't hear it in the moment. I said it Boom

00:58:51.530 --> 00:58:56.210
the sound just oh I got huge and my brother just

00:58:56.210 --> 00:58:59.889
froze because he heard it then and his vision

00:58:59.889 --> 00:59:04.340
went dark and he saw all his sin, he said. This

00:59:04.340 --> 00:59:05.940
is literally him saying this. He goes, I saw

00:59:05.940 --> 00:59:10.420
all my darkness, all my sin. He said, it terrified

00:59:10.420 --> 00:59:13.699
me. And I knew the prize was death. And he said

00:59:13.699 --> 00:59:15.800
that he literally tried to run. He went to go

00:59:15.800 --> 00:59:18.380
try to run his foot to get off the ground. And

00:59:18.380 --> 00:59:21.119
then God spoke. He barely spoke and he said,

00:59:21.639 --> 00:59:24.340
there is no place you can run to. There is no

00:59:24.340 --> 00:59:26.739
place you can hide. No rock you can't crawl under.

00:59:27.119 --> 00:59:30.039
And my brother just stood there. I knew that

00:59:30.039 --> 00:59:32.880
he was in utter panic. And he's just frozen.

00:59:33.440 --> 00:59:35.440
And then that's when I spoke to him. I said,

00:59:35.460 --> 00:59:38.320
brother, he's not going to hurt you. Don't be

00:59:38.320 --> 00:59:40.900
afraid. And my brother told me to this day, he

00:59:40.900 --> 00:59:43.880
said, I heard your voice and it felt like everything

00:59:43.880 --> 00:59:45.139
was just darkness. He goes, I didn't know where

00:59:45.139 --> 00:59:47.699
I was at anymore. He goes, I heard your voice

00:59:47.699 --> 00:59:50.780
say that. And he said, I turned and you were

00:59:50.780 --> 00:59:54.800
there. And I was trying to tell him not to be

00:59:54.800 --> 00:59:58.280
afraid because he was so afraid. That's when

00:59:58.280 --> 01:00:01.809
my brother said, what is it? See, he didn't recognize

01:00:01.809 --> 01:00:04.610
God either. So different than any idea we had.

01:00:04.849 --> 01:00:06.650
And I didn't even bother putting words to it

01:00:06.650 --> 01:00:10.030
because I didn't want to try to create an idea

01:00:10.030 --> 01:00:11.889
like, oh, this is this. Even the word God, I

01:00:11.889 --> 01:00:15.710
don't like it. But I just said, I don't know.

01:00:16.429 --> 01:00:18.949
I didn't want to put words to it. And then my

01:00:18.949 --> 01:00:22.989
brother just sat and calmed down because calmness

01:00:22.989 --> 01:00:25.449
fears. And it reminds me of another scriptural

01:00:25.449 --> 01:00:27.510
verse where these guys were before God and in

01:00:27.510 --> 01:00:30.110
the Bible it says, and they trembled before his

01:00:30.110 --> 01:00:32.949
might. That was my brother. He trembled before

01:00:32.949 --> 01:00:35.570
his might. And on top of it, I believe there's

01:00:35.570 --> 01:00:37.130
another verse that had to do with those guys

01:00:37.130 --> 01:00:38.769
that met God that literally told, I believe,

01:00:39.090 --> 01:00:41.670
Moses. They said, hey, Moses, we don't want to

01:00:41.670 --> 01:00:43.550
see God anymore. Can we just, we don't want to

01:00:43.550 --> 01:00:45.170
see him. Can you just go and find out what he

01:00:45.170 --> 01:00:47.989
wants and just tell us? That's how badly people

01:00:47.989 --> 01:00:49.389
didn't want to be before him because he sees

01:00:49.389 --> 01:00:51.809
right through you. And I know people may think,

01:00:52.010 --> 01:00:53.849
oh, I want to be before God. It can be all fun

01:00:53.849 --> 01:00:59.329
and games. It wasn't. It was very, very difficult

01:00:59.329 --> 01:01:01.809
to face the truth about yourself, because that's

01:01:01.809 --> 01:01:03.369
what he's going to show you. He's a light that

01:01:03.369 --> 01:01:05.909
you've never known, and he penetrates right through

01:01:05.909 --> 01:01:09.190
you. There is no hiding. There's no hiding when

01:01:09.190 --> 01:01:11.050
you're in front of him. And so people panic,

01:01:11.610 --> 01:01:14.210
just like my brother panicked. After he calmed

01:01:14.210 --> 01:01:19.039
down, we're both sitting there. Didn't want to

01:01:19.039 --> 01:01:21.699
say anything about what I saw or hearing I wanted

01:01:21.699 --> 01:01:24.639
my brother to say as a confirmation because I'm

01:01:24.639 --> 01:01:26.599
such a doubter I'm like is this even happening,

01:01:26.639 --> 01:01:29.980
but I'm just letting it all happen. I told my

01:01:29.980 --> 01:01:32.960
brother I'm like, so do you hear it and my brother

01:01:32.960 --> 01:01:36.480
said oh, yeah, I hear it and I said what does

01:01:36.480 --> 01:01:38.360
it sound like and he started trying to mimic

01:01:38.360 --> 01:01:43.320
the sound is like Like he was trying to really

01:01:43.320 --> 01:01:46.019
mimic the sound and he's pretty good at that

01:01:46.280 --> 01:01:48.019
And I was like, yeah, that's right. And he would

01:01:48.019 --> 01:01:50.320
follow the rhythm of the sound. So as he's mimicking

01:01:50.320 --> 01:01:51.900
it, he's following the rhythm because the sound

01:01:51.900 --> 01:01:53.860
is with us at this point. God is with us. So

01:01:53.860 --> 01:01:56.900
he's mimicking it. And I'm like, OK, I know he's

01:01:56.900 --> 01:01:59.599
hearing it and I'm hearing it too. And then he's

01:01:59.599 --> 01:02:02.159
given us visions. Both of us were sitting right

01:02:02.159 --> 01:02:03.980
there. And then all of a sudden I can see things.

01:02:04.039 --> 01:02:05.980
I'm looking at my brother like, do you see what

01:02:05.980 --> 01:02:08.659
I'm seeing? Because I don't want to say it. I

01:02:08.659 --> 01:02:11.219
want you to say to confirm what I'm seeing. And

01:02:11.219 --> 01:02:14.170
my brother's like, yeah, I see mountains. And

01:02:14.170 --> 01:02:16.829
this is another part where God spoke again. There

01:02:16.829 --> 01:02:19.210
was three mountains. And in those mountains,

01:02:19.250 --> 01:02:21.969
you could see the face of like, it looked like

01:02:21.969 --> 01:02:23.949
old wise men with white beards. The snow was

01:02:23.949 --> 01:02:25.590
the white beards. It was really kind of odd.

01:02:26.190 --> 01:02:28.949
And God spoke and he said, this is where I reside.

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And I thought it was really weird because I logically,

01:02:31.949 --> 01:02:34.389
I'm like, you reside at the mountains? I don't

01:02:34.389 --> 01:02:35.989
get it. Like, if I were to climb a mountain,

01:02:36.030 --> 01:02:38.809
I don't think you'd be there. I was very confused.

01:02:38.989 --> 01:02:41.869
I'm just trying to say what I witnessed. And

01:02:41.869 --> 01:02:45.380
so he said, this is where I reside. and that's

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what he said and he showed us these mountains

01:02:46.719 --> 01:02:48.659
and I'm just asking my brother if he's seen the

01:02:48.659 --> 01:02:51.119
same thing and he said yeah like we're all this

01:02:51.119 --> 01:02:52.880
whole thing is happening to the both of us at

01:02:52.880 --> 01:02:55.880
this point because somehow we're connected and

01:02:55.880 --> 01:03:00.000
then after all that we just sat there with him

01:03:00.000 --> 01:03:02.820
like again you're just being with him and oh

01:03:02.820 --> 01:03:05.400
I remember this was kind of funny actually my

01:03:05.400 --> 01:03:08.199
brother's like listening to the Almighty and

01:03:08.199 --> 01:03:10.260
he's looking around and he kind of looks at me

01:03:10.260 --> 01:03:13.039
and he's like brother where is it coming from?

01:03:13.289 --> 01:03:15.750
He said, I can't tell where it's coming from.

01:03:15.789 --> 01:03:18.429
It's coming from everything. It's like omnipotent.

01:03:18.530 --> 01:03:21.289
It's coming from every single, from every little

01:03:21.289 --> 01:03:24.010
bug to a big tree. And he's looking around and

01:03:24.010 --> 01:03:25.949
he's like, I don't get it. And he looks at me

01:03:25.949 --> 01:03:28.849
and he goes, I don't get it. Where is this sound

01:03:28.849 --> 01:03:32.530
coming from? And then, again, God takes over

01:03:32.530 --> 01:03:34.309
my body because he keeps doing these things.

01:03:34.769 --> 01:03:37.190
And I just look at my brother and I lean my head

01:03:37.190 --> 01:03:41.860
back and I open my mouth. Really big? the sound

01:03:41.860 --> 01:03:45.320
just gets really loud and my brother's looking

01:03:45.320 --> 01:03:48.699
at me and he's like oh my god it's coming from

01:03:48.699 --> 01:03:52.880
inside of you it was as if when you connect to

01:03:52.880 --> 01:03:56.420
him within it connects you to everything that's

01:03:56.420 --> 01:03:58.940
alive everything that's of him once you find

01:03:58.940 --> 01:04:02.659
them inside you find them outside you don't feel

01:04:02.659 --> 01:04:08.760
empty anymore you feel yeah there's no more emptiness

01:04:09.239 --> 01:04:12.760
It was just weird. And so this happened. We just

01:04:12.760 --> 01:04:14.860
spent time with him for quite a while. And then

01:04:14.860 --> 01:04:18.059
eventually my brother, so with his voice, with

01:04:18.059 --> 01:04:20.960
the sound of God, comes like a consciousness.

01:04:21.199 --> 01:04:24.900
It's very strange. It's hard to describe. But

01:04:24.900 --> 01:04:26.880
again, it's like a river. It's like a wind. It's

01:04:26.880 --> 01:04:28.559
like I can't describe because he just comes and

01:04:28.559 --> 01:04:30.380
goes and does whatever he wants. You know, it's

01:04:30.380 --> 01:04:32.739
just like hard to describe how this all happens.

01:04:33.659 --> 01:04:36.500
And then my brother was like, I don't know why,

01:04:36.500 --> 01:04:40.269
but I feel like I can fly. I feel like I can

01:04:40.269 --> 01:04:42.909
ascend with the sound. The sound is doing something

01:04:42.909 --> 01:04:46.690
to us. I could feel it too. He's like, let's

01:04:46.690 --> 01:04:49.989
fly. So we sit down back to back on the rock

01:04:49.989 --> 01:04:52.809
and kind of go into a meditative state. We just

01:04:52.809 --> 01:04:55.190
close our eyes and we just sat there. But my

01:04:55.190 --> 01:04:57.949
brother's mind was so busy. I could feel his

01:04:57.949 --> 01:04:59.829
mind so busy and it was keeping us from being

01:04:59.829 --> 01:05:04.590
able to ascend. No peace. And so he's doing this

01:05:04.590 --> 01:05:06.769
and he must have tried for about maybe again

01:05:06.769 --> 01:05:08.610
another 20 -30 minutes and he finally stopped

01:05:08.610 --> 01:05:10.769
and he's like, dude, I just can't. He goes, I

01:05:10.769 --> 01:05:13.210
can't seem to take off and yet I feel like I

01:05:13.210 --> 01:05:16.309
can with his voice and his presence. It almost

01:05:16.309 --> 01:05:19.409
draws you to him. And so my brother finally gave

01:05:19.409 --> 01:05:22.449
up. We sat there longer, just enjoyed just being

01:05:22.449 --> 01:05:26.050
there with him in absolute awe. And then after

01:05:26.050 --> 01:05:28.840
that we eventually went and... We did in the

01:05:28.840 --> 01:05:30.719
plane in the river I actually have ironically

01:05:30.719 --> 01:05:32.659
he has a little bit of video footage of that

01:05:32.659 --> 01:05:36.139
day of us being at the river and swimming and

01:05:36.139 --> 01:05:38.559
I remember really getting connected to nature

01:05:38.559 --> 01:05:40.519
in a way that I never had and I was swimming

01:05:40.519 --> 01:05:43.239
with the fish moving just like the fish are and

01:05:43.239 --> 01:05:45.179
The fish was a huge part of it. There's something

01:05:45.179 --> 01:05:46.800
about the way that they moved They moved like

01:05:46.800 --> 01:05:50.059
in a frequency like a rhythm and I was just enjoying

01:05:50.059 --> 01:05:53.400
it and I got in that water and did what I kind

01:05:53.400 --> 01:05:55.940
of felt like was my own little baptism there

01:05:55.940 --> 01:05:58.739
you know right in the river that day and I've

01:05:58.739 --> 01:06:01.340
never been the same since and he has been with

01:06:01.340 --> 01:06:04.119
me ever since then he has shown me a lot of things

01:06:04.119 --> 01:06:06.559
it's been a really rough road but because I eventually

01:06:06.559 --> 01:06:08.840
was really odd I had already had a lot of medical

01:06:08.840 --> 01:06:11.980
issues even on that day and they got a lot worse

01:06:11.980 --> 01:06:15.139
in time and he just gives me massive amounts

01:06:15.139 --> 01:06:17.269
of information All the time and I don't even

01:06:17.269 --> 01:06:19.070
write them down. They're all in my heart I don't

01:06:19.070 --> 01:06:21.670
even know people who know me very few who i've

01:06:21.670 --> 01:06:24.170
shared this with Including my brother says things

01:06:24.170 --> 01:06:25.730
like I don't know how you remember any of this

01:06:25.730 --> 01:06:27.070
stuff And I said, well, I don't really have it

01:06:27.070 --> 01:06:30.949
memorized. I I know it by heart part of you So

01:06:30.949 --> 01:06:33.889
that day on the river you got that confirmation

01:06:33.889 --> 01:06:37.210
that I alluded to earlier Through your brother

01:06:37.210 --> 01:06:43.599
was the confirmation best day ever Yeah I had

01:06:43.599 --> 01:06:45.920
about 50 questions I wanted to get to, and I

01:06:45.920 --> 01:06:48.139
know you don't have time. I'd love to circle

01:06:48.139 --> 01:06:51.000
back sometime and do them. Yeah, we can do a

01:06:51.000 --> 01:06:52.820
part two, and there's only one last thing I'll

01:06:52.820 --> 01:06:55.440
say about this before we go. When I was before

01:06:55.440 --> 01:06:58.539
His presence, I literally felt all the doubt

01:06:58.539 --> 01:07:00.059
that was in my body, which I didn't even know

01:07:00.059 --> 01:07:03.639
I had, even down to the depth of my bones, all

01:07:03.639 --> 01:07:05.829
my doubt went away. I've never doubted anymore.

01:07:05.869 --> 01:07:07.909
I know he's real. I've seen him. I've met him.

01:07:08.130 --> 01:07:09.929
I know he's real. I know he's waiting for us.

01:07:10.010 --> 01:07:11.949
I know that there's a there's a path. I know

01:07:11.949 --> 01:07:14.510
there's a plan and he's definitely real. It's

01:07:14.510 --> 01:07:16.449
just a matter of people's beliefs and everybody

01:07:16.449 --> 01:07:17.969
has their beliefs, you know, whether it's religious

01:07:17.969 --> 01:07:20.190
beliefs, political beliefs, everybody has their

01:07:20.190 --> 01:07:22.369
beliefs, but I do think he's very different than

01:07:22.369 --> 01:07:25.800
the majority of what people even believe. There

01:07:25.800 --> 01:07:29.019
was so much to Greg's NDE that I barely had time

01:07:29.019 --> 01:07:32.099
to ask any questions. So we're bringing him back

01:07:32.099 --> 01:07:35.079
for a part two where we dive even deeper into

01:07:35.079 --> 01:07:37.639
his experience through a question and answer

01:07:37.639 --> 01:07:40.750
session. I hope you'll join us then, but for

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