From the time that they pronounced me dead was
a good 45 minutes. They cut my clothes and then
they paddled my heart, my heart had stopped and
I could see people screaming and crying but I
didn't realize that was actually my physical
body because I was somewhere else. The only thing
that I could feel if you could imagine absolute
love and peace, there wasn't anything else to
be felt. I was greeted by people I'd known in
the past. I'm back home again. Incredibly safe
and felt at home. Welcome, welcome to Round Trip
Death, everybody. And we're going to have fun
today. We're going all the way down to Brisbane,
Australia. Did I say that okay, Linda? Well,
it's fine. Thank you so much. We are meeting
with Dr. Linda Kramer. Thank you for coming to
us. We figured out how to do the whole time change
thing. what we haven't figured out yet is it's
spring almost summer where I am which means it's
fall almost winter where you are. That's right
we're getting the chilly mornings here now I
tell you it's it's frosts and fog here at the
moment so you know to have your perspective on
the other side of the planet that's amazing.
And I just can't tell you enough how much I am
so honored to be here today, Eric. It is amazing
to talk with you. So thank you so much for considering
me as one of your guests today. Wow. You are
way too sweet and way too nice. Thank you. Do
you want me to call you Linda or Dr. Linda? You
can just call me Linda. I don't actually care
for titles. you know anything else with me you
hey you you can just call me your highness while
you're at it as you know we start the show with
we want to get to know you for just a minute
tell us a little bit about linda and then we're
going to jump right into your nde because we
need all the time we can because it is spectacular
go ahead so i was born in the mid 60s and my
dad was in the RAAF, which is the Air Force.
So my upbringing with my two sisters, my mum
and my dad, we traveled around a lot. So I ended
up going to nine different schools. Even with
that change of environment every year or two
growing up, I always knew that I was something
different. I just did not fit in. I always have
been a psychic since birth. Just knowing things
that other people wouldn't know, just blurring
it out as a child does got me into a lot of trouble
with family, friends, schools. So I was often
called the freak. I got abused a lot, sworn at
a lot. I just didn't fit in. So it was probably
a good thing that we did move around a lot because
it was a new clientele of people learning who
Linda was. I ended up in a relationship. my first
marriage because I've been with three different
partners. He used to call me the witch and I
just thought haha yeah yeah you know party trick
time at you know going to parties telling people
they're fortune that sort of thing but I never
really got into what was spiritualism or being
a psychic. I just you know I was a manager for
Australia Post our postal service. I had other
jobs growing up that I did so I was more concerned
with this environment, the governance. I was
more concerned with having the conditioned lifestyle
that we have in society of getting married, having
a job, getting a house, having children, pets,
and doing things in the community. So that marriage
broke up and I ended up going over to America,
to North Carolina, where I met my, well, I already
did know him because he worked where I used to
work. We got married in August 2020 and it wasn't
the best relationship. He had a lot of personal
issues himself. I came into that relationship
hoping to assimilate into the US. I honestly
loved America. I wanted to live there. I wanted
to be a permanent resident or a citizen. I was
applying for jobs left, right and center, but
obviously without a green card, I couldn't work
over there. So we had a lot of issues. He did
not want to do my immigration paperwork, which
was a major red flag for me. So there was a lot
of, I would call domestic abuse there, which
escalated in May, 2021. I prefer not to talk
about what he did to me, where I prefer to talk
about what happened as a consequence of what
he did to me. So on the night of May 6, I was
really not well. It was like an asthma attack
flu type thing that I had. I woke up at about
two in the morning and I couldn't breathe. Honest,
I was busting to go to the toilet, literally
dying to go to the toilet, which is ironic because
what happened? I laugh about it. That's like
people dying to get on this show. Sorry, keep
going. Are you going to laugh with it? Because
I do laugh at it because even though it was such
a traumatic event, it turned out to be the best
event of my ever life. Whoever knew dying was
going to be the best thing that ever happened
to me, right? So I went to the toilet and I'm
sitting on the toilet and the scariest part in
hindsight was the fact that I just went to sleep.
It was just like any other normal event, drifting
and falling asleep. So the next thing I know
is that I'm floating in the living room up near
the ceiling in the corner. There's a little bit
of a backstory here between me dying and being
instantly in the living room. I like putting
this part in because my ex -husband, he said
that he woke up because he heard someone banging
on the wall and he came in and found me. already
blue and he went and called an ambulance. I know
for a fact I never banged on the wall because
I had absolutely no energy at all because it
took me 10 minutes to walk 10 feet to the bathroom.
So I'm now floating in the living room and I
watched Higg walk through the living room. and
it was two paramedics standing at the door. He's
rushed them back through into the bedroom, which
the bathroom was off the bedroom. So that's where
my body was out the back in the back bedroom
and the back bathroom. I'm in the living room
and I saw the sheriff come in. He had a button
that was missing on his shirt. He had a little
pudgy belly that was sticking out through his
shirt and he also was limping. He had a limp
on his left foot. I saw his coffee mug that he
used. He had a notepad that he was writing things
in and I'm like, oh yeah, I can see what he's
writing there. I heard the whole conversations
with the fire department even turned up. Some
other people turned up with other uniforms on
that I never knew because I'm from Australia,
I don't know the uniforms. Then two more paramedics
turned up which in my medical files, turned out
to be my advanced life support crew. So the advanced
crew turned up and they came through with a defibrillator,
all this other equipment that I just watched
going through. So people like asking me, how
did I feel when I saw all this commotion going
on in my house? And I'm honest, it didn't matter
to me. I didn't care about it. I wasn't concerned.
I wasn't scared. I was just allowing it all to
unfold in front of me like I was watching a movie
because it was pretty obvious that Linda, the
body in the bathroom, was not me anymore. So
when they finally wheeled her out, it wasn't
me. I was watching her like a movie with no connection
to that body at all. They wheeled out my body.
I watched as my ex -husband now, because I broke
up with him after this event and I came back
to Australia, he locked the door and he left.
He turned off the lights. But there I am still
floating near the ceiling with not a concern
in the world. I didn't even worry about how did
I get up here? Why don't I fall down? There was
no gravity. But then the front door opened. One
of the weird things that happened before I even
went to heaven. and all these orbs, blue, dark
blue, like royal blue orbs came into the room.
There would have been 12 or 15 of these orbs
floating around me and inside them was pure white
energy and then they went to blue and then they
had like sparkle effects coming out of them,
which was energy and they're floating around
me. Some stopped in front of me, but they had
no eyes. So I don't know if they were observing
me or interacting with me at all because I had
no interaction with these. There was no communication
at all. So they're like floating around me and
they didn't hit each other so they could obviously
interact with each other and communicate together.
But then they all just went out the front door
and it was like they stopped and all of them
instantly went out the door. I want a little
more description before you move on. These orbs,
so they were actually round like a ball? That's
right. Yes. Because I've had some people describe
to me blue figures that they didn't know quite,
are these angels or these ancestries? What are
these? But yours are round. That's interesting.
Can we go into a sidestep? I now see spirit guides.
One time when I was interviewing with this man,
He was at my house, he had a pterodactyl that
flew in, 80 foot pterodactyl in my backyard.
I actually went over, he was like, what are you
doing woman? I was under this pterodactyl feeling
its wings and it was like a bat wing, very similar
to a bat. When he left, this pterodactyl shot
off across the sky and it turned into a blue
streak. the same blue color that I saw in my
orbs, which I'm also going to presume here that
you just mentioned when people see these blue
beings as well. So this blue energy of what I
see as spirit guides and what other people see,
and also what I saw as these orbs in my own house,
because I do have pictures. There's a map of
where I was in the house. So that's where I was
floating and this is where my body was around
in the back bedroom So by the way for those that
are listening to the audio only version of the
podcast Can you explain about how far that away?
Yep. So when you come through the bedroom living
room Yep, you come through the living room. There's
the front door you walk through the living room,
which was probably 15 feet and then you have
to go into the master bedroom walk down to the
back wall, walk past a walk -along closet, and
then you walk up into a bathroom behind the walk
-in closet. So all up, it would have been about
50 feet to where I was when my body was to where
I was floating. But then when I saw these blue
orbs, here's a picture that I drew in hospital
of what they look like. which is these are all
in my book. If you do want a PDF of my book,
please email me because I like giving out my
books for free to people as well as people who
buy them. We'll stick that in the show notes.
I guess I assumed that the orbs would be very
smooth on the outside, but what you're showing
has a little like feelers or something coming
out. Do you know what party sparklers are those
long? Sure. and you light the end and they all
go sparkle, sparkle. And we call them here in
Australia, we call them sparklers and you wave
them around and they make zigzags in the air
and stuff. So that sparkle effect is what these
had come in out of them. Sounds beautiful. Well,
wait until we get to heaven because I saw it
again there as well. OK, I'm sorry. I'm holding
you back from the heaven part. Yeah. By the way,
we could title this episode five years in heaven.
Thank you, because that's actually what my book's
called. All right. One other quick thing before
I let you move on and that is that I find it
interesting that your spirit didn't follow the
ambulance. A lot of people go with the ambulance
and they're sort of watching their body the whole
time and you stayed behind and then you took
off and ended up where? I found myself, which
I joke about, in the field of flowers. I've said
it many times it's almost like there's an X on
the ground and it's like the landing port where
people find themselves standing in that field
of flowers in heaven. So I'm looking around and
down below me there's flowers growing and as
I walked even though in I was energy with no
body these flowers moved because they knew my
thoughts. So the flowers moved knowing that I
thought I would squash them as I walked. So they
moved out of the way? Yeah, the flowers physically
moved. So yeah, the flowers physically moved
to avoid my feet coming down on top of them.
That was a very pivotal moment right there before
we go into five years of being in heaven. because
I learned straight away there about perspective
and how our thoughts all do integrate into one
consciousness. It also showed me that energy
waves like frequencies and currencies do be affected
by other things around them. These flowers moved
as I tried to walk, but then I realized, I don't
squash the flowers because I now was also receiving
the information from the flowers where they knew
that I was ignorant at this point because I hadn't
learned that I would not squash them because
I was energy. So we had a two -way telepathic
communication going and it was a knowing of what
each of us were both thinking. But it wasn't
just one flower. It was 50 ,000 flowers in this
field. So the role in Flea Fields went up into,
far in the distance was mountain ranges. Over
to my left, way, way over was a big city with
huge skyscrapers. I could see behind me without
turning my head. So I had this all 360 degree
peripheral. where I did not have to turn my head
to know everything that was going on around me.
I stayed in this place for probably 18 months
of my five years in heaven. I walked down cobbled
roads into little villages, which makes me wonder,
why do we have houses when we don't have to cook
or sleep or use a bathroom? I walked into the
cities and I was walking up the stairs of the
cities. but there was no elevators or other technology
there. Then I realized I didn't even need to
use the stairs like the mountains. If I wanted
to climb to the top of a mountain or if I wanted
to go to the top floor of one of these buildings,
all I had to do was think it and I was there.
I live by little catchphrases now, Eric. One
of my catchphrases is, we think, we create. And
now in my existence of thinking of creation,
look how much now other people are saying the
same sort of things where we create our own reality.
The more we think about being sick, the more
sicker we get. The more we think about manifestation,
the more we do manifest things. So in this existence
of seeing thousands and thousands of people,
I realized perspective as well. whereby I can
become the other objects or beings around me
and I could see everything that they had gone
through as well. In my book, Five Years in Heaven,
I do talk about the ducks. I was sitting there
on a chair because there was heaps of chairs
in heaven. One of my videos on my YouTube channel,
it actually says, why are there chairs in heaven?
It's because we do pause. and we contemplate
and we get that perspective of what other things
have been. I'm sitting on this chair and I'm
watching this group of ducks and I became one
of the ducks. I felt the feathers, I felt the
webbed feet. I've had a beak that went quack
when I made a noise and then I learnt or I should
say knew. everything this duck had ever been
through with all its lives and other bands that
it had ever been. When I say it like that, we're
not always one person. So when we reincarnate,
next time we can become a bear. The life after
that we may be Anne Boleyn married to Henry VIII
in the UK. The life after that we might be Buzz
Aldrin going to the moon. The life after that,
we could be a cat growing up in India. There's
no time, there's no space in this existence.
Everything was concurrent and here, present.
So when I talk about the mountains being miles
and miles and miles away, hundreds and hundreds
of miles away, all I had to do was think of being
there and instantly I was at the bottom of the
mountain range. If I thought to have been on
the top of the mountain, instantly I was on top
of the mountains. As soon as I thought about
people there, I became them and I saw and knew
everything they had been through, through that
oneness of heaven. Everything is like a cell.
Everything is like a drop of water in the ocean
where it all becomes one. I'm in this place.
interacting with thousands of people, I saw a
medieval woman instantly turn into a 1970s hippie.
I saw little boys playing on the fields and instantly
one turned into a bear because we can change
who and what we are through that mentality of
what we think we create. So we change our lives
in heaven. I know being Linda, that's just not
the end of being Linda. I could go back to having
the perfect skin I had as a baby. I could have
the long blonde hair I had when I was 25. I could
have the waistline that I had when I was 17,
but I could still have the nails and the knowledge
that I had when I was 55. So even though when
we say, oh yeah, she's back to Linda. we can
still pick and choose bits of Linda that we create
to be. And then we can become the duck, we can
become the medieval woman, we could become the
buildings, the mountains, everything there. And
one thing I haven't mentioned is the music. It
was constant overlaying itself with no speakers.
So there's no source of this noise, but it was
from everything. I finally worked it out. It
was the sound of energy, that relaying tribal
chant -like noise of vibrational energy. Just
a couple of months ago, funny thing, I found
this report where a man said we can hear energy.
So that verified what happened to me 24 years
ago. Wow, I love it when I get my confirmation.
So I'm standing in this space and I get a tap
on my shoulder. I'm now finding myself at the
front of this huge church cathedral type building.
As I walk in, we're talking a corridor probably
a mile long, but the walls were made of pieces
of wood that would have been a mile long. The
planks were, not just like our two by fours that
we have here on this planet, the planks of woods
would have been six foot wide, 20 foot wide pieces
of wood. The sandstone were blocks that were
half a mile wide. It was enormous, this space.
As I'm walking down through the long pews of
chairs made from one piece of wood, right down
at the front of the church, there were three
beings down there. And I use them three beings
as my book cover on my book, Five Years in Heaven.
So there's three beings, which probably it'd
be better if I show you this picture. So if anyone
does want to see my pictures, I do have them
on my YouTube channel where I talk about what
I see. These beings were energy. The energy went
from the ground upwards, like a reverse waterfall,
and it all circulated going left and right at
the same time, clockwise and anti -clockwise.
And it made like a vortex of energy where the
head would have been. And in front of these three
beings was this box, again, with this illumination
of energy coming out of it. So I'm standing there
thinking, oh my gosh, who are these people? But
there was no fear. There was no concern. It was
all peaceful. I heard inside my head the words,
we are not here to judge. And I knew, like a
psychic knows things, that this was from them.
I don't know which one it was, but it was from
them. And then I knew. that I had to look into
this box and heal all of my memories. So as I
look into this box, there was no sides. There
was no floor and no walls in this box. As I looked
down into it, it was eternal. And inside were
all these little round orbs of energy. and inside
each one of them was a little video screen with
a memory inside it and there were millions of
these little energy balls and I knew I had to
pick one out so I'm looking and I'm deciding
because I had a thought I could think in this
place which one will I pick out and the first
couple that I picked out was one that I dealt
with as a child I don't actually have a memory
of this But when I picked up this memory of me
being like six months old, 18 months old, I remembered
it. I relived this memory and it was involving
a white cat that belonged to my grandmother.
So now I became the memory. I'm in the front
yard of my grandmother's house, sitting on the
front yard and her cat is there, white cat. and
I pulled its tail. Instantly, I knew that it
was wrong. So obviously, I've done this before
and I got into trouble for it. I knew it was
wrong and I'm having this little giggle like
an 18 -month -old baby does. Then I had to judge
myself because nobody else judges us. We judge
ourselves. I had to judge myself. Why did I pull
that cat's tail when I knew it was wrong? I had
to go through all those reasons, all those memories
of that experience. But then I had to become
the cat to see that perspective of the other
side. I'm the white cat slinking along the grass
and I can feel my whiskers, I can sense, I'm
sensing for little bugs in the grass. and then
there's this baby sitting there, a humanoid baby,
and it pulls my tail. Instant horrendous pain
running up my tail, going straight up my spine,
and I let out this ah of a hiss of a cat, and
then I had to judge myself as this cat. Why did
I do what I did as a consequence of what the
baby did? So this is how we learn perspective.
And this is how we also learn how to heal the
actions we've done that have affected others.
Yeah, this is like a life review in a way. This
was my life review. Did you eventually take all
of those things out of the box and review all
these things in your life or just a few? I went
through probably 8 ,000 of those memories. A
whole bunch of them. Funny thing because we cry
a lot because it's tenfold like the Bible says,
all my emotions were tenfold. If I smiled at
a person walking down the street and when I became
that person and I look at this Linda who smiled
at me, that gratitude is tenfold and you're crying
uncontrollably because the energy just pours
out of you. But as we heal and as we process
the things that we've done, all that water just
disappears. I have spoken about the water in
heaven a few times in my videos as well on my
own YouTube channel because I break things down
when I try and talk about specific parts because
there was so much of it to talk about. When we
do bad things, oh my gosh, we feel it tenfold.
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guest. As a teenager, I punched a girl at school,
which I'm not proud of now. So I go through that
absolute agonizing feeling. Why did I punch that
girl at school? Which, you know, we all have
that sort of thing when we're a child. And then
I became the other girl to see her perspective.
And that's how we learn to forgive. And that's
how we learn to heal our emotions. Because our
emotions are energy. It's when we have emotions
that go up and down like a currency wave. Then
when we heal and when we become peace, that wave
becomes that flat line of energy. We don't have
any down, which is what we call negative emotions.
We don't have any ups, which is our positive
emotions. It's a constant state of peace, is
what I understood. As I said, I'd went through
about 8 ,000 of my memories. Wow, that's a lot.
I think I was there for about 18 months, all
up, because it would have taken about half an
hour to 45 minutes per memory. Some of the memories,
they were pretty bad ones, so they take about
a couple of hours to really psychoanalyze, why
did you do that for? And then I find myself in
this white space. So if I look at a piece of
paper, a white piece of paper, And you imagine
this is white space. There's no floor. There's
no walls. There's no ceiling. This is where I
found myself. Oh, actually, I'll just show you
that picture for anyone who can see. There's
a picture of me holding one of my memories. A
little video screen in the orb for anyone who
does see this. But so now I find myself in this
white space. So just to clarify, I floated for
45 minutes in the house. which was verified in
Earth time. Then I went to heaven for about 18
months. Then I went to my life review for about
18 months. So not of Earth time, obviously. No.
I base it on distances. You know, I walk about
three miles an hour. So when I look at these
huge buildings like a hundred miles away and
I calculate, okay, if I walk three miles an hour,
because I'm watching the trees go past me and
the houses and other things. From the time that
I left until I get to there, that's 100 miles.
If I'm walking three miles an hour, that would
take me X amount of hours to get there if you
do the math. That's why I estimate about 18 months.
But then when I've entered into my life review,
which was about another 18 months, I estimate
about 45 minutes per memory, and I went through
thousands and thousands, probably six to 12 ,000
memories. So I just estimate 8 ,000 because I
wasn't counting, but there was a heck of a lot.
I was there for an extremely long time. So when
I entered into the white space, I estimate that
I was here for about another 18 months because
of what I was told by my great, great Great,
great grandmother. She was standing in this space
and she was way off the side and she only appeared
as a little like half an inch big. But as she
walked towards me, because there was no floor
in this space, she got bigger and she came towards
me and she came up to me and she was quite angry
and she said, why are you here for? And she went,
oh, you're not supposed to be here. and I said
to her, I don't know where I am, so how do I
get back to where I was because I don't know
how I got here? This is the first time in years
where someone's showing me any sort of negative
emotion. She sort of settles herself down, she's
patting down a dress and she says, my name is
Karina and I am your great, great, great, great
grandmother. and I'm like sitting there, my chin's
on the floor, thinking, what? And she says, I've
got to tell you who I am first. So she went into
great detail for months all about herself. She
told me where she lived in the early 1800s. She
told me about all her relatives, how to make
an axe out of a tree, how to meld metal. into
an axe head. She showed me devices that they
use to make washing machines, how to make clothes
when there was no needles. This went on for an
extremely long time. How I break this down is,
if we talk to someone for an hour on the phone,
and then after that hour, we sit there and we
think about what was said. These conversations
with Karina went for thousands. and thousands
of hours. But then she started talking about
me. She said to me things like, you must go back
to the land where you're from because you will
be rounded up and sent home if you stay. She
said, the event that is in your September where
everyone from around the world will be watching
and dust will cover all those affected. Everyone
will appear gray. Now, I had no idea at that
point that she was talking about 9 -11 because
I died in May 2001. So she was telling me that
I had to go back to Australia. She told me to
leave before September. September 2001 was 9
-11. So she gave me pretty detailed evidence
about that event. She told me about earthquakes.
She told me about the tsunami in Indonesia that
would kill hundreds of thousands of people. She
told me about the volcano in Hawaii where three,
she actually said three moles of land will be
created and you will watch it from afar. I watched
that volcano on YouTube every day while it was
erupting in Hawaii. So she was true that she
said to me, you must remember your child is important
to us. So never forget this date. And I'm thinking.
Should I have a pen and paper in this place?
Because there's so much she's given me. So she
told me a date in 2005 and she said, don't ever
forget this date because that's the date you
conceive your daughter. Did you have any kids
at that point? I did have one daughter who lives
with my first husband. So she was telling me
about a future child four years in the future
that I was going to have. Which, by the way,
I did remember the date and we did consummate.
And now I do have my daughter who is now nearly
19 years old because she was born in 2006. I've
got my daughter. She told me that I would be
working for the police for 10 years. She said,
when you return to Australia, you will be getting
a job with the great force of Queensland, which
is the police force. She said to me, you must
go through this 10 years because of the lessons
that you are going to learn whilst there. I was
with the Queensland Police Service from 2002
until 2012, 10 years, just like she said. And
I did learn a lot of lessons during that time
because a lot of criminals only act out because
of the situation in their lives. So again, we
learn in about perspective. and how bad things
do happen to good people. So I've got a few friends
now that were criminals because I understand
their situation at that time where they didn't
have anything else other that they could do instead
of what they did. So I see the perspective of
what people go through. She told me that I would
be a first aid trainer for two years, which I
was January 15 until January 17. I was a first
aid trainer, teaching people about first aid,
teaching people how to heal themselves. Because
then she said, that's when you will start to
heal yourself. So isn't it funny, in 2017, I
was diagnosed with a brain tumor, which I don't
have anymore because I healed it. 2019, I was
diagnosed with throat cancer. I had an inch lump
here in my throat. I do not have that anymore,
even though I've got all the scans, all the x
-rays, all the MRIs to prove I had these injuries.
She said to me, you will go through all of this
in 20 years when you start telling people about
it, you have the integrity and credibility of
being able to help others. So she told me about
COVID, she told me about the vaccinations, and
then she told me all about healing those who
go through trauma. I believe that I went through
a lot of trauma myself, so then I can help other
people go through theirs as well. How do we get
out of addictions unless somebody actually has
gone through addictions and gotten out of that
well or that pit of depression to help others?
So that's my journey now. I went out and got
my PhD. I've done heaps of qualifications. So
I can help others to not only become the best
version of themselves, but we can also learn
to heal ourselves without basing our opinions
on what pharmaceutical companies and healthcare
professionals tell us. She said, you've got to
go back. And I said to her, how do I go back
if I don't know where I am? And she said, have
you learned nothing? All you have to do is think
about it and you create it. So as I started thinking
about my house, the room where I slept, the bathroom
where I passed away, instantly I hear this woman
say, squeeze my hand if you can hear me, Linda.
Squeeze my hand. And I'm confused because I've
got my eyes shut because for five years I didn't
have to close my eyes or blink. And I've got
this blood pressure cup on my arm squeezing and
it's hurting. And I think, ow, what's this? So
as I open my eyes and there's all these nurses
looking at me, oh, she's here, she's awake, she's
awake. I find myself in ICU at the Cabarrus County
Hospital, which is now called the Atrium in Concord.
So you can Google that hospital because that's
where I was. It was a very, very interesting
few weeks recovering because my psychic abilities
were absolutely perfect. I was seeing ghosts,
I was knowing things, telling nurses stories
about their animals and she said, how did you
know that? Nurses were coming in and I just know
their car registration numbers, where I've been
in a ICU ward for a few weeks. How would I know
that sort of thing? When I got home, I discovered
that I knew what was on TV before turning the
TV on. I knew when the phone was going to ring,
which I still do now. I pick up my phone like
three seconds before it rings. I know what songs
are on the radio. Trees talk to me. Clothing
talks to me. Cars tell me where they've got holes
in their muffler, that they need oil, and to
fix upholstery on their driver's side, that passenger
seat. everything now talks to me. Some days I
get a bit inundated, but I've learned now over
the past 20 years how to control that chaos of
energy that we do create. So I started a YouTube
channel. I've written books. I've got four books
out there now. I try my best to help others who
are struggling. I try my best to educate that
sometimes in life, We don't have to believe what
we see. We have to trust the unseen and what
is within us. Because what is within us is heaven,
love. And once we start to trust our self, instead
of what the government and society tells us,
the more we become this energized electromagnetic
being of energy, where we can manifest our own
lives. And we do energize and create love and
happiness within others around us as well. Beautiful.
So that's my life mission now, Eric. You know,
as I said to you before we started, I do get
hundreds of emails every day. I try and get videos
onto YouTube at least two or three days a week.
I do tarot cards for people. I do psychic readings
for people. I try my best to be the best for
others. I'm not egotistical about this. I'm just
an average person who's had three marriages.
I've got issues, health issues like all of us.
I'm you. And I think that's the biggest part
that I'm not a special person. I am you. And
if I can get through this, so can you. And if
you need help, anyone listening, all you've got
to do is reach out and touch me, contact me,
and start believing that you can be your best
version too. Beautiful. Thank you for all that.
You ready for a deluge of questions now? Sure.
I'm going to go way back to the beginning. I
want to talk more about the flowers for a minute.
Sure. I've actually got a picture I didn't show
you because when I saw the flowers. Okay. This
one better have color. Yeah. The colors, Eric.
I can't explain the colors. Try. We don't have
the colors here. You know, our color spectrum,
we only see about 10 % of the colors on the color
pie chart. And when I was looking at these colors,
I close my eyes and it's like the music. When
I close my eyes, I can still feel the music and
I can smell the colors. Now you just heard that
right. I could smell the music and I could feel
and touch the color of the flowers because our
senses, why is touch so limited? Our sight. is
so limited. So our sight and our touch are combined.
I could sense when I was looking at the mountains,
it's not just looking at the mountains. I could
smell the mountains. I could taste the mountains
because it's all one. So these flowers, I close
my eyes, I can see the colors. They're gorgeous
colors. Try to explain. You said you had a picture.
Yes. The picture I have, this is the flowers.
I'm just putting that in. So that's the shape
we just need. That's the shape of the petals.
But look at the energy coming out of the end
of them. Yep, they had like little energy ports
coming out of the end of the flowers. Oh, kind
of like the sparklers again. Like the sparklers
again. And you know, when we look at ourselves
as a human being, we have skin, which is our
biggest organ in our body. But when we take away
our skin, and we take away all our internal organs,
our skeleton and our blood, and we sit here as
an energized being of blue, whoa, now we're going
down a rabbit hole. But when we think of us just
being like an energized bunny of energy, we become
these little tentacles of energy that come out
of us like a pheromone. and they do interact
with the pheromones of other things around us.
So my pen, I'm holding up a pen. So when I think
about my pen, my energy is connecting to this
pen, even though we call this an anonymous object,
okay? But it's not. It's made of natural materials.
So those natural materials, like the ink inside
my pen, it has an energy field. So that energy
comes out like a pheromone and it intermingles
with my own. So when we look at my water bottle,
the water is an energized being as well, and
it emits the same tentacles of energy like I
do. So that's why when we interact with people,
they say emotions are contagious. If I'm happy
and I walk into a room of depressed people, I'm
going to become depressed just like them. Or
if my energy is strong, I will create that energy
to become everything around me as well. That's
why when we laugh, we make other people laugh.
Even when we yawn. When we yawn. Everyone else
around us yawns. Yes, even when we yawn. other
people around us receive that information and
they become that same energy. So when I go to
hospitals, I always feel like I'm sick. If I
go to my daughter's university and I'm walking
around there with all that energy of all those
kids trying to learn stuff, they've got all this
energy about their career, where they're going.
I come out of university feeling, I've got this.
Because we do absorb the energy around us. So
how do we also do the opposite? When you go to
the hospital, how do you take healing in there
and happiness and joy instead of just taking
on their sickness? How do we share that part
instead? Brilliant question. That's where confidence
comes in. If I know that I'm happy and I know
that my energy can affect others around me. So
when I walk into that hospital and I am got that
conviction of my energy, which is my emotions.
So when I'm sitting there with a sick person
in their hospital bed, I could become them or
they could become my energy. This is where we
have to decide. who is ultimately going to win
that war of energy fields. Obviously if I go
into a sick room of sick people, I want them
to get healthy. So I go in there with that intention
of them getting well through my energy. There
is a lot of people and I'll be honest Eric, there
are so many people out there who believe they
are sick, so they create themselves to be sick.
Now, I'm going to tell you something about me.
When I was a baby, I was in hospital for two
years. The doctors told my mom and dad that I'd
need heart, lung, and kidney transplants before
I was 10. It's all about our mental capacity
of saying no. So how do you think I felt when
I got diagnosed with a brain tumor? I came home
and I said no. This isn't going to happen. And
every day I kept telling myself, I am healthy,
I am fit, and I am strong. The I am affirmation
works because I've proven it time and time again
with myself. The more we tell ourselves that
we are something, the more we create it. What
we think, we create. So walking into a hospital,
it's all about free will. We all have a decision.
People can go in there believing chemotherapy
will work. But if someone goes into hospital
and they say, I'm not having that because I don't
believe I believe that I can heal myself. Now,
this is dangerous because people will say, oh,
Linda's dangerous now because she's telling us
about self healing. But if we truly believe in
our heart that we can heal ourselves. I'm already
proof it can be done. You didn't talk about seeing
any other people except Karina and the three
beings that were in the church cathedral kind
of place. Did you see other people around? I
mean, you saw a big city and things or had there
been other beings? When I was in heaven, I saw
thousands of people. That first place that I
went with the rolling hills, with the city, there
was thousands of people. Thousands of animals.
I saw dinosaurs, bears, dogs, bats, birds, butterflies,
you name it, was there. I did say earlier, I
saw a medieval lady instantly transform into
a hippie. I saw a boy turn into a bear. It was,
I saw dinosaurs. Yeah, in general, what were
people doing? Just walking around being happy.
You know, I've got a video where people said,
what do we do in heaven all day? And I said,
well, I'll tell you what we don't do in heaven.
We don't have to pay bills. We don't have to
sleep. We don't blink. We don't fart. We don't
have to go to the bathroom. We don't have to
sleep. So we don't have to cook because we don't
have to eat because we are now energy beings.
So what we spend our time is doing is to creating
energy of that space. And this is what Karina
told me about when we reincarnate. We come back
here to learn lessons so we recreate that heaven
energy. Look how fast we fall in love with someone
and within six months we're virtually breaking
up because we can't stand them anymore. We fall
out of love very easy because love is the highest
vibrational energy and therefore it's the hardest
one to maintain. So we come to Earth, this is
how she explained it, we come here to learn all
the horrible things, so we learn to appreciate
what is good. So I explain it like this. The
first day that someone goes to the beach, they
run down to the beach, they're so enthusiastic,
the energy is so pumping through them, they're
running down through the water. The second day,
yeah, they're still running down through the
water, but they're thinking, yeah, I only did
this yesterday. Two weeks later, they walk down.
They don't even run. They just walk down to the
beach and it's like, oh yeah, again, again, again.
And that's where heaven has to keep replenishing
this energy to rebuild it. So the more we think
about the love and that passion of what love
is, the more we created in heaven. That's how
she explained it. You know, to be honest, I always
say the hardest our life is, the more Trauma
we go through the more we're learning how to
love she told you a lot of things about the future
Were there some things that she told you that
haven't happened yet? Yeah, would you be willing
to share some well? One of the worst things that
she did tell me which is now I believe is coming
true she said that between 2020 -2025 She said
three in eight will perish. I never understood
that until a few years ago when I heard that
our population had just hit eight billion people.
She told me about a war. She didn't say it was
nuclear bombs. She didn't say it was AK -47s
or bombings. She didn't say how the war would
happen, but she did say many, many will perish.
She virtually told me it was all in the Northern
Hemisphere. So when we look now at what's happening
with Europe, with their immigration problems,
when we look at what's happening now with the
Middle East, Pakistan and India, when we look
at even Canada and America, who are all in the
Northern Hemisphere countries, you could virtually
say right now we are in a World War III because
of all the conflict that is going on. She told
me it was going to be a spiritual war against
religion and I'm seeing it firsthand every day.
People want to disprove the beliefs of others
and that goes against everything of heaven because
heaven teaches that we don't judge, we don't
assume and most of all we don't expect others
to be like us. So therefore we accept and allow
others to be who they are without judgment or
retaliation. And we're seeing a lot of that now.
So maybe this is the war that she was telling
me about. Maybe. She told me that there is a
peace coming and we do go into a better time
as our consciousness does awaken. I believe that
all of us NDEers, isn't it ironic that there's
so many people now having NDE's? Did we sign
up for these NDE's which I firmly believe we
did. because I know that life contracts and life
lessons are real. So we're put here to give that
hope and to bring in that love to show others
that even though when we can't see heaven and
we can't physically say where it is, that these
people that have NDE's, we're a collective energy
to give people that hope that it is our reality.
It's what it's all about. It's what this podcast
is all about, leaving people with a message of
hope. And we need to get to that point and sign
off here quickly, but one last question. Well,
never say one because it's always more than that.
I admit, how did this change you? You've told
me a lot of things that you've learned, but deep
inside the Linda, how did you really change?
I'll be honest with you, Eric. I've learnt that
society makes us a little bit selfish. We always
look at ourselves, what job do I do? It's all
about I. What job do I do? What bills do I get?
Where do I go of a weekend? Once we get rid of
that I mentality, which is what I learnt in heaven,
and we truly learn what compassion is when we
do look after others. more than that I idea or
theory that society gives us. That's the biggest
lesson that me personally, because I don't like
using I, but I learned that I'm one with everybody.
When somebody is homeless, I feel their pain
and that fear of what could happen to them because
they're unprotected and unsecured. When I see
an animal injured, I feel their fear. But then
when I see someone live in a millionaire's lifestyle
where they have got those comforts, I also feel
that comfort, which comes with being an empath.
And I believe that if everyone on the planet
could have that same ability to learn compassion
and perspective, this world will be in peace
before we know it. So I try to teach that to
others. I'm going to throw one other word out
there, and that is empathy. Empathy. And it seems
like that life review, that box that you were
in, and I hear this from people about their life
reviews, that they are put in the position not
only of themselves reliving it, but the person
or thing that they affected. That's what empathy
is all about, is really feeling. how we affect
other people and understanding what they are
feeling. Yeah. You know, so just yesterday I
went to the shops and the lady before me, she
hadn't, she didn't have her card with her, she
left her wallet at home. And I was sitting there
and I was thinking, Linda, just pay for her groceries,
just pay for her groceries. But she had a whole
trolley and you know, I'm not the most financial
person on the planet. So I just looked up and
I thought, I want to be the person who could
pay for her groceries. because I feel her embarrassment
of having to stand there and now waiting for
her husband to bring a wallet to the shops. So
if we could all learn that side of what other
people are feeling, there'd be no competition.
Look how society makes us compete. Look at sports.
Everything is one against another. You have two
teams in football, tennis. You know, there's
hardly any competitions where you compete solely,
where you're the only winner. Even in golf, we
say, oh yeah, that's a one person player, but
you're also competing with all those other people
playing as well. So that society makes us compete.
They want us to be better than the next person,
which here in Australia we call tall poppy syndrome.
We all want what other people have got. But when
we look into our heart and our soul, and our
energy and we realize that we are all the same.
Ultimately, there's no competition. If only the
world could learn that. There'd be no wars, there'd
be no religious wars, there'd be no homelessness
compared to millionaires living in $300 million
houses. Because everyone's the same. That's me
sounding like we're having this. idealism where
everyone has the same salary, but it's not. It's
about energy and what we create and whether we
create homelessness or we can create compassion
where we do help others when they're in a bad
situation. As I said, bad stuff happens to good
people and I firmly believe that we are all born
as good people. It's only society that throws
those bad situations at us. But ultimately, we
even look at, this could trigger people, but
we look at people like Genghis Khan, Hitler,
even through the mass murderers. They were all
born as that clean slate where things in their
life and the environment affected them. So I
try to help people get through those experiences.
to learn the compassion and love so they don't
create that negativity in their world or those
around them, because our energy does infect other
people. That's, I think, is the spiritual war,
because me, like so many other psychics at the
moment, other empires, we do feel the hurt, the
pain, and the hatred that is now getting created
around the planet. So it's time to not do that
anymore. We send out love. We send out healing.
And most of all, we send out that compassion
of love. All right. I'm going to give you the
last say, the last 30 seconds. Give us a message
of hope today. Message of hope is to look within
your heart. Ask yourself every day, is this truly
who I want to be? Every day I strive to be an
angel. I'll never be an angel. I'm not egotistical
enough to be an angel, but I strive to live like
an angel. So if we could all strive to be a better
person, get through our struggles, get through
our situations and hurts in this life, stop blaming
others for what we create ourselves and start
doing our affirmations, our psychic exercises,
raising our vibrations up. This whole planet
can do a mass healing, but it all takes one to
start it. By the way, you can be an angel. Dr.
Linda Kramer, thank you so much for being with
me today. Thank you so much for having me, Eric.
I love your work. Please, everyone, I say to
everyone, spread the word. So if you're listening
today, not me because I'm not the one earning
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to everybody. The more we learn how to be loving
people, the more we are creating that within
ourselves. Thank you so much for having me today,
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