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From the time that they pronounced me dead was

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a good 45 minutes. They cut my clothes and then

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they paddled my heart, my heart had stopped and

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I could see people screaming and crying but I

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didn't realize that was actually my physical

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body because I was somewhere else. The only thing

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that I could feel if you could imagine absolute

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love and peace, there wasn't anything else to

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be felt. I was greeted by people I'd known in

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the past. I'm back home again. Incredibly safe

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and felt at home. Welcome, welcome to Round Trip

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Death, everybody. And we're going to have fun

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today. We're going all the way down to Brisbane,

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Australia. Did I say that okay, Linda? Well,

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it's fine. Thank you so much. We are meeting

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with Dr. Linda Kramer. Thank you for coming to

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us. We figured out how to do the whole time change

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thing. what we haven't figured out yet is it's

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spring almost summer where I am which means it's

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fall almost winter where you are. That's right

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we're getting the chilly mornings here now I

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tell you it's it's frosts and fog here at the

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moment so you know to have your perspective on

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the other side of the planet that's amazing.

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And I just can't tell you enough how much I am

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so honored to be here today, Eric. It is amazing

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to talk with you. So thank you so much for considering

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me as one of your guests today. Wow. You are

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way too sweet and way too nice. Thank you. Do

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you want me to call you Linda or Dr. Linda? You

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can just call me Linda. I don't actually care

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for titles. you know anything else with me you

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hey you you can just call me your highness while

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you're at it as you know we start the show with

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we want to get to know you for just a minute

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tell us a little bit about linda and then we're

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going to jump right into your nde because we

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need all the time we can because it is spectacular

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go ahead so i was born in the mid 60s and my

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dad was in the RAAF, which is the Air Force.

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So my upbringing with my two sisters, my mum

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and my dad, we traveled around a lot. So I ended

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up going to nine different schools. Even with

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that change of environment every year or two

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growing up, I always knew that I was something

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different. I just did not fit in. I always have

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been a psychic since birth. Just knowing things

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that other people wouldn't know, just blurring

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it out as a child does got me into a lot of trouble

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with family, friends, schools. So I was often

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called the freak. I got abused a lot, sworn at

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a lot. I just didn't fit in. So it was probably

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a good thing that we did move around a lot because

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it was a new clientele of people learning who

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Linda was. I ended up in a relationship. my first

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marriage because I've been with three different

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partners. He used to call me the witch and I

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just thought haha yeah yeah you know party trick

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time at you know going to parties telling people

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they're fortune that sort of thing but I never

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really got into what was spiritualism or being

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a psychic. I just you know I was a manager for

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Australia Post our postal service. I had other

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jobs growing up that I did so I was more concerned

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with this environment, the governance. I was

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more concerned with having the conditioned lifestyle

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that we have in society of getting married, having

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a job, getting a house, having children, pets,

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and doing things in the community. So that marriage

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broke up and I ended up going over to America,

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to North Carolina, where I met my, well, I already

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did know him because he worked where I used to

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work. We got married in August 2020 and it wasn't

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the best relationship. He had a lot of personal

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issues himself. I came into that relationship

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hoping to assimilate into the US. I honestly

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loved America. I wanted to live there. I wanted

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to be a permanent resident or a citizen. I was

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applying for jobs left, right and center, but

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obviously without a green card, I couldn't work

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over there. So we had a lot of issues. He did

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not want to do my immigration paperwork, which

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was a major red flag for me. So there was a lot

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of, I would call domestic abuse there, which

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escalated in May, 2021. I prefer not to talk

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about what he did to me, where I prefer to talk

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about what happened as a consequence of what

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he did to me. So on the night of May 6, I was

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really not well. It was like an asthma attack

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flu type thing that I had. I woke up at about

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two in the morning and I couldn't breathe. Honest,

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I was busting to go to the toilet, literally

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dying to go to the toilet, which is ironic because

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what happened? I laugh about it. That's like

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people dying to get on this show. Sorry, keep

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going. Are you going to laugh with it? Because

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I do laugh at it because even though it was such

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a traumatic event, it turned out to be the best

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event of my ever life. Whoever knew dying was

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going to be the best thing that ever happened

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to me, right? So I went to the toilet and I'm

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sitting on the toilet and the scariest part in

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hindsight was the fact that I just went to sleep.

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It was just like any other normal event, drifting

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and falling asleep. So the next thing I know

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is that I'm floating in the living room up near

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the ceiling in the corner. There's a little bit

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of a backstory here between me dying and being

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instantly in the living room. I like putting

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this part in because my ex -husband, he said

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that he woke up because he heard someone banging

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on the wall and he came in and found me. already

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blue and he went and called an ambulance. I know

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for a fact I never banged on the wall because

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I had absolutely no energy at all because it

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took me 10 minutes to walk 10 feet to the bathroom.

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So I'm now floating in the living room and I

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watched Higg walk through the living room. and

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it was two paramedics standing at the door. He's

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rushed them back through into the bedroom, which

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the bathroom was off the bedroom. So that's where

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my body was out the back in the back bedroom

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and the back bathroom. I'm in the living room

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and I saw the sheriff come in. He had a button

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that was missing on his shirt. He had a little

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pudgy belly that was sticking out through his

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shirt and he also was limping. He had a limp

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on his left foot. I saw his coffee mug that he

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used. He had a notepad that he was writing things

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in and I'm like, oh yeah, I can see what he's

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writing there. I heard the whole conversations

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with the fire department even turned up. Some

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other people turned up with other uniforms on

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that I never knew because I'm from Australia,

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I don't know the uniforms. Then two more paramedics

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turned up which in my medical files, turned out

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to be my advanced life support crew. So the advanced

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crew turned up and they came through with a defibrillator,

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all this other equipment that I just watched

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going through. So people like asking me, how

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did I feel when I saw all this commotion going

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on in my house? And I'm honest, it didn't matter

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to me. I didn't care about it. I wasn't concerned.

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I wasn't scared. I was just allowing it all to

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unfold in front of me like I was watching a movie

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because it was pretty obvious that Linda, the

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body in the bathroom, was not me anymore. So

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when they finally wheeled her out, it wasn't

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me. I was watching her like a movie with no connection

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to that body at all. They wheeled out my body.

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I watched as my ex -husband now, because I broke

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up with him after this event and I came back

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to Australia, he locked the door and he left.

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He turned off the lights. But there I am still

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floating near the ceiling with not a concern

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in the world. I didn't even worry about how did

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I get up here? Why don't I fall down? There was

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no gravity. But then the front door opened. One

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of the weird things that happened before I even

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went to heaven. and all these orbs, blue, dark

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blue, like royal blue orbs came into the room.

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There would have been 12 or 15 of these orbs

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floating around me and inside them was pure white

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energy and then they went to blue and then they

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had like sparkle effects coming out of them,

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which was energy and they're floating around

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me. Some stopped in front of me, but they had

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no eyes. So I don't know if they were observing

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me or interacting with me at all because I had

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no interaction with these. There was no communication

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at all. So they're like floating around me and

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they didn't hit each other so they could obviously

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interact with each other and communicate together.

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But then they all just went out the front door

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and it was like they stopped and all of them

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instantly went out the door. I want a little

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more description before you move on. These orbs,

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so they were actually round like a ball? That's

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right. Yes. Because I've had some people describe

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to me blue figures that they didn't know quite,

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are these angels or these ancestries? What are

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these? But yours are round. That's interesting.

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Can we go into a sidestep? I now see spirit guides.

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One time when I was interviewing with this man,

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He was at my house, he had a pterodactyl that

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flew in, 80 foot pterodactyl in my backyard.

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I actually went over, he was like, what are you

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doing woman? I was under this pterodactyl feeling

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its wings and it was like a bat wing, very similar

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to a bat. When he left, this pterodactyl shot

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off across the sky and it turned into a blue

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streak. the same blue color that I saw in my

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orbs, which I'm also going to presume here that

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you just mentioned when people see these blue

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beings as well. So this blue energy of what I

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see as spirit guides and what other people see,

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and also what I saw as these orbs in my own house,

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because I do have pictures. There's a map of

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where I was in the house. So that's where I was

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floating and this is where my body was around

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in the back bedroom So by the way for those that

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are listening to the audio only version of the

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podcast Can you explain about how far that away?

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Yep. So when you come through the bedroom living

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room Yep, you come through the living room. There's

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the front door you walk through the living room,

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which was probably 15 feet and then you have

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to go into the master bedroom walk down to the

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back wall, walk past a walk -along closet, and

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then you walk up into a bathroom behind the walk

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-in closet. So all up, it would have been about

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50 feet to where I was when my body was to where

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I was floating. But then when I saw these blue

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orbs, here's a picture that I drew in hospital

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of what they look like. which is these are all

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in my book. If you do want a PDF of my book,

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please email me because I like giving out my

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books for free to people as well as people who

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buy them. We'll stick that in the show notes.

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I guess I assumed that the orbs would be very

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smooth on the outside, but what you're showing

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has a little like feelers or something coming

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out. Do you know what party sparklers are those

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long? Sure. and you light the end and they all

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go sparkle, sparkle. And we call them here in

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Australia, we call them sparklers and you wave

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them around and they make zigzags in the air

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and stuff. So that sparkle effect is what these

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had come in out of them. Sounds beautiful. Well,

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wait until we get to heaven because I saw it

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again there as well. OK, I'm sorry. I'm holding

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you back from the heaven part. Yeah. By the way,

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we could title this episode five years in heaven.

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Thank you, because that's actually what my book's

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called. All right. One other quick thing before

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I let you move on and that is that I find it

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interesting that your spirit didn't follow the

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ambulance. A lot of people go with the ambulance

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and they're sort of watching their body the whole

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time and you stayed behind and then you took

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off and ended up where? I found myself, which

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I joke about, in the field of flowers. I've said

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it many times it's almost like there's an X on

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the ground and it's like the landing port where

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people find themselves standing in that field

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of flowers in heaven. So I'm looking around and

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down below me there's flowers growing and as

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I walked even though in I was energy with no

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body these flowers moved because they knew my

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thoughts. So the flowers moved knowing that I

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thought I would squash them as I walked. So they

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moved out of the way? Yeah, the flowers physically

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moved. So yeah, the flowers physically moved

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to avoid my feet coming down on top of them.

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That was a very pivotal moment right there before

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we go into five years of being in heaven. because

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I learned straight away there about perspective

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and how our thoughts all do integrate into one

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consciousness. It also showed me that energy

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waves like frequencies and currencies do be affected

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by other things around them. These flowers moved

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as I tried to walk, but then I realized, I don't

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squash the flowers because I now was also receiving

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the information from the flowers where they knew

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that I was ignorant at this point because I hadn't

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learned that I would not squash them because

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I was energy. So we had a two -way telepathic

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communication going and it was a knowing of what

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each of us were both thinking. But it wasn't

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just one flower. It was 50 ,000 flowers in this

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field. So the role in Flea Fields went up into,

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far in the distance was mountain ranges. Over

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to my left, way, way over was a big city with

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huge skyscrapers. I could see behind me without

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turning my head. So I had this all 360 degree

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peripheral. where I did not have to turn my head

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to know everything that was going on around me.

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I stayed in this place for probably 18 months

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of my five years in heaven. I walked down cobbled

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roads into little villages, which makes me wonder,

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why do we have houses when we don't have to cook

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or sleep or use a bathroom? I walked into the

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cities and I was walking up the stairs of the

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cities. but there was no elevators or other technology

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there. Then I realized I didn't even need to

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use the stairs like the mountains. If I wanted

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to climb to the top of a mountain or if I wanted

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to go to the top floor of one of these buildings,

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all I had to do was think it and I was there.

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I live by little catchphrases now, Eric. One

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of my catchphrases is, we think, we create. And

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now in my existence of thinking of creation,

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look how much now other people are saying the

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same sort of things where we create our own reality.

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The more we think about being sick, the more

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sicker we get. The more we think about manifestation,

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the more we do manifest things. So in this existence

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of seeing thousands and thousands of people,

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I realized perspective as well. whereby I can

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become the other objects or beings around me

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and I could see everything that they had gone

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through as well. In my book, Five Years in Heaven,

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I do talk about the ducks. I was sitting there

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on a chair because there was heaps of chairs

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in heaven. One of my videos on my YouTube channel,

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it actually says, why are there chairs in heaven?

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It's because we do pause. and we contemplate

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and we get that perspective of what other things

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have been. I'm sitting on this chair and I'm

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watching this group of ducks and I became one

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of the ducks. I felt the feathers, I felt the

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webbed feet. I've had a beak that went quack

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when I made a noise and then I learnt or I should

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say knew. everything this duck had ever been

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through with all its lives and other bands that

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it had ever been. When I say it like that, we're

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not always one person. So when we reincarnate,

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next time we can become a bear. The life after

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that we may be Anne Boleyn married to Henry VIII

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in the UK. The life after that we might be Buzz

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Aldrin going to the moon. The life after that,

00:19:02.440 --> 00:19:05.480
we could be a cat growing up in India. There's

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no time, there's no space in this existence.

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Everything was concurrent and here, present.

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So when I talk about the mountains being miles

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and miles and miles away, hundreds and hundreds

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of miles away, all I had to do was think of being

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there and instantly I was at the bottom of the

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mountain range. If I thought to have been on

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the top of the mountain, instantly I was on top

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of the mountains. As soon as I thought about

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people there, I became them and I saw and knew

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everything they had been through, through that

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oneness of heaven. Everything is like a cell.

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Everything is like a drop of water in the ocean

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where it all becomes one. I'm in this place.

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interacting with thousands of people, I saw a

00:20:01.170 --> 00:20:06.730
medieval woman instantly turn into a 1970s hippie.

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I saw little boys playing on the fields and instantly

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one turned into a bear because we can change

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who and what we are through that mentality of

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what we think we create. So we change our lives

00:20:23.950 --> 00:20:28.450
in heaven. I know being Linda, that's just not

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the end of being Linda. I could go back to having

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the perfect skin I had as a baby. I could have

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the long blonde hair I had when I was 25. I could

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have the waistline that I had when I was 17,

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but I could still have the nails and the knowledge

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that I had when I was 55. So even though when

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we say, oh yeah, she's back to Linda. we can

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still pick and choose bits of Linda that we create

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to be. And then we can become the duck, we can

00:21:00.789 --> 00:21:03.490
become the medieval woman, we could become the

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buildings, the mountains, everything there. And

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one thing I haven't mentioned is the music. It

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was constant overlaying itself with no speakers.

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So there's no source of this noise, but it was

00:21:20.190 --> 00:21:24.910
from everything. I finally worked it out. It

00:21:24.910 --> 00:21:29.769
was the sound of energy, that relaying tribal

00:21:29.769 --> 00:21:36.750
chant -like noise of vibrational energy. Just

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a couple of months ago, funny thing, I found

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this report where a man said we can hear energy.

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So that verified what happened to me 24 years

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ago. Wow, I love it when I get my confirmation.

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So I'm standing in this space and I get a tap

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on my shoulder. I'm now finding myself at the

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front of this huge church cathedral type building.

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As I walk in, we're talking a corridor probably

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a mile long, but the walls were made of pieces

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of wood that would have been a mile long. The

00:22:18.640 --> 00:22:21.779
planks were, not just like our two by fours that

00:22:21.779 --> 00:22:25.460
we have here on this planet, the planks of woods

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would have been six foot wide, 20 foot wide pieces

00:22:29.539 --> 00:22:33.799
of wood. The sandstone were blocks that were

00:22:33.799 --> 00:22:38.700
half a mile wide. It was enormous, this space.

00:22:39.480 --> 00:22:45.779
As I'm walking down through the long pews of

00:22:45.779 --> 00:22:49.450
chairs made from one piece of wood, right down

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at the front of the church, there were three

00:22:52.609 --> 00:22:56.170
beings down there. And I use them three beings

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as my book cover on my book, Five Years in Heaven.

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So there's three beings, which probably it'd

00:23:04.049 --> 00:23:07.049
be better if I show you this picture. So if anyone

00:23:07.049 --> 00:23:09.509
does want to see my pictures, I do have them

00:23:09.509 --> 00:23:11.730
on my YouTube channel where I talk about what

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I see. These beings were energy. The energy went

00:23:17.160 --> 00:23:21.640
from the ground upwards, like a reverse waterfall,

00:23:22.579 --> 00:23:26.940
and it all circulated going left and right at

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the same time, clockwise and anti -clockwise.

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And it made like a vortex of energy where the

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head would have been. And in front of these three

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beings was this box, again, with this illumination

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of energy coming out of it. So I'm standing there

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thinking, oh my gosh, who are these people? But

00:23:51.000 --> 00:23:55.059
there was no fear. There was no concern. It was

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all peaceful. I heard inside my head the words,

00:24:00.400 --> 00:24:04.839
we are not here to judge. And I knew, like a

00:24:04.839 --> 00:24:09.019
psychic knows things, that this was from them.

00:24:09.279 --> 00:24:11.900
I don't know which one it was, but it was from

00:24:11.900 --> 00:24:15.809
them. And then I knew. that I had to look into

00:24:15.809 --> 00:24:21.549
this box and heal all of my memories. So as I

00:24:21.549 --> 00:24:26.390
look into this box, there was no sides. There

00:24:26.390 --> 00:24:30.730
was no floor and no walls in this box. As I looked

00:24:30.730 --> 00:24:35.630
down into it, it was eternal. And inside were

00:24:35.630 --> 00:24:40.380
all these little round orbs of energy. and inside

00:24:40.380 --> 00:24:43.359
each one of them was a little video screen with

00:24:43.359 --> 00:24:47.920
a memory inside it and there were millions of

00:24:47.920 --> 00:24:51.180
these little energy balls and I knew I had to

00:24:51.180 --> 00:24:54.500
pick one out so I'm looking and I'm deciding

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because I had a thought I could think in this

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place which one will I pick out and the first

00:25:02.140 --> 00:25:05.220
couple that I picked out was one that I dealt

00:25:05.220 --> 00:25:08.480
with as a child I don't actually have a memory

00:25:08.480 --> 00:25:12.109
of this But when I picked up this memory of me

00:25:12.109 --> 00:25:17.009
being like six months old, 18 months old, I remembered

00:25:17.009 --> 00:25:21.170
it. I relived this memory and it was involving

00:25:21.170 --> 00:25:24.289
a white cat that belonged to my grandmother.

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So now I became the memory. I'm in the front

00:25:29.950 --> 00:25:32.349
yard of my grandmother's house, sitting on the

00:25:32.349 --> 00:25:37.720
front yard and her cat is there, white cat. and

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I pulled its tail. Instantly, I knew that it

00:25:42.539 --> 00:25:44.799
was wrong. So obviously, I've done this before

00:25:44.799 --> 00:25:47.559
and I got into trouble for it. I knew it was

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wrong and I'm having this little giggle like

00:25:50.400 --> 00:25:54.460
an 18 -month -old baby does. Then I had to judge

00:25:54.460 --> 00:25:58.339
myself because nobody else judges us. We judge

00:25:58.339 --> 00:26:02.559
ourselves. I had to judge myself. Why did I pull

00:26:02.559 --> 00:26:06.329
that cat's tail when I knew it was wrong? I had

00:26:06.329 --> 00:26:11.890
to go through all those reasons, all those memories

00:26:11.890 --> 00:26:15.809
of that experience. But then I had to become

00:26:15.809 --> 00:26:19.049
the cat to see that perspective of the other

00:26:19.049 --> 00:26:23.470
side. I'm the white cat slinking along the grass

00:26:23.470 --> 00:26:28.210
and I can feel my whiskers, I can sense, I'm

00:26:28.210 --> 00:26:31.430
sensing for little bugs in the grass. and then

00:26:31.430 --> 00:26:34.470
there's this baby sitting there, a humanoid baby,

00:26:34.890 --> 00:26:39.390
and it pulls my tail. Instant horrendous pain

00:26:39.390 --> 00:26:42.750
running up my tail, going straight up my spine,

00:26:42.769 --> 00:26:48.849
and I let out this ah of a hiss of a cat, and

00:26:48.849 --> 00:26:53.230
then I had to judge myself as this cat. Why did

00:26:53.230 --> 00:26:55.809
I do what I did as a consequence of what the

00:26:55.809 --> 00:26:58.509
baby did? So this is how we learn perspective.

00:26:58.859 --> 00:27:03.500
And this is how we also learn how to heal the

00:27:03.500 --> 00:27:06.940
actions we've done that have affected others.

00:27:07.680 --> 00:27:10.420
Yeah, this is like a life review in a way. This

00:27:10.420 --> 00:27:14.140
was my life review. Did you eventually take all

00:27:14.140 --> 00:27:16.500
of those things out of the box and review all

00:27:16.500 --> 00:27:19.579
these things in your life or just a few? I went

00:27:19.579 --> 00:27:23.660
through probably 8 ,000 of those memories. A

00:27:23.660 --> 00:27:27.359
whole bunch of them. Funny thing because we cry

00:27:27.359 --> 00:27:29.859
a lot because it's tenfold like the Bible says,

00:27:30.740 --> 00:27:34.940
all my emotions were tenfold. If I smiled at

00:27:34.940 --> 00:27:38.779
a person walking down the street and when I became

00:27:38.779 --> 00:27:43.680
that person and I look at this Linda who smiled

00:27:43.680 --> 00:27:49.579
at me, that gratitude is tenfold and you're crying

00:27:49.579 --> 00:27:52.880
uncontrollably because the energy just pours

00:27:52.880 --> 00:27:57.400
out of you. But as we heal and as we process

00:27:57.400 --> 00:28:00.420
the things that we've done, all that water just

00:28:00.420 --> 00:28:03.859
disappears. I have spoken about the water in

00:28:03.859 --> 00:28:06.460
heaven a few times in my videos as well on my

00:28:06.460 --> 00:28:09.700
own YouTube channel because I break things down

00:28:09.700 --> 00:28:12.500
when I try and talk about specific parts because

00:28:12.500 --> 00:28:14.940
there was so much of it to talk about. When we

00:28:14.940 --> 00:28:19.140
do bad things, oh my gosh, we feel it tenfold.

00:28:19.450 --> 00:28:22.009
So I do talk about some things that I did which

00:28:22.009 --> 00:28:27.029
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it, it'll be in the show notes. Now back to the

00:29:21.680 --> 00:29:27.599
guest. As a teenager, I punched a girl at school,

00:29:27.900 --> 00:29:31.940
which I'm not proud of now. So I go through that

00:29:31.940 --> 00:29:36.579
absolute agonizing feeling. Why did I punch that

00:29:36.579 --> 00:29:39.500
girl at school? Which, you know, we all have

00:29:39.500 --> 00:29:42.319
that sort of thing when we're a child. And then

00:29:42.319 --> 00:29:44.700
I became the other girl to see her perspective.

00:29:45.460 --> 00:29:48.220
And that's how we learn to forgive. And that's

00:29:48.220 --> 00:29:52.920
how we learn to heal our emotions. Because our

00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:58.319
emotions are energy. It's when we have emotions

00:29:58.319 --> 00:30:04.299
that go up and down like a currency wave. Then

00:30:04.299 --> 00:30:09.380
when we heal and when we become peace, that wave

00:30:09.380 --> 00:30:14.000
becomes that flat line of energy. We don't have

00:30:14.000 --> 00:30:16.500
any down, which is what we call negative emotions.

00:30:16.940 --> 00:30:19.160
We don't have any ups, which is our positive

00:30:19.160 --> 00:30:24.240
emotions. It's a constant state of peace, is

00:30:24.240 --> 00:30:26.940
what I understood. As I said, I'd went through

00:30:26.940 --> 00:30:30.240
about 8 ,000 of my memories. Wow, that's a lot.

00:30:30.819 --> 00:30:33.759
I think I was there for about 18 months, all

00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:36.779
up, because it would have taken about half an

00:30:36.779 --> 00:30:40.700
hour to 45 minutes per memory. Some of the memories,

00:30:40.779 --> 00:30:43.059
they were pretty bad ones, so they take about

00:30:43.059 --> 00:30:46.180
a couple of hours to really psychoanalyze, why

00:30:46.180 --> 00:30:49.880
did you do that for? And then I find myself in

00:30:49.880 --> 00:30:52.779
this white space. So if I look at a piece of

00:30:52.779 --> 00:30:55.980
paper, a white piece of paper, And you imagine

00:30:55.980 --> 00:30:59.359
this is white space. There's no floor. There's

00:30:59.359 --> 00:31:02.039
no walls. There's no ceiling. This is where I

00:31:02.039 --> 00:31:04.279
found myself. Oh, actually, I'll just show you

00:31:04.279 --> 00:31:06.839
that picture for anyone who can see. There's

00:31:06.839 --> 00:31:09.779
a picture of me holding one of my memories. A

00:31:09.779 --> 00:31:13.579
little video screen in the orb for anyone who

00:31:13.579 --> 00:31:17.759
does see this. But so now I find myself in this

00:31:17.759 --> 00:31:22.000
white space. So just to clarify, I floated for

00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:26.910
45 minutes in the house. which was verified in

00:31:26.910 --> 00:31:31.430
Earth time. Then I went to heaven for about 18

00:31:31.430 --> 00:31:35.450
months. Then I went to my life review for about

00:31:35.450 --> 00:31:39.609
18 months. So not of Earth time, obviously. No.

00:31:40.130 --> 00:31:43.930
I base it on distances. You know, I walk about

00:31:43.930 --> 00:31:46.490
three miles an hour. So when I look at these

00:31:46.490 --> 00:31:49.670
huge buildings like a hundred miles away and

00:31:49.670 --> 00:31:52.970
I calculate, okay, if I walk three miles an hour,

00:31:53.079 --> 00:31:55.240
because I'm watching the trees go past me and

00:31:55.240 --> 00:32:00.039
the houses and other things. From the time that

00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:03.380
I left until I get to there, that's 100 miles.

00:32:03.839 --> 00:32:08.200
If I'm walking three miles an hour, that would

00:32:08.200 --> 00:32:11.380
take me X amount of hours to get there if you

00:32:11.380 --> 00:32:15.960
do the math. That's why I estimate about 18 months.

00:32:16.380 --> 00:32:20.220
But then when I've entered into my life review,

00:32:20.400 --> 00:32:23.430
which was about another 18 months, I estimate

00:32:23.430 --> 00:32:27.890
about 45 minutes per memory, and I went through

00:32:27.890 --> 00:32:31.950
thousands and thousands, probably six to 12 ,000

00:32:31.950 --> 00:32:35.410
memories. So I just estimate 8 ,000 because I

00:32:35.410 --> 00:32:38.089
wasn't counting, but there was a heck of a lot.

00:32:38.089 --> 00:32:41.930
I was there for an extremely long time. So when

00:32:41.930 --> 00:32:45.329
I entered into the white space, I estimate that

00:32:45.329 --> 00:32:48.549
I was here for about another 18 months because

00:32:48.549 --> 00:32:52.710
of what I was told by my great, great Great,

00:32:53.490 --> 00:32:56.750
great grandmother. She was standing in this space

00:32:56.750 --> 00:33:01.250
and she was way off the side and she only appeared

00:33:01.250 --> 00:33:05.049
as a little like half an inch big. But as she

00:33:05.049 --> 00:33:07.089
walked towards me, because there was no floor

00:33:07.089 --> 00:33:10.750
in this space, she got bigger and she came towards

00:33:10.750 --> 00:33:13.430
me and she came up to me and she was quite angry

00:33:13.430 --> 00:33:17.569
and she said, why are you here for? And she went,

00:33:18.150 --> 00:33:21.230
oh, you're not supposed to be here. and I said

00:33:21.230 --> 00:33:26.049
to her, I don't know where I am, so how do I

00:33:26.049 --> 00:33:28.230
get back to where I was because I don't know

00:33:28.230 --> 00:33:33.150
how I got here? This is the first time in years

00:33:33.150 --> 00:33:36.069
where someone's showing me any sort of negative

00:33:36.069 --> 00:33:39.130
emotion. She sort of settles herself down, she's

00:33:39.130 --> 00:33:43.930
patting down a dress and she says, my name is

00:33:43.930 --> 00:33:47.230
Karina and I am your great, great, great, great

00:33:47.230 --> 00:33:50.480
grandmother. and I'm like sitting there, my chin's

00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:55.359
on the floor, thinking, what? And she says, I've

00:33:55.359 --> 00:33:58.740
got to tell you who I am first. So she went into

00:33:58.740 --> 00:34:03.559
great detail for months all about herself. She

00:34:03.559 --> 00:34:07.559
told me where she lived in the early 1800s. She

00:34:07.559 --> 00:34:11.139
told me about all her relatives, how to make

00:34:11.139 --> 00:34:18.219
an axe out of a tree, how to meld metal. into

00:34:18.219 --> 00:34:22.340
an axe head. She showed me devices that they

00:34:22.340 --> 00:34:26.400
use to make washing machines, how to make clothes

00:34:26.400 --> 00:34:29.719
when there was no needles. This went on for an

00:34:29.719 --> 00:34:33.920
extremely long time. How I break this down is,

00:34:34.639 --> 00:34:37.260
if we talk to someone for an hour on the phone,

00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:39.800
and then after that hour, we sit there and we

00:34:39.800 --> 00:34:42.320
think about what was said. These conversations

00:34:42.320 --> 00:34:46.219
with Karina went for thousands. and thousands

00:34:46.219 --> 00:34:48.820
of hours. But then she started talking about

00:34:48.820 --> 00:34:52.519
me. She said to me things like, you must go back

00:34:52.519 --> 00:34:56.179
to the land where you're from because you will

00:34:56.179 --> 00:35:00.099
be rounded up and sent home if you stay. She

00:35:00.099 --> 00:35:04.619
said, the event that is in your September where

00:35:04.619 --> 00:35:07.420
everyone from around the world will be watching

00:35:07.420 --> 00:35:12.000
and dust will cover all those affected. Everyone

00:35:12.000 --> 00:35:15.699
will appear gray. Now, I had no idea at that

00:35:15.699 --> 00:35:18.480
point that she was talking about 9 -11 because

00:35:18.480 --> 00:35:22.539
I died in May 2001. So she was telling me that

00:35:22.539 --> 00:35:25.199
I had to go back to Australia. She told me to

00:35:25.199 --> 00:35:28.840
leave before September. September 2001 was 9

00:35:28.840 --> 00:35:33.039
-11. So she gave me pretty detailed evidence

00:35:33.039 --> 00:35:35.820
about that event. She told me about earthquakes.

00:35:36.380 --> 00:35:39.079
She told me about the tsunami in Indonesia that

00:35:39.079 --> 00:35:42.500
would kill hundreds of thousands of people. She

00:35:42.500 --> 00:35:46.559
told me about the volcano in Hawaii where three,

00:35:46.719 --> 00:35:49.500
she actually said three moles of land will be

00:35:49.500 --> 00:35:53.719
created and you will watch it from afar. I watched

00:35:53.719 --> 00:35:57.280
that volcano on YouTube every day while it was

00:35:57.280 --> 00:36:00.400
erupting in Hawaii. So she was true that she

00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:05.079
said to me, you must remember your child is important

00:36:05.079 --> 00:36:09.340
to us. So never forget this date. And I'm thinking.

00:36:09.579 --> 00:36:11.699
Should I have a pen and paper in this place?

00:36:11.840 --> 00:36:14.820
Because there's so much she's given me. So she

00:36:14.820 --> 00:36:20.320
told me a date in 2005 and she said, don't ever

00:36:20.320 --> 00:36:22.380
forget this date because that's the date you

00:36:22.380 --> 00:36:25.380
conceive your daughter. Did you have any kids

00:36:25.380 --> 00:36:30.059
at that point? I did have one daughter who lives

00:36:30.059 --> 00:36:33.699
with my first husband. So she was telling me

00:36:33.699 --> 00:36:36.699
about a future child four years in the future

00:36:36.699 --> 00:36:39.860
that I was going to have. Which, by the way,

00:36:39.980 --> 00:36:44.679
I did remember the date and we did consummate.

00:36:45.420 --> 00:36:48.320
And now I do have my daughter who is now nearly

00:36:48.320 --> 00:36:52.420
19 years old because she was born in 2006. I've

00:36:52.420 --> 00:36:55.360
got my daughter. She told me that I would be

00:36:55.360 --> 00:36:58.260
working for the police for 10 years. She said,

00:36:58.300 --> 00:37:00.840
when you return to Australia, you will be getting

00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:04.000
a job with the great force of Queensland, which

00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:07.230
is the police force. She said to me, you must

00:37:07.230 --> 00:37:10.110
go through this 10 years because of the lessons

00:37:10.110 --> 00:37:13.269
that you are going to learn whilst there. I was

00:37:13.269 --> 00:37:16.050
with the Queensland Police Service from 2002

00:37:16.050 --> 00:37:21.349
until 2012, 10 years, just like she said. And

00:37:21.349 --> 00:37:24.070
I did learn a lot of lessons during that time

00:37:24.070 --> 00:37:28.409
because a lot of criminals only act out because

00:37:28.409 --> 00:37:31.690
of the situation in their lives. So again, we

00:37:31.690 --> 00:37:34.780
learn in about perspective. and how bad things

00:37:34.780 --> 00:37:38.500
do happen to good people. So I've got a few friends

00:37:38.500 --> 00:37:42.139
now that were criminals because I understand

00:37:42.139 --> 00:37:45.199
their situation at that time where they didn't

00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:48.159
have anything else other that they could do instead

00:37:48.159 --> 00:37:51.579
of what they did. So I see the perspective of

00:37:51.579 --> 00:37:54.139
what people go through. She told me that I would

00:37:54.139 --> 00:37:57.539
be a first aid trainer for two years, which I

00:37:57.539 --> 00:38:03.900
was January 15 until January 17. I was a first

00:38:03.900 --> 00:38:06.659
aid trainer, teaching people about first aid,

00:38:06.980 --> 00:38:10.360
teaching people how to heal themselves. Because

00:38:10.360 --> 00:38:13.000
then she said, that's when you will start to

00:38:13.000 --> 00:38:16.980
heal yourself. So isn't it funny, in 2017, I

00:38:16.980 --> 00:38:19.900
was diagnosed with a brain tumor, which I don't

00:38:19.900 --> 00:38:25.619
have anymore because I healed it. 2019, I was

00:38:25.619 --> 00:38:29.920
diagnosed with throat cancer. I had an inch lump

00:38:29.920 --> 00:38:34.239
here in my throat. I do not have that anymore,

00:38:34.880 --> 00:38:38.039
even though I've got all the scans, all the x

00:38:38.039 --> 00:38:42.599
-rays, all the MRIs to prove I had these injuries.

00:38:43.400 --> 00:38:46.920
She said to me, you will go through all of this

00:38:46.920 --> 00:38:51.199
in 20 years when you start telling people about

00:38:51.199 --> 00:38:56.579
it, you have the integrity and credibility of

00:38:56.579 --> 00:38:59.590
being able to help others. So she told me about

00:38:59.590 --> 00:39:02.090
COVID, she told me about the vaccinations, and

00:39:02.090 --> 00:39:05.090
then she told me all about healing those who

00:39:05.090 --> 00:39:08.230
go through trauma. I believe that I went through

00:39:08.230 --> 00:39:11.510
a lot of trauma myself, so then I can help other

00:39:11.510 --> 00:39:14.309
people go through theirs as well. How do we get

00:39:14.309 --> 00:39:17.329
out of addictions unless somebody actually has

00:39:17.329 --> 00:39:20.210
gone through addictions and gotten out of that

00:39:20.210 --> 00:39:24.130
well or that pit of depression to help others?

00:39:24.869 --> 00:39:28.539
So that's my journey now. I went out and got

00:39:28.539 --> 00:39:33.719
my PhD. I've done heaps of qualifications. So

00:39:33.719 --> 00:39:36.199
I can help others to not only become the best

00:39:36.199 --> 00:39:38.840
version of themselves, but we can also learn

00:39:38.840 --> 00:39:42.679
to heal ourselves without basing our opinions

00:39:42.679 --> 00:39:47.320
on what pharmaceutical companies and healthcare

00:39:47.320 --> 00:39:50.239
professionals tell us. She said, you've got to

00:39:50.239 --> 00:39:53.880
go back. And I said to her, how do I go back

00:39:53.880 --> 00:39:56.360
if I don't know where I am? And she said, have

00:39:56.360 --> 00:39:59.199
you learned nothing? All you have to do is think

00:39:59.199 --> 00:40:03.159
about it and you create it. So as I started thinking

00:40:03.159 --> 00:40:07.860
about my house, the room where I slept, the bathroom

00:40:07.860 --> 00:40:12.960
where I passed away, instantly I hear this woman

00:40:12.960 --> 00:40:16.199
say, squeeze my hand if you can hear me, Linda.

00:40:17.119 --> 00:40:20.500
Squeeze my hand. And I'm confused because I've

00:40:20.500 --> 00:40:23.539
got my eyes shut because for five years I didn't

00:40:23.539 --> 00:40:27.190
have to close my eyes or blink. And I've got

00:40:27.190 --> 00:40:31.230
this blood pressure cup on my arm squeezing and

00:40:31.230 --> 00:40:36.550
it's hurting. And I think, ow, what's this? So

00:40:36.550 --> 00:40:39.230
as I open my eyes and there's all these nurses

00:40:39.230 --> 00:40:41.670
looking at me, oh, she's here, she's awake, she's

00:40:41.670 --> 00:40:46.170
awake. I find myself in ICU at the Cabarrus County

00:40:46.170 --> 00:40:50.809
Hospital, which is now called the Atrium in Concord.

00:40:51.389 --> 00:40:53.269
So you can Google that hospital because that's

00:40:53.269 --> 00:40:56.110
where I was. It was a very, very interesting

00:40:56.110 --> 00:40:59.750
few weeks recovering because my psychic abilities

00:40:59.750 --> 00:41:04.130
were absolutely perfect. I was seeing ghosts,

00:41:04.429 --> 00:41:08.230
I was knowing things, telling nurses stories

00:41:08.230 --> 00:41:10.710
about their animals and she said, how did you

00:41:10.710 --> 00:41:13.929
know that? Nurses were coming in and I just know

00:41:13.929 --> 00:41:17.530
their car registration numbers, where I've been

00:41:17.530 --> 00:41:20.449
in a ICU ward for a few weeks. How would I know

00:41:20.449 --> 00:41:24.210
that sort of thing? When I got home, I discovered

00:41:24.210 --> 00:41:27.389
that I knew what was on TV before turning the

00:41:27.389 --> 00:41:30.150
TV on. I knew when the phone was going to ring,

00:41:30.190 --> 00:41:32.530
which I still do now. I pick up my phone like

00:41:32.530 --> 00:41:35.650
three seconds before it rings. I know what songs

00:41:35.650 --> 00:41:39.969
are on the radio. Trees talk to me. Clothing

00:41:39.969 --> 00:41:44.110
talks to me. Cars tell me where they've got holes

00:41:44.110 --> 00:41:47.949
in their muffler, that they need oil, and to

00:41:47.949 --> 00:41:52.030
fix upholstery on their driver's side, that passenger

00:41:52.030 --> 00:41:56.199
seat. everything now talks to me. Some days I

00:41:56.199 --> 00:42:00.239
get a bit inundated, but I've learned now over

00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:04.539
the past 20 years how to control that chaos of

00:42:04.539 --> 00:42:08.380
energy that we do create. So I started a YouTube

00:42:08.380 --> 00:42:11.340
channel. I've written books. I've got four books

00:42:11.340 --> 00:42:15.079
out there now. I try my best to help others who

00:42:15.079 --> 00:42:20.119
are struggling. I try my best to educate that

00:42:20.119 --> 00:42:24.599
sometimes in life, We don't have to believe what

00:42:24.599 --> 00:42:28.780
we see. We have to trust the unseen and what

00:42:28.780 --> 00:42:34.039
is within us. Because what is within us is heaven,

00:42:35.039 --> 00:42:40.559
love. And once we start to trust our self, instead

00:42:40.559 --> 00:42:43.719
of what the government and society tells us,

00:42:44.539 --> 00:42:49.360
the more we become this energized electromagnetic

00:42:49.360 --> 00:42:53.659
being of energy, where we can manifest our own

00:42:53.659 --> 00:42:59.460
lives. And we do energize and create love and

00:42:59.460 --> 00:43:02.800
happiness within others around us as well. Beautiful.

00:43:03.400 --> 00:43:06.400
So that's my life mission now, Eric. You know,

00:43:06.739 --> 00:43:09.360
as I said to you before we started, I do get

00:43:09.360 --> 00:43:14.119
hundreds of emails every day. I try and get videos

00:43:14.119 --> 00:43:17.139
onto YouTube at least two or three days a week.

00:43:17.340 --> 00:43:21.079
I do tarot cards for people. I do psychic readings

00:43:21.079 --> 00:43:25.699
for people. I try my best to be the best for

00:43:25.699 --> 00:43:29.199
others. I'm not egotistical about this. I'm just

00:43:29.199 --> 00:43:32.460
an average person who's had three marriages.

00:43:33.360 --> 00:43:36.500
I've got issues, health issues like all of us.

00:43:36.940 --> 00:43:40.380
I'm you. And I think that's the biggest part

00:43:40.380 --> 00:43:46.079
that I'm not a special person. I am you. And

00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:51.000
if I can get through this, so can you. And if

00:43:51.000 --> 00:43:55.000
you need help, anyone listening, all you've got

00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:59.039
to do is reach out and touch me, contact me,

00:43:59.619 --> 00:44:04.719
and start believing that you can be your best

00:44:04.719 --> 00:44:08.019
version too. Beautiful. Thank you for all that.

00:44:08.440 --> 00:44:11.699
You ready for a deluge of questions now? Sure.

00:44:12.750 --> 00:44:16.449
I'm going to go way back to the beginning. I

00:44:16.449 --> 00:44:19.050
want to talk more about the flowers for a minute.

00:44:19.449 --> 00:44:21.710
Sure. I've actually got a picture I didn't show

00:44:21.710 --> 00:44:25.170
you because when I saw the flowers. Okay. This

00:44:25.170 --> 00:44:29.309
one better have color. Yeah. The colors, Eric.

00:44:29.929 --> 00:44:33.989
I can't explain the colors. Try. We don't have

00:44:33.989 --> 00:44:37.070
the colors here. You know, our color spectrum,

00:44:37.170 --> 00:44:40.150
we only see about 10 % of the colors on the color

00:44:40.150 --> 00:44:43.329
pie chart. And when I was looking at these colors,

00:44:43.570 --> 00:44:48.030
I close my eyes and it's like the music. When

00:44:48.030 --> 00:44:51.730
I close my eyes, I can still feel the music and

00:44:51.730 --> 00:44:54.469
I can smell the colors. Now you just heard that

00:44:54.469 --> 00:45:01.070
right. I could smell the music and I could feel

00:45:01.070 --> 00:45:06.489
and touch the color of the flowers because our

00:45:06.489 --> 00:45:11.519
senses, why is touch so limited? Our sight. is

00:45:11.519 --> 00:45:16.860
so limited. So our sight and our touch are combined.

00:45:17.300 --> 00:45:19.860
I could sense when I was looking at the mountains,

00:45:19.920 --> 00:45:23.199
it's not just looking at the mountains. I could

00:45:23.199 --> 00:45:27.340
smell the mountains. I could taste the mountains

00:45:27.340 --> 00:45:32.539
because it's all one. So these flowers, I close

00:45:32.539 --> 00:45:35.039
my eyes, I can see the colors. They're gorgeous

00:45:35.039 --> 00:45:38.579
colors. Try to explain. You said you had a picture.

00:45:39.280 --> 00:45:44.469
Yes. The picture I have, this is the flowers.

00:45:44.690 --> 00:45:46.869
I'm just putting that in. So that's the shape

00:45:46.869 --> 00:45:49.110
we just need. That's the shape of the petals.

00:45:49.650 --> 00:45:51.650
But look at the energy coming out of the end

00:45:51.650 --> 00:45:54.690
of them. Yep, they had like little energy ports

00:45:54.690 --> 00:45:57.610
coming out of the end of the flowers. Oh, kind

00:45:57.610 --> 00:46:00.889
of like the sparklers again. Like the sparklers

00:46:00.889 --> 00:46:04.809
again. And you know, when we look at ourselves

00:46:04.809 --> 00:46:07.949
as a human being, we have skin, which is our

00:46:07.949 --> 00:46:11.230
biggest organ in our body. But when we take away

00:46:11.230 --> 00:46:14.570
our skin, and we take away all our internal organs,

00:46:14.750 --> 00:46:18.150
our skeleton and our blood, and we sit here as

00:46:18.150 --> 00:46:22.730
an energized being of blue, whoa, now we're going

00:46:22.730 --> 00:46:26.449
down a rabbit hole. But when we think of us just

00:46:26.449 --> 00:46:31.469
being like an energized bunny of energy, we become

00:46:31.469 --> 00:46:35.929
these little tentacles of energy that come out

00:46:35.929 --> 00:46:40.349
of us like a pheromone. and they do interact

00:46:40.349 --> 00:46:43.210
with the pheromones of other things around us.

00:46:43.449 --> 00:46:47.929
So my pen, I'm holding up a pen. So when I think

00:46:47.929 --> 00:46:52.369
about my pen, my energy is connecting to this

00:46:52.369 --> 00:46:56.550
pen, even though we call this an anonymous object,

00:46:57.010 --> 00:47:01.909
okay? But it's not. It's made of natural materials.

00:47:02.690 --> 00:47:06.730
So those natural materials, like the ink inside

00:47:06.730 --> 00:47:11.250
my pen, it has an energy field. So that energy

00:47:11.250 --> 00:47:14.449
comes out like a pheromone and it intermingles

00:47:14.449 --> 00:47:17.690
with my own. So when we look at my water bottle,

00:47:18.909 --> 00:47:24.369
the water is an energized being as well, and

00:47:24.369 --> 00:47:28.829
it emits the same tentacles of energy like I

00:47:28.829 --> 00:47:32.929
do. So that's why when we interact with people,

00:47:33.349 --> 00:47:37.139
they say emotions are contagious. If I'm happy

00:47:37.139 --> 00:47:41.260
and I walk into a room of depressed people, I'm

00:47:41.260 --> 00:47:43.739
going to become depressed just like them. Or

00:47:43.739 --> 00:47:49.940
if my energy is strong, I will create that energy

00:47:49.940 --> 00:47:53.360
to become everything around me as well. That's

00:47:53.360 --> 00:47:56.480
why when we laugh, we make other people laugh.

00:47:56.940 --> 00:48:00.739
Even when we yawn. When we yawn. Everyone else

00:48:00.739 --> 00:48:06.000
around us yawns. Yes, even when we yawn. other

00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:09.860
people around us receive that information and

00:48:09.860 --> 00:48:15.000
they become that same energy. So when I go to

00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:21.519
hospitals, I always feel like I'm sick. If I

00:48:21.519 --> 00:48:25.099
go to my daughter's university and I'm walking

00:48:25.099 --> 00:48:27.920
around there with all that energy of all those

00:48:27.920 --> 00:48:31.420
kids trying to learn stuff, they've got all this

00:48:31.420 --> 00:48:34.059
energy about their career, where they're going.

00:48:34.409 --> 00:48:37.949
I come out of university feeling, I've got this.

00:48:38.730 --> 00:48:42.949
Because we do absorb the energy around us. So

00:48:42.949 --> 00:48:45.590
how do we also do the opposite? When you go to

00:48:45.590 --> 00:48:48.869
the hospital, how do you take healing in there

00:48:48.869 --> 00:48:52.869
and happiness and joy instead of just taking

00:48:52.869 --> 00:48:55.309
on their sickness? How do we share that part

00:48:55.309 --> 00:49:00.590
instead? Brilliant question. That's where confidence

00:49:00.590 --> 00:49:06.860
comes in. If I know that I'm happy and I know

00:49:06.860 --> 00:49:11.199
that my energy can affect others around me. So

00:49:11.199 --> 00:49:15.920
when I walk into that hospital and I am got that

00:49:15.920 --> 00:49:19.340
conviction of my energy, which is my emotions.

00:49:20.039 --> 00:49:22.159
So when I'm sitting there with a sick person

00:49:22.159 --> 00:49:26.019
in their hospital bed, I could become them or

00:49:26.019 --> 00:49:28.800
they could become my energy. This is where we

00:49:28.800 --> 00:49:33.260
have to decide. who is ultimately going to win

00:49:33.260 --> 00:49:36.400
that war of energy fields. Obviously if I go

00:49:36.400 --> 00:49:39.840
into a sick room of sick people, I want them

00:49:39.840 --> 00:49:43.739
to get healthy. So I go in there with that intention

00:49:43.739 --> 00:49:47.599
of them getting well through my energy. There

00:49:47.599 --> 00:49:51.159
is a lot of people and I'll be honest Eric, there

00:49:51.159 --> 00:49:56.139
are so many people out there who believe they

00:49:56.139 --> 00:49:59.739
are sick, so they create themselves to be sick.

00:49:59.949 --> 00:50:02.510
Now, I'm going to tell you something about me.

00:50:02.869 --> 00:50:06.210
When I was a baby, I was in hospital for two

00:50:06.210 --> 00:50:10.329
years. The doctors told my mom and dad that I'd

00:50:10.329 --> 00:50:14.730
need heart, lung, and kidney transplants before

00:50:14.730 --> 00:50:18.730
I was 10. It's all about our mental capacity

00:50:18.730 --> 00:50:22.650
of saying no. So how do you think I felt when

00:50:22.650 --> 00:50:26.409
I got diagnosed with a brain tumor? I came home

00:50:26.409 --> 00:50:30.860
and I said no. This isn't going to happen. And

00:50:30.860 --> 00:50:34.159
every day I kept telling myself, I am healthy,

00:50:34.659 --> 00:50:40.139
I am fit, and I am strong. The I am affirmation

00:50:40.139 --> 00:50:43.840
works because I've proven it time and time again

00:50:43.840 --> 00:50:46.940
with myself. The more we tell ourselves that

00:50:46.940 --> 00:50:51.099
we are something, the more we create it. What

00:50:51.099 --> 00:50:55.099
we think, we create. So walking into a hospital,

00:50:55.659 --> 00:50:59.119
it's all about free will. We all have a decision.

00:50:59.500 --> 00:51:02.940
People can go in there believing chemotherapy

00:51:02.940 --> 00:51:05.820
will work. But if someone goes into hospital

00:51:05.820 --> 00:51:08.739
and they say, I'm not having that because I don't

00:51:08.739 --> 00:51:12.539
believe I believe that I can heal myself. Now,

00:51:12.539 --> 00:51:16.579
this is dangerous because people will say, oh,

00:51:16.619 --> 00:51:19.579
Linda's dangerous now because she's telling us

00:51:19.579 --> 00:51:23.320
about self healing. But if we truly believe in

00:51:23.320 --> 00:51:28.130
our heart that we can heal ourselves. I'm already

00:51:28.130 --> 00:51:30.530
proof it can be done. You didn't talk about seeing

00:51:30.530 --> 00:51:33.829
any other people except Karina and the three

00:51:33.829 --> 00:51:36.329
beings that were in the church cathedral kind

00:51:36.329 --> 00:51:38.849
of place. Did you see other people around? I

00:51:38.849 --> 00:51:41.289
mean, you saw a big city and things or had there

00:51:41.289 --> 00:51:45.010
been other beings? When I was in heaven, I saw

00:51:45.010 --> 00:51:47.829
thousands of people. That first place that I

00:51:47.829 --> 00:51:50.650
went with the rolling hills, with the city, there

00:51:50.650 --> 00:51:53.809
was thousands of people. Thousands of animals.

00:51:54.130 --> 00:51:58.769
I saw dinosaurs, bears, dogs, bats, birds, butterflies,

00:51:59.110 --> 00:52:02.230
you name it, was there. I did say earlier, I

00:52:02.230 --> 00:52:05.489
saw a medieval lady instantly transform into

00:52:05.489 --> 00:52:10.610
a hippie. I saw a boy turn into a bear. It was,

00:52:10.789 --> 00:52:13.690
I saw dinosaurs. Yeah, in general, what were

00:52:13.690 --> 00:52:17.809
people doing? Just walking around being happy.

00:52:18.489 --> 00:52:21.829
You know, I've got a video where people said,

00:52:21.869 --> 00:52:24.150
what do we do in heaven all day? And I said,

00:52:24.170 --> 00:52:25.969
well, I'll tell you what we don't do in heaven.

00:52:26.010 --> 00:52:27.869
We don't have to pay bills. We don't have to

00:52:27.869 --> 00:52:30.929
sleep. We don't blink. We don't fart. We don't

00:52:30.929 --> 00:52:33.449
have to go to the bathroom. We don't have to

00:52:33.449 --> 00:52:36.170
sleep. So we don't have to cook because we don't

00:52:36.170 --> 00:52:38.789
have to eat because we are now energy beings.

00:52:39.170 --> 00:52:43.070
So what we spend our time is doing is to creating

00:52:43.070 --> 00:52:47.570
energy of that space. And this is what Karina

00:52:47.710 --> 00:52:51.070
told me about when we reincarnate. We come back

00:52:51.070 --> 00:52:56.550
here to learn lessons so we recreate that heaven

00:52:56.550 --> 00:53:00.489
energy. Look how fast we fall in love with someone

00:53:00.489 --> 00:53:03.349
and within six months we're virtually breaking

00:53:03.349 --> 00:53:06.409
up because we can't stand them anymore. We fall

00:53:06.409 --> 00:53:11.809
out of love very easy because love is the highest

00:53:11.809 --> 00:53:15.690
vibrational energy and therefore it's the hardest

00:53:15.690 --> 00:53:20.039
one to maintain. So we come to Earth, this is

00:53:20.039 --> 00:53:24.380
how she explained it, we come here to learn all

00:53:24.380 --> 00:53:27.719
the horrible things, so we learn to appreciate

00:53:27.719 --> 00:53:31.739
what is good. So I explain it like this. The

00:53:31.739 --> 00:53:34.199
first day that someone goes to the beach, they

00:53:34.199 --> 00:53:36.659
run down to the beach, they're so enthusiastic,

00:53:37.099 --> 00:53:39.239
the energy is so pumping through them, they're

00:53:39.239 --> 00:53:42.019
running down through the water. The second day,

00:53:42.139 --> 00:53:43.639
yeah, they're still running down through the

00:53:43.639 --> 00:53:45.699
water, but they're thinking, yeah, I only did

00:53:45.699 --> 00:53:48.679
this yesterday. Two weeks later, they walk down.

00:53:48.719 --> 00:53:51.679
They don't even run. They just walk down to the

00:53:51.679 --> 00:53:53.940
beach and it's like, oh yeah, again, again, again.

00:53:54.519 --> 00:53:58.460
And that's where heaven has to keep replenishing

00:53:58.460 --> 00:54:02.639
this energy to rebuild it. So the more we think

00:54:02.639 --> 00:54:07.360
about the love and that passion of what love

00:54:07.360 --> 00:54:10.820
is, the more we created in heaven. That's how

00:54:10.820 --> 00:54:13.480
she explained it. You know, to be honest, I always

00:54:13.480 --> 00:54:17.099
say the hardest our life is, the more Trauma

00:54:17.099 --> 00:54:20.500
we go through the more we're learning how to

00:54:20.500 --> 00:54:23.679
love she told you a lot of things about the future

00:54:23.679 --> 00:54:26.199
Were there some things that she told you that

00:54:26.199 --> 00:54:29.380
haven't happened yet? Yeah, would you be willing

00:54:29.380 --> 00:54:33.159
to share some well? One of the worst things that

00:54:33.159 --> 00:54:37.159
she did tell me which is now I believe is coming

00:54:37.159 --> 00:54:44.739
true she said that between 2020 -2025 She said

00:54:44.739 --> 00:54:48.239
three in eight will perish. I never understood

00:54:48.239 --> 00:54:51.519
that until a few years ago when I heard that

00:54:51.519 --> 00:54:55.159
our population had just hit eight billion people.

00:54:55.619 --> 00:54:59.639
She told me about a war. She didn't say it was

00:54:59.639 --> 00:55:04.639
nuclear bombs. She didn't say it was AK -47s

00:55:04.639 --> 00:55:08.900
or bombings. She didn't say how the war would

00:55:08.900 --> 00:55:12.840
happen, but she did say many, many will perish.

00:55:13.119 --> 00:55:16.159
She virtually told me it was all in the Northern

00:55:16.159 --> 00:55:19.000
Hemisphere. So when we look now at what's happening

00:55:19.000 --> 00:55:21.440
with Europe, with their immigration problems,

00:55:22.039 --> 00:55:25.500
when we look at what's happening now with the

00:55:25.500 --> 00:55:29.380
Middle East, Pakistan and India, when we look

00:55:29.380 --> 00:55:33.079
at even Canada and America, who are all in the

00:55:33.079 --> 00:55:35.980
Northern Hemisphere countries, you could virtually

00:55:35.980 --> 00:55:40.019
say right now we are in a World War III because

00:55:40.019 --> 00:55:43.360
of all the conflict that is going on. She told

00:55:43.360 --> 00:55:46.460
me it was going to be a spiritual war against

00:55:46.460 --> 00:55:50.260
religion and I'm seeing it firsthand every day.

00:55:50.500 --> 00:55:53.780
People want to disprove the beliefs of others

00:55:53.780 --> 00:55:57.920
and that goes against everything of heaven because

00:55:57.920 --> 00:56:01.300
heaven teaches that we don't judge, we don't

00:56:01.300 --> 00:56:04.980
assume and most of all we don't expect others

00:56:04.980 --> 00:56:09.659
to be like us. So therefore we accept and allow

00:56:09.659 --> 00:56:14.059
others to be who they are without judgment or

00:56:14.059 --> 00:56:17.480
retaliation. And we're seeing a lot of that now.

00:56:18.099 --> 00:56:20.539
So maybe this is the war that she was telling

00:56:20.539 --> 00:56:23.800
me about. Maybe. She told me that there is a

00:56:23.800 --> 00:56:27.079
peace coming and we do go into a better time

00:56:27.079 --> 00:56:31.000
as our consciousness does awaken. I believe that

00:56:31.000 --> 00:56:34.599
all of us NDEers, isn't it ironic that there's

00:56:34.599 --> 00:56:37.679
so many people now having NDE's? Did we sign

00:56:37.679 --> 00:56:40.500
up for these NDE's which I firmly believe we

00:56:40.500 --> 00:56:43.989
did. because I know that life contracts and life

00:56:43.989 --> 00:56:48.570
lessons are real. So we're put here to give that

00:56:48.570 --> 00:56:52.889
hope and to bring in that love to show others

00:56:52.889 --> 00:56:55.929
that even though when we can't see heaven and

00:56:55.929 --> 00:57:00.630
we can't physically say where it is, that these

00:57:00.630 --> 00:57:05.630
people that have NDE's, we're a collective energy

00:57:05.630 --> 00:57:09.750
to give people that hope that it is our reality.

00:57:10.119 --> 00:57:13.219
It's what it's all about. It's what this podcast

00:57:13.219 --> 00:57:15.739
is all about, leaving people with a message of

00:57:15.739 --> 00:57:18.500
hope. And we need to get to that point and sign

00:57:18.500 --> 00:57:21.579
off here quickly, but one last question. Well,

00:57:22.280 --> 00:57:24.440
never say one because it's always more than that.

00:57:25.119 --> 00:57:28.940
I admit, how did this change you? You've told

00:57:28.940 --> 00:57:32.079
me a lot of things that you've learned, but deep

00:57:32.079 --> 00:57:35.880
inside the Linda, how did you really change?

00:57:36.539 --> 00:57:41.320
I'll be honest with you, Eric. I've learnt that

00:57:41.320 --> 00:57:46.039
society makes us a little bit selfish. We always

00:57:46.039 --> 00:57:49.239
look at ourselves, what job do I do? It's all

00:57:49.239 --> 00:57:53.539
about I. What job do I do? What bills do I get?

00:57:53.860 --> 00:57:57.260
Where do I go of a weekend? Once we get rid of

00:57:57.260 --> 00:58:00.199
that I mentality, which is what I learnt in heaven,

00:58:00.820 --> 00:58:05.059
and we truly learn what compassion is when we

00:58:05.059 --> 00:58:11.820
do look after others. more than that I idea or

00:58:11.820 --> 00:58:15.340
theory that society gives us. That's the biggest

00:58:15.340 --> 00:58:18.039
lesson that me personally, because I don't like

00:58:18.039 --> 00:58:25.380
using I, but I learned that I'm one with everybody.

00:58:25.900 --> 00:58:29.619
When somebody is homeless, I feel their pain

00:58:29.619 --> 00:58:32.639
and that fear of what could happen to them because

00:58:32.639 --> 00:58:35.900
they're unprotected and unsecured. When I see

00:58:35.900 --> 00:58:40.579
an animal injured, I feel their fear. But then

00:58:40.579 --> 00:58:43.820
when I see someone live in a millionaire's lifestyle

00:58:43.820 --> 00:58:47.039
where they have got those comforts, I also feel

00:58:47.039 --> 00:58:49.860
that comfort, which comes with being an empath.

00:58:50.800 --> 00:58:53.460
And I believe that if everyone on the planet

00:58:53.460 --> 00:58:57.780
could have that same ability to learn compassion

00:58:57.780 --> 00:59:02.019
and perspective, this world will be in peace

00:59:02.019 --> 00:59:05.099
before we know it. So I try to teach that to

00:59:05.099 --> 00:59:07.639
others. I'm going to throw one other word out

00:59:07.639 --> 00:59:11.179
there, and that is empathy. Empathy. And it seems

00:59:11.179 --> 00:59:13.760
like that life review, that box that you were

00:59:13.760 --> 00:59:16.539
in, and I hear this from people about their life

00:59:16.539 --> 00:59:19.619
reviews, that they are put in the position not

00:59:19.619 --> 00:59:23.599
only of themselves reliving it, but the person

00:59:23.599 --> 00:59:28.539
or thing that they affected. That's what empathy

00:59:28.539 --> 00:59:32.650
is all about, is really feeling. how we affect

00:59:32.650 --> 00:59:35.630
other people and understanding what they are

00:59:35.630 --> 00:59:39.670
feeling. Yeah. You know, so just yesterday I

00:59:39.670 --> 00:59:41.670
went to the shops and the lady before me, she

00:59:41.670 --> 00:59:43.489
hadn't, she didn't have her card with her, she

00:59:43.489 --> 00:59:45.909
left her wallet at home. And I was sitting there

00:59:45.909 --> 00:59:48.230
and I was thinking, Linda, just pay for her groceries,

00:59:48.349 --> 00:59:50.469
just pay for her groceries. But she had a whole

00:59:50.469 --> 00:59:54.050
trolley and you know, I'm not the most financial

00:59:54.050 --> 00:59:56.590
person on the planet. So I just looked up and

00:59:56.590 --> 00:59:59.170
I thought, I want to be the person who could

00:59:59.170 --> 01:00:04.380
pay for her groceries. because I feel her embarrassment

01:00:04.380 --> 01:00:06.800
of having to stand there and now waiting for

01:00:06.800 --> 01:00:09.980
her husband to bring a wallet to the shops. So

01:00:09.980 --> 01:00:14.280
if we could all learn that side of what other

01:00:14.280 --> 01:00:17.820
people are feeling, there'd be no competition.

01:00:18.840 --> 01:00:22.219
Look how society makes us compete. Look at sports.

01:00:22.460 --> 01:00:25.480
Everything is one against another. You have two

01:00:25.480 --> 01:00:28.460
teams in football, tennis. You know, there's

01:00:28.460 --> 01:00:31.219
hardly any competitions where you compete solely,

01:00:31.739 --> 01:00:35.300
where you're the only winner. Even in golf, we

01:00:35.300 --> 01:00:38.119
say, oh yeah, that's a one person player, but

01:00:38.119 --> 01:00:40.139
you're also competing with all those other people

01:00:40.139 --> 01:00:44.280
playing as well. So that society makes us compete.

01:00:44.659 --> 01:00:47.219
They want us to be better than the next person,

01:00:47.380 --> 01:00:50.380
which here in Australia we call tall poppy syndrome.

01:00:50.840 --> 01:00:54.360
We all want what other people have got. But when

01:00:54.360 --> 01:00:57.739
we look into our heart and our soul, and our

01:00:57.739 --> 01:01:01.300
energy and we realize that we are all the same.

01:01:01.599 --> 01:01:06.019
Ultimately, there's no competition. If only the

01:01:06.019 --> 01:01:09.480
world could learn that. There'd be no wars, there'd

01:01:09.480 --> 01:01:13.760
be no religious wars, there'd be no homelessness

01:01:13.760 --> 01:01:16.860
compared to millionaires living in $300 million

01:01:16.860 --> 01:01:21.219
houses. Because everyone's the same. That's me

01:01:21.219 --> 01:01:24.750
sounding like we're having this. idealism where

01:01:24.750 --> 01:01:27.090
everyone has the same salary, but it's not. It's

01:01:27.090 --> 01:01:32.110
about energy and what we create and whether we

01:01:32.110 --> 01:01:36.030
create homelessness or we can create compassion

01:01:36.030 --> 01:01:39.389
where we do help others when they're in a bad

01:01:39.389 --> 01:01:43.630
situation. As I said, bad stuff happens to good

01:01:43.630 --> 01:01:47.489
people and I firmly believe that we are all born

01:01:47.489 --> 01:01:51.199
as good people. It's only society that throws

01:01:51.199 --> 01:01:54.860
those bad situations at us. But ultimately, we

01:01:54.860 --> 01:01:57.559
even look at, this could trigger people, but

01:01:57.559 --> 01:02:02.059
we look at people like Genghis Khan, Hitler,

01:02:02.719 --> 01:02:05.659
even through the mass murderers. They were all

01:02:05.659 --> 01:02:10.940
born as that clean slate where things in their

01:02:10.940 --> 01:02:14.000
life and the environment affected them. So I

01:02:14.000 --> 01:02:17.139
try to help people get through those experiences.

01:02:17.579 --> 01:02:21.159
to learn the compassion and love so they don't

01:02:21.159 --> 01:02:25.179
create that negativity in their world or those

01:02:25.179 --> 01:02:28.260
around them, because our energy does infect other

01:02:28.260 --> 01:02:31.739
people. That's, I think, is the spiritual war,

01:02:31.960 --> 01:02:34.920
because me, like so many other psychics at the

01:02:34.920 --> 01:02:38.460
moment, other empires, we do feel the hurt, the

01:02:38.460 --> 01:02:41.380
pain, and the hatred that is now getting created

01:02:41.380 --> 01:02:44.780
around the planet. So it's time to not do that

01:02:44.780 --> 01:02:47.679
anymore. We send out love. We send out healing.

01:02:48.300 --> 01:02:50.500
And most of all, we send out that compassion

01:02:50.500 --> 01:02:53.059
of love. All right. I'm going to give you the

01:02:53.059 --> 01:02:55.780
last say, the last 30 seconds. Give us a message

01:02:55.780 --> 01:02:58.559
of hope today. Message of hope is to look within

01:02:58.559 --> 01:03:02.980
your heart. Ask yourself every day, is this truly

01:03:02.980 --> 01:03:06.920
who I want to be? Every day I strive to be an

01:03:06.920 --> 01:03:09.940
angel. I'll never be an angel. I'm not egotistical

01:03:09.940 --> 01:03:13.739
enough to be an angel, but I strive to live like

01:03:13.739 --> 01:03:18.130
an angel. So if we could all strive to be a better

01:03:18.130 --> 01:03:21.889
person, get through our struggles, get through

01:03:21.889 --> 01:03:26.050
our situations and hurts in this life, stop blaming

01:03:26.050 --> 01:03:29.510
others for what we create ourselves and start

01:03:29.510 --> 01:03:32.489
doing our affirmations, our psychic exercises,

01:03:33.110 --> 01:03:36.590
raising our vibrations up. This whole planet

01:03:36.590 --> 01:03:41.409
can do a mass healing, but it all takes one to

01:03:41.409 --> 01:03:45.559
start it. By the way, you can be an angel. Dr.

01:03:45.739 --> 01:03:47.920
Linda Kramer, thank you so much for being with

01:03:47.920 --> 01:03:51.019
me today. Thank you so much for having me, Eric.

01:03:51.300 --> 01:03:55.099
I love your work. Please, everyone, I say to

01:03:55.099 --> 01:03:58.159
everyone, spread the word. So if you're listening

01:03:58.159 --> 01:04:00.840
today, not me because I'm not the one earning

01:04:00.840 --> 01:04:04.719
any money off Eric's podcast, share Eric's podcast

01:04:04.719 --> 01:04:08.820
to everybody. The more we learn how to be loving

01:04:08.820 --> 01:04:12.409
people, the more we are creating that within

01:04:12.409 --> 01:04:15.250
ourselves. Thank you so much for having me today,

01:04:15.429 --> 01:04:21.650
Eric. It's my pleasure really. Thanks again for

01:04:21.650 --> 01:04:24.230
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01:04:34.420 --> 01:04:37.300
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01:04:40.480 --> 01:04:42.800
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01:04:42.800 --> 01:04:43.179
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