WEBVTT 00:00:03.710 --> 00:00:06.730 From the time that they pronounced me dead was 00:00:06.730 --> 00:00:10.210 a good 45 minutes. They cut my clothes and then 00:00:10.210 --> 00:00:13.449 they paddled my heart, my heart had stopped and 00:00:13.449 --> 00:00:16.609 I could see people screaming and crying but I 00:00:16.609 --> 00:00:18.589 didn't realize that was actually my physical 00:00:18.589 --> 00:00:22.010 body because I was somewhere else. The only thing 00:00:22.010 --> 00:00:25.390 that I could feel if you could imagine absolute 00:00:25.390 --> 00:00:28.510 love and peace, there wasn't anything else to 00:00:28.510 --> 00:00:31.600 be felt. I was greeted by people I'd known in 00:00:31.600 --> 00:00:35.079 the past. I'm back home again. Incredibly safe 00:00:35.079 --> 00:00:40.179 and felt at home. Welcome, welcome to Round Trip 00:00:40.179 --> 00:00:43.439 Death, everybody. And a warm welcome to our special 00:00:43.439 --> 00:00:46.859 guest, Krista Gorman, coming to us from Florida. 00:00:47.439 --> 00:00:49.799 Good morning. How are you? Good morning. I'm 00:00:49.799 --> 00:00:52.799 great. How are you? I'm doing so well. What's 00:00:52.799 --> 00:00:55.920 it like in Florida today? It's very windy, sunny, 00:00:56.539 --> 00:00:59.429 but very windy. and just a little bit chilly, 00:00:59.750 --> 00:01:03.530 which is nice. What does chilly mean? Because 00:01:03.530 --> 00:01:07.510 we still have snow around here. Well, with the 00:01:07.510 --> 00:01:11.670 wind blowing, it's probably in the low 60s. Oh, 00:01:12.189 --> 00:01:16.609 sorry, not making fun. Before we jump into your 00:01:16.609 --> 00:01:19.390 NDE, which people are going to love. Great story 00:01:19.390 --> 00:01:21.870 coming up, everybody. Tell us just a little bit 00:01:21.870 --> 00:01:24.810 about you. Who's Krista? Oh, wow. Wow, that's 00:01:24.810 --> 00:01:29.590 a loaded question. Well, Krista is a healthcare 00:01:29.590 --> 00:01:32.969 provider. I work as a PA. I've been a PA for 00:01:32.969 --> 00:01:36.090 25 years. My near -death experience happened 00:01:36.090 --> 00:01:38.450 just three weeks after I graduated PA school. 00:01:38.890 --> 00:01:41.010 My entire career has been spent with this sort 00:01:41.010 --> 00:01:45.150 of like base knowledge, understanding of the 00:01:45.150 --> 00:01:48.370 transition of death and what that sort of entailed 00:01:48.370 --> 00:01:51.450 for me anyway. I was able to incorporate that 00:01:51.450 --> 00:01:55.109 into my practice to a certain extent. But yeah, 00:01:55.189 --> 00:01:58.769 I married. My husband Ainsley Threadgold is also 00:01:58.769 --> 00:02:02.269 a near -death experiencer and a police officer. 00:02:02.769 --> 00:02:05.409 And we have a, I have a stepdaughter, his daughter, 00:02:05.409 --> 00:02:08.849 and I have a daughter through my previous marriage 00:02:08.849 --> 00:02:12.389 who was born three weeks after I graduated PA 00:02:12.389 --> 00:02:16.930 school. Okay. And that has to do with your NDE. 00:02:17.289 --> 00:02:21.520 I'm curious first, You mentioned that you've 00:02:21.520 --> 00:02:25.580 somehow involved this in your practice. Yes. 00:02:25.939 --> 00:02:30.520 Have you had patients that have had NDEs or tell 00:02:30.520 --> 00:02:33.719 me what you meant by that? I have actually met 00:02:33.719 --> 00:02:36.659 some patients who have shared with me without 00:02:36.659 --> 00:02:39.960 me soliciting that information from them that 00:02:39.960 --> 00:02:43.680 they had NDEs. But no, my near -death experience 00:02:43.680 --> 00:02:47.840 just transformed me so fundamentally that about 00:02:47.840 --> 00:02:51.680 a third of the way into my career, I sort of 00:02:51.680 --> 00:02:55.159 came to a point where I was in a sort of desperate 00:02:55.159 --> 00:02:59.979 need of healing my life. And I used my near -death 00:02:59.979 --> 00:03:04.599 experience as the blueprint for healing. And 00:03:04.599 --> 00:03:07.939 in the process of that, found a new sort of state 00:03:07.939 --> 00:03:12.300 of being where I could be. far, far, far more 00:03:12.300 --> 00:03:15.680 present with my patients and far more open to 00:03:15.680 --> 00:03:19.520 receiving information from them. And it just 00:03:19.520 --> 00:03:22.900 really, it assisted me, assisted them in my caring 00:03:22.900 --> 00:03:25.900 for them. How have other healthcare providers 00:03:25.900 --> 00:03:28.919 reacted when you told them about your experience? 00:03:29.280 --> 00:03:31.979 I had a physician I worked with in the emergency 00:03:31.979 --> 00:03:35.659 room who was Catholic, and I was raised Catholic, 00:03:35.699 --> 00:03:39.479 but she came from that point of view. practicing 00:03:39.479 --> 00:03:43.539 Catholic, and she sort of stared at me as I was 00:03:43.539 --> 00:03:47.560 telling her the story, shaking her head, saying, 00:03:47.659 --> 00:03:50.639 you shouldn't be here. She's like, I mean it, 00:03:50.680 --> 00:03:53.280 like you really shouldn't be here. I kind of 00:03:53.280 --> 00:03:56.680 laugh because the medical emergencies that I 00:03:56.680 --> 00:03:59.759 was involved in were significant, and I lived 00:03:59.759 --> 00:04:01.800 through them. So that's kind of the point of 00:04:01.800 --> 00:04:05.199 view. She was in amazement. And then the experience 00:04:05.199 --> 00:04:13.699 itself, she was also in amazement of. I didn't 00:04:13.699 --> 00:04:15.740 widely share it with my colleagues because they 00:04:15.740 --> 00:04:20.639 come from a scientific, very rigid thinking, 00:04:21.339 --> 00:04:25.120 egocentric, which is completely the opposite 00:04:25.120 --> 00:04:28.899 of the experience itself, the polarity of who 00:04:28.899 --> 00:04:32.660 I am really as a person. In the Western medical 00:04:32.660 --> 00:04:36.100 fields and in Western medicine in general, I 00:04:36.100 --> 00:04:39.540 sort of didn't share my NDE a lot, but with those 00:04:39.540 --> 00:04:42.660 that I did share it with, they were pretty floored. 00:04:43.480 --> 00:04:45.879 But in a positive way or did they not believe 00:04:45.879 --> 00:04:47.920 you? In a positive way. If they didn't believe 00:04:47.920 --> 00:04:50.339 me, they didn't share that with me. And, you 00:04:50.339 --> 00:04:54.360 know, I've had just in casual conversations with 00:04:54.360 --> 00:04:57.560 others who work in the medical field. Sometimes 00:04:57.560 --> 00:05:00.019 there'd be like the nod of, oh, yeah, that's 00:05:00.019 --> 00:05:03.959 interesting. And that's even at IAAMS, you know, 00:05:04.019 --> 00:05:08.259 participating at IAAMS. Sometimes the scientists 00:05:08.259 --> 00:05:11.839 there are not there for the sharing love and 00:05:11.839 --> 00:05:15.519 light. They're there for sharing data and facts. 00:05:15.980 --> 00:05:18.480 And it's hard for them to see beyond that sometimes. 00:05:19.160 --> 00:05:22.579 It almost seems though, like, if they're at IAAMS, 00:05:22.660 --> 00:05:25.259 they must at least sort of believe it or what 00:05:25.259 --> 00:05:28.319 are they even doing there? Yeah, I feel that 00:05:28.319 --> 00:05:31.310 too. I haven't actually gotten into an in -depth 00:05:31.310 --> 00:05:35.410 discussion asking questions about that in particular. 00:05:35.769 --> 00:05:40.829 It's just been my experience to a point, to an 00:05:40.829 --> 00:05:43.069 extent, and it's not all of them. I think that 00:05:43.069 --> 00:05:45.769 just points to the deeper aspects of ourselves 00:05:45.769 --> 00:05:51.350 that we are. We wear the suit of a scientist, 00:05:51.910 --> 00:05:54.970 yet we are this infinite being. that is on some 00:05:54.970 --> 00:05:57.149 level, whether it's conscious or unconscious, 00:05:57.589 --> 00:06:01.930 in touch with that realm from which we all emanate, 00:06:02.529 --> 00:06:05.750 where collectively we all exist still. And I 00:06:05.750 --> 00:06:07.949 believe, this is my understanding and my belief 00:06:07.949 --> 00:06:11.490 and my experience, is that we here incarnate 00:06:11.490 --> 00:06:13.910 in these physical bodies. We are only partially 00:06:13.910 --> 00:06:16.649 incarnated in these bodies. There's still a greater 00:06:16.649 --> 00:06:18.970 part of ourselves that exists in the collective, 00:06:19.709 --> 00:06:23.920 in union with all other beings, creatures. that 00:06:23.920 --> 00:06:27.220 source of energy information is that highest 00:06:27.220 --> 00:06:30.560 vibration, and we can get in touch with that 00:06:30.560 --> 00:06:34.120 if we choose to or are able to allow ourselves 00:06:34.120 --> 00:06:36.220 to. And that's part of what you learned during 00:06:36.220 --> 00:06:40.579 your NDE? Yes, and what I've concretely experienced 00:06:40.579 --> 00:06:43.399 afterwards, and even before, you know, looking 00:06:43.399 --> 00:06:47.120 back in my life. But yes, that's something that 00:06:47.120 --> 00:06:51.040 was gleaned from my NDE. Let's jump into that 00:06:51.040 --> 00:06:54.730 part right now. People are in suspense. Now we're 00:06:54.730 --> 00:06:56.870 going back quite a few years and you mentioned 00:06:56.870 --> 00:07:00.029 childbirth, which is when this happened. Did 00:07:00.029 --> 00:07:02.970 you have any complications leading up to it that 00:07:02.970 --> 00:07:05.110 made you think that maybe you were going to have 00:07:05.110 --> 00:07:08.230 some big issues during childbirth? No, I didn't, 00:07:08.350 --> 00:07:11.009 you know, but I did have a precognition, which 00:07:11.009 --> 00:07:13.850 was interesting. So what happened with me was 00:07:13.850 --> 00:07:15.910 I was a PA student. I was in my last year of 00:07:15.910 --> 00:07:18.709 PA school, the very end of my PA training. I'm 00:07:18.709 --> 00:07:22.149 ready to graduate. And I had had a 20 -week ultrasound 00:07:22.149 --> 00:07:26.110 where it showed my daughter's kidney. She had 00:07:26.110 --> 00:07:29.550 a lot of fluid in her kidney. They were concerned 00:07:29.550 --> 00:07:32.910 about it as I approached the end of my pregnancy 00:07:32.910 --> 00:07:36.009 and said, we can induce you a week early and 00:07:36.009 --> 00:07:39.370 get her evaluated sooner to make sure that that 00:07:39.370 --> 00:07:43.509 kidney is OK. So my scientific PA brain said, 00:07:43.569 --> 00:07:46.329 oh, absolutely, let's do that. And my higher 00:07:46.329 --> 00:07:49.160 self sort of for just a brief moment was like, 00:07:49.540 --> 00:07:54.180 no, that's not necessary. It's okay. But I overrode 00:07:54.180 --> 00:07:58.899 it with my ego mind and let the fear, the concern 00:07:58.899 --> 00:08:01.879 sort of take over and agreed to the induction. 00:08:02.600 --> 00:08:06.300 Well, when a mother -to -be is induced, they 00:08:06.300 --> 00:08:08.339 give a medication called Pitocin, which causes 00:08:08.339 --> 00:08:13.000 very significant abnormally strong uterine contractions. 00:08:13.259 --> 00:08:16.649 And I knew that as a student. I completed an 00:08:16.649 --> 00:08:20.230 OB -GYN rotation and helped deliver babies. And 00:08:20.230 --> 00:08:24.230 I understood the process of induction. And I 00:08:24.230 --> 00:08:26.209 also understood that there's complications from 00:08:26.209 --> 00:08:30.310 induction, one of which is distress, significant 00:08:30.310 --> 00:08:32.549 distress on the baby that would lead to a cesarean 00:08:32.549 --> 00:08:35.830 section. And I wanted to avoid that at all costs, 00:08:35.830 --> 00:08:38.210 but at the same time, I wanted to make sure that 00:08:38.210 --> 00:08:41.889 my baby was okay. I agreed to the induction, 00:08:42.029 --> 00:08:47.289 started it after many hours. Overnight, I had 00:08:47.289 --> 00:08:51.809 not progressed very far in labor, and my daughter 00:08:51.809 --> 00:08:54.289 showed signs of distress, significant enough 00:08:54.289 --> 00:08:57.629 to require an emergency C -section. And I knew 00:08:57.629 --> 00:09:00.110 that the minute I saw the tracing on the monitor. 00:09:00.649 --> 00:09:03.470 They were putting an internal monitor on her 00:09:03.470 --> 00:09:07.070 scalp, and she, this is my guess, she reflects, 00:09:07.169 --> 00:09:10.250 she kicks so hard at the pain from it, which 00:09:10.250 --> 00:09:12.090 they say babies don't feel it, but I believe 00:09:12.090 --> 00:09:14.950 that's untrue. She kicked so hard she kicked 00:09:14.950 --> 00:09:17.710 the amniotic fluid into my bloodstream. So that 00:09:17.710 --> 00:09:20.889 caused my body to mount an allergic reaction 00:09:20.889 --> 00:09:23.690 to it because it's not supposed to mix. That's 00:09:23.690 --> 00:09:27.169 what the placenta is for. She kicked so hard 00:09:27.169 --> 00:09:29.389 that she pushed the amniotic fluid into my system 00:09:29.389 --> 00:09:31.529 and right away I started having trouble breathing 00:09:31.529 --> 00:09:34.690 and very quickly decompensated, cardiopulmonary 00:09:34.690 --> 00:09:38.970 wise, and I coded. They lost my pulse for eight 00:09:38.970 --> 00:09:42.889 minutes. During that time, what I recall is being 00:09:42.889 --> 00:09:45.750 unable to catch my breath, them turning me on 00:09:45.750 --> 00:09:48.789 my left side, and that helps pump the heart pump 00:09:48.789 --> 00:09:51.909 blood more efficiently to the baby and to your 00:09:51.909 --> 00:09:54.690 body. They put oxygen on my face and started 00:09:54.690 --> 00:09:56.470 to wheel me out of the room. By the time they 00:09:56.470 --> 00:09:59.049 got me out the door into the hallway between 00:09:59.049 --> 00:10:01.649 my room and the delivery room, the operating 00:10:01.649 --> 00:10:06.669 room, I remember my vision just sort of closing, 00:10:06.970 --> 00:10:10.470 sort of like the tunnel is closing, and this 00:10:10.470 --> 00:10:13.299 feeling of. divine peace just come over me, sort 00:10:13.299 --> 00:10:18.039 of over my head to the front, and I lost my vision. 00:10:18.159 --> 00:10:20.019 I don't know if I closed my eyes or not, but 00:10:20.019 --> 00:10:24.299 I was out. And the next point of awareness I 00:10:24.299 --> 00:10:29.679 had was of looking down, being far above a body, 00:10:30.179 --> 00:10:32.899 looking down and watching black particles come 00:10:32.899 --> 00:10:37.120 racing up to where my vision was. And I was sort 00:10:37.120 --> 00:10:40.600 of surrounded by this undulating, static cloud. 00:10:41.179 --> 00:10:45.200 and I was completely neutral. I didn't have any 00:10:45.200 --> 00:10:48.960 concept of the self or of what I was witnessing 00:10:48.960 --> 00:10:51.399 below. I didn't have any names for anything, 00:10:51.740 --> 00:10:54.340 any identification of what any of it was. I didn't 00:10:54.340 --> 00:10:57.879 know that I had been a human in a body. I was 00:10:57.879 --> 00:11:01.399 just pure consciousness, but I could see. I watched 00:11:01.399 --> 00:11:04.299 another physician come in the room. I watched 00:11:04.299 --> 00:11:06.379 them deliver my daughter. Of course, I didn't 00:11:06.379 --> 00:11:08.240 know that this was a physician, that that was 00:11:08.240 --> 00:11:10.600 my daughter. None of it. These were human beings. 00:11:10.860 --> 00:11:13.480 and I saw somebody take her and turn around, 00:11:13.740 --> 00:11:15.799 and I couldn't see what was going on. And I was 00:11:15.799 --> 00:11:18.840 just curious. I felt this intense curiosity, 00:11:18.960 --> 00:11:21.820 like, oh, I want to know more about this. And 00:11:21.820 --> 00:11:24.220 so I moved to the other side of the room. I saw 00:11:24.220 --> 00:11:27.340 someone to my left shoulder threading something 00:11:27.340 --> 00:11:31.620 into my chest, which I found out was they put 00:11:31.620 --> 00:11:36.500 a Swans Gantz catheter in my pulmonary circulation 00:11:36.500 --> 00:11:38.799 so they could measure for pulmonary hypertension. 00:11:39.179 --> 00:11:42.529 I recall feeling more and more curious, like 00:11:42.529 --> 00:11:45.049 that feeling was intensifying. And then I felt 00:11:45.049 --> 00:11:49.509 something pull to my left and I resisted it because 00:11:49.509 --> 00:11:52.549 I wanted to find out what was going on and it 00:11:52.549 --> 00:11:55.750 pulled harder. I just knew it wasn't going to 00:11:55.750 --> 00:11:58.629 take me unless I wanted to go and it really wanted 00:11:58.629 --> 00:12:02.610 me to go. And so I just agreed. I just felt, 00:12:02.610 --> 00:12:05.909 okay, I'll go. And then I started to move to 00:12:05.909 --> 00:12:09.090 the left super fast. I went through the wall. 00:12:09.190 --> 00:12:12.419 There was like this sort of undulating off white 00:12:12.419 --> 00:12:16.480 wall with wallpaper border and into this white 00:12:16.480 --> 00:12:19.039 space that was just a flash of bright, bright 00:12:19.039 --> 00:12:22.620 white. And then I moved through another sort 00:12:22.620 --> 00:12:26.379 of opening into this dense particulate matter 00:12:26.379 --> 00:12:29.620 that I was. I was sort of like reabsorbed in 00:12:29.620 --> 00:12:33.019 this space and I was moving imperceptibly fast. 00:12:33.580 --> 00:12:36.779 And again, still just quite neutral and just 00:12:36.779 --> 00:12:41.289 like, oh, interested in what was going on, curious 00:12:41.289 --> 00:12:45.129 a bit, and I looked to my left and the side looked 00:12:45.129 --> 00:12:47.970 like dense particles and then at some points 00:12:47.970 --> 00:12:50.289 it would be sort of liquidy, gray, white, black, 00:12:50.529 --> 00:12:52.929 and then turned back into the dense particles. 00:12:53.350 --> 00:12:57.330 Then I turned and I stopped and there was this 00:12:57.330 --> 00:12:59.389 download that I received. It was sort of like 00:12:59.389 --> 00:13:02.269 a funnel of information and all came to one point 00:13:02.269 --> 00:13:05.289 in front of me. It was as if, and this is the 00:13:05.289 --> 00:13:07.690 best way that I can describe it, it was as if 00:13:07.679 --> 00:13:09.879 All the questions I'd ever had in my life were 00:13:09.879 --> 00:13:13.639 answered in sort of this instant of this information. 00:13:14.220 --> 00:13:17.039 And that one point was love. Love was the answer 00:13:17.039 --> 00:13:21.080 to everything. At that second, I felt permeated 00:13:21.080 --> 00:13:25.179 with this divine, blissful love. It was ecstatic. 00:13:25.399 --> 00:13:28.519 It was everything. It was everything I'd ever 00:13:28.519 --> 00:13:32.139 need, ever wanted, ever desired. I could exist 00:13:32.139 --> 00:13:36.370 there eternally and be completely content. Okay, 00:13:36.509 --> 00:13:39.090 let's pause there for a second. I want to ask 00:13:39.090 --> 00:13:41.629 some questions about what's happened so far. 00:13:42.330 --> 00:13:44.629 So hold your train of thought. We were talking 00:13:44.629 --> 00:13:49.409 about love. I don't get that the black particles 00:13:49.409 --> 00:13:52.250 that you said as you were looking down were rising. 00:13:52.669 --> 00:13:54.250 That's something I don't think I've heard before. 00:13:54.309 --> 00:13:57.409 Tell me a little bit more about that. The best 00:13:57.409 --> 00:14:00.990 way to describe them were like little tiny black 00:14:00.990 --> 00:14:04.129 dots and they were coming from the body below. 00:14:04.320 --> 00:14:07.299 The majority of them were from the chest area, 00:14:07.360 --> 00:14:09.320 but there were some from the head and some from 00:14:09.320 --> 00:14:14.100 the gut. And they all just moved on their own 00:14:14.100 --> 00:14:18.259 in sort of like unison up to where my vision 00:14:18.259 --> 00:14:21.679 was, where I could see. But I was not anything. 00:14:21.799 --> 00:14:26.679 I was not in any physical form. I was just there. 00:14:26.820 --> 00:14:31.679 I was just energy. I believe that, well, I'll 00:14:31.679 --> 00:14:34.320 sort of say this at this point. My near -death 00:14:34.320 --> 00:14:38.820 experience was created by me, by my consciousness, 00:14:39.379 --> 00:14:43.519 and by universal consciousness source, God, whatever 00:14:43.519 --> 00:14:47.679 you want to call it, in unison, in tandem, in 00:14:47.679 --> 00:14:52.440 working with one another, in order for me to 00:14:52.440 --> 00:14:57.200 have this experience so that I could come back 00:14:57.200 --> 00:15:00.759 here to the body, sort of grow as a human in 00:15:00.759 --> 00:15:05.690 this body from it. and then share with the world 00:15:05.690 --> 00:15:10.909 what it was that I experienced in the efforts 00:15:10.909 --> 00:15:15.029 or the ultimate goal of helping humanity in some 00:15:15.029 --> 00:15:18.250 way. You mentioned being pulled from, I think 00:15:18.250 --> 00:15:21.690 it was from your left side by it. What's the 00:15:21.690 --> 00:15:27.529 it? It was a force. couldn't identify it, didn't 00:15:27.529 --> 00:15:29.909 have a desire to identify it, didn't matter what 00:15:29.909 --> 00:15:33.289 it was, but it was a force greater than my desire 00:15:33.289 --> 00:15:38.370 to stay. It was something that, it felt neutral, 00:15:38.629 --> 00:15:42.490 but it felt strong. I call it intuitive feeling, 00:15:42.690 --> 00:15:46.110 but I was just pure consciousness. So it was 00:15:46.110 --> 00:15:49.250 just my consciousness understood without having 00:15:49.250 --> 00:15:52.990 to have a human explanation for all of it that 00:15:52.990 --> 00:15:55.879 I needed to go. And I would love to know more 00:15:55.879 --> 00:15:59.159 about the download of info. I have a guess, the 00:15:59.159 --> 00:16:01.460 question that I'm going to ask, I think I know 00:16:01.460 --> 00:16:05.639 the answer already, but do you know everything 00:16:05.639 --> 00:16:08.179 that was downloaded to you? Do you remember all 00:16:08.179 --> 00:16:10.919 of it? You said the answer is to all your questions. 00:16:11.600 --> 00:16:16.059 Yeah. No, I don't. The one thing that I guess 00:16:16.059 --> 00:16:20.820 stood out was there's absolutely a higher reason, 00:16:20.899 --> 00:16:24.620 purpose for absolutely everything. It doesn't 00:16:24.620 --> 00:16:26.759 matter what you're talking about. That's the 00:16:26.759 --> 00:16:29.259 one thing I already knew going in. I already 00:16:29.259 --> 00:16:32.360 understood that, but that confirmed it for me. 00:16:32.639 --> 00:16:36.539 That's just one example. And I feel like in all 00:16:36.539 --> 00:16:39.980 the years that I've lived back in this body again, 00:16:39.980 --> 00:16:44.120 in this life, in this world, I've come to understand 00:16:44.120 --> 00:16:48.740 the things that I know intuitively to be true. 00:16:49.240 --> 00:16:54.519 I believe I feel came from that experience that 00:16:54.519 --> 00:16:58.440 download. So I mean, that's where for me, intuition 00:16:58.440 --> 00:17:02.620 is the highest form of sort of checking to see 00:17:02.620 --> 00:17:05.599 if something is right or wrong for me. It's all 00:17:05.599 --> 00:17:09.519 about how I feel. I believe my DNA was restructured 00:17:09.519 --> 00:17:14.259 during my experience. Wow. Part of that restructuring 00:17:14.259 --> 00:17:18.519 was this sort of information that I have and 00:17:18.519 --> 00:17:21.839 it's helped guide me in my life and helps me 00:17:21.839 --> 00:17:26.200 to not get upset about politics and the state 00:17:26.200 --> 00:17:29.460 of the world and all of that because there's 00:17:29.460 --> 00:17:32.559 much bigger things at play here. Yeah, it just 00:17:32.559 --> 00:17:35.299 doesn't matter as much as we think it does. Okay, 00:17:35.319 --> 00:17:38.440 let's get back to where you were. You were talking 00:17:38.440 --> 00:17:42.099 about love being the answer to everything. Explain 00:17:42.099 --> 00:17:45.660 and keep moving on from there. Okay. Love, love 00:17:45.660 --> 00:17:48.039 is it. It doesn't matter again what we're talking 00:17:48.039 --> 00:17:52.819 about. Everything is love in its various forms. 00:17:53.140 --> 00:17:55.759 For me, I can choose to see that or I don't have 00:17:55.759 --> 00:17:58.660 to see it. I can choose to be in my ego and see 00:17:58.660 --> 00:18:01.900 things as separate as not love. In that state 00:18:01.900 --> 00:18:04.779 I was in, it was just everything all encompassed. 00:18:04.779 --> 00:18:07.579 And I felt like when I felt that love, I felt 00:18:07.579 --> 00:18:12.240 the eternity of it, the infiniteness of it. It's 00:18:12.240 --> 00:18:15.900 timeless, boundless. and it expanded everywhere. 00:18:16.000 --> 00:18:19.519 I expanded out with it everywhere, in all directions, 00:18:20.240 --> 00:18:23.539 eternally. There was no end to me, or to it. 00:18:23.980 --> 00:18:26.640 Quickly after that, there was a light off to 00:18:26.640 --> 00:18:29.279 my right, a little dot of a white light. It was 00:18:29.279 --> 00:18:31.220 drawing me to it, it wanted me to come to it, 00:18:31.220 --> 00:18:33.000 so I started to move in that direction. As I 00:18:33.000 --> 00:18:37.440 got closer, the light became bigger and more 00:18:37.440 --> 00:18:39.819 of a circle, and it was sort of like a cloudy 00:18:39.819 --> 00:18:43.069 opening. And in the opening there were these 00:18:43.069 --> 00:18:46.349 shadow beings there. And in the front was a shadow 00:18:46.349 --> 00:18:49.890 being of a little boy. And what I could make 00:18:49.890 --> 00:18:54.109 out was he had overalls on and a, like a straw 00:18:54.109 --> 00:18:58.190 hat with a wide brim and he needed my help. So 00:18:58.190 --> 00:19:00.730 I wanted to help him. I started to move into 00:19:00.730 --> 00:19:03.369 that space. And as I moved into the opening, 00:19:03.549 --> 00:19:05.829 all the shadow beings, the taller ones, like 00:19:05.829 --> 00:19:08.869 I call them adults, but the taller shadow beings 00:19:08.869 --> 00:19:11.819 sort of fanned out. on my left, like in a line. 00:19:12.420 --> 00:19:15.619 And I went to what felt like the center of the 00:19:15.619 --> 00:19:17.779 space, and it was still like a misty, cloudy 00:19:17.779 --> 00:19:22.640 atmosphere. And I felt all of these shadow beings 00:19:22.640 --> 00:19:25.619 needed my help, wanted my help, wanted me to 00:19:25.619 --> 00:19:28.839 help them. And I felt, yes, I want to help you 00:19:28.839 --> 00:19:32.539 all. And they started to come at me at that point 00:19:32.539 --> 00:19:35.000 and dart away, come at me and dart away from 00:19:35.000 --> 00:19:38.579 all directions. And what I quickly realized was 00:19:38.579 --> 00:19:40.779 that they were actually, they wanted my energy. 00:19:41.140 --> 00:19:45.220 They wanted me, not just my help, but they wanted 00:19:45.220 --> 00:19:48.380 me. I started to feel like I was diminishing 00:19:48.380 --> 00:19:51.339 there. And if I had stayed, I would have just 00:19:51.339 --> 00:19:54.779 given, almost given myself away to all of these 00:19:54.779 --> 00:19:58.220 entities that needed me, needed my energy and 00:19:58.220 --> 00:20:01.599 sacrificed myself. And I chose, no, I want to 00:20:01.599 --> 00:20:05.880 leave now. And it wasn't scary. It wasn't frightening 00:20:05.880 --> 00:20:08.819 in any way. It was completely neutral. As soon 00:20:08.819 --> 00:20:11.259 as I felt I wanted to go, I wanted to leave, 00:20:11.539 --> 00:20:13.819 I was pulled out of there, again, to the left. 00:20:14.299 --> 00:20:17.359 Pulled out, back in the dense particle space. 00:20:17.819 --> 00:20:21.799 That was very brief flash moment. And then I 00:20:21.799 --> 00:20:23.519 went through a less distinct opening. It was 00:20:23.519 --> 00:20:26.900 more particulate matter, circular again, but 00:20:26.900 --> 00:20:29.279 then I merged through it into this gorgeous Eden. 00:20:29.549 --> 00:20:33.670 scene with rolling green hills and a rock waterfall 00:20:33.670 --> 00:20:37.170 and dense evergreen forest and just beautiful 00:20:37.170 --> 00:20:39.690 yellow flowers span out in front of me and it 00:20:39.690 --> 00:20:42.549 was just absolutely gorgeous and I merged with 00:20:42.549 --> 00:20:45.450 all of it. It was as if I merged with all of 00:20:45.450 --> 00:20:48.509 nature. I became the flowers and the trees and 00:20:48.509 --> 00:20:52.190 the water and the rocks and the sky, grass. It 00:20:52.190 --> 00:20:54.970 was bliss, again, still blissful, blissful feeling, 00:20:55.150 --> 00:20:57.869 blissful love. And then I was flanked on both 00:20:57.869 --> 00:21:03.609 sides. By these tall beige drapey kind of humanoid 00:21:03.609 --> 00:21:06.130 figures. They didn't really have faces They just 00:21:06.130 --> 00:21:09.890 I felt them and they were feeling to me and what 00:21:09.890 --> 00:21:13.210 they felt to me was you can stay here You can 00:21:13.210 --> 00:21:15.829 go to what comes beyond this or you can go back 00:21:15.829 --> 00:21:18.730 after I left my body I didn't have any concept 00:21:18.730 --> 00:21:22.390 of my human life any memory. No, I didn't have 00:21:22.390 --> 00:21:26.730 an identity as Christa. I was still my consciousness 00:21:26.730 --> 00:21:30.819 without a name for a moment paused, because I 00:21:30.819 --> 00:21:33.279 could have stayed in this Eden, too, eternally. 00:21:33.539 --> 00:21:35.819 Didn't know why I was choosing, but I chose to 00:21:35.819 --> 00:21:38.839 go back. As soon as I felt that, back to these 00:21:38.839 --> 00:21:42.039 beings, I started to move backwards. And they 00:21:42.039 --> 00:21:44.619 turned, as I was moving, they turned and communicated 00:21:44.619 --> 00:21:47.220 to me, well, if you go back, you need to share 00:21:47.220 --> 00:21:49.859 what you learned here. And I agreed. The next 00:21:49.859 --> 00:21:55.180 thing I knew, I was waking up in the ICU. Wow, 00:21:55.180 --> 00:21:57.730 that's really cool. That's a lot. One thing that 00:21:57.730 --> 00:22:00.069 I don't understand, and I'm sure you've thought 00:22:00.069 --> 00:22:02.029 about it, so maybe you can explain it to me, 00:22:02.309 --> 00:22:05.990 is if you didn't feel an attachment to that body 00:22:05.990 --> 00:22:09.650 or even that that was Krista, why did you choose 00:22:09.650 --> 00:22:12.289 to go back, do you think? Well, I think it's 00:22:12.289 --> 00:22:16.170 not just one thing. It's sort of like a multitude 00:22:16.170 --> 00:22:20.109 of things. I believe that I chose to come back 00:22:20.109 --> 00:22:24.470 to the life I was in and continue that life as 00:22:24.470 --> 00:22:28.640 the Krista. that I was for the most part. And 00:22:28.640 --> 00:22:31.940 part of that reason for coming back was that 00:22:31.940 --> 00:22:34.779 all of my family wanted me back. I don't know 00:22:34.779 --> 00:22:36.960 if Maggie did, my daughter, because, you know, 00:22:36.980 --> 00:22:40.099 she was just born, but she probably had, on some 00:22:40.099 --> 00:22:42.579 level, had a desire for her mother. All of that 00:22:42.579 --> 00:22:47.539 energy pulling me back, I believe, did contribute 00:22:47.539 --> 00:22:50.920 to that choice on some, you know, some level. 00:22:51.210 --> 00:22:55.329 You know, I'm so grateful. I chose to come back 00:22:55.329 --> 00:22:59.609 because this life has had its ups and downs in 00:22:59.609 --> 00:23:02.210 the human form, but it's been pretty, pretty 00:23:02.210 --> 00:23:04.670 amazing. And I want to hear a lot more about 00:23:04.670 --> 00:23:07.690 what you've learned and how you've applied that 00:23:07.690 --> 00:23:11.430 since then. But one last thing, what you termed 00:23:11.430 --> 00:23:14.329 as the Eden scene. Could you give us any bit 00:23:14.329 --> 00:23:17.349 more detail about that? What did it look like, 00:23:17.509 --> 00:23:21.180 feel like, smell like? Oh, okay. Well, it felt 00:23:21.180 --> 00:23:24.940 completely blissful. It felt completely perfect. 00:23:25.579 --> 00:23:28.779 The colors were very bright, brighter than normal, 00:23:28.940 --> 00:23:33.160 but not excessive. I didn't have any sense of 00:23:33.160 --> 00:23:37.900 smells or sound in my experience. I just felt 00:23:37.900 --> 00:23:44.420 in unity with all of nature, all of the elements. 00:23:44.759 --> 00:23:50.069 I was it, and it was me. There was no disconnect 00:23:50.069 --> 00:23:53.809 there. We were fluidly like a part of one another. 00:23:54.289 --> 00:23:57.170 All of the trees and grass and flowers and water 00:23:57.170 --> 00:24:00.609 and rocks and sky and sun. Everybody that has 00:24:00.609 --> 00:24:04.109 an NDE comes back changed, but not everybody 00:24:04.109 --> 00:24:07.349 describes it as having their DNA actually changed. 00:24:08.069 --> 00:24:10.650 Describe that a little bit and some of the changes 00:24:10.650 --> 00:24:15.279 that you felt after. Okay, so before I... I had 00:24:15.279 --> 00:24:18.660 my daughter. I had taken my bores as a PA, graduated, 00:24:18.720 --> 00:24:20.880 officially graduated PA school at the end of 00:24:20.880 --> 00:24:24.960 June. I had her in July. And I was all about 00:24:24.960 --> 00:24:29.059 the science, all about knowing absolutely everything 00:24:29.059 --> 00:24:33.160 so that I could best help my patients. I prided 00:24:33.160 --> 00:24:37.059 myself on the facts. You know, I knew, I just 00:24:37.059 --> 00:24:39.779 knew it all. And I was like really proud of myself 00:24:39.779 --> 00:24:42.259 and knew I was going to do a great job and I 00:24:42.259 --> 00:24:44.420 couldn't wait to start taking care of people. 00:24:44.569 --> 00:24:49.509 After I came back, I didn't remember that I was 00:24:49.509 --> 00:24:52.430 a P .A. student. I didn't remember I'd graduated. 00:24:52.789 --> 00:24:55.529 I didn't even remember I had had a baby. I didn't 00:24:55.529 --> 00:24:58.930 remember my pregnancy. So there was that sort 00:24:58.930 --> 00:25:03.769 of lag in recovery of my brain functioning. It 00:25:03.769 --> 00:25:06.849 was sort of like I liken it to layers of an onion 00:25:06.849 --> 00:25:11.029 being peeled where it reveals more and more each 00:25:11.029 --> 00:25:14.539 time you peel a layer. And for me, that tended 00:25:14.539 --> 00:25:17.880 to happen after sleeping. I would wake up and 00:25:17.880 --> 00:25:21.180 I would feel a little bit more like the old Krista 00:25:21.180 --> 00:25:24.339 because I was blissed out. I had zero anxiety. 00:25:24.480 --> 00:25:28.059 I was type A personality before. I was completely 00:25:28.059 --> 00:25:31.559 the opposite when I woke up. There was not a 00:25:31.559 --> 00:25:34.420 care in the world. Everything was wonderful. 00:25:35.039 --> 00:25:38.220 Yet, when I got home with my daughter, my mom 00:25:38.220 --> 00:25:41.210 was here. And she helped for a few weeks, and 00:25:41.210 --> 00:25:43.710 she watched me. She let me do things. She watched 00:25:43.710 --> 00:25:46.670 me and made sure I was OK. But she's like, you 00:25:46.670 --> 00:25:49.849 just seem to know what to do, is how she phrased 00:25:49.849 --> 00:25:54.690 it. I worked out of my intuition. That was my 00:25:54.690 --> 00:25:57.349 reference point for doing the next thing that 00:25:57.349 --> 00:26:00.869 I did. I just followed my intuition. I didn't 00:26:00.869 --> 00:26:04.329 see the need for speaking because I felt everybody 00:26:04.329 --> 00:26:07.569 knew what I was feeling. So they would, you know. 00:26:07.789 --> 00:26:10.170 pick up on that. And that's how I communicated. 00:26:10.690 --> 00:26:13.549 And then I slowly, you know, as time went on, 00:26:13.650 --> 00:26:15.930 the weeks went by, and I would wake up and I 00:26:15.930 --> 00:26:19.150 would feel more like the old Krista. I realized 00:26:19.150 --> 00:26:22.609 like, I need to communicate like this or that, 00:26:22.750 --> 00:26:25.769 you know, by speaking it. And they thought maybe 00:26:25.769 --> 00:26:29.289 I had like a problem talking from the event, 00:26:29.529 --> 00:26:32.730 because it was eight minutes without any, any 00:26:32.730 --> 00:26:36.789 intervention. They stopped CPR to deliver my 00:26:36.789 --> 00:26:39.369 daughter and control the bleeding I had. So, 00:26:39.589 --> 00:26:41.250 you know, they thought maybe it was brain damage. 00:26:41.349 --> 00:26:43.250 They weren't sure. They were told I had a 50 00:26:43.250 --> 00:26:45.849 -50 chance of requiring 24 -hour care for the 00:26:45.849 --> 00:26:48.329 rest of my life. They had no idea what kind of 00:26:48.329 --> 00:26:51.130 state I would be in when I came to. But I was 00:26:51.130 --> 00:26:54.950 36 hours intubated in the ICU. And then they 00:26:54.950 --> 00:26:57.430 started to wean me off of the medication that 00:26:57.430 --> 00:26:59.450 they had to sedate me to keep me from pulling 00:26:59.450 --> 00:27:02.440 the tube out. And then... they started to assess 00:27:02.440 --> 00:27:06.480 my functioning. And I had memory issues. I was 00:27:06.480 --> 00:27:10.259 a different personality in terms of my drive, 00:27:10.380 --> 00:27:14.380 my ambition to get things done, which I was very, 00:27:14.380 --> 00:27:17.519 again, type A. I was completely the opposite. 00:27:17.720 --> 00:27:21.599 So I think that was a big part of the restructuring. 00:27:21.599 --> 00:27:26.759 Not only that, but I have an ability to understand 00:27:26.759 --> 00:27:31.559 things from a perspective where I'm not quite 00:27:31.559 --> 00:27:35.440 sure that I would have had otherwise. I used 00:27:35.440 --> 00:27:38.519 to, like, you know, get colds and illnesses and 00:27:38.519 --> 00:27:41.940 whatnot and get pretty sick before. I don't now. 00:27:42.259 --> 00:27:45.660 I'm really quite healthy, with the exception 00:27:45.660 --> 00:27:49.319 of a small issue with blood pressure, but that's 00:27:49.319 --> 00:27:52.000 from nine years in the emergency room. I feel 00:27:52.000 --> 00:27:57.660 like I became someone that was just genetically... 00:27:57.640 --> 00:28:01.460 I feel like I had like an upgrade almost, like 00:28:01.460 --> 00:28:04.759 a restructuring. I don't feel like a walk -in, 00:28:04.920 --> 00:28:10.039 but I do feel like I am, I don't know, structurally 00:28:10.039 --> 00:28:13.039 like a more sound human, I guess I can say. I 00:28:13.039 --> 00:28:15.579 don't know, it's hard to describe. That is so 00:28:15.579 --> 00:28:18.460 interesting. Most people feel like their personality 00:28:18.460 --> 00:28:23.059 has changed a lot, but physically, that's very 00:28:23.059 --> 00:28:25.980 unusual. That's interesting. I'm going to ask 00:28:25.980 --> 00:28:27.880 you a personal question you don't have to answer 00:28:27.880 --> 00:28:31.099 if you don't want to. Did all of these changes 00:28:31.099 --> 00:28:33.640 have anything to do with your divorce? Because 00:28:33.640 --> 00:28:36.440 you mentioned you have a second husband now. 00:28:37.299 --> 00:28:41.059 Yes, I mean, but I feel like what if I didn't 00:28:41.059 --> 00:28:45.039 have a near -death experience and how would my 00:28:45.039 --> 00:28:47.000 first marriage have played out? And I wonder 00:28:47.000 --> 00:28:50.299 if we would still be together today, only because 00:28:50.299 --> 00:28:54.640 there were so many external factors. my ex -husband 00:28:54.640 --> 00:28:57.819 was a touring musician, our entire marriage. 00:28:58.160 --> 00:29:02.839 We met when we were 20 and 21 and grew up together. 00:29:03.220 --> 00:29:06.920 We were married together for 22 years before 00:29:06.920 --> 00:29:10.599 we separated. But I do believe that the acceleration 00:29:10.599 --> 00:29:14.759 of my starting to live my truth within myself, 00:29:14.980 --> 00:29:17.279 because I had still tried to integrate back into 00:29:17.279 --> 00:29:19.539 the world, back into this role, like... into 00:29:19.539 --> 00:29:23.220 this role as a PA and Western medicine and all 00:29:23.220 --> 00:29:26.059 of that and just getting along in the world. 00:29:26.259 --> 00:29:29.039 And I just, it didn't feel like it fit. There 00:29:29.039 --> 00:29:33.759 was this like greater sort of calling I had of, 00:29:34.140 --> 00:29:36.119 no, pay attention to this. It's like, it's about 00:29:36.119 --> 00:29:38.920 the love. It's about the love. And I ignored 00:29:38.920 --> 00:29:40.839 that for so many years. And when I finally started 00:29:40.839 --> 00:29:43.819 to focus on just loving myself, coming from that 00:29:43.819 --> 00:29:46.140 point of view, all of my interactions with my 00:29:46.140 --> 00:29:48.460 patients, with my colleagues, with my family, 00:29:49.079 --> 00:29:51.640 That's when my ex -husband started to sort of 00:29:51.640 --> 00:29:54.519 go through his own transition in his life. We 00:29:54.519 --> 00:29:56.319 just came to a point where we looked at each 00:29:56.319 --> 00:29:59.799 other. We're like really good friends. And we're 00:29:59.799 --> 00:30:02.400 like, you know what? It's probably best if we 00:30:02.400 --> 00:30:04.980 live our lives separately. Him and my ex -mother 00:30:04.980 --> 00:30:07.900 -in -law come for holidays and we have our daughter 00:30:07.900 --> 00:30:11.519 together and we all get along. I love him. He's 00:30:11.519 --> 00:30:16.259 a great person, but he wasn't my person as time 00:30:16.259 --> 00:30:20.319 went on anymore. I wasn't his so it was just 00:30:20.319 --> 00:30:23.839 kind of like okay. Well, let's let's go our separate 00:30:23.839 --> 00:30:26.720 ways and still be really good friends What's 00:30:26.720 --> 00:30:29.460 it like now being married to someone who also 00:30:29.460 --> 00:30:34.039 is an experiencer? Well, it's fabulous because 00:30:34.039 --> 00:30:37.220 well, not only is Ainsley like an amazing person 00:30:37.220 --> 00:30:40.680 human being but he really gets it and we are 00:30:40.680 --> 00:30:43.859 on the same sort of I wouldn't say level of understanding 00:30:43.859 --> 00:30:45.380 because it's not like there's higher or lower 00:30:45.380 --> 00:30:48.190 levels. It's just the depth of understanding 00:30:48.190 --> 00:30:52.210 of who we are and why we're here. It's fabulous 00:30:52.210 --> 00:30:56.349 because we can talk about all this stuff. It's 00:30:56.349 --> 00:31:00.990 very comfortable, wonderful, expansive. I'm always 00:31:00.990 --> 00:31:05.049 growing as a person with him. Yeah, it's been 00:31:05.049 --> 00:31:09.430 such a gift. That's awesome. Okay, winding down 00:31:09.430 --> 00:31:13.150 here. A couple last questions. Number one, how 00:31:13.150 --> 00:31:15.690 much fear of death do you have right now? I'm 00:31:15.690 --> 00:31:17.690 not afraid to die at all. I always quote this 00:31:17.690 --> 00:31:20.890 Woody Allen line that he gives. I'm not afraid 00:31:20.890 --> 00:31:22.329 to die. I just don't want to be there when it 00:31:22.329 --> 00:31:25.130 happens. But that's assuming it's going to be 00:31:25.130 --> 00:31:27.309 something horrible. And death is a beautiful 00:31:27.309 --> 00:31:30.210 transition, my gosh. You know, we talk about 00:31:30.210 --> 00:31:33.549 birth, and it's the same for death. And I've 00:31:33.549 --> 00:31:37.309 been in the presence of the time when some of 00:31:37.309 --> 00:31:39.910 my patients have transitioned. And it gives me 00:31:39.910 --> 00:31:42.839 chills just talking about it. I've gone to the 00:31:42.839 --> 00:31:44.839 other side and come back. It's like, it's still, 00:31:44.900 --> 00:31:49.099 it is a, it is a gorgeous, gorgeous process. 00:31:49.640 --> 00:31:55.119 And I, I hope that I am in a place when I do 00:31:55.119 --> 00:32:00.720 transition where I am with my family, because 00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:05.160 I would love to just have that moment where I 00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:07.700 get to say, bye, I'll see you on the other side. 00:32:08.089 --> 00:32:10.690 But I've never really gone so, you know, watch 00:32:10.690 --> 00:32:12.970 out for me. I'll still be visiting and letting 00:32:12.970 --> 00:32:16.690 you know I'm around It'd be great to be in that 00:32:16.690 --> 00:32:20.529 much control Yeah, when you transition over to 00:32:20.529 --> 00:32:22.829 know here it comes so I can say the very very 00:32:22.829 --> 00:32:26.670 last things smile Take a step through that door 00:32:26.670 --> 00:32:30.369 Yeah Yeah, how do we bottle that up? That'd be 00:32:30.369 --> 00:32:33.910 a good one. Lastly for those that maybe need 00:32:33.910 --> 00:32:37.480 a little bit of a Oh, just a message of hope 00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:39.920 today. They don't know whether they should believe 00:32:39.920 --> 00:32:41.819 in the afterlife or not. What do you have to 00:32:41.819 --> 00:32:45.359 say to them? Well, I can just share from my experience 00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:48.819 that we don't ever really die. We transition 00:32:48.819 --> 00:32:51.460 form. We just move from one state of energy to 00:32:51.460 --> 00:32:55.880 another. What we leave behind is this temporal 00:32:55.880 --> 00:32:59.839 existence where everything is transitory and 00:32:59.839 --> 00:33:03.740 we go to another realm, whatever we choose, and 00:33:03.740 --> 00:33:06.609 we get to experience what we experience there. 00:33:06.990 --> 00:33:09.690 We have free will. We have the ability to choose. 00:33:10.230 --> 00:33:15.069 We do get to experience the things that we imagine 00:33:15.069 --> 00:33:21.029 death is like, because our expectations and our 00:33:21.029 --> 00:33:25.170 beliefs, they do play a part in our experience. 00:33:25.230 --> 00:33:29.829 For me, it was law of attraction in action, my 00:33:29.829 --> 00:33:32.849 entire NDE. That was the overarching energy with 00:33:32.849 --> 00:33:35.720 love. Krista, thank you a ton for being with 00:33:35.720 --> 00:33:38.799 me today. I appreciate it. Thank you. 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