1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:08,400 From the time that they pronounced me deaf was a good 45 minutes. 2 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:13,440 They cut my clothes and then they paddled my heart, my heart had stopped. 3 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:18,120 And I could see people screaming and crying, but I didn't realize that was actually my 4 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,320 physical body because I was somewhere else. 5 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:27,400 The only thing that I could feel, if you could imagine, absolute love and peace, there wasn't 6 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,400 anything else to be felt. 7 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,560 I was greeted by people I'd known in the past. 8 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:34,240 I'm back home again. 9 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:39,240 Incredibly safe and felt at home. 10 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:44,160 Welcome, welcome to Round Trip Death, everybody, and welcome to our very special guest this 11 00:00:44,160 --> 00:00:48,480 morning, Susie Pearl, all the way from Spain. 12 00:00:48,480 --> 00:00:50,280 How is Spain today, Susie? 13 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:56,960 Well, as I see around the world all these really incredible weather situations, I'm 14 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:02,280 really blessed to say that it's sunny and warm in Ibiza, but not over warm. 15 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:07,520 It's just a good temperature for considering early days in January. 16 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:14,080 Having just set you up as being in Spain and then people just heard your British accent, 17 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,280 tell us a little bit about you so people know what's going on. 18 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:18,880 Yeah, I'd love to. 19 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:25,600 So I'm from England, near Cambridge, where the university is. 20 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:30,960 I've always been interested in psychology and science and the mind, really. 21 00:01:30,960 --> 00:01:37,080 I worked a lot with Dr. Richard Bandler, who invented neuro-linguistic programming, and 22 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,160 from him and Paul McKenna, who I worked with for many years. 23 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:47,360 I learned a lot about the mind and how we can use it and power it and connect with our 24 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:51,280 feelings and words and emotions and use that to change our state. 25 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:55,880 So I really had a career looking at psychology. 26 00:01:55,880 --> 00:02:02,240 And then in a different phase of my life, I was looking at, I had a celebrity PR agency 27 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:07,880 and I looked after a lot of big names like names that we all know, Madonna and the Spice 28 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,760 Girls and Michael Jackson and people like this. 29 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:15,480 I've had this very colorful life, very stressful life actually. 30 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:22,520 I've just been writing my book about my NDE and in that, I'm doing a lot of storytelling 31 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,400 about my career and my life. 32 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:30,200 And I realized writing it now in my later years, I'm thinking, my goodness, how did 33 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:35,720 I actually have all that stamina to do all that traveling around and being in Hollywood 34 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:42,360 and going to all these amazing theaters and gigs and looking after these very, let's 35 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,320 say, demanding artists. 36 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:49,880 But I got to hang out with a lot of real geniuses of our time. 37 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,360 And for that, I'm really grateful. 38 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:59,240 And I noticed that with these geniuses, there comes a lot of insecurities and anxieties about 39 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:03,320 life when they are surrounded by yes people. 40 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:07,800 And my job was to help them to navigate the world. 41 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,880 So I've had an interesting time. 42 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,200 And then I got really burnt out with all of that. 43 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:21,560 And I decided to leave London where all my network is and was rather, and came to this 44 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:26,800 little island floating in the middle of the MED, which is well known for the mystical side 45 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:34,880 of things and the tracks, shamans and healers and very interesting people, which was a great 46 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,600 appeal to me to live somewhere like this. 47 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:44,400 And I ended up in a forest here living very simple life after a very hectic life in show 48 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,680 business and flying around the world, very busy. 49 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,480 So it's a real contrast. 50 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,200 And I'm very grateful for all parts. 51 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:53,800 That sounds awesome. 52 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:54,800 Thank you for the intro. 53 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,880 All right, near death experience time. 54 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,640 We're not going to beat around the bush any longer. 55 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:04,240 Five years ago, you were diagnosed with something really scary. 56 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,240 Give us an idea of what was going on. 57 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:07,240 Yeah. 58 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:12,280 So I was meeting a friend for coffee, as we always did in my local village. 59 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,400 And I couldn't remember the way. 60 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,600 And I got lost and I bumped my car on the way. 61 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,720 I ran into the lamp post coming out the driver, et cetera. 62 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:23,200 And my neighbor said, there's something all right. 63 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:28,880 She hiked me off for a bio resonance appointment and they checked my brain and said there was 64 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:30,120 something going on. 65 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,680 I was subsequently diagnosed with a massive brain tumor. 66 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,400 And I was given three weeks to live. 67 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:43,960 That's obviously shocking news, but deep in my soul, I knew that I was going to be okay 68 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:48,080 and that I was going to live to tell the tale. 69 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:52,000 And it was really only me and my son who believed that I was going to get through. 70 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,000 Everyone else thought I was going. 71 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:59,520 What it did do was give me a reference point for learning to live, thinking I only had 72 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,320 a very limited amount of time to live. 73 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,160 Can I just ask a question before you go on? 74 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:06,560 That has got to be shocking. 75 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:12,000 I mean, you think you're fine and all of a sudden you're told three weeks to live. 76 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:17,680 What does that do to your, I shouldn't say to your brain because it's brain cancer, but 77 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:24,120 to your mindset, do you all of a sudden switch from thinking work to family or just what 78 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:25,600 happened internally? 79 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:33,640 Well, I'd spent many years working in the area of mind, hypnosis and expanding possibilities 80 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:38,720 and belief systems through my work in NLP and theta healing and things like this. 81 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:44,400 So I had learned the power of being positive and keeping everything in the positive. 82 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:48,280 I was driving everyone mad when I was ill by being so positive. 83 00:05:48,280 --> 00:05:50,040 I said, look, I'm going to get out of this. 84 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:51,200 I know I am. 85 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:58,360 I've got my magic toolbox and I was thinking about visualization, affirmations, meditation, 86 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:02,200 prayer, all of these protocols that I was familiar with. 87 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:06,160 I was going to pull them in and use them to the max. 88 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,160 And I believe that that would help me and get me through. 89 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:14,520 Of course, my belief system didn't match most other belief systems around me. 90 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:19,320 My family were pulling their hair out and going, oh my God, she's really lost it because 91 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:24,400 she's not accepting that she's very, very ill and she's not going to make it. 92 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:28,520 My son, who was young then, he was just turning into a teenager. 93 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:34,440 Well, he was early in his teens and he hadn't got reference points for being a grown-up. 94 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,320 He was still really a child. 95 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:47,120 And he, like I, decided we were going to be very radical about this illness. 96 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:54,360 And when I checked in my heart, I felt there's going to be a good solution here. 97 00:06:54,360 --> 00:07:01,800 And I actually had, when I was in hospital, I went to hospital in Ibiza. 98 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:09,160 Then I was transferred to hospital in Cambridge, near where I grew up, my home, so that we 99 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:13,680 could speak clearly the language because I had to make some big decisions. 100 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,600 We had to make big decisions. 101 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,920 And I didn't want a second language to get in the way. 102 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:25,880 So I went back to the UK and wonderful nurses and doctors there who were looking after me. 103 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:30,840 And I really felt that I was in the best place I could possibly be. 104 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,920 And I had faith and trust that I was going to be looked after. 105 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:41,760 And as I was going into, one day I was having my third brain, the first brain scan showed 106 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:43,840 this humongous tumor. 107 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:49,160 And as I was going into the scanner, I remember praying and saying, why am I going through 108 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:50,560 this? 109 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,360 What is the purpose of this? 110 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,800 I understand there will be a divine purpose to this. 111 00:07:55,800 --> 00:08:00,880 And I got very clearly downloaded into my mind. 112 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:02,280 And I got this information. 113 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,760 It said that you're going to have three scouts. 114 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,960 The first one is expect really bad news. 115 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,720 The second one is going to be much improved. 116 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,320 The third one is going to be really clear. 117 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,880 And you're going to be fully healed. 118 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:19,640 This is your storyline. 119 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:23,600 And you're being given this because we want you to write a book and do a movie. 120 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,120 There'll be a movie. 121 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:32,280 And this is to really inspire people about what happens when we as humans die and you're 122 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,280 going to find out. 123 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:35,760 And this was the information I was given. 124 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:41,000 And then I went into this cylindrical tube, this MRI scanner with all the loud noises and 125 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:45,560 the knocking to examine my brain for the first scan. 126 00:08:45,560 --> 00:08:50,960 And when I came out of that first scan, the doctor, I remember clearly coming into my 127 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:56,000 hospital room and saying to me, this does not look good. 128 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,720 This is very severe tumor you have. 129 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:06,440 And on my experience of 40 years in oncology, I expect you will have around three weeks. 130 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:14,280 So I suggest get your will written, get your family here immediately and we'll prepare 131 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:18,800 a program for you, medical treatment. 132 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:26,000 And I'm someone who didn't take aspirin or any sort of pills. 133 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,000 I was not interested in that. 134 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:36,320 I lived a life very clean eating, very sort of anti-tablets and all this sort of thing. 135 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:37,960 So I thought of having chemo. 136 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:39,440 Woof, blew my mind. 137 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,120 You know, blew my mind. 138 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:42,800 And I just thought I don't want to do that. 139 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,640 So I said to my family, I'm not doing it. 140 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:49,520 And my brother sat me down and said, look, we're really asking you as your brothers. 141 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,480 We want you to have the treatment. 142 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,720 So I said, okay, I will. 143 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:54,720 I just don't want to. 144 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:56,040 I will. 145 00:09:56,040 --> 00:10:01,680 And so I started on the chemo and lost all my hair and had a really severe difficult 146 00:10:01,680 --> 00:10:04,840 time as all cancer patients do. 147 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:11,040 But deep inside, I had this amazing belief that I would get through it. 148 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:16,440 When they gave me the results to the first scanner, I wasn't surprised that there were 149 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,200 spadneys because I'd been told about this by this. 150 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:24,360 It was a golden orb that came to me and it felt like golden angels were surrounding 151 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,640 me and supporting me. 152 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:30,800 At what point did you have a near-death experience? 153 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:32,040 What happened that turned the tables? 154 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,040 I mean, it had to have been something drastic. 155 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:36,200 Yeah. 156 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:41,040 So I spent a lot of time in my hospital room praying. 157 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:42,040 And I prayed. 158 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,640 I said, I have a young boy. 159 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,800 I want to continue my life. 160 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:49,280 I've got a lot of things to do. 161 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:50,280 I know that. 162 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:54,720 I was a writer anywhere, I'd written books about happiness and creativity and things 163 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,200 like this before. 164 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,720 So I said, I've got things to do. 165 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:00,560 I really, this is not my time. 166 00:11:00,560 --> 00:11:02,000 I really feel this is not my time. 167 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,440 So I was praying and affirming that I wanted my life. 168 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:09,520 I wanted to keep my life and be here. 169 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:15,440 One morning I sat on my bed and I think I was about to have some really heavy treatment. 170 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,840 Oh no, I remember. 171 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:21,560 I was in my hospital bed. 172 00:11:21,560 --> 00:11:27,040 The door swung open and there were three men at the door who I was not expecting. 173 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:34,040 This was my ex who I was at war with, had been at war with, and my two brothers. 174 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:40,440 And so all the men in my life who I had major issues with all arrived at the same time. 175 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,120 And I thought my higher self just went into overdrive. 176 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,120 I went, oh my God, this is very serious. 177 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,120 This is serious now. 178 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:49,840 Now these guys have arrived. 179 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:51,600 Things are getting serious. 180 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:57,560 And it was that day that I sat in my bed and I began to meditate. 181 00:11:57,560 --> 00:12:03,880 And I felt this gathering of my spirit come and I felt this worrying feeling. 182 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:09,200 And as I meditated I could feel this flow of my spirit and it was being tugged at the 183 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:13,120 top of my head, the crown of my head to come out. 184 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:17,800 And I had this feeling that my spirit was really on the move. 185 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:24,040 And I got this intuition, Suze, you're going to die today, but it's going to be okay. 186 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:27,880 So I got this information. 187 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:29,640 So I came out of my meditation. 188 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:34,520 I went over to the nurses station and I interrupted them early morning meeting and I said, ah, 189 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,080 it's my favorite nurse. 190 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:37,960 Excuse me, can I interrupt? 191 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:38,960 It's really important. 192 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:39,960 Suze, what's wrong? 193 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:43,840 I said, I'm going to die today and I want you to keep an eye on me because I know I'm 194 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:44,840 going today. 195 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:46,680 And they said, you're going to be fine. 196 00:12:46,680 --> 00:12:48,920 It will go you covered. 197 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:53,280 I said, yeah, okay, but I want you to really keep an eye on me today. 198 00:12:53,280 --> 00:13:01,000 So I kind of warned them about this and I went back onto my bed, sat down again and this 199 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:05,480 process began with the spirit tugging to leave my body. 200 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:09,880 I felt this tug I can best describe it as. 201 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:16,680 As my spirit was leaving, wanted to leave my body and I felt it leaving through the crown 202 00:13:16,680 --> 00:13:17,680 of my head. 203 00:13:17,680 --> 00:13:22,640 I was very familiar with feeling what I was feeling inside myself through my years of 204 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,280 meditation. 205 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:32,520 And then I felt my spirit gather and whoosh at the top of my head and I felt myself expand 206 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,080 and I went outside of my body. 207 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:41,760 Then I noticed that I was looking down on the shell of my body beneath whilst I was 208 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:45,400 up expanding into the universe. 209 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,440 And this is where it all got like a movie. 210 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:53,600 It's not like we are here talking now. 211 00:13:53,600 --> 00:14:01,480 The quality of what happened was kind of very difficult to put into words, but I was free. 212 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:05,240 I was free of my body that was very ill. 213 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:11,120 I, my spirit, was finally at liberty. 214 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:18,280 It was finally free and it wasn't constrained and confined to my body. 215 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:24,760 And I went floating around and I realized that something very unusual was happening 216 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,320 and I was without fear. 217 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,280 I had absolutely no fear. 218 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,600 I went traveling around this. 219 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:40,000 It felt like being in a Hollywood movie with the stars and the cosmos, this infinite space. 220 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,560 And I went on my little travels. 221 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,240 I felt free. 222 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:45,480 I felt a peace. 223 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,280 I felt very blissful. 224 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:48,520 I knew I was safe. 225 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,320 I knew I was looked after. 226 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,880 I knew I was out of my body. 227 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:56,640 I had a lot of information coming to me. 228 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:00,400 At one point I was given this choice. 229 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:05,080 I was told, you have a one time, I knew it was a one time choice. 230 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:10,480 I can't remember if they told me that or if I just hunched, had a hunch that this was 231 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:11,480 okay. 232 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:17,720 But I had an opportunity to decide one time, do you want to come back into your body or 233 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:19,720 do you want to stay here? 234 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:26,400 And if I had not got a son who I loved dearly, I probably would have chosen to stay because 235 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,520 it was glorious. 236 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:37,520 It was the most amount of freedom, bliss, unconditional love that I have ever felt in 237 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,560 my life. 238 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:44,840 And I didn't even have a reference point for how beautiful this feeling was. 239 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:48,000 So part of me thought, this is so nice. 240 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:49,440 I don't want to go back. 241 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:54,280 But the big part of me as a mum said, yes, I want to go back. 242 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,280 I want to be there for my son. 243 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:57,280 He's very young. 244 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:02,480 I'm going to support him through his early years of going into being a man. 245 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:03,480 And I want to be there. 246 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,880 And I want to be there to be his mum. 247 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:10,960 And I want to see him grow up and enjoy those later years. 248 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,200 And that was a very firm intention. 249 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:23,360 Eric, as soon as I set that intention to come back, whiff, white, there's a white flash. 250 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:24,800 Remember that so vividly. 251 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:26,640 It was the biggest white flash I've ever seen. 252 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,720 It was like being the closest thing I can compare it to. 253 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:33,240 We had an electrical thunderstorm here this week. 254 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,560 And the sky was lighting up with white flashes. 255 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:43,960 It was this power and this intensity of a huge electrical storm. 256 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:49,480 It was much bigger than this, but it was bright, white light, which I read as God. 257 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,680 This was a God light. 258 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:55,400 And with that flash, I came back into my body. 259 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:56,920 And guess what? 260 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:03,760 When I came back in, I had a scan pretty much straight after. 261 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,840 And the doctor came in with the news and he was shaking his head. 262 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:10,920 As he came through the door, he was, I got your scan results. 263 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,040 I said, okay. 264 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,880 And I knew because I'd already been told by these angels that I was going to have three 265 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,440 scans and the third one was going to be clear. 266 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,280 I knew to expect this would be clear. 267 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:30,200 He said, I have been in oncology for 40 years and I've never seen this in all of my career 268 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,960 as a doctor dealing with cancer patients. 269 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,040 It's all clear. 270 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,400 Your scan is all clear. 271 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,640 And there is no tumor now. 272 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:44,280 And the extraordinary thing is there's no scarring, which we would have expected from 273 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:45,880 having had this tumor. 274 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:46,880 There is no scarring. 275 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,360 And it's all gone. 276 00:17:49,360 --> 00:17:55,120 I don't have any explanation for this result. 277 00:17:55,120 --> 00:17:57,160 It looks like a miracle to me. 278 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,480 Although we're not in the business of miracles. 279 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:05,480 I looked to him and I said, that's interesting that you're not in the business of miracles 280 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:06,480 because I am. 281 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,240 That is my business. 282 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:09,680 That's what I do. 283 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:11,160 I do miracles. 284 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:12,680 And this is one of them. 285 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,680 And he kind of smiled, confused. 286 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:17,760 He didn't really understand what was going on. 287 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:19,800 I'd never heard of a near-death experience. 288 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:26,480 I did not understand that many people, any other people have been through similar situations 289 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:27,480 as this. 290 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:29,600 I'd never read about it, never heard about it. 291 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,320 But I learned fast. 292 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,200 I started absorbing information about it. 293 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,960 So there I was being told that I'm clear. 294 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:43,720 I told my family and I remember my brother saying, well, this is a miracle. 295 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:48,560 And he's a farmer down to earth, doesn't talk about these kind of things. 296 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:53,280 I don't think I've ever heard him call a miracle before. 297 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:59,240 But it was clearly something that was not understood by the people around me. 298 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:04,640 But it was in my terminology, it was something that made sense. 299 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:12,400 I just was thinking that the golden angels I referred to, they told me that I would 300 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:18,000 be going through a storyline that I would be writing into a book. 301 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:25,680 So as a writer, I was like, oh, right, I'm being given this real life experience that 302 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:35,360 I can now write as a story and as a real life true story that will inspire people. 303 00:19:35,360 --> 00:19:36,960 That's my purpose. 304 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:43,560 At last, I have found my purpose, and this is it, to talk about this experience and to 305 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:50,200 be cured, healed from the most difficult kind of tumor. 306 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:54,240 This is a tumor that was in the center of my brain so it could not be operated upon because 307 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,600 that would have killed me if they tried to do that. 308 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:04,120 So suddenly here I was with a storyline that made so much sense, I can write about this. 309 00:20:04,120 --> 00:20:07,080 And it's only now that I'm starting to do that. 310 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:08,080 This is so cool. 311 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:11,040 I want to just fill in a couple of blanks here. 312 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:14,960 One is I'm interested to see the commonalities. 313 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:20,240 One of the commonalities is the power of a mother's love. 314 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:26,320 I have had so many people explain to me the choice, the decision that they had to make 315 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:27,320 to come back. 316 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:34,720 And a lot of people did not want to come back, but the many mothers that I have talked to 317 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:41,640 who said, I knew that I needed and wanted to go back for my children is such a powerful 318 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,680 thing. 319 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,280 And they all have the opportunity to come back. 320 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:51,560 Of course, we're not talking about those that had to stay for whatever reason. 321 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:55,160 I can't speculate and don't want to go into that. 322 00:20:55,160 --> 00:21:01,000 But the other commonality that goes with making that decision is when someone makes 323 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:05,600 that decision to go back, they don't linger where they are. 324 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:09,680 They don't all of a sudden, oh, would you, you're going to go back, but would you like 325 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,800 a tour of heaven first or something like that? 326 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:13,800 No. 327 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:19,120 The instant that someone makes the choice to go back, and I can't think of any exceptions 328 00:21:19,120 --> 00:21:21,840 to this, boom, they're back. 329 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:26,640 Now their description of how they get back into their body is different for everybody. 330 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,360 What was the term you used again? 331 00:21:28,360 --> 00:21:33,240 Yeah, it was a white, bright white light and I was transported immediately. 332 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:38,280 As soon as I decided, I want to, as soon as I set the intention, I'm going back. 333 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:39,280 Bam. 334 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:40,560 I was back in my body. 335 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,880 It usually happens very quickly like that. 336 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,000 You just said the word bam. 337 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:49,880 I've heard the word slammed, you know, dropped, whatever. 338 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:55,720 It seems to be a very fast process, but sometimes leaving the body like you explained can be 339 00:21:55,720 --> 00:22:00,240 a little bit slower and a little bit more of a process. 340 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:01,840 I just find that interesting. 341 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:02,840 Yeah. 342 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,600 When I left my body, that felt slower process. 343 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:10,920 A process that I didn't know what was happening. 344 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:18,200 I felt only that my spirit was on the move and it felt on the move like this, kind of 345 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:22,760 circular, like a spiral. 346 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,400 I know in order to feel feelings, they have to move. 347 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:32,280 I guess the same is with this sense of feeling my spirit moving through my body and up and 348 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:33,280 out. 349 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,880 It felt quite a slow thing. 350 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:40,680 It was almost as if I had the warning that, okay, you're on your way now and I could get 351 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,400 used to this idea. 352 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:43,400 It wasn't a shock. 353 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,160 It's kind of suddenly whoosh, go out really quick. 354 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:51,760 It was more of a slow burn and it wasn't a burn, but it was more of a slow process, 355 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:52,960 let's say. 356 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:59,440 I had time to get my head around the fact that I could be leaving my body and I loved 357 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:04,520 the fact that I had no fear about this, no fear at all. 358 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,960 I always had no fear throughout the process. 359 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,720 When I was in heaven, I had no fear. 360 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:17,480 When I came back, I certainly had, the best way I can describe it is that my program for 361 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,560 fear got deleted. 362 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:21,760 I couldn't find it. 363 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,040 I couldn't find fear. 364 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,160 That's very interesting. 365 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:32,040 Tell me in your opinion, what is the opposite emotion of fear? 366 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:33,040 Love. 367 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:34,360 Were you feeling love? 368 00:23:34,360 --> 00:23:35,680 Oh yeah. 369 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,680 I was emanating love. 370 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:45,760 I felt in the angel realms, I felt, and part of me now still feels quite angelic and very 371 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:52,800 heavily, very connected to these realms, even though I'm back here, family was my feet 372 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,400 on planet Earth. 373 00:23:54,400 --> 00:24:05,040 I have retained an element of these higher realms in my soul, in my existence now. 374 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,080 That's present. 375 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:14,400 I look at situations now and I have great compassion and love for what's going on, rather 376 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:22,240 than any sort of, let's say, more negative emotions of judgment and of guilt or of these 377 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:29,960 kind of things that have been replaced almost completely with this compassion and this unconditional 378 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:31,120 love at all. 379 00:24:31,120 --> 00:24:33,400 I can't harm a fly. 380 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,480 Literally, I can't harm a fly. 381 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:42,600 I have to pick it up, wrap it in a big thing, so it's got plenty of room to stay alive, 382 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,040 and then I will let it go outside. 383 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:54,000 Is that level where everything has importance and every living sentient being has importance? 384 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,000 Yeah. 385 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,680 How old are you different? 386 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,520 I'm different in many ways. 387 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:03,600 I am not the person that I was and I found it hard to integrate back into life when I 388 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,240 came back because I had changed so much. 389 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:08,240 I looked the same. 390 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:09,520 I had the same name. 391 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,160 I had the same life, kind of. 392 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:17,120 People thought I was the same person, but I wasn't. 393 00:25:17,120 --> 00:25:18,880 My frequency had changed. 394 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,840 My energy levels had changed. 395 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,200 My interests had changed. 396 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:27,480 I can't be around people who are talking a negative game. 397 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:32,080 I always found that quite difficult, but now I definitely cannot. 398 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:38,040 I cannot hang out in circles where people are saying mean things about other people, 399 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:39,040 not interested. 400 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:43,040 I will literally walk away because I can't be in that scenario. 401 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:47,240 I curate very carefully now my environment who I hang out with. 402 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:48,880 I live in Bita for goodness sake. 403 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,400 There's partying, there's drugs, there's all sorts of stuff going on here. 404 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:59,840 I am very careful about who I spend time with, what I spend my time doing, and make sure that 405 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,040 I am not around negative energies. 406 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:03,720 This has become extremely important. 407 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:10,520 It's always quite important, but now it's absolutely 100% important to me. 408 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:15,280 Are you sensitive enough to it that if you walk in a room with that kind of negative 409 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:20,480 energy or frequency that's different than yours, you feel it immediately and turn around 410 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,480 and walk out? 411 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:23,480 Yes. 412 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,840 I would describe myself as a lever. 413 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,760 I leave if I am not feeling it. 414 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,560 Many times I walk into social gatherings. 415 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:37,080 I will take a look around and I think, this isn't for me. 416 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,000 This is not going to uplift my energy. 417 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,000 It's going to pull me down. 418 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,680 I am off and I will just go. 419 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,440 Most times I go somewhere knowing I might only be there five or 10 minutes and then 420 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:47,440 I will leave. 421 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:51,840 I don't drink alcohol because I'm aware of what that does to my frequency. 422 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,760 It's just not good for me. 423 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:55,760 It's just not good. 424 00:26:55,760 --> 00:27:02,760 I want to change who I am in that way using spirits. 425 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:09,640 It's interesting that heavy booze is called spirits and how that interacts with our own 426 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:10,800 spirit. 427 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:15,880 I don't smoke and I don't drink and I eat very carefully. 428 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,160 I curate everything that comes in. 429 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:22,000 I can't watch scary, horrible movies. 430 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:31,440 I'm probably a handful to be around but actually I understand the power of everything around 431 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:32,440 us. 432 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:38,440 While we're talking about this, one of the things I noted very clearly is that I am part 433 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:39,520 of everything. 434 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:40,520 I am everything. 435 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:41,520 I am God. 436 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:42,520 God is me. 437 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:43,520 We all are. 438 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,520 We're all part of this thing. 439 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,720 Everything has meaning. 440 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:56,000 Words, emotions, feelings are very powerful on a personal level and a collective level. 441 00:27:56,000 --> 00:28:02,160 The impact we have is powerful and we are interconnected with everything. 442 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,240 We are all one. 443 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,120 If I hurt someone else, I'm hurting myself. 444 00:28:07,120 --> 00:28:13,520 I knew that in theory before but it was when I went up that I saw it in action. 445 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:21,120 I saw this principle in action that we truly are part of everything and that we have to 446 00:28:21,120 --> 00:28:27,520 really mind our behaviors and choices. 447 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,480 The good life is about making good choices. 448 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:35,360 If something makes you feel not great, there's a reason for that. 449 00:28:35,360 --> 00:28:42,640 If you see a friend, someone you know, and they pull you down, I notice that and I pay 450 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,200 attention to that. 451 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,440 I don't want to be around people who do that. 452 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,440 I make very careful choices. 453 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,640 You said to me, what's changed afterwards? 454 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,520 I can't be around the people. 455 00:28:53,520 --> 00:29:00,120 Some people, I used to be around for this reason because I'm very sensitive to the energies. 456 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:01,600 My friendship group changed. 457 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:02,600 What I do changes. 458 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,720 What I do in terms of work has changed and so on and so on. 459 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:13,840 I was always quite a creative soul and now that I'm really connected to these higher 460 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:19,880 realms or more expansive realms, let's call it that, I don't want to say there's high 461 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:25,120 and low, there's expansive realms and that has powered up my creativity. 462 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:26,600 I was a good writer before. 463 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,960 I've written published books before I got ill. 464 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:37,840 Now I think I'm just so much better writer and visionary and receiver of ideas than 465 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,200 I ever was. 466 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:46,240 In writing my book on creativity, I talked about the fact that we can jump up and bring 467 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:47,560 ideas down. 468 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,440 Many people do that often at the same time. 469 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:55,080 You find ideas have their time because voting around in the collective is how I think about 470 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:56,080 it. 471 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:57,240 They can drop down to different people. 472 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:01,280 Some people will take those ideas and run with them, other people will choose to ignore 473 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:02,280 it. 474 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,240 I find myself much more connected to the field. 475 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:06,640 I can feel things. 476 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:07,840 I can see things. 477 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,800 I can anticipate things far more than I ever did. 478 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:12,800 That's my responsibility. 479 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:13,800 Yeah, it does. 480 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:18,480 Can I ask you a couple more questions? 481 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:23,960 You mentioned in coming out of your body and looking down at the quote shell of your body, 482 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:28,400 I think it was the term that you used, and that you didn't feel any fear, but still wasn't 483 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:29,560 that a little weird? 484 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:35,200 I mean, didn't that just feel kind of strange leaving your body or did it feel natural? 485 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:36,440 I don't know. 486 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,400 I can't say it felt weird. 487 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,520 I can't say I felt that was weird. 488 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,640 I'm curious character. 489 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:49,080 I was having fun with this as, wow, this is cool. 490 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,560 I'm seeing all these things I've never seen before. 491 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:52,560 Wow. 492 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:59,400 What was the feeling I had, which is intense, almost excitement and curiosity. 493 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:00,400 This is a tale. 494 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,640 This is an amazing story I'm in. 495 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:07,320 I kind of knew because of what the angels had told me that I'm going to be given this 496 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:15,520 extraordinary journey, I kind of knew that I was in this scene in my own life movie. 497 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,480 That was really cool. 498 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,960 I just wanted to absorb it and love it. 499 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:21,960 That's what I did. 500 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:32,040 I've learned that keeping that sense of lightness and curiosity and not being kind of troubled 501 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,720 by it is a really good way to go. 502 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,840 There's different ways you can look at this. 503 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:41,120 You can look at this and go, oh my gosh, that is way too much information for one person 504 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:42,120 to have to handle. 505 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:43,840 That's a big old story. 506 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:48,200 Or you can look at it as, I'm so grateful to have such an extraordinary story. 507 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:49,360 I meet many people. 508 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,840 I'm in Ibiza, I love coffee. 509 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,400 I have a lot of coffee. 510 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,160 That's the thing I love. 511 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,800 I sit down and I love chatting to people. 512 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:03,160 Today I chatted to three or four people I'd never met before. 513 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:10,400 I was at the coffee bar this morning and I chatted to this lady and she said, oh, how 514 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,360 long have you lived on the island? 515 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:13,960 I just arrived and I said, oh, how nice. 516 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,440 I told her my story. 517 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,600 She said, what do you do? 518 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:19,600 I said, I'm a writer. 519 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:20,600 What are you writing about? 520 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,800 She was asking very specific questions. 521 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,560 So I thought, all right, I can tell you. 522 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:29,840 I told her that I said to her, this is what happened to me and I'm writing a book about 523 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:30,840 it. 524 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:31,840 She was, oh, wow. 525 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,080 I've had something similar. 526 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:41,200 We traded conversations and it made, we weren't talking about the normal thing that people 527 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:45,800 talk about, which is, oh, what do you get up to this weekend? 528 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:46,800 No, I'm interested. 529 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:54,360 We were talking on this level of leaving your body and getting healed and having these extraordinary 530 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:58,080 spiritual epiphanies. 531 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:05,120 So it makes for a lot more interesting conversations, I think, and fun conversations with other 532 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:06,120 people. 533 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:07,680 So I love connecting. 534 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,680 You also mentioned feeling free. 535 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,160 When your spirit was out of your body, you felt super free. 536 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:14,880 Explain that a little bit more. 537 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:15,880 Yeah. 538 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:24,160 So I felt that, I felt this is an adventure with infinite potential and that I was flying, 539 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:31,480 I was like, I was superwoman flying through the air with my cape, you know, just freedom. 540 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,840 And there were no constraints suddenly. 541 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,440 And I had felt very constrained. 542 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:42,280 I felt constrained when I was in the hospital, for example, and I had to stay in this room 543 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:48,360 and I escaped from hospital four times because I couldn't bear to be told I had to stay in 544 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:49,680 one room. 545 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:54,640 So I remember unplugging, I had all these tubes coming in here and so I unplugged them, got 546 00:33:54,640 --> 00:34:00,280 changed into my outdoor wear, slipped out the back, went into the lift, hailed a cab, 547 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:01,760 went into town, into Cambridge. 548 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:06,840 I did that four or five times because I didn't want to be constrained. 549 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,960 And I love freedom. 550 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,840 And so I escaped and I got caught a couple of times. 551 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,320 And I just wanted to get some fresh air. 552 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:20,920 And I actually wanted to get some good food because the food in the hospital, that would 553 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,800 have killed me if nothing else because it was just, there was no nutrients in it. 554 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,000 So I wanted to go and eat. 555 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:32,320 So I went to the local fantastic noodles bar with fresh vegetables and had fun there. 556 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,480 So that was kind of fun, running away. 557 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:40,760 So adventure and freedom, they're really important themes for me and I got to enjoy being free 558 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,520 of my beautiful body. 559 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:51,240 I got to enjoy what it is to be an infinite being, which I think at the baseline of all 560 00:34:51,240 --> 00:34:52,760 of us, that's what we are. 561 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:58,120 We're infinite beings held for this lifetime in a container that's called the body. 562 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:03,480 And the body gets older and sometimes it malfunctions and we get to seize and so on. 563 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:11,120 And then when we die, we get released into home and Vikkha at one with the whole universe. 564 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:12,120 That's the experience I had. 565 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,680 And I'm so blessed to have had the experience. 566 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:19,400 I feel it was the luckiest thing and the best thing that's ever happened to me. 567 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:24,600 People say to me, oh, you poor thing having this brain cancer, that must have been terrible. 568 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:25,600 And I have to reframe it. 569 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,720 I said, it's not wasn't terrible at all. 570 00:35:27,720 --> 00:35:33,960 It was actually, if I'm honest with you, the most wonderful experience of my life. 571 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,480 I feel very, very grateful. 572 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,680 I'm a better, happier person for it. 573 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,800 What else did you see while you were flying out there? 574 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,920 I don't really remember seeing very much. 575 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:52,640 I felt this expansive feeling of freedom and I felt what it feels like to be in spirit 576 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,440 form. 577 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:59,520 And there's not, I know some people have relatives that they meet and so on. 578 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,320 I didn't have that. 579 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:06,000 I just had this feeling of freedom out of my body. 580 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:13,200 And I also had a feeling that I was given a new, a mental upgrade, an operating system 581 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,360 upgrade in my mental faculties. 582 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:23,960 So when I came back, I was kind of with a different upgraded platform mentally, which 583 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:24,960 is fun. 584 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:30,080 I've always been a kind of gregarious adventurer, interested in new things. 585 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:35,320 I thought, how you don't get more interesting than upgrading your own operating software. 586 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,400 That is a good upgrade. 587 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,200 Susie 2.0. 588 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:40,880 Okay. 589 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,040 Next I want to hear about the three angels. 590 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:44,680 Tell me more about them. 591 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:45,680 Okay. 592 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:50,240 So it was, there weren't three actually, it was about three scans. 593 00:36:50,240 --> 00:36:52,480 They told me I would have three scans. 594 00:36:52,480 --> 00:37:01,360 So I was in the hospital and I was praying for information about what was happening. 595 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:07,560 And I felt this golden orb, very clearly it was an orb. 596 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:13,280 So in that sense, I have a van orb is, is I was surrounded by golden light. 597 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:19,840 And this golden light I knew was an angelic form. 598 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,040 And I knew that I could commune with this form. 599 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:29,000 And I knew that this, this form of, I knew that this was golden angels, a collective 600 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,320 of golden angels. 601 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,440 And I knew they were here to help me. 602 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:33,680 I just knew that. 603 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,480 I knew I could get information. 604 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:40,720 And there was a kind of trading of a, a swapping of, well, swapping suggests I was giving them 605 00:37:40,720 --> 00:37:41,720 information. 606 00:37:41,720 --> 00:37:46,560 No, they were giving me information about what was happening and giving me a clear idea that 607 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,000 I was looked after. 608 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,680 They told me I would have three scans. 609 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,080 One was a terrible news. 610 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:53,080 Second one improved. 611 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:57,120 Third one, I was great and healed. 612 00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:01,640 So they gave me this important information, which allowed me to feel really calm through 613 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:05,280 the whole process because I believed what they said. 614 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:10,320 And the thing is, I started telling people, oh yeah, I had this, these angels come to 615 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,320 me and I was acting before I got ill. 616 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:17,000 I was, oh yeah, just immediately before I was diagnosed. 617 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,040 I was very hyper. 618 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,000 I was acting strangely. 619 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,800 I was talking very fast. 620 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:28,120 And I organized, for example, a press conference from my bed. 621 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,960 I got, I had someone working with me, my assistant. 622 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:37,200 I asked her to send out all of these information, all these emails to 500 people around the world. 623 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:41,040 There's going to be a big press conference in Ibiza, the Montesola Hotel. 624 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:42,040 Please come along. 625 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,240 So you've got a very important announcement to make, all of this. 626 00:38:45,240 --> 00:38:50,880 So I was full on and so people were thinking, oh my God, she's really lost it now. 627 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:55,640 She's gone mental, bless her, and we've got to look after a mental case. 628 00:38:55,640 --> 00:39:01,280 So I started telling people about the angels that came and eyes would roll out and they 629 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,480 go, oh no, you know, she's really lost it now. 630 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,800 So I learned very quickly to zip it and not talk about angels. 631 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:14,320 I had this understanding that if I started telling people what I was seeing and what 632 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:21,200 was happening, I would be escorted to a psychiatric unit faster than anything and subdued, given 633 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:25,800 heavy medication, and maybe they'd just lock me up and they throw away the key and I won't 634 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:26,800 get out. 635 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,040 So I thought, hmm, not a good strategy. 636 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,960 So I learned that all of the things that I was going through, not to share with anybody. 637 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,680 So I kept it to myself for a long time. 638 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,520 And it's only now. 639 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,680 And I had a very successful career. 640 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,960 I wasn't like a crazy hippie. 641 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:48,120 Like there are many in Ibiza, crazy hippies just talking about all sorts of crazy things 642 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:49,880 and people will go, oh, they're the hippies. 643 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:50,880 I was not a hippie. 644 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:57,960 I'd had a very successful career, done really well, run businesses and had a great stellar 645 00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:58,960 career. 646 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:06,880 So it wasn't easy to label me as a crazy person because of my background, but I was being 647 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,560 labeled a crazy person while I was in hospital. 648 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:15,040 So I kind of had to mute that and I learned, don't tell your story. 649 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:16,040 Just don't. 650 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,840 There'll be a time when you can, but this is not the time. 651 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:23,440 And this whole frequency thing that you're talking about, I imagine you've gotten in 652 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:27,920 tune enough to realize, okay, here's a safe space to talk about it. 653 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,440 Here is not based on what you're feeling there. 654 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:31,920 Is that the case? 655 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:32,920 Yeah. 656 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:33,920 Yeah. 657 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,200 And I now talk about it a lot more. 658 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:42,720 For example, a woman I just met this morning that I mentioned in the cafe, ordering a drink, 659 00:40:42,720 --> 00:40:46,040 I had told her my story and I knew it was okay to do so. 660 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:52,360 I've learned, I think maybe things have changed in this period of, that has gone on. 661 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:58,840 The world is waking up a little bit more, but also I've got enough runway between now 662 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:08,240 and then to feel powerful enough to share stories that I feel I might get heavily judged 663 00:41:08,240 --> 00:41:09,240 on. 664 00:41:09,240 --> 00:41:14,040 And I felt for a long time that I would get really judged when I start talking about this 665 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:19,800 because that happened when I first, it first happened, I was judged heavily. 666 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,680 I didn't want to be judged. 667 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:27,880 So it's taken a lot of courage, a lot of reading of books, talking to people. 668 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:33,040 Raymond Moody, I adore, for example, has done so many studies on all of this. 669 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:37,240 When he started telling me about the extent of the studies and just how many people have 670 00:41:37,240 --> 00:41:40,080 had this experience, this gave me great encouragement. 671 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,200 I thought, yeah, great. 672 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:47,280 And I know that the reason that I've been through this is because I need to share the 673 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:48,440 story with others. 674 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:53,320 I want people to be optimistic about what happens when you die because it's a very beautiful 675 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:54,320 thing. 676 00:41:54,320 --> 00:42:00,640 We can't possibly understand the nature of the universe as human beings living a life. 677 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:08,000 We can't understand the depth and the width and the beauty and the magic of what being 678 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:14,280 a human being is, what consciousness is, the magic of life, the synchronicities that happen. 679 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:21,960 Just this week, since we're on the turn of the year, I've been noticing on purpose synchronicities. 680 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:27,720 Yesterday, I counted 10 just in one day of things that happened that were just crazily 681 00:42:27,720 --> 00:42:30,080 brilliant. 682 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,240 My son is looking for an apartment in Amsterdam. 683 00:42:32,240 --> 00:42:36,360 I was chatting to someone in the cafe and they just out of nowhere said, I've got an 684 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:40,280 apartment in Amsterdam that I'm looking to find someone for. 685 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,320 They just met half an hour ago and it's all great. 686 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:50,000 This kind of synchronicity that is magical and just noticing all these things is part 687 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:54,480 of the wonder of all of this and sharing the magic of life. 688 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,960 How fun is that? 689 00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:02,840 It's part of gratitude also is realizing all those things so that we can be grateful for 690 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:03,840 them. 691 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,840 All right, two more questions before I let you go. 692 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,880 Number one, on a scale of one to 10, what is your fear of death? 693 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:10,880 Zero. 694 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,280 I have no fear. 695 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:14,280 No fear. 696 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:20,200 Because I know how beautiful it is and it's inevitability. 697 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:27,360 We are meant to live, learn, grow, have fun and die. 698 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,240 That's how we're built. 699 00:43:30,240 --> 00:43:36,800 The fact that I've experienced a tip or a little tip of the iceberg of death and I can 700 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,640 see that it's glorious. 701 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:43,640 If someone says to me, I'm losing someone in my family or I've just lost someone or 702 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:47,760 I get many people come to me who are cancer patients. 703 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,640 I had one this week, a beautiful guy came and said he's just been given a very short 704 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:55,720 duration and I told him my story and it helped him. 705 00:43:55,720 --> 00:44:04,920 It's a wonderful thing to live life, to learn lessons and then to elegantly just leave the 706 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:06,920 body and then you have freedom. 707 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:08,680 It's a beautiful thing. 708 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:09,880 That's beautiful. 709 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:16,040 A lot of people have not felt the bliss and unconditional love that you mentioned. 710 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:20,200 Would you please dive into that a little bit more and put it in terms that maybe we can 711 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:21,200 relate to? 712 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,600 What did it really feel like? 713 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:33,720 Feeling unconditional love, it's a very unique and special effect. 714 00:44:33,720 --> 00:44:41,240 All of these big concepts that we're discussing here, words hardly do it justice. 715 00:44:41,240 --> 00:44:49,360 I can only talk in terms of words that I have in my vocabulary and emotions that I have 716 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,680 in my catalogue of emotions. 717 00:44:52,680 --> 00:45:03,800 I can describe it as beautiful being in love with oneself and in love with our relationship 718 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:10,960 with the earth and the planet, which my interest in planet and climate change and everything 719 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:11,960 is. 720 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:18,600 I am now on the board of a very brilliant planet organization to help climate change 721 00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,960 because I care. 722 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:28,160 Love for the planet and my relationship to the planet has just developed so strongly 723 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:29,160 now. 724 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:36,520 I feel like it's explaining what unconditional love is like, what the death, past the body 725 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:42,040 and in this realm of everything and nothingness. 726 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:47,640 It's very hard because we haven't got any reference points to compare it to. 727 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:54,600 All I can say is it gives you the emotions that we are all looking for, which is connection, 728 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:59,000 being part of something wonderful and a feeling loved. 729 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,200 This to me is a heavenly state in itself. 730 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,680 Susie, thank you so much for being with me today. 731 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:06,680 It's been inspirational. 732 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:07,680 I appreciate it. 733 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:12,440 Eric, thank you so much and thank you for everyone who listens to this. 734 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:20,120 I just want to complete with a few things, which is if you know people who are dying 735 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:26,640 or you have people around you who are dying or indeed you feel like you are on the way, 736 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,680 there is nothing to fear. 737 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,520 There is nothing to fear. 738 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:39,600 It is a destiny that we are all as living human beings will head to at some point today, 739 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,800 tomorrow or in very many years, doesn't matter. 740 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:43,800 There is nothing to fear. 741 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:50,120 I think in our communities and our culture, culturally, we've coded it incorrectly. 742 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,320 We've encoded it as a dreadful thing. 743 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,320 It's actually a wonderful thing. 744 00:46:55,320 --> 00:47:00,480 I just invite the invitation is there for people to see, is to reframe death, to see 745 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:08,280 it quite differently and to see it as a release and a entry into the godly world of heaven, 746 00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:09,280 let's call it. 747 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,320 These are the words that are attributed often in religious contexts. 748 00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:13,920 I'm not talking about religion. 749 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:18,280 It's talking about a concept, concept of a wonderful place that we go to when we need 750 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:19,280 our bodies. 751 00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,200 I would encourage anyone to lose fear of death. 752 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:23,720 There's nothing to worry about. 753 00:47:23,720 --> 00:47:26,080 Eric, thank you so much for having me on. 754 00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:30,560 I just love chatting to you. 755 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,360 Thanks again for listening and sharing this podcast. 756 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:39,440 Don't forget to hit the follow or subscribe button and sign up for our newsletter at roundtriptest.com. 757 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:43,720 If you want to share your near-death experience or if you have questions or comments about 758 00:47:43,720 --> 00:47:48,080 the show, send an email to ericatroundtriptest.com. 759 00:47:48,080 --> 00:48:14,320 Until then, I wish you everything good that you're looking for in this life and the next.