1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:08,480 From the time that they pronounced me deaf was a good 45 minutes. 2 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:13,440 They cut my clothes and then they paddled my heart, my heart had stopped. 3 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:18,120 And I could see people screaming and crying, but I didn't realize that was actually my 4 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,320 physical body because I was somewhere else. 5 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:27,400 The only thing that I could feel, if you could imagine, absolute love and peace, there wasn't 6 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,400 anything else to be felt. 7 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,560 I was greeted by people I'd known in the past. 8 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:34,160 I'm back home again. 9 00:00:34,160 --> 00:00:39,160 Incredibly safe and felt at home. 10 00:00:39,160 --> 00:00:43,920 Welcome, welcome to RoundTripDeath everybody, and I'd like to welcome our special guest, 11 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:44,920 Laura Lydrock. 12 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:46,680 How are you this morning? 13 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:47,680 I'm doing good. 14 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:49,280 Thank you so much. 15 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:50,960 I know it's afternoon for you. 16 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:57,120 Hey, we're going to be talking about multiple near-death experiences that you have had. 17 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:00,900 So there's a little hint for the listeners of what there is to come. 18 00:01:00,900 --> 00:01:06,640 I'd like to take just a brief one minute before we start and have you tell us a little bit 19 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:08,240 about you. 20 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:09,240 Who is Laura Lydrock? 21 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:10,240 What do you do? 22 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,440 Tell us anything you feel like sharing. 23 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,480 Oh, well, thank you. 24 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:22,000 Well, I was born in the Midwest on a large farm, which plays into my first experience. 25 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:28,400 I'm a mother of three, and a strange thing about me is my whole family is experiencers. 26 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:34,120 So there's a lot of support that way because we've all had various experiences and near-death 27 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:35,520 experiences. 28 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:40,240 From those, all my clear abilities are very wide open. 29 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:49,480 So I do a lot of session work with people, helping them find self. 30 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,000 I always say I'm a remembrance guide, I'm not a healer. 31 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:57,600 I just help you remember who you are and your ability to heal yourself. 32 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,760 And so I have all those labels. 33 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:01,000 I do not like labels. 34 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,480 That's another thing about me, but you like psychic mediumship. 35 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:10,920 I'm a medical intuitive and all those different healer labels you can grow out there. 36 00:02:10,920 --> 00:02:13,520 Did any of those start before your experiences? 37 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:17,840 Of course, the first one, you were only seven years old, so you probably don't remember. 38 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:22,000 I know my mother used to say even from the time I could first talk that I was a very 39 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:31,680 old soul, I just understood things I should for my age and just a keen empathy, you know, 40 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,080 that others didn't seem to quite have. 41 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:38,240 So I am not sure on that either, like you said, because it was at seven. 42 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,640 I know I had prophetic dreams, but I don't know if they started before or after. 43 00:02:41,640 --> 00:02:43,680 I'm pretty sure it was after. 44 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:49,240 I'm curious about your family, and I wasn't expecting to talk about this, but there are 45 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:57,040 so many people that have NDEs that feel like they can't talk to anybody. 46 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:03,280 You know, we had someone on the show recently who even I certainly will not name names, 47 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:09,400 but he didn't tell his wife that he was going to be on the show because she's like doesn't 48 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:14,880 believe it, thinks it sounds crazy, and it's really hard for him that he cannot talk to 49 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,200 the most important person in his life about it. 50 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:19,800 So what's your family like? 51 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,800 Is this a very open topic at the dinner table? 52 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:30,480 I can ask that even by my friends, like how does a family like yours even go out in public 53 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:34,000 because we're all so into and psychic and all that other labels, right? 54 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:38,680 You know, and it was difficult for a while, I will say this, because even though my husband's 55 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:44,040 had various experiences, he's very scientific, genius IQ, you know, like everything has to 56 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,080 answer has an answer. 57 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:50,200 And his theory is, you know, magic is just science. 58 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,480 We haven't figured out yet, like all of this is science, which, you know, quantum physics 59 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,480 is starting to prove some of this. 60 00:03:55,480 --> 00:04:00,960 So until he started having some major experiences and stuff within the last few years, it was 61 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,040 a little more hard to bring up. 62 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,600 So me and my daughters would talk about things. 63 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,960 And then recently, you know, my son always kind of understood, but he would tease me 64 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:13,040 about the tinfoil hat and stuff, but that he's had some profound experiences within 65 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:14,040 the last few years. 66 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:18,400 So now I'm the one he comes to because he's having major experiences. 67 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:24,120 And I know like him and my daughter, my daughter said like two or three NDs already. 68 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:25,720 I think my son did it. 69 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,840 Birth, my other daughters had two. 70 00:04:29,840 --> 00:04:33,200 And my husband, I think, has had three. 71 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:37,360 I'm just saying, like you wouldn't believe, you know, that people are like, how is that 72 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:38,680 possible, your whole family? 73 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,760 But just various things that have happened along our life path. 74 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:47,320 And I think it was to accelerate our awareness together. 75 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,640 It also sounds like you're all very accident prone. 76 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:56,640 Well, some are medical procedures that went wrong and various. 77 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,240 And my two children was like a birth experience. 78 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,360 I had very difficult birth. 79 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:02,920 They almost didn't make it. 80 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:07,640 So all right, let's start with NDE number one. 81 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,000 You were seven years old. 82 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:11,000 What was going on? 83 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,200 Give me a little background. 84 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,760 We lived on 191 acres in rural Wisconsin. 85 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:18,720 And it's like it used to be a quarry. 86 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:23,280 So I had five large ponds and this was a drowning experience. 87 00:05:23,280 --> 00:05:28,920 My aunt and uncle lived on the farm across the street and they had come over and it was 88 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:29,920 late afternoon. 89 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:34,160 So anyway, my brother wanted to go check, must have been spring, so he wanted to check 90 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,320 if the bluegills were spawning and maybe fish. 91 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:41,120 So my mom was cooking and I was the only other one child they're like, take your sister 92 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:42,120 with. 93 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:48,600 And so yeah, so we ended up going down to the ponds, walking down there. 94 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:54,080 And that led into my near death experience because I didn't know how to swim. 95 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,400 So did you fall in or what happened? 96 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:57,400 Yeah. 97 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:02,040 Well, how it went was we went to the third and fourth pond, which in the spring are 98 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:07,120 very connected because when the ice melts, the water's higher. 99 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,040 So they stopped off at the first entrance to check the bluegills. 100 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,800 My uncle and my brother did. 101 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:18,440 I asked my aunt if she could go on to the next one because I wanted to look out into 102 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:19,440 what we call the swim hole. 103 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,040 It was like 30 foot deep. 104 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:26,480 And there was a smaller pond besides that where in the spring all the frogs laid tadpoles 105 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,600 and stuff because I used to like to raise tadpoles. 106 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,280 So I had to take me over there. 107 00:06:32,280 --> 00:06:34,480 She also couldn't swim, which is of note. 108 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,840 And so she was kind of afraid of water. 109 00:06:37,840 --> 00:06:42,520 So she stayed up on the bank and I walked down the bank in onto this makeshift pier that 110 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,760 my family had built with pallets and posts. 111 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:51,200 And I went out there and like the afternoon sun, you know how it hits across the water. 112 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,080 It was very hypnotizing. 113 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:58,000 So I was on the left side or right where the sun was hitting and I was starting to feel 114 00:06:58,000 --> 00:06:59,000 a little woozy. 115 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:03,560 So I went to the other side where I was out of the sun and couldn't see the rippling of 116 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:04,560 the water. 117 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,840 I mean, at that time, this one she asked, you know, are you gonna be okay? 118 00:07:07,840 --> 00:07:09,200 I want to go check on your uncle. 119 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,240 She had kind of like separation anxiety from him. 120 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:16,200 And I'm like, oh yeah, we were like seven years old and she left you though. 121 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,640 But like with farm kids, we had more responsibility. 122 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,360 Like I said, I was always an old soul. 123 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,040 Nobody ever like worried about me that way. 124 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:23,840 I spend all day out in the woods. 125 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:25,920 You know, it's just how we were raised. 126 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:27,720 She went to go do that. 127 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:32,800 And my last conscious memory is like her walkie-talkie asking if I would be okay. 128 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:38,000 Next thing I knew, literally I was underwater with the like the air bubbles like screaming 129 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,240 in the air bubbles coming up in front of my face. 130 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,960 And that's when I was like, oh my God, this is my air. 131 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:45,320 And then I'm like, hold on, I'm underwater. 132 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:49,920 I can't breathe in, you know, and then I'm like, oh my God, if I breathe in, I'm gonna 133 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:50,920 die. 134 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,800 And as soon as I had the thought of death, I was out of my body. 135 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:59,920 I'm just out watching it sink and in watching the in your play, I'll take place between 136 00:07:59,920 --> 00:08:00,920 my family. 137 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,080 I think they must have heard me fall in. 138 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:08,720 But this is where I connected my consciousness to each family member. 139 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:13,640 So the first consciousness that I recall connected with was my brother. 140 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:19,200 And he was wondering if he could run to me faster or swim that area faster. 141 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,520 And I was laughing because I was like, I had no concern for my body. 142 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:26,200 And I was laughing going, you can't do either very fast, you know. 143 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:31,440 So I would, that was that, you know, and I was just in there laughing. 144 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:35,600 But the next thing I switched to my uncle's consciousness and he was wondering, you know, 145 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,760 what happened and why she's leaving, you know, they're gonna blame us. 146 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:42,120 You know, one of, she doesn't make it all of these things. 147 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,960 And then my aunt, you know, she was having similar thoughts, but also like, how can I'm 148 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:46,960 closest? 149 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:47,960 How do I get to her? 150 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,160 If I don't do this right, we're both going to drown, you know. 151 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:55,000 So she decided she could hang on to like the post and try to reach me and like tend to 152 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:59,800 scoop me in, you know, like see if she can grab my hair or my hand or something to kind 153 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:01,480 of pull me up. 154 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,240 And so then like I said, they were all running towards me. 155 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:08,360 So as soon as I checked on them, I went like what I would call my hire. 156 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,640 Like I was way up so I could see for miles this time. 157 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:15,520 And that's why I connected with my mother's consciousness back at home because that punch 158 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,320 there is probably another mile, right? 159 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,920 So she was cooking, she was wondering if he caught anything. 160 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,640 I think she was chopping up vegetables for chili. 161 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:27,920 And so as soon as I checked on her, I completely left what I call the earth venue. 162 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:36,720 And I was, what this like, only I can describe is like rolling myths, like clouds. 163 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:41,920 And I could tell I didn't have a body and this guy didn't have a body, but I could tell 164 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:45,120 there was some like a presence with me to my left. 165 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:52,120 And I felt like aunt size, you know, and we're looking up at this huge archway up also to 166 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,880 the left that felt way up above us. 167 00:09:54,880 --> 00:10:04,240 And there was this light emanating from this archway that is indescribable in the sense 168 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:10,400 it was like white to yellow, you know, to amber to orange as it expanded. 169 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:17,200 But it literally felt like it slowly encompassed the whole space. 170 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,880 And the most, you know, like LED Watts in your eyes. 171 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,880 And I remember thinking like this should hurt to look at, you know, like I felt like looking 172 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,720 at the sun up close. 173 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:32,120 And there was the most overwhelming love, you know, it's like parental love times a thousand. 174 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:33,840 There's just not human words for it really. 175 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:34,840 I can't. 176 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:40,040 It was like literally, I say this now, but it's kind of ironic in the wording of like 177 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,680 the way to the world was off view. 178 00:10:42,680 --> 00:10:49,040 Like you just felt such immense peace, freedom, love. 179 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,080 And there are there happened, you know, there was like a being. 180 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,360 I knew there was a being in the side of this light. 181 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:59,360 Like it must I feel like the light was emanating from it possibly or through whatever this 182 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,160 archway led to. 183 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:07,040 And I remember having this conversation, you know, about my life and being shown things, 184 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,080 but I don't remember what they were. 185 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:13,600 And I remember having this huge argument that felt like it lasted like eternity. 186 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,400 It's like time is different there anyway. 187 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:19,240 But I was arguing and like, no, you can't make me go back. 188 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:20,400 I'm not going back to that. 189 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:21,400 There's no way. 190 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:22,400 There's no, I'm not going to. 191 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:26,560 This is, you know, and it, like I said, that felt like it went on forever. 192 00:11:26,560 --> 00:11:30,040 But then it was like, I was related to the Truman show because that's the only way I 193 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:31,040 can. 194 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,800 It was like, it's like a big booming voice coming over the PA. 195 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:35,960 It says you, it was male and authoritative. 196 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:40,000 And it says you must go back, you have more to do. 197 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,640 And something you mean, you like, you don't argue with this voice. 198 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:44,920 Like that's the end of it. 199 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:49,520 And that, like I said, I felt so small, but this is the funny part. 200 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,800 Like your personality doesn't change. 201 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,040 And I'm just like, I've always been this way. 202 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:55,040 Like you can't tell me what to do. 203 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:59,280 So I was like, okay, well, you can make me go back to my body, but you can't make me 204 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:00,280 go in it. 205 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,160 You can make me go back to earth, but not get there. 206 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,520 I distinctly remember that. 207 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:09,440 So then next thing I knew, I was like next to my body and I'm with my body and I'm watching 208 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,440 him, you know, carry it up there and lay it on its side. 209 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:13,440 There was no ill effects. 210 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,400 I don't remember coughing up any blood or anything. 211 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:19,800 I just was like disassociated in the sense that like, I don't even think I spoke to the 212 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:20,800 next day. 213 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:24,880 And that's when I confronted my family about their thoughts while I was underwater. 214 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:28,960 But even for like the year after, I think it took me at least a year before like, I 215 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:29,960 felt embodied. 216 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:35,040 Like I was not, I was with it, but I wasn't with it. 217 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:36,960 Because that makes sense. 218 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:38,400 That's so interesting. 219 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:39,920 Let me interject a couple of things. 220 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,560 Because you went very fast through all this. 221 00:12:43,560 --> 00:12:45,800 You briefly mentioned a guide. 222 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:49,440 Dude, can you tell me anything about the guide? 223 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:50,440 Not at all. 224 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,280 I just sensed a presence that was with me. 225 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:56,960 Like, you know, like, you know, like you would present something to royalty or something. 226 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:00,000 Like you'd have the page bring somebody up. 227 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:01,120 That's what it felt like. 228 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:08,640 Like I just knew I was safe with this being and that, you know, it was somehow like responsible 229 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:12,960 for me, like presenting me like, okay, well here she is, you know. 230 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:20,720 So then in this super bright archway, the being that you saw or heard or both there, 231 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,320 that was a different being than your guide? 232 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:24,320 Yes. 233 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,400 And a different one than told me I had to go back. 234 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:30,960 I mean, this one was telling me I had to go back and making me aware of like the things 235 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:32,960 I chose to do and everything. 236 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:38,520 But yeah, so it was three distinct different energies, beings. 237 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:39,760 I'm sorry, I got two. 238 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:41,480 Who was the third one? 239 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:42,480 One was the guide. 240 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,920 One was the original one that was showing me my life and all of the things. 241 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:46,920 Okay. 242 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,320 And that I was arguing with about returning. 243 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:54,400 Third one was this demanding male presence that told me to return. 244 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:55,920 Look, we've had enough. 245 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:56,920 You're going back. 246 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:58,800 You've had a long time to think about this. 247 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,920 Who do you think the demanding male presence was? 248 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:05,720 I honestly cannot say I'm sure. 249 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:10,760 Like I kind of understand now through all of my different experience that that light 250 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:14,520 and that person showing me my life was my like higher self, you know, whatever you want 251 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:19,880 to call it, my over soul, whatever the, the, the totality of me was that light. 252 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:27,440 As far as that being, I've had a lot of other experiences where literally seeing like screens 253 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:31,360 and watching things play out like the Truman Show kind of where it's all these screens 254 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:35,600 and different aspects of lives in my life. 255 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:39,440 So I almost feel like if I were to say that, I would say it was like more like the controller, 256 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:43,240 the person that knew all the plan, like this is the divine plan. 257 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,600 You need to go back to stop. 258 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,520 We're wasting your time here. 259 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:52,880 So I mean, some people may want to throw a label like God, but the God source of my understanding 260 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:56,480 is a lot more removed from this process. 261 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:01,960 One thing I find interesting here is that most people and a lot of people of course 262 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,320 are given a choice. 263 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,320 You can go back or you can stay. 264 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:10,320 Here's some ideas of what you want to think about to help you make your choice. 265 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:14,160 Other people are like you and they're just like, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm not going 266 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:18,600 back, but then they're usually talked into it. 267 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:24,760 So you know, you need to go back because X, Y, Z, and then they decide, okay, I'll go 268 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,320 even though I don't really want to. 269 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,640 But it sounds like you never got to that point. 270 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:32,240 You had no choice. 271 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,880 You just were, you had to. 272 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:39,320 I was so young and I know that like I had things to do, but I knew that they would be 273 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:40,840 very difficult. 274 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:41,840 I mean, that was the sense. 275 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:43,840 I got like, oh God, I don't want to go through that. 276 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:45,920 What did I sign up for? 277 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:47,960 It's harder than you think, you know? 278 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,280 So I think that was part of it. 279 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:53,600 You know, my later experiences, you know, you and I have touched based on that, that 280 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:55,760 I definitely chose and was given choices. 281 00:15:55,760 --> 00:16:01,200 But for this one, I think I was so young that I hadn't really done any of the things that 282 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,200 I was going to. 283 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,680 And this particular experience happened right around either before or right after the death 284 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:07,680 of my grandfather. 285 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:11,600 And I think it was partly tied to that because I was so close to him. 286 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:15,800 He was the only supportive person in my life at that time that it might have been to help 287 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:20,760 that process as well, you know, to understand and not be as affected. 288 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:22,040 It's still affecting me greatly. 289 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,440 I had to go to counseling, you know, but I'm just saying it was. 290 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:28,800 So I think it was partly in relation to that as well. 291 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:32,620 Just a brief interruption here to mention our sponsor, Smart Labels. 292 00:16:32,620 --> 00:16:37,000 If fall season means you're putting away summer clothes and toys, there's a product that helps 293 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:38,720 you keep it all organized. 294 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:43,320 Get the Smart Labels and stick their QR codes on all your storage bins. 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know you said there weren't words for it. 307 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:27,040 Try a little harder. 308 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:28,040 Try a little harder. 309 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,320 I'm going to open up a sasaris here. 310 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,280 Try to explain what that felt like. 311 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:43,280 You know, I do say it's almost like a mother's love in that sense, but amplified so beyond 312 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:44,280 that. 313 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:52,200 It feels like the most acceptance, it feels like you are completely seen and known. 314 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:57,800 I've had further experiences, so I know that I'm living multiple lives and variations and 315 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:59,720 consciousness at once. 316 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:06,240 It's like you're seeing in your whole totality everything that you judged about yourself, 317 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:13,840 everything that you've ever been, acted on, every emotion you've ever known. 318 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:20,560 Everything is completely accepted, completely understood, completely known. 319 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,400 Like there is nothing hidden. 320 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:31,280 You are in your complete authenticity as a being, but completely at one with this love 321 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:38,400 and knowing you are this love and that there is nothing outside that exists but this love. 322 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:42,360 I'm trying to think if there's anything earthly other than being, you know, giving birth to 323 00:18:42,360 --> 00:18:48,120 a child that I couldn't possibly compare it to, and even that's so minor. 324 00:18:48,120 --> 00:18:53,400 It's like this authentic purity of consciousness. 325 00:18:53,400 --> 00:19:01,480 Like you understand everything in that moment, and nothing matters in the sense of all the 326 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,040 worries that we have and the burdens that we have on earth. 327 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,840 Like I have to go to work, I have to pay something, or I won't be able to survive. 328 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:12,320 I won't be able to have a work for my head or food in my stomach or any of those things. 329 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,000 You realize that doesn't matter. 330 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,320 It was all living nightmare. 331 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,080 You might call it it was a dream. 332 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:25,800 I've had further experiences where they literally tell me this is a dream, a simulation, a manifestation 333 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:29,560 of thought and emotion playing out in physical matter. 334 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:34,680 So you know, when you're able to leave something like that and know all of it was over at a 335 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:40,520 blink of an eye, it was only not even a blink of an eye of your totality, all of that is 336 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:41,520 stripped away. 337 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:50,960 So you just understand and all of that leaving you, you're at this complete peace. 338 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:55,480 And you are that pure love because everything has been stripped away but that love because 339 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,480 that's really what you are. 340 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:01,880 And I guess that's the most I can explain it, I think. 341 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:06,800 That must have made you different than all the other seven-year-olds out there. 342 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:08,760 Growing up for you must have been different. 343 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,640 I hope in a really good way. 344 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:16,760 Most kids, did it remove things like your fear of death? 345 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:21,280 Like I said to my mom the next day, I know I died and this is what happened. 346 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,320 I told my brother his thoughts and he freaked out. 347 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:28,840 There was no way that's when he went ran, got my mom like something happened to her. 348 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,720 But I mean, in general, kids would always say you're weird but in a good way. 349 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:33,720 Because I knew things. 350 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:34,720 I knew their emotion. 351 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,640 I knew things. 352 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:42,720 After this seven-year-old experience, I lived in deja vu for years and years and years. 353 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:47,880 A thought would trigger and then I'd see the next 10 minutes play out. 354 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,880 That always made me knew that I was still on the path that I had chosen. 355 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:57,480 With that in mind, I always knew who was going to betray me or these different things. 356 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,440 I had an inner knowing about people. 357 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:04,400 I could tell you in a few minutes what their deal was and what their wounds were. 358 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:10,680 Yeah, it made it difficult in some ways because I literally could sense when people were prepared 359 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:11,680 to die. 360 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:15,920 Usually two weeks before they would start to look like melting wax dummies as their soul 361 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,760 energy would leave their body. 362 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:24,120 Later years, I can my 20s, I could tell when people were going to be born. 363 00:21:24,120 --> 00:21:27,320 Then a year, you're going to have a daughter. 364 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:32,720 Back as a seven-year-old, seven to 12, that was very hard. 365 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:38,920 I would get very ill and there was a certain weird pain I'd get in my stomach that told 366 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,840 me somebody was about to leave the venue. 367 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:47,440 That was something that frightened me, obviously, as a seven-year-old and seeing that as a seven-year-old. 368 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:51,240 That's something I asked them, this is not what I want to know. 369 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:56,080 You can bring me anything positive, but I don't want these things that are too traumatic 370 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:57,080 for me. 371 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:58,080 Interesting. 372 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,440 It did make my family different towards me. 373 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:01,440 I will say that. 374 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:02,880 It made it harder. 375 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,280 They felt judged because they were farming and hunting family. 376 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:11,280 When I came back, even before I take this experience, I just didn't resonate with that, 377 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,520 but it was very profoundly obvious. 378 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:15,880 That's too worth. 379 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,960 Because I knew their thoughts and different things, I always played... My mother called 380 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:19,960 the devil's advocate. 381 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:23,560 I don't like that term, but I could say, well, this is how they're seeing it. 382 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,240 This is how they're experiencing it. 383 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,720 They don't mean to be this way. 384 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,240 I would constantly do that and it drove everyone. 385 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:31,760 I learned to sermon after a while. 386 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:36,920 My mother used to say I was tactlessly honest because I could literally say, I'd be like, 387 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,120 you lie because I could tell when people were lying. 388 00:22:39,120 --> 00:22:40,520 It was bad. 389 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,400 It didn't make life easy. 390 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:47,680 I think you summarized it a minute ago when you said, weird in a good way. 391 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:48,680 Yes. 392 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:49,680 Okay. 393 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,080 Let's fast forward to experience number two. 394 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,440 Correct me if I have any of this wrong, but you're an adult now. 395 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,120 You're undergoing a medical procedure. 396 00:22:58,120 --> 00:23:00,720 You've had anesthesia. 397 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:05,080 Were you allergic to the anesthesia or did they just give you too much? 398 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,040 They gave me too much. 399 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:11,120 I didn't realize I had issues with anemia at that time. 400 00:23:11,120 --> 00:23:12,120 I bled out. 401 00:23:12,120 --> 00:23:14,320 I was bleeding out. 402 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,440 It was at the hospital that I worked for. 403 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:21,840 The doctor was very angry with me, like, why do you wait on having the DNC? 404 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,640 I wanted off the meds the next day because I felt perfectly fine. 405 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:25,640 I argued with him. 406 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,080 He's like, I almost lost you last night. 407 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:28,720 That's another reason I knew I almost died. 408 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,560 He's like, you can stop bleeding again to death. 409 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,560 I'm like, no, I'm fine. 410 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:35,560 I knew I was fine. 411 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,360 I knew I went home for healing. 412 00:23:37,360 --> 00:23:40,560 This one was not a profound experience like the other one. 413 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,400 My grandmother had come to me. 414 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:47,880 She had told me that this was my first pregnancy that I was aware of. 415 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,880 We had heard the baby's heartbeat and everything. 416 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:51,680 I was about three months along. 417 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,200 She came to me and said, this baby is not yours to keep. 418 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:56,480 There will be more. 419 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,240 This is prior to the DNC? 420 00:23:58,240 --> 00:23:59,240 Yes. 421 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:00,240 Yes. 422 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,600 Two weeks before she had come to me and then she showed me the date on the calendar. 423 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,960 This was a visitation and everything played out that way. 424 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:13,160 That night I was babysitting a bunch of my nephews and cousins while their parents were 425 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:14,160 out. 426 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:15,280 Me and my husband were. 427 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:20,320 I started bleeding really heavily in severe pain. 428 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:24,120 We called my mom and they took me to ER. 429 00:24:24,120 --> 00:24:27,320 We determined I needed an emergency DNC and I stopped breathing. 430 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:32,560 I was intubated and gave it a ton of meds because I was bleeding out. 431 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:36,360 I went home for healing so that I could have more children. 432 00:24:36,360 --> 00:24:41,720 I had this whole prerabetic vision in my early 20s about my first child and things that would 433 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:42,720 happen to them. 434 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,040 I knew I was supposed to have children. 435 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:46,880 That was my understanding. 436 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:51,600 My remembrance from later experiences, I just went home and there were these beings around 437 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,000 me that did this healing. 438 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:59,080 It was confirmed by the doctor as well because he said my body, when they did the autopsy 439 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:05,320 or whatever you want to call that, they said that the systems on the baby, her bodily systems 440 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,880 did not enter the penette. 441 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,400 They said it was my body's way of learning how to make a baby and that if I wanted another 442 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,120 baby I had to have one right away. 443 00:25:13,120 --> 00:25:14,120 I did. 444 00:25:14,120 --> 00:25:16,120 I had a rainbow baby. 445 00:25:16,120 --> 00:25:17,120 That was that experience. 446 00:25:17,120 --> 00:25:19,520 It was so weird because I was okay with it. 447 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:25,240 I even went on saying I already had a party scheduled that night and everything else. 448 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,040 I was the one consoling everyone else. 449 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,040 They was fine. 450 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,040 This was supposed to happen. 451 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:30,040 This is part of the plan. 452 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:31,040 All right. 453 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:32,040 Let's go on to the next one. 454 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,000 This one's a little more profound, isn't it? 455 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:42,160 My third one is I lost blood so to my brain during my experience because I was diagnosed 456 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,280 with autoimmune and autonomic nervous issues. 457 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,040 I lost blood flow to my brain. 458 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:52,480 I was in the living room with my husband and my daughter and I was talking to my husband. 459 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,920 Anyway, I'm like, I don't feel right. 460 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:55,920 There's something wrong. 461 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,680 I started backing up. 462 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:06,320 I lost consciousness, but he said I continued to back up and then I collapsed against the 463 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,600 door, but I hit the door, back of my head hit the door jam. 464 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,520 He said I seizureed and slumped over and stopped breathing. 465 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:14,840 I was instantly gone. 466 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,000 I was in this area I call like Heaven City. 467 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:22,120 It was like, it was like the years this mist of blackout, everything else, but I remember 468 00:26:22,120 --> 00:26:27,320 this white mist again when I was on like this, I would say Granite Park bench and I was with 469 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:33,120 this being who looked like my mother, but I didn't say like, I knew it wasn't her energy. 470 00:26:33,120 --> 00:26:35,680 I was very aware of these things. 471 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:41,920 The being was very contrite and like almost supplied that I recognized it wasn't actually 472 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:48,600 her and said like telepathically, like it was for your benefit, we want to keep you calm. 473 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:54,560 This one, I did see like her body and mine only in this sense, I remember her like rubbing 474 00:26:54,560 --> 00:27:00,120 my knee, we're both sitting on this park bench and she was rubbing my knee and she was like, 475 00:27:00,120 --> 00:27:05,040 it's okay, you can stay, you've done enough. 476 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,600 You've put it in a positive balance, kind of how I understood it. 477 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:09,720 You don't have to go back. 478 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,400 You've done enough now. 479 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,400 And I instantly was like, no, my daughter needs me. 480 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,880 I have to go back. 481 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:24,800 And this was through a whole period of remembrance that in another lifetime, I had died on her 482 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:29,720 same soul, we had incarnated in like the 1800s England and I was a cobbler. 483 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:35,840 This is a whole long story to this, but I had died in my wife's arms with her at my feet 484 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:40,360 at the same age and she has past life memories of trying to survive and live on the wharf 485 00:27:40,360 --> 00:27:47,680 after I had died because I was the only means in that time period of income. 486 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:52,720 So I made the decision that I wasn't going to leave her and do the same soul trauma that 487 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,360 I did in that life. 488 00:27:55,360 --> 00:27:57,660 I wasn't going to leave her again at this age. 489 00:27:57,660 --> 00:27:59,640 So I chose to go back. 490 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:05,120 But what's profound about the experience in the past life for remembrance is within this, 491 00:28:05,120 --> 00:28:12,800 what happened was, which I think is important to share as this cobbler, my shop was in town 492 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:17,560 and I was walking back over this cobblestone bridge and it was like dust, very little darker 493 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:23,760 and two robbers came at me because they wanted my coin purse because they saw me close shop, 494 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:24,760 right? 495 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:25,760 They had been watching me or something. 496 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:26,760 They had planned it. 497 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:32,880 And the one had like a little musket handheld type gun on me and demanded my coin purse. 498 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,040 So I gave it to him, but he got greedy. 499 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,200 Then he wanted like my pocket watch, I remember. 500 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,160 And his companions are freaking out like, no, we got enough. 501 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:42,760 You know, it was trying to grab it. 502 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,440 And well, my family's a gun family. 503 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,720 If you know anything about those old muskets, everything that's hair trigger, it went off 504 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,280 and it shot me right under the right rib. 505 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:56,400 And then they were freaking out and being apologetic and like ran off and I made my way home and 506 00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,480 into my home and collapsed my wife's arms and passed away. 507 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:05,040 I remember saying I was so sorry that I loved them, but that always makes me very wishless. 508 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:06,040 Excuse me. 509 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:11,600 But when I came into this particular lives, I had this pain. 510 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,760 Ever since childhood, I had all sorts of doctor visits and tests and they couldn't figure 511 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,800 out what this pain was same spot. 512 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:25,480 And through this experiences and understanding why it happened and how and feeling their emotions 513 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:31,280 and their sorrow for doing it, I was able to release that and I didn't have that pain 514 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:32,280 after that. 515 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:33,280 Okay. 516 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,480 I'm just trying to keep up. 517 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:42,800 Next experience I titled here in my notes, reverse shared death experience. 518 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:43,800 Yeah. 519 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,080 Explain what in the world that means. 520 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:52,480 Well, in that particular experience, I'm the one that experienced death, but I had two 521 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:58,360 friends that validated it and experienced parts of it with you. 522 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,240 How did you die this time? 523 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:05,560 I had some autonomic nervous system issues leading up to it where my body would either 524 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:10,560 freeze up or I would momentarily not be able to swallow or not be able to breathe like 525 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,400 with the week leading up to this. 526 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,480 And I didn't feel very well when I went to bed that night. 527 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:15,480 I said, I feel off. 528 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:16,480 Something's not right. 529 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,960 Well, I stopped breathing in my sleep that. 530 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:19,960 Okay. 531 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:21,160 So then what happened? 532 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,520 What was the most painful about the shared death? 533 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:27,360 Within this experience, my husband and my daughter, who I knew are part of what people 534 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:32,520 might call a soul group of my were present, but they were off to like the left side. 535 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:38,680 In front of me was what I call my, some people might call it twin soul or soulmate. 536 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:39,680 He was in front of me. 537 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,520 I know I'm in this lifetime. 538 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:47,320 And then my other friend was over here and I remember those two, they were all in white. 539 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,720 They looked similar to how they do here. 540 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,320 And it was simultaneously that I was having these conversations with my twin flame and 541 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:54,440 my friend. 542 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:59,160 My first conscious thing was like, like I said, being in this white mist again, nothing 543 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,640 else was this mist that seemed to go on forever. 544 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,560 I call that the quantum space now, but, and I could sense that there were other beings 545 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,120 that didn't go to the parts of my soul family, but they were in physical form because I didn't 546 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,560 recognize their energy kind of thing. 547 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:17,400 So she is over here telling me like, if I want that body, I need to get light back in 548 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:18,920 it now. 549 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:24,920 While he's giving me this whole, I call it, being called the principal's office lecture 550 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:31,080 about and my level of light, I have to be mindful of what I'm creating, you know, with 551 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,240 thoughts, emotions, everything. 552 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,840 So I had this whole knowing and download of all this stuff regarding how those things 553 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,840 are created that we can maybe get into. 554 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:44,240 But, but I was getting yelled at and I told them, I said, like, what do you want from me? 555 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:45,240 Human me is a dit. 556 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,000 I forget these things the minute I'm in a physical body. 557 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,640 Because I remember this thing something on those lines with a conversation with my other 558 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,760 friend that was simultaneously was that she was saying, you know, if you want that body, 559 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,720 ask you back into it now. 560 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:02,240 And I remember asking her how and she's like, you need to swallow. 561 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,440 And then I asked, and that I'm like, how do you start this thing? 562 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,760 We were referring to it as a vehicle, like to experience earth. 563 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,240 I'm like, how do you start this thing? 564 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:12,560 And that's when she said to swallow. 565 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:18,200 And then I'm like, and the second thing, I'll go over the physical manifestation, because 566 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,280 I was aware of my body from this point. 567 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:27,520 So once I swallowed, I took this huge gasp of air in and then it felt like a horse kick 568 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,800 to the inside of my chest as my heart started. 569 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,960 It hurts so bad, but not as bad as what happened next. 570 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,360 Because then once I did that, they were like, okay, now check your body. 571 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:39,360 Can you feel anything? 572 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:40,360 I'm like, I can't feel nothing. 573 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:41,960 I don't feel anything. 574 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:46,280 So they're like, you need to do a systems check and literally called it a systems check. 575 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:47,280 And I understood it. 576 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:51,000 Like there was parts of me that were like more of like the earthly conscious and the 577 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,400 spirit conscious. 578 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,760 And so I knew to move my energy, like starting at my feet. 579 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,440 And as I did that, literally everything, all my nerves came online. 580 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:03,120 Can you imagine like, like, you know how one year I hand falls asleep or you get that tingle 581 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,680 in your elbow amplified through your whole body. 582 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:11,880 It was the most horrendous pain I have ever felt more than my 27 hours of labor. 583 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,080 For real. 584 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:17,520 As those all like became alive again, and my body shook for a good 20 minutes. 585 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,320 I'm a medical assistant. 586 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:20,520 To me, I would call it shock. 587 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:25,800 I don't know, but I literally shipped for 20 minutes after as I got back into my body. 588 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:30,560 That's the whole play out other than like I said, the conversations that I had. 589 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:36,320 But I remember there was like this test with my twin soul. 590 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:41,280 And I remember them telling me there would be a test, but I didn't remember parts of 591 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:42,280 this test. 592 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:47,040 Well, the next day he contacted me saying, you know, he's really sensitive of my energy. 593 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,160 If I'm wounded, if where I am, he's like, you weren't there. 594 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:51,160 You completely disappeared. 595 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:52,160 He's like, I thought you died. 596 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,400 He's like, and there was this whole thing. 597 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:58,480 He's like, I had to do some tests where I had to like, you had, I had a drink of your 598 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:04,840 body and you had to give of yourself in order to do this whole thing. 599 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,920 He had all these memories of it. 600 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,160 And I had different knowings of it. 601 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,240 So that I was like, holy shit, that really did happen kind of thing. 602 00:34:12,240 --> 00:34:13,240 Like what? 603 00:34:13,240 --> 00:34:16,680 And then my other friend called me and she's like, yeah, she's like, I had this whole 604 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,640 vision and I was over your bed and you were laying dead in it. 605 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:20,640 It's like what happened. 606 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:24,320 And I'm like, oh my God, you know, so I knew, you know, that this had really happened. 607 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:28,240 I thought I had a question of it because I physically felt it, but you know, it just 608 00:34:28,240 --> 00:34:29,240 cemented it. 609 00:34:29,240 --> 00:34:34,160 And, and I was really, really, that one took a long time. 610 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,960 I noticed the progression through my NTEs, it took longer, longer to integrate and it 611 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:43,280 was more traumatic in the sense of it's like the more you have to lose, the more traumatic 612 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:44,280 it is. 613 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,720 Like, you know, when I was little, I had not, you know, I hadn't lived a life. 614 00:34:46,720 --> 00:34:52,320 I didn't, it didn't affect the ripple of my existence. 615 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:56,640 What the longer you live, the more souls and then more life past the effect. 616 00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:03,000 So the more your choices, whether to stay or go or things you do affect that ripple, 617 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,000 you know? 618 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:11,080 So I was like, it was more profound that, you know, I had had that experience. 619 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,640 How long do you think you'd stop breathing for? 620 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:18,640 Well, the urgency that like my body wouldn't last much longer than I had to get in it tells 621 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,520 me it had to be a while. 622 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:27,040 And the fact that I remember my jaw being wide open, I remember my mouth being so dry 623 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,960 and all of those things that, that's kind of traumatic for me to remember because that's 624 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:35,560 my mother, when I found her dead was like that, you know, so it very much triggered that 625 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,360 memory like kind of creeps me. 626 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:45,240 So I knew I had possibly been gone a while, especially how much it hurt to try to bring 627 00:35:45,240 --> 00:35:46,240 it. 628 00:35:46,240 --> 00:35:48,800 Well, yeah, and that's what I was thinking about. 629 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:54,160 I mean, it almost sounded like you had been electrocuted or something, the kind of pain 630 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,560 and sort of zapping nerve pain that you were having. 631 00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:58,560 But I think that... 632 00:35:58,560 --> 00:35:59,560 It was systemic. 633 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:00,560 It was, yeah. 634 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:08,240 And I think that the moment that someone stops breathing, their heart stops, whatever, the 635 00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:11,440 body, the physical body starts degrading. 636 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:17,600 So it would make sense that if you felt like you were gone for a while in physical terms, 637 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:23,800 that there would have to be something to go through as far as, I hate to call it a jump-starting 638 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:28,400 because it wasn't only jump-starting your body, but if there had been even a, even a 639 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:33,360 few minutes of degradation, you have to overcome that. 640 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,600 I think that's why I was so capable. 641 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,000 Well, yeah. 642 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,360 And pain is very normal for that kind of thing. 643 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:45,200 I mean, I've interviewed people that have been gone for, you know, pretty much documented 644 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,640 for 45 minutes, hour and a half. 645 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,840 Wow, it's rough coming back after that kind of thing. 646 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:53,840 Bodies in bad shape. 647 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,720 Of course, it was in bad shape to get them to get them dead in the first place, but then 648 00:36:57,720 --> 00:37:03,680 the longer it goes on, the harder it is to come back. 649 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:09,560 We have a whole bunch more to talk about with Lorelai, including her experience in the void, 650 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,960 in fact, a dark void and a light void. 651 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,480 So we're going to go ahead and separate this into two parts. 652 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,360 Part two will be coming out later this week. 653 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:25,320 If you want to be alerted to any time that part two or any other new episodes come out, 654 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:29,720 go on over to roundtriptest.com, sign up for the email newsletter, and you'll get those 655 00:37:29,720 --> 00:37:30,720 alerts. 656 00:37:30,720 --> 00:37:56,120 Until then, I wish you every good thing that you're looking for in this life and the next.