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They cut my clothes and then they paddled my heart, my heart had stopped.

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physical body because I was somewhere else.

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The only thing that I could feel, if you could imagine, absolute love and peace, there wasn't

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anything else to be felt.

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I was greeted by people I'd known in the past.

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On back home again.

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Incredibly safe and felt at home.

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Welcome, welcome to Round Trip Death, everybody.

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And a special warm welcome to two guests that we have today, Regine and Terry.

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And this is horrible.

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I forgot your last names, but I have them here.

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Regine Bailey and Terry Masters, right?

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Who's who?

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I'm Regine, I'm Terry.

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I'm going to give a little explanation before we start and get to know you two because this

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is going to be a very, very unusual episode of the podcast.

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And I'm trying to figure out how even to explain this.

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First of all, we have two people on at the same time because their story goes together

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and it overlaps and it intermingles and intertwines and you'll find that in a few minutes.

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The other thing that I wanted to bring up, I spent last week at the IONS convention for

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this year, which was down in Phoenix.

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And we had some wonderful lectures and presentations about near-death experiences and shared death

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experiences, which is something we'll be talking more about in future episodes of this show.

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like shared near-death experiences, which I promise is a topic that never came up at

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the IONS conference.

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So this is something new for a lot of people and there's going to be some surprises and

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it's going to be a lot of fun.

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And we have hours and hours to talk about and we're going to try to figure out how to

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condense it and make it in some sort of a fashion that makes some sense.

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So good luck to all three of us today.

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And especially to me to figure out how the heck to do this.

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But let's start with letting our listeners get to know you too just a little bit.

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And by the way, Terry and Regine are just best of friends, closest friends, as you'll

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also come to learn.

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But Terry, give us one minute on who is Terry first.

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Hi, my name is Terry Masters.

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Went through cancer, beat it several times.

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Of course, you know, I'm one that had the NDE's.

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I have a widow.

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I have three young boys.

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Well, they're not young.

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They're young men now.

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And I have two great grandbabies that just make my life complete.

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Did you say great grandbabies?

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Or grandbabies that are great.

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But they're all, they're amazing, I should say.

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You didn't look old enough to be great.

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They look good in general.

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Regine.

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All right.

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I'm Regine.

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I live just north of Seattle.

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I'm also widowed.

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I have four children and three grandchildren that are also great that make my life complete

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I have always been Terry's contact person through any medical procedures or emergencies

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or really anything and everything.

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And a lot of times we were, she was 2,000 miles apart from each other when these were

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happening as she would be in West Virginia.

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So we have, everything is documented through text because of that.

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I was never present.

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So we have everything documented in text.

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the experiences that we've gone through.

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So here we are.

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And by the way, thanks for sending the book.

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Dancing in the Sky.

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I got a start on it.

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I haven't finished it yet.

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It is a pretty quick read.

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And it's a beautiful story about two close friends.

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And about going through struggles of cancer and et cetera, et cetera.

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But maybe we should start with Terry.

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Give us just a little bit of, if you don't mind, nothing too personal, but history with

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your diagnosis and a general overview of treatment that you've been through so far.

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It all started out, I was like constantly having heartburn all the time.

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So when it started doing that, I knew I needed to go see a doctor to see what was going on.

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esophageal cancer.

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and my stomach stretched.

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So I had to be on a liquid diet for so long to wait for it to heal up and stuff like that.

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Had to go through the chemo and radiation.

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So any different surgeries have you had?

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the first major surgery and the first, her first NDE.

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air around her heart.

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processed them all yet.

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There's just been a lot of different surgeries that you've had, brain tumors, hemorrhages.

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by a drunk driver who was going 50 miles an hour through an intersection, in addition

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to the other things that were also happening in her life.

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So a lot happened in the two and a half years.

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Well, and even more than that, based on the book, there's an assault.

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There's just, oh my goodness, I can't believe how much you've been through, Terry.

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By the way, I'm hearing a little squeak in the background.

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Is that a dog?

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Just to just smile.

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It's just, we'll pretend it's a happy puppy back there.

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Hopefully he'll stop, but I'm not sure.

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This is going to be a huge number, but you've had about 11 NDE-type experiences now.

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We don't have time to talk about all of them today.

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It, and it does take time, and I get it.

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So, but what, tell us a little bit about the very first near-death experience that you

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guys remember and a little bit about what happened.

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My first one is when I had, after having the radiation and the chemo, it kind of damaged

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some of my blood stem cells, so they had to find a procedure to try to restore those,

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which I had to have a stem cell procedure, which was very risky because it was either

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I do it or I don't.

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If I don't do it, then I've got 0% chance of living.

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If I do it, I've got 20% chance of living.

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I'm scared.

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Tell me about the experience itself.

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I mean, did you actually die on the operating table?

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I don't remember much, much after going under when I went into the operating room.

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As I got to the end where the bright light was, I seen this massive figure and it, you

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know, kind of a little confusing at what I was seeing.

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angels.

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her house.

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They were just a beautiful thing to see.

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I see all these animals and all these flowers.

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It was like Noah's Ark with all the animals were just right there.

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Do you have any idea this first figure or being that you saw who, what that was?

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I want to hear detail about the garden.

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Can you describe trees, plants, whatever you saw?

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with the sense that I've never smelled before.

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Every animal, I mean, it was just, I mean, it's just like they're just all around.

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I mean, just quite beautiful, just so comforting.

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Every animal, can you remember any that you saw?

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Oh, I've seen dogs.

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I've seen cats.

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I've seen, I've seen lines.

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I've seen, I mean, you name it.

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I mean, I've seen every animal as if you would see them walking on Noah's Ark.

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It was just amazing.

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It was mind blowing, to be honest.

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And what happened next after the garden?

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They take me on into the garden and I hear this familiar voice and I knew this voice.

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I knew it was my grandmother.

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was at such a young age and I had never seen her at that age before.

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was waiting for me to show up.

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We just started having a conversation.

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She was just, you know, telling me how proud she was of me for going through all the struggles

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that I've been through and was still going through.

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making it a point to tell me, you know, how well and how far I was coming with everything.

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Was this the grandmother that you were close with?

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This grandmother was like a mother to me.

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Now, you said that she was much young, looked much younger.

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How young?

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Closer to eight or closer to 28?

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That is so neat.

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Was there anything else before the experience ended?

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I wasn't wanting to leave my grandmother, but she kept telling me that, you know, I

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needed to go back, I needed to return because I had things to do, but I wanted to be with

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her because she was like my go-to person for everything.

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And I just didn't want to leave her.

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And as I was like glancing down in the water, I see a reflection and her reflection was

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of Ray Jean's.

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Glad to see her in this reflection, but not the way that I seen her.

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She was like, looked like she was texting on her phone.

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All of a sudden, I see her.

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She's actually at work.

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I see her walk over to one of the co-workers that she worked with.

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And she just like walked to her and she was just shook her head, no.

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into a section of the store that she would never normally work in.

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So I was a little bit confused and was asking how I could get a message to her to let her

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know that I was okay.

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That was a yeah, but you know, that is true.

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You did think that was.

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I didn't.

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So, but she was in the store.

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So we're going to talk about some communication that was in the fourth NDE right now.

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That was in the fourth one.

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And let's, let's take these in order.

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Let's stick with the first one for just a minute.

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Was there anything else to it?

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I did see her.

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I see her in a reflection of the water.

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That's when you were sitting on the couch.

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No, that's at the store.

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You're right.

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So Eric, we're getting kind of confused.

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I'm sorry.

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But the very first one was when you saw me in the store and then that's when your grandmother

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said that you needed to go back and.

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Yeah.

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That's when I'm okay.

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Yes.

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I'm so sorry that I'm getting confused or just like again, there's just so many of them.

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But that's when I did see her in the store and I knew that I needed to let her know that

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I was okay.

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And I knew I needed to return.

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I needed to return for her.

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I needed to return for my kids.

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All of a sudden I kind of felt like I was being weighed down and then I started falling

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at a fast pace.

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And the next thing I know is I woke up in a cold hospital room with my son looking down

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at me, telling me that he would take me home just as soon as they released me.

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Okay.

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Wow.

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That's a lot for anybody to have one experience like that.

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Let's go ahead and jump to number two.

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How much later was number two?

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September of 2020.

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It was about a year and a half later and that was the car accident.

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So she had a, she had the car accident, September of 2020, about a year and a half later and

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a couple months after that was the assault.

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So each one of those were near death experiences.

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And then the fourth one was May of 2021 where she had a brain tumor and she had absolutely

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actually collapsed with it because of the pressure on her brain until she was brought

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into the emergency non-responsive.

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So the fourth one is actually where we had our first communication.

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And I was the contact person for the nurse, so I get a text out of the blue from Terry

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Stone just stating that this was the ER nurse and she wanted to make sure that I was who

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I was and that I was her contact person.

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And I said I was and she told me that I had a decision that I needed to make.

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And she briefly told me that Terry was brought in unresponsive.

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They wanted to know and then looking at her records, they knew that she had a brain tumor.

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They wanted to know if they should call time or if they should hook her up to life support.

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I know you're at this point there was a little bit of history.

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So I knew that she did crash.

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I knew that she did her surgeries were distressing to her, but I knew that she could come back.

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So I mean, I immediately said put her on life support.

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So they did that hoping to stabilize her to be able to do the surgery.

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So it was when she was on life support in this condition that the first text came through

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and from her phone to mine and it was handwritten and it just said, I will always love you.

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And I'm like, oh my God, I immediately was followed by the nursing.

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I did not send them.

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I'm like, oh my God, what just happened?

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Okay, hang on, hang on.

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Yeah.

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Hang on.

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I know.

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I don't want to blow everybody's minds too fast.

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I know.

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You got a little bit ahead of me, but that's okay.

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We'll jump to this spot.

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Whose phone did the text come from, Regene?

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From Terry's phone or the nurses phone?

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Terry's phone.

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So the nurses always, when I would get updates from the nurses that was always on Terry's

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phone.

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Okay.

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So they would always have Terry's phone.

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And then I would get like, like for instance, I know we're jumping around here, but the

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first one that she was talking about, I would, and what she was seeing, she was seeing me

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actually communicating with the nurse and I was getting the updates from that surgery.

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I was crying because they had, she had crashed.

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She was in cardiac arrest.

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They were giving me, she was giving me a countdown, you know, 10, 15, 20, 25.

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And then I lost contact with the nurse.

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There was no contact and I didn't know what to think.

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So I thought she had shit past.

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I thought she had crossed.

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And that's when I walked over to that coworker and just shook my head, no, you know, like

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she didn't make it.

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There weren't many that knew what was going on, but she was one that did.

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And so that's what Terry had seen me and totally validated exactly what I was doing.

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So this was how our communication through the nurses, my communication through the nurses,

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but it always was through Terry's phone.

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Okay.

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So, and we weren't ever, I wasn't ever in a hospital with her.

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So everything was always fight tech.

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Okay.

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So Terry, we're talking about NDE number four now.

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Was this what remind me?

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Was this one surgery or from the accident?

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What was this one from?

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This is when I had a brain tumor and I knew that I was going to have to proceed going

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on with having something to do, you know, have something done with it.

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But I didn't know at the extent how bad it was.

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I was actually working and I had collapsed at work due from the pressure of the tumor,

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you know, cushion on my brain.

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They had rushed me to the hospital and I mean, the only thing I remember once again is being

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in the presence of the angels.

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This time I knew who these angels were because over the first, second, third, I had learned

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who they were.

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Who were they?

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And for instance, on this one, I always have an archangel Michael.

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He's always there because he's like the protector of, you know, he's just a protector of you.

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So he's always in my presence.

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Even had Archangel Azrael there with me this time.

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I was a little confused because, you know, I see my body in a hospital bed and I see

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like all the medical team just frantically working on me.

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So I was really confused at what had happened.

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That's when the team of archangels just come in and take me to the scene of my accident.

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I'm not the car accident.

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I'm sorry.

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I see I'm getting confused.

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That's okay.

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I understand.

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Well, this is like the second time I've talked about it and it's like the first time we knew

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we were only talking about the six and now we didn't know if we were going to be talking

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about all of them and I just got a little confused.

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It's okay.

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And that's what Regine is here for.

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And help keep us all on track.

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Yeah.

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This was the first communication and this was the gen when Archangel Michael brought

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you to again like a clear stream of water and that's when you saw me.

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I was sitting on my couch and I again had my phone and texting with the nurses.

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Yeah.

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That's when you saw me and you asked Archangel.

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Yeah.

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I seem to help me get a message out to her because I seen her sitting on the couch.

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She was upset once again crying and she was petting her dogs.

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Yeah.

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I just didn't want her to be so upset.

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So I was just like, I need help.

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That's when Archangel Michael looked at me and says, what can I do for you that you can't

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do for yourself?

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And that's what I just said.

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I need to relay a message to her to let her know that I'm okay.

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And that's when I learned that you can communicate telepathically with the angels.

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So I asked to relay a message and the message was I wanted to tell her that I will always

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love you.

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She seemed to still be struggling.

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I just decided, all right, I need to keep relaying messages to her.

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I needed to let her know that I was there with her and that I was going to stay by her

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side until she fell asleep because she had done that for me so many times after my surgeries

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and before surgeries.

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So I wanted to do that.

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But she was still struggling.

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So with her struggling like that, it was causing me to start to struggle because I didn't want

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her to be like, yeah, I feel that way.

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I think Archangel Michael realized that.

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So he showed me a way how he was going to help both of us.

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We both had heart stones that we had gotten on a previous trip together.

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That's when Archangel Michael went and retrieved my heart stone and put it in my hand while

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I was in surgery.

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And somehow I held onto that heart stone throughout my whole surgery.

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But I can still clearly see Regine walking out of her house to go to work or wherever

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she was going that day and Archangel Michael stepped in and just had to turn around and

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go retrieve her heart stone.

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Okay.

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For those that don't know, what is a heart stone?

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It's like a crystal that's in the shape of a heart.

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Okay.

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It can also be called a worry stone, but we call it a heart stone because of the shape.

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But it's kind of got a little indent in it and you can hold it and kind of rub it and

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the crystal is rose quartz.

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So it just kind of soothes you and comforts you.

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And so we each had one.

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Do you happen to have one of those here for those that are seeing the video?

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They can see one.

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So this one is actually the tree and this one isn't the rose quartz.

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I think yours is your rose quartz.

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But it's shaped like a heart and in here, there's a little indent.

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So you just kind of hold it in your hand and you just kind of rub it.

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All right, Terry, you were just saying Archangel Michael put that in your hand during surgery?

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Yes.

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Where was it?

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It was in my pants pocket that I was wearing before I went into the hospital.

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So are those pants with the heart stone like in your hospital room, but you're in the surgical

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room?

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Yes.

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And somehow, you know, okay, let's face it, some people are going to have a hard time believing

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some of this stuff.

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So I just want to make it clear.

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Somehow that stone got from your pants pocket into your hand during surgery in a sterile

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environment, right?

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Yes.

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Okay.

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And Regine, where was yours?

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Well, when this happened, this was the following day and she was able to get stable enough

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for them to do the surgery and I had to go to work and so I was leaving knowing that

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the surgery had started and then I just hear this voice, you know, and mine was in, I have

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a big crystal ball, mine was in my crystal ball and just, I just heard, grab your heart

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stone.

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I'm like, okay, so I just went back, grab my heart stone.

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So I was holding, when I went to work, I was holding my heart stone in my hand like pretty

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much all day and just kind of thinking about what was going on.

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She did go through the surgery.

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She did, they were waiting for her to wake up and about this time I get a text from the

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nurse and she's like, oh my God, you're not going to believe it.

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And she's, Terry has a heart stone in her hand.

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She's had this heart stone in her hand and I have no idea where, that she said, there's

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nobody that could have put this in her hand.

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She obviously couldn't, she wasn't even awake yet.

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And so she was kind of freaking out like, oh my gosh, I go, I have that same heart stone

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in my hand.

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So the nurse wasn't supposed to do this, but she actually snapped the picture of Terry's

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hand and sent it to me and I snapped the picture of mine and sent it back.

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And she's like, oh my gosh, this is the same heart stone in the same hand.

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And we both have the same tattoo that says, just breathe, which we got when she first

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was diagnosed with cancer, which is our mantra, you know, just breathe.

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So it was kind of validation.

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And she's like, that we found out later that that was Archangel Michael's way of letting

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us know, or letting me know.

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When I actually said to the nurse, I said, I think that that's validation that she's

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going to be okay.

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At that time, I had no idea that she had the NDE until she actually woke up and we were

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able to talk and validate what we had both gone through.

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You mentioned a minute ago, we're going to talk about it more.

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A text message.

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Again, people, if you want to be skeptical, go ahead.

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I find these, I find Regine and Terry to be very credible.

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We have spoken previously.

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I've read quite a bit of their book.

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What came first, finding out about the heart stone or the text message?

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The text message came first.

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So this was, you know, probably around nine, 10 o'clock at night, my time when I first

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got the message that she was, well, maybe a little early, that she was actually brought

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into the hospital.

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Probably earlier than that.

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The text went on until about midnight.

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When Terry was with me and she said, I'm going to stay with you until you fall asleep.

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I thought, there's no way I'm falling asleep.

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I did.

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I did.

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I did feel her presence that it was comforting and I did fall asleep.

484
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:41,080
We had had a bit of conversation, text back and forth.

485
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,160
I woke up the next morning, my phone was laying next to him, like, oh my gosh, this

486
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:45,160
really happened.

487
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,720
And so then I look at my phone and I'm like, it really happened.

488
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,480
And so then I reached out to the nurse and asked for an update and that's when they told

489
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:57,400
me that she was stable enough to be able to start the surgery.

490
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,320
And at that point, that was the next day.

491
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:04,520
And at that point, I had to go to work and grab my heart stone and it was later on that

492
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:05,520
afternoon.

493
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:10,440
We didn't have any more communication, text or anything, but it was that afternoon when

494
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:15,080
she actually did wake up from the personal jerk.

495
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:20,080
And you were smart enough to take screenshots of a bunch of these text messages.

496
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:24,480
You sent a few to me because I was skeptical and I just had to see him.

497
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,280
Do you mind if I show a couple?

498
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:28,280
Sure.

499
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:29,280
Okay.

500
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:33,800
See if people can read this from my phone.

501
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,640
All right.

502
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,160
There's the one we were talking about.

503
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:40,160
The first one.

504
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:41,160
Yeah.

505
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:45,600
The first one where you said that you wanted to send her this message, I'll always love

506
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:46,600
you.

507
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:52,280
I'm sure there are people out there that are smarter than me that know how to do a hand

508
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,400
written message in a text somehow.

509
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,760
I've never done it.

510
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,000
Do either of you know how to do it?

511
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,400
I did when I had an iPhone.

512
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:08,120
I don't know if that was part of it cause, you know, you just do this like I'll always

513
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:14,040
love you, but through the course of the time they started out as hand written and mostly

514
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:19,400
they were hand written and then kind of towards the end they were more tech like we would

515
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,600
tech.

516
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,360
But it was always when we would have these communications, it was always her.

517
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:26,360
I knew it was her.

518
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,120
She would call me by the same nickname.

519
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:29,720
She would call me Raj.

520
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,000
She would have the same quirky answer.

521
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:38,080
So it was her consciousness was exactly the same as if we were, these texts were exactly

522
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:43,520
as if we would be sitting next to each other exactly how we would text if she was in the

523
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,280
next room.

524
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,360
And did you verify the time on this?

525
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,160
Was this during surgery?

526
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:55,960
That was when, no, that was after, that one was no, that was the first one was before

527
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:56,960
surgery.

528
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:57,960
Okay.

529
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,600
But Tara, you mentioned that you were with Archangel Michael.

530
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,120
Yeah, that was during.

531
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,520
You got that message I will always love you when I was.

532
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,280
I like support before surgery.

533
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,600
So you were on, Tara, you were unconscious.

534
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:11,600
That's the bottom.

535
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:12,760
Yeah, I was unconscious.

536
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:19,040
And I noticed if you look at the very bottom, that note that's from the nurse, right?

537
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,360
Yeah, I did not send that.

538
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:29,680
And it's, yeah, Regene's response to that is OMG and the nurse says I did not send that.

539
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:35,840
So I would be having really a conversation with the nurse on Terry's phone and with Terry

540
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,400
on Terry's phone.

541
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:42,240
So and it's pretty when you read through the dialogue, it's pretty evident on who, I mean,

542
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:47,080
because the rest would be handwritten for one, but it was evident on who the conversations

543
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:52,760
but, but Terry never, ever responded to anything that the nurse would say that conversations

544
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,400
were always only between her and me.

545
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:56,400
Always.

546
00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,080
And it was never, ever like, oh, you know, she would be talking to the nurse and she'd

547
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,360
be talking to him, but it was never that.

548
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:03,360
Okay.

549
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:07,520
That's really cool and super unusual.

550
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,800
Were you both in Seattle then or in different states?

551
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:15,120
Now you were in West Virginia and I was in Seattle.

552
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:21,280
So you were thousands of miles apart when this happened.

553
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:25,320
It's still blowing me away, but there's a whole bunch of these.

554
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:29,360
It's a hundredth of a secret for all of them, all of them saved.

555
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:34,360
As long as we're talking text messages, let's talk about the next one that you sent me,

556
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:38,160
which is this one.

557
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:39,800
Everybody can see that.

558
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:45,080
And my apologies to those that are just listening and not seeing the video.

559
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,440
What we're seeing here is some handwriting.

560
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:54,040
Again, I want to come home and then some stick figure kind of drawings that I wasn't sure

561
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:58,880
what they were at first until you said, and we'll talk about those.

562
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,640
And those were angels, right?

563
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,720
And Ray Jean says, fight Terry.

564
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:09,720
And then ask, are those angels that were drawn?

565
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:15,120
And the response is, yes, that's who I'm with.

566
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:16,440
Which NDE was this?

567
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,240
What's going on here, Terry?

568
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,760
That was when I had fluid around the heart.

569
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:21,960
You said, okay.

570
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:28,240
That was my 10th NDE, August of 2022.

571
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,240
Do you remember any of this?

572
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,800
Terry, do you remember what you were experiencing?

573
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:34,800
I do.

574
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:40,960
I was actually going around with Archangel Joffiel.

575
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,320
I think that's when I described it.

576
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,480
I felt like I was a character in the Jetsons.

577
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,520
Just going around with all the freedom in the world.

578
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,320
Just no worries.

579
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,360
Give me a whole bunch more detail.

580
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:58,120
Who is this angel and where were you flying to and how is that all working?

581
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:02,920
We were just flying around the clouds, bright skies.

582
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,120
Archangel Joffiel is always with me.

583
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:11,960
And the reason that Archangel Joffiel is there, because she helps you with self-love and self-care,

584
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:17,720
again, something I struggle with, even still to this day, she was just trying to teach

585
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:22,800
me a lesson that I needed to have more self-love for myself.

586
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,920
I needed to care for myself like I do for others.

587
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,520
I seem to always put others way above myself.

588
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:35,840
We were just flying around as she's trying to teach me lessons on self-worth, seeing the

589
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,880
self-love and the caring love for others.

590
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:45,720
I don't know how much more to explain except that I was flying around.

591
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:51,640
Flying is probably very hard to believe, but it's real.

592
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:52,640
It happened.

593
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:58,280
You know, sometimes this is the hardest part to tell this, because you got so many people

594
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:02,120
that's not going to believe it, but they don't have to.

595
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:03,120
I was there.

596
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:04,440
I went through it.

597
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:05,440
It happened.

598
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,320
It's something I'll never forget.

599
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,200
Going through all this and doing this, this has helped me realize that I'm not afraid

600
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:13,200
to die anymore.

601
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,360
If it's my time, I'm ready.

602
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,760
How do you know this wasn't just a dream?

603
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,200
Lots of us have dreams of flying, right?

604
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:28,640
I think that what makes it real is the communication that was coming through on my end.

605
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:33,960
Then also me talking with the nurse, she had gone in to remove fluid that was around her

606
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:39,000
heart and she had immediately crashed, which was typical.

607
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,640
She immediately went into cardiac arrest.

608
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,680
There wasn't a lot of communication on this one.

609
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,880
She was just basically telling me who she was with, which every time she had an NDE,

610
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:51,160
that was always her main thing of telling me who she was with, what she was doing.

611
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:57,120
She just didn't want me to worry and just to try to let me know that she was going

612
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:58,360
to come back.

613
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:02,640
I didn't always know that, you know, that if she was or not, because you have always

614
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,400
given choices.

615
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:11,400
This particular one, it was short and it was when she did not have a lot of communication,

616
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,080
but I knew that she was with.

617
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:17,960
It was funny on this one because then when she did, you know, they did revive her and

618
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:23,520
she did wake up from the procedure, she immediately wanted to grab her phone, which she always

619
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,040
did from the nurse and let me know.

620
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,120
Oh my gosh, she said, I was with Jo-Fiel and I'm like, I know.

621
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:29,720
She's like, how do you know?

622
00:35:29,720 --> 00:35:31,240
I think, because you told me.

623
00:35:31,240 --> 00:35:34,560
Then we started talking, I did.

624
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:38,240
She said, I was flying with the angels and I said, you told me that.

625
00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:42,440
Then, then you told me this, which is funny about her wanting to be your BFF.

626
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,440
Oh, no, I've already got to be.

627
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:46,440
If I can't, yeah.

628
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:50,120
Yeah, our cage is actually after to beat her BFF.

629
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:51,520
An angel, an angel.

630
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:52,640
And we laughed so much.

631
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:53,640
We still laugh about that.

632
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:54,640
And she declined.

633
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:55,640
She declined.

634
00:35:55,640 --> 00:36:01,960
I think it was because I had so many encounters with her to where I'd struggle with the self-care

635
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,720
and she was always there to try to beat that into me.

636
00:36:05,720 --> 00:36:12,280
And it was just, because she felt like, hey, we have a lot of meetings, so we need to just

637
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:13,280
be best friends.

638
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,400
Oh, wow, they do that.

639
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:16,400
I already got that.

640
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:17,400
I love it.

641
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,320
Well, that's a big compliment for you, Regene.

642
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,040
You took precedent over a real life.

643
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,360
I think if an angel would ask me to beat their BFF, I would have said, sure, there.

644
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:27,840
You see, we have that sentiment.

645
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:28,840
We have that.

646
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,360
I took precedent over a real life angel.

647
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,280
All right, can I ask about this one?

648
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:34,280
This one is longer.

649
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:35,840
I see it.

650
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,160
It's a little peak.

651
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:43,360
First I'm seeing Regene and the nurse are texting back and forth.

652
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:48,200
And the nurses say, I'm blown away by this.

653
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:52,560
By the way, how did the nurses feel when they saw this happening?

654
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:53,560
It varied.

655
00:36:53,560 --> 00:37:00,280
For a lot of this, I'd say about two thirds of this, it was the same nurse.

656
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,600
And this nurse was very spiritual.

657
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:06,880
So I think maybe that's maybe why it was so much was happening and it was happening with

658
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,840
her, but it wasn't always the case.

659
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:14,920
In fact, the very last one that she had, the last two were different nurses, different

660
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:16,420
hospitals.

661
00:37:16,420 --> 00:37:20,400
The very last one, she's like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, I'm not doing this.

662
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:21,400
I'm not doing this.

663
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:26,520
And I think the one that you have there, I think was one of the nurses that didn't want

664
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:27,520
to deal with it.

665
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,200
And I would always encourage the nurse, I said, just please, just stay with it because this

666
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:34,320
is how she communicates with me and I just need to know.

667
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,760
But they weren't always receptive about it.

668
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,520
Well, it could be very scary.

669
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:41,520
Yeah.

670
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:47,560
And the one nurse that did see most of it, at one point I had asked her, I said, have

671
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,440
you told anybody about this?

672
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:53,440
And she's like, absolutely not.

673
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:57,560
So this one says, let me read it and you guys explain it.

674
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:02,000
If Lisa a hug for me, I will.

675
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,000
Who's Lisa?

676
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:04,960
Lisa is Ray Jean's daughter.

677
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:10,960
I had finally got to meet her kids for the first time and I just wanted to get a message

678
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:15,600
to all of them that, you know, I enjoyed meeting them and.

679
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:20,200
Well, the rest of it reads, tell your other kids, I'm glad I got to meet them.

680
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:21,960
Please take care of yourself.

681
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:22,960
Thank you.

682
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:23,960
We all love you.

683
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:24,960
Who's we?

684
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:25,960
And I said that.

685
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,760
So that was my response.

686
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:28,760
Yeah.

687
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:29,760
Your response.

688
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:30,760
Yeah.

689
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:31,760
Okay.

690
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:32,960
I have another question.

691
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:38,840
Because you two were able to communicate back and forth while Terry was in the spiritual

692
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,600
realm.

693
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:42,600
Did you.

694
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:49,240
Ray Jean pass any messages through her to other people that you love that have passed

695
00:38:49,240 --> 00:38:50,240
on?

696
00:38:50,240 --> 00:38:52,560
No, you know, and that's such a great question.

697
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:53,760
And I thought about that.

698
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:54,760
Why?

699
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,320
I asked any of that, but I didn't.

700
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:03,640
It was also, well, it was also, I guess it was always kind of a shock that this was actually

701
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,400
happening, but I was just so focused on where are you?

702
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:08,800
Who are you with?

703
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:09,800
Are you coming back?

704
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,360
I mean, I would always ask that, are you coming back?

705
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:17,560
You know, or fight, you know, come back, you know, you have a lot to live for.

706
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:23,000
I think at first when you were having the NDE's, at first she was like being told, no, it's

707
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,320
not your time.

708
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,560
And it was like you have a choice.

709
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,320
And then at the end, the last one, it wasn't even about that.

710
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:34,880
It was about just being with the angels and they were just kind of giving you just different

711
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,380
lessons.

712
00:39:36,380 --> 00:39:38,720
Tell me about some of the other NDE's.

713
00:39:38,720 --> 00:39:40,320
What things stand out to you?

714
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:41,680
What other things do you remember?

715
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,680
I love the picture of the beautiful garden.

716
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,760
What else might people want to hear about?

717
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:48,120
That was the last one.

718
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:49,600
Yeah, the last one.

719
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:54,640
That's when I had the air around the heart.

720
00:39:54,640 --> 00:40:01,200
I just found myself always high above again in the presence of the angels.

721
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:06,800
But this time I was kind of like dancing and singing with the cherubs.

722
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:12,080
These cherubs was a little different than what an ordinary cherub would be.

723
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:17,800
They possess like two sets of wings and four faces.

724
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:22,880
One of a man, a man's face, which represented for love.

725
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,840
Then you had the eagle, which represented wisdom.

726
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:32,120
You had a bull for strength and a lion for courage.

727
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:33,120
That wasn't scary.

728
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:38,320
You would think that they would be scary, you know, four heads, two sets of wings, but

729
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:43,520
they were the most con, compassionate cherubs ever to me.

730
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:47,120
I mean, well, of course, you know, often do you meet cherubs.

731
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,360
But not too often.

732
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:50,360
Yeah.

733
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:57,040
So we were just like just sort around, flying around.

734
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:01,600
But the one thing that stands out to me is that we're flying around to this song called

735
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,040
Dancing in the Sky.

736
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:10,920
And it just hit home for me because it was a way for me to come back to tell Ray Jean

737
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:19,800
exactly what I had seen in all these experiences when I did have my NDAs with the angels and

738
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,440
what it was like.

739
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:27,480
I couldn't wait to get back to play that song for her and to just see how she responded

740
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:33,840
to it to let her know that that's how I was seeing it.

741
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,640
Was that a song you only heard there or is that a song here?

742
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:41,360
That was the first time that I heard that song, but it is a song.

743
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:42,360
Okay.

744
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:43,360
I've never heard it.

745
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,720
So you'll have to send it to me or something.

746
00:41:46,720 --> 00:41:47,720
Beautiful.

747
00:41:47,720 --> 00:41:49,520
I never had heard the song either.

748
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:54,360
And then I immediately, you know, YouTube it by Danny and Lizzie.

749
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:55,360
Yeah, Danny and Lizzie.

750
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:56,360
Yeah.

751
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:57,360
Beautiful.

752
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:58,360
Beautiful song.

753
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,480
What kinds of things did you learn from all this?

754
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:07,360
These NDE's are not just for fun and for a show or something.

755
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:08,360
What did you learn?

756
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:14,320
I kind of had a hard life growing up and, you know, when I lost my grandmother, my grandmother,

757
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:21,520
it just, it took a real toll on me because she's the one that kind of kept me just grounded

758
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,280
to know that I was worth something.

759
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:31,280
And then I lost my husband like two or three months before I was diagnosed with my cancer.

760
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:32,280
I was just struggling.

761
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:39,160
I mean, I was in a really hard spot and I don't know if I had to go through these NDE's to

762
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:44,520
understand that I am worth something and that I need to learn to have self-care for

763
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:50,400
self-care and self-love for myself and to see others in a different way than what I

764
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:56,960
was seeing because I was, I was kind of bitter, kind of angry, just not wanting to live.

765
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:01,760
And I had more than enough to live for, I just wasn't seeing it at the time.

766
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:07,680
And I'm not too sure that that's not why I was crashing to learn some lessons, to see

767
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,400
that I still had a point to be here.

768
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:15,400
And then, you know, finally it's just, it was sinking in that I do have people that do

769
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,440
care for me.

770
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:22,760
You know, not always is your immediate family is the ones that need to be in your life.

771
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,280
It's the ones that want to be in your life.

772
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,000
And I think I needed to be showed that.

773
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:33,040
And again, I mean, I'm still amazed at her because I didn't even know her.

774
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:38,480
I just started working for her in her department and I knew I had cancer and I knew I was going

775
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:39,480
to need time off from work.

776
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:44,080
And I just, yeah, that's when I went to her and, you know, we talked about it and she

777
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,040
offered her support and all that.

778
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:48,240
And I knew I needed somebody.

779
00:43:48,240 --> 00:43:51,920
So that's when I, you know, that's when I decided that I was going to let her be there

780
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,160
for me.

781
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:57,000
That's when I let doctors and all that know that I, that she was going to be my emergency

782
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:02,440
contact because I didn't have anybody else that wanted to be there for me, I should say,

783
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:03,440
in a way that I needed it.

784
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,280
Of course, your kids are going to be there, but you don't want to put all that on your

785
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,400
kids.

786
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:14,560
It just amazes me how a complete stranger can walk into your life not knowing you and

787
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:19,880
just want to be there to help you in the ways that you are needing it at that time in your

788
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:20,880
life.

789
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,000
I know my kids are my life.

790
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:28,440
I know sometimes it's hard for people to understand that and, you know, that, but go through something

791
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:32,240
like that and it'll totally change your mind on some stuff.

792
00:44:32,240 --> 00:44:33,740
Sure.

793
00:44:33,740 --> 00:44:38,640
Besides meeting your grandmother, was there anybody else that you knew that you met in

794
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,120
any of these experiences?

795
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:45,360
No, you know, most of the time I was just, just in, in the presence of the angels.

796
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:52,160
And I think again, it was just trying to show me things that I was struggling with in life.

797
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,440
I always wanted to, to see my husband.

798
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,040
I never did.

799
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,760
And I, let's like, me and Rageen talked about it.

800
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:04,000
I think that was a reason, you know, because I grieved him so much.

801
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:09,800
I mean, I've just gotten to hear recently to where it doesn't bother me that he's no

802
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:14,320
longer here because I know where he's at and I know he's better in a better place.

803
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:18,400
Like at that time, if I had, had any kind of contact with him, I don't think I ever

804
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:23,040
would have returned because I wouldn't have anyone believing.

805
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:27,640
Deeply my heart believed that's why I never had any kind of connection with him during

806
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:28,640
any of that.

807
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:33,920
Do you have any thoughts on other people who may be going through some similar things,

808
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:39,080
whether it's a friend or relative and some kind of a loved one who is going through some

809
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:45,320
really difficult things, whether it's surgeries or whatever?

810
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:50,440
Is there a way that we could actually learn to do some of this communication that you

811
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:51,440
too had?

812
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:57,920
Well, for me, if you're referring to the angels, if you just have a desire to connect, your

813
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,200
angels are always there with you.

814
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:01,400
Just ask.

815
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:08,920
Just be open to receive different ways of knowing that they, they're answering your, your prayers.

816
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:15,880
And as far as finding a friend like Regine, you hear all the time that that friendships,

817
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:17,320
the hardest thing to find.

818
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,560
And if you find it, don't ever let go of it.

819
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:24,080
Yeah, we, we have our ups and downs, but it's life.

820
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:29,800
You go through struggles, but if you have that one person, and you know, and I struggled

821
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:34,360
at first, I struggled with wanting to let her help me because I felt like I was a burden

822
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:35,360
on her.

823
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:39,880
And I didn't want to place that on her because at that time she was going through some hard

824
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:40,880
stuff.

825
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:45,840
Everybody's going through something, whether we know it or not, but I struggled with that.

826
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:50,760
That was at one of the times that's when Michael, I was probably in the presence of the angels

827
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:54,760
and that's when, you know, one time Michael had to print to me that she was there for

828
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:55,960
me.

829
00:46:55,960 --> 00:47:00,840
If you got that person, let him help you because you definitely need the help.

830
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,000
Well, thank you.

831
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:07,120
Before I let you two go, are there any other lessons that you'd like to share?

832
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,920
I think just to know that love, love never dies.

833
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:10,920
Exactly.

834
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:11,920
It doesn't.

835
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,960
We, we don't, we don't die.

836
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:14,960
We're energy.

837
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:15,960
You can't kill energy.

838
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:16,960
It just transforms.

839
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:23,280
And just to know that we're all, we all have the same entourage of angels and spirit guides

840
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,040
and loved ones around us.

841
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,280
We all have it and we're all worthy of that.

842
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,600
We're all worthy of that love.

843
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:35,400
And I think the reason we're talking about this, as you can tell it, so it's difficult

844
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,320
to talk about and it's, we're still processing it.

845
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,920
We will for years and years.

846
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,800
Just to know that there is an afterlife.

847
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,000
We don't die or loved ones are with us.

848
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:54,720
And in fact, my father who died, who passed when I was, you know, in the early 20s and

849
00:47:54,720 --> 00:48:01,360
my mom and him divorced when I was like five, I have a better relationship in spirit than

850
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:05,720
I had with him when he was actually in a physical form.

851
00:48:05,720 --> 00:48:10,960
So I just think that, that hopefully will help those that are grieving the loss of a

852
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:15,680
loved one or that are afraid of death or have actually had an NDE that are trying to process

853
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:16,760
it themselves.

854
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:17,760
They're not crazy.

855
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,680
Yeah, they're the other side.

856
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,160
They're much better off on the other side.

857
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,280
I mean, they're happy.

858
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:30,960
They're, they're, they're in no more pain if they was in pain while they were here.

859
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:32,680
Just knowing that helps me.

860
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:38,320
Terry, you mentioned earlier about feeling no worries, feeling comfortable.

861
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,200
Were there any other feelings that were there?

862
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,960
Some people describe love and other things like that.

863
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:47,920
Oh, there's nothing but love on the other side.

864
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,080
That's all you feel.

865
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:56,360
There's love, compassion, I just, I wish everybody just had a chance to just do it once and

866
00:48:56,360 --> 00:49:01,720
then they would know that they would just, they would know how of an awesome place it

867
00:49:01,720 --> 00:49:04,920
is because there's no worries.

868
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:06,560
There's, there's no hurt.

869
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,560
There's no bad.

870
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:09,760
There's no ugly.

871
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,440
And here we have all that.

872
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:13,940
All right.

873
00:49:13,940 --> 00:49:17,520
Thank you so much, Regine Bailey and Terry Masters.

874
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:18,520
Thank you.

875
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,240
Thank you for being with me.

876
00:49:20,240 --> 00:49:23,400
We'll have your link to your book and the show notes.

877
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:24,400
Wow.

878
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,160
Story blew me away.

879
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:27,160
Thank you.

880
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:30,560
Thank you for having me.

881
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,360
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882
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:39,440
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883
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:43,720
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884
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885
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