1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:08,400 From the time that they pronounced me deaf was a good 45 minutes. 2 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:13,440 They cut my clothes and then they paddled my heart, my heart had stopped. 3 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:18,120 And I could see people screaming and crying, but I didn't realize that was actually my 4 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,320 physical body because I was somewhere else. 5 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:27,400 The only thing that I could feel, if you could imagine, absolute love and peace, there wasn't 6 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,400 anything else to be felt. 7 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,560 I was greeted by people I'd known in the past. 8 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:34,240 I'm back home again. 9 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:39,240 Incredibly safe and felt at home. 10 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,120 Welcome, welcome to Round Trip Death, everybody. 11 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:48,240 And today we are traveling clear over to Zurich, Switzerland to meet with our new friend Dennis 12 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:49,240 Bullock. 13 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:50,240 And Dennis, welcome. 14 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:51,240 How are you? 15 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,080 Great, great, great. 16 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,160 Tell me how your day is going already. 17 00:00:55,160 --> 00:01:02,240 My day is going great because I love to do interviews, to share my experiences and to 18 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:07,280 help humanity become more aware of who they really are. 19 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:13,520 So before we get going, and I'm going to let our listeners know this is going to be a spectacular 20 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:21,920 interview today because we're going to hear about Dennis's really cool spiritual experience 21 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:28,840 that he had before he had his near-death experience, if I can put a different label on them, if 22 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:30,360 you don't mind, Dennis. 23 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:31,360 Sure. 24 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:36,400 So we're going to hear about that first and then get into his more classic, you know, 25 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,560 dying and combat kind of experience. 26 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,440 But first tell us who's Dennis. 27 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,480 Let us get to know you a little bit. 28 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:49,680 Okay, Dennis Bullock is a musician, saxophonist, a singer. 29 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,560 Like with a lot of famous people. 30 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,840 Go ahead and name drop a little bit. 31 00:01:54,840 --> 00:02:05,200 Oh, Quincy Jones, David Sambal and Marcus Miller, The Stylistics, James Brown, Prince, 32 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,400 Chaka Khan. 33 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,520 That's all. 34 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:13,840 Nobody too big besides James Brown, Prince, et cetera. 35 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:15,640 No, those are huge. 36 00:02:15,640 --> 00:02:18,400 So you've been a professional musician for how long? 37 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:19,920 All my life. 38 00:02:19,920 --> 00:02:20,920 All my life. 39 00:02:20,920 --> 00:02:28,400 I mean, that music was a thing that drawed me, you know, singing and playing saxophone. 40 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,960 I'm a saxophonist and a singer. 41 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,600 My mother bought me my first saxophone. 42 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,560 So that's when I started to play. 43 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,800 So what brought you to Zurich? 44 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,960 Well, there's a Montreux Jazz Festival. 45 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:47,840 They have every year and they have all types of people from all around the world come to 46 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,040 perform at the festival. 47 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:57,040 So I wanted to be in that festival and I got a Swiss agent because I saw that a lot of 48 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:02,240 the famous artists, they all had Swiss Asians, you know, like Al Jarrell when he was alive, 49 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:08,320 Santana when he was alive, George Benson, Chaka Khan, you know, all of the really big 50 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,720 names, they all had Swiss agents. 51 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:15,000 So I said, well, I want to get a Swiss agent. 52 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:22,680 So I got a Swiss agent and then he booked me for the Montreux Jazz Festival and I liked 53 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:23,680 it here. 54 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,880 So I've been in Switzerland ever since. 55 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:28,560 I've got to come visit you. 56 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:29,560 Oh, sure. 57 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,280 It's a lot of mountains. 58 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:32,520 It's kind of a mix. 59 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:40,600 It's kind of, I kind of call it like the California of Europe sort of. 60 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:47,200 But without the stress and without the danger zone because we have a lot of mountains here. 61 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:54,520 So you get a choice of you can go city, city life or you can go nature mountain life. 62 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,480 So that's why I'm kind of in between. 63 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:03,640 I'm not directly in the city, about 45 minutes out of the city and I'm in the nature. 64 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:08,800 So where they grow the wine, the vineyards and there's some mountains and stuff like 65 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:12,080 that because I like nature. 66 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,960 I haven't done any skiing in Europe yet. 67 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:15,960 It's a bucket list. 68 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:17,560 So I'm going to get over there one of these days. 69 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,840 Well, if you come over the side, you're going to call me, man. 70 00:04:20,840 --> 00:04:23,080 So I can show you around. 71 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:24,200 I'd love it. 72 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:25,680 I would love it. 73 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,000 Okay. 74 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:28,240 Let's jump right into it. 75 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,440 Let's go back to when you were living in Montreal. 76 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:36,240 And we're going to talk about your experience with your mother shortly after she passed 77 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:37,480 on. 78 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:38,840 Give us a little background. 79 00:04:38,840 --> 00:04:40,880 What was your relationship like with her? 80 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,760 Maybe your family upbringing just a little bit. 81 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:52,520 Well, my family upbringing was my father was a Marine and a cop. 82 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:57,120 So it was very dutiful and very strict. 83 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:58,720 Okay. 84 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,040 My mother was the total opposite. 85 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:05,040 My mother was light, love, fun, joy. 86 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:10,040 She's the kind of person that would come show me in the morning, come look at the birds, 87 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:11,040 look at the birds. 88 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:12,040 They're so beautiful. 89 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:13,040 Listen, listen. 90 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,280 She was the joy of my life. 91 00:05:15,280 --> 00:05:19,280 My father was just more, he loved me, but it was more of a duty. 92 00:05:19,280 --> 00:05:21,240 What do you want for Christmas? 93 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:22,240 Okay. 94 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:23,240 Here's your Christmas present. 95 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:24,240 What do you want for a birthday? 96 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:25,240 Okay. 97 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:26,240 Here. 98 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:27,240 But that's it. 99 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:32,640 He didn't, my father loved me in a dutiful way where my mother really showed her emotions 100 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:34,960 about everything. 101 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,520 She was a very positive person. 102 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,080 So she gave me the love that I needed. 103 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:47,880 My father just more was like a discipline, duty, responsibility, because of his upbringing. 104 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,560 He came from a military family. 105 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,000 So that's basically it. 106 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:57,560 My mother worked very, very close because she quit her job to marry my father. 107 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,800 And back in those days, that was how it was. 108 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,600 She saved her money for three years and bought me my first saxophone. 109 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:08,440 And my mother and I was very, very close. 110 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:13,760 She was the light and the joy in my life for sure, without a doubt. 111 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:14,760 Yeah. 112 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,560 That was pretty much the relationship with my mom. 113 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,800 So what happened to her? 114 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,080 Well, she got sick. 115 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:28,400 She got lung cancer and then she died. 116 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:33,400 And when she died, it was like somebody turned out the lights in my life, like the light 117 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,600 switch click. 118 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,960 My world was crashing. 119 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:43,880 After the first two weeks that she died, I started to drink every night. 120 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,880 I would go to the bar, drink, come. 121 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:51,720 I was living in Montreal, Canada, come home and sit on the side of the turn up, come in 122 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:56,280 my room, turn out the light and sit on the side of my bed and cry myself to sleep every 123 00:06:56,280 --> 00:06:57,440 night. 124 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:03,680 And I did that for about a week and a half until this one night. 125 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:09,840 This night I was doing my usual routine, came in my room, turned out the light, sat on the 126 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:15,280 side of my bed and I went to go untie my sneakers. 127 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:21,360 But when I went to go untie my sneakers, I noticed that there was light on the ground. 128 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,440 And I said, that can't be. 129 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:25,440 I know. 130 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:26,560 I turned out the light. 131 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,280 That's impossible. 132 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:29,960 And this is the crazy part. 133 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:37,720 When I looked up, when I looked up, it was like the sun you see in the sky was in my 134 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,280 room, literally. 135 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:48,640 I looked at this with my mouth open like that and it was like a wave from the ocean covered 136 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,440 me, but the water was love. 137 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,160 It was like that. 138 00:07:53,160 --> 00:08:00,880 Love just washed over me and if that wasn't enough, there was these two stars inside the 139 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:05,040 sun, which was God, which I found out later. 140 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,400 And they just floated out to me. 141 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:14,200 And as they floated out to me, I noticed that the smaller star was my mother. 142 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:17,600 And the first thing I said, mom, because I knew, I felt it. 143 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,520 I felt it so deeply. 144 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:29,280 I said, mom, it's like that over there because it was so much love that it was like I won 145 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,280 the lottery for a billion dollars. 146 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:38,120 I'm in Hawaii and I'm sitting on the beach and everybody around me just loves me. 147 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:39,640 It was like that. 148 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:41,800 It was so much. 149 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:47,800 And so she floated out to me and she started to talk to me. 150 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:54,560 But the way she was talking to me, like I'm talking to you right now, but the conversation 151 00:08:54,560 --> 00:08:59,560 was kind of also being shot into my body, which means like I felt the conversation in 152 00:08:59,560 --> 00:09:02,040 my body as she was talking. 153 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:03,720 I could feel it. 154 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,040 Every word was in my body. 155 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:12,600 And it was a kind of like a telepathy, even though I could hear her clear like I'm talking 156 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:18,200 to you, but it was just being shot into me, that whole conversation. 157 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,120 Just a higher form of communication. 158 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,400 Oh, much higher. 159 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:23,480 Much higher. 160 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:24,880 And did she look like her? 161 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:26,440 Because you mentioned a star. 162 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:27,960 Yes, she stayed. 163 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:28,960 She stayed. 164 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:34,880 No, she stayed as like a light of star, a light, like a star. 165 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:40,040 She stayed like that, but she was talk like, like a star was just talking to me. 166 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:41,600 That's how she was doing it. 167 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:46,120 She said, I'm going to tell you the future in one week that you're going to know that 168 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:47,240 this is not a dream. 169 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:48,240 This is not fake. 170 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,040 This is not an illusion. 171 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:54,520 She said, you're going to get a job next week. 172 00:09:54,520 --> 00:10:00,840 And she said, you're going to, there's going to be a guy at this club, a bouncer. 173 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:06,120 And she said, he's going to be a homosexual and he's going to be a psychopath. 174 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:12,480 Now she said, whatever you do, don't get into an argument with him. 175 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:16,480 And then she started to talk about timeline. 176 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:22,120 She said, there's two timelines that will happen if you get into an argument with him. 177 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:25,000 The first timeline, he will kill you. 178 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:29,800 The second timeline, he will kill him, but you go to jail for the rest of your life for 179 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:30,800 murder. 180 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:36,560 And she said, one of these two timelines are going to happen if you get into an argument 181 00:10:36,560 --> 00:10:37,760 with him. 182 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,840 And I said, no, no, mama, I listened to what you're going to say. 183 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:42,720 I'm so happy to see you. 184 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:46,200 Of course I do exactly whatever you tell me. 185 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:51,280 And she said, and there's another thing, your girlfriend, she has three kids that you don't 186 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:52,880 know about. 187 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:56,200 And she's going to try to have a fourth kid with you. 188 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:57,720 So be careful about that. 189 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,400 And then there was a pause in the conversation. 190 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:05,840 And then I said, but mom, who is this other light that's with you? 191 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:07,760 Because this light was bigger than her. 192 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:13,360 This light was like seven feet, seven foot tall light. 193 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:19,520 And when I asked her, who was this light, this light spoke to me, said, I'm an escort. 194 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,520 I escorted your mother to the earth. 195 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:23,520 And I said an escort. 196 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:24,520 Oh, wow. 197 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,680 Well, I said, I got some questions. 198 00:11:27,680 --> 00:11:30,120 And as I said, you know, I have God in my room. 199 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,240 My room is like Star Wars right now. 200 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:33,560 It's all lit up. 201 00:11:33,560 --> 00:11:35,440 So I said, I got some questions. 202 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,600 I want to know who's going to be my wife. 203 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,240 How many kids I'm going to have? 204 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,480 Why am I here? 205 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,640 And this, I call it like an angel. 206 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:51,000 It said, I'm going to answer all your questions, but you won't be allowed to remember only what 207 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,560 your mother says. 208 00:11:53,560 --> 00:12:01,360 So it answered every question I asked, but I could only remember what my mom said. 209 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:07,520 And then my mother told me after the angel said that, then my mother said, I love you 210 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:16,080 and I'll always be around you, but you won't realize that I'm around you like I am tonight. 211 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:21,000 You won't realize it as much, but I'll always be around you. 212 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:25,880 And then she said she loved me and then they both floated back to the sun. 213 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:29,800 That was like waiting in my room patiently back to the sun. 214 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:37,360 And then my lights started to dim like ice cubes in a glass melting slowly, but surely 215 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,920 my room got dark and dark and dark. 216 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,600 And when it totally got dark, tears burst out my eyes. 217 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:49,320 Man, they just burst out my eyes because I said, nobody's ever going to believe this. 218 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,920 Nobody's ever going to believe this happened, man. 219 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:56,680 Nobody's going to believe this, but I got the proof. 220 00:12:56,680 --> 00:12:57,680 Okay. 221 00:12:57,680 --> 00:13:01,720 Before you hop into that, I want to interject just a couple of things and I want to hear 222 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:03,320 about the proof. 223 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:08,200 It's interesting that you said you learned all these things, had all the questions answered, 224 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,640 but you couldn't remember them. 225 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,080 That is not unusual. 226 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,600 I've had other people on the show tell me similar things. 227 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:25,320 For example, one person said, I was shown the creation of the world and how it happened. 228 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,320 And I can't remember it. 229 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:28,520 I know I saw it. 230 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,360 I know I learned it, but I can't remember it. 231 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,960 And many other things similar to that. 232 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:40,920 And I have ideas of why I think maybe that is, maybe it's better for us or something. 233 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:46,440 But isn't it interesting that you would be taught something that you would not be able 234 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:47,920 to remember right now? 235 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:48,920 Like what's the point? 236 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:50,680 Have you thought about that? 237 00:13:50,680 --> 00:13:57,840 Well, the thing is, is that at that time, I hadn't met my kids or who I'm going to marry 238 00:13:57,840 --> 00:13:59,920 or I hadn't met them. 239 00:13:59,920 --> 00:14:06,080 And maybe if they had told me, I would have influenced the future somehow, you know, because 240 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:10,280 it was obvious that they knew, my mother knew the future. 241 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:11,880 I look at it like this. 242 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:17,480 We're on the bottom floor, but they're in the Empire State Building at the top. 243 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:21,560 They can see all around in the future in the past. 244 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:22,680 They can see it all. 245 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:26,800 We can only see the ground floor, which is right in front of us. 246 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:34,960 So that's why at that time, those specific questions, if I had remembered, it might have 247 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:43,680 influenced me in the wrong way or that person that I would have met, it might have changed 248 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:44,680 things somehow. 249 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:48,040 You know, it's like, I guess it's like time travel. 250 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:54,040 You know, if you go and if you mess up too many things in the, in the, in the time, timeline 251 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:59,080 that you're on, you kind of can change the future also. 252 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,520 And would it really be good for us to know all of the future? 253 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:03,520 No. 254 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,400 It was not necessary. 255 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:07,200 I mean, well, yes and no. 256 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:13,120 I mean, in my case, with my mother, yes, it was necessary with what she had to say, but 257 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:14,880 what I had to say, no. 258 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:15,880 Okay. 259 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:16,880 Let's get into that. 260 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,560 So she told you two things. 261 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:23,880 Make the right choice about having a confrontation with this bouncer. 262 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:24,880 Yes. 263 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:29,560 And she told you about your girlfriend having three children. 264 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:30,560 Right. 265 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:31,560 Right. 266 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:32,560 That I didn't know about. 267 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:34,280 That you did not know about. 268 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,320 How long had you been dating her? 269 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,800 About the year and a half, almost two years. 270 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:43,040 And maybe she has kept a huge secret this whole time. 271 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:47,560 Oh, most, most definitely, but I'm going to tell it in the story. 272 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,120 Let's talk about the bouncer first. 273 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:50,120 Go for it. 274 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:51,120 Okay. 275 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:52,840 And like I said, I have to proof. 276 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:58,920 Now my band at the time of, after that incident, my band, we hadn't worked in about two, three 277 00:15:58,920 --> 00:15:59,920 weeks. 278 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:02,480 It was like a dry spell, really bad. 279 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:06,600 And the next day after the incident with my mother, I got a phone call from the band. 280 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,120 Hey, we got a job. 281 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:13,920 Now I didn't tell my band what had happened with my dead mother because I didn't want 282 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:18,040 them to think, oh, you know, he's a great singer, a great saxophone player, but he lost 283 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:19,640 it since his mother died. 284 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:23,800 You know, so I didn't mention anything to them. 285 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:24,960 I said, Oh, great. 286 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:25,960 We got a job. 287 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:27,480 So I said, Oh, wow. 288 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:28,480 Things look beginning. 289 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:29,880 I hung up the phone and I said, Oh, wow. 290 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:33,800 Things are beginning to look like what my mom said. 291 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,400 The next day after that, I went to the sound check. 292 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:37,400 We call sound check. 293 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:43,160 The sound check for people who do not know, it's when the band goes and checks the instruments 294 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:49,440 and the PA sound system to make sure there's no problems before the show, about three hours, 295 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,360 four hours before the show actually starts. 296 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,200 So I went to the sound check. 297 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,040 There was a huge bouncer at this club. 298 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,760 I had never done this club before. 299 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:05,520 And so anyway, we went to do the sound check and I saw this huge bouncer there, but nothing 300 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:06,520 happened. 301 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:07,520 He didn't say nothing to me. 302 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,560 I didn't say nothing to him. 303 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:10,840 And we did the sound check. 304 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,240 Everything went normal, smooth. 305 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:18,640 And then I left and then I came back for the show at night. 306 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:24,640 And I came in the club and of course there was the bouncer, that huge bouncer, but he 307 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:25,640 didn't say nothing to me. 308 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:26,640 I didn't say nothing to him. 309 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,920 And so so far, everything was good. 310 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,280 So we did our first set, great show. 311 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:32,360 People liked it. 312 00:17:32,360 --> 00:17:36,320 And we were on our break because we had two shows to do. 313 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,160 And while I was on my break, I was talking to the band. 314 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,680 This was me and this was the band. 315 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,040 So we all were talking on the break. 316 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:54,000 And then this bouncer walked by me and grabbed my butt, just grabbed it like that. 317 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:59,840 And I was talking and went, hey, and then he walked away and went in the corner. 318 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:02,880 I said to the guys, hey guys, did you see that guy that just walked? 319 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:04,080 He just grabbed my butt, man. 320 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,520 I gotta tell this guy something. 321 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,320 And they said no, they didn't see it. 322 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,840 They just saw him pass because I was in front. 323 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,400 So they only saw him pass. 324 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:20,680 They couldn't see the grab because I was standing between me and the guy. 325 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:24,400 So I went over this guy and I was really angry. 326 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,800 And then I said, hey, wait a minute, don't lose it, man. 327 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:28,800 Don't lose it. 328 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:29,800 Remember what your mother said. 329 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:30,800 Remember what your mother said. 330 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:31,800 Don't lose it, man. 331 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:38,600 Now, I want to say this really clear is that I have nothing against homosexual, gay, trans 332 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:42,280 sexual, whatever, a person's sexual preferences. 333 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,240 I have nothing against that. 334 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:49,800 But if you know that I'm not a homosexual and you still come after me, of course, I'm 335 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:51,840 gonna try to defend my manhood. 336 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:53,640 That's just how I am. 337 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,880 But this time I said, don't lose it, man. 338 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:58,000 Don't lose it. 339 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,280 Just tell him you're not like that and not to touch you. 340 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:02,280 And that's what I did. 341 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:05,360 I went over and said, listen, man, I'm not like that. 342 00:19:05,360 --> 00:19:06,560 Please don't touch me no more. 343 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,680 He said, you had too much to drink, man. 344 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:11,280 I didn't touch you. 345 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:12,920 I said, yeah, you did touch me, man. 346 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,640 I'm telling you, I'm not like that. 347 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:16,880 Please don't touch me. 348 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:20,080 And then he said, why did you tell your friends? 349 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,320 I said, I told my friends because that's what you did. 350 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,360 But listen, I'm not like that. 351 00:19:25,360 --> 00:19:26,440 So please don't touch me. 352 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:32,000 And then I walked away because if I had stayed longer, the conversation was going right to 353 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,400 the point where my mother was talking about. 354 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,360 Yeah, it was escalating. 355 00:19:36,360 --> 00:19:37,360 Yes. 356 00:19:37,360 --> 00:19:39,040 So I left. 357 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,920 And when I left, I did my second show. 358 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:42,920 I didn't hang out. 359 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:44,520 I didn't hang in that club after. 360 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,760 Like normally I would hang out, you know, you do the show and now it's finished everybody 361 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:52,560 said, I didn't hang out because I didn't, I didn't like that, this guy and the situation. 362 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:56,640 So I finished my show and I left the club. 363 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,400 He didn't say nothing to me no more after that. 364 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,000 And I went home. 365 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,680 Next day I get a phone call from the band because they stayed. 366 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,200 I didn't stay. 367 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:10,320 And they said, Hey man, did you hear what happened? 368 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:11,720 I said, no, what happened? 369 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:17,720 He said, remember that guy you said, grabbed you and stuff that bouncer. 370 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:18,720 I said, yeah. 371 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:26,080 He said he got into an argument with the club owner and crushed both of his rib cages. 372 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:31,800 And now he's in jail for manslaughter and he's in jail to this day. 373 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:32,800 Okay. 374 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,920 And the other thing I want to say, this guy was huge. 375 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:40,240 I mean, I don't know if you ever saw the Hulk, the green guy. 376 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,040 Yeah, Alfred Rignell. 377 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,480 Yes, he was in that category. 378 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:45,480 Wow. 379 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,360 Huge, huge. 380 00:20:47,360 --> 00:20:52,120 He said that to me and I said, Oh, wow, man, that's messed up, man. 381 00:20:52,120 --> 00:20:58,280 Because that club owner, when I went to that club, I noticed that I knew that club owner. 382 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:02,640 I knew him from another club and he was a good friend and he was cool people, man. 383 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,920 And now he didn't deserve that to die. 384 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:06,920 So I hung up the phone. 385 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,800 I still didn't say nothing to the band about what I knew. 386 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:14,080 I hung up the phone and I said, Oh my God, everything my mother said is coming true. 387 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:15,760 Everything, everything. 388 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:19,840 And I said, well, if that's true, my girlfriend. 389 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,120 I said, Oh no, it can't be. 390 00:21:22,120 --> 00:21:24,040 I knew her for almost two years now. 391 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:25,040 Can't be. 392 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:26,040 She has three kids. 393 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:27,040 No way. 394 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:28,040 I got to call her. 395 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:29,920 So I called her right away. 396 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:31,600 I said, and the phone rang. 397 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,720 She said, Hello, hey, hey, it's me. 398 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:34,840 How you doing? 399 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,000 And I said, tell me something. 400 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:39,000 Just tell me the truth. 401 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,680 Do you have three kids? 402 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,760 And then the phone went silent. 403 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:49,520 And then after a little bit of silence, she said, who told you? 404 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,880 And I said, no way, no way, no way. 405 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:52,880 No way. 406 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:53,880 I said, I got to ask you again. 407 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:54,880 Maybe you don't understand. 408 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,560 I said, do you have three kids? 409 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,240 And she said, yes, I do. 410 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:01,600 But who told you? 411 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:05,000 She wanted to know because she was angry. 412 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:11,200 And I said, well, I'm going to tell you who told me, my dead mother told me. 413 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,240 And I said, me and you are finished. 414 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:17,040 I said, if you're going to deny your kids, I don't know what else you could be hiding. 415 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:21,600 I said, I could accept you with your kids if you had been truthful about it. 416 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,760 But you denied it for almost two years. 417 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,920 I said, we're finished. 418 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:27,880 And then I hung up the phone. 419 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:28,880 And that was it. 420 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:33,120 And then I knew everything my mother said was true. 421 00:22:33,120 --> 00:22:39,560 And at the end of that point, I said, well, I'm going to try to go back to normal life 422 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:47,360 because I still felt that nobody, nobody is going to believe that story. 423 00:22:47,360 --> 00:22:48,360 Sure. 424 00:22:48,360 --> 00:22:52,480 Nobody's going to understand or even believe that story. 425 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,240 I said, let's try to go back to normal life. 426 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:56,240 Okay. 427 00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:03,320 Now I'm getting ready to start the situation going leading to the NDE. 428 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:09,280 Now I tried to get back to normal life and I started to follow this singer. 429 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:14,440 He was in this renewed platters, not the original platters, but a renewed group. 430 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:15,440 Okay. 431 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:19,720 Because the original platters, I'm too young for that. 432 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,040 But a renewed group. 433 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:23,040 This guy was great. 434 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:27,480 We had contracts in Germany, Montreal, Canada, albums in Canada. 435 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,960 We won the best act in Canada. 436 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:38,280 A lot of things and contracts in Germany and everywhere in America. 437 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:39,280 And he was great. 438 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,360 A killer vocal, killer vocals. 439 00:23:42,360 --> 00:23:48,960 And one night as I was doing his shows with him learning, because he was like my mentor, 440 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,760 he introduced me to drugs. 441 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:58,760 And I started to do drugs with him, which I'm not so proud about, I have to say. 442 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,600 But I thought that that was the way, because he was successful. 443 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,200 I said, I said, I want to be successful too. 444 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,200 So I started to do drugs with him. 445 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:10,560 So I did drugs with him. 446 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:17,680 And then all of a sudden, about, I guess a year, he died. 447 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:23,000 After one weekend of show we did together the next day, he passed away. 448 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,800 And when he passed away, that was my wake up call. 449 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,160 I stopped cold talking. 450 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,560 No drugs, no nothing. 451 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,360 And I replaced it. 452 00:24:32,360 --> 00:24:34,880 And I said, I'm going to replace it with marijuana. 453 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:39,320 I said, I smoke a joint every now and then, that's okay. 454 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,280 Once a month or whatever, that's okay. 455 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,040 But no more hard drugs. 456 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,080 So that's what I did. 457 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:53,640 But my new girlfriend, we were in an apartment in Montreal, Canada, and we ran out of marijuana. 458 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,200 I didn't have any marijuana that day. 459 00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:04,200 Now this is not against musicians, but I have to say, most musicians know where to get marijuana, 460 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:08,760 no matter what country or no matter what city they're in. 461 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,760 It's just like that. 462 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,160 So I ran out of marijuana. 463 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,720 So I just called one of my musician friends and said, hey, do you got to do marijuana? 464 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,840 I ran out, I don't have any. 465 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:23,680 And he said, sure, I got to bake it in a cake and I'll bring it over to you. 466 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,840 I said, great, I never had it in the cake before. 467 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,880 So he baked it in a cake. 468 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:37,320 Now I found out later that he put tons and tons and tons of marijuana in that cake. 469 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:38,680 A lot, a super lot. 470 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:39,840 And this is street marijuana. 471 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,520 This is not that, you know, like they have it now. 472 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:44,520 It's all processed. 473 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:48,080 Yeah, regulated, chemical free, all that. 474 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,120 Measured all that kind of stuff. 475 00:25:50,120 --> 00:25:56,640 But when you say a lot, compare it to like one joint, was it like 10? 476 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,280 The amount of 10, was it? 477 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,840 Now I would say more like the amount of 30 or 40. 478 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:02,840 Okay. 479 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,040 Or maybe more. 480 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:05,040 Maybe more. 481 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,040 Yeah. 482 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:07,040 Yeah, yeah, maybe more. 483 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:08,800 He was being very generous. 484 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,800 Well, the thing was, I guess he was. 485 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:18,000 You know, because he thought it was like an honor, you know, hey, you know, the super 486 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:22,240 cool musician, man, I'm going to make sure he can take, you know, a little piece of this 487 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:23,880 cake and he going to get blasted. 488 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:28,440 So he poured the whole kitchen sink into, I mean, a bag, a bag full. 489 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:33,040 So you're talking about maybe 40, 50 joints or more. 490 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:34,040 Okay. 491 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:35,880 In that one chocolate cake. 492 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:36,880 Okay. 493 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:37,880 Yeah. 494 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,640 Now, okay, he brought the cake over to my apartment, left it with me and my girlfriend. 495 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:42,760 And he left. 496 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,080 I never took marijuana in food or in the cake. 497 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:47,880 I always smoked it. 498 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:53,480 So I cut a small piece for her and I got a small piece for me because my friend didn't 499 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,480 tell me how much marijuana he put in it. 500 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,600 So I didn't know at all. 501 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:01,560 I took a small piece for me, small piece for her. 502 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,120 We both ate it. 503 00:27:03,120 --> 00:27:06,120 And I said, 10 minutes went by and I said, do you feel anything? 504 00:27:06,120 --> 00:27:07,120 She said, no. 505 00:27:07,120 --> 00:27:08,120 I said, I don't feel anything either. 506 00:27:08,120 --> 00:27:11,320 I said, maybe we got to eat more. 507 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:12,320 Now hang on. 508 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:17,520 Did you not feel it because the effects are a lot slower when you eat it versus smoking 509 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:18,520 it? 510 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:23,920 What I get is that, yes, the effects are a lot slower when you eat it than smoking it, 511 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:29,640 but it's more potent when you eat it than smoking it because it's going directly into 512 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,120 your bloodstream. 513 00:27:31,120 --> 00:27:36,080 Whether smoking it, you have a, you can, you kind of regulating it as you take in or take 514 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,080 out your lungs are regulating it. 515 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,920 But with food, no, you're going directly into the bloodstream. 516 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,600 But my understanding is it takes longer. 517 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:51,480 So 10 minutes went by and you're like, eh, didn't work. 518 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:52,480 Yeah. 519 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:53,480 Yeah. 520 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:54,480 Because I never had it in a cake. 521 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:55,480 I never ate it. 522 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,080 So I thought, oh, you're going to eat it. 523 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,400 And maybe it's going to be, you know, it's going to be faster even because, you know, 524 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,040 it's going straight into the body. 525 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:04,800 So 10 minutes will buy nothing happened. 526 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,120 So we said, ah, maybe we got to eat more. 527 00:28:08,120 --> 00:28:10,600 I think you've got to eat more because maybe I didn't know. 528 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,520 I thought maybe he didn't put a lot in the cake. 529 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:19,960 So I cut half of the cake and I gave her half the other half and I took the other half. 530 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:20,960 Okay. 531 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,960 Now we ate that cake. 532 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,720 Another 10 minutes went by. 533 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:25,720 Still nothing. 534 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,120 Well, you ate the whole cake? 535 00:28:28,120 --> 00:28:29,120 Not me. 536 00:28:29,120 --> 00:28:30,360 My, me and my girlfriend ate the whole cake. 537 00:28:30,360 --> 00:28:31,360 Yeah. 538 00:28:31,360 --> 00:28:32,840 But you ate half a cake. 539 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:33,840 Yes. 540 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:34,840 Yes. 541 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:35,840 I'm sorry. 542 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:36,840 This isn't funny, but it's kind of funny. 543 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,760 Yeah, because we wanted to get high, you know, we really wanted to get high. 544 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,440 10, another 10 minutes will buy nothing happened. 545 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,120 And then I said, must be a bad batch. 546 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,880 I said, we ate the whole cake, isn't it? 547 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,520 And then we start to feel something. 548 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:56,880 Now when we started to feel something, it's, it felt like we were getting beginning to 549 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:04,120 get high, but then it started to cut off our bodily functions. 550 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:08,200 For example, I was talking with her and then I would forget to breathe. 551 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,560 And I'll go, oh, I said, I forgot to breathe. 552 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:12,560 This is weird. 553 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:13,560 I said, are you feeling that? 554 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,800 She says, yes, I feel the same. 555 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:20,080 And then it started to be difficult for me to move even, to even move. 556 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:25,680 And then she said, I think you better call 911 while we still can. 557 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,440 And I said, yeah, I think you're right. 558 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:33,920 And I was pulling myself to the phone and I finally picked up the phone and I dialed 559 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,760 911 and I said, and then they answered, hello, how can we help you? 560 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,920 And I said, and this is the embarrassing part. 561 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:48,440 I said, well, I think we ate too much marijuana in a cake and I think we're dying. 562 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,000 I said, could you come please help us, please save us. 563 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,920 And she said, okay, we'll be right over. 564 00:29:54,920 --> 00:30:00,520 Now what I didn't realize is that if you call 911 about any narcotic, they also call the 565 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,720 police. 566 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,200 So the police came with them. 567 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:09,400 But when the police arrived at the apartment, there was no evidence because we had to eat 568 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:10,400 the whole cake. 569 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,560 So there was nothing to charge us with. 570 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:17,960 So they left and then the ambulance took us. 571 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,840 And by the way, it was late by this time. 572 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,760 It was like around maybe four in the morning. 573 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,840 And so they took us in separate stretchers. 574 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,640 We're on the third floor. 575 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,840 We're in a stairwell case step going down. 576 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:39,160 So as they carry in us, we have our neighbors on the second and first floor and they have 577 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,320 big windows right in front of the staircase. 578 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,040 So they're looking at us. 579 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,680 I'm in a stretcher going down as they carried me down. 580 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,440 And they're in the window saying, what happened to them? 581 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,840 Lights are flashing like crazy. 582 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,280 It sounds like seeing that of David Bowie, Mick Jarvis overdosing. 583 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,240 They looked like that for me. 584 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:01,640 It was crazy. 585 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:05,160 So they took us out and they rushed us to the hospital. 586 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:10,360 I was glad that they arrived because by the time they arrived, my heart was just trying 587 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:15,200 to beat because I couldn't hardly move at all. 588 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,200 And I said, thank God they're here to hear. 589 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:23,560 And my heart was trying to beat and I was really fighting to live because I know I didn't 590 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:24,560 have long man. 591 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,320 I didn't have long to live. 592 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:30,720 They took us in the ambulance and we rushed to the hospital. 593 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,880 And here's another strange thing that happened. 594 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:40,640 As I'm going past the reception at the hospital, there's my dead mother again. 595 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:47,040 But this time she's looking through papers at the reception looking for me. 596 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:52,040 And she had this shirt on that she had. 597 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,200 She was in a women's club. 598 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:58,360 The club is like 10 women and they go play bingo together. 599 00:31:58,360 --> 00:31:59,360 They go on trips together. 600 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:00,800 It's like a women's club. 601 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:07,440 And she had this shirt that I recognized that she always wears at this women's club. 602 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,040 And I was in a stretcher and I said, that's weird. 603 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,080 They're small. 604 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,480 And they wrote me to my room. 605 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:19,800 And what I didn't realize at that time, what I realized later was that I was so close to 606 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:20,800 death. 607 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:25,800 That's why I was able to see her clearly like I see you right now. 608 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,280 They wrote me to my room and they wheeled my girlfriend to another room. 609 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,640 She was having other complications. 610 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,720 I don't know what, but she was having other complications. 611 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,800 But anyway, they wrote me to my room and they gave me this black drink to drink. 612 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:43,120 I thought it was tar, but I found out later it was charcoal. 613 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,120 Yeah. 614 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:45,360 Helps take toxins out. 615 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:46,360 Yeah. 616 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:52,760 I'm laying on my bed in my room, I'm in a hospital room by myself. 617 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:53,760 I'm laying on my bed. 618 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:59,720 They leave my room and they are going to my girlfriend's room to work on her because I 619 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:04,760 don't know if they had to pump her heart again or something was terribly wrong. 620 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,800 I'm in the hospital room thinking, wow, okay, I think I'm going to live, man. 621 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:09,800 I'm going to live. 622 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,280 So I drink this drink. 623 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:12,280 Tastes horrible. 624 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:13,280 Tastes horrible. 625 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,920 But I drink it down and I'm relaxed. 626 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:24,640 I relax and sit laying on my bed and all of a sudden as I'm relaxing, I start to hear 627 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,240 my heart. 628 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:36,080 My heart starts to beat in my ear and it starts to be boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. 629 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:41,040 And when it went like that, the last beat, I jumped out of my chair. 630 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,640 I mean, I jumped out of my bed. 631 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,120 It's like I jumped out of my chair. 632 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,480 I just jumped out of my body. 633 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:51,320 And when I jumped out of my body, I said, I'm out. 634 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,000 I'm out. 635 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,440 And it was so easy. 636 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,280 I could see my body in the hospital bed. 637 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:05,880 I was standing next to my body and I was looking at my hand just like I'm showing you now. 638 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,600 It's funny, it just disappeared a little bit. 639 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:14,800 It was looking at my hand, it had like, I don't know how to explain it like this. 640 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,760 I don't know if you used to watch TV and they used to have the emergency broadcasting system 641 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:19,760 come on. 642 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:20,760 Sure. 643 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:25,520 Late at night and there would be the static on the TV, shh, right? 644 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:29,640 And then the static, if you look hard enough, there was like colors. 645 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,760 If you really look at the static, it wasn't just gray. 646 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:39,840 My hand was like that, kind of like a grayish, a gray with a light blue tint around it all 647 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:40,840 around my hand. 648 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,960 I was looking at it like that. 649 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,960 And then I heard a drop of water. 650 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:52,400 It was a sink in my hospital room and it was just a drop of water just going boop, boop. 651 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:59,720 And for some odd reason, to a soul, a drop of water was amazing. 652 00:34:59,720 --> 00:35:03,920 I said, when I heard the drop of water, I said, a drop of water. 653 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,520 Wow. 654 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:10,120 And the minute I thought about the drop of water, my vision went right up close to it 655 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:16,120 and then right back to where I was standing without me moving. 656 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,120 Okay. 657 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:23,560 Then I said, I got, I want to freeze this water so I can see it more because it was 658 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,680 drifting. 659 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,560 And it was like I was remembering. 660 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:32,560 Like if I give you a bike to ride, if you hadn't had a bike in 20 years and I give you 661 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:36,400 a bike to ride, you're still going to know how to ride it, right? 662 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:37,400 Yes. 663 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:42,120 Well, this how it was when I wanted to stop this water. 664 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:43,840 I said, I want to freeze this water. 665 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:44,920 And I said, oh yeah. 666 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:49,720 And I just pushed my hand across the air just like I'm doing right now. 667 00:35:49,720 --> 00:35:51,600 And the water froze. 668 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,600 I stopped time. 669 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,600 To a soul, that was not an amazing thing. 670 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,000 I was like, okay. 671 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:03,640 And then I said, I'd like to see that water from every angle. 672 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,400 And then I opened my hand like this. 673 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:11,120 And when I opened my hand, five of me appeared at the sink. 674 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:17,080 One on the right, one on the left, one under the sink, looking at the water up, one standing, 675 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:22,200 watching those three, another one, and then me watching all of them. 676 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:28,960 And then when I would close my hand, they all suck back to me. 677 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,160 And I said, wow, that's cool. 678 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,080 And I opened my hand again. 679 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,560 They all went back. 680 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:35,560 And I kept doing it. 681 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:40,000 So you're having fun with this whole thing. 682 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,000 I like it. 683 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,000 Yes. 684 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,000 Yes. 685 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,000 Yes. 686 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:50,200 And then I said, what if I add a little shake and then I opened my hand and I did a little 687 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,480 shake like that, and they all appeared with a little shake. 688 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,640 And I burst out laughing. 689 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,840 I burst out laughing. 690 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:04,320 And my laugh sounded on the other side like you're laughing in a Grand Canyon. 691 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:09,240 And after the laugh, I felt somebody was watching me. 692 00:37:09,240 --> 00:37:10,520 Then I heard a voice. 693 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:16,600 And the voice was like how a parent would tell a child at a playground, don't run around 694 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:17,600 a corner too fast. 695 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:18,600 You might fall. 696 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:23,200 Well, this voice said to me in a loving, gentle way. 697 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:29,160 It said, if you don't go back now, you may have to stay. 698 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,440 And I said to the voice, oh, yeah, that's right. 699 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:36,080 My heart can't say stop that long. 700 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:42,240 And I never questioned who the voice was because I felt it was God talking to me. 701 00:37:42,240 --> 00:37:45,160 Oh, yeah, there's another thing. 702 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:51,840 While I was out of my body, the best way to describe this was like, if you have Alka-seltzer 703 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,040 and you put an Alka-seltzer in water, it dissolves, right? 704 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:56,040 Sure. 705 00:37:56,040 --> 00:38:01,440 While I was out of my body, information was doing the opposite, expanding. 706 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:05,160 More and more and more and more and more information, more and more information, as long as I was 707 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,400 out more and more and more information. 708 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:15,120 It was like I was getting all this information like a sponge, okay, about things that I didn't 709 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:21,000 like, was the opposite of what I believed, okay, a lot of things. 710 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:25,480 Anyway, I'll tell you about that more, but that was happening all the time that I was 711 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,360 out of my body. 712 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:31,640 Then I pointed myself after the voice told me, if I don't go back now, I might have to 713 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,080 stay. 714 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:34,080 That was a choice. 715 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:35,080 It was not a command. 716 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:36,200 It was not an order. 717 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,280 It was just a choice. 718 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:43,960 And I chose to go back because I said, you know, I don't want to die right now. 719 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:45,360 I don't want to stay right now. 720 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,960 I have things I wanted to do in life. 721 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,600 I pointed myself at the body. 722 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,480 And here's another thing. 723 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:57,600 I looked at the body, but I never wanted to look at the face because I was afraid that 724 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:02,200 my face was going to have some look of death or something like that. 725 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,600 So I didn't want to look at my face, but I saw I was out of my body. 726 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,120 My body was there and I was standing here. 727 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:13,200 I pointed myself at my body and I told my soul, okay, now we go into the body. 728 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:18,960 And I jumped into the body and my heart did a double beat like that and it started to 729 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:20,720 beat again. 730 00:39:20,720 --> 00:39:23,800 Then that was the end of my NDE. 731 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:24,800 Okay. 732 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,560 Before we go on, I want to interject some questions here. 733 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:28,560 Okay. 734 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:29,560 Okay. 735 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,760 Sounds like it was like you intuitively knew how to get back in. 736 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,400 I think I find that very interesting. 737 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,200 Is that how you felt? 738 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:40,880 Well, the thing was, I was beginning to remember more and more. 739 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:45,880 The longer I stayed, the more and more I started to remember I had powers. 740 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:52,280 At first it was funny, but I still was going to try because I said, I'm going to try. 741 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,040 That was my intent while I was in my soul. 742 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,960 I'm going to try to get back in my body now. 743 00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:03,800 But I felt a lot of confidence because I had God that had just said, if you don't go back 744 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,200 now, you might have to stay. 745 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:10,520 So that gave me the confidence to say, and God is going to help me to arrange. 746 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:15,520 If I can't get it right, God's going to help me to get back in because God is watching 747 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:16,520 me. 748 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:17,520 God is watching me now. 749 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:18,520 That's what I felt before. 750 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:24,280 I didn't feel like anybody was watching me, but then after I laughed, I felt then God 751 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:25,480 was watching me. 752 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,000 Oh, that's cool. 753 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,320 You mentioned that you felt this expansion of information. 754 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:32,560 Yes. 755 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,360 Can you tell us any of the things? 756 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,360 Do you remember any of that information? 757 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,720 This is the good thing. 758 00:40:39,720 --> 00:40:42,400 This time I was able to remember everything. 759 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,040 Give us a couple of things you remember. 760 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,760 These are things that were opposite of what I believed. 761 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:54,440 For example, on the other side, there's no right or wrong, only perception. 762 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,880 God never judges you. 763 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:58,200 Angels never judge you. 764 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,040 Gods never judge you. 765 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,520 There's no judgment on the other side. 766 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,040 There's no judgment in unconditional love. 767 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:07,320 There is no judgment. 768 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,480 Why do people experience hell even? 769 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,120 I got that. 770 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:15,480 Because while you're on this plane, because, oh yeah, I have to tell you that part first. 771 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,800 First, we are part of God who we are. 772 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:29,120 We are part of God and we are gods with a big G. Part of God, but we also are gods. 773 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:36,520 The other thing is why people experience hell when they die is because when you're a god, 774 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:41,720 whatever you fear, you can create. 775 00:41:41,720 --> 00:41:42,720 You create. 776 00:41:42,720 --> 00:41:44,960 You're creating on the other side. 777 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:52,000 Even now, if you have any fears here, you're creating things on the other side. 778 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,880 What happens is when the people die because they're so afraid and they're so powerful 779 00:41:55,880 --> 00:42:00,800 gods because whatever they believe, so be it because they are a god. 780 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,320 Don't forget. 781 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,880 So they will experience hell. 782 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:06,880 What is hell? 783 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,040 Hell is what they created, not God. 784 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:14,960 Because if God was to create hell, guess what? 785 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,120 Nobody would get up. 786 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:22,400 And the second thing is hundreds of people are dying and going to hell and getting out. 787 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,680 And two things either happen with that. 788 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,880 Either they realize, hey, it's me that's creating this place. 789 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:29,880 It's me. 790 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:31,960 It's not real. 791 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:32,960 And they leave. 792 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,880 They say, oh, God, please help me. 793 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:40,520 And then God comes and says, OK, I'm going to help you get out of your own creation. 794 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,520 And he takes you out. 795 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:43,520 And that's it. 796 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,360 And they think, oh, God gave me a second chance. 797 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:55,040 No, you created that because God is only, only, only, only, only, only love. 798 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:56,040 That's it. 799 00:42:56,040 --> 00:43:01,040 I also got there's also the same thing as about heaven. 800 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,680 People experience heaven. 801 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:04,920 They believe it's heaven. 802 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:06,400 They believe heaven exists. 803 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:10,080 So they go to this heavenly realm and hardly nobody's there. 804 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:14,400 Maybe Mary, maybe Jesus is there. 805 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,880 And they realize, hey, wait, there's nobody here. 806 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,160 There's nothing happening here. 807 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,560 Yeah, because you created that. 808 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:26,760 Because on the other side, basically everything is heaven because it's all from God. 809 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,120 Everything is everything. 810 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,240 It's not a designated place. 811 00:43:31,240 --> 00:43:34,360 OK, now there's different dimensions. 812 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:35,360 Yes. 813 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,640 There's many realms. 814 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:38,880 Yes. 815 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:43,760 But there's not a designated place to say, this is heaven and now you made it. 816 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:44,760 No. 817 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,760 Or you're in hell and that's over here on the left side. 818 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:48,760 Yeah, exactly. 819 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:49,760 Exactly. 820 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,360 Yeah, that makes a ton of sense. 821 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:52,880 So that's the other thing. 822 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,440 Yeah, because in a Christian living, a Christian religion, you're never supposed to get out 823 00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:57,440 of hell. 824 00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:58,440 But never. 825 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:04,440 OK, so why are hundreds and hundreds are getting out? 826 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:05,440 We create that. 827 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:09,320 So the other thing is why we came here. 828 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:13,320 We came here to experience what we are not. 829 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,960 OK, we came here to basically experience. 830 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:23,440 It is not a school like everybody trying to say a lot of spiritual teachers or my soul 831 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:24,840 needs to grow. 832 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,840 Now your soul is perfect on the other side. 833 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,240 But think of it like this. 834 00:44:31,240 --> 00:44:33,800 On the other side, you have all this knowledge. 835 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:39,360 It's like you read the book on how to drive a car, but you've never driven the car. 836 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:45,640 And you come in this third density, third 3D density, to actually experience how to drive 837 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:46,640 the car. 838 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,320 Because on the other side, it's too high density. 839 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:53,680 OK, so you come here to experience how to drive the car. 840 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,080 And that's the whole thing. 841 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:56,480 We come here to experience. 842 00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:00,000 Now, in that experience, do you get something out of it? 843 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,320 Or you get something? 844 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,160 Yeah, probably sure. 845 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:09,240 You have something extra added to your soul, but it's not making your soul better than 846 00:45:09,240 --> 00:45:10,400 another soul. 847 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,920 Or it's not because my soul needs it. 848 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,400 And otherwise, I don't grow. 849 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:16,400 No. 850 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,560 Having this experience is an experience that you have. 851 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:24,480 And other souls can access it once you're on the other side, but it's quite not the 852 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:28,440 same as experiencing it. 853 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:32,920 Because when you experience it on the other side, you cannot change it. 854 00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:36,360 Let's say you want to, let's say you're a spirit on the other side, and you want to 855 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:40,200 see how it was like to be Elvis. 856 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:45,960 So you go to the Akashic Records, and you go to his life, and you go and trade energies. 857 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:51,360 And you actually will feel how it feels to be Elvis, but you cannot change anything that 858 00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,240 Elvis did already. 859 00:45:53,240 --> 00:45:54,240 You see? 860 00:45:54,240 --> 00:45:56,560 So you can't change that life. 861 00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:01,280 You're like a robot in that life to feel how he does it. 862 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:06,840 But the person who actually did it, they have a little something extra about it. 863 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,360 And that's the whole point. 864 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,240 And that's when we come to experience what we're not. 865 00:46:12,240 --> 00:46:16,680 Because for example, you're white, and you're in a white room, and everything you see is 866 00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:17,680 white. 867 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:18,680 Guess what? 868 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:24,920 You don't know you're white, unless you see a black room or a green room or a purple room. 869 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:26,800 And you say, oh, I'm the white room. 870 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,480 It's the same on the other side. 871 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:35,880 If you're experiencing only love, security, you don't even know what fear feels like. 872 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:44,120 But then when you come here and you experience the illusion of fear, no love, even death, 873 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,840 which is illusion, you can never die. 874 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:52,920 Then when you go back, you say, oh, wow, look what I, this is amazing what we have. 875 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,200 Really interesting stuff. 876 00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:55,360 You see my point? 877 00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:56,760 And that's, and that's the whole point. 878 00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,160 That's why I say we come here to experience what we're not. 879 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:04,800 Do you think there are some things that we need to take on this physical form in this 880 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:12,680 place to experience that we couldn't in the other realm and just as spirit beings? 881 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:17,200 Most definitely, most definitely because some things are too low density. 882 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:18,200 Yeah. 883 00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:19,200 Okay. 884 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:20,720 3D is a low density. 885 00:47:20,720 --> 00:47:21,720 Okay. 886 00:47:21,720 --> 00:47:24,440 On the other side, it's a much higher density. 887 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:25,440 Yeah. 888 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,360 But we can learn a lot by coming down here. 889 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,080 I shouldn't say coming down. 890 00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:36,560 But as you put it, this density, this realm, we, there are a lot of things to learn. 891 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:42,200 Well, not learn, but experience, my friend, experience, because what you're going to understand 892 00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:50,640 is that your soul on the other side does not need to learn or it does not need it. 893 00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,520 It's just an experience. 894 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:56,600 And that's what people got to get because that's a human way of thinking, oh, I have 895 00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:02,640 to go to school, I have to learn to something, it's not, it's just an experience because 896 00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:09,560 when you go back, it's not that, oh, I really needed to know how it felt to be lot and have 897 00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:10,560 no love. 898 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,120 I really needed to know. 899 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:13,120 Not really. 900 00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,840 But through the experience, we gain something. 901 00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:24,280 Oh, you do gain something from the experience, but, but it's not, how can I say it's not 902 00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:28,400 your soul is better or more wiser? 903 00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:34,160 It's just something added because the thing is, like I said, if I want to experience, 904 00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:39,200 like I said, evil, conneval who jumping motorcycles, I want to experience how, how it felt to be 905 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:40,840 in the air on a motorcycle. 906 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:46,120 I could go with you, ask it, a classic records and, and experience it. 907 00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:47,600 But I couldn't experience it. 908 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:53,320 I only could experience it from his eyes, from his viewpoint, from his feelings or emotions. 909 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:57,040 But you're still different after you had that experience. 910 00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:00,200 Something changed within you because you experienced it. 911 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,720 You mean my near death experience? 912 00:49:02,720 --> 00:49:12,000 No, if you, if you went back and experienced Elvis's life to use your example or evil, 913 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:13,000 conneval. 914 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:17,920 Yeah, you'll have a, you'll have an extra, you'll have an extra experience under your 915 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:24,160 belt, but it doesn't, it's not going to make you more worthy or more powerful than another 916 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:25,160 soul. 917 00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:29,440 No, no, not in comparison, but we've done it for a reason. 918 00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,600 Yeah, we've done it to experience. 919 00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,640 We got something from it or what was the point? 920 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,560 Well, the, well, we got us the experience. 921 00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:38,560 Yeah. 922 00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:39,560 Okay. 923 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:43,560 When you were in this hospital room and you stepped out of your body. 924 00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:44,560 Yeah. 925 00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:45,920 What, what was the word you use? 926 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:46,920 Did you jump out? 927 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:48,280 Did you just step out? 928 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:49,840 No, I just said, I'm out. 929 00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:50,840 I popped out. 930 00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,200 I like, like I would jump out of this chair. 931 00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:54,920 That's how what happened. 932 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:59,160 The minute my heart did the last beat, I popped out. 933 00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:04,160 Did you also feel like you went somewhere else or like you were in that hospital room 934 00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:05,560 the whole time? 935 00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:07,840 Some people feel like they travel someplace. 936 00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:08,840 Some people don't. 937 00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,480 I just felt that the time was different. 938 00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:12,480 Okay. 939 00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:13,480 That makes sense. 940 00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:14,480 Okay. 941 00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:19,680 I was dead for about 20 minutes, but on the other side, it felt like hours. 942 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,640 Like I was playing around. 943 00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,080 I was laughing. 944 00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:31,720 It just felt like at least more than almost two hours, it felt like in spiritual time. 945 00:50:31,720 --> 00:50:37,920 But in human time, it was probably about 20, 20 minutes, 25 minutes at best. 946 00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:39,600 Let's talk about the choice. 947 00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:40,720 Okay. 948 00:50:40,720 --> 00:50:44,840 Tell me again about your choice to come back or to stay there. 949 00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:50,520 God said, I felt first that somebody was watching me and then I heard a voice and it was from 950 00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:51,520 behind me. 951 00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:55,160 I felt somebody was watching me and I didn't feel that before. 952 00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:59,280 Before I felt alone and I was just having a ball like a kid. 953 00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:04,400 Like I said, it turned it a little bit into Bugs Bunny because I had these powers and 954 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:05,840 I said, I can do that. 955 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:06,840 Wow. 956 00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:07,840 Let's try this. 957 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:08,960 Hey, what if I put a little shake? 958 00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:14,440 Like, you know, when I left my body, it was like I left an old shirt on the chair. 959 00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:19,440 I had no concern about that body because I knew that this was like, this is the real 960 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:20,520 me. 961 00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:24,360 But I was at the same time kind of discovering as I was going along. 962 00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,440 And then what were you told when you decided to come back? 963 00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:28,440 Yeah. 964 00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:33,680 It said, if you don't go back now, you might have to stay. 965 00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:34,680 And it was not an order. 966 00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:36,840 It was not a command. 967 00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:43,800 It was very gentle, very loving, but it was letting me know that at this point in time, 968 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:48,480 even though there's no time, but at this point, if you don't go back now, you might 969 00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:52,640 have to stay because your heart can't stay stopped for that long. 970 00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:53,640 Yeah. 971 00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,640 If it's been 20 minutes, that's a long time. 972 00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:57,640 Yeah. 973 00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:58,640 Yeah. 974 00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:00,080 Brain damage is going to start happening. 975 00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:01,080 Yeah. 976 00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:02,520 It was at that point. 977 00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,640 So I knew, I said, oh yeah, that's right. 978 00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,360 Because I was having so much fun on the other side. 979 00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:08,360 I had forgotten about the body. 980 00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:09,640 I said, oh yeah, that's right. 981 00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,120 I'm answering God. 982 00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,840 Oh yeah, that's right. 983 00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:17,400 And then I pointed myself at the body and I jumped back in. 984 00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:18,400 All right. 985 00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,920 Let's jump back into where you were before I got you sidetracked. 986 00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,280 You jumped back in your body. 987 00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,120 Let's talk about what happened after that. 988 00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:28,120 Okay. 989 00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:29,640 A lot of things happen after that. 990 00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:31,680 I jumped back in my body. 991 00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:33,400 You're still really sick, right? 992 00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:39,360 I jumped back in my body and my heart starts to beat and I sleep there for a while. 993 00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:43,080 And then they check me again and I'm able to leave. 994 00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:44,320 Okay. 995 00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:50,440 And the other thing is when I came back, I got these gifts, spiritual gifts that I had 996 00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,280 no idea. 997 00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:56,760 I learned that I have them by accident. 998 00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:00,360 And that's where we're going to pick it up in part two of our interview with Dennis 999 00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,000 Bullock. 1000 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:07,000 Taking spiritual gifts and specifically the ones he came back with and how we put them 1001 00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:08,360 to use in his life. 1002 00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,040 I hope you'll join us then. 1003 00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:14,240 But for now, if you haven't already hit that follow or subscribe button, now's the time 1004 00:53:14,240 --> 00:53:15,240 to do it. 1005 00:53:15,240 --> 00:53:19,560 And if you want to help us continue to put out this kind of quality content, head on 1006 00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:21,680 over to roundtriptest.com. 1007 00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:25,480 Look for that itty-bitty donate button in the upper right hand corner. 1008 00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:44,720 Until then, I wish you everything good that you're looking for in this life and the next.