1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:10,440 Welcome to Round Trip Death everybody and to this special bonus edition where we're going to pick up where we left off on our interview with Yvonne Sneedon. 2 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,920 And you know what? Let's jump right in. 3 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:21,400 From the time that they pronounced me deaf was a good 45 minutes. 4 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:34,200 They cut my clothes and then they paddled my heart, my heart had stopped and I could see people screaming and crying but I didn't realise that was actually my physical body because I was somewhere else. 5 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:42,400 The only thing that I could feel if you could imagine absolute love and peace there wasn't anything else to be felt. 6 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,480 I was greeted by people I'd known in the past. 7 00:00:45,480 --> 00:00:47,200 I'm back home again. 8 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:51,800 Incredibly safe and felt at home. 9 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:55,480 Okay, I am ready. 10 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:57,760 I kind of set you up there. 11 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:11,520 Just as a little bit of review in the earlier episode we were talking about Yvonne's second near-death experience which was this amazing, amazing experience. 12 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:20,200 And for our listeners if you haven't heard it yet I recommend you go listen to that first and then come back to this even though it sounds backwards. 13 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:24,440 But we're now going to talk about your first near-death experience. 14 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:36,280 And these bonus episodes are where we talk about things that are a little bit sometimes out of the ordinary not the classic NDE's but can be other types of related experiences. 15 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,200 And this is going to be a whole ton of fun. 16 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:45,080 So Yvonne, how far before your second NDE was your first one? 17 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:50,920 You mentioned it was kind of brought on by similar medical situations. 18 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:52,560 Yes, yes, Eric. 19 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:57,200 And thank you again for having me for the second NDE. 20 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:03,480 So the first one happened about two to three weeks prior to my second one. 21 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:11,000 My first one was because of arrhythmia and I had taken that medication and as I said, accidental overdose. 22 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,280 So the first time was a similar situation. 23 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:20,160 I was afraid of having the severe arrhythmia episode that you feel like you're going to die. 24 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,280 And so I wanted a peaceful night. 25 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:31,280 So I took the medication which later on anesthesiast Eduke told me that this medication created a hard stop. 26 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:38,680 For the second one, for the first one, she said it was probably sleep apnea and that I had probably stopped breathing for four minutes. 27 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:43,960 And then I was gone and that's what was explanation when I went to the doctor. 28 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:45,680 Wow, that's a long time. 29 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,880 So this isn't a medication that you take preemptively. 30 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:53,920 This is something you only take when you're having a bad episode. 31 00:02:53,920 --> 00:02:55,360 Well, you know that now. 32 00:02:55,360 --> 00:03:02,240 Yeah, I thought that it was going to just regulate, but actually it was just for when I had an episode. 33 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:10,400 So anyway, so that night again, I take them for the first time actually, I take the medication. 34 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:19,680 And then I remember putting my head on the bed and then suddenly I see my body lifeless on the bed. 35 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:34,640 And at the end of the feet of my bed, at the end of the bed, I see two beings of light, two male energy, male beings of light. 36 00:03:34,640 --> 00:03:40,200 They both were about 12, 13 feet high. 37 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:44,480 They had also they had long white robes. 38 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:50,480 They had blondish, whiteish hair, short, a little bit wavy. 39 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:55,120 And they looked identical as if they were cloned from each other. 40 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,560 They looked totally identical. 41 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:06,120 And they were both there with a long rope, tall, kind of thin, thin, tall and very handsome, very beautiful beings. 42 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:14,560 And they emanated a lot of majesty and power and strength. 43 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,240 And they were just looking at me there. 44 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:23,400 And then when I noticed them, telepathically, they told me, 45 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,680 Yvonne, it's time to go. 46 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,480 Leaving, Earth is over. 47 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:28,960 It's time to go. 48 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,000 Did you wonder go where? 49 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:35,400 No, because, you know, once you're outside of your body, 50 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:36,920 everything seems normal. 51 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,640 You have you are questioning anything. 52 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:43,440 It's like everything that's happening is completely normal. 53 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,720 And so for me, I was like, OK, I was like, yeah, OK. 54 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,320 And these two beings, you didn't recognize them? 55 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,880 You didn't get any feeling as to who they were? 56 00:04:51,880 --> 00:05:03,160 They were more of to me looking very divine, like like celestial soldier or something or escort. 57 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,760 You know, there were guides, escort beings. 58 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:08,720 They felt very powerful. 59 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:14,360 I didn't feel like, oh, that overwhelming compassion or empathy. 60 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:20,160 But it was more like power, divinely powerful, like soldiers, like, you know, 61 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,880 more divine, the loving ones. 62 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:27,160 And so it didn't make sense that I wanted to go with them 63 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,320 because my daughter was sleeping in the next room. 64 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:34,760 But I have to say, and I have hurt my daughter when I was sharing that experience. 65 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:41,520 So I have to clarify that when we are outside of our body and moving to the next life, 66 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:48,920 it's almost like everything that happened to you on earth, you have an amnesia, your amnesia. 67 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:52,760 Suddenly, you don't remember at all what just happened. 68 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:56,720 You are experiencing the moment, the present moment. 69 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:02,360 And all your attention is on the present moment, 100%. 70 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,040 So you're not even thinking of what just you left. 71 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:12,640 You don't, it's like a curtain closed, you know, because I have to say that I knew I was going to die. 72 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:20,280 And I felt my energy had left and I felt it was just like, you know, when you were diving for 10 years 73 00:06:20,280 --> 00:06:22,960 and then suddenly you see, you think, oh, I don't want to dive anymore. 74 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:24,680 I want to ski. 75 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:29,080 And then you just left that that's how I felt. I'm not interested in earth anymore. 76 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:30,840 That's I'm done. I'm moving on. 77 00:06:30,840 --> 00:06:33,240 I didn't even have suicidal thoughts. 78 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:37,760 But now that they were telling me it's time to go, I didn't remember anything. 79 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:41,440 It was just like in the present moment, them telling me that. 80 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:45,640 And for me, feeling that that's the thing I have to do. 81 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,520 That's really what I need to do. 82 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,000 It makes total sense. 83 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,520 That's how my mind was. 84 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:56,440 And they said telepathically, but it's time to go. 85 00:06:56,440 --> 00:07:05,000 And the interesting thing, Eric, is that behind them, as they were telling me that telepathically, 86 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:10,200 I could see behind them there was a spaceship. 87 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,600 Wait a minute. 88 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,760 OK. 89 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:22,280 I've talked to people that have gone through through portals and seen the light and, you know, 90 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,200 all that kind of stuff. 91 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,560 You're talking about a spaceship. 92 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,440 I can't wait to hear this. 93 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:30,600 Keep going. 94 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:35,480 Yeah, it took me actually to tell you the truth, frankly, in 2008. 95 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:43,240 So when I said when I shared my first my NDE the first time, it was 2012 to IONs. 96 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:48,400 But it took me until last year to there to share this NDE. 97 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:50,640 And the because of that element. 98 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:54,320 I didn't there, I thought people will think I'm totally insane. 99 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:55,320 Yeah. 100 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,240 They will never believe me. 101 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:02,400 So but last year was interviewed and it slipped out of my mouth and I said, OK, too late. 102 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:03,400 I'm uncovered. 103 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,560 Yeah, it's out of the bag. 104 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:09,640 OK, this is this is fascinating. 105 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:13,960 And just to remind people, this is a safe non-judgmental space here. 106 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:15,320 OK. 107 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:19,160 Other people can make whatever other conclusions they want to. 108 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,240 I really and all serious want to hear about this. 109 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:23,240 OK. 110 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:28,480 And it may be that we can also interpret this in kind of different ways too. 111 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,640 So you see this spaceship. 112 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:31,640 Keep going. 113 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,960 Sorry for interrupting, by the way. 114 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:36,480 Couldn't help myself. 115 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:37,840 I love that you're interacting. 116 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,240 Actually, no, please do. 117 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:45,960 And for the listener, I work in IET, which is a very grounded industry. 118 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,040 It's nothing woo-woo. 119 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:49,440 I sound minded. 120 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:53,000 I'm leading engineers and operation managers. 121 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,760 So I have a very, a very grounded job. 122 00:08:56,760 --> 00:09:01,160 So it's not that I'm, you know, that one person that is imagining things. 123 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:06,440 Well, and if I thought that you had any kind of mental health issues or something like 124 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,600 that, this interview wouldn't be out there. 125 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,120 Oh, I appreciate that. 126 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:12,120 Thank you. 127 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:16,080 That's my nice way of saying, I don't think you're crazy. 128 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:17,400 Thank you. 129 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,080 Thank you so much. 130 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:23,960 So yeah, so there they are telling me it's time to go. 131 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:27,040 And behind them is that spaceship. 132 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:38,400 So the spaceship was, imagine a, it was, imagine an oval plate, an oval plate. 133 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,480 It was pearly white, very beautiful. 134 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,520 And it was open. 135 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,200 Imagine, you know, a seashell open. 136 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:47,920 So the top was open. 137 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:52,080 Oh, it wasn't like a flying saucer that we think of. 138 00:09:52,080 --> 00:10:01,160 It was like a flying saucer, but not, it was, you know, as if I'm French and I have a heart, 139 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:09,880 I'm explaining that right now, but imagine that you put two plates, one on top of it. 140 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:11,640 Yeah, one upside down. 141 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:12,640 Yeah. 142 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:13,640 And then, okay. 143 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:15,160 So it was like a big flying saucer. 144 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,760 Like a big flying saucer, absolutely. 145 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:21,080 And it was white, pearly white. 146 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:26,200 And it was, the top was open, facing me. 147 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,480 And so they said, Yvonne, it's time to go. 148 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,840 And I said, yes, like, yeah, that's what I'm doing. 149 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:33,840 I'm used to what's happening. 150 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,080 It's totally making sense. 151 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:42,560 And so I, they, I went in between both of them. 152 00:10:42,560 --> 00:10:45,920 And we proceeded towards that spaceship. 153 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:51,240 And as we arrived in front of the spaceship, we entered the spaceship. 154 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:58,840 And there were three seats, one of the being or celestial escort or celestial, you know, 155 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,080 soldier, I don't know how to call him. 156 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:02,520 They never introduced themselves. 157 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:06,080 So set onto my left, I sat in the middle. 158 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:07,360 There were three seats. 159 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:08,560 I sat in the middle. 160 00:11:08,560 --> 00:11:11,480 And then to my right was the other one. 161 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,800 So we sat there. 162 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:17,920 The top of the saucer closed. 163 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:23,840 The being, the celestial being to my right, angelic being or I don't know, they never 164 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:31,960 told me who they were to the right with his left hand pulled a handle. 165 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:39,360 And when he did that, we crossed, we left, we left, we crossed the entire universe in 166 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,480 one second. 167 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,800 When I say one second, it's literally one second. 168 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:49,680 And I can, we, and I can still feel what it feels to be in space. 169 00:11:49,680 --> 00:11:54,400 It's a very different feeling than being in this atmosphere. 170 00:11:54,400 --> 00:12:00,800 We really, we really, it was like one second, we just crossed the entire, just like in the 171 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,680 science fiction movie, when you see that, you know, they go into. 172 00:12:03,680 --> 00:12:07,440 I like the hyperdrive and all the stars go shooting by. 173 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:08,440 Yeah. 174 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:14,520 And you know, I wasn't expecting anything like that because I was raised in my faith. 175 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:21,240 Anything that was spaceship or extra everything like that was from the devil. 176 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:27,760 So to me, that experience, I cannot have imagined that in my mind or anything because it was 177 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:32,120 not in my, in my, in my heart drive. 178 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,080 In my brain, hard drive. 179 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:41,800 And so, so we arrived, we, we crossed the entire universe and I see us kind of land. 180 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:49,120 I don't know what happened between the moment we land, but I'm instantly inside an extremely 181 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,880 illuminated space. 182 00:12:51,880 --> 00:13:00,360 It's indoor and there are about 20 to 25 beings of light waiting for me. 183 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:05,200 They were so happy to see me arriving. 184 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:06,200 They were excited. 185 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:10,000 They said, she's here, she's here, she's here. 186 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,440 And they said, she is back. 187 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,040 Did you recognize any of them? 188 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:15,760 Did you know who they were? 189 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:22,600 I totally knew them, but I didn't recognize them. 190 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:23,600 If that makes sense. 191 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:24,600 I knew them. 192 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:25,600 I knew them. 193 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,160 I knew that they were my family. 194 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,960 I knew that they were my creed, my tribe. 195 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:30,960 I was home. 196 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:32,880 They were part of my tribe. 197 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:34,080 I knew them. 198 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:42,240 I knew I was familiar with them, but I didn't say, oh, it was John or Mark or Angie or, you 199 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:43,640 know, or Miriam. 200 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,320 So I did, but I knew I was home. 201 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:46,320 I knew I was home. 202 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:55,520 I knew it's very unique because I, it, it felt like I was waking up from a nightmare 203 00:13:55,520 --> 00:14:04,040 and the nightmare was my life, was earth and I was like, I was, oh my God, I am so excited. 204 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:10,160 I'm so relieved that what I was experiencing on earth is not really me. 205 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:11,800 I was so relieved. 206 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:16,320 It's just like anyone who has a nightmare and wake up and say, oh my God, I'm so happy 207 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:17,880 that it wasn't a reality. 208 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,080 That's exactly how I felt. 209 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:26,760 I felt that earth was many planets away, very far in the cosmos. 210 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:33,240 And I was there for something that I knew I had to do, but that was not my home. 211 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:37,520 That here was home with all my older beings out there. 212 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,160 That's what I knew. 213 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:43,520 So those beings were there waiting for me and I'm excited. 214 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,720 I feel like I'm finally home. 215 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:53,720 And they are so excited that they, just like when you have a birthday party and everybody's 216 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:59,680 around you and celebrating you all and you're the, the, the point of joy. 217 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:00,680 And that's how I felt. 218 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:01,680 I was a point of their joy. 219 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,040 They were so happy to see me. 220 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:04,480 They were so happy. 221 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:06,000 And I was happy to see them too. 222 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:13,400 And we were hugging and embracing and, and, and then we sat on, everything in that place 223 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,080 was made of light. 224 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,160 The ground was light. 225 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:22,680 There were some type of furniture, but they were made of solid light and not just a random 226 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:23,680 light. 227 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,960 Everything was divine light. 228 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,040 Was God's light. 229 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:29,760 Everything was God's light was divine. 230 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:31,400 That was, it was everywhere. 231 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,320 Divinity was everywhere. 232 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,320 We didn't have to even question it. 233 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:36,320 It was everywhere. 234 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:42,520 And those beings that were waiting for me were also made, were made of light inside. 235 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:43,840 There was no bone. 236 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:44,840 No, no. 237 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:46,840 Everything was also, they were made of light. 238 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:51,280 So they were emanating light all around them as well. 239 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,800 So we all set together. 240 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,600 For some reason they didn't have white robes, those beings. 241 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:01,160 They were just normal outfit, but everything was made of light. 242 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,520 And we sat on a subtype of sofa. 243 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,720 Everything is light, solid light. 244 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:06,880 They are hugging me. 245 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:12,720 They're asking me to catch up what I'm doing on earth and they are all wanting to serve 246 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:13,720 me. 247 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:14,720 Do you want this? 248 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:21,040 And I have to say that because that's how we treat one another in the world of light. 249 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:26,240 The other person is the most important person, not us. 250 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,080 It's the opposite of earth. 251 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:33,920 On earth it's all about me, me, me and the society's pushing it so that we forget about 252 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:38,720 everyone around us, but we just want to be so, so satisfied. 253 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:43,920 And the society is just brainwashing everyone and there's anxiety if we are not recognized. 254 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:50,120 But in the other world, the total happiness is to make the other one happy and to serve 255 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:51,120 the other one. 256 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,000 And everyone is like that with each other. 257 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,840 So they were trying to give me, how are you? 258 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:56,440 Are you making me comfortable? 259 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:57,440 And we were catching up. 260 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:58,440 I was home. 261 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,120 I was like, I was finally home. 262 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:01,120 I was so happy. 263 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,760 I said, oh my God, I'm so happy I'm home. 264 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:11,600 And but after a while like that, another being, a female being came towards me, took me outside 265 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:12,600 of the group. 266 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:16,840 I think she was more senior, more advanced. 267 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:24,880 And she actually put her two hands on my cheek on both sides of my cheeks. 268 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:33,480 And then she said, your experience on planet earth is such a difficult one. 269 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,200 I said, yeah, it's horrible. 270 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:37,600 I said, yeah, it's difficult. 271 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:39,480 It's so difficult. 272 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,200 I said, it's really hard. 273 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:46,480 And she said, but you have to go back. 274 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:47,480 You cannot stay. 275 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:48,480 You have to go back. 276 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:49,520 You'll come back later. 277 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,760 You have to go back. 278 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:57,480 And you have to go back now because that container, which is your body there, if you don't go 279 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:02,360 back now, it's not going to be able to welcome you back in. 280 00:18:02,360 --> 00:18:04,000 So you have to go back. 281 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:12,720 And when she said that those two beings, those two divine escort soldiers were back to drive 282 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:17,240 me to drive me back there, I have to tell you something that I forgot to tell you is 283 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:23,640 that those two beings when we came from earth, when we crossed the entire universe to go 284 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:31,120 to that home that I'm talking about, I could feel each time I was with them, whether to 285 00:18:31,120 --> 00:18:37,680 go there and come back, I could feel that those two angels or angelic beings or soldiers 286 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:44,560 were so powerful that nothing, nothing, nothing in the entire cosmos could ever happen to 287 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:45,560 me. 288 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,000 I was ultra protected. 289 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:54,960 They were so divine, powerfully made that if there were other rays, other planets, other, 290 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,800 I don't know, well, nothing could ever touch me. 291 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,400 They were that powerful. 292 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:05,200 And so when she said, you have to go back, those two beings were there. 293 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:12,520 And the same way we came, I went in between them, we entered the spaceship, it closed, 294 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:17,280 and the same way in one second, we crossed and we came back to earth. 295 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:21,680 Again, I felt my spirit coming back inside my body. 296 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:22,680 All right. 297 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,080 Here come a hundred questions. 298 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:26,720 I'm sorry, were you finished? 299 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:32,360 I just want to say that that's when I knew that I existed before in the faith I had before 300 00:19:32,360 --> 00:19:34,800 my Andy, we were created here. 301 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:36,480 We never existed before. 302 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:41,480 But the fact that they said you're back, you're back, made me think, okay, so I existed before 303 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:42,480 I was on earth. 304 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,960 And that's something I had to say. 305 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:46,840 That totally makes sense. 306 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:51,000 Okay, you've had time to think about all of this. 307 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:55,080 So I want your opinion on some of it, if you have figured it out. 308 00:19:55,080 --> 00:20:00,680 And my first one is, why do you think you needed to be in some kind of spaceship? 309 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:04,920 Couldn't they have just transported you without? 310 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:09,760 That's a big question because I've been talking about that with my sister. 311 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:15,840 As I said, my sister in Brussels also had a near-death experience because she had something, 312 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,600 a tumor. 313 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:22,120 And for her, she was welcomed by one being of life. 314 00:20:22,120 --> 00:20:26,480 But he took her through the cosmos without any spaceship. 315 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,520 And she saw all the stars and everything. 316 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:34,000 And my two sisters had also, can you believe that we are three? 317 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,080 My two sisters had near-death experiences. 318 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,080 It's unheard of. 319 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:44,080 And when I shared mine to my older sister, she said, oh, I had also two. 320 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:48,120 She said, when she gave birth to her twins, and then when she choked because she had a 321 00:20:48,120 --> 00:20:53,320 bone of some meat blocked on her throat, I mean, it's horrible. 322 00:20:53,320 --> 00:21:00,760 So the three of us, the one me, me, the one in the middle, is the one who was taken through 323 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,760 space without spaceship. 324 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:08,600 I don't know why that element was added for me. 325 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,160 I have absolutely, I've always thought of that. 326 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:15,680 Maybe because I'm not very daring. 327 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:19,280 I'm not somebody who is going to do all kind of daring things. 328 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,320 And I just like my comfort and things well done. 329 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,480 I'm very daring emotionally, but not physically. 330 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:26,480 So I don't know. 331 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,680 Maybe they wanted to make me feel comfortable. 332 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,400 I have no idea, Eric. 333 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,640 I'm not going to lie or create a story. 334 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:33,640 No, that's okay. 335 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:37,240 I just wonder what you thought of it. 336 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:38,240 The two beings. 337 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,480 And I like your term guides. 338 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,800 Would you also call them angels? 339 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:50,800 When I had my NDE, I called them angels because they had the white robe, they had their blondish 340 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:51,800 hair. 341 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,440 So I called them, but I didn't have any wings. 342 00:21:54,440 --> 00:22:02,280 But I call them, now I say angelic beings, beings of light, light beings, angelic beings, 343 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,040 some people say guides. 344 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,640 Well and who's to say angels have to have wings? 345 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:07,640 Yeah, exactly. 346 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,720 Isn't that kind of a man-made thing anyway? 347 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:17,240 Not necessarily because when I was with Jesus, that's why I called them angels because the 348 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,520 children angels and the women angels, they had wings. 349 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:25,760 The beings I met in this near that experience, they were human beings like us, but we made 350 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,400 of light and those two beings had no wings. 351 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,600 So I think in that world, you have all kinds of beings. 352 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:36,440 You have angels, you have humans, you have all kinds of beings. 353 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:41,600 We would be surprised when we go there of all the different people we meet. 354 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,880 Maybe they needed the spaceship because they didn't have wings. 355 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:46,880 I don't know. 356 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:48,880 I don't know. 357 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:55,280 I don't think they could just fly like that probably. 358 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:59,600 Back to the NDE that we talked about previously. 359 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,200 You just mentioned the children angels. 360 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,000 Let's get back to that for one second. 361 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:11,480 I know I'm jumping all over the place, but I found that fascinating and beautiful. 362 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:18,840 Why do you think they were children versus most angels that I hear about or people in 363 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:24,800 the spirit realm appear as adults, young adults? 364 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:33,600 Well, you can have, and I have been at ION since 2013 and I've heard other stories. 365 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:42,600 But necessarily, you have world, there's an angelic population in heaven or in the light. 366 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,600 We are human beings, but there's the angelic world. 367 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:49,640 And when I say go back to your mothers, it was not their mothers necessarily probably 368 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:55,160 a flesh like we have, probably the ones raising them were called mothers. 369 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:56,440 Raising them spiritually? 370 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:57,440 Yes. 371 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,760 Not the physical body, okay. 372 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:06,360 But they probably were probably going to go to the state stature of adult. 373 00:24:06,360 --> 00:24:14,960 Listen, when my sister had her NDE, she went back and she saw not angels, but she saw children 374 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,640 spirits in a spiritual school. 375 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:24,280 And when they saw her, they ran into her and said, yeah, she's back, she's back like me. 376 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:32,240 But then when she went to them, she realized that she was their teacher in the spirit world 377 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:39,560 and she had accepted to come as a human to learn life so that she could teach them more. 378 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:44,520 Because there is a whole population in the light, beings of light, spirits that never 379 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,040 came to earth or other dimension. 380 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:55,480 They stayed in the world of light and we can bring back to those beings what we have learned 381 00:24:55,480 --> 00:25:00,800 because when you're constantly in a world of light with God and you have love and joy, 382 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:07,000 you don't know what betrayal means or what hunger means or distress. 383 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,880 All those aspects are the opposite of God's love. 384 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:16,640 And when we learn all that, we learn even more the dimension of unconditional love. 385 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:22,960 One thing I want to say about that, Eric, my first IAEns ever was in Scottsdale, Arizona 386 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,080 in 2013. 387 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,720 I had never done any interviews ever. 388 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,160 I was unknown. 389 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:35,680 It was my very first time going to something to meet other people like me. 390 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,840 And I met a woman. 391 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:44,240 We went to dinner with other people who were there at the dinner and she was from Europe 392 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:48,120 and she was from the Netherlands so we connected immediately and from Belgium, the Netherlands, 393 00:25:48,120 --> 00:25:50,520 we are neighbouring countries. 394 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:55,760 And she looked at me and she said, and I had never met her. 395 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,320 Nobody knew my story. 396 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:01,840 She said, I've met you in the Crystal City. 397 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,520 You were with children angels. 398 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,080 So you see what I mean? 399 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,240 Yeah, you just blew my mind. 400 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:09,740 That's cool. 401 00:26:09,740 --> 00:26:10,740 That's really cool. 402 00:26:10,740 --> 00:26:17,120 I think we stayed friends until now because she saw me there and I don't have that memory 403 00:26:17,120 --> 00:26:22,040 because remember, I was walking towards the city of light, but then suddenly I was in 404 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,520 the Black Velvete space talking to Jesus. 405 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,720 So I must have gone there but my memory was blocked. 406 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:32,120 Like many experiences, we have a lot of memories blocked. 407 00:26:32,120 --> 00:26:34,000 And some of those things come out later. 408 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,880 You've had quite a few years to process them. 409 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:42,760 Okay, all right, here's the next question in the spirit realm. 410 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,200 Flue in a flying saucer. 411 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,040 And I don't want that to sound silly. 412 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:53,880 I'm not making fun or anything, but has that affected what you think about with things 413 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,560 going on here? 414 00:26:55,560 --> 00:27:03,320 The reality or non-reality of UFOs here and ETs here and people that are abducted here 415 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,000 and things like that. 416 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,720 What is your belief in those things? 417 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:12,000 Did your spiritual experience affect your beliefs at all? 418 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:20,600 Yes, actually after that experience, I started to Google Spaceship Alien because I wanted 419 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:26,000 to have an answer and it was not in my own group that I could have that because we didn't 420 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,240 believe in all that. 421 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:34,520 So I started to be very interested in seeing planets and different places to just understand 422 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,040 my experience. 423 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:42,120 I had a few more, but it's going to be for another, a few more spaceship situations and 424 00:27:42,120 --> 00:27:45,080 planet situations after that. 425 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:53,240 BMH Adwater, who is a very renowned writer, I met with her and she's doing a new book, 426 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:59,840 new research on near-death experiences that have an element of extraterrestrial in their 427 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:07,920 and E or spaceship and she admitted that after all those years that she also had one 428 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:14,400 element of that, but she never dared to share it either because it's always so ridiculed. 429 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:19,920 So it could happen that some people that had near-death experience after their and E would 430 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,520 have element of other world situation. 431 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,200 That was the case for me. 432 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,360 I did have another experience, another spaceship. 433 00:28:28,360 --> 00:28:34,120 So for me, I started to think of that's what I think now, but I don't have the truth in 434 00:28:34,120 --> 00:28:35,280 things. 435 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:42,520 I do believe that there is a physical world with different planets and yes, different 436 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:49,240 life form on different planets because it wouldn't make sense that we have millions of galaxies 437 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:53,560 and suddenly just for us earth human to be alive. 438 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:57,520 That's actually very self-centered. 439 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:58,960 Very arrogant attitude. 440 00:28:58,960 --> 00:28:59,960 Yes. 441 00:28:59,960 --> 00:29:05,000 It does make sense that if there are other planets, other galaxies, other that there 442 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,600 is life there. 443 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,040 So that makes sense. 444 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:15,720 And I have a French YouTube channel on NDEs and I interviewed a lady who she's now 85 445 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:16,720 years old. 446 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,520 She had an ND when she was giving birth in her early 30s. 447 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:21,680 She doesn't speak any English. 448 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,880 She doesn't know anything about alien or extraterrestrial, nothing. 449 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,680 And there's very little literature in French on that topic anyway. 450 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:34,160 So when she was, she had her near that experienced dying from giving birth. 451 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:35,840 She had lost all her blood. 452 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,760 And it's a French interview that I have done from her. 453 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,560 And she said that she was in a spaceship too. 454 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:47,840 And then there was that being with a white long robe also. 455 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:57,280 And that one being told her, told her that she was from Venus and that they'd been helping 456 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:04,120 people on earth for centuries to grow into that unconditional love state and become more 457 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:09,480 loving beings that can connect directly with God because we were in a very, we are not 458 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,120 a very advanced planet. 459 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,440 Let's put it that way. 460 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,080 So yeah, I do believe there are other beings. 461 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:23,160 But I do believe there's two different things, the planets and the universe and the aliens 462 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,040 and the extraterrestrial. 463 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:30,360 And when you die, when you go to the other world, the world of light, the world of God, 464 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:34,560 the world of where we come from. 465 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,240 So that's two different worlds. 466 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,280 Because a physical world, people are still alive. 467 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,200 All those beings are still alive like we are alive here. 468 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:48,080 And then at some point, die and go back to the center of all creation, which is God. 469 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:49,760 That's what I believe. 470 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,080 But I may be wrong. 471 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,040 I mean, that's what I'm thinking. 472 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,960 Well, I asked your opinion and I appreciate your opinion. 473 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,480 Can you expound on that any? 474 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,600 Where do you think we came from? 475 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:07,360 What I do believe is, and that's a belief I have after having many friends that didn't 476 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:13,240 have any of that experience when they were alive, but remember who they were before coming 477 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,800 to Earth, the pre-birth memories. 478 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:22,680 So when I talk to them and also when I read some of the books, we come from that world 479 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:29,480 of lights where we were in the center of creation with Creator, with Father. 480 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,440 Everyone is a spirit, a soul. 481 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:39,000 And then we make our journey towards either Earth or other dimensions, other worlds, other 482 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:44,120 planets, to experience what we want to experience on this Earth. 483 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,040 I have a very dear friend. 484 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,280 She had a pre-birth memory. 485 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:53,720 She remembered choosing the planet, choosing how she was going to look like, and also what 486 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:58,360 religion she would have for what she wanted to learn on Earth. 487 00:31:58,360 --> 00:31:59,780 And that was big. 488 00:31:59,780 --> 00:32:05,080 So I do believe we are souls and we are amazing beings, amazing spirit of light. 489 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:06,560 We are royalty. 490 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:11,800 And we come on a journey to help and to learn and to help as well, I think, when we can 491 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:12,800 give love. 492 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,760 And that's the only reason I do those interviews. 493 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,640 It's not out of an ego thing, I want to be on an interview. 494 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:23,760 It's more like, because I want to spread love, I want to spread awakening that we can give 495 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:28,320 love to others, that our first purpose is to love and be loved. 496 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,760 And we can expand that every day in our life. 497 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:38,200 We can do, we can give, we can look at somebody and smile, we can open a door, we can help 498 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:39,840 somebody in need. 499 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:44,640 If somebody tells you a problem, you can be there and hold the space with them and listen 500 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:45,640 and encourage. 501 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,840 That's a big purpose. 502 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,160 Everyone is always, oh, what is my purpose on Earth? 503 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:51,160 What's my mission? 504 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,280 It's very easy. 505 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:59,040 The first mission is to love ourselves and love others and conditionally the best way 506 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:00,880 we can. 507 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,680 And that's a huge mission. 508 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:07,040 I think we're here to, and the people that have had any experience of spiritual awakening 509 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:13,520 or are in a religion, and I don't want to criticize any religion because everyone in 510 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:19,680 a way, deep down, is trying to connect with Creator or God or Source or God. 511 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:25,120 We are trying to connect to that ultimate love and goodness of life. 512 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:29,320 And because there's all, everyone is thinking we are in the truth, you have the truth, I 513 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:30,320 have the truth. 514 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:37,360 I mean, sometimes it just makes my heart spin because everyone is just depending their own 515 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,200 spirituality, like the truth. 516 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:45,680 And we are all, as long as you connect with God's love, you're in the right direction. 517 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,680 And everything else will know when we go there. 518 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,680 So, beautifully said. 519 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,880 Yvonne, thank you so much for being with me today. 520 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,880 Oh, it was a pleasure, Eric. 521 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,380 It was a real pleasure. 522 00:33:57,380 --> 00:34:01,440 Thank you for inviting me. 523 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,200 Thanks again for listening and sharing this podcast. 524 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:10,320 Don't forget to hit the follow or subscribe button and sign up for our newsletter at roundtriptest.com. 525 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:14,600 If you want to share your near-death experience, or if you have questions or comments about 526 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,920 the show, send an email to ericatroundtriptest.com. 527 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:48,120 Until then, I wish you everything good that you're looking for in this life and the next.