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From the time that they pronounced me deaf was a good 45 minutes.

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They cut my clothes and then they paddled my heart, my heart had stopped.

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And I could see people screaming and crying, but I didn't realize that was actually my

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physical body because I was somewhere else.

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The only thing that I could feel, if you could imagine, absolute love and peace, there wasn't

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anything else to be felt.

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I was greeted by people I'd known in the past.

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I'm back home again.

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Incredibly safe and felt at home.

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Welcome to Round Trip Death, everybody.

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And welcome to our special guest today, Carlos Vivas.

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Good morning, how are you?

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Good morning, Eric.

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I'm glad to be here with all of you in your program.

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So let's do it.

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All right.

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Well, thank you.

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I'd like our listeners to be able to get to know you just a little bit.

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Tell us something about you.

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Okay.

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Well, my name is Carlos Vivas.

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I'm from Caracas, Venezuela.

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I moved to the States more than 25 years ago.

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I was raised in a Catholic family.

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My mom was an interior designer.

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My dad used to work with a petroleum company.

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And we have a really nice life back home.

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Then when my mother died, that's when I moved to Atlanta, Georgia.

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Since then, I've just been working.

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And just after this experience, my spiritual life has started to grow.

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And it's been an amazing life, beautiful life.

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That is awesome.

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And I know that you do a lot of good out there right now.

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And we'll get into some of that later on too.

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But I just wanted to give sort of a brief tease to what people are going to hear today

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with your story.

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This is the feel good story of the week.

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People are going to love this.

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We often hear stories of kind of horrible, terrifying deaths and, you know, months and

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months of recovery, painful and all kinds of things like that.

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Yours is absolutely beautiful.

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Some people are going to have a hard time believing it because it's so beautiful.

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We'll talk about that when we get there anyway with no further ado.

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Let's jump right in.

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Your near death experience was in 2015, but you had had an experience with a miraculous

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recovery earlier in life.

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What would you mind telling us about that first?

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Sure.

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So when I was 14 years old, I was diagnosed with a terminal cancer, was leukemia.

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We visit more than 10 doctors and nobody will tell us to my mom, my dad and me what I had

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until the last option was to visit this doctor that was a really good doctor on blood.

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He's got an amatologist.

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And then when we went with him, he took a lot of tests on me.

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He run a lot of tests.

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And then he came and said, after our first testing, he called my mom and dad and said,

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I'm sorry, I have a bad news to give you guys.

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Carlos and he looked at me, my mom, my dad were sitting in front of the doctor on his

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office.

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He said, I'm sorry, but you have three months.

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And I was like, three months, three months for what?

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So you have three months to leave your terminal.

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So my mom started crying.

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My dad started crying.

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I felt shocked.

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But in that moment, for the first time in my life, I heard a voice inside of me that

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said that he don't have the last word I had.

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I was like, what is that?

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Of course, I was raised in the 80s.

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And you know, the parents were more strict.

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And I didn't want to say anything to my mom because I know she's going to slap me on my

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face thinking that I'm making fun of this.

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You know, I didn't want to make fun of this.

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So I just preferred to didn't say anything and keep quiet.

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After my mom cried with the doctor and begging for some relief, something to do with me.

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The doctor gave her two options to help me.

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So the number one option was traveling to Houston, Texas to do a bone marrow transplant.

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And my mother asked the doctor, like, is that good?

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Like, what is the probability that he's going to survive?

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And the doctor said, well, that's one of the best things that we can do.

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You know, it's like 50-50 chance.

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And we don't know, but it's the best.

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And my mom said, how much is going to cost?

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And the doctor said, you have insurance.

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And that's the only idea, I have insurance.

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And the doctor said, well, you're going to have to sell your car, you're going to have

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to sell your cars.

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And maybe we can do the surgery.

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And my mom said, OK, if I sell everything, will you save my son 100% or the doctor said,

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no, I can't tell you that, you know?

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And then the doctor looked, wait a minute, I have another option.

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The second option is traveling to France and get this formula that I'm working with

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another doctors.

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It's going to help the bone marrow to start working again.

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We don't know.

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We're going to be studying right now.

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But at least you're doing something.

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So my mom said, you know what?

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I work at the Air Force.

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I can speak with one of my bosses or somebody that's going to France to get this formula.

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And that's what she took at the end.

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She went to her work.

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She spoke with her boss.

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They went to France.

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They took the formula, brought it.

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I start taking the treatment.

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And after the first month, I go to the doctor's office.

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He grunt at me again.

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And he said to my mom, I'm sorry, the formula is not working in your son.

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And then my mom started crying again.

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The doctor said, look, hold on, let's wait until the whole treatment and it's three months.

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So at the end of three months, we go back to the doctor.

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And the doctor said, no, it's not working.

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It's still not working.

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So my mom, we go back home.

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My mom feel horrible.

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My dad feel horrible.

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I feel even worse because I said to God, like, what I have done to deserve this, you know?

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I'm just a good kid.

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And then one day, my mom was working.

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My dad was working.

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I was by myself at home.

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I went on my knees and I asked God, like, God, if you're really excessive, you're really

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here with me and you can hear me, let's do a deal right here.

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If you save me with this cancer, I'm going to tell the whole world that you're real because

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I'm going to be a living proof that you exist.

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And I said, in that moment, I start feeling keto over my body.

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And I said, this is it.

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And I started making me solicitations.

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All these came to my mind, like imagine myself in the future buying a house, getting a good

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job, graduating at the university and all these.

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So little by little, every day I was giving thanks God, thanks God for my healing.

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I was feeling amazing.

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And after days after that, the doctors say, okay, what I'm going to do, the final test

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is the CT scan.

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So we go there.

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He did the CT scan.

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When I get out of the CT scan, the results came blank.

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My cancer disappeared.

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So my mom was super happy.

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It's like, oh my God, doctor, this is a miracle.

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This is a miracle.

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And the doctor said, no, ma'am, this is not a miracle.

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This is called remission.

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Remission is when the cancer disappeared and this come back more aggressive.

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I'm like, no, it's a miracle.

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And that moment I heard like the voice again inside of me, this will never happen again.

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I was like, okay.

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And that was it for me on that story.

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And remember, I promised to God that I'm going to say this to the whole world, but I was

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14 years old.

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Who ain't going to be telling this?

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You know what cracks me up?

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How often do we think we're in a position that we can create some kind of a bargain with

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God?

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Right?

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I'm going to negotiate.

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If I do this, well, you do that.

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I mean, who do we think we are?

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And it doesn't always work.

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I don't know.

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I have a lot of faith in that moment.

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So maybe that helped me.

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Absolutely.

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I guess on the Bible said, you know, like ask and you shall receive.

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And I believe after a lot of experience that I had, we have free will on earth.

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So if you don't open your mouth and you don't ask, nothing's going to get done given to

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you because it's your life and you decide what's going to happen to you.

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If you ask for help as the name of a book, help from heaven, maybe you will receive the

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help.

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But if you don't say anything, it's like you're taking it with you, you know?

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So that's what it lead me to my second story.

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You want me to tell you a second story?

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Yeah.

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Let's go ahead and fast forward now to 2015.

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Tell us where you were and what you were doing that particular day.

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So in 2015, I'm going to tell you a little quick.

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I wake up in the morning in my house, I go to the living room.

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It was a sunny day Saturday and I, when I turned the TV on, it was the news and the

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word going through some guy that entered into a school and he started fighting against

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some kids.

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So I feel bad in that moment.

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And I said, really God, really?

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Why these innocent kids have to die, you know?

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Like I'm done with this.

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So I turn off the TV off and I said, I'm done.

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I mean, if you don't explain me right now, why did this is going on?

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I don't want to believe in you anymore, you know?

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Because this is not fair.

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And in that moment, my phone rings, my solar phone.

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So I grabbed my phone.

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It was one of my best friend Jorge.

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I said, Carlos, what are you doing the next week?

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It's going to be Memorial Day.

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And I said, nothing next week.

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And no, I don't have anything planned right now.

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I said, okay, because my family is coming to, is going to Panama City Beach.

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I said, okay, let's do it.

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I go.

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So we travel the next week to Panama City and on the way there, a lot of stuff's happening.

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Like, we have a lot of traffic and then we have accidents on the way.

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The weather was changing.

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For me, right now, that was red flags telling me, don't go.

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But at the end, listen, red flags, because I wasn't superstitious on stuff.

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Right now, after all the experience, like the first red flag, I'm out.

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I listen, you know?

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After we passed all these red flags, we arrived to Panama City.

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We went to the first beach.

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It was packed.

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Second beach was packed.

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Third one was packed.

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And I said to my friend, you know what?

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Let's go to a park.

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It's called San Andres State Park.

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And they have a marina there.

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We can go to an island called Shell Island.

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I don't think people want us to pay to go there.

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You know, if they have their whole family, they're going to have to pay for their whole

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family.

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Anyways, we went to this national park.

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We paid $8 to get in there.

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We paid $20 to get the boat to go to the island.

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When we arrived to the island, the bayside was full.

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So my friend, Carlos is full too.

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I said, like, no, no, no.

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You know what?

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Let's go to the back side of the island.

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So we walked to the back side of the island.

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We were walking.

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There was a guy with five kids.

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And he asked me because I was walking first, excuse me, sir, where are you going?

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What do you think you're going?

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So I'm going to the other side.

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I said, like, why?

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And you see everybody's here because this is the bayside.

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It's the most safe place.

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I said, yes, sir.

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Everybody's back.

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I want to hear the ocean.

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I want to feel the tranquility of the day.

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You know, I said, well, be careful.

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So that was another red flag, but I didn't listen to it.

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So I went to the other side.

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And then my friends and me, we opened a canopy.

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There was nobody there.

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And we start opening the canopy.

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And the wind is blowing.

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The canopy opens like a parachute.

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And for 45 minutes, we're fighting to put this canopy down.

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That was another red flag.

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And then after 45 minutes, we find some rocks and put it in every corner.

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As soon as we did that, we pulled the chairs, re-installed food, some drinks, some music.

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And we stayed up there from 9 a.m. to 4 p.m.

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Around 4 p.m., my friends said, Carlos, we're going to walk around the island because the

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last boat leave at 5.30.

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I said, OK, guys, you'll be here in one hour, around 5, because we need to pick up all these

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and go back to get the boat back to Bannasini.

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Give me an idea of how big this island is when you talk about walking around the backside.

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I believe it could be like 30 minutes.

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I think 30 minutes walking in a circle.

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So maybe a mile all the way around or something like that.

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Yeah, maybe.

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I mean, I don't know how big it is, but yeah, maybe a mile.

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So it's a pretty small island.

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OK.

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But you go around the backside.

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There's no people.

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Then your friends go for a walk.

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So you're completely alone on this beach, right?

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Yeah.

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Great time to jump in the water.

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And then it's...

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Sorry.

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A little sarcasm this morning.

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No, no, your fight is true.

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Yeah, never swim alone, children.

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OK, go ahead.

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You're right.

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So that was a huge mistake of mine.

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What happened was it was getting hot because the sun was very spicy, was very hot.

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So I said, I don't know what, I'm just going to jump into the water.

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I'm going to swim a little bit.

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The ocean was looking good.

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Nothing weird was in the water.

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So I jump into the water, I start swimming, and out of the sudden, this whirlpool under

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the water started taking me in.

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So if people watched the movie Finding Nemo, you can see what is an Australian curry.

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It's like a tunnel under the water that pulled you out far, far away.

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I was caught in this.

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I didn't know if the name was Riptide.

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So for me, it was a whirlpool.

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So it grabbed me and throw me far, far away.

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When this stopped, I pulled my head out of the water and I was half a mile away from

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the water, like, what, how I get here?

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You know, I said, okay, I just need to swim back.

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I cannot panic right now.

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So let me start swimming.

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So I started swimming, swimming, swimming.

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And when I pulled my head out of the water, I was far, even farther.

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I was like, what?

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It was like, I wasn't moving at all.

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So let's explain real quick.

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For those that haven't spent much time in the ocean.

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So a rip current is a place where the current actually comes along the shore and then it

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funnels straight out to sea.

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And if you're in this rip current, they're just too strong.

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You can't, you know, you can be a really strong swimmer head straight for shore and you're

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either staying in one place or going backwards, going further out to sea.

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Now there is a way around that, but that wasn't something that you knew and it's really easy

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to panic.

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How far would you say you were offshore?

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A couple hundred yards?

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I mean, the island was very small from where I was seeing.

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So I couldn't believe I was that far.

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You know, I heard stories that people go extremely far, but he's in seconds.

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He happens super fast, you know.

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And yeah, when you see, you just want to go back where you were, you know, so you're trying

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to fight.

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And me, I never heard in my life about rip ties, so I didn't know where a rip tie was

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or what to do.

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And I panicked.

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You know, I was trying to swim even faster, but the, the whirlpool, it was taking me even

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deeper into the ocean.

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And after 20, 25 minutes, I was fighting and fighting and fighting.

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I started getting completely debilitated and I said, you know what, this is it.

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This is perfect.

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It's going to be almost 5 p.m.

328
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The last boat leave at 5 30.

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Nobody's watching.

330
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Everybody's gone from here.

331
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The last boat is going to leave in 30 minutes out of here until tomorrow.

332
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So yeah, this is it.

333
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So you just resigned yourself.

334
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I'm done.

335
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Yeah, I'm done because I tried.

336
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I can't get to shore.

337
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There's no one here to help me.

338
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I'm done.

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I'm done.

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Adios.

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Adios.

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And in that moment, I said, well, before I die, I just want to say something to God.

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So in that moment, I said, God, I never thought in a million years that today's going to be

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my last day.

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But if you want to take me and ready all before you take me, I just want to say thank you.

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I want to say thank you for my mom, my dad, my brothers, my sisters.

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Thank you for everything you gave me.

348
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And I'm sorry if I did something wrong.

349
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And in that moment behind me, I heard a voice that said, ask for help.

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I was like, what?

351
00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:13,520
I thought, what's my imagination?

352
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I look everywhere.

353
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I didn't see anybody.

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I said, oh my God, this is my mind.

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And then trying to swim a little bit more.

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And then I heard again, ask for help.

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And I was like, are you kidding me?

358
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Could you please help me?

359
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What are you doing?

360
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Like you see I'm drowning here.

361
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Nothing.

362
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Just the water and the wind.

363
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I tried to swim back again.

364
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And then I heard, I told you to ask for help.

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And I was like, oh my God, that I never going to make it.

366
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Don't you see the distance?

367
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It's too far.

368
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I said, OK, I'll do it.

369
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So I started screaming, help, help, help.

370
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As soon as I started getting help, help, help.

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One of my friends that was in the group going around the island, he felt something was wrong.

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His name is Enrique.

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So he went back to the tent.

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He didn't saw me there.

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He went to the beach.

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He didn't saw me in the beach.

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He started walking around looking for me until he saw a hill.

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He went to the top of the hill or rocks.

379
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He saw me from the hill.

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He started jumping Carlos, Carlos, here.

381
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I'm going to call 911.

382
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Hold on, hold on.

383
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But he didn't call 911.

384
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He went back to the tent.

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He grabbed some tubing because he was so nervous.

386
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And he went to the top and he started dropping the tubings.

387
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But like I said, I was, I don't know.

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Half a mile away.

389
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And then the tubing was flying back to him.

390
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I was like, oh my God, oh my God.

391
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So he get down off the hill and he run to the other side of the island and he bring

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people, 15, 20 people from the other side, from the hill, six guys jump and everybody

393
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was swimming my way.

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And when I see that, I say, oh my God, thank you, God.

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They're going to save me.

396
00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:42,280
Thank you.

397
00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:43,280
Well, guess what?

398
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10 minutes pass and nobody can reach me because the ocean is taking me.

399
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And then when I see everybody coming like 10 minutes later, everybody starts turning

400
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around.

401
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I was like, what are they doing?

402
00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:55,600
They're going to leave me here.

403
00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,840
And then I heard a thunder behind me, room.

404
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And then I look back and the sky was getting dark and a big thunderstorm was coming.

405
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And I said, okay, this is it.

406
00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:09,240
So when everybody turned around and left me and I see this thunderstorm coming, I say,

407
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God, you know what?

408
00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:11,240
I just going to surrender.

409
00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,880
I don't want to fight anymore.

410
00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:14,880
You know?

411
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I mean, just do what did you have to do?

412
00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:18,760
And I'm ready, you know?

413
00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:24,280
And in that moment, a huge wave came and crushed me all the way into the ocean.

414
00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:29,800
So when I was under the water, I open my eyes and I see a black shadow coming my way.

415
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So I thought it was a chart.

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So I covered my face.

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00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:37,280
And when I covered my face, this thing grabbed me by my stomach and pushed me all the way

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up.

419
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And I was like, what?

420
00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:44,640
So when I get out, I handle this thing that it was huge.

421
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Guess what it was?

422
00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:47,920
It was a huge gray dolphin.

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I started crying because I couldn't believe this animal saved my life, you know?

424
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So I grabbed the dolphin by the tail by the thing and just crying there, you know, like

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a baby.

426
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And he was just looking at me.

427
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I was looking at him and looking in his eyes and was like, how do you know?

428
00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:05,320
How do you save me?

429
00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:06,760
Like, why do you save me?

430
00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,120
You know, like, he was just looking at me.

431
00:19:09,120 --> 00:19:10,200
He didn't move nothing.

432
00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:11,800
He was just floating right there.

433
00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:16,400
10 minutes later, a feature of a boat show up in front of me and he said, son, I can't

434
00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:20,760
save you, but he was like 20, 25 feet away from me.

435
00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:26,680
He said, I cannot get close to you because the wave from the thunderstorms are so big

436
00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,080
I'm going to hit you with my boat.

437
00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:31,040
I'm going to throw you a rope and then you grab it and come here.

438
00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:32,040
So I grab it.

439
00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:33,040
I start going to the boat.

440
00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:34,520
The dolphin is still next to me.

441
00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:39,920
And when I get to the boat, I get something like, as soon as I get something there, the

442
00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:41,920
guy says, where are you doing?

443
00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:42,920
Where are you doing?

444
00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:43,920
You need to get in now.

445
00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:44,920
I was like, sorry, can you please let me breathe?

446
00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:46,840
I'm being here for like 30 minutes, 40 minutes.

447
00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:47,840
I'm super tired.

448
00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,520
I said, I know you don't understand my body sinking.

449
00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:52,080
I said, your body sinking.

450
00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:53,080
What are you talking about?

451
00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:57,760
I said, yeah, I have a pump and the pump is stopped and all the water from the waves

452
00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:58,760
that are getting inside.

453
00:19:58,760 --> 00:19:59,760
So it's getting further.

454
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I need to hurry up.

455
00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,720
Go to the bag and jump in.

456
00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:05,200
You have any questions?

457
00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:06,600
All right.

458
00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:07,600
Slow down a second.

459
00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,880
This is going too fast for me.

460
00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:10,880
Okay.

461
00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:11,880
Okay.

462
00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,840
The wave comes, you go underwater.

463
00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:21,760
How far, can you take a guess how far underwater were you when the dolphin came and started

464
00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:23,160
pushing you up?

465
00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:28,120
I really don't know because I mean, I couldn't touch the bottom of the ocean at that point.

466
00:20:28,120 --> 00:20:31,640
I was super far away into the ocean, you know?

467
00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,080
And I cannot tell you the metrics.

468
00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:35,080
That's okay.

469
00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,160
I was just curious if you had a feel for it.

470
00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:42,720
You know, a big gray dolphin comes and pushes you to the surface.

471
00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:46,360
Now, I think this is spectacular.

472
00:20:46,360 --> 00:20:49,800
And unfortunately, there are a few people that are going to say, oh, come on.

473
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,040
I grew up watching flipper.

474
00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,760
That's what happened, but that was make believe.

475
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:58,960
Did dolphins really do this?

476
00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:00,280
Please explain more.

477
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:01,800
I want to believe.

478
00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:07,400
I do believe you, but for the skeptics, explain more.

479
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,360
Well, for the skeptic, I cannot do anything.

480
00:21:09,360 --> 00:21:11,120
You know, this is my story.

481
00:21:11,120 --> 00:21:12,560
And I just telling what happened to me.

482
00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:16,000
I'm not the only person that's been saved by dolphins around the world.

483
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:20,240
If you Google how many people have been saved by dolphins, hundreds of people have been

484
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,480
saving by dolphins through history.

485
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:23,480
Why they do that?

486
00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,040
I don't have the answer for that.

487
00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,440
I never spoke with a dolphin.

488
00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:35,520
But they have certain likeness for humans, you know, and they do this in Australia, in

489
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,680
London, I mean, so many places in Cuba.

490
00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:44,520
There's so many stories of dolphins having people that I've never heard this before.

491
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:45,600
What was happening to me?

492
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:46,600
I don't know.

493
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:47,600
You know?

494
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,720
It's so cool and it's amazing.

495
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,640
So the dolphin pushes you to the surface.

496
00:21:53,640 --> 00:22:00,520
And then you're hanging onto it like a flotation kind of thing until the boat comes.

497
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:01,520
Okay.

498
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,480
That's really cool.

499
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,720
How big would you say this dolphin was?

500
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:06,720
It was huge.

501
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,280
It was really big.

502
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:12,040
I don't know the metrics of the dolphin, but it was big.

503
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:13,200
It was really big.

504
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:14,520
All right.

505
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:18,560
So now it's time to get in your rescue boat and the boat is sinking.

506
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:19,560
Sorry.

507
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,160
This is not funny.

508
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,760
But it's a comedy of errors kind of a thing too.

509
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:25,760
Okay.

510
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:26,760
I know.

511
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,360
So I jump into the boat and the guys and I come out and sit down right here.

512
00:22:30,360 --> 00:22:34,160
So I see the water and everyone on the boat and I said, sir, do you have any bucket?

513
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,080
I help you to get the water off the boat.

514
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:37,760
The water was like this inside of the boat.

515
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:39,560
So I get scared, you know?

516
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:40,920
I said, like, we don't have time for that.

517
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:41,920
We need to get out of here.

518
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,080
Come on, sit down next to me.

519
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:44,520
So I sit down next to him.

520
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:48,320
He put a towel over me and she started driving around the island.

521
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,280
So then he asked me, like, are you okay?

522
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:51,280
What happened to you?

523
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:55,480
So I said, sir, I just went to swim a little bit and this current came under the water

524
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,640
and drove me all the way here and I couldn't get out.

525
00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:58,640
I said, but you're fine.

526
00:22:58,640 --> 00:22:59,640
He said, yeah, I'm fine.

527
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,320
I said, okay, where is your family and friends?

528
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,960
Everybody's there on the island.

529
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:05,960
And nobody saw you.

530
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,200
So like, well, they were trying to rescue him, but nobody could, you know?

531
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,960
And then he asked me, let me ask you a question.

532
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:12,960
Where are you from?

533
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:13,960
I said, I'm from Atlanta, Georgia.

534
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,080
And he said, I'm from Atlanta, Georgia too.

535
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:17,680
I said, what part of Atlanta, Georgia?

536
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,840
I'm from Duluth and I said, I'm from North Cross.

537
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,720
Duluth and North Cross is in front of each other.

538
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:24,720
So we're like neighbors.

539
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:25,720
I was like, what?

540
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,720
We live in the same area.

541
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,160
And that was all, you know?

542
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,720
And then he started, oh my God, as soon as I said that, he said, oh my God, look behind

543
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:34,720
you, look behind.

544
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:35,720
I said, what are you talking about?

545
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:40,120
And when I looked behind me, the dolphin was jumping and following the boat all the way

546
00:23:40,120 --> 00:23:41,120
around the island.

547
00:23:41,120 --> 00:23:47,640
And when we get to the bay side of the island, the guy said, okay, rather, uh, go to the

548
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,360
bay side of the island, go to the bay side of the island.

549
00:23:51,360 --> 00:23:52,360
And I said, God bless you.

550
00:23:52,360 --> 00:23:54,360
And I said, sir, thank you for saving my life.

551
00:23:54,360 --> 00:23:55,360
I gave her a hug.

552
00:23:55,360 --> 00:23:57,360
I said, okay, I need to fix my boat.

553
00:23:57,360 --> 00:23:59,360
So I need to get out of here very quick.

554
00:23:59,360 --> 00:24:03,760
But you can walk from here because the levels of the water is a little low.

555
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,760
So you can walk all the way to the shore.

556
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:06,760
So, okay.

557
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:07,760
So he left me there.

558
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:08,760
He left.

559
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,760
I started walking to the shore and then something hit my leg.

560
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,760
And when I looked back, the dolphin was weak.

561
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,840
And the dolphin go from there all the way to the shore.

562
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,280
And when I get to the shore, I was completely broken to myself.

563
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,360
I was like, okay, God, this is it for me.

564
00:24:23,360 --> 00:24:27,640
If you save my life with this dolphin right here, it's because you have a purpose for

565
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:28,640
my life.

566
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,440
I don't know what do you want from me, but I'm going to tell you something from today.

567
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,080
Carlos died into the ocean.

568
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,080
The person who's coming out of the water is going to be you.

569
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:43,000
I want you to go through me and do anything you want through me, you know.

570
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,000
But it's your life.

571
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:45,000
I give you my life.

572
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,000
I give you my soul.

573
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:51,800
And in that moment, it started raining, lightning, and the dolphin live in that moment.

574
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,200
After that happened, people come from the other side of the island.

575
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:56,520
Everybody started hugging me.

576
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,760
Everybody started crying.

577
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:02,760
The people, the management, the guys from the boat, take me back to San Andres State

578
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:03,760
Park.

579
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,800
When we get to the state park, they take me to the administration office.

580
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:08,800
Everybody asked me, like, what happened?

581
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:13,240
I said, what happened is like, there was no life savers there.

582
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:14,720
It wasn't all like a red flag.

583
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,880
I didn't know what a rift I was.

584
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,920
There were no signs that it wasn't a rift I was.

585
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,840
I didn't know what it was.

586
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:26,840
So if you can do that, put it on that island, that's going to help more people, you know.

587
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,720
And then, well, they apologized and all that.

588
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,560
And then my friends and the people that came from the beach and said, what are we going

589
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:32,560
to do now?

590
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:33,800
I was like, let's go to a church.

591
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,040
I said, because this was a miracle.

592
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,220
So I just want to say thank you to God for what he did.

593
00:25:39,220 --> 00:25:42,400
So we drove out of the San Andres State Park.

594
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:50,080
People come behind and other cars and we see this Catholic church and we stopped there.

595
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:51,560
Everybody came out of the cars.

596
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:52,880
We tried to get inside the church.

597
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:58,920
The church was closed, but outside was a garden with like a little chapel.

598
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,080
And the chapel was like a cave.

599
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:06,280
The cave was Virgin Mary, Virgin Fatima with the three kids right there.

600
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:11,560
Everybody said, OK, let's do a circle and let's hug each other and let's pray.

601
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,800
So we prayed for like 10, 20 minutes.

602
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,600
And after that, my friends said, OK, Carlos, what do you want to do now?

603
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,600
I said, I just want to go back to the hotel and get something to go to sleep.

604
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,440
And I said, OK, so take me back to the hotel.

605
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,280
I ate something to the shower.

606
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:30,760
And as soon as I went to bed, put my head on my pillow and that's what I have in a

607
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:31,760
pythony.

608
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:36,400
So for our listeners who know what near-death experiences are, because we talk about them

609
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:42,040
on here all the time, we haven't had one yet in this story.

610
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:47,840
OK, so take a breath, everybody, because this story isn't over.

611
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,240
This is just getting better.

612
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Now, back to the interview.

624
00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:38,080
Yeah, there's several kinds of near-death experience.

625
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:42,000
It's called near-death because you don't die, you're close to die.

626
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,440
And remember, that's what happened to me.

627
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:48,000
If that boat doesn't show up, if the dolphin doesn't show up, it's a near-death.

628
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:55,480
A near-death is a transformative event that changes the course of the person that is involved

629
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,840
on this near-death experience.

630
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:04,520
So most of the near-deaths happen on hospitals when people get the anesthesia and the anesthesia

631
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,560
go over and the people have out-of-body experience.

632
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,320
But my was completely different.

633
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:14,000
My was a spiritual transformative near-death experience.

634
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,360
And there's more, and that's what I'm getting at here.

635
00:28:16,360 --> 00:28:17,360
Yes.

636
00:28:17,360 --> 00:28:19,760
Is in some ways the best is yet to come.

637
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,200
Okay, so you're back at the hotel.

638
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,600
After all this, time to go to sleep.

639
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:26,600
Yes.

640
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:27,920
Go ahead.

641
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,840
Okay, so I go to my bed, I try to get sleep.

642
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,240
As soon as I put my head on the pillow, I have an epiphany.

643
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,360
So epiphany is like a vision.

644
00:28:36,360 --> 00:28:39,160
I never had one, so I thought it was a dream.

645
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:45,440
And in this epiphany, I open my eyes and I'm on the third floor of a cruise in the Caribbean.

646
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:49,400
So I can see the blue ocean, blue skies.

647
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,280
It's a sunny day, it's beautiful.

648
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:55,240
But at the end of the ocean, I see a tsunami rising coming my way.

649
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:56,800
And I was like, oh my God, I'm gonna die.

650
00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,960
So I cover my face, just waiting for the heat to besten that on me.

651
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,920
And I was like, oh my God, I don't want to die, I don't want to die.

652
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:08,280
Well, then 15, 20 minutes passed, nothing happened until somebody come behind me and

653
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,080
touched me and said, Carlos, look at me, look at me.

654
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,160
I was like, no, no, no, no, we're about to die.

655
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,960
And he said, you're never gonna die with me.

656
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:16,960
And I said, like, who are you?

657
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:17,960
I said, look at me.

658
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,080
So I put my hands down and I look back.

659
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:25,360
And I see this guy taller than me, like six-five, with a wide row with light coming from his

660
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:26,360
face.

661
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,960
And he said, please close your eyes.

662
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,080
So in that moment, the way that I saw him, I said, like, this is Jesus.

663
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,640
But I didn't say anything to him, I was thinking this.

664
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,880
So he grabbed me from behind and he hugged me.

665
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,480
And 10 seconds later, he said, open your eyes, please.

666
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,920
And I opened my eyes and he opened his eyes.

667
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:43,920
And I said, like, welcome.

668
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,480
I said, welcome to work.

669
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:46,480
Look in front of you.

670
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:47,960
So I will look in front of me.

671
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:48,960
I was in heaven.

672
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,760
I was like, oh my God.

673
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:51,760
That means that I die.

674
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,000
I was like, no, Jesus, you need to take me back.

675
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,200
I need to do a lot of stuff.

676
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:56,200
You cannot take me right now.

677
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,120
I said, like, you didn't die right now.

678
00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:59,720
You're in the middle right now.

679
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,520
And you make a promise to me.

680
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,920
And you need to fulfill your promise.

681
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:04,920
Welcome to heaven.

682
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,880
From today, you're part of me and part of all of them.

683
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,440
And when he said all of them, millions of people show up in front of me.

684
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:15,920
Like, it was like a huge garden, like a golf course, all green.

685
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,480
And these millions of people show up in white robes.

686
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:23,000
So he said, from today, just start walking with me and walking with them.

687
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,000
I said, OK, do you have any questions?

688
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,160
He said, yes, I have a question.

689
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:27,160
So what's your question?

690
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,400
I said, like, where all these people come from?

691
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,240
I said, they're coming from all over the world.

692
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,080
I said, OK, do you have another question?

693
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:34,080
I said, yes.

694
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:35,080
What is the true religion?

695
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:40,520
There is so many religions in this world that I always try to find where is the real one.

696
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:45,120
And he said, the only thing that I can tell you is when you come to heaven, that it's

697
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:46,960
not a religion in heaven.

698
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,960
What you're going to find in heaven is the love of God.

699
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,320
The love of God is the most powerful towards in the universe.

700
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:58,240
And that's what it's going to unite the whole humanity in one.

701
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,400
And then in that moment, he put his arms over me.

702
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,080
I said, OK, I'm going to give you a live review as he opened his arms.

703
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,760
And he showed me a lot of the screens and those screens.

704
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,240
I can see my life flashing in front of me.

705
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:18,520
And what I was watching is every decision I took, everything that I say to people that

706
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,320
hurt people, I was putting in the other side.

707
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,280
So I was putting in the other person's field.

708
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,800
So I could feel all the pain that I caused to people.

709
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,840
And I could feel whatever I did to other people.

710
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,040
So he wasn't judging me.

711
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:37,760
I was judging myself like, oh my God, I never thought this could hurt so many people.

712
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,160
And after that, and we all do it as humans.

713
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,520
And after that, he said, OK, Carlos, it's time for you to go back.

714
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:50,680
But before you go back, I want you to give this message to everyone there.

715
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,240
Or I say, what is it?

716
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:59,080
Well, I want you to tell people that more than 98% of people around the world have childhood

717
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:00,720
trauma and they need to forgive.

718
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:01,720
I said, forgive who?

719
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,520
I said, they need to forgive their parents.

720
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,200
Number one, they need to forgive three people.

721
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:08,440
But the first is their parents.

722
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:09,440
Why their parents?

723
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:15,000
Because it doesn't matter if they abandon you, if they hit you, if they like you, if

724
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:19,840
they abuse you, whatever they did, they did the best for you.

725
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,320
They didn't have a manual to raise you.

726
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,440
Number two, you need to forgive your inner child.

727
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:26,600
Why your inner child?

728
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,160
Because whatever happened when you was a child is not your fault.

729
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:31,160
Nobody was there.

730
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:32,560
You was scared.

731
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,400
And nobody came to rescue you.

732
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:39,320
And number three, you need to forgive all the people that came to your life to harm you.

733
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:40,320
Why?

734
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:44,640
When you forgive your parents, your inner child, and the people that came to your life to harm

735
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,400
you, you're not forgiving them.

736
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,160
You're forgiving yourself.

737
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:53,120
In that moment, when you forgive, you open your heart and you throw away all the hate,

738
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:59,240
all the resentment, and all the poisons that later will become cancer and other sicknesses.

739
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:03,400
And from that moment, it's like you have a balloon with a string and you cut the balloon.

740
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:04,920
The string and you let the balloon go.

741
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:05,920
You're free.

742
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:11,040
And in that moment, it's when Jesus told me, just start leaving your purpose because everybody

743
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:12,760
came to earth with a purpose.

744
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,160
And what is your purpose?

745
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:15,160
It's really simple.

746
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,320
It's the only thing that you know.

747
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,600
You do better than anybody else.

748
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,920
Everybody on earth have a gift.

749
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,640
Some people cook amazes, some people don't.

750
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,200
It's amazes, some people that are good with gardening.

751
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:28,200
Everybody have a gift.

752
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:33,000
But he said, if you don't want to do that gift, the second gift is called service.

753
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,600
Why service?

754
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,080
Because when you die, you're not taking your money.

755
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:39,560
You're not taking your titles.

756
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,480
You're not taking your house, your car, your Bitcoin.

757
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:47,600
The only thing that you're going to take with you is how many people you help on earth?

758
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,920
How many people you take care of?

759
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,000
How many people you give shelter and food?

760
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:59,040
And what was the blueprint that you left on earth for others to follow you?

761
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:04,560
Look, Mother Teresa of Calcutta, Mahatma Gandhi, Nelson Mandela, Princess Diana.

762
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:10,000
Matthew Luther King, they did service and their service continued until today.

763
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:15,400
Now I ask you, and I ask all the listeners, people that is listening to the program, what

764
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:22,480
are you doing today to leave a legacy of love, to leave a blueprint on this earth?

765
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:29,640
So when it's time for you to go to heaven, you know that you left a beautiful gift for

766
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,960
others to follow.

767
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:36,680
So that's my story, and if you have any questions, let me know.

768
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,880
I have lots of questions.

769
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:45,360
First of all, when you were asleep, and you had this experience with Jesus, did you feel

770
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,480
like this was a regular dream or something more than that?

771
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:49,480
It was more than that.

772
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:55,440
I have more, the day after this was Sunday, after the experience on Monday, I come back

773
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:56,800
to work.

774
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:03,960
I didn't think about this experience until the next day that I come back to work.

775
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:08,400
When I went back to work on Monday, my boss sent me to a customer house.

776
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:13,320
When I go to this customer house, I used to work as a service manager, as a quality assurance

777
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:14,320
manager.

778
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:18,200
So I go to this house and the customer was in the kitchen.

779
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,440
I said, Carlos, one of your employees broke a lamp on my house.

780
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:22,440
It's on the basement.

781
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:23,760
I'm really busy right now.

782
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:28,800
Could you go to the basement, go to the last room and turn the lights, and you will see

783
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,680
a gold lamp on the corner.

784
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,840
If you can buy me a new one or fix that, that's fine.

785
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:39,000
So I go to the basement, I get to the last room, I turn the lights, and what I see next

786
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,320
to the lamp was a huge painting on the wall.

787
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:47,760
Out of this painting, it was exactly the same image that I saw in heaven with Jesus.

788
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:52,120
It was millions of people in the background, Jesus in the middle, in heaven, and at the

789
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,000
bottom of Jesus was dolphins.

790
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,440
So he was like touching the water in the ocean.

791
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:58,840
And I was speechless.

792
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,000
So I started crying there because it was very overwhelming for me.

793
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,360
And in that moment, I knew this wasn't a dream.

794
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,000
This was something else.

795
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,680
And then your customer came down and said, Carlos, are you okay?

796
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:09,680
What happened?

797
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:10,680
It's late.

798
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,440
How in the world do you have this painting right here?

799
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,400
I was two days ago there.

800
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,440
I said, what are you talking about?

801
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:17,440
So I told the story.

802
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:21,520
And then she said, well, three years ago, a friend of my family came here and did this

803
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:26,320
painting and it is so big that the only place that we have is in the basement.

804
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:27,320
And that's what is here.

805
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,840
So she turned the lights on and let me admire everything.

806
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,920
So everything that happened after this, I'm very skeptical.

807
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,160
So I have signs and signs and signs.

808
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:42,880
And I was asking if this was real, I want to see more.

809
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,360
So I'm not making this up.

810
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:45,360
Yeah.

811
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,680
It reaffirmed what happened to you and what you had seen.

812
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,000
You don't have a picture of that painting, do you?

813
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,000
No.

814
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,000
You do it.

815
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:54,000
Wow, darn.

816
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,000
I'd love to post that for people.

817
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,000
If you ever see it, let me know.

818
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,000
Oh, yeah.

819
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,600
And we'll post that sometime.

820
00:36:58,600 --> 00:36:59,600
Okay.

821
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:05,120
I don't want to dwell on being too specific here, but you felt like this was much more

822
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:06,520
than a dream.

823
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:13,640
Did you feel like it was an out of body experience or a really spiritually transformative experience?

824
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,040
It was a spiritual transformative.

825
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,040
Okay.

826
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:18,040
For me, yeah.

827
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:19,040
Yeah.

828
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:20,720
And that's amazing.

829
00:37:20,720 --> 00:37:26,320
Is there any more detail that you didn't fill in what Jesus looked like, anything like that?

830
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:30,720
Well, Jesus was, his face was light coming from his face.

831
00:37:30,720 --> 00:37:34,080
Another thing that I didn't tell you the first time when I told this story to one of my best

832
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:38,320
friends, he said, Carlos, you need to go to a church and tell this story to people.

833
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:39,560
And I said, are you kidding me?

834
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:43,320
I will never tell this story to anyone because who's going to believe that I don't feel

835
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:44,320
same.

836
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,800
You know, there's going to be people like you're telling me, like it's hard for you to

837
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:47,800
believe, right?

838
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:48,800
I believe you.

839
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:49,800
That's why you're asking questions.

840
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:50,800
Okay.

841
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:56,840
So I didn't want to confront people like you or people like Christian fanatics or haters,

842
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,840
you know, there is a lot of haters out there.

843
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,840
And that's why I have enough with my life to tell people what to do with their life,

844
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,400
you know, and that's why I didn't want to get on this.

845
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:09,440
But my friends like Carlos, you know, is worse around the world right now.

846
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,520
There is people dying with cancer.

847
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,320
There is a lot of bad right there.

848
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,680
And people need to hear these stories.

849
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,560
I said, yeah, I know people need to hear the stories, but then they're going to be smart

850
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:20,560
people.

851
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,520
That is what I'm going to take this for real.

852
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:27,160
And I just trying to do a service for people, you know, I said, like, come on and he begged

853
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:28,560
me for like an hour.

854
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,360
I said, okay, I'll go to your house.

855
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,200
He live an hour away from my house.

856
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:36,680
I said, okay, I'll go into your house on Sunday and from there we go to church.

857
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,480
So that's on that I traveled to his house.

858
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,120
I get breakfast with him and his wife.

859
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,200
And then I said, okay, what church do you want to go?

860
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:45,200
I said, like, no, whatever.

861
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,320
It's like, look, Jesus told me that it doesn't matter.

862
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:49,320
Everything is love.

863
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:50,920
So whatever church is coming.

864
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,720
I said, okay, let's Google the first short close to the house.

865
00:38:53,720 --> 00:38:58,160
So the first short that he found was called San Michael the Archangel.

866
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:02,120
So we went to the church and when we arrived to the parking lot, there was hundreds of

867
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:03,120
cars right there.

868
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,560
Everybody was celebrating something.

869
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:09,040
And I asked the lady next to my car, excuse me, what's going on today?

870
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,680
She said, well, today is the inauguration of this big cathedral.

871
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:17,520
We used to have a little church, but they're building, they've been building this for

872
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,520
years and today is the inauguration.

873
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,560
So you guys get on time to see the whole thing.

874
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,200
I said, okay.

875
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:27,720
So after we see the inauguration, I feel like Carlos, what do you speak with the priest?

876
00:39:27,720 --> 00:39:31,240
So you can tell him that you want to tell your son, okay, let me talk to him.

877
00:39:31,240 --> 00:39:33,600
So I'm going, hey, I have a testimony.

878
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,920
I don't know if you can put me there so I can tell the people, say sure.

879
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,720
At the end of the service, you can go and tell this, okay.

880
00:39:39,720 --> 00:39:43,240
So at the end of the service, I went to the stage and I grabbed the microphone for the

881
00:39:43,240 --> 00:39:44,240
first time.

882
00:39:44,240 --> 00:39:45,920
I was super nervous to tell the story.

883
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:51,840
And I started telling my story and half a way of the story, a girl raised her hands

884
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,800
up and says, excuse me, excuse me, I'm sorry, I want to interrupt your story.

885
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:56,800
I said, okay.

886
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,160
It's like, yeah, what are you going to ask me?

887
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,400
It's like, I just want to ask you how Jesus was with you.

888
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,400
And I said, he was behind me.

889
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:07,400
How Jesus was dressing.

890
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,840
He was dressing with a white robe.

891
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:10,840
Okay.

892
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:11,840
What he was doing.

893
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,440
I said, if he was hugging me from behind, why?

894
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,200
And she said, watch this.

895
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:17,600
And I said, what are you going to do?

896
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:21,040
So she grabbed the hair, put the hair in front of her, she had a black long hair.

897
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:26,560
She was a skinny girl and she turned around and in the back of the church, she had a painting.

898
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,280
And this is the painting that she had in the back.

899
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,560
It's called forgiveness by Thomas Blackshire.

900
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:33,800
And she said, it was like this.

901
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:37,120
I said, yep, it was exactly like that.

902
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:38,720
And everybody looked at her and looked at me.

903
00:40:38,720 --> 00:40:41,120
Oh my God, you guys planned this.

904
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:42,600
And I was like, there we go.

905
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:43,760
That's what I'm trying to avoid.

906
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:47,520
You know, I don't live in this area, live an hour away from here and never come to this

907
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:48,520
church.

908
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:49,520
I don't know the girl.

909
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:54,920
So anyways, when the service end, I go back to my house and I Google this image and it

910
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:56,560
called, which is a story.

911
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,160
And guess what is the story?

912
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,560
In the year 1992, this is a fact.

913
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,040
This is not fiction.

914
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:08,280
In the year 1992, a famous painter, painter called Thomas Blackshire, he started doing

915
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:13,720
fasting for two weeks and he started asking God, let me paint the image of Jesus.

916
00:41:13,720 --> 00:41:20,240
For people that is suffering of cancer or they're losing a member of their family or

917
00:41:20,240 --> 00:41:24,320
they're going to financial add down or something really bad.

918
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,640
And they know that Jesus is behind them, hugging them.

919
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,040
You know, they are never alone.

920
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:31,920
So he started doing the fasting.

921
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,200
After the fasting, he started doing the painting.

922
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:38,440
When he was half a way of the painting, he said, the Holy Spirit show up and said, I

923
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:43,600
told us, it's a beautiful painting, but you need to write a book and tell people the

924
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,200
story behind this painting.

925
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:49,720
You need to tell people about what is the meaning of the painting.

926
00:41:49,720 --> 00:41:51,480
So I said, what do you want me to explain?

927
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,960
So the Holy Spirit said, you see the black in the background?

928
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,120
That's the darkness that we all humans have.

929
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,680
That's the haters, that's the nobelievers and all that, you know?

930
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,080
The front of the, this is the illumination that humans have.

931
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,680
This is the love for Jesus and describe everything on the picture.

932
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:12,120
So he wrote a book and his book is laying right here.

933
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,720
It's all forgiveness by Thomas Blackshare.

934
00:42:14,720 --> 00:42:20,480
And in the book, he is playing every part of the painting, trying to people.

935
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:25,480
And at the end, he is playing why humans we need to forgive the people.

936
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:29,720
So little by little, I start receiving all this bread.

937
00:42:29,720 --> 00:42:34,800
Oh, as you know, like, oh my God, this is making real, you know?

938
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:38,120
And after that, I have a lot of experiences.

939
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:43,600
Before I finally say, okay, this is not a war, this is not my imagination, this is happening,

940
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:44,600
you know?

941
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:50,600
I'm writing my third book right now because all the experiences that I have, you know?

942
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,240
Because this was the beginning.

943
00:42:52,240 --> 00:42:53,960
And I guess this is happening to me.

944
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,920
I'm not the only person in the world that this experience happened.

945
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:01,240
There is a lot of people out there that I have experiences live in mind, you know?

946
00:43:01,240 --> 00:43:02,240
Yeah.

947
00:43:02,240 --> 00:43:03,840
So your book is called, Help from Heaven.

948
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:04,840
Yes.

949
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,600
You mentioned you're working on a third.

950
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:07,600
What's the second one?

951
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,320
Well, I'm working in two books right now.

952
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:11,320
Okay.

953
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,560
Help from Heaven is the one that's already published.

954
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,880
People can find it at helpfromheaven.org.

955
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:16,880
Yeah.

956
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,600
I have it in Spanish, a digital, and English.

957
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:20,600
Oh, yeah.

958
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,400
Spanish and English.

959
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:23,880
I have an audiobook too.

960
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,040
It's a one audiobook.

961
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,560
I have candle in English and Spanish too.

962
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:28,560
So they're both.

963
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:29,560
Okay.

964
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:30,960
A couple other quick questions.

965
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:32,680
Tell me about the life review.

966
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:33,920
I think it's interesting.

967
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:39,920
The way you explained it is very, very common that you were put in the shoes of the person

968
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:45,240
that you may have offended in some way and you felt what they were feeling.

969
00:43:45,240 --> 00:43:48,160
What other emotions did that carry with it?

970
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:49,280
Was there guilt?

971
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:50,280
Was there?

972
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:51,280
Tell me more about it.

973
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,480
Well, it was really quick.

974
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:54,480
It wasn't guilt.

975
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,960
What I felt was compassion.

976
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,600
It was love.

977
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:03,880
It was like, oh my God, I never thought that my actions will hurt somebody that way.

978
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:04,880
You know?

979
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:09,080
Like I said to you before, we all humans do that.

980
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,560
Even with our parents or with friends, we go through that.

981
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,200
So that was awakening for me.

982
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:20,080
When I come back to my being again, I start treating people better.

983
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:24,880
And if you ask any person that goes to near-death experiences, you're going to ask in their

984
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:28,080
interviews, people come with more love.

985
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,400
Like me, when I come back, I said, you know what?

986
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:31,400
I don't want to waste more time.

987
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:32,400
I don't want to watch TV.

988
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:33,400
I don't want to watch movies.

989
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:34,400
I need to help.

990
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,320
So the first thing that I did, I started talking with my friends.

991
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,880
Do you know any organization to help some people?

992
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:40,880
To help some people.

993
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,960
And yeah, it's called In Atlanta, Food for Life.

994
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:49,400
It's one of the biggest organizations all over the world to help homeless.

995
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:50,400
So I start doing that.

996
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,480
And I start doing Toys for Tots.

997
00:44:53,480 --> 00:45:01,520
I start going to Mother Teresa house here in Atlanta to help the non-profit organizations

998
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,280
and stuff.

999
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:07,840
And just try to be the best version of myself, the best human being that I can be.

1000
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:08,840
You know?

1001
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:10,720
Yeah, that's awesome.

1002
00:45:10,720 --> 00:45:16,160
So you were sent back with a message, a purpose, a mission, if you will.

1003
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:17,640
That's a lot to live up to.

1004
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,680
Has that been difficult?

1005
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:20,680
It was, okay.

1006
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,000
I was running away from this for five years.

1007
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:24,000
Okay?

1008
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:25,000
I didn't want to do this at all.

1009
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,840
But I've received so many messages, so many stuff.

1010
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:29,920
I have a painting that I can show you.

1011
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,120
I don't know, three or four years into this.

1012
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:33,280
I didn't want to do the book.

1013
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:34,280
I didn't want to do it.

1014
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,160
So I know me, grab somebody else.

1015
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:37,920
I don't want to do this, you know?

1016
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:41,120
I was invited to a party, a birthday party.

1017
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:45,440
And in the birthday party, the guy who was his birthday, he said, Carlos, I want you

1018
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:46,440
to give me my gift.

1019
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:47,440
It's going to be your story.

1020
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,320
I said, no, bro, this is a birthday party.

1021
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:51,320
I don't want to tell my story.

1022
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:52,800
He said, come on, tell it.

1023
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,120
So he'd make a circle with everybody and tell my story.

1024
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:59,800
When I finish, there is a guy with his wife that are crying in a corner.

1025
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,000
And I go there and say, I'm sorry.

1026
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:02,480
I didn't want to make you cry.

1027
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:03,480
This is just my story.

1028
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,480
And the guy said, you know who I am?

1029
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:06,920
I said, no, I don't know who they are.

1030
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:07,920
Who you are?

1031
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:12,320
I said, well, I'm one of the directors of my spiritual retreat and I want you to call

1032
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:13,320
with me.

1033
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:14,320
It's called, am I used?

1034
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,120
Like in the Bible, there is a passage.

1035
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:17,120
It's called, am I used?

1036
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:18,120
Walking with Jesus.

1037
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,600
I said, I said, sir, thank you so much, but I don't have time for this.

1038
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,800
I said, no, no, no, no, you don't understand.

1039
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:29,000
I need you to come with me because these retreats for 50 men, there are guys that are trying

1040
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:34,000
to commit suicide, there are guys that died with cancer, there is people that don't believe,

1041
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:35,000
there are haters.

1042
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:38,000
And I want all these people to hear your story.

1043
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,600
And so like, okay, made the story short.

1044
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,880
I finally go to the retreat for three days.

1045
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:48,360
It's here in Georgia, like two hours away in a mountains that nobody knows.

1046
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,000
I just want to let you know what happened to me.

1047
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:58,160
The last day, the day before it ends, the priest come to me and he handed me a Bible.

1048
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:03,760
I said, put your hands on the top of the Bible and ask God a question that you want to ask,

1049
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,280
anything that you want, ask him.

1050
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:06,760
And he's going to respond.

1051
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,000
I was like, you're right.

1052
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:14,040
I still get to write and I grab my hands and I put it on the Bible.

1053
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:19,880
And this question was done to every of the 50 men that we went there, you know, the guy

1054
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:24,840
who was before me, he asked God, I've been trying to have a baby with my wife for over

1055
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:29,760
10 years, we did all the treatments and we couldn't have the baby.

1056
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,760
That would be amazing if you give us a baby, but I don't understand why.

1057
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,760
I just want to know why we cannot have a baby.

1058
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:41,240
After that guy was my turn and I asked God, if you really want me to write a book about

1059
00:47:41,240 --> 00:47:45,560
this because I have dreamers and I have a lot of signals about the book, I need something

1060
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,560
that I can see that is a book.

1061
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:48,560
Okay.

1062
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:52,800
I need proof that this is not my imagination.

1063
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:57,680
So the priest said, okay, tomorrow you're going to have your ass and I was like, mm-hmm.

1064
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:04,800
So next morning we get breakfast, the 50 men, and then we are taken to a big ballroom on

1065
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:05,800
the ballroom.

1066
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:11,640
There are 50 chairs and the priest said, please get inside of the ballroom and grab any chairs

1067
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:12,640
you want.

1068
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,320
So people sit down anywhere, right?

1069
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,280
On the top of the chair, there is a manila envelope.

1070
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,880
So on the top of the manila envelope, you're going to put the manila envelope on your legs.

1071
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:22,680
So everybody put the manila envelope.

1072
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:28,400
Now the priest said, I want you to grab the manila envelope and start passing it everywhere,

1073
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:32,600
everywhere around you, left, right, back and forth.

1074
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:36,800
So he started counting, one, two, three, so everybody start passing this stuff until he

1075
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:38,480
said stop.

1076
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:43,520
Now I want to let you know, the priest said, that that envelope is not the same envelope

1077
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,600
that you took when you sit down that chair.

1078
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,520
I didn't assign you that chair.

1079
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:50,480
You took that chair.

1080
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,200
So it's not the chair, it's not the envelope.

1081
00:48:53,200 --> 00:49:00,280
Now the answer that is inside of that paperwork, that envelope, is the question that you asked

1082
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:01,680
yesterday.

1083
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:08,920
So now everybody open the envelope and watch the message that is inside of the envelope.

1084
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:16,720
So when I opened the envelope, it was a painting from some kids for elementary school.

1085
00:49:16,720 --> 00:49:23,480
And now the painting is right here, you see Jesus coming out with a book.

1086
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:27,560
And I'll have you send that to me too so that our listeners can take a look at that.

1087
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:33,000
So you can see people from all over the world grabbing the book, God, I mean Jesus coming

1088
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:34,800
out of the book and the Holy Spirit.

1089
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,160
Yeah, and hearts floating all over.

1090
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:41,360
Yeah, so it's leaving hearts all over the world.

1091
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:45,000
So in that moment I said, okay, this is my imagination.

1092
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,200
I asked for a book, the book show up, this is real.

1093
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:55,000
So you know, seeing that like that, I started getting a lot until it was so strong that

1094
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:56,000
I have to write a book.

1095
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:57,720
I said, God, I don't know how to write a book.

1096
00:49:57,720 --> 00:50:01,720
If you put somebody in front of me that know how to write a book, I'll do it.

1097
00:50:01,720 --> 00:50:05,720
Guess what, two weeks later I was invited to a meeting and in the meeting, a guy is

1098
00:50:05,720 --> 00:50:08,720
like, hey, who wants to write a book here?

1099
00:50:08,720 --> 00:50:10,720
I was like, what?

1100
00:50:10,720 --> 00:50:13,200
I send the guy who invited me, this guy right here.

1101
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,920
I was like, no, no, no, no, I said, come on Carlos.

1102
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:21,920
And then that's how my book came out with this publisher.

1103
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,360
And I couldn't believe it, but I did it, you know.

1104
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:30,720
It was hard for me to believe, but little by little everything was coming to a conclusion

1105
00:50:30,720 --> 00:50:34,480
that I did it after five years running away from.

1106
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,880
Like I said up front, feel good story of the week.

1107
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:38,880
Love it Carlos.

1108
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:44,080
I really wrap up here, hey, I really appreciated your message about forgiveness too.

1109
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:47,280
What's one last thing that you'd like to share with everybody?

1110
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:52,840
Look, one thing that I want to share with somebody is a lesson that I learned years

1111
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:53,840
ago.

1112
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:58,600
I did a trip from Atlanta to Los Angeles, California.

1113
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:03,880
I would have friend that I was, she was moving from here from Atlanta and she's a psychologist.

1114
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:07,640
So she told me like, well, we were in the middle of the desert in New Mexico.

1115
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,560
She said, okay, let's practice this.

1116
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:15,120
You might grab your phone and you're going to call a friend that you have like five to

1117
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:18,120
10 years without talking to this friend.

1118
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:23,200
And this friend changed your life, but he don't know or she don't know what she did

1119
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:24,200
to you.

1120
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,480
She give you an advice and she give you something and everything changed, but you never took

1121
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:34,120
the chance to say that to him or call somebody that changed your life, but you never say

1122
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:39,000
anything and in that moment, I called one of my best friend that I have years without

1123
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:44,960
talking to him, moved to another country and I told him everything that he did for me and

1124
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:48,840
everything that changed, how he changed my life and he didn't know.

1125
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:52,960
And we both started crying on the phone, you know, this is the time that you can call your

1126
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:56,720
mom if you don't talk to her, your dad if you don't talk to her, if you fight.

1127
00:51:56,720 --> 00:51:59,920
I said, you know what, I'm sorry, life is too short.

1128
00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:03,720
Let's start talking again, you know, your brother that you don't talk anymore, your

1129
00:52:03,720 --> 00:52:10,880
members of your family, any friend, you know, stop getting the hate inside of you and open

1130
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:16,240
your heart and give a chance to that people again, you know, give one more chance and

1131
00:52:16,240 --> 00:52:19,320
you're going to feel love in your heart.

1132
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:24,120
So when that moment comes that you have to go to heaven, you will see how that feels.

1133
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:30,240
You're going to feel it right now on earth if you do that call to somebody you love.

1134
00:52:30,240 --> 00:52:31,640
Great message.

1135
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:33,960
Thank you very much, Carlos Vivas.

1136
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,280
Thank you so much, Eric, for inviting me to your program.

1137
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,120
Thank you for everybody for hearing my story.

1138
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:42,600
God bless you.

1139
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:44,240
Thank you so much for listening.

1140
00:52:44,240 --> 00:52:50,360
Don't forget to hit the follow or subscribe button and sign up for our newsletter at roundtripteath.com.

1141
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:54,640
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1142
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:59,160
the show, send an email to eric at roundtripteath.com.

1143
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:03,640
Until then, I wish you everything good that you're looking for in this life and the next.

