From the time that they pronounced me deaf was a good 45 minutes.
They cut my clothes and then they paddled my heart, my heart had stopped.
And I could see people screaming and crying, but I didn't realize that was actually my
physical body because I was somewhere else.
The only thing that I could feel, if you could imagine, absolute love and peace, there wasn't
anything else to be felt.
I was greeted by people I'd known in the past.
I'm back home again.
Incredibly safe and felt at home.
Welcome to Round Trip Death, everybody.
And welcome to our special guest today, Carlos Vivas.
Good morning, how are you?
Good morning, Eric.
I'm glad to be here with all of you in your program.
So let's do it.
All right.
Well, thank you.
I'd like our listeners to be able to get to know you just a little bit.
Tell us something about you.
Okay.
Well, my name is Carlos Vivas.
I'm from Caracas, Venezuela.
I moved to the States more than 25 years ago.
I was raised in a Catholic family.
My mom was an interior designer.
My dad used to work with a petroleum company.
And we have a really nice life back home.
Then when my mother died, that's when I moved to Atlanta, Georgia.
Since then, I've just been working.
And just after this experience, my spiritual life has started to grow.
And it's been an amazing life, beautiful life.
That is awesome.
And I know that you do a lot of good out there right now.
And we'll get into some of that later on too.
But I just wanted to give sort of a brief tease to what people are going to hear today
with your story.
This is the feel good story of the week.
People are going to love this.
We often hear stories of kind of horrible, terrifying deaths and, you know, months and
months of recovery, painful and all kinds of things like that.
Yours is absolutely beautiful.
Some people are going to have a hard time believing it because it's so beautiful.
We'll talk about that when we get there anyway with no further ado.
Let's jump right in.
Your near death experience was in 2015, but you had had an experience with a miraculous
recovery earlier in life.
What would you mind telling us about that first?
Sure.
So when I was 14 years old, I was diagnosed with a terminal cancer, was leukemia.
We visit more than 10 doctors and nobody will tell us to my mom, my dad and me what I had
until the last option was to visit this doctor that was a really good doctor on blood.
He's got an amatologist.
And then when we went with him, he took a lot of tests on me.
He run a lot of tests.
And then he came and said, after our first testing, he called my mom and dad and said,
I'm sorry, I have a bad news to give you guys.
Carlos and he looked at me, my mom, my dad were sitting in front of the doctor on his
office.
He said, I'm sorry, but you have three months.
And I was like, three months, three months for what?
So you have three months to leave your terminal.
So my mom started crying.
My dad started crying.
I felt shocked.
But in that moment, for the first time in my life, I heard a voice inside of me that
said that he don't have the last word I had.
I was like, what is that?
Of course, I was raised in the 80s.
And you know, the parents were more strict.
And I didn't want to say anything to my mom because I know she's going to slap me on my
face thinking that I'm making fun of this.
You know, I didn't want to make fun of this.
So I just preferred to didn't say anything and keep quiet.
After my mom cried with the doctor and begging for some relief, something to do with me.
The doctor gave her two options to help me.
So the number one option was traveling to Houston, Texas to do a bone marrow transplant.
And my mother asked the doctor, like, is that good?
Like, what is the probability that he's going to survive?
And the doctor said, well, that's one of the best things that we can do.
You know, it's like 50-50 chance.
And we don't know, but it's the best.
And my mom said, how much is going to cost?
And the doctor said, you have insurance.
And that's the only idea, I have insurance.
And the doctor said, well, you're going to have to sell your car, you're going to have
to sell your cars.
And maybe we can do the surgery.
And my mom said, OK, if I sell everything, will you save my son 100% or the doctor said,
no, I can't tell you that, you know?
And then the doctor looked, wait a minute, I have another option.
The second option is traveling to France and get this formula that I'm working with
another doctors.
It's going to help the bone marrow to start working again.
We don't know.
We're going to be studying right now.
But at least you're doing something.
So my mom said, you know what?
I work at the Air Force.
I can speak with one of my bosses or somebody that's going to France to get this formula.
And that's what she took at the end.
She went to her work.
She spoke with her boss.
They went to France.
They took the formula, brought it.
I start taking the treatment.
And after the first month, I go to the doctor's office.
He grunt at me again.
And he said to my mom, I'm sorry, the formula is not working in your son.
And then my mom started crying again.
The doctor said, look, hold on, let's wait until the whole treatment and it's three months.
So at the end of three months, we go back to the doctor.
And the doctor said, no, it's not working.
It's still not working.
So my mom, we go back home.
My mom feel horrible.
My dad feel horrible.
I feel even worse because I said to God, like, what I have done to deserve this, you know?
I'm just a good kid.
And then one day, my mom was working.
My dad was working.
I was by myself at home.
I went on my knees and I asked God, like, God, if you're really excessive, you're really
here with me and you can hear me, let's do a deal right here.
If you save me with this cancer, I'm going to tell the whole world that you're real because
I'm going to be a living proof that you exist.
And I said, in that moment, I start feeling keto over my body.
And I said, this is it.
And I started making me solicitations.
All these came to my mind, like imagine myself in the future buying a house, getting a good
job, graduating at the university and all these.
So little by little, every day I was giving thanks God, thanks God for my healing.
I was feeling amazing.
And after days after that, the doctors say, okay, what I'm going to do, the final test
is the CT scan.
So we go there.
He did the CT scan.
When I get out of the CT scan, the results came blank.
My cancer disappeared.
So my mom was super happy.
It's like, oh my God, doctor, this is a miracle.
This is a miracle.
And the doctor said, no, ma'am, this is not a miracle.
This is called remission.
Remission is when the cancer disappeared and this come back more aggressive.
I'm like, no, it's a miracle.
And that moment I heard like the voice again inside of me, this will never happen again.
I was like, okay.
And that was it for me on that story.
And remember, I promised to God that I'm going to say this to the whole world, but I was
14 years old.
Who ain't going to be telling this?
You know what cracks me up?
How often do we think we're in a position that we can create some kind of a bargain with
God?
Right?
I'm going to negotiate.
If I do this, well, you do that.
I mean, who do we think we are?
And it doesn't always work.
I don't know.
I have a lot of faith in that moment.
So maybe that helped me.
Absolutely.
I guess on the Bible said, you know, like ask and you shall receive.
And I believe after a lot of experience that I had, we have free will on earth.
So if you don't open your mouth and you don't ask, nothing's going to get done given to
you because it's your life and you decide what's going to happen to you.
If you ask for help as the name of a book, help from heaven, maybe you will receive the
help.
But if you don't say anything, it's like you're taking it with you, you know?
So that's what it lead me to my second story.
You want me to tell you a second story?
Yeah.
Let's go ahead and fast forward now to 2015.
Tell us where you were and what you were doing that particular day.
Okay.
So in 2015, I'm going to tell you a little quick.
I wake up in the morning in my house, I go to the living room.
It was a sunny day Saturday and I, when I turned the TV on, it was the news and the
word going through some guy that entered into a school and he started fighting against
some kids.
So I feel bad in that moment.
And I said, really God, really?
Why these innocent kids have to die, you know?
Like I'm done with this.
So I turn off the TV off and I said, I'm done.
I mean, if you don't explain me right now, why did this is going on?
I don't want to believe in you anymore, you know?
Because this is not fair.
And in that moment, my phone rings, my solar phone.
So I grabbed my phone.
It was one of my best friend Jorge.
I said, Carlos, what are you doing the next week?
It's going to be Memorial Day.
And I said, nothing next week.
And no, I don't have anything planned right now.
I said, okay, because my family is coming to, is going to Panama City Beach.
I said, okay, let's do it.
I go.
So we travel the next week to Panama City and on the way there, a lot of stuff's happening.
Like, we have a lot of traffic and then we have accidents on the way.
The weather was changing.
For me, right now, that was red flags telling me, don't go.
But at the end, listen, red flags, because I wasn't superstitious on stuff.
Right now, after all the experience, like the first red flag, I'm out.
I listen, you know?
After we passed all these red flags, we arrived to Panama City.
We went to the first beach.
It was packed.
Second beach was packed.
Third one was packed.
And I said to my friend, you know what?
Let's go to a park.
It's called San Andres State Park.
And they have a marina there.
We can go to an island called Shell Island.
I don't think people want us to pay to go there.
You know, if they have their whole family, they're going to have to pay for their whole
family.
Anyways, we went to this national park.
We paid $8 to get in there.
We paid $20 to get the boat to go to the island.
When we arrived to the island, the bayside was full.
So my friend, Carlos is full too.
I said, like, no, no, no.
You know what?
Let's go to the back side of the island.
So we walked to the back side of the island.
We were walking.
There was a guy with five kids.
And he asked me because I was walking first, excuse me, sir, where are you going?
What do you think you're going?
So I'm going to the other side.
I said, like, why?
And you see everybody's here because this is the bayside.
It's the most safe place.
I said, yes, sir.
Everybody's back.
I want to hear the ocean.
I want to feel the tranquility of the day.
You know, I said, well, be careful.
So that was another red flag, but I didn't listen to it.
So I went to the other side.
And then my friends and me, we opened a canopy.
There was nobody there.
And we start opening the canopy.
And the wind is blowing.
The canopy opens like a parachute.
And for 45 minutes, we're fighting to put this canopy down.
That was another red flag.
And then after 45 minutes, we find some rocks and put it in every corner.
As soon as we did that, we pulled the chairs, re-installed food, some drinks, some music.
And we stayed up there from 9 a.m. to 4 p.m.
Around 4 p.m., my friends said, Carlos, we're going to walk around the island because the
last boat leave at 5.30.
I said, OK, guys, you'll be here in one hour, around 5, because we need to pick up all these
and go back to get the boat back to Bannasini.
Give me an idea of how big this island is when you talk about walking around the backside.
I believe it could be like 30 minutes.
I think 30 minutes walking in a circle.
So maybe a mile all the way around or something like that.
Yeah, maybe.
I mean, I don't know how big it is, but yeah, maybe a mile.
So it's a pretty small island.
OK.
But you go around the backside.
There's no people.
Then your friends go for a walk.
So you're completely alone on this beach, right?
Yeah.
Great time to jump in the water.
And then it's...
Sorry.
A little sarcasm this morning.
No, no, your fight is true.
Yeah, never swim alone, children.
OK, go ahead.
You're right.
So that was a huge mistake of mine.
What happened was it was getting hot because the sun was very spicy, was very hot.
So I said, I don't know what, I'm just going to jump into the water.
I'm going to swim a little bit.
The ocean was looking good.
Nothing weird was in the water.
So I jump into the water, I start swimming, and out of the sudden, this whirlpool under
the water started taking me in.
So if people watched the movie Finding Nemo, you can see what is an Australian curry.
It's like a tunnel under the water that pulled you out far, far away.
I was caught in this.
I didn't know if the name was Riptide.
So for me, it was a whirlpool.
So it grabbed me and throw me far, far away.
When this stopped, I pulled my head out of the water and I was half a mile away from
the water, like, what, how I get here?
You know, I said, okay, I just need to swim back.
I cannot panic right now.
So let me start swimming.
So I started swimming, swimming, swimming.
And when I pulled my head out of the water, I was far, even farther.
I was like, what?
It was like, I wasn't moving at all.
So let's explain real quick.
For those that haven't spent much time in the ocean.
So a rip current is a place where the current actually comes along the shore and then it
funnels straight out to sea.
And if you're in this rip current, they're just too strong.
You can't, you know, you can be a really strong swimmer head straight for shore and you're
either staying in one place or going backwards, going further out to sea.
Now there is a way around that, but that wasn't something that you knew and it's really easy
to panic.
How far would you say you were offshore?
A couple hundred yards?
I mean, the island was very small from where I was seeing.
So I couldn't believe I was that far.
You know, I heard stories that people go extremely far, but he's in seconds.
He happens super fast, you know.
And yeah, when you see, you just want to go back where you were, you know, so you're trying
to fight.
And me, I never heard in my life about rip ties, so I didn't know where a rip tie was
or what to do.
And I panicked.
You know, I was trying to swim even faster, but the, the whirlpool, it was taking me even
deeper into the ocean.
And after 20, 25 minutes, I was fighting and fighting and fighting.
I started getting completely debilitated and I said, you know what, this is it.
This is perfect.
It's going to be almost 5 p.m.
The last boat leave at 5 30.
Nobody's watching.
Everybody's gone from here.
The last boat is going to leave in 30 minutes out of here until tomorrow.
So yeah, this is it.
So you just resigned yourself.
I'm done.
Yeah, I'm done because I tried.
I can't get to shore.
There's no one here to help me.
I'm done.
Adios.
And in that moment, I said, well, before I die, I just want to say something to God.
So in that moment, I said, God, I never thought in a million years that today's going to be
my last day.
But if you want to take me and ready all before you take me, I just want to say thank you.
I want to say thank you for my mom, my dad, my brothers, my sisters.
Thank you for everything you gave me.
And I'm sorry if I did something wrong.
And in that moment behind me, I heard a voice that said, ask for help.
I was like, what?
I thought, what's my imagination?
I look everywhere.
I didn't see anybody.
I said, oh my God, this is my mind.
And then trying to swim a little bit more.
And then I heard again, ask for help.
And I was like, are you kidding me?
Could you please help me?
What are you doing?
Like you see I'm drowning here.
Nothing.
Just the water and the wind.
I tried to swim back again.
And then I heard, I told you to ask for help.
And I was like, oh my God, that I never going to make it.
Don't you see the distance?
It's too far.
I said, OK, I'll do it.
So I started screaming, help, help, help.
As soon as I started getting help, help, help.
One of my friends that was in the group going around the island, he felt something was wrong.
His name is Enrique.
So he went back to the tent.
He didn't saw me there.
He went to the beach.
He didn't saw me in the beach.
He started walking around looking for me until he saw a hill.
He went to the top of the hill or rocks.
He saw me from the hill.
He started jumping Carlos, Carlos, here.
I'm going to call 911.
Hold on, hold on.
But he didn't call 911.
He went back to the tent.
He grabbed some tubing because he was so nervous.
And he went to the top and he started dropping the tubings.
But like I said, I was, I don't know.
Half a mile away.
And then the tubing was flying back to him.
I was like, oh my God, oh my God.
So he get down off the hill and he run to the other side of the island and he bring
people, 15, 20 people from the other side, from the hill, six guys jump and everybody
was swimming my way.
And when I see that, I say, oh my God, thank you, God.
They're going to save me.
Thank you.
Well, guess what?
10 minutes pass and nobody can reach me because the ocean is taking me.
And then when I see everybody coming like 10 minutes later, everybody starts turning
around.
I was like, what are they doing?
They're going to leave me here.
And then I heard a thunder behind me, room.
And then I look back and the sky was getting dark and a big thunderstorm was coming.
And I said, okay, this is it.
So when everybody turned around and left me and I see this thunderstorm coming, I say,
God, you know what?
I just going to surrender.
I don't want to fight anymore.
You know?
I mean, just do what did you have to do?
And I'm ready, you know?
And in that moment, a huge wave came and crushed me all the way into the ocean.
So when I was under the water, I open my eyes and I see a black shadow coming my way.
So I thought it was a chart.
So I covered my face.
And when I covered my face, this thing grabbed me by my stomach and pushed me all the way
up.
And I was like, what?
So when I get out, I handle this thing that it was huge.
Guess what it was?
It was a huge gray dolphin.
I started crying because I couldn't believe this animal saved my life, you know?
So I grabbed the dolphin by the tail by the thing and just crying there, you know, like
a baby.
And he was just looking at me.
I was looking at him and looking in his eyes and was like, how do you know?
How do you save me?
Like, why do you save me?
You know, like, he was just looking at me.
He didn't move nothing.
He was just floating right there.
10 minutes later, a feature of a boat show up in front of me and he said, son, I can't
save you, but he was like 20, 25 feet away from me.
He said, I cannot get close to you because the wave from the thunderstorms are so big
I'm going to hit you with my boat.
I'm going to throw you a rope and then you grab it and come here.
So I grab it.
I start going to the boat.
The dolphin is still next to me.
And when I get to the boat, I get something like, as soon as I get something there, the
guy says, where are you doing?
Where are you doing?
You need to get in now.
I was like, sorry, can you please let me breathe?
I'm being here for like 30 minutes, 40 minutes.
I'm super tired.
I said, I know you don't understand my body sinking.
I said, your body sinking.
What are you talking about?
I said, yeah, I have a pump and the pump is stopped and all the water from the waves
that are getting inside.
So it's getting further.
I need to hurry up.
Go to the bag and jump in.
You have any questions?
All right.
Slow down a second.
This is going too fast for me.
Okay.
The wave comes, you go underwater.
How far, can you take a guess how far underwater were you when the dolphin came and started
pushing you up?
I really don't know because I mean, I couldn't touch the bottom of the ocean at that point.
I was super far away into the ocean, you know?
And I cannot tell you the metrics.
That's okay.
I was just curious if you had a feel for it.
You know, a big gray dolphin comes and pushes you to the surface.
Now, I think this is spectacular.
And unfortunately, there are a few people that are going to say, oh, come on.
I grew up watching flipper.
That's what happened, but that was make believe.
Did dolphins really do this?
Please explain more.
I want to believe.
I do believe you, but for the skeptics, explain more.
Well, for the skeptic, I cannot do anything.
You know, this is my story.
And I just telling what happened to me.
I'm not the only person that's been saved by dolphins around the world.
If you Google how many people have been saved by dolphins, hundreds of people have been
saving by dolphins through history.
Why they do that?
I don't have the answer for that.
I never spoke with a dolphin.
But they have certain likeness for humans, you know, and they do this in Australia, in
London, I mean, so many places in Cuba.
There's so many stories of dolphins having people that I've never heard this before.
What was happening to me?
I don't know.
You know?
It's so cool and it's amazing.
So the dolphin pushes you to the surface.
And then you're hanging onto it like a flotation kind of thing until the boat comes.
Okay.
That's really cool.
How big would you say this dolphin was?
It was huge.
It was really big.
I don't know the metrics of the dolphin, but it was big.
It was really big.
All right.
So now it's time to get in your rescue boat and the boat is sinking.
Sorry.
This is not funny.
But it's a comedy of errors kind of a thing too.
Okay.
I know.
So I jump into the boat and the guys and I come out and sit down right here.
So I see the water and everyone on the boat and I said, sir, do you have any bucket?
I help you to get the water off the boat.
The water was like this inside of the boat.
So I get scared, you know?
I said, like, we don't have time for that.
We need to get out of here.
Come on, sit down next to me.
So I sit down next to him.
He put a towel over me and she started driving around the island.
So then he asked me, like, are you okay?
What happened to you?
So I said, sir, I just went to swim a little bit and this current came under the water
and drove me all the way here and I couldn't get out.
I said, but you're fine.
He said, yeah, I'm fine.
I said, okay, where is your family and friends?
Everybody's there on the island.
And nobody saw you.
So like, well, they were trying to rescue him, but nobody could, you know?
And then he asked me, let me ask you a question.
Where are you from?
I said, I'm from Atlanta, Georgia.
And he said, I'm from Atlanta, Georgia too.
I said, what part of Atlanta, Georgia?
I'm from Duluth and I said, I'm from North Cross.
Duluth and North Cross is in front of each other.
So we're like neighbors.
I was like, what?
We live in the same area.
And that was all, you know?
And then he started, oh my God, as soon as I said that, he said, oh my God, look behind
you, look behind.
I said, what are you talking about?
And when I looked behind me, the dolphin was jumping and following the boat all the way
around the island.
And when we get to the bay side of the island, the guy said, okay, rather, uh, go to the
bay side of the island, go to the bay side of the island.
And I said, God bless you.
And I said, sir, thank you for saving my life.
I gave her a hug.
I said, okay, I need to fix my boat.
So I need to get out of here very quick.
But you can walk from here because the levels of the water is a little low.
So you can walk all the way to the shore.
So, okay.
So he left me there.
He left.
I started walking to the shore and then something hit my leg.
And when I looked back, the dolphin was weak.
And the dolphin go from there all the way to the shore.
And when I get to the shore, I was completely broken to myself.
I was like, okay, God, this is it for me.
If you save my life with this dolphin right here, it's because you have a purpose for
my life.
I don't know what do you want from me, but I'm going to tell you something from today.
Carlos died into the ocean.
The person who's coming out of the water is going to be you.
I want you to go through me and do anything you want through me, you know.
But it's your life.
I give you my life.
I give you my soul.
And in that moment, it started raining, lightning, and the dolphin live in that moment.
After that happened, people come from the other side of the island.
Everybody started hugging me.
Everybody started crying.
The people, the management, the guys from the boat, take me back to San Andres State
Park.
When we get to the state park, they take me to the administration office.
Everybody asked me, like, what happened?
I said, what happened is like, there was no life savers there.
It wasn't all like a red flag.
I didn't know what a rift I was.
There were no signs that it wasn't a rift I was.
I didn't know what it was.
So if you can do that, put it on that island, that's going to help more people, you know.
And then, well, they apologized and all that.
And then my friends and the people that came from the beach and said, what are we going
to do now?
I was like, let's go to a church.
I said, because this was a miracle.
So I just want to say thank you to God for what he did.
So we drove out of the San Andres State Park.
People come behind and other cars and we see this Catholic church and we stopped there.
Everybody came out of the cars.
We tried to get inside the church.
The church was closed, but outside was a garden with like a little chapel.
And the chapel was like a cave.
The cave was Virgin Mary, Virgin Fatima with the three kids right there.
Everybody said, OK, let's do a circle and let's hug each other and let's pray.
So we prayed for like 10, 20 minutes.
And after that, my friends said, OK, Carlos, what do you want to do now?
I said, I just want to go back to the hotel and get something to go to sleep.
And I said, OK, so take me back to the hotel.
I ate something to the shower.
And as soon as I went to bed, put my head on my pillow and that's what I have in a
pythony.
So for our listeners who know what near-death experiences are, because we talk about them
on here all the time, we haven't had one yet in this story.
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Now, back to the interview.
Yeah, there's several kinds of near-death experience.
It's called near-death because you don't die, you're close to die.
And remember, that's what happened to me.
If that boat doesn't show up, if the dolphin doesn't show up, it's a near-death.
A near-death is a transformative event that changes the course of the person that is involved
on this near-death experience.
So most of the near-deaths happen on hospitals when people get the anesthesia and the anesthesia
go over and the people have out-of-body experience.
But my was completely different.
My was a spiritual transformative near-death experience.
And there's more, and that's what I'm getting at here.
Yes.
Is in some ways the best is yet to come.
Okay, so you're back at the hotel.
After all this, time to go to sleep.
Yes.
Go ahead.
Okay, so I go to my bed, I try to get sleep.
As soon as I put my head on the pillow, I have an epiphany.
So epiphany is like a vision.
I never had one, so I thought it was a dream.
And in this epiphany, I open my eyes and I'm on the third floor of a cruise in the Caribbean.
So I can see the blue ocean, blue skies.
It's a sunny day, it's beautiful.
But at the end of the ocean, I see a tsunami rising coming my way.
And I was like, oh my God, I'm gonna die.
So I cover my face, just waiting for the heat to besten that on me.
And I was like, oh my God, I don't want to die, I don't want to die.
Well, then 15, 20 minutes passed, nothing happened until somebody come behind me and
touched me and said, Carlos, look at me, look at me.
I was like, no, no, no, no, we're about to die.
And he said, you're never gonna die with me.
And I said, like, who are you?
I said, look at me.
So I put my hands down and I look back.
And I see this guy taller than me, like six-five, with a wide row with light coming from his
face.
And he said, please close your eyes.
So in that moment, the way that I saw him, I said, like, this is Jesus.
But I didn't say anything to him, I was thinking this.
So he grabbed me from behind and he hugged me.
And 10 seconds later, he said, open your eyes, please.
And I opened my eyes and he opened his eyes.
And I said, like, welcome.
I said, welcome to work.
Look in front of you.
So I will look in front of me.
I was in heaven.
I was like, oh my God.
That means that I die.
I was like, no, Jesus, you need to take me back.
I need to do a lot of stuff.
You cannot take me right now.
I said, like, you didn't die right now.
You're in the middle right now.
And you make a promise to me.
And you need to fulfill your promise.
Welcome to heaven.
From today, you're part of me and part of all of them.
And when he said all of them, millions of people show up in front of me.
Like, it was like a huge garden, like a golf course, all green.
And these millions of people show up in white robes.
So he said, from today, just start walking with me and walking with them.
I said, OK, do you have any questions?
He said, yes, I have a question.
So what's your question?
I said, like, where all these people come from?
I said, they're coming from all over the world.
I said, OK, do you have another question?
I said, yes.
What is the true religion?
There is so many religions in this world that I always try to find where is the real one.
And he said, the only thing that I can tell you is when you come to heaven, that it's
not a religion in heaven.
What you're going to find in heaven is the love of God.
The love of God is the most powerful towards in the universe.
And that's what it's going to unite the whole humanity in one.
And then in that moment, he put his arms over me.
I said, OK, I'm going to give you a live review as he opened his arms.
And he showed me a lot of the screens and those screens.
I can see my life flashing in front of me.
And what I was watching is every decision I took, everything that I say to people that
hurt people, I was putting in the other side.
So I was putting in the other person's field.
So I could feel all the pain that I caused to people.
And I could feel whatever I did to other people.
So he wasn't judging me.
I was judging myself like, oh my God, I never thought this could hurt so many people.
And after that, and we all do it as humans.
And after that, he said, OK, Carlos, it's time for you to go back.
But before you go back, I want you to give this message to everyone there.
Or I say, what is it?
Well, I want you to tell people that more than 98% of people around the world have childhood
trauma and they need to forgive.
I said, forgive who?
I said, they need to forgive their parents.
Number one, they need to forgive three people.
But the first is their parents.
Why their parents?
Because it doesn't matter if they abandon you, if they hit you, if they like you, if
they abuse you, whatever they did, they did the best for you.
They didn't have a manual to raise you.
Number two, you need to forgive your inner child.
Why your inner child?
Because whatever happened when you was a child is not your fault.
Nobody was there.
You was scared.
And nobody came to rescue you.
And number three, you need to forgive all the people that came to your life to harm you.
Why?
When you forgive your parents, your inner child, and the people that came to your life to harm
you, you're not forgiving them.
You're forgiving yourself.
In that moment, when you forgive, you open your heart and you throw away all the hate,
all the resentment, and all the poisons that later will become cancer and other sicknesses.
And from that moment, it's like you have a balloon with a string and you cut the balloon.
The string and you let the balloon go.
You're free.
And in that moment, it's when Jesus told me, just start leaving your purpose because everybody
came to earth with a purpose.
And what is your purpose?
It's really simple.
It's the only thing that you know.
You do better than anybody else.
Everybody on earth have a gift.
Some people cook amazes, some people don't.
It's amazes, some people that are good with gardening.
Everybody have a gift.
But he said, if you don't want to do that gift, the second gift is called service.
Why service?
Because when you die, you're not taking your money.
You're not taking your titles.
You're not taking your house, your car, your Bitcoin.
The only thing that you're going to take with you is how many people you help on earth?
How many people you take care of?
How many people you give shelter and food?
And what was the blueprint that you left on earth for others to follow you?
Look, Mother Teresa of Calcutta, Mahatma Gandhi, Nelson Mandela, Princess Diana.
Matthew Luther King, they did service and their service continued until today.
Now I ask you, and I ask all the listeners, people that is listening to the program, what
are you doing today to leave a legacy of love, to leave a blueprint on this earth?
So when it's time for you to go to heaven, you know that you left a beautiful gift for
others to follow.
So that's my story, and if you have any questions, let me know.
I have lots of questions.
First of all, when you were asleep, and you had this experience with Jesus, did you feel
like this was a regular dream or something more than that?
It was more than that.
I have more, the day after this was Sunday, after the experience on Monday, I come back
to work.
I didn't think about this experience until the next day that I come back to work.
When I went back to work on Monday, my boss sent me to a customer house.
When I go to this customer house, I used to work as a service manager, as a quality assurance
manager.
So I go to this house and the customer was in the kitchen.
I said, Carlos, one of your employees broke a lamp on my house.
It's on the basement.
I'm really busy right now.
Could you go to the basement, go to the last room and turn the lights, and you will see
a gold lamp on the corner.
If you can buy me a new one or fix that, that's fine.
So I go to the basement, I get to the last room, I turn the lights, and what I see next
to the lamp was a huge painting on the wall.
Out of this painting, it was exactly the same image that I saw in heaven with Jesus.
It was millions of people in the background, Jesus in the middle, in heaven, and at the
bottom of Jesus was dolphins.
So he was like touching the water in the ocean.
And I was speechless.
So I started crying there because it was very overwhelming for me.
And in that moment, I knew this wasn't a dream.
This was something else.
And then your customer came down and said, Carlos, are you okay?
What happened?
It's late.
How in the world do you have this painting right here?
I was two days ago there.
I said, what are you talking about?
So I told the story.
And then she said, well, three years ago, a friend of my family came here and did this
painting and it is so big that the only place that we have is in the basement.
And that's what is here.
So she turned the lights on and let me admire everything.
So everything that happened after this, I'm very skeptical.
So I have signs and signs and signs.
And I was asking if this was real, I want to see more.
So I'm not making this up.
Yeah.
It reaffirmed what happened to you and what you had seen.
You don't have a picture of that painting, do you?
No.
You do it.
Wow, darn.
I'd love to post that for people.
If you ever see it, let me know.
Oh, yeah.
And we'll post that sometime.
Okay.
I don't want to dwell on being too specific here, but you felt like this was much more
than a dream.
Did you feel like it was an out of body experience or a really spiritually transformative experience?
It was a spiritual transformative.
Okay.
For me, yeah.
Yeah.
And that's amazing.
Is there any more detail that you didn't fill in what Jesus looked like, anything like that?
Well, Jesus was, his face was light coming from his face.
Another thing that I didn't tell you the first time when I told this story to one of my best
friends, he said, Carlos, you need to go to a church and tell this story to people.
And I said, are you kidding me?
I will never tell this story to anyone because who's going to believe that I don't feel
same.
You know, there's going to be people like you're telling me, like it's hard for you to
believe, right?
I believe you.
That's why you're asking questions.
Okay.
So I didn't want to confront people like you or people like Christian fanatics or haters,
you know, there is a lot of haters out there.
And that's why I have enough with my life to tell people what to do with their life,
you know, and that's why I didn't want to get on this.
But my friends like Carlos, you know, is worse around the world right now.
There is people dying with cancer.
There is a lot of bad right there.
And people need to hear these stories.
I said, yeah, I know people need to hear the stories, but then they're going to be smart
people.
That is what I'm going to take this for real.
And I just trying to do a service for people, you know, I said, like, come on and he begged
me for like an hour.
I said, okay, I'll go to your house.
He live an hour away from my house.
I said, okay, I'll go into your house on Sunday and from there we go to church.
So that's on that I traveled to his house.
I get breakfast with him and his wife.
And then I said, okay, what church do you want to go?
I said, like, no, whatever.
It's like, look, Jesus told me that it doesn't matter.
Everything is love.
So whatever church is coming.
I said, okay, let's Google the first short close to the house.
So the first short that he found was called San Michael the Archangel.
So we went to the church and when we arrived to the parking lot, there was hundreds of
cars right there.
Everybody was celebrating something.
And I asked the lady next to my car, excuse me, what's going on today?
She said, well, today is the inauguration of this big cathedral.
We used to have a little church, but they're building, they've been building this for
years and today is the inauguration.
So you guys get on time to see the whole thing.
I said, okay.
So after we see the inauguration, I feel like Carlos, what do you speak with the priest?
So you can tell him that you want to tell your son, okay, let me talk to him.
So I'm going, hey, I have a testimony.
I don't know if you can put me there so I can tell the people, say sure.
At the end of the service, you can go and tell this, okay.
So at the end of the service, I went to the stage and I grabbed the microphone for the
first time.
I was super nervous to tell the story.
And I started telling my story and half a way of the story, a girl raised her hands
up and says, excuse me, excuse me, I'm sorry, I want to interrupt your story.
I said, okay.
It's like, yeah, what are you going to ask me?
It's like, I just want to ask you how Jesus was with you.
And I said, he was behind me.
How Jesus was dressing.
He was dressing with a white robe.
Okay.
What he was doing.
I said, if he was hugging me from behind, why?
And she said, watch this.
And I said, what are you going to do?
So she grabbed the hair, put the hair in front of her, she had a black long hair.
She was a skinny girl and she turned around and in the back of the church, she had a painting.
And this is the painting that she had in the back.
It's called forgiveness by Thomas Blackshire.
And she said, it was like this.
I said, yep, it was exactly like that.
And everybody looked at her and looked at me.
Oh my God, you guys planned this.
And I was like, there we go.
That's what I'm trying to avoid.
You know, I don't live in this area, live an hour away from here and never come to this
church.
I don't know the girl.
So anyways, when the service end, I go back to my house and I Google this image and it
called, which is a story.
And guess what is the story?
In the year 1992, this is a fact.
This is not fiction.
In the year 1992, a famous painter, painter called Thomas Blackshire, he started doing
fasting for two weeks and he started asking God, let me paint the image of Jesus.
For people that is suffering of cancer or they're losing a member of their family or
they're going to financial add down or something really bad.
And they know that Jesus is behind them, hugging them.
You know, they are never alone.
So he started doing the fasting.
After the fasting, he started doing the painting.
When he was half a way of the painting, he said, the Holy Spirit show up and said, I
told us, it's a beautiful painting, but you need to write a book and tell people the
story behind this painting.
You need to tell people about what is the meaning of the painting.
So I said, what do you want me to explain?
So the Holy Spirit said, you see the black in the background?
That's the darkness that we all humans have.
That's the haters, that's the nobelievers and all that, you know?
The front of the, this is the illumination that humans have.
This is the love for Jesus and describe everything on the picture.
So he wrote a book and his book is laying right here.
It's all forgiveness by Thomas Blackshare.
And in the book, he is playing every part of the painting, trying to people.
And at the end, he is playing why humans we need to forgive the people.
So little by little, I start receiving all this bread.
Oh, as you know, like, oh my God, this is making real, you know?
And after that, I have a lot of experiences.
Before I finally say, okay, this is not a war, this is not my imagination, this is happening,
you know?
I'm writing my third book right now because all the experiences that I have, you know?
Because this was the beginning.
And I guess this is happening to me.
I'm not the only person in the world that this experience happened.
There is a lot of people out there that I have experiences live in mind, you know?
Yeah.
So your book is called, Help from Heaven.
Yes.
You mentioned you're working on a third.
What's the second one?
Well, I'm working in two books right now.
Okay.
Help from Heaven is the one that's already published.
People can find it at helpfromheaven.org.
Yeah.
I have it in Spanish, a digital, and English.
Oh, yeah.
Spanish and English.
I have an audiobook too.
It's a one audiobook.
I have candle in English and Spanish too.
So they're both.
Okay.
A couple other quick questions.
Tell me about the life review.
I think it's interesting.
The way you explained it is very, very common that you were put in the shoes of the person
that you may have offended in some way and you felt what they were feeling.
What other emotions did that carry with it?
Was there guilt?
Was there?
Tell me more about it.
Well, it was really quick.
It wasn't guilt.
What I felt was compassion.
It was love.
It was like, oh my God, I never thought that my actions will hurt somebody that way.
You know?
Like I said to you before, we all humans do that.
Even with our parents or with friends, we go through that.
So that was awakening for me.
When I come back to my being again, I start treating people better.
And if you ask any person that goes to near-death experiences, you're going to ask in their
interviews, people come with more love.
Like me, when I come back, I said, you know what?
I don't want to waste more time.
I don't want to watch TV.
I don't want to watch movies.
I need to help.
So the first thing that I did, I started talking with my friends.
Do you know any organization to help some people?
To help some people.
And yeah, it's called In Atlanta, Food for Life.
It's one of the biggest organizations all over the world to help homeless.
So I start doing that.
And I start doing Toys for Tots.
I start going to Mother Teresa house here in Atlanta to help the non-profit organizations
and stuff.
And just try to be the best version of myself, the best human being that I can be.
You know?
Yeah, that's awesome.
So you were sent back with a message, a purpose, a mission, if you will.
That's a lot to live up to.
Has that been difficult?
It was, okay.
I was running away from this for five years.
Okay?
I didn't want to do this at all.
But I've received so many messages, so many stuff.
I have a painting that I can show you.
I don't know, three or four years into this.
I didn't want to do the book.
I didn't want to do it.
So I know me, grab somebody else.
I don't want to do this, you know?
I was invited to a party, a birthday party.
And in the birthday party, the guy who was his birthday, he said, Carlos, I want you
to give me my gift.
It's going to be your story.
I said, no, bro, this is a birthday party.
I don't want to tell my story.
He said, come on, tell it.
So he'd make a circle with everybody and tell my story.
When I finish, there is a guy with his wife that are crying in a corner.
And I go there and say, I'm sorry.
I didn't want to make you cry.
This is just my story.
And the guy said, you know who I am?
I said, no, I don't know who they are.
Who you are?
I said, well, I'm one of the directors of my spiritual retreat and I want you to call
with me.
It's called, am I used?
Like in the Bible, there is a passage.
It's called, am I used?
Walking with Jesus.
I said, I said, sir, thank you so much, but I don't have time for this.
I said, no, no, no, no, you don't understand.
I need you to come with me because these retreats for 50 men, there are guys that are trying
to commit suicide, there are guys that died with cancer, there is people that don't believe,
there are haters.
And I want all these people to hear your story.
And so like, okay, made the story short.
I finally go to the retreat for three days.
It's here in Georgia, like two hours away in a mountains that nobody knows.
I just want to let you know what happened to me.
The last day, the day before it ends, the priest come to me and he handed me a Bible.
I said, put your hands on the top of the Bible and ask God a question that you want to ask,
anything that you want, ask him.
And he's going to respond.
I was like, you're right.
I still get to write and I grab my hands and I put it on the Bible.
And this question was done to every of the 50 men that we went there, you know, the guy
who was before me, he asked God, I've been trying to have a baby with my wife for over
10 years, we did all the treatments and we couldn't have the baby.
That would be amazing if you give us a baby, but I don't understand why.
I just want to know why we cannot have a baby.
After that guy was my turn and I asked God, if you really want me to write a book about
this because I have dreamers and I have a lot of signals about the book, I need something
that I can see that is a book.
Okay.
I need proof that this is not my imagination.
So the priest said, okay, tomorrow you're going to have your ass and I was like, mm-hmm.
So next morning we get breakfast, the 50 men, and then we are taken to a big ballroom on
the ballroom.
There are 50 chairs and the priest said, please get inside of the ballroom and grab any chairs
you want.
So people sit down anywhere, right?
On the top of the chair, there is a manila envelope.
So on the top of the manila envelope, you're going to put the manila envelope on your legs.
So everybody put the manila envelope.
Now the priest said, I want you to grab the manila envelope and start passing it everywhere,
everywhere around you, left, right, back and forth.
So he started counting, one, two, three, so everybody start passing this stuff until he
said stop.
Now I want to let you know, the priest said, that that envelope is not the same envelope
that you took when you sit down that chair.
I didn't assign you that chair.
You took that chair.
So it's not the chair, it's not the envelope.
Now the answer that is inside of that paperwork, that envelope, is the question that you asked
yesterday.
So now everybody open the envelope and watch the message that is inside of the envelope.
So when I opened the envelope, it was a painting from some kids for elementary school.
And now the painting is right here, you see Jesus coming out with a book.
And I'll have you send that to me too so that our listeners can take a look at that.
So you can see people from all over the world grabbing the book, God, I mean Jesus coming
out of the book and the Holy Spirit.
Yeah, and hearts floating all over.
Yeah, so it's leaving hearts all over the world.
So in that moment I said, okay, this is my imagination.
I asked for a book, the book show up, this is real.
So you know, seeing that like that, I started getting a lot until it was so strong that
I have to write a book.
I said, God, I don't know how to write a book.
If you put somebody in front of me that know how to write a book, I'll do it.
Guess what, two weeks later I was invited to a meeting and in the meeting, a guy is
like, hey, who wants to write a book here?
I was like, what?
I send the guy who invited me, this guy right here.
I was like, no, no, no, no, I said, come on Carlos.
And then that's how my book came out with this publisher.
And I couldn't believe it, but I did it, you know.
It was hard for me to believe, but little by little everything was coming to a conclusion
that I did it after five years running away from.
Like I said up front, feel good story of the week.
Love it Carlos.
I really wrap up here, hey, I really appreciated your message about forgiveness too.
What's one last thing that you'd like to share with everybody?
Look, one thing that I want to share with somebody is a lesson that I learned years
ago.
I did a trip from Atlanta to Los Angeles, California.
I would have friend that I was, she was moving from here from Atlanta and she's a psychologist.
So she told me like, well, we were in the middle of the desert in New Mexico.
She said, okay, let's practice this.
You might grab your phone and you're going to call a friend that you have like five to
10 years without talking to this friend.
And this friend changed your life, but he don't know or she don't know what she did
to you.
She give you an advice and she give you something and everything changed, but you never took
the chance to say that to him or call somebody that changed your life, but you never say
anything and in that moment, I called one of my best friend that I have years without
talking to him, moved to another country and I told him everything that he did for me and
everything that changed, how he changed my life and he didn't know.
And we both started crying on the phone, you know, this is the time that you can call your
mom if you don't talk to her, your dad if you don't talk to her, if you fight.
I said, you know what, I'm sorry, life is too short.
Let's start talking again, you know, your brother that you don't talk anymore, your
members of your family, any friend, you know, stop getting the hate inside of you and open
your heart and give a chance to that people again, you know, give one more chance and
you're going to feel love in your heart.
So when that moment comes that you have to go to heaven, you will see how that feels.
You're going to feel it right now on earth if you do that call to somebody you love.
Great message.
Thank you very much, Carlos Vivas.
Thank you so much, Eric, for inviting me to your program.
Thank you for everybody for hearing my story.
God bless you.
Thank you so much for listening.
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