1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:08,480 From the time that they pronounced me deaf was a good 45 minutes. 2 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:13,440 They cut my clothes and then they paddled my heart, my heart had stopped. 3 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:18,120 And I could see people screaming and crying, but I didn't realize that was actually my 4 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,320 physical body because I was somewhere else. 5 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:27,400 The only thing that I could feel, if you could imagine, absolute love and peace, there wasn't 6 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,400 anything else to be felt. 7 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,520 I was greeted by people I'd known in the past. 8 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:34,160 I'm back home again. 9 00:00:34,160 --> 00:00:39,240 Incredibly safe and felt at home. 10 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,240 Welcome to Round Trip Death, everybody. 11 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,560 We are going to have, I promise, so much fun today. 12 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:48,200 We've got Megan Brown here with us from Arizona. 13 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:49,640 Good morning, Megan. 14 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:51,160 Good morning, Eric. 15 00:00:51,160 --> 00:00:52,640 Thank you for having me. 16 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,000 You are so welcome. 17 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:59,640 And I say we're going to have fun because in our pre-interview, I kept being surprised 18 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:03,320 and shocked at all the things that came up. 19 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:07,720 And I'm not quite sure how to tease this for people, but I'm going to just, maybe the 20 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:11,240 best tease would be to throw out some names we're going to talk about. 21 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:12,240 Perfect. 22 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:14,120 Can you guess which ones I'm going to go after? 23 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,480 Well, I'm going with Freddie Mercury number one, but I don't know. 24 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:18,480 I don't know. 25 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,840 That's where it starts. 26 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:27,840 Freddie Mercury, Lincoln, Muhammad, Jesus, et cetera, et cetera. 27 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:32,600 This is, anyway, we'll get to all this as we go. 28 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:36,720 And people are wondering, what in the world does Freddie Mercury have to do with a near-death 29 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:37,720 experience? 30 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,560 So there's all the teasers you get for today. 31 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:44,960 Hey, if you don't mind, before we start, tell us just a little bit about you. 32 00:01:44,960 --> 00:01:46,720 What kind of background do you have? 33 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:48,560 Where do you live? 34 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:53,280 Well, my background is I grew up in Southern California. 35 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:58,400 And when I had my son with my now ex-husband, I didn't want to raise him in Southern California 36 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,240 because it was so different than when I was a kid. 37 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:07,280 So we moved to Missouri, of all places, for four and a half years. 38 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,920 And that's where I had my near-death experience. 39 00:02:09,920 --> 00:02:13,960 And then my body couldn't handle that weather there any longer. 40 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,040 So we moved to Sedona, Arizona. 41 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,480 And it's been very nice. 42 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,480 I haven't spent much time in Missouri. 43 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:25,440 I hear it's really hot and really cold. 44 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,040 Is that what the hard part was? 45 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:33,200 Yeah, the humidity with the sheets, it was brutal. 46 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,640 So before my near-death experience, I could handle it. 47 00:02:36,640 --> 00:02:46,840 The ice storms, OK, it was just very different than C.V. Valley, California, and San Clemente. 48 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:48,720 So it was very different. 49 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:54,240 But then after my body went through so much, and kidney failure, and other things, I couldn't 50 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,240 handle the weather change. 51 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,960 So you're in a place with perfect weather all year round now. 52 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:01,960 Yeah. 53 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,840 And it gets cold here, but it's not like there. 54 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:09,080 So I'm so grateful for all the ice. 55 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:10,320 Well good. 56 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:15,040 Let's jump right into what led up to your near-death experience. 57 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,520 So I know these were health problems. 58 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,800 And you can tell us as much or as little as you're comfortable with. 59 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,040 But tell us what was going on. 60 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:28,160 So OK, I'd like to start by saying that I was in great shape. 61 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,320 I worked out three times a week with a private trainer. 62 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,960 I was doing household stuff. 63 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,240 My son was four at the time. 64 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:41,920 And I did everything that needed to be done, cook, laundry, blah, blah, blah. 65 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:42,920 Stay at home, mom. 66 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:48,240 It was really privileged to be a stay-at-home mom, because my then husband, he was on the 67 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,160 road all the time working. 68 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:51,600 How old were you? 69 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,720 When this happened, I was 38. 70 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:54,720 OK. 71 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,120 Yeah. 72 00:03:56,120 --> 00:04:00,760 So everything seemed to be, quote unquote, normal. 73 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:01,760 And I came home. 74 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:05,680 I made dinner, picked up my son from school. 75 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:10,120 My girlfriend and her kids came over, and everything was normal. 76 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,600 I mean, we sat down. 77 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:13,600 We ate. 78 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:14,600 I even drank one beer. 79 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,200 I don't even drink beer, but I drank a beer for some reason. 80 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:18,680 It was funny. 81 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:24,760 Then it just, you know, I put my son to bed later, cleaned the kitchen, did my thing, 82 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:25,760 and went to bed. 83 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:32,120 And as the night went on, my stomach really started to hurt in a way that I'd never felt 84 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:33,640 before. 85 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:37,800 And I called my husband and told him what was happening. 86 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:42,120 There was nothing he could do, you know, except be an ear for me. 87 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,000 And then I tried to do yoga stretches. 88 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:49,680 I tried to do different things to relax my body, but it didn't work. 89 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:57,160 So I just kind of, well, I'll deal with it, you know, and went to sleep and woke up in 90 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,480 excruciating pain. 91 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:05,760 So that pain led to multiple other pains as the day went on, because I drove myself to 92 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:10,240 the hospital, you know, doubled over at the steering wheel. 93 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,960 And I called my girlfriend to come watch my son, because it was the middle of the night. 94 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,720 I couldn't get help. 95 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:21,720 And they thought, oh, you know, just give her whatever it was to take away the pain. 96 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:23,720 I don't even know what it was. 97 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:27,880 And then I had driven myself there, so I couldn't drive home. 98 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,560 And I had to call somebody else to come and get me and take me home. 99 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:36,080 And then that medicine wore off, but there was nothing to back it up. 100 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:37,880 And so the pain was even worse. 101 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,160 And it just, it was awful. 102 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,040 So I finally made it into a hospital. 103 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,200 So they didn't diagnose what was wrong? 104 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,200 No, they couldn't. 105 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:51,000 They just, they didn't take x-rays, they didn't do anything. 106 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,320 Oh wow, just a lady in pain. 107 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:57,760 Okay, keep going, because I know there was something behind it. 108 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:04,080 I went to, I got transferred to another hospital, and it was 52 miles away, because there was 109 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:11,480 no end of, what was it, I can't remember the doctor that I needed at the first hospital. 110 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,000 Gastroenterologists, that's what it was. 111 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:14,760 They didn't have one. 112 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,480 So I got transferred to another hospital. 113 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:25,200 Three or four days of severe, severe pain, I was just excruciating pain. 114 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:30,000 Finally this hospitalist, I kept hitting the nurses button, and they would ignore me. 115 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:36,320 And finally this hospitalist comes in, and he said, you know, what's going on? 116 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:40,600 You know, he was very, just very, felt very cold. 117 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:45,360 And I told him all the details of what was going on, my body and the pains that I was 118 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:46,360 feeling. 119 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:50,200 He finally just looked at me and said, I think you're a drug seeker. 120 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:55,840 And all of a sudden, for the first time I heard, make a scene, make it big, or you won't 121 00:06:55,840 --> 00:06:57,520 make it out. 122 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:01,600 I'm thinking, okay, the doctor didn't just say that to me. 123 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,520 What's going on here? 124 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,760 So my stepson and his wife were sitting there. 125 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:08,760 They didn't say anything. 126 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,400 And they didn't hear what I just heard. 127 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:12,640 So I made a scene. 128 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,240 I thought, well, I'm in a Catholic hospital. 129 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,480 I know exactly what to say. 130 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:17,480 And I did. 131 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:19,600 Because you were raised Catholic, right? 132 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:20,600 I was, yeah. 133 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,960 But you knew how to rock the boat big time. 134 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:23,960 Oh, yes. 135 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:24,960 All right. 136 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:25,960 What did you say? 137 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:32,000 Well, I don't know if I can say it on your show, but we'll bleep it out if we need to. 138 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:33,160 I called the names. 139 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:38,520 I mean, I said, look, mother, I said, you're going to get me a damn help that I need. 140 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:42,200 I said, I am demanding to get, I said, you're fired. 141 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:43,680 You are so fired. 142 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,680 I said, get out. 143 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:46,680 Absolutely get out. 144 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,200 I said, you have no idea who I related to. 145 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:54,320 Oh, I was searching for things to say, but I, this guy's just looking at me. 146 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,200 And I said, my husband played for the president. 147 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:58,680 Now get the f*** out. 148 00:07:58,680 --> 00:07:59,800 You're fired. 149 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,840 And so she's looking at me and he looks at my steps on it. 150 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:09,120 His wife, like, is she telling the truth or is she just delusional, you know? 151 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,640 And they looked at him and shook their head. 152 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:12,760 Yes, it was true. 153 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:13,880 I was telling the truth. 154 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,320 So finally he left. 155 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:22,160 And then this little nurse comes in and she says, I mean, I could have been her mother 156 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,600 because she was fresh out of nursing school. 157 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:29,320 And she says, I'm sorry, ma'am, we can't get you another doctor. 158 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:33,280 And I said, look, you're going to get me another f***ing doctor. 159 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,080 And I said, because I'm going to fire you. 160 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,440 And my body was becoming paralyzed and I could feel it. 161 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,080 I couldn't move my legs. 162 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:43,240 I couldn't, I couldn't do anything. 163 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:49,160 And the only things that I could move at this time were my hands and my head and the upper 164 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,280 chest area just under the shoulders. 165 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,080 And I was trying to express all of this. 166 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:55,480 I was scared. 167 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,040 I was so scared. 168 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:58,240 Oh my gosh. 169 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:05,400 Miraculously, I get another doctor who walked in and this woman scammed me and looked at 170 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:06,400 me. 171 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:10,960 And what the other doctor failed to tell me was that I had bloated 43 pounds of fluid 172 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,240 and it turned gray. 173 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:17,560 So she looked at me and the nurse that I threatened to have fired. 174 00:09:17,560 --> 00:09:22,040 And she said, oh my God, has anybody checked her creatinine level? 175 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:23,120 And the answer was no. 176 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,880 As the nurse was going through the pages, you know, looking through her notes. 177 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:28,440 So I was in kidney failure. 178 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,080 I was in full-blown kidney failure. 179 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,800 I literally was dying because I wasn't on dialysis. 180 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:38,240 I had so many, this had been going on for days now, you know? 181 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:39,480 So it was really bad. 182 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:40,480 Wow. 183 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,080 That is really scary. 184 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:43,080 Yeah. 185 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:49,520 Okay, was there some point where this went beyond that and you had a death experience? 186 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:50,520 Yes. 187 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,520 So, okay, so fast forward now. 188 00:09:53,520 --> 00:10:06,880 I'm being wheeled into dialysis and I was so, it was like, I was in so much pain and 189 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:11,600 they had just figured out, oh my God, she's in kidney failure. 190 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,640 They have to get her up there. 191 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:18,080 I don't even know if they gave me anything yet for pain, but I remember this nurse standing 192 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:23,840 next to me and she looked down at me and said, we need to do a blood transfusion. 193 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:25,920 Do I have your permission to do a blood transfusion? 194 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:30,280 And all I could think of was, what kind of disease am I going to get from it? 195 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,720 You know, is the blood clean? 196 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,400 And she says, I mean, and she said it again a few times. 197 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:41,680 So I heard something sound one say, say yes. 198 00:10:41,680 --> 00:10:44,840 And I was like, who said that? 199 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:46,320 So I said yes. 200 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:51,000 So they had to do blood transfusions on me and then they did the dialysis. 201 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:55,200 But I remember jumping to getting into heaven. 202 00:10:55,200 --> 00:11:04,000 I remember I walked through clouds and I walked through clouds to what looked to be a park 203 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:12,760 and you know, the grass, the trees, the sun, the birds. 204 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:19,240 Before we jump into the detail there, what happened to your body that launched this? 205 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,320 Did you shut down at some point? 206 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:25,560 Yeah, actually 90% of my body had shut down. 207 00:11:25,560 --> 00:11:26,640 Okay. 208 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,400 Were you conscious? 209 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:30,400 In and out. 210 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:38,880 And after I said that to the nurse on the gurney, I do not remember anything until another 211 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,880 moment where heaven had me wake up. 212 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:47,040 And another nurse was working on me in my hospital room because they had to keep doing 213 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:48,480 it consistently. 214 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,920 So they would do dialysis followed by plasma peresis. 215 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:56,520 So this was like a six, seven hour, you know, and if the machine didn't break, it was like 216 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,280 seven hours, you know, it takes a long time. 217 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:04,600 I literally opened my eyes, grabbed this woman's wrist, and I said, you have to get me off 218 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:05,600 this floor. 219 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:06,600 I'm going to die here. 220 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:07,600 That wasn't me. 221 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:11,360 I didn't know, I didn't know where I was. 222 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,000 And she looked at me and I had taken her by surprise, of course. 223 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,720 And she said, well, that's too much paperwork for me. 224 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:22,040 My husband is the head of the sixth floor and that's the sickest unit in this hospital. 225 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,360 I'm going to have you moved. 226 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:29,520 And I was just laid there and I thought, wait, she's going to help me? 227 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:30,680 Oh, fantastic. 228 00:12:30,680 --> 00:12:32,600 So I was out of it again. 229 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:39,680 And then I remember like getting my room and I remember seeing her husband, who was the 230 00:12:39,680 --> 00:12:41,320 head nurse up there. 231 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,760 And then I went into my experience again. 232 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:45,760 Okay. 233 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,040 So, and I'm sorry I interrupted that. 234 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:49,920 You were talking about being at a park. 235 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,560 This was the first part of the experience then. 236 00:12:53,560 --> 00:12:54,560 Okay. 237 00:12:54,560 --> 00:12:55,560 Go on from there. 238 00:12:55,560 --> 00:12:57,480 Tell us what happened there, what you saw. 239 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:58,480 Okay. 240 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,080 So I, you know, I, I see trees. 241 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:07,880 I all of a sudden see this Jesus standing over to the left in front of me. 242 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:11,800 So like he's over to the left under a tree. 243 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:16,120 And I, I looked at him when I go, oh my God, you really do exist. 244 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,120 And he started laughing. 245 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:21,760 And I couldn't believe my eyes. 246 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:25,200 And so, cause this is a guy I thought was a fairy tale. 247 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,520 So you know, he opened up his arms. 248 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,560 He greeted me like, come on over, give me a hug. 249 00:13:31,560 --> 00:13:37,200 So I walked over to him and I gave him a hug and, and then he kind of, he turned to, he 250 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,680 like pulled me to his side and we started walking. 251 00:13:39,680 --> 00:13:42,320 And he said, come on, we have a lot of work to do. 252 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,560 And I said, yeah, no shit, you're dealing with me. 253 00:13:44,560 --> 00:13:46,240 I mean, that's exactly what I said. 254 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:50,040 I just don't say that to everybody, but that's what I said. 255 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:55,520 So we walked and I had to go meet my other guides in a golden capsule. 256 00:13:55,520 --> 00:14:01,680 I remember stepping in a golden capsule and my other guides are Archangel Michael, who 257 00:14:01,680 --> 00:14:02,680 else was there? 258 00:14:02,680 --> 00:14:05,600 Elmoria, Saint Germain and Mother Mary. 259 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:12,040 So we stepped inside the capsule and I had to watch my life review. 260 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,160 And it's like, look, I don't know how they work TVs there. 261 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:21,840 All I can tell you is it's like watching a movie, a movie literally of yourself every 262 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:23,160 second of your life. 263 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:30,400 And you not only feel your emotions, but you feel the other people's emotions in anything 264 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,040 was happening. 265 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:39,480 And you, you were forever changed by this experience because how could you not be? 266 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:45,280 Can you give us an example of one of the things that you saw in the life review? 267 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:49,560 Yes, I remember and I called my grandfather. 268 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,320 He lived a very long time. 269 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:58,920 So I called my grandfather and I said, oh, grandpa, I said, I saw us on the boat, the 270 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:04,320 little sailboat, the sunflower, when we were in Hawaii together because they owned a house 271 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:10,640 in Honolulu on the water and we used to go out fishing. 272 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:16,720 It was this little tiny sailboat that he had, but there was, it was just so much happiness 273 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:21,000 doing that, you know, spending time with them and then being on the water. 274 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:22,240 I loved it. 275 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:26,640 That was one of the moments that I remember seeing and I called him and told him and I 276 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,200 remember, let's see, what else do I remember? 277 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,640 I don't remember a specific moment. 278 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:36,560 I remember some things that were really rough to watch. 279 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:40,040 Like, for instance, I was in a car accident. 280 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:45,560 In 1978, this is my first near-death experience and it was, it was horrific. 281 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:50,920 I mean, I broke both my legs last week and my whole face was like practically, you know, 282 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:55,040 ripped off and my best friend and her mother both died. 283 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:56,200 I was in a body cast. 284 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:57,200 I was all these things. 285 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:05,440 So I had to feel all of this again, if you can imagine, pain, the emotion that went into 286 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:09,040 it, everybody's emotion that was going on around it. 287 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,200 It was, it was horrific. 288 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:17,280 Did you feel in any of those experiences that you were reviewing, did you feel guilt, shame, 289 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:21,440 or was it more of just a, hey, we're just learning from this. 290 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,040 We're feeling it, but we're learning and moving ahead. 291 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:29,120 You know, I don't remember specifically what I felt, but I do know that I felt, I felt 292 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:35,400 all of those things because in any moment in life, whatever it is that you're feeling, 293 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,640 you're going to feel it again, whether that be guilt, whether that be shame, whether that 294 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:43,240 be happiness, whether that be, you know, questioning something. 295 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:49,240 I remember also, Archangel Michael, they would stop the video. 296 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,240 I call it the video of my life or the film of my life. 297 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:58,080 They would stop it because I remember one time I was throwing up, I was so upset by how it 298 00:16:58,080 --> 00:16:59,080 made me feel. 299 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:02,440 I mean, you do have reaction to it, the life review. 300 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:08,280 I remember throwing up and they stopped the video and they waited until I was done. 301 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:14,040 Then I was asked by Archangel Michael, how are you feeling? 302 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:18,680 At first processing that question, it's like, well, can't you see I'm falling apart in front 303 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:19,680 of you? 304 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:26,720 I mean, this is a horrible feeling, but they would, through different life situations that 305 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:33,120 I'd experienced, they would stop it again, the video, and they would ask me, how do you 306 00:17:33,120 --> 00:17:34,800 feel about this? 307 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:36,040 How do you feel about this? 308 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,240 And what are you feeling right now? 309 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:43,920 But finally at the very end, because they showed me future stuff, but I don't remember, 310 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,880 they didn't allow me to remember any of the future stuff. 311 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:51,360 I was asked, how do you feel about this? 312 00:17:51,360 --> 00:17:55,480 And my response was, this too shall pass. 313 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:59,280 And they all looked at me and smiled. 314 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:05,400 And I don't remember if it was Jesus, Archangel Michael, but they said, you've got it. 315 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:06,400 You understand now. 316 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:11,800 So it's like a little mini graduation right there in that moment. 317 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:13,640 Sounds almost like a therapy session. 318 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:18,720 Like, let's go through something and then let's stop and let's let you process it. 319 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:20,840 You know, I am joked about that. 320 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:22,160 Yes, that's what I think. 321 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:23,880 It was, it was heaven's therapy. 322 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:25,400 That's what I call it. 323 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:26,400 Yeah, it's true. 324 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,920 Can I ask you this too? 325 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:33,800 How did you know that Jesus was Jesus and Michael was Michael? 326 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,640 Were there introductions or do you just know? 327 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,360 Jesus, I just knew. 328 00:18:38,360 --> 00:18:43,400 I mean, I looked at him and I thought, but it's weird that you asked that. 329 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:49,920 Because, you know, I was talking to my friend last night and who'd asked me like, how do 330 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:55,480 you know that, you know, these aren't all aliens and presenting themselves in a way 331 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:59,480 that they come across as a certain character? 332 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:04,480 You know, I was thinking about it last night after we got off the phone and I thought, 333 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:09,840 well, that's an interesting question because technically heaven is like the bar scene in 334 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:15,040 Star Wars, so that would make us all aliens because it does look like the bar scene in 335 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:16,040 Star Wars. 336 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,840 And I even told my dad last night and my dad said, well, I thought everybody was nice. 337 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:19,840 I said, they are nice. 338 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:25,920 I said, everybody's, you know, in a loving feeling, you're in a loving atmosphere. 339 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,040 You can't feel anything but love. 340 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:34,080 I mean, you can, but it's a very protected area. 341 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:35,480 It's so serene. 342 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,800 It's so incredibly magical. 343 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:42,840 And as God said to me in heaven, he said, love is magic. 344 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:43,840 Magic is love. 345 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,640 So, what was your answer about the alien thing? 346 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:51,560 Oh, so my answer about the alien thing, gosh, what did I say to him? 347 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:52,880 I didn't even remember what I said to him. 348 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:58,640 It was kind of like, well, okay, you know, I mean, and, and so I'm telling you, yeah, 349 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:02,040 I mean, I can see why somebody would think that. 350 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:06,800 But really, I had, I told, well, I did tell him, I said, I had no expectations of what 351 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,320 any of these souls would look like in heaven. 352 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:15,680 So how would they present themselves to me a certain way, unless, unless it was just 353 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,240 like Catholic upbringing? 354 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:22,440 I mean, I don't know, but I didn't get into all of these people that are now in heaven 355 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:23,440 that I saw. 356 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,960 I didn't, I didn't connect with Mother Mary. 357 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,760 I didn't connect with Jesus, obviously. 358 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:32,800 I mean, I was told to, you know, that's how I was raised. 359 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,680 But I had so many questions. 360 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:40,440 I remember as a kid, like, well, I can't, well, you're telling me that this is real, 361 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,960 but that doesn't make it real, you know? 362 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:49,600 So I always said in the back of my mind, you know, I have to see it to believe it. 363 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,760 Well, I saw it. 364 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:52,760 Now I believe it. 365 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:54,000 I love that. 366 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,000 Okay. 367 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:56,800 You saw lots of other beings. 368 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:01,280 Were they during this same experience or were you sort of in and out of consciousness? 369 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,840 And this was a series of events. 370 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,360 Oh, this was no during the same experience. 371 00:21:07,360 --> 00:21:08,360 Okay. 372 00:21:08,360 --> 00:21:10,240 Well, go ahead and keep going. 373 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:11,240 Okay. 374 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:19,360 So after my life review, then I had to go with Archangel Michael in his golden capsule. 375 00:21:19,360 --> 00:21:21,040 And I knelt down. 376 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,480 I mean, he told me first, what was it? 377 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:30,160 First, I think the cherubs came in first because I didn't, I wasn't wearing anything. 378 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:36,720 And they had to dress me in this white, I call it a toga because it's all I can think 379 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:42,640 of were togas and a stole that went over, that went over me. 380 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:50,960 And on the bottom right on my hip was the emblem of earth with seven flames coming out of it, 381 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,040 indicating that I was a visitor from earth. 382 00:21:54,040 --> 00:22:00,680 Then I had to kneel down before Archangel Michael and he said Psalm 91. 383 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:07,440 And as he said, Psalm 91, he had his right sheen directed at my soul, which soul is right 384 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,840 between your breastbone. 385 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,800 This white flame came out of his hand. 386 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,400 It was really amazing. 387 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,640 I felt so loved. 388 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,680 I felt so accepted. 389 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:23,960 And I felt so bad that I had said all of these horrible things in my head. 390 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:29,560 If there's a God, well, you know, give him and then it's real and this is all bullshit. 391 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:33,480 I mean, I mean, I really did think all those things. 392 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,560 And so when he was done with that, I was, I started to cry. 393 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,640 And I had my head down and I was looking down. 394 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:44,080 I put my hands up to my face and he's like, Megan, why are you crying? 395 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:45,520 And I said, because I've been horrible. 396 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:46,600 He mean to all of you. 397 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,680 I've said horrible things about you. 398 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,840 And I didn't believe in any of you. 399 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,160 And I thought this was all shit. 400 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:56,640 But I said it to him and, you know, and he said, Megan, I'm here to love you. 401 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,920 I'm not here to judge you. 402 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:03,440 I thought, oh my God, now that Catholic guilt really kicked into that moment. 403 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:04,520 I gotta tell you. 404 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:11,560 So I just felt completely changed in that moment, completely changed. 405 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:15,520 So he said to me, come on, there's a lot of people waiting to meet you. 406 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,720 And I thought, what? 407 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:21,640 And I looked at my head, there are people waiting to see me, you know? 408 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,400 And he said, yeah, let's go. 409 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,520 So we stepped outside of his capsule. 410 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:30,560 Then there was Jesus, Mother Mary, El Moria and Saint Jireen and all of us walked. 411 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:37,000 And we had to go over, we had to go over what was like a little bridge. 412 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:41,480 Anyway, then there was a huge white temple. 413 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:45,880 It was beautiful with two small decks that came out. 414 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,440 The door was huge to get in. 415 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:52,280 And then there was a deck on either side of the door up high. 416 00:23:52,280 --> 00:24:00,800 And there were golden cherubs playing the trumpet and announcing this was to announce 417 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,840 that I was arriving with what I was arriving with. 418 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,800 And I don't remember who opened the door. 419 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:17,040 We walked in and as soon as I walked in, all I could feel was it was like getting shit 420 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:21,720 with a wave of love that never stopped. 421 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,080 It continued to hit you. 422 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,600 It continued to fill your entire being. 423 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:30,320 All I was breathing was love. 424 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:37,480 All I could feel was love and excitement from everyone sitting there. 425 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:41,440 And it was funny because so Jesus comes up, pulls out this chair. 426 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:42,880 It's like I floated to my chair. 427 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:47,040 I don't even remember walking, you know, but I was walking. 428 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:48,120 I just don't remember. 429 00:24:48,120 --> 00:24:50,320 I was nervous. 430 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:56,320 I was not feeling like, oh, I'm worthy enough to be here because I didn't believe in any 431 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:57,320 of these people. 432 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:05,440 You know, I mean, here I am going in as an atheist thinking, oh my God, they do exist. 433 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:06,440 This is love. 434 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:07,760 I don't know what to do. 435 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,080 I wear a wave and begin. 436 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,360 So Jesus pulled out my chair and he's sitting to my left. 437 00:25:12,360 --> 00:25:14,600 Archangel Michael's sitting to my right. 438 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:19,080 To Jesus's left is this old man sitting at the table and he starts talking and everybody's 439 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:20,080 listening. 440 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,400 And I thought, who is this guy? 441 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,920 You know, he's talking. 442 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:30,640 And then he said, within the first few minutes of me sitting there, he said, and Megan will 443 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,640 be going back to earth. 444 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:40,160 He announced to everybody this and in my mind, in my mind only, I did not say this out loud. 445 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:45,240 I thought, oh, he stopped talking. 446 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:50,760 He looked directly at me and he said, is right, Megan. 447 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,760 And I thought to myself, oh my God, you are God. 448 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:59,000 I remember in Catholic school, Catholicism, God can hear all your thoughts. 449 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,000 God can hear. 450 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:04,720 And then I was like, oh, God, I'm so sorry. 451 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,200 Please forgive me. 452 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:12,960 God, and he watched me feel, you know, foamable through my mini conversation there. 453 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,640 But I mentioned sincerely that I was sorry. 454 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,600 I was very apologetic. 455 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,200 And he said, I forgive you. 456 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:23,960 He said, it's a man made word. 457 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,600 I don't get upset with that. 458 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,720 And she said, but be careful what you think of and what you wish for. 459 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,240 I hear all of those. 460 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:38,640 And then I sat there and everybody at the table was watching me. 461 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:44,560 So now I realize, OK, who's conducting this interview and this whole, you know, conference 462 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,840 here is God himself. 463 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,040 I'm looking around. 464 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:49,880 Everybody's staring at me. 465 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:54,120 And then I'm recognizing some souls that I'd seen your pictures on earth. 466 00:26:54,120 --> 00:26:57,640 I was just going to ask, because you're saying everyone, give me an idea. 467 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,720 Do you have an idea of how many people beings were there? 468 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,520 Yeah, there were 77 of us in total. 469 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,360 Oh, you know exactly. 470 00:27:05,360 --> 00:27:06,680 I know exactly. 471 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,200 But I don't remember every single person. 472 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:10,800 I remember seeing Kali. 473 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,080 I remember Parmenon, Siyog Nanda. 474 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:14,600 I remember Mahatma Gandhi. 475 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,400 I remember Kwan Yen. 476 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,280 I remember Prophet Muhammad. 477 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,000 I remember Jesus, Archangel Michael, Archangel Raphael. 478 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,760 There were 27 archangels. 479 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,400 There was Goddess sitting bull, White Eagle. 480 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:31,480 I remember Chan saying, I don't know if I said it already, but I remember Shiva, Ganesh 481 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:32,480 was there. 482 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:37,640 I remember all of these souls sitting there because I recognized some of them. 483 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:38,640 Some of them. 484 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,400 I did not recognize, but I learned about them. 485 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,320 You know, like who knew that there were 27 archangels? 486 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:44,320 There really aren't. 487 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:45,320 There's 1000. 488 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:51,400 But in the upbringing that I came up from, I think there were, I mean, I just remember 489 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,840 Archangel Michael and Archangel Raphael and Archangel Gabriel. 490 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:59,960 I don't remember the other ones, but I think there were only like six or seven in the Catholic 491 00:27:59,960 --> 00:28:02,760 Church that they recognized. 492 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:08,040 So okay, awkward moment here, right? 493 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:14,600 After what you said to God and you were forgiven, you mentioned earlier about this wave of love. 494 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,680 Are you still feeling that? 495 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:17,680 On earth now. 496 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,640 No, I mean in this meeting that you're at around the table. 497 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:28,280 Are you still feeling nothing but love or are you feeling criticism and judgment? 498 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:32,280 Absolutely zero criticism, zero judgment. 499 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,600 I only felt luck the entire time. 500 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:36,640 Okay. 501 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,240 He tells you, Megan's going to be going back. 502 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,640 What happened next? 503 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:47,680 Then he went on to talk and inform people of what was happening. 504 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:54,920 And I don't remember verbatim what he said, but it was very important and everybody had 505 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,120 to pay attention and listen. 506 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:03,120 And then at one point, oh my gosh, I just remember this. 507 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:07,560 He, okay, so God, I forgot about this. 508 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:14,320 Megan pointed up to the ceiling and all of a sudden the ceiling of, it was a dome in 509 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:20,360 temple, okay, and temple by temple, I mean like Jewish temple, okay. 510 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:25,040 So there was a dome that the top opened. 511 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:32,040 He opened it up with his hand and then he said, do you see all of the stars out there? 512 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,280 And he went on talking about the galaxy. 513 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:39,600 I don't remember what else he said in that, but I remember looking up at the stars and 514 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:44,360 him talking to me about the stars and how important they were and how important the 515 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:49,480 galaxy was and how everybody was working together. 516 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,040 But I don't remember any more than that. 517 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,120 I can't believe I just remembered that. 518 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:54,120 It's okay. 519 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,720 These memories often come back a piece at a time. 520 00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,880 So I'm happy for you that you remember that. 521 00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:01,120 That sounds amazing. 522 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:02,120 Yeah. 523 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:03,320 It was really cool. 524 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:11,560 But then I also remember, so after, I think it was after he opened up the ceiling or roof 525 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,560 or whatever of the dome, I had to get up. 526 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,720 I was instructed to get up and walk around the table. 527 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:25,840 And every time I walked, I had to go to one soul at a time. 528 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,120 Each one of them had messages for me. 529 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,360 And no, I do not remember every message. 530 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:38,440 But I remember when I met Goddess, she sits directly across from God at the table. 531 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,680 I didn't know about a Goddess. 532 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,760 I wasn't talking about Goddess. 533 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,240 You hear about it from all this woo-woo stuff, right? 534 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:49,840 Here I am talking about that, working and living in Sedona. 535 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,520 But I mean, seriously, I think it's women. 536 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,920 I think it's funny because, okay, this is how I used to think. 537 00:30:55,920 --> 00:31:00,960 I should say I used to think it was women who were feeling unrecognized. 538 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,560 How come God is a male? 539 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,640 How do we not know it's a Goddess? 540 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,840 How is it that we know God is male and not a female? 541 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,920 Well, the truth is that there's God and there's Goddess. 542 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,400 So I met them both. 543 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,960 But when I got to Goddess, I don't remember if this was the first time that I went around 544 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,000 the table or I have no idea. 545 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:23,040 But I remember standing there in front of her and she was wearing this crown, a very delicate 546 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:30,940 gold crown that had huge, 13 huge chunks of amethyst in it. 547 00:31:30,940 --> 00:31:36,520 And it came up to a point at the top of the crown and went around her head. 548 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,960 Oh my gosh. 549 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,160 She was absolutely beautiful. 550 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,520 She was absolutely beautiful. 551 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:49,800 And I thought, who am I standing before? 552 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,840 Goddess, you know? 553 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:57,360 But she looked at me and she said, Megan, it's okay to be yourself. 554 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,440 It's okay to be yourself. 555 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,680 I'd never heard that before, not even on earth. 556 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,920 I didn't hear that before. 557 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,680 I never heard it was okay to be myself. 558 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,320 So it was obviously a message that I needed. 559 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,320 I'm revered grateful for that. 560 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:13,320 Okay. 561 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:14,320 I have a question. 562 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:18,840 Tell me if you have any thoughts on this based on that experience. 563 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:26,520 If God, who was sitting next to Jesus, if Jesus is the Son of God, is there a relationship 564 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,960 with Him and what you're calling Goddess? 565 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,520 A relationship. 566 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:38,920 In other words, is she the mother of Jesus or just God being the father of Jesus? 567 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,320 Is there a relationship between God and Goddess? 568 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,520 Well, yes. 569 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:54,400 However, Jesus is not who I was taught as being, quote unquote, the Son of God. 570 00:32:54,400 --> 00:33:02,000 It's interesting because Jesus, okay, now in all fairness, I should say, Jesus is the 571 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:06,800 Son of God, but so are you. 572 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,880 So are my brothers. 573 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,960 So is every male on this planet. 574 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:18,120 Every female on this planet is the daughter of God. 575 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:25,880 And I say this with absolute sincerity and respect to everybody that, look, it's not 576 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,000 just one. 577 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:37,520 Prophet Muhammad came here as a Son of God, as a messenger, as a prophet, just like Jesus. 578 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:43,040 So why is he not being revered by everybody? 579 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,000 He should be, just as Jesus should be. 580 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:51,600 So this is my opinion, of course, after what I've experienced, and I understand that. 581 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:58,520 But this is one of the reasons that I believe I've been sent back here is to start talking 582 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:05,160 about my experience there and my feelings of what it really meant to see these souls 583 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,000 in front of me, none of which I believed it. 584 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,160 And I didn't know anything about Prophet Muhammad. 585 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,520 I knew nothing, absolutely nothing. 586 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:21,000 If you don't mind, I want to jump back into this experience you had with Goddess. 587 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:28,920 If we are sons and daughters of God, what does that relationship make us with her? 588 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,680 Are we sons and daughters of her also? 589 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,160 I don't know how to answer that. 590 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:35,160 Honestly, I don't. 591 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,400 I mean, I can just speculate with you. 592 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:39,400 Sure. 593 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,720 That's what much of what we're doing here. 594 00:34:41,720 --> 00:34:47,120 Okay, my other question about her, because this doesn't come up very often. 595 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,680 So I've got questions if you know, and if you don't, that's fine. 596 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:54,000 Did you get a feeling for what her role is? 597 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,120 Oh, interesting. 598 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,440 I did get a feeling. 599 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,960 I definitely got who was in charge. 600 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,280 It was the male. 601 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:03,280 It was God. 602 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:04,520 He was in charge. 603 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:16,720 However, God was more intense in a, okay, but he was also very soft and gentle and approachable. 604 00:35:16,720 --> 00:35:20,920 These are all the things that I felt with him, but I was very nervous, okay? 605 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:29,560 Because here I am standing before him, sitting before him, and having conversations with 606 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:30,560 him. 607 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:36,240 I had obviously disrespected him and God saying, God damn it, Jesus Christ. 608 00:35:36,240 --> 00:35:42,760 All of these things, as a human, before I get there, but Goddess, I was not intimidated 609 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:43,760 by. 610 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:48,760 I didn't feel that like, oh, you're Goddess. 611 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:49,880 I didn't feel that. 612 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:58,120 I felt a motherly, I did feel motherly role with her, where she was very embracing with 613 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:04,640 her energy and very embracing with her words and the way in which she spoke to me. 614 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:11,360 Felt very soft and gentle, felt very loving, understanding. 615 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,840 It was beautiful. 616 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,480 You remember what message she had for you? 617 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,640 I just remember that first one very clearly. 618 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,200 Just that it's okay to be yourself. 619 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:23,960 Yeah, be yourself. 620 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:24,960 Okay. 621 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:30,960 All right, we teased earlier Freddie Mercury and some other names. 622 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:31,960 How did those come up? 623 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:33,960 Are these other people that you met? 624 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,960 Yes, I did. 625 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,880 Were they in this meeting or did you meet them somewhere else? 626 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:46,040 Oh, well, Freddie Mercury wasn't there, but Prophet Muhammad was there. 627 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,680 But yeah, we can fast forward into heaven. 628 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,320 Well I don't want to go too fast. 629 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:55,520 Is there more to tell about this experience in this meeting? 630 00:36:55,520 --> 00:37:02,920 Okay, so Goddess was sitting at the opposite end of the table from God and then immediately 631 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:08,160 to her right was Sitting Bull and immediately to his right was White Eagle. 632 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:12,960 Now, I don't remember what Sitting Bull said to me unless I wrote it down somewhere years 633 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:18,720 ago in my notes and I've kind of lost those in my divorce, but some of them I still have. 634 00:37:18,720 --> 00:37:24,840 I don't remember what he said, but I remember looking at White Eagle and White Eagle, my 635 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:32,000 grandmother, my Catholic grandmother, when I was 14 or 15 had given me this little book 636 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:36,080 called The Quiet Mind and it was written by White Eagle. 637 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:42,440 The reason that she gave it to me was because my mother decided when I was 11 or 12 years 638 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:46,200 old to start following Charan Singh, who was from India. 639 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:52,000 He was Hindu and she would go to these things called Sot songs. 640 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,280 And you know, I went to some. 641 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,080 It was very different than the Catholic Church. 642 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,600 I mean, it was night and day different. 643 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:04,520 Here I am thinking, I know of your name because of my grandmother. 644 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:10,880 She looked at me and he said, Megan, he said, when you come across a white feather, I want 645 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:16,120 you to ask yourself, are you doing or are you being? 646 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,560 And as I'm standing there looking at him, I got really nervous. 647 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:23,320 I got anxious because I thought, oh my gosh, he wants an answer. 648 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,280 And this is what was going through my mind and my feelings. 649 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,280 And I thought, she wants an answer. 650 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,360 I hope I can give her an answer. 651 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:35,480 And he stops me and he said, you don't have to answer me. 652 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,960 I just want you to think of it. 653 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:43,080 I have never forgotten him saying that to me since the moment he said it to me. 654 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:44,080 So it's beautiful. 655 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,480 Absolutely beautiful, such a great message. 656 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:55,840 Then I remember this one time around the table where I was standing next to God and everybody 657 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:56,840 would see it. 658 00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:03,560 When I'd go up to them, they'd all give me time to talk and answer their question or 659 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,680 listen to their question to me. 660 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,000 It was beautiful. 661 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,680 But I looked at God and I'm standing next to him. 662 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:18,080 He said, Megan, he said, I want you to think of yourself as the driver of your car. 663 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,680 He said, you're driving a car and I'm your passenger. 664 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:25,200 He said, you're going to come to a fork in the road. 665 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:26,560 Which way are you going to go? 666 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,080 To the left or to the right? 667 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,840 And I just stood there and looking at her. 668 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,000 And he said, it doesn't matter which way you go. 669 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:40,520 He said, I'm always going to be the passenger in your car. 670 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:46,560 I thought, wow, wow, okay, wow. 671 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:47,960 Because that was a fork in the road. 672 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,920 I mean, being in head of this fork of road, right? 673 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:55,040 Clearly you're going to make a beeline to that path. 674 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:56,160 I did anyway. 675 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,360 And anybody who I've ever met, and I've met quite a few people who've had near death 676 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:04,000 experiences, it changes you drastically. 677 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:09,840 And after she said that to me, I remember looking at him absolutely respectfully. 678 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:14,280 And I said, can I touch your face? 679 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,600 And he said, yes. 680 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,760 And I thought, oh, wow. 681 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:27,360 So I reached out my right hand and I gently touched the left side of his cheek. 682 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:31,200 I just wanted to touch his face, like with the back of my fingers, just gently laid my 683 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:32,920 fingers on his cheek. 684 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:37,240 It was so powerful to have done something like that. 685 00:40:37,240 --> 00:40:43,640 I was so grateful, and after I removed my hand, I looked at him and I smiled. 686 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:48,120 And I said, now I can tell everybody that I've touched the face of God. 687 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:53,920 And he smiled at me, you know, as if, great, and I hope you do. 688 00:40:53,920 --> 00:41:00,880 It was that invitation to just share what I wanted to about God with everybody and everybody 689 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:02,680 else who is at his table. 690 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,440 So that was really neat. 691 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:09,480 And remember, you know, after I got out of the hospital, and I'll get back to that in 692 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:15,640 a second, but there's this song by Al Jarreau that I grew up listening to called Lornan. 693 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:21,760 And if you listen to that song, there's a point where he says, and I touched the face 694 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,520 of God. 695 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,640 I believe that's the exact line, maybe not. 696 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,400 But anyway, it would bring tears to my eyes. 697 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,800 After my near-death experience, I would all of a sudden hear that song. 698 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,320 And then I'd start playing it for myself. 699 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,480 Because I thought, oh, no, I need to hear that again. 700 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,040 That's such a beautiful line. 701 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:38,600 It was so true. 702 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:45,600 So back into heaven, into temple, I remember there was another point where I was standing 703 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,480 in front of this huge wooden door. 704 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:56,800 And I described it to my friend yesterday as being like, you know, a castle door, in 705 00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:02,400 a sense where it was so huge, like 10, 12 feet tall, you know, but thick, thick wood 706 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:08,200 with big, you know, bolts in it or whatever, in a huge handle. 707 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:14,200 And that wooden door indicated to me somehow I knew. 708 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:19,880 Because as I stood before it, I said to God and everybody else, I said, you mean to tell 709 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:24,680 me, as I looked at the door, I said, you mean to tell me, if I walk through that door, I 710 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,000 can go into heaven and I don't have to go back to earth. 711 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:35,280 And everybody, it was just, yes, everybody. 712 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:39,320 It was unanimous, simultaneously, yes. 713 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,600 And then I touched the door. 714 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:45,120 I remember I touched the door and I looked back at everybody and I said, oh, well, now 715 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:46,480 my Catholic guilt's kicking in. 716 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,320 I said, there's no way I can go through that door. 717 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,280 After everything that you've all shared with me, I said, it would just be a waste here. 718 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,720 You know, I started jolting with the male, started laughing. 719 00:42:53,720 --> 00:42:57,920 You know, I'm not funny, but in heaven, I was hilarious for a minute, you know? 720 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:07,360 So I didn't go through the door, but then I don't remember at what point they brought 721 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,960 me into heaven as a visitor. 722 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:17,880 So I visited heaven and I remember a few things that happened while I was in there. 723 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,040 What's beyond the doorway into heaven? 724 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:24,080 That's where we'll pick up Megan's journey in part two of our discussion available later 725 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:25,580 this week. 726 00:43:25,580 --> 00:43:30,280 Until then, I wish you everything that you're looking for in this life and the next.