1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:08,480 From the time that they pronounced me deaf was a good 45 minutes. 2 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:13,440 They cut my clothes and then they paddled my heart, my heart had stopped. 3 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:18,120 And I could see people screaming and crying, but I didn't realize that was actually my 4 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,320 physical body because I was somewhere else. 5 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:27,400 The only thing that I could feel, if you could imagine, absolute love and peace, there wasn't 6 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,400 anything else to be felt. 7 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,520 I was greeted by people I'd known in the past. 8 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:34,160 I'm back home again. 9 00:00:34,160 --> 00:00:36,960 Incredibly safe and felt at home. 10 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:43,000 Just one quick note before we get started with today's interview. 11 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,120 This month we're asking a quick favor. 12 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,800 Please take just a second to hit the follow button and give us a review. 13 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,560 It doesn't have to be anything long, just a sentence or two. 14 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:53,120 We really appreciate it. 15 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:54,520 Thank you in advance. 16 00:00:54,520 --> 00:01:02,960 Welcome to RoundtripDeath, everybody, and welcome to our special guest today, Brian 17 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:03,960 Jordan. 18 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:04,960 Brian, good morning. 19 00:01:04,960 --> 00:01:05,960 Good morning, sir. 20 00:01:05,960 --> 00:01:06,960 How are you? 21 00:01:06,960 --> 00:01:07,960 I'm great. 22 00:01:07,960 --> 00:01:10,520 It's good to talk to you. 23 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:14,520 More in person today than we have in the past. 24 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:19,600 And I just want to let our listeners know there's going to be some special things we're 25 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:25,800 going to talk about today, including your description of the love that you felt on the 26 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:27,600 other side. 27 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,560 It's a description that I've never heard before and I loved it. 28 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:36,200 So everybody keep listening and we'll find out what that is in a few minutes. 29 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,760 Anyway, Brian, hey, tell us a little bit about you. 30 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,120 I'm a heavy equipment operator. 31 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:47,880 I travel to the United States, building y'all's highways and roads and all that good stuff 32 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:54,440 and just a regular man that lives a regular life trying to treat everybody just like I 33 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:55,960 like to be treated. 34 00:01:55,960 --> 00:02:00,520 I have kids and my mom and dad is still blessed to be with me. 35 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:04,840 Of course, they went through hell behind it. 36 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,000 But it's all good. 37 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:08,000 Pretty much it, man. 38 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:09,360 Just a regular guy. 39 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,080 Well, we need those equipment operators. 40 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:13,080 I have a brother-in-law. 41 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:14,400 That's what he does too. 42 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:18,520 And that is makes America that kind of work. 43 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,640 Yes, yes, yes. 44 00:02:20,640 --> 00:02:22,320 So we appreciate you. 45 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:30,160 Hey, let's go back just a few years ago to when you had a widowmaker. 46 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:35,160 We like to call him that because they sound dramatic widowmaker heart attack. 47 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,240 And this was just less than three years ago. 48 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,280 So this is still pretty fresh. 49 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,200 I know you haven't talked about this a ton. 50 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:47,840 So it's OK if memories are still coming back to you. 51 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:55,160 But prior to October 3 of 2020, how was your health and what led up to this? 52 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,440 I asked the doctor. 53 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,560 My health, I worked out in a gym. 54 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,320 I was in a gym four days after the week. 55 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:03,320 I ate good. 56 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:04,560 I did everything. 57 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,600 I thought I was doing everything I was supposed to. 58 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,960 I was in really good shape when I had my heart attack. 59 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:17,760 So what the doctor told me, I had a block stent because everybody was looking at me 60 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:18,760 in the hospital. 61 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,440 I was like, what are you doing in here with a heart attack? 62 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:22,440 But things happen. 63 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:23,440 Yeah. 64 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:25,520 What was your age at that time? 65 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,040 I was 53. 66 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:28,120 OK. 67 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:29,520 So nice and young. 68 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:30,520 Yeah. 69 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:31,520 Yeah. 70 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,560 And what were you doing that day when it hit? 71 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,040 Oh, I was at work. 72 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:37,040 Was that work? 73 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,240 I was on my bulldozer. 74 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:45,720 And all of that started from the, like I was saying about the doctor, he told me it was 75 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,560 genetic. 76 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,400 And that's the only explanation he gave me. 77 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,760 He walked right out the door. 78 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:56,000 And my grandfather passed away from heart attack. 79 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:57,640 I never met him. 80 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,280 So that was young also. 81 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:00,760 He died in my mother's arms. 82 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:01,760 Yeah. 83 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:02,920 He died in my mother's arms. 84 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:04,840 She was like 16. 85 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:06,760 If you don't mind, give us some detail. 86 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,640 So you're driving a bulldozer, how do you feel? 87 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:10,640 What happens? 88 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,960 Do you just kind of drop over dead or what? 89 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:15,840 Run us through all of that day. 90 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:16,840 OK. 91 00:04:16,840 --> 00:04:18,880 I got up that morning, man, and I felt great. 92 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:19,880 It was a Saturday. 93 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,160 We were supposed to get off early that day. 94 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:23,800 We've been putting in a lot of hours. 95 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,000 We tend to do that. 96 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:28,680 This was a round noon. 97 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,680 I stopped for my lunch to eat lunch. 98 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:36,080 I ate me a quick bologna, if you know about a jealous sandwich. 99 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,360 A lot of my friends won't eat that to that day. 100 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,960 Did you say bologna and peanut butter and jelly? 101 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,240 No, sir, peanut butter and jelly. 102 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,760 Yeah, just peanut butter and jelly. 103 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,000 I ate a sandwich. 104 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,560 I put my stuff away. 105 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,080 This was like at 12. 106 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,800 By 12.05, it was back in gear. 107 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:58,600 I was pushing. 108 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,920 And instantly my neck started hurting. 109 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:03,800 It was like a pressure. 110 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,120 And I never had that. 111 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,560 I've never felt that before, ever. 112 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:09,760 So I stopped. 113 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:15,920 I said, OK, this is different. 114 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,640 And I waited for it to go away, and it didn't. 115 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:24,520 So I climbed down off the bulldozer, and then my breathing started changing. 116 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:28,920 I had another friend working with me because we was building these wind farms, the big 117 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,640 giant fans that span around the country. 118 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:33,920 We were building one of those. 119 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,080 So I was a good waste from the office. 120 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,760 So I had a water truck driver with me. 121 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:43,880 I told him, hey, I said, you need to come and take me to the office. 122 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:45,880 I thought it was hard work. 123 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:51,160 When I got to the, you know, because it started going into my chest, and then my breathing 124 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:55,280 is starting to do tricks. 125 00:05:55,280 --> 00:06:01,640 So when he got me to the office, I walked in and my medic was there. 126 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:08,680 And I told her, I said, I am having heartburn. 127 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:16,200 And she looked at me, and she knew it was more than I thought it was, because I'm going 128 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:22,240 to take you back a year before this, I was working in North Dakota. 129 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,880 I was working by myself, of course, on the bulldozer. 130 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:30,080 I had stopped for lunch, come back, started back working, and my girlfriend called me. 131 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:34,800 And she started randomly saying stuff, and then felt like something hit me in my chest, 132 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:35,800 like a hammer. 133 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,960 I got kicked in the chest. 134 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:43,800 And I told her, I said, my chest hurts. 135 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:49,840 And she knows when I say, if I say my chest hurts, that's something wrong, majorly wrong. 136 00:06:49,840 --> 00:06:52,400 I'm not the hospital type. 137 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:57,480 She told me, get off the phone right now and call 911. 138 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,600 So I did that. 139 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:08,160 Well, before I did that, I hung up the phone with her and I checked my pulse. 140 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:12,840 When I checked my pulse, my heartbeat was all over the place. 141 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,960 I didn't even know a heart could beat like that. 142 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:20,600 And I'm like, instantly, I said, I am dying. 143 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,360 Fear came and gripped me. 144 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,960 And I'm like, I might have by myself. 145 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:31,160 I'm having a heart attack, and there's nobody here but me. 146 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:32,840 And I got scared. 147 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:34,680 When I tell you, I got scared. 148 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,440 Fear just grabbed me. 149 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,000 My son was getting on the plane. 150 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,160 I had got him a job out there. 151 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:41,800 So he's flying up there. 152 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:43,760 And here I am. 153 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,680 Nobody going to be able to be that again from that core because I'm dead. 154 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:48,640 You know what I'm saying? 155 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,560 So I had all this going in my head. 156 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,000 I'm about to die. 157 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,680 Fear had me by the throat, man. 158 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:01,720 And all of a sudden, something happened. 159 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,120 Something happened. 160 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,480 It was a peace. 161 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,560 And it like it fell down from the sky. 162 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:16,960 And all of a sudden, I went from being scared, panicking that I'm dying to, it was like a 163 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,280 flick of a switch. 164 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:26,520 I went from all that fear to straight calm because the peace was so strong, I started 165 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:28,360 looking around. 166 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,320 That's how strong it was. 167 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,520 It took all the fear out of my body. 168 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,360 Everything was gone. 169 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:41,120 The next, my next starts were, oh, it's okay to die. 170 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:45,280 That's just how good a feeling that was that was around me. 171 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:51,480 And eventually the pain went away, I was on the phone to 911 operators. 172 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:57,080 They got me to the hospital and they told me I had GAT chest, you know what I mean? 173 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,560 Chest congestion, whatever. 174 00:08:59,560 --> 00:09:02,800 And I'm like, ah, that was too much. 175 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:09,200 I've never had chest congestion like that to where my heartbeat was beating like that. 176 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,000 That's what they told me. 177 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:12,440 So they just sent you home? 178 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:17,520 Yeah, they gave me something for indigestion and they sent me home and they said they did 179 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:24,080 not see anything on the machines that should have showed a heart attack. 180 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:28,840 So it makes sense then a year later when you did have the big heart attack that you thought 181 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:33,320 it was just indigestion or heartburn or something because you'd kind of been through this. 182 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:34,320 Yes, sir. 183 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:35,720 Exactly. 184 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,960 So that's what I told her. 185 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:42,840 Yeah, so you're in the office, but she knows it's more than that. 186 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:44,440 Yes, yes. 187 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,120 And then what happens? 188 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:53,760 She gave me Toms and then she gave me Aspen and she made me sit down. 189 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,160 And so my safety guy, they didn't heard about it. 190 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,680 So he comes over and he like, well, I'm going to take him over there. 191 00:09:59,680 --> 00:10:02,720 Now our office let it rest. 192 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,960 That was not about to happen. 193 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,960 He stopped that immediately and said I wasn't going nowhere. 194 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:17,640 So she got on a computer and start doing by this time my chest, the pain was in my chest. 195 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:22,800 And so I'm like, I heard her saying something about amulets and I'm at work. 196 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:24,400 I'm like, just not sure. 197 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,000 No, it's too much. 198 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,560 I don't want that kind of attention. 199 00:10:28,560 --> 00:10:29,560 You know what I'm saying? 200 00:10:29,560 --> 00:10:31,880 I'm just the type of state of low key. 201 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:32,880 Sure. 202 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,880 It's going to be embarrassing if it's just indigestion again. 203 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:36,880 Man. 204 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,120 Oh, and I'm like, please go away. 205 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:40,120 Please go away. 206 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,360 And I can hear them. 207 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,120 Safety guy sits right across from me. 208 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,440 All my arms started hurting. 209 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,800 That's what happened. 210 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,880 And right then I said, I'm in trouble. 211 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:59,800 You know, I said, I'm in trouble, but I didn't freak out like I did the year before. 212 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,640 I wasn't afraid like I was. 213 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:06,320 And once my arms started hurting, oh, I knew that's heart attack. 214 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,400 I knew that was no doubt in my mind. 215 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:15,760 And I said, God, I said, if I did anything to offend you, I am sorry. 216 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,040 And I left it just like that. 217 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:22,520 And I start remembering the year before how that piece was. 218 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,200 So I just sat there. 219 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,720 I waited it, start waiting out. 220 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,400 And all of a sudden all my pain started going away. 221 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,840 And I told them I said my pain is going away. 222 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:36,880 And they said, good. 223 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:41,880 And a couple of minutes after that, I felt myself passing out. 224 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:43,720 And there ain't nothing I could have done about it. 225 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:45,360 I couldn't have said nothing. 226 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:49,640 I felt myself passing out, going to sleep. 227 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:55,320 And with my safety guy sitting neat to me with my last thoughts were, I hope he catch 228 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:59,000 me before I smash my face in that floor. 229 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:00,560 That was it. 230 00:12:00,560 --> 00:12:10,120 And so when I opened my eyes, I was on the floor on my back and my medic, BJ, she was 231 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:11,800 on top of my chest. 232 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:13,720 She just pushed. 233 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,960 And she never saw me open my eyes. 234 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,080 So I was looking at her. 235 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:27,880 And I said, hey, oh my God, she jumped off of me. 236 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:29,280 She was leaning over me. 237 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,400 And let me tell you what I tell you, I scared. 238 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:36,360 I found out later that heart attack victims don't come back talking. 239 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,240 You know, that's just not what they do. 240 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,280 But that's not what happened to me. 241 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,360 So you broke all the rules. 242 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,400 I broke the rules. 243 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:49,520 And then her eyes was that big. 244 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:56,680 And she said, Brian, she said, your heart stopped. 245 00:12:56,680 --> 00:13:00,200 And I said, oh, no, it didn't. 246 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:05,000 I said I was asleep because I was dreaming. 247 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:10,280 And she said, you should imagine her face when I say that. 248 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:14,360 And she said, Brian, you died. 249 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:17,720 And I'm like, no, I didn't. 250 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,280 Because I know what I was seeing. 251 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:26,280 And that's when I looked down and I saw they had cut my shirt off. 252 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:30,320 All these people starting to pile up in the door. 253 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,600 These pads were on my chest. 254 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:37,240 This machine was sitting here just talking and talking. 255 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:42,400 The one they plugged me up to, the AED, AED, whatever they said, that machine. 256 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:43,480 Was it a defibrillator? 257 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,400 Defibrillator, yes, sir. 258 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:46,400 OK. 259 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:47,760 Now is the ambulance there yet? 260 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,480 Or are they all just doing this in the office? 261 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:51,640 No, no. 262 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:55,960 I'm 50 miles from a small city. 263 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,760 I'm 80 miles from anybody that could help me. 264 00:13:58,760 --> 00:13:59,760 Oh, wow. 265 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:05,400 So they're sending the ambulance as we, as all is going on, the ambulance is on the 266 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:06,400 way. 267 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:12,280 Actually, my boss was out of town driving in when the ambulance passed him. 268 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:13,680 And they was laughing. 269 00:14:13,680 --> 00:14:15,800 I wonder what's going on with that. 270 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,920 And then they get a phone call, finding out it was me. 271 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,880 So now they're following me on the ambulance. 272 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,080 So I'm in the middle of nowhere, man. 273 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,440 I mean, we build those things way out in the middle of nowhere. 274 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:28,920 They got me off the floor. 275 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,680 I told them, get me all you telling me I was dead. 276 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,080 I mean, I didn't feel dead. 277 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,960 You know, I don't know what high it's supposed to feel. 278 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:42,080 But if that's the way it's supposed to feel, I'm good with it. 279 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:46,280 So yeah, they got me off the floor. 280 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:54,840 And so what happened is right when I passed out and start understanding what was going 281 00:14:54,840 --> 00:15:00,280 on, I was in, I was up there with the stars. 282 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:07,400 I was among the stars because I remember seeing lights and I was just floating there. 283 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,120 But I didn't. 284 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,880 And I started seeing these things. 285 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:19,480 I can't remember what exactly they looked like, but I know when I was looking at them, 286 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:25,920 I was saying to myself, I said, okay, I said, this is not Earth stuff. 287 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:31,040 These things that I'm watching because what they were doing, they were shooting across 288 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:32,360 in front of them. 289 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:37,680 And they were like, I don't, I can't say they were ships, but they had to be some kind of 290 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:39,680 crap. 291 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:45,120 So I want to say crap because they were shooting across and behind them, they were leaving 292 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:49,920 these trails, these tales of like stars. 293 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:53,360 And they were going back and just putting on a show. 294 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:57,320 They were leaving these trails behind them and they were going back and forth. 295 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:02,920 And I said to myself, that's the first time I said, this stuff is not Earth. 296 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,400 I don't know what I'm looking at. 297 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:10,960 So I said to myself, okay, I fell out that chair. 298 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:11,960 So I'm dreaming. 299 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:17,280 Because you know, you have dreams that just don't make sense when you wake up. 300 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:18,280 You know what I'm saying? 301 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:22,440 So I'm figuring, I know that I'm dreaming. 302 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:27,280 I said, okay, I'm dreaming because what I'm seeing is I don't know what I'm looking at. 303 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:28,440 But they were putting on a show. 304 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:29,440 I tell you. 305 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:36,760 But you say those things were more like UFOs or more like angels or something or more 306 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:42,600 like, you know, astronomical things like planets, suns. 307 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:48,680 Man, when you go there and see that stuff, it's trying to put it into words. 308 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:57,120 And I can, I can't, my two things that I were thinking, because I can't remember seeing 309 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:03,360 the actual whatever it was, it could have possibly been angels doing that or some kind 310 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:11,480 of UFO, some kind of, some kind of shit or something that would leave a comet trail behind, 311 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,920 you know, but whatever it was doing, it was having fun with it. 312 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:16,080 And I was enjoying the show. 313 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:18,360 I just didn't know what I was looking at. 314 00:17:18,360 --> 00:17:19,360 And that's okay. 315 00:17:19,360 --> 00:17:22,040 It's okay if you don't know all that or understand. 316 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:25,440 Yeah, I cannot remember what they were. 317 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:26,440 Okay. 318 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:30,040 I didn't know I was in the stars in the universe first. 319 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:31,840 What did you see next? 320 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:35,280 It's like your channel turns on your TV. 321 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:40,920 So next thing, you know, I'm perfectly still and I'm in, I'm under this dome. 322 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:44,720 The dome looked like a cave to me because it was rock. 323 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,000 I could see all the rock, all the walls. 324 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:52,800 It was like the inside of a cave, but it was lit. 325 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,880 It was the rock was real pretty. 326 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,560 It was, it was an orange color. 327 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:03,920 And it went down and when it got to where there should have been, where the floor meets 328 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:07,080 the walls, then there was no floor. 329 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,800 The walls just stopped. 330 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,600 And I'm looking down where the floor should be. 331 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:16,360 And it was like, again, I'm looking into the universe. 332 00:18:16,360 --> 00:18:22,760 I'm looking down into like we do here at night when we look up at the sky. 333 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:27,600 It's like I was in the under the dome looking down into the sky. 334 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:32,120 And they had these square, these cuts of stone, they were square. 335 00:18:32,120 --> 00:18:36,680 There was two stones next to each other and there was a space from the next to it. 336 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:43,040 And these stones made a path just like you from the country that will always be that 337 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,280 that stone path to the front door. 338 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:50,280 So you won't walk in the mud or whatever, but they were side by side and they pray perfect 339 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:51,280 space. 340 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:55,640 And if you go to the right, they would even drop down a little bit, drop a little bit. 341 00:18:55,640 --> 00:19:01,880 And then he went and turn the other side went, I looked left and it went, it was all the 342 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,320 way to the wall. 343 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:09,640 And where it went to the wall, there was a door and it looked like a old castle door. 344 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,400 It had a curve on the top. 345 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,720 I was standing square doors. 346 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:20,400 And so there in the door, there was somebody in the doorway. 347 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:28,000 And I'm like, I'm like, wow, because they were looking back at me, but I can see through 348 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:29,120 them. 349 00:19:29,120 --> 00:19:33,360 So I'm like, wow, I can see through this person. 350 00:19:33,360 --> 00:19:39,560 And he's still not knowing not one second that I'm even dead, you know, and I'm looking 351 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,720 at him and they're looking back at me. 352 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:46,720 And so we just looking at each other. 353 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:51,960 And then I said, he never moved from that doorway, never moved. 354 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:55,520 And I'm at a good distance away. 355 00:19:55,520 --> 00:20:01,040 He's not like right there because he's so far away, I can't make out a face, you know, 356 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:05,120 but I could see there's something in the doorway and I can tell I can see through it. 357 00:20:05,120 --> 00:20:07,680 So my mind started getting the best of me. 358 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:11,920 And I said, I want to go see what that is. 359 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:22,600 And as soon as I said is I took off like a bullet, I saved him faster than a bullet. 360 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,600 And it was so smooth. 361 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:30,240 You actually see stuff going by you so fast. 362 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:31,880 And I just thought it. 363 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,880 And dude, I was going so fast. 364 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:41,760 And when I got to where I'll call in my guide, when I got to where he was, I put him in the 365 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,080 door and I popped up above the door. 366 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,080 So here I took off a bullet went right up against the wall. 367 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:51,000 That was no sudden stop and no earth stuff. 368 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,000 It's just, whoop, I was here and then I was there. 369 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:58,560 And man, let me tell you, when I did that, my mind went crazy. 370 00:20:58,560 --> 00:20:59,840 So in what way? 371 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:01,440 How did it go crazy? 372 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,080 Just excitement or? 373 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,080 I was so excited. 374 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,800 I'm like, how did I just do that? 375 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:13,680 How did I just go from here to there and I saw myself moving? 376 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,200 It wasn't a blink from one spot to the other. 377 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,480 I saw myself moving that fast. 378 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,320 And I got to the wall and I stopped. 379 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:27,000 Why I went to the top of the wall above the door above him is I've heard stories. 380 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,320 They don't let you see their face. 381 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:34,640 You know, some will hold you by the hand, but you can't never remember seeing the face. 382 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,920 So he wasn't going to let me see his face. 383 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:38,480 Him, her, I'm not sure. 384 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,280 So I popped up above him. 385 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,400 That was the whole thing to get me to the doorway. 386 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:47,400 Because after I stopped freaking out and realized, wait a minute, I came here to see this man 387 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:51,600 that I could see through and I looked down quickly. 388 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:57,080 You know, after all the excitement of me moving like that, and then I looked down real fast 389 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,120 because I forgot about him. 390 00:21:59,120 --> 00:22:01,680 And there he was right up under me. 391 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,800 And he, you know, the path that I was telling you, he started floating. 392 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:10,840 He left and he floated right along that pathway. 393 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:17,600 And I was up against the wall up there watching him leave until I, he disappeared. 394 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:21,600 And then everything went dark, total darkness. 395 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,920 But a lot of people hear darkness, they fear. 396 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,120 I was never afraid not one time that I was there. 397 00:22:28,120 --> 00:22:33,160 I didn't know what fear was or had no thoughts of it because none of it crossed my mind. 398 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:39,680 Regardless if I was in the light or if I was in the dark, fear just wasn't a part of me. 399 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:48,160 I noticed that each time I was going to these different places, I was changing because when 400 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:53,040 I was in the dark, I didn't ask no questions. 401 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,200 My soul was looking up. 402 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,320 I was, why I was looking up, I don't know. 403 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,640 In the first two parts of it, I was in control. 404 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,000 You know, looking around asking questions. 405 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:09,920 When I got into the darkness, I was just looking up automatically, I guess, but my soul knew 406 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:11,360 what was coming. 407 00:23:11,360 --> 00:23:12,360 I didn't. 408 00:23:12,360 --> 00:23:14,880 But why would I be looking up? 409 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:21,200 And then all of a sudden I saw a light and it was like a flashlight. 410 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:25,520 It was like somebody way out in the dark had a light like they were looking. 411 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:30,480 A man, that light turned on me and it was so bright. 412 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:34,760 I remember I threw my hands up or if I had hands, I don't know. 413 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,680 I threw them up to block the light. 414 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:43,960 Soon as I made that reaction, I was inside the light and it was a calm light. 415 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:45,360 Everything around me was calm. 416 00:23:45,360 --> 00:23:47,520 It wasn't hard to look at. 417 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,000 Soft, soft, beautiful light. 418 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,680 And it was, I looked up, down around me, it was everywhere. 419 00:23:53,680 --> 00:24:00,000 I said, okay, but I still wasn't freaking out like I was before. 420 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:06,760 Because each stage I go into, I was losing Brian and whatever I'm really am, it was coming 421 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,000 out and it was coming out. 422 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,960 I could tell because I stopped asking questions. 423 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,480 Something else was taking over. 424 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,840 I have a couple of questions before you proceed, if you don't mind. 425 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:18,840 Yes, sir. 426 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:19,840 Yes, sir. 427 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:20,840 Because I've been dying to ask. 428 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,360 So did you see what was beyond the door? 429 00:24:23,360 --> 00:24:25,160 I want to know what's behind the door. 430 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,200 No, it was dark. 431 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:31,600 So the darkness you're talking about was like you went through the door and that's when 432 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,160 you were into the dark. 433 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:40,120 And then went into the darkness because him in the door, he was illuminated, but behind 434 00:24:40,120 --> 00:24:41,680 him, it was dark. 435 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:42,880 Okay, got it. 436 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,280 But in the cave where I was, it was all lit up. 437 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:47,720 It was lit. 438 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:52,680 And I never saw where light source was coming from, but they say our souls are balls of 439 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:53,680 light. 440 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,840 So I could have been lightening up the whole place there myself. 441 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:57,840 I don't know. 442 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:58,840 Yeah. 443 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,440 Because when he moved from the door and I went in, then it was dark. 444 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,240 And this is a lot going on. 445 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:09,200 The people that were performing CPR on your body, did they tell you about how long your 446 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:10,840 heart was stopped? 447 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:15,560 They told me, if she told me four to five minutes, they didn't gauge it, but from the 448 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:20,320 time it took, you know, I just died right there and nobody was ready. 449 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,440 Yeah, that's a long time. 450 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:23,440 Mm-hmm. 451 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:24,440 Yep. 452 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:25,440 Okay, go ahead and keep going. 453 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,000 You're in this darkness now. 454 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:28,000 Yes. 455 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,520 And the light came and it took me in. 456 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:38,720 And as I'm waiting there, the front of the light start turning into a fog, start turning 457 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,280 into a fog right in front of me. 458 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:46,360 And so as I'm watching the fog, it start thinning out. 459 00:25:46,360 --> 00:25:51,760 And then I can see past the fog and it was a blue sky. 460 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,800 And I'm starting to be nosy now. 461 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,680 And I'm like, I'm like, that looked like the sky. 462 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,880 And next thing you know, man, it was like, God, just grab me. 463 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:09,840 Dude, I went into this love and it was so strong because it just takes you. 464 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,560 It don't come, say, hey, come here, let me talk to you. 465 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:13,560 Nope. 466 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:14,560 It grabs you. 467 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:21,400 It's like you stick your hand in a high voltage line and don't die from it. 468 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:27,960 All that power running through and shaking you all through your body and you just lay 469 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:28,960 in it. 470 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:29,960 So beautiful. 471 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,600 It's the best love you can ever feel. 472 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:33,960 There's nothing on it. 473 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:38,200 There's no words to describe that feeling. 474 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,800 I used to cry every time I get to this part. 475 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,520 I'm gonna have done a lot better now. 476 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:49,000 So yeah, I used to get to this part, man, because that was out of everything. 477 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:53,840 I saw everything, I felt everything that happened to me that day. 478 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:59,720 There's nothing ever you can feel the way that love was running through my body. 479 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:04,840 And at the time or my soul or whatever was happened, I'm thinking really it was some 480 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,560 type of cleansing or something that I had to go through. 481 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:13,560 I'm not sure, but I know what it felt like and I never forget it. 482 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:20,000 And as I was laying there having all this zap through me, there's words right in front 483 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,680 of me that said forgiveness. 484 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:27,800 The next one said love and the next one said peace. 485 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:32,560 When I saw the peace, when it left, I came out of the light. 486 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:37,960 Is this the time that you were telling me about the other day when you described the 487 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,040 waterfall of love? 488 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,040 Yes. 489 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:49,600 It's like I was, as far as the power of Satanic falls, if you was to bow to grab you and stick 490 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,360 you under the bottom, all that force was coming down. 491 00:27:53,360 --> 00:27:57,360 That's just another way of trying to describe it. 492 00:27:57,360 --> 00:28:03,000 You know, that force of water where you normally would destroy you, but in that state, the 493 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,960 way that love, the way that power of that water was falling is like the power of the 494 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:07,960 love. 495 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,240 Or just like getting shot. 496 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:15,720 There's so many ways you have to try for us humans to understand what I'm trying to say. 497 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,360 So that's the best two ways I can describe it. 498 00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:21,440 Using power is all power. 499 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:22,440 I like that. 500 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:23,440 Yeah. 501 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:29,120 And I hear people all the time as we're doing these interviews, trying to explain what that 502 00:28:29,120 --> 00:28:31,360 love is like that they felt. 503 00:28:31,360 --> 00:28:33,040 Nobody can do it very well. 504 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,640 You can't do it. 505 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,720 Everybody does it in a different way. 506 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,760 You have to, you have to feel it. 507 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:47,840 There's no way you can describe how all that, because we're humans, you don't, you don't 508 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:52,600 see that are no miracles, nothing like that being formed, not like that. 509 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:57,200 But I have all that just flooding through you and ain't nothing you're about to do about 510 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:58,720 it, but sit there and enjoy it. 511 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,280 It's like ecstasy. 512 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,680 The best feeling is the best feeling. 513 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:04,680 No. 514 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,880 And that's the best way I can describe it. 515 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:11,960 What's the closest time in, when you're on the earth, what's the closest thing that's 516 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:13,800 ever come to that feeling? 517 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:14,800 Nothing. 518 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,160 Nothing even close? 519 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:22,760 No, no, nothing, nothing will ever can touch that. 520 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,920 It's a whole new thing. 521 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,920 I get chill bumps just talking about it. 522 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,960 So isn't it hard to come back and not be feeling that anymore? 523 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,000 Or does some of that stick with you? 524 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,840 That's the hardest thing in the world is to come back. 525 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,720 That's the hardest thing. 526 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,400 That was the hardest thing. 527 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:49,320 Because after they got me off the floor, before the ambulance got there, they took me, I'm 528 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:53,200 getting ahead of myself, but just so I won't forget it later. 529 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,880 When I got back and they was all looking at me in that chair, sweating and wanting to go 530 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,680 to sleep, I would look up there. 531 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,680 I mean, they wouldn't even look at me because they couldn't do nothing with me. 532 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,400 I was just my friends. 533 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:04,920 We have family on the road. 534 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,360 They couldn't even look at me. 535 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:12,520 And while they were sitting there feeling sorry for me, I was feeling sorry for this 536 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:13,520 whole world. 537 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:19,520 And I'm like, man, y'all don't even realize what I just saw. 538 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,960 And everybody was sad. 539 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,920 And I was looking at them and I was sad for them. 540 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,520 And I was the one having the heart attack. 541 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,360 It's a whole different thing when you see that. 542 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:36,880 It's like when I came out to light, the while me moving fast, oh, what's that? 543 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,680 What is this I'm looking at? 544 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,640 When I came out of that light, I was all power. 545 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,680 I was all, with all I could ever want to be. 546 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,480 I was no more Brian. 547 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,640 I was thinking no human. 548 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,240 All of that was gone. 549 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,240 I felt like a God. 550 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,160 And I don't know how God's supposed to feel. 551 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:04,960 When I was in the sky, looking down and not tripping out saying, oh my God, I'm in the 552 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:05,960 sky. 553 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:07,360 Look, look, none of that. 554 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:08,360 All of that was gone. 555 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:09,360 I was calm. 556 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:15,640 I had peace flowing through me like peace, just like the love that I described. 557 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,760 You get that feeling with that peace. 558 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,080 It just flows through you. 559 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,560 That's not one thing on my mind. 560 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,400 No heart attack, no pain. 561 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,320 I didn't remember how I died. 562 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,920 I didn't even know I was even dead. 563 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,840 All I know I was right now is a superman. 564 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,600 And I can do anything that I wanted. 565 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:41,560 And I mean, just the thing is about Earth, I never remember nothing from Earth, not at 566 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,920 all, besides me falling out of that chair. 567 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,600 And that let me know, OK, you might be dreaming. 568 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:51,360 But then by the time I got to this part, I was all super power. 569 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,040 I was amazing. 570 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,160 I was strong, strong, strong. 571 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,680 And I knew I could do anything that I want. 572 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:05,640 And so as I'm up there in the sky, I'm looking down and I see these trees. 573 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,400 I see land. 574 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:11,880 So I start floating down out of the sky really slow. 575 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,360 I didn't move fast like I did. 576 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,360 I had no rush. 577 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:21,800 So I came down to the tops of these pine trees and I started looking at them. 578 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:26,600 And as I started floating down next to the trees, I'm looking at these needles. 579 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:31,760 They were so green, green needles on these pine trees. 580 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,680 And I could see all of them. 581 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:42,000 I could see and I could see them all, not just, you know, we have to look and focus. 582 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:48,400 And one thing I could see every all of the needles, every individual one. 583 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:55,640 And I floated down his trees and they went into the ground and then I floated backwards. 584 00:32:55,640 --> 00:33:01,880 These trees were up on this cliff or something because that was a drop off. 585 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:08,680 And a rock or the sand or whatever was on the slopes that the drop off, it was the same 586 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,680 color as the rocks that was in the cave. 587 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:15,160 It had that orange look, real pretty orange look. 588 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,960 And I looked below that. 589 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:23,560 So now here I am floating over the most beautiful garden I've ever seen in my life. 590 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,360 When I looked down, I was caught. 591 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,080 The flowers caught. 592 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,080 They were so beautiful. 593 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,160 They were huge and they were sparkling. 594 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,120 They were just sparkling. 595 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:41,960 And the colors of these flowers were a thousand times ours. 596 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,840 Or we could take the most beautiful flower in this world and look at it. 597 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,840 That flower is going to be dull compared to that. 598 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:54,640 It has not even a chance sitting next to those flowers. 599 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,920 And it was like they were alive. 600 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,680 They were entrancing me. 601 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,840 I couldn't even look away. 602 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:07,960 There were millions and they were in this valley because I could see to my left and 603 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,680 I could see to my right. 604 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:15,000 And then flowers went for miles that it disappeared on each side and big valley. 605 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,520 And I could see the sun rays or not the sun. 606 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,800 I'm sure there ain't no sun over there. 607 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,320 There were white rays. 608 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,480 We have yellow ones from the sun. 609 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,480 The rays that came down from the sky were white. 610 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,680 They were thick, thick. 611 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:29,960 You knew they were there. 612 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,720 There was no, oh, I think I see some rays. 613 00:34:32,720 --> 00:34:36,440 No, they were commanding out the sky. 614 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:40,240 And I'm not sure if that light that brought me there was still up there and that was the 615 00:34:40,240 --> 00:34:42,320 way the rays were coming from. 616 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:43,320 I don't know. 617 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,600 But I knew I came back. 618 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:49,400 So it must have been sitting up there still. 619 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,400 So yeah, I'm looking left. 620 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:58,160 I'm looking right on and man, the thing about there is the flowers that I was looking at. 621 00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:59,800 They had red ones and white ones. 622 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:05,760 I remember I zoomed in on two and there was a red one and white one sitting right next 623 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,400 together. 624 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:12,480 And I could still see the ones that were around them. 625 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:18,600 And I could still see left and right as I was zooming in on that flower. 626 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,680 I could still see everything. 627 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,400 Even zooming in blah, blah, blah. 628 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,920 It's all there where I could see it. 629 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:30,880 And as I messed around, I mean that garden had me so caught up. 630 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,160 I mean, a color you couldn't look away. 631 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,280 I could not look away. 632 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:43,600 And so I'm just drifting to the right real slow looking down at these flowers and then 633 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,400 the channel changed. 634 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,760 I'm back in the sky. 635 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:54,360 Nothing around me, nothing but big, giant blue sky and I'm up there just in the sky. 636 00:35:54,360 --> 00:36:01,160 And then as I'm looking in front of me, it's hard to describe this too because you're looking 637 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:07,440 at a blue sky and then something like something shipped or something opened, something did 638 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:08,440 something. 639 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:14,920 And then that was these four bright lights, four white lights straight up and down. 640 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:20,480 And so as I'm looking at the lights, I could tell they were coming to me. 641 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:21,960 Oh, I was going to them. 642 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:22,960 I'm not sure. 643 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:24,760 I'm not sure. 644 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,320 But I knew they were getting bigger. 645 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:33,640 And as I'm watching them come, all these little lights just start popping. 646 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,320 All these lights man, start. 647 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:42,680 And now I'm looking around me and as these little lights circling and just having a grand 648 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:50,440 old time all over me and I'm looking like, wow, you know, look at these lights. 649 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:58,240 And then as the big ones came, they stopped in front of me, the big lights came and they 650 00:36:58,240 --> 00:36:59,240 stopped. 651 00:36:59,240 --> 00:37:04,320 And then all the little lights, it reminded me myself of a disturbed being as like somebody 652 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:08,200 hit the hive and then all of these out circling and running around. 653 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,600 That's how they were around me. 654 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:15,960 And then they all start shooting to the big lights from then they started at the top. 655 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,120 They was just going and going. 656 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,120 And so now I'm looking. 657 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,320 So I'm starting to see ahead. 658 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,440 I mean, these things are they all melting together. 659 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:30,640 So I see ahead, then they go down and they making a neck. 660 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:36,760 It's just like they filling in and they were all just steady shooting away from me. 661 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:41,560 And then they build, I watched them go all the way down to the bottom because after you 662 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:47,720 hit the shoulders, as they came down, the shoulders made a point and then they went 663 00:37:47,720 --> 00:37:50,000 in into the light of the body. 664 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:55,680 So that lets me know he was holding his hands or his hands was behind his back. 665 00:37:55,680 --> 00:38:03,240 After they filled him in down to the bottom, I looked up and he had his head down the whole 666 00:38:03,240 --> 00:38:04,640 while they were making. 667 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,600 And man, his head was down if you could tell it's Chen was in his chest. 668 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,360 And when they finished, he lifted his head up. 669 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:15,840 I'm like, oh my God. 670 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:23,880 But I said that when I came back, but in my form, my spirit form didn't nothing need that 671 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:24,880 happen. 672 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:25,880 Surprised me. 673 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,360 It was just like I knew that's they that's God. 674 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,800 If that's how he pops up then, you know what I'm saying? 675 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:38,760 My soul wasn't amazed because I was I'd been there long enough to where I'm, you know, 676 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:43,760 I'm being almost too long if I'm supposed to go back because I was there a long time. 677 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,640 That's just the first time. 678 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,160 And man, he was it was so amazing. 679 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,680 And then he started as he he said that he was just looking at me. 680 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,680 Now imagine just looking at a man of all life. 681 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,560 You could see the structure of the face. 682 00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:04,200 You could see the jaw bone and then the light start coming out the side of his head and 683 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:05,200 they were waving. 684 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:11,120 There were two waving lights and then another one popped out on the top and it was waving 685 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:12,720 like waving. 686 00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:14,160 And I'm looking at him. 687 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,560 It's like, wow, he knows it all. 688 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,840 That's nothing that gets by him. 689 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:24,360 When I when this first happened to me, I was putting my story on everything. 690 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,680 I'm like, man, we have to see this. 691 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:27,880 We are so sleep. 692 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,640 We're so lost. 693 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:33,880 We all think in this one way and and it's not even that hard. 694 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:38,200 You know, all you got to do is love your neighbor. 695 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:45,920 And so somebody told me just before I even thought about writing a book or anything, you 696 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,920 know, somebody asked me about that. 697 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:54,640 And in one day they told me and they said, you sure that wasn't you? 698 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:58,920 And I'm like, I said, that's no way I can. 699 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:00,400 That's no way. 700 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,320 That was way too powerful. 701 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:03,680 That had to be God. 702 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,000 That's all I that's why I say the great one. 703 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:12,120 I don't even say God no more because looking at what I was looking at, that takes all that 704 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:13,240 out your mouth. 705 00:40:13,240 --> 00:40:14,920 All that God. 706 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:21,080 That's not even a big enough word to support this power that I'm sitting here looking at. 707 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:25,520 And when somebody they mentioned that and I didn't I'm like, I see a name. 708 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:26,520 That's no possible way. 709 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,640 That's how could I be looking at myself? 710 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:33,880 But then you start learning about a higher self. 711 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:35,360 And so I dismissed that. 712 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,000 And that was like two years ago. 713 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,920 Was there any communication going on between the two of you? 714 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,800 No, you just saw him knew who he was. 715 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,760 No, he was right in my face. 716 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,160 I figured he was God. 717 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:54,480 But as a couple of years passed by others, you know, you meet spiritual people. 718 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,760 And just just I did a podcast last week. 719 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:01,720 And when I got to that point, people had he had another one. 720 00:41:01,720 --> 00:41:03,880 That's, you know, there's a higher self. 721 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:08,120 You could have been looking at your own self because there's a little bit of us that comes 722 00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:09,120 to earth. 723 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:13,960 But our main self is still there. 724 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:20,400 Now, you want to want to tell you something that blew my mind because I wasn't ready for 725 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:21,400 that. 726 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,680 I still don't know who he was. 727 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:31,040 You know, as a spiritual people, keep saying that could have been my own self and man to 728 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,280 imagine you being that powerful. 729 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,520 I thought I was powerful enough just floating around. 730 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:41,480 And now here I'm looking at something that's could possibly be me. 731 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,720 Now that blew my mind. 732 00:41:43,720 --> 00:41:49,520 So on this particular day, and I'm sorry for interrupting on this particular day, you had 733 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,960 a couple of other times that your heart stopped. 734 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,900 We're still on the first time. 735 00:41:54,900 --> 00:41:56,880 Is there very much more that happens? 736 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:58,280 Would you get us? 737 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:03,360 Go ahead and take us through that and the experience of getting back in your body. 738 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:04,360 If you remember that. 739 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:05,360 Yes. 740 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:06,360 Oh, yeah. 741 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:07,360 I remember that. 742 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:12,240 As he, as he was looking at me, he started flying in stock. 743 00:42:12,240 --> 00:42:15,800 He went up and down and right. 744 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:21,760 He was just flying around and I'm looking at him and his head is turning and he's watching 745 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:22,760 me. 746 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:23,920 He never stopped looking at me. 747 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:30,040 When he got done doing that, he came back right back to my face and we looked at each 748 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,840 other and then he took off. 749 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:39,400 And this time he moved like I did in the first part because he moved so fast there were silhouettes. 750 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,840 He left silhouettes of himself. 751 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:43,480 That's when I opened my eyes on the floor. 752 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:44,480 Wow. 753 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:48,600 Stay with me until they fix me. 754 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:52,040 And you opened your eyes and they're doing CPR on you. 755 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:55,000 They're doing CPR and everything is going crazy. 756 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:56,000 Wow. 757 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,520 I just had the ride of my life. 758 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:03,200 He's coming in back into the body experience has kind of cracked me up. 759 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:04,200 They're so different. 760 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:05,200 Yeah. 761 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:11,120 I talked to somebody yesterday and his episode will probably be out before this one, but 762 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:15,800 he was in an operating room, was dead for a while. 763 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:20,400 I don't want to give away a bunch of details, but when he woke up, he had the sheet up over 764 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,560 his head because he was dead. 765 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:23,920 Oh yeah. 766 00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,880 And he woke up and pulled the sheet down and sat up like, hey. 767 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,320 Oh, I bet he blew their mind. 768 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:32,320 And yeah. 769 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:36,560 And you freaked out the woman that was doing chest compressions on you, I'm sure. 770 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:37,560 Oh yeah. 771 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:38,560 Yes. 772 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:42,000 I know, although she must have just been so excited that it worked. 773 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:43,000 Wow. 774 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:44,000 Yes. 775 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:45,000 Yes. 776 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:46,000 Yes. 777 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:51,160 She said, I've done that a bunch of times and nobody has come back talking and you scared 778 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:52,160 me. 779 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:53,160 Wow. 780 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:54,160 Okay. 781 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,200 We don't want to go on for five hours today. 782 00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:57,680 So if that's it. 783 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,520 Yeah, I know because I can, it's a long one. 784 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:01,520 Yeah. 785 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:02,520 It's okay. 786 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:03,520 It's awesome. 787 00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:04,520 And I love the detail. 788 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,000 The first one is just the longest. 789 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,000 Okay. 790 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:08,000 Yes. 791 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,040 Let's talk about those. 792 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:14,120 Does the ambulance get there before number two heart stoppage happens? 793 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:15,120 Yes, sir. 794 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:20,600 The ambulance got there and they put me in the ambulance and soon as they hooked me up 795 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:26,080 to all these wires or whatever, I closed my eyes. 796 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,920 This time when I, the first time I died, I didn't feel nothing. 797 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,160 I just felt myself passing out. 798 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,240 But this time I felt a jerk. 799 00:44:33,240 --> 00:44:34,720 It was like a jerk. 800 00:44:34,720 --> 00:44:37,760 And then I was standing next to my butt. 801 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,320 I couldn't see nobody else in the ambulance. 802 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,320 And I was looking, I was just close to my face. 803 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,880 So a jerk, like someone jerked your spirit out of your body? 804 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:47,880 Yep. 805 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:48,880 That's interesting. 806 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:52,520 Like it, like it didn't roll in. 807 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:57,480 Like it didn't really want to come out, but it was forced because I'm not getting any, 808 00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:58,480 nothing to my heart. 809 00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,280 I'm 99% blocked. 810 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:01,280 Yeah. 811 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:07,440 So, yeah, it's like it, I came back and then, you know, I guess I'm supposed to be here, 812 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,240 my body like it couldn't hold. 813 00:45:10,240 --> 00:45:11,600 And so I died again. 814 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,200 And I'm standing there looking at my face. 815 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:15,880 My head was turned to the side. 816 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:21,560 My eyes were closed and my mouth was open because I could see the top row of my teeth. 817 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,200 Honestly, I didn't even know what I was. 818 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,200 I was looking at my face. 819 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:30,520 I called myself and it, I didn't like, what is that? 820 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,720 I didn't want to have nothing to do with it. 821 00:45:32,720 --> 00:45:35,280 I didn't feel nothing for it. 822 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:39,520 It was useless, a useful piece of dirt to me. 823 00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,000 Pretty much what it was. 824 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:42,000 Yeah. 825 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,520 You were done with that dirty old body. 826 00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:50,960 My soul did not want nothing to do with my body. 827 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:55,600 And that's, it trips me out how people, you get these people that figure that God gives 828 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:59,080 to women and men and you know what I'm saying? 829 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:03,720 Thinking you all, and then when your soul actually jumped out to everybody, it's going 830 00:46:03,720 --> 00:46:09,000 to look at you a whole different way than the way you look at yourself. 831 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:10,640 Because it cared nothing. 832 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:15,800 And so after I sat there and tried to figure out what that was I was looking at because 833 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,320 I never knew, never even knew it was me. 834 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:19,840 I was gone. 835 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:25,440 And this time I was, I was in this place and I was floating and it was this in front of 836 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,640 me was this big huge circle. 837 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,280 It's huge. 838 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,640 And they had flowers all inside this circle. 839 00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:37,200 Each flower's had a group, the green and blue ones, whatever. 840 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,320 And he all made up this one circle. 841 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:48,160 And as I looked at this circle, it was, it just comes to say all of these represents 842 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:57,120 different people, different languages, different cultures, but they all are inside that one 843 00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:58,880 circle. 844 00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:03,880 And they must know we are all one, even though I look different from you or talk different 845 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:08,400 from you, but I can't hate you because I don't know you. 846 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:09,400 You know what I'm saying? 847 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,120 It's just we are all one. 848 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,920 We just can't see that here because everybody wearing different suits. 849 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:17,480 You know what I'm saying? 850 00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:22,400 So that's the way, I mean, and I never had to think about it or nothing. 851 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,320 When I came back, that's what I said. 852 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:25,520 And that's what comes out. 853 00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:30,320 And I will say it and tell the fourth time, which is not for me to go. 854 00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:37,840 So from there, and this, this part here, like I said, after I, after I was looking at these 855 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,640 flowers and got my explanation, the channel changed. 856 00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,880 Now I'm inside this white room. 857 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:50,560 Beautiful, white, white, shiny white. 858 00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:56,040 It was so white, it made me pay attention to the whiteness of this room, the wall, 859 00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,920 ceiling, floor, everything was shiny white. 860 00:47:59,920 --> 00:48:05,000 And they had podiums there, like they have in museums. 861 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:12,800 And they had these animals sitting on top of these podiums in this white room. 862 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:19,760 I'm thinking like a museum type place because the animals were statues. 863 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:25,720 And these animals, they were these dogs that the Egyptians drew on the walls. 864 00:48:25,720 --> 00:48:32,400 I remember seeing growing up are these black Egyptian dogs because in the way they drew 865 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:37,880 them on the wall, they would draw a long pointing nose with a ball on the end. 866 00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:42,480 I don't know if you ever remember seeing that growing up and had the pointy ears. 867 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:43,480 Sure. 868 00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:44,480 Yeah. 869 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,800 And there was a whole dog. 870 00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:52,920 There was a statue, but that it looked just like the way they drew them, not the way a 871 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:54,920 real dog looks. 872 00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:58,960 And they were, they were, oh, it was quite a few of them in this room, in this white 873 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:00,320 room. 874 00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:06,320 And it just made me give this, have this museum, like they were on display. 875 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,480 You know, I've done studies. 876 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:13,360 I don't know how much it ties in with the studies, but I heard those dogs were their 877 00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,480 protectors. 878 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,880 And in the afterlife, they would have them cross over. 879 00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:24,440 So after I looked at the dogs, till this day, I was wondering why I was there looking 880 00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:25,440 at that stuff. 881 00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:30,920 And it made me think, maybe I had a past life in that time. 882 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:36,520 You know, maybe I would, you just never know, man, and we won't never, we can't figure 883 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,720 that stuff out, but you'll know when you leave. 884 00:49:39,720 --> 00:49:41,440 I guarantee that. 885 00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:50,240 So after, after the museum, I was like back in space and I was looking down at the earth 886 00:49:50,240 --> 00:49:55,800 and the earth might have been the size of an orange from my distance of where I was. 887 00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:57,840 And I'm looking at it. 888 00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:05,440 The blueness of this earth was so, it was so beautiful, deep blue that it was glowing. 889 00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,880 It was glowing. 890 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:14,360 And that was a mist that like that fog that I was in, in the first part in the light, 891 00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:18,600 that mist, it had that mist around the earth. 892 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:24,720 And I was, and it was so blue, and the earth was so blue, it was still, it was still pulsating 893 00:50:24,720 --> 00:50:25,720 through the mist. 894 00:50:25,720 --> 00:50:28,480 You could, and it was so beautiful. 895 00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:32,160 And after I looked at that, I'm like, how could something be so beautiful? 896 00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:35,320 How so much evil killing it? 897 00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:40,960 All this stuff, but from my distance, it was beautiful. 898 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,600 I mean, it was beautiful and it was round. 899 00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:44,600 It wasn't flat. 900 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:49,400 Don't worry, I'm not in the flat earth or category. 901 00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:54,400 But I'm just saying, I'm against some slack, man. 902 00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:55,400 I know. 903 00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:56,680 But I'm familiar with that philosophy. 904 00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:58,080 I find it humorous. 905 00:50:58,080 --> 00:50:59,080 Oh, yes. 906 00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:00,080 Yes. 907 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:01,080 Yes. 908 00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:07,600 So from then, my channel changed, I saw so much other stuff flash in front of me, and 909 00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,560 I can't remember those. 910 00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,280 I can't remember. 911 00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:16,880 So when I opened my eyes in Amulet, everybody that was just looking at me, and they were 912 00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:17,880 just looking at me. 913 00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,640 So I'm like, I say, what happened? 914 00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,520 She said, oh, we had to shock you again. 915 00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:25,960 I said, oh, I said, okay. 916 00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:33,800 So we waited on the helicopter to get there because I was way too far for them to be transported 917 00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:34,800 by the ambulance. 918 00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:39,040 So I heard the helicopter come in and put me in the helicopter. 919 00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:43,120 Yeah, it was a small helicopter, I was surprised. 920 00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,760 And so they stuck me in there. 921 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:50,960 And there was this guy in the back with me, while the other two flew or one, whoever I 922 00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:51,960 can't remember. 923 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:56,960 And I was just looking out the window and joined the flight, but every time I would look back 924 00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:01,720 at him, he was watching me like a hawk. 925 00:52:01,720 --> 00:52:03,520 Just in case this guy dies again. 926 00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:07,760 I tell you, because I had already coded twice and they knew it. 927 00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:08,760 Yeah. 928 00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:12,800 Yeah, and he made his money that day. 929 00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:16,960 Every time I took a peek over there, he was watching me like a hawk. 930 00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:25,320 So they got me to the hospital and they were yelling, oh, blockage, blockage. 931 00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:32,160 They got me in there and they stripped all my clothes off and start prepping me for surgery. 932 00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,200 And I remember I was freezing, freezing. 933 00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,760 Now I went from sweating to freezing. 934 00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:41,480 So I'm laying on that cold table, my arms on my side of me. 935 00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:46,440 And then that time I just left. 936 00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:51,440 And when I came back, my arms were over my head. 937 00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:58,000 And so I asked the guy, I said, they was just working. 938 00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,360 Nobody was, you know, they was just working. 939 00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:05,080 So I said, hey, I said, wasn't my arms on my side? 940 00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:09,160 And he said, yeah, he said, you didn't feel that? 941 00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,680 I said, no, I said, feel what? 942 00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:16,400 He said, man, when we shocked you, you see your whole body almost blew off the table. 943 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,480 We had to reset you. 944 00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,160 And that's when your arm, he said, you didn't feel that? 945 00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,840 I said, no, I didn't feel that. 946 00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:25,240 I didn't want to feel that. 947 00:53:25,240 --> 00:53:27,160 Yeah, you weren't even there. 948 00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,800 No, I was gone, gone, man. 949 00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:31,960 And they, they, they, they wrestled me again. 950 00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,000 And here I am. 951 00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:38,360 This time I'm in front of the, it reminded me of a chair. 952 00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:39,920 It reminded me of a chair, man. 953 00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:41,720 And it was so old. 954 00:53:41,720 --> 00:53:43,640 It was old, old. 955 00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:50,040 It didn't have a backrest, but it was, it was the size, maybe three or three, four story 956 00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,840 building, but it looked like a foot stool. 957 00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:54,280 It didn't really look like a chair. 958 00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,960 It looked more like a foot stool, but it was huge. 959 00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:59,600 It was gigantic. 960 00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,920 So at the top, I can't remember the details of it. 961 00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:08,280 I can't remember of the details of it, but there were some I do. 962 00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:14,640 At the top, there were green vines growing down from the top on down the sides and they 963 00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,080 went all the way down to the floor. 964 00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,040 These vines were beautiful. 965 00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:24,080 The colors, man, up the stuff there, it's just, it's just everything you look at, you're 966 00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:27,560 going to look at it more if you just don't look away. 967 00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:31,120 And on this vine, they had these yellow flowers. 968 00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:36,160 They, they, they reminded me of two flowers and they were beautiful. 969 00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:40,520 And they were growing down these vines all the way down to the floor. 970 00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:46,760 And what held this box or chair, whatever it was, the wood was old, old, and it was 971 00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:51,040 carved and it was carved footing. 972 00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:52,640 They were carved wood. 973 00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:57,800 And they, you could tell just looking at it, it was ancient old, by the way it looked. 974 00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:01,200 So whatever I'm looking at was really old. 975 00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,360 And you know that bothered me for a couple of years. 976 00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,240 I kept looking for flowers. 977 00:55:05,240 --> 00:55:09,320 I kept looking for them to see anything that was close. 978 00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:15,760 And do you know just a few weeks ago after three years, a few weeks ago, I finally found 979 00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,560 yellow flowers that look like those. 980 00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,120 And you know the name of them? 981 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,640 No, what are they? 982 00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:24,960 Creamy yellow angels trumpet. 983 00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:29,000 Now imagine the name of that that I found. 984 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:34,760 It could be a coincidence, of course, but they look exactly like the ones that I saw 985 00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:36,480 and look at their name. 986 00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,680 Creamy yellow angels trumpet. 987 00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,280 Yeah, I'll Google that as soon as we're done. 988 00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:42,280 Yes, yes. 989 00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:43,280 All right. 990 00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:49,080 Did you see anything else on this third experience that was new from the first two besides that? 991 00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:50,080 No, sir. 992 00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:54,520 I think I had stuff flashing after the chair that I can't remember. 993 00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:56,760 And some of that will probably come back to you. 994 00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:57,760 Yeah. 995 00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,000 It's normal for it to take some time. 996 00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:01,000 Yeah. 997 00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:07,480 I think it's two years because the first podcast I did, I took the followers right to the light 998 00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:12,480 because I couldn't remember the beginning beginning, but from the light to seeing the 999 00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:15,640 light man, I'd never forget that part. 1000 00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:20,880 But I just wasn't, I didn't know what the beginnings were, but all that's that. 1001 00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:25,200 I had to change my book because I wrote it before my memory. 1002 00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,000 So when I started editing, then that's it. 1003 00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:29,600 Oh, I had to change that. 1004 00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,160 That's not how it happened. 1005 00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:36,280 And these things can take, you know, this can take a few days for all the memories to 1006 00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:37,520 come back for some people. 1007 00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:40,840 It takes a few years and that's okay. 1008 00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:46,800 And some people that I've talked to have said, I learned all about such and such like the 1009 00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:48,320 creation of the world. 1010 00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:52,360 I know that I learned all about it, but I don't remember it now. 1011 00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,600 But I know that I learned it. 1012 00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:55,600 Yes. 1013 00:56:55,600 --> 00:57:02,040 I knew I was seeing some stuff that I can't remember what they are in the beginning until 1014 00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:08,760 this day I'm like, what were they, but they were shooting across, leaving sparkling trails 1015 00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,480 and I was having fun. 1016 00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,600 And I even know what I was looking at. 1017 00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:15,320 Yeah, that's awesome. 1018 00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:21,840 I want to get back to this, seeing all these lights come into a formation that at first 1019 00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:23,480 you thought was God. 1020 00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:24,480 Yes. 1021 00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:28,280 Besides a few people telling you, no, maybe it was something else. 1022 00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,400 Maybe it was your higher self. 1023 00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:35,520 Has anything else happened or memories that would lead you to believe that that wasn't 1024 00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:36,520 God? 1025 00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:37,520 No. 1026 00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:38,520 Okay. 1027 00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:39,880 I believed in my soul. 1028 00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:45,800 That was God, you know, like I said, it's still new to me. 1029 00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:47,960 Five years later, I'm probably going to say something different. 1030 00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:53,160 If I were you, I would stick with those first thoughts that came to you. 1031 00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:56,360 They were probably the ones that are right. 1032 00:57:56,360 --> 00:58:00,240 And don't let somebody change your mind that maybe it was something else. 1033 00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:01,400 Yeah. 1034 00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:05,600 And you know, as far as me, it don't even matter what it was. 1035 00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:11,080 You know, I know what I saw because I was raised in a religion. 1036 00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:12,960 You know, you don't just die and go to heaven. 1037 00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:18,560 You got to go through all this other routes and rules and regulations. 1038 00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:24,560 But when I saw what I saw, when I left my body, the way I felt what I felt, I don't 1039 00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:25,800 care what nobody said. 1040 00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:26,800 Good. 1041 00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:28,560 I know where I'm going when I leave to you. 1042 00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:29,800 That's great. 1043 00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:33,600 So it doesn't matter who he wants. 1044 00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,520 It's just the fact that I went on a grand tour. 1045 00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:43,280 And speaking of religion, has your beliefs or thoughts about your faith changed since 1046 00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,200 this happened? 1047 00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:46,200 Everything changed. 1048 00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:47,200 Tell me about that. 1049 00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:48,200 How has it changed? 1050 00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:53,800 I don't see because I'm going to have to let me let me try and explain this man. 1051 00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:58,600 And it's going to be really, really hard when you leave here and come back. 1052 00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:00,640 It's like you left the box. 1053 00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:03,880 It's like you jumped out of a little bitty box. 1054 00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:09,080 So when you come back, you're not in that box anymore. 1055 00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:11,400 What everybody else is. 1056 00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,000 So that's what makes it hard. 1057 00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:15,000 You know what I'm saying? 1058 00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:19,760 All people have, if they're religions, their beliefs, that's all you're taught. 1059 00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,160 That's all you program to know. 1060 00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:23,160 You know what I'm saying? 1061 00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:25,400 You choose whatever you believe in. 1062 00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:33,080 But when you get out of that box and come back, none of that makes any sense to me anymore. 1063 00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:38,440 It's like all of these are earth rules, earth stuff. 1064 00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:43,880 Because when I left earth, I never remembered nothing else from it. 1065 00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:51,320 So as far as religion, no, religion, my thing is the universe was rolling way before religion 1066 00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:54,400 came here, before man started religion. 1067 00:59:54,400 --> 01:00:02,400 So whatever happened to you in that time before the universe was rolling, the universe hasn't 1068 01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:03,400 changed. 1069 01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:08,480 So when you come with your rules and saying this and this is where it's supposed to go, 1070 01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:12,320 after you leave here and go there and come back, you don't see it that way. 1071 01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:16,520 And as nobody walking this earth, it can tell me different. 1072 01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:17,520 Nobody. 1073 01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:19,640 It changes your mind. 1074 01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:21,200 Everything is different. 1075 01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:25,280 Like I said, I felt sorry for humans when I came back. 1076 01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:30,400 And then I went into the depression and all the other stuff that comes with that. 1077 01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:31,400 It's a weight. 1078 01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:32,400 It's a weight to carry. 1079 01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:33,920 And I love carrying. 1080 01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:40,640 So just to clarify, would you say that what you experienced contradicted your religion 1081 01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:46,200 or it just was such a higher level, you realized the religion you had been, church you had 1082 01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:48,520 been going to didn't really matter anymore. 1083 01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:50,320 It didn't matter anymore. 1084 01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:54,160 And I tell you another thing and I can tell everybody else this. 1085 01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:55,840 You're going to forget when you leave here. 1086 01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:57,680 You're not going to remember going to your church. 1087 01:00:57,680 --> 01:00:59,160 You won't remember none of that. 1088 01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:01,240 It's all going to be gone. 1089 01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:02,240 Just that simple. 1090 01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:04,360 And I know it's hard to understand. 1091 01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:07,520 How about memories of your loved ones? 1092 01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:10,240 Those will be there. 1093 01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,960 You take the good when you leave here. 1094 01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:16,480 Your family, they all are there. 1095 01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:18,640 Everybody's there because everybody talks about it. 1096 01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:20,840 I didn't go that far. 1097 01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:24,760 All I can tell you, I didn't remember nothing from this place. 1098 01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:26,240 It was all gone. 1099 01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:28,400 So whatever you think you're doing, right? 1100 01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:29,880 I don't know. 1101 01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:34,680 Nobody's believes believe in what you think you have to believe in. 1102 01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:39,680 But if you had the chance to die like me and come back, you will be talking totally different 1103 01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:40,680 to me. 1104 01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:45,480 So has it helped you to talk to other people that have had experiences like this? 1105 01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:47,320 Oh, I had to, man. 1106 01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:50,160 I was I was a lost cause. 1107 01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:53,880 I was so lost and confused because I grew up in religion. 1108 01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:57,920 The first of all, I was happy that I wasn't in the hell. 1109 01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,120 I was so happy. 1110 01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:03,720 And then I have to, okay, what did all these thoughts go through my mind now? 1111 01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:06,080 Okay, I had to find somebody. 1112 01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:08,680 I couldn't talk to regular people. 1113 01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:10,560 You know, nobody understand me. 1114 01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:14,680 I had to find people that it happened to and I did. 1115 01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:21,280 So I went on these near death accounts and listen and learn and start talking to people. 1116 01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:22,560 And I met this friend. 1117 01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:24,320 Her name is Lisa. 1118 01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:26,800 And she had to work with me, man. 1119 01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:33,520 I mean, okay, all this you in your mind that you grew up with now, you saw something totally 1120 01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:34,520 different. 1121 01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:35,520 I needed help. 1122 01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:37,800 And I grew a lot. 1123 01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:43,640 I had a million questions even because in my mind, when I see that come back, it's telling 1124 01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:45,480 me everything's okay. 1125 01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:49,520 But what you drilled and growing on, that's not the way. 1126 01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:52,520 But when I laid in my hospital bed, I will never forget this. 1127 01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:55,320 He never said nothing to me when I was looking at him. 1128 01:02:55,320 --> 01:03:00,000 But when I came back and I was laying in my hospital bed so overwhelmed about all what 1129 01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:06,280 I saw, a little voice right in my head said, Brian, heaven is easy. 1130 01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:08,720 It's all about love. 1131 01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:15,440 And when I heard that, I said, and you know, when I left that hospital, I jumped in this 1132 01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:17,080 within both feet. 1133 01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:19,840 I had to find somebody that said that. 1134 01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:24,720 And do you know most of the accounts that I've read, they said, just what I said. 1135 01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:26,360 So that confirmed it. 1136 01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:32,200 Whatever was being said in my ear was being confirmed by all these other near death experiences. 1137 01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:34,280 It's all about love. 1138 01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:39,800 And that's why I will say until the day I leave here, honestly, I mean, I left and I 1139 01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:42,560 couldn't remember nothing from here. 1140 01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:46,920 But yet I'm supposed to be judging from his big bad God and all of that. 1141 01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:48,680 You didn't fill any guilt. 1142 01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:50,800 Any guilt. 1143 01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:52,280 As far as. 1144 01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,120 Well, you weren't perfect. 1145 01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:55,120 I'm not perfect. 1146 01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:56,120 Nobody's perfect. 1147 01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:57,520 No, no, no. 1148 01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:02,200 And some of us are, some of us are afraid we're going to get over to that other side and 1149 01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:07,080 oh man, the guilt from all the imperfections, you know, things maybe I did, I shouldn't 1150 01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:09,480 have any of that feeling. 1151 01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:11,000 That was gone, sir. 1152 01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:12,840 That was gone. 1153 01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:14,240 All of that was gone. 1154 01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:15,680 That was no guilt. 1155 01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:21,400 It seems to me like that pure love that you explained, the waterfall and everything of 1156 01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:27,720 love is so contrary to the feeling of guilt that they can't really exist in the same place. 1157 01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:29,760 Is that how you felt? 1158 01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:30,760 They can't. 1159 01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:31,760 Yeah. 1160 01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:32,760 That's too power. 1161 01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:35,160 It's too different there. 1162 01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:37,480 It's too different. 1163 01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:42,720 People think when you leave here, you're going to have your same mind. 1164 01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:43,720 Just like your thoughts. 1165 01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:47,240 Oh, you know, I can't, I serve God this way. 1166 01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:53,920 Oh, I've even heard that, you know, Brian, I didn't go to nobody's church. 1167 01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:58,120 Everybody was like, how did I get the opportunity to see that? 1168 01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:02,840 God lets me know God is so much bigger than us. 1169 01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:08,120 When you, when you, when people leave here, you will not remember your religion. 1170 01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:12,360 All of that stuff is you're going to take the good and you're going to go back to your 1171 01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:16,520 higher self or back to wherever you came from. 1172 01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:22,160 People that may be walking around afraid of death, what would you say to them? 1173 01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:28,560 It's hard to say, it's hard to say, oh, it's going to be okay if you haven't seen, you 1174 01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:29,560 know what I mean? 1175 01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:35,280 So all the best I can say is, all you do is go to sleep. 1176 01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:38,440 You don't, it don't, death don't hurt. 1177 01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:40,560 All I know is death freed me. 1178 01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:44,040 I was free when I died and that's the best I could tell him. 1179 01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:46,040 You're going to be free. 1180 01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:47,520 You're going to be free. 1181 01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:53,160 All this weight, no bills, no, none of that, no worries. 1182 01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:55,400 You're going to change and you're going to be powerful. 1183 01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:58,880 You're not going to think like you did thought here on this earth. 1184 01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:02,840 All of that is going to stay here and you're going to be free. 1185 01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:06,320 Lastly, I'm going to give you the floor here. 1186 01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:12,400 I'm not going to ask you a question except to say, leave our listeners with whatever 1187 01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:15,520 Brian thinks is really important today. 1188 01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:19,200 What is important with Brian is loving your neighbor. 1189 01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:20,760 You love your neighbor. 1190 01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:22,400 Do good to people. 1191 01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:26,440 You don't have to worry about dying or bad things happen. 1192 01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:28,720 And also we make mistakes. 1193 01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:30,840 I came back, I make mistakes. 1194 01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:32,120 I died three times. 1195 01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:33,360 I am human. 1196 01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:34,840 That's what we do. 1197 01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:41,480 But in all that, we need to find the love and in anything that we see, maybe arguments, 1198 01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:45,480 it take, we take one and say, okay, I have to find a love. 1199 01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:50,400 There's love in here some way to fix this. 1200 01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:55,960 You know, if everything is about love and we have to try and figure it out, but I could 1201 01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:59,760 tell you live your best life and don't be afraid to die. 1202 01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:04,040 We are here to live this life, not to be here afraid of it. 1203 01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:06,440 And what's going to happen when we leave? 1204 01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:09,400 Love your name and you're going right back to the light. 1205 01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:10,400 That's a great message. 1206 01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:11,400 Thank you. 1207 01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:14,400 If people want to hear more about your story, where do they find it? 1208 01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:15,600 You had mentioned a book. 1209 01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:17,560 What's it called and where do they find it? 1210 01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:18,720 Yes, sir. 1211 01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:28,680 I have a website called deathfree.com and also the book is on Kindle. 1212 01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:32,960 I have an ebook on Kindle and I just finished the paperback. 1213 01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:35,960 So the paperback will be available in the next couple of days. 1214 01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:36,960 All right. 1215 01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:40,600 We'll put that website in the show notes so everybody can find it. 1216 01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:42,840 Brian Jordan, thank you so much. 1217 01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:44,640 This was fascinating today. 1218 01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:50,360 Yes, sir. 1219 01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:55,240 Thanks again for listening and a quick reminder to follow this podcast and take a few seconds 1220 01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:56,760 to write a review. 1221 01:07:56,760 --> 01:08:00,000 It helps others to easily find us. 1222 01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:04,960 Until next time, I wish you everything good that you're looking for in this life and the 1223 01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:27,360 next.