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Hello and welcome to Foley's End podcast. A podcast

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created to plant the word of God into your heart,

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giving you the tools you need to lead a life

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full of the abundance Jesus said he came to give

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us all. That's John 10 verse 10. Hello, I'm Gareth

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Cox. And I'm Jessie Cox. I was so pleased you're

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listening to our podcast and thank you so much

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for joining us. We are continuing with our series

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on raising a family. We've covered so much and

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I've really enjoyed it and it is jam -packed

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with good info. This however is the final episode

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and if you haven't heard the previous ones please

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do go back and have a listen. So Jessie today

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we're talking about the Sabbath rest. Can you

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tell me what the Sabbath rest is? Yes, if you

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have been a Christian for a little bit you might

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have heard people talking about the Sabbath.

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And the Sabbath is a tradition that was established

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within Jewish culture when Moses led Israel out

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of Egypt. So the Sabbath is also mentioned in

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the Ten Commandments, and it's a bit complicated

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to explain with the time that we've got, so we're

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just going to have a look at it from when he

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says it in the Ten Commandments, because the

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Sabbath is number four. Gareth, can you read

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that in Exodus? Yeah, Exodus 20 verse 8, it says,

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So it's super simple, it's just saying remember

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it and keep it holy. And later on in the book

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of Exodus, which is like the second book in the

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Bible, if you're trying to have a look for it,

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God gives a little bit more instruction. Exodus

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31 verses 12 to 17. Instructions for the Sabbath,

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this is titled. The Lord then gave these instructions

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to Moses. Tell the people of Israel, be careful

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to keep my Sabbath day. For the Sabbath is the

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sign of the covenant between me and you from

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generation to generation. It is given so you

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may know that I am Lord, who makes you holy.

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You must keep the Sabbath day, for it is a holy

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day for you. Anyone who desecrates it must be

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put to death. Anyone who works on that day will

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be cut off from the community. You have six days

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each week for your ordinary work, but the seventh

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day must be a Sabbath day. of complete rest,

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a holy day dedicated to the Lord. Anyone who

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works on the Sabbath must be put to death. The

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people of Israel must keep the Sabbath day by

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observing it from generation to generation. This

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is a covenant obligation for all time. It is

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a permanent sign for my covenant with the people

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of Israel. For in six days the Lord made heaven

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and earth, but on the seventh day he stopped

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working and was refreshed. So basically what

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God's saying here is just like He rested, you

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know, when He created the world that's mentioned

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in Genesis, that He's saying this is how people

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will know that you belong to Me, that there's

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a covenant between us, because you're going to

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work for six days, but on the seventh day I want

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you to rest. And this concept was completely

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unheard of at the time of the world. You know,

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there was no such thing as a weekend like we

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have now. Most countries, most groups of people

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worked seven days a week. So I'd like us just

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to have a think about that for a minute because

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you can imagine from their perspective. you'd

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be thinking, well hang on a minute, if we just

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downed halls one day out of a week whilst everybody

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else is working, we're going to fall behind.

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Maybe we won't be as prosperous as everybody

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else will be. And it was revolutionary for them

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to have a day where they didn't work. Isn't the

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truth behind this that you work for six days

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and then you turn your focus to God on that seventh

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day? Yeah, I mean, that's what it's become now.

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But, you know, when God gave this commandment,

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He was literally saying, you can't pick up sticks,

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you can't make food, you can't do anything. Well,

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there are, in certain religions, there is no,

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you're not allowed to turn the light switch on,

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you're not allowed to operate a cooker. It's

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quite impressive, isn't it? The dedication that

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people go to. I worked in a Jewish company for

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a while, and there was somebody who really did

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follow it absolutely to the letter. And they'd

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have to rush home from work on a Friday to turn

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all the lights on. Because if it was the winter

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and it gets dark at four o 'clock, you can't

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do anything. So actually, when God gave this

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commandment, it was a complete non -activity.

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It wasn't just focusing on God. It was you can't

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do anything. And I think it's so interesting

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because this is really a stance of reliance on

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God. This is saying that you're putting your

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trust in God to make you successful because you're

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not working as much as everybody else is working.

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You know, if the rest of the world is working

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seven days and you're working six, but it's 52

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weeks in a year, that's one day a week that everyone

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else has got an advantage over you. I mean, that

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adds up, you know, over the course of a year

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or 10 years, it's a lot, a lot of work that you've

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missed out on. But yet what this was doing is

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it was saying you should put your reliance on

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God to look after you, and it's not a self -reliance

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thing. And I think this is where religion has

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so got it wrapped around their neck because,

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you know, religion says, you've got to work really

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hard. You have to put, you know, I'm a self -made

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man. Look what I've done. You know, I've got

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to keep the scripture. I've got to work at it.

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I've got to do it. And, you know, even the imagery

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of the Sabbath is that you are putting your reliance

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on God. to help you, on God to move you forward

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rather than your own ability to work. It's pretty

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powerful stuff, isn't it? Yeah, hugely. And I

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think, you know, that concept just of itself,

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there's a lot of us that don't really understand

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that, that think, you know, I've got to work

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really hard and there's a balance because it's

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not all just, you know, you can't lay on the

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sofa. You know, God still needs you to do something,

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but there is that rest where you rely on Him

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and that He can be the reason why you're so successful.

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It's not all on your shoulders. Is this a theory

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then? Because I'm struggling to understand this,

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so everyone listening is going to probably struggle

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too. Are we supposed to take that seventh day

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off or...? Are we supposed to focus on God? Are

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we supposed to go to church? Is it a Saturday?

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Is it a Sunday? I'm aware that the Sabbath for

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a lot of the Jewish religion is a Saturday. We

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take the seventh day off, which is the Sunday.

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What's the right rule? Look, first of all, let's

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remember that what we take from the Old Scriptures,

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from the Old Covenant, the Old Promise, now,

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it's not, you don't throw it all out because

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like we've looked at before, Jesus came to fulfill

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the law. So it's not like, oh, it doesn't matter.

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But we take it in the light of the new covenant.

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So when we're looking at the old covenant, when

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we're looking at the rules and the regulations,

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we're looking at through Jesus. Because this

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was before Jesus. One of my favourite scriptures

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this year, Galatians 3 verse 13 says, that we

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might receive the promise of the Spirit through

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faith. So this says really clearly here that

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the curse of the law, that you've got to do this,

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you've got to do that, you know, if you do this,

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then you'll get that. That's done. It's over.

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Right? But what the Old Testament was doing is

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it was showing, they call it like a shadow. So

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they're going, look, this is something that God's

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trying to show you. in the new covenant of some

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principles that's helpful for you, okay? And

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when Jesus was on the earth, he says, John 15

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verse 5, he says, yes, I am the vine and you

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are the branches. Those who remain in me and

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I in them will produce much fruit. For apart

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from me, you can do nothing. And you know, what

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the Sabbath is showing is that there is an element

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of inactivity. There is an element where we put

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our trust and our faith in God. Because without

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Him, we can't do anything. We have to be connected

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to the vine, to the branch, so that we can have

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much fruit. And much fruit is just, you know,

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tangible evidence of God in our lives. I think

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that's a really lovely explanation and I now

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understand it. Great. However, we are told this

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subject is raising a family. So how does that

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fit into raising a family? So I think it's a

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really good question and one of the things that

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I think is so important for us to understand

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is that we need to allow God's rest into our

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homes. It is so important that we teach our children

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that rest is necessary, important, and has a

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place in our home, in our family. But you did

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say rest, so we're talking about the day of rest,

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but we're also saying trust in God at the same

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time. So we obviously want to teach that to our

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children. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And, you know,

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in society now, like the mark of bearing much

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fruit, you know, if you want to put like kind

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of religious phrases on it. You know, society

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now says you bear much fruit by being super,

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super busy. So, you know, when you say to people,

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how are you? Most people go, I'm sorry, brother.

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I'm sorry, brother. Like that's the mark of success.

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But, you know, our little children, this is their

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childhood. This is a time for them to be kids.

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And they have an element of rest with us anyway

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because they're not worried about whether food's

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going to be on the table or not if we're a good

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parent. They're not worried about whether their

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school uniform's going to be washed on a Monday

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because they've got that rest and that trust

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in us. But what we're teaching them is A, the

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reliance on God, and B, a physical rest and relaxation

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that is important for children. Is the word rest,

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does it have multiple meanings at this point?

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For example, rest in the Lord. Yeah, it absolutely

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does because, you know, there's two types of

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rest that I'm talking about here and I'm kind

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of talking about them interchangeably. But one

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type of rest is a physical rest, you know, where

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we put our reliance in God to help us to be successful,

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to grow us, to move us forward. We put our rest

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and our trust in Him. And the other kind of rest

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is a physical rest where we can allow ourselves

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to have downtime and to have holidays and to

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have days where we're not rushing around because

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we're physically reminding ourselves of the rest

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that's inside us. It's a reminder and it's what

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our bodies need. You know, God's made us to need

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sleep, to need rest, to need relaxation. And

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it's that remembrance of we're doing this because

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A, our body needs it, and B, because it's a reminder

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of what's happening on the inside of us that

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we're putting our trust in God. Do you think,

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here in the UK, do you think the children are

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getting enough rest? Are there any stats that

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you can pull up that will give us a bit more

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information on that? So in a UK study by the

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University of Leeds, it says 36 % of primary

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school children age between the ages of 6 and

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11. are getting eight hours of sleep or less

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on a weekday. And they're really supposed to

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be having 10 hours of sleep. So 36 % of primary

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school children are tired. And that's huge. That's

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a lot of kids in that classroom. 10 in a class

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of 30 are knackered. Yeah. The University of

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Leeds says that these figures illustrate that

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the inadequate or poor quality of sleep is very

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common among UK children. And it is associated

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with attention, concentration, learning and mental

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health difficulties. And that's a lack of attention

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and concentration in those areas. Yeah. And you

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know, this is one of the things that my sister

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who runs a nursery, you know, she always says

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that when she's dealing with children who are

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having tantrums or having paddies, you need to

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look at their physical needs first, you know.

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Are they tired? Have they eaten? Deal with the

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physical needs of a child before you start going

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in to correct their behaviour. Because you and

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I know when you've had a few hours sleep, you

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are not firing on all cylinders and you are not

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the best version of yourself. Even adults. you

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know, a professional study in Wales, which was

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of primary school children, found that in 2022,

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the proportion of children who reported getting

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nine or plus hours of sleep had dropped to 68

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% and it was 92 % in 2015. Right, so that statistic

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is saying more children are more tired, is what

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you're saying. Yeah, yeah. You know, society

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is just getting so busy. And we're not really

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prioritizing rest and sleep and relaxation and

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play. You know, our schedules are absolutely

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packed to the rafters. A study that Save the

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Children did in the UK in 2022 said that only

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27 % of children say that they play regularly

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outside. and that's compared with 80 % of adults

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said that they played outside aged between now,

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aged 55 and 64. Yeah, to summarise that basically,

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the parents said they would have played outside

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more than the children play outside now. And

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they're stuck inside on devices probably. Yeah,

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I mean, you never tell if what I've just seen

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on the internet is actually true or not, but

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they were talking about releasing Toy Story.

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Very exciting. And it's all about the toys competition

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with the device. The plot is fighting against

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a tablet. And for us as a society, we are so

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busy. And I was talking to a mum at the school

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drop -off and we were talking about the homework

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that we've been given and we're complaining a

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bit about, oh my gosh. Like, so much, you know,

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you step up a year and homework's huge. And she

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was telling me that she's getting home from her

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kids' activities at nine o 'clock at night. You

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know, and that child's six or seven. You're getting

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home at nine, and then you've got to eat dinner

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and do homework. Like, that kid's not going to

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be going to bed till half past ten. Well, they're

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probably doing too much. Yeah, exactly. And I

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just want to kind of... solidify this concept

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that rest is biblical. So everybody knows this,

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Psalm 23, but let's just think about this for

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a minute. Do you want to read it Gareth? Sure.

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Psalm 23. The Lord is my shepherd. I shall not

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want. He makes me lie down in green pastures.

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He leads me beside still waters. He restores

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my soul. He leads me in paths of righteousness

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for His name's sake. Here we've got a very real

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picture of how Jesus, how God deals with us,

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and He makes us lay down in green pastures. He

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leads us beside still waters. There's that element

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of rest and trusting in God. Psalm 4 verse 8

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says, in peace I will both lay down and sleep

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for you oh Lord make me dwell in safety. Matthew

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11 verses 28 to 30 says, come to me all who labor

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and are heavy laden and I will give you rest.

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Take my yoke upon you and learn from me. For

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I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will

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find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy

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and my burden is light." And as parents, we have

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got responsibility to maintain our family's time,

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to teach our children that sleep, rest, relaxation,

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play, family time is important. And to create

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a culture within our family, because I don't

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know if you will realize this, but we're forever

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creating culture wherever we are. To create a

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culture of it's okay to relax, and it's good

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to rest, and it's important. And just like we

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were talking about how the Jewish people stood

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out from the crowd, because they didn't work

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seven days, they only worked and still prospered.

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So should we as Christians be different from

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the rest of the world, that we're not stressed

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out and we can teach our children to rest like

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that, because that's what shows God's covenant

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with us, that shows that we are His children

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and that we have a good shepherd who looks after

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us and restores our souls. Most of these, this

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discussion has been about rest. Rest being trust,

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but also rest not doing anything. Is there a

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risk that people might take that to the widest

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extreme and just say, well, not going to do anything.

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It's going to lay down all day. I mean, there's

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got to be some scripture in there that says that

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we probably should go to work. Yeah, you know,

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it's so interesting because I think... It's like

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a pendulum, when the pendulum's swinging from

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one side to the other. You've got some people

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way over on the left of the pendulum that really

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don't do much and think that 10 hours, 20 hours

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a week is enough to work. Then you've got other

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people on the opposite side of the pendulum that

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never stop. It's a balance. You want to be in

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the middle of that swing. I heard this great

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thing this week which said, you know, when we're

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talking about this, if this is kind of like soothing

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your soul, like, oh yes, I should be relaxing

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more, it's probably not for you, you're probably

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on the wrong side of the pendulum. If you're

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listening to me and you're thinking, oh gosh,

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yeah, wow, okay, I really do need to rest and

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relax, it's probably, this is the person it's

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for, you're the person I'm talking to. Because

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when we're listening to something, if it's not

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challenging us, we've probably quite established

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in that area. So, Yeah, there's a lot of people

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out there that have this kind of concept of I

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just want to be, you know, almost living a retired

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life and then wondering why they haven't got

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any money. They haven't got any money because

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you haven't worked. 2 Thessalonians 3 verse 10

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says, for even when we were with you, we would

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give you this command, if anyone is not willing

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to work, let him not eat. That's a hard one,

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but it's in the New Testament, it's in the New

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Covenant, and it's saying if you don't work,

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you don't eat. And if you're only working two

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hours a week, two hours a day, then you're not

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going to be eaten very much. So we need to remember

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that, you know, resting in God and allowing time

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of rest, there's got to be a balance in it. Can

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I read my favourite verse? You may read your

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favourite verse. Proverbs 6, verse 6 to 8. She

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prepares her bread in summer and gathers her

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food in harvest. You love that one, don't you?

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You know, and that's the thing, isn't it, that

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God, you know, gave us. the ability to work.

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And even when Adam and Eve were made, God told

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them to look after the garden. You know, they

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had a job to do. They had to look after the animals

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and they had to look after the garden. And all

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of us have been created for a work, for something

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that God wants us to do. And it's about having

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that balance. Can you give us any practical steps

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to make this work in our lives with our families

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whilst we're raising a family? Yeah. First of

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all, I think one of the biggest pieces of advice

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I can give to anybody listening to this is that

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as parents and as adults, we are the ones who

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set our schedules. Yeah, so we need structure,

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don't we? Yeah. In our week. But this sounds

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really silly, right? And I'm saying it slowly

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because so many times when I speak with people,

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it's like they haven't understood that they're

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the problem. It's like that Taylor Swift song,

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it's me, hi, I'm the problem, it's me. So many

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people are like, I have to do this and I have

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to do that and I've got to go here and I've got

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to go there. Who's making you do that? The majority

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of it is you. You've signed up for it. We were

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talking about this week. I've signed up for a

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Bible college course. I'm in my second year.

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I'm working full time. I've got the children.

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I'm going to study that I have to do. Well, who

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signed me up for that? Me. I'm like, I signed

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myself up for it. Yeah, halfway through a marathon,

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you can't give up, can you? You signed up for

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it. You signed up for it, kiddo. So I think it's

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important for us to realise that we have the

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power, right? If we are feeling like our family

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is worn out, if we are seeing those warning signs

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in our children, and warning signs in our children

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look like... being difficult, not doing as they're

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told, not paying attention, zoning out at the

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telly because they're tired, you know, big bags

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around their eyes, you know, flipping out over

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something ridiculous they wouldn't normally flip

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out over. That's a sign of them being tired.

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And we need to look for those warning signs and

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we need to address them as the family and know

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that we are the ones in control of what our week

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is looking like. We fill the diary. We're the

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ones that have said yes, and we're the ones that

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fill our days. We do struggle though with trying

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to please everyone, and we often say yes to things

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that we think, oh yeah, well I just need to say

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yes, but really I meant no. So is there anything

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you can tell me about that? Yeah, so Jesus says

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in Matthew 5 verse 37, he says, but let your

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yes be yes. and your no be no, for whatever is

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more than these is from the evil one." So by

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pleasing people and going, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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I'll be there, it's fine, you end up letting

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people down. And that's just worse, isn't it?

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Yeah. There's a Bible verse that says, be you

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pleasers of God and not men. You know, and so

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many times we can want to be pleasers of men,

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but if we're doing stuff that God hasn't called

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us to do, we don't have the grace to fulfill

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that. So let me just explain that a bit. I have

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two children and a full -time job. That is something

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that God has given me. And I know that my children

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are gifts from Him and I know that my job is

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absolutely a gift from Him. So if I take on a

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second year Bible college course that I've got

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to do multiple assessments for and assignments,

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I have got the grace to do that because it's

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something that God has called me and asked me

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to do. So he gives me the grace to fulfill the

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things he's put on my agenda Well, in fact you

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need to create space something's got to give

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often hasn't it? To make space for something

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new moving in something else has to move out

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Yeah, but if I then say yes to things that God

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hasn't asked me to do I don't have the same amount

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of grace because I'm stepping out of This is

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what he asked me to do and I'm trying to do it

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in my own strength So it's really important that

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when we're looking at our schedules, like you

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said, one in, one out, you say that a lot when

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we buy clothes, you bought clothes, something's

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got to go, you know, when we take on something

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new, or we're planning our family schedules,

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we need to look at the whole week, the whole

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month, and not just say yes to everything, but

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to let our no be no. You know, your no is just

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as valid and good as your yes. Yes and no need

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to be used in equal measures. And this is something

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that I think... I'm going to be a bit controversial

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here, Gareth. And you're welcome to disagree

00:26:30.440 --> 00:26:33.200
with me. But I think a lot of women and a lot

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of mums are predominantly the diary keeper for

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the family. Would you agree or disagree? Yeah,

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we all have diaries. We have to have a shared

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diary, otherwise it's chaos, isn't it? Yeah,

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but in terms of what the kids are doing... It's

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predominantly like most women are the ones that...

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I think it depends on the family. In our scenario,

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yes, it is, but it depends on the family. So,

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and Proverbs 14 verse 1 says, the wise woman

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builds her house, but the foolish one pulls it

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down with her own hands. And I think sometimes

00:27:05.160 --> 00:27:07.940
as moms we can be like... Well, they have to

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do ballet and they have to do football and they

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have to go and do their tuition and they have

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to go swimming. And then before you know it,

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the poor child hasn't got a minute to itself.

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And, you know, that's not wise. It's like pulling

00:27:21.759 --> 00:27:24.660
our own home down by our own hands. You know,

00:27:24.660 --> 00:27:27.539
we need to step back and think, you know, what

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does their week look like? Have they got time

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to rest? I think all of these things are important

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to children. To do something, to do some education,

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some recreational activities, some play, seeing,

00:27:39.519 --> 00:27:42.859
doing social activities, that's great. But ramming

00:27:42.859 --> 00:27:45.460
their diary full, I mean kids having diaries,

00:27:45.579 --> 00:27:48.039
that's one thing, but ramming their diary full

00:27:48.039 --> 00:27:50.920
of activities is just maybe too much. Yeah. And

00:27:50.920 --> 00:27:53.119
we have to be sensitive to that so that we can

00:27:53.119 --> 00:27:55.599
have what we're talking about is rest. Yeah.

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And, you know, time is a family where you can

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rest together. You know, and yes, mum and dad

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might fall asleep on the sofa when we're watching

00:28:02.519 --> 00:28:04.880
a movie that we're not interested in, but it's

00:28:04.880 --> 00:28:07.420
about being together and being close to each

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other. And, you know, I love it when the kids

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come and get in our bed on a Saturday morning

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and they all snuggle down with us. You know,

00:28:14.339 --> 00:28:17.039
it's just that time to be close and to be together

00:28:17.039 --> 00:28:19.339
where we're not get your shoes on, brush your

00:28:19.339 --> 00:28:21.099
teeth, get your hair, where's your bag? Where's

00:28:21.099 --> 00:28:22.279
your shoes? Where's your coat? You know, it's

00:28:22.279 --> 00:28:25.279
not any of that. It's just time for us to relax.

00:28:25.940 --> 00:28:29.710
So my kind of like top tips for helping kids

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rest. So, you know, these are just some ideas

00:28:34.109 --> 00:28:37.289
but having a play day, you know, a day where

00:28:37.289 --> 00:28:40.549
we just play with the toys in the house. Without

00:28:40.549 --> 00:28:45.069
screens. Without screens. But this will mean

00:28:45.069 --> 00:28:48.019
that your house is trashed. because if you do

00:28:48.019 --> 00:28:49.779
it... If you set yourself up for that expectation,

00:28:50.039 --> 00:28:51.960
then it's not a burden to you, is it? No, you've

00:28:51.960 --> 00:28:53.519
just got to know that if you're having a play

00:28:53.519 --> 00:28:56.240
day, all the toys are going to be out and it's

00:28:56.240 --> 00:28:58.079
going to take everybody some time to tidy up

00:28:58.079 --> 00:29:01.660
before bed. But, you know, I find that a real

00:29:01.660 --> 00:29:03.940
challenge because I don't like things being a

00:29:03.940 --> 00:29:06.299
mess. It annoys me, it winds me up. But, you

00:29:06.299 --> 00:29:08.380
know, you've got to let it go because they need

00:29:08.380 --> 00:29:12.420
time to play with their toys. You know, watch

00:29:12.420 --> 00:29:14.839
your appointments in the week and your schedule,

00:29:14.839 --> 00:29:18.680
you know. get yourself a month calendar and look

00:29:18.680 --> 00:29:22.400
at the month as a whole. You go, wow, we're actually

00:29:22.400 --> 00:29:25.880
overly busy. And yeah, we're going to have to

00:29:25.880 --> 00:29:28.480
say no to something. And it's not going to be

00:29:28.480 --> 00:29:30.680
comfortable. But we're the grownups. We're the

00:29:30.680 --> 00:29:33.900
ones who make those decisions, who have the difficult

00:29:33.900 --> 00:29:37.839
conversations. We say to your friend, I know

00:29:37.839 --> 00:29:39.700
that we said we'd do a play date. We're maxed

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out. We're so sorry. I've planned this badly.

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Please forgive me. I need to move it. You know,

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we need to be the grown -ups in it. You know,

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create weekends with nothing booked in. That's

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really hard. That's really hard. Because they're

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the only days that they have available to do

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all of those activities. But you know, I love

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it. When I look at a weekend, I've got nothing

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in the diary. I'm like, oh, this is amazing.

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Apart from going to church on a Sunday morning,

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obviously. Apart from going to church on a Sunday

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morning. But you know, having time where it's

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just, there's not a plan. You know, you just

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take it easy. Let them have a slow morning. and

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allow rest to be part of your language and for

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it to be okay. You know, one of the things that

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I didn't even know about myself, but I struggle

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so much to relax. You know, I think we've been

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doing some jigsaw puzzles, because that's what

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you do, and quite enjoyed them. I never did them

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as a kid, but you and I have been doing them

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together. Oh my goodness, I have had to fight

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so hard not to feel guilty about sitting doing

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a jigsaw puzzle. Because in my head, I have this

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narrative that goes, there's so many other things

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you should be doing right now. Why are you just

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sitting there and doing that? Don't you know

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that there's a pile of washing to be done? And

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one of the things that my family used to say

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to me, if you sat down, we're a very busy house

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when I grew up. But if you sat down and you were

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just kind of reading a book or resting or something,

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you know, people would say to you, you know,

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who do you think you are, Dutch as a thick twist,

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just sitting there doing nothing? You know, you'd

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have that, oh gosh, I'm not allowed to sit down.

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Oh gosh, I can't have a nap in the day. Like,

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nap? What are you talking about, nap? That'd

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be ridiculous. And that's... That's really sad

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because what that does is that teaches that individual

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you're not allowed to rest, you're not allowed

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to sit down, you're not allowed to have social

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time, you're not allowed to enjoy yourself and

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you mustn't sleep. And nobody can live like that

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and have life in abundance. We need to allow

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not only us but our children to relax and to

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rest. Can you give me some examples of how we

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can rest? What things can we do? instead of this

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busy life, can we, you said reading a book is

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really good, maybe doing a jigsaw puzzle, doing

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something quietly, sitting quietly. Could it

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also be a time of reflection? Could it be time

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of meditation perhaps? Could it be taking the

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dog for a walk? Yeah, all of those things. Psalm

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46 verse 10 says, be still and know that I am

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God. And very often we are not still. And I believe

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that it is a real strategy from the enemy to

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keep us go, go, go, go, go, go, go. Well, I imagine

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if you're so distracted with something, with

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noise in your brain, then you don't hear from

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God. Yes, that's a really good point. So part

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of that resting time is actually could be intercession?

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Prayer. Yeah. Chanting to God, yeah. And I think

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one of the things that we have to be so careful

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of is that we've got the telly playing all the

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time, we've got the radio playing all the time,

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we've got the music playing all the time. We're

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not having moments of still, of choir. And I

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think a lot of the time, when we've got something

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inside us that isn't healed, when we've got a

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part of us that is in pain, speaking of someone

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who's walked through grief, You don't want quiet

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because the quiet makes the inner turmoil louder.

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But it's in those times of quiet and peace that

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you look to Jesus to be your Sabbath rest, where

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you look to him and you let him heal your heart.

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And a lot of society doesn't want to live in

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a place of peace because of the craziness that's

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going on in their mind. You know, when they turn

00:33:40.680 --> 00:33:43.470
down the music, they turn down the telly. They

00:33:43.470 --> 00:33:45.769
can hear their own thoughts, and they're not

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helpful, and they hurt, and they're painful.

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But, you know, when we put our trust in God,

00:33:51.630 --> 00:33:54.369
who bore our griefs, who healed our diseases,

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who comforts those that mourn, healed the brokenhearted,

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when we have that, it is that quiet place that

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He comes, He speaks to us, and He heals us. And,

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you know, children, in the light of raising a

00:34:07.710 --> 00:34:10.809
family, you know, children don't really pay much

00:34:10.809 --> 00:34:13.829
attention to things you say. they pay a lot of

00:34:13.829 --> 00:34:17.650
attention to things you do. And if we want to

00:34:17.650 --> 00:34:21.989
demonstrate a life of resting in God, we have

00:34:21.989 --> 00:34:26.309
to demonstrate it, not just talk it. Wow, what

00:34:26.309 --> 00:34:29.030
an incredible chat, in fact. And it's good, and

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I'm pleased that it's ended on a really nice

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note about resting in the Lord. So until we speak

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again... Be kind to yourself. And each other.

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