1<br>00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,280<br>Welcome to Season 2 of What in the World is Dyscalculia.<br><br>2<br>00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:12,640<br>This podcast is presented by EduCalc Learning and hosted by me, Dr. Honora Wall, a<br><br>3<br>00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:19,320<br>Dyscalculia Specialist, researcher, and teacher trainer in this fascinating math related<br><br>4<br>00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:20,800<br>learning disability.<br><br>5<br>00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:28,440<br>I'm very excited to begin Season 2 of the podcast and bring you so much more detailed<br><br>6<br>00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:35,440<br>information this season about Dyscalculia, about the current research in Dyscalculia,<br><br>7<br>00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:40,040<br>and to talk to you about some of the exciting training we have going on at EduCalc<br><br>8<br>00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:41,040<br>Learning.<br><br>9<br>00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:49,040<br>You can visit www.educalclearning.com for more information.<br><br>10<br>00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:54,920<br>The first session of this season, I wanted to start off with something exciting, and I<br><br>11<br>00:00:54,920 --> 00:01:03,200<br>found a really interesting research article that I'm very excited to share with you.<br><br>12<br>00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:13,480<br>This research study was conducted in Germany by Dr. Professor Rainier Heidrich, who was<br><br>13<br>00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:21,480<br>researching plants and was discovering and researching the Venus fly trap.<br><br>14<br>00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:26,480<br>Many of us have seen the Venus fly trap, it's super cute little tiny plant that has<br><br>15<br>00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:31,920<br>the two sides of the leaves that look like a little mouth with little teeth that snap<br><br>16<br>00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:33,240<br>shut.<br><br>17<br>00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:39,080<br>And if you have any trouble with fruit flies or mosquitoes or other insects in your house,<br><br>18<br>00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:43,200<br>you should definitely get yourself a Venus fly trap or something else in that same<br><br>19<br>00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:44,640<br>family like a pitcher plant.<br><br>20<br>00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:46,320<br>They really do help.<br><br>21<br>00:01:46,320 --> 00:01:52,520<br>They're fascinating plants and they're native to a very small part of the world.<br><br>22<br>00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:58,400<br>They're actually only native to swampy areas in North and South Carolina in the United<br><br>23<br>00:01:58,400 --> 00:01:59,400<br>States.<br><br>24<br>00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:00,400<br>That's it.<br><br>25<br>00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:04,000<br>That's the only place is where they naturally grow.<br><br>26<br>00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:08,640<br>So they can be a little hard to understand and to research because it's a pretty small<br><br>27<br>00:02:08,640 --> 00:02:10,280<br>population.<br><br>28<br>00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:19,640<br>They rely on getting their nutrients and extra nutrition in their diet from eating insects.<br><br>29<br>00:02:19,640 --> 00:02:27,560<br>So the question for the research team in Germany wa,s how do Venus fly traps know when they<br><br>30<br>00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:35,600<br>actually have prey and that they should snap shut to catch the prey and begin eating it?<br><br>31<br>00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:41,280<br>Maybe it's a bit of dandelion blowing by, maybe it's a little dust.<br><br>32<br>00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:49,600<br>Maybe it's a larger animal or a child touching the pad and watching the leaf snap shut.<br><br>33<br>00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:56,160<br>So they began doing research and they found there is a strain or mutation in this case<br><br>34<br>00:02:56,160 --> 00:03:00,120<br>of a Venus fly trap that has dyscalculia.<br><br>35<br>00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:05,480<br>Now this was fascinating how in the world could a plant have a math related learning<br><br>36<br>00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:11,640<br>disability and also-- how do I make the Venus fly trap the official plant of EduCalc<br><br>37<br>00:03:11,640 --> 00:03:16,600<br> Learning as fast as possible and get some of these so that I can have a plant<br><br>38<br>00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:21,120<br>that represents the passion of my work.<br><br>39<br>00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,000<br>So I started reading the research.<br><br>40<br>00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:29,560<br>So here's the quick wrap up but you can find more information in a copy of the Current<br><br>41<br>00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:35,840<br>Biology journal or doing any internet search, the article comes up pretty quickly.<br><br>42<br>00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:41,800<br>Put in Venus fly trap plus dyscalculia and the options will pop right up.<br><br>43<br>00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:50,800<br>So the way the Venus fly trap works is it's two mouth pans, so to say, are open and then<br><br>44<br>00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:58,600<br>when they sense a touch-- a contact-- they count that first touch.<br><br>45<br>00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:02,520<br>Now at that point it could just be a bit of dust or something blowing in the air and<br><br>46<br>00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,040<br>it takes a lot of energy for those jaws to clap.<br><br>47<br>00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:11,360<br>Shut and to reopen so the plant needs to conserve that energy.<br><br>48<br>00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:17,280<br>It waits until there's a second touch to determine if this is something permanent and interesting<br><br>49<br>00:04:17,280 --> 00:04:22,200<br>enough to close over and then it snaps shut very quickly.<br><br>50<br>00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:26,480<br>Now at this stage it may or may not be something the Venus fly trap actually wants to<br><br>51<br>00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:34,480<br>eat and it needs to find out if this is food before it starts releasing its digestive<br><br>52<br>00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,480<br>juices.<br><br>53<br>00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:42,680<br>Now an insect trapped in the Venus fly trap will try to escape.<br><br>54<br>00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:49,760<br>So there will be three, four, five touches of those little insect feeder wings and those<br><br>55<br>00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:54,640<br>are the signals to the Venus fly trap that it's time for lunch.<br><br>56<br>00:04:54,640 --> 00:05:01,280<br>Well some Venus fly traps lose their count.<br><br>57<br>00:05:01,280 --> 00:05:08,400<br>They can't track how many touches have happened and when and because they lose count they<br><br>58<br>00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:12,520<br>don't close properly and they don't eat in the same way.<br><br>59<br>00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:17,120<br>Now the plant can still survive because it does get nutrients from other sources but<br><br>60<br>00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:23,880<br>the insects add a lot more nutrients to their diet and are a part of overall health.<br><br>61<br>00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:30,640<br>And in general I don't think any Venus fly traps were harmed using this research study.<br><br>62<br>00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:34,560<br>I'm sure they took very good care of the plants that found a way to make sure they got<br><br>63<br>00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,120<br>all of their nutrition.<br><br>64<br>00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:43,960<br>But it did lead the researchers to have an outside source to kind of track that numeracy<br><br>65<br>00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:50,680<br>and that counting and holding on to counting from one experience or one touch or in the case<br><br>66<br>00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:55,640<br>of students one digit at a time.<br><br>67<br>00:05:55,640 --> 00:06:04,480<br>Now in the Venus fly trap the counting mechanism is related to calcium connection.<br><br>68<br>00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:08,840<br>And that's a little more science than I think any of us are here for in this podcast.<br><br>69<br>00:06:08,840 --> 00:06:14,600<br>But it is very fascinating and if you look up the article they do explain very well their<br><br>70<br>00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:15,600<br>findings.<br><br>71<br>00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:23,520<br>But the synopsis the electrical impulses are tied to calcium connections within the plant.<br><br>72<br>00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:28,080<br>I am quite sure that this does not directly apply to people.<br><br>73<br>00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:32,800<br>If you or your children have dyscalculia please do not try to overload on calcium.<br><br>74<br>00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:39,720<br>There's no connection and no need to do that and would probably lead to its own long-term<br><br>75<br>00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,960<br>problems if you had too much calcium in your diet.<br><br>76<br>00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,400<br>It certainly would not help your dyscalculia.<br><br>77<br>00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:53,520<br>However it's very fascinating to think of numeracy and to think of math and counting<br><br>78<br>00:06:53,520 --> 00:07:01,840<br>existing outside of our classrooms and outside of just humans can be a part of the life<br><br>79<br>00:07:01,840 --> 00:07:09,240<br>experience in all different parts of the universe and the global experience because math<br><br>80<br>00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,480<br>truly is a part of everything.<br><br>81<br>00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:21,080<br>So absolutely the Venus fly trap is now the official mascot from the plant kingdom for<br><br>82<br>00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:22,480<br>educalc learning.<br><br>83<br>00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,920<br>I will be getting a Venus fly trap for my office.<br><br>84<br>00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:31,560<br>I think this is fantastic and if it turns out that my Venus fly trap has dyscalculia I<br><br>85<br>00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:36,880<br>will make sure to find a way to feed it some of the mosquitoes and flies that can plague<br><br>86<br>00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,160<br>my yard and Iowa.<br><br>87<br>00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,440<br>They're very handy plants for that.<br><br>88<br>00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:48,840<br>And it's a great example of how research can add to what we know and add to our discussion<br><br>89<br>00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,560<br>from any field.<br><br>90<br>00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:57,400<br>Certainly math and science have tons of overlap and here's yet another interesting<br><br>91<br>00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:01,200<br>place where they come together.<br><br>92<br>00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:06,440<br>So in our second season we are going to keep talking about dyscalculia.<br><br>93<br>00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:14,680<br>We focus on dyscalculia because this math learning disability is my passion to spread awareness<br><br>94<br>00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:20,840<br>and understanding and help teachers and parents help students who have dyscalculia and<br><br>95<br>00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:26,560<br>also to help people who have dyscalculia understand themselves better and identify their<br><br>96<br>00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:33,560<br>strengths and to realize that a lot of their weaknesses come from systemic failures within<br><br>97<br>00:08:33,560 --> 00:08:38,840<br>the way we present and teach an assess math.<br><br>98<br>00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:44,600<br>Much more than the internal shame and blame that tends to happen.<br><br>99<br>00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:48,640<br>So if you have dyscalculia, if you suspect you have dyscalculia, you've always been<br><br>100<br>00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:52,920<br>bad at math, you think that you can't do math, I want you to know those things are<br><br>101<br>00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:54,240<br>not related.<br><br>102<br>00:08:54,240 --> 00:09:00,120<br>You can have dyscalculia and do very very well at math.<br><br>103<br>00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:01,120<br>I'm not kidding.<br><br>104<br>00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:02,120<br>It happens all the time.<br><br>105<br>00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,640<br>I've seen it with my students.<br><br>106<br>00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:11,360<br>What you need is to have the right intervention and most especially the right accommodations.<br><br>107<br>00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:12,920<br>They're not difficult.<br><br>108<br>00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:18,360<br>We'll be doing sessions where we deep dive into different accommodations and how we can help<br><br>109<br>00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:22,800<br>students of all ages feel more comfortable with math.<br><br>110<br>00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:27,360<br>That's going to be the real focus of our season two.<br><br>111<br>00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:33,360<br>If you have questions or comments or if you'd like to have a special topic addressed in<br><br>112<br>00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,800<br>a future podcast, please reach out to me.<br><br>113<br>00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:46,400<br>You can email me at honora, h-o-n-o-r-a at educalclearning.com.<br><br>114<br>00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:51,680<br>Or you can go to our website, educalclearning.com and reach me through there.<br><br>115<br>00:09:51,680 --> 00:09:59,440<br>You can also find us on LinkedIn and on Facebook and interact with us through social media.<br><br>116<br>00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,680<br>We're hoping to get an Instagram page going.<br><br>117<br>00:10:02,680 --> 00:10:08,160<br>We had one and there's some technical difficulties and that can be it's a whole long<br><br>118<br>00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:09,160<br>thing.<br><br>119<br>00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:14,280<br>But those are some of the goals we're setting for this next year in our podcast and at the<br><br>120<br>00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:18,640<br>company.<br><br>121<br>00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:25,360<br>Our other goal is to increase awareness of our online training courses for teachers, some<br><br>122<br>00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:31,840<br>of which come with CEUs, some of which come with graduate level course credit.<br><br>123<br>00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:37,280<br>Some are some introductory courses so you'll help you become more familiar.<br><br>124<br>00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:42,160<br>Whatever you're looking for, we have a lot of options for training online.<br><br>125<br>00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,760<br>And of course I'm doing a lot of in-person training.<br><br>126<br>00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:52,880<br>You can look at the website and see where we'll be and see if we can connect in person.<br><br>127<br>00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:57,880<br>Also our newest book, Teaching Students with Dyscalculia is live.<br><br>128<br>00:10:57,880 --> 00:10:59,280<br>It is available.<br><br>129<br>00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,160<br>You can find it on our website.<br><br>130<br>00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,000<br>You can find it on amazon.com.<br><br>131<br>00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,240<br>You can find it on amazon UK.<br><br>132<br>00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,800<br>You can find it on Barnes and Noble.com.<br><br>133<br>00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:15,240<br>And you can ask your local bookstores if they are carrying it.<br><br>134<br>00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:20,600<br>We are starting to get picked up in different bookstores around the country.<br><br>135<br>00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:25,080<br>So there's lots of ways we can get some information to you.<br><br>136<br>00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:32,000<br>Our third big goal for the upcoming season and the upcoming year in the company is really<br><br>137<br>00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,360<br>exciting to me.<br><br>138<br>00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:44,240<br>We are putting the final touches on some math courses both for K-12 students and for adults<br><br>139<br>00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:49,760<br>who want to become more comfortable and have math skills that relate to their work or college<br><br>140<br>00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:51,760<br>experiences.<br><br>141<br>00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:57,120<br>And we should roll those out in fall of 2023.<br><br>142<br>00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:02,600<br>At this stage we are looking at having an online component with text with videos with<br><br>143<br>00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:10,480<br>worked examples plus a workbook printed version that will allow home school families to maintain<br><br>144<br>00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:15,760<br>a portfolio of work throughout the year.<br><br>145<br>00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:22,000<br>Paper and pencil tactile experience as well as the interactive online experience.<br><br>146<br>00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:30,920<br>Right now we are planning on rolling out with fourth grade geometry and possibly seventh grade.<br><br>147<br>00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:35,760<br>I really want to get something out for the adult learners as soon as possible because I'm<br><br>148<br>00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:36,760<br>hearing what you are saying.<br><br>149<br>00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:42,440<br>I'm reading your emails, I'm hearing your comments, I know this is an underserved market<br><br>150<br>00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:47,720<br>and you don't want things that are designed for young children because you're not. Adults<br><br>151<br>00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:51,720<br>need materials that are designed for their needs and we are working furiously on those<br><br>152<br>00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:53,120<br>as well.<br><br>153<br>00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,160<br>So we have a lot of things happening at EduCalc Learning.<br><br>154<br>00:12:56,160 --> 00:13:00,680<br>We're going to do them all under the banner of our brand new mascot, the Venus fly<br><br>155<br>00:13:00,680 --> 00:13:06,160<br>trap and we really look forward to continuing this journey with you.<br><br>156<br>00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:10,720<br>So welcome to season two of What in the World is Dyscalculia.<br><br>157<br>00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:12,160<br>I'm Dr. Honora Wall.<br><br>158<br>00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:37,160<br>I thank you for listening and I hope to hear from you soon.<br><br>