1<br>00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,840<br>Hello and welcome to our latest episode of What In The World is Dyscalculia and I swear<br><br>2<br>00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:16,800<br>one of these days I'm going to figure out how to put a music bed at the front of this podcast.<br><br>3<br>00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:23,040<br>If you happen to know how to do that you can email me and let me know and then I can figure<br><br>4<br>00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:24,040<br>that out.<br><br>5<br>00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:29,840<br>I'm Dr. Honora Wall and I'm the host of our podcast which is presented by EduCalc<br><br>6<br>00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:31,360<br> Learning.<br><br>7<br>00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:37,440<br>You can visit educalclearning.com for more information about the products, materials,<br><br>8<br>00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:43,600<br>and training we offer for Dyscalculia, the math learning disability.<br><br>9<br>00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:50,080<br>And we have a lot of information both for teachers, parents and students and we're adding<br><br>10<br>00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:55,160<br>to that website all the time.<br><br>11<br>00:00:55,160 --> 00:01:05,240<br>You can also check out www.thedtri.org for updates on theDyscalculia training and<br><br>12<br>00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,640<br>research institute.<br><br>13<br>00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:14,000<br>But today I want to take this podcast and do a deep dive into one of the accommodations<br><br>14<br>00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:21,800<br>I love to talk about which is separating the topics on an assessment.<br><br>15<br>00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:26,200<br>So this one is going to be definitely geared for the educators who are listening but for<br><br>16<br>00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:31,800<br>parents or students this might help you advocate for this type of accommodation and give<br><br>17<br>00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:38,280<br>you some of the reasons why this is very important for students with the math learning<br><br>18<br>00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:39,280<br>disability.<br><br>19<br>00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:48,360<br>And also for any kind of neurodivergence if students have ADHD or high functioning autism<br><br>20<br>00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:55,040<br>executive function or processing speed issues or sometimes with dysgraphia or dyslexia.<br><br>21<br>00:01:55,040 --> 00:02:01,040<br>There are a number of reasons why we want to break down our assessments into topics specific<br><br>22<br>00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:08,040<br>areas so that our students can really focus on one or two things at a time without being<br><br>23<br>00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,480<br>overwhelmed.<br><br>24<br>00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:17,000<br>When our students get overwhelmed with too much information the brain gets mentally exhausted.<br><br>25<br>00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:21,560<br>That's not just the confusion of having too many things to keep straight.<br><br>26<br>00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:27,160<br>It's literally a drain on our mental energy, on our reserves.<br><br>27<br>00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:32,800<br>It's very difficult and overwhelms our cognitive load and these are the things that make<br><br>28<br>00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,640<br>those little mistakes happen.<br><br>29<br>00:02:35,640 --> 00:02:41,240<br>If you happen to be the kind of grader who's taking half points off here and everywhere,<br><br>30<br>00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:45,280<br>thank you for giving the half points where the work is correct.<br><br>31<br>00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:49,560<br>But if you're having to take off a lot of those half points, that's a sign that your<br><br>32<br>00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:54,080<br>student is either struggling with too much information, just like if you were carrying<br><br>33<br>00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,920<br>too many things at once and you dropped a couple of things.<br><br>34<br>00:02:57,920 --> 00:03:02,240<br>If you would put some of them down, you'd be able to carry them all without dropping<br><br>35<br>00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:03,240<br>any.<br><br>36<br>00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:08,680<br>Where you might have a student who is having issues with visual spatial things and some of the<br><br>37<br>00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:14,160<br>details are getting away from them, but it's a sign that they're becoming overwhelmed<br><br>38<br>00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:18,960<br>when they're making lots of little mistakes.<br><br>39<br>00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:24,680<br>This topic came up for me because I was just working with a student in an algebra<br><br>40<br>00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,840<br>two course.<br><br>41<br>00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:32,000<br>This student does not have a diagnosed learning disability.<br><br>42<br>00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,840<br>She just came to me as a struggling math student.<br><br>43<br>00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:41,640<br>She may have something that is not diagnosed, but I will keep my armchair diagnosis to myself<br><br>44<br>00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:45,240<br>and we'll just talk about this assessment.<br><br>45<br>00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:51,320<br>My student had missed a few days of class and she has to retake the assessment when she<br><br>46<br>00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,160<br>goes back to school.<br><br>47<br>00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:58,920<br>We met last week to talk about the notes from class, go over the information, thinking<br><br>48<br>00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,920<br>that she would take that test the next day.<br><br>49<br>00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:06,960<br>Well, as happens, quite frequently, totally normal.<br><br>50<br>00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:11,320<br>The test got pushed to a different day and luckily for us, we had time to have a<br><br>51<br>00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,320<br>second tutoring session.<br><br>52<br>00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:14,320<br>That was great.<br><br>53<br>00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:19,400<br>We could really cover what we had previously talked about, see how much she remembered,<br><br>54<br>00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:26,880<br>how much still made sense, and focus on the things that were left.<br><br>55<br>00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:35,320<br>Well, this is where an accommodation would have been great because this test covered<br><br>56<br>00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:45,400<br>graphing parabolas in standard form, vertex form, intercept form, converting between<br><br>57<br>00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:53,400<br>standard form, vertex form, vertex form, and intercept form, intercept form, and standard<br><br>58<br>00:04:53,400 --> 00:05:01,400<br>form, and writing the equation of a parabola just having three different points along<br><br>59<br>00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,360<br>that parabola.<br><br>60<br>00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:10,640<br>Now I know that the teacher was thinking, okay, this all makes sense to go on one assessment<br><br>61<br>00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:18,280<br>because all of it involves axis of symmetry, vertex, y-intercept.<br><br>62<br>00:05:18,280 --> 00:05:23,640<br>So having the same work to do seems like it should all go on the same assessment.<br><br>63<br>00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:28,840<br>Now, the issue, of course, in the reason why I advocate for separating assessments by<br><br>64<br>00:05:28,840 --> 00:05:32,360<br>topic, is this.<br><br>65<br>00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:39,800<br>If you teach higher level math, you understand what I just said.<br><br>66<br>00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:47,000<br>If you don't teach higher level math regularly, then you know, no, what I'm talking about,<br><br>67<br>00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,840<br>standard form, vertex form, parabola.<br><br>68<br>00:05:49,840 --> 00:05:54,360<br>By the time I got to axis of symmetry, you probably had some of that math PTSD, your stomach<br><br>69<br>00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,000<br>is tying up in a knot.<br><br>70<br>00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:01,600<br>You're not sure what this stuff was, you had heard of a vertex before, but vertex form<br><br>71<br>00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:05,400<br>and conversion, and you've checked out.<br><br>72<br>00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:12,280<br>So knowing that axis of symmetry, vertex, and y-intercept are your important tools that<br><br>73<br>00:06:12,280 --> 00:06:17,760<br>can be used for all these different problems, only works if you are so familiar with the<br><br>74<br>00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:26,160<br>content that those words make sense, what they look like on a graph makes sense, how<br><br>75<br>00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:31,560<br>you find them in an equation makes sense, and then how you manipulate them makes sense.<br><br>76<br>00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,560<br>As teachers, that makes sense.<br><br>77<br>00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:41,440<br>We know what all of that vocab means and that work is that needs to be done, but our students<br><br>78<br>00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:42,440<br>are learning.<br><br>79<br>00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:51,960<br>I'm going to say that again for the people in the back, our students are learning.<br><br>80<br>00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:57,800<br>One more time, just in case it didn't really sink in, our students do not know.<br><br>81<br>00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:03,920<br>They are just learning this information, they do not have the level of comfort with this<br><br>82<br>00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:05,160<br>vocabulary.<br><br>83<br>00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:13,880<br>They do not have the repeated experience working with this vocabulary with numbers and using<br><br>84<br>00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:15,920<br>these equations.<br><br>85<br>00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:23,080<br>They do not have the repetition to form in their mind, a vision of what in the world I'm<br><br>86<br>00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:24,600<br>talking about.<br><br>87<br>00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:29,960<br>For the listeners who teach higher level math, the minute I set a parabola and axis<br><br>88<br>00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:34,720<br>of symmetry, they were already forming what that looks like in their mind.<br><br>89<br>00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:39,680<br>They were thinking about the letter U, they were thinking about where the vertex goes versus<br><br>90<br>00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:44,920<br>the Y intercept, they knew exactly what that looked like in an equation and they understood<br><br>91<br>00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,240<br>the different forms I was talking about.<br><br>92<br>00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,200<br>That comes from repeated exposure.<br><br>93<br>00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:54,280<br>And by definition, our students do not have that repeated exposure.<br><br>94<br>00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,880<br>That's why they are in our class.<br><br>95<br>00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:57,880<br>That's our job.<br><br>96<br>00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:02,640<br>We are introducing them to these concepts.<br><br>97<br>00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:07,680<br>Now my student was very overwhelmed during both of our sessions.<br><br>98<br>00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:13,800<br>She was getting better, she was getting more comfortable, she still wasn't sure exactly<br><br>99<br>00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:22,240<br>when to use what form, exactly what was different between vertex form or standard form.<br><br>100<br>00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:28,160<br>And then that made her forget things like the negative B instead of just the B value.<br><br>101<br>00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,880<br>And again, if you don't teach higher level math, you don't even know what I'm talking<br><br>102<br>00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:36,680<br>about, which is pretty much how most of the students in her class must have felt because<br><br>103<br>00:08:36,680 --> 00:08:45,360<br>the average test score was a 40 for the students who had taken it on that first day.<br><br>104<br>00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:50,560<br>Now educators, I know sometimes we teach this stuff and we go over it a million times<br><br>105<br>00:08:50,560 --> 00:08:53,480<br>and we can't believe the test scores that come back.<br><br>106<br>00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:58,240<br>And it's very demoralizing, it's upsetting, it's aggravating and we're not sure what<br><br>107<br>00:08:58,240 --> 00:08:59,240<br>happened.<br><br>108<br>00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:03,440<br>And we have a pacing chart we're supposed to keep going so we can hit all our standards<br><br>109<br>00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,440<br>before the end of the year.<br><br>110<br>00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:11,600<br>But if everybody's getting a 40, it's really time to stop and reflect and see what we<br><br>111<br>00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:16,000<br>can do differently so that our class has better performance.<br><br>112<br>00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:25,280<br>Now, there's a million reasons why students might have bombed a test as an entire class.<br><br>113<br>00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:32,080<br>But I will say one potential reason is that there were just too many different topics<br><br>114<br>00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:37,760<br>on this assessment from the student point of view.<br><br>115<br>00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,360<br>The students had a really hard time.<br><br>116<br>00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:46,840<br>Obviously, I'm sure my student is reflective of her classmates feeling comfortable feeling<br><br>117<br>00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:53,400<br>masterful knowing what they were looking at and when to use these different tools.<br><br>118<br>00:09:53,400 --> 00:10:01,040<br>Now I'm talking about an algebra 2 class, but that feeling of confusion and having too many<br><br>119<br>00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:05,720<br>tools and not knowing when to use them or how to use them, that is going to be true<br><br>120<br>00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:11,720<br>for every single one of our classes, even if you are teaching addition and subtraction<br><br>121<br>00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:15,680<br>for you, it is comfortable and familiar.<br><br>122<br>00:10:15,680 --> 00:10:20,120<br>And for your students, it is brand new.<br><br>123<br>00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:27,480<br>So they are learning when you count on and move forward and get to a larger number for<br><br>124<br>00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,080<br>your answer.<br><br>125<br>00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:33,400<br>Versus how do you know when you're working backwards and taking away and getting to a<br><br>126<br>00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,000<br>smaller answer?<br><br>127<br>00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:40,440<br>And if you then have to put that into a word problem and then if you have to do it in<br><br>128<br>00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:44,880<br>this question's adding, this one subtracting, this one is adding, this one's a word problem.<br><br>129<br>00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:48,960<br>Now your brain is bouncing back and forth between all of these different topics.<br><br>130<br>00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:53,480<br>So please don't think that it's only algebra 2 that's confusing.<br><br>131<br>00:10:53,480 --> 00:11:00,200<br>The part that makes it confusing is that it's brand new for students.<br><br>132<br>00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,480<br>And that's just based on the fact that they are students.<br><br>133<br>00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,520<br>They are learning for the first time.<br><br>134<br>00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:11,880<br>If this teacher had given some instruction and some practice and an assessment on<br><br>135<br>00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:17,080<br>graphing from these different forms, she would have had a much better understanding of<br><br>136<br>00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:25,800<br>how her students performed on that task using the skill set for that topic.<br><br>137<br>00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:32,120<br>Then do some teaching instruction practice and an assessment just on converting between<br><br>138<br>00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:33,960<br>these different forms.<br><br>139<br>00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:37,200<br>But not with the graphs added in.<br><br>140<br>00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:42,440<br>That visual spatial versus equation piece is a huge difference.<br><br>141<br>00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,000<br>We're talking about very different parts of the brain.<br><br>142<br>00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:51,400<br>We're throwing in the numerous scene making sure that we're combining our numbers properly.<br><br>143<br>00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:56,480<br>We're throwing in the negative sign, the different letters that are placeholders and<br><br>144<br>00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:57,920<br>our equations.<br><br>145<br>00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:03,480<br>So there's a whole lot of switching between areas of the brain when we're doing that<br><br>146<br>00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:05,040<br>kind of work.<br><br>147<br>00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:10,640<br>Frankly, it was obviously just too much for this class.<br><br>148<br>00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:17,600<br>And now the teacher really does not know which of the students have mastered any part<br><br>149<br>00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,440<br>of this lesson.<br><br>150<br>00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,120<br>She doesn't really know who's good or bad at graphing.<br><br>151<br>00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:29,360<br>She doesn't really know who's good or bad at converting between equation form and how<br><br>152<br>00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,880<br>we write different formats.<br><br>153<br>00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:36,440<br>Because she doesn't know if the students struggled with that or if they struggled with<br><br>154<br>00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:41,080<br>being overwhelmed or did they struggle with paying attention to the details when there were<br><br>155<br>00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:47,640<br>so many other big idea topics to include.<br><br>156<br>00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:51,680<br>That'll be true in middle and elementary school as well.<br><br>157<br>00:12:51,680 --> 00:12:57,680<br>The more topics you have on an assessment and the more you bounce back and forth between<br><br>158<br>00:12:57,680 --> 00:13:02,960<br>question types, the more you are overwhelming cognitive load, you are overwhelming the<br><br>159<br>00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:09,480<br>mental capacity of your students and you are not getting accurate information about<br><br>160<br>00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,720<br>their understanding of the material.<br><br>161<br>00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,400<br>Your data is flawed.<br><br>162<br>00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,800<br>Now we need to use data to drive instruction.<br><br>163<br>00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:22,320<br>I will save that for a separate podcast, but we can use data to drive instruction if we<br><br>164<br>00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,040<br>have bad data.<br><br>165<br>00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:30,960<br>Our results are only as good as the information we're using to analyze results.<br><br>166<br>00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:35,920<br>If you want to know how your students are truly doing, you need to separate those topics.<br><br>167<br>00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:43,120<br>You need to either give one topic per assessment or you at the very least need to separate.<br><br>168<br>00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,640<br>Read a five questions that are just adding.<br><br>169<br>00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:50,840<br>Then three to five questions that are just subtraction.<br><br>170<br>00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:56,680<br>Then three to five questions that are just word problems.<br><br>171<br>00:13:56,680 --> 00:14:01,680<br>And now you can see from those results where your students had mastery and where they<br><br>172<br>00:14:01,680 --> 00:14:03,400<br>did not.<br><br>173<br>00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:09,280<br>Now of course this podcast is about people who in addition to all of everything I just said<br><br>174<br>00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:14,040<br>which is true for every student, they also have a math learning disability that makes<br><br>175<br>00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:18,040<br>their prior to low, lose math information over time.<br><br>176<br>00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:24,000<br>All of that that we've talked about plus having to remember basic facts plus remembering<br><br>177<br>00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:30,200<br>steps and procedures plus remembering out of all these different forms in their head, which<br><br>178<br>00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:37,400<br>one happens to be called vertex form, which one happens to be called standard form and how<br><br>179<br>00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,640<br>do you know the difference?<br><br>180<br>00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:44,640<br>That extra added piece is why the accommodations are crucial.<br><br>181<br>00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:53,480<br>So calculator use, worked example, reference sheet that says vertex form and has that<br><br>182<br>00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:58,160<br>equation, standard form, has that equation so that they can say yes yes yes yes.<br><br>183<br>00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,440<br>Now I know what I'm doing that's how I need to write it.<br><br>184<br>00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:05,040<br>Let me go find out where those numbers come from now.<br><br>185<br>00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,800<br>That's the kind of accommodation we're looking for.<br><br>186<br>00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:11,720<br>Now teachers sometimes you're going to have to make your own assessments if you're going<br><br>187<br>00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:18,960<br>to use this accommodation because you might be using a math program or a textbook or a computer<br><br>188<br>00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:26,160<br>based or online program that is not separating by topic and you're going to have to step<br><br>189<br>00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:27,160<br>in.<br><br>190<br>00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:32,080<br>I hate for us to have to do more work, we're already working hard all day, but truly that's<br><br>191<br>00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:38,160<br>the only way we're going to know where our students are hearing and understanding what<br><br>192<br>00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:42,080<br>we're saying and recalling information in the right way.<br><br>193<br>00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:46,880<br>If you have students who have dyscalculia, you have got to use this accommodation where<br><br>194<br>00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,720<br>you are separating topics on these assessments.<br><br>195<br>00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:57,240<br>It's the only way they're going to know exactly what they need to do and do or do not.<br><br>196<br>00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:04,040<br>If you give them an assessment that is only graphing parabolas in three different forms<br><br>197<br>00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:10,600<br>or only answering word problems or only looking at the slope of a graph, whatever level<br><br>198<br>00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:15,800<br>of math you're teaching, that one topic let them perform that skill and then you will<br><br>199<br>00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:17,920<br>know whether or not they can do that skill.<br><br>200<br>00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:22,560<br>A different assessment has a different topic that way you know whether or not they have<br><br>201<br>00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:23,560<br>that skill.<br><br>202<br>00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:31,920<br>Fixing them all together, very, very bad move outside of the world of dyscalculia.<br><br>203<br>00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:36,760<br>If you're finding that there's a topic that your entire class is bombing, try this out,<br><br>204<br>00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:42,320<br>try separating out your assessments and get some more refined information and then you'll<br><br>205<br>00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,200<br>know where your students really are.<br><br>206<br>00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:53,040<br>So that was a lot of talk about one topic assessments and what are some of the ways our assessments<br><br>207<br>00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:59,360<br>can support or act as a barrier to student success.<br><br>208<br>00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,080<br>I'd like you to try this out.<br><br>209<br>00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:08,880<br>Let me know how it goes in your classroom, email me, hanoa at educalclearning.com, find<br><br>210<br>00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:13,920<br>educalc learning on Facebook or on LinkedIn and message me through there and let me know<br><br>211<br>00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,800<br>what happens in your classroom or with your students.<br><br>212<br>00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:22,200<br>If you're a parent or you are a student with dyscalculia, ask for this as an accommodation<br><br>213<br>00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:29,160<br>that your assessments have limited topics and direct straightforward instruction.<br><br>214<br>00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,960<br>And let's see whether or not that makes a difference.<br><br>215<br>00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:35,480<br>In my experience, it always makes a positive difference.<br><br>216<br>00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,920<br>So let me know how it goes for you.<br><br>217<br>00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:44,400<br>I'm Dr. Honora Wall with educalc learning and I thank you for being a part of the<br><br>218<br>00:17:44,400 --> 00:18:03,960<br>podcast.<br><br>