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This shit ain't nothing to me, man. This is Boxing

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Before Dark. Boxing. Boxing. Boxing. Back. Back.

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Back. Back. Back. Before. Before. Before. Before.

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Boxing. Boxing. Boxing. Boxing Before Dark. This

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is Boxing Before Dark. Here we go. Okay. Holy

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shit, it is Boxing Before Dark. We got an old

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familiar face. Drip. Holy shit. Hey, you boys

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back. Back to talk the fights. How you been?

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Been good, been good. Just busy with life and

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other stuff, but overall good. Can't complain.

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Hopefully you guys have been well. Oh, yeah.

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You know why I've been well? I won the fucking

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ticket lottery. I get to see Inoue and Nakatani

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live in Tokyo Dome. Oh, that's going to be exciting.

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That's super cool. I'm so stoked. Yeah, yeah.

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I've just been, like, buzzing for three days.

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As you should. Buzzing in a more literal sense,

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too. Yeah, yeah. Celebrating a little bit. Yeah,

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yeah, a little. Maybe. A lot of it. Yeah, the

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day I got the tickets, I may or may not have

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gotten out and gotten pretty drunk. Some Italians

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were visiting. We went and sang karaoke until,

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like, 2 a .m. on a Tuesday. Work was a little

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rough on Wednesday. I bet. Man, lottery winner.

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I was so convinced that the system was rigged

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against foreigners. I was, too, because I've

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entered, I think, six of these, and I have won

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zero of them. But I pulled through when it mattered.

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It's fine. Clutch. You won the one that matters.

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Yeah. My buddy from Kanazawa that I haven't seen

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in person for like a year and a half also got

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a ticket. We're going for lunch. We're going

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to the fights. It's going to be great. We're

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not sitting together, but it doesn't matter.

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Yeah, as long as you're there. Yeah. Well, speaking

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of winning the one that matters, Punch. They

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call him Punchy -kun. in Japan. Little Punch

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has a girlfriend and it just so happens that

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the girlfriend is a similar shade to his stuffy.

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I thought that was pretty cute. Yeah, she's very

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orange for that kind of monkey. Very Freudian.

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Oh, Punch the monkey, right? Yeah. Yeah, Little

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Punch. We've been giving updates on the podcast.

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Yeah, the opening bit, it's been Keeping Up With

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Punch. Keeping Up With Chuck Norris. Oh my goodness.

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Have you heard? Yeah. Yeah. Sad times. He was

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definitely up there in age. He was like 86 or

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something. 87. Yeah, he was up there. Kicking

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Hitler's ass now. Merit. Oh, man. Let's get into

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the fight news because we've got some big signings.

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Top Rank has signed a multi -year, non -exclusive

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deal with The Zone. The approximate budget is

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$5 million a year. I've been seeing varying numbers

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between 8 to 12 shows a year. So that's pretty

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good. Not bad. Yeah. Not bad at all. I think

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the, I think Saul was saying in chat that 5 million

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a year does not seem like that much when top

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rank does have a little bit of star power. So

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my thinking is the non -exclusive part is they

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take, like they take Xander Zayas off to pay

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-per -view somewhere. Yeah. Or they, I wouldn't

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be surprised if they're trying to get a deal

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with ESPN or someone else as well. That would

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be interesting. Eight to 12 shows a year on DAZN,

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that's a lot of fighters that you've got to keep

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active. And then you have to also feed ESPN?

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No, I think the non -exclusive would be same

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fight on different networks at the same time.

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I see what you mean. Like, it's airing on ESPN

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and DAZN. Because some people don't have ESPN.

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True. Yeah, I think I got rid of it, actually.

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I don't use it anymore. Once UFC left? I mean,

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yeah, honestly. That was pretty much the reason

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I leave. The Paramount deal, which hasn't been

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a great start so far, but I feel like it was...

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It looks promising, but we'll see how that goes.

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Yeah, like, well, top rank in this situation.

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I don't know. I think it's good. Like, they've

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been in limbo as long as they have. So they have

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a landing spot. So that's good. Well, and the

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zone's more worldwide. I wouldn't be surprised

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if they get, like, a U .S. provider or something.

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Yeah. I see what you mean. Maybe they could do

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a rival Zufa and go on Paramount+. Oh, Zufa.

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Calm Kimo Sabe will get there. So many questions

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and concerns. Top Rank and Matchroom signed a

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multi -year partnership. This isn't very surprising.

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They're on the same network now. I think whatever

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gets cross -promotional fights done. I'm here

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for it. I don't think it's a bad move at all.

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Do you think we'll get another 5v5 sort of thing?

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Because that was kind of fun. I don't think it's

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necessarily Turkey if it's DAZN. They're probably

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going to source their cash from Turkey, unfortunately.

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But I can only hope that this is funded by Ham

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instead. That was good. Top Rank and Matchroom.

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It's strange to me that they signed something

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explicit. Because Golden Boy and Matchroom have

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been doing cross -promotional stuff for a while

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now. Curious what the need for the deal is. I

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wonder if this is sort of just signaling, like,

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we're actually going to work together. Not like

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those fucks over at Zufa. To the boxers more

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than anyone. Like, maybe the fans don't care

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so much, but boxers are like, if I sign with

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top rank, they're going to work with other people

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and it'll be easier to get belts. Yeah, I think

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you're right. It's a good signal. I think to

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the sport at large. Yeah. If nothing else, it's

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a good signal. Speaking of signals, fucking Golden

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Boy re -signs with DAZN. Multi -year deal. I

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haven't seen any specifics on it yet. Just multi

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-year deal. Not surprised with that one. Where

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else are they going to go? Right. What, ESPN?

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Yeah. Golden Boy's on their last legs, really.

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Like, they're losing everybody. Who do they really

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have? Just what, Garcia? Virgil. Virgil. Virgil

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and Garcia? Yeah, that's about it. Doesn't Virgil

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want out? Yes. He's trying. He's trying to get

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out. So then, really, all they have is Garcia.

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Who has also made efforts to leave before. They're

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in shambles, but that's a dumb problem. Yeah,

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if anybody needs a partnership deal, it's Goldenboy.

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Yeah. But all those guys being on DAZN should

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make cross -platform or cross -promoter fights

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easier. Yeah, definitely. Well, making cross

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-promotional fights, you know who's not doing

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that? Zufa Boxing. They've signed a multi -year

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deal with Sky Sports. Uh, yeah. I don't have

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a lot to say on this one. Did we ever... Did

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we get an update on the IBF and Opitaya? I haven't

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heard anything. I wasn't going to hear that.

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I haven't either. It just kind of disappeared.

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So I guess they didn't strip them. But... It's

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just kind of weird, though, because... That's

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the whole thing that Dana was complaining about.

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It's like all these different belts and he's

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just kind of playing into it now by letting Jai,

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I guess, do that. Does that make sense? Like,

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cuck all his belts and the Zufa belts. Like,

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alright, well, now which side of the corner do

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you want? Precisely. Yeah, the whole thing with

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Zufa was to be exclusive. One belt like the UFC

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does. But you're letting, again, Jai have the

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IVF or whatever it is. Are they going to strip

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him? Are they not? And if he does get stripped,

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can he really complain? It's almost like, hey,

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dude, you knew what you were signing up for.

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I don't think Opataya had any fucking idea. I

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feel like that's just a fail on his team's part,

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then. I think his team knew. But I don't think

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Jai did. Everybody knew the whole point of Zufa

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was to have just one belt scenario type thing.

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If Jai's team didn't inform him, that's... Terrible.

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Yeah, I really think he just got scammed. Like,

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are they paying him well? Word on the street

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is that Zufa is paying him better than he was

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getting paid before. But not well. It's not saying

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a lot. Yeah, it's a low bar to get over. I mean,

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I guess, like, making more money and having easier

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fights can't really beat that, right? Can crushing.

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Unless you don't... If you don't care about the

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belts, but Jai clearly cares about the belts.

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Like, that rant he went on at the end of that

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last fight. That's all he cares. But it's like,

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you can't rant, bro. You signed up for this.

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Yeah, I agree. I don't... Either his team failed

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him, or somebody failed him. Somebody just outright

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failed Jai with that. I mean, I don't know how

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long his Zufa contract's for or how many fight

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deals it's for, but well, you're stuck with him

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now. Yeah. The whole Zufa thing is just so odd

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to me, but we'll get into that. Yes. Moving on,

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Armando Resendiz is going to be fighting Jaime

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Mugia on the Benavidez -Zurdo undercard. I think

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it's going to be the co -main. So that's cool.

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That is. Sam Noakes, just a little FYI for the

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masses, the huddled masses that have been awaiting

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news on Sam Noakes. He's going to be on the next

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top tier promotions card on DAZN. So that's fun.

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I think that might be the biggest name they've

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gotten to date. Sam Noakes? Yeah. That's not

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saying a lot. I know. Are those top tier? Yes.

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Yeah, I haven't heard of them. Who the hell is

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top tier promotions? They're on DAZN. They usually

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run on Sundays. Oh, they're a UK promotion. Yes.

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They're matchmakers, Allie Drew. I sat next to

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her at an event once. She's very pretty. All

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right. Yeah, it's great. Great storytelling.

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Thanks. Go me. David Allen will be headlining

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a Queensberry card against a quote, top 15 opponent.

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Nice. David Allen, see what you can do, Mr. White

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Rhino. That's not saying a lot. Top 15 in this

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heavyweight division? Yeah, yeah. If it's not

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like top five, it's probably ass. I can't even

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imagine. Who's the top 10 heavyweights in boxing

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right now? But this is exactly the plan he was

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talking about after his last fight. Fight a decent

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opponent and then, like, a cash -out fight against

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Zhang. That's right. That is the roadmap that

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he laid out. Yeah. So. I don't know. I like seeing

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Dave Allen fight just because he's going to die

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when he quits. Like, his lifestyle sucks. Could

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it be Jerry Anderson? Could that be it? Oh, that's

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right. He's about to sign with them. I forgot

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to put that in the notes. Because top 15 means

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anyone from 1 through 15, which is kind of scary.

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So, I mean, it could be Anderson. Could it be

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a Coley? I don't think so, actually. Is a Coley

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with Queensberry? I don't know who Coley's with.

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I do my best to not pay attention to that man.

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Yeah, no, me either. He's boring as fuck. Right.

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If I had to assume. a few names. Just a few from

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heavyweight. Who Mr. Allen could be fighting

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next? It's either Anderson, Bacoli, or Zhang.

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Bacoli's busy. He has a fight coming up. Okay,

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so not Bacoli. Zhang, maybe? Oh, Bacoli. I thought

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you said O 'Coli, like Lawrence O 'Coli. No,

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no, no. Bacoli, like Martin. Yeah, Martin Bacoli.

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Okay, that... David Allen's probably going to

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get fucking slimed if he fights Bacoli. Well,

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really, if he fights anyone in the top 15, he's

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probably getting slimed, if we're going to be

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honest. Yeah, you're right. Oh, actually, I don't

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know. I'd give him a chance against Anderson.

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Anderson has a lot of quit in him. Yeah. He doesn't

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have that dog in him. He has that cat. Anderson's

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got a lot of quit in him. I could see Allen taking

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that fight and probably winning. Lawrence Okoli

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is with Queensberry. Maybe they give David Allen

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an extended camp so that he doesn't come in as

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a flubby... Fucking 340 pounds or whatever he

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was last fight. Yeah, exactly. I mean, Okoli's

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going to come in looking like shit. So David

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Allen just has to look less shit by comparison.

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And that's a win. Is this going to be a win?

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Kell Brook, his April 11th return has been postponed.

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Kell Brook. Yeah. That Kell Brook. Yeah. Broken

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eyes, Kell Brook. That's the one. He was going

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to make his return April 11th in Dubai. That

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has been postponed for safety reasons. Who's

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he going to fight? His eye doctor? I think it's

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a local kid. but I don't really know. The fall

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from grace is just amazing. Yeah, there's no

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reason for Kell Brook to come back. No, not at

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all. Don't get me wrong. I like Kell Brook, but

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why? What are you trying to prove? Money. That's

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it. That's got to be it. How much is he really

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getting paid for a local kid? Good question.

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I imagine the Emiratis would pay him nicely,

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though. Didn't he get paid like a metric ton

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for the Amir Khan fight a couple years back?

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That was such a shit fight. Shit fight, but what

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were those purses looking like? I'm curious.

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Kell Brook, at least three million. At least

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three mil? Yeah, when they fight 2022, he blew

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through three million in four years. Extended

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holidays in fancy resorts or villas. Ebony bridges

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demanding nice outings. Is that who he's seeing?

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Yes. She's got money too. There's just no way.

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What is he doing, man? I mean, if Mayweather

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can go broke, anybody can go broke. Yeah, I guess

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that's true. I just don't want to see a Broken

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Orbital's Kell Brook beat up some teenager. It

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just doesn't do it for me. Or get beat up by

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some teenager. Or get beat up by a teenager,

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yeah. How old is this man now? What would be

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more pathetic? For him to beat up some 19 -year

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-old boy? Or for a 19 -year -old boy to whoop

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his ass? Getting your ass whooped is always worse.

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Yeah, getting your ass whooped. like like he

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can beat up a 19 year old prospect if people

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can be like ah like you know he's a gatekeeper

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who still who still got it but if he gets by

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a 19 year old then it's like damn dog it's time

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to put them up put them back up and don't put

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them back down yeah stop stop coming back bro

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yeah that's like wilder stop it man leave it

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alone Well, speaking of coming back, Bam is making

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his plans to return to the ring. It's looking

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like it's going to be in Phoenix in June. Fucking

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goddamn right I'm going to be there. Right now,

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people keep saying in chat, in Discord, they're

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saying, like, why is Bam really so focused on

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Undisputed? What does that even matter? We all

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know he's the best super flyweight, right? And

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while that's true, I don't know, it's just Bam's

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goal. Just having spoken to the man directly

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about it, what he said was he doesn't like being

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overlooked in pound -for -pound considerations

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because the people that are put ahead of him

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all have the undisputed accolade, and he doesn't.

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That makes sense. Yeah. Well, and, like, history

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might forget. how much better Bam was. And people

00:19:39.839 --> 00:19:42.579
in 20 years will be like, well, he was never

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undisputed. He couldn't have been that good,

00:19:45.960 --> 00:19:48.519
you know? Right, because look at these other

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guys that did go undisputed, so. Yeah. I guess

00:19:53.339 --> 00:19:57.319
he wants to just cement his legacy. Yeah. Because

00:19:57.319 --> 00:20:00.460
it's Willie Baldo's got that last belt, right?

00:20:00.579 --> 00:20:02.779
Willie Baldo, and he has to fight his mandatory

00:20:02.779 --> 00:20:07.619
Andrew Maloney. which is coming up soon. Such

00:20:07.619 --> 00:20:12.900
a fucking waste of time. IBF gonna IBF. So the

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idea, at least Eddie Hearn has been saying he

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wants Bam to go up to 118. Fight one of the title

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holders there. I think they're aiming at the

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WBA guy. I think his name's Antonio Vargas. I

00:20:28.140 --> 00:20:30.720
don't even know who's in the 118 division. Yeah,

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it's Antonio Vargas right now. Because they're

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fucking over my boy again. I was trying to think

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of a burger pun. I don't want to say a fight

00:20:42.470 --> 00:20:50.750
stab at all. He would get wrecked, but... So,

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does... What else could he do? Take one of the

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mandatories for his other belts? Or... Is 118

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get a belt in the third division? Is that the

00:21:03.150 --> 00:21:06.569
better move? I say move up to phantom white.

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Go back for the last belt. Yeah. Up and down

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at those little weight classes is hard. I don't

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like when people go up and back down. It almost

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never works. I'm sure Bam can do it. He's still

00:21:28.349 --> 00:21:32.029
young. I'm sure you can handle it, but... He's

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a small frame guy. You definitely handle it.

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Last thing. Boots, Xander, Zaius are in preliminary

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talks. With top rank now on DAZN, this is going

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to be very easy to get done. Boots versus Xander,

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Zaius. What? Does Boots just school him the whole

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time? Does he stop him? I don't think he stops

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him. I don't think he stops him. I mean, Xander

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Zayas is like no slouch, but I don't think he's...

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He's not on Boots' level. Yeah. Yeah, I don't...

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Zayas has been pulling off wins I didn't think

00:22:18.019 --> 00:22:21.359
he'd pull off. Yeah, again, he's just no slouch,

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but I think he's just too young to be experienced.

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Yeah, but I like that he's taking the fight.

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Yes. Yeah, for sure. I like he's taking it. Like,

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challenging himself. I mean, now, if he wins,

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if he wins that fight, you know people are going

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to bully Boots. Oh my god, so badly. He will

00:22:50.539 --> 00:22:55.160
never recover. Oh my god, it'd be terrible. Yeah.

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Is that frame -mocking? Is that what the kids

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are saying these days? I just call it bullying.

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I've been trying to think of the tagline for

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this one. Now, you would think with Zayas being

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the unified champion that his name comes first

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in the promotional materials. So would it be

00:23:21.559 --> 00:23:26.289
Zootz or Booyahs? Zootz. Zootz sounds better.

00:23:26.450 --> 00:23:28.950
Zootz does sound better. Zootz does sound better.

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We gotta get Saul with his suits. Man, I... I

00:23:36.089 --> 00:23:38.289
don't know, man. I mean, Boots is probably gonna

00:23:38.289 --> 00:23:42.609
win, don't get me wrong. But man, if he loses

00:23:42.609 --> 00:23:47.269
to Xander Zayas, I don't know, tell him. Godspeed.

00:23:48.349 --> 00:23:53.400
The running joke in Discord right now is... X

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happens before Virgil gets a belt. Doesn't matter

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how obscure the thing is. Like Chuck Norris dies

00:24:01.500 --> 00:24:07.359
before Virgil gets a belt? There's a member that

00:24:07.359 --> 00:24:11.480
competed in the Golden Gloves Masters tournament.

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And he won his bracket. And so it was like...

00:24:17.390 --> 00:24:21.190
this user got a belt before Virgil did. That's

00:24:21.190 --> 00:24:24.210
so funny. So it would be boots is washed before

00:24:24.210 --> 00:24:28.849
Virgil gets a belt. Nice. I mean, it's a possibility.

00:24:29.069 --> 00:24:32.730
It's possible. What if it's like a close decision?

00:24:32.910 --> 00:24:36.690
Would that make it better? I don't think so.

00:24:36.710 --> 00:24:40.470
I think it might make it worse, actually. Why

00:24:40.470 --> 00:24:42.450
would that be worse than getting... Well, no,

00:24:42.450 --> 00:24:44.529
actually, no. No, I lie. Sorry. It wouldn't be

00:24:44.529 --> 00:24:46.130
worse. But no, it still wouldn't be great either.

00:24:46.619 --> 00:24:48.720
No, of course not. Losing to Zayas would be,

00:24:48.779 --> 00:24:52.339
like you said, it would be next to impossible

00:24:52.339 --> 00:24:56.759
to come back from that. Yeah. There's just nothing

00:24:56.759 --> 00:24:59.700
good that comes out of it, no matter how... If

00:24:59.700 --> 00:25:03.700
Boots were to lose, no matter how he loses, it's

00:25:03.700 --> 00:25:07.220
just not a good look regardless. But also, if

00:25:07.220 --> 00:25:10.119
Boots, which he will, if Boots beats Xander,

00:25:10.339 --> 00:25:12.960
and it's like a back and forth, like a struggle

00:25:12.960 --> 00:25:15.220
bus, that's not a good look either. It's like,

00:25:15.220 --> 00:25:19.980
you won! But it didn't look great. It's kind

00:25:19.980 --> 00:25:23.759
of like when we watched Crawford versus Madrimov.

00:25:23.880 --> 00:25:26.880
We're like, eh, you won. But they don't look

00:25:26.880 --> 00:25:29.700
too good. Not the best. We expected more. Yeah.

00:25:29.740 --> 00:25:31.680
Yeah. And I left a lot of questions. So, like,

00:25:31.700 --> 00:25:35.380
if Boots beats Sander like that, it's not great

00:25:35.380 --> 00:25:38.240
either. He has to, like, really, like, actually

00:25:38.240 --> 00:25:43.910
beat him. Like, put on a show. Is that... Aura

00:25:43.910 --> 00:25:46.890
farming? Is that what the kids call it? I'm really

00:25:46.890 --> 00:25:49.849
trying to... I think that's what old people like

00:25:49.849 --> 00:25:54.450
us call it. I'm trying to do my best to just

00:25:54.450 --> 00:26:00.210
fuck up this terminology. To get rid of any young

00:26:00.210 --> 00:26:04.609
listeners we have. Yeah. Let's see. Anything

00:26:04.609 --> 00:26:07.220
more for the news? What do you got? Yeah, I was

00:26:07.220 --> 00:26:08.920
going to say, I know that's the last thing you

00:26:08.920 --> 00:26:11.940
had, but I just wanted to mention the PSA about

00:26:11.940 --> 00:26:16.279
Tommy Hearns. Oh, yeah. So last week we talked

00:26:16.279 --> 00:26:19.559
about how he was putting conservatorship, his

00:26:19.559 --> 00:26:24.619
sons, in charge. The son came out and said, don't

00:26:24.619 --> 00:26:27.660
donate money to any fundraisers that have been

00:26:27.660 --> 00:26:30.740
put up online. There was a GoFundMe and there

00:26:30.740 --> 00:26:33.960
might be more. They are put up by family members,

00:26:34.079 --> 00:26:36.460
but Tommy's not getting any of the money. The

00:26:36.460 --> 00:26:39.839
family members are just pocketing it. So he's

00:26:39.839 --> 00:26:43.240
asked Tommy's fans to not donate to any of those.

00:26:44.980 --> 00:26:49.900
Which is terrible. That you even have to say

00:26:49.900 --> 00:26:53.180
it. God, it's so fucked up. Yeah, I know people

00:26:53.180 --> 00:26:55.559
want to help Tommy Hearns, but apparently any

00:26:55.559 --> 00:26:58.740
of those GoFundMes and Kickstarter, well, not

00:26:58.740 --> 00:27:00.400
Kickstarter, but you know what I mean. Those

00:27:00.400 --> 00:27:04.180
online things, he's not getting the money. Save

00:27:04.180 --> 00:27:10.079
your money, don't give it to his probably awful

00:27:10.079 --> 00:27:14.640
daughter. It seems to be that she's the one putting

00:27:14.640 --> 00:27:22.130
them up. that's crazy fucking terrible yeah yeah

00:27:22.130 --> 00:27:24.529
oh actually wait i do have some news also that

00:27:24.529 --> 00:27:26.109
i saw this morning or maybe it was last night

00:27:26.109 --> 00:27:28.109
i don't remember i'm sure you guys saw it too

00:27:28.109 --> 00:27:33.029
but did you guys see uh john fury's rant how

00:27:33.029 --> 00:27:35.450
he like quote unquote separated from tyson fury

00:27:35.450 --> 00:27:39.069
he's like no longer no like so i'll give like

00:27:39.069 --> 00:27:40.710
a synopsis real quick it's actually the dumbest

00:27:40.710 --> 00:27:44.349
thing in the world um I guess John Fury's not

00:27:44.349 --> 00:27:46.849
going to be in this camp or maybe camps moving

00:27:46.849 --> 00:27:48.009
forward. I don't know if you want to correct

00:27:48.009 --> 00:27:51.490
me on that, Leo. But apparently, yeah, he's not

00:27:51.490 --> 00:27:54.089
in this Mac Madoff camp. He's not in this camp.

00:27:54.230 --> 00:27:58.670
And he's saying that this, like, ruined his and

00:27:58.670 --> 00:28:01.109
Tyson's, like, relationship. And he's, like,

00:28:01.150 --> 00:28:04.170
not, like, disowning him, but, like, I guess

00:28:04.170 --> 00:28:05.789
for lack of better words, disowning him, essentially.

00:28:08.650 --> 00:28:10.890
Why? Because he's fighting Mac Madoff and he

00:28:10.890 --> 00:28:13.509
doesn't want him to? Because he's not... Because

00:28:13.509 --> 00:28:15.069
Tyson didn't want him in his training camp for

00:28:15.069 --> 00:28:20.750
this one. Oh, so Tyson more disowned his father.

00:28:21.309 --> 00:28:25.829
I don't know if he... Disassociating... Disassociating

00:28:25.829 --> 00:28:28.450
him from the training camp? No, no. We have to

00:28:28.450 --> 00:28:31.869
be very exaggerating for clicks. Oh, fair enough.

00:28:32.410 --> 00:28:38.150
Clip that. Tyson Fury disowned Big John. Yeah,

00:28:38.170 --> 00:28:40.150
and I guess Big John is like going on a rant

00:28:40.150 --> 00:28:42.460
now over the media saying that like... him and

00:28:42.460 --> 00:28:45.059
his son's relationship is like tarnished you

00:28:45.059 --> 00:28:48.480
know never be the same yeah never be the same

00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:51.319
it's almost like the eubank senior and i was

00:28:51.319 --> 00:28:54.180
just just gonna say do you think it's a eubank

00:28:54.180 --> 00:28:57.480
thing where it's all just fake for engagement

00:28:57.480 --> 00:29:01.319
probably yeah i mean the furies let's be honest

00:29:01.319 --> 00:29:06.319
are odd people yeah i i love test and fury he's

00:29:06.319 --> 00:29:09.559
a character at one point he was a He's fun to

00:29:09.559 --> 00:29:10.940
watch. I mean, he still is fun to watch boxing,

00:29:11.000 --> 00:29:12.519
but at one point, you know, he was actually,

00:29:12.579 --> 00:29:16.200
like, really pretty good. But, man, that family

00:29:16.200 --> 00:29:19.640
is just full of fucking characters. Also, the

00:29:19.640 --> 00:29:24.140
timing is because they're with a new season of,

00:29:24.140 --> 00:29:26.099
you know, Keeping Up with the Furies is coming

00:29:26.099 --> 00:29:28.240
out soon, too, so this all seems very, like,

00:29:28.240 --> 00:29:30.500
timed properly. Like, season two of his show

00:29:30.500 --> 00:29:32.339
is coming out on Netflix. His fight's coming

00:29:32.339 --> 00:29:35.420
up. John Fury's going on a tangent. All of a

00:29:35.420 --> 00:29:39.549
sudden, it's... Good marketing. Is John Fury

00:29:39.549 --> 00:29:43.730
going to be in the metaphorical cut chair of

00:29:43.730 --> 00:29:50.670
the new TV season? Probably. But I also did see

00:29:50.670 --> 00:29:52.869
some things that John Fury was saying. Like he

00:29:52.869 --> 00:29:57.170
said, Deontay Wilder broke Tyson Fury, and he's

00:29:57.170 --> 00:30:00.210
never been the same since those fights. What?

00:30:01.210 --> 00:30:04.549
I don't know. I mean, maybe. Those were hard

00:30:04.549 --> 00:30:09.640
fights, so maybe. Yeah, Wilder fucking blasted

00:30:09.640 --> 00:30:11.799
him quite a few times. Yeah, I mean, the second

00:30:11.799 --> 00:30:13.660
fight, Wilder didn't do much, but the first fight

00:30:13.660 --> 00:30:14.960
and the third fight, I mean, the third fight,

00:30:15.039 --> 00:30:17.900
Wilder, like, he beat the brakes off him a little

00:30:17.900 --> 00:30:22.420
bit. But also, so did Nagano. Nagano dropped

00:30:22.420 --> 00:30:25.539
him, kind of beat the brakes off him. Yeah, coming

00:30:25.539 --> 00:30:28.859
off of a long retirement, didn't take camp seriously,

00:30:29.079 --> 00:30:32.759
and a dude known for having fucking nuclear missiles

00:30:32.759 --> 00:30:37.799
in his hands. He may not be a boxer, he's still

00:30:37.799 --> 00:30:40.400
a fucking fighter, man. You gotta take this seriously.

00:30:41.500 --> 00:30:44.839
Tyson getting dropped and going to distance with

00:30:44.839 --> 00:30:48.819
Nagano, and then AJ slamming Nagano in two rounds

00:30:48.819 --> 00:30:51.779
probably didn't look good for him either. But

00:30:51.779 --> 00:30:53.539
it also didn't help that Usyk almost knocked

00:30:53.539 --> 00:30:57.220
Fury out in their first fight, so I don't know

00:30:57.220 --> 00:31:00.380
if maybe Wilder broke him particularly, but I

00:31:00.380 --> 00:31:02.619
think just the recent events of his career maybe

00:31:02.619 --> 00:31:08.039
have broken him. Well... Any more news? Let's

00:31:08.039 --> 00:31:12.319
check Reddit. I don't know if you might have

00:31:12.319 --> 00:31:15.559
gone over this on the UFC one, but the White

00:31:15.559 --> 00:31:17.680
House card, all the feedback on that one. We

00:31:17.680 --> 00:31:21.599
did. We did go over it. You got anything you

00:31:21.599 --> 00:31:24.619
want to throw on it? Pepper on a little bit.

00:31:24.759 --> 00:31:27.740
That card fucking sucks. I don't care what anyone

00:31:27.740 --> 00:31:32.210
says. Cards. I mean. If you want to defend that

00:31:32.210 --> 00:31:33.809
card, if anyone wants to defend that card, by

00:31:33.809 --> 00:31:35.329
all means, go for it. But you can't tell me that

00:31:35.329 --> 00:31:37.150
shit's not trash. After all the hype they gave

00:31:37.150 --> 00:31:42.490
it, terrible. That's where I'll leave it. All

00:31:42.490 --> 00:31:44.390
right. I'm going to put in some notes here. Let's

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March 13th, ProBox TV. In Kissimmee, Florida.

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I was unimpressed with the Valle brothers. I

00:35:48.360 --> 00:35:52.559
expected better. I know that they're Probox in

00:35:52.559 --> 00:35:58.139
-house guys. So they're going to get the hype,

00:35:58.139 --> 00:36:01.780
the media push. But still, for how much Probox

00:36:01.780 --> 00:36:03.960
hypes them up, I don't feel like they really

00:36:03.960 --> 00:36:09.239
lived up to it. You know what did live up to

00:36:09.239 --> 00:36:13.719
it? Najee Lopez stops Manuel Gallegos in eight.

00:36:15.219 --> 00:36:18.880
What a fight. Hell of a fight. If you haven't

00:36:18.880 --> 00:36:22.320
seen it, go watch it. I'm going to go watch it

00:36:22.320 --> 00:36:25.199
again. It's so good. I have watched it again.

00:36:26.920 --> 00:36:31.059
Knockdowns on both sides. Just high action. Blood

00:36:31.059 --> 00:36:37.210
everywhere. Yeah. No, it was great. Gallegos

00:36:37.210 --> 00:36:39.909
is pretty tough, too. He was taking some bombs.

00:36:40.610 --> 00:36:46.469
I was surprised that he never... I thought there

00:36:46.469 --> 00:36:49.289
would have been more knockdowns with how cleanly

00:36:49.289 --> 00:36:53.369
Gallegos was getting hit. Yeah, no, he was eating

00:36:53.369 --> 00:36:59.269
some big punches. And it was the 7th, right?

00:36:59.449 --> 00:37:02.809
Najee had him hurt. And then Gallegos came back

00:37:02.809 --> 00:37:08.510
and knocked Najee down. Yeah. Yeah, that's right.

00:37:08.730 --> 00:37:10.929
Gallegos looked like he was out on his feet.

00:37:11.269 --> 00:37:15.230
Like, completely, like, punch drunk, just out

00:37:15.230 --> 00:37:17.409
of it. I didn't know how he survived it. And

00:37:17.409 --> 00:37:21.449
Nagi came in to finish it and, you know, was

00:37:21.449 --> 00:37:24.150
a little not careful enough. And Gallegos caught

00:37:24.150 --> 00:37:27.349
him real good. Like, that wasn't a flash knockdown.

00:37:27.429 --> 00:37:31.289
That was a real knockdown. Yes. Isn't that what

00:37:31.289 --> 00:37:34.530
the first knockdown was? A bit flashy? Flash

00:37:34.530 --> 00:37:41.130
-ish? I think. Yeah, yeah. Well, it was early

00:37:41.130 --> 00:37:43.510
in the fight. That was like the second round?

00:37:43.690 --> 00:37:48.570
No, second round was the head clash. I'm looking

00:37:48.570 --> 00:37:51.849
at... They cut Najee. Lopez down in round seven.

00:37:52.250 --> 00:37:55.070
That's all that's listed, though. That's weird.

00:37:55.590 --> 00:37:58.889
Oh, did they not? It was... Yeah, they didn't

00:37:58.889 --> 00:38:03.170
count it. Oh, no, that was the head clash. That's

00:38:03.170 --> 00:38:05.610
right. In the second round, there was a head

00:38:05.610 --> 00:38:09.429
clash, and Gallegos did land a punch as Najee

00:38:09.429 --> 00:38:11.889
was going down, but the ref did a really good

00:38:11.889 --> 00:38:15.130
job and called it a head clash, didn't call it

00:38:15.130 --> 00:38:21.429
a knockdown. Man, this is an instance, I like

00:38:21.429 --> 00:38:26.130
to call it victory and defeat. Gallegos put his

00:38:26.130 --> 00:38:30.780
name out there, put on a hell of a show. Pauly

00:38:30.780 --> 00:38:32.860
and Chris were saying, yeah, we're definitely

00:38:32.860 --> 00:38:35.860
going to be having him back. He'll be back on

00:38:35.860 --> 00:38:39.019
Pro Box, and I'll be watching. Hell yeah. Yeah.

00:38:40.059 --> 00:38:43.820
Man, another chapter in the Puerto Rico -Mexico

00:38:43.820 --> 00:38:53.380
rivalry. Moving to Saturday, March 14th. Just

00:38:53.380 --> 00:38:55.739
breezing over this one really quickly. Fucking

00:38:55.739 --> 00:39:00.800
Anthony Caccacci. gets the WBA 130 title off

00:39:00.800 --> 00:39:07.320
of Jazza Dickens. Josh's favorite Brit slayer

00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:12.159
continues to rack up the wins. Kikachi's a Brit.

00:39:12.420 --> 00:39:15.719
The whole Irish thing is just marketing. What?

00:39:17.800 --> 00:39:21.559
That's interesting. Anthony Kikachi? He's Italian.

00:39:22.340 --> 00:39:24.400
I don't know that. I always thought he was straight

00:39:24.400 --> 00:39:31.760
Irish. Oh. Don't fool me. Well, I mean, his parents

00:39:31.760 --> 00:39:35.659
are Italian, but you know what I mean. He was

00:39:35.659 --> 00:39:43.340
born in Belfast. Moving on to Golden Boy at the

00:39:43.340 --> 00:39:47.559
Honda Center in Anaheim, California. How was

00:39:47.559 --> 00:39:50.079
this one? I missed it, but it was kind of like

00:39:50.079 --> 00:39:55.489
a forward to Barbosa, kind of Sims. I really

00:39:55.489 --> 00:40:00.309
started keeping track at Gabby. She beat the

00:40:00.309 --> 00:40:03.329
shit out of Viviana Ruiz. Ruiz was game, but

00:40:03.329 --> 00:40:10.030
she beat that ass. It was just another Gabby

00:40:10.030 --> 00:40:15.369
fucking schooling. Gabby getting knockouts. Small

00:40:15.369 --> 00:40:20.989
women don't get knockouts, and she's had four

00:40:20.989 --> 00:40:25.369
in a row, I think. Women typically don't get

00:40:25.369 --> 00:40:28.369
knockouts. Smaller dudes don't get knockouts,

00:40:28.469 --> 00:40:32.130
typically. And Gabby's over here racking them

00:40:32.130 --> 00:40:37.489
up. What's her weight class again? 112. 112.

00:40:37.889 --> 00:40:42.670
She's talking about going down to 108. Why? No

00:40:42.670 --> 00:40:48.929
need. Why do you just have to continue to sweep

00:40:48.929 --> 00:40:53.659
up? Are you going to go for triple undisputed

00:40:53.659 --> 00:40:57.920
as well? I mean, it'd be cool. Sit on the throne

00:40:57.920 --> 00:41:05.119
next to Bud. Hold on. I'm trying to make a hypothetical

00:41:05.119 --> 00:41:06.820
fight here in my head. I just got to look something

00:41:06.820 --> 00:41:11.420
up. Like the broadcast team, we're talking about

00:41:11.420 --> 00:41:16.079
Sanisa Estrada or Sanisa Mannix now coming out

00:41:16.079 --> 00:41:19.730
of retirement to face Gabby. And Chris was like,

00:41:19.829 --> 00:41:23.489
no, I don't want my wife in the ring with her.

00:41:25.570 --> 00:41:29.449
I say Gabby move up and fight Skye Nicholson.

00:41:31.349 --> 00:41:35.289
Gabby would fucking destroy Skye Nicholson. That's

00:41:35.289 --> 00:41:38.989
10 pounds away. I don't care. Sharnika Johnson

00:41:38.989 --> 00:41:43.530
is in 118. That'd be a fun fight, actually. Sharnika

00:41:43.530 --> 00:41:47.309
Johnson. Yeah, she's fun. Ebony Bridges is around.

00:41:49.960 --> 00:41:55.219
She's fun. Her weigh -ins are interesting. Fun

00:41:55.219 --> 00:41:59.699
to look at. There's not much else, though. Yeah.

00:41:59.940 --> 00:42:03.280
I mean, maybe Gabi moves up, fights Skydeck from

00:42:03.280 --> 00:42:05.460
saying, like, a blockbuster fight. Just saying.

00:42:06.199 --> 00:42:10.619
Be a fun fight to watch. Absolutely. She could

00:42:10.619 --> 00:42:13.719
go up one weight class and fight Trenica Johnson.

00:42:13.940 --> 00:42:18.500
That would be fun. Yeah. Yeah, Nyx is good. I

00:42:18.500 --> 00:42:27.829
like her. I support. Shanada, did you put together

00:42:27.829 --> 00:42:34.050
a formal speech? About JoJo? Alexis Rocha, UD

00:42:34.050 --> 00:42:38.289
over Joseph JoJo fucking pedo ass BS. I heard

00:42:38.289 --> 00:42:41.869
this fight was terrible, apparently. It was bad.

00:42:41.969 --> 00:42:45.289
I'm disappointed in Rocha. Like, if you can't

00:42:45.289 --> 00:42:48.860
get fucking JoJo out, what are you doing? And

00:42:48.860 --> 00:42:51.500
how is JoJo still getting fights? Golden boy.

00:42:52.659 --> 00:42:56.440
Oh, yeah. I mean, I guess that's all you got.

00:42:57.079 --> 00:43:01.900
Yeah. Yep. I don't know. This was disappointing

00:43:01.900 --> 00:43:06.480
all around. No, I didn't put together a formal

00:43:06.480 --> 00:43:12.480
speech because it was so ass. Yeah. Well, I'll

00:43:12.480 --> 00:43:18.210
play the diplomat on this one. This is... A formal

00:43:18.210 --> 00:43:21.289
apology to anybody who might have heard that

00:43:21.289 --> 00:43:24.510
clip that I put out on social media where we

00:43:24.510 --> 00:43:27.670
were talking about Alexis Rocha whooping up on

00:43:27.670 --> 00:43:32.150
fucking JoJo. And that certainly did not happen.

00:43:34.429 --> 00:43:38.730
Yeah. If you were watching, hoping to see a diddler

00:43:38.730 --> 00:43:42.989
get his comeuppance, you definitely did not get

00:43:42.989 --> 00:43:47.579
that. So, apologies. Yeah. Disappointing performance

00:43:47.579 --> 00:43:52.739
by Rocha. Not the diddler. Let the diddler live.

00:43:52.739 --> 00:43:57.500
The worst of the Batman villains. The diddler.

00:43:58.360 --> 00:44:07.539
Jared. Moving up. Oscar Collazo retires Jesus

00:44:07.539 --> 00:44:13.139
Haro to retain his WBO minimum weight titles.

00:44:15.099 --> 00:44:19.800
Not surprising. No. But also not the fight I

00:44:19.800 --> 00:44:22.800
wanted to see. So I'm still angry about that.

00:44:24.920 --> 00:44:28.659
Well, now that they have DAZN money, they can

00:44:28.659 --> 00:44:32.760
get Melvin back. They can pay the Filipinos finally.

00:44:33.179 --> 00:44:38.219
Yeah. Even though the Filipinos floated themselves

00:44:38.219 --> 00:44:43.099
to get there. Bullshit. But yeah, no, Colazo...

00:44:43.420 --> 00:44:45.400
Did collazo things. I thought he looked good.

00:44:45.659 --> 00:44:49.760
Yeah. It was a clear mismatch. We had said that

00:44:49.760 --> 00:44:55.019
from the beginning. Not much else to say beyond

00:44:55.019 --> 00:44:59.400
that other than this is an instance where undisputed

00:44:59.400 --> 00:45:02.760
is necessary. Just because no one's going to

00:45:02.760 --> 00:45:07.840
pay attention to minimum weights. Even when they

00:45:07.840 --> 00:45:14.059
are undisputed, nobody pays attention. I'm good.

00:45:15.659 --> 00:45:19.960
Collazo did Collazo things, as you put it. Arnold

00:45:19.960 --> 00:45:26.780
Barbosa beats Kenneth Sims by decision. Sims

00:45:26.780 --> 00:45:30.679
didn't look... He started off okay, but he did

00:45:30.679 --> 00:45:38.079
not finish very well. And, yeah. Rocha came into

00:45:38.079 --> 00:45:43.130
the ring to confront. quote -unquote barbosa

00:45:43.130 --> 00:45:48.449
so i don't know i honestly those two deserve

00:45:48.449 --> 00:45:52.250
each other yeah this card overall like other

00:45:52.250 --> 00:45:56.510
than gabby was kind of disappointing yeah it

00:45:56.510 --> 00:46:00.510
was so let's get to something that wasn't disappointing

00:46:00.510 --> 00:46:05.989
sunday march 15th taken promotions in yokohama

00:46:05.989 --> 00:46:11.730
japan What do you got, Shanada? What were some

00:46:11.730 --> 00:46:15.269
things that maybe weren't on the, wasn't on the

00:46:15.269 --> 00:46:17.989
televised portion? I think the televised portion

00:46:17.989 --> 00:46:23.630
started at Matsumoto Takada. Yeah, so it was

00:46:23.630 --> 00:46:25.730
only the first fight wasn't on the televised.

00:46:26.929 --> 00:46:29.550
It was a really good fight. It was just four

00:46:29.550 --> 00:46:34.510
rounds, ended in a split draw, which, like, it

00:46:34.510 --> 00:46:36.829
was really close. Split draw was not upsetting.

00:46:38.610 --> 00:46:41.769
Neither of them really stood out to me, though.

00:46:42.030 --> 00:46:46.210
Like, I didn't find a new favorite. So, that

00:46:46.210 --> 00:46:50.929
first fight was fun, but nothing special. Basic

00:46:50.929 --> 00:46:53.630
Japanese four -round war. They just come out

00:46:53.630 --> 00:47:00.530
swinging. Clobber session? Yeah. Hmm. How did

00:47:00.530 --> 00:47:07.269
you feel seeing the legend get stopped? Doctor

00:47:07.269 --> 00:47:11.050
stopped it, and he got swept on the cards, I

00:47:11.050 --> 00:47:15.349
think. Knockout CPFreshmart versus Iwata. You're

00:47:15.349 --> 00:47:21.590
skipping the Matsumoto Takada? Because Takada

00:47:21.590 --> 00:47:25.369
comes out to Uptown Funk, which is a great walkout

00:47:25.369 --> 00:47:29.690
song. Fucking love it. Yeah. So I knew he was

00:47:29.690 --> 00:47:33.570
going to lose, but I had to cheer for him. But...

00:47:34.630 --> 00:47:37.409
Matsumoto's looking good. Like, I wouldn't mind

00:47:37.409 --> 00:47:40.530
seeing him and Kalazo after Kalazo cleans up

00:47:40.530 --> 00:47:47.269
the Filipinos. I like Matsumoto. He's the WBA

00:47:47.269 --> 00:47:52.469
regular, I think. So he is mandatory -ish. Yeah,

00:47:52.530 --> 00:47:57.329
he's something. He also has fun t -shirts. I

00:47:57.329 --> 00:48:00.190
was an adult and didn't buy my 11th t -shirt,

00:48:00.329 --> 00:48:05.460
but... They are fun. I would have gotten one.

00:48:05.679 --> 00:48:10.940
Doesn't matter how many I have. Yeah. But yeah,

00:48:11.019 --> 00:48:18.199
no. Seeing CP Freshmark stopped was... I mean,

00:48:18.219 --> 00:48:21.539
I kind of expected it. Iwata's for real. But

00:48:21.539 --> 00:48:27.239
I was really cheering for CP Freshmark. They

00:48:27.239 --> 00:48:30.320
don't use his real name at all here. And, like,

00:48:30.340 --> 00:48:32.980
you can't yell out Fresh Mart. That's just...

00:48:32.980 --> 00:48:38.019
People did. But... So I was attempting his actual

00:48:38.019 --> 00:48:41.980
last name. Neomto? I think... Yeah, I think he

00:48:41.980 --> 00:48:46.079
heard me once. In between rounds. He looked at

00:48:46.079 --> 00:48:49.079
me anyway. Did he? But no. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:48:49.280 --> 00:48:52.960
Cool. I wasn't very far back. Actually, I was

00:48:52.960 --> 00:48:55.800
too close. I wasn't high enough in the stands.

00:48:55.960 --> 00:48:58.480
The ropes were in the way. Oh, yeah, I know what

00:48:58.480 --> 00:49:02.530
you're talking about. Yeah, like, I was in the

00:49:02.530 --> 00:49:06.869
section I wanted, but I was the third row of

00:49:06.869 --> 00:49:10.550
raised seating. And I'd prefer to be about the

00:49:10.550 --> 00:49:13.690
tenth row. A little bit of a downward angle?

00:49:14.329 --> 00:49:16.809
Yeah, well, especially with these small guys,

00:49:16.929 --> 00:49:25.110
so you can see over the ropes. So Iwata has the

00:49:25.110 --> 00:49:30.210
WBC 108. I don't know who his contemporaries

00:49:30.210 --> 00:49:37.130
are. 108. I'm so bad at weight classes. Light

00:49:37.130 --> 00:49:42.110
flyweight. Rene Santiago has two belts. He's

00:49:42.110 --> 00:49:49.070
got the WBA and the WBO. And then... The Nongsak

00:49:49.070 --> 00:49:53.849
Simsri has the IBF. Okay. Simsri has a fight

00:49:53.849 --> 00:49:56.710
coming up. I don't remember talking about him.

00:49:59.710 --> 00:50:05.070
We've devolved into the degeneratist of degenerates

00:50:05.070 --> 00:50:11.590
drip. You weren't here to keep us casual. I like

00:50:11.590 --> 00:50:17.130
the little guys. Oh, yeah. But for Iwata, it's

00:50:17.130 --> 00:50:18.769
got to be one of those two. A unification with

00:50:18.769 --> 00:50:21.929
Santiago would be awesome. Yeah, definitely.

00:50:21.949 --> 00:50:24.309
And Santiago fights in Japan fairly frequently.

00:50:24.690 --> 00:50:28.889
He comes here a lot. Who is this? BoxRec has

00:50:28.889 --> 00:50:33.769
somebody else at number one. Sergio Mendoza.

00:50:36.289 --> 00:50:41.489
Mendoza. I need a pitcher. Sergio? Yes. You Hispanic

00:50:41.489 --> 00:50:47.730
-ed on me. I wasn't sure. Alfonso. Oh, I've seen

00:50:47.730 --> 00:50:52.389
him. He's fighting Sims 3 next. Oh, okay. Cool.

00:50:52.550 --> 00:50:57.070
And Korakuen. When is it? April. And Koh Rukun.

00:50:57.449 --> 00:51:00.929
Are you going to go get another t -shirt? Might

00:51:00.929 --> 00:51:05.829
have to buy a ticket. They won't have t -shirts

00:51:05.829 --> 00:51:12.090
because neither of them are Japanese. Well. Because

00:51:12.090 --> 00:51:15.190
I wanted to buy. I've wanted to for a long time.

00:51:15.369 --> 00:51:18.110
I even sent him messages on Instagram asking

00:51:18.110 --> 00:51:23.190
how. I've wanted an Ola Squaga t -shirt. He's

00:51:23.190 --> 00:51:26.960
got the A. with the tiara as the O over top of

00:51:26.960 --> 00:51:30.579
it. Very cool. They're super cute. They're super

00:51:30.579 --> 00:51:34.039
cute t -shirts, and I want one. I want Baby Blue

00:51:34.039 --> 00:51:37.239
on a black t -shirt, and he has them. His team

00:51:37.239 --> 00:51:41.800
wears them, but he doesn't sell them. Butthead.

00:51:42.719 --> 00:51:49.179
Yeah. Moving up. Speaking of Olaskwaga, Stoppagen

00:51:49.179 --> 00:51:54.639
9 over Jukia Imura. this might be beat down of

00:51:54.639 --> 00:51:56.960
the year so far i was gonna say did you watch

00:51:56.960 --> 00:52:01.000
it like that was just a fucking beating all the

00:52:01.000 --> 00:52:05.480
squaga does all the squaga things imura is tough

00:52:05.480 --> 00:52:09.460
as nails like i was hoping his corner would stop

00:52:09.460 --> 00:52:15.320
it sooner somebody should have But it was super

00:52:15.320 --> 00:52:18.699
cute. There was this tiny little Japanese voice.

00:52:18.980 --> 00:52:21.960
Like I bet you the kid was like eight. And he

00:52:21.960 --> 00:52:25.079
just kept yelling Ola Squaga over and over. Because

00:52:25.079 --> 00:52:28.659
Amura had a ton of fans. He's from Tokyo. And

00:52:28.659 --> 00:52:33.360
Yokohama is not very far. So they had like chants

00:52:33.360 --> 00:52:37.119
going for Jukia. And this tiny little voice would

00:52:37.119 --> 00:52:40.960
cut through in between. And be like Ola Squaga!

00:52:42.320 --> 00:52:46.860
It was so cute. Very cool. Yeah. Little Japanese

00:52:46.860 --> 00:52:51.079
boy is a fan of Ola Squago. Ola Squago fights

00:52:51.079 --> 00:52:53.960
here a lot. He's got quite a few fans now, actually.

00:52:54.320 --> 00:52:57.019
That wasn't the only voice, but it was the cutest

00:52:57.019 --> 00:53:03.679
voice. Yeah, he does the same type of shit with

00:53:03.679 --> 00:53:06.099
his hair and his outfits and stuff. The same

00:53:06.099 --> 00:53:09.159
type of stuff the Japanese do. Yeah, yeah. His

00:53:09.159 --> 00:53:12.059
hair was disappointing this time. It was like

00:53:12.059 --> 00:53:17.920
a... off -colored, greeny -yellow. Weird. Yeah.

00:53:19.019 --> 00:53:26.300
But yeah, Ola Squaga looked dominant. He gets

00:53:26.300 --> 00:53:29.579
hit, but I wonder a little bit if he gets hit

00:53:29.579 --> 00:53:32.480
because he knows he can take the punches from

00:53:32.480 --> 00:53:36.119
these guys. I usually give people the benefit

00:53:36.119 --> 00:53:38.639
of the doubt and assume that that is the case.

00:53:39.340 --> 00:53:44.550
Boots, for example, gets hit a lot. Yeah. I imagine

00:53:44.550 --> 00:53:46.909
he's a very intelligent fighter. Like when he

00:53:46.909 --> 00:53:50.849
fought Royman Villa, who is like a club level

00:53:50.849 --> 00:53:55.550
guy with world level power. He did not let Villa

00:53:55.550 --> 00:53:58.030
touch him. So I think Ola Sklaga is just not

00:53:58.030 --> 00:54:01.889
concerned. Yeah, like I think Ola Sklaga really

00:54:01.889 --> 00:54:04.909
chases the knockouts. And if you're chasing knockouts,

00:54:04.949 --> 00:54:08.630
you're going to get hit. Yeah, that too. Speaking

00:54:08.630 --> 00:54:14.130
of getting hit. Nonita Donair stopped in eight

00:54:14.130 --> 00:54:20.610
by Riku Masuda. This one was kind of sad. Have

00:54:20.610 --> 00:54:24.670
we seen the end of Donair? I mean, we should

00:54:24.670 --> 00:54:27.650
have. This should be the end, right? I think

00:54:27.650 --> 00:54:31.889
so. Like, so I know not many people know Masuda,

00:54:31.989 --> 00:54:37.829
but Masuda's got power. Like, and he was really

00:54:37.829 --> 00:54:41.010
nervous at the beginning of the fight. Just like

00:54:41.010 --> 00:54:46.389
Seiya was. And he got hit once. Masuda got rocked

00:54:46.389 --> 00:54:49.090
early. But then Masuda figured out the timing

00:54:49.090 --> 00:54:52.309
and Donair's old and slower than he used to be.

00:54:52.829 --> 00:54:55.449
And then Masuda just started piecing him up.

00:54:55.690 --> 00:55:00.690
Like, it was bad. And Donair was hurt. His team

00:55:00.690 --> 00:55:04.050
tried to stop it at the very end of the 7th.

00:55:05.090 --> 00:55:09.179
Like, they were waving the... at the ref to stop

00:55:09.179 --> 00:55:11.900
it but there was only like three seconds left

00:55:11.900 --> 00:55:14.519
so when he no need to walk back to the corner

00:55:14.519 --> 00:55:16.539
he must have talked him into letting him go back

00:55:16.539 --> 00:55:21.539
out man i've seen enough of donair getting hit

00:55:21.539 --> 00:55:25.920
he's he's bright he's a good analyst like he

00:55:25.920 --> 00:55:29.159
and he's eloquent i think he would be good on

00:55:29.159 --> 00:55:32.719
comms like bro he is good on comms he does calm

00:55:32.719 --> 00:55:37.989
sometimes he's in his mid 40s it's It's time,

00:55:38.110 --> 00:55:41.929
man. It's been time. Like, you don't need to

00:55:41.929 --> 00:55:45.949
be getting... Donair has his own theme song he

00:55:45.949 --> 00:55:48.349
walks out to. I don't know if you watched The

00:55:48.349 --> 00:55:52.070
Walkout. No, I didn't. That song fucking slaps.

00:55:52.090 --> 00:55:55.550
I don't care what anyone says. Yeah, anyone who

00:55:55.550 --> 00:55:58.849
hasn't heard the song should go find it. Donito

00:55:58.849 --> 00:56:02.130
has his own song. Who else? Roy Jones obviously

00:56:02.130 --> 00:56:06.489
had a whole album. Yeah, he did. Joe Joyce. had

00:56:06.489 --> 00:56:12.929
his own intro music. The song must be up on...

00:56:12.929 --> 00:56:17.610
It's gotta be somewhere, for sure. Yeah, it's

00:56:17.610 --> 00:56:21.610
on YouTube. It's called Filipino Flash Nonito

00:56:21.610 --> 00:56:28.730
Donair Theme Song by Respetados of Brown. Whoever

00:56:28.730 --> 00:56:32.769
they are. But I think the song slaps. Like...

00:56:32.769 --> 00:56:38.260
And Nonito's... outfit was fucking awesome. The

00:56:38.260 --> 00:56:42.099
flames? I love the flames. That's like throwback

00:56:42.099 --> 00:56:49.480
Filipino style. Yeah. Yeah. Masuda looked pretty

00:56:49.480 --> 00:56:52.679
good, but Donair shouldn't be getting beat by

00:56:52.679 --> 00:56:58.539
people like Masuda. Yeah, if he was still himself.

00:56:59.500 --> 00:57:03.539
Yeah, like 10 years ago, Donair fucking stomps

00:57:03.539 --> 00:57:07.260
this guy. Overall, how would you rate the event?

00:57:08.599 --> 00:57:10.639
I thought this was a great card. The fights were

00:57:10.639 --> 00:57:17.380
all fun. It was in a... They called it a stadium,

00:57:17.519 --> 00:57:22.679
but it's more like a gymnasium in Yokohama. Nice

00:57:22.679 --> 00:57:24.559
venue, and they actually had food and drinks,

00:57:24.719 --> 00:57:29.800
which is always a plus. Nice. Yeah. Anything

00:57:29.800 --> 00:57:33.929
more for Yokohama? No, I don't think so. All

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Alexis Barrier is a name that I recognized on

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up. Let me see if there's anything. Liam Davies

01:01:33.500 --> 01:01:35.559
versus Zach Miller. I recognize those names.

01:01:36.139 --> 01:01:40.480
Willie Hutchinson versus Ezra Taylor. And the

01:01:40.480 --> 01:01:42.820
headline, Moses Itauma versus Jermaine Franklin.

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How quickly does Itauma get... Franklin out of

01:01:49.230 --> 01:01:52.489
there. Ah, dude, it's going to be quick. Faster

01:01:52.489 --> 01:01:56.630
than Dillian White? I don't think so. I give

01:01:56.630 --> 01:02:00.769
it... I give it no more than three rounds. No

01:02:00.769 --> 01:02:05.570
more than three? Yeah. Franklin's pretty tough.

01:02:07.630 --> 01:02:10.130
And he's also crafty. I don't know. I think he'll

01:02:10.130 --> 01:02:14.210
be able to survive quite a bit of ways. Maybe

01:02:14.210 --> 01:02:16.110
I'm not giving enough credit, but... I don't

01:02:16.110 --> 01:02:18.760
know. I like Atomaw a lot, so... I'm going to

01:02:18.760 --> 01:02:20.619
stick with three. I'll say no more than three.

01:02:20.980 --> 01:02:24.599
That would be a statement. That would be a big

01:02:24.599 --> 01:02:30.460
statement. Yeah, Atama is definitely... He's

01:02:30.460 --> 01:02:34.300
like the guy of the next generation of heavyweights.

01:02:34.340 --> 01:02:37.920
He is the guy already. He's establishing himself

01:02:37.920 --> 01:02:42.320
as that. And he's... I don't necessarily know

01:02:42.320 --> 01:02:49.550
if he... If it goes longer rounds, is that to

01:02:49.550 --> 01:02:55.150
Atalma's detriment? That he didn't spark him

01:02:55.150 --> 01:03:00.949
out faster? At some point, Atalma needs to get

01:03:00.949 --> 01:03:04.329
rounds. Exactly. That's what I'm thinking. He

01:03:04.329 --> 01:03:07.769
needs to get rounds with someone. This is not

01:03:07.769 --> 01:03:12.750
a bad guy to get rounds with. Fuck it, I saw...

01:03:14.179 --> 01:03:17.260
That one article, like, last week, they kept,

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like, asking Yusuke about, like, him fighting

01:03:18.940 --> 01:03:22.260
Atamo, and he was like, no, because he's too

01:03:22.260 --> 01:03:24.800
young, I would break him. Honestly, very fair.

01:03:25.000 --> 01:03:26.880
Like, that's very fair. Like, he would ruin that

01:03:26.880 --> 01:03:28.739
kid's career. It's like, there's no point to

01:03:28.739 --> 01:03:32.360
him to fight Yusuke by any means. I don't think

01:03:32.360 --> 01:03:35.679
he'd ruin his career, but, I mean... Maybe not

01:03:35.679 --> 01:03:37.639
his career, but I feel like his spirits, maybe.

01:03:38.179 --> 01:03:41.380
Maybe, yeah. Like, that would just be, like,

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a painful beating to watch. Mayweather, Canelo.

01:03:45.760 --> 01:03:47.940
That's what it makes me think of. Yeah, exactly.

01:03:49.420 --> 01:03:53.400
Snipe him while he's young. I'm trying to look

01:03:53.400 --> 01:04:01.139
up something real quick. Fuck, dude. Who's Fabio

01:04:01.139 --> 01:04:03.619
Wardley fighting again? Is that... Daniel Dubois.

01:04:04.699 --> 01:04:09.360
Dubois, Dubois. Yeah, it was Dubois. See, I would

01:04:09.360 --> 01:04:12.500
have said maybe even like... Wardley versus Atoma

01:04:12.500 --> 01:04:16.219
would have been a real good test. Oh, that's

01:04:16.219 --> 01:04:19.480
the... That's too dangerous. That's the Super

01:04:19.480 --> 01:04:21.760
Bowl. They're going to build to that. They're

01:04:21.760 --> 01:04:23.219
going to make the shit out of that. I think that's

01:04:23.219 --> 01:04:25.840
going to be a good fight, though. That will go

01:04:25.840 --> 01:04:28.960
gangbusters, for sure. Atoma, Wardley. If they

01:04:28.960 --> 01:04:31.400
keep going at the rate that they are, because

01:04:31.400 --> 01:04:35.940
just non -stop stoppages. Well, so I guess the

01:04:35.940 --> 01:04:38.440
other side of the coin of that, right, is maybe

01:04:38.440 --> 01:04:42.340
I'm looking too far ahead, but like... Wardley

01:04:42.340 --> 01:04:49.719
versus Dubois, what do we think? I think Wardley,

01:04:49.860 --> 01:04:53.460
I've bet against Wardley enough times that I'm

01:04:53.460 --> 01:04:58.440
not doing it anymore. I genuinely think Dubois

01:04:58.440 --> 01:05:01.920
is going to have a good opening stretch until

01:05:01.920 --> 01:05:07.440
Wardley figures it out and sends him to the canvas.

01:05:08.389 --> 01:05:11.449
Until the Wardley slot machine hits sevens again.

01:05:11.570 --> 01:05:15.590
Like, every fucking time. He will hit triple

01:05:15.590 --> 01:05:19.570
sevens. He always does. Yeah. This might be a

01:05:19.570 --> 01:05:21.429
hot take, but I feel like Dubois is kind of sloppy.

01:05:21.710 --> 01:05:26.050
Like, he's pretty sloppy, I feel like. And that's

01:05:26.050 --> 01:05:31.789
where Wardley's going to catch him. His play

01:05:31.789 --> 01:05:35.360
with AJ, even though he sparked AJ, like... He

01:05:35.360 --> 01:05:37.199
just went in there like a bull in a china shop,

01:05:37.300 --> 01:05:39.239
right? Just went in there swinging for the fences.

01:05:39.900 --> 01:05:44.559
Yeah. And maybe someone like Wardley would actually

01:05:44.559 --> 01:05:46.679
catch Dubois coming in like that, like just meeting

01:05:46.679 --> 01:05:50.760
fire with fire in a way. Yeah. Just meet in the

01:05:50.760 --> 01:05:53.619
middle and throw punches. I don't know. I've

01:05:53.619 --> 01:05:55.519
been a Dubois hater for as long as I can remember.

01:05:56.980 --> 01:06:03.840
And I just feel like he was hyped up so much.

01:06:04.989 --> 01:06:08.710
like in his beginning of his career what he quit

01:06:08.710 --> 01:06:11.050
against what was it Joyce right with the eye

01:06:11.050 --> 01:06:12.590
thing which was fair I give him that like you

01:06:12.590 --> 01:06:14.829
got your elbow broken take a knee that's that's

01:06:14.829 --> 01:06:18.389
fair right no denying that one but he was getting

01:06:18.389 --> 01:06:21.989
the shit behind with that one and then who else

01:06:21.989 --> 01:06:25.969
made him Usyk made him quit off a jab and then

01:06:25.969 --> 01:06:29.750
all the build -up before the Usyk 2 fight where

01:06:30.750 --> 01:06:33.349
His team was just talking so much shit. It's

01:06:33.349 --> 01:06:36.250
like, dude, like, your guy quit off a jab. Let's

01:06:36.250 --> 01:06:40.070
be real. And I just feel like the whole Dubois

01:06:40.070 --> 01:06:41.730
thing is like a failed Frank Warner experiment.

01:06:42.050 --> 01:06:44.949
Like, just try to build up so much hype. He gets

01:06:44.949 --> 01:06:47.510
the hype, gets slimed. Now I gotta build him

01:06:47.510 --> 01:06:50.130
back up again. And let's be honest, like, if

01:06:50.130 --> 01:06:54.389
Wordly slimes out Dubois again, then what? Do

01:06:54.389 --> 01:06:57.130
you build him back up one more time? Nah, Dubois

01:06:57.130 --> 01:06:59.989
is done if he gets KO'd. That's what I'm saying.

01:07:00.110 --> 01:07:02.050
Like, I get he's young. He is young. I get that.

01:07:02.090 --> 01:07:06.190
But, like, how good really is he? Let's be honest.

01:07:06.289 --> 01:07:10.750
How good really is Dubois? I get it. He caught

01:07:10.750 --> 01:07:15.409
AJ and beat him. Respect to that. Who else can

01:07:15.409 --> 01:07:17.769
he beat? He was giving Usyk good work before

01:07:17.769 --> 01:07:22.349
the jab. Right. Yeah, we'll give him that, too.

01:07:22.909 --> 01:07:27.449
But quit off a jab. That part to me is insane.

01:07:27.670 --> 01:07:31.110
I think the... the low blow, like the controversy

01:07:31.110 --> 01:07:33.590
with that, I think that kind of messed with his

01:07:33.590 --> 01:07:36.570
head and it took him out of the fight. So he,

01:07:36.630 --> 01:07:40.429
I don't think that like the jab hurt him or like,

01:07:40.449 --> 01:07:46.849
or he mentally checked out. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

01:07:46.909 --> 01:07:50.730
He's not a very mentally strong boxer. He had

01:07:50.730 --> 01:07:54.409
like, had he struggled with Gerald Miller? Yeah.

01:07:55.289 --> 01:07:57.389
Oh my God. Yeah. I remember that. I forgot what

01:07:57.389 --> 01:08:00.860
that fight too. I tried to forget. And then,

01:08:00.920 --> 01:08:02.960
like, maybe even, like, Dubois versus Caballel

01:08:02.960 --> 01:08:04.760
would be a good fight, but Caballel, I think,

01:08:04.760 --> 01:08:08.880
is just, he needs to get his title shot. Yeah,

01:08:08.980 --> 01:08:10.900
Caballel's been waiting too long. He's done his

01:08:10.900 --> 01:08:15.219
waiting. Yeah. 12 years of it in Azkaban prison.

01:08:15.980 --> 01:08:18.840
That was, that was, that was my whole spiel.

01:08:18.920 --> 01:08:23.199
I think, I'm sure, I'm going to root for Wardley,

01:08:23.220 --> 01:08:25.359
that he gets past Dubois, and then, obviously,

01:08:25.500 --> 01:08:28.420
I think Otomo. smokes Franklin at some point.

01:08:28.680 --> 01:08:32.260
That blockbuster fight of Wardley and Atauma

01:08:32.260 --> 01:08:35.680
will be amazing to watch. Imagine if Wardley

01:08:35.680 --> 01:08:39.220
hits triple sevens against Atauma. Oh my goodness.

01:08:39.579 --> 01:08:44.479
Scenes. Absolute cinema. Because I don't think

01:08:44.479 --> 01:08:48.500
Atauma's been hit hard at all. Nobody's caught

01:08:48.500 --> 01:08:51.659
him. Nope, he hasn't been tested. Not at all.

01:08:53.319 --> 01:08:56.789
That's why I'm hoping that Franklin Give some

01:08:56.789 --> 01:09:00.590
good work. I think it'll go into the mids, the

01:09:00.590 --> 01:09:05.050
mid rounds, like the middle four. Six to eight?

01:09:05.189 --> 01:09:09.909
Yeah, somewhere in that area. Let's roll on.

01:09:10.890 --> 01:09:16.470
Probox at Thunder Studios in California. The

01:09:16.470 --> 01:09:19.069
only two fights on here really worth pointing

01:09:19.069 --> 01:09:21.829
out, Brian Acosta versus Ronnie Rios and Rene

01:09:21.829 --> 01:09:28.960
Taez versus Malik Montgomery. I'm not familiar

01:09:28.960 --> 01:09:32.460
with him. I have no idea. Or whatever that's

01:09:32.460 --> 01:09:38.439
worth. He's lost his last two fights. But that

01:09:38.439 --> 01:09:41.420
might just make him hungry. That's prime setup

01:09:41.420 --> 01:09:47.020
for Probox. It's Probox. Probox good. Enjoy it.

01:09:50.859 --> 01:09:55.539
The undercard of the PBC on Prime event was announced.

01:09:55.739 --> 01:09:59.039
Let me see if I can find the post. Because it's

01:09:59.039 --> 01:10:01.500
not very good. Oh, my God. PBC Saban fights?

01:10:01.640 --> 01:10:06.659
I forgot about them. Yeah. Holy shit. Their quarterly

01:10:06.659 --> 01:10:09.319
pay -per -view? Yeah, fuck. What do they even

01:10:09.319 --> 01:10:17.340
have? A few people. They have Roach, right? Lamont

01:10:17.340 --> 01:10:21.930
Roach, I think, is with Probox. Really? Yeah.

01:10:22.970 --> 01:10:27.109
Wow. Here it is. Okay, so the undercard is...

01:10:27.109 --> 01:10:44.109
That's... Very unfortunate. Yeah, I don't know

01:10:44.109 --> 01:10:50.000
who any of those are. The... Getting to, I don't

01:10:50.000 --> 01:10:52.979
know who these people are, gets better. Gergen

01:10:52.979 --> 01:10:56.439
Hovenissian versus Cesar Navarro. Isn't that

01:10:56.439 --> 01:11:01.119
fun? We know who Hovenissian is. Do we? Yeah.

01:11:01.439 --> 01:11:03.699
I think you're thinking of a different Hovenissian.

01:11:04.340 --> 01:11:08.340
There's more than one Hovenissian? Yes. Oh, then

01:11:08.340 --> 01:11:11.140
yes. You're thinking of Crazy A. He fights at

01:11:11.140 --> 01:11:16.239
the lower weight classes. Okay. Yoendly Hernandez

01:11:16.239 --> 01:11:20.699
versus Terrell Gachet. Yoendly is looking like

01:11:20.699 --> 01:11:24.300
a decent middleweight guy coming up. And, like,

01:11:24.359 --> 01:11:26.880
Lord knows that middleweight needs more names.

01:11:27.119 --> 01:11:32.460
So, that's fun. And the main event, Sebastian

01:11:32.460 --> 01:11:37.340
Fundora defending his WBC super welterweight

01:11:37.340 --> 01:11:45.930
title against Keith. One time. Ah, God. I mean,

01:11:45.970 --> 01:11:48.409
Fandora's just going to beat up an old man, right?

01:11:48.729 --> 01:11:53.069
Yeah, dude. What are we doing here? Yeah. I have

01:11:53.069 --> 01:11:55.029
the same question, Drip. I have the same question.

01:11:55.029 --> 01:11:57.029
The state of boxing, ladies and gentlemen. The

01:11:57.029 --> 01:12:02.430
state of boxing. I mean, given what the recent

01:12:02.430 --> 01:12:06.909
signings to Top Rank and signing to DAZN, Golden

01:12:06.909 --> 01:12:10.149
Boy re -signing to DAZN, Queensbury and Mattrum

01:12:10.149 --> 01:12:14.609
are on long -term deals. Boxing's not in a bad

01:12:14.609 --> 01:12:18.140
state. it's pbc's in a bad state yeah you know

01:12:18.140 --> 01:12:19.279
what you're right let me take let me retract

01:12:19.279 --> 01:12:23.420
that the state of pbc is it's fucking dire um

01:12:23.420 --> 01:12:26.380
yeah this like quarterly pay -per -view shit

01:12:26.380 --> 01:12:31.859
needs to stop um there there should be for what

01:12:31.859 --> 01:12:35.659
pbc started out as like in 2015 2016 time frame

01:12:35.659 --> 01:12:40.439
it was there was developmental series contender

01:12:40.439 --> 01:12:44.140
series and then like the big big name pay -per

01:12:44.140 --> 01:12:48.789
-views But now, you're going to charge me like

01:12:48.789 --> 01:12:52.189
$80 for this? Get the fuck out of here, man.

01:12:53.430 --> 01:12:56.210
Nah, dude. They need investors. They need investors

01:12:56.210 --> 01:13:02.729
and they need fighters. I said in Discord that

01:13:02.729 --> 01:13:06.850
PBC, with Top Rank and Golden Boy going back,

01:13:07.010 --> 01:13:10.409
that PBC should be looking at DAZN as a new home.

01:13:11.780 --> 01:13:13.479
And they should be signing those partnership

01:13:13.479 --> 01:13:20.640
deals with the other promoters. Long before Sufo

01:13:20.640 --> 01:13:23.859
comes through and takes all PBC's fighters. Yeah,

01:13:23.880 --> 01:13:31.819
you gotta do something with them. I don't know,

01:13:31.840 --> 01:13:33.260
do you guys have anything more on this fight?

01:13:33.619 --> 01:13:36.619
This card's pretty fucking abysmal. Yeah, that's

01:13:36.619 --> 01:13:40.289
not worth my time to even watch it. I mean, I'll

01:13:40.289 --> 01:13:46.090
watch Pandora, but... Right. Even that, I'm like,

01:13:46.210 --> 01:13:49.970
tell you what, if I'm not doing anything, I'll

01:13:49.970 --> 01:13:51.729
throw it on, but I probably won't make time for

01:13:51.729 --> 01:13:56.350
it if it's like the morning out and about. Yeah,

01:13:56.430 --> 01:14:03.789
that's fair. So, as we transition out of the

01:14:03.789 --> 01:14:10.039
previews, Drip, you've got a lot to say. Let

01:14:10.039 --> 01:14:12.399
her rip. There's a lot of questions and comments,

01:14:12.539 --> 01:14:14.520
but, I mean, let's start with Zufa. What do you

01:14:14.520 --> 01:14:16.600
guys think about it? I watched the Wong card,

01:14:16.720 --> 01:14:19.539
I think it was last week, two weeks ago. I didn't

01:14:19.539 --> 01:14:22.560
think it was terrible by any means, but when

01:14:22.560 --> 01:14:25.279
they first announced Zufa becoming a thing, I

01:14:25.279 --> 01:14:27.640
thought it would just be that, like, up -and

01:14:27.640 --> 01:14:29.699
-comers, low -level guys to kind of, like, start

01:14:29.699 --> 01:14:32.479
off at, get their names out there, put on some

01:14:32.479 --> 01:14:35.319
fights. And then suddenly we're signing Conor

01:14:35.319 --> 01:14:40.689
Benn for $15 million, and... Jaya Pataya gets

01:14:40.689 --> 01:14:43.829
a Zufa belt with his IBF controversy. And I'm

01:14:43.829 --> 01:14:47.409
just like, what are we doing? What's the actual

01:14:47.409 --> 01:14:50.569
end goal here? I thought, again, it was just

01:14:50.569 --> 01:14:53.630
going to be up -and -comers, low -level pros

01:14:53.630 --> 01:14:55.270
to kind of get in there and build their names

01:14:55.270 --> 01:14:58.489
up and maybe leave after their contract or so

01:14:58.489 --> 01:15:01.289
on and so forth until Zufa can afford these high

01:15:01.289 --> 01:15:03.670
-level names. But right now, it's just all over

01:15:03.670 --> 01:15:06.750
the place. It's like a spider web. Zufa has...

01:15:07.330 --> 01:15:11.229
no real, like, business plan right now, I don't

01:15:11.229 --> 01:15:15.789
think. Like, oh, we're going back to the original

01:15:15.789 --> 01:15:18.590
weight classes, unless we can sign someone famous

01:15:18.590 --> 01:15:21.210
in a different weight class. Oh, we're not working

01:15:21.210 --> 01:15:23.710
with anybody, it's only gonna be the Zufa belts.

01:15:23.989 --> 01:15:26.609
Well, except for these guys that want the other

01:15:26.609 --> 01:15:28.390
belts and already have them, I guess they can

01:15:28.390 --> 01:15:30.810
keep them. Yeah, I guess make an exception. Well,

01:15:30.829 --> 01:15:33.470
now it's like, okay, you do it for him, you gotta

01:15:33.470 --> 01:15:35.630
do it for everybody. And at that point, you're...

01:15:35.930 --> 01:15:37.350
You're already breaking your business model.

01:15:37.510 --> 01:15:39.810
Yeah, you're doing the same exact thing that

01:15:39.810 --> 01:15:41.909
you were bitching about that boxing was broken.

01:15:42.350 --> 01:15:46.010
Now look at us. You're bitching about the titles

01:15:46.010 --> 01:15:48.149
that are being too many titles and then you're

01:15:48.149 --> 01:15:50.489
adding one to it. You're adding a belt. You're

01:15:50.489 --> 01:15:53.409
adding a belt. What the fuck? I've been seeing

01:15:53.409 --> 01:15:59.409
this post go around on Instagram. It said, which

01:15:59.409 --> 01:16:02.390
belt do you think is most prestigious in the

01:16:02.390 --> 01:16:08.789
six belt era? Six. Six. No. It's disgusting.

01:16:09.109 --> 01:16:12.170
Absolutely abysmal. So we already have... It's

01:16:12.170 --> 01:16:14.750
already bad enough with the four. Alright? They're

01:16:14.750 --> 01:16:18.569
fucking shady organizations. But adding Zufa

01:16:18.569 --> 01:16:23.970
and I continue to have this discussion. It keeps

01:16:23.970 --> 01:16:28.210
coming up. Is The Ring a title? Ring Magazine?

01:16:28.310 --> 01:16:31.010
No. Is that a title? No. I wouldn't say this

01:16:31.010 --> 01:16:33.529
now. Well, if they're saying six belts, it has

01:16:33.529 --> 01:16:35.510
to be the ring is the other one. That is the

01:16:35.510 --> 01:16:38.210
other one. That's why I'm asking. Yeah. I would

01:16:38.210 --> 01:16:42.109
view it as like a, I don't even know, like a

01:16:42.109 --> 01:16:46.130
prestigious award. Not so much a belt. Yeah,

01:16:46.229 --> 01:16:49.590
like more of a trophy award type thing. Yeah.

01:16:49.590 --> 01:16:52.529
And that's what it's supposed to be. Congrats.

01:16:52.590 --> 01:16:55.369
You're number one. Here you go. Yeah, exactly.

01:16:55.609 --> 01:16:57.170
Kind of like the Muhammad Ali trophy. It's a

01:16:57.170 --> 01:17:00.300
trophy. It's like. uh prestigious award i wouldn't

01:17:00.300 --> 01:17:03.119
consider the ring magazine belt as a belt but

01:17:03.119 --> 01:17:06.079
if that's what we're aiming towards i mean i

01:17:06.079 --> 01:17:08.680
guess but now what yeah we're in a six belt era

01:17:08.680 --> 01:17:11.319
like how do you even keep up all this shit be

01:17:11.319 --> 01:17:14.880
a fucking filthy degenerate like me uh listening

01:17:14.880 --> 01:17:17.579
listening to boxing before dark and boxing b

01:17:17.579 --> 01:17:19.699
-sides and that's how you keep up with all that

01:17:19.699 --> 01:17:22.399
shit because i do it for you great plugin that

01:17:22.399 --> 01:17:24.899
was a great plugin a great layup yeah thank you

01:17:24.899 --> 01:17:30.409
that was alley -oop from drip Right on. Yeah,

01:17:30.430 --> 01:17:33.649
I don't know. Like, I guess with Zufa also, like,

01:17:33.689 --> 01:17:36.090
I know a lot of UFC fighters were, like, speaking

01:17:36.090 --> 01:17:38.109
up about, like, why the fuck is Conor Benn getting

01:17:38.109 --> 01:17:39.750
$15 million? I'm sure you guys already went over

01:17:39.750 --> 01:17:42.569
this in the UFC podcast, but... We're going over

01:17:42.569 --> 01:17:46.810
it everywhere. Keep slapping him with it. It's

01:17:46.810 --> 01:17:50.270
like... My thing is, too, like, it's going to

01:17:50.270 --> 01:17:51.810
go with the fucking spider web, like a spiral,

01:17:51.909 --> 01:17:55.689
but... Okay, Conor Benn. Huge name in England,

01:17:55.789 --> 01:17:58.579
right? That's about it. No one knows the fuck

01:17:58.579 --> 01:18:01.939
Connor Bennett is in America. No one cares. Yeah,

01:18:01.979 --> 01:18:04.420
no one cares either. Maybe this will kind of

01:18:04.420 --> 01:18:06.539
get him some publicity in America, some star

01:18:06.539 --> 01:18:09.260
power there. But, okay, who does he fight? Who

01:18:09.260 --> 01:18:12.380
does Connor Bennett fight for $15 million? Regis

01:18:12.380 --> 01:18:16.840
Progray. Yeah. Crazy. Are they going to pay Regis

01:18:16.840 --> 01:18:21.340
Progray close to $15 million also? Hell no. Well,

01:18:21.340 --> 01:18:23.279
they got to pay him something, right? Actually,

01:18:23.300 --> 01:18:29.600
I saw some articles that Eddie Hearn is trying

01:18:29.600 --> 01:18:33.159
to prove that Conor Bent isn't getting $15 million

01:18:33.159 --> 01:18:35.840
for that one fight. It's going to turn into a

01:18:35.840 --> 01:18:40.520
two -fight deal. And that means he didn't have

01:18:40.520 --> 01:18:44.899
the opportunity to match it, which breaks contracts

01:18:44.899 --> 01:18:47.819
or some legal bullshit. So Eddie Hearn's trying

01:18:47.819 --> 01:18:51.579
to take him back to court, I think. Connor to

01:18:51.579 --> 01:18:55.340
court or Dana to court? Both. Both. Interesting.

01:18:55.840 --> 01:18:59.140
I mean, I know Dana and Eddie Hearn are having

01:18:59.140 --> 01:19:03.479
a war of the words, but I don't know. Even then,

01:19:03.579 --> 01:19:05.039
so, like, let's say it's a two -fight deal, so

01:19:05.039 --> 01:19:06.979
you're still going to pay Connor or Ben, what,

01:19:07.079 --> 01:19:09.079
seven and a half million to fight Regis Progray?

01:19:10.279 --> 01:19:13.560
Yeah, that's ridiculous. On top of what they

01:19:13.560 --> 01:19:15.119
have to pay Regis Progray, too, which I'm assuming

01:19:15.119 --> 01:19:18.449
is going to be, like, at least Maybe like, what,

01:19:18.489 --> 01:19:20.369
2 million maybe? They gotta give him something,

01:19:20.489 --> 01:19:24.369
right? I don't know how true this is, but I had

01:19:24.369 --> 01:19:29.550
heard somewhere that it was a 500k. That's insane.

01:19:29.770 --> 01:19:32.850
That's absolutely insane. Regis is dumb for taking

01:19:32.850 --> 01:19:34.850
that. Sorry, Regis, you ever watch this podcast?

01:19:35.229 --> 01:19:37.510
Sorry, but you're an idiot for taking that. I

01:19:37.510 --> 01:19:39.529
know you're listening, Regis. It's all good.

01:19:40.210 --> 01:19:42.470
I hope you're not getting off the 500k and accepting

01:19:42.470 --> 01:19:45.289
it while Connor Ben is getting 7 .5 million,

01:19:45.409 --> 01:19:49.720
supposedly. That's insane, brother. It's fucking

01:19:49.720 --> 01:19:52.359
crazy. That whole Connor Ben signing is just

01:19:52.359 --> 01:19:55.439
to piss off Eddie Hearn. No other reason for

01:19:55.439 --> 01:19:58.819
it. 100%. That's why Dana, he didn't take Tom

01:19:58.819 --> 01:20:00.800
Aspinall, but he signed him to his talent agency

01:20:00.800 --> 01:20:06.140
or whatever. He was on the Ariel Helwani. I'm

01:20:06.140 --> 01:20:08.979
sorry. Eddie Hearn went on Ariel's podcast and

01:20:08.979 --> 01:20:12.840
he was ripping into Zufa and Dana and how the

01:20:12.840 --> 01:20:14.159
business model is not sustainable and everything.

01:20:14.640 --> 01:20:19.939
A lot of valid points, honestly. But after, like,

01:20:20.020 --> 01:20:23.260
after Conor Ben's fights are done, does he re

01:20:23.260 --> 01:20:25.319
-sign with Zufa? Does he go, where else does

01:20:25.319 --> 01:20:26.979
he go? Like, what happens then? Because that's,

01:20:26.979 --> 01:20:28.680
I mean, Conor's going to be what? Zufa's the

01:20:28.680 --> 01:20:32.380
biggest star, right? Do they lose him? Oh, yeah,

01:20:32.479 --> 01:20:34.939
you just sink 15 mil for two fights, and then

01:20:34.939 --> 01:20:38.520
he's gone? Yeah, like, then, well, that's your

01:20:38.520 --> 01:20:41.520
biggest star, because rumor is that they also

01:20:41.520 --> 01:20:43.920
reached out to AJ, too. They wanted to sign AJ,

01:20:44.140 --> 01:20:46.300
but he obviously shut it down, because he's...

01:20:46.300 --> 01:20:49.520
They reached out to everyone. Yeah. They tried

01:20:49.520 --> 01:20:52.520
Usyk? Yeah, that was never going to happen. Imagine

01:20:52.520 --> 01:20:54.539
the insane amount of money they have to pay AJ

01:20:54.539 --> 01:20:57.340
or Usyk to even come over. It would be abysmal.

01:20:59.300 --> 01:21:05.260
Right. Like, you show AJ 15 mil for a two -fight

01:21:05.260 --> 01:21:08.420
contract, and then he's going to say, I haven't

01:21:08.420 --> 01:21:13.539
made 7 .5 in one fight in, like, a decade or

01:21:13.539 --> 01:21:16.560
more. You are fucking out of your mind if you

01:21:16.560 --> 01:21:20.390
think I'm going to take that. I'm just wondering

01:21:20.390 --> 01:21:24.989
if, like, these signings, like, Jabba, Taya,

01:21:25.229 --> 01:21:26.930
Connor, Ben, I don't know if they have anyone

01:21:26.930 --> 01:21:28.869
else bigger than those two, right? That's, like,

01:21:28.909 --> 01:21:30.029
their main stars right now. No, that's their

01:21:30.029 --> 01:21:32.590
two. Those are the biggest ones they got. So,

01:21:32.609 --> 01:21:36.210
like, let's say, like, I wonder if they signed

01:21:36.210 --> 01:21:39.409
those two to get, like, traction into Zufa, and

01:21:39.409 --> 01:21:41.250
then they'll have more eyes on it now. It's kind

01:21:41.250 --> 01:21:42.770
of like a way to, like, bring people in. Like,

01:21:42.810 --> 01:21:44.909
hey, look at these two big stars we have. You

01:21:44.909 --> 01:21:49.619
know, I don't think that... Boxing fans are the

01:21:49.619 --> 01:21:56.720
target demographic for Zufa. Zufa is their target

01:21:56.720 --> 01:22:01.600
audience is people who like the UFC structure.

01:22:02.300 --> 01:22:08.159
That's it. One belt divisions. Yeah. It's there.

01:22:08.779 --> 01:22:13.239
Zufa is going to be operating at a loss for a

01:22:13.239 --> 01:22:18.979
while. because they're going to have to pay fighters

01:22:18.979 --> 01:22:22.460
to come over, and it's going to cost them more

01:22:22.460 --> 01:22:26.000
than it would for the no -name Russians and Mexicans

01:22:26.000 --> 01:22:31.279
that they have on the prelims. But right now,

01:22:31.359 --> 01:22:33.979
to their benefit, they don't have to pay site

01:22:33.979 --> 01:22:37.840
fees. The Apex is their venue, and it's going

01:22:37.840 --> 01:22:39.840
to be their venue for the foreseeable future.

01:22:40.359 --> 01:22:43.399
And it's a shit venue. It sucks. It's so small.

01:22:44.239 --> 01:22:47.859
It's dead in there. But... It is small. While

01:22:47.859 --> 01:22:51.060
they're building up, it's a free space to use.

01:22:51.979 --> 01:22:54.899
I will say, the one thing I like about the Apex

01:22:54.899 --> 01:22:57.819
is because it's so small and it's kind of quiet,

01:22:57.859 --> 01:22:59.680
you can hear all the punches. So that's the one

01:22:59.680 --> 01:23:01.739
thing I do like about the Apex. Yeah, but there's

01:23:01.739 --> 01:23:05.399
no crowd noise. Like, it's not... It's just a

01:23:05.399 --> 01:23:07.800
fighter's family that you can hear. Yeah, it's

01:23:07.800 --> 01:23:10.340
just like a garage with a boxing ring in it.

01:23:13.039 --> 01:23:16.310
The... The dude that fought Opitaya, Brandon

01:23:16.310 --> 01:23:21.250
Glanton, he was saying on an IG Live or something,

01:23:21.470 --> 01:23:26.770
he was saying that Zufa has been treating him

01:23:26.770 --> 01:23:30.109
better than any other promoter ever has. He has

01:23:30.109 --> 01:23:32.869
access... All the stuff that I'm about to list

01:23:32.869 --> 01:23:36.869
out are free. Meals, training facilities, and

01:23:36.869 --> 01:23:43.739
I think room and board is not... fully comped

01:23:43.739 --> 01:23:47.659
but there is assistance for it if you stay in

01:23:47.659 --> 01:23:52.579
the vegas area so for a guy like glanton or mark

01:23:52.579 --> 01:23:57.039
maxio that honestly this is a really good career

01:23:57.039 --> 01:24:00.119
move for guys like that they're gonna have a

01:24:00.119 --> 01:24:02.140
steady schedule of fights the pay is not gonna

01:24:02.140 --> 01:24:04.920
be as good as you're gonna get elsewhere but

01:24:04.920 --> 01:24:07.760
you're never gonna wonder when is my next fight

01:24:07.760 --> 01:24:13.579
because it's gonna be in like six months That

01:24:13.579 --> 01:24:16.859
makes sense, yeah. And Brandon Glanton isn't

01:24:16.859 --> 01:24:19.420
going to win any of the titles anyways. No, he's

01:24:19.420 --> 01:24:24.260
not. This is the perfect spot for him to be at.

01:24:25.539 --> 01:24:27.640
He's not going to beat Opitaya. He's not going

01:24:27.640 --> 01:24:30.380
to beat Zerdo. He's not going to beat Benavidez.

01:24:32.380 --> 01:24:35.479
Yeah, now he's just making steady income on Zufa.

01:24:36.020 --> 01:24:39.539
It's funny to me because before Zufa and all

01:24:39.539 --> 01:24:42.680
these big name signings like Ben, whatever. Dana

01:24:42.680 --> 01:24:45.880
White was like, boxers make too much money. You

01:24:45.880 --> 01:24:48.220
can't run a business like that. It's crazy. And

01:24:48.220 --> 01:24:50.340
then he fucking switches it. Now Dana's like,

01:24:50.479 --> 01:24:52.100
why is it a bad thing when guys make more money?

01:24:52.680 --> 01:24:53.960
Well, then which is it, Dana White? Do you want

01:24:53.960 --> 01:24:56.539
to not pay too much? Or do you want to pay him

01:24:56.539 --> 01:25:00.140
more? Dana White is a smarmy fucking cocksucker.

01:25:00.659 --> 01:25:03.720
I cannot stand that piece of shit. If he has

01:25:03.720 --> 01:25:07.060
a heart attack tomorrow, I will pretend to call

01:25:07.060 --> 01:25:09.340
911 just to make sure that no one else does.

01:25:11.020 --> 01:25:14.199
I mean, he built up UFC from like ground up,

01:25:14.199 --> 01:25:16.199
like 20 plus years. I get that. He did phenomenal

01:25:16.199 --> 01:25:20.460
with it, but I just don't see him doing the same

01:25:20.460 --> 01:25:21.920
thing in boxing. Honestly, I think it's kind

01:25:21.920 --> 01:25:23.840
of like you said, it's going to be good for those

01:25:23.840 --> 01:25:26.140
guys who will like really never touch gold, but

01:25:26.140 --> 01:25:27.479
they'll still make good money off of fighting

01:25:27.479 --> 01:25:30.680
career. Right. They'll have steady work. They'll

01:25:30.680 --> 01:25:34.859
have access to a gym, to, to a chef and all that

01:25:34.859 --> 01:25:38.340
type of stuff. All the accoutrement that goes

01:25:38.340 --> 01:25:42.590
into being a fighter. that most people don't

01:25:42.590 --> 01:25:46.350
really think about. Who do you think their next

01:25:46.350 --> 01:25:50.590
signing would be? I saw rumors of Andy Ruiz.

01:25:52.710 --> 01:25:55.510
Actually, you know what? That makes a whole lot

01:25:55.510 --> 01:25:57.229
of sense. I could see Ruiz definitely going to

01:25:57.229 --> 01:26:00.770
Zufa. They tried to court Gerald Miller, but

01:26:00.770 --> 01:26:04.869
he signed with Mattroom. I don't know if it's

01:26:04.869 --> 01:26:07.170
been announced yet, but Gerald Miller has pretty

01:26:07.170 --> 01:26:10.220
much confirmed it. I think he went on a podcast

01:26:10.220 --> 01:26:11.840
where he said they weren't offering him as much

01:26:11.840 --> 01:26:14.840
as Mattroom was. Yeah, of course they're not.

01:26:15.800 --> 01:26:19.319
Because Miller, the hairpiece situation, that

01:26:19.319 --> 01:26:22.640
was the most perfect thing that could have ever

01:26:22.640 --> 01:26:24.420
happened for Gerald Miller's career. The best

01:26:24.420 --> 01:26:29.579
thing for his career. Yeah, I mean, I guess to

01:26:29.579 --> 01:26:33.010
sum it up, I like the Zufa cards I've watched

01:26:33.010 --> 01:26:35.750
so far, but I just don't see where this business

01:26:35.750 --> 01:26:38.250
model is going. What's the end goal here? Because

01:26:38.250 --> 01:26:40.989
first it was, you know, Fox is making too much

01:26:40.989 --> 01:26:43.149
money. Now what's wrong with paying them more?

01:26:43.510 --> 01:26:45.829
And now you're trying to poach these high -level

01:26:45.829 --> 01:26:48.470
stars from, like, their contracts and everything,

01:26:48.649 --> 01:26:50.829
but they're not going to come over. Usyk's not

01:26:50.829 --> 01:26:53.430
coming over. AJ's not coming over. Fuck, you

01:26:53.430 --> 01:26:55.670
might get Deontay Wilder. Maybe you might get

01:26:55.670 --> 01:26:57.710
Deontay Wilder. At this point of his career,

01:26:57.810 --> 01:27:01.739
yes. Yeah. But is that what Zufa's going to be?

01:27:01.760 --> 01:27:04.060
It's going to be low -level pros and washed -up

01:27:04.060 --> 01:27:06.760
stars? Retirement League and Development League?

01:27:08.539 --> 01:27:10.039
I mean, if that's what they want to do, then

01:27:10.039 --> 01:27:13.479
so be it. But I just... I don't know. The whole

01:27:13.479 --> 01:27:16.539
model to me just doesn't make sense. I know that

01:27:16.539 --> 01:27:24.220
Robert Garcia does... He doesn't mind Zufa. Because

01:27:24.220 --> 01:27:28.880
all of his... All the kids at his gym... boxing

01:27:28.880 --> 01:27:32.600
academy the rgba all of his kids like they're

01:27:32.600 --> 01:27:36.420
he's getting calls for them to get work so he's

01:27:36.420 --> 01:27:39.739
like fuck yeah i want to get my kids paid that's

01:27:39.739 --> 01:27:45.039
fair i mean listen hopefully it blossoms to something

01:27:45.039 --> 01:27:50.659
great otherwise i hope it fucking dies pro pro

01:27:50.659 --> 01:27:54.560
box is in the same like kind of niche that zufa

01:27:54.560 --> 01:27:57.590
is right now and pro box does a better And when

01:27:57.590 --> 01:28:00.149
their guys get too good for pro box, they're

01:28:00.149 --> 01:28:04.149
like, go spread your wings. Like we're not going

01:28:04.149 --> 01:28:10.510
to keep you caged here. Yeah. Yeah. That I, that

01:28:10.510 --> 01:28:14.050
is something I absolutely appreciate about pro

01:28:14.050 --> 01:28:18.390
box, like Lamont Roach, Angelo, Leo, Leo, Lester

01:28:18.390 --> 01:28:21.949
Martinez. Martinez is getting on the verge. He's

01:28:21.949 --> 01:28:27.520
going to be leaving. Yeah. And, like, career

01:28:27.520 --> 01:28:33.840
rehab? Like, what I don't like, and it's what

01:28:33.840 --> 01:28:37.359
we don't know about their contract model. Because

01:28:37.359 --> 01:28:40.300
if we're talking about it as a development league,

01:28:40.420 --> 01:28:43.979
Zufa, I mean, then cool. If they're on, like,

01:28:44.000 --> 01:28:47.319
a four -fight contract, cool. But what happens

01:28:47.319 --> 01:28:50.340
at the end of four? Are they automatically renewed?

01:28:50.579 --> 01:28:54.159
Like, the way that UFC guys are? I think those

01:28:54.159 --> 01:28:56.420
young guys are signing the six -year contracts.

01:28:57.159 --> 01:29:02.739
Six years? Well, if they're, like, 18, that is,

01:29:02.739 --> 01:29:05.600
like, development time. Sure, that's fair, actually.

01:29:05.680 --> 01:29:08.380
Yeah, that makes sense. But if they stay there,

01:29:08.500 --> 01:29:14.520
that's the problem. I don't know. Fuck Zufo.

01:29:14.600 --> 01:29:16.520
Yeah, there's too many unanswered questions about

01:29:16.520 --> 01:29:20.819
it. Also, it's not fun. They don't get to wear

01:29:20.819 --> 01:29:24.420
cool clothes. They don't get to, like, Zufa's

01:29:24.420 --> 01:29:28.279
anti -fun. The belt's ugly. They have to wear

01:29:28.279 --> 01:29:33.159
uniform shorts. I saw one fight they didn't even

01:29:33.159 --> 01:29:36.939
have the guy's names. Or, like, you know how

01:29:36.939 --> 01:29:41.840
it's, like, black shorts, white shorts? Yeah,

01:29:41.859 --> 01:29:45.399
yeah. Yeah, I'm like, this is, this sucks. Everything

01:29:45.399 --> 01:29:48.199
about this sucks. I think it's, I think they're,

01:29:48.260 --> 01:29:50.380
like, doing the UFC model, right? Where it's

01:29:50.380 --> 01:29:52.460
like no sponsorships, nothing on the shorts or

01:29:52.460 --> 01:29:55.560
anything. Yeah, but it's boring. Like, I know

01:29:55.560 --> 01:29:58.920
you were saying how Dana built up the UFC, but

01:29:58.920 --> 01:30:02.460
the UFC was fun when it started. It was. It was.

01:30:02.779 --> 01:30:06.979
After he got rid of all the competition, Dana

01:30:06.979 --> 01:30:11.619
stripped all the fun from the UFC. Yeah, I mean,

01:30:11.640 --> 01:30:13.359
I know, and I'm sure Leo, you guys talked about

01:30:13.359 --> 01:30:16.000
the UFC podcast too, that UFC right now itself

01:30:16.000 --> 01:30:19.789
is like not in a good place. It's a plateau almost,

01:30:19.930 --> 01:30:22.590
right? It's plateauing. It's not getting better.

01:30:22.810 --> 01:30:27.050
It's not doing too hot either, though. The last

01:30:27.050 --> 01:30:30.529
time I watched UFC was the early 2000s, and they

01:30:30.529 --> 01:30:34.630
were still allowed to have fun shorts and stuff.

01:30:35.029 --> 01:30:39.729
It sounds so stupid, but I like that the fighters

01:30:39.729 --> 01:30:43.109
in boxing can express their personality a little.

01:30:44.320 --> 01:30:46.819
Oh, that's fair. I get that. UFC has stripped

01:30:46.819 --> 01:30:49.720
the personality from the fighters. They want

01:30:49.720 --> 01:30:52.659
you to not even care about the individuals and

01:30:52.659 --> 01:30:56.119
just like, oh, it's a UFC fight, I'll watch it.

01:30:56.199 --> 01:30:58.000
It's not like they don't want you to be fans

01:30:58.000 --> 01:31:01.600
of a certain person. Yeah, I mean, at the end

01:31:01.600 --> 01:31:03.699
of the day, they're employees, right? Their whole

01:31:03.699 --> 01:31:05.359
motto is like, hey, you're an employee to the

01:31:05.359 --> 01:31:09.880
UFC, so it's not like boxing. Yeah, boxing, you're

01:31:09.880 --> 01:31:14.180
like a person. Yeah, like... It's promotions,

01:31:14.359 --> 01:31:16.720
events, contractors, whatever. Like, I mean,

01:31:16.720 --> 01:31:19.420
I guess with the UFC, they are technically 1099s,

01:31:19.420 --> 01:31:21.760
if I'm not wrong. Yeah, they are independent

01:31:21.760 --> 01:31:25.220
contractors. Yeah, but they're under UFC's, like,

01:31:25.239 --> 01:31:27.899
rules, regulations, and shit like that. Whereas

01:31:27.899 --> 01:31:29.979
boxing, it's like, hey, you're contractors, but,

01:31:29.979 --> 01:31:32.640
you know, do your thing. Yeah, if you can make

01:31:32.640 --> 01:31:35.300
money off of your own name, go for it. Yeah.

01:31:37.020 --> 01:31:39.460
Yeah, I mean, that's pretty much it. I wanted

01:31:39.460 --> 01:31:40.859
to go over that, because I wasn't sure what your

01:31:40.859 --> 01:31:42.359
guys' thoughts were on Sufa and, you know, maybe

01:31:42.359 --> 01:31:46.199
his future. I don't like it, and I'm kind of

01:31:46.199 --> 01:31:51.140
hoping it bombs. I'm hoping they blow all their

01:31:51.140 --> 01:31:53.920
money on these big signings and it doesn't work.

01:31:54.579 --> 01:31:57.039
I don't know, with Turkey backing it, I don't

01:31:57.039 --> 01:31:58.859
think they were going to go broke. Because Turkey,

01:31:58.939 --> 01:32:02.960
I think Turkey's like a 60 % owner of TTO. Turkey's

01:32:02.960 --> 01:32:05.680
going to get bored. Turkey's going to get bored.

01:32:06.260 --> 01:32:09.180
As Josh puts it, it's like he's going to get

01:32:09.180 --> 01:32:12.700
tired of playing with his action figures. Yeah.

01:32:12.700 --> 01:32:15.520
On to the next sport, right? Yeah. Like, they

01:32:15.520 --> 01:32:19.119
do tennis, golf. They have a... Saudi Arabia

01:32:19.119 --> 01:32:22.260
now has, like, a fucking soccer league that they

01:32:22.260 --> 01:32:26.279
signed Cristiano Ronaldo. Yeah, I didn't see

01:32:26.279 --> 01:32:28.479
that. Wait till they discover American football.

01:32:30.720 --> 01:32:35.140
We'll see, I guess. Maybe he'll get more. Well,

01:32:35.239 --> 01:32:38.199
this has been a fucking good conversation, but

01:32:38.199 --> 01:32:40.829
we gotta get it out of here. Yep, let's wrap

01:32:40.829 --> 01:32:45.090
it up. So, we're heading into Moses Atalma Weekend.

01:32:45.770 --> 01:32:53.510
Parting words. Moses in three. And that's coming

01:32:53.510 --> 01:32:58.689
from me. I'm more excited about Fundora. The

01:32:58.689 --> 01:33:02.869
card's not as good, but... Yeah, Fundora beat

01:33:02.869 --> 01:33:04.770
on Old Man Thurman. It'll be fun to watch, too.

01:33:05.369 --> 01:33:09.420
We'll finally be rid of Thurman. Wait, can I

01:33:09.420 --> 01:33:11.060
add in one piece real quick before we wrap it

01:33:11.060 --> 01:33:16.060
up? Fire away? Fury versus Makhmudov. What an

01:33:16.060 --> 01:33:18.640
interesting fight. We know what it's for, obviously.

01:33:20.340 --> 01:33:22.460
Yeah, they just picked the guy that looks like

01:33:22.460 --> 01:33:27.380
a bad guy in the movie. Fury, the superstar Brit

01:33:27.380 --> 01:33:30.659
versus the scary Russian. Yeah, yeah. He looks

01:33:30.659 --> 01:33:35.859
like a Neanderthal. He really kind of does. I'm

01:33:35.859 --> 01:33:37.220
sure you guys already talked about it in my absence,

01:33:37.319 --> 01:33:42.779
but... The Usyk versus the Rico one. Boo. That's

01:33:42.779 --> 01:33:46.100
just such a waste of time. Get your money, Usyk,

01:33:46.100 --> 01:33:49.479
but this is a stupid fight. He said he's only

01:33:49.479 --> 01:33:53.060
got three fight stuff that was like Rico, maybe

01:33:53.060 --> 01:33:56.899
Dubois. Wardley Dubois winner. Wardley Dubois

01:33:56.899 --> 01:34:00.720
winner. And then Fury 3. Nobody wants Fury 3.

01:34:01.039 --> 01:34:05.340
Nobody wants Fury 3. But I guess I think I said

01:34:05.340 --> 01:34:08.250
it in the chat earlier. I wonder if Usyk wants

01:34:08.250 --> 01:34:10.970
Fury 3 just because he knows he can bully Usyk

01:34:10.970 --> 01:34:13.390
into an easy payday. I mean, bully Fury into

01:34:13.390 --> 01:34:15.909
an easy payday. Like, because he knows Fury can't

01:34:15.909 --> 01:34:17.310
hurt him. He knows he can beat him pretty comfortably.

01:34:18.010 --> 01:34:19.550
Yeah. I wonder if he's taking that third fight

01:34:19.550 --> 01:34:21.069
just to, like, kind of bully him for, like, an

01:34:21.069 --> 01:34:25.210
easy payday. And Rafa's on set. Honestly, I kind

01:34:25.210 --> 01:34:29.369
of wish Usyk would have retired after his last

01:34:29.369 --> 01:34:31.970
fight. That was the perfect place to retire.

01:34:32.770 --> 01:34:38.149
Yeah, I agree. To me. I agree. I agree. All right.

01:34:38.149 --> 01:34:39.369
Nothing more for me. I don't want to hold you

01:34:39.369 --> 01:34:45.909
guys up anymore. Well, I'm going to leave you

01:34:45.909 --> 01:34:51.409
guys with maybe something to think about. Do

01:34:51.409 --> 01:35:07.550
Roman paramedics refer to IVs as fours? If only

01:35:07.550 --> 01:35:14.270
you all could see how far back in your skulls

01:35:14.270 --> 01:35:17.909
your eyes rolled. Don't worry, Leo. They'll all

01:35:17.909 --> 01:35:20.869
have the same look on their face. That might

01:35:20.869 --> 01:35:22.550
be when someone just closed out the podcast.

01:35:22.949 --> 01:35:25.949
Yeah, done. All right. That might be like the

01:35:25.949 --> 01:35:29.770
slams laptop moment. That's why I put it at the

01:35:29.770 --> 01:35:33.850
end. All right. Drip, it's been great having

01:35:33.850 --> 01:35:37.890
you back. Likewise. That is it for this edition

01:35:37.890 --> 01:35:41.270
of Boxing Before Dark. My batteries are getting

01:35:41.270 --> 01:35:44.010
low. And it is getting dark.