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The B -Side in boxing. B -Side shit. B -Side.

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B -Side. And the B -Side. You got a B -Side.

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The B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. The B

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-Side thing. This is the B -Sides Boxing Podcast.

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Alright. Timer is running. Holy shit. It is the

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Boxing B -Sides. We're having a fucking roadhouse

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of a day. Joined by Saul, the one and only. What's

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up, guys? Happy to be back after two long weeks.

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And Josh. What's up? Caddio man. Caddio man.

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All right. Don't have a lot of MMA to recap.

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But there has been some pretty monumental news.

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This is like big in the sporting world in general.

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Before we get to that, first things first, Matchroom

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Talent Agency, this fresh new company that Eddie

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Hearn stood up specifically to sign UFC heavyweight

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champion Tom Aspinall to a management deal. It's

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pretty obvious. This is Eddie Hearn's retaliation

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to Conor Benn. All I can really take away from

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this is if Eddie can get Tom the money he fucking

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deserves, hopefully others will take notice.

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And they don't necessarily have to sign with

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Eddie, but they'll start negotiating for better

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pay because, like, fuck UFC and their pay model.

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Fuck him right in the fucking butt. But, yeah,

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Tom Aspinall, he is now BFFs with Eddie Hearn.

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So isn't that fun? Now, the UFC White House card.

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The shit has been in the news since it was announced

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like a fucking year ago. And the lineup has finally

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been released. The event is called UFC... Freedom

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250. Yeah, she's asked. Oh, my God. Bone nickel

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on the card, right? Yes. Oh, man. So, I forget

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what the term is for 250 years. It's like bi

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-quintennial or whatever the fuck. I don't remember.

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But that is the overall event. Freedom 250 is

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the brand. Sestercentennial. Is that what it

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is? Yes, or semi -quincentennial. Semi -quincentennial

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is what I was trying to get at. Yeah, sestercentennial

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is also, yeah. So the way that I liken it is

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if I say September 11th, 2001, you know what

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that day is. But if I say 9 -11, there's a whole

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lot more that gets wrapped up into that, like

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all the fucking music that came out, all the...

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uh you're either with us or against us type of

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talk all that bullshit that happened back then

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so freedom 250 it's kind of what that is it's

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unfortunate that they're commandeering my beloved

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for this but let's go down the card real quick

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at the top ilia taporia the lightweight champion

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is going to be consolidating with Justin Gaethje,

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the interim champ. Alex Pajera will be fighting

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Cyril Ghosn for the interim heavyweight title.

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The aforementioned Tom Aspinall is still recovering

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from surgery. Yeah, from... Cyril Ghosn. Cyril

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Ghosn. Yep. So, prayers up for AP's eyes. Sean

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O'Malley, an all -American kid, bantamweight,

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fighting Ayman Zahabi. My thinking here is that

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they got a Middle Eastern dude to get beat up.

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Because there are better options for Sean O'Malley

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to face, but we got this. Yeah, I've heard of

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a guy named Sandhagen that they want him to fight.

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Yes, Corey Sandhagen is a very good choice. Mauricio

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Hufi versus Michael Chandler. Michael Chandler's

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a big MAGA dude, so no surprise there. Are you

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going to get his ass beat? Yes. He's well past

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his prime. Unfortunately for Mikey Chan, it's

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not going to be a good night. Mikey Chan's great.

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Bo Nickel. The aforementioned, he's like an all

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-American Division I wrestler or whatever. So

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naturally he's going to be on the card with the

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fucking gimme opponent. And Diego Lopez versus

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Steve Garcia. This is just an action fight. So,

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fun. But there you have it. I do want to say

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that it's funny that about all the rumors surrounding

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the event. I'm pretty sure you guys... obviously

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i've talked about this on ultimate fucking casual

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shout out to isaac and nathan and leo over there

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but it's funny how this card was played up to

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be the biggest card not just of the year but

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in ever year history yeah exactly you're talking

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about john jones versus alex perea and then apparently

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i even heard ilia tapuria versus makachev Yes,

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that was all of the rumors of fights that fell

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through, or a fight that fell through. Like,

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Jon Jones was first AP. That was one of the big,

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like, is it this one? But it was Ilya Zaporio

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versus Islam Makachev. That was supposed to be

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on here. And then I also heard that Conor McGregor,

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his day got moved back fucking until July. He'll

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be on a numbered event. like UFC 330 or something

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like that, or 329. So he'll still be on a major

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event, but just not this one. He just didn't

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want to waste him on there. And one thing I do

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want to say, I just want to point out to Matt,

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again, I feel like they, I just want to go back

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to the original point with Matt Strum and Tom

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Aspinall. I just wanted to bring up that this

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can shake up the whole entire UFC system. I mean,

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it could pretty much become a union at that point

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if they have Eddie Hearn, leading the charge

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of negotiating fighter pay with Dana White. You

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know, get them all paid their well -deserved

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money. So, you know, I got to hand it to Eddie

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Hurton. That's kind of fucking funny. Dana White

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started this problem for himself by paying Conor

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Benn 15 mil for a bullshit fight. He started

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this. He's bringing this on himself. So it's

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no surprise, like Sean O'Malley and others, like

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Michael Venom Page, those have been two very

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vocal critics of the Conor Benn signing. Understandably,

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they're like, where's my 15 mil? All the work

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that I put in, all the risks that I take to build

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up not just myself, but to build up UFC as a

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brand, where the fuck is my compensation? Yeah.

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So, yeah. Rightfully so. Absolutely. I hope that

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Tom Aspinall, like, I had said it kind of jokingly.

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I've said it before. Like, is Eddie Hearn saving

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American boxing? Now, is Eddie Hearn saving UFC?

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Oh, my God. He is saving MMA. Is he saving MMA

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right now? God. He might be killing UFC by the

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way. Or at least Dana White's involvement in

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the UFC. Cry me a river. Oh, yeah. That guy's

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hilarious. Yeah, he can go turn tomato red somewhere

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else. For me, what's paramount is fighter safety,

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fighter compensation. These are the dudes that

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are taking the risks, so they should be paid

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for it. But anything more for... A little bit

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of MMA news. All right. So like Saul, like you

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mentioned, we're going to be talking about this

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very extensively over on Ultimate F and Casuals.

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So wherever you get podcasts, that's where you

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can get that. Let's get into boxing news. Motherfucking

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Virgil. We're starting off with your client.

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Saul Goodman oh yeah so shout out Isaac the other

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half of my Virgil bro my Virgil bro deal the

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Virgil bromance yeah my Virgil bromance if Isaac

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and Saul die Virgil has no more fans yeah that's

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facts actually that's not facts because Virgil

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has a lot of fans so fuck you guys I don't know

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I think the Freudian slip was the first one So

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the legal move which Virgil undertook as we understand

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it under the advice of Rick Morigian. Is it Morigian

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or Morigian? I've never heard his name said out

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loud. Just Rick. Rick Motherfucker. Rick Butthead.

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He advised Virgil to try to legally maneuvered

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his way out of his Golden Boy contract so that

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he could negotiate with Matchroom for the boots

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fight. And the judge put a stop to it, has called

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for arbitration. And in his clapback Thursday,

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Oscar has, I don't know, take his word for whatever

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you value it to be. He has said, like, I have

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no ill will towards Virgil. It's just Rick is

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a dickhead. This is just going to be, you're

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going to burn up your capital fighting me in

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court. So let's sit down and talk like men. I

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don't know. Saul, you're the Virgil bro. What

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do you got here? Well, as much as I'm very critical

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of Golden Boy and Oscar himself, my point, my

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standing is that it wasn't so much on the part

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of Virgil, but more as manager that kind of fucked

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him over. I did a little bit of research and

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I got a feeling that since Oscar was kind of

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losing the DA the DA zone contract that Rick

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merging kind of saw the opportunity to break

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away from a virtual break away from Oscar and

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one of the clauses in virtual contract is that

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the Oscar golden boy has to have a relationship

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with a network now that relationship can either

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be and I guess this will Oscar argued That a

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relationship could be like a swerve TV. Yeah,

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swerve TV. Or he's working with PBC, you know,

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something. He could put Golden Boy on BLK Prime.

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That could be considered a relationship with

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the network. There just has to be an outlet for

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Virgil's fights. Exactly, for boxing. Exactly.

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And I think that's what screwed Virgil over.

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I'm not going to say that Oscar is innocent because

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Oscar is also holding Virgil back from a money

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fight. Also, the fact that Virgil's only, I think,

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max pay, this is kind of what started it, that

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Virgil's max pay was $3 million guaranteed. When

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he wanted more, he wanted to equal the pay he

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got from the Madrigal fight, which was a Riyadh

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season card, where if he went to Saudi Arabia,

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he would be given more money. So there's a lot

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of politics involved. So I see there's a lot

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of... A lot of shit to go around. You know. Mainly

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on a good portion of it on Rick Meridian. Yes.

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That he does seem to be like the objectively

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bad player in this whole fucking charade or act

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that we have going on isn't. Didn't a matchroom

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offer like 10 million plus guaranteed? I believe

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so. Yes. But I think it was also a multi -fight

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deal match. Oh, that's right. Yeah, it was. Which

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included the boots fight. However, honestly,

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I mean, again, we kind of see the writing on

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the wall with Golden Boy. They're kind of going

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out of business. It's unfortunate. Yeah, exactly.

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It would be good for Virgil to leave, but his

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contract's not up until, I believe, August of

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2027. And if until that time, you know, he has

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a couple little fights here and there, he could

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ride it out and still make money. Versus if,

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you know, he doesn't fight at all. He doesn't

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Mike Garcia and just wait out his contract, you

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know. Let the time run out. Yeah, let the time

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run out. I mean, he loses two valuable years.

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He could fight it out. Is it strictly time -based,

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or is there like X number of fights and then

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more time? His contract is up, I think, in August

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2027. And that's at that point that he could

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renegotiate or he could just find another promo.

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I believe that's what I saw. And honestly, it's

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kind of sad to see that potentially Virgil won't

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be able to fight throughout all of 2027. Which

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I believe, honestly, the only way he fights again

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might be if he gets a shot at a title. Because

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I even see myself that. I think Virgil's pretty,

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pretty, what's the word? He's going to leave

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Golden Boy. He's made it very public that he

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is going to leave Golden Boy. He made a tweet

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about it. You know, he's gone. He doesn't want

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to work with Oscar anymore. So if he's trying

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to sever the relationship, then I feel like he's,

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instead of trying to negotiate with Golden Boy

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for better pay and an extended contract, he's

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just going to try to buy his way out. That's

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what I see. That's my prediction. He's just going

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to try to buy his way out through arbitration.

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But I feel like Oscar's going to be petty and

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just ride it out. Josh, how are you feeling?

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No, I don't disagree. It's a rough situation

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for Virgil to be in. As funny as the Virgil no

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world title bit is, it's a shame he's not going

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to be in the ring anytime soon as a result of

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the legal troubles. Did it end up being true

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that if he had just waited a week, he would have

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been able to negotiate the boot swipe? Not sure.

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That I hadn't heard. I did hear something about

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how if he had just waited it out, he would have

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been able to negotiate without getting into a

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pile of shit. I think that was just from an independent

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news outlet. It's unverified, but if it's true,

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then my opinion flips. If that is true, that

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he could have just waited a week, I'm going to

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blame it on Rick and say Rick is a dickhead and

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he misguided. Virgil to pull the trigger a little

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too early. Exactly. 100%. And also, Golden Boy,

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Oscar himself is not vindicated from it, or is

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not free from hate, because honestly, the stuff

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that he says on his Cloudback Thursdays, I mean,

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that can also hinder on the ability to get a

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fight for Virgil, for talking all this smack

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about Eddie. And everybody else throwing caca

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at everybody. Especially his dad. Exactly. If

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you can't land a version of the fight, that's

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also from, yes, the manager, but also from a

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promoter's standpoint as well. You're not able

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to get your fight or that fight. You can't throw

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your weight around. Oscar doesn't have any weight.

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No, not anymore. I mean, really, why would PBC

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want to fight Virgil if the WBC is not going

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to mandate it? Sebastian Fundora is just going

00:18:05.420 --> 00:18:09.779
to fight Errol Spence, as they've been trying

00:18:09.779 --> 00:18:12.420
to do. That's not even a joke, seriously. They're

00:18:12.420 --> 00:18:14.119
going to have Sebastian Fundora fight Thurman,

00:18:14.220 --> 00:18:19.059
and most likely the winner between Zhu and Spence,

00:18:19.079 --> 00:18:22.940
probably if Spence wins. If Spence wins, it's

00:18:22.940 --> 00:18:26.460
going to be Fundora -Spence, yes. Exactly. And

00:18:26.460 --> 00:18:28.500
they're going to make a big old thing about it

00:18:28.500 --> 00:18:30.339
saying Spence is back. But that's some bullshit

00:18:30.339 --> 00:18:35.539
because Virgil's been the number one guy at the

00:18:35.539 --> 00:18:39.599
WBC. He got the interim title. So I don't wish

00:18:39.599 --> 00:18:42.720
bad on Sebastian Fundora. I don't. I don't want

00:18:42.720 --> 00:18:44.480
him to be injured because he's a great fighter.

00:18:44.599 --> 00:18:47.259
And this is just the politics of where he's at.

00:18:48.140 --> 00:18:51.140
But the only way for Virgil to get that WBC title

00:18:51.140 --> 00:18:55.019
is if Fundora gets injured and is out for...

00:18:55.319 --> 00:19:02.680
A year. Or. If Thurman. Wins and retires. On

00:19:02.680 --> 00:19:05.119
top of the title. That's the only way Virgil

00:19:05.119 --> 00:19:07.400
is going to be able to get that. WBC trinket.

00:19:09.559 --> 00:19:12.539
Because otherwise. He ain't seen shit. He should

00:19:12.539 --> 00:19:17.759
vacate. And honestly. And this might be. This

00:19:17.759 --> 00:19:20.880
might piss some people off. It might piss Isaac

00:19:20.880 --> 00:19:25.950
off a little bit too. So. Sorry. But. Virgil

00:19:25.950 --> 00:19:32.170
is probably the best case for Zufa. That's probably

00:19:32.170 --> 00:19:34.750
the best fighter they can get. Because if I were

00:19:34.750 --> 00:19:37.289
Virgil, I would be pissed at how my promoters

00:19:37.289 --> 00:19:39.509
were working, how these belt organizations are

00:19:39.509 --> 00:19:41.670
treating me, knowing I'm the best guy in this

00:19:41.670 --> 00:19:44.269
division, but I'm getting screwed over. You'd

00:19:44.269 --> 00:19:48.230
have to move up to 160. He's going to have to

00:19:48.230 --> 00:19:50.990
beat fucking Callum Walsh. 160 will have a much

00:19:50.990 --> 00:19:54.930
easier... But even then, for the WBC, I mean,

00:19:54.970 --> 00:19:57.470
that's getting... That's Adame's. That's Adame's

00:19:57.470 --> 00:20:01.049
and Ramos' land right there, you know? I mean,

00:20:01.069 --> 00:20:04.630
come on. If Virgil really wanted the title, honestly,

00:20:04.809 --> 00:20:06.670
the only way he's going to get it is through

00:20:06.670 --> 00:20:09.190
injury or he goes to Zufa. And he says, fuck

00:20:09.190 --> 00:20:12.529
you to everybody else. And honestly, I'm not

00:20:12.529 --> 00:20:13.509
going to say I wouldn't blame him because I would

00:20:13.509 --> 00:20:16.150
kind of turn my back on Virgil for that. That's

00:20:16.150 --> 00:20:18.769
still bullshit, but that would make sense. That's

00:20:18.769 --> 00:20:22.069
a cardinal saying, he's going to Zufa. Exactly.

00:20:22.069 --> 00:20:27.410
But that would make sense. Why? Because he's

00:20:27.410 --> 00:20:30.950
getting fucked. You're not a champion. You're

00:20:30.950 --> 00:20:34.750
a guy that's getting screwed over politics. You

00:20:34.750 --> 00:20:43.130
know? I've said for quite some time it's it's

00:20:43.130 --> 00:20:49.450
weird how WBC is often I don't know if it's often

00:20:49.450 --> 00:20:53.279
but it's From what I've gathered, like in my

00:20:53.279 --> 00:20:56.440
journeys, my travels online and everything, it

00:20:56.440 --> 00:21:00.779
seems to be held as like the most prestigious

00:21:00.779 --> 00:21:05.059
title that you could get. Yeah. But they are

00:21:05.059 --> 00:21:09.900
the most fucky with their rules. Like being an

00:21:09.900 --> 00:21:14.000
interim champ. Now, say what you want about UFC.

00:21:15.140 --> 00:21:19.000
Justin Gaethje won the interim title because

00:21:19.000 --> 00:21:23.789
Ilya Teporia. had legal issues so he was like

00:21:23.789 --> 00:21:26.349
dealing with a divorce and custody battle for

00:21:26.349 --> 00:21:28.869
his kid it was looking like he was going to be

00:21:28.869 --> 00:21:31.289
out for the majority of the year he ends up getting

00:21:31.289 --> 00:21:34.829
his stuff settled and now they're consolidating

00:21:34.829 --> 00:21:39.710
it immediately now how long has virgil had the

00:21:39.710 --> 00:21:42.170
interim title how many fights has he how many

00:21:42.170 --> 00:21:45.269
times has he defended the interim title like

00:21:45.269 --> 00:21:49.529
what the fuck does that even mean um it's That

00:21:49.529 --> 00:21:53.769
is where world championship aspirations go to

00:21:53.769 --> 00:22:01.730
die is WBC interim belt holder. Just me, me,

00:22:01.869 --> 00:22:03.970
I don't know, just calling it like I see it.

00:22:05.690 --> 00:22:08.990
WBC is pretty fucking scummy with their interim

00:22:08.990 --> 00:22:15.250
stuff. Worse than WBA, maybe. Is that too much?

00:22:15.289 --> 00:22:17.359
Is that a... A little bit too far? That's a bit

00:22:17.359 --> 00:22:24.799
too much. Yeah, you're right. Still. Virgil deserves

00:22:24.799 --> 00:22:32.039
better. I think if he goes to arbitration, if

00:22:32.039 --> 00:22:35.140
he is truly determined to get out of his golden

00:22:35.140 --> 00:22:40.740
boy situation, I wonder if Eddie Hearn would

00:22:40.740 --> 00:22:43.400
be willing to put up the cash to buy him out.

00:22:46.059 --> 00:22:50.079
That comes with... Just because you get more

00:22:50.079 --> 00:22:53.059
out of him than the boots fight? Absolutely.

00:22:53.140 --> 00:22:57.099
You have him on a multi -fight deal. Yeah, you

00:22:57.099 --> 00:23:00.380
have a guy. You don't only get the boots fight,

00:23:00.480 --> 00:23:04.099
super fight out of it. You get the right to Virgil's

00:23:04.099 --> 00:23:09.839
rebuild. You get the boots rematch. Or if he

00:23:09.839 --> 00:23:12.319
wins, you get the right... If he wins, you get

00:23:12.319 --> 00:23:14.920
a new Mexican star. yeah like you either like

00:23:14.920 --> 00:23:17.759
there's no loss because virgil filling in an

00:23:17.759 --> 00:23:21.279
undercard on the rebuild is having him as your

00:23:21.279 --> 00:23:24.079
co -main like what a what a sales pitch so easy

00:23:24.079 --> 00:23:26.519
every time every time it's and you don't and

00:23:26.519 --> 00:23:29.059
the thing is that like you get him at an all

00:23:29.059 --> 00:23:31.779
-time low in value because this is a guy who

00:23:31.779 --> 00:23:34.660
has trouble show who has had trouble showing

00:23:34.660 --> 00:23:39.759
up to a fight uh who has not been in the spotlight

00:23:39.759 --> 00:23:45.009
for ages right Like, you buy low on him, and

00:23:45.009 --> 00:23:49.990
you just get all the value. Well, I'll tell you

00:23:49.990 --> 00:23:53.650
this. You put Bam and Virgil, dual headline in

00:23:53.650 --> 00:23:58.230
Texas. You're selling out that much. No, that

00:23:58.230 --> 00:24:02.470
sells, dude. That sells. Bam and Virgil in Texas?

00:24:04.549 --> 00:24:08.589
That is like, that would be to me. The second

00:24:08.589 --> 00:24:12.130
iteration, there used to be Triple G and Roman

00:24:12.130 --> 00:24:14.930
Gonzalez. It was the big drama show and the little

00:24:14.930 --> 00:24:19.230
drama show. Virgil and Bam, that's fucking 2

00:24:19.230 --> 00:24:26.829
.0. That's it right there. Let's keep it rolling

00:24:26.829 --> 00:24:33.170
here. USA Boxing, the amateur system in the States,

00:24:33.349 --> 00:24:36.569
withdraws their support for the Oli Revival Act.

00:24:37.719 --> 00:24:42.380
uh naturally this is a good thing the only thing

00:24:42.380 --> 00:24:46.839
i'm curious about is what is the rationale i

00:24:46.839 --> 00:24:48.720
that's all i want i just want to hear what the

00:24:48.720 --> 00:24:51.279
thinking process was why did you support it in

00:24:51.279 --> 00:24:53.480
the first place and why are you withdrawing support

00:24:53.480 --> 00:24:58.799
now uh you know it i'm more than happy to see

00:24:58.799 --> 00:25:02.500
another like a big power player as an opponent

00:25:02.500 --> 00:25:05.859
to this i just want to hear the thinking that's

00:25:05.859 --> 00:25:12.119
all What's your theory, Leo? I think Shanada

00:25:12.119 --> 00:25:17.180
had it right when she said they actually read

00:25:17.180 --> 00:25:25.079
the thing. All you gotta do is read it. It sounds

00:25:25.079 --> 00:25:28.940
great on the surface. All the numbers and the

00:25:28.940 --> 00:25:32.160
minimums and all that stuff sounds great on the

00:25:32.160 --> 00:25:39.000
surface. In broader context, not that great for

00:25:39.000 --> 00:25:46.980
boxing. Professional boxing, I'll say. Man, this

00:25:46.980 --> 00:25:53.380
is actually a good time to put your plan into

00:25:53.380 --> 00:25:56.119
motion. So let's see if we can get somebody from

00:25:56.119 --> 00:26:00.079
USA Boxing to talk about it. Comment on this.

00:26:00.140 --> 00:26:04.650
Yeah. Just give me a blurb. I'll take it. We'll

00:26:04.650 --> 00:26:10.150
see. Even anybody. Yeah. I would love to hear

00:26:10.150 --> 00:26:14.230
from the athletes. Did they read it? Did somebody

00:26:14.230 --> 00:26:19.890
brief them on it? What's the deal here? You do

00:26:19.890 --> 00:26:23.109
a good interview. But like I said to Shanada,

00:26:23.230 --> 00:26:25.690
all you had to do was call Lux Media. Bitch,

00:26:25.730 --> 00:26:28.450
I fucking read the thing. I watched all of it.

00:26:28.450 --> 00:26:31.160
All of us read the thing. We all read it. We,

00:26:31.279 --> 00:26:34.099
I, I, I did. I know I posted the videos for you

00:26:34.099 --> 00:26:35.920
guys. I don't know if you watched them, but all

00:26:35.920 --> 00:26:38.759
of the house committee hearings and sessions

00:26:38.759 --> 00:26:42.960
for the revival act, I watched like fucking hours

00:26:42.960 --> 00:26:48.599
of congressional hearings. And they weren't even

00:26:48.599 --> 00:26:51.279
hiding it. Like what, how bad this was going

00:26:51.279 --> 00:26:56.299
to be. No, the, I honestly was pretty upset that

00:26:56.299 --> 00:26:59.480
they got Muhammad Ali's wife to speak in support

00:26:59.480 --> 00:27:03.569
of it. I think they gave her the surface level.

00:27:03.750 --> 00:27:06.609
Like, look, we're going to increase fighter minimums

00:27:06.609 --> 00:27:09.109
and insurance and things like that. And doctors.

00:27:09.430 --> 00:27:12.049
Yeah. It sounds good. It sounds great. It does

00:27:12.049 --> 00:27:14.789
sound good. Like, it sounds good when you obfuscate

00:27:14.789 --> 00:27:21.410
all the, like, the real purpose and... how you're

00:27:21.410 --> 00:27:23.809
gonna get there what are the third and fourth

00:27:23.809 --> 00:27:26.069
order effects of what we're trying to accomplish

00:27:26.069 --> 00:27:28.509
with this yeah like yeah yeah surface level like

00:27:28.509 --> 00:27:30.789
yeah fighter minimums but i'm like this is gonna

00:27:30.789 --> 00:27:33.410
this opens the door to basically permanently

00:27:33.410 --> 00:27:38.069
curtail fighter maximums yeah and destroy small

00:27:38.069 --> 00:27:41.170
and destroy small promoters by putting a lot

00:27:41.170 --> 00:27:43.210
of the costs on them instead of the commission

00:27:43.210 --> 00:27:50.440
you destroy entry level is dead You destroy small

00:27:50.440 --> 00:27:55.140
promoters and you basically gain the power to

00:27:55.140 --> 00:28:00.299
curtail fighter maximums. And you create, when

00:28:00.299 --> 00:28:03.940
you kill the grassroots, you create a scenario

00:28:03.940 --> 00:28:10.099
like UFC has now, where they have, if you go

00:28:10.099 --> 00:28:13.460
to UFC Fight Pass, they have like 15 fucking

00:28:13.460 --> 00:28:16.579
promotions that all fight on UFC Fight Pass.

00:28:16.700 --> 00:28:19.440
And they're all farm leagues. That's all it is.

00:28:19.980 --> 00:28:24.759
So you're going to have the astroturfing of UBOs

00:28:24.759 --> 00:28:29.359
or small -time promoters that just feed into

00:28:29.359 --> 00:28:37.279
Zufa or whoever else. Yeah. But let's keep it

00:28:37.279 --> 00:28:41.440
rolling. This is the news the world has been

00:28:41.440 --> 00:28:46.599
waiting for. Tony Yoka, Lauren Ciccoli. April

00:28:46.599 --> 00:28:50.369
25th in Paris. Please contain your excitement.

00:28:52.250 --> 00:28:57.529
This might be the worst fight ever. Yeah? It's

00:28:57.529 --> 00:29:02.069
pretty goddamn bad. Yeah. Like... Like, this...

00:29:02.069 --> 00:29:06.670
Like, genuinely, like, Yoka is... Hot dog shit.

00:29:06.690 --> 00:29:10.670
He's not... He's terrible. And Okoli, like, is...

00:29:10.670 --> 00:29:17.210
Cold dog shit. Is an affront to the sport. Yeah,

00:29:17.210 --> 00:29:21.380
he is. Like, it's like, if you pay money to watch

00:29:21.380 --> 00:29:25.640
him, you are part of the problem with this sport.

00:29:26.059 --> 00:29:29.079
You're kind of a chud. You are a chud. You deserve

00:29:29.079 --> 00:29:32.259
what you get. It's going to be a bad fight. Like,

00:29:32.259 --> 00:29:35.240
that money is better spent on Zufa than Lawrence

00:29:35.240 --> 00:29:39.099
or Coley. Honestly, go get a meth head hooker

00:29:39.099 --> 00:29:42.920
at that point. A good Zufa fighter? Yeah, like,

00:29:42.960 --> 00:29:45.039
dude, I've seen better, I've seen more entertaining

00:29:45.039 --> 00:29:47.819
fights on Street Peeps. Like, please. You'll

00:29:47.819 --> 00:29:49.980
probably have more fun on heroin. You'll probably

00:29:49.980 --> 00:29:53.920
have more fun in a homeless restroom wiping your

00:29:53.920 --> 00:29:58.859
butt on a toilet seat. I mean, this fight's horrible.

00:29:59.339 --> 00:30:04.559
Lawrence Coley and Tony Oka. I need Lawrence

00:30:04.559 --> 00:30:07.220
Coley to step up and get knocked out. Please.

00:30:07.339 --> 00:30:11.579
I'm over it. You could Lawrence Coley and Tony

00:30:11.579 --> 00:30:16.099
Oka and show. He's probably the only fighter

00:30:16.099 --> 00:30:18.750
I've seen who, like, Has promotional issues.

00:30:18.950 --> 00:30:22.190
Not because he's difficult to work with. Or a

00:30:22.190 --> 00:30:25.450
bad person. Or particularly bad. But because

00:30:25.450 --> 00:30:32.130
he's like. He's so. Just. Awful. To watch. That

00:30:32.130 --> 00:30:37.529
like. There is nobody who wants to see him. Not

00:30:37.529 --> 00:30:41.009
even his whole family. Would go watch him fight.

00:30:41.750 --> 00:30:50.079
Yeah. It's horrible. I remember. This was several

00:30:50.079 --> 00:30:54.779
years ago at this point. I had worked an overnight

00:30:54.779 --> 00:30:59.460
shift at a data center. And I would get home.

00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:03.140
They had unlimited overtime. So I was getting

00:31:03.140 --> 00:31:05.940
home at like... I got off. My shift ended at

00:31:05.940 --> 00:31:09.400
like 7. I'm getting home at like 1. Just because

00:31:09.400 --> 00:31:13.460
of that sweet, sweet money. But I got home. And

00:31:13.460 --> 00:31:18.859
Tony Yoko was fighting Martin Bacoli. And I had

00:31:18.859 --> 00:31:22.279
been having trouble. I had not at that point

00:31:22.279 --> 00:31:25.339
gotten like a sleep mask or blackout curtains.

00:31:25.559 --> 00:31:28.920
So I was having trouble sleeping. I put on Tony

00:31:28.920 --> 00:31:31.779
Yoka, Martin Bacoli. Man, I was out like a light.

00:31:32.299 --> 00:31:39.299
It's beautiful. Thank you, Tony Yoka. Moving.

00:31:40.480 --> 00:31:43.480
Two wrongs might make a right. You guys may never

00:31:43.480 --> 00:31:46.460
know. It might be a banger fight. You might be

00:31:46.460 --> 00:31:49.700
onto something here. Tony Yoka not being gun

00:31:49.700 --> 00:31:51.880
-shy because he's not scared of, like, offense

00:31:51.880 --> 00:31:55.240
coming back at him. Who knows? This might be

00:31:55.240 --> 00:31:58.819
the recipe. It might be the greatest fight in

00:31:58.819 --> 00:32:04.279
French history. We don't say this often, but

00:32:04.279 --> 00:32:06.740
just put this shit on the background while you

00:32:06.740 --> 00:32:08.880
do something else. If you're going to watch this

00:32:08.880 --> 00:32:10.700
fight, just put it on the background. Netflix

00:32:10.700 --> 00:32:13.319
and chill, just Tony Yoka and Loris Chloe and

00:32:13.319 --> 00:32:17.859
chill. Like, come on. This is pathetic. Yeah.

00:32:19.420 --> 00:32:22.940
Is this pathetic? Mario Barrios has announced

00:32:22.940 --> 00:32:32.000
his move to 154. Whatever. Sure. Yeah. He's going

00:32:32.000 --> 00:32:34.579
to get his ass kicked a few times and then retire.

00:32:35.640 --> 00:32:37.059
You know what's going to happen? You know what,

00:32:37.160 --> 00:32:39.559
man? Put him with Virgil for his first fight

00:32:39.559 --> 00:32:42.609
with Matchroom. And that's not... They're going

00:32:42.609 --> 00:32:44.470
to do Sebastian Vandoro versus Mario Barrios.

00:32:44.609 --> 00:32:48.569
And they're going to fight until the draw. No

00:32:48.569 --> 00:32:52.150
way. Vandoro will beat the absolute piss out

00:32:52.150 --> 00:32:54.650
of Mario Barrios. It's not happening. Like, Barrios

00:32:54.650 --> 00:32:57.910
is... Oh, my God. Like, he should have gone straight

00:32:57.910 --> 00:33:01.710
to 160 if he wanted any type of success. Should

00:33:01.710 --> 00:33:07.049
have gone to Zufa. Former world champion Mario

00:33:07.049 --> 00:33:15.000
Barrios. But yeah, this is not... This ain't

00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:19.059
it, man. You weren't very good at 147. Now you're

00:33:19.059 --> 00:33:21.380
moving up to a division where the guys are a

00:33:21.380 --> 00:33:23.500
lot... Not a lot, but they're bigger than you.

00:33:23.940 --> 00:33:27.519
And a lot better. They're a lot stronger. And

00:33:27.519 --> 00:33:30.400
yeah, they're better. This shit ain't it, man.

00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:33.900
You got a kid. You need to reconsider your choices

00:33:33.900 --> 00:33:45.140
here. Or don't. Manny Pacquiao Jr., his fight

00:33:45.140 --> 00:33:49.380
on February 28th was canceled, and it has been

00:33:49.380 --> 00:33:52.700
moved to April 3rd. He will be on the Tataran

00:33:52.700 --> 00:33:59.480
Perez undercard. Manny Pacquiao Jr. is not very

00:33:59.480 --> 00:34:03.359
good. Just for the sake of his father, I'm giving

00:34:03.359 --> 00:34:08.500
him the little time that I have right now. Moving

00:34:08.500 --> 00:34:12.320
on. Iceland. Manny Pacquiao Jr. is as good of

00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:15.179
a boxer as Manny Pacquiao Sr. is as a politician.

00:34:17.619 --> 00:34:21.639
That's giving too much credit to Jr. I was going

00:34:21.639 --> 00:34:23.880
to say that's giving too much credit to Pacquiao

00:34:23.880 --> 00:34:28.079
the politician. Either way, that's a fucking

00:34:28.079 --> 00:34:30.199
dunk. He's about as good as Campbell Hatton.

00:34:31.519 --> 00:34:35.639
That's what I was going to say. You remember

00:34:35.639 --> 00:34:39.360
Campbell Hatton, co -main. On a pay -per -view

00:34:39.360 --> 00:34:46.659
fighter. Excellent. Iceland will be hosting its

00:34:46.659 --> 00:34:50.000
first ever professional boxing event on April

00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:56.559
10th. The headline, Icelandic Viking Kolbin Kristiansen

00:34:56.559 --> 00:35:01.159
will be facing Austrian Sasha Milenkovic. Heavyweights.

00:35:03.079 --> 00:35:07.480
I hope the crowd's good. Yeah. I really think

00:35:07.480 --> 00:35:12.039
Reykjavik is going to show out for their, like,

00:35:12.079 --> 00:35:14.400
it's their home guy, right? So I think they're

00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:17.860
going to come out. I hope they can tap into a

00:35:17.860 --> 00:35:20.019
new market. Hopefully Iceland might just love

00:35:20.019 --> 00:35:23.400
Bakken so much they just become mega fans. A

00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:25.619
new Germany without the questionable judging.

00:35:26.460 --> 00:35:29.199
Would love to see it. I thought you were going

00:35:29.199 --> 00:35:30.880
to say a new Germany without the questionable

00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:35.969
history. No, Iceland's got some fun history too.

00:35:36.210 --> 00:35:38.889
Yeah, goddamn Vikings. Questionable decisions.

00:35:43.949 --> 00:35:47.969
Sam Eggington will be returning on May 2nd against

00:35:47.969 --> 00:35:52.989
Kona Walker. God. You know, at least they made

00:35:52.989 --> 00:35:58.469
Ted Cheeseman Sam Eggington ever. Those two should

00:35:58.469 --> 00:36:01.389
fight each other. Just in perpetuity. As long

00:36:01.389 --> 00:36:02.989
as they want to continue fighting professionally,

00:36:03.289 --> 00:36:05.769
they have to fight each other. Yeah, Cheeseman

00:36:05.769 --> 00:36:11.989
and Eggington. That was there. That was when

00:36:11.989 --> 00:36:15.309
this gimmick peaked. Have the referee named like

00:36:15.309 --> 00:36:20.550
Ham or Bacon or something. Bacon, Egg, and Cheese.

00:36:21.809 --> 00:36:25.630
Bacon, Egg, and Cheese. The Bacon, Egg, and Cheese

00:36:25.630 --> 00:36:34.030
on May 2nd. All right. Ping, everyone. David

00:36:34.030 --> 00:36:38.570
Allen versus... He is teasing a quote -unquote

00:36:38.570 --> 00:36:42.849
world -class opponent. The frontrunner is Ji

00:36:42.849 --> 00:36:48.429
Lei Zhang. That's going to be a hilarious fight,

00:36:48.590 --> 00:36:52.409
man. Two guys who are terrible, fat, and out

00:36:52.409 --> 00:36:56.099
of shape. Actually, that's... Desang isn't terrible.

00:36:56.179 --> 00:37:00.679
He's just out of shape. Old. Old, out of shape,

00:37:00.780 --> 00:37:05.940
doesn't drink water on fight week. Dave Allen

00:37:05.940 --> 00:37:10.059
shows up. He's got the jokes to prove that he's

00:37:10.059 --> 00:37:21.420
hydrated. Oh, man. Oh, my God. Shows up looking

00:37:21.420 --> 00:37:26.280
like the Michelin Man dude. these years trainers

00:37:26.280 --> 00:37:28.539
like Dave Allen's in fantastic shape and I'm

00:37:28.539 --> 00:37:32.739
like he showed up at a career high weight that's

00:37:32.739 --> 00:37:37.000
um who promotes like I guess Queensbury like

00:37:37.000 --> 00:37:41.039
the Allen's matchroom matchroom so it's been

00:37:41.039 --> 00:37:43.340
Eddie that's been in the in the headlines saying

00:37:43.340 --> 00:37:47.519
like oh if uh David Allen he's he's been more

00:37:47.519 --> 00:37:50.300
dialed in than I've ever seen him and he's he's

00:37:50.300 --> 00:37:53.260
really Eager to prove that he still has it. Like,

00:37:53.260 --> 00:37:56.079
that type of shit. I don't know if I believe

00:37:56.079 --> 00:37:59.719
that. Guy who never had it. Has suddenly found

00:37:59.719 --> 00:38:04.699
it. Yeah, guy who never had it, though. Eddie

00:38:04.699 --> 00:38:08.719
Reynoso helps people find it. If you follow me.

00:38:12.659 --> 00:38:18.400
Last bit. We'll find drugs. Just on the nose.

00:38:18.679 --> 00:38:25.420
It's all perfect. Last bit. Haney and Rolly Romero

00:38:25.420 --> 00:38:30.380
are in, quote, late -stage serious talks for

00:38:30.380 --> 00:38:35.800
a unification fight. Man, Rolly Romero continues

00:38:35.800 --> 00:38:39.780
to overachieve. I need him to win this one with

00:38:39.780 --> 00:38:42.840
Haney, too. That would be the funniest thing

00:38:42.840 --> 00:38:46.019
in the world. I'm telling you this. There's a

00:38:46.019 --> 00:38:52.739
path for Rolly undisputed. There is. Roley undisputed

00:38:52.739 --> 00:38:57.739
before Virgil Ortiz belt is probably the best

00:38:57.739 --> 00:39:04.480
thing that will ever become reality. I'm confident

00:39:04.480 --> 00:39:07.880
Roley beats Lewis Crocker. I would agree with

00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:11.079
that. Roley beats Crocker. It's literally just

00:39:11.079 --> 00:39:13.820
Haney, and then he can probably beat Ryan again.

00:39:14.719 --> 00:39:19.719
Or he has a chance of beating Ryan. It's just,

00:39:19.840 --> 00:39:29.420
I'd laugh so hard. I would say, like a grieving,

00:39:29.659 --> 00:39:34.579
mourning flowers to Virgil. Like, your career's

00:39:34.579 --> 00:39:37.340
fucking over, bro. Brawley is undisputed before

00:39:37.340 --> 00:39:40.579
you got a title. Get the fuck out of here, dude.

00:39:40.719 --> 00:39:52.559
Call it quits. It's over. Yeah, what I can hope

00:39:52.559 --> 00:39:57.539
for from Haney is he displays what he did at

00:39:57.539 --> 00:40:00.679
the beginning of the Brian Norman fight, where

00:40:00.679 --> 00:40:06.000
he showed that he can be entertaining. And what

00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:08.739
he also demonstrated in the latter half of that

00:40:08.739 --> 00:40:12.480
fight is that he just chooses not to be engaging.

00:40:15.420 --> 00:40:16.880
For that reason, I hope Raleigh wins. And then

00:40:16.880 --> 00:40:21.119
Raleigh's going to knock him out. Oh, God. I

00:40:21.119 --> 00:40:23.079
would send him, like, money or something. And

00:40:23.079 --> 00:40:25.539
we're going to cry laughing. Yeah. We're going

00:40:25.539 --> 00:40:29.000
to cry laughing. At everyone, like, ten fucking

00:40:29.000 --> 00:40:34.619
times. Raleigh beat Haney. Raleigh beat Haney.

00:40:36.260 --> 00:40:40.159
Three -division champion? God, you're right.

00:40:40.280 --> 00:40:43.949
Three -division champion. No, he's not unified.

00:40:44.530 --> 00:40:50.469
Wait, was he a champ at 135? I think he was interim,

00:40:50.550 --> 00:40:55.969
right? Interim. So 140 and 147. Yeah, but for

00:40:55.969 --> 00:40:58.190
the propaganda, we can make it work. For the

00:40:58.190 --> 00:41:01.309
purposes of dunking on Haney, yes, three -division

00:41:01.309 --> 00:41:09.110
champ. And Virgil. Yes, as well. Anything more

00:41:09.110 --> 00:41:14.980
for the news? Let's go Rolly Romero Undisputed.

00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:18.880
Let's go Rolly. Rolly Undisputed. That's where

00:41:18.880 --> 00:41:23.699
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on the 27th of February. There is quite a bit

00:44:25.599 --> 00:44:29.659
that happened here. The top two. The main and

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co -main. Ruben Aguilar. gets the corner stoppage

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after the eighth, and Edward Vasquez corner stoppage

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after the fifth. This, as Shanada pointed out,

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and I thought it was a good one, is this was

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a little bit more less competitive matchups,

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to with Pro Box. Still, like, entertaining, but

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not a lot of back and forth. Yeah. Man, they

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also made it a point to make sure you knew this

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event was taking place in Arlington, Texas. Holy

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shit. Moving on. Saturday, February 28th. Manny

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Pacquiao promotions in Verona, New York. The

00:45:22.460 --> 00:45:28.599
only two. The top two. Lorenzo Parra stops Elijah

00:45:28.599 --> 00:45:32.000
Pierce in the second. That's just the main event.

00:45:32.159 --> 00:45:36.500
But I was here for Kermel Moten gets the corner

00:45:36.500 --> 00:45:40.119
stoppage after the second. The shit was not even

00:45:40.119 --> 00:45:48.960
competitive. Moten does what Moten do. That's

00:45:48.960 --> 00:45:56.920
about all I got. Yeah. Did he? Wait. Did he weigh

00:45:56.920 --> 00:46:01.820
at 140 or 147 for this? He's at 147 now. Jesus

00:46:01.820 --> 00:46:08.500
Christ. Growing boy. Yeah, he's still like 19,

00:46:08.679 --> 00:46:13.280
18. Fucking ridiculous. Yeah, he weighed in 142

00:46:13.280 --> 00:46:24.539
for this fight. Matchroom on DAZN. Your boy was

00:46:24.539 --> 00:46:34.340
in attendance. From the bottom up... The Jumbotron

00:46:34.340 --> 00:46:38.719
was not showing... They didn't have the bugs

00:46:38.719 --> 00:46:42.500
that showed the names and the trunk colors. They

00:46:42.500 --> 00:46:46.460
just had the camera feed and the timer. So I

00:46:46.460 --> 00:46:48.719
don't really remember who all these people are.

00:46:50.300 --> 00:46:53.820
$25 Michelob Ultras were really hitting the spot.

00:46:56.860 --> 00:47:00.260
Raman Muhammad stops Mitchell McFadden in two.

00:47:01.159 --> 00:47:05.340
Hector Beltran, UD over Cesar Diaz. This young

00:47:05.340 --> 00:47:08.840
man was impressive. Philip Vela, UD over Brian

00:47:08.840 --> 00:47:13.239
Ramos. I know it was Philip Vela because I got

00:47:13.239 --> 00:47:17.460
a ticket in the Philip Vela fan section. Nice.

00:47:17.659 --> 00:47:20.579
So I got to sit next to his grandma and grandpa,

00:47:20.739 --> 00:47:23.519
and they were very proud of their young man.

00:47:25.000 --> 00:47:29.760
As he should have been. But after that, like

00:47:29.760 --> 00:47:34.940
all the Vela people just went up and got shithoused

00:47:34.940 --> 00:47:38.719
and then they came back for the main event. So

00:47:38.719 --> 00:47:43.900
that was fun. Let's see. Oscar Alvarez, UD over

00:47:43.900 --> 00:47:49.559
Treaty Ochoa. Arturo Popoca split draw with Jordan

00:47:49.559 --> 00:47:54.090
Martinez. Martinez was a local kid. So the crowd

00:47:54.090 --> 00:47:56.849
did not appreciate that he got a draw. However,

00:47:57.050 --> 00:48:00.510
I think the draw kind of saved him from losing.

00:48:02.289 --> 00:48:10.389
So count your blessings, people. Um, Abel Ramos

00:48:10.389 --> 00:48:15.329
split decision over to mere smalls. This was

00:48:15.329 --> 00:48:19.909
like this for unks all across the country. Abel

00:48:19.909 --> 00:48:23.989
Ramos, you did it for us. Uh, God damn, that

00:48:23.989 --> 00:48:28.309
was great. Tamir Smalls started off nicely. Abel

00:48:28.309 --> 00:48:31.570
Ramos. Not going to say there was a tipsy guy

00:48:31.570 --> 00:48:35.489
in the crowd shouting to pressure him. And that

00:48:35.489 --> 00:48:38.670
pressure. Go on, my son. Go on, my son. Pressure.

00:48:38.690 --> 00:48:41.010
Go on, my son. Pressure behind the jab. Work

00:48:41.010 --> 00:48:43.829
in. Get underneath. Work the body. Not going

00:48:43.829 --> 00:48:47.789
to say that's what did it. But we all saw what

00:48:47.789 --> 00:48:55.789
happened. Go on, my son. Emiliano Vargas. Corner

00:48:55.789 --> 00:48:58.750
stoppage after the ninth over Agustin Quintana.

00:49:00.010 --> 00:49:04.949
Apparently, the corner had been telling him for

00:49:04.949 --> 00:49:08.510
a few rounds at that point, like, hey, you're

00:49:08.510 --> 00:49:11.369
taking too much punishment. We're not going to

00:49:11.369 --> 00:49:14.170
let this continue. So they finally pulled the

00:49:14.170 --> 00:49:18.550
plug. Agustin was not happy, as one might expect.

00:49:18.929 --> 00:49:24.780
But Emiliano Vargas was whooping that ass. Miliano,

00:49:24.960 --> 00:49:26.960
that was, I'm not gonna lie, that was a tough

00:49:26.960 --> 00:49:29.679
fight for Miliano. Yeah, he had to find new gears.

00:49:30.800 --> 00:49:33.519
Yeah, and he showed some strength, but he also

00:49:33.519 --> 00:49:36.659
showed what he also needs to work on. Yeah. A

00:49:36.659 --> 00:49:39.159
little more so than even his last fight. This

00:49:39.159 --> 00:49:41.639
fight was, I mean, I gotta admit, the guy that

00:49:41.639 --> 00:49:47.320
he was fighting was tough. Tough SOB. Yeah, but

00:49:47.320 --> 00:49:49.739
you didn't, looking at the guy, you probably

00:49:49.739 --> 00:49:52.000
wouldn't know. You wouldn't expect him to be

00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:57.599
tough. Unexpectedly tough, I would say. And Emiliano

00:49:57.599 --> 00:50:00.599
put up a good fight, and we'll see where he goes

00:50:00.599 --> 00:50:03.159
from here. But I'm glad he got through it, got

00:50:03.159 --> 00:50:08.760
the knockout. It looked great. Do you think this

00:50:08.760 --> 00:50:12.980
was a case of Team Vargas picking an opponent

00:50:12.980 --> 00:50:18.139
that they maybe underestimated? Because, look,

00:50:18.179 --> 00:50:22.289
this guy Quintana is from Argentina. and maybe

00:50:22.289 --> 00:50:25.010
i don't know y 'all must have forgot but argentina

00:50:25.010 --> 00:50:29.769
has like a really deep roots in boxing oh yeah

00:50:29.769 --> 00:50:35.349
like they their records are very misleading yes

00:50:35.349 --> 00:50:41.429
i wonder if that's if that's what happened is

00:50:41.429 --> 00:50:45.969
like they tried to pick a showcase and instead

00:50:45.969 --> 00:50:50.360
they put on a competitive compelling fight Rather

00:50:50.360 --> 00:50:58.360
than a highlight reel, but c 'est la vie. In

00:50:58.360 --> 00:51:05.420
the main event, Emmanuel Navarrete stops Eduardo

00:51:05.420 --> 00:51:11.219
Nunez in the 11th to unify the WBO and IBF super

00:51:11.219 --> 00:51:14.719
featherweight titles. Saul, you were a Nunez

00:51:14.719 --> 00:51:20.349
guy. You and I. What did you see Nunez? What

00:51:20.349 --> 00:51:25.769
went wrong for Nunez? I feel like Nunez early

00:51:25.769 --> 00:51:28.170
on didn't put the pressure on enough. He kept

00:51:28.170 --> 00:51:32.489
going on the back foot. And I guess Navarrete,

00:51:32.489 --> 00:51:35.889
that's not really a good idea with the size,

00:51:36.030 --> 00:51:39.250
the length that he has, and the awkwardness he

00:51:39.250 --> 00:51:43.789
has in his arsenal. Going on the back foot is

00:51:43.789 --> 00:51:46.409
probably one of the dumbest things to do if you're

00:51:46.409 --> 00:51:52.130
not. a slick fighter and nunez unfortunately

00:51:52.130 --> 00:51:55.369
one i to me it seemed like he wanted to feel

00:51:55.369 --> 00:51:59.969
out navarrete and try to see how he fight try

00:51:59.969 --> 00:52:04.650
to like figure him out and he got pummeled bad

00:52:04.650 --> 00:52:10.769
and i want to be on about you guys but i don't

00:52:10.769 --> 00:52:12.389
care what anybody says nunez showed tremendous

00:52:12.389 --> 00:52:15.900
heart in that fight he went, he got up as I was

00:52:15.900 --> 00:52:18.420
busted up and he still wanted to continue that

00:52:18.420 --> 00:52:20.420
last round. They had to stop the fight for him.

00:52:21.039 --> 00:52:23.239
You know? Yeah, you're right. He was absolutely

00:52:23.239 --> 00:52:28.099
courageous. And by the end, I was just kind of

00:52:28.099 --> 00:52:30.440
saying, stop the fight, dude. It's, it's, it's

00:52:30.440 --> 00:52:33.579
over. You know, he just go, go on and fight another

00:52:33.579 --> 00:52:37.139
day. You go, you take the loss and you already

00:52:37.139 --> 00:52:39.960
have a loss on your record. You know, you're

00:52:39.960 --> 00:52:42.699
not gonna be undefeated no matter what. Take

00:52:42.699 --> 00:52:44.699
the loss and just come back another day. You

00:52:44.699 --> 00:52:48.360
can in the future get a title again. You're not

00:52:48.360 --> 00:52:51.880
horrible. It was funny. My girlfriend was crying

00:52:51.880 --> 00:52:53.699
because I was kind of hyping up Nunez to her.

00:52:55.780 --> 00:52:58.519
She was somehow busted up and the music they

00:52:58.519 --> 00:53:02.360
were playing too was emotional. Very beautiful

00:53:02.360 --> 00:53:06.159
Mexican ballad. I was like, man, that's fucked,

00:53:06.260 --> 00:53:09.800
dude. I was like, this shit happens on the regular

00:53:09.800 --> 00:53:13.800
in boxing. Yeah, you should see what happens

00:53:13.800 --> 00:53:17.760
to Virgil. Shed some tears for him. I'm good.

00:53:19.460 --> 00:53:23.559
But, you know. Tears of laughter. Shut up. Shut

00:53:23.559 --> 00:53:28.519
up. But, no, no. It was, it was, he showed tremendous

00:53:28.519 --> 00:53:31.320
heart. And I got to give it to Nevin. I did not

00:53:31.320 --> 00:53:36.119
expect him to have, still have that in him. He

00:53:36.119 --> 00:53:39.119
looked great. Fighting on the outside and on

00:53:39.119 --> 00:53:41.980
the inside. I'm just, I was kind of left in shock.

00:53:44.239 --> 00:53:47.320
I was like, shock. I don't know he had that anime

00:53:47.320 --> 00:53:50.800
anymore. I know if you go into Discord and you

00:53:50.800 --> 00:53:55.679
check the gifs and you type in bowing or we're

00:53:55.679 --> 00:53:59.719
not worthy, for me, the Wayne's World gif comes

00:53:59.719 --> 00:54:04.139
up of them like, we're not worthy of their idols.

00:54:04.460 --> 00:54:08.519
Yeah, I see it. To me, that's what Nav did. I

00:54:08.519 --> 00:54:13.829
was writing with Nunez. I wanted... some comeuppance

00:54:13.829 --> 00:54:19.429
for nav never taking things seriously um like

00:54:19.429 --> 00:54:21.929
i i just wanted it i wanted that road to run

00:54:21.929 --> 00:54:26.869
out that's it um and i had hoped nunez would

00:54:26.869 --> 00:54:30.349
be able to do it but man like as you put it uh

00:54:30.349 --> 00:54:36.889
i think he was starstruck um the the lights of

00:54:36.889 --> 00:54:43.239
being in a like 15 000 packed arena Main event.

00:54:43.960 --> 00:54:47.460
Unification. Vaquero Navarrete is in front of

00:54:47.460 --> 00:54:50.420
you. Like, bro, I've never been in a situation

00:54:50.420 --> 00:54:53.420
like this. Like, not even close. And I think

00:54:53.420 --> 00:54:57.599
that it got to his head a little bit. But, yeah.

00:54:58.559 --> 00:55:01.840
Josh, what do you got? Nav. Damn, Nav looked

00:55:01.840 --> 00:55:07.519
good. Nav looked good. He looked in shape, which

00:55:07.519 --> 00:55:11.219
is... Nutritionist Nav. Yeah, I was about to

00:55:11.219 --> 00:55:13.980
say, like, damn, that's the difference that actually,

00:55:14.019 --> 00:55:18.579
like, eating well and not slamming, like, Mexican

00:55:18.579 --> 00:55:21.440
Cokes two weeks before your fucking fight looks

00:55:21.440 --> 00:55:25.579
like? Jesus Christ. Liam Wilson would like a

00:55:25.579 --> 00:55:31.539
run back. Yeah, like, Jesus Christ, man. Where

00:55:31.539 --> 00:55:39.650
was this earlier? Yeah. Man, this is, uh... This

00:55:39.650 --> 00:55:42.929
is a scary prospect, I think, if he continues

00:55:42.929 --> 00:55:48.329
to do the strength and conditioning, the nutritional

00:55:48.329 --> 00:55:53.190
stuff. This is a fucking totally different beast.

00:55:53.809 --> 00:56:01.869
Working out and... Actually exercising. Doing

00:56:01.869 --> 00:56:04.730
your job as a professional athlete and you look

00:56:04.730 --> 00:56:08.070
this much better? Jesus Christ. Would have figured.

00:56:08.809 --> 00:56:14.869
Oh, my God. Yeah, like over on Boxing Before

00:56:14.869 --> 00:56:18.809
Dark, we had joked. I think I told you guys that

00:56:18.809 --> 00:56:21.750
Punch the Little Monkey would pick Nav. Yeah,

00:56:21.750 --> 00:56:25.929
we talked about it. We did. But those fucking

00:56:25.929 --> 00:56:32.269
gorilla arms with this version, Navarrete owes

00:56:32.269 --> 00:56:35.050
Charlie Suarez the rematch. That was like the

00:56:35.050 --> 00:56:37.750
promise that you step aside for this unification.

00:56:38.559 --> 00:56:40.320
You'll get a shot at the two belts if I win.

00:56:41.840 --> 00:56:48.260
And that's what's next. Suarez stood a chance

00:56:48.260 --> 00:56:54.940
because he's mad decent. And also that Nav wasn't

00:56:54.940 --> 00:56:58.679
doing the stuff that he did for this. Do you

00:56:58.679 --> 00:57:01.980
think that is Charlie Suarez enough of an opponent

00:57:01.980 --> 00:57:06.539
to get Nav up and going, like to have that same

00:57:06.539 --> 00:57:11.840
motivation? I don't know. Like, that's just...

00:57:11.840 --> 00:57:14.920
Damn, it's nice when he's not eating, like, bomack

00:57:14.920 --> 00:57:19.159
before a fight. Oh, my God. But besides Charlie

00:57:19.159 --> 00:57:25.380
Suarez, he called for Oshaki Foster. And that

00:57:25.380 --> 00:57:29.820
takes, like, a special level of confidence. Oshaki

00:57:29.820 --> 00:57:36.199
Foster is your textbook outfighter. He's slick,

00:57:36.400 --> 00:57:41.960
mobile. long jab nav also has long ass arms so

00:57:41.960 --> 00:57:45.500
he might be able to work past that nonetheless

00:57:45.500 --> 00:57:50.420
like it's like that come forward rumbler like

00:57:50.420 --> 00:57:54.059
nav oh shaki foster's like the fucking kryptonite

00:57:54.059 --> 00:57:59.619
for that man and that's that's like the one of

00:57:59.619 --> 00:58:02.539
the first names out of his mouth i think i got

00:58:02.539 --> 00:58:06.940
shaki for that fight if i do too I, so do I,

00:58:07.000 --> 00:58:10.739
I'm going to be hoping nav can pull it off, but

00:58:10.739 --> 00:58:15.000
I, yeah, I think Foster's going to win as much

00:58:15.000 --> 00:58:19.139
as I'd like nav to win, but Hey, you guys, uh,

00:58:19.199 --> 00:58:23.099
Hey Eddie, um, bring that one back to Phoenix.

00:58:23.440 --> 00:58:30.280
We can, uh, we can, uh, make it work. I guarantee

00:58:30.280 --> 00:58:39.550
you one ticket sale. Okay, so we got Nav. He's

00:58:39.550 --> 00:58:44.789
got a rematch Suarez. He called for Oshaki Foster.

00:58:46.289 --> 00:58:50.690
And the other title holder is Jazza Dickens.

00:58:51.449 --> 00:58:56.309
Well, Jazza for about... Is it this week? Yeah.

00:58:57.110 --> 00:58:59.590
We'll be talking about it in a minute. Jazza

00:58:59.590 --> 00:59:04.480
for about the rest of this week. Unless he beats

00:59:04.480 --> 00:59:07.840
Kakachi. He's not beating Kakachi, but that's...

00:59:07.840 --> 00:59:12.679
The Britslayer? Yeah, like, Britslayer Supreme,

00:59:13.059 --> 00:59:19.840
come on. Guac is included. Britslayer Supreme.

00:59:23.179 --> 00:59:28.460
Nunez. I think... Saul, you put it well. Nunez...

00:59:29.659 --> 00:59:32.900
As long as Nav is in the picture, maybe not.

00:59:33.039 --> 00:59:37.739
But Nunez will get a title again. He could go

00:59:37.739 --> 00:59:40.559
for one of the other ones. But we know IBF likes

00:59:40.559 --> 00:59:43.239
to recycle their guys. So if he stays in the

00:59:43.239 --> 00:59:46.480
IBF ecosystem, he's going to get another shot.

00:59:47.199 --> 00:59:52.239
Oh, yeah. So regardless, I would like to see

00:59:52.239 --> 00:59:56.639
how Nunez rebuilds from here. Because you got

00:59:56.639 --> 01:00:01.400
the jitters out. You heard the big crowd. You

01:00:01.400 --> 01:00:07.739
got the big lights. Let's get serious now. Let's

01:00:07.739 --> 01:00:09.719
bring it back. Yeah, let's bring it back around.

01:00:12.559 --> 01:00:20.239
Anything more for Nav Nunez? All right. Let's

01:00:20.239 --> 01:00:23.760
see here. Some notes before we continue. Social

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them. Friday, March 13th in our previews. Probox

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TV. They have a card every weekend until mid

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-April. Fucking yes. We are eating. We are feasting.

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So yeah, this one's in Kissimmee, Florida. There

01:04:29.300 --> 01:04:34.599
are some Probox alum on here. Nachi Lopez versus

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Manuel Gallegos in the main event. Dominic Valle.

01:04:38.460 --> 01:04:44.539
in the co -main, and his fucking compatriot Kenyon

01:04:44.539 --> 01:04:53.380
is further down the bill. But pro box good. Well,

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man, we've been getting the spectrum. We've been

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getting the usual highly competitive 50 -50 matchups.

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We've gotten the decision -heavy cards. We've

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gotten knockout -heavy cards. Fucking one -sided

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cards. Like, man, Pro Box is really flexing.

01:05:18.949 --> 01:05:23.269
Saturday, March 14th. Queensberry at the Three

01:05:23.269 --> 01:05:28.869
Arena in Dublin. This is your Who's Who of Britslop.

01:05:29.309 --> 01:05:34.130
There are some fun -ish names on here. Let's

01:05:34.130 --> 01:05:38.360
see. Gary Coley is facing... Benito Sanchez,

01:05:38.579 --> 01:05:45.639
17 -17 -4 is his record. I would appreciate if

01:05:45.639 --> 01:05:49.920
you two could go to his box record real quick.

01:05:50.360 --> 01:05:55.920
Because I have a theory about who Benito Sanchez

01:05:55.920 --> 01:06:03.519
is. He's a very ginger... Mexican. He's freckly

01:06:03.519 --> 01:06:05.099
and red hair and everything. Yeah, I'm looking

01:06:05.099 --> 01:06:08.159
at his box rec right now. He's a symmetrical

01:06:08.159 --> 01:06:11.500
record. Yeah, he does. He does have one. Yes.

01:06:12.039 --> 01:06:16.420
Canelito has a symmetrical record. So what I

01:06:16.420 --> 01:06:18.519
think, if you look at his most recent, like,

01:06:18.519 --> 01:06:22.440
ten fucking fights, they're all in the UK. They're

01:06:22.440 --> 01:06:25.719
all scoring referee points decisions that he

01:06:25.719 --> 01:06:30.570
loses. Here... is my theory on Benito Sanchez.

01:06:31.730 --> 01:06:36.630
He is a Mexican fighter that they bring to the

01:06:36.630 --> 01:06:41.030
UK to lose. They bring him there to be beaten

01:06:41.030 --> 01:06:45.329
by British fighters so that they can get over

01:06:45.329 --> 01:06:49.909
the mental hump of facing a Mexican. That's true.

01:06:50.389 --> 01:06:52.829
I genuinely think that that's what he's for.

01:06:52.989 --> 01:06:56.989
That's what he's doing. That's his purpose. Little

01:06:56.989 --> 01:07:03.710
Canelo. Gary Coley got fucking sparked. There's

01:07:03.710 --> 01:07:06.969
a guy named Rocky Israel refereeing one of these

01:07:06.969 --> 01:07:12.769
points losses. Truth is stranger than fiction.

01:07:13.710 --> 01:07:19.110
Now, Gary Coley got smoked by Jose Felix. Yeah,

01:07:19.190 --> 01:07:23.329
who is not great. No, he's not. And he is like

01:07:23.329 --> 01:07:26.809
eight inches shorter than Gary Coley in everything.

01:07:27.500 --> 01:07:31.659
Cully had all the advantages. I think Benito

01:07:31.659 --> 01:07:40.340
is the practice fighter. See, you can beat a

01:07:40.340 --> 01:07:43.579
Mexican. See, you just did it. So you can beat

01:07:43.579 --> 01:07:46.380
a Mexican, yeah. You can beat Mexicans. They're

01:07:46.380 --> 01:07:48.780
not all that scary. Look at him. You just beat

01:07:48.780 --> 01:07:52.500
him. Curiously, Jono Carroll's still fighting?

01:07:52.639 --> 01:07:56.360
Yeah, the angry leprechaun is still doing it.

01:07:57.710 --> 01:08:00.030
I remember he had, like, a knockout of the year

01:08:00.030 --> 01:08:03.929
contender. And it was, like, in January of, like,

01:08:03.949 --> 01:08:09.210
2016 or something. Just a random thought. Yeah,

01:08:09.210 --> 01:08:14.769
probably. Mark Chamberlain still doing it. Jesus,

01:08:14.849 --> 01:08:17.109
they pulled out every washed up Brit for this.

01:08:19.369 --> 01:08:22.630
Kakashi's lining all of them up in a row. Yeah,

01:08:22.670 --> 01:08:25.340
like, I was about to say, like, damn. Kakachi

01:08:25.340 --> 01:08:31.439
really owns this fucking country. But, yep, main

01:08:31.439 --> 01:08:35.239
event. Jazza Dickens, the WBA super featherweight

01:08:35.239 --> 01:08:44.539
champ versus 7th ranked Anthony Kakachi. I don't

01:08:44.539 --> 01:08:47.680
really have a lot to say. Honestly, Benito was

01:08:47.680 --> 01:08:54.889
more fun than, like, the rest of the shit. When

01:08:54.889 --> 01:08:59.229
I was doing Boxing Before Dark, we both kind

01:08:59.229 --> 01:09:03.890
of stopped. Benito Sanchez, 17, 17, and 4. What

01:09:03.890 --> 01:09:06.829
the fuck is this? Yeah, five knockouts on each

01:09:06.829 --> 01:09:12.909
wins and losses. Man, he's just the best. He

01:09:12.909 --> 01:09:18.470
might be my new fucking pet favorite. Just the

01:09:18.470 --> 01:09:20.949
most random person you could fucking fall for.

01:09:21.909 --> 01:09:27.810
Oh, yeah. Moving on. Saturday, March 14th continues

01:09:27.810 --> 01:09:31.470
with Golden Boy at the Honda Center in Anaheim,

01:09:31.470 --> 01:09:35.229
California. Starting us off, Pedo Diaz versus

01:09:35.229 --> 01:09:40.210
Alexis Rocha. Fucking Diaz has been undersized

01:09:40.210 --> 01:09:44.670
since he moved up from 130. And now he's fighting

01:09:44.670 --> 01:09:48.390
at fucking welterweight. Alexis Rocha is not

01:09:48.390 --> 01:09:50.470
the best welterweight that you could encounter,

01:09:50.710 --> 01:09:54.390
but he's also not the worst. This is a fucking

01:09:54.390 --> 01:10:00.109
mistake on DS. Shanada put it... Are we trying...

01:10:00.109 --> 01:10:05.829
Is somebody trying to get a diddler killed? Because

01:10:05.829 --> 01:10:11.590
that's kind of what it looks like. Well, yes.

01:10:14.770 --> 01:10:18.210
The world's smallest violin playing for the diddler.

01:10:18.750 --> 01:10:21.770
Sorry. Don't care. Ari won't play violin. He

01:10:21.770 --> 01:10:24.460
can just go straight to fucking hell. Moving

01:10:24.460 --> 01:10:28.180
on to someone who does deserve all the violence,

01:10:28.399 --> 01:10:32.119
Gabriela Fandora, the undisputed flyweight champ

01:10:32.119 --> 01:10:38.239
versus Viviana Ruiz. I consider myself quite

01:10:38.239 --> 01:10:42.840
the degenerate to include the mighty minis and

01:10:42.840 --> 01:10:45.539
the women's side. I don't know who this woman

01:10:45.539 --> 01:10:49.260
is. I'm expecting Fandora is going to whoop that

01:10:49.260 --> 01:10:52.439
ass. That's about it. Yeah, she built ass knockout.

01:10:52.840 --> 01:11:00.560
Classic Gabi. So, I had this conversation with

01:11:00.560 --> 01:11:06.079
Shanada and it was about women's pound for pound.

01:11:07.680 --> 01:11:15.600
Since Shields competed recently, the conversation

01:11:15.600 --> 01:11:22.329
seems to be around her Having to be number one

01:11:22.329 --> 01:11:29.510
versus other women fighters like Fundora, Katie

01:11:29.510 --> 01:11:36.170
Taylor, who beat better opposition. But for some

01:11:36.170 --> 01:11:38.130
reason, Clarissa Shields has to be first for

01:11:38.130 --> 01:11:43.170
fighting. It's not at all her fault. Fighting

01:11:43.170 --> 01:11:48.109
dogshit fighters. It's not her fault. She's...

01:11:48.319 --> 01:11:53.159
Crushing the cans as she should. Yeah. Not like

01:11:53.159 --> 01:11:56.600
someone we'll talk about next week who does not

01:11:56.600 --> 01:12:02.079
do that distinctly. One thing about Shield is

01:12:02.079 --> 01:12:05.140
that she's very great with her skills. She's

01:12:05.140 --> 01:12:10.619
just, she's easily the best women's fighter.

01:12:11.640 --> 01:12:16.039
Does Taylor not, like, in her prime, I guess.

01:12:16.220 --> 01:12:18.439
Best and greatest are different. Okay. All right.

01:12:18.520 --> 01:12:20.739
I'll say Taylor's, like, among the greatest,

01:12:20.960 --> 01:12:23.840
like, closer to greatest than Clarissa is. Mm

01:12:23.840 --> 01:12:25.880
-hmm. Just because she had the strength of opposition

01:12:25.880 --> 01:12:31.979
to actually go out and fight. And, uh... What

01:12:31.979 --> 01:12:38.060
is it? Shields just... She's the best, but cannot

01:12:38.060 --> 01:12:39.960
be the greatest because there's no strength of,

01:12:40.020 --> 01:12:43.239
uh... Like, who did you beat? Danielle fucking

01:12:43.239 --> 01:12:45.659
Perkins? Come on. Yeah, like, there's just...

01:12:45.659 --> 01:12:50.960
It's just not... It's not there. I want to continue

01:12:50.960 --> 01:12:54.359
reiterating it's not Clarissa's fault. It's not.

01:12:54.399 --> 01:12:56.779
No, I don't know. Like, she's easily the best.

01:12:56.899 --> 01:13:00.340
Like, her skills are so head and shoulders above

01:13:00.340 --> 01:13:03.840
anyone. It's just she has no one to actually

01:13:03.840 --> 01:13:08.979
show out against. She gets... She absolutely

01:13:08.979 --> 01:13:12.560
deserves the moniker, the quote that she picked

01:13:12.560 --> 01:13:14.979
for herself. Just the same way Floyd Mayweather

01:13:14.979 --> 01:13:18.140
picked TBE for himself. Muhammad Ali picked goat

01:13:18.140 --> 01:13:21.020
for himself. Yeah. You guys, like you all are

01:13:21.020 --> 01:13:24.180
that fucking good. You, yes, absolutely. That's

01:13:24.180 --> 01:13:30.699
your nickname. Um, my one thing that I don't

01:13:30.699 --> 01:13:34.560
know if this is a hot take or not. I don't, when

01:13:34.560 --> 01:13:37.159
it comes to pound for pound considerations, I

01:13:37.159 --> 01:13:42.100
do not include heavyweights period because the

01:13:42.100 --> 01:13:45.939
point of pound for pound is to compare to the

01:13:45.939 --> 01:13:49.899
heavyweights that's that was like the whole purpose

01:13:49.899 --> 01:13:54.520
of what pound was made for so like why so like

01:13:54.520 --> 01:13:58.760
i'm i'm curious how does usik being number one

01:13:58.760 --> 01:14:02.220
like no shit he's the biggest baddest boxer ever

01:14:02.220 --> 01:14:05.279
like right now he's the he's the baddest man

01:14:05.279 --> 01:14:09.420
on the planet i'm curious how like if we scaled

01:14:09.420 --> 01:14:14.380
how does bam compete or how does virgil compete

01:14:14.890 --> 01:14:18.270
Usyk's a unique case because he's... Cruiser,

01:14:18.390 --> 01:14:21.250
yes. He went up. No, but he's also just that

01:14:21.250 --> 01:14:29.649
good. But that's my hot take on pound for pound.

01:14:30.510 --> 01:14:34.350
Similarly, it applies to the women's side as

01:14:34.350 --> 01:14:36.930
well. Clarissa Shields, to me, doesn't go on

01:14:36.930 --> 01:14:38.989
a pound for pound list because she is the one

01:14:38.989 --> 01:14:42.470
that you're comparing everyone else to. So...

01:14:42.779 --> 01:14:47.039
I don't know. Still, like, I think Shanada said,

01:14:47.260 --> 01:14:51.739
like, Gabi has an argument to be over Shields.

01:14:51.739 --> 01:14:55.819
What do you think? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Especially

01:14:55.819 --> 01:15:00.000
because Gabi's more dominant over similar opposition.

01:15:00.479 --> 01:15:03.779
Right. Like, even if you're going to say, oh,

01:15:03.899 --> 01:15:06.539
Gabi's also fighting bums, too. She's... Her

01:15:06.539 --> 01:15:09.140
bums are better than Clarissa's bums. Her bums

01:15:09.140 --> 01:15:11.180
are better, and she's ripping their hearts out.

01:15:11.260 --> 01:15:13.859
Like, it's not... What did Shields do in her

01:15:13.859 --> 01:15:18.680
last one? 10 -0? It's UD, UD, UD, but you don't

01:15:18.680 --> 01:15:20.859
get paid extra for overtime, and dominating them,

01:15:20.979 --> 01:15:23.899
especially in shorter women's fights to that

01:15:23.899 --> 01:15:28.039
extent, is more impressive to me personally.

01:15:28.380 --> 01:15:33.539
I agree. I agree completely. Let's move on. Speaking

01:15:33.539 --> 01:15:37.260
of pound for pound, fucking Oscar Collazo will

01:15:37.260 --> 01:15:41.520
be putting his WBA, WBO. Minimum weight titles

01:15:41.520 --> 01:15:47.039
on the line against Jesus Haro. This, I know

01:15:47.039 --> 01:15:49.739
you guys probably don't care, but this was supposed

01:15:49.739 --> 01:15:52.720
to be Melvin Jerusalem. And it was supposed to

01:15:52.720 --> 01:15:56.760
be a three belt unification. And the Golden Boy

01:15:56.760 --> 01:16:03.180
rug pulled on Jerusalem like two weeks before

01:16:03.180 --> 01:16:10.390
the fight. So. I care. He could have been. Three

01:16:10.390 --> 01:16:14.229
belts. Right. That's, that's what, uh, like,

01:16:14.289 --> 01:16:16.850
like fucking loves these minimum weights and

01:16:16.850 --> 01:16:20.130
stuff. And like, we were both lamenting like

01:16:20.130 --> 01:16:24.489
three belt unification is something you can market.

01:16:25.390 --> 01:16:27.890
Oscar Collazo whooping on some dude you never

01:16:27.890 --> 01:16:30.710
heard of. You barely even heard of his, the three

01:16:30.710 --> 01:16:34.630
belt guy, but now this absolute fucking nobody

01:16:34.630 --> 01:16:42.819
who cares last. Main event, Arnold Barbosa moves

01:16:42.819 --> 01:16:49.060
up to welterweight against Kenneth Sims Jr. Is

01:16:49.060 --> 01:16:52.859
Kenny Sims, like, is this somebody that we should

01:16:52.859 --> 01:16:56.659
be concerned about? No. I'm not too familiar

01:16:56.659 --> 01:17:00.539
with this game. Not particularly. If it was a

01:17:00.539 --> 01:17:02.159
good fighter, I wouldn't be concerned about it,

01:17:02.220 --> 01:17:06.140
but Arnold Barbosa is not a fighter. He's not

01:17:06.140 --> 01:17:08.239
great. He's not great. He's decent. He's decent

01:17:08.239 --> 01:17:10.989
contender level. And I'm not trying to knock

01:17:10.989 --> 01:17:12.569
him because he's a regional fighter and, you

01:17:12.569 --> 01:17:15.470
know, all respect to him. He's in a similar area

01:17:15.470 --> 01:17:17.890
where I live. He's from the hood. You know? Yeah.

01:17:18.010 --> 01:17:21.109
Well, you know, it's like I got to support the

01:17:21.109 --> 01:17:25.329
guy, but I'm not going to lie and say, hey, this

01:17:25.329 --> 01:17:29.689
guy is fucking goaded. I rode with Jose Benavidez

01:17:29.689 --> 01:17:33.869
Jr. Like, he wasn't great. I rode with him anyway.

01:17:35.250 --> 01:17:38.609
Barbosa's going to make it look harder than it

01:17:38.609 --> 01:17:43.199
should be. but it won't be that. He's going to

01:17:43.199 --> 01:17:45.500
make Kenneth Sims Jr. actually look good. Oof.

01:17:46.359 --> 01:17:49.539
You think Sims is going to take it? Not Sims

01:17:49.539 --> 01:17:50.920
is going to take it, but I feel like he's going

01:17:50.920 --> 01:17:53.760
to make it look like Sims is actually... It's

01:17:53.760 --> 01:17:56.560
going to be competitive. Yeah. When it shouldn't

01:17:56.560 --> 01:18:05.439
be. Exactly. All right. Maybe Kenneth Sims and

01:18:05.439 --> 01:18:09.239
Alexis Rocha could trade spots. And we can get

01:18:09.239 --> 01:18:15.600
a little bit more of a clobber session. Alexis

01:18:15.600 --> 01:18:17.260
Rocha's not even that bad compared to... I'm

01:18:17.260 --> 01:18:20.020
not trying to call Arnold Boboza bad, but he's

01:18:20.020 --> 01:18:23.380
very one -dimensional. He doesn't have power.

01:18:23.779 --> 01:18:26.960
He's not fast. He doesn't have good ability to

01:18:26.960 --> 01:18:30.340
cut off the ring. No lateral movement at all.

01:18:31.479 --> 01:18:34.300
I mean, he's just a one -dimensional fighter.

01:18:34.380 --> 01:18:37.159
That's it. That's all I gotta say. I mean, he

01:18:37.159 --> 01:18:40.859
got... He got far for a reason, but there's a

01:18:40.859 --> 01:18:43.560
ceiling with him. And he's already hit it. Golden

01:18:43.560 --> 01:18:48.699
Boy Protection Program? Yes, 100%. In my opinion,

01:18:48.720 --> 01:18:50.359
I don't even think he should be headlining the

01:18:50.359 --> 01:18:54.079
card. He lost his last fight. I mean, I think

01:18:54.079 --> 01:18:58.260
Oscar Collazo or even Gabby should headline this

01:18:58.260 --> 01:19:01.560
card. But I mean, it makes sense if he's hosting

01:19:01.560 --> 01:19:05.319
in Anaheim, they're more focused on getting people

01:19:05.319 --> 01:19:07.699
to buy tickets rather than... People watching

01:19:07.699 --> 01:19:11.180
the fight on streaming. Yeah, they had lowriders

01:19:11.180 --> 01:19:17.779
in the promo stuff. Yeah. Very clear demographic

01:19:17.779 --> 01:19:22.359
that they're catering to. 100%. I'm actually

01:19:22.359 --> 01:19:24.039
considering going to the fight because it might

01:19:24.039 --> 01:19:26.420
be cheap as hell. Oh, it's going to be cheap

01:19:26.420 --> 01:19:32.180
as hell. Yeah. With... On Boxing Before Dark,

01:19:32.319 --> 01:19:35.619
I was saying, like, I went for our parting words.

01:19:35.680 --> 01:19:43.060
Like, I went to Matchroom, and Shonato is going

01:19:43.060 --> 01:19:44.880
to the card that we're about to talk about in

01:19:44.880 --> 01:19:49.979
a second. So, my parting words were, if you can

01:19:49.979 --> 01:19:55.250
go, fucking go. So. I'm going to repeat that

01:19:55.250 --> 01:19:57.729
to you. If you can go. If you can go. You're

01:19:57.729 --> 01:19:59.250
not putting yourself out. You can take your lady

01:19:59.250 --> 01:20:04.710
with you. Go. I'm thinking. It's selling fast.

01:20:04.909 --> 01:20:10.470
Let me see. Pre -game. Oh, damn. $36. What? That's

01:20:10.470 --> 01:20:13.270
a good price. Bro, you got to go. Or ringside

01:20:13.270 --> 01:20:18.649
$150. Ringside? Bro, dude. What? My tickets were

01:20:18.649 --> 01:20:22.850
like that much. And I wasn't on the floor. Damn.

01:20:23.630 --> 01:20:26.449
Dude, get lower bowl. Lower bowl like front row.

01:20:27.289 --> 01:20:29.789
Don't be on the floor. Floor seats are garbage.

01:20:31.789 --> 01:20:36.590
Let me show you. I might just go with this one.

01:20:37.390 --> 01:20:40.609
Because I get to see Gabby, Oscar, and Arnold.

01:20:41.609 --> 01:20:44.369
And you get to see Penno Diaz get his ass beat.

01:20:45.130 --> 01:20:49.090
Yeah, I mean, come on. Again, it'll be a good

01:20:49.090 --> 01:20:50.590
watch. It'll be a good watch to go watch for

01:20:50.590 --> 01:20:55.270
boxing. Just go watch the boxing. Especially

01:20:55.270 --> 01:21:03.909
at that price. Jesus. The 222 section and the

01:21:03.909 --> 01:21:11.970
208 section. Those are good. If you get a seat

01:21:11.970 --> 01:21:18.449
that's by a corner, you might not luck out and

01:21:18.449 --> 01:21:22.289
you get the camera corner. That's true. If you

01:21:22.289 --> 01:21:24.670
could get red or blue, it's good because it's

01:21:24.670 --> 01:21:27.550
always going to be clear during the rounds. But

01:21:27.550 --> 01:21:30.770
the neutral corners, that's a gamble. And they

01:21:30.770 --> 01:21:32.670
don't ever put out which corners they're going

01:21:32.670 --> 01:21:39.390
to be where. I might just go my part. I think

01:21:39.390 --> 01:21:43.270
you should go. If you can, you should go. Let

01:21:43.270 --> 01:21:48.649
me see. But let's keep it rolling here. Golden

01:21:48.649 --> 01:21:51.949
Boy. Anything more for the Golden Boy card? Besides

01:21:51.949 --> 01:21:56.270
Saul, you gotta go. Pre -game in the parking

01:21:56.270 --> 01:21:58.689
lot, don't pay fucking $50 for a single game.

01:21:58.689 --> 01:22:04.470
Pre -game in the parking lot. Yeah, the StubHub

01:22:04.470 --> 01:22:08.170
Center, or like Dignity Health, whatever the

01:22:08.170 --> 01:22:14.729
fuck, they have a, it's the LA Galaxy stadium

01:22:14.729 --> 01:22:20.930
as well. So, they have a, like, you can tailgate.

01:22:21.260 --> 01:22:24.479
they have places to dump your charcoal when you're

01:22:24.479 --> 01:22:29.119
done grilling. You can fucking tailgate boxing

01:22:29.119 --> 01:22:33.880
events. That's pretty sweet. Pretty damn cool.

01:22:36.579 --> 01:22:39.539
Alright, let's get the last card out of the way.

01:22:39.619 --> 01:22:43.300
This is straight up Mighty Minis across the board.

01:22:44.140 --> 01:22:47.909
At the top of the bill. Anthony Olaskwaga, the

01:22:47.909 --> 01:22:54.949
WBO flyweight champ, is facing Jukia Imura. This

01:22:54.949 --> 01:22:59.409
is the one Shanada was most excited about. Tamanu

01:22:59.409 --> 01:23:03.630
Neomtron, a .k .a. Knockout CP Freshmark, is...

01:23:03.630 --> 01:23:09.390
The GOAT. Of the Mighty Minis, he is ATG, for

01:23:09.390 --> 01:23:14.680
sure. He is defending his WBC... light flyweight

01:23:14.680 --> 01:23:22.039
title against Shokichi Iwata. Nonito Donair and

01:23:22.039 --> 01:23:27.340
Riko Masuda are in a WBA bantamweight eliminator.

01:23:28.199 --> 01:23:31.840
Both of these guys had really close fights with

01:23:31.840 --> 01:23:37.840
the WBA champ, Seiya Tsutsumi. So, makes sense

01:23:37.840 --> 01:23:42.329
that they're competing for a second shot. Who

01:23:42.329 --> 01:23:47.930
else? Ryusei Matsumoto versus Yuni Takada. The

01:23:47.930 --> 01:23:52.449
WBA regular minimum weight titles on the line.

01:23:52.470 --> 01:23:55.810
Like, dude, how are there enough minimum weights

01:23:55.810 --> 01:23:59.569
to warrant a regular title and a super title?

01:23:59.949 --> 01:24:06.829
What the fuck? What, you're telling me you're

01:24:06.829 --> 01:24:16.140
not a fan of this? I love boxing, just in all

01:24:16.140 --> 01:24:20.979
its forms. Pro -box good. Pro -box good. Pro

01:24:20.979 --> 01:24:23.539
-box good. I'll leave it. Knockout CP, fresh

01:24:23.539 --> 01:24:29.079
Martha Goat. Exactly. Yeah. And, like, in the

01:24:29.079 --> 01:24:33.420
developmental series, the largest fighters on

01:24:33.420 --> 01:24:37.000
the card, Hayato Aiko versus Natsuki Kuremochi

01:24:37.000 --> 01:24:42.180
at featherweight. Shenandoah will be in attendance.

01:24:42.640 --> 01:24:48.260
We will all be watching. Fuck. Knockout CP Freshmark.

01:24:48.359 --> 01:24:54.079
We're here for it. Was that good? Did I sell

01:24:54.079 --> 01:24:57.779
the excitement? Did that do it? Alright, cool.

01:25:01.979 --> 01:25:04.579
Saul, I would recommend checking out the latest

01:25:04.579 --> 01:25:09.659
of Boxing Before Dark. You are mentioned several

01:25:09.659 --> 01:25:13.279
times. several times oh i wonder if it's good

01:25:13.279 --> 01:25:17.000
or bad it's all slander it is it's it's a lot

01:25:17.000 --> 01:25:24.020
of um counter punches i'll say oh lord but in

01:25:24.020 --> 01:25:26.340
the most recent in the most recent one yeah just

01:25:26.340 --> 01:25:31.180
dropped like uh an hour or two ago i'll watch

01:25:31.180 --> 01:25:36.260
today um all right so we are heading into sol

01:25:36.260 --> 01:25:42.039
strip to the honda center Pardon words. Roland

01:25:42.039 --> 01:25:44.859
Romero disputed 2026. Fuck Devin Haney. Fuck

01:25:44.859 --> 01:25:47.899
Ryan Garcia. Fuck Lewis Crocker. Fuck Virgil

01:25:47.899 --> 01:25:52.579
Ortiz. No, we love Virgil Ortiz here. I do. And

01:25:52.579 --> 01:26:00.819
fuck Zufa. Roblox good. Roblox good. I'll reiterate.

01:26:01.699 --> 01:26:05.340
I'm not sure if I'm going to cut all that chatter

01:26:05.340 --> 01:26:07.939
out about your particular seating arrangements.

01:26:08.920 --> 01:26:12.039
I probably will. So I'll just read it. I'll say

01:26:12.039 --> 01:26:17.680
it again. If you can go, go. Even club shows

01:26:17.680 --> 01:26:24.020
are a lot of fun. So if you can, do. Club shows

01:26:24.020 --> 01:26:27.840
are not expensive. Even the drinks and stuff,

01:26:27.920 --> 01:26:30.760
the concessions are not that expensive compared

01:26:30.760 --> 01:26:37.300
to a big card. So if you can, do. You will be...

01:26:37.789 --> 01:26:40.670
You'll never regret that you did. I'll leave

01:26:40.670 --> 01:26:43.689
it at that. All right. That's it for this edition

01:26:43.689 --> 01:26:47.869
of the Boxing B -Sides. We'll see you on the

01:26:47.869 --> 01:26:48.310
other side.