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Alright, let's fucking boogie. Oh shit, the boxing
B -Sides. Back up in your ears. We are here to
talk the fights. I am joined by Comrade Josh.
Become Chinese now. And the one and only Saul.
What's up, guys? We are comrades now after the...
This is a Chinese podcast. Yeah. A couple of
fateful incidents happened in our country. The
murder of Alex Preddy. They are now comrades
at this point. I'm trying to increase my social
credit score. why is selby moved to section 8
housing also hurtful oh man this one probably
not gonna land for you guys but extending the
hand of friendship to our fellows over at the
ultimate effing casuals where we talk mma this
weekend usc 325 um there are some decent fights
on here uh one Just a few examples. Let's see.
Quillen Salkild is fighting Rong Zhu. He had
one of the knockouts of the year for 2025. Let's
see. Who else? Dan Hooker versus Benoit Santany.
BSD is a fucking machine. And in the main...
Alexander Volkanovski, the featherweight champ,
versus Diego Lopez. This is a rematch. The first
fight was pretty lopsided. We talk about it over
on Ultimate FN Casuals. We're pretty confused
why this is happening. But hey, you gotta make
do with what you got. So, enough MMA talk. First
thing I wanted to talk about in the news. The
Ali Revival Act clears committee. This does not
mean that it has passed. For those who are unfamiliar
with American legislation, first, bills or amendments
start in committee. Once they pass committee,
they move to the Speaker of the House who decides
whether or not it will be heard for a vote. Assuming
it will be because Dana White friends with Trump
and Mike Johnson does whatever Trump tells them
to do. This is going to be heard for a vote.
Right now, the numbers are such that it will
pass the House. But after that, it has to go
to committee in the Senate and repeat the process
in the Senate, where I'm not sure it has enough
votes to pass. So there are some. There are some
barriers that this has to clear before it becomes
law. So, you know, don't get your fucking skirts
in a bunch yet. But some of the changes to the
Muhammad Ali Boxing Revival Act are thus. The
fighter minimum pay has increased from $150 a
round to $200 a round. The minimum insurance
coverage increases from $25 ,000 to $50 ,000.
All fighter contracts have a six -year sunset
clause. Secondary titles are eliminated. There
is a mandate of one champion per division. It
does allow for interim fights if the champion
is injured. Or whatever. Something is not preventing
them from competing. And this one's a little
wonky. A random drug testing for all fights.
Both fighters in a title fight must be tested.
And a randomized half of all fighters on a card
must be tested. So one fighter in each fight
will be tested. You don't know which one. And
this will all be to the world anti -doping agency
standard. It's quite a bit. Yeah. It's a lot.
Josh, what do you got? I like their kind of...
I get it. I get there's a lot in here. Like,
a lot of the modifications ended up being positive.
Because if you... have read a lot of, you've
read all the documentation, but all these things
are added in committee rather than being a part
of the act as it was brought up. And I don't
mind the changes, but the broad strokes basically
like getting rid of those barriers to being a
promoter and a manager of a fighter. Yes. They're
still troubling. The way I'm looking at it is
all these changes basically fix the bottom potential
of the sport, but they're going to end up basically
leveling it to that bottom. It's not about what's
in front of you on the text, it's how it's going
to be used by the powers that are bringing it
into existence. Because a lot of these changes
aren't bad, it's just... You already know this
is mostly a PR play by a group that you're going
to see fighters pay slashed to these minimums
real quick instead of what they're worth because
that is and has always been the UFC model of
doing business. That's most employers in the
US. It's like, how little can I get away with
paying you? Yeah, like that's why we have labor
standards. And I get the minimum. The minimum
isn't like rare. Rarely is even at club shows
like it's based on the tickets you sell. So like
those minimums are rarely ever a factor. But
it's that it's just that relationship between
promoter and manager that the act was created
to prevent. That concerns me when it comes to
this act. I agree 100%. I feel like there's a
good amount of things in here that are positive.
I think that getting rid of a lot of those belts
will help streamline at least the simplicity
of knowing who's champion and how people become
champion. I understand that in the case of like
the WBA like super duper and world and regular
belts but in terms of like how this would affect
say like the NABF Yeah, like the smaller titles.
I was going to bring that up. Yeah, like the
thing is that like those, like would those qualify
as the one belt under the one belt for division?
Are we still keeping regional belts, which are
really important for fighters on lesser promotions
to claw up a ranking and force fights? You know,
to me, this feels... Sorry, I should be finished.
Like the major... like the example here is how
the opbf basically lets uh smaller fighters from
non -money places get fights in the wbc and get
ranked and taking that away like the nabf is
also that stepping stone like when you see guys
you've never heard of in wba title fights usually
they took the nabf and then kept moving ebu is
another good example that's similar to the opbf
gets like people from um the czech republic who
are something montenegro they like they get they
work their way into a title fight through that
route so how that was something similar that
i talked to when i was talking with shinada about
it is how do these Like, regional organizations,
how are they affected by this? Yeah. One thing
this feels like is, I feel like this act is kind
of, feels like money laundering in a sense. Like,
it feels like they added a lot of things in here
after the fact, from when it was first conceived,
just to get it passed through just so that they
could benefit the Zufa, the people who wanted
to push this through as Zufa. People at Zufa.
So this adds on to what Josh was saying, that
they added a lot of good things to help the bottom
potential of the sport. But because of that,
it's going to level it out. Because it has also
a whole bunch of other shit that, like the UBO,
the UBO shit, that's going to, that's included
in there too. It's not like they're trying to
do this for the betterment of the sport. They're
just going to do it for the betterment of themselves.
Yeah, listening to like as it was in committee
being talked about, hearing like the different
representatives speak on it, there were some
very clear cases of some of them being on the
side of UBOs. And two, one of which I'm very
proud to mention, two that spoke up on behalf
of the fighters. were Ilhan Omar out of Minnesota
and Adelita Grijalva out of Arizona. So those
are two people who fucking stepped in to speak
up about protecting fighters and not UBOs or
whatever supposed free market competition that
this is supposed to create, which it doesn't.
A lot of the costs of these things like drug
testing and a lot of these minimums are going
to be borne by club shows, club fighters, and
club promoters. They're not going to be able
to do WADA testing for half of the fucking card.
I'm sure they can't afford it for just the main
event or else they probably would. The one thing
that I was hoping to hear was that maybe the
state athletic commissions could step in on that
part. But we have, we've yet to see. There was
the executive officer of the California State
Athletic Commission, and he was speaking in favor
of a lot of these changes. And in the short term,
or on their face, they sound great. Increasing
fighter minimum pay, increasing insurance coverage,
that's fantastic. But when you think about how
that's going to be applied, not we're not talking
about match room or pbc or or top rank even even
though they're in a little bit of a weird state
right now the those who are going to be bearing
the brunt of this are at the bottom of the food
chain and it's going to eliminate like grassroots
competition just and also kind of Add on to the
railroads fighters into instead of signing, instead
of listening to, let's say, a manager that they
like has their best interest in mind. It railroads
that much like Don King in the 80s railroads
them into the is basically me or you never get
a career type of promotion slash management.
Yeah, if you don't sign with Zufa or you're not
lucky enough to be picked by Matchroom or PBC,
then you don't compete. And your career ends
there. Yeah, this is, it's tough to see. Man.
I don't know. Anybody else have closing thoughts?
Because I'm at a loss. This act is a fucking
travesty. Well, the thing is that the fact that
fighters are already struggling. People don't
want to join the sport at the very bottom of
it. I think it's also going to discourage people
from joining the pros also. Coming out of the
amateur system. If they even go into. if they
even decide to join at all at that point it might
discourage people from becoming promoters or
becoming managers or just being involved in the
sport in general at the club level because it's
too much fucking money you know and in turn you
have less you have less of an opportunity as
an amateur to be built up in that way you know
So as much as the amateur scene is getting killed
right now, it's going to be killing the bottom
tier of the scene, which is going to end up trickling
up or spreading to the top because then you have
even less talent going up. That's why there's
no American heavyweights. It's because no guy
that's an American heavyweight size wants to
join the amateurs. I'd rather try for the NFL
than get my fucking face pummeled. Or even if
I'm tall as shit and not built for the NFL, I
can go play basketball in Europe and make a very
healthy living versus at no cost to my life or
limb, might I add. Exactly. As much as the amateur
scene is fucked, I mean, this fucks the pro scene
as much. Yeah. At this point, the only thing
I can really suggest, is if you're an American
listener, call your representative, tell them
to oppose this bill. Call your senator, tell
them to oppose this bill. That's the best we
can do right now. Unfortunately... Heap pirating
UFC events. Dana White hates that shit. But,
yeah, we had to start it off with a more difficult
note. Before we move to... Gervonta Davis has
been officially stripped by the WBA. He is on
the run from the federal marshals. Nobody knows
where he is. As of right now, no one knows where
he is. This shit is beyond funny. How do you
lose him? Well, he's so tiny. I get that, but
how do you lose him, bro? He's on the lam, yeah.
I mean, he's a fucking... Fucking star. How do
you lose that type of... You know? Yeah, like,
come on, bro. Like, especially, like, he definitely...
Like, you've seen his cars, too. Like, there
is no way... They aren't just gonna, like...
They haven't... They just haven't looked for
him. He's not driving away in a Nissan Altima.
Alright? Yeah, like... He's in a fucking Rolls
or something. He's in a fucking Rolls... He's
in a Rolls Royce with... The license place T4NK.
Like, come on. Like, be so fucking for real with
me right now, bro. Nah, he's gotta be somewhere.
He's on fucking... He might not even be in the
country, actually. Might be gone. Might be in
Dagestan. That was kind of a joke I made with
Shanada was, like, if you check his Google search
history... It's non -extradition countries. But
at the same time, you have to think, does Gervonta
Davis, can he, does he know about, like, does
that cross his mind? You know, he's not very
book smart. He could be hanging out with Andrew
Tate and his brother in Romania. Those boys are
back. They're in the US. They were so bad that
even Romania extradited them. Tank is going to
become red -pilled, I guess. Right -wing grift
tank, bro. Yeah, right -wing grift tank, yeah.
All the way in fucking Romania. Well, let's keep
rolling with some bad news here. Jai Opataya
signs with Zufa. Now, something I had... Shanada
mentioned that in her... boxing news diet, she
came across some rumors that Obataya gets paid
fucking dog shit by Tasman Fighters, the promotional
group that he's with in Australia. He gets paid
absolute dog shit. So for Zufa to be a step in
a better direction for him tells you a lot about
where he was. in his boxing career. Well, he's
still a fucking champion. Yeah. IBF. So Leo and
I were talking about this earlier. We were discussing
it. The fact that Zufa is signed a champion in
and of itself is a little concerning, but the
fact that they're not stripping him and he's
still going to be fighting for other belts shows
that Zufa in and of itself doesn't have any teeth
in the game right now. Where they could run their
own fucking promotional model, their own belt,
their own organization. Because they're still
fighting under another roof. IBF rules for Obata.
Yeah, IBF. Exactly. And they still want to fight
Zerto for his titles or McClellan. How the fuck
do you say his name? McClellan. McClellan? For
his title. Yeah, McClellan. Yeah, they want to
do a unification with McClellan. You know, they're
still fighting under the old rules. So, I mean,
it just shows you that Zilpha is not... He doesn't
have his teeth right now. Cheese sticks. It's
disobeying its own foundation. My thinking here
is they're going to get Opitaya, who currently
has the IBF, as you mentioned. They're going
to try to get him to be undisputed. So that they
can then crown him with the Zufa title and say,
look, the undisputed champion is the Zufa champion.
You know what I mean? That's my thinking of what
they're trying to do here. That's only going
to happen if, let's say, Benavidez beats Zerto.
If they fight Benavidez, what if Benavidez wins?
Then what, do you have a fucking bomb? You know?
Yeah. He can fucking lose a fight. Random ass
Australian dude on your promotion. Excellent.
Yeah. Who the fuck is Jairo Pataya? Oh, he's
some Tasmanian guy. He lost to some of the best
guys in boxing. Also, he's not the champ. Well,
he's the champion of our organization. And that's
just fine. Yeah. You know, I might just start.
Obviously, if it's against David Benavidez, I'm
always going to root for David. But, like, I
really want Obitai to lose. Because, damn, that
would be a big fucking little finger to Zufa.
There's, I think you guys might know him as Slick.
He goes by Slick Terror Moana Jab in Discord.
Jacob. Australian Jacob. Yeah. He mentioned that
this, as bad as it is for us to see this happen
as fans, this is a good step for Opitaya, just
him personally. He's getting the money while
he can, as much money as he can while he can,
given the nature of the sport. His time is not
long. You know what I mean? So he's getting the
money while he can. He's getting in on the ground
floor so he can get deals like this where he
can continue to fight under the old system and
unify with other fighters. And that's great for
him. It's good for him. And that's great right
now. But we know, like in the future, Fighters
are not going to get that kind of leeway. So,
I can, as much as I really, really want to shit
on Zufa, just, I guess, Opitaya, if this is how
you want to get paid, man, then my best wishes.
50 Gs, baby. Yep. Get that performance bonus.
Man, do you realize that the 50 G's is the same
as the Ice signing bonus? That's fucking crazy.
The signing bonus for Ice is the same as the
fucking Zufa bonus. Comrade, this has gotten
a fucking disgrace. It's a disgrace, bro. Like,
good for Jai for trying to get that bag, but
like... Like, I just thought about it. ICE officers
are getting paid better than you. Yeah, if I
see Jai Upataya at a fucking protest, trying
to arrest my ICE, I'm calling Murder's Isle over.
Well, you gotta stage the ultimate battle. ICE
Upataya versus Zerto. It's fucking perfect. ICE
Upataya. ICE Upataya. Oh my god. Ah. Someone
who was able to resist the Sauron's ring. Matchroom
beats Zufa's offer to Bam Rodriguez. Word is
Bam is still shopping, as is his right. But Zufa
did make him an offer. Matchroom beat that offer.
Bam is still checking around. If for all intents
and purposes, Bam is going back to Matchroom.
It's a very smart decision. Thank fucking fuck.
Very smart decision because, again, who the fuck
is Azufa in his weight class, you know? I mean,
signing with Matchroom is also smart because
same thing with other promoters besides, I would
say, TopRank, you know, PBC, Gary Jonas' ProBox.
Queensbury. And then we've got a lot of guys
down there. TopRank has some guys, but I mean,
it's fucking, dude, they're on Tubi. Do you want
to be on fucking Tubi? Is Eddie Hearn saving
boxing in 2026? Is that what's happening right
now? He is, bro. It's over. It's so over for
this fucking sport. Jesus fucking fuck. Well,
he started it. He started the end. Now he's on
his hero comeback story. Yeah, he did get The
turkey machine rolling. But yeah, Zufa tried
to get Bam. That would mean that Bam would have
to move up to 118 since Zufa doesn't recognize
the non -original weight classes, which is interesting
that they signed Opitaya because cruiserweight
is not one of the original weight classes. But
I don't know. Maybe he'll be a light heavy or
heavy. I think they're going to keep him at cruiserweight
because cruiserweight pretty much sucks. There's
only two other fighters for him to be undisputed.
And like to be, I don't know if it's to be fair,
but Kellerman saying on the Zufa. like broadcast
just full -throating opitaya as the head of cruiserweight
so it that's like their premier guy right now
so yeah which is not saying much it's not saying
a lot yeah they got they got so far they got
giant rio fuck clap clap clap good bro bro they
got they got two guys who fight and what they
consider fake weight classes. Exactly. Yeah.
Fucking whores. Oh, shit. Speaking of whores,
Wilder is going to be fighting Derek Chisora
in April. Instead of Usyk, that was previously
rumored, it'll now be Wilder versus Chisora.
It's looking like the Sauerland Brothers. of
Wasserman Boxing will be the promoters of this.
And it's going to be in the UK. Shinada thinks
Chizora beats Wilder. What do you guys think?
I'm just trying to agree with you. He's less
washed. Yeah, probably, actually. You're right.
I mean, Wilder, he basically lost his eye to
the tiger. The bronze bomber died. And now we
have Deontay Wilder. Yeah, we got Ayahuasca.
Ayahuasca Wilder. We got Shane Mosley before
he got divorced from his wife. Ayahuasca. But
yeah, it's looking like Wilder Chisora. I did
see a fucking rumor. Also, that Andy Ruiz would
be fighting Usyk instead. Like, at the same time
leading up to their eventual bout. But then I
saw Andy Ruiz versus Tyson Fury. And I'm not
sure what to make of that. Yeah, that just means
they're making Usyk Fury 3. Jeez, no. Please,
no. I mean, I would have loved to see Usyk versus...
fucking Andy Ruiz in, what, 2019 and after. But
now it's like, so what? He ain't gonna win. You
know? Same thing with Ruiz and Fury. After the
fight with Joshua, that would have been a banger.
You know? That would have been gangbusters, but...
Fuck it. They know how to lose. They know how
to lose this shit. There is no chance that you're
going to catch me cheering for a goddamn Brit
while there's a red -blooded American in the
ring. So I will be pulling for my man Deontay.
But the odds, I think, are favoring Chisora.
When was the last time Deontay won a fight that
wasn't fucking Richard Torres? Yeah, that mattered.
That's a fantastic question. Hellenius. Does
that matter? Does that count? No, no. Doesn't.
Last one for that was Fury Fight, Fury Fight,
King Kong. That might be it. Yeah, but generally,
when was the last fight that he won that mattered?
I don't know. Even Andy Ruiz fucking... at least
went to a draw with Jarrell Miller, which is
not even that... You know? Derek Chisora, in
his last fight, at least won against, I think,
top 20? The way somebody put it in Discord was,
anyone who's anyone at heavyweight has beaten
Chisora. And... If you want to set up a fight
with Usyk, beating Chizora is a good way to make
it. Maybe two years ago. Maybe two, maybe ten,
dude. Yeah, ten. Shit. Been a while. Oh, shit.
Virgil Ortiz is suing Goldenboy Promotions for
breach of contract. And he's trying to end his
contract with Golden Boy Promotions. Dang. Fuck.
Yeah. I don't want to have Josh continue, by
the way. No, I was just going to say, SMH, he's
finding another way to duck. No. That's not what
I meant by continue. That's not what we meant.
Oh, I know. I mean, honestly. Shaking my head.
He's just trying to duck. And now we're. If he
breaks away from Golden Boy, that fight's likelier
than ever. It is more like than ever. It's very
exciting. Because Oscar's incentivized to keep
him around longer without fighting boots. Because
that's a tough fight. Yeah. Yeah. That's a very
tough fight. Very, very much a 50 -50 fight.
But that's a pretty high chance that your fighter
can lose. And you'll lose. You'll lose any star
power that you would have had with the Mexican
community. I mean, if you look at it, Oscar only
has one guy at this point that is going to stay
with him, and that's Cerdo, but he's going to
lose soon. Cerdo is going to lose to Benavidez.
Exactly. I mean, I'm glad that Virgil is trying
to get out, but I feel like at the same time,
it's also kind of... There might be a chance
that he might just be doing this as a negotiation
tactic with his own promoter, if that makes any
sense. Going to court, that's a serious step
versus, like, I don't know, going to another
promoter and saying, like, this is what they're
offering. You fucking suck. Why don't you fix
our relationship? Well, the way it sounded like
with Robert, because I saw an interview with
Robert, Robert Garcia. And he didn't speak very
much in detail about it, but it didn't sound
like it was... Not like Oscar did some crazy
backdoor shit, but more like he's just not working
out for us. We need something better. You know?
From what it sounds like, from what I've read
and all the rumors and everything, the rift is...
that Virgil's manager, Rick Morigian, I think
that's how his name is pronounced, is trying
to negotiate with Matchroom to make the boots
fight, whereas Oscar is trying to finagle it
to make it something else. Spence, for some fucking
reason. I'll excuse a fight with... If you were
to fight Fandora next, which, as we know now,
is not happening. Yeah, fight a champion. It's
understandable. Yeah. But Fandora's taken up.
Xayah's taken up. And Baru and... They're all
taken up. Xayah's getting packed up by Baru.
What do you mean? We'll talk about that right
now. We'll get there in a moment. He's getting
slimed. Anything more on the news? That's all
we got on this one. Virgil, please do not fucking
go to Zufa. If you do, I will not support your
ass. I will actively hit against you. And I have
been your strongest soldier. Along with Isaac.
Isaac's gonna be alone in that. You think he'll
stand by if Virgil goes to Zufa? Or Isaac can't
stand. He'll be sitting. He'll be sitting. But
yes, he will sit by Virgil. Isaac, you better
fight back on your pod. You better say some shit
back. No one listened to that shit. Shit, we're
in a civil war right now. This is the... Jesus.
Hey, Isaac, you gotta get him back. No. Virgil,
you better not go to Zufa. If you're going to
go to someone, go to PBC or Matchroom. I'll get
a soundbite next time we record and I'll play
it back. And to our recaps, we don't have a lot.
Friday, January 16th. Woof. No limit boxing at
the Brisbane Entertainment Center. Not a whole
lot going on here. Liam Wilson gets a stoppage
in four over Rodex Piala. Who is Rodex? What
kind of name is Rodex? Those are excellent questions.
Go to No Limits YouTube channel. Roadhead? That's
all I thought. Nikita Zoo. No contest with Michael
Zarafa. There was a cut. I will not say there
wasn't a cut, because there certainly was. Judging
by the cut man himself showing the swab, it was
not a bad cut. It was manageable. The cut man
clearly seemed capable of taking care of it.
Zarafa told the ref multiple times that he could
not see. After in the post -fight interview,
Zarafa said he wanted to continue. And he doesn't
know why it was stopped. So there's a very clear
disconnect there. Zarafa was fucking losing.
And it looks like he took a way out. This is
a quick moment to plug Boxing Before Dark on
this same channel, wherever you're listening.
The most recent episode includes Jacob. He's
Australian. He's a boxer himself. So he can give
you a really good breakdown of this situation.
It was fucking weird, to say the least. Moving
on. Goldenboy on DAZN. There were other fights
on this card, very few of which I cared about.
Scrappy Ramirez gets squeaks by. Majority decision.
Congrats, I guess. This was like a Goldenboy
prospect dog and pony show. It wasn't great.
Ruslan Abdullayev stops Eduardo Abreu in five.
So congrats to you. He did look actually, he
actually looked pretty good. And he's only in
this, that was his fourth pro fight. So. And
Raul Correal, he takes late replacement Jordan
Panthen. And that goes to a UD. Jordan, for being
a late replacement, he was actually pretty damn
competitive. He didn't come to lay down. He definitely
tried to make the best of the opportunity that
he had. So congrats on not getting made into
a highlight reel. And, yeah, being tough. He
gave it his all. And on an otherwise not really
promoted well card. Yeah. I think there wasn't
a weigh -in, right? It wasn't like a televised
weigh -in. No. Not that I recall. I think they
gave Panthen, like, leeway on his weight because
he was fighting down the bill. At a higher weight
class. And so they gave him... It was a catch
weight, pretty much. I gotta respect Panther
for stepping up. Saving a card. And he put up
a damn good fight. Like we said, he made the
most of an opportunity. I gotta give him all
my flowers for that. He certainly lasted longer
than I would have. In a 10 -round fight with
Kuriel. Anything more for the recaps? No. Nope.
All right. Nothing more. A little bit of notes
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slash mwb. Preview time. Boys, we got a busy,
busy weekend. Are you ready for all this fucking
boxing? Let me ask the audience. Are they ready
to hear all Josh's ranting? Because I think he's
going to be ranting very, very soon. Actually,
I'm pretty content with this weekend. There's
actually only one guy I really could say I want
gone, and it's not going to be the one you think.
Okay, I have my guesses, and I'll hold it until
we get to it. All right, so starting off, this
is the most beautiful, succulent, rich -tasting
appetizer that you could ever ask for. For a
big boxing weekend. Friday January 30th. Pro
Box TV. This will be free on YouTube. This. If
you have the opportunity. To go. The live casino
and hotel. In Hanover Maryland. If you can go.
Fucking do go. Pro Box is like the. It's like
the lifeblood. Of this fucking sport man. Moving
up the bill, there are a lot of names that you're
not going to recognize that doesn't really matter.
Probox makes even matched events. They put guys
in fights where either guy is equally liable
to lose. If you come into a Probox event with
an undefeated record, you better be ready to
risk it. Yeah, you're not going to get babied.
In the co -main event, Sulaiman Sagawa versus
Renee Palacios. Sulaiman Sagawa, if you know,
you know. And you know you're getting a good
fight with Sagawa in it. And headlining, Brian
Flores versus Starling Castillo. Hold on. Starling
Castillo has a very interesting name. Sparkinson
Starling Wilson Almonte Castillo is his full
name. That's just fantastic. But yeah, that's
ProBox. It's going to be a good time. Let's move
to Saturday, January 31st. These fights will
not be listed in order chronologically. They're
just going to be listed in order of importance.
So starting us off, primetime boxing on DAZN
in Kolding, Denmark. Not a whole lot going on
in this card. In the co -main, Tina Torslund.
Versus Lila Furtado. Interim WBC featherweight
title. That's a women's fight. Dina is not bad.
If you want to give women's fights a chance.
That's not a bad one to do it. In the main. Jacob
Bank versus William Skull. That same William
Skull. So that's happening. Is this... This is
my guess for Josh's... William Scull? No, actually.
Really? Yes, it is. It's in the top rank card.
Oh, okay. Never mind then. Oh, I know which one
it is. I was going to say, I got no... William
Scull is like... He's boring, but also like...
He's a deeply negative fighter, but also... You
know, it's not like... he's completely unbeatable
and unhittable. Like, I'm sure a good enough
operator at 168 who isn't faded can totally at
least touch him up and make him fight. Well,
that's my pick, bust. Canceled. Adam Azeem versus
Gustavo Lemos. Both guys pulled out of this one,
right? Lemos pulled out first. The replacement,
there was a replacement, then Azeem pulled out.
Why did Azeem pull out? He was injured as well.
Jesus Christ. Yeah, I was looking forward to
this. Azeem versus Lemos. Azeem is stepping up
his competition. But what are you going to do?
Yeah, fuck it. Matchroom at the Newcastle Arena.
Now, there's other stuff on the bill. I'm sure
they're wonderful fights. My two picks here,
Josh Padley versus Jawad Belmedi. I practiced
that one on Boxing Before Dark. Jawad. That's
a tough one. Four fucking vowels in a row, dude.
What the fuck is this? So yeah, Josh Padley,
the people's electrician, and Makram Murtazaliev
versus Josh Kelly for the IBF Super Welterweight
title. Comrade Padley. Yeah. I mean, I can't...
I was telling Leo before this. I literally cannot
make a case for the Murtazilov fight versus Kelly
other than Murtazilov destruction over Kelly.
I'm happy with him getting back in the ring and
I'm extra happy that he's going to just like
eviscerate Josh Kelly. One thing I will say and
I was... I'm gonna give Kelly... I'm going to
try to defend Kelly, okay? And it's not even
going to be based even off his skill or anything
that he can do, but a fate itself. I got a weird
feeling that Britain's going to become filled
with champions this year after that win from
Don Smith. Oh, my God. It is the end times. Hold
up, hold up, hold up, hold up. If Britain's on
the upswing and Kelly wins, It might just fucking...
It might be fate. It might just be fate. Because
you got Bobby Wardley becoming a champ. You got
Donald Smith. It might be fate that you have
a British champion in this division. Right, guys?
Come on. Anybody? Nobody? Listen, man. Anything
to get boots are free. A free title, I guess.
Hey. Let's go Murda Zaylov, though, because he's
going to win. Yeah. Say anything to give Boots
a free title, man. I got you. I want to pose
a conspiracy theory here. Oh, shit. With what
Saul just said about 2026 being the year of British
champions. Now, if we think about the American
legislation that we just talked about. What if
the sanctioning bodies funnel their belts into
other countries? Oh, shit. That's kind of a...
That's fucking crazy, but that... Hey. That's
got some merit, right? It's got some amount of
merit. You put money in the right pockets, and
maybe Josh Kelly wins. Oh, well, Mertazaliev
is Russian, so never mind. This is not the best
example, but... But he's with an American promoter.
True. So, there's that. But just food for thought.
Maybe. Maybe not. I didn't even think about that
until now. That's crazy. Could be. Anything more
for Matchroom? Moving on to top rank on... Yeah,
this could be on... Brazzers? Yeah, top rank
on Brazzers. That's exactly what is fucking happening
right now. They would probably get more fucking
viewership on Brazzers, too. This is on Tubi,
Pluto TV, Fubo, fucking Roku, Vizio, wherever
you can get the channel. Top Rank Classics. You
will find this fight. Moving up the bill, I see
Juanmita Lopez is in a fight with Connor Goad.
It's going to be a good fight. Juanmita is a
very nice prospect. For being one of the small
guys, he's really explosive. It's pretty fucking
cool. Let's see. Giovanni Santillan is moving
up to super welterweight. He's fighting Courtney
Pennington. Holy shit. 17, 11, and 3. A little
bit scraping the bottom of the barrel for that
guy. So, yeah. That is certainly a fight. In
the co -main, Rohan Polanco versus Christian
Gomez. Polanco is a solid prospect at welterweight.
Christian Gomez looks like a durable type of
guy that they pulled out. I'm expecting Polanco
to get this done early. I'm not expecting much
from Gomez here. You might see a Polanco decision.
Possible, yeah. He hasn't been looking too, too
hot recently. In the main, Xander Zayas, the
WBO super welterweight champion versus WBA champ
Abbas Baru. Here's the one. I want Zayas gone,
dude. This guy is going to get the belt and hold
them hostage because of the depth of how deep
the division is. And that is... I think I disagree
with you. I want Zayas to lose. But I don't think
he is. I'm saying I want him gone. I'm just upset
that he's going to hold the belts hostage. It's
going to be rough. Have a 2B fighter. 2B unified
champion. 2B fight? Yeah, this guy's too be fighting.
I mean, hey, honestly, if top rank can't get
a fucking deal going, they might put him in a
hard fight. Or they'll send him somewhere else.
They might have him unified. If they can't get
a deal, then they're going to have to send him
off to fight like Fundora or Murtazaliev. This
is true. Or fight Virgil, maybe, or Boots. Right.
Yeah, those are good payouts. Exactly. I don't
know. It would be hard for them. You know, I
feel like they would want to keep the Puerto
Rican fan base with them, whatever they got left.
He would be their single lifeboat, Xander Zayas.
Like, get on the lifeboat while you can, because
the top -ranked ship is fucking sinking. Oh,
yeah. I mean, I generally think Zayas is going
to beat Abbas Barrow. I know that. In the last
fight, he looked like a damn good dog. Yo, and
that's Tejas, though. Come on. Exactly. Look,
Abos fought really well last time. He showed
heart, and he's aggressive to an extent. I think
it's going to be a very good fight between the
two. But I just think Zayas has more... skills
to his game where he's only like 22 23 years
old and he's still got a lot more to learn whereas
abos browse but 30 31 he's already hit peak so
we don't we don't have we've already seen the
best of abos brow but we haven't seen the best
of zayas yet so i think the best is going to
come out of him in this fight because i don't
think he's taking this shit lightly i gotta give
him that i generally don't think that zander
zander is taking this shit with a grain of salt.
He's taking it with a whole tablespoon. You know?
So, as much as I don't want Zayas to hold the
belt hostage, I think he's going to win the fight
and become unified. At 154. The first unified
champion in what? Four years? Since Charlo? Since
Charlo, yeah. Or not Charlo, Jamal. So, it'll
be probably the... He would probably be the youngest
unified champion in the sport as well right now,
which is a feat in and of itself. Hell, they
might just try to push him on the damn pound
for pound if they wanted to. That's how Devin
Haney got up there. That would be a mistake.
Yes, that is likely what Top Rank and their PR
machine would try to do. Like that, no. We'll
have to see how he looks. We'll have to see how
he looks in this before we start talking about
Zaius, even as a unified champion. We'll see
if that's pound for pound worthy. Well, I mean,
honestly, if he's unified champion, he's got
a pretty decent case. He has a good claim. You're
right. Yeah. To be unified, you have a decent
case. I mean, we'll never know. Until after Saturday,
of course. I would like to say, on behalf of
Baru, his one defeat, if you watch that fight
with Jack Colquet, Jack Colquet did not win.
That's really all. For the sake of the memes,
Abbas Baru winning would really fucking make
me giggle. But I think you're right. I think
Zayas is... He's adequately preparing. And I
think he has the tools to make this fight work
for him. Still riding for Baru. Still riding
for him. That'll be a... That'll be a fun -ass
fight. That'll be a fun -ass fight, I'll tell
you that. You never know. He could be Zayas.
He could become Unified Champion and shit. Any
promotional company is going to want to fucking
eat his ass out, you know? Yeah. Boots is going
to jump on that if Virgil can't get made. Yeah.
And it's going to be with two belts that Virgil's
got no chance of getting. And Virgil will never
touch a world title. Well, you got to shut the
fuck up on that one. If Boots gets those titles,
Boots is going to be the best. Death, taxes,
Embiid never making a conference finals, and
Virgil never getting a world title. Yeah, yeah,
yeah. Who won this weekend? Who won this weekend?
We'll talk about it next week, but who won this
weekend? We'll talk about it next week. All right.
I really hope that this does not conflict with
Ring 6. This is a DAZN pay -per -view being held
at Madison Square Garden. Top to bottom, this
is a pretty solid card. From the bottom, we have
Jarrell Miller versus Kingsley Ibe. That is certainly
a fight. He's got a pretty cool name. Kingsley.
I think he goes by Black Lion. Black Lion. Damn.
I hope the Black Lion beats the Black Giant.
Bro, the Giant? Ziyad Almayouf is fighting Kevin
Castillo. Almayouf is a Saudi I don't think he
himself is Saudi, but he's an insert from the
Saudis. He's not bad, but he's still a plant.
Yeah. The vacant WBC featherweight title, Bruce
Carrington versus Carlos Castro. Carlos Castro,
I think, is number two or three in the WBC rankings
for the division. I would, as much as my heart
is with Carlos Castro, he's a local boy for me.
I don't think this is happening, buddy. Nope.
I love to clown on Shushu. especially for that
stupid -ass name. But, yeah, exactly. Moving
up, Keyshawn Davis versus Jermaine Ortiz. Not
a bad fight for Keyshawn to be kicking off his
140 run. I'm hopeful Ortiz will give as much
trouble as he gave to fucking Teofimo. And Lomachenko.
Well. I'm going to tell you this. It's going
to be a hard fight for Keyshawn. Yeah. Jermaine
does not. It's not an easy night to work for
people. He gave Lomachenko a hard fight. And
he gave Teofimo a hard fight. Where a lot of
people thought Teofimo lost. You know. So. If
Keyshawn can knock out Jermaine Ortiz. That will
send a message. He knocked out a guy that some
of the other names in the facility at the time,
he was considered one of the greatest fighters
of that era. If he can knock out Jermaine Ortiz,
that's going to be something that people are
going to talk about. That's all I got to say.
I hope he wins. Considering what's been happening
with Keyshawn, I don't know. It's unsure. I'm
unsure what's going to happen considering he's
going up weight class, hasn't fought since last
year. He's been a little inactive. He's been
dealing with some mental mishaps. But I got to
say that I hope Keyshawn wins. Do you think DB3
will try to jump Jermaine as well? If Keyshawn
loses. Oh, Jesus. I still can't believe you miss
weight under BOMAC, dude. That's, like, that's
the part of Keyshawn's career that, like, really
gets me. Like, you train with, like, BOMAC where,
like, he ate the fridge in its entirety. You
have to deliberately try to miss weight with
this man in your camp. But what do I know? Moving
up, Carlos Adamas versus Ammo Williams. Adamas
is the WBC middleweight champ. And big ups to
Eddie Heard. Got his guy into a title fight,
even though he doesn't fucking deserve it. I
still don't mind the matchup. It's not bad. It's
not terrible. Middleweight is pretty desolate,
especially now that Janet Beck is... He's both
signed with top rank and in the limbo of his
failed drug test. It's not the worst fight in
the world to make at 160. And in the main, WBO
super lightweight champ, Teofimo Lopez takes
on Shakur Stevenson. Official, official predictions.
What do you guys got? I have Shakur in like a
10 -2 performance. Honestly. Like, Teofimo has
been, like, maybe he shows up, but... He has,
at this point, in recent memory, he's shown up,
like, once, because I don't really count Barbosa.
Do you really count Josh Taylor, too? Yeah, because
he showed up dialed in. Like, that was very clearly
Teofimo, like, making the full use of his athleticism,
but... We'll see. It's been six years since he
beat Lomachenko. Yeah, it's been almost six years
since he beat Lomachenko. And that was the last
time he looked truly elite, whereas Shakur, say
what you will, very consistent, very dialed in,
and is definitely the type of guy to be able
to embarrass Teofimo, considering Sandor dropped
him twice. Yeah, I'm inclined to agree. The Teofimo
that we get on fight night is anyone's guess.
He has turned in fantastic performances, followed
by shitty performances, followed by good, followed
by bad, followed by bad. It's a fucking crapshoot
with Teofimo. I do think genuinely. That Shakur,
the prospect of fighting Shakur, is going to
bring out the best of Teofimo? I still don't
think it's going to be enough. Shakur, Josh,
as you said, he turns it in perfectly every time.
And I don't see Teofimo presenting too many issues.
that Shakur hasn't had to deal with at this point.
I got to tell you something about this fight.
Honestly, I agree with both of you guys. I think
that Shakur is going to win. I don't think it's
going to be 10 -2. I feel like it's going to
be closer to like a 7 -5. Yeah, also like an
8 -4 type of... Yeah. Okay, okay. But, you know,
honestly, I agree with Leo that... I generally
think that TfM is going to give it his all because
if he loses, what the fuck is he going to do?
That's true. I don't know. He's a champion, but...
That's not all he has. That's true. I mean, yeah.
Without that, what does he have? Because he doesn't
have that Ryan or Devin Haney fight anymore.
Who's going to want to see him? He can't go up.
He's very undersized. He might be able to land
it, but I doubt it. If he wins the Shakur fight,
oh my god, he's elite. I would consider him back
in the top 10 pound for pound, honestly. It depends
on how he wins it because I will say there's
also question marks on Shakur's own capabilities
just on regards to strength of resume. Yes, absolutely.
Which is a major factor. So, like, I think Shakur
from the eye test has more than enough to do
it. But there is a chance that, like, this is
a genuine case where Shakur could just be exposed.
But how would he get exposed is my question.
The thing is that he's great. He's a fantastic
fighter at range. He's fantastic in the pocket.
The only place that I think Teal can get him
at is mid -range. And a mid -range... I feel
like that's the only spot that Shakur, not lacks
him, but is susceptible to getting hit in. You
know? But that's not how it's going to go. I
generally feel like if Tio's going to fight,
he's going to fight with power. He's going to
have to fight to knock him out. Where I understand
that Tio at 140, the 140 Tio against 140 guys,
he's kind of underpowered. He's got mediocre.
He's got mediocre SWAT. But Shakur is a smaller
guy. He's coming up from smaller weight classes.
He fought Oscar Valdez at 130. You know? I mean,
it's going to be a... It might be a hard fight
for Shakur, mainly based on the power. And I
was telling Leo about this before the pod. We've
seen how Shakur fights when there's a guy with
power. Edwin De Los Santos was a disgusting fight.
atrocious because Shakur didn't want to throw
because he didn't want to throw down with someone's
power. So if Teo has power, I doubt Shakur's
going to want to be close to mid -range with
him. One thing's for sure is you're not going
to see a Sabeda -type performance. That's for
sure. I think it might be closer to Edwin De
Los Santos. But I feel like Teo's elite enough
to where he can... he can be able to secure some
rounds off of activity. However, another thing
too with Teo is that, and this goes back to the
Jermaine Ortiz fight. A lot of people thought
he lost that fight because Jermaine Ortiz outboxed
him. I also think Jermaine Ortiz outboxed him,
but Jermaine Ortiz is not even close to the fighter
that Shakur is. Shakur can outbox anybody, in
my opinion. And if Lopez was getting outboxed
by Jermaine Ortiz, I think it's going to be a
rough night for him in the ring with Shakur.
But we'll see. Because, again, was Jermaine Ortiz's
fight best to him? Not really. So, we'll see.
It's a toss -up, honestly. I can't decide. It
comes down to, we had this problem a few years
ago. We had this problem with Adrian Broner,
where what version of Broner is going to show
up in the ring? Because we've seen Broner look
like an elite, elite talent. And we've seen him
show up like a fucking bag of shit. The irony
here is that the extremes are so much more. For
Teofimo, I feel like Broner, his lows were at
least somewhat consistent, but his highs definitely
aren't as high as Teofimo can go. It's so much
more extreme with how Teofimo can look. Bipolar
is a hell of a drug. Yeah, at least Broner, stylistically,
there was a very... how do you put it, like,
there was a sort of congruency stylistically.
It really just depended on how he'd engage with
the opponent, but within the confines of the
same style. Whereas, oh my god, Teofimo can really
just look so, like, he can look like he learned
how to walk yesterday. It's that, That uncertainty
is what makes me pick against Teofimo. He is,
when he's great, when he's good, when he's dialed
in, when he shows up, he's like an athletic fucking
freak. But I don't know if that's what we're
going to see on Saturday. I don't know if that's
what it's going to be. So, I don't know. I can't
pick him for that reason. Imagine Shakur gets
knocked out. Oh, my God. It all depends on how.
Like, if Shakur just looks incompetent and gets
knocked out, yeah, that's going to be him getting
exposed. If it's a tight fight down the stretch,
the Teofimo actually looks good in and edges
out, okay, it's two elite guys. Imagine if he
gets knocked down. That's how Tank's going to
get caught because he's going to come out of
hiding to post on Twitter to shit on Shakur.
And that's when I'm going to catch that. They're
going to send IceJai, Isopataya to go capture
Tank. And then boom. You have Tank captured.
Shakur loses. Racist media will be so happy.
Racism is back. Crazy. Anything more for ring
six? This is how woke dies in boxing. Teofimo
wins. That's another tip. Teofimo wins. Oh, my
God. Where the liquor at? Woke is dead, guys.
Yeah, that's crazy. I don't want... I want Shakur
to win just for that fucking video. I want Teofimo
to get dominated by a black man. Just for the
comments that two people said, he deserves that
shit. Oh, yeah. Send Shakur some bananas now,
bitch. Yeah. Fucking racist ass. Anything more
for Ring 6? Fuck you, Hitchens. You didn't show
up to fight Keyshawn. I'm just kidding. I all
respect you, Hitchens. Let's round out the weekend
with... Zufa on Paramount+. Why are we even talking
about it with how much we fucking hate it? At
the Meta Apex in Las Vegas, there are actually
some decent fights on here. Starting from the
bottom, moving up, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Jaleel Hackett, that's a name I recognize, fighting
Roberto Cruz. Hot Rod Kalachik is fighting Oleksandr
Vostik. Not terrible. Sergey Bohachuk is facing
Radza Butaev. Fun. If this is playing out...
How Zufa says. Their stuff is playing out. This
fight will be at middleweight. But. As we've
already seen. Zufa does not adhere. To their
own policies. I was going to say. This is two
154 guys. What the fuck. If the trend continues.
Then this should be at 154. Butaev. Was a. like
a fringe uh secondary title holder at 147 he
lost to stanley stanley onus i was like is it
cody crowley or stanley onus yeah yeah it was
stanley onus it was a it was a good fight and
it was a competitive fight so not the worst loss
you might say uh no not bad at all but Not bad
for him to be moving up. The thing is that he's
been inactive for, I think he's had one fight
in the last three years. So I'm expecting him
to get clobbered. Ukraine, clobbering Russia.
I'm here for it. And in what I feel is a personal
betrayal, Rayo Valenzuela. He's facing Diego
Torres. Someone said... Go on. What a weird career
from Ryo for the record. Like, it's the most...
Like, it's probably the, like, best 14 -3 record
I've seen in my life. For what it is. Yeah. Lost
three times, became a champion. Edwin De Los
Santos, GAR, and who's his third? Chris Colbert
robbery. The robbery with Chris Colbert. But
wait, that one doesn't count. The eradication
of Chris Colbert the next time around was more
than enough. Somebody in chat said, GAR bitched
Valenzuela so hard he left PBC to Zufa. Yeah,
probably. It was a pretty rough defeat. Still,
going to Zufa, dude. Come on. What do you mean,
bro? It's the best fighting the best. Yeah. Well,
yeah, Diego Torres, he's really fucking doing
it for me. Well, I got to give respect to Diego
Torres. He can do what GAR couldn't. And make
the same as an ICE agent doing it. He's getting
$200 a round, $50K in insurance. You guys ever
see that clip of that Ron Perlman interview where
he's like, they gave me $40 and a sandwich to
do the monologue for Fallout. He's making more
than most of these Zufa fighters make. Doing
that monologue in the 90s. As I understand it,
he elected for that. He asked for less. He didn't
care about the project when they called him for
the second one. He was like, there's a second
one? Yeah, I thought this was like a no -name
dud. Yeah, he was just doing a computer game
for the kids. Valenzuela's not doing a computer
game for the kids. He's selling out. He's selling
out. There's not even a sandwich included either.
God, no. He has to pay for craft services. But
yeah, that's Zufa. That'll be on Sunday, February
1st. That is not bad hangover boxing. I don't
have to actually dial in and pay attention. Because
these dudes are not... Leaving this ecosystem.
Anytime soon. So they're not going to be relevant.
Anytime soon. But there you go. What name are
we going to give this week? Last year we had
Ape Day. Remember? This year what are we going
to call it? No I can't say that. I was going
to add an R. Okay yeah. I can't say that though.
That's going to lose out on our remaining sponsors.
Commemorative YSL Poverty Day. Janet. Janet Beck.
Janet. Order Up Day. Janney. Janney. Janney Tatum.
Hey, you can't say that when we're both Jannies,
though, Leo. Yeah. Janet Beck Day. Day Jens?
31 flavors? Let's just do Ape Day 2. We can just
do Ape Day 2. Yeah, Ape Day. This is another
Ape Day. Yeah, another Ape Day. And this time
it's actually going to be with great fucking
fights. Last time was also great fights, but
this is even greater. Watch them all be terrible.
Just because we gave them the label Ape Day.
Oh, shit. That's true, because last Ape Day was...
Ooh, you're right, huh? Wasn't last Ape Day like
the ring one or... No. No, last Ape Day was Richard
Torres versus the Italian guy. And then it was
Janabek. And then it was Tim Zoo. Versus American
Dude. Yeah, Ape Day. This is better. Good Ape.
Not bad Ape. Good Ape. This is Caesar, not...
This is Caesar, not... not uh what the fucking
coba this is not coba week it's caesar week deep
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This is where I think we already did it. Ape
day. Ape day. I'm going to be with my new girlfriend.
I'm watching boxing on Ape Day. You're going
to be single by next podcast. Shit. Don't use
me like that, bro. You're going to be... I finally
got someone to watch this shit. I finally got
someone to watch fucking Zufo with me. You're
going to be single by next podcast, dude. I'm
sorry. Hey, hey, hey. I can't say her name, but
hey. Chick. Hey, lady. Hey, my lady. Hey, my
love. It's like those Kitchen Nightmares episodes
where they go like this. It really turned around
the restaurant and then you look it up and it
like tanked it. It closed before the episode
aired. Watch me be pissed I mentioned it on the
shit. Like, why the fuck you mentioned me on
a boxing podcast? I don't even like boxing. I
only watch it for you. And you got rid of the
ramen sponsor. Go fuck yourself. Oh, my God.
You're right, bro. No ramen sponsor. The Zufa.
You're fucked, buddy. Yeah. That's it. Nah, but
I'm going to call her D. Hey, D. I'm on here.
I don't want to call you out. Hey, guys. Say
hi to D. Put some respect in her name. Hello,
D. Hello, D. Hello, Comrade D. Please break up
with this man. Let him wallow in boxing discord
with the rest of us. Yeah, bro. Especially, like,
if we were watching Zufa, you can do better.
At least pro -box. Oh, no. I'm not having to
watch Zufa. Fuck that. I'm having to watch Kirk.
I actually got a quote here that is, I think,
pretty fun. This is from Flip Wilson. Whatever
the fuck kind of name that is. You can't expect
to hit the jackpot if you don't put a few nickels
in the machine. I feel that applies really well
to watching boxing cards. You're not going to
get those sweet, sweet knockouts. Or those, like,
12 -0 decisions. If you don't put the time in.
Um, holy shit, we've been running for a little
bit. Uh, that's it. That's gonna do it for this
edition of the Boxing B -Sides. We'll see you
on the other side of Ape Day. Ape Day. Ape Day
2.