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The B -Side and Boxing. B -Side shit. B -Side.

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B -Side. And the B -Side. You got a B -Side.

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The B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. The B

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-Side thing. This is the B -Sides Boxing Podcast.

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Oh shit. Here we go. Boxing fucking B -Sides.

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We're back baby. Joined by the one and only Saul.

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Welcome back, guys. Happy to be back. And Josh.

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What up? Oh, shit. We're going to extend an olive

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branch. It's been a minute since we've done this.

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UFC 324. It's going to be on January 24th. The

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shit is free on Paramount+. Well, free with a

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subscription. So, if you want to see Justin Gaethje

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vs. Patti Pimblitt, that's... Well, let me look

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at the rest of this card really quick and see

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what's up. Sean O'Malley versus Sonia Dong should

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be fun. Arnold Allen finally coming back. Versus

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John Silva. That's cool. Umar Nurmagomedov versus

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Davison Figueredo. That should be a good one

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too. But we'll be talking about that over on

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Ultimate F and Casuals. Wherever you're listening

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to this, you can find that as well. All right,

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into some news. Tyson Fury is officially unretired.

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He's targeting F .A. Ajagba, Tony Yoka, or Arslanbek

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Makhmudov, the latter being the most likely opponent.

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I don't know. Tony Yoka is the worst of the opponents.

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Yeah, I would take F .A. Ajagba over Tony Yoka.

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I never knew this was going to happen. Who could

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have called this? Who could have seen this coming?

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It's like when Floyd retired, guys. For the first

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time. But it was already, like, in the cards.

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Like, I think Turkey tipped it when he said he

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was going to do Tyson Fury versus AJ. Yeah. With

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having them fight one time before meeting each

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other at the end of the year. Hey, get ready

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for that doubleheader. Doubleheader where one

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of them loses. Fucking Tyson Fury loses to Tony

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Oka. Oh, my God. I would have to fly back to

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England to fucking laugh. Go on, son. Go on,

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my son. Go on, my son. AJ, we talked about the

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really difficult circumstances he faced. Saul,

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you and I did. His uncle says he's retired. Eddie

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Hearn says, don't believe it if you don't hear

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it from AJ himself. I'm not sure what to make

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of this. Sounds like he's still holding out.

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His uncle says a lot of things. All things considered,

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AJ, dude, take as much time as you need. You

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already got all the money in the world, man.

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Just leave it behind if you can't do it. Yeah,

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dude. That's a really horrific thing to experience.

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Yeah, man. Do what you got to do. Daniel Dubois.

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Yeah, of course. Daniel Dubois is trying to fight

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Fabio Wardley. Yeah, that's a crazy fight. That's

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going to be fun. I would love to watch that.

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Shanada thinks Dubois has a good chance of winning.

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I agree. Wardley's hella fragile. But he hits

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the triple seven every time. Yes. That's why

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we hate him. The house always wins. He's laying

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up. The house always wins. Yeah, I think Fabio

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Wardley, as much as I don't like it, I think

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Fabio Wardley wins. I'll be on Team Dubois, but

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I really think Fabio Wardley's going to take

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it. The look of the draw? You never know with

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three -time terms of charm. I don't know, man.

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Fabio Wardley always gets it by the skin of his

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teeth. Fuck. Someone's going to get knocked out

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in that fight. It's not going to be a decision.

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No, I don't think so. Wardley's fragile body.

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I don't even think it goes five rounds. But that's

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going to be on pay -per -view. I'm going to call

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that Ring 7. Oh, God. If they put that on pay

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-per -view, I'll... They put Parker versus Wardley

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on pay -per -view. This is a Queensborough...

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You're right. You're absolutely right. With a

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Tyson Fury co -main, maybe. I don't fucking know.

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Nah, that would... Dubois -Wardley would be on

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the undercard of Tyson Fury versus whoever the

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fuck. Makhmudov or some shit. Yeah, Makhmudov,

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probably. In big news for Central Asian boxing

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fans, Shojahan Ergachev will be fighting Baturzan

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Zhukambaev this May in Uzbekistan. I know the

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world's been clamoring for it. Oh, I've been

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clamoring for that. Me too. Dimitri Bivol. Is

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looking to come back. He will be facing his IBF

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mandatory Michael Eifert. I think of Riyadh season

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is going to be putting this on. Well. Someone

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else thought Eifert. I forgot who it was. It

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wasn't. Better be. It wasn't. I'm pretty sure

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it was. Townsmith. Anthony. Better be a bottom

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once. When he came back from a knee injury. Let

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me see. I'm not seeing it. The better view of

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not fighting? I don't think that's mandatory.

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I don't remember. I swear. No, it was Adam Danes.

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Never mind. John Pascal fought Eifert. Oh, Pascal.

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In Canada? That might be right. I'm acting like

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I remember that fight, which I don't even know.

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Yeah, it's a tough shout. Yeah. Well, hey. I

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for... You're going 12 rounds, buddy. Prepare

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to get decisioned. Get your cardio up, buddy.

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If you beat B -Bowl, you're great as of all time.

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Why should B -Bowl just be completely washed

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because of all the surgeries? That's true. Hey,

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you know what? What the fuck am I saying? You're

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100 % right. That's the question about this one

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is how has he recovered from his back surgery

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or whatever it was. Hey, he's Russian, man. What's

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up? And last bit, we'll be talking more about

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him in a moment, but... Dalton Smith, most likely

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to be facing Alberto Puello next. Yes. So that's

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fun. Oh boy. Into the recaps. Not a lot. Fucking

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Queensberry in Oberhausen, Germany. The interim

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WBC lightweight title, Hadier. Herrera beats

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Ricardo Nunez in eight. Stops him in eight. And

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Agit Caballel stops Damian Neba in three. Was

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this... I felt this was a little bit early. Neba

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was definitely on his way out the door. Oh, definitely

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early. Like, Neba was going to lose. Like, let's

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not... Let's not pretend otherwise. We're not

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kidding ourselves here. I agree. We're not saying

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robbery, but yeah. This might be what we talked

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about last week with Jack Reese. Talking about

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taking guys out if it's no longer competitive.

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Yeah, but the thing is that Javier was getting

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his ass rocked in that first round. What's the...

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What's the harm in letting it continue? Just

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for a little bit. Just for a little, just for

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a little, little bit. Not like, not like, let's

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see him die, but like, let's see if he has recovery

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powers or if he's actually just gone. I don't,

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I don't know if that, I'm struggling for words

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here because, Like, on the one hand, Damien Neva,

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like, come on. Who really cares? Oh, I know,

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but the fight was just so fun. Yeah, Caballel

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just whooping on him? No, the first round was

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also fun as hell, too. I don't know. It's heavyweight.

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Like, do you pull Fabio Wardley out in, like,

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the third round? Fuck no. By German standards,

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Fabio Wardley would have been stopped against

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Parker. Exactly. That's why I'm like, we should...

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It's heavyweight. These guys recover and as much

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as we... Again, that's why it's hard to have

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a consistent standard for what that can be. For

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what counts as a rightful stoppage per se. Caballel's

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the interim WBC champion. His only option really

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is Usyk. Who I don't expect. I really don't think

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Usyk takes it. Just because he doesn't have to.

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He really doesn't have to. Also consider he might

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fight Walder. Is that too? That goodbye fight?

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I don't know. Cabello could probably fight someone

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else in the Queensbury stable. Absolutely. If

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you wanted to, you could fight fucking Dubois.

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But that's risky. He could unify interim titles

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with Fabio Wardley. Yeah. Well. Oh, my God. Wait,

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doesn't Fabio have the full title? Yeah. Does

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he? Yeah, he got upgraded. It happened like a

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week after my article it happened. It was really

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funny. Yeah, we're all saying that Josh is right.

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He didn't do it. He did it. Oh shit, you're right.

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You didn't know that? I forgot because I'm just

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looking at BoxRec and Fabio Wardley still has

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interim on his. That was the funniest shit. Literally

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the day after it was actually horrifying. Joseph

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Parker was so close. Not much else going on on

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this German card. There were stoppages and stuff

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if you want to go check them out. Fresh promotions

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at the Barclays Center. in Brooklyn, New York.

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Let's get some stuff out of the way. Keith Colon

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stops Alberto Guevara in seven. Nestor Bravo,

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big knockout over Pedro Campa in two. And Javier

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Cintron, crazy, crazy. I don't keep track of

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round of the year or whatever. I don't keep track

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of it. But if I did, Javier Centro versus Victor

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Sandoval is an early contender. That was a wild,

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wild round. A lot of fun fights in this card.

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Yes. A lot of fun. A lot of action. The crowd

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was crazy. Shout out to the crowd. All fucking

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ten of them. Imagine a sold out crowd. Fuck.

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Emmanuel Rodriguez. Spoils the party. Gets a

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UD over Fernando Diaz. Congrats. Now, Subril

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Matias. Oh, fuck. This fight is AI. It didn't

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happen. Dalton Smith stops Subril Matias. It

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happened. To claim the WBC super lightweight

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title. Britain gained another champion. Yeah,

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Lin is somewhere. In hell. Celebrating. So, did

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we witness the end of Subaru Matias? Yes. Yes,

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we did. He's not coming back to top position.

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Because he got chin -checked there and he got

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up. Or he continued. But then he got just, oh,

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he got clobbered after that. It's like we watched

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the last of his chin reserve. Just disintegrate.

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Yeah. It was. He fought like an idiot, too. Like,

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it's not. Yeah. Well, he's never had the best

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defense, but. That was just pathetic. That was

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a pathetic display of defense. Yesterday was

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horrible. That was Puerto Rico. He got caught

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with three right hands, like, for the knockout.

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That was three straight right hands. That was

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crazy. I'm still speechless after last night,

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honestly. I was surprised. That is an early contender

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for an upset. Yeah, it would have been nice if

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it happened the week prior so I could put it

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on my list. Yeah. It would have been fucking

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nice, but whatever. Don Smith, he put on a great

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performance. Slugged. Yeah, he fucking out -aggroed

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Subaru Matias and knocked him out. You know?

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Did not see that. Of all the things that I expected

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Dalton Smith to do, that was not one of them.

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Yeah, Matias getting iced was not one. Yeah,

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that was crazy. I maybe expected a fucking decision

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win, maybe. You know, I raised that, but there

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was no way that... I was thinking Don Smith was

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going to knock out Matias. Did not see that.

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Holy shit. Holy shit. And again, Don Smith put

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on a great performance. Honestly, I'm not going

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to say he's fucking offensively the greatest

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in the division, but he showed me talent. A little

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bit of talent. You know? A decent amount of it.

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Enough. Enough. Yeah, enough. To where I think

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he'll beat someone like Oscar Duarte. He might

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beat someone like... Yeah. If they put him against

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Pitbull, maybe. Do I think he beats Teal? No.

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Do I think he beats GAR? No. Hitchens? Not at

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all. That's the easiest 10 -2 from Hitchens I've

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seen in my life. Yeah, but that would be pretty

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funny though, huh? If there was another of the

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three other champions, if there was one that

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I would want Dalton Smith to beat, it would be

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Hitchens. But, yeah, I don't see that happening.

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I mean, that's an easy unification fight for

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that, for matchroom. Yes. No, because Hitchens

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is having that whole drama about being a free

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agent, and the zone executives are not having

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it. Well. There's like a whole thing. That's

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some bullshit because Hitchens is not fucking

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popular enough to be a free agent. Oh, dude.

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Not even his whole family shows up to his fights,

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dude. Yeah. He's got a lot of moxie to be acting

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like he can wave his dick around. Like, dude,

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you stopped George Cambozos in front of 15 people

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in the UK. Like, grow up. Yeah. Well, he's got

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the mindset of Magnum Conum. But you don't got

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the capability to wear a Magnum collar. Interesting

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way to put it, but yeah. Very interesting. So

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like we said, like I mentioned, Alberto Pueos

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probably next, more likely than not. But looking

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down his list of opponents or in the rankings.

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Sandor Martin. Jesus. Arthur B. Yarslanov. Whoever

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the fuck that is. Lindofo Delgado. Fuck no. Pierce

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O 'Leary. I heard a bit about Pierce. Already

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he's tough. Where is he from? He's Irish. So

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that would be a good little scrap. UK versus

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Ireland. Yeah. I mean, Donald can go back to

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the country now and fucking sell it on Arena.

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Yeah. That's for sure. He's from Sheffield. Sheffield

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has, they put on good shows there. Yeah. I'm

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thinking Adam Azeem is going to come calling.

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I mean, that would be a great domestic fight.

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Probably sell a whole bunch of tickets, but...

00:19:09.710 --> 00:19:13.569
I don't know. I can't definitely say if Dolan

00:19:13.569 --> 00:19:17.670
wins. I can't say if Adam Z wins. I mean, to

00:19:17.670 --> 00:19:19.930
knock out Super Showman Matias, that's a statement.

00:19:20.630 --> 00:19:25.769
Yes. As pathetic as it ended up being, yes. I

00:19:25.769 --> 00:19:28.670
mean, come on. No, I know. It's definitely a

00:19:28.670 --> 00:19:30.809
statement. I'm just like, oh, my God. You fought

00:19:30.809 --> 00:19:35.179
like an idiot, dude. Yeah. No, he fought... He

00:19:35.179 --> 00:19:37.680
was like what Muhammad Ali said, what George

00:19:37.680 --> 00:19:41.119
Foreman was. Fucking like the mummy. Yeah, literally.

00:19:43.079 --> 00:19:46.019
Fucking kept walking forward. Kept taking punishment

00:19:46.019 --> 00:19:49.579
for no reason. And that's funny. Like right before

00:19:49.579 --> 00:19:51.359
Donald Smith got knocked out, my dad was saying,

00:19:51.400 --> 00:19:53.500
man, this white boy don't got no power. If he

00:19:53.500 --> 00:19:54.859
had power, he would have had him out by now.

00:19:55.359 --> 00:19:58.119
And then he rocked Matias. And my dad was going

00:19:58.119 --> 00:20:01.000
nuts. It was funny. Just give him a little time.

00:20:01.750 --> 00:20:04.150
Yeah, no, yeah. I mean, even I was surprised.

00:20:04.470 --> 00:20:06.990
I mean, from the opening bell, I was like, damn,

00:20:07.089 --> 00:20:10.390
Matias. It looked like Matias didn't really care.

00:20:10.950 --> 00:20:12.609
You know, like he was just going to, like, walk

00:20:12.609 --> 00:20:14.809
through Donald Smith just because. Honestly,

00:20:14.849 --> 00:20:16.869
give it three more rounds if he doesn't, like,

00:20:16.950 --> 00:20:21.109
fight that stupidly, and it does. I mean, yeah,

00:20:21.190 --> 00:20:24.470
I mean, he could have. He was also hurting Donald

00:20:24.470 --> 00:20:26.990
Smith. Yeah, he was landing really well. Yeah,

00:20:27.029 --> 00:20:28.349
he was landing really well, and he was hurting

00:20:28.349 --> 00:20:30.230
Don Smith. Yeah, you're 100 % right. You maybe

00:20:30.230 --> 00:20:31.609
give it a couple rounds, he might have Don Smith

00:20:31.609 --> 00:20:35.390
out. But holy shit, the way Don Smith got him

00:20:35.390 --> 00:20:36.970
out first, he beat him to the punch. Simple as

00:20:36.970 --> 00:20:39.250
that. You know, he beat him at his own game.

00:20:39.410 --> 00:20:42.849
I gotta give him props for that. Does he beat

00:20:42.849 --> 00:20:46.170
the other champions? I don't think so. No, not

00:20:46.170 --> 00:20:51.049
even 140. He beats, I think he beats a good amount

00:20:51.049 --> 00:20:54.309
of contenders at 140, though. Does he beat Puello?

00:20:56.140 --> 00:21:01.700
Because Pueo is like the textbook outboxer. Yeah.

00:21:02.619 --> 00:21:04.839
Depends on whose card it's under. If it's under

00:21:04.839 --> 00:21:07.640
a PBC card, yeah, Pueo's going to get it. But

00:21:07.640 --> 00:21:09.859
if it's under a bathroom card, yeah, they're

00:21:09.859 --> 00:21:14.559
going to give it to Don Smith. You think it's

00:21:14.559 --> 00:21:16.819
that close? Like that it comes down to judging?

00:21:18.160 --> 00:21:21.039
Yeah, I don't think it's going to end my knockout.

00:21:21.559 --> 00:21:25.359
I think Pueo's a little more... defensively minded.

00:21:26.980 --> 00:21:31.700
And Donald Smith's never really been 100 % a

00:21:31.700 --> 00:21:33.160
pressure fighter. I think he was just forced

00:21:33.160 --> 00:21:36.480
to fight fire with fire with Matias. Yeah, Pueo's

00:21:36.480 --> 00:21:39.380
not going to be a fucking moron and just leave

00:21:39.380 --> 00:21:40.519
his chin hanging out there. Yeah, that's the

00:21:40.519 --> 00:21:43.400
big one. Yeah, like Pueo was forced to be a pressure

00:21:43.400 --> 00:21:46.380
fighter with Matias. Same thing with Donald Smith.

00:21:47.359 --> 00:21:50.400
Except Donald Smith just did it better. You know,

00:21:50.420 --> 00:21:54.240
so we'll see. If he's going to outbox Donald

00:21:54.240 --> 00:21:55.799
Smith, he's going to win pretty easily. He'll

00:21:55.799 --> 00:21:57.440
get that title back. He'll go back to the PPC

00:21:57.440 --> 00:22:00.859
with that belt. And they might do unification.

00:22:03.440 --> 00:22:05.420
Never know. They could do unification with Hitchens.

00:22:07.019 --> 00:22:11.839
Who knows? Eddie Ayer knows. That's it. Hitchens

00:22:11.839 --> 00:22:19.339
has... He has a mandatory due. Right now in the

00:22:19.339 --> 00:22:23.619
rankings, it's Delgado. But... He's trying to

00:22:23.619 --> 00:22:25.420
get him to step aside to fight someone else.

00:22:27.160 --> 00:22:34.079
I think Oscar Duarte? I don't know. Am I misremembering?

00:22:34.839 --> 00:22:38.220
I think you're right. I know Hitchens is having

00:22:38.220 --> 00:22:40.819
some shit trying to get his mandatory to step

00:22:40.819 --> 00:22:45.240
aside. One thing I do know is that he's not going

00:22:45.240 --> 00:22:50.579
to fight fucking Keyshawn. Who, Dalton? Or Hitchens.

00:22:50.779 --> 00:22:56.980
No, Hitchens. Dawn won't either. I don't think.

00:22:59.000 --> 00:23:03.500
I don't see Keyshawn in there. Oh, yeah, he's

00:23:03.500 --> 00:23:09.880
not in the rankings yet. Yeah. No, but I gotta

00:23:09.880 --> 00:23:14.019
give Dawn my flowers. Yeah, no, that was... What

00:23:14.019 --> 00:23:17.220
a way to win your world title, at least. Yeah.

00:23:18.780 --> 00:23:23.180
Spoil the... Even his promoters. All 25 people

00:23:23.180 --> 00:23:28.160
that were there? No, the promoter. I grayscaled

00:23:28.160 --> 00:23:33.279
the promoter. Oh, yeah. He blew, like, many,

00:23:33.359 --> 00:23:40.619
many millions on the vast card that I don't think

00:23:40.619 --> 00:23:45.299
it's ever bombed. I think both ticket sales and

00:23:45.299 --> 00:23:49.869
pay -per -view sales. Although, it's going to

00:23:49.869 --> 00:23:53.269
be like, this guy's done. His career is over.

00:23:53.529 --> 00:23:57.690
Fresh Promotions is done. It's going to be rotten.

00:23:59.390 --> 00:24:02.390
It's gone. It's gone. It's never been more over.

00:24:04.450 --> 00:24:10.170
I'm sorry, man. I understand how it feels. Isaac

00:24:10.170 --> 00:24:13.150
Cruz is the interim champ. Dalton Smith versus

00:24:13.150 --> 00:24:18.859
Cruz. I mean, Is that really going to be the

00:24:18.859 --> 00:24:21.019
WBC interim? It's not happening, dude. Dalton

00:24:21.019 --> 00:24:25.039
beats Cruz. Most people beat Cruz. Yeah, I would

00:24:25.039 --> 00:24:29.319
agree. Yeah. Would be a high profile for Dalton,

00:24:29.319 --> 00:24:38.519
though. I think what people could be is. Well,

00:24:39.839 --> 00:24:43.779
anything more for fresh promotions? I'm sorry,

00:24:43.859 --> 00:24:48.640
Josh. You had to go through my film. I like Matias,

00:24:48.700 --> 00:24:54.140
but also I can now say he was never good. Something

00:24:54.140 --> 00:24:57.660
funny that Isaac said was never send a Puerto

00:24:57.660 --> 00:25:00.880
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Friday, January 23rd, the premiere of Zufa Boxing

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on Paramount+. At the UFC Apex in Las Vegas.

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Who the fuck is Zufa? Yeah. As of right now,

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the card has not been announced. The only fight

00:28:07.519 --> 00:28:10.700
I know of is Callum Walsh versus Carlos Ocampo.

00:28:12.859 --> 00:28:15.500
Which, decent fight for a guy like Callum Walsh.

00:28:15.799 --> 00:28:19.059
But, like, who really gives a shit about Callum

00:28:19.059 --> 00:28:24.019
Walsh? Callum Walsh's family? Yeah, I guess.

00:28:24.240 --> 00:28:28.519
Nah, not really. Does he even have a family?

00:28:28.519 --> 00:28:32.849
I don't know. Hey, go white boy, go white boy,

00:28:32.869 --> 00:28:41.529
go. That's more time than Zufa deserves. We're

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not protesting it, but we are protesting it at

00:28:43.609 --> 00:28:50.269
the same time. Saturday, January 24th. Matchroom

00:28:50.269 --> 00:28:56.569
at the Fontainebleau in Las Vegas. Who is on

00:28:56.569 --> 00:29:00.960
this? Omari Jones. So that's cool. He's facing

00:29:00.960 --> 00:29:12.380
Jerome Baxter. Interesting. I like the Khalil

00:29:12.380 --> 00:29:16.319
Coe fight in the co -main. Israel Madrimov is

00:29:16.319 --> 00:29:22.779
back versus Luis Salazar. It's a fight. Yeah.

00:29:23.519 --> 00:29:27.700
Finally, he's fighting. He's got a lot of...

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He's talented, so he should be... A little bit

00:29:30.369 --> 00:29:34.710
more busy. And yeah, Khalil Cobb versus Jesse

00:29:34.710 --> 00:29:43.329
Hart. That's one I'm actually happy to see. IBF

00:29:43.329 --> 00:29:47.950
lightweight champion Ray Morataya versus Andy

00:29:47.950 --> 00:29:55.049
Cruz. Does Ray have any hope here? No, I'm going

00:29:55.049 --> 00:29:57.230
to give him some hope. I'm going to give him

00:29:57.230 --> 00:29:59.759
some hope. Because you know what? I was thinking

00:29:59.759 --> 00:30:04.180
about it. If someone like Antonio Moran had,

00:30:04.299 --> 00:30:07.980
not Cruz on skates, but he hit him a couple times.

00:30:08.099 --> 00:30:11.279
He was landing on him. Huh? He was landing on

00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:15.539
him. Yeah, he was landing on him. And one thing

00:30:15.539 --> 00:30:18.200
about Morita is, I mean, he's got decent speed.

00:30:18.299 --> 00:30:21.880
He just doesn't throw much. But you never know.

00:30:21.920 --> 00:30:26.500
With Cruz, he might have to. He might show up.

00:30:26.559 --> 00:30:28.480
You never know. He's a champion now. You know

00:30:28.480 --> 00:30:29.960
how it changes after someone becomes a champion.

00:30:31.420 --> 00:30:32.900
But if it goes to decision, you guys already

00:30:32.900 --> 00:30:35.819
know what's going to happen. You know? Oh, yeah.

00:30:36.359 --> 00:30:40.140
Moritaya's a top -ranked guy. Yeah. Andy Cruz

00:30:40.140 --> 00:30:44.599
is the house fighter. House fighter. Cuban. Fucking

00:30:44.599 --> 00:30:50.400
amateur darling. You know? I don't think they're

00:30:50.400 --> 00:30:51.960
going to fucking give a decision to Moritaya.

00:30:52.900 --> 00:30:55.960
Well, come on. Let's go. Let's go. Let's... I'm

00:30:55.960 --> 00:30:57.599
going to hope that Moritaya wins because you

00:30:57.599 --> 00:31:02.779
know what? Andy Cruz, he's a cool guy, but...

00:31:02.779 --> 00:31:06.279
I want Andy Cruz to do good. It makes me feel...

00:31:06.279 --> 00:31:09.619
It's good. It's good when a guy like Andy Cruz

00:31:09.619 --> 00:31:13.259
does good. As much... I got to root for him.

00:31:13.319 --> 00:31:16.700
I think Andy Cruz is going to win, obviously.

00:31:17.180 --> 00:31:19.039
But that's why I'm rooting for Moritaya because

00:31:19.039 --> 00:31:22.140
to me, he's the underdog. He's a champion, but

00:31:22.140 --> 00:31:24.579
he is the underdog. He's also a Robert Garcia

00:31:24.579 --> 00:31:27.259
guy. Yeah, I mean, he's a Robert Garcia guy,

00:31:27.339 --> 00:31:29.140
so you never know. I mean, he might show out.

00:31:29.960 --> 00:31:34.119
I doubt it. But, I mean, you never know when

00:31:34.119 --> 00:31:36.700
strange things happen. Donald Smith could knock

00:31:36.700 --> 00:31:41.099
out Matias. You know? And then flex his EBU title

00:31:41.099 --> 00:31:45.539
afterwards. I mean, come on. I will be riding

00:31:45.539 --> 00:31:48.789
with Ray. I'm going to ride with Ray as well.

00:31:48.990 --> 00:31:51.170
I don't have a lot of hope, but I'm riding with

00:31:51.170 --> 00:31:54.950
him anyway. Exactly. Like I said last time we

00:31:54.950 --> 00:31:59.390
talked about this fight, Cruz is going to win,

00:31:59.430 --> 00:32:04.089
and if he doesn't win, he's a fraud. Simple as

00:32:04.089 --> 00:32:14.630
that. Yeah, I guess. Yeah, that's it for that

00:32:14.630 --> 00:32:23.150
card. Anything more for our previews? Not really.

00:32:23.250 --> 00:32:30.309
That's what I thought. What if Khalil loses?

00:32:31.049 --> 00:32:36.170
I don't know. He might. He's already lost once,

00:32:36.230 --> 00:32:39.450
I think. Yeah, he lost to Gallegos. He's fun

00:32:39.450 --> 00:32:46.259
to watch, but he's not special. Yeah. If that

00:32:46.259 --> 00:32:50.940
makes sense. 100%. It's weird, because as you

00:32:50.940 --> 00:32:52.859
guys were saying that, I'm thinking, Jesse Hart

00:32:52.859 --> 00:32:57.099
is a banana peel. Or he can be. He has been before.

00:32:57.539 --> 00:33:01.700
And Jesse Hart is pretty well past his best days.

00:33:03.440 --> 00:33:07.140
What was his best by Jesse Hart? Probably when

00:33:07.140 --> 00:33:13.519
he scored zero. Yes. I was there when that happened.

00:33:13.660 --> 00:33:22.880
It was pretty cool. Jesse Hart. It was Joe Smith

00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:30.299
that had a close one. And I was thinking Michael

00:33:30.299 --> 00:33:33.000
Seals was the guy who got destroyed by Leader

00:33:33.000 --> 00:33:37.380
Alvarez. Well, are you guys ready to do best

00:33:37.380 --> 00:33:42.279
of 2025? Yes, sir. All right. Let me do this.

00:33:44.720 --> 00:33:50.779
Let's fucking do it. Best of 2025. Where is my

00:33:50.779 --> 00:33:56.240
thing? Here we go. Okay. Starting off. Stoppage

00:33:56.240 --> 00:34:00.299
of the year. Saul, hit us with what you got here.

00:34:01.680 --> 00:34:07.900
I got two. I got two. I got Ryan Norman Jr. versus

00:34:07.900 --> 00:34:12.739
Sasaki. And then I got Justice Hooney versus

00:34:12.739 --> 00:34:19.289
Fabio Wardman. What? Oh, yeah, yeah, Fabio Wardley

00:34:19.289 --> 00:34:21.769
and Justice, I'm sorry. Yeah, I just said it

00:34:21.769 --> 00:34:23.070
the opposite way. Fabio Wardley. Yeah, I was

00:34:23.070 --> 00:34:24.869
going to say, like, when did Wardley get stopped?

00:34:25.110 --> 00:34:28.630
I would have been so happy. No, yeah. Add a teaser

00:34:28.630 --> 00:34:30.730
there. No, no, Fabio Wardley versus Justice Hooney.

00:34:30.909 --> 00:34:34.210
Just... Brian Norman Jr. had the better knockout,

00:34:34.269 --> 00:34:37.369
but Wardley versus Hooney set up him getting

00:34:37.369 --> 00:34:39.750
a title shot. And honestly, I thought it was

00:34:39.750 --> 00:34:42.230
funnier than fucking Wardley knocking out Parker.

00:34:43.469 --> 00:34:45.750
Did he actually knock that one out? Yeah, he

00:34:45.750 --> 00:34:53.150
actually knocked it the fuck out. Oh, shit. Mine,

00:34:53.429 --> 00:34:55.809
I had... For the first half of the year, I had

00:34:55.809 --> 00:34:59.789
Norman Sasaki as well. The second half of the

00:34:59.789 --> 00:35:05.190
year, I was stuck between two. Boots Ennis knocking

00:35:05.190 --> 00:35:09.369
out Uisma Lima and Usyk knocking out Dubois.

00:35:10.849 --> 00:35:16.389
My final pick... of the year for 2025 is Usyk

00:35:16.389 --> 00:35:21.570
knocking out Dubois. My pick... Actually, Usyk

00:35:21.570 --> 00:35:23.309
-Dubois was such a good one. That was just an

00:35:23.309 --> 00:35:29.590
ass -kicking. That one brought me joy. I had

00:35:29.590 --> 00:35:33.929
Norman Sasaki for most of the year. And then

00:35:33.929 --> 00:35:40.630
Frank Martin KO4 Rancis Barthelony ended up being

00:35:40.630 --> 00:35:45.519
my pick. That's up there. That's just so clean.

00:35:45.840 --> 00:35:48.900
Is that your overall? That was my final choice.

00:35:49.179 --> 00:35:57.519
It was so clean. Oh, my God. Seeing Rance's Barthelome

00:35:57.519 --> 00:36:04.699
get lain out like that. That was my favorite

00:36:04.699 --> 00:36:06.739
knockout of the year. Norman Sasaki is probably

00:36:06.739 --> 00:36:12.179
still the best. Favorite? Favorite's different.

00:36:13.619 --> 00:36:18.619
I gotta respect it. Josh, carry us into Masterclass.

00:36:19.940 --> 00:36:22.920
Masterclass of the year. Terrence Bud Crawford,

00:36:23.019 --> 00:36:32.719
UD12, Canelo. Just a very beautiful, well -fought

00:36:32.719 --> 00:36:36.860
fight against probably the best possible opponent

00:36:36.860 --> 00:36:42.889
in boxing today. Very, very easy pick on my end.

00:36:42.949 --> 00:36:45.150
What about you guys? Saul, where are you at?

00:36:45.309 --> 00:36:48.010
I got the same one. Exact same one for the exact

00:36:48.010 --> 00:36:50.150
same reason. Probably one of the most beautiful

00:36:50.150 --> 00:36:54.010
displays of skill in boxing history. Wasn't boring

00:36:54.010 --> 00:36:57.590
either. He put it on him. Oh, yeah. He beat Canelo

00:36:57.590 --> 00:37:00.610
at his own game. Fought him in the pocket. Beat

00:37:00.610 --> 00:37:03.130
the fuck out of him. Fought him at range. Beat

00:37:03.130 --> 00:37:07.250
the fuck out of him. For the first half of the

00:37:07.250 --> 00:37:12.050
year, I had Benavidez over Morel. Second half

00:37:12.050 --> 00:37:14.889
of the year, Bud over Canelo. And that's my final

00:37:14.889 --> 00:37:22.349
pick as well. Can't not be that. Yeah. Villain

00:37:22.349 --> 00:37:24.869
of the year. I'll start us off here. This non

00:37:24.869 --> 00:37:29.349
-fighting stuff. First half of the year, Tank.

00:37:29.949 --> 00:37:34.789
Second half is Howard Foster. That's a good one.

00:37:35.989 --> 00:37:41.230
But overall, my pick is Tank. I guess after reading

00:37:41.230 --> 00:37:45.829
the shit from the National Summit, I guess it's

00:37:45.829 --> 00:37:51.210
not that villainous. But still took a knee. He

00:37:51.210 --> 00:37:53.269
didn't know that shit. Yeah, I didn't know it

00:37:53.269 --> 00:37:56.050
at the time. I was saying Tank probably didn't

00:37:56.050 --> 00:38:00.389
know it either. Hell no, he didn't. Yeah. Josh,

00:38:00.510 --> 00:38:03.539
carry us here. Villain of the Year is Dana White

00:38:03.539 --> 00:38:07.139
for how he continues to attempt to destroy our

00:38:07.139 --> 00:38:15.480
sport for literally no reason. Yep. Like, the

00:38:15.480 --> 00:38:20.760
Ali Act, sorry, the Ali Reform Act and shit is

00:38:20.760 --> 00:38:26.920
just abhorrent and he should die. Saul, what

00:38:26.920 --> 00:38:30.769
do you have? Well, I got something similar. I

00:38:30.769 --> 00:38:35.469
was going to say Dana White's mom's uterus. Dana

00:38:35.469 --> 00:38:38.849
White's mom. My other one was California State

00:38:38.849 --> 00:38:43.989
Athletic Commission. Why? Why? It's because they

00:38:43.989 --> 00:38:47.090
legitimized the fucking... Oh, the Ali Act reform

00:38:47.090 --> 00:38:52.469
act. Yeah. That's right. That is... I mean, you

00:38:52.469 --> 00:38:57.170
could bring up the most bullshit stuff and they

00:38:57.170 --> 00:39:00.039
could just say no to it, but... Obviously, they

00:39:00.039 --> 00:39:03.400
see the money. They don't see what's going to

00:39:03.400 --> 00:39:05.440
happen to the fighters. They don't care about

00:39:05.440 --> 00:39:06.840
what's going to happen to the fighters. I take

00:39:06.840 --> 00:39:07.780
that back. They know what's going to happen to

00:39:07.780 --> 00:39:11.039
the fighters, but they don't care. Yeah, so fuck

00:39:11.039 --> 00:39:14.659
the California State Athletic Commission. Saul,

00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:18.559
carry us on. New face. Who do you got? I got

00:39:18.559 --> 00:39:22.840
Abdullah Mason. Still? He's been a face for a

00:39:22.840 --> 00:39:26.360
long time, but he's a champion now. He took up

00:39:26.360 --> 00:39:29.349
the mantle. for the WBO champion when Keyshawn

00:39:29.349 --> 00:39:33.110
lost that title. And I think he's carried himself

00:39:33.110 --> 00:39:37.929
well. He's made a lot of buzz. He's now the youngest

00:39:37.929 --> 00:39:39.809
champion in the sport, I believe, right now.

00:39:40.090 --> 00:39:43.869
Yes. So I think that he has a bright future ahead

00:39:43.869 --> 00:39:48.130
of him. And I think his fight with Noakes, fantastic.

00:39:48.909 --> 00:39:51.409
It was a, we're going to talk about it right

00:39:51.409 --> 00:39:53.150
now, but it is a contender for fight of the year.

00:39:54.510 --> 00:39:58.579
So I got to give it to Mason. He was also very

00:39:58.579 --> 00:40:02.500
active, so I think he's going to be headlining

00:40:02.500 --> 00:40:07.900
from now on. Josh, what do you got? Mason isn't

00:40:07.900 --> 00:40:10.179
a new face to me, I guess, but that's because

00:40:10.179 --> 00:40:14.659
I'm a hardcore. But I did pick Lester Martinez

00:40:14.659 --> 00:40:18.380
as my new, new face of the year. Broke onto the

00:40:18.380 --> 00:40:23.559
scene. Literally, he was supposed to get ran

00:40:23.559 --> 00:40:30.230
over by... By Mbili? Yeah, by Mbili, and just

00:40:30.230 --> 00:40:35.610
completely turned it around. And he's, like,

00:40:35.710 --> 00:40:39.090
he went from, ah, he's that guy off ProBox, to

00:40:39.090 --> 00:40:44.170
this is a serious guy. Very serious contender

00:40:44.170 --> 00:40:49.909
at 168. And that's, I think that lands him as

00:40:49.909 --> 00:40:54.570
the new face. Wait, was new face regarding, like...

00:40:54.760 --> 00:40:56.820
Someone with new popularity or like a new champion.

00:40:57.980 --> 00:41:02.199
Can be either. I presumed. Yeah, it could be

00:41:02.199 --> 00:41:04.900
a prospect. It could be somebody breaking out.

00:41:05.760 --> 00:41:10.320
Breaking out of the mold. If Norman won, I would

00:41:10.320 --> 00:41:11.980
have put Norman. But I can't ride that long.

00:41:13.019 --> 00:41:15.380
The first half of the year, I had Terra Moana.

00:41:16.699 --> 00:41:21.719
Yeah. Second half, I had Tomoya Tsuboi. I love

00:41:21.719 --> 00:41:25.980
that name. And I ended up the final pick being

00:41:25.980 --> 00:41:29.920
Terra Moana. Another year with four knockouts.

00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:32.500
He's doing exactly what he's supposed to be doing.

00:41:35.780 --> 00:41:39.820
Fighter of the year, I'll start. In the first

00:41:39.820 --> 00:41:44.019
half, I had Brian Norman and Abdullah Mason.

00:41:44.920 --> 00:41:49.500
Brian Norman aged like milk. And in the second

00:41:49.500 --> 00:41:53.500
half, I had Naoya Inoue and Bam. And my final

00:41:53.500 --> 00:41:58.199
pick is Bam Rodriguez. Saul, who do you got?

00:41:59.679 --> 00:42:04.699
I got Terrence Crawford. Yep. That's what I was

00:42:04.699 --> 00:42:08.099
going to say. He's a fighter of the past five

00:42:08.099 --> 00:42:13.500
years, maybe. I didn't pick him because he only

00:42:13.500 --> 00:42:16.920
fought once in the year. Yeah, but the one win

00:42:16.920 --> 00:42:20.340
is so... It's a generational win, I fear. Yeah,

00:42:20.519 --> 00:42:24.679
you're probably right. Like, I had Crawford,

00:42:24.800 --> 00:42:27.760
and it's just so, like, the win itself, just

00:42:27.760 --> 00:42:30.980
on paper, not, like, coping or making excuses

00:42:30.980 --> 00:42:34.059
or whatever. It's just, that is the monumental

00:42:34.059 --> 00:42:39.280
win over the face of the sport. I have, I know,

00:42:39.400 --> 00:42:41.179
in a way, as an honorable mention, just because

00:42:41.179 --> 00:42:45.059
he beat Larry Holmes' record, or he may not be,

00:42:45.059 --> 00:42:47.619
but he matched it for defending his Ring Magazine

00:42:47.619 --> 00:42:50.780
title. Yeah, I don't believe in the Ring Magazine

00:42:50.780 --> 00:42:54.440
titles. I don't either. Especially not since

00:42:54.440 --> 00:42:57.860
fucking the Saudis bought it. I don't know when

00:42:57.860 --> 00:43:00.800
it was less legitimate, when Oscar owned it or

00:43:00.800 --> 00:43:06.139
when Turkey owned it. I still consider him defending,

00:43:06.300 --> 00:43:08.980
not just his Ring Magazine title, but his Undisputed

00:43:08.980 --> 00:43:11.500
titles four times. That's fair. I just fear it's

00:43:11.500 --> 00:43:14.320
woke nonsense. I just wanted to say Ring Magazine

00:43:14.320 --> 00:43:17.099
titles. I just fear the Ring Magazine is woke

00:43:17.099 --> 00:43:23.110
nonsense. Next category, ass -whooping of the

00:43:23.110 --> 00:43:26.829
year. Saul, start us off. Ass -whooping, a .k

00:43:26.829 --> 00:43:30.010
.a. beatdown, right? Yes. Beatdown to Pabamba

00:43:30.010 --> 00:43:33.570
versus Puma. Good one. One was a champion. One

00:43:33.570 --> 00:43:38.650
is a fucking generational talent. That was...

00:43:38.650 --> 00:43:42.630
It wasn't just a... He got him knocked out. He

00:43:42.630 --> 00:43:47.110
tore him apart in that fight. Bit by bit. So,

00:43:47.190 --> 00:43:50.800
yeah, I mean... These other guys have had better

00:43:50.800 --> 00:43:53.940
knockouts. Others, like Terrence Crawford, had

00:43:53.940 --> 00:43:56.219
a better masterclass, but this was a better beatdown,

00:43:56.280 --> 00:43:59.179
in my opinion. Also, it was more satisfying to

00:43:59.179 --> 00:44:02.699
see since, I mean, Puma was literally fucking

00:44:02.699 --> 00:44:07.239
acting up a bam. Who does that, you know? So

00:44:07.239 --> 00:44:11.239
it was pretty satisfying to see as well. Josh,

00:44:11.280 --> 00:44:15.980
who do you got? I had Boots, Danny Onus. That

00:44:15.980 --> 00:44:18.889
was like... That was, like, the big, like, I've

00:44:18.889 --> 00:44:25.030
been vindicated about boots. Like, making him

00:44:25.030 --> 00:44:27.489
quit in six rounds after just, like, pillar to

00:44:27.489 --> 00:44:35.349
post, that was the one for me. In the first half,

00:44:35.530 --> 00:44:39.110
I had boots standing on us as well. For the second

00:44:39.110 --> 00:44:42.489
half of the year, I landed on Usyk Dubois and

00:44:42.489 --> 00:44:46.849
also Bampuma. But my overall pick for the year

00:44:46.849 --> 00:44:51.889
is Usyk Dubois. I'm going to be honest. I forgot

00:44:51.889 --> 00:44:54.730
Boots Daniels was last year. Yeah, I had to check

00:44:54.730 --> 00:44:57.030
when I was making my list. It feels so long ago.

00:44:57.789 --> 00:45:01.969
No, it was April. But damn, that fight was the

00:45:01.969 --> 00:45:09.630
moment for Boots fans. Yeah. Your guy has finally

00:45:09.630 --> 00:45:11.989
come to fruition, and he's won a world title

00:45:11.989 --> 00:45:16.389
before Virgil Ortiz, which is a rite of passage

00:45:16.389 --> 00:45:19.449
for any good fighter. We're not talking about

00:45:19.449 --> 00:45:23.750
that. Literally stole Virgil's chain after Virgil

00:45:23.750 --> 00:45:27.130
couldn't make weight for Stanionis. No, no, no.

00:45:27.150 --> 00:45:30.750
We ain't talking about that right now. Comeback

00:45:30.750 --> 00:45:34.329
of the year. This could be career comeback or,

00:45:34.429 --> 00:45:37.710
like, in -fight comeback. Sol, start us off.

00:45:40.070 --> 00:45:45.489
As much as it pains me to say this, career comeback

00:45:45.489 --> 00:45:47.530
of the year has got to be Devin Haney. Yeah.

00:45:47.590 --> 00:45:49.690
Oh, fuck. We have the same picks, dude. Should

00:45:49.690 --> 00:45:52.170
not have picked that one, too. We all know why.

00:45:52.530 --> 00:45:55.929
Yeah, of course. I'm pretty sure, Leo, what's

00:45:55.929 --> 00:46:02.190
yours? I have a few. You have a few? Yeah. I'll

00:46:02.190 --> 00:46:04.050
tell you this about Devin. Devin Haney, that.

00:46:04.780 --> 00:46:08.079
He fought Jose Ramirez. Looked to be that he

00:46:08.079 --> 00:46:09.960
was coming out worse. I think most people saw

00:46:09.960 --> 00:46:14.780
that he had something missing, you know? Brian

00:46:14.780 --> 00:46:17.539
Norman Jr. was arguably his toughest fight of

00:46:17.539 --> 00:46:22.000
his career on paper. Makes it look fucking easy.

00:46:22.760 --> 00:46:26.099
Turns out Brian Norman Jr. wasn't good, but that's

00:46:26.099 --> 00:46:29.880
my joke take. That's my joke take. Either way,

00:46:29.960 --> 00:46:32.260
either way. People thought, including myself,

00:46:32.380 --> 00:46:34.030
that Haney was going to... Fucking get knocked

00:46:34.030 --> 00:46:37.929
out. He was fried. Yeah. And you know what? I

00:46:37.929 --> 00:46:39.389
got to give to Devin Haney. I got to give him

00:46:39.389 --> 00:46:41.690
his flowers. He made it look easy. He knocked.

00:46:41.869 --> 00:46:43.570
Not only did he beat Brian Norman Jr., he knocked

00:46:43.570 --> 00:46:46.289
him down on the ground. Big time. And then hugged

00:46:46.289 --> 00:46:49.210
him for the rest of the fight. But at the end

00:46:49.210 --> 00:46:52.809
of the day, that don't matter. That was a career

00:46:52.809 --> 00:46:56.110
-defining win for Devin Haney. And I got to give

00:46:56.110 --> 00:46:59.550
it to him. So there you go. All I'm going to

00:46:59.550 --> 00:47:02.469
say about that. All right. My first half of the

00:47:02.469 --> 00:47:06.289
year, I had Jesus Ramos. In the first half, he

00:47:06.289 --> 00:47:08.570
had two big knockouts after coming off of the

00:47:08.570 --> 00:47:12.469
Erickson -Lubin robbery. For the second half

00:47:12.469 --> 00:47:16.369
of the year, I picked Jack Catterall. True, Jaron

00:47:16.369 --> 00:47:21.809
Catterall. Yeah, Bozy really did some magic with

00:47:21.809 --> 00:47:26.170
Catterall. So that was good to see. My final

00:47:26.170 --> 00:47:31.559
pick, I stuck with Jesus Ramos. Comeback of the

00:47:31.559 --> 00:47:34.679
in -fight comeback was Wardley knocking out Justice

00:47:34.679 --> 00:47:37.500
Huni. Because he was getting his ass pieced apart

00:47:37.500 --> 00:47:43.119
for 11 rounds. Oh yeah, that was crazy. We were

00:47:43.119 --> 00:47:48.420
almost rid of Wardley, dude. Twice. Don't remind

00:47:48.420 --> 00:47:52.739
me of the second time. Josh, you had Devin Haney?

00:47:53.539 --> 00:47:55.760
I had Devin Haney. That was just like, he went

00:47:55.760 --> 00:47:58.760
literally from like... this guy is on his way

00:47:58.760 --> 00:48:04.360
out to like, oh, oh, he's still around. Yeah,

00:48:04.460 --> 00:48:06.739
it was mostly disappointment, but respect to

00:48:06.739 --> 00:48:08.639
A &E for just turning it all the way around.

00:48:12.340 --> 00:48:15.340
Upset of the year, I'll start. For the first

00:48:15.340 --> 00:48:18.099
half of the year, I had Roach beating Tank. I

00:48:18.099 --> 00:48:21.119
don't give a shit what the hell, that they didn't

00:48:21.119 --> 00:48:24.980
count the knee. I refuse to accept that as not

00:48:24.980 --> 00:48:30.409
being a knockdown. Roach won the fight. Second

00:48:30.409 --> 00:48:35.510
half. Abbas Baru beating Yohannes Taez. He went

00:48:35.510 --> 00:48:40.030
into MVP territory and he beat their fighter

00:48:40.030 --> 00:48:46.929
to claim a title. But I'm landing on Roach beating

00:48:46.929 --> 00:48:51.050
Tank. That's my... I will stand by that. That's

00:48:51.050 --> 00:48:54.210
the hill I'm going to die on. Josh, who do you

00:48:54.210 --> 00:48:58.530
got? I have Roley Romero, UD12, Ryan Garcia.

00:49:00.590 --> 00:49:05.849
For obvious reasons. Jesus Christ. While it was

00:49:05.849 --> 00:49:08.250
a huge choke by Ryan, like, Roley's actually

00:49:08.250 --> 00:49:14.130
terrible. So, that was an upset that upset me

00:49:14.130 --> 00:49:20.849
as well. Oh, yeah. Like, Ryan's off, like, literally

00:49:20.849 --> 00:49:23.309
beating Devin Haney pillar to post for 12 rounds

00:49:23.309 --> 00:49:26.190
and generally looking pretty competent. And,

00:49:26.250 --> 00:49:30.269
like, Roley just got stopped by Isak Cruz, got

00:49:30.269 --> 00:49:33.369
put on his ass, basically, by Barroso and bailed

00:49:33.369 --> 00:49:39.769
out. Tank annihilated him. And he comes in and,

00:49:39.849 --> 00:49:43.389
oh, my God, why did he look competent with Ryan?

00:49:47.340 --> 00:49:53.340
It was an upsetting upset. I think Roach Tank

00:49:53.340 --> 00:49:57.320
also qualifies as me being upset. Yes. Different

00:49:57.320 --> 00:50:03.260
reasons. And wrapping up upset, Saul, who do

00:50:03.260 --> 00:50:09.440
you got? I got Wardley versus Parker as my...

00:50:10.679 --> 00:50:13.820
Entire honorable mention being Roley Romero versus

00:50:13.820 --> 00:50:17.039
Ryan Garcia. Joseph Parker versus Fabio Wardley.

00:50:17.139 --> 00:50:21.340
That should not have happened. I think Joseph

00:50:21.340 --> 00:50:25.119
Parker, if he won that fight, he would be champion.

00:50:25.219 --> 00:50:27.400
That made me kind of sad, but at the end of the

00:50:27.400 --> 00:50:30.699
day, that sadness only lasted for a second because

00:50:30.699 --> 00:50:34.679
I was filled with laughter. Because how the fuck

00:50:34.679 --> 00:50:37.360
is Wardley champion again? Well, not again. How

00:50:37.360 --> 00:50:41.210
the fuck is Wardley champion? That's crazy. So

00:50:41.210 --> 00:50:44.389
I got to give it to Joseph Parker versus Valkyrie.

00:50:46.570 --> 00:50:52.030
Hero of the year. Josh, kick us off. Hero of

00:50:52.030 --> 00:50:54.769
the year. What did I put in? Pro box. Just generally

00:50:54.769 --> 00:51:00.070
pro box. High quality fight programming year

00:51:00.070 --> 00:51:04.130
in, year out. Never, never a bad pro box card.

00:51:04.210 --> 00:51:07.969
And it's free. And they still equitably pay their

00:51:07.969 --> 00:51:14.019
fighters too. Nothing bad to say about them.

00:51:15.019 --> 00:51:20.000
Saul, who do you got? I got Oscar Lila Hoya for

00:51:20.000 --> 00:51:27.039
Clapback Thursday. That's crazy. I got Anthony

00:51:27.039 --> 00:51:29.739
Joshua. We're not going to pick Paul. That's

00:51:29.739 --> 00:51:34.199
in -fight, though. Yeah. Did you read the prompt?

00:51:34.320 --> 00:51:37.119
It said non -fight stuff. Non -fighting behaviors

00:51:37.119 --> 00:51:43.239
or actions. Yeah, you're right, huh? This fucking

00:51:43.239 --> 00:51:49.400
guy, dude. Embarrassing. I made this like immediately

00:51:49.400 --> 00:51:51.059
after that fight, though. I'm just like, you

00:51:51.059 --> 00:51:54.340
know. So I ignored that part. Clapback Thursday

00:51:54.340 --> 00:51:56.639
is not a bad pick. Clapback Thursday is a good

00:51:56.639 --> 00:51:59.019
one. No, here's going to be Terrence Carver for

00:51:59.019 --> 00:52:03.099
letting free the slavery that was 168 pounds.

00:52:04.659 --> 00:52:07.019
That's true. Well, that's still in fight for

00:52:07.019 --> 00:52:12.559
beating well no because the alcoholic yeah true

00:52:12.559 --> 00:52:16.019
by retiring yeah you could just held on to those

00:52:16.019 --> 00:52:20.340
titles you didn't so that's that's pretty fucking

00:52:20.340 --> 00:52:23.380
awesome yeah that was my pick too for the exact

00:52:23.380 --> 00:52:25.579
same reason he could have just sat on it and

00:52:25.579 --> 00:52:27.820
i don't know what i want to do maybe i'll fight

00:52:27.820 --> 00:52:29.980
again who knows i don't know who are the who

00:52:29.980 --> 00:52:32.699
are the contenders right now but nope he just

00:52:32.699 --> 00:52:37.599
said i i beat canelo i did it i'm done You guys

00:52:37.599 --> 00:52:44.579
have fun. Peace. Yeah. Fair enough. My first

00:52:44.579 --> 00:52:46.780
half of the year, I had Al Heyman for taking

00:52:46.780 --> 00:52:50.659
care of Pritchard Colon and his family. That's

00:52:50.659 --> 00:52:55.340
a good show. Yeah. That broke at the end of 2024.

00:52:55.780 --> 00:52:59.659
When I looked into it, it happened just at the

00:52:59.659 --> 00:53:02.900
end of the year. We found out about it. Okay.

00:53:03.739 --> 00:53:06.769
I guess you could say... Since he's continuing

00:53:06.769 --> 00:53:14.389
to take care of them. But, yeah. Fight of the

00:53:14.389 --> 00:53:17.829
year. I'll start. First half, I had Bivel better

00:53:17.829 --> 00:53:23.230
be of two. For the second half, I had... I was

00:53:23.230 --> 00:53:26.630
torn between Lester Martinez versus Christian

00:53:26.630 --> 00:53:30.829
Mbili. And Subrail Matias versus Alberto Pueyo.

00:53:33.389 --> 00:53:38.449
My final pick. Overall for the year, Bevo better

00:53:38.449 --> 00:53:47.110
be of two. Bigger stage, more at stake, more

00:53:47.110 --> 00:53:52.050
gravity to the situation. Fair. Saul, who do

00:53:52.050 --> 00:53:58.670
you got? I got Will Matias, and then I got Morel

00:53:58.670 --> 00:54:04.639
Katiev, and then I got Mason Noakes. Mason Noakes

00:54:04.639 --> 00:54:11.099
is a great shout. I sounded for a while, I was

00:54:11.099 --> 00:54:12.179
like, you know what, that is fighter leader worthy.

00:54:12.960 --> 00:54:15.559
At the start of the year, I had Benavidez Morel.

00:54:18.440 --> 00:54:22.260
But I ended up settling with Lester Martinez,

00:54:22.880 --> 00:54:26.360
Christian Beely. Is that your overall pick for

00:54:26.360 --> 00:54:28.340
the year? That was my overall. Like, all you

00:54:28.340 --> 00:54:30.760
guys had, like, Noakes, Mason was a good shout,

00:54:30.880 --> 00:54:37.019
too. But just, like, I had fun during Mbili Martinez

00:54:37.019 --> 00:54:41.380
for the full, full 12 rounds. It was an excellent

00:54:41.380 --> 00:54:45.300
fight. Like, just, like, there wasn't, like,

00:54:45.320 --> 00:54:48.039
ebbs and flows that fights usually come with.

00:54:48.079 --> 00:54:51.179
Like, no. These guys just went balls to the wall

00:54:51.179 --> 00:54:56.460
for 12 rounds. Mbili was himself, and Martinez

00:54:56.460 --> 00:55:01.780
showed everyone why he's a serious player. Yeah,

00:55:01.860 --> 00:55:05.599
so I'm happy with that. Oh, man. That's all we

00:55:05.599 --> 00:55:08.400
got, though. One thing about learning about Lester

00:55:08.400 --> 00:55:10.260
Martinez, of course he's Guatemalan. Of course

00:55:10.260 --> 00:55:13.840
he's going to have Guatemalan fans. But I learned

00:55:13.840 --> 00:55:17.900
that that fight was really popular in Guatemala.

00:55:18.699 --> 00:55:23.199
More popular than Kendall LaCroft. I don't know

00:55:23.199 --> 00:55:26.000
why. I obviously don't know why. It's because

00:55:26.000 --> 00:55:28.420
he's Guatemalan. Obviously, Kendall is a worldwide

00:55:28.420 --> 00:55:31.300
name. That fight was more known in Guatemala

00:55:31.300 --> 00:55:36.059
than Canelo Crawford. Yeah. At least from the

00:55:36.059 --> 00:55:41.940
people I talked to. I was at a card here in Phoenix,

00:55:42.179 --> 00:55:44.800
and it was a matchroom card, and they had this

00:55:44.800 --> 00:55:53.139
Somali chick, something Ali. I didn't realize

00:55:53.139 --> 00:55:56.219
that there was such a large contingent of Somalians

00:55:56.219 --> 00:55:59.480
here in Phoenix, but they all came out for her

00:55:59.480 --> 00:56:02.099
fight. They were all waving flags and cheering

00:56:02.099 --> 00:56:04.079
and everything, and then once her fight ended,

00:56:04.139 --> 00:56:08.760
they pretty much left. I don't know. It might

00:56:08.760 --> 00:56:16.480
be a national identity thing. Hmm? I don't know.

00:56:17.219 --> 00:56:19.800
Thinking on it, I don't keep track of it, but...

00:56:20.030 --> 00:56:24.449
Do you have any events that stood out? Yeah,

00:56:24.469 --> 00:56:27.710
I actually included this in my picks. I just

00:56:27.710 --> 00:56:29.230
didn't. I was going to ask if you wanted to include

00:56:29.230 --> 00:56:33.469
this. I have Benavidez Morel. And then I have

00:56:33.469 --> 00:56:35.969
Benavidez Yard, that ring four. And then I got

00:56:35.969 --> 00:56:42.510
ring three. That's Edgar Berlanga versus Hamza

00:56:42.510 --> 00:56:45.230
Shabazz. Shakur versus Cepeda as well. I know

00:56:45.230 --> 00:56:48.900
it's not last year. I was so impressed by the

00:56:48.900 --> 00:56:52.380
crowd at the Caballel event this past weekend.

00:56:52.699 --> 00:56:58.599
Oh, yeah. Jesus Christ. Like, the crowd was basically,

00:56:58.679 --> 00:57:00.699
like, the noise was basically pouring out through

00:57:00.699 --> 00:57:05.099
my speakers. I love that. That was a crazy crowd.

00:57:05.239 --> 00:57:08.940
I hope, like, as much as I hate the German commission

00:57:08.940 --> 00:57:11.179
because the judges are terrible, the refs are

00:57:11.179 --> 00:57:13.260
terrible, the fighters are usually not great.

00:57:14.380 --> 00:57:17.239
fuck they come out like the presentation is always

00:57:17.239 --> 00:57:20.199
great and the fight and the fights are fun and

00:57:20.199 --> 00:57:24.960
the fans are just fantastic yeah similar situation

00:57:24.960 --> 00:57:28.760
to why lester martinez was was a bigger deal

00:57:28.760 --> 00:57:36.219
in guatemala than the main event my event the

00:57:36.219 --> 00:57:38.880
the event that stood out to me was eubank ben

00:57:38.880 --> 00:57:41.900
too just because i was there but it was really

00:57:41.900 --> 00:57:47.050
cool seeing like the The sound, the volume that

00:57:47.050 --> 00:57:51.730
the fans put up is, it's, I don't know, it's

00:57:51.730 --> 00:57:55.150
electrifying. Doing Sweet Caroline and hearing,

00:57:55.269 --> 00:58:01.030
there's only one such a soldier. It's fucking

00:58:01.030 --> 00:58:02.690
excellent. It was so much fun. There's only one

00:58:02.690 --> 00:58:08.809
Dave Allen, bro. It was so much fun. If you ever

00:58:08.809 --> 00:58:10.869
get the chance to go to a fight in the UK, I

00:58:10.869 --> 00:58:17.469
recommend it. Oh, shit. That's all the categories,

00:58:17.650 --> 00:58:21.510
though. Do we want to keep track of Round of

00:58:21.510 --> 00:58:26.650
the Year for 2026? Oh. Like, adding another category?

00:58:27.030 --> 00:58:30.090
Yeah, maybe, maybe. I'll keep track. Yeah, I

00:58:30.090 --> 00:58:33.949
might. What was I going to say? Actually, my

00:58:33.949 --> 00:58:37.210
2025 Round of the Year is that Lawrence Cole

00:58:37.210 --> 00:58:41.610
classic. The Disaster Class. Oh, that MVP one,

00:58:41.730 --> 00:58:45.539
yeah. That was good. One round, like, knock down,

00:58:45.559 --> 00:58:47.940
knock call, but then there were point deductions,

00:58:48.039 --> 00:58:53.139
and then he stopped the guy anyways. Just crazy.

00:58:53.199 --> 00:58:55.239
Yeah, that was madness. It was funny, though.

00:58:57.519 --> 00:59:02.300
Alright, so, wrapping up our 2025 picks, parting

00:59:02.300 --> 00:59:12.880
words, if you got any. Robots good. Pro box is

00:59:12.880 --> 00:59:16.460
always good. I hope this year turns out to be

00:59:16.460 --> 00:59:18.579
great. I hope it's better than last year. Last

00:59:18.579 --> 00:59:21.679
year seemed like it was going to be the best

00:59:21.679 --> 00:59:25.659
year of boxing we've had in obviously decades.

00:59:26.380 --> 00:59:29.400
I think it was pretty good. I think it was decent,

00:59:29.500 --> 00:59:32.320
but I think it was kind of a letdown in a sense.

00:59:34.539 --> 00:59:38.219
Is there anything specific that made you feel

00:59:38.219 --> 00:59:41.369
like it was a letdown? no not really honestly

00:59:41.369 --> 00:59:43.690
it was mainly because at the beginning of the

00:59:43.690 --> 00:59:46.750
year in from january to february it was that

00:59:46.750 --> 00:59:48.610
string that long string of fights that we had

00:59:48.610 --> 00:59:52.769
which it was you remember it was uh ray it went

00:59:52.769 --> 00:59:57.809
from pacheco versus uh fucking nelson and then

00:59:57.809 --> 01:00:02.429
benavides morel and then uh kishan the valentine's

01:00:02.429 --> 01:00:03.889
day massacre with kishan where he got his title

01:00:03.889 --> 01:00:09.780
and then um they had a fucking uh Cattrall versus

01:00:09.780 --> 01:00:14.000
Barboza. Better BB Bowl rematch. And then it

01:00:14.000 --> 01:00:18.340
ends in March with Tank versus Roach. You know?

01:00:19.760 --> 01:00:22.679
That was a long stream of fights that was like,

01:00:22.719 --> 01:00:26.699
damn. Good ass fucking months of boxing. And

01:00:26.699 --> 01:00:30.900
then for like the next, what, until July, June,

01:00:30.960 --> 01:00:34.900
July, it was dead. I mean, yeah, we had, you

01:00:34.900 --> 01:00:39.829
know, ring. Yeah, we had Eubank Ben, but, you

01:00:39.829 --> 01:00:46.530
know, it was more of a British, you know, more

01:00:46.530 --> 01:00:48.389
of a British fight in the middle of April. We

01:00:48.389 --> 01:00:51.429
had Boots Danny on us in April. That's it. Then

01:00:51.429 --> 01:00:56.489
in March or May, we had fucking the biggest letdown

01:00:56.489 --> 01:00:59.210
and one of the biggest letdowns in Cinco de Mayo

01:00:59.210 --> 01:01:04.670
history. And then, yeah, July was when it kind

01:01:04.670 --> 01:01:10.190
of started picking up again. Do you think DB3

01:01:10.190 --> 01:01:15.170
qualifies as a villain for beating up Nahir Albright?

01:01:16.909 --> 01:01:20.889
Yeah. Or trying to jump Nahir Albright? Yeah.

01:01:21.929 --> 01:01:27.309
Keyshawn definitely, yeah. But that's to involve

01:01:27.309 --> 01:01:29.110
in -fight stuff because that happened because

01:01:29.110 --> 01:01:32.989
of the fight. Yeah. I think what Dana White's

01:01:32.989 --> 01:01:34.989
doing to the sport is still more disruptive in

01:01:34.989 --> 01:01:38.360
regards to my pick. Yeah. I think it's more destructive

01:01:38.360 --> 01:01:42.880
on an individual level, but on a fucking systematic

01:01:42.880 --> 01:01:46.159
level, Dana White's fucking creaming on the sport.

01:01:48.000 --> 01:01:53.619
Yep. All right, well, there you go. That's 2025.

01:01:54.460 --> 01:01:59.099
We're all wrapped up. Nice and neat. We'll fucking

01:01:59.099 --> 01:02:02.940
see you on the other side of this, the premiere

01:02:02.940 --> 01:02:09.630
of Zufa Boxing. Nah, really. Raymour's high versus

01:02:09.630 --> 01:02:13.110
Andy Cruz. That's the real one. We'll see who

01:02:13.110 --> 01:02:15.570
takes that. Alright, that's it for this edition

01:02:15.570 --> 01:02:18.190
of Boxing B -Sides. See you on the other side.

01:02:19.289 --> 01:02:20.170
See you on the other side.
