WEBVTT 00:00:00.819 --> 00:00:04.200 The B -Side in boxing. B -Side shit. B -Side. 00:00:04.280 --> 00:00:06.820 B -Side. And the B -Side. You got a B -Side. 00:00:06.900 --> 00:00:10.400 The B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. The B 00:00:10.400 --> 00:00:13.779 -Side thing. This is the B -Sides Boxing Podcast. 00:00:19.059 --> 00:00:26.899 Oh shit. Alright, we ready to fucking do this 00:00:26.899 --> 00:00:35.460 thing? You ready to rock? Yep. All right. Fucking 00:00:35.460 --> 00:00:40.399 Boxing B -Sides. We're back in 2026. Joined by 00:00:40.399 --> 00:00:43.979 the one and only Saul. Hello, guys. What's up, 00:00:44.060 --> 00:00:45.679 what's up, what's up? Glad to see you guys in 00:00:45.679 --> 00:00:48.520 the new year. You guys can hear me. Back from 00:00:48.520 --> 00:00:56.469 hiatus. It's Josh. Yes, we are back. Oh, man, 00:00:56.590 --> 00:00:59.609 I saved this little bit of news. Obviously, this 00:00:59.609 --> 00:01:02.490 happened a while ago, but I wanted to give Josh 00:01:02.490 --> 00:01:06.209 a little bit of time to get something out on 00:01:06.209 --> 00:01:11.170 Crawford retiring, 42 -0, 31 stoppages, five 00:01:11.170 --> 00:01:13.769 -division champion, three -division undisputed. 00:01:15.769 --> 00:01:18.230 Retired the duck boots in Benavidez. You hate 00:01:18.230 --> 00:01:22.549 to see it. Duck Benavidez? You hate to see it. 00:01:29.140 --> 00:01:37.500 And Jake Paul. And Jake Paul. On a serious note, 00:01:37.879 --> 00:01:43.219 it's actually like, how good of a fighter do 00:01:43.219 --> 00:01:45.140 you have to be for that career to be a disappointment? 00:01:48.340 --> 00:01:51.640 How is it a disappointment? He could have fought 00:01:51.640 --> 00:01:55.510 more guys. He could have just fought more guys. 00:01:55.870 --> 00:01:59.150 Like, I'm gonna say, like, the top -ranked extension 00:01:59.150 --> 00:02:03.030 era, like, Jeff Horn until he fought Spence was 00:02:03.030 --> 00:02:08.229 not great. And that was his, like, absolute peak, 00:02:08.349 --> 00:02:10.949 too. Hey, he fought Kell Brook and he fought, 00:02:11.090 --> 00:02:16.069 uh... Sean Porter. Sean Porter. Okay, Sean Porter, 00:02:16.310 --> 00:02:18.650 fair enough, but, like, Kell Brook, Amir Khan, 00:02:19.009 --> 00:02:23.580 Mean Machine, Jeff Horn. The worst Benavidez. 00:02:25.560 --> 00:02:31.860 I think if he had just not signed the extension 00:02:31.860 --> 00:02:35.060 with top rank, he would have beaten Spence sooner 00:02:35.060 --> 00:02:39.699 and we would have gotten more out of him, which 00:02:39.699 --> 00:02:45.500 is he's good to watch in the ring. He was always 00:02:45.500 --> 00:02:49.800 a fun watch. Let me ask you this. I'm curious. 00:02:50.520 --> 00:02:52.099 Was there a possibility that he would have been 00:02:52.099 --> 00:02:56.340 signed by the PBC at that early on? Yeah. I mean, 00:02:56.360 --> 00:02:59.520 an American, like, all -action guy in the ring 00:02:59.520 --> 00:03:03.379 who is, like, the direct rival of your best, 00:03:03.520 --> 00:03:08.120 of one of your better guys. Did they ever send 00:03:08.120 --> 00:03:09.560 an offer out? I'm just curious if it's known 00:03:09.560 --> 00:03:11.099 that they sent an offer out. Well, he didn't 00:03:11.099 --> 00:03:13.340 even entertain, like, them sending an offer. 00:03:13.460 --> 00:03:16.460 He signed that extension with Top Rank at Lightspeed. 00:03:17.259 --> 00:03:21.680 He's like, I hate racism. sues his promoter for 00:03:21.680 --> 00:03:27.419 being racist, but how good is he as a fighter 00:03:27.419 --> 00:03:31.960 to have basically avoided stardom until the very 00:03:31.960 --> 00:03:37.340 end and still done it? So here's something interesting 00:03:37.340 --> 00:03:41.439 that I'm thinking about. If he had not re -signed 00:03:41.439 --> 00:03:44.819 with Top Rank, if he had signed with PBC instead, 00:03:45.080 --> 00:03:47.580 he would have been stripped of that WBO title. 00:03:48.189 --> 00:03:51.250 And we wouldn't have gotten an undisputed welterweight 00:03:51.250 --> 00:03:55.449 fight. That's true. It's true, but I feel like 00:03:55.449 --> 00:03:58.250 the profile of him fighting Spence ends up being 00:03:58.250 --> 00:04:02.110 the... Still bigger. Yeah, like he ends up moving. 00:04:02.229 --> 00:04:06.449 He probably fights Charlo. Like the... What was 00:04:06.449 --> 00:04:09.810 it? Jermall is the one at 154, right? Jermall. 00:04:10.550 --> 00:04:13.669 Jermall. He probably fights Jermall at Jermall's 00:04:13.669 --> 00:04:21.250 peak. He has a much stronger later half of his 00:04:21.250 --> 00:04:26.149 career. He probably still wins all those fights. 00:04:26.709 --> 00:04:29.370 It's just that we get to see more of him. I don't 00:04:29.370 --> 00:04:32.529 think it's a bad thing to have considered. We 00:04:32.529 --> 00:04:35.689 didn't see enough of him. Really. You don't think 00:04:35.689 --> 00:04:37.810 BBC would have put him with some tuna fights 00:04:37.810 --> 00:04:41.750 either? Yeah, but he still would have had the 00:04:41.750 --> 00:04:43.569 big fights. He would have had more big fights, 00:04:43.670 --> 00:04:45.790 and he would have had, like, instead of, like, 00:04:45.829 --> 00:04:49.670 Amir Khan, like, it would have been someone. 00:04:50.769 --> 00:04:52.490 His tune -up would have been, like, Danny Garcia. 00:04:53.129 --> 00:04:54.430 That's what I mean. Like, it would have been 00:04:54.430 --> 00:04:59.110 Danny Garcia. And at 154, it would have been, 00:04:59.110 --> 00:05:03.850 like, Lubin, or, like, it would have been, or 00:05:03.850 --> 00:05:05.750 even Castaño. He would have caught Castaño off 00:05:05.750 --> 00:05:11.160 a loss. So that's what I mean by, like, he could 00:05:11.160 --> 00:05:15.100 have accomplished more, and that's, like, he 00:05:15.100 --> 00:05:17.860 still accomplished more than most guys ever do. 00:05:18.680 --> 00:05:23.339 But... You think if he went to PBC, you think 00:05:23.339 --> 00:05:28.100 that would rival Mayweather? We would have seen 00:05:28.100 --> 00:05:30.279 enough of him against great opponents to be able 00:05:30.279 --> 00:05:33.319 to actually tell. I don't know how he'd perform, 00:05:33.500 --> 00:05:35.279 but we would have seen enough of him to tell. 00:05:36.160 --> 00:05:39.339 I feel like I've seen enough to tell. I don't... 00:05:39.339 --> 00:05:45.699 Because, like, skills -wise, he can definitely 00:05:45.699 --> 00:05:49.560 do it. It's just, like, how much do you count 00:05:49.560 --> 00:05:54.339 strength of resume? But you know what? We would 00:05:54.339 --> 00:05:56.339 have never gotten Mario Barrios as a WBC champion. 00:05:58.639 --> 00:06:00.779 Yeah, I think he would have fought Pacquiao, 00:06:00.819 --> 00:06:04.800 too. Pacquiao would have been in a wheelchair 00:06:04.800 --> 00:06:09.759 from... Crawford. Pacquiao was going to fight 00:06:09.759 --> 00:06:12.160 Spence. That's what I mean. That's what I mean. 00:06:12.199 --> 00:06:14.939 All these things. At that point in time, Crawford 00:06:14.939 --> 00:06:17.040 has already beaten Spence in this hypothetical 00:06:17.040 --> 00:06:24.279 timeline. Like, it's a whole... You think they 00:06:24.279 --> 00:06:25.920 would have made the Spence fight before or after 00:06:25.920 --> 00:06:27.480 his car accident? You think that was possible? 00:06:28.800 --> 00:06:32.819 Well, the car accident... I don't think it would 00:06:32.819 --> 00:06:35.100 have happened before the accident. No, it would 00:06:35.100 --> 00:06:43.160 have been after Porter. But it's still like it's 00:06:43.160 --> 00:06:46.180 not his eye falls out and the car accident and 00:06:46.180 --> 00:06:49.060 he's got a bunch of miles on the clock and he 00:06:49.060 --> 00:06:53.240 cleared out 147. It's just the car accident. 00:06:54.500 --> 00:06:59.259 Yeah. Which like he looked just fine after the 00:06:59.259 --> 00:07:04.019 car accident against Danny Garcia. Yeah. It was 00:07:04.019 --> 00:07:07.220 after his eye fell out that he looked A little 00:07:07.220 --> 00:07:12.680 diminished with Ugas. If Ugas had any killer 00:07:12.680 --> 00:07:15.040 instinct, he would have got him out. That's what 00:07:15.040 --> 00:07:20.420 I mean. Say what you will about Crawford, he's 00:07:20.420 --> 00:07:27.699 great, but I would have liked to have seen more 00:07:27.699 --> 00:07:31.819 of him against better opposition. Like I asked 00:07:31.819 --> 00:07:34.579 earlier, would you think that a run like that 00:07:34.579 --> 00:07:39.350 at PBC would have rivaled Mayweather's run? I 00:07:39.350 --> 00:07:41.389 don't think it would have beaten it. I don't 00:07:41.389 --> 00:07:44.490 think so. The longevity and the quality of opponent 00:07:44.490 --> 00:07:49.509 was just not there. Like Cotto, Marquez, De La 00:07:49.509 --> 00:07:52.670 Hoya, Pacquiao. I'll take those guys over. Yeah, 00:07:53.589 --> 00:07:58.329 Ricky Hatton at his peak too. It's crazy, but 00:07:58.329 --> 00:08:01.990 the thing is that I'm saying we would have gotten 00:08:01.990 --> 00:08:06.290 the C at least from an eye test. Because, like, 00:08:06.310 --> 00:08:08.490 I'm going to say, there's a big difference between 00:08:08.490 --> 00:08:11.230 Jermel Charlo and David Avenisi in terms of, 00:08:11.250 --> 00:08:17.389 like, owning them and, like, the eye test. I 00:08:17.389 --> 00:08:21.810 mean, honestly, you're 100 % right. I agree with 00:08:21.810 --> 00:08:24.009 you in the sense that if he got more fights, 00:08:24.129 --> 00:08:25.629 he probably would have been seen as even greater. 00:08:26.149 --> 00:08:28.990 Because that was Crawford's prime at that time. 00:08:29.269 --> 00:08:33.029 But you never know. I mean, he could have lost. 00:08:33.820 --> 00:08:38.139 No? Yeah, but the thing is that I respect stepping 00:08:38.139 --> 00:08:45.340 up and let's say he gets a fight at 160. He fights 00:08:45.340 --> 00:08:50.179 a guy at 160 and it's crazy and he loses. I respect 00:08:50.179 --> 00:08:53.340 it a lot more than what he actually ended up 00:08:53.340 --> 00:08:58.059 doing, which was garbage fights, Spence Canelo. 00:09:02.509 --> 00:09:05.970 Because even Madrimov is like, okay, sure, you 00:09:05.970 --> 00:09:10.549 fought a tight list at 154, but you also had 00:09:10.549 --> 00:09:14.750 active challengers at 147. I'm not saying that 00:09:14.750 --> 00:09:16.590 he avoided them. That's just the timing being 00:09:16.590 --> 00:09:20.730 wrong. I do know that Manny Pacquiao avoided 00:09:20.730 --> 00:09:24.110 Crawford for sure. I actually honestly doubt 00:09:24.110 --> 00:09:28.470 that. To be fair, Pacquiao was just not signing 00:09:28.470 --> 00:09:33.789 with Arum. If Pacquiao had won against Jeff Horn, 00:09:33.970 --> 00:09:37.889 we would have gotten Crawford Pacquiao. I don't 00:09:37.889 --> 00:09:42.129 know. I've seen the sources. I totally believe 00:09:42.129 --> 00:09:44.110 that he wanted nothing to do with them. Crawford 00:09:44.110 --> 00:09:49.690 is that good. But I'm going to say Crawford could 00:09:49.690 --> 00:09:52.090 have forced the issue by just becoming a star 00:09:52.090 --> 00:09:56.490 the way Spence did. We could have stolen Spence's 00:09:56.490 --> 00:10:02.500 chain. Yeah. So, again, fantastic career, but 00:10:02.500 --> 00:10:04.559 it could have been, like, genuinely legendary 00:10:04.559 --> 00:10:08.059 because he's... I deride Crawford a lot for his 00:10:08.059 --> 00:10:09.799 out -of -the -ring choices, but it's because 00:10:09.799 --> 00:10:12.720 he's so good and so fun in the ring that, like, 00:10:12.720 --> 00:10:17.139 all he did out of the ring was basically damage, 00:10:17.200 --> 00:10:21.240 like, how he entered the ring. You expect better, 00:10:21.360 --> 00:10:24.940 right? Yeah, like, I expect you not... Like, 00:10:24.940 --> 00:10:27.230 I expect you, like... You're a tight list at 00:10:27.230 --> 00:10:30.230 147. You go and you hunt out every other name 00:10:30.230 --> 00:10:36.330 instead of just waiting. And the thing is that 00:10:36.330 --> 00:10:38.190 just by accelerating the timeline, he probably 00:10:38.190 --> 00:10:41.330 ends up beating... He still beats Canelo. But 00:10:41.330 --> 00:10:43.570 it happens a couple years earlier. You don't 00:10:43.570 --> 00:10:46.070 make as many excuses. And now Crawford can actually 00:10:46.070 --> 00:10:51.950 capitalize on that by being the man. Well, ladies 00:10:51.950 --> 00:10:55.200 and gentlemen still listening to this rant. A 00:10:55.200 --> 00:10:59.220 good overview would be legendary fighter, great 00:10:59.220 --> 00:11:06.220 career. Like, his career is great. Like, how 00:11:06.220 --> 00:11:09.039 great do you have to be for a career where you're, 00:11:09.039 --> 00:11:14.000 what, three -time undisputed to be a disappointment? 00:11:16.419 --> 00:11:19.860 Not that. Fucking fighting David Avenisian. Like, 00:11:19.860 --> 00:11:24.929 how good do you have to be? to have wins against 00:11:24.929 --> 00:11:27.950 Errol Spence and Canelo and be a three -time 00:11:27.950 --> 00:11:35.129 undisputed guy, having started at 135, and, like, 00:11:35.169 --> 00:11:37.610 it's still considered, like, yeah, he could have 00:11:37.610 --> 00:11:44.250 done more. Like, it's not hate towards Crawford. 00:11:44.389 --> 00:11:49.110 It's just, like, this guy could have been, like, 00:11:49.269 --> 00:11:54.580 so much more. Because it's rare that we get an 00:11:54.580 --> 00:11:59.460 all -action guy who just has, like, skills for 00:11:59.460 --> 00:12:12.279 days. Happy retirement for Crawford. But I think 00:12:12.279 --> 00:12:15.000 Legacy, like, we're going to look back on this, 00:12:15.120 --> 00:12:18.500 and he's going to be a big, like, super talented, 00:12:18.679 --> 00:12:23.940 like... Super talented, but he can't scrape top 00:12:23.940 --> 00:12:26.379 10, top 20 discussions because of the strength 00:12:26.379 --> 00:12:31.240 of resume. I disagree with that, but... Yeah, 00:12:31.240 --> 00:12:34.759 me too. I would put him in the top 10, at least. 00:12:35.039 --> 00:12:43.620 It's a very dense all -time list. I feel like 00:12:43.620 --> 00:12:47.419 you need... Like, I'm going to say, like, three 00:12:47.419 --> 00:12:50.240 or four, like, my arbitrary number for, like, 00:12:50.279 --> 00:12:53.120 bona fide all -time greats to get into that top 00:12:53.120 --> 00:12:57.100 15, top 20. And I'm not saying, like, the 1940s 00:12:57.100 --> 00:12:59.659 guys who they, like, fight Hall of Famers over 00:12:59.659 --> 00:13:04.399 lunch. Because, like, those are very charitable 00:13:04.399 --> 00:13:06.799 inclusions. But I'm saying, like, guys like Hopkins 00:13:06.799 --> 00:13:09.840 who did it in, like, three separate decades at 00:13:09.840 --> 00:13:16.340 the least. I think it'd be Hopkins. Yes, but 00:13:16.340 --> 00:13:18.259 I'm saying in an all -time great way. Are we 00:13:18.259 --> 00:13:23.139 talking best or are we talking greatest? Depends. 00:13:23.940 --> 00:13:27.179 In greatest, Crawford doesn't scrape it. In best, 00:13:27.299 --> 00:13:30.759 absolutely. Put him up there. Greatest, I still 00:13:30.759 --> 00:13:32.399 think he scrapes it because of the three times 00:13:32.399 --> 00:13:34.840 undisputed. Jumping up three weight classes is 00:13:34.840 --> 00:13:38.480 no easy feat. It seems easy now after the fact, 00:13:38.600 --> 00:13:40.120 but you got to remember, we were all thinking 00:13:40.120 --> 00:13:42.320 that Canelo was going to win. That Crawford was 00:13:42.320 --> 00:13:44.570 nuts. I still think that's one of the greatest 00:13:44.570 --> 00:13:46.389 feats that's ever been, that's ever happened 00:13:46.389 --> 00:13:50.750 in the sport. It's like how people hold Roy up 00:13:50.750 --> 00:13:54.330 so high. Yeah. After you fucking fought John 00:13:54.330 --> 00:13:56.049 Ruiz. It's not like you fought Van Holyfield. 00:13:56.090 --> 00:13:59.409 You beat John Ruiz. John Ruiz beat Holyfield 00:13:59.409 --> 00:14:02.830 in the trilogy at the time, but that's besides 00:14:02.830 --> 00:14:06.070 the point. I don't know. I use Hopkins. It's 00:14:06.070 --> 00:14:07.710 like, there's, there's, there's gotta be like 00:14:07.710 --> 00:14:09.929 a, like Hopkins has a huge strength of resume 00:14:09.929 --> 00:14:13.279 in addition to like, the gimmick of being old 00:14:13.279 --> 00:14:18.200 and continually moving up. Hopkins is great because 00:14:18.200 --> 00:14:22.799 both of those. Yeah, it's just the strength. 00:14:22.860 --> 00:14:27.000 If he just stuck around, if his career was just 00:14:27.000 --> 00:14:32.000 timed differently, think of it. He'd still have 00:14:32.000 --> 00:14:35.460 Spence and Canelo, but you add Jermell, and you 00:14:35.460 --> 00:14:38.559 add a bunch of top 10 guys instead of top 30 00:14:38.559 --> 00:14:43.980 guys. Well, let me ask you this. I'm probably 00:14:43.980 --> 00:14:48.480 Pacquiao too. I'm curious. Where would you rate 00:14:48.480 --> 00:14:51.120 Roy Jones Jr. on this supposed list of yours? 00:14:51.159 --> 00:14:53.720 Out of curiosity. On like a greatness list or 00:14:53.720 --> 00:14:55.840 like a best list? Because if we're going best, 00:14:55.899 --> 00:15:00.740 like prime Roy Jones Jr. is one or two. Yeah, 00:15:00.759 --> 00:15:05.259 he beats most people. He's one or two. Like. 00:15:05.860 --> 00:15:09.019 Greatest. Yeah. But, like, greatest is such a 00:15:09.019 --> 00:15:11.639 hard one because, like, dude ranks, it's, like, 00:15:11.639 --> 00:15:15.100 such a combination of, like, greatest, like, 00:15:15.220 --> 00:15:17.860 your household name, you have a strength of resume, 00:15:18.120 --> 00:15:20.500 you have skills, like. Possibly your amateur 00:15:20.500 --> 00:15:24.840 career, too. Yeah. Ish. Like, I don't know, like. 00:15:24.919 --> 00:15:27.379 I don't know if I would count amateur career 00:15:27.379 --> 00:15:30.480 as criteria. I hope, like, Olympic gold medal, 00:15:30.600 --> 00:15:33.720 I guess, depending on. Yeah. Like, I'll say, 00:15:33.759 --> 00:15:39.039 like, the way I say Ali has all of those. Like 00:15:39.039 --> 00:15:41.940 when you think of like, like anywhere near the 00:15:41.940 --> 00:15:45.960 greatest, like kind of Ali level. Cause like 00:15:45.960 --> 00:15:50.820 he was the best first time. Like he was a cultural 00:15:50.820 --> 00:15:55.299 icon. He had the skills to in multiple and the 00:15:55.299 --> 00:15:58.240 longevity. Like it's a, it's a very subjective. 00:15:58.980 --> 00:16:01.519 It's more subjective than just saying best because 00:16:01.519 --> 00:16:08.830 best you go. like best you could just like you 00:16:08.830 --> 00:16:11.049 look at it with your eyes and you go this is 00:16:11.049 --> 00:16:16.870 this guy's the best but greatest is such a subjective 00:16:16.870 --> 00:16:20.870 thing but like like i definitely think crawford 00:16:20.870 --> 00:16:23.289 like especially because how dense boxing's history 00:16:23.289 --> 00:16:27.509 is yeah you gotta put people like johnny johnny 00:16:27.509 --> 00:16:29.769 sullivan sullivan up there like you gotta say 00:16:29.769 --> 00:16:31.470 yeah like i was gonna say like you gotta put 00:16:31.470 --> 00:16:34.070 sell you gotta put joe lewis there Even though 00:16:34.070 --> 00:16:36.789 you know in your heart Crawford beats his ass, 00:16:37.009 --> 00:16:44.269 this guy has probably the single most culturally 00:16:44.269 --> 00:16:48.629 significant win ever in his rematch with Max 00:16:48.629 --> 00:16:54.690 Schmeling. I was going to say Jack Johnson. Jack 00:16:54.690 --> 00:16:59.649 Johnson, too. That's what I mean. The history 00:16:59.649 --> 00:17:03.600 of boxing is so dense. that i think crawford 00:17:03.600 --> 00:17:06.339 not saying crawford is top 20 isn't like disrespectful 00:17:06.339 --> 00:17:10.799 but it's like his skills transcend whatever notoriety 00:17:10.799 --> 00:17:15.380 he may have lacked yeah i don't see it as disrespectful 00:17:15.380 --> 00:17:19.380 as like in a sport that has less of a history 00:17:19.380 --> 00:17:24.990 i agree somewhat All right, let's keep it rolling 00:17:24.990 --> 00:17:27.849 because we got another... We went a while there. 00:17:28.049 --> 00:17:29.890 Yeah, there's another piece that I want to spend 00:17:29.890 --> 00:17:33.150 a lot of time on. So really quick, we'll talk 00:17:33.150 --> 00:17:35.349 about them more in a second, but Inoue and Nakatani, 00:17:35.490 --> 00:17:39.829 they're aiming for May 2nd at the Tokyo Dome. 00:17:40.049 --> 00:17:46.769 So that's cool. Fucking Jaime Munguia passes 00:17:46.769 --> 00:17:50.710 on fighting Osles Iglesias for the IBF title. 00:17:52.210 --> 00:17:55.930 Like, you expected this because, like, I'm going 00:17:55.930 --> 00:17:58.250 to be real. I watched – I actually – I thought 00:17:58.250 --> 00:18:01.390 Osles was, like, one of those, like, Ajit Kabayal, 00:18:01.450 --> 00:18:03.630 like, me – like, I'm just trying to be different 00:18:03.630 --> 00:18:07.789 picks. I want to be the first on the train. Yeah, 00:18:07.789 --> 00:18:09.750 like, I just want to be different because if 00:18:09.750 --> 00:18:12.150 I'm wrong, I just say I try. Like, it was a risk, 00:18:12.210 --> 00:18:15.329 right? Yeah. But, like, no, this guy actually 00:18:15.329 --> 00:18:19.250 has – this guy is kind of crazy for 168. Mm -hmm. 00:18:19.789 --> 00:18:26.410 But he's also not... He won't attract enough 00:18:26.410 --> 00:18:30.930 numbers yet. You assume that Munguia, his chin's 00:18:30.930 --> 00:18:33.109 been cracked, his skills have always been limited. 00:18:35.529 --> 00:18:39.430 You want one more fight against someone huge. 00:18:41.849 --> 00:18:45.269 I personally think that if moved right, he can 00:18:45.269 --> 00:18:49.420 become... a decently known guy within the sport. 00:18:49.579 --> 00:18:52.799 Not maybe with the sports community in general, 00:18:52.940 --> 00:18:56.519 but within the sport. Just on skills and if he 00:18:56.519 --> 00:18:59.559 keeps fighting, absolutely. But I am going to 00:18:59.559 --> 00:19:03.440 say that if you're Munguia, you don't want to 00:19:03.440 --> 00:19:05.420 run into that right now because you're basically 00:19:05.420 --> 00:19:10.240 going to get your ass kicked in a Montreal casino 00:19:10.240 --> 00:19:18.900 for pennies. No, I think Iglesias is becoming 00:19:18.900 --> 00:19:23.339 one of Turkey's fucking pets. Oh, I know, but 00:19:23.339 --> 00:19:29.559 his last five fights have been in Quebec. You 00:19:29.559 --> 00:19:33.660 said that Iglesias is being moved by Turkey? 00:19:33.740 --> 00:19:40.740 How is that? No, I think I'm... Wasn't his last 00:19:40.740 --> 00:19:44.940 card fucking a... He beat Shishkin in Montreal. 00:19:45.539 --> 00:19:47.960 Okay, then never mind. I mixed it up. Never mind. 00:19:48.559 --> 00:19:50.720 No, he's been fighting under... He's been on 00:19:50.720 --> 00:19:54.740 Eye of the Tiger cards. Yeah. I figure, like, 00:19:54.740 --> 00:19:56.779 it's going to go to purse bids. Goldenboy isn't 00:19:56.779 --> 00:19:58.299 going to be able to afford it, so it's going 00:19:58.299 --> 00:20:01.299 to end up being Eye of the Tiger that picks it 00:20:01.299 --> 00:20:06.420 up. So... Well, I don't think he's not even a 00:20:06.420 --> 00:20:08.140 Goldenboy anymore. I think he's still a top rank. 00:20:08.500 --> 00:20:13.519 Yeah. So I'm saying, like, if you're Munguia, 00:20:13.599 --> 00:20:18.599 you avoid that fight. Like, you don't. Well, 00:20:18.619 --> 00:20:20.920 I mean, that's a high risk, pretty low reward. 00:20:21.140 --> 00:20:22.940 Low reward. Because the thing is that, like, 00:20:22.980 --> 00:20:25.240 Iglesias is in that spot where, like, if Munguia 00:20:25.240 --> 00:20:29.240 wins, oh, he's been exposed. Yeah. And if Iglesias 00:20:29.240 --> 00:20:32.680 wins, Munguia gets none of the benefit. He's 00:20:32.680 --> 00:20:37.680 just, especially, like, all, like, really what 00:20:37.680 --> 00:20:39.900 we remember isn't even the Canelo loss. We remember 00:20:39.900 --> 00:20:42.039 Saras putting him out to pasture and him having 00:20:42.039 --> 00:20:45.740 to use steroids to win. Exactly. A lackluster 00:20:45.740 --> 00:20:53.279 win at that. A very lackluster win. On the IBF 00:20:53.279 --> 00:20:58.500 rankings, Iglesias is first. The second slot 00:20:58.500 --> 00:21:02.920 is empty. Third is Canelo, who also ducked Iglesias. 00:21:03.019 --> 00:21:06.440 Fourth is Munguia. Canelo's not on the timeline. 00:21:08.359 --> 00:21:11.920 We don't even know if Canelo's coming back. They 00:21:11.920 --> 00:21:15.799 say he's back in training. Yeah, but for what? 00:21:16.160 --> 00:21:19.400 Circus show fights or real? Probably against 00:21:19.400 --> 00:21:22.700 Jake Paul. Nothing legit. That's what I mean. 00:21:23.680 --> 00:21:28.039 Iglesias is a legit guy, I fear. If Canelo comes 00:21:28.039 --> 00:21:29.859 back, it's going to be against someone like Shiraz. 00:21:30.099 --> 00:21:32.759 It's going to be a British guy. Shiraz is busy, 00:21:32.799 --> 00:21:38.119 though, with Pacheco. I mean, Canelo's saying 00:21:38.119 --> 00:21:39.960 he's going to come back in September. He's not 00:21:39.960 --> 00:21:45.400 going to come back in May. Yeah, we'll see what 00:21:45.400 --> 00:21:47.599 it's against, but the point is that Iglesias 00:21:47.599 --> 00:21:52.700 wants that title now because he's 28. You want 00:21:52.700 --> 00:21:55.140 to maximize your prime. Iglesias is going to 00:21:55.140 --> 00:21:56.559 get that title no matter what. He's going to 00:21:56.559 --> 00:21:59.099 get all the titles if he can. But you don't want 00:21:59.099 --> 00:22:01.539 to stall in making the fight. You want that title 00:22:01.539 --> 00:22:05.519 now, and he's in his prime. I mean, there's also 00:22:05.519 --> 00:22:06.920 William Skoll, but I don't think they fucking 00:22:06.920 --> 00:22:12.630 order that around. Skoll is at 10th. After Munguia 00:22:12.630 --> 00:22:13.829 is... I'm just going to go down the rankings. 00:22:14.109 --> 00:22:19.730 Yeah, is Shiraz, Troy Williamson, whatever. It's 00:22:19.730 --> 00:22:22.950 probably going to be Troy Williamson. Because 00:22:22.950 --> 00:22:25.430 the way you can do it, because Eye of the Tiger, 00:22:25.529 --> 00:22:28.410 they just take a cut. They don't really care 00:22:28.410 --> 00:22:30.309 that much about, like, you're my fighter, you're 00:22:30.309 --> 00:22:35.130 my fighter. They just keep taking a cut. So what 00:22:35.130 --> 00:22:38.869 would happen is... Send him over to the UK to 00:22:38.869 --> 00:22:41.049 fight Troy Williamson for a title on a match 00:22:41.049 --> 00:22:44.809 or wonder card of some kind or Saudi. Eddie signs 00:22:44.809 --> 00:22:52.170 him. And then from there, you carry on. That's 00:22:52.170 --> 00:22:54.029 the most likely option. I see that title fight 00:22:54.029 --> 00:22:56.390 happening on a real season card. Yeah, like it's 00:22:56.390 --> 00:22:58.230 going to be like a way like you take one of the 00:22:58.230 --> 00:23:00.069 British guys that Eddie has that are ranked. 00:23:01.869 --> 00:23:06.910 Like Troy Williamson right there. You. You put 00:23:06.910 --> 00:23:09.329 him up, Eddie signs him, either Tiger's pretty 00:23:09.329 --> 00:23:11.369 content to keep cashing checks slash keeping 00:23:11.369 --> 00:23:14.049 him busy in Quebec, especially if he has that 00:23:14.049 --> 00:23:18.289 world title. You go to one of the casinos in 00:23:18.289 --> 00:23:20.349 Quebec and go like, yeah, we have a world title 00:23:20.349 --> 00:23:24.589 fight. You'd be surprised how it fills in. When 00:23:24.589 --> 00:23:26.869 they had better be fighting Marcus Brown, it's 00:23:26.869 --> 00:23:32.809 pretty cool. I don't know. I'm pretty sure that... 00:23:34.420 --> 00:23:35.880 if Munguia's not going to fight him, it's got 00:23:35.880 --> 00:23:37.299 to be someone like Troy Williamson. Because Troy 00:23:37.299 --> 00:23:40.380 Williamson, that seems like the type of guy that 00:23:40.380 --> 00:23:44.500 will take that fight. Because, I mean, if it's 00:23:44.500 --> 00:23:46.359 no one else, it's going to be, you know, they're 00:23:46.359 --> 00:23:47.980 giving him a shot. Who else is going to give 00:23:47.980 --> 00:23:51.559 him a shot, you know? I did see a bit of news 00:23:51.559 --> 00:23:54.700 that Troy Williamson might be looking to defend 00:23:54.700 --> 00:23:59.859 his EBU title instead. Yeah, but if the IBF mandates 00:23:59.859 --> 00:24:02.450 it, he's going to... I don't see why he wouldn't 00:24:02.450 --> 00:24:06.349 take it, but... Like, he's sitting on the EBU 00:24:06.349 --> 00:24:09.269 belt until he gets a title shot, like what Avanesian 00:24:09.269 --> 00:24:18.349 did twice. They just, like... Because there's 00:24:18.349 --> 00:24:20.490 no reason, like, he's bad enough to lose to any 00:24:20.490 --> 00:24:26.809 of those guys at the European level. But, um... 00:24:26.809 --> 00:24:30.539 Who knows? Who knows? I hope he gets the fight 00:24:30.539 --> 00:24:34.640 soon. I don't want to waste much time, especially 00:24:34.640 --> 00:24:37.880 now that Crawford say what you will about him 00:24:37.880 --> 00:24:39.960 not faking any defenses. At least he's letting 00:24:39.960 --> 00:24:46.920 the division move. Let's keep it moving. He only 00:24:46.920 --> 00:24:50.299 fought once last year, I believe. And the year 00:24:50.299 --> 00:24:58.470 before that, I think he only fought twice. You 00:24:58.470 --> 00:24:59.930 also got to get some activity, too, because one 00:24:59.930 --> 00:25:05.450 fight a year at your prime age like that ain't 00:25:05.450 --> 00:25:08.410 going to work out. He had four fights in 2024 00:25:08.410 --> 00:25:12.609 and then one fight in 2025. Oh, he had four fights 00:25:12.609 --> 00:25:18.109 in 2024? Yes. Oh, okay. But only one fight last 00:25:18.109 --> 00:25:25.269 year, which is not good. Yeah. All right. So, 00:25:25.349 --> 00:25:29.980 yeah, Munguia. Quack, quack. So we came across 00:25:29.980 --> 00:25:34.559 this excellent write -up. It was about the National 00:25:34.559 --> 00:25:39.180 Combat Sports Summit. Yes, I did see this article. 00:25:39.460 --> 00:25:42.460 Man, we got some good stuff out of this. Jack 00:25:42.460 --> 00:25:46.500 Reese, apparently since he retired from refereeing. 00:25:46.839 --> 00:25:50.619 Fucking finally, by the way. He was kind of like 00:25:50.619 --> 00:25:54.480 the head or the keynote speaker or something 00:25:54.480 --> 00:25:59.069 for this. Let's see. Some of the key takeaways 00:25:59.069 --> 00:26:04.029 I got out of it from Jack Reese. His words. We 00:26:04.029 --> 00:26:07.650 got to get rid of the old thinking and revitalize 00:26:07.650 --> 00:26:12.630 the manuals. In the Tank Davis versus Lamont 00:26:12.630 --> 00:26:15.549 Roach fight, we couldn't find it written anywhere 00:26:15.549 --> 00:26:18.609 that when you take a knee voluntarily, it's a 00:26:18.609 --> 00:26:23.779 knockdown. It's always been the policy most everybody 00:26:23.779 --> 00:26:34.380 always used, but now it's in writing. Man, that 00:26:34.380 --> 00:26:37.500 kind of made me mad again about that fucking 00:26:37.500 --> 00:26:42.559 fight. Still gets under my skin. I watched Lamont 00:26:42.559 --> 00:26:44.859 Rocher's cruise last night. I was thinking about 00:26:44.859 --> 00:26:50.519 Lamont Rocher's plight. Thank you. I have a funny 00:26:50.519 --> 00:26:53.420 anecdote because I did end up being right that 00:26:53.420 --> 00:26:55.960 it was something weird that there was nothing 00:26:55.960 --> 00:27:02.299 in paper to handle it with. I ended up being 00:27:02.299 --> 00:27:05.119 proven right about inadequate training or standards 00:27:05.119 --> 00:27:08.579 for judging and refereeing that need to be updated. 00:27:08.720 --> 00:27:10.619 I ended up being proven right here. But I have 00:27:10.619 --> 00:27:13.819 a story, and it's lacrosse related, but it ends 00:27:13.819 --> 00:27:18.990 up being the same principle. So in lacrosse, 00:27:18.990 --> 00:27:21.970 there's regulations on how the stick is to be 00:27:21.970 --> 00:27:26.950 constructed and everything. Like stick length, 00:27:27.190 --> 00:27:29.930 how wide it has to be, how long the strings are, 00:27:29.970 --> 00:27:32.609 a lot of things. But it didn't have trick construction. 00:27:33.609 --> 00:27:36.809 That rule was created when at a national championship, 00:27:37.009 --> 00:27:40.089 a stick check was called on a midfielder who 00:27:40.089 --> 00:27:44.569 had a stick that the shaft was a paint roller. 00:27:45.119 --> 00:27:47.779 So like you click the button and it extends itself 00:27:47.779 --> 00:27:49.980 to play defense. And then you click the button 00:27:49.980 --> 00:27:53.380 again and it like folds back in to a short length 00:27:53.380 --> 00:27:57.500 one to play offense. And it was something like 00:27:57.500 --> 00:28:00.380 so weird and not in the rules that technically 00:28:00.380 --> 00:28:03.079 they had to let it fly for that national championships. 00:28:03.180 --> 00:28:05.940 But then very next year it was in paper trick 00:28:05.940 --> 00:28:10.500 instruction. And it's a very, very similar thing 00:28:10.500 --> 00:28:13.480 here. But it's something so fundamental that's 00:28:13.480 --> 00:28:15.839 been used for years. Yeah, it was the de facto 00:28:15.839 --> 00:28:22.079 rule. Yeah, but it wasn't a rule. So, like, that's 00:28:22.079 --> 00:28:25.119 the thing. So, like, you get a guy, like, especially 00:28:25.119 --> 00:28:26.680 because, like, say what you will about Steve 00:28:26.680 --> 00:28:28.940 Willis, he's always had pretty normal fights. 00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:32.859 Yeah. Like, when guys are taking knees, it's 00:28:32.859 --> 00:28:37.000 because they're being folded by body shots. It's 00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:39.539 like he hasn't had, like, a hard night's work. 00:28:39.900 --> 00:28:43.230 So, again, like... I'm glad it's in paper and 00:28:43.230 --> 00:28:45.650 I'm glad the sport is taking steps to consider 00:28:45.650 --> 00:28:49.630 this type of thing and scoring as well. It makes 00:28:49.630 --> 00:28:52.589 the sport better. Yeah. Because again, like it's 00:28:52.589 --> 00:28:55.509 not, oh, that'll never happen. It did happen. 00:28:58.829 --> 00:29:02.849 One, two other points from, or one point more 00:29:02.849 --> 00:29:06.609 from Jack Reese was his words. We sanction competitive 00:29:06.609 --> 00:29:09.349 bouts. When the bout is no longer competitive, 00:29:09.609 --> 00:29:12.509 we get the guy out of there. Yesterday's solutions 00:29:12.509 --> 00:29:15.869 don't solve today's problems. Don't confuse activity 00:29:15.869 --> 00:29:22.630 with effectiveness. So there looks like they're 00:29:22.630 --> 00:29:24.490 going to be pulling the plug a little bit quicker. 00:29:27.829 --> 00:29:33.599 Another one, the push, the summit. One of the 00:29:33.599 --> 00:29:37.480 key pieces was the push to eliminate 10 -10 rounds, 00:29:37.740 --> 00:29:42.339 even in ultra -competitive or if there's no action 00:29:42.339 --> 00:29:47.039 in the round. And Jack Reese called 10 -10 scoring 00:29:47.039 --> 00:29:51.000 unacceptable. The head of the California State 00:29:51.000 --> 00:29:54.519 Athletic Commission said, if you score 10 -10 00:29:54.519 --> 00:29:57.019 rounds, don't expect a call from us ever again. 00:29:57.660 --> 00:30:02.319 Good. Like... 10 -10 rounds is something that, 00:30:02.339 --> 00:30:06.339 like, if you're a teenager watching boxing and, 00:30:06.380 --> 00:30:07.900 like, you don't really know what's going on, 00:30:07.940 --> 00:30:12.299 you do. Not as a professional judge judging a 00:30:12.299 --> 00:30:16.220 world title fight. Or British judge. Yeah, they're 00:30:16.220 --> 00:30:19.660 notorious. That's, like, honestly, I interpreted 00:30:19.660 --> 00:30:24.160 that as Jack Rees, like, basically taking a jab 00:30:24.160 --> 00:30:28.200 at how they run things in the UK. Yeah, probably. 00:30:29.900 --> 00:30:36.200 Because it's pretty bad. So the move to ax 10 00:30:36.200 --> 00:30:39.220 -10 rounds, which is a good thing. Another thing 00:30:39.220 --> 00:30:44.400 was the Association of Boxing Commissions. They 00:30:44.400 --> 00:30:50.059 want judges to more liberally award 10 -8 rounds 00:30:50.059 --> 00:30:53.180 in cases when a fighter decisively wins a round. 00:30:54.410 --> 00:30:56.690 That was something I had mentioned some years 00:30:56.690 --> 00:31:00.349 ago when we were talking about shitty draws or 00:31:00.349 --> 00:31:04.329 bad scoring in general. Is that a possibility? 00:31:04.809 --> 00:31:07.869 And everyone that I had talked to at the time 00:31:07.869 --> 00:31:11.630 was pretty against it. But it looks like that's 00:31:11.630 --> 00:31:14.130 the direction they're going anyway. I don't know. 00:31:15.049 --> 00:31:19.210 Not sure how I feel about this one. It needs 00:31:19.210 --> 00:31:22.829 to be a very strict on -paper criteria because 00:31:22.829 --> 00:31:27.549 decisively wins a round is so vague. Right. Like, 00:31:27.609 --> 00:31:34.730 I think visibly hurt is a good one. Yeah, if 00:31:34.730 --> 00:31:37.609 they're buzzed. But, like, borderline, baseline 00:31:37.609 --> 00:31:40.549 criteria, right? Like, without, like, if you 00:31:40.549 --> 00:31:45.569 just want to put it in simple words, you go... 00:31:47.369 --> 00:31:52.450 You go visibly hurt. Spends whole round against 00:31:52.450 --> 00:31:58.309 ropes. Right? Or if they throw no punches and 00:31:58.309 --> 00:32:01.390 the other person does. Inactivity. See, that's 00:32:01.390 --> 00:32:04.650 what I mean. You need a table of officials to 00:32:04.650 --> 00:32:08.690 sit around and spitball scenarios in which it 00:32:08.690 --> 00:32:11.710 would apply. Because if you just get decisively 00:32:11.710 --> 00:32:14.279 one... you're going to end up with a... That's 00:32:14.279 --> 00:32:16.460 going to open for corruption. Yeah, exactly. 00:32:16.740 --> 00:32:18.259 It's going to backfire because you're going to 00:32:18.259 --> 00:32:20.759 say, oh, he decides... Like, literally, Cruz 00:32:20.759 --> 00:32:23.859 Roach. You can say, oh, Cruz decisively won that 00:32:23.859 --> 00:32:26.519 round because you didn't get an angle where you 00:32:26.519 --> 00:32:30.700 saw Roach catching and shooting. Mm -hmm. Right? 00:32:30.900 --> 00:32:33.059 And that ends up being a 10 -8 instead of, like, 00:32:33.059 --> 00:32:37.480 a 10 -9 that's shaded one way. 100 % agree. I 00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:39.339 mean, honestly, I agree with all you guys have 00:32:39.339 --> 00:32:41.880 taken. I honestly think there's a lot of... downsides 00:32:41.880 --> 00:32:46.740 a lot of uh cons versus pros i think uh one thing 00:32:46.740 --> 00:32:49.960 though that i think it can you know inspire is 00:32:49.960 --> 00:32:54.200 a little more activity in fights you know you 00:32:54.200 --> 00:32:55.960 like you know sometimes in the beginning a couple 00:32:55.960 --> 00:32:58.259 rounds where there's only one guy throwing another 00:32:58.259 --> 00:33:01.359 guy's kind of one of the examples that they used 00:33:01.359 --> 00:33:04.579 was uh the katie taylor amanda serrano rematch 00:33:04.579 --> 00:33:08.019 the first round specifically where Like, I think 00:33:08.019 --> 00:33:10.920 Katie Taylor landed the only punch of the round. 00:33:12.380 --> 00:33:15.339 So that was one of the examples they were using 00:33:15.339 --> 00:33:19.660 for, like, decisive 10 -8s or eliminating 10 00:33:19.660 --> 00:33:24.480 -10s. But you see right there, if the fighters 00:33:24.480 --> 00:33:26.440 knew that they could get a 10 -8 round and not 00:33:26.440 --> 00:33:29.779 just be one round behind, but be two, that could 00:33:29.779 --> 00:33:31.740 inspire more action in the fights, which, I mean, 00:33:31.779 --> 00:33:38.549 can't be good in a sense. Yeah, the 1010 thing, 00:33:38.690 --> 00:33:41.349 this is only for this national summit was for 00:33:41.349 --> 00:33:47.130 obviously for the for Americans. So I think Suleiman, 00:33:47.309 --> 00:33:51.309 the WBC guy, he was sponsored by the WBC. OK, 00:33:51.529 --> 00:33:54.029 so, yeah, he was there and he was saying he wants 00:33:54.029 --> 00:33:56.589 like these measures that they talked about to 00:33:56.589 --> 00:34:00.289 be taken to the UK as well. Instant replay and 00:34:00.289 --> 00:34:03.410 getting video replay the correct cards before 00:34:03.410 --> 00:34:05.930 they get officially submitted were some points 00:34:05.930 --> 00:34:10.690 I saw. Yes. That, like, they amend every issue 00:34:10.690 --> 00:34:14.570 I've brought up with judging in this sport. Being 00:34:14.570 --> 00:34:17.789 able to actually see the fight, not just from 00:34:17.789 --> 00:34:21.650 an obstructed angle, will fix so much judging. 00:34:21.710 --> 00:34:24.969 And the thing is that, like, when... Like, it 00:34:24.969 --> 00:34:27.349 will make corruption obvious when it occurs. 00:34:27.809 --> 00:34:31.409 Mm -hmm. It's not... Because, like, here we'll 00:34:31.409 --> 00:34:33.989 get bad cards, and then you'll just have to be 00:34:33.989 --> 00:34:39.739 like, well... If you see the fight with the ropes 00:34:39.739 --> 00:34:42.300 in the way, equipment in the way, cameramen in 00:34:42.300 --> 00:34:44.579 the way, from one angle, you can get it from 00:34:44.579 --> 00:34:51.000 there. It's not even like you're coping with 00:34:51.000 --> 00:34:56.119 a result. That's just how boxing is. Have you 00:34:56.119 --> 00:34:58.059 ever had ringside seats to any kind of fight? 00:34:59.280 --> 00:35:02.320 Even in amateurs. Even the amateurs, the judges 00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:05.039 are worse. In the amateurs, the judges have it 00:35:05.039 --> 00:35:08.099 even worse because there's moving parts right 00:35:08.099 --> 00:35:09.400 next to you because they've got to get fight, 00:35:09.639 --> 00:35:13.559 fight, fight, fight, fight done. And then some 00:35:13.559 --> 00:35:16.320 of them just referee the fight or are about to 00:35:16.320 --> 00:35:19.260 referee the next fight. They get tired. That 00:35:19.260 --> 00:35:25.099 happens in the UK. It's something that, at the 00:35:25.099 --> 00:35:28.199 very least, I'm not saying... Ostensibly, we 00:35:28.199 --> 00:35:30.760 need more training and more officials, but that's 00:35:30.760 --> 00:35:34.760 not going to happen, as in any sport. But these 00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:40.760 safeguards to basically improve how these officials 00:35:40.760 --> 00:35:44.920 conduct their business are so sorely needed because, 00:35:45.099 --> 00:35:51.719 again, we're in a digital age. WBC also mentioned 00:35:51.719 --> 00:35:54.519 that they're going to expand their use of the 00:35:54.519 --> 00:35:58.699 five -judge panel. I don't mind that because, 00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:03.699 again, the larger the sample size, the easier 00:36:03.699 --> 00:36:06.980 it is to get an accurate result. Right. Maybe 00:36:06.980 --> 00:36:09.239 you have one bad judge versus four good judges. 00:36:09.340 --> 00:36:12.380 Yeah. Like four judges overrule one bad judge. 00:36:12.900 --> 00:36:15.360 But different views of the fight, you get a more 00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:19.260 accurate picture. It's like even three judges 00:36:19.260 --> 00:36:21.179 with a good view of the fight versus two who 00:36:21.179 --> 00:36:24.619 may have not. It's harder to pay off five judges 00:36:24.619 --> 00:36:28.389 if we're going to go that route. that too and 00:36:28.389 --> 00:36:32.789 um like eventually like with the five judge system 00:36:32.789 --> 00:36:35.150 it's so awkward to fit them around the ring that 00:36:35.150 --> 00:36:38.010 they're like venues are going to have to give 00:36:38.010 --> 00:36:40.110 them what basically amounts to a little booth 00:36:40.110 --> 00:36:43.690 oh i've been i've been saying that shit for fucking 00:36:43.690 --> 00:36:47.230 years give at least one of them a booth off to 00:36:47.230 --> 00:36:50.360 the side yeah the thing is that like there's 00:36:50.360 --> 00:36:52.880 only four sides so you either put two on one 00:36:52.880 --> 00:36:55.960 side and now it's unbalanced or you have to do 00:36:55.960 --> 00:36:59.219 the booth idea and now that's what i mean like 00:36:59.219 --> 00:37:02.340 the summit was like super like i get to be like 00:37:02.340 --> 00:37:06.000 i told you so i told you so this is how this 00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:09.320 is how we fix it this is like but the the part 00:37:09.320 --> 00:37:12.860 that i'm not even i'm more content with the fact 00:37:12.860 --> 00:37:14.559 that they're fixing it rather than just them 00:37:14.559 --> 00:37:18.000 pointing out problems yeah if they pointed out 00:37:18.000 --> 00:37:19.619 the problems like you're aware of it you're not 00:37:19.619 --> 00:37:22.000 fixing it which is like sure i'm right but this 00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:26.099 is ridiculous it's worse if they were to just 00:37:26.099 --> 00:37:28.159 point it out and not do anything i would say 00:37:28.159 --> 00:37:31.619 it'd be worse exactly i could put a problem not 00:37:31.619 --> 00:37:36.280 fix it that's obvious exactly uh last bit uh 00:37:36.280 --> 00:37:39.440 this is uh one of like towards the end of the 00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:43.510 summit one of uh jack reese's Quotes, we've got 00:37:43.510 --> 00:37:46.050 to get them out of there when they are no longer 00:37:46.050 --> 00:37:49.650 competitive. Activity does not mean competitiveness. 00:37:50.010 --> 00:37:53.630 As a referee, as a doctor, you need to realize 00:37:53.630 --> 00:37:56.869 this long before the fans realize it. Fighters 00:37:56.869 --> 00:38:00.230 don't like that. And we know father trainers 00:38:00.230 --> 00:38:03.630 seem to never throw the towel in on their sons. 00:38:04.289 --> 00:38:07.070 And the sons never quit in front of their fathers. 00:38:07.429 --> 00:38:09.769 But we get to send the guy home to his family. 00:38:12.360 --> 00:38:16.500 I agree with this because, like, there's literally 00:38:16.500 --> 00:38:21.340 one exact clip that I will point out as this. 00:38:23.219 --> 00:38:26.739 It's the, if you ever watched the ringside footage 00:38:26.739 --> 00:38:31.880 of Gabe Rosado against Golovkin. Oh, Jesus. That's 00:38:31.880 --> 00:38:33.659 the fight where I'll point about, like, this 00:38:33.659 --> 00:38:36.340 is completely necessary. 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To December 27th, where we had the Knight 00:41:58.050 --> 00:42:03.329 of the Samurai, ring card number 5. Too quickly, 00:42:03.510 --> 00:42:07.570 Reito Tsutsumi knocks out Leobardo Quintana in 00:42:07.570 --> 00:42:14.030 4. It was a nice win. And Erickson Garcia spoils 00:42:14.030 --> 00:42:18.429 the all -Japanese win party by getting a close 00:42:18.429 --> 00:42:23.599 decision over Taiga Imanaga. Co -main event, 00:42:23.780 --> 00:42:26.940 Junto Nakatani gets a UD over Sebastian Hernandez 00:42:26.940 --> 00:42:32.119 in his debut at Super Bantamweight. The chatter 00:42:32.119 --> 00:42:34.519 online was a lot of people were disappointed 00:42:34.519 --> 00:42:40.239 with Nakatani. Did people just not know who Sebastian 00:42:40.239 --> 00:42:44.219 Hernandez was? I don't even think Nakatani knew 00:42:44.219 --> 00:42:47.880 who Sebastian Hernandez was, judging by the frustration 00:42:47.880 --> 00:42:51.059 that came on later. I don't blame him. He's one 00:42:51.059 --> 00:42:53.940 of those... It's basically the turkey curse at 00:42:53.940 --> 00:42:57.099 this point that one guy severely underperforms 00:42:57.099 --> 00:43:06.139 on the marination. At least one guy severely 00:43:06.139 --> 00:43:11.280 underperforms or loses. I'm glad he underperformed 00:43:11.280 --> 00:43:14.539 instead of losing, though. Yeah. That would have 00:43:14.539 --> 00:43:16.420 been dire. I think they would have done the fight 00:43:16.420 --> 00:43:19.960 anyway. They would have done it, but I am going 00:43:19.960 --> 00:43:22.739 to say it wasn't as much aura. Around Nakatani 00:43:22.739 --> 00:43:25.920 at that point. Hernandez, more than anything, 00:43:26.199 --> 00:43:35.860 has a chin. I will say. Nakatani, you can see 00:43:35.860 --> 00:43:39.280 why Nakatani got frustrated and drained in later 00:43:39.280 --> 00:43:41.860 rounds. Because those first four rounds where 00:43:41.860 --> 00:43:44.760 he just... Most guys just kind of don't make 00:43:44.760 --> 00:43:48.559 it out of those rounds. Especially flourishing 00:43:48.559 --> 00:43:54.940 like Hernandez did. So, yeah, Nakatani could 00:43:54.940 --> 00:43:58.420 have prepared better to box, but also, Jesus, 00:43:58.739 --> 00:44:02.699 Hernandez has a head of stone. And that was a 00:44:02.699 --> 00:44:05.019 damn good fight, though. Oh, that was a fun -ass 00:44:05.019 --> 00:44:09.199 fight. Beautiful fight. Are you down on Nakatani 00:44:09.199 --> 00:44:12.179 versus Inoue? Does it lose a little bit of its 00:44:12.179 --> 00:44:17.099 luster because of this performance? I think it'll 00:44:17.099 --> 00:44:19.920 be more of a surprise when it's... It was already 00:44:19.920 --> 00:44:23.480 a niche fight for Hardcore's. So I think when 00:44:23.480 --> 00:44:26.440 it ends up being competitive, it'll be a pleasant 00:44:26.440 --> 00:44:29.699 surprise to a lot of people. One thing it doesn't 00:44:29.699 --> 00:44:33.500 is it humanizes Nakatani. This is true, because 00:44:33.500 --> 00:44:38.739 he was just killing guys up until now. True, 00:44:38.900 --> 00:44:42.239 and Inoue has had his aura cracked a little bit 00:44:42.239 --> 00:44:47.139 already. Yeah. And it continues to crack. Yeah, 00:44:47.159 --> 00:44:52.969 speaking of which, Naoya Inoue, UD over. Does 00:44:52.969 --> 00:44:56.269 he go by Alan Picasso? I'm pretty sure he does. 00:44:56.389 --> 00:44:58.570 I'm pretty sure he goes by Alan, yeah. Well, 00:44:58.590 --> 00:45:07.210 he doesn't go by Pablo, so... So, undisputed 00:45:07.210 --> 00:45:09.530 Super Bantamweight Championship on the line, 00:45:09.650 --> 00:45:13.230 and it was a fucking easy night of work in a 00:45:13.230 --> 00:45:20.929 way. One thing about Picasso is that he's tough. 00:45:21.500 --> 00:45:24.460 He was tough to stay in there with Inouye. I 00:45:24.460 --> 00:45:30.039 gotta give it to him. I think Inouye is... He's 00:45:30.039 --> 00:45:34.400 gotten a little bored offensively, if that makes 00:45:34.400 --> 00:45:39.480 sense. Like, the creativity has not been there 00:45:39.480 --> 00:45:42.579 his past two fights. I think he didn't want to 00:45:42.579 --> 00:45:45.820 risk another knockdown. That's true. But still, 00:45:45.880 --> 00:45:49.039 like, to be fair, like, there's Reckless. Like, 00:45:49.099 --> 00:45:53.099 he wasn't like Cardenas. And like, like, like 00:45:53.099 --> 00:45:54.920 I'm going to use the Fulton fights. The Fulton 00:45:54.920 --> 00:45:58.619 fight was like, he was still defensively sound 00:45:58.619 --> 00:46:05.219 and at his most creative. So there's a difference. 00:46:05.460 --> 00:46:08.300 Yeah. I think he just looked a little bored, 00:46:08.500 --> 00:46:13.480 which is not bad, but it is a little disappointing 00:46:13.480 --> 00:46:17.179 considering it's a concerning pattern going into 00:46:17.179 --> 00:46:20.840 a fight with Nakatani. Because if David Picasso 00:46:20.840 --> 00:46:24.440 is able to counter you, Nakatani is going to 00:46:24.440 --> 00:46:27.199 land a home run regardless of how wide the cards 00:46:27.199 --> 00:46:32.980 are. I see what you guys were saying. It's not 00:46:32.980 --> 00:46:35.719 taking a risk. It's a lesser opponent that he 00:46:35.719 --> 00:46:41.000 knows is lesser. I feel like against guys like 00:46:41.000 --> 00:46:46.179 Fulton or in the past like Donair, I feel like 00:46:46.179 --> 00:46:48.519 he's... want to take more risks because he knows 00:46:48.519 --> 00:46:55.219 the love of the opposition he had. Hmm. I was 00:46:55.219 --> 00:46:58.900 going to stop up for the Nakatani. Yeah, at first 00:46:58.900 --> 00:47:03.000 I was down on the fight, the Inoue Nakatani fight, 00:47:03.139 --> 00:47:07.179 just because, but yeah, on further review, Nakatani 00:47:07.179 --> 00:47:11.860 was alright. It's not the worst performance. 00:47:12.619 --> 00:47:15.099 I still think he's going to lose pretty easily 00:47:15.099 --> 00:47:22.059 or handily to Inouye. I just think, like, Hernandez 00:47:22.059 --> 00:47:26.579 was like, he's such a, like, you can't really 00:47:26.579 --> 00:47:29.079 get creative against Hernandez offensively either. 00:47:29.139 --> 00:47:31.639 He's basically just a wall that walks towards 00:47:31.639 --> 00:47:38.659 you. Like, I think with Inouye. Like, Nakatani's 00:47:38.659 --> 00:47:42.219 offensive creativity shines a lot better against 00:47:42.219 --> 00:47:48.099 an opponent who is offensively versatile compared 00:47:48.099 --> 00:47:54.920 to Hernandez, who versatile is not a word I would 00:47:54.920 --> 00:47:59.139 use to describe him in my life. One thing I can 00:47:59.139 --> 00:48:00.920 say about Nakatani is that this fight also proved 00:48:00.920 --> 00:48:03.519 that he will go to war to win a fight. Oh, absolutely. 00:48:03.619 --> 00:48:06.079 He dug in there. Yeah, he dug in there deep. 00:48:06.590 --> 00:48:08.869 Whereas guys will fucking quit. Like, you know, 00:48:08.869 --> 00:48:12.130 Ryan. Against someone like Rowley, you know? 00:48:12.170 --> 00:48:15.949 So, I think... I know, huh? I mean, I think Nakatani, 00:48:16.090 --> 00:48:19.090 if... When faced against Inoue, he will not... 00:48:19.090 --> 00:48:22.730 He will rather die. Oh, yeah. Like, that eye, 00:48:22.789 --> 00:48:26.949 like, it did not look great. Which, honestly, 00:48:27.030 --> 00:48:29.150 I feel like... I honestly feel like there's a 00:48:29.150 --> 00:48:31.010 slight possibility that fight might be in jeopardy. 00:48:33.190 --> 00:48:37.190 For May 2nd. For May 2nd. Might be a little too 00:48:37.190 --> 00:48:39.329 soon. I feel like for the war that Nakatani was 00:48:39.329 --> 00:48:41.250 in, I think, honestly, that he should take some 00:48:41.250 --> 00:48:46.889 time to recover. Five months, though? Yeah, I 00:48:46.889 --> 00:48:48.949 think, honestly, if they were to do it in September, 00:48:49.130 --> 00:48:53.130 might be a little better. Shinata's in shambles. 00:48:54.869 --> 00:48:56.730 I mean, you don't want to risk that fight, you 00:48:56.730 --> 00:49:01.570 know? Right. I feel like with that Minecraft 00:49:01.570 --> 00:49:06.849 Steve -ass head... That he fought? Nah, you're 00:49:06.849 --> 00:49:10.409 right. Fuck. And the amount of punches he threw, 00:49:10.590 --> 00:49:13.190 the amount of damage he took, you know, every 00:49:13.190 --> 00:49:16.949 time you go into a war, a little bit of you stays 00:49:16.949 --> 00:49:21.030 in that ring, you know? Right. So I think she 00:49:21.030 --> 00:49:24.050 should take some time to recover. I would love 00:49:24.050 --> 00:49:26.449 to see that fight in May, considering, you know, 00:49:26.530 --> 00:49:28.630 Cinco de Mayo's kind of going to be a little 00:49:28.630 --> 00:49:36.059 bleak this year. But we'll see. Anything more 00:49:36.059 --> 00:49:42.260 for Night of the Samurai? Not really. Bam beats 00:49:42.260 --> 00:49:48.940 both. Bam beats neither. We shall see. Alright, 00:49:49.119 --> 00:49:52.619 moving to a quick one. Wednesday, December 31st. 00:49:53.059 --> 00:49:56.880 Shisei Promotions at the Ota City Gym. It's the 00:49:56.880 --> 00:50:00.820 traditional fight festival that the Japanese 00:50:00.820 --> 00:50:03.400 do. There's a whole bunch of shit. There's a 00:50:03.400 --> 00:50:05.590 lot of stoppages on the card. But I'm going to 00:50:05.590 --> 00:50:09.650 be honest, I could not find a valid replay. So 00:50:09.650 --> 00:50:13.369 the only one I did see, Kazuto Ioka, he stops 00:50:13.369 --> 00:50:18.869 Michael Ordoskoidi in four. That was a good one. 00:50:19.050 --> 00:50:22.730 Yeah, it was a really dominant performance. Ioka 00:50:22.730 --> 00:50:27.130 looked good at 118. So the expectation is that 00:50:27.130 --> 00:50:30.929 he's going to fight Takuma Inoue. So that should 00:50:30.929 --> 00:50:37.000 be fun. Should be a fun fight. Oh, like, we were 00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:39.840 talking, and, like, Shannara had asked, like, 00:50:39.900 --> 00:50:44.880 about the kneeling not being an automatic point 00:50:44.880 --> 00:50:49.079 deduction, not being a rule. And she asked, how 00:50:49.079 --> 00:50:53.179 often do we even see people take a knee? Or the 00:50:53.179 --> 00:50:59.619 Scoidy took a shitload of knees. The one I think 00:50:59.619 --> 00:51:04.610 of is Donair, like, running behind the ref. That's 00:51:04.610 --> 00:51:06.750 the one I think of when I think of voluntary 00:51:06.750 --> 00:51:17.250 knees. And Saturday, January 3rd. Starting off 00:51:17.250 --> 00:51:24.269 the year. There was a lot of stuff on here. Ones 00:51:24.269 --> 00:51:28.469 that I wanted to point out. Alexis Ariza beats 00:51:28.469 --> 00:51:32.070 Ebony Bridges by decision. Yeah, that was a bit 00:51:32.070 --> 00:51:35.280 of a surprise. That was an upset, yeah. So congrats 00:51:35.280 --> 00:51:40.679 to Alexis. Juan Tapia stopped in seven by Henry 00:51:40.679 --> 00:51:46.739 LeBron. The MVP fighter, Yankeel Rivera, drops 00:51:46.739 --> 00:51:50.780 the ball to Jonathan Gonzalez. Fucking Holly 00:51:50.780 --> 00:51:55.280 Holm loses to Stephanie Hahn. Stephanie Hahn 00:51:55.280 --> 00:51:59.239 retains her WBA lightweight title. It was stopped 00:51:59.239 --> 00:52:04.820 by in the seventh. for a clash of heads, I think. 00:52:05.199 --> 00:52:10.320 It was a cut on Han's forehead. It wasn't even 00:52:10.320 --> 00:52:13.260 that bad, to be honest. I think they were bailing 00:52:13.260 --> 00:52:17.519 out Holly Holm. Yeah, because she definitely 00:52:17.519 --> 00:52:20.940 was tiring out at that point, I agree. She's 00:52:20.940 --> 00:52:23.320 also a little older. Yeah, she was clearly outmatched. 00:52:23.460 --> 00:52:28.179 It seems like she's been out there forever. Can't 00:52:28.179 --> 00:52:33.949 lie. And in the main event, Amanda Serrano gets 00:52:33.949 --> 00:52:39.670 the decision over Reyna Tellez. She was really 00:52:39.670 --> 00:52:42.789 going for the knockout, but didn't manage to 00:52:42.789 --> 00:52:46.250 get it. I think she's a few behind the record 00:52:46.250 --> 00:52:55.809 for most knockouts by a female fighter. So that 00:52:55.809 --> 00:53:04.449 was fun. Request? Yep. And that's it for the 00:53:04.449 --> 00:53:08.429 recaps. Not a whole lot. Not a lot. But things 00:53:08.429 --> 00:53:11.150 will start picking up soon. It's also a light 00:53:11.150 --> 00:53:15.130 weekend. There's nothing on Saturday. But we 00:53:15.130 --> 00:53:20.909 do have two cards on Friday, January 16th. Ass 00:53:20.909 --> 00:53:24.690 crack of dawn in the fucking morning. Early ass 00:53:24.690 --> 00:53:29.130 morning. No limit in Australia. A bunch of shit 00:53:29.130 --> 00:53:31.650 on here that I don't really care about. Liam 00:53:31.650 --> 00:53:34.829 Paro versus Patty Donovan. I think this is canceled 00:53:34.829 --> 00:53:39.030 because Patty Donovan got sick. Yes, to my knowledge. 00:53:40.829 --> 00:53:45.329 And Nikita Zu versus Michael Zarafa at middleweight. 00:53:45.750 --> 00:53:49.849 So that's fun. Oh, no limit special. Yeah. Put 00:53:49.849 --> 00:53:53.710 up or shut up for Nikita Zu. Definitely. Zarafa's 00:53:53.710 --> 00:54:00.500 a good test. Hold on, let me see if this is the 00:54:00.500 --> 00:54:05.300 same guy I'm thinking of. Yeah, Liam Wilson is 00:54:05.300 --> 00:54:08.900 on this one. What the hell kind of name is this? 00:54:09.460 --> 00:54:14.480 Rodex Piala? Rodex? That dude sounds like he 00:54:14.480 --> 00:54:19.360 fucks. He sounds like a Discord user on our fucking 00:54:19.360 --> 00:54:22.340 server. He really does. Yeah, he sounds like 00:54:22.340 --> 00:54:29.110 he fucks. He's Filipino. Well, there you go. 00:54:29.170 --> 00:54:32.969 So Liam Wilson, I guess. He fought Oscar Valdez 00:54:32.969 --> 00:54:41.409 a few times. So that's fun. And this card is 00:54:41.409 --> 00:54:46.449 honestly ass. 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I'm 00:55:35.429 --> 00:55:37.969 just shocked Goldenboy still has prospects. That's 00:55:37.969 --> 00:55:40.510 the part that I'm like, wow, that's actually... 00:55:40.510 --> 00:55:43.889 Goldenboy has a decent... Yeah, this is a pretty 00:55:43.889 --> 00:55:47.409 filled -in roster, shockingly. Scrappy Ramirez. 00:55:50.369 --> 00:55:52.769 Scrappy Ramirez is always a good watch, I will 00:55:52.769 --> 00:55:55.840 say. I'm pretty sure Edwards is on the right. 00:55:59.519 --> 00:56:05.039 No, I don't think. I won't be watching. Yeah, 00:56:06.500 --> 00:56:10.219 but that's all we got coming up. One thing I 00:56:10.219 --> 00:56:11.920 will say about Golden Boy's prospect stable is 00:56:11.920 --> 00:56:15.920 that it's decent and it's better than the American 00:56:15.920 --> 00:56:21.480 stable that PBC has. You think? Yeah. What the 00:56:21.480 --> 00:56:25.389 fuck is PBC's? American Prospect Stable. Oh, 00:56:25.469 --> 00:56:28.369 Prospect Stable. Oh, yeah. 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Well, I mean, I'm 00:59:50.739 --> 00:59:54.480 the filter, so we'll see. If you just go off 00:59:54.480 --> 00:59:59.119 on some wild shit, then... Alright, parting words. 00:59:59.199 --> 01:00:04.579 What do we got? Wait, when we were doing the 01:00:04.579 --> 01:00:10.639 lists... After the next... Or the next recording. 01:00:11.480 --> 01:00:21.400 Okay, excellent. It's an all night party. Parting 01:00:21.400 --> 01:00:24.980 words. Happy New Year, guys. Hopefully the box 01:00:24.980 --> 01:00:32.079 is good this year. And fuck Dana White. We'll 01:00:32.079 --> 01:00:37.280 be talking about him next time. I was going to 01:00:37.280 --> 01:00:43.210 say something similar to that. Let's go OG. Let's 01:00:43.210 --> 01:00:46.070 go Virgil. Hopefully he gets a title this year. 01:00:46.690 --> 01:00:50.210 Another year of Virgil not winning a world title. 01:00:50.369 --> 01:00:54.929 My favorite meme. Inoue Nakatani happens before 01:00:54.929 --> 01:00:59.929 Virgil gets a title shot. Japanese Super Bowl 01:00:59.929 --> 01:01:03.889 before Virgil belled. I feel like we should do 01:01:03.889 --> 01:01:07.309 a predictions list. What happens this year? Oh, 01:01:07.389 --> 01:01:09.150 we should start publishing predictions lists 01:01:09.150 --> 01:01:11.929 for important fights. Keep track. Like a picks 01:01:11.929 --> 01:01:14.309 league. Okay. Yeah, I can start keeping track 01:01:14.309 --> 01:01:18.230 of that. Bad Left Hook used to do that. And you 01:01:18.230 --> 01:01:19.550 know what? It would be good because then we could 01:01:19.550 --> 01:01:22.369 keep each other in check. Well, I was right about 01:01:22.369 --> 01:01:24.409 pretty much everything last year. We started 01:01:24.409 --> 01:01:25.989 the year. You're fucking pretty awesome about 01:01:25.989 --> 01:01:30.070 that. We could just use the Discord pick league 01:01:30.070 --> 01:01:33.550 for keeping track. That's true. No, but what 01:01:33.550 --> 01:01:36.550 I mean is like, oh, like if Boots versus Virgil 01:01:36.550 --> 01:01:39.510 is going to happen or Wilder fights Boots type 01:01:39.510 --> 01:01:40.769 of thing, you know, that's another thing I was 01:01:40.769 --> 01:01:42.869 talking about, you know. You know, I've been 01:01:42.869 --> 01:01:46.469 hearing a lot that Wilder Usyk is set for end 01:01:46.469 --> 01:01:50.489 of April. End of April in L .A.? Yeah, in L .A. 01:01:50.489 --> 01:01:52.869 Honestly, I like I don't want to see the fight, 01:01:52.929 --> 01:01:56.030 but I want to see the fight. I already told my 01:01:56.030 --> 01:01:57.170 dad if that happens, we're going to go watch 01:01:57.170 --> 01:02:00.949 that fight. I don't know if I'd want to travel 01:02:00.949 --> 01:02:05.570 for that. Depends on the undercard. I'll do some 01:02:05.570 --> 01:02:08.809 press. All right. Let's get the hell out of here. 01:02:08.909 --> 01:02:11.030 That's it for this edition of the Boxing B -Sides. 01:02:11.170 --> 01:02:14.469 We'll fucking see you on the other side of Nikita 01:02:14.469 --> 01:02:18.369 Zoo beating Michael Zarafa. Hopefully. Oh, boy.