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Alright. Well, well, well, well, well. Boxing

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was happening. This guy just got a text that

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he's not able to crash out right now, but he

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brought a crash out text. I'm about to crash

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out. And the one and only Saul. So guys, back

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for another week. Happy to be here. Holy shit,

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let's get right into the fucking news. This feels

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odd. Usyk wants to fight Deontay Wilder. It feels

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like this is quite a few years too late. I think

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give Usyk one bomb fight. He deserves a break

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fight. If you look at Usyk's body of work, it

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really is only super easy fight. Since he came

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into the title picture was Chaz Witherspoon.

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I got to say, too, if Usyk fights Wilder, I mean,

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it beats the trifecta. He beat the guys. He beat

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the three best guys of his era. Yeah, exactly.

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So, I mean, no one's going to say he never fought

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Wilder. Well, he fought Wilder. He beat him.

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If he beats him. I think he's going to beat him,

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but if he beats him. As much as I love Usyk,

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though, I might have to root for Wilder. Here's

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Usyk's run at World Titles fights. He beat Krzysztof

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Kloacki, Michu Nu, Hunter, Michael Hunter, Marco

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Huck, Maris Britis, Murat Gassiev, Tony Bellew,

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then there's the Chaz Witherspoon fight, and

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then immediately jumped into Derek Chisora, AJ,

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AJ, Dubois, Fury, Fury, Dubois. That's a whole

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thing to run. Let the guy have a bum fight. Complete

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the set. Yeah, they've had a soft fight in years.

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Especially because it's not like he's just picking

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out some idiot without a name. At least Wilder

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has a name. Obviously not the same Wilder, but

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it's still Wilder for the name -wise. One thing

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I will say I'm not happy about is obviously Wilder

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never deserved it. Yeah. But, I mean, who the

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fuck else is there? They fucking take short again.

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Bobby Wardley. Bobby Wardley, but it sounds like

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they didn't want to put him with Usain. When

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you're thinking about, like, what fights you

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can take right now when you're looking at your

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last two or three fights, because that's what

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it is, one of them you can go and actually, like,

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have an easy camp and make some easy money. Because,

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like, one of his last two fights is going to

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be against the Tom or Wardley. It's got to be

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either one. Or fucking the Watch Trilogy. Yeah,

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like, it's going to be someone who actually deserves

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it, or, like, is actually a threat. So, like,

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why not, man? Like, why risk it against the slot

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machine that is Fabio Wardley? When you could

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just, uh... The slot machine that constantly

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hits triple sevens? Yeah, like, it's a rigged

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slot machine. Like, at least, like, Wilder's,

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like, an actual, like, he's a busted down slot

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machine. But, like, come on. This is a guy who's

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only hit triple sevens. So it is what it is.

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Well, that's it for the news. Didn't really have

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anything else. Let's get into the fucking recaps

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here. First things first, the Tasman card in

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Australia. I only picked up three off of this

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one. Tara Moana stops Herman Garcia in one. Jason

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Maloney gets a stoppage in four over Who Cares?

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Who Cares versus Who Cares? N 'Jaya Pataya, KO8.

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Fucking big KO. Yeah, fucking killed him, dude.

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Kunkara. Kunkara. Why do we keep getting these

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fucking bomb fights when... Cruiserweight's kind

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of dead. I think he's just waiting to see who

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wins from that Badu Jack fight. I doubt it. If

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not, he just can't get a good fight at cruiserweight.

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Frankly, he should just move up. I'm going to

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be so real. You think Gil Patash should move

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up? Well, he's just wasting time at cruiserweight.

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At least at heavyweight, the end goal for a cruiserweight

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is always heavyweight. Move up to Bridger. Bridger's

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funny as fuck. Go fight out. Just move up the

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heavyweight. It's really like... He weighs in

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right at 198. I'm guessing he actually... And

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he's a big boy. He'll be a small heavyweight,

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but it's better than languishing in Australia

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fighting nobody of note. Do you think his power

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is going to carry up the heavyweight? Oh, yeah.

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It's not... Especially with how scary his knockouts

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are. He's definitely going to have some on his

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pop. He has bumps. Not bumps, but guys that aren't

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at the same level. Yeah, I think it'll... He'll

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have a better chance of getting something worthwhile

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at heavyweight. Especially now that the division's

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starting to open up. Considering that the era's

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over, pretty much. Maybe. I think his power will

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get better if he moves up. Yeah. If he's not

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cutting anymore. Yeah, actually. We'll see. We'll

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see. Maybe it does. But I don't think he's going

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to go up to heavyweight. I think he wants to

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stay at cruiserweight. If he wanted to go up

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to heavyweight, he probably would have done that

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move by now. Yeah, he would have already. Yeah.

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Maybe in the future, but I think he might start

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some unfinished business at cruiserweight. All

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right. Let's get to the meat of the dish. PBC

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on Prime at the Frostbank Center in San Antonio.

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Oh. Isaac Lucero gets a stoppage in eight. Frank

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Martin ends Uncle Rancis. Thank God. That was

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such a good knockout, though. Norman got his

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chain stolen for knockout of the year. Might

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have, but it was against Rance's Bartholomew.

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Jin Sasaki's not great competition, really, either.

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Yeah, that's what I mean. At least, say what

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you will about Rance's, this guy is such a negative

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guy. He's one of those negative guys that you

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stopping him is actually a pretty big achievement.

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Is that right, though? Especially not the, like...

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Yeah, especially, like, Gary Antoine Russell,

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like, whatever debatable ref stoppage. Like,

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no, here you just killed him. No, that's... Yeah,

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that was pretty... That was a scary knockout.

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I'm not trying to take away the knockout from...

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No, but I understand, like, Bartholomew's been,

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like, one of those guys who's stuck around forever

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by stinking the place out against these guys.

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I do wish that the fight kind of went on a little

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longer. I know it sounds silly, but it's Martin's

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first fight back in a long time. New division.

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And it's at 142. And it's against Reza Bartholomew.

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I understand, yeah, it's a tune -up, but a tune

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-up, you still need some rounds, you know? I

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think you're underrating Bartholomew as an opponent

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because of how horrible he is to watch. Am I

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really underrating Bartholomew? I think I'm properly

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rating him. He's a solid... Like, stopping...

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Like, frying Bartholomew like that at 140 is

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pretty good. That itself is a pretty commendable

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achievement, but it's not like he knocked out

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someone. I know. And just the fact that the knockout

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was so... The knockout was just, like, that clean

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as fuck. It was a clean knockout. That's why

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easy KO of the year. It just comes so... It's

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just so clean. My thing with Frank Martin is

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I'm glad he got the knockout, but against races,

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Bartholomew, that's still not the best. He's

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not going to get an opportunity at Shakur or

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Tao. Well, no, but he can get a Pitbull. He can

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even get a Gary Antoine Russell. He can get a

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Gary Antoine Russell. Never know what could happen.

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I was going to say, Cruz, we're going to get

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into this. Cruz is about to be one of the more

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manufactured guys I've ever seen. Yeah. But I'll

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say this. One thing I will mention is that to

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your point about Rancid Bartholomew, I want to

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support your point, he did almost knock out Jose

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Ramirez. Yeah. I'm not saying he's some all -time

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great, but I'm saying knocking him out that brutally

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is always a welcome achievement. Yeah. Yeah,

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100%. I agree with you. Jesus Ramos, UD over

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Shane Mosley Jr. I have mixed feelings about

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this. Good to see Ramos back in the win column.

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But at the same time, it felt like he struggled

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against a pretty mid guy. And it had some trepidation

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there. One thing about Ramos is that his power

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wasn't working for him this time around. And

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since it wasn't working, he had no answers. All

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he did was spam the same button. And that was

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honestly concerning to watch. Honestly, Mosley

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turned up pretty sharp, honestly. Yeah, all respect

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to him. He had heart that night. He had heart?

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And he showed up sharper than I've seen him in

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a while. He gave a damn good performance against

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Ramos to the point, I think he almost, not almost

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that bad, Ramos. but he had Ramos hurt at one

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point. I feel like it's an outlier performance

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from Mosley where, like, this is definitely better

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than Mosley's ever looked, but he's still Shane

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Mosley Jr. Yeah. So, like, you... It's a very...

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It's a rare case, but you did catch Mosley on,

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like, a career night. I feel like they tried

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to set it up to get a knockout for Jesus Ramos.

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Yeah. For a guy like Shane Mosley Jr., that's...

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I know it's not a... big name, but it's still,

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it's mostly Junior. He's been, like, a solid

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campaigner around middleweight for a bit. Like,

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he's not great, but, like, you know. He's bumped

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up with that name. Yeah. But, honestly, I was

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watching Ramos, and honestly, I think Ramos is

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good, but he needs to be tweaked a little bit.

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He needs a little pep in his step, you know?

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That was really concerning. It could have been

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Ramos and Virgil earlier if Lubin didn't fucking

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rob him, bro. Yeah. I don't know. Ramos' career

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can still go. It's just, how old is he? Oh, he's

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young. He's like 24. Yeah, that's what I mean.

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He's still a bit of a work in progress. It's

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nothing. Yeah, which is good. It's just that

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it is concerning to see that early on right now.

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So hopefully they tweak him enough. We'll see.

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Depends on his trainer and how he develops. But

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I think, again, Mosley giving him a bit of a

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scare, a real scare, not just sitting on the

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ropes and getting beaten on, is healthy. Yeah,

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that's true. Very healthy for his career to get

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a bit of a scare from a journeyman having a career

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night. He's got that interim title now. You think

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they're lighting him up for Adonis? Ooh. That's

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an intriguing fight, actually. Yeah, I'd watch

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that. Adamas isn't that good. That would probably

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be like a co -main fight, honestly. Yeah, that's

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a good fight, actually. That's a good fight to

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make. Yeah, Benavidez, main. He's almost coming.

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Is Benavidez still with PBC? I doubt it. What?

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Is Benavidez still with PBC? No, yeah. I'm pretty

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sure he's still with Samson, right? He's still

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with Samson. Okay, then, yeah. Absolutely, Lenny.

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Get Ramos Adamas going on. Oh, man. Other than

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Adamas, what else can he do? Laura. I think they

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should have put him with Laura this time around.

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I don't know why they didn't. That was easy cash

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or money for Laura. And we'll talk about it right

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now, but that would have been a perfect fight.

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Honestly, it could have been better than Janet

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Beck -Lara. It would have been really great.

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Lara looks so fucking old. They could have put

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Johan Gonzalez with Shane Rose Jr. and then...

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Robos Lara? Yeah. Yeah, I feel like... You know

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what? Yeah, he was already ranked, actually.

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Well, you'd have to get the WBA, because it's

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the WBA that... The WBA would have to rank Ramos

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when he has the interim for the WBC. He's still

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ranked on the right or no? Once you hold the

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trinket for one sanctioning body, it's tougher

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to get a shot at another sanctioning body. You

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generally make your way up through one path.

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It's why you see you guys hold rankings, but

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not trinkets. When you get in that WBZ interim

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title, that's a death. That's a death. What's

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the word? It's not good. Whatever. It's not good.

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It's where you get stuck in the mud. You're just

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going to be spinning your wheels. Ramos is a

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guy PBC is trying to push and Adamas is on his

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way out. Yeah, like Adamas, just age -wise, you

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would rather have Ramos over Adamas. Adamas is

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31, but he's also like... He hasn't looked the

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most solid. He's a perfectly good champion, but

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he's clearly vulnerable. Well, so is Ramos, though.

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Yeah. But, again, Ramos is, like, five years

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younger, and you still have time to work with

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Ramos. I think, honestly, because it's Yohan

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Lee Hernandez that's in the... He's either going

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the IBF or the WBA route. I'm not sure. Probably

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the IBF. Middleweight's kind of gridlocked right

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now, especially now that Janabek popped and...

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Those belts are going to be in fucking limbo

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because they're probably not going to strip him.

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WBO is not fucking stripping him. Let's be real.

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Maybe IBF. IBF don't fuck around. IBF doesn't

00:16:56.409 --> 00:16:58.029
fuck around. They're going to strip him as soon

00:16:58.029 --> 00:17:04.049
as that B sample comes back. But it's still just

00:17:04.049 --> 00:17:07.049
annoying because instead of having one champ,

00:17:07.450 --> 00:17:10.549
it's like one champ with three belt. Like, you

00:17:10.549 --> 00:17:13.420
know, it's gridlocked. Because now everyone has

00:17:13.420 --> 00:17:17.519
to wait for Janabek's doping to have a consequence.

00:17:21.920 --> 00:17:24.980
What about Shane Mosley? Because he turned in

00:17:24.980 --> 00:17:27.940
a pretty damn good performance. Like, for Shane

00:17:27.940 --> 00:17:30.920
Mosley, that was pretty good. Oh, he's probably

00:17:30.920 --> 00:17:34.740
going to have another fight. Another, like, meaningful

00:17:34.740 --> 00:17:38.160
fight that he'll probably lose. But he's going

00:17:38.160 --> 00:17:41.140
to keep getting these, like, mid -level... fights

00:17:41.140 --> 00:17:49.059
as a step -up. Frankly, for me, having watched

00:17:49.059 --> 00:17:51.940
Shane Mosley Jr. on all those zone cards in the

00:17:51.940 --> 00:17:55.299
past, that was a career night for sure. He was

00:17:55.299 --> 00:17:57.720
a Golden Boy fighter for a while, right? Yeah.

00:17:57.779 --> 00:18:00.299
He just came up short. Nothing wrong with that.

00:18:00.420 --> 00:18:05.380
You need guys to both be stern tests, but also

00:18:05.380 --> 00:18:08.940
they're not great. They're going to keep you

00:18:08.940 --> 00:18:10.670
on your wits. That's it. Yeah, like you need

00:18:10.670 --> 00:18:14.190
guys to actually test and push and expose your

00:18:14.190 --> 00:18:16.930
younger boys. But it's not like he's never going

00:18:16.930 --> 00:18:19.309
to win a world title. That's not the goal for

00:18:19.309 --> 00:18:29.009
Mosley at this point, really. Oh, man. Aris Landilara.

00:18:31.029 --> 00:18:34.470
Tsk, tsk, tsk. Oh, he's so fucking old. Over

00:18:34.470 --> 00:18:41.180
Johan Gonzalez. Two knockdowns. Open the fight

00:18:41.180 --> 00:18:44.579
with it and close the fight with it. He's so

00:18:44.579 --> 00:18:51.960
fucking old, man. Yeah, he'd looked his age and

00:18:51.960 --> 00:18:57.779
Johan was hot garbage. Jesus Christ. Yeah, I

00:18:57.779 --> 00:19:00.920
stopped watching. Lara's showing everyone why

00:19:00.920 --> 00:19:04.160
you should hate him and why you should love him

00:19:04.160 --> 00:19:07.140
at the same fight. Literally the Lara cycle.

00:19:09.000 --> 00:19:12.319
Like, oh, fuck Lars. Oh, shit. Looks great. Oh,

00:19:12.440 --> 00:19:15.839
shit. He looks great. Oh, my God. And then, like,

00:19:15.920 --> 00:19:19.579
right as you're nodding off in the 11th or 12th

00:19:19.579 --> 00:19:23.500
round. Oh, my God. He's great. Yeah. Crazy. It's

00:19:23.500 --> 00:19:27.319
like fucking breadcrumb in my ass. It's like

00:19:27.319 --> 00:19:29.200
one of those chili peppers that, like, it tastes

00:19:29.200 --> 00:19:31.619
great when you bite into it. Then you have it

00:19:31.619 --> 00:19:33.779
in your mouth and it's horrible, horrible. Like,

00:19:33.819 --> 00:19:36.539
it tastes like fucking dog shit. And then once

00:19:36.539 --> 00:19:38.180
you swallow it, the aftertaste is pretty good.

00:19:40.519 --> 00:19:43.299
Please it's like a very nasty chili pepper if

00:19:43.299 --> 00:19:45.099
I had to describe the taste like the flavor,

00:19:45.240 --> 00:20:05.220
you know what I mean? So what what happens with

00:20:05.220 --> 00:20:12.660
Laura now You cash him out Against who, though?

00:20:13.140 --> 00:20:18.299
To anyone. Anyone. It can be Adamas. It can be

00:20:18.299 --> 00:20:21.960
Ramos. It can be Crawford. You find a guy and

00:20:21.960 --> 00:20:25.359
you cash him out next year because he's not fighting

00:20:25.359 --> 00:20:28.779
for another year. And that might be perfect for

00:20:28.779 --> 00:20:29.960
Crawford because he's not going to fight for

00:20:29.960 --> 00:20:31.619
another year. So you might just fucking fight

00:20:31.619 --> 00:20:32.900
Crawford. Yeah, you might as well. Yeah, sorry.

00:20:33.000 --> 00:20:35.059
Lara Crawford is going to be a hilarious fight

00:20:35.059 --> 00:20:37.019
because there's no doubt in my mind Crawford

00:20:37.019 --> 00:20:40.690
beats him. But it would be hilarious if Lara

00:20:40.690 --> 00:20:44.269
drops him early. No, that would be fucked up.

00:20:44.450 --> 00:20:49.789
That would be hilarious. You'd be like, oh my

00:20:49.789 --> 00:20:51.769
god, Lara's going to win. And then while Lara's

00:20:51.769 --> 00:20:53.630
cruising, Crawford just beats the shit out of

00:20:53.630 --> 00:20:55.650
him. Can we talk about **** again? I don't want

00:20:55.650 --> 00:20:57.410
to hear the bullshit about Crawford getting knocked

00:20:57.410 --> 00:21:00.789
out. I said knocked down. It's going to be the

00:21:00.789 --> 00:21:06.509
Lara cycle. It would be hilarious. Lara catches

00:21:06.509 --> 00:21:09.069
him early, and then Crawford just beats on him

00:21:09.069 --> 00:21:13.069
for the rest of the fight. And then we can all

00:21:13.069 --> 00:21:15.670
laugh and make our gifs about how Crawford's

00:21:15.670 --> 00:21:20.529
a chinless bum who loses to pensioners. Yeah,

00:21:20.650 --> 00:21:24.410
I don't really have a whole lot. Just Erislandy

00:21:24.410 --> 00:21:26.529
Lara. It's about time to get out of here, man.

00:21:29.529 --> 00:21:33.420
What are you doing? I know you had the... The

00:21:33.420 --> 00:21:35.460
Janet Beck thing, that's not your fault, but...

00:21:35.460 --> 00:21:38.619
Come on, man. It could have met him out early.

00:21:39.859 --> 00:21:43.960
Yes, absolutely. That's the type of fight you

00:21:43.960 --> 00:21:50.019
finish quickly. Talking about Dan? Talking about

00:21:50.019 --> 00:21:52.680
finishing quickly? Oh, I think... I don't know

00:21:52.680 --> 00:21:57.359
why... Oh, my God, bro. What is it? What is it

00:21:57.359 --> 00:22:00.269
with you today? I don't know. Leo brought it

00:22:00.269 --> 00:22:03.630
up. He was talking about finish early. Oh, my

00:22:03.630 --> 00:22:06.430
God, bro. I swear that's not happening. Hey,

00:22:06.430 --> 00:22:08.589
we got to extend it out. This one's kind of light.

00:22:09.549 --> 00:22:11.769
This one's not kind of light. We have the fucking

00:22:11.769 --> 00:22:15.849
cruise thing. Oh, shit. That's right. Still got

00:22:15.849 --> 00:22:19.150
two fights. You're wasting valuable rant time.

00:22:19.349 --> 00:22:22.210
And there's valuable rant time with discussions.

00:22:22.829 --> 00:22:26.609
Hey, I'm making Patreon time. I'm giving the

00:22:26.609 --> 00:22:29.109
Patreon. You're not making Patreon time. You're

00:22:29.109 --> 00:22:32.130
making losing sponsor time. Sponsor time? Oh,

00:22:32.150 --> 00:22:36.009
yeah. Speaking of sponsors. Oh, my God. Robin,

00:22:36.089 --> 00:22:40.349
will you take us back if we get rid of him? I

00:22:40.349 --> 00:22:42.490
will leave it if you give me free ramen. If ramen

00:22:42.490 --> 00:22:49.130
comes back. Oh, my God. Oh, Shacky Foster beat

00:22:49.130 --> 00:22:54.369
Stephen Fulton. A lot of WBC fucking bull jive

00:22:54.369 --> 00:23:01.079
going on here. Fulton misses weight and then

00:23:01.079 --> 00:23:04.880
they change the fight to be for the vacant interim

00:23:04.880 --> 00:23:10.980
135 title you know what at least they're making

00:23:10.980 --> 00:23:13.180
up a title it's not like they're just taking

00:23:13.180 --> 00:23:15.299
the belt away from someone and giving it to them

00:23:15.299 --> 00:23:19.660
they're just making up a belt why What the...

00:23:19.660 --> 00:23:21.680
It was obvious they were trying to fucking...

00:23:21.680 --> 00:23:24.339
It's not that bad. It's not as bad. Making up

00:23:24.339 --> 00:23:27.099
a shitty trinket like participation trophy isn't

00:23:27.099 --> 00:23:30.799
that bad. That's an interim title. It was ultimately

00:23:30.799 --> 00:23:33.960
to Foster's complete benefit considering Fatboy

00:23:33.960 --> 00:23:39.519
Fulton showed up and looked very stoppable. That

00:23:39.519 --> 00:23:42.180
was horrible. How the fuck do you miss weight

00:23:42.180 --> 00:23:45.019
going up? What the... What kind of fucking...

00:23:45.019 --> 00:23:48.349
What the hell is wrong with him? Use code Fulton

00:23:48.349 --> 00:23:50.769
on DoorDash, by the way. I saw that. That's funny.

00:23:51.549 --> 00:23:54.109
Like, fuck, man. Can Fulton give us a ramen back?

00:23:54.230 --> 00:23:55.970
Like, he probably ate all the fucking ramen.

00:23:56.289 --> 00:24:02.130
I blame Isaac, bro. I'm insane. That's crazy,

00:24:02.329 --> 00:24:03.890
dude. That Fulton missed the weight like that.

00:24:04.410 --> 00:24:06.329
Missed the weight by two pounds. Doesn't even

00:24:06.329 --> 00:24:10.109
try to, like, make weight the second time. He

00:24:10.109 --> 00:24:12.009
made Oshaki Foster look like a fucking pound

00:24:12.009 --> 00:24:15.009
-for -pound god. Yeah, after that, like, shows

00:24:15.009 --> 00:24:18.089
up fucking rubbing his belly, like, he just,

00:24:18.230 --> 00:24:21.170
fuck, dude, I've had it. Fuck the Tims, dude.

00:24:21.609 --> 00:24:26.410
Go fucking put on some red shoes. Like, I saw

00:24:26.410 --> 00:24:28.730
some questions, where does he go from here? Retirement,

00:24:28.789 --> 00:24:32.289
bro. I don't want to see this shit. No, I mean,

00:24:32.529 --> 00:24:34.950
again, Fulham, as much as we're going to shit

00:24:34.950 --> 00:24:37.150
on him right now, again, he was a great fighter,

00:24:37.269 --> 00:24:40.869
but what the fuck happened? He had a good little

00:24:40.869 --> 00:24:44.430
resurgence, but, like, this is, like, peak, like,

00:24:44.569 --> 00:24:47.109
you're phoning it in. If you can't even be bothered

00:24:47.109 --> 00:24:49.869
to show up on weight, you're phoning it in. Like,

00:24:49.910 --> 00:24:52.630
your heart is not in it, clearly. I hope the

00:24:52.630 --> 00:24:54.470
PBC drops him after this, dude. That's actually

00:24:54.470 --> 00:24:56.250
the most – because how are you going to miss

00:24:56.250 --> 00:25:00.410
weight and then get an interim title shot, which,

00:25:00.549 --> 00:25:02.529
again, that's – you guys say it's a trinket.

00:25:02.549 --> 00:25:05.009
That's not really just a trinket. That's an interim

00:25:05.009 --> 00:25:08.089
belt where if Shakur goes up and stays at 140,

00:25:08.410 --> 00:25:10.950
they're going to keep the belt. Yeah, good pro

00:25:10.950 --> 00:25:14.730
Jackie Foster. Yeah, maybe good pro Jackie Foster,

00:25:14.730 --> 00:25:19.809
but 4 -1. I thought I saw a poster that the vacant

00:25:19.809 --> 00:25:25.029
interim 135 was going to be on the line for some

00:25:25.029 --> 00:25:28.170
other card. Kind of like a nothing card. Yeah,

00:25:28.170 --> 00:25:30.849
it was supposed to. The WBC does these little

00:25:30.849 --> 00:25:33.130
eliminator tournaments that they enjoy doing,

00:25:33.410 --> 00:25:37.269
so. They like, this is why they fucking, people

00:25:37.269 --> 00:25:39.960
don't like this shit. This is the exact reason

00:25:39.960 --> 00:25:45.420
why. Honestly, it's all on Fulton. We don't get

00:25:45.420 --> 00:25:47.839
into debates about trinkets and whose rankings

00:25:47.839 --> 00:25:50.960
belong where if Fulton just makes weight. Yeah,

00:25:50.980 --> 00:25:56.400
yeah. If he shows up to work because it is his

00:25:56.400 --> 00:26:01.819
job and part of that job is being on weight,

00:26:02.000 --> 00:26:04.460
there's no interim world title, whatever. It's

00:26:04.460 --> 00:26:06.599
just a fight for the WBC Superfeather title.

00:26:07.140 --> 00:26:09.710
Yeah. And if he lost, so be it. I mean, yeah,

00:26:09.750 --> 00:26:13.529
you lost, but to a heavier fighter. Okay. Yeah,

00:26:13.529 --> 00:26:17.309
whatever, man. Come on. This is brutal. No, this

00:26:17.309 --> 00:26:19.549
is bad for his career. I don't want to see him.

00:26:20.809 --> 00:26:25.170
That's bad. Like, let's say what you will. Like,

00:26:25.170 --> 00:26:27.569
I'll say, like, Ryan Garcia totally blew weight

00:26:27.569 --> 00:26:31.150
with Haney. But, you know, at least he looked,

00:26:31.230 --> 00:26:34.490
like, he didn't look lethargic in there. Well,

00:26:34.509 --> 00:26:36.009
the thing is, Ryan Garcia also wasn't moving

00:26:36.009 --> 00:26:39.039
up in weight to fight. You know what I mean?

00:26:39.359 --> 00:26:42.039
He was weight -draining himself. Fucking Fulham

00:26:42.039 --> 00:26:44.940
was moving up. That's crazy. Fulham moved up

00:26:44.940 --> 00:26:47.380
and still fucked it. Yeah, yeah. I mean, how

00:26:47.380 --> 00:26:49.980
many guys do you know move up in weight and then

00:26:49.980 --> 00:26:53.140
miss weight? Yeah. In recent memory. I don't

00:26:53.140 --> 00:26:55.319
remember any of that shit. This past year, definitely

00:26:55.319 --> 00:27:03.940
not. Well, Oshaki Foster. You gotta give what?

00:27:04.640 --> 00:27:06.400
I was probably gonna say exactly what we're gonna

00:27:06.400 --> 00:27:11.720
say right now. Oh, Shacky Foster, what? Does

00:27:11.720 --> 00:27:16.220
he stay at 35? Like, because this interim thing,

00:27:16.460 --> 00:27:21.259
eh. He has the full title at 130. Fuck no, he

00:27:21.259 --> 00:27:25.099
should stay at super featherweight. He's going

00:27:25.099 --> 00:27:26.380
to have better competition there for himself

00:27:26.380 --> 00:27:28.900
that he can compete with. It's going to be better.

00:27:29.039 --> 00:27:31.200
He's not going to be waiting in line since he,

00:27:31.339 --> 00:27:35.579
again, the belts matter. He's going to be, he's

00:27:35.579 --> 00:27:40.130
the one. in charge, basically. Yeah, why vacate

00:27:40.130 --> 00:27:42.289
your belt to become interim belt? Why wait in

00:27:42.289 --> 00:27:43.950
line when you already hit the front? There's

00:27:43.950 --> 00:27:47.509
for sure going to be guys moving up just by the

00:27:47.509 --> 00:27:52.150
fact that Inoue's making his way up, Nakatani's

00:27:52.150 --> 00:27:54.549
making his way up. These guys are going to get

00:27:54.549 --> 00:27:58.369
beaten and move up, a la Fulton. So he's going

00:27:58.369 --> 00:28:02.970
to get an influx of guys. Hats off to Shaggy

00:28:02.970 --> 00:28:05.269
Foster, though. He surprised a lot of people.

00:28:05.680 --> 00:28:07.240
Oh, yeah, he looked really good. He looked really

00:28:07.240 --> 00:28:09.960
good. Like, Fulton looking bad and Foster looking

00:28:09.960 --> 00:28:13.339
good are things that can coexist. Yeah. Fulton

00:28:13.339 --> 00:28:17.500
went southpaw, and I was like, damn. I don't

00:28:17.500 --> 00:28:19.980
remember this, Oshaki Foster. Fuck, what happened?

00:28:21.200 --> 00:28:25.000
So, hats off to him. Respect him. You know, hopefully,

00:28:25.220 --> 00:28:28.660
whoever wins against Nava Nunez, maybe he fights

00:28:28.660 --> 00:28:34.509
him. You know, I see Oshaki Foster. can keep

00:28:34.509 --> 00:28:36.829
it up like this, I think he can do well in the

00:28:36.829 --> 00:28:46.450
division. But he needs to keep it up. This was

00:28:46.450 --> 00:28:48.569
actually like an entertaining fight from Foster.

00:28:49.890 --> 00:28:53.710
Yeah. I thought it was going to be better, but

00:28:53.710 --> 00:28:58.410
it was surprising. Yeah. Fulton was not the best.

00:28:59.009 --> 00:29:03.500
No, but Foster... A worse guy still makes Fulton

00:29:03.500 --> 00:29:08.299
look competent in there. Like, Foster did not

00:29:08.299 --> 00:29:11.759
let Fulton into the fight. I will say this, that,

00:29:11.819 --> 00:29:15.980
honestly, if Fulton came to actually fight, I

00:29:15.980 --> 00:29:17.339
think this would have been a really good fight.

00:29:17.579 --> 00:29:20.519
Oh, absolutely. That first round was really good.

00:29:20.740 --> 00:29:22.220
I was like, oh, shit. I was like, oh, they're

00:29:22.220 --> 00:29:25.079
already going at it? Damn. And then after that,

00:29:25.180 --> 00:29:28.440
it was like, Fulton was just fucking doing a

00:29:28.440 --> 00:29:32.750
menace round on Stoneyer. He was surviving the

00:29:32.750 --> 00:29:35.869
whole night. Sad. But you know what? You had

00:29:35.869 --> 00:29:40.109
your time, champ. Where does he go in the boxing

00:29:40.109 --> 00:29:50.349
laundry theory? I like Stephen Fulton. This was

00:29:50.349 --> 00:29:55.609
a really bad look. But I don't know. I want to

00:29:55.609 --> 00:30:02.960
believe that he can come back from this. Otherwise,

00:30:03.059 --> 00:30:06.359
he's in the hamper. Oh, yeah. It's getting hard.

00:30:09.180 --> 00:30:14.940
Yeah, missing weight. Not even trying to cut

00:30:14.940 --> 00:30:21.140
the last few ounces or whatever you can. Maybe

00:30:21.140 --> 00:30:22.819
he put on the weight bad, like he just put on

00:30:22.819 --> 00:30:28.259
dirty weight. Could be. I don't know. Let's ask

00:30:28.259 --> 00:30:32.559
Isaac. Too many cheese sticks. Steve Falcon,

00:30:32.559 --> 00:30:40.700
Isaac, bro. Oh, shit. Speaking of Isaac, Isak

00:30:40.700 --> 00:30:48.039
Cruz, Lamont Roach. What the hell? Who wants

00:30:48.039 --> 00:30:51.460
to go first? I feel like I'm going to have the

00:30:51.460 --> 00:30:56.079
least lengthy rant. Least lengthy rant? Lamont

00:30:56.079 --> 00:31:00.980
Roach looked pretty good. Not, like... but he

00:31:00.980 --> 00:31:04.200
looked pretty good. Isak looked completely incompetent

00:31:04.200 --> 00:31:07.460
in there, and he looked oddly lethargic and tired

00:31:07.460 --> 00:31:12.400
as the fight went on. As for the result, the

00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:14.839
Texas State Commission has always been kind of

00:31:14.839 --> 00:31:18.500
a joke, honestly. So it's not even that, like,

00:31:18.579 --> 00:31:21.700
Cruz is some kind of protected asset. That argument

00:31:21.700 --> 00:31:26.029
comes with his matchmaking, but... It's just

00:31:26.029 --> 00:31:27.930
like, yeah, the judging's kind of always been

00:31:27.930 --> 00:31:30.170
incompetent in Texas. And again, this is the

00:31:30.170 --> 00:31:32.109
same group of people that continue letting Lawrence

00:31:32.109 --> 00:31:36.690
Cole referee fights. Like, I think you just have

00:31:36.690 --> 00:31:41.769
to say they suck and hope. It's not like Roach's

00:31:41.769 --> 00:31:44.450
profile. Roach arguably gets a larger profile

00:31:44.450 --> 00:31:47.970
out of these controversial results. It's just

00:31:47.970 --> 00:31:52.789
that, like, yeah, it sucks for the record. You

00:31:52.789 --> 00:31:57.420
guys, what do you guys have to say? Leah, you

00:31:57.420 --> 00:32:00.460
want to go first? You had said something earlier

00:32:00.460 --> 00:32:04.160
that I really found intriguing, which was that

00:32:04.160 --> 00:32:07.220
he's like a manufactured, the most manufactured

00:32:07.220 --> 00:32:11.779
product. Yeah, he's a very protected, I said

00:32:11.779 --> 00:32:14.319
he's a protected product due to the matchmaking

00:32:14.319 --> 00:32:19.359
that he's had. Okay. Because like, realistically,

00:32:19.940 --> 00:32:24.490
like, even Ryo, Ryo was... There's a guy that,

00:32:24.529 --> 00:32:27.730
like, you probably expected him to get smoked

00:32:27.730 --> 00:32:31.990
by Cruz. Like, they've been giving him guys that

00:32:31.990 --> 00:32:38.829
he can beat. And, like, knock over. And, like,

00:32:38.829 --> 00:32:42.210
I think Roach, even Roach, Roach is a... You

00:32:42.210 --> 00:32:48.410
drag Roach up another weight class. And let's,

00:32:48.410 --> 00:32:52.069
like... I'll say that Roach is certainly surprised.

00:32:52.829 --> 00:32:57.250
but not impressed with his performances. I feel

00:32:57.250 --> 00:33:00.769
like Roach is... The impression Roach gives is

00:33:00.769 --> 00:33:02.930
a guy who has such low expectations. You have

00:33:02.930 --> 00:33:05.829
such low expectations of him that he ends up

00:33:05.829 --> 00:33:08.289
blowing you away performing the way he does.

00:33:10.069 --> 00:33:12.670
I had high expectations, especially after the

00:33:12.670 --> 00:33:15.029
tank fight. No, but I'm saying going into the

00:33:15.029 --> 00:33:18.059
tank fight, like this year. Oh, yeah, okay. yeah

00:33:18.059 --> 00:33:20.500
like he's blown you away but like really you

00:33:20.500 --> 00:33:22.799
look at him i'm like he probably could have beaten

00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:26.799
uh cruz more convincingly he had a defensive

00:33:26.799 --> 00:33:30.000
lapse with the knockdown that ended up costing

00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:33.440
him the fight as unjust as that was but there

00:33:33.440 --> 00:33:35.019
was the point deduction that kind of balanced

00:33:35.019 --> 00:33:40.849
it yeah yeah but but i mean like Yeah, like,

00:33:40.990 --> 00:33:44.430
Saul's gonna have a rant about the PPC protecting

00:33:44.430 --> 00:33:47.130
an asset, but I feel like it's just in the matchmaking

00:33:47.130 --> 00:33:52.529
itself that Cruz gets protected. Because, like,

00:33:53.490 --> 00:33:56.250
yeah, Roach totally could punch with him, but

00:33:56.250 --> 00:33:58.509
there's no moment where you're like, oh shit,

00:33:58.630 --> 00:34:00.849
Cruz is getting exposed and beaten up by this

00:34:00.849 --> 00:34:05.789
guy. Not that you haven't seen before. Yeah,

00:34:05.849 --> 00:34:09.829
like, it's nothing like... Like, and a lot of

00:34:09.829 --> 00:34:13.030
his matchmaking are guys that, like, they're

00:34:13.030 --> 00:34:14.929
older guys that probably could have been a threat

00:34:14.929 --> 00:34:18.769
when they were younger. Guys who, like, they

00:34:18.769 --> 00:34:24.250
have no threat, period. Like, I feel like Roley,

00:34:24.369 --> 00:34:27.710
Roley was always, like, tailor -made to lose

00:34:27.710 --> 00:34:33.289
to Cruz. He's very, and he's popular. You gotta

00:34:33.289 --> 00:34:35.530
remember, he's a popular Mexican action fighter.

00:34:35.710 --> 00:34:37.409
Well, that's the perception of him, at least.

00:34:38.380 --> 00:34:40.880
That's what they're trying to push. The perception

00:34:40.880 --> 00:34:44.039
of Cruz is that he's this action fighter. So

00:34:44.039 --> 00:34:46.940
it's not in how they cook decisions or whatever,

00:34:47.099 --> 00:34:49.980
because be real, this was just an incompetent

00:34:49.980 --> 00:34:53.260
decision by an infamously incompetent commission.

00:34:54.980 --> 00:34:58.000
But I think he's a very protected asset. They're

00:34:58.000 --> 00:35:02.260
not going to put him with Roach again. He was

00:35:02.260 --> 00:35:06.199
supposed to knock over Roach. Maybe set up the

00:35:06.199 --> 00:35:08.820
tank rematch? Yeah, they're probably going to

00:35:08.820 --> 00:35:11.519
set up a tank rematch and Roach... Roach is going

00:35:11.519 --> 00:35:14.260
to get an opportunity because, again, I will

00:35:14.260 --> 00:35:16.619
say that if he just got the clean win over Cruz,

00:35:17.000 --> 00:35:19.840
a lot less people would be saying Roach's name

00:35:19.840 --> 00:35:25.539
than being outraged over a bad decision. It's

00:35:25.539 --> 00:35:30.119
a... Like, all publicity is good publicity type

00:35:30.119 --> 00:35:33.900
thing, especially when you don't lose. Yeah,

00:35:33.900 --> 00:35:35.219
he didn't lose a fight. He definitely didn't

00:35:35.219 --> 00:35:37.510
lose a fight. That's the main thing. When you

00:35:37.510 --> 00:35:42.269
don't lose on paper on the result, it's a lot

00:35:42.269 --> 00:35:44.750
easier to cry outrage and have him stay in those

00:35:44.750 --> 00:35:50.590
rankings for something bigger. But that's me

00:35:50.590 --> 00:35:52.710
having a more balanced take. I hate the Texas

00:35:52.710 --> 00:35:55.929
Commission more than I throw blame on anyone

00:35:55.929 --> 00:36:03.530
else. Let her rip, Saul. I'm fiending right now.

00:36:04.079 --> 00:36:05.960
There's a couple things with this fight that

00:36:05.960 --> 00:36:08.940
I had problems with from the start. Putting Isaac

00:36:08.940 --> 00:36:10.519
Cruz and Lamar Roach on pay -per -view already

00:36:10.519 --> 00:36:15.000
is not a good decision, I think. Obviously, the

00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:19.139
PPC is feeding for money right now, just like

00:36:19.139 --> 00:36:20.599
all the other promotional companies going against

00:36:20.599 --> 00:36:26.119
the Saudi government. And seeing Pippo Cruz turn

00:36:26.119 --> 00:36:28.659
into Devin Haney last night was a sight to watch.

00:36:29.360 --> 00:36:33.059
Not only did he dance, but he fucking used his

00:36:33.059 --> 00:36:36.219
jab. I think that that itself made Josh believe

00:36:36.219 --> 00:36:40.940
in God again. But, I mean, come on, dude. That

00:36:40.940 --> 00:36:43.719
fight was a great fight. Don't get me wrong.

00:36:44.079 --> 00:36:46.960
And I would have been fine with a cross the board

00:36:46.960 --> 00:36:52.639
draw. But 116 -111 is fucking bullshit. Or 115

00:36:52.639 --> 00:36:56.599
-111. That must mean that without the point deduction,

00:36:56.900 --> 00:37:01.199
Cruz would have won the fight. 8 -4. Yeah, 8

00:37:01.199 --> 00:37:05.230
-4. That's fucking... Bullshit, you know? Not

00:37:05.230 --> 00:37:10.110
to put a plug in the rant, but I have brought

00:37:10.110 --> 00:37:12.750
it up on the podcast before. That is inherently

00:37:12.750 --> 00:37:15.809
a flaw with how judging functions from their

00:37:15.809 --> 00:37:20.130
seats. Again, two of the three judges, as you

00:37:20.130 --> 00:37:23.969
can see, can see Cruz in a round, can see Cruz

00:37:23.969 --> 00:37:28.329
hitting nothing but air or gloves. Roach is a

00:37:28.329 --> 00:37:32.309
huge catch and shoot guy. But if you have Roach's

00:37:32.309 --> 00:37:36.000
back, and all you see is Cruz landing. Like,

00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:37.519
the perception is him landing. He's not actually

00:37:37.519 --> 00:37:39.860
landing. Roach is catching and shooting. Yeah.

00:37:40.280 --> 00:37:42.699
But if all you see is Cruz landing, you're probably

00:37:42.699 --> 00:37:45.340
going to score the round for Cruz. And particularly,

00:37:45.500 --> 00:37:48.739
this is a flaw I find with Texas fights. You

00:37:48.739 --> 00:37:50.360
know how usually there's, like, a personal space

00:37:50.360 --> 00:37:52.940
bubble around the judges, like at a Vegas event?

00:37:53.360 --> 00:37:56.820
Yeah. Like, they don't get in their face. They

00:37:56.820 --> 00:37:58.579
just have the disadvantage of seeing the fight

00:37:58.579 --> 00:38:02.179
from a bad angle. Texas tends to crowd these

00:38:02.179 --> 00:38:04.860
judges, so there's a lot, like, your eye's gonna

00:38:04.860 --> 00:38:08.519
wander a little bit. And, like, just the distractions

00:38:08.519 --> 00:38:10.900
pile up in addition to the bad point of view,

00:38:11.000 --> 00:38:14.420
as well as the fact that Texas clearly has less

00:38:14.420 --> 00:38:17.739
stringent standards for judging, that, like,

00:38:17.739 --> 00:38:22.019
you get shitty decisions. Well, one thing I will

00:38:22.019 --> 00:38:24.639
say, too, is that a lot of people in the crowd

00:38:24.639 --> 00:38:27.340
thought Pitbull won. Sean Tatello, a guy that

00:38:27.340 --> 00:38:31.750
I admire, I respect him a lot. He said that he

00:38:31.750 --> 00:38:34.230
thought Pitbull won. Which, I mean, if you're

00:38:34.230 --> 00:38:35.989
in the crowd, obviously, that might be different.

00:38:36.190 --> 00:38:39.690
Pitbull was throwing more. And sometimes it looks

00:38:39.690 --> 00:38:42.630
like a lands, but obviously not. That's the catch

00:38:42.630 --> 00:38:46.150
-and -shoot style that Roach has. And again,

00:38:46.309 --> 00:38:48.269
if you're seeing it in person from an angle,

00:38:48.389 --> 00:38:52.090
if all you see is the fist getting to the target,

00:38:53.849 --> 00:38:58.130
that's going to be a scoring shot for Cruz compared

00:38:58.130 --> 00:39:01.550
to... With the reality, from the view we get,

00:39:01.670 --> 00:39:04.010
where the camera can clearly catch from a preferential

00:39:04.010 --> 00:39:07.550
angle and good lighting, Roach catching the shot

00:39:07.550 --> 00:39:12.489
and shooting back. Yeah. But what I will say,

00:39:12.489 --> 00:39:15.269
though, is it's fucking fishy to me that... How

00:39:15.269 --> 00:39:17.969
many guys, besides Mario Barrios, of course,

00:39:18.150 --> 00:39:21.969
which this is also playing to the topic, how

00:39:21.969 --> 00:39:24.010
many guys, you know, get back -to -back fucking

00:39:24.010 --> 00:39:27.980
majority draws against guys that... are from

00:39:27.980 --> 00:39:30.119
the same promotional company, you know? Are you...

00:39:30.119 --> 00:39:33.840
I feel some weird shit going on, dude. Because...

00:39:33.840 --> 00:39:37.019
Why the fuck do you fight Tank, get a majority

00:39:37.019 --> 00:39:39.119
draw? Okay, whatever. You come back, you fight

00:39:39.119 --> 00:39:41.719
Pitbull. Last four rounds for Pitbull? Really?

00:39:42.900 --> 00:39:45.380
Even if you're fucking blind, you can see that

00:39:45.380 --> 00:39:48.260
fucking Lamar Roach could have won at least one

00:39:48.260 --> 00:39:50.000
of those rounds. That is clear as day robbery.

00:39:51.000 --> 00:39:55.699
Okay? That knockdown was equaled out. Yeah, shitty

00:39:55.699 --> 00:39:58.550
decision. And I think, honestly, if you just

00:39:58.550 --> 00:40:00.329
gave it a clear across -the -board draw, everybody

00:40:00.329 --> 00:40:02.010
would have been fine. Nothing would have been

00:40:02.010 --> 00:40:05.289
wrong. But a fucking majority draw? That's some

00:40:05.289 --> 00:40:08.809
bullshit. It's just how you arrive at those decisions

00:40:08.809 --> 00:40:12.469
that, like, obviously it's a horrid decision,

00:40:12.670 --> 00:40:14.889
but I'm saying, like, the judge is looking at

00:40:14.889 --> 00:40:16.449
it from the point of view of round by round.

00:40:17.409 --> 00:40:20.159
Yeah. Not by the total punches landed. Yeah,

00:40:20.159 --> 00:40:22.119
so I mean, like, if you end up, like, absolutely,

00:40:22.320 --> 00:40:24.619
like, you can, it can be a close, because it

00:40:24.619 --> 00:40:26.760
was pretty close when you look at it from, like,

00:40:26.760 --> 00:40:28.880
the perception of, like, who is landing scoring

00:40:28.880 --> 00:40:34.119
shots ringside. So, like, it's like, okay, it

00:40:34.119 --> 00:40:35.800
was a close round, but I'm shading it to Cruz.

00:40:36.079 --> 00:40:38.420
Close round, I'm shading it to Cruz. Close round,

00:40:38.480 --> 00:40:40.260
I'm shading it to Cruz. That's three rounds that

00:40:40.260 --> 00:40:44.460
go to Cruz now. And, like, the thing is that,

00:40:44.500 --> 00:40:46.880
like, it can happen in the other direction, too,

00:40:46.960 --> 00:40:49.659
where, like, And you see it happen a lot, and,

00:40:49.679 --> 00:40:52.480
like, that was a close fight. Why was it so lopsided?

00:40:53.760 --> 00:40:56.880
Well, because, like, it was a close fight, but

00:40:56.880 --> 00:41:01.559
one guy shaded, like, eight rounds. Yeah. So,

00:41:01.619 --> 00:41:04.940
from the judge's point of view. So I feel like,

00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:07.780
again, the discussion is both Texas needs to

00:41:07.780 --> 00:41:10.559
do a better job on training and certifying officials,

00:41:10.940 --> 00:41:16.300
just generally. And, again... overhauling judging

00:41:16.300 --> 00:41:19.179
doesn't mean more judges or AI judges. It just

00:41:19.179 --> 00:41:23.099
means give judges a neutral view that actually

00:41:23.099 --> 00:41:25.340
represents the fight and not just you get the

00:41:25.340 --> 00:41:27.019
backs of the fighters for two -thirds of the

00:41:27.019 --> 00:41:29.980
damn thing and you're probably guessing. Oh,

00:41:30.019 --> 00:41:34.280
yeah. I agree, I agree. But honestly, this whole

00:41:34.280 --> 00:41:37.739
year, honestly, with PBC cards is kind of odd

00:41:37.739 --> 00:41:40.860
because I always did that three main events in

00:41:40.860 --> 00:41:45.429
one year you get a majority draw. You know? Sometimes

00:41:45.429 --> 00:41:47.389
it's just the luck of the draw. Like, you look

00:41:47.389 --> 00:41:49.530
at probabilities. That's crazy, though. Two times

00:41:49.530 --> 00:41:51.769
with the same fighter as well. Like, if you do

00:41:51.769 --> 00:41:56.030
probability, if you run probability, you know,

00:41:56.110 --> 00:41:57.849
like, when you shuffle a playlist and you don't

00:41:57.849 --> 00:42:00.070
get any repeats, that's actually it being manipulated

00:42:00.070 --> 00:42:03.909
because you're more likely to get repeats of

00:42:03.909 --> 00:42:07.440
the same occurrence. And the same thing happens

00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:10.139
here. Like, sometimes we get, like, we've gone

00:42:10.139 --> 00:42:12.539
how many years with, like, minimal draws in these

00:42:12.539 --> 00:42:14.380
cards? Of course there's going to be a bad year.

00:42:16.280 --> 00:42:20.760
But two times with the same fighter. You know

00:42:20.760 --> 00:42:22.320
what I mean? That's fishy to me. That's just

00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:24.199
how Roach fights, though. He's a catch -and -shoot

00:42:24.199 --> 00:42:26.679
fighter, which means the judges are going to

00:42:26.679 --> 00:42:29.920
see those shots landing when they don't. Honestly,

00:42:31.280 --> 00:42:33.659
this fight was a lot harder to score than fucking

00:42:33.659 --> 00:42:36.469
Tank and Roach. I found it the opposite. Like,

00:42:36.510 --> 00:42:41.929
Tank, like... Like, this one was pretty clear.

00:42:42.010 --> 00:42:43.909
Like, Roach was making his work pretty clear.

00:42:45.150 --> 00:42:47.489
If you were looking at his angle, where, like,

00:42:47.489 --> 00:42:50.090
Tank... Like, with a Tank fight, it really depends

00:42:50.090 --> 00:42:54.150
on what your judging criteria is. Yeah. Because

00:42:54.150 --> 00:42:56.090
the thing is that, say what you will about Roach,

00:42:56.090 --> 00:42:58.170
like, Roach and everything, Tank didn't give

00:42:58.170 --> 00:43:00.349
him much to catch and shoot off of, and, like,

00:43:00.349 --> 00:43:03.170
it was a pretty cagey fight compared to the Cruz

00:43:03.170 --> 00:43:05.570
fight, where... You either saw Roach catching

00:43:05.570 --> 00:43:07.369
and shooting, or you saw Roach getting touched

00:43:07.369 --> 00:43:14.690
up. Yeah. So, like, again, it's an easy fight

00:43:14.690 --> 00:43:20.010
to score on what you saw. But it's still... In

00:43:20.010 --> 00:43:22.329
a just world, there'd be a rematch not in Texas.

00:43:22.849 --> 00:43:26.030
And in an even juster world, the judges would

00:43:26.030 --> 00:43:28.309
be in a booth where they got a video feed. A

00:43:28.309 --> 00:43:31.250
neutral video feed. So they can actually see

00:43:31.250 --> 00:43:33.489
the fight without the ropes and the officials

00:43:33.489 --> 00:43:37.750
and the backs of fighters blocking them. We should

00:43:37.750 --> 00:43:42.289
put that in the Oli Reform Act. Yeah. No, they're

00:43:42.289 --> 00:43:48.070
going to put AI judges. Training data Mike Tyson

00:43:48.070 --> 00:43:50.869
highlights. So now Isak Cruz can win unanimous

00:43:50.869 --> 00:43:55.250
decisions instead of draws. I think I agree with

00:43:55.250 --> 00:44:00.230
what Josh said about Isaac Cruz being manufactured

00:44:00.230 --> 00:44:04.309
to an extent because the PBC, they need a fighter

00:44:04.309 --> 00:44:06.989
that will bring him money. And Isaac Cruz, if

00:44:06.989 --> 00:44:11.989
he was a more skilled fighter like Canelo, he

00:44:11.989 --> 00:44:14.989
can do that. And he can possibly become a star

00:44:14.989 --> 00:44:17.230
with the Mexican community, which he's not a

00:44:17.230 --> 00:44:20.989
star. People weren't buying me to go grill for

00:44:20.989 --> 00:44:24.230
this fight, at least from what I've seen. But

00:44:24.230 --> 00:44:27.510
unfortunately, that's just the way the cookie

00:44:27.510 --> 00:44:31.159
crumbles, you know? It is what it is. Lamont

00:44:31.159 --> 00:44:33.000
Roach gets another majority draw. I hope it doesn't

00:44:33.000 --> 00:44:35.079
discourage him. I hope it, if anything, it encourages

00:44:35.079 --> 00:44:37.260
him more to come back and fight even harder.

00:44:38.039 --> 00:44:40.579
Yeah. Because he got fucked. Lamont got fucked

00:44:40.579 --> 00:44:43.519
royally this year. Oh, yeah. He's probably the

00:44:43.519 --> 00:44:45.500
only guy to ever win fighter of the year off

00:44:45.500 --> 00:44:49.960
of two draws. He might be, yeah. He genuinely

00:44:49.960 --> 00:44:56.079
might be, man. I don't know. We'll see what happens

00:44:56.079 --> 00:44:58.840
with him. What do you think goes next, Mayor?

00:44:59.159 --> 00:45:07.880
I was going to ask. 140. Who has the WBC belt?

00:45:08.019 --> 00:45:13.260
Surreal Matias. This is the interim. If you really

00:45:13.260 --> 00:45:16.119
want to be mean to Cruz and finally get rid of

00:45:16.119 --> 00:45:20.659
him, put him up against Matias, dude. That would

00:45:20.659 --> 00:45:22.760
be a fun -ass fuck fight. It would be really

00:45:22.760 --> 00:45:27.239
fun. He's getting decimated against Matias. That

00:45:27.239 --> 00:45:31.219
would be fun as hell. He might just knock out

00:45:31.219 --> 00:45:36.460
Matias. You never know. Sure. Dude, Cruz has

00:45:36.460 --> 00:45:40.340
a fucking rock -solid head. TKO by broken hands.

00:45:41.059 --> 00:45:43.619
Yeah, you never fucking know. It's crazy right

00:45:43.619 --> 00:45:47.369
now, that dude. Big -ass fucking... Dude, he

00:45:47.369 --> 00:45:50.909
really put up the Pitbull name, fucking wagging

00:45:50.909 --> 00:45:53.230
his tail and sticking out his tongue. Barked

00:45:53.230 --> 00:46:00.690
for Lamar Roach. Honestly, I think as fun as

00:46:00.690 --> 00:46:02.630
he is and as good as he is for selling tickets,

00:46:02.849 --> 00:46:08.489
I think it's... The same way I rag on BritBox

00:46:08.489 --> 00:46:12.469
manufactured guys, where I want you gone, I want

00:46:12.469 --> 00:46:16.860
Cruz gone in a similar way. No, I think Cruz

00:46:16.860 --> 00:46:19.340
is a perfect undercard fighter. Yeah, like, at

00:46:19.340 --> 00:46:21.139
some point, it's not... Yeah, but the thing is

00:46:21.139 --> 00:46:23.760
that, like, how many of his recent fights have

00:46:23.760 --> 00:46:27.659
been, like, actually fun? Fierro was... I was

00:46:27.659 --> 00:46:29.699
gonna say Angel Fierro was a good one. Fierro?

00:46:29.820 --> 00:46:34.019
Yeah. Yeah. But his last one was... Ryo, he looked

00:46:34.019 --> 00:46:38.420
like shit. Cabrera, he looked like shit. Salcido

00:46:38.420 --> 00:46:40.639
Gomez, he looked like shit. He looked like shit

00:46:40.639 --> 00:46:42.900
with Rode. Like, it's... It's guys that fight

00:46:42.900 --> 00:46:46.980
like him. He has a very specific style that he

00:46:46.980 --> 00:46:52.500
meshes with. I'd rather just not run the gamble

00:46:52.500 --> 00:46:54.500
of having to watch him underperform every other

00:46:54.500 --> 00:46:57.260
fight because the guy doesn't fight exactly tailored

00:46:57.260 --> 00:47:03.780
to getting knocked out. I'm not going to be a

00:47:03.780 --> 00:47:06.179
hypocrite and support him because he's not British.

00:47:06.340 --> 00:47:11.460
He's very much the manufactured mold of some

00:47:11.460 --> 00:47:14.719
of these British guys. Yeah, they look good when

00:47:14.719 --> 00:47:18.739
they're against guys made for them. Not as fun

00:47:18.739 --> 00:47:20.539
when they're against guys who can actually box.

00:47:23.619 --> 00:47:25.559
Honestly, if they want to, they could put him

00:47:25.559 --> 00:47:29.739
with GAR. But that's a decimation. Honestly,

00:47:29.840 --> 00:47:32.900
I feel like if they put Lamont... Oh yeah, 100%.

00:47:32.900 --> 00:47:36.400
If they put Lamont with GAR, that would be an

00:47:36.400 --> 00:47:38.360
interesting fight. That's what I mean. I'm saying

00:47:38.360 --> 00:47:40.900
Lamont will end up with a better opportunity.

00:47:41.820 --> 00:47:46.099
But maybe not a bigger one. I want to see Lamont

00:47:46.099 --> 00:47:47.800
in a tank fight, but I really don't think it's

00:47:47.800 --> 00:47:50.059
possible if tanks didn't even come back. I don't

00:47:50.059 --> 00:47:51.820
even think tanks are going to come back unless

00:47:51.820 --> 00:47:57.079
it's against straight trash. He's not going to

00:47:57.079 --> 00:48:00.940
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00:48:00.940 --> 00:48:03.880
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00:48:03.880 --> 00:48:12.750
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00:48:12.750 --> 00:48:15.369
a good one too. Puyo for Roach is good. That's

00:48:15.369 --> 00:48:20.650
good. Yeah. They'll probably give it to Puyo.

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For some fucking reason. Majority draw. No, just

00:48:26.090 --> 00:48:29.409
a Puyo decision. They like doing that with Puyo.

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It's back, baby. Um, I'm looking at... That should

00:51:38.909 --> 00:51:52.710
be fun. And headlining Ramon Cardenas' back versus

00:51:52.710 --> 00:51:59.170
Eric Robles. I only really know who... I only

00:51:59.170 --> 00:52:01.150
know a handful, like one or two of these guys,

00:52:01.210 --> 00:52:05.500
but pro box to it. It's going to be good matchups.

00:52:08.139 --> 00:52:10.980
We interrupt our program to bring you this important

00:52:10.980 --> 00:52:15.280
message. So, some of the stuff that we got to

00:52:15.280 --> 00:52:18.880
cut in here. First, just to get it out of the

00:52:18.880 --> 00:52:24.980
way, there's a Taken card on December 17th. It's

00:52:24.980 --> 00:52:27.639
a Wednesday. It'll be, like, on the West Coast.

00:52:27.679 --> 00:52:29.980
It'll be, like, at 1 in the morning. Something

00:52:29.980 --> 00:52:36.159
like that. Where is it in the outline? It's in

00:52:36.159 --> 00:52:39.460
the bottom half. Bottom half, yeah, taken. Okay,

00:52:39.559 --> 00:52:42.039
yeah, yeah. So we talk about it more at length

00:52:42.039 --> 00:52:45.940
on Boxing Before Dark, but really the only two

00:52:45.940 --> 00:52:49.099
I'm tracking here are Anthony Olaskwaga vs. Taku

00:52:49.099 --> 00:52:53.900
Kuwahara and Seiya Tsutsumi vs. Nonito Donair.

00:52:55.239 --> 00:52:58.500
Jesus Christ, Donair is still fighting. 43 years

00:52:58.500 --> 00:53:05.329
old, man. Yeah, no. Tsutsumi should absolutely

00:53:05.329 --> 00:53:09.909
watch him. Yeah, you'd think. Shinada's betting

00:53:09.909 --> 00:53:14.389
that Donair's left hook is still an active missile.

00:53:15.309 --> 00:53:17.969
Donair getting a meme knockout would be so bad

00:53:17.969 --> 00:53:21.710
for this division. Would be pretty funny, though.

00:53:22.369 --> 00:53:25.769
It would be so funny. Shinada loves Tsutsumi.

00:53:26.929 --> 00:53:30.329
Oh, Shinada would die, too. She'd probably kill

00:53:30.329 --> 00:53:35.449
herself in the park. There's another title fight

00:53:35.449 --> 00:53:40.050
down the bill. Kiyosuke Takami versus Rene Santiago.

00:53:40.230 --> 00:53:43.269
The WBO light flyweight title on the line. Light

00:53:43.269 --> 00:53:47.550
flyweight, yeah. Ola Squaga's the flyweight champ

00:53:47.550 --> 00:53:52.590
for WBO. And the Tsutsumi Donair fight is for

00:53:52.590 --> 00:54:01.920
a WBA interim bantamweight, I think. Yes. Kind

00:54:01.920 --> 00:54:04.059
of still crazy that Donair's getting these title

00:54:04.059 --> 00:54:08.219
shots, but, you know. Name value, I guess. Yeah.

00:54:08.400 --> 00:54:14.460
Yeah, it's Donair. It's Donair. The other card

00:54:14.460 --> 00:54:20.039
is No Limit Boxing in Australia at the TikTok

00:54:20.039 --> 00:54:24.519
Entertainment Center. Gross. They just banned

00:54:24.519 --> 00:54:26.980
social media for teenagers, too. Yeah, under

00:54:26.980 --> 00:54:35.519
-16s. Fucking hilarious. I don't know. Let's

00:54:35.519 --> 00:54:39.880
see. On this one, Kevin Mazudier, or Cohen Mazudier,

00:54:39.960 --> 00:54:43.880
excuse me. He's always a fun scrap, but he's

00:54:43.880 --> 00:54:48.559
not anything great. Just tracking the top two.

00:54:48.739 --> 00:54:53.840
Sam Goodman versus Tyler Blizzard. Man, fuck

00:54:53.840 --> 00:54:57.420
Sam Goodman. Yeah, I should not deny your team,

00:54:57.539 --> 00:55:01.159
Blizzard. Yeah, no, fuck Sam Goodman. He wasted

00:55:01.159 --> 00:55:05.440
like a year of Inoue's prime. Yep. Not pleased

00:55:05.440 --> 00:55:08.679
with him. But he does have a lot of experience,

00:55:08.860 --> 00:55:13.539
and Tyler Blizzard is, yeah, not so much. And,

00:55:13.539 --> 00:55:22.219
yeah, 27, 10 -0 with four KOs. Rough. Rough.

00:55:22.420 --> 00:55:26.519
And in the main, Tim Zhu, he's back at middleweight.

00:55:26.860 --> 00:55:32.199
Versus Anthony Velasquez. Cuban. Cuban Tim Zoo.

00:55:32.400 --> 00:55:41.940
Yeah. Timoteo. Oh, Jesus. Yeah, it's going to

00:55:41.940 --> 00:55:44.920
be interesting to see what the Cuban coach put

00:55:44.920 --> 00:55:49.519
into his toolkit. And how his power carries up

00:55:49.519 --> 00:55:52.019
at middleweight. Because he was a big puncher.

00:55:52.039 --> 00:55:59.139
Yeah. He was a big -ish puncher at 154. We'll

00:55:59.139 --> 00:56:03.239
see how it goes. Hopefully we see Zubzak come

00:56:03.239 --> 00:56:07.199
back in some way, shape, or form. The middleweight

00:56:07.199 --> 00:56:09.820
stinks. Middleweight stinks. If he's not completely

00:56:09.820 --> 00:56:14.659
ruined, then it's not unrealistic that he'll

00:56:14.659 --> 00:56:19.780
pick up a belt. Bye -bye, Laura. Oh, yeah, going

00:56:19.780 --> 00:56:22.800
up the PBC route. Or he could scoop up whatever

00:56:22.800 --> 00:56:26.920
vacancies Janabek leaves over. For a second,

00:56:26.980 --> 00:56:30.079
I could say he's going to kill Kurt Scooby. What?

00:56:34.519 --> 00:56:36.400
You're thinking of like Emma Williams if you're

00:56:36.400 --> 00:56:41.119
talking about 160 guys. Yeah. I'm pretty sure

00:56:41.119 --> 00:56:42.659
they're saying that Emma Williams is going to

00:56:42.659 --> 00:56:46.179
fight Adamis next. Yeah. It's an interesting

00:56:46.179 --> 00:56:50.099
fight. Interesting matchmaking. Yeah. I would

00:56:50.099 --> 00:56:53.039
have never expected that, but, you know. Oh,

00:56:53.039 --> 00:56:56.920
it is what it is. Yeah. Ammo's with Matchroom?

00:56:57.800 --> 00:57:01.239
Mm -hmm. Yeah, makes sense that they got him

00:57:01.239 --> 00:57:06.019
into a title shot. Honestly, it'll probably be

00:57:06.019 --> 00:57:09.639
see how this comeback goes, then Zarafa for another

00:57:09.639 --> 00:57:12.679
easy touch, and then see who's open for a big

00:57:12.679 --> 00:57:16.400
fight. Oh, that's what I forgot about Zarafa.

00:57:17.000 --> 00:57:18.920
That's right. It's going to be like Zarafa's

00:57:18.920 --> 00:57:23.860
there, he's ranked. I don't know. It's not. Yeah,

00:57:23.900 --> 00:57:26.820
two easy touches and then see what they can make

00:57:26.820 --> 00:57:31.519
of it. Yeah. But that one's also on Wednesday,

00:57:31.760 --> 00:57:35.300
December 17th. Probably starting around the same

00:57:35.300 --> 00:57:41.900
time as the Japanese card. Looking at the length

00:57:41.900 --> 00:57:45.199
of them, we should be able to get through the

00:57:45.199 --> 00:57:48.900
Japanese card before Tim Zhu comes out. Yes.

00:57:49.500 --> 00:57:54.780
That timing should work out decently. But the

00:57:54.780 --> 00:57:59.199
main dish that we did not get to in the main,

00:57:59.219 --> 00:58:02.559
when we recorded the main part, Friday, December

00:58:02.559 --> 00:58:09.460
19th, MVP on Netflix in Miami. Jake Paul versus

00:58:09.460 --> 00:58:14.380
Anthony Joshua. What's it about? What's it about?

00:58:16.199 --> 00:58:19.380
By the board of, what do they call it? Florida?

00:58:19.480 --> 00:58:22.340
What do they call it? Florida State Athletic

00:58:22.340 --> 00:58:25.710
Commission? I don't know. Yeah, the ones who

00:58:25.710 --> 00:58:31.010
will let anything fly. If we don't see Jake Paul

00:58:31.010 --> 00:58:34.570
knocked out by round two, the fight is rigged.

00:58:34.690 --> 00:58:37.789
I don't know, man. Oh, my God. If we're getting

00:58:37.789 --> 00:58:40.190
into rigged fights with Jake Paul, none of them

00:58:40.190 --> 00:58:42.489
are rigged. His matchmaking is just that. His

00:58:42.489 --> 00:58:45.690
management is just that good. Okay, let me ask

00:58:45.690 --> 00:58:49.010
you this. How would AJ knock out someone like

00:58:49.010 --> 00:58:51.329
Francis Ngannou, who is at least a legitimate

00:58:51.329 --> 00:58:54.449
fighter? I mean, I'm not saying... Stationary

00:58:54.449 --> 00:58:59.929
target, I will say. Jake Paul is not that good

00:58:59.929 --> 00:59:01.349
of a fighter. I mean, he's a fighter. I would

00:59:01.349 --> 00:59:03.949
say now he's proven himself as some legitimate.

00:59:04.329 --> 00:59:07.750
However, I would argue that Francis Ngannou was

00:59:07.750 --> 00:59:09.409
a little more legitimate of a fighter. A lot

00:59:09.409 --> 00:59:12.130
more of a legitimate fighter. I think in regards

00:59:12.130 --> 00:59:15.150
to boxing, they end up being about the same.

00:59:17.110 --> 00:59:20.289
Ngannou's one of the watched MMA guys that Jake

00:59:20.289 --> 00:59:24.590
would fight. I don't know about that, but I'll

00:59:24.590 --> 00:59:27.869
say this, that Jake Paul, if he's not out by

00:59:27.869 --> 00:59:32.269
round two, then that's going to be winning for

00:59:32.269 --> 00:59:35.409
him in my book. I think it would be probably

00:59:35.409 --> 00:59:38.409
the funniest thing in history if AJ got taken

00:59:38.409 --> 00:59:43.369
out. Oh, that would be so fucking sad. It'd be

00:59:43.369 --> 00:59:46.570
so funny. I'll be right there in the chat with

00:59:46.570 --> 00:59:52.539
Jake Paul Mafia. Fucking Jake Paul Mafia. That

00:59:52.539 --> 00:59:57.000
gif is going triple platinum. Jake Paul versus

00:59:57.000 --> 00:59:59.179
Tyson Fury, and then he beats Tyson Fury by 2

00:59:59.179 --> 01:00:01.619
-6. And then that's the fight of the century.

01:00:01.659 --> 01:00:06.139
We finally get undisputed at one heavyweight

01:00:06.139 --> 01:00:09.659
if he fights more than me. That's like a Hall

01:00:09.659 --> 01:00:15.739
of Fame run. I just, oh my god. See, that's the

01:00:15.739 --> 01:00:18.969
thing. Like, I want humor. This fight's rigged.

01:00:19.010 --> 01:00:20.349
This fight's rigged. So, I'm like, no, that's

01:00:20.349 --> 01:00:24.590
just the matchmaking being that good. Okay, you

01:00:24.590 --> 01:00:27.050
told me that AJ, a guy who's fucking been in

01:00:27.050 --> 01:00:29.369
the Olympics, knocked out bigger, better guys

01:00:29.369 --> 01:00:33.909
than Jake Paul. Do you like it or not? The Olympics

01:00:33.909 --> 01:00:37.289
in, like, quotations, man. Like, I just saw Frazier

01:00:37.289 --> 01:00:40.630
Clark lose to a guy worse than Jake Paul. I'm

01:00:40.630 --> 01:00:43.269
insane. The other week. I'm insane. Frazier Clark

01:00:43.269 --> 01:00:45.409
literally, like, saved, like, Olympic pedigree,

01:00:45.449 --> 01:00:48.500
whatever. lost to a guy worse than Jake Paul

01:00:48.500 --> 01:00:51.719
the other week. Come on. Like, I'm just saying,

01:00:51.780 --> 01:00:55.519
it's ridiculous, but, like, it's, like, like,

01:00:55.579 --> 01:00:58.619
the matchmaking, we'll be looking at it in hindsight,

01:00:58.659 --> 01:01:02.099
being like, oh, AJ just soaked a really bad knockout,

01:01:02.119 --> 01:01:05.199
was out of the ring, had the cut weight for the

01:01:05.199 --> 01:01:07.179
first time ever, even though it's basically the

01:01:07.179 --> 01:01:10.079
same as taking a shit. Like, hindsight can easily

01:01:10.079 --> 01:01:13.940
vindicate this if you think about it. Like, we

01:01:13.940 --> 01:01:17.510
can't... We can't be all in on AJ's going to

01:01:17.510 --> 01:01:20.849
kill this guy because we're going to look really

01:01:20.849 --> 01:01:25.590
stupid. We got to think about all the factors

01:01:25.590 --> 01:01:28.550
that would apply in hindsight. Well, I'm thinking

01:01:28.550 --> 01:01:31.130
that it's not going to be. I think it's going

01:01:31.130 --> 01:01:32.889
to go to decision. I got a feeling. There's no

01:01:32.889 --> 01:01:35.829
way that's going to be by knockout. There's got

01:01:35.829 --> 01:01:38.050
to be some sort of clause in there. Oh, my God,

01:01:38.210 --> 01:01:41.980
bro. This is the tinfoil. Nah, come on, dude.

01:01:42.199 --> 01:01:44.460
How the fuck do you not knock out Jake Paul?

01:01:44.780 --> 01:01:47.760
How the fuck do you not knock him out? Well,

01:01:47.760 --> 01:01:50.239
it's easy. It's the same way you take seven rounds

01:01:50.239 --> 01:01:53.380
to take out Robert Hellenius coming off a fight.

01:01:54.219 --> 01:01:57.980
Coming off a bad knockout. Come on, dude. Jake

01:01:57.980 --> 01:02:03.659
Paul barely knows the fundamentals. So do half

01:02:03.659 --> 01:02:10.340
of the heavyweights in the world. Don't humor

01:02:10.340 --> 01:02:15.760
me, man. Come on. You're going to tell me. I'm

01:02:15.760 --> 01:02:19.679
so in for the funniest possible result happening.

01:02:20.699 --> 01:02:23.719
I mean, I'll be funny as fuck to see AJ get knocked

01:02:23.719 --> 01:02:27.079
out. Like, I'm so in on the funniest things happening.

01:02:28.000 --> 01:02:30.760
Especially because I'm like, you know what? I'm

01:02:30.760 --> 01:02:34.199
fine with Jake Paul keeping his interest in boxing

01:02:34.199 --> 01:02:36.380
for what he does for the women's side of the

01:02:36.380 --> 01:02:40.000
sport as well. I gotta give Jake Paul for taking

01:02:40.000 --> 01:02:41.679
the fight in the first place, you know? That's...

01:02:41.679 --> 01:02:44.119
Whether you like it or not, it's ballsy. It's

01:02:44.119 --> 01:02:48.199
a tough task, for sure. Yeah. Honestly, I think

01:02:48.199 --> 01:02:50.480
as much shit as I've ever given to Jake Paul,

01:02:50.619 --> 01:02:54.519
as fucking my whole life that I've known Jake

01:02:54.519 --> 01:02:58.179
Paul, I gotta respect him for this. Because he's

01:02:58.179 --> 01:02:59.980
putting his life on the line, no matter what,

01:03:00.019 --> 01:03:02.900
you know? Again, 10 -4 or higher, it can still

01:03:02.900 --> 01:03:05.440
be rigged, but he's still putting it on the line.

01:03:05.559 --> 01:03:07.989
We always forget that this is... a life and death

01:03:07.989 --> 01:03:11.130
situation at times, you know? And you can fucking,

01:03:11.210 --> 01:03:13.969
you never know, you know? So I got to give it

01:03:13.969 --> 01:03:17.969
to him. I'm just going to say, like, I'm like,

01:03:18.250 --> 01:03:21.929
it's obvious, the result is so obvious on paper.

01:03:23.409 --> 01:03:26.929
But, like, I feel like if it ends up being, like,

01:03:26.989 --> 01:03:31.630
complete sideways, out of nowhere, like, AJ looks

01:03:31.630 --> 01:03:34.380
like shit and then dies. Like, in hindsight,

01:03:34.539 --> 01:03:39.400
it's going to be a lot of coke when, like, all

01:03:39.400 --> 01:03:41.599
the factors that would contribute to AJ being

01:03:41.599 --> 01:03:50.340
shot as shit and looking bad enough are there.

01:03:50.980 --> 01:03:53.280
I mean, certain things happen, you know. Tommy

01:03:53.280 --> 01:03:55.639
Morrison fought, what was that guy's name? Michael

01:03:55.639 --> 01:03:58.940
Bent. Not Michael Bent. Tommy Morrison fought

01:03:58.940 --> 01:04:02.949
a guy that was in the crowd. Yeah, but that guy,

01:04:04.469 --> 01:04:08.789
like, that was a carry job for Morrison. Yeah,

01:04:08.829 --> 01:04:10.849
but I'm just saying, strange things happen. Yeah.

01:04:10.949 --> 01:04:14.289
No, I'm saying, like, there's the perfect mix

01:04:14.289 --> 01:04:18.750
of AJ could just not take him seriously. He's

01:04:18.750 --> 01:04:24.630
older. How old is he again? 35, I think. 36.

01:04:26.000 --> 01:04:30.119
He's 36. He's taken several beatings, particularly

01:04:30.119 --> 01:04:32.980
his most recent one, and he always looks worse

01:04:32.980 --> 01:04:35.679
off long layoffs as well throughout his career.

01:04:38.079 --> 01:04:41.539
He's been in wars. He's taken beatings. He just

01:04:41.539 --> 01:04:44.780
took, like, that knockout was really bad for

01:04:44.780 --> 01:04:48.380
a fragile... Let's fucking entertain this for

01:04:48.380 --> 01:04:52.099
just one second, okay? If Jake Paul wins, let's

01:04:52.099 --> 01:04:54.360
say by knockout or decision, whatever, he wins.

01:04:55.099 --> 01:04:57.019
That ranks him in the heavyweight division, no

01:04:57.019 --> 01:04:59.480
doubt about it. Oh, I cry laughing, though. Like,

01:04:59.480 --> 01:05:02.320
first I pissed myself. Side -splitting hilarious.

01:05:03.920 --> 01:05:06.300
I'd honestly go kiss Dan Raphael if that happens,

01:05:06.400 --> 01:05:09.400
dude. I'm not gonna lie. If that happens, I'm

01:05:09.400 --> 01:05:13.239
going crazy. Oh, my God, bro. Like, I'm gonna

01:05:13.239 --> 01:05:15.539
say, like, in hindsight, like, should Jake Paul

01:05:15.539 --> 01:05:19.179
win or even look competitive? In hindsight, we're

01:05:19.179 --> 01:05:21.199
gonna be looking at a lot of these factors. Like,

01:05:21.260 --> 01:05:26.519
Joshua... Hasn't fought in a while. He's taken

01:05:26.519 --> 01:05:29.579
some really bad beatings. He's older. He's never

01:05:29.579 --> 01:05:36.820
been that super durable. It's the Florida Commission,

01:05:37.039 --> 01:05:42.340
which means we might get a fun little incompetence

01:05:42.340 --> 01:05:47.099
show from judges and referees. Right, yeah. AJ's

01:05:47.099 --> 01:05:50.340
never fought. He fought once outside of the UK.

01:05:51.019 --> 01:05:53.079
But, like, Florida weather is different than

01:05:53.079 --> 01:05:57.199
the U .K. No, the human energy shouldn't bother

01:05:57.199 --> 01:06:01.780
him because U .K. is pretty humid. Yeah. Let's

01:06:01.780 --> 01:06:04.079
say Jake Paul wins. Who would he fight next?

01:06:04.599 --> 01:06:09.420
Or Lee? I don't know. I think he just retires.

01:06:09.460 --> 01:06:11.280
He retires on top like that. That would be too

01:06:11.280 --> 01:06:14.199
funny. Like, you can't top the hilarity at that

01:06:14.199 --> 01:06:17.739
point. I mean, he would make a shit ton more

01:06:17.739 --> 01:06:19.840
money if he won and then fought someone like

01:06:19.840 --> 01:06:22.840
Tyson Fury. That would make a shit ton of money,

01:06:22.860 --> 01:06:26.099
way more than this fight. That would be comical,

01:06:26.139 --> 01:06:29.239
though. Tyson Fury, 6 '9", standing in front

01:06:29.239 --> 01:06:35.139
of Jake Paul. 6 '1", Jake Paul. And then he gets

01:06:35.139 --> 01:06:38.099
a shot at Usyk for some fucking reason. Oh, my

01:06:38.099 --> 01:06:42.179
God. Hey, listen, if Usyk, like, Jake Paul, Usyk,

01:06:42.179 --> 01:06:44.320
and then, like, Usyk super, like, he's cleared

01:06:44.320 --> 01:06:48.119
out his era and the next era. Guys, I see it.

01:06:48.159 --> 01:06:50.059
I see it. I see it, okay? You know how they're

01:06:50.059 --> 01:06:52.460
doing the Anthony... This just in, by the way.

01:06:52.500 --> 01:06:55.920
The Anthony Joshua Fury are, I guess... Yeah,

01:06:55.920 --> 01:06:59.739
the Turkey Curse, too. Has two fights planned

01:06:59.739 --> 01:07:03.360
for both of them. Yeah, the Turkey... The Turkey

01:07:03.360 --> 01:07:07.019
Curse. There's so many things that could... Little

01:07:07.019 --> 01:07:12.960
things that could just go wrong there. I'm not

01:07:12.960 --> 01:07:18.429
giving Jake Paul... Like, I don't think he has

01:07:18.429 --> 01:07:21.909
the ability to win. I just think there is a,

01:07:21.929 --> 01:07:26.469
like... Non -zero chance. There's a very obvious

01:07:26.469 --> 01:07:30.630
and present set of reasons that could create

01:07:30.630 --> 01:07:34.530
the conditions for AJ to look horrible. I got

01:07:34.530 --> 01:07:36.769
an idea for a doubleheader, okay? You have AJ

01:07:36.769 --> 01:07:39.949
fight Justice Huni, okay? Oh, my God, bro. And

01:07:39.949 --> 01:07:43.329
in the main event, you got Jake Paul versus Tyson

01:07:43.329 --> 01:07:48.260
Fury for... The Battle of America. There you

01:07:48.260 --> 01:07:52.059
go. Why Justice Hootie, though? That's a random

01:07:52.059 --> 01:07:56.460
shout. Nah, give him Gassiev, dude. AJ Gassiev

01:07:56.460 --> 01:07:58.159
would be a good tune -up. That way you have a

01:07:58.159 --> 01:08:02.960
trinket. Then yeah, Gassiev. Trinket. He just

01:08:02.960 --> 01:08:07.119
fought. In New York. Or the fucking White House.

01:08:07.780 --> 01:08:12.539
On the 4th of July. Boom. Making a fucking shit

01:08:12.539 --> 01:08:18.340
ton of money. Boom. Point is, the result should

01:08:18.340 --> 01:08:22.279
obviously be AJ decimating Jake Paul, but should

01:08:22.279 --> 01:08:24.920
it not be, the reasons are there for it to not

01:08:24.920 --> 01:08:29.300
be. Like, we could totally have AJ showing up

01:08:29.300 --> 01:08:31.300
looking like Chris Eubank because he got fat

01:08:31.300 --> 01:08:36.779
during his layoff. His year and a half layoff

01:08:36.779 --> 01:08:41.210
after getting brutally knocked out. So could

01:08:41.210 --> 01:08:44.369
Jake Paul reasonably ask Anthony Joshua if he

01:08:44.369 --> 01:08:49.670
has any excuses tonight? Oh, my God. See, I would

01:08:49.670 --> 01:08:53.109
be making that edit, like, as the fight happened.

01:08:55.310 --> 01:08:57.789
Oh, with editing software. That would go triple,

01:08:57.869 --> 01:09:01.590
triple platinum. Realistically, let's say Jake

01:09:01.590 --> 01:09:03.770
Paul knocks out AJ. How big of an upset would

01:09:03.770 --> 01:09:10.340
that be? The odds right now, I think it's like

01:09:10.340 --> 01:09:16.600
a minus 900 for AJ to win. The odds aren't that

01:09:16.600 --> 01:09:19.720
good because Vegas wants a lot of idiots to put

01:09:19.720 --> 01:09:24.659
their money on Jake. Makes sense. Like, if you

01:09:24.659 --> 01:09:27.180
make it attractive enough to bet on, they'll

01:09:27.180 --> 01:09:30.880
bet. Yeah, I mean... Because if you make them

01:09:30.880 --> 01:09:33.479
super wide, gamblers are going to be like, oh,

01:09:33.500 --> 01:09:35.020
it's not ever happening. They just look at the

01:09:35.020 --> 01:09:41.340
number. That's all I got to say about this fight.

01:09:41.420 --> 01:09:43.119
It's hilarious, and I hope the worst possible

01:09:43.119 --> 01:09:46.199
result happens. Well, I'm just saying, if AJ

01:09:46.199 --> 01:09:48.659
don't knock him out, I seriously got to think

01:09:48.659 --> 01:09:50.439
that's rigged. There's no way he doesn't knock

01:09:50.439 --> 01:09:54.819
him out. Come on. I'm going to list guys worse

01:09:54.819 --> 01:09:59.739
than Jake Paul. Like, probably his first 10 fights

01:09:59.739 --> 01:10:04.720
are all guys. Like, up until Kevin Johnson, all

01:10:04.720 --> 01:10:13.500
those guys are worse than Jake Paul. Eric Molina,

01:10:13.640 --> 01:10:16.119
he took three rounds to destroy Eric Molina.

01:10:16.260 --> 01:10:18.920
And Eric Molina is for sure worse than Jake Paul.

01:10:20.079 --> 01:10:22.220
Sure about that. Why is Jake Paul better than

01:10:22.220 --> 01:10:24.899
these guys? Let me ask you that. Jake Paul can

01:10:24.899 --> 01:10:29.189
throw a jab. and a cross, and a hook, and, uh,

01:10:30.310 --> 01:10:32.770
I say, like, Eric, like, Eric, are we really

01:10:32.770 --> 01:10:35.270
defending Eric Molina? Like, Alfred Molina, the

01:10:35.270 --> 01:10:39.130
actor, fights better than he does. Is, is, is,

01:10:39.130 --> 01:10:41.109
is fucking Jake Paul better than, than, than

01:10:41.109 --> 01:10:46.449
Chisora? No. But, again, like I was saying, I'm

01:10:46.449 --> 01:10:48.989
looking at guys who AJ actually fought. These

01:10:48.989 --> 01:10:55.430
are all guys that AJ fought. Same. But, this

01:10:55.430 --> 01:10:59.039
is, I just want to see it. Like, this is the

01:10:59.039 --> 01:11:02.479
circus I will be tuning in for. Oh, it's a circus,

01:11:02.500 --> 01:11:04.420
all right. I mean, honestly, this is a lot more

01:11:04.420 --> 01:11:07.140
interesting than fucking Jake versus Tank, in

01:11:07.140 --> 01:11:10.520
my opinion. Oh, yeah. Because AJ can actually

01:11:10.520 --> 01:11:17.479
kill Jake. That's crazy. God, imagine if AJ shows

01:11:17.479 --> 01:11:19.880
up looking like Eubank did for the second Ben

01:11:19.880 --> 01:11:23.189
fight. All gaunt and... There's no way he's going

01:11:23.189 --> 01:11:25.909
to be fucking careful. He just shows up looking

01:11:25.909 --> 01:11:30.010
dead, dude. I'd cry. I want to see a Vladimir

01:11:30.010 --> 01:11:32.989
Klitschko KO. Fucking where his head goes up

01:11:32.989 --> 01:11:35.649
and stretches the neck. You mean where he gets

01:11:35.649 --> 01:11:41.170
knocked down? Yeah. That was nice. I want to

01:11:41.170 --> 01:11:44.869
see some shit like that. I doubt Jake would let

01:11:44.869 --> 01:11:46.529
him off the hook like Klitschko did, though.

01:11:47.810 --> 01:11:52.859
If the fight goes like that. Boxing needs a knockout.

01:11:53.819 --> 01:11:55.979
Well, boxing needs a knockout from either one,

01:11:56.060 --> 01:12:00.880
actually. If Jake were to knock out Anthony Joshua,

01:12:01.119 --> 01:12:02.560
I think a lot of people are going to be like,

01:12:02.640 --> 01:12:04.640
holy shit. They're probably going to start actually

01:12:04.640 --> 01:12:06.720
tuning in for his fights. People are going to

01:12:06.720 --> 01:12:08.439
wake up to the fact that heavyweight kind of

01:12:08.439 --> 01:12:12.479
sucks. That or they might just say that. How

01:12:12.479 --> 01:12:16.600
many years have we been humoring heavyweights

01:12:16.600 --> 01:12:24.350
being good? I think we cope because of Usyk.

01:12:25.149 --> 01:12:30.130
Yeah, no, Usyk is good. That's why he's... I'm

01:12:30.130 --> 01:12:32.970
saying heavyweights generally, people are going

01:12:32.970 --> 01:12:35.489
to wake up to the deficiencies of the average

01:12:35.489 --> 01:12:40.930
heavyweight. Well... Finally, finally. It's only

01:12:40.930 --> 01:12:44.810
been like 40 years of the perpetual debate on

01:12:44.810 --> 01:12:47.609
whether heavyweights are good or not. Well, you

01:12:47.609 --> 01:12:49.170
have one good heavyweight and you have like a

01:12:49.170 --> 01:12:51.829
million other. Yeah, but that's the thing. A

01:12:51.829 --> 01:12:54.550
lot of people believe that generally heavyweights

01:12:54.550 --> 01:13:02.390
are good. There was the whole debate over Tyson

01:13:02.390 --> 01:13:07.550
Fury on the pound -for -pound list. Sure, he's

01:13:07.550 --> 01:13:10.649
good for heavyweight, but most of it comes from

01:13:10.649 --> 01:13:16.869
just being huge. Would Sebastian Pandora do good

01:13:16.869 --> 01:13:19.260
in another division? I don't know. I probably

01:13:19.260 --> 01:13:21.119
don't think so. Like, if you shrank him down

01:13:21.119 --> 01:13:22.960
and it was just his skills, that's the whole

01:13:22.960 --> 01:13:26.100
pound -for -pound argument. Yeah. In all honesty,

01:13:26.119 --> 01:13:27.560
Sebastian Fedora is just being saved by that

01:13:27.560 --> 01:13:31.380
matchmaking. So, like, Usyk's skill set works.

01:13:31.760 --> 01:13:34.279
Just, like, it's so obvious that it would work

01:13:34.279 --> 01:13:39.680
at, like, any size. Usyk, Crawford. But, like,

01:13:40.359 --> 01:13:43.699
guys who are like, oh, Tyson Fury, like, the

01:13:43.699 --> 01:13:45.819
heavyweights belong on pound -for -pound. They

01:13:45.819 --> 01:13:50.289
generally don't. So would you put Jake Paul higher

01:13:50.289 --> 01:13:52.369
on the pound -for -pound list than Tyson Fury

01:13:52.369 --> 01:13:56.770
for your son? You know what? If he beats Anthony

01:13:56.770 --> 01:14:01.689
Joshua by knockout, sure. I might just rate Jake

01:14:01.689 --> 01:14:04.430
Paul. I'll put him in at number 10 on my pound

01:14:04.430 --> 01:14:06.050
-for -pound list if he beats Anthony Joshua.

01:14:06.989 --> 01:14:09.689
No, he's a legend. He's a boxing legend if he

01:14:09.689 --> 01:14:12.010
does that shit. I'm just calling it right now.

01:14:12.050 --> 01:14:15.289
Oh, my God. That is so fucking legendary. I'd

01:14:15.289 --> 01:14:21.340
cry. I'd cry, actually. some shit like AJ or

01:14:21.340 --> 01:14:25.720
Jacob Wilder. Oh, my God. Literally, anything

01:14:25.720 --> 01:14:31.439
is possible. Isn't that show how much we don't

01:14:31.439 --> 01:14:38.319
believe in AJ? I don't know, man. I've watched

01:14:38.319 --> 01:14:44.060
fighters turn old overnight after less harmful

01:14:44.060 --> 01:14:49.180
performances on lesser layovers. Leo, you've

01:14:49.180 --> 01:14:50.960
been kind of a little bit silent on this. You've

01:14:50.960 --> 01:14:53.779
got to tell us your opinion, man. I'm leaning

01:14:53.779 --> 01:15:01.239
towards this can only go bad for Joshua. I'm

01:15:01.239 --> 01:15:04.220
thinking if it goes to round four or beyond,

01:15:04.520 --> 01:15:07.199
we've got to start questioning what Anthony Joshua

01:15:07.199 --> 01:15:11.899
is really doing. I don't give Jake Paul all that

01:15:11.899 --> 01:15:16.550
much chance. Non -zero, but it's not a lot. Yeah,

01:15:16.630 --> 01:15:19.569
like, it's not, it won't be Jake that wins. It's

01:15:19.569 --> 01:15:22.989
totally, like, any of the factors present in

01:15:22.989 --> 01:15:25.909
this fight conspiring. Yeah, for AJ to lose.

01:15:26.310 --> 01:15:32.630
Yeah. All right. Let me just run down the card

01:15:32.630 --> 01:15:34.390
real quick, because there's actually, like, for

01:15:34.390 --> 01:15:36.350
women's fights, this is actually pretty stacked.

01:15:36.670 --> 01:15:39.369
They're pretty good. Yeah, so moving down the

01:15:39.369 --> 01:15:43.569
bill, Alicia Baumgartner versus Leila Bodoan?

01:15:43.909 --> 01:15:47.609
I don't know. I think I got it. Uh, this is for

01:15:47.609 --> 01:15:51.390
three. Yeah. Should not have set me straight

01:15:51.390 --> 01:15:54.149
on that one too. Um, three of the four titles

01:15:54.149 --> 01:15:57.869
on the line here. Uh, Sharnika Johnson versus

01:15:57.869 --> 01:16:00.970
Amanda. Oh, I don't know if that's a double L

01:16:00.970 --> 01:16:05.229
like a Y I'm going to go with. I, okay. I don't

01:16:05.229 --> 01:16:07.510
know with a name like Amanda. I'm not sure. Yeah.

01:16:08.390 --> 01:16:10.750
But this one's for undisputed at Bantamweight.

01:16:12.069 --> 01:16:16.659
Uh, Yocasta Valle. versus Yadira Bustillos at

01:16:16.659 --> 01:16:20.880
minimum. Caroline Dubois, the WBC lightweight

01:16:20.880 --> 01:16:26.600
champion versus Camila Panata. And Avious Griffin,

01:16:26.840 --> 01:16:31.600
who just has a cool name. Anderson Silva versus

01:16:31.600 --> 01:16:38.939
Tyron Woodley. Oh, fuck. Oh, my God. Two bums,

01:16:38.939 --> 01:16:44.479
but lovingly. I'm on a... Team Spider on this

01:16:44.479 --> 01:16:47.939
one. Anderson Silva. I'm team going to get food

01:16:47.939 --> 01:16:51.939
for this one. It's listed everywhere at the bottom,

01:16:52.039 --> 01:16:55.880
so I don't know. I'm team going to go bully Isaac

01:16:55.880 --> 01:17:00.840
for getting food for this one. I'm going to be

01:17:00.840 --> 01:17:05.060
honest. I'm going to be in Seattle. I'm going

01:17:05.060 --> 01:17:08.720
to be overseas for this one. Not overseas. Fuck.

01:17:08.960 --> 01:17:12.159
Overstate. What? Yeah, I'm not gonna be... I'm

01:17:12.159 --> 01:17:13.739
gonna watch you, but I'm gonna watch you on my

01:17:13.739 --> 01:17:20.880
phone. Yeah. So, yeah, so... Legally. Actually,

01:17:20.979 --> 01:17:24.180
I can't make that joke this time. It is on Netflix.

01:17:24.739 --> 01:17:26.579
Yeah, no, I actually am gonna be watching it.

01:17:26.600 --> 01:17:29.300
Yeah. They are sucking the money out of my ass.

01:17:30.000 --> 01:17:32.859
I'll be honest. I've bought a lot of the pay

01:17:32.859 --> 01:17:37.750
-per -views this year. A lot of the major ones.

01:17:37.989 --> 01:17:40.390
Man, I paid, like, three years at DAZN back when

01:17:40.390 --> 01:17:42.270
it was new, so, like, I'm not paying for anything

01:17:42.270 --> 01:17:46.590
ever again. Yeah, that's true. Well, actually,

01:17:46.829 --> 01:17:53.130
I don't want to get flamed for this, but actually,

01:17:53.210 --> 01:17:58.050
my grandpa has a DAZN account. But the thing

01:17:58.050 --> 01:18:00.289
is that, like, it has other uses. Like, it has

01:18:00.289 --> 01:18:03.869
F1 and the NFL on it in some countries. Yeah,

01:18:03.909 --> 01:18:07.340
but my grandpa don't be watching F1. Oh, so then

01:18:07.340 --> 01:18:09.659
you're just wasting your fucking money. Yeah.

01:18:14.659 --> 01:18:19.399
That's all we got. Two bums, generally. Special

01:18:19.399 --> 01:18:22.300
edition of the Boxing B -Sides? Yeah. Cutting

01:18:22.300 --> 01:18:25.760
back to the regular programming. Yeah. Robin,

01:18:25.859 --> 01:18:36.609
come back. Sorry, Robin. The WBC Grand Prix Finals

01:18:36.609 --> 01:18:43.449
on the 20th. Fuck, I haven't been keeping up

01:18:43.449 --> 01:18:46.510
with the tournament. Have you guys been watching

01:18:46.510 --> 01:18:52.149
it? I watched Eric Bazarin get fried early on,

01:18:52.289 --> 01:18:58.949
and that was the highlight of my joy. Fucking

01:18:58.949 --> 01:19:02.369
the heavyweight final, Kevin Ramirez versus Ahmed.

01:19:03.020 --> 01:19:09.140
Kernjik. Oof. Featherweight final. Muhammad Kaumili

01:19:09.140 --> 01:19:13.979
versus Brandon Mejia. Super lightweight. Muhibilo

01:19:13.979 --> 01:19:18.340
Tusurnov versus Carlos Utrea. And middleweight's

01:19:18.340 --> 01:19:23.560
Derek Pomerleau. He's... I recognize that name.

01:19:23.640 --> 01:19:36.350
Versus Dylan Biggs. Let me see. Australian middleweight.

01:19:37.170 --> 01:19:44.069
Lost to Nikita Siu by knockout. Jesus. That's

01:19:44.069 --> 01:19:49.949
not good. Yeah. In 2023. Stopped in five rounds.

01:19:54.229 --> 01:19:57.130
His last opponent actually is a pretty entertaining

01:19:57.130 --> 01:20:01.770
name. Says here, Lancelot Proton de la Chapelle.

01:20:05.050 --> 01:20:07.930
Lancelot. That's a pretty good name. That's a

01:20:07.930 --> 01:20:13.510
pretty good name. Other than the Grand Prix Finals,

01:20:13.529 --> 01:20:18.930
there's a Salida Promotions card on DAZN. Two

01:20:18.930 --> 01:20:23.409
fighters I recognize, Michael Coffey. He's not

01:20:23.409 --> 01:20:27.409
very good heavyweight, but... Oh, yeah. I still

01:20:27.409 --> 01:20:29.890
remember when PVC tried to push him on an undercard

01:20:29.890 --> 01:20:32.229
and he got exposed almost immediately. Gotta

01:20:32.229 --> 01:20:38.810
support my boy anyway. Tony Harrison versus Brian

01:20:38.810 --> 01:20:44.850
Chavez. Tony Harrison quietly rebuilding his

01:20:44.850 --> 01:20:50.170
career. Oh yeah. That's it though. It's another

01:20:50.170 --> 01:20:54.250
light weekend. We're getting close to the end

01:20:54.250 --> 01:20:57.869
of year stuff that Japan likes to do. That stuff's

01:20:57.869 --> 01:21:01.329
gonna be good. Yeah, there's going to be some

01:21:01.329 --> 01:21:03.109
fun stuff on the Japanese side of the house,

01:21:03.170 --> 01:21:08.949
so we'll have that as it comes. But let's see

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Alright, parting words. Roblox good. I would

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hope that in the future they get better. They

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need to stop this bullshit. Who needs to get

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better? Everybody needs to get better. Refs,

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judges, everybody. Yeah. Man, we can't let the

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Saudis get ammunition or the TKO guys get ammunition

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to fuck over the sport. They're laughing at this

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shit. Oh, yeah. We're making it easy. You have

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to at least make it hard. The thing is, say what

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you will about the Saudis, they will fold under

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adversity. If Turkey's soccer team venture is

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anything to be said. But you have to give them

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the adversity. They're already starting to pull

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back, aren't they? Yeah. That's what I'm saying.

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You need, like, they're starting to make concerns

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about profit and everything. You just need to,

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like, don't give. You just have to push. Before,

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they would have fucking, how many fights on the

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card? Now they only have four. Yeah. You know?

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Yeah, they don't have any stack top to bottom.

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They don't have any M &M walkouts. No crazy promos

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anymore. That's the one thing I really liked

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about the Saudis was the promos. They stopped

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with Ryan Garcia. We'll see. We'll see what happens.

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Well, it's another light weekend, so I'm going

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to suggest going outside. Yep. Enjoy the snow

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or the sun, depending on where you are. Pro Box

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is on Thursday, and so you got a good free weekend

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here. Again, both of these cards, the Grand Prix

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Finals and the Salida card, they're both on DAZN.

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DAZN will be there when you get back. Yeah, go

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outside. If you can do other things, fucking

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do other things. This is not a weekend to lock

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yourself up to watch. Watch Box. Mediocre Box.

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Alright. On that grim note, that's it for this

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edition of the Boxing B -Sides. We'll fucking

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see you on the other side when we're getting

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more excited for the end of the year. Fucking

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trophies.