WEBVTT 00:00:00.779 --> 00:00:04.200 The B -Side in boxing. B -Side shit. B -Side. 00:00:04.280 --> 00:00:06.820 B -Side. And the B -Side. You got a B -Side. 00:00:06.900 --> 00:00:10.400 The B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. The B 00:00:10.400 --> 00:00:13.779 -Side thing. This is the B -Sides Boxing Podcast. 00:00:19.679 --> 00:00:29.379 Alright. Holy shit. The Boxing B -Sides are back. 00:00:30.839 --> 00:00:34.859 Joined by the one and only Saul. What's up, guys? 00:00:35.000 --> 00:00:37.539 Glad to be back after a fucking nice holiday 00:00:37.539 --> 00:00:40.899 break. Yeah, we got the... How was your guys' 00:00:40.899 --> 00:00:43.399 holidays, by the way? Let me ask you that. Oh, 00:00:43.399 --> 00:00:47.539 yeah. How was your guys' holidays? Uh, it wasn't 00:00:47.539 --> 00:00:51.159 a holiday for Josh. Nope. Oh, that's right. I 00:00:51.159 --> 00:00:54.140 forgot his dude's part Canadian. Canadian. Yeah, 00:00:54.159 --> 00:01:00.200 they're in October. Yeah. Oh, shit, man. We got 00:01:00.200 --> 00:01:02.359 a lot of stuff to catch up on, so let's fucking 00:01:02.359 --> 00:01:08.000 kick it off here. So, your heartbroken Johnny 00:01:08.000 --> 00:01:14.680 Beck. Yeah. Johnny Beck, he broke my heart. I'm 00:01:14.680 --> 00:01:17.439 not going to lie. That hurt really bad. And honestly, 00:01:17.620 --> 00:01:19.920 it kind of, the whole card was cursed, but with 00:01:19.920 --> 00:01:23.239 Johnny Beck, dude, Jesus Christ, to see him pop 00:01:23.239 --> 00:01:26.500 for, what is it, a month? I can't even say it's 00:01:26.500 --> 00:01:30.719 some Russian drug. Come on, dude. In the immortal 00:01:30.719 --> 00:01:33.340 words of Janabek in about three weeks once he 00:01:33.340 --> 00:01:37.879 starts working fast food, would you like fries 00:01:37.879 --> 00:01:42.579 with that, sir? I'm going to be honest, dude. 00:01:43.319 --> 00:01:46.500 That killed my whole article. I told last time 00:01:46.500 --> 00:01:48.340 that I was going to have an article out, and 00:01:48.340 --> 00:01:51.620 a lot of it was praising Janabek, and it's kind 00:01:51.620 --> 00:01:53.239 of shit, so I had to redo the whole article. 00:01:53.870 --> 00:01:56.269 I gotta say, this is why I focus on, like, recent, 00:01:56.390 --> 00:02:00.390 recent. Like, if I can get it out, like, on something 00:02:00.390 --> 00:02:03.890 that just happened, it's way easier to either 00:02:03.890 --> 00:02:06.230 be right or wrong and then have that be your 00:02:06.230 --> 00:02:09.770 take than, like, letting something age. Yeah, 00:02:09.789 --> 00:02:15.430 well. It aged like milk. It was fucking... Aged 00:02:15.430 --> 00:02:17.469 like milk. It was fucking horrible. For my first 00:02:17.469 --> 00:02:19.050 article, this is my first time, so, you know. 00:02:20.409 --> 00:02:25.460 Forever is not cool. I might still release it. 00:02:25.520 --> 00:02:27.599 Leo went on a pilgrimage and you still can't 00:02:27.599 --> 00:02:30.340 get that article out. No, I was waiting for Leo 00:02:30.340 --> 00:02:32.520 to come back so I could have him publish it. 00:02:33.219 --> 00:02:35.460 And then that shit happened. I was like, okay, 00:02:35.460 --> 00:02:38.060 bro. It aged. Yeah. It aged. Oh, yeah, it aged. 00:02:38.439 --> 00:02:40.240 But I'll tell you this, and we'll get into it 00:02:40.240 --> 00:02:42.560 right now. Janet Beck would have fucking murdered 00:02:42.560 --> 00:02:46.199 Lara. Who knows? Maybe without the steroids, 00:02:46.340 --> 00:02:48.800 it's a little more competitive. Yeah. That's 00:02:48.800 --> 00:02:50.900 the weird thing about it. That fucking substance 00:02:50.900 --> 00:02:54.139 that he popped for, like, there's no conclusive 00:02:54.139 --> 00:02:58.300 evidence of, like, actual benefits. You know 00:02:58.300 --> 00:03:00.419 what I mean? No, like, he's just taking super 00:03:00.419 --> 00:03:04.259 soldier serum for nothing. Yeah. For a little 00:03:04.259 --> 00:03:09.240 benefit. Just for fun, man. Fucking Janabek, 00:03:09.280 --> 00:03:12.659 man. I fucking... That killed me. It killed the 00:03:12.659 --> 00:03:16.539 car for me. Oh, man. 160 forever doomed. Yeah. 00:03:18.800 --> 00:03:22.759 Other weird testing news. Subreal Matias tested 00:03:22.759 --> 00:03:26.419 positive for, what was it, Osterine? Osterine. 00:03:26.879 --> 00:03:30.120 The Ryan Garcia special. Like a fraction of a 00:03:30.120 --> 00:03:34.620 picogram instead of Ryan Garcia's blood having 00:03:34.620 --> 00:03:40.319 more Osterine than white blood cells in it. That 00:03:40.319 --> 00:03:42.719 was weird, though, how they just kind of dismissed 00:03:42.719 --> 00:03:45.340 it. Because I thought Austrian was one of those 00:03:45.340 --> 00:03:47.819 things that's like a no acceptable levels kind 00:03:47.819 --> 00:03:50.500 of testing. Yeah, it turns out there's acceptable 00:03:50.500 --> 00:03:53.580 levels. Yeah, apparently. It's for recovery, 00:03:53.840 --> 00:03:57.280 primarily, to my knowledge. But they can only 00:03:57.280 --> 00:03:59.800 go up to a certain level, though. So they can 00:03:59.800 --> 00:04:05.280 have some in their system. It's mainly for tainting 00:04:05.280 --> 00:04:12.060 to my awareness. What, it's a masking agent? 00:04:12.259 --> 00:04:15.020 Like, it can be in tainted supplements. Oh, I 00:04:15.020 --> 00:04:20.540 see. So that's why there's some allowance. Because, 00:04:20.740 --> 00:04:23.860 like, it can faintly present itself in over -the 00:04:23.860 --> 00:04:27.519 -counter supplements and stuff. So Ryan Garcia 00:04:27.519 --> 00:04:30.319 was... Ryan Garcia was straight -up juicing. 00:04:30.399 --> 00:04:33.620 He had way, like, again, more ostrein than white 00:04:33.620 --> 00:04:36.079 blood cells. So basically, he beat Devin Haney. 00:04:36.360 --> 00:04:40.939 And Devin Haney sucks. Yeah. I'm playing. I'm 00:04:40.939 --> 00:04:45.100 playing. I'm sorry. Actually, he was framed. 00:04:46.740 --> 00:04:53.699 He was framed by Big Al. Was it Shakur Stevenson 00:04:53.699 --> 00:04:56.279 planted that in his camp, just like he poisoned 00:04:56.279 --> 00:04:59.560 Floyd Schofield? They're always blaming the boy. 00:05:02.240 --> 00:05:08.240 All right. Three fights ordered by the WBC. Ben 00:05:08.240 --> 00:05:11.939 Whittaker versus Joshua Boazzi. I'm not sure 00:05:11.939 --> 00:05:13.579 how to feel about this, because Ben Whittaker 00:05:13.579 --> 00:05:17.500 seems to have reformed. It's not quite his old 00:05:17.500 --> 00:05:21.439 dancing Emmanuel Augustus self. Magically gained 00:05:21.439 --> 00:05:25.480 some punching power. Since he switched. That 00:05:25.480 --> 00:05:31.339 was a hair special, I'll tell you that. All these 00:05:31.339 --> 00:05:32.579 rankings, we'll get into right now, but all these 00:05:32.579 --> 00:05:35.439 rankings were bullshit. Yeah, it's a pretty average 00:05:35.439 --> 00:05:38.970 going for the belts. Yeah. I mean, at the same 00:05:38.970 --> 00:05:43.250 time, 175 is not the deepest division, but to 00:05:43.250 --> 00:05:46.290 re -rank that high without fighting any good 00:05:46.290 --> 00:05:49.350 fighters, that's ridiculous. If he fought Joshua 00:05:49.350 --> 00:05:51.790 Boassi, I would understand. And he beat him, 00:05:51.810 --> 00:05:54.170 I would understand that ranking, but that's some 00:05:54.170 --> 00:06:00.610 bullshit. Mbili vs Shiraz. This one was disappointing. 00:06:00.889 --> 00:06:03.470 I was really expecting the Lester Martinez rematch. 00:06:03.870 --> 00:06:08.160 Yeah. I think it's going to be to Lester's benefit, 00:06:08.459 --> 00:06:11.819 question mark, because someone else is going 00:06:11.819 --> 00:06:13.459 to have to take a chance on him in the division, 00:06:13.600 --> 00:06:18.680 and I have faith in Lester to continue improving, 00:06:18.959 --> 00:06:21.220 as coachable as he is and as good as his coaching 00:06:21.220 --> 00:06:24.300 is. Well, honestly, with this fight itself, I 00:06:24.300 --> 00:06:26.600 was disappointed with the fact that fucking Shiraz 00:06:26.600 --> 00:06:30.000 beat Berlanga, and that gives him a shot, a vacant 00:06:30.000 --> 00:06:33.379 title shot? Are you kidding me? Like, what the 00:06:33.379 --> 00:06:37.060 fuck? Is it vacant? Yeah, because Terrence Crawford 00:06:37.060 --> 00:06:41.180 got stripped. Yeah, they stripped my boy. And 00:06:41.180 --> 00:06:43.540 it's like, we'll get into that more right now, 00:06:43.620 --> 00:06:46.699 but it's like, are you fucking kidding me? Shiraz 00:06:46.699 --> 00:06:49.560 has done nothing to the division. I don't mind 00:06:49.560 --> 00:06:51.959 the division getting a move on instead of everyone 00:06:51.959 --> 00:06:55.040 waiting for their stimulus check, though. Yes, 00:06:55.040 --> 00:06:58.720 but why does Shiraz deserve... It should have 00:06:58.720 --> 00:07:00.839 been Lester. It should have absolutely been Lester, 00:07:00.879 --> 00:07:04.279 but I also don't mind Shiraz Lester as soon as 00:07:04.279 --> 00:07:08.259 Mbili loses to Shiraz. You think Shiraz beats 00:07:08.259 --> 00:07:12.600 him? I disagree with that. The thing is, if Shiraz 00:07:12.600 --> 00:07:17.379 can... The way Adamas fought him is not a way 00:07:17.379 --> 00:07:22.699 that Mbili could fight him. I'm saying I have 00:07:22.699 --> 00:07:27.509 more faith in Shiraz to be able to... keep Mbili 00:07:27.509 --> 00:07:29.750 at a distance, especially because Mbili is a 00:07:29.750 --> 00:07:33.709 very one -paced guy, than I do for Mbili to really 00:07:33.709 --> 00:07:37.350 get through it without anything coming back at 00:07:37.350 --> 00:07:44.350 him. I disagree. I think that Mbili... Oh, I'm 00:07:44.350 --> 00:07:46.110 not surprised if Mbili just beats him up and 00:07:46.110 --> 00:07:49.990 Shiraz is a lot worse than we thought. I don't 00:07:49.990 --> 00:07:53.060 think I'm that highly already. But seeing how 00:07:53.060 --> 00:07:55.560 Adamas fought him, I don't think Mbili can fight 00:07:55.560 --> 00:07:58.319 him the same way. Oh, definitely not. Yeah, two 00:07:58.319 --> 00:08:01.139 totally different skill sets. Yeah, like Mbili's 00:08:01.139 --> 00:08:05.399 so one pace that I think, like, it won't be pretty 00:08:05.399 --> 00:08:09.819 at all, but Shiraz can absolutely beat Mbili. 00:08:10.639 --> 00:08:14.459 I think it'll be a tough fight, but I think Adamas 00:08:14.459 --> 00:08:17.279 had the, like we said, the advantage. I still 00:08:17.279 --> 00:08:19.300 think Mbili has a better chance of winning than 00:08:19.300 --> 00:08:22.569 some of the other... contenders in the division. 00:08:23.069 --> 00:08:26.189 Honestly, I think I might get flamed for this, 00:08:26.189 --> 00:08:28.410 but at this point, I think someone like Munguia 00:08:28.410 --> 00:08:32.070 loses to Shiraz. Okay, but that's because Munguia's 00:08:32.070 --> 00:08:36.490 chin has been fried by Siraz. He's also got negative 00:08:36.490 --> 00:08:46.970 in the fight style. Yeah. I think it's ultimately 00:08:46.970 --> 00:08:50.370 good for the division to get it moving. 100%. 00:08:50.370 --> 00:08:53.210 Oh, yeah, 100%. We always wanted Tokawa to vacate 00:08:53.210 --> 00:08:55.029 the titles. That's what we needed. I was expecting 00:08:55.029 --> 00:08:57.190 him to the whole time. Yeah, I was expecting 00:08:57.190 --> 00:08:59.230 him to step away and just take whatever fights 00:08:59.230 --> 00:09:01.230 he wanted. You know, the belts don't matter, 00:09:01.309 --> 00:09:03.990 but he can win the belts off, guys. Yeah, 100%, 00:09:03.990 --> 00:09:06.690 yeah. That's the thing, is that the whole fucking 00:09:06.690 --> 00:09:09.889 assault thing with the belts right now, it's 00:09:09.889 --> 00:09:11.789 giving the Saudis a lot of ammo, and it's pissing 00:09:11.789 --> 00:09:14.490 me off. Yeah, the Saudis were always going to 00:09:14.490 --> 00:09:16.090 have ammo when this stuff happened, just because, 00:09:16.169 --> 00:09:18.929 like... Like, it was so obvious they were going 00:09:18.929 --> 00:09:21.110 to use a guy as a tool to... But that's the next 00:09:21.110 --> 00:09:23.110 thing. They're going to use a guy as a tool to 00:09:23.110 --> 00:09:25.210 undermine confidence in the belts because boxing 00:09:25.210 --> 00:09:30.490 fans are... Literacy is not high among them. 00:09:32.389 --> 00:09:35.389 Yeah, well... We'll see what happens. Really 00:09:35.389 --> 00:09:39.549 quickly, is this one... Let's use Saul's term, 00:09:39.730 --> 00:09:44.450 bull jive? The Tom Alcoly announcement? Oh, my 00:09:44.450 --> 00:09:47.269 God. That one's kind of... That one, I can't 00:09:47.269 --> 00:09:51.330 defend as much. I don't even understand it. Someone 00:09:51.330 --> 00:09:53.049 needs to explain that one to me. I can't even 00:09:53.049 --> 00:09:56.529 fathom that. I understand Akuli being a highly 00:09:56.529 --> 00:09:58.909 ranked guy from another division. You want to 00:09:58.909 --> 00:10:01.529 get rid of him. And it basically... If Itama 00:10:01.529 --> 00:10:03.750 beats him promotionally, it's he beat a respected 00:10:03.750 --> 00:10:07.470 former world champ, whatever, right? But it's 00:10:07.470 --> 00:10:10.289 such a trap fight for someone who wants Itama 00:10:10.289 --> 00:10:14.830 to develop. Because it's not that Akoli is any 00:10:14.830 --> 00:10:16.970 good. It's that the risk is always there for 00:10:16.970 --> 00:10:20.269 him to just spoil and fuck it up. He's such a 00:10:20.269 --> 00:10:21.889 negative fighter. Yeah, negative fighter. I was 00:10:21.889 --> 00:10:26.029 just thinking that. I saw on the Discord someone 00:10:26.029 --> 00:10:30.649 say that Rancis Bartholomew has a passive that 00:10:30.649 --> 00:10:35.409 lowers the opponent's punch output. And Akoli 00:10:35.409 --> 00:10:38.750 has a similar thing where the punch output is 00:10:38.750 --> 00:10:41.070 just decimated when you fight him because of... 00:10:41.559 --> 00:10:45.440 He's just going to grab you. Yeah, but you know 00:10:45.440 --> 00:10:48.299 what? If Itama could knock out Okoli and make 00:10:48.299 --> 00:10:51.259 a statement, that would be good. Oh, absolutely. 00:10:54.019 --> 00:10:57.799 It's very like, finally we're rid of Okoli. You 00:10:57.799 --> 00:11:02.639 are the savior of this division. But also, it's 00:11:02.639 --> 00:11:05.440 such a trap fight for a young guy who might not 00:11:05.440 --> 00:11:09.799 have the experience to get rid of a super negative 00:11:09.799 --> 00:11:13.179 guy. I think he has the experience. I think he'll 00:11:13.179 --> 00:11:15.679 beat him pretty soundly. I honestly think he'll 00:11:15.679 --> 00:11:17.840 knock him out, too, pretty... I would say before 00:11:17.840 --> 00:11:20.759 round six. I have hope that he can. I just, like, 00:11:20.799 --> 00:11:24.960 don't be surprised if we're in round eight and 00:11:24.960 --> 00:11:27.580 there's three punches being thrown between them. 00:11:27.840 --> 00:11:33.500 Yeah. Like, pit bull shit. Don't be surprised, 00:11:34.059 --> 00:11:39.960 you know? See what happens. But I don't get... 00:11:41.080 --> 00:11:42.820 I don't like it being made before he even gets 00:11:42.820 --> 00:11:47.360 past Franklin, though. No, yeah, that's really... 00:11:47.360 --> 00:11:50.080 As much as we know that Tom is going to win that 00:11:50.080 --> 00:11:52.159 one, I mean, come on. Anything could happen. 00:11:52.700 --> 00:11:56.980 Yeah, like the turkey curse is aptly made because 00:11:56.980 --> 00:11:59.440 we're making fights three steps ahead and then 00:11:59.440 --> 00:12:01.539 you throw in a banana peel in there for no reason. 00:12:02.259 --> 00:12:05.679 If we get Jermaine Franklin and Lawrence Cole, 00:12:05.759 --> 00:12:09.399 I might just fucking kill myself. Oh, Heavyweight's 00:12:09.399 --> 00:12:15.399 so dead if we get that shit. I wonder how they 00:12:15.399 --> 00:12:20.779 would fucking market that. You don't. I think 00:12:20.779 --> 00:12:22.720 Bob might just kill himself too. You throw it 00:12:22.720 --> 00:12:25.299 on the undercard of some bullshit and then forget 00:12:25.299 --> 00:12:28.100 about it. Put it in like the 5v5 or some shit. 00:12:28.539 --> 00:12:33.620 Yeah, literally. Everything's bullshit. All this 00:12:33.620 --> 00:12:36.360 ranking WBC is all bullshit. I don't get it. 00:12:36.639 --> 00:12:39.210 You know? But it's whatever. That's just politics. 00:12:39.529 --> 00:12:41.450 Boxing. Unfortunately, that's what we got to 00:12:41.450 --> 00:12:43.629 deal with. We don't like the Saudis, but we really 00:12:43.629 --> 00:12:45.090 don't. We don't like the fucking rankings, but 00:12:45.090 --> 00:12:47.710 we definitely don't like the fucking monopolization 00:12:47.710 --> 00:12:51.950 of the sport, you know? Speaking of bullshit, 00:12:52.169 --> 00:12:57.169 WBC strips Terrence Crawford. Holy shit. You 00:12:57.169 --> 00:13:03.769 don't pay your fees. This is what I've gathered. 00:13:03.870 --> 00:13:06.769 I didn't follow the whole story. like on Twitter 00:13:06.769 --> 00:13:11.490 or anything, but it was that the other sanctioning 00:13:11.490 --> 00:13:15.769 bodies have like fixed percentages that they 00:13:15.769 --> 00:13:18.929 take off of the purse and WBC doesn't have that. 00:13:18.950 --> 00:13:23.690 And they were asking for like a lot more. Well, 00:13:23.789 --> 00:13:26.769 they said it was 0 .06%, which was 300 ,000, 00:13:26.769 --> 00:13:30.129 which is still half the amount, but I don't know. 00:13:30.129 --> 00:13:32.129 This was, this was, uh, what's the, what's the 00:13:32.129 --> 00:13:34.730 word? Uh, I think they were planning to fucking 00:13:34.730 --> 00:13:36.730 not even pay him at all. Because they already 00:13:36.730 --> 00:13:39.529 came out with merch immediately about, oh, fuck 00:13:39.529 --> 00:13:40.909 the belt. What did they say in the merch was? 00:13:41.509 --> 00:13:46.590 I am the belts? Yeah. I will say this is something 00:13:46.590 --> 00:13:48.629 that is bigger than Crawford because, again, 00:13:49.970 --> 00:13:55.450 this is basically a play against the belts existing 00:13:55.450 --> 00:14:03.990 by the Saudis. Yeah, that's what the... So obvious. 00:14:04.370 --> 00:14:10.750 Yeah, they're trying to see the cracks in the 00:14:10.750 --> 00:14:16.049 facade of boxing so that TKO has ammunition for 00:14:16.049 --> 00:14:22.590 the Ali Reform Act. Yeah. From the Crawford perspective, 00:14:22.950 --> 00:14:27.470 I think it's a little crazy that now he's bigger 00:14:27.470 --> 00:14:32.250 than the belts. when the only reason he basically 00:14:32.250 --> 00:14:35.190 posed for anyone to care about him was, oh, I 00:14:35.190 --> 00:14:39.549 had the belts. Yeah, that's a little interesting. 00:14:39.929 --> 00:14:41.570 Like, it's a little interesting. He was always 00:14:41.570 --> 00:14:44.350 like, oh, I had the belts at this division, and 00:14:44.350 --> 00:14:46.350 the belts at this division, the belts, the belts, 00:14:46.409 --> 00:14:47.750 the belts, and it's never... Victor Wollster 00:14:47.750 --> 00:14:50.870 wasn't elite. And then as soon as he fights, 00:14:50.950 --> 00:14:55.480 as soon as he finds himself... at a juncture 00:14:55.480 --> 00:14:58.399 where, like, okay, now people care about him 00:14:58.399 --> 00:15:00.559 for him. Oh, now it's the belts don't matter. 00:15:02.320 --> 00:15:05.539 When the whole reason to fight him previously 00:15:05.539 --> 00:15:12.539 was belts, belts, belts. Yeah, I mean... That's 00:15:12.539 --> 00:15:13.980 the reason why he fought Canelo, was to become 00:15:13.980 --> 00:15:15.980 undisputed. The belts matter, obviously, to him. 00:15:15.980 --> 00:15:17.720 Yeah, the belts clearly matter, because, like, 00:15:17.740 --> 00:15:19.879 again, like, why did he fight Spence? To become 00:15:19.879 --> 00:15:23.519 undisputed. Yeah, that's fucking... This is ridiculous. 00:15:24.159 --> 00:15:30.120 Oh, Crawford, man. He's a chowdy show. It's just 00:15:30.120 --> 00:15:35.179 like, again, inside the ring, Crawford is like 00:15:35.179 --> 00:15:38.139 a must -watch. Great. Outside the ring, holy 00:15:38.139 --> 00:15:43.379 shit, dude. You needed a manager from the start, 00:15:43.440 --> 00:15:48.200 and he could have been so much more. And that's 00:15:48.200 --> 00:15:52.120 saying how good Crawford is, that this is a disappointment 00:15:52.120 --> 00:15:54.320 in terms of the fact that he has two notable 00:15:54.320 --> 00:16:01.200 wins. Like, that's the type of standard we have 00:16:01.200 --> 00:16:04.299 for him, that this ends up being a disappointment. 00:16:05.259 --> 00:16:06.860 I mean, that's why you fought Magibob. You want 00:16:06.860 --> 00:16:08.659 to be a champion. That's how you're a champion. 00:16:08.700 --> 00:16:11.019 Otherwise, it means shit. Yeah, like, you fight 00:16:11.019 --> 00:16:12.820 the guys with the belts because the belts matter, 00:16:13.039 --> 00:16:16.909 not, uh... Oh, the belts don't matter as soon 00:16:16.909 --> 00:16:19.889 as they're inconvenient to me. Otherwise, you're 00:16:19.889 --> 00:16:21.470 gonna have fucking Abel Mendoza calling themselves 00:16:21.470 --> 00:16:24.889 the fucking... Yeah, like, what the... What the... 00:16:24.889 --> 00:16:28.549 The quandary of, like, how much the belts should 00:16:28.549 --> 00:16:30.529 be charging, what they use it for is separate. 00:16:31.870 --> 00:16:34.809 That's a separate discussion from this. Because 00:16:34.809 --> 00:16:36.629 when you merge the discussions, you end up playing 00:16:36.629 --> 00:16:39.850 into the Saudis' hands, you know? But in regards 00:16:39.850 --> 00:16:46.100 to strictly, um... like Crawford here like you 00:16:46.100 --> 00:16:49.940 have played you basically have agreed to the 00:16:49.940 --> 00:16:53.539 terms of the belt your entire career and now 00:16:53.539 --> 00:16:57.120 that you think you're bigger than the belts even 00:16:57.120 --> 00:16:59.500 though you literally just fought purely for belts 00:16:59.500 --> 00:17:05.599 by the way now it's uh it's a whole issue with 00:17:05.599 --> 00:17:10.279 uh you're pinching pennies because you're bigger 00:17:10.279 --> 00:17:14.690 than the belts and it's uh I don't know. It's 00:17:14.690 --> 00:17:21.269 not... It's just not a good discussion to be 00:17:21.269 --> 00:17:25.990 having at this time because you end up devaluing 00:17:25.990 --> 00:17:30.230 yourself a lot if you're Crawford. Who the fuck 00:17:30.230 --> 00:17:32.950 is going to buy that merch too? Like, really? 00:17:34.549 --> 00:17:39.490 If we're going to save the belt... Yeah, that's 00:17:39.490 --> 00:17:41.089 the thing. They have merch and they're coming 00:17:41.089 --> 00:17:43.519 out with it. It's just like, I'm the belts or 00:17:43.519 --> 00:17:47.180 something like that. Like, if we're going to 00:17:47.180 --> 00:17:50.019 say the belts are worthless, the belts are whatever, 00:17:50.299 --> 00:17:53.220 like, why are you fighting, like, Hank Lundy? 00:17:54.940 --> 00:17:58.279 Yeah. Or Thomas DeLorme is who we beat. Thomas 00:17:58.279 --> 00:18:00.039 DeLorme. Why are you fighting Thomas DeLorme 00:18:00.039 --> 00:18:03.019 if the belts don't matter and you only want the 00:18:03.019 --> 00:18:05.920 best of the best of the best? Ricky Burns, baby. 00:18:06.819 --> 00:18:12.190 Yeah, like, come on. Ricky Burns. The belts clearly 00:18:12.190 --> 00:18:16.250 matter. Like at 147, his whole claim at 147 was, 00:18:16.369 --> 00:18:18.250 oh, Spence ain't the best because he doesn't 00:18:18.250 --> 00:18:19.950 have all the belts. I have the belt. He needs 00:18:19.950 --> 00:18:24.190 me. No, it don't matter. That's why you vote 00:18:24.190 --> 00:18:28.690 Magimov. Yeah, the belt. Because there was a 00:18:28.690 --> 00:18:33.470 fucking belt there. Easy title opportunity. Okay, 00:18:33.589 --> 00:18:37.329 you move up. You're undisputed or whatever at 00:18:37.329 --> 00:18:43.299 140. No, he's missing the WBA. Okay, whatever. 00:18:43.460 --> 00:18:46.019 You move up to 147. Why is your first fight at 00:18:46.019 --> 00:18:52.440 147 Jeff Horn? You don't horny? It's because 00:18:52.440 --> 00:18:54.559 of the belt. He has a belt. Oh, that's right. 00:18:54.599 --> 00:18:57.539 He had Rob Pacquiao, right? Yeah, but he had 00:18:57.539 --> 00:18:59.640 the belt. Because, like, otherwise, like, yeah, 00:18:59.660 --> 00:19:02.680 so... So, again, like, Crawford has built his 00:19:02.680 --> 00:19:05.819 career on collecting these belts. And the thing 00:19:05.819 --> 00:19:08.720 is that there's guys who... clearly outgrow the 00:19:08.720 --> 00:19:10.880 belts, I don't think he's there because the fights 00:19:10.880 --> 00:19:17.180 he's shopping for are still belts. Like, especially, 00:19:17.420 --> 00:19:19.299 like, I don't think he'd ever consider fighting. 00:19:19.380 --> 00:19:21.099 He's not going to fight Janabek now that Janabek 00:19:21.099 --> 00:19:25.079 doesn't have that fucking strap. Yeah, he's not 00:19:25.079 --> 00:19:27.039 going to. Well, not yet. We don't know if they're 00:19:27.039 --> 00:19:28.740 going to strip him yet. They probably are. But 00:19:28.740 --> 00:19:31.240 like, if he ends up getting stripped of both 00:19:31.240 --> 00:19:33.960 of his belts, Crawford's not going to fight him. 00:19:34.240 --> 00:19:36.519 Yeah, Janabek is essentially worthless at that 00:19:36.519 --> 00:19:39.359 point. Yeah. That whole division is worthless 00:19:39.359 --> 00:19:40.920 at that point because now you can't fight. I 00:19:40.920 --> 00:19:43.900 doubt that Lara and Janabek are going to fight. 00:19:43.900 --> 00:19:46.740 The whole point was Lara and Janabek were going 00:19:46.740 --> 00:19:49.079 to fight and unify. Crawford was probably going 00:19:49.079 --> 00:19:52.359 to fight Adamas and then unify with the winner. 00:19:53.859 --> 00:19:57.400 Because the timing is a little convenient. The 00:19:57.400 --> 00:20:00.039 Janabek pops. The unification can't happen anymore. 00:20:02.190 --> 00:20:04.829 And now Crawford throws a fit about the WBC. 00:20:05.230 --> 00:20:12.009 It's Adamas who he would fight at middleweight. 00:20:13.130 --> 00:20:16.950 You put on your temple hat for this one? I just 00:20:16.950 --> 00:20:20.789 think Crawford's plans got derailed for his sunset 00:20:20.789 --> 00:20:25.250 ending of going undisputed at middleweight. He 00:20:25.250 --> 00:20:28.549 got a little liquored up, hopped on Twitter, 00:20:28.650 --> 00:20:32.450 and threw a fit. Honestly, I guess it could still 00:20:32.450 --> 00:20:34.549 happen. He could fight for the IVF. If they don't 00:20:34.549 --> 00:20:36.289 strip Janabek, he could fight Janabek first. 00:20:36.589 --> 00:20:39.549 And then fight Adames or Lara in edification. 00:20:40.089 --> 00:20:44.369 That's three fights, and Janabek is going to 00:20:44.369 --> 00:20:48.289 command even less money now. That's the same 00:20:48.289 --> 00:20:50.210 amount of fights as if he would have fought Adames 00:20:50.210 --> 00:20:52.349 and then Janabek. He fights Janabek first, then 00:20:52.349 --> 00:20:54.170 Adames and then Lara. It's going to be one, two, 00:20:54.190 --> 00:20:56.470 three. I don't think Lara -Janabek ends up happening. 00:20:57.430 --> 00:21:00.509 No, I don't think so. If he still fights Janabek, 00:21:01.079 --> 00:21:03.720 And then Adami's and then Lara Unify. That's 00:21:03.720 --> 00:21:07.819 still possible. It's possible, but... I doubt 00:21:07.819 --> 00:21:11.480 Lara and Adami's are going to Unify. Yeah, because 00:21:11.480 --> 00:21:13.700 like Lara fights once a year. So now you're going 00:21:13.700 --> 00:21:15.700 to wait a whole year for a chance to dislodge 00:21:15.700 --> 00:21:19.839 that belt. I don't know. I mean, they've had 00:21:19.839 --> 00:21:21.859 the belts for fucking how long? How long has 00:21:21.859 --> 00:21:23.579 Adami's and Lara held the belts? Since like, 00:21:23.640 --> 00:21:30.210 what, 2023? For Lara? Or for Adami's? Adamas 00:21:30.210 --> 00:21:33.670 has had it for a minute. Yeah. Lara's had it 00:21:33.670 --> 00:21:37.089 for a minute as well. Lara picked it up. I think 00:21:37.089 --> 00:21:49.710 after Triple G in 2022. Fuck, when did he pick 00:21:49.710 --> 00:21:53.029 it up again? I think it was after Triple G vacated. 00:21:53.329 --> 00:21:56.769 June of 24 is when Adamas got the full title. 00:21:57.910 --> 00:22:00.930 You're not 24, really. Yeah, he had the interim 00:22:00.930 --> 00:22:11.349 since like 2022. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. Well, 00:22:11.410 --> 00:22:15.250 anything more for Terrence Crawford and his crash 00:22:15.250 --> 00:22:21.049 out? Man, shut the fuck up. Yeah, like this guy, 00:22:21.230 --> 00:22:26.390 like shut up and fight someone, please. No, I'm 00:22:26.390 --> 00:22:30.950 joking, but you can't be saying that shit. That's 00:22:30.950 --> 00:22:32.730 going to not ruin your career, but that's going 00:22:32.730 --> 00:22:34.750 to really downplay your achievements if you say 00:22:34.750 --> 00:22:36.470 the belts don't fucking matter. Yeah, because 00:22:36.470 --> 00:22:38.650 all his achievements are entirely belt -based. 00:22:39.509 --> 00:22:45.490 Yeah. 140 and 147. And then... Free Spence. Free 00:22:45.490 --> 00:22:48.529 Spence and Porter, I would say. Oh, yeah. Like 00:22:48.529 --> 00:22:50.329 I was going to say, it's all belt -based. No 00:22:50.329 --> 00:22:52.809 one's going to say he's top pound -for -pound 00:22:52.809 --> 00:22:56.329 great for beating Ricky Burns. As much legwork 00:22:56.329 --> 00:23:00.809 as the gift wants to do. Yeah. You're not getting 00:23:00.809 --> 00:23:02.470 in the Hall of Fame off of beating Ricky Burns. 00:23:03.930 --> 00:23:06.009 It's like at that point, then you're really downplaying 00:23:06.009 --> 00:23:10.349 a lot of champions, their legacy, you know? It's 00:23:10.349 --> 00:23:12.970 like Pacquiao, he was a fucking multi -division 00:23:12.970 --> 00:23:15.769 champion. He's a legend. Yeah, what the fuck, 00:23:15.789 --> 00:23:17.650 if the belts don't matter, you know, what the 00:23:17.650 --> 00:23:21.710 fuck, you know what I mean? Yeah. So, it's our 00:23:21.710 --> 00:23:27.190 suit piece. All right. We're going to go into 00:23:27.190 --> 00:23:33.430 the Wayback Machine. Fucking... Connor Ben and 00:23:33.430 --> 00:23:37.269 Eubank Jr. card. Oh, Christ, I forgot this one 00:23:37.269 --> 00:23:40.089 happened already. Yeah. It's been that long, 00:23:40.190 --> 00:23:46.349 huh? It has been. Jesus Christ. Dude, it looks 00:23:46.349 --> 00:23:50.950 kind of silly on TV, but when you're there, Sweet 00:23:50.950 --> 00:23:54.569 Caroline's pretty fun. It's fun? Yeah, it was 00:23:54.569 --> 00:23:58.490 pretty fun. That's right, you had the fight. 00:23:59.029 --> 00:24:03.130 How was the 50 cent walkout? That was the hypest 00:24:03.130 --> 00:24:06.950 part. That was pretty cool. It was pretty damn 00:24:06.950 --> 00:24:10.109 cool. That's the part I cared about. Watching 00:24:10.109 --> 00:24:12.670 it on the stream, that must have been pretty 00:24:12.670 --> 00:24:16.609 sick to be in person. Yeah, I wasn't too far 00:24:16.609 --> 00:24:21.650 from the tunnel. So I got to see them coming 00:24:21.650 --> 00:24:26.200 out. That's cool as fuck. That's heat. That's 00:24:26.200 --> 00:24:29.140 heat. That was probably the best part of the 00:24:29.140 --> 00:24:38.579 fight. Man. Let's go just really quickly. Mikey 00:24:38.579 --> 00:24:44.480 Talon KO5 over Faison Shahid. Richard Reakpour 00:24:44.480 --> 00:24:52.710 TKO2 over Tommy Welsh. Sure happened. That was 00:24:52.710 --> 00:24:57.630 definitely a fight. Ishmael Davis, UD over Sam 00:24:57.630 --> 00:25:04.109 Gilly. Sam Gilly had a huge supporting. I was 00:25:04.109 --> 00:25:11.049 kind of surprised. Interesting. The Goat Jack 00:25:11.049 --> 00:25:15.849 Catterall. Jaron Catterall. Jaron Catterall? 00:25:18.349 --> 00:25:22.400 Beating the shit out of Kyle Usman. Jack Bozy. 00:25:23.799 --> 00:25:31.460 God. You know what? That's respect, man. I'm 00:25:31.460 --> 00:25:32.839 definitely going to watch Catterall's next fight. 00:25:32.980 --> 00:25:34.200 Yeah, I was going to say, do you think this is 00:25:34.200 --> 00:25:38.680 a career resurgence? Yeah, if he can continue 00:25:38.680 --> 00:25:42.359 cracking an egg, I'm pretty happy. Yeah. I mean, 00:25:42.420 --> 00:25:44.079 he's the first. He's gotten a knockout before 00:25:44.079 --> 00:25:47.579 Canelo, so I got to respect that. That is a shit. 00:25:48.079 --> 00:25:51.960 He's gotten a knockout at a decent level before 00:25:51.960 --> 00:25:56.400 Virgil won a belt. Stranger things happen, you 00:25:56.400 --> 00:26:01.180 know? I'm content. If he loses, it's whatever. 00:26:01.539 --> 00:26:03.140 He's one of those guys where I'm like, you know 00:26:03.140 --> 00:26:07.480 what? He's got a happy place on an undercard. 00:26:10.460 --> 00:26:12.059 I don't know, he might just become the main. 00:26:12.220 --> 00:26:15.539 It was the Jack Catterall fight when I realized 00:26:15.539 --> 00:26:19.220 I was surrounded by... No, no, no. I made this 00:26:19.220 --> 00:26:21.059 mistake as well when I was talking to Shanada. 00:26:22.180 --> 00:26:28.900 I was the fucking nerd. Because when Jack Carroll 00:26:28.900 --> 00:26:31.319 was coming out, I was talking to the people sitting 00:26:31.319 --> 00:26:36.480 next to me. They were like, wow, an American. 00:26:37.140 --> 00:26:41.599 Holy shit. Didn't expect to see that. So I was 00:26:41.599 --> 00:26:46.740 an oddity or a novelty. But I was talking about... 00:26:46.920 --> 00:26:49.200 Jack Catterall's first fight with Bozianis in 00:26:49.200 --> 00:26:53.180 this corner. They're like, who the fuck is Bozianis? 00:26:53.180 --> 00:26:54.640 And they're like, what the hell are you talking 00:26:54.640 --> 00:26:56.799 about? They were looking at me like I was fucking 00:26:56.799 --> 00:27:00.339 weird. I'm like, damn it. That's when you realize 00:27:00.339 --> 00:27:03.079 they're the hardcores. Yeah, yeah. I'm a degenerate. 00:27:03.799 --> 00:27:06.940 I bring this up, I'm like, guys, like, we are 00:27:06.940 --> 00:27:12.240 the super, super, like, 0 .5 % hardcores. Yeah, 00:27:12.259 --> 00:27:19.880 they were softcore fans. South Core, okay. That 00:27:19.880 --> 00:27:25.819 was the co -main, right? The one that happened 00:27:25.819 --> 00:27:29.960 before it, Adam Azeem stopping Kurt Scooby. This 00:27:29.960 --> 00:27:32.920 was where all the people around me figured out 00:27:32.920 --> 00:27:36.960 that I was not British. Because I was cheering 00:27:36.960 --> 00:27:38.880 for Kurt Scooby and everyone was looking at me 00:27:38.880 --> 00:27:41.819 like, what? I was like, what? He's American and 00:27:41.819 --> 00:27:45.609 so am I. And so, like, the people sitting around 00:27:45.609 --> 00:27:48.450 me, they're, like, poking fun. Like, Adam Azim's 00:27:48.450 --> 00:27:51.910 gonna fucking kill him. And it turns out that's 00:27:51.910 --> 00:27:54.910 exactly what happened. But it was all in good 00:27:54.910 --> 00:28:01.829 fun. Ah, and then the disappointment that was 00:28:01.829 --> 00:28:06.109 the main event. Connor Benn scores a knockdown 00:28:06.109 --> 00:28:09.730 on Chris Eubank as he, what, cruised to a UD? 00:28:11.529 --> 00:28:18.150 Yeah, like... Eubank was so gone. Shinata was 00:28:18.150 --> 00:28:22.430 saying that he was weight -drained. Yeah, absolutely. 00:28:23.250 --> 00:28:25.509 Weight -drained in age. It doesn't help that 00:28:25.509 --> 00:28:27.990 Bomac ate all of the food he could ever possibly 00:28:27.990 --> 00:28:33.309 get a hold of, probably. I would say that age 00:28:33.309 --> 00:28:37.410 was probably the bigger factor, honestly. The 00:28:37.410 --> 00:28:45.069 biggest. He looked old. Last time he was 162, 00:28:45.130 --> 00:28:49.289 but he looked just fine. I think, yeah, several 00:28:49.289 --> 00:28:52.950 harsh weight cuts back to back to back. Being 00:28:52.950 --> 00:28:55.529 pretty old and having a war with Conor Benn probably, 00:28:55.670 --> 00:28:59.730 yeah. Yeah, you're right. It all adds up. Probably 00:28:59.730 --> 00:29:03.430 just get him in and that's it. Yeah, yeah. He 00:29:03.430 --> 00:29:05.210 gave it his all last time, you know, and this 00:29:05.210 --> 00:29:07.490 time around he's just... Nothing. He got knocked 00:29:07.490 --> 00:29:10.730 down by Conor Benn, the welterweight, so... I 00:29:10.730 --> 00:29:16.630 mean... I laughed at the knockdown. You laughed 00:29:16.630 --> 00:29:18.990 at the knockdown? The knockdown happened. I was 00:29:18.990 --> 00:29:20.710 like, I'm fucking out of here. This is over. 00:29:23.670 --> 00:29:25.930 Were you kind of disappointed about that fight 00:29:25.930 --> 00:29:28.390 or what? Yeah, I was. I was expecting better 00:29:28.390 --> 00:29:32.569 from Eubank. Do you think that ticket was worth 00:29:32.569 --> 00:29:37.190 the money? The Catterall fight was fun. The Scooby 00:29:37.190 --> 00:29:40.250 fight was pretty fun. Showed me a lot about Adam 00:29:40.250 --> 00:29:43.049 Azeem. Like, he's just... It's pretty, like, 00:29:43.069 --> 00:29:47.309 what, semi -legit now? I would say, yeah. It's 00:29:47.309 --> 00:29:51.730 pretty okay. So, I got to see those. The ReactPoor 00:29:51.730 --> 00:29:55.369 knockout was fun. It was a pretty sad affair, 00:29:55.609 --> 00:29:59.930 but, meh. Still, it was a knockout. Overall, 00:30:00.009 --> 00:30:02.029 you got a pretty good 50 -cent concert out of 00:30:02.029 --> 00:30:05.630 it. I did. And, you know, there's something, 00:30:06.769 --> 00:30:08.750 like, sporting events here in the U .S., you 00:30:08.750 --> 00:30:11.930 can only buy two drinks at a time. And if you 00:30:11.930 --> 00:30:13.609 want to buy more, you have to have other people 00:30:13.609 --> 00:30:16.329 with you. Yeah, I blame baseball for that. Old 00:30:16.329 --> 00:30:22.130 50 cent beer night. And yeah. So when I was there, 00:30:22.309 --> 00:30:26.470 I went up to the beer counter and I asked for 00:30:26.470 --> 00:30:30.329 a pint. And they were like, how many? Like, how 00:30:30.329 --> 00:30:35.390 many am I allowed to get? Yeah. So that was pretty 00:30:35.390 --> 00:30:40.400 cool. You got wasted, huh? No, I didn't get wasted. 00:30:41.059 --> 00:30:43.380 Just ingratiated myself with the people around 00:30:43.380 --> 00:30:46.160 me. It's like, hey, American bought you a beer. 00:30:46.299 --> 00:30:50.079 Would you like one? That's fucking cool, man. 00:30:50.539 --> 00:30:54.980 It was fun. The guy sitting behind me, Major 00:30:54.980 --> 00:30:58.259 Eubank Stan, kept screaming. Major Eubank Stan? 00:30:58.480 --> 00:31:00.839 Yeah, he kept screaming, like, go on, my son. 00:31:01.799 --> 00:31:07.240 Yeah, it's literally that. Oh, my God. Yes. The 00:31:07.240 --> 00:31:10.339 line. He said the line. He did. It was pretty 00:31:10.339 --> 00:31:14.220 fun. And he knew who Bomek was, so I was like, 00:31:14.259 --> 00:31:21.799 alright, you're cool. Yeah, go on, son. But yeah, 00:31:21.960 --> 00:31:23.759 that was a... Overall, it was a fun experience. 00:31:24.319 --> 00:31:29.140 The crowds are... They have more crowd engagement. 00:31:30.500 --> 00:31:33.819 They have songs and stuff that everybody knows. 00:31:35.109 --> 00:31:38.569 what to do. That sounds a lot more fun than being 00:31:38.569 --> 00:31:47.430 in a warehouse. Fucking Riyadh. Yeah. But you 00:31:47.430 --> 00:31:49.670 know what? Let me say this, though. I think... 00:31:49.670 --> 00:31:52.849 You guys think Eubank's done? Oh, yeah. Sounds 00:31:52.849 --> 00:31:58.069 like it. There's no way he, like, rebounds. You 00:31:58.069 --> 00:32:00.430 guys don't think so? I don't... He's been talking 00:32:00.430 --> 00:32:04.180 like he's done. So, I don't think his heart's 00:32:04.180 --> 00:32:10.640 in it anymore. Okay, okay. Well, maybe we'll 00:32:10.640 --> 00:32:12.880 see him one day, maybe not. But if not, then 00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:16.859 Conor Benn took that rematch. And he fucking 00:32:16.859 --> 00:32:21.200 fucked him up. So, I gotta give my hat off to 00:32:21.200 --> 00:32:26.420 fucking Conor Benn. All respect to him. Off to 00:32:26.420 --> 00:32:34.420 Ryan Garcia. Before we get to ring four, really 00:32:34.420 --> 00:32:36.940 quickly, did you guys catch the Japanese card 00:32:36.940 --> 00:32:42.900 with Takuma Inoue? I didn't watch all of the 00:32:42.900 --> 00:32:47.299 main, but I did watch Carlos Cuadras fight. Yeah, 00:32:47.359 --> 00:32:50.859 Tomoya Suboi beats the fucking piss out of a 00:32:50.859 --> 00:32:56.259 very, very old Carlos Cuadras. Yeah. That was 00:32:56.259 --> 00:33:00.079 pretty sad. Pretty obvious. Carlos Cuadras is 00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:03.119 like almost 40. I think he's done after that. 00:33:03.359 --> 00:33:07.819 It showed. Yeah, I think he's done too. He has 00:33:07.819 --> 00:33:10.700 to be done. He's like a fucking... He's killing 00:33:10.700 --> 00:33:13.440 himself in there at that point. Asking for some 00:33:13.440 --> 00:33:16.099 fucking CT. He's got to hang him up, dude. Yeah. 00:33:17.579 --> 00:33:23.460 He had a good run. And in the main event, Takuma 00:33:23.460 --> 00:33:26.220 Inoue fucking embarrasses Tenshin Asakawa, who 00:33:26.220 --> 00:33:32.769 did not cry this time. So, that's cool. I know 00:33:32.769 --> 00:33:35.789 Shinada was happy. She was. Shinada was so happy. 00:33:37.970 --> 00:33:42.990 Yeah, I had to grovel being the tension fanboy 00:33:42.990 --> 00:33:49.329 that I am. Mr. Japanese Lomachenko? Yeah. That 00:33:49.329 --> 00:33:52.269 ain't short milk. Accurate to being the Japanese 00:33:52.269 --> 00:33:57.009 Lomachenko. He lost. That's true. It's Kaleo. 00:33:57.009 --> 00:34:00.950 You ate crow and I ate crow too. Speaking of 00:34:00.950 --> 00:34:03.910 eating crow, let's get to it. We're going to 00:34:03.910 --> 00:34:07.509 start with it. Sorry, sorry. I'm looking at a 00:34:07.509 --> 00:34:12.050 tank tweet that just got deleted. Justin? Is 00:34:12.050 --> 00:34:14.710 it the one where he's threatening Ray Jackson's 00:34:14.710 --> 00:34:17.570 kid? Ray's daughter? Yeah. That's fucking weird. 00:34:17.829 --> 00:34:21.949 That is messed up. Jesus Christ, man. You definitely 00:34:21.949 --> 00:34:23.730 beat that woman. I'll tell you that. Just make 00:34:23.730 --> 00:34:26.409 him fight Subaru Matias already, Al. Come on. 00:34:29.010 --> 00:34:31.429 All right. Make him fight fucking Amanda Serrano 00:34:31.429 --> 00:34:35.170 or something. I don't know. That's got to be 00:34:35.170 --> 00:34:38.929 cut. That's got to be cut? That's got to be cut. 00:34:39.369 --> 00:34:42.730 I was saying that like Amanda Serrano is going 00:34:42.730 --> 00:34:46.210 to beat his ass. That's too good, bro. Sorry. 00:34:47.710 --> 00:34:50.150 I was saying that in support of Bennis Ronald. 00:34:50.329 --> 00:34:51.789 I think she'll kick his ass. Cut to the ramen 00:34:51.789 --> 00:34:53.829 spot. No, cut to the... Ah, shit. Well, that's 00:34:53.829 --> 00:34:55.590 why he's not in fucking ramen anymore. Sorry, 00:34:55.650 --> 00:34:59.909 guys. That's why, bro. Where's fuck? Do the Patreon 00:34:59.909 --> 00:35:07.329 you go. Oh, my God. Eating Crow. Devin Haney. 00:35:09.030 --> 00:35:13.789 Fucking... Knocks down Brian Norman Jr. He looked 00:35:13.789 --> 00:35:15.929 good for welterweight. Like, at welterweight, 00:35:15.969 --> 00:35:22.940 he looked good. Yeah, he looked fantastic. Well, 00:35:22.940 --> 00:35:26.420 not fantastic, but he looked... He didn't look 00:35:26.420 --> 00:35:31.139 as scared shitless as he did. To all the B -Side 00:35:31.139 --> 00:35:33.780 listeners that have been listening to my voice 00:35:33.780 --> 00:35:35.659 ever since I started this podcast, a little -known 00:35:35.659 --> 00:35:38.500 story if you guys are barely more of a recent 00:35:38.500 --> 00:35:41.659 listener. The reason I'm on this podcast is because 00:35:41.659 --> 00:35:44.360 of Brian Norman Jr. And I tried to tell him, 00:35:44.380 --> 00:35:48.030 Leo, that... that he could put some problems 00:35:48.030 --> 00:35:53.130 against Boots. Man, I ate some fucking crow that 00:35:53.130 --> 00:35:55.889 night. I'm not going to lie. I was about to cry. 00:35:56.409 --> 00:35:59.789 I was pissed. And, you know, I was just yelling 00:35:59.789 --> 00:36:03.789 at the TV like, Norman, come on. Seriously? Do 00:36:03.789 --> 00:36:05.889 something, dude. Come on. You know, keep your 00:36:05.889 --> 00:36:08.210 head off center. Remember, I told you guys, the 00:36:08.210 --> 00:36:09.550 biggest problem is going to be if he doesn't 00:36:09.550 --> 00:36:11.369 keep his head off center line. You were like, 00:36:11.409 --> 00:36:16.719 go on, son. Go on, my son. Go on, my son. The 00:36:16.719 --> 00:36:19.460 thing with Norman is that, honestly, at near 00:36:19.460 --> 00:36:21.980 the end, he was adjusting, but not enough to 00:36:21.980 --> 00:36:24.300 the point where he'd win the fight. That knockdown 00:36:24.300 --> 00:36:28.260 broke the heart of fucking everybody that was 00:36:28.260 --> 00:36:31.699 rooting for him. Because the rest of those first, 00:36:31.860 --> 00:36:33.900 like, what, two or three rounds? They were pretty 00:36:33.900 --> 00:36:36.019 good. It was a fun fight. And then after that, 00:36:36.079 --> 00:36:38.320 it was just a classic Haney clinch fest, you 00:36:38.320 --> 00:36:41.239 know? So we got to deal with more Haney in the 00:36:41.239 --> 00:36:47.329 future, and Norman will... You know what? I fully 00:36:47.329 --> 00:36:52.869 agree with all the Haney fans. He's ready for 00:36:52.869 --> 00:36:56.130 the best. Give him Boots, Crawford, and Benavidez 00:36:56.130 --> 00:36:59.210 back -to -back -to -back eight weeks apart each. 00:37:00.389 --> 00:37:04.349 I want to see Haney go against Boots. I'm officially 00:37:04.349 --> 00:37:07.650 on the Haney hate train. I've seen enough. Haney 00:37:07.650 --> 00:37:10.690 can do it. Boots, Crawford, Benavidez back -to 00:37:10.690 --> 00:37:13.400 -back -to -back. Then Usyk as the final boss. 00:37:13.699 --> 00:37:18.820 Yeah, Usyk four weeks after Benavidez. Sounds 00:37:18.820 --> 00:37:22.119 lovely. All jokes aside, I got to give my hats 00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:24.739 off to Devin Haney. No, everybody doubted him, 00:37:24.760 --> 00:37:29.239 and I doubted him severely. I thought he was 00:37:29.239 --> 00:37:31.800 going to get knocked out. Obviously, he didn't. 00:37:32.239 --> 00:37:37.239 He got the nod, so hats off to him. Devin Haney, 00:37:37.320 --> 00:37:41.550 we'll see you against Ryan Garcia as well. Two 00:37:41.550 --> 00:37:46.570 bums. Two bums. I'm not quite off the Haney hate 00:37:46.570 --> 00:37:48.750 train. Maybe Norman was worse than projected 00:37:48.750 --> 00:37:53.010 because we did fall for top -ranked lies. Well, 00:37:53.010 --> 00:37:57.130 I will say this, that if they get him a good 00:37:57.130 --> 00:37:59.090 trainer, he could come back maybe a couple fights. 00:37:59.869 --> 00:38:02.050 Give him like five, six more fights, he'll probably 00:38:02.050 --> 00:38:05.829 be back in title contention again. Yes, and someone 00:38:05.829 --> 00:38:09.860 will believe top -ranked lies once again. Yeah, 00:38:09.880 --> 00:38:12.320 but honestly, I'm going to still follow Brian 00:38:12.320 --> 00:38:14.780 Norman Jr. I'm not going to get on that. I got 00:38:14.780 --> 00:38:18.820 to get on that Brian Norman Jr. hate watch. I'm 00:38:18.820 --> 00:38:22.139 still on that train just because, you know, I 00:38:22.139 --> 00:38:27.440 have to. You don't have to. Your agenda is your 00:38:27.440 --> 00:38:30.119 agenda. You know, I got to stick with the guy. 00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:32.480 I got to stick with him. Okay, fair enough. Going 00:38:32.480 --> 00:38:34.980 down with the ship? Oh, I'm going to go down 00:38:34.980 --> 00:38:38.139 with that fucking ship, baby. Saul's a good captain. 00:38:40.750 --> 00:38:43.050 I will guide that shit. I mean, if he ever comes 00:38:43.050 --> 00:38:46.130 back, you know, beats boots, fuck. You're a good 00:38:46.130 --> 00:38:49.889 captain. Nah, but for all intents and purposes, 00:38:50.010 --> 00:38:52.949 I don't see Brian Ramsey Jr. coming back at the 00:38:52.949 --> 00:38:58.349 top of contention for years. You know? So I wish 00:38:58.349 --> 00:39:00.349 him the best. I really sincerely hope that he 00:39:00.349 --> 00:39:03.369 comes back. And better than ever. With a better 00:39:03.369 --> 00:39:10.619 trainer, too. Abdullah Mason. Clean Sam Noakes' 00:39:10.800 --> 00:39:17.119 fucking clocks. Fire to your contender. Yeah, 00:39:17.239 --> 00:39:20.719 I was really shocked at how rugged Noakes was 00:39:20.719 --> 00:39:23.139 because he was getting pieced up and he just 00:39:23.139 --> 00:39:27.320 did not quit. He got that dog in him. I forgot 00:39:27.320 --> 00:39:30.519 we didn't have a podcast for this card. My take 00:39:30.519 --> 00:39:33.079 was that Dylan Mason fought an incredibly stupid 00:39:33.079 --> 00:39:35.179 fight that made Noakes look better than he is. 00:39:35.360 --> 00:39:39.969 Yes. Yeah, I agree, but Noakes held out. He put 00:39:39.969 --> 00:39:48.409 up a fight. You could hear his corner say, stick 00:39:48.409 --> 00:39:56.190 him with your jab and then take him. If he just 00:39:56.190 --> 00:39:58.130 listened to his corner, it isn't even an adjustment 00:39:58.130 --> 00:40:00.090 that he could have made this hypothetically. 00:40:00.190 --> 00:40:03.769 His corner was giving him the adjustment. Because 00:40:03.769 --> 00:40:06.909 every time Mason got full leverage on the shot, 00:40:07.320 --> 00:40:09.320 On Noakes. Noakes looked like he was ready to 00:40:09.320 --> 00:40:15.000 go. So, like, yes, Noakes is a tough son of a 00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:20.360 bitch. It really helped him that Mason just smothered 00:40:20.360 --> 00:40:22.840 most of his work and made him look competent 00:40:22.840 --> 00:40:25.900 in there. Which honestly does raise some questions 00:40:25.900 --> 00:40:28.579 about Mason's ability to be coachable. Yeah, 00:40:28.599 --> 00:40:30.519 that's what I'm saying. Long -term developmentally, 00:40:30.559 --> 00:40:32.440 he's going to run into some issues if he doesn't 00:40:32.440 --> 00:40:34.239 listen to his corner. Because it's not like... 00:40:34.619 --> 00:40:36.219 They're giving him a complicated instruction. 00:40:36.440 --> 00:40:38.360 They're saying, throw your fucking jab at his 00:40:38.360 --> 00:40:43.000 head, please. Yeah. It's because, you know, they've 00:40:43.000 --> 00:40:45.639 been telling him for the longest time he's brought 00:40:45.639 --> 00:40:47.820 the best prospect, which he is. I got to give 00:40:47.820 --> 00:40:48.679 him a flower. Of course I'm going to give him 00:40:48.679 --> 00:40:52.239 a flower. Mason is the best prospect, right, 00:40:52.420 --> 00:40:54.260 that we had this year because now he's a champion, 00:40:54.320 --> 00:40:59.719 of course. But, you know, it's just maybe a little 00:40:59.719 --> 00:41:01.300 bit of ego took over. You never know. And again, 00:41:01.360 --> 00:41:05.039 this is what we see. There's definitely more 00:41:05.039 --> 00:41:08.920 behind the scenes that we don't see. 100%. This 00:41:08.920 --> 00:41:14.920 is like our little ideas, you know? Do you think 00:41:14.920 --> 00:41:18.559 he was trying to make it a spectacle for his 00:41:18.559 --> 00:41:22.380 title fight? He definitely wanted to stop Noakes, 00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:25.900 but... Yeah. Because he kept going forehead to 00:41:25.900 --> 00:41:30.960 forehead. That shit was weird. Yeah. That's some... 00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:34.219 That's a... That's a pressure fighter right there. 00:41:34.239 --> 00:41:35.519 He was fighting like a pressure fighter. He's 00:41:35.519 --> 00:41:38.059 not a pressure fighter. That's not his style. 00:41:39.900 --> 00:41:43.559 But it is what it is. He got the job done. But 00:41:43.559 --> 00:41:45.639 he really needs to learn after this. Because 00:41:45.639 --> 00:41:48.280 if he wasn't there with a harder puncher, he 00:41:48.280 --> 00:41:55.199 would have been out. Yeah. Trying to think what 00:41:55.199 --> 00:41:58.559 could be next for him. He needs to fight some 00:41:58.559 --> 00:42:06.780 fucking bums. Mokes or Mason? Mason first. Mason 00:42:06.780 --> 00:42:13.639 needs some time to build himself up a little 00:42:13.639 --> 00:42:17.159 more because he's only, what, 21? He's currently 00:42:17.159 --> 00:42:19.340 the youngest champion in boxing right now, which 00:42:19.340 --> 00:42:21.340 is fucking fantastic. That's a great feat. Lucas 00:42:21.340 --> 00:42:24.719 Boddy right there. I was just about to mention 00:42:24.719 --> 00:42:29.280 him. You fucking read my mind. Lucas Boddy. Similar 00:42:29.280 --> 00:42:33.400 to Noakes, not as tough. Will punish you if you 00:42:33.400 --> 00:42:36.420 decide to be a fucking idiot. But, like, he's 00:42:36.420 --> 00:42:42.880 old, he's smaller. Let's do the opposite. Let's 00:42:42.880 --> 00:42:46.400 say... What can he do that, like, you know, for 00:42:46.400 --> 00:42:49.539 a better competition? If he wants better competition... 00:42:49.539 --> 00:42:52.559 If he wants better competition... Hypothetically, 00:42:52.699 --> 00:42:54.380 right? Hypothetically, let's do better competition. 00:42:54.940 --> 00:42:58.530 Well, he can get fried by Andy Cruz. William 00:42:58.530 --> 00:43:01.110 Zepeda. Yeah, well, I was going to say William 00:43:01.110 --> 00:43:03.369 Zepeda or he can just get fried by Andy Cruz 00:43:03.369 --> 00:43:05.670 and we can end the Abdullah Mason experience 00:43:05.670 --> 00:43:09.869 there. Abdullah Mason fighting Murtaya versus 00:43:09.869 --> 00:43:12.710 Andy Cruz winner. If Murtaya wins that one for 00:43:12.710 --> 00:43:15.130 some reason, I think that would be a really good 00:43:15.130 --> 00:43:17.110 unification fight and that's a winnable fight 00:43:17.110 --> 00:43:20.170 for Mason. That's a good fight, yeah. Schofield, 00:43:20.250 --> 00:43:24.369 if Schofield doesn't pull out. He might stub 00:43:24.369 --> 00:43:27.349 his toe. Yeah, he might get poisoned again by 00:43:27.349 --> 00:43:30.510 Shakur Stevenson. But that fight ain't happening, 00:43:30.590 --> 00:43:37.210 though. The issue with Schofield now isn't even 00:43:37.210 --> 00:43:39.449 just his willingness to take fights. It's other 00:43:39.449 --> 00:43:41.610 people's willingness to sign a fight with him, 00:43:41.650 --> 00:43:43.670 knowing that he might just pull out for no reason. 00:43:44.429 --> 00:43:48.849 Yeah. I mean, it was fucking Pedro Diaz. So, 00:43:48.869 --> 00:43:55.679 I mean, fuck him. Jesus. Yeah. And Sam Noakes, 00:43:55.860 --> 00:43:58.340 I think this gave him some profile. Like you 00:43:58.340 --> 00:44:01.860 guys were saying, Mason's boneheadedness gave 00:44:01.860 --> 00:44:05.699 Sam Noakes more shine than he really deserved. 00:44:06.820 --> 00:44:09.159 That being said, I don't think it's going to... 00:44:09.159 --> 00:44:10.920 Like, Noakes is definitely going to get a nice 00:44:10.920 --> 00:44:14.219 payday out of it, but it will not be to his benefit 00:44:14.219 --> 00:44:17.239 because it's going to be... Like, it's going 00:44:17.239 --> 00:44:22.260 to be, let's say, the rebound of whoever loses 00:44:22.260 --> 00:44:28.469 between Cruz and Moritaya. Either loser beats 00:44:28.469 --> 00:44:31.849 him. Yeah, like he's going to end up being a 00:44:31.849 --> 00:44:34.929 rebound for a guy. Like now the top matchups 00:44:34.929 --> 00:44:38.030 are starting to slowly be made. He's going to 00:44:38.030 --> 00:44:40.750 be a rebound for one of the top guys who lose. 00:44:41.630 --> 00:44:44.610 And since they're not idiots, they're going to 00:44:44.610 --> 00:44:47.869 make him look like a fool. Well, Noakes is Queensberry, 00:44:47.969 --> 00:44:51.730 right? Yeah, but the thing is that as much as 00:44:51.730 --> 00:44:53.710 you want to say, oh, Frank won't cash him out. 00:44:54.409 --> 00:44:57.409 For a Saudi percentage cut, for, like, for the 00:44:57.409 --> 00:45:00.070 Saudis, he'll cash anyone out. Yeah, for the 00:45:00.070 --> 00:45:03.849 Saudi milk machine, no. Like, be real, like, 00:45:03.869 --> 00:45:08.909 was the only reason for Usyk -Dubois 2 to happen, 00:45:09.010 --> 00:45:13.789 realistically, was, like, yeah, undisputed or 00:45:13.789 --> 00:45:15.869 whatever, but really, that was cashing Dubois 00:45:15.869 --> 00:45:22.449 out on a Saudi card. Saudi -sponsored card. So 00:45:22.449 --> 00:45:24.969 Frank would totally cash him out, especially 00:45:24.969 --> 00:45:31.190 Noakes. Noakes is a 28 -year -old lightweight 00:45:31.190 --> 00:45:36.949 whose boxing skills are not enough to beat any 00:45:36.949 --> 00:45:40.409 other top guy. So you kind of want to cash him 00:45:40.409 --> 00:45:46.050 out before he gets a loss domestically or in 00:45:46.050 --> 00:45:53.539 Europe. What weight is Josh Padley? Padley is 00:45:53.539 --> 00:45:58.860 also... He's a Josh Padley thug. That would be 00:45:58.860 --> 00:46:02.420 a bad fight. That's a good rebound. That's actually 00:46:02.420 --> 00:46:08.460 a perfect rebound. Yeah. Padley is a super featherweight. 00:46:09.000 --> 00:46:14.699 But, again, Shakur dragged him up to 135. He's 00:46:14.699 --> 00:46:17.960 going to say he fought Shakur at 135. Yeah, he 00:46:17.960 --> 00:46:22.780 fought... He got that stoppage win. After that, 00:46:22.820 --> 00:46:27.039 the 135. And then he moved down to 130. So you 00:46:27.039 --> 00:46:29.840 can totally bring him back up to 135 to fight 00:46:29.840 --> 00:46:34.360 Noakes for a Noakes rebound. Before cashing Noakes 00:46:34.360 --> 00:46:40.199 out again. But the thing is that Padley's matchroom. 00:46:41.059 --> 00:46:43.280 Yeah, I was going to say cross promo. Probably 00:46:43.280 --> 00:46:45.880 not going to happen. So how willing are you if 00:46:45.880 --> 00:46:48.460 you're Eddie Hearn? Because that would be cashing 00:46:48.460 --> 00:46:56.130 Padley out. For no real gain. Maybe they gained 00:46:56.130 --> 00:46:59.949 some favor with Turkey. You know where it could 00:46:59.949 --> 00:47:06.050 happen? If they did another 5v5. I would not 00:47:06.050 --> 00:47:08.150 want to see another 5v5. That was some... Oh, 00:47:08.150 --> 00:47:10.670 the 5v5 was a mess. But I'm saying that's probably 00:47:10.670 --> 00:47:14.030 the best spot for a Padley -Nokes fight. Yeah. 00:47:14.570 --> 00:47:23.599 I guess, yeah. You're right. Oh, shit. Oh, now 00:47:23.599 --> 00:47:27.639 we're getting to the really good stuff. Bam knocks 00:47:27.639 --> 00:47:34.659 out Puma Martinez in 10. Beautiful performance. 00:47:36.340 --> 00:47:38.500 I think probably the best performance of his 00:47:38.500 --> 00:47:45.460 career. Yeah. I don't know. For Bam, I have a 00:47:45.460 --> 00:47:48.800 special fondness for that first, like the fight 00:47:48.800 --> 00:47:52.510 that put him on the map. Yeah. It was Quadrus, 00:47:52.530 --> 00:47:56.710 right? Yeah, as old as Quadrus was, whatever, 00:47:56.909 --> 00:48:00.829 I do have a special fondness for moving up two 00:48:00.829 --> 00:48:06.070 weights, fighting Quadrus on no notice and beating 00:48:06.070 --> 00:48:11.369 him up. I think, yeah, this one and that one, 00:48:11.429 --> 00:48:14.329 I hold them both in high regard. Probably that 00:48:14.329 --> 00:48:16.349 one, the one that put him on the spot is probably 00:48:16.349 --> 00:48:18.489 the most famous, but this one I think is really, 00:48:18.590 --> 00:48:23.019 probably was a hard fight. I'll give... See, 00:48:23.039 --> 00:48:26.199 on one end, he beat Kazuto. See, it's hard to 00:48:26.199 --> 00:48:30.079 rate Puma accurately because he did beat Kazuto 00:48:30.079 --> 00:48:38.440 Ioka and Ankahas. They're both old. And he's 00:48:38.440 --> 00:48:42.460 also old. He's 34 at super flyweight and Ioka's 00:48:42.460 --> 00:48:48.639 36. Ankahas is 33. At super flyweight, you're... 00:48:49.099 --> 00:48:53.900 Like, you're going to break a hip, buddy. So, 00:48:54.000 --> 00:48:56.480 I do respect Bam for actually, like, this guy. 00:48:56.599 --> 00:49:00.400 Like, Puma is good. It's just, like, it's hard 00:49:00.400 --> 00:49:02.480 to rate wins at the lower weight classes that 00:49:02.480 --> 00:49:06.280 are, like, the absolute creme de la creme. Well, 00:49:06.280 --> 00:49:09.519 you got to weigh him based on, you know, on the 00:49:09.519 --> 00:49:11.500 weight class itself, you know? Undefeated title 00:49:11.500 --> 00:49:14.519 holder. Undefeated title holder. It's a good 00:49:14.519 --> 00:49:18.639 win. But I'm saying, like... The fights that 00:49:18.639 --> 00:49:20.619 are going to end up defining him are still down 00:49:20.619 --> 00:49:22.360 the road, and I don't think he wins either of 00:49:22.360 --> 00:49:27.900 them. Like, he's going to be... He's going to 00:49:27.900 --> 00:49:31.360 be... He's obviously great and very good, but, 00:49:31.360 --> 00:49:35.539 like, you know, there's... It's a very steep 00:49:35.539 --> 00:49:37.800 cliff between that and, like, you're the best 00:49:37.800 --> 00:49:44.960 of your era at these weights. I think he gets 00:49:44.960 --> 00:49:47.440 that Nakatani fight if any beats him. That is 00:49:47.440 --> 00:49:49.960 me. I think he's going to fight Willy Baldo for 00:49:49.960 --> 00:49:55.019 the last belt first. If he wins, right? Yeah, 00:49:55.039 --> 00:49:56.619 he's going to get that last belt, but I think 00:49:56.619 --> 00:50:00.159 he will end up fighting either Inoue or Nakatani, 00:50:00.199 --> 00:50:04.199 and that's going to be his career fight. That's 00:50:04.199 --> 00:50:07.260 what we're making. I don't like it happening 00:50:07.260 --> 00:50:11.699 sooner than later for Bam, just because, like... 00:50:12.090 --> 00:50:14.130 Both of them, right, like, the thing is that 00:50:14.130 --> 00:50:16.269 losing, he's going to lose to Inoue right now, 00:50:16.309 --> 00:50:18.210 but Inoue might get older and it becomes a winnable 00:50:18.210 --> 00:50:24.369 fight. And with Nakatani, losing to Nakatani 00:50:24.369 --> 00:50:27.010 is more than just, oh, you lose back to the drawing 00:50:27.010 --> 00:50:35.030 board. Like, it is, it's likely a career -altering 00:50:35.030 --> 00:50:38.030 beating if he loses to Nakatani. Well, you never 00:50:38.030 --> 00:50:41.280 know how Nakatani loses to Inoue. If Nakatani 00:50:41.280 --> 00:50:44.420 loses in a way bad, then you're going to have 00:50:44.420 --> 00:50:45.659 to reevaluate that. That's what I mean by a matter 00:50:45.659 --> 00:50:48.559 of time. Like, if you made Bam Nakatani next, 00:50:48.800 --> 00:50:55.539 like, Bam loses and it's not a pretty loss. They're 00:50:55.539 --> 00:50:57.539 not risking that fight with fucking Nakatani 00:50:57.539 --> 00:51:00.039 in any way. Yeah. Well, they already kind of 00:51:00.039 --> 00:51:06.719 are, but... Yeah, the turkey curse. I'm feeling 00:51:06.719 --> 00:51:08.239 really bad about that one. I'm pretty sure we're 00:51:08.239 --> 00:51:10.079 going to talk about it next week, right? On the 00:51:10.079 --> 00:51:14.280 next one. Yeah. I'll get into more on that one, 00:51:14.340 --> 00:51:18.940 but that's going to go bad, I think. Bam's in 00:51:18.940 --> 00:51:22.119 a good spot right now. Finish unifying the division 00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:24.760 and see what your options are then. But there's 00:51:24.760 --> 00:51:32.519 no rush to go fight Inoue or Nakatani. There's 00:51:32.519 --> 00:51:37.679 good fights at 118. Oh, yeah. There's on Inoue 00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:43.599 that he can beat. Yeah. Seiya Tsutsumi. He's 00:51:43.599 --> 00:51:47.860 a fun style. You know what? Make Bam tension. 00:51:48.420 --> 00:51:53.300 Bam tension and let's make Shinada happy. We're 00:51:53.300 --> 00:51:57.460 going to be in a battle of the angles, man. Let's 00:51:57.460 --> 00:51:59.980 make Shinada happy when Bam beats the hell out 00:51:59.980 --> 00:52:07.159 of tension. Speaking of beating the hell out 00:52:07.159 --> 00:52:10.920 of, David Benavidez stops Anthony Yard in seven. 00:52:14.059 --> 00:52:21.440 That was a fun fight. With the comms, not with 00:52:21.440 --> 00:52:22.880 the comms, with that crowd, it made it boring 00:52:22.880 --> 00:52:26.559 in my opinion. That sounds weird, but the way 00:52:26.559 --> 00:52:30.139 I saw it, if the fighters fighting themselves, 00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:35.320 that was fucking gangbusters. A crowd? You need 00:52:35.320 --> 00:52:38.400 a crowd. You definitely need a crowd. I can't 00:52:38.400 --> 00:52:39.719 keep watching these fights in Saudi anymore. 00:52:39.780 --> 00:52:42.900 It's horrible. It's more lively crowds when they 00:52:42.900 --> 00:52:46.039 were doing fights in the COVID bubble. Oh, yeah. 00:52:46.599 --> 00:52:49.980 Those fake crowds, too. I gotta say, the fight 00:52:49.980 --> 00:52:57.010 itself went pretty much as expected. I don't 00:52:57.010 --> 00:52:59.250 think anyone expected the fight to go any differently. 00:52:59.309 --> 00:53:03.150 We did get the clip of Yard holding on to Benavidez's 00:53:03.150 --> 00:53:05.409 arm for dear life and getting punched like 30 00:53:05.409 --> 00:53:08.969 times with the one arm. At first, from seeing 00:53:08.969 --> 00:53:10.590 it from that angle originally, I thought that 00:53:10.590 --> 00:53:12.670 Yard or that Benavidez was holding his head. 00:53:12.789 --> 00:53:16.329 I thought so too. Look at Yard just grabbing 00:53:16.329 --> 00:53:21.849 on for dear life to his arm. Like, fucking hilarious. 00:53:23.760 --> 00:53:26.760 The one thing I had to say about it is that color 00:53:26.760 --> 00:53:29.920 afterwards. I understand that Azul and Ramirez 00:53:29.920 --> 00:53:33.460 fight is big, quote -unquote, for the Mexican 00:53:33.460 --> 00:53:37.280 community, but we all want to see that better 00:53:37.280 --> 00:53:39.260 BF fight. I think that should have been the next 00:53:39.260 --> 00:53:42.280 fight, in my opinion. I don't think... BF and 00:53:42.280 --> 00:53:45.079 better BF are both on huge layoffs because of 00:53:45.079 --> 00:53:48.800 injuries or whatever, and also kind of only interested 00:53:48.800 --> 00:53:53.210 in each other. Because for whatever reason, they're 00:53:53.210 --> 00:53:59.550 1 -1. I don't get that, though. If the time is 00:53:59.550 --> 00:54:02.269 there, it gives you another title and makes it 00:54:02.269 --> 00:54:04.829 important to beat it again. It's stupid, but 00:54:04.829 --> 00:54:08.269 let's be real. Better BF at his advanced age 00:54:08.269 --> 00:54:12.309 could just become decrepit overnight. He has 00:54:12.309 --> 00:54:14.869 a history of injuries, nagging injuries, too. 00:54:15.429 --> 00:54:21.400 He's old. It's pretty... It's pretty likely at 00:54:21.400 --> 00:54:25.000 this point that Benavidez just beats him. Yeah. 00:54:25.599 --> 00:54:29.019 Which is, like, not what BetterBF wants, obviously. 00:54:30.519 --> 00:54:32.780 But it would be a hell of a fight. And Bibble 00:54:32.780 --> 00:54:35.039 doesn't really care because he's rehabbing his 00:54:35.039 --> 00:54:39.920 back surgery, yeah. Yeah. So, for BetterBF, it's 00:54:39.920 --> 00:54:42.119 easier to just wait and get that extra Saudi 00:54:42.119 --> 00:54:47.539 payday with Bibble than at age 40. Getting sent 00:54:47.539 --> 00:54:49.820 to the back of the line because Benavidez beats 00:54:49.820 --> 00:54:57.519 you. Right. That's true. That's true. The one 00:54:57.519 --> 00:55:02.000 thing I do got to say if he fights Zurdo is that 00:55:02.000 --> 00:55:04.300 he's going to beat him. And that might make some 00:55:04.300 --> 00:55:05.980 money with an Opetai fight because Opetai right 00:55:05.980 --> 00:55:08.219 now, especially after what happened recently, 00:55:08.460 --> 00:55:12.039 he's looking like he's on fire. I think that 00:55:12.039 --> 00:55:13.500 fight might materialize to be something bigger. 00:55:15.099 --> 00:55:32.659 We'll see. What can Anthony Yard do from here? 00:55:32.760 --> 00:55:37.159 Is he relegated to the B tier? Is this a permanent 00:55:37.159 --> 00:55:40.639 relegation? He's been in the B tier. Now he's 00:55:40.639 --> 00:55:47.420 stuck. The cracks were there when he lost to 00:55:47.420 --> 00:55:52.000 Lennon Arthur the first time. He probably won't 00:55:52.000 --> 00:55:56.579 win a world title. No, unfortunately not. But 00:55:56.579 --> 00:55:58.239 you know what? I got to respect that he put up 00:55:58.239 --> 00:56:01.380 a good fight against Benavidez. And you know 00:56:01.380 --> 00:56:03.139 what? He wasn't hurting Benavidez, but he was 00:56:03.139 --> 00:56:11.260 catching him. I mean, I guess, but I think he's 00:56:11.260 --> 00:56:13.840 definitely slowed down. A good bit of his power 00:56:13.840 --> 00:56:17.079 comes from his speed, and he just doesn't have 00:56:17.079 --> 00:56:19.929 it. Because, like, those are shots that, like, 00:56:19.949 --> 00:56:22.110 they came fast enough at better BF to at least 00:56:22.110 --> 00:56:26.349 make him think twice. Benavidez, it just kind 00:56:26.349 --> 00:56:30.590 of just rolled him over. Oh, yeah. And I think, 00:56:30.610 --> 00:56:33.789 like, he's definitely over the hill because he's 00:56:33.789 --> 00:56:36.510 a very, he's an athletic guy, right? Yeah, definitely. 00:56:37.690 --> 00:56:39.809 He's over the hill for sure. He's been in wars. 00:56:40.110 --> 00:56:46.349 Again, he's been badly stopped three times. Oh, 00:56:46.409 --> 00:56:48.630 they even docked Benavidez the two points for 00:56:48.630 --> 00:56:52.369 hitting him while he was down. Yeah, that's... 00:56:52.369 --> 00:56:57.150 Yard probably could have milked that for the 00:56:57.150 --> 00:57:04.070 Glenn Johnson. Milk it for the DQ? Yeah, the 00:57:04.070 --> 00:57:08.989 Glenn Johnson DQ. But what I want to see next 00:57:08.989 --> 00:57:10.949 for Anthony Yard is honestly a Callum Smith fight. 00:57:11.050 --> 00:57:13.289 I think that would be a great regional fight 00:57:13.289 --> 00:57:15.860 where people will buy tickets and... Maybe not 00:57:15.860 --> 00:57:18.780 pay -per -view, but it would be a good watch 00:57:18.780 --> 00:57:23.500 for the Brits. Oh, you know they'd put that on 00:57:23.500 --> 00:57:28.159 pay -per -view. Yeah. I'd watch that, too. I'm 00:57:28.159 --> 00:57:31.139 not, you know... I can't say that on here, but, 00:57:31.199 --> 00:57:35.719 you know, I'm not... I'm not gonna be a... Hey, 00:57:35.739 --> 00:57:39.880 they'll suck the money out of your ass. Out of 00:57:39.880 --> 00:57:41.400 my ass? I don't know about that. Maybe someone 00:57:41.400 --> 00:57:53.320 like Lin, but, I mean... Oh, shit. We are making 00:57:53.320 --> 00:57:56.079 good time, actually. Montel Griffin. 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If you can, I know 01:09:00.420 --> 01:09:04.460 it's difficult these days, but if you can, travel. 01:09:04.699 --> 01:09:10.079 Go do stuff in places other places even if it's 01:09:10.079 --> 01:09:13.760 just like a the next city over or something go 01:09:13.760 --> 01:09:22.619 see other places it's good for your brain i'm 01:09:22.619 --> 01:09:24.819 gonna do the last one you do you go next josh 01:09:24.819 --> 01:09:27.859 trying to think about my parting words i don't 01:09:27.859 --> 01:09:31.460 have one right now pro box good two bums pro 01:09:31.460 --> 01:09:34.970 box pro box good is always a good one Isn't Pro 01:09:34.970 --> 01:09:38.050 Bucks coming up? Wasn't there even a Pro Bucks? 01:09:38.609 --> 01:09:42.310 Yeah, it's next week. Okay. Okay, yeah. Pro Bucks, 01:09:42.350 --> 01:09:50.109 good. Alright, well. My parting words are going 01:09:50.109 --> 01:09:55.750 to be Bam, I love you. Norman, you can do better 01:09:55.750 --> 01:09:58.630 next time. I hope you come back. Benavidez, great 01:09:58.630 --> 01:10:02.010 job. Please fight better, B. One thing I do want 01:10:02.010 --> 01:10:05.100 to say that I think I just want to get out the 01:10:05.100 --> 01:10:10.180 way, honestly. If we have any Saudi people listening, 01:10:10.319 --> 01:10:13.300 when I say the word the Saudis, if I say those 01:10:13.300 --> 01:10:15.560 words, I don't mean you guys. You guys are great. 01:10:15.640 --> 01:10:17.260 I love all my fans, but I love all the fans of 01:10:17.260 --> 01:10:20.979 this pod. Any Saudis. And also, I wasn't paid 01:10:20.979 --> 01:10:22.460 by the Saudi government to say this, by the way. 01:10:22.779 --> 01:10:25.460 I wish. The Saudi government, if you'd like to 01:10:25.460 --> 01:10:27.720 pay us, we will change our opinions for the bag. 01:10:29.340 --> 01:10:31.239 I'll take the bag and then, you know, thumb the 01:10:31.239 --> 01:10:35.210 fuck off, but, you know. I will change my opinions 01:10:35.210 --> 01:10:39.130 for the bag. Maybe if you slide a couple... A 01:10:39.130 --> 01:10:42.289 couple stacks. A couple stacks, maybe. By the 01:10:42.289 --> 01:10:44.289 way, when I say the Saudis, I don't mean the 01:10:44.289 --> 01:10:46.289 people. The people are beautiful. When I say 01:10:46.289 --> 01:10:48.409 the Saudis, I mean the Saudi government and Turkey. 01:10:49.229 --> 01:10:51.130 I just want to clear that up. And I wanted to 01:10:51.130 --> 01:10:54.109 end it off the pot with something that Leo used 01:10:54.109 --> 01:10:55.270 to do that I've actually haven't heard him do 01:10:55.270 --> 01:10:58.770 in a while. It's a quote. Oh, shit. A quote. 01:10:59.590 --> 01:11:02.229 Quote of the day. I want to do a quote, actually. 01:11:02.229 --> 01:11:07.590 I wanted a quote from George Foreman. To be successful 01:11:07.590 --> 01:11:09.229 in life, you must get in the habit of turning 01:11:09.229 --> 01:11:13.590 negatives into positives. So, Norman, you got 01:11:13.590 --> 01:11:16.850 to turn the negative into positive. That's all 01:11:16.850 --> 01:11:20.449 I got. I love my people. Love you guys. See you 01:11:20.449 --> 01:11:23.649 guys next time. All right. That's it for this 01:11:23.649 --> 01:11:27.170 edition of the Boxing B -Sides. Fucking see you 01:11:27.170 --> 01:11:30.619 on the other side of your... Hit me up. Let me 01:11:30.619 --> 01:11:32.880 know what you did instead of staying inside and 01:11:32.880 --> 01:11:34.619 watching these fucking abysmal cards.