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The B -Side and Boxing. B -Side shit. B -Side.

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B -Side. And the B -Side. You got a B -Side.

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The B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. The B

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-Side thing. This is the B -Sides Boxing Podcast.

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No, that'll work out fine. Boxing B -Sides. Holy

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shit, we're back. Joined by the one and only

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Saul and Joshua. Que paso, hermanos? What's up,

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guys? Man, the very spirited debate on Hall of

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Fame stuff. Do you want to hear what that was?

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You're going to have to go to patreon .com slash

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lbxmedianet and get yourself signed up. But we

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do have some interesting news coming up. So we

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got two people that are signed to fight in January.

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Opponents to be determined. Number one, Bandy

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Pacquiao. Possible opponents, we're looking at

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Rawley rematching Barrios. Is that what we're

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talking about? Rawley. I need to be Rawley. Fight

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of the century shit. Have you guys seen Rawley

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in his recent interviews, dude? That dude's devoted.

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Devoted to the Lord. He's so fucking funny, dude.

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Like, if only he wasn't the alleged serial rapist.

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What? I keep forgetting that he's a... I keep

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forgetting he's a rapist. You know that hiatus

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he took between the tank fight and the Barroso

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fight? Yes. He ran into legal trouble. For allegedly.

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Allegedly being a serial rapist. Jesus Christ.

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And allegedly. Intimidating everyone who accused

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them. Into being quiet. Intimidating witnesses.

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So that's what I mean. He's a funny guy. But

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I just like. It's hard to look past that. That's

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what I mean. I've never seen like. Is there like

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a group of it. Like they were released from court.

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I'm sure RJ could pull it. Yeah, RJ's got it

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here. Oh, shit. Hold on. That's people of the

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Philippines. I'm not thinking it. If he did it,

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he did it. I'm just saying, like, I want to see

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that just because I'm so interested in that,

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you know? Yeah, fuck. Did they take that down

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from, like, Bad Left Hook and all the news outlets?

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The big, rolly propaganda. Big, rolly. Big, rolly

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industrial complex. yeah no charges after no

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charges for orlando romero orlando romero accused

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of sexual assault diddy romero diddy romero oh

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jesus i mean yeah i mean crazy yeah that was

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like a whole the whole stuff i was pre -tank

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fight apparently But the point is, it's going

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to be Pacquiao -Rolley just because Barrios is

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probably going to fight someone else. Yeah, remember

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Ryan Garcia was calling him out. Yeah, and draw

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against Ryan Garcia. Do we have more draws than

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Daigo Higa? I need to see him just win. Not even

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win. Let's draw the rest of his career and retire

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champion. 29 -2 in 29. No one can win his title,

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but he can't lose it either. It's great. Would

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that be like hell for a professional fighter?

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Well, for him, it's great. He keeps getting paid.

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It'd be hell for anyone who fights him. Cursed

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to drawing forever. The other name signed up

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for January, Deontay Wilder. Yeah. He said he

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was doing some teaser shit in an interview. Got

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something really big planned. Can't really talk

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about it right now, but we'll... When the time

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comes, you'll be the first to hear about it type

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of shit. Yeah. Honestly, with the stage of Wash

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that Wilder's in, put him in with Dave Allen,

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bro. Yeah, I was going to say Dave Allen or Makudov.

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No, Dave Allen. Makudov's too dangerous at this

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stage. To be fair, we saw how it went when Wilder

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fought Audley Harrison. Who knows? It'd be pretty

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impressive if he became the first guy to drop

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Dave Allen. That'd be pretty crazy, huh? Considering

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that Dave Allen has zero defense and has been

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taking just pastings from every top guy. He'd

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be the American Dave Allen at that point. Not

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true. Wilder's already gotten stopped too many

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times. Yeah, you're right. Dave Allen quits.

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Dave Allen gets tired and quits. It's different.

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Different breeds. I mean... It would be pretty

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cool to see him fight someone like Andy Ruiz.

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Is Ruiz still fighting? Does Ruiz still fight?

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He had a hand injury when he fought Gerald Miller

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in August. I don't know how, bro. That's got

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to be like hitting a pillow. I mean, that would

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be a pretty good fight, too, is him versus Gerald

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Miller. Yeah. Wilder and Gerald Miller. I just

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think, like, I want to see Wilder get at least,

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like, one more crazy knockout. Yeah. Like, I

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don't think Wilder's, like, in it for competitive

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fights anymore. Like, you kind of just have to

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treat him like a circus attraction and see if

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he actually recovers. Jake Paul versus Deontay

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Wilder? Yeah, like, he's kind of, like, again,

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he took seven rounds to beat up a guy on, what

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did he even fight? What promotion did he even

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fight on? BLK Prime. BLK. Oh, my God. Yeah, so

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he's laundering money now. Listen, man, you will

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not be able to convince me that BLK Prime is

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a real, real promotion. I don't think it is.

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You can't. You just can't. You can't convince

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me that anyone would pay Crawford $10 million

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to fight David Evanesian. Is that who he was

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fighting on there? Yep, yep. And they didn't

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even give him... And his gloves exploded during

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the fight. I'm shocked we didn't... I don't even

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believe in Terrence Crawford Glovegate on that

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one. I believe in, like, Everlast gloves being

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shit. No, dude. Like, that's not Glovegate. That's

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Crawford's sponsor being terrible. Or just bad

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pick. Yeah. Oh, yeah, sometimes you get a bad

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pick. Especially because they're MX. They're

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MX2s, so... Those are good gloves. Supposed to

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be good gloves. No, the MX1s are great. The MX2s

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have inconsistent stitching. And hence, explosions.

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Hence, the explosion, yeah. Yeah. Anyways. Ossie

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Card, December 6th. They're bringing out all

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the old favorites. Jaya Pataya, Justice Hooney,

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Jason Maloney. There's a bunch of other names

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on there that I don't recognize. I'm in the weeds

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with this shit and I don't know who these people

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are. They gotta bring out Julius Long for one

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of these. He might be on the card and I just

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don't know who he is. Julius Long is retired

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now. He was 18 and 28. He was 7 -1 and did not

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know how to fight at all so they'd always bring

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out a prospect to beat the shit out of him. God.

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and it was kind of hilarious to see a seven one

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guy like flail around like he has no idea what

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he's doing especially because he weighed like

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300 350 pounds it's pretty funny kept me awake

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when i watched joseph parker jr pha man i forgot

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that happened yeah that's how you know we're

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into that boxing we watched terrible fights for

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Minimal amusement. At like 3 in the morning?

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That was like 7 in the morning. Oh, yeah, for

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you. That shit killed me. Besides the point,

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hopefully... Wait, no, Jason Mulaney isn't the

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one that had the misfortune of fighting Nakatani.

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No, that was Andrew. How's Andrew? This one had

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the misfortune of fighting Inoue. Yes. Yeah.

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It's still unfortunate because you're basically

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dying. Shaving years off of your life. Count

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how many hundreds of thousands you made and take

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that many years off your life. At least the Inoue

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one was pretty clean. It wasn't that bad. Andrew

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getting completely flatlined. After a hard, hard

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fight. Yeah, after taking a beating, getting

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flatlined by Junto, that was scary. But that's

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the Aussie card. Yeah. We'll cover it, probably.

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We'll talk about it when it happens. I mean,

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Justice Hooney, we'll talk about him in a little

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bit, but he had a good fight with Fabio Wardley.

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He could use the old Amir Khan track and say,

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never been outboxed. Man, I was so excited to

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see Wardley getting picked apart and losing.

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I read that my stream was a little behind. My

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legal stream on DAZN .com slash Fabio Wardley

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was lagging behind a little bit. And I just see

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the chat go like, fuck. And I'm like, what is

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it? And it sounds like, no. And then it catches

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up and I was like, oh, fuck's sake, man. I still

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got to see Fabio Wardley on my fucking screen.

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Tozone .com slash Fabio Wardley. Fabio Wardley

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to me is like a Twilight Zone Dave Allen where

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like if Dave Allen was athletic at all. Lost

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20 pounds? If he was athletic at all. Tried.

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You heard me. If he was athletic. No, if he was

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athletic at all. and, like, had stamina and power

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and anything, like, any athletic aspect to his

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game, that's Fabio Wardley. You think David Allen

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is that... That's the analog? Like, athletic?

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No, because, like, he just, like, Fabio Wardley

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just gets, like, Homer Simpson's opponents, low

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-key. High -key? What are you talking about?

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High -key. Like, he just, like, he gets the shit

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smacked out of him. And then he just, like, with

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these bursts of, like, energy, he just loves

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his opponent. Happens every damn time. It's just,

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like, again, Eric Molina had him wobbled. Had

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Fabio Wardley? Yeah, if you watch, it's hilarious.

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Eric Molina, like, wobbles him. And then Fabio

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Wardley, like, doesn't even register being wobbled

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and just, like. Explodes at him again and knocks

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him out. Eric Molina was the school teacher,

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wasn't he? I'm pretty sure. I would not want

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Eric Molina to teach my kids. I think Dishy said

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something on Discord about how Alfred Molina

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would have provided more resistance. For the

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Broadway actor. You mean Otto Octavius? Yes,

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that too. I preferred him in... How is it called?

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Fiddler on the Roof. Fiddler on the Roof. That's

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the one. He was good in that. Bobby on the Roof.

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Bobby on the Roof. I don't know why I said that.

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Still, it's a good one. All right. Besides the

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point, Justice Hooney never been outboxed. Moving

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to some recaps. We've got two good cards. Which

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one do we want to do first? See, I have a lot

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more to say about boots than I do about my personal

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inspiration, David, the Doncaster De La Hoya

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Allen. The Doncaster De La Hoya. Oh, my God.

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What other nicknames does he have? He's got the

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White Rhino. I think that's kind of the joke

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is that he wears like a banana hammock when he

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goes to weigh -ins. Yeah. It's funny. Doncaster

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dummy. Yeah, lots of stuff. Meat enjoyer. At

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this point, yeah. So, we're going first. Out

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of Sheffield, Josh Padley versus Reese Belotti.

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That's the only one I really wanted to talk about.

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Yeah, see, somehow he's better at being an electrician

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than boxing, and I still would not want him to

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fix my power. He should be smart and start his

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own electrical company. Yeah, just start. He's

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made for middle management. That's what Joe Smith

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Jr. did. Just took his boxing winnings and moved

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them into his own company. You know what? He

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owns New Jersey. He owns Long Island Landscaping

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now. Yeah, he does. That's a good gig. He runs

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Long Island Landscaping. He probably enjoys it

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too. He still brings his belts to the job site

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too. It's pretty funny. Just in case anybody

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wants pictures. That's so cool, man. I would

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take a picture. To be fair, if I won a world

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title, you would have to peel that off me. I'd

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have that shit in the shower. The shower is crazy.

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I'd be showering with that thing. Yeah, I would

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take it with me everywhere. I respect it, bro.

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Everyone would be like, oh, what's that? Yeah,

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what's your name? Former WBC world champion.

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Blank. Like, every time I'd introduce myself

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like that. The Doncaster De La Hoya. How have

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you never heard of me? Exactly, dude. Like, if

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you won a world title. And you got, like, one

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of the nice ones, like, with actual gold on it

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and everything. And you had to go wear construction.

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Would you not wear it to wear construction? Like,

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you'd wear it everywhere. Yeah. Montana Love,

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if you remember that name, he won a regional

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belt. And he took that shit with him everywhere.

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Honestly, it was a WBA one, so those things look

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nice. I would also. I, too, would do that. It

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was like the North America Continental something

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or other. Listen, if it was any belt other than

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the English one, I'd take it with me. The English

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belt is less valuable than a belt from the Wiggles.

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That's that one that was like a brown leather

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strap that had just small little shits on it.

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Yeah, like they just put a couple tin dinner

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plates from a soup kitchen on it. Here, I can

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buy one off eBay. 125 Great Britain pounds. For

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a British title? Yeah. Look at this thing. I

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posted the chat. It's so ugly. Yeah, that thing

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is fucking hideous. Like, this is not a belt

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I would be proud of to wear. Like, let me find

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a WBA regional belt. I think he had an IBF North

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Americas. Yeah, those are still pretty cool.

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Like, here. I found a WBA Asia East champion

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belt. And compare it with the English one. At

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least it looks fire. I would take the WBA one

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easily. Yeah, like, I'm wearing that shit to

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the shower once again. Like, they look sick.

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So, like, why does the English one look like

00:18:03.180 --> 00:18:10.519
such a piece of shit? The prestige of the lineage

00:18:10.519 --> 00:18:14.380
and not the appearance of the belt. I was going

00:18:14.380 --> 00:18:17.279
to say, the British Empire doesn't even exist

00:18:17.279 --> 00:18:22.160
anymore. You can't even get your colonized peoples

00:18:22.160 --> 00:18:25.299
to say it looks good at gunpoint. There's no

00:18:25.299 --> 00:18:31.599
one to say it looks good anymore. But there's

00:18:31.599 --> 00:18:33.799
no one to tell you, yes, sir, you're such a great

00:18:33.799 --> 00:18:39.259
champion of England. maybe one won't be lucky

00:18:39.259 --> 00:18:44.539
yeah like nah i'm sure this thing banged in the

00:18:44.539 --> 00:18:51.200
60s before like belts looked good but that one

00:18:51.200 --> 00:18:54.839
shit the wbc gave uh tyson fury when he beat

00:18:54.839 --> 00:19:00.910
who was it billion oh yeah Yeah, the UK belt

00:19:00.910 --> 00:19:02.890
or whatever. That looked better, though. That

00:19:02.890 --> 00:19:05.430
looked fucking good. And, like, I'm not British

00:19:05.430 --> 00:19:08.029
by any stretch, but that looked pretty good.

00:19:10.210 --> 00:19:14.230
When Floyd Mayweather fought fucking McGregor.

00:19:14.230 --> 00:19:17.029
The money belt? The money belt. It was, like,

00:19:17.089 --> 00:19:20.569
gator skin. Gator skin and diamond bedazzling.

00:19:20.670 --> 00:19:25.170
I found a picture. This is... Okay, I would carry

00:19:25.170 --> 00:19:28.329
this just because of the value. I wouldn't carry

00:19:28.329 --> 00:19:32.150
it because of the value. Oh, man. No, I'd carry

00:19:32.150 --> 00:19:35.549
it, to be fair, if I were that rich. Oh, yeah.

00:19:35.630 --> 00:19:42.289
If I were that rich. Shinada just said to my

00:19:42.289 --> 00:19:44.329
picture of the British one, this belt sucks.

00:19:45.490 --> 00:19:48.170
Because it fucking does. She's speaking facts.

00:19:48.490 --> 00:19:53.230
She has no context. This belt sucks. Looks like

00:19:53.230 --> 00:19:56.529
something I made. You probably make something

00:19:56.529 --> 00:19:59.019
better. Yeah, with no context, she already knows

00:19:59.019 --> 00:20:00.759
what we're talking about. With no context, you

00:20:00.759 --> 00:20:05.119
already know. This belt fucking sucks. So I can't

00:20:05.119 --> 00:20:09.759
even blame these people. Anyways, Josh Padley,

00:20:09.920 --> 00:20:13.180
win any title but the English one and then start

00:20:13.180 --> 00:20:19.900
your own electrician's outfit. David Allen drops

00:20:19.900 --> 00:20:23.630
the ball versus Arslanbek Makhmadov. No, he was

00:20:23.630 --> 00:20:28.069
in a round shape. He was the ball, and he didn't

00:20:28.069 --> 00:20:33.609
get dropped. You put it that way. That's a silver

00:20:33.609 --> 00:20:36.769
lining if I've heard one. I felt like David Allen

00:20:36.769 --> 00:20:39.450
was doing a lot better than the commentary was

00:20:39.450 --> 00:20:42.670
saying. Like, the commentary were just straight

00:20:42.670 --> 00:20:45.970
doomers constantly saying, oh, Makhmudov is really,

00:20:46.009 --> 00:20:49.529
really piecing him up, and David Allen isn't

00:20:49.529 --> 00:20:54.079
doing shit. I don't know. I wasn't seeing the

00:20:54.079 --> 00:20:59.740
same thing. Makhmadov was made of paper. I think

00:20:59.740 --> 00:21:01.880
that if David Allen, like what Josh said earlier,

00:21:02.000 --> 00:21:06.440
had athleticism, I think he probably would have

00:21:06.440 --> 00:21:13.039
beaten Makhmadov. If he was in shape ever, he

00:21:13.039 --> 00:21:18.170
probably stops him. If he cared. Not even if

00:21:18.170 --> 00:21:20.250
he cared. At this point, I think he's just stuck

00:21:20.250 --> 00:21:25.490
like that. Like with the jelly belly? Like, my

00:21:25.490 --> 00:21:28.549
cope, if I put on my cope hat, because David

00:21:28.549 --> 00:21:32.190
Allen is an inspiration to every fat, retarded

00:21:32.190 --> 00:21:35.970
keyboard warrior on the planet for getting off

00:21:35.970 --> 00:21:37.809
his couch and fighting world -ranked opponents.

00:21:39.529 --> 00:21:42.809
If I put on my cope hat, Makhmudov held way too

00:21:42.809 --> 00:21:47.299
much and should have been DQ'd. Yeah, that was

00:21:47.299 --> 00:21:49.880
a... Egregious. That was kind of a bummy fight,

00:21:50.000 --> 00:21:52.480
yeah. That was pretty fucking egregious. If I

00:21:52.480 --> 00:21:55.859
put on my reasonable hat, why did Dave keep walking

00:21:55.859 --> 00:21:57.779
into the clinches? He could have just stood still

00:21:57.779 --> 00:21:59.839
and, like, Makhlodov would have missed his clinch

00:21:59.839 --> 00:22:03.819
horribly and you could have punched him. Like,

00:22:04.000 --> 00:22:07.000
again, if Dave Allen... Dave Allen would be a

00:22:07.000 --> 00:22:10.660
great boxer if he could box, had IQ, good coaching,

00:22:10.819 --> 00:22:15.450
athleticism, footwork, whatever. Time to go to

00:22:15.450 --> 00:22:20.049
Ronnie Shields. Time to go to Victor Conte, bro.

00:22:20.109 --> 00:22:23.789
First, you gotta fix the athleticism. That snack

00:22:23.789 --> 00:22:27.529
shit. Get him on that Damon Haney snack shit.

00:22:28.190 --> 00:22:34.410
Snack pack. I just can't. I always get excited

00:22:34.410 --> 00:22:37.150
for Dave Allen fights because they're like a

00:22:37.150 --> 00:22:41.160
guaranteed bum fight. You know? Like, it's the

00:22:41.160 --> 00:22:43.259
same excitement you get from clicking on, like,

00:22:43.279 --> 00:22:45.619
it's the same juvenile excitement you got before

00:22:45.619 --> 00:22:47.759
you watched boxing clicking on, like, a Street

00:22:47.759 --> 00:22:52.140
Beeps video. Worldstar. Yeah, like, that's, like,

00:22:52.220 --> 00:22:54.059
that, like, it's that type of, like, juvenile

00:22:54.059 --> 00:22:56.900
excitement. Like, you know it's gonna be bad

00:22:56.900 --> 00:22:59.579
boxing, but also there's just some allure about

00:22:59.579 --> 00:23:01.900
two fat dudes kicking the shit out of each other.

00:23:03.400 --> 00:23:09.690
It's never boring. Caveman and Fat Dude. It's

00:23:09.690 --> 00:23:13.430
never boring. When it's boring, it's at least

00:23:13.430 --> 00:23:18.869
kind of funny. But that's my take on the fat

00:23:18.869 --> 00:23:23.410
British man losing to the slightly less fat Neanderthal.

00:23:25.650 --> 00:23:27.930
Honestly, you should give Mac Moodle to Richard

00:23:27.930 --> 00:23:30.970
Torres now. No, I said give Mac Moodle to AJ.

00:23:31.930 --> 00:23:36.150
Oh. AJ does need a comeback. I was going to say,

00:23:36.210 --> 00:23:39.329
give Makludov AJ. It'd be so funny to see how

00:23:39.329 --> 00:23:41.609
Eddie Hearn tries to sell it as, oh, he beat

00:23:41.609 --> 00:23:45.529
Dave Allen. So he's clearly a world beater. And

00:23:45.529 --> 00:23:50.430
then AJ, like, probably jabs him and he, like,

00:23:50.450 --> 00:23:53.730
disintegrates. Honestly, I'd rather see Dave

00:23:53.730 --> 00:23:59.289
Allen versus AJ. I don't think AJ could knock

00:23:59.289 --> 00:24:03.160
down Dave Allen. The bet isn't. Does Dave Allen

00:24:03.160 --> 00:24:07.279
win? The betting line is, does AJ knockdown?

00:24:07.500 --> 00:24:11.980
How many knockdowns, if any? Honestly, I mean,

00:24:12.099 --> 00:24:16.420
Dave Allen might have a chance of knocking out

00:24:16.420 --> 00:24:19.940
fucking AJ, dude. If he homers Simpson's AJ,

00:24:20.059 --> 00:24:23.900
homers Simpson's AJ, homers Simpson's AJ in the

00:24:23.900 --> 00:24:27.440
10th round, I might fall out of my chair. That

00:24:27.440 --> 00:24:30.769
would be fucking funny, dude. It's so fucking

00:24:30.769 --> 00:24:34.049
funny. See, but now you're getting into the spirit

00:24:34.049 --> 00:24:36.230
of Dave Allen. You don't actually care about

00:24:36.230 --> 00:24:40.589
the boxing. It's a very juvenile pleasure you

00:24:40.589 --> 00:24:46.609
get out of Dave Allen. He's a 33 -year -old guy

00:24:46.609 --> 00:24:48.930
who used to pee in jugs and blow all of his fights.

00:24:49.150 --> 00:24:53.589
He would show up to a fight. He would wake up,

00:24:55.269 --> 00:24:58.740
pee in one of the jugs under his bed. Go blow

00:24:58.740 --> 00:25:01.759
his entire purse on the horses and then show

00:25:01.759 --> 00:25:09.460
up to fight like Luis Ortiz. Without training.

00:25:09.559 --> 00:25:11.420
He hasn't trained, by the way. His diet has been

00:25:11.420 --> 00:25:13.680
entirely like Hot Pockets and fish and chips.

00:25:16.920 --> 00:25:20.039
The Dillian White fight. The Dillian White fight.

00:25:20.059 --> 00:25:22.079
His coach had to drag him out of a pub to go

00:25:22.079 --> 00:25:25.220
get ready for his fight. It's a juvenile pleasure

00:25:25.220 --> 00:25:27.359
that you get from David Allen, but I don't think

00:25:27.359 --> 00:25:31.299
any other boxer is that much of a disgrace while

00:25:31.299 --> 00:25:36.099
not being outright hateable. They take themselves

00:25:36.099 --> 00:25:42.099
seriously. They take themselves seriously, and

00:25:42.099 --> 00:25:44.920
even the ones who are disgraces are usually evil.

00:25:45.619 --> 00:25:48.740
They're criminals. You can't root for them. This

00:25:48.740 --> 00:25:55.140
is just some guy. He's a disgrace. He's just

00:25:55.140 --> 00:25:59.940
some guy. Yeah. Like he's, he's absolutely, is

00:25:59.940 --> 00:26:05.519
he a disgrace to the sport? Yes. Like I've never

00:26:05.519 --> 00:26:12.599
seen a less professional boxer. Dave Allen versus

00:26:12.599 --> 00:26:16.880
Jake Paul. Jake Paul probably beats him by UD.

00:26:18.230 --> 00:26:21.150
Not even probably. Jake Paul does beat him by

00:26:21.150 --> 00:26:25.309
unanimous decision. You know what? Jake Paul

00:26:25.309 --> 00:26:26.970
fights Dave Allen and beats him and then gets

00:26:26.970 --> 00:26:33.970
the AJ fight. Like I'm saying here, it's comical.

00:26:34.109 --> 00:26:36.250
This guy's career is so fucking funny. He's just

00:26:36.250 --> 00:26:42.410
some guy who gets a knockout against a real...

00:26:42.410 --> 00:26:49.180
Like the Johnny Fisher duology. It's so funny.

00:26:49.859 --> 00:26:52.660
Because of how serious Johnny Fisher takes himself

00:26:52.660 --> 00:26:57.619
as a real boxer. And how this fat dude who pees

00:26:57.619 --> 00:27:02.119
in jugs and somehow has a kid shows up. Beats

00:27:02.119 --> 00:27:05.380
the fuck out of him. Kind of like watching Butterbean,

00:27:05.400 --> 00:27:08.779
you know? The things that Butterbean trained.

00:27:12.140 --> 00:27:17.130
Butterbean is more serious than this guy. Is

00:27:17.130 --> 00:27:19.069
that the heavyweight division for you? Oh, my

00:27:19.069 --> 00:27:22.269
God. That's what I mean. It's just, it's a juvenile

00:27:22.269 --> 00:27:25.589
pleasure to watch David Allen day in, day out.

00:27:25.650 --> 00:27:30.609
I hope he never retires low -key. The only Dave

00:27:30.609 --> 00:27:32.829
Allen fight I would watch, not Dave Allen, but

00:27:32.829 --> 00:27:34.269
the only Lawrence Coley fight I would watch would

00:27:34.269 --> 00:27:36.269
be if he fought Dave Allen. No, you don't want

00:27:36.269 --> 00:27:37.849
to watch that. He'd just, like, they'd be so

00:27:37.849 --> 00:27:40.509
bad. This would be the worst fight ever conceived.

00:27:41.069 --> 00:27:43.009
But you never know. It's that juvenile, like,

00:27:43.049 --> 00:27:47.140
love. David Allen. He might shit him. He might.

00:27:47.160 --> 00:27:50.680
He might shit him. He might also quit halfway

00:27:50.680 --> 00:27:52.779
through the fourth round out of, like, ah, fuck,

00:27:52.859 --> 00:27:57.700
I didn't train for this. I'm tired. I might just

00:27:57.700 --> 00:27:59.380
be a fan of Dave Allen now. I'm not gonna lie.

00:27:59.380 --> 00:28:02.140
Yeah, I think you've converted me. I'm glad.

00:28:02.200 --> 00:28:05.400
I'm glad I've been able to, like, I'm glad, like,

00:28:05.500 --> 00:28:07.799
you didn't get it. Nobody got it because, like,

00:28:07.819 --> 00:28:09.859
everyone on the server who used to watch Dave

00:28:09.859 --> 00:28:12.480
Allen fights, like, basically quit watching boxing.

00:28:13.839 --> 00:28:16.660
I need to sell the newest generation of why I

00:28:16.660 --> 00:28:19.119
like this is the only British fighter I ever

00:28:19.119 --> 00:28:22.559
like and it's because he's like he's actually

00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:26.440
a disgrace to the sport in every sense and that's

00:28:26.440 --> 00:28:29.480
why we love him he's probably the worst boxer

00:28:29.480 --> 00:28:32.119
to have ever lived in terms of people who actually

00:28:32.119 --> 00:28:37.660
do their fucking jobs like imagine a janitor

00:28:37.660 --> 00:28:42.630
who smears shit on the walls Like, that is Dave

00:28:42.630 --> 00:28:47.490
Allen from boxing. But he's funny, and I like

00:28:47.490 --> 00:28:53.910
him. And that's all I care. Imagine the janitor.

00:28:56.430 --> 00:29:06.089
You can't even argue. Like, I'm so right. Oh,

00:29:06.210 --> 00:29:10.009
my God. You're going to get an article about

00:29:10.009 --> 00:29:12.690
this now because I've been kicking back the Crawford

00:29:12.690 --> 00:29:19.430
one in order to write more articles. Anything

00:29:19.430 --> 00:29:24.569
more for David Allen versus Makuro? Never retire.

00:29:24.789 --> 00:29:26.789
I hope he wastes all his money on the horses

00:29:26.789 --> 00:29:31.329
on his back against, like, Usyk. When Usyk runs

00:29:31.329 --> 00:29:34.789
out of money. Usyk's on his way out the door.

00:29:35.420 --> 00:29:38.619
I hope he's back against the next generation

00:29:38.619 --> 00:29:44.420
of top prospects at heavyweight. Somehow. As

00:29:44.420 --> 00:29:46.740
for Makhmudov, I hope he rematches Guido and

00:29:46.740 --> 00:29:49.240
loses even worse. It'd be really funny. I like

00:29:49.240 --> 00:29:56.819
Guido. Reminds me. On the undercard of Enes Lima.

00:29:57.779 --> 00:30:01.960
Oh, right. There was an undercard to that. Yeah,

00:30:02.000 --> 00:30:08.849
Guido Vianello. Stops him in five. Stops Alexis

00:30:08.849 --> 00:30:14.069
Barrier. Or Alexi, I guess I should say. Alexi

00:30:14.069 --> 00:30:24.509
Barrier. He's a Quebec fighter. Not a Quebec

00:30:24.509 --> 00:30:28.029
fighter I particularly care about. He was always

00:30:28.029 --> 00:30:35.609
going to die. Really? It was kind of funny seeing

00:30:35.609 --> 00:30:38.509
guys have hope in Barriere, and I'm like, this

00:30:38.509 --> 00:30:41.289
is a Canadian heavyweight, not named Lennox Lewis.

00:30:42.569 --> 00:30:44.970
Are you serious? Yeah, there's not a whole lot

00:30:44.970 --> 00:30:48.349
to be hoping for here. Like, he beat up a bunch

00:30:48.349 --> 00:30:52.170
of, like, fat Mexicans in Quebec City. No, not

00:30:52.170 --> 00:30:54.710
even. Lacklemy was his last fight against a fat

00:30:54.710 --> 00:31:01.390
Mexican. The Lacklemy Casino. The Hilton in Lacklemy

00:31:01.390 --> 00:31:04.119
is actually a pretty nice casino. I will say,

00:31:04.180 --> 00:31:10.220
having seen it. But prestigious? It is not. It

00:31:10.220 --> 00:31:12.160
is a place where first -year university students

00:31:12.160 --> 00:31:19.200
go and gamble their father's money. I mean, how

00:31:19.200 --> 00:31:20.980
do you guys feel about the Richard Torres win

00:31:20.980 --> 00:31:27.259
over Pianello after this win over Perrier? Do

00:31:27.259 --> 00:31:29.660
you think it ages well? Do you feel the same?

00:31:30.400 --> 00:31:32.980
i feel like guido is like a non -entity in terms

00:31:32.980 --> 00:31:37.220
of like he like he's the perfect like gatekeeper

00:31:37.220 --> 00:31:41.519
type but like heavyweight is so heavyweight is

00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:47.039
so thin though that like he could talk himself

00:31:47.039 --> 00:31:50.940
into an aj fight yeah like vianello could totally

00:31:50.940 --> 00:31:53.200
like just get a random fight against the top

00:31:53.200 --> 00:31:56.839
guy and equally like could stay at this level

00:31:56.839 --> 00:32:00.130
forever And, like, beating him doesn't prove

00:32:00.130 --> 00:32:04.009
you belong at the top level. But losing to him

00:32:04.009 --> 00:32:10.569
for sure means you're out. Yeah. Like, kind of

00:32:10.569 --> 00:32:16.849
crazy seeing what he's up to. I was thinking

00:32:16.849 --> 00:32:20.569
about it, too. Regarding Rich Torres and Guido

00:32:20.569 --> 00:32:23.309
Vanillo. I mean, because Guido's put a match

00:32:23.309 --> 00:32:26.589
from now, right? He's... Probably. I think he

00:32:26.589 --> 00:32:28.910
is a matchroom fighter. Man, I just need Torres

00:32:28.910 --> 00:32:33.630
to step up and lose already. I think, honestly,

00:32:33.970 --> 00:32:36.470
Torres should break away from the top -ranked...

00:32:36.470 --> 00:32:41.069
Yeah, no shit. Honestly, he should go matchroom.

00:32:41.430 --> 00:32:46.750
If Torres wants a long -term career that isn't

00:32:46.750 --> 00:32:49.730
him getting found out quickly, he needs to stay

00:32:49.730 --> 00:32:51.890
in that top -ranked protection program real bad.

00:32:52.410 --> 00:32:55.880
Yeah. Because I watched him at the Olympics get

00:32:55.880 --> 00:32:59.119
completely, like, turned the paste by Jalilov.

00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:03.640
Yeah. Like... Like, knocked out. It's not like

00:33:03.640 --> 00:33:05.220
where he lost a decision, he got knocked out.

00:33:05.240 --> 00:33:07.420
No, he got turned the paste in the Olympic finals.

00:33:08.759 --> 00:33:12.839
Yeah. And I was like, no one can tell me. I didn't

00:33:12.839 --> 00:33:15.200
watch that. I had nothing to do. I was a high

00:33:15.200 --> 00:33:17.099
schooler with no friends. I was a 12th grader

00:33:17.099 --> 00:33:19.900
with no friends during COVID. So, I was watching

00:33:19.900 --> 00:33:23.549
that shit. Well, it wasn't like it was a bad

00:33:23.549 --> 00:33:26.990
fight, you know? No, but he just was not competitive

00:33:26.990 --> 00:33:29.289
in this. Like, he got turned the pace by Jalilov,

00:33:29.289 --> 00:33:32.750
which, like, he hasn't improved since the amateurs,

00:33:32.769 --> 00:33:36.589
so logic follows that any top guy turns him in

00:33:36.589 --> 00:33:39.990
the pace reasonably as well. Especially because

00:33:39.990 --> 00:33:43.269
he's 26. He's not like a young prospect who will

00:33:43.269 --> 00:33:48.039
bounce back 20 times like Dubois did. We'll see

00:33:48.039 --> 00:33:50.400
what happens. He's going to be like 28 when he

00:33:50.400 --> 00:33:55.740
gets his actual chance, and then we'll see. For

00:33:55.740 --> 00:33:58.220
sure, though, if he wants a little more name

00:33:58.220 --> 00:34:00.259
recognition, he should go to Matchroom because

00:34:00.259 --> 00:34:04.500
they have more. Yeah, go fight Dave Allen, bro.

00:34:05.119 --> 00:34:09.659
I need to see more Dave Allen. I have Torres

00:34:09.659 --> 00:34:11.820
winning. I have Torres probably stopping him,

00:34:11.860 --> 00:34:17.539
but give me more Dave Allen. Smear more shit

00:34:17.539 --> 00:34:22.039
on the walls, Mr. Janitor. Exactly. If you really

00:34:22.039 --> 00:34:25.239
hate Torres, you match him up with Fabio Wardley

00:34:25.239 --> 00:34:29.380
immediately. You watch as Torres wins 11 rounds

00:34:29.380 --> 00:34:31.659
and then gets sent into the Shadow Realm with

00:34:31.659 --> 00:34:39.679
a dented skull. If you really hate Richard Torres,

00:34:39.780 --> 00:34:45.809
you want him to fight Fabio Wardley. Point blank,

00:34:45.869 --> 00:34:50.630
period. Speaking of Jalolov, he did fight on

00:34:50.630 --> 00:34:55.630
the 6th. He didn't look great. Vitaly Kudakov

00:34:55.630 --> 00:34:59.489
was the opponent. He did not look... He didn't

00:34:59.489 --> 00:35:05.409
look great against some guy. Rando Russian. Yeah,

00:35:05.449 --> 00:35:08.769
7 and 4 heavyweight with 3 knockouts from, like,

00:35:08.769 --> 00:35:16.869
Chechnya. Or Dagestan, or wherever. Jalalov,

00:35:16.869 --> 00:35:20.150
see, the reason why I choose to make fun of Torres

00:35:20.150 --> 00:35:24.130
for losing to Jalalov that badly in amateur boxing

00:35:24.130 --> 00:35:29.369
instead of rating Jalalov is because Jalalov

00:35:29.369 --> 00:35:32.389
very much has the one pace. He throws ones and

00:35:32.389 --> 00:35:36.570
twos at a very pedestrian pace and has no ambition

00:35:36.570 --> 00:35:39.369
to actually move up in the professionals or even

00:35:39.369 --> 00:35:43.480
to really be there when he fights. He kind of,

00:35:43.480 --> 00:35:45.659
he throws ones and twos and he doesn't really

00:35:45.659 --> 00:35:47.679
have much of an idea of what to do when they

00:35:47.679 --> 00:35:51.780
don't happen. And don't land. He has one gear.

00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:58.699
He has no, like, like he already tested defense

00:35:58.699 --> 00:36:01.039
because he's so big and his jab keeps people

00:36:01.039 --> 00:36:04.820
away. His footwork, he's always coming forward

00:36:04.820 --> 00:36:08.300
so it doesn't really matter. Defense, like. he

00:36:08.300 --> 00:36:10.780
throws ones and twos in the same gear and they

00:36:10.780 --> 00:36:13.199
either knock the guy out or he looks like and

00:36:13.199 --> 00:36:21.420
since his since his best opponent has been like

00:36:21.420 --> 00:36:25.880
camille sokolovsky and curtis harper yeah he's

00:36:25.880 --> 00:36:31.139
gonna look better than he is well you know who

00:36:31.139 --> 00:36:35.760
didn't who doesn't look like geron ennis boots

00:36:36.619 --> 00:36:39.719
Man, I gotta eat my crow here. I really thought

00:36:39.719 --> 00:36:41.739
Lima was gonna give him a better fight than that.

00:36:42.980 --> 00:36:49.360
I really did. Liam could have been Virgil and

00:36:49.360 --> 00:36:53.219
I still would have been like, yup, that's how

00:36:53.219 --> 00:36:58.820
it went with Boots. It feels great to actually

00:36:58.820 --> 00:37:01.639
be right on a guy and for them not to be a fucking

00:37:01.639 --> 00:37:03.940
bust when you're high on a guy from the very

00:37:03.940 --> 00:37:09.420
start. It feels great. I will say that Boots,

00:37:09.460 --> 00:37:11.960
that performance, I knew he was going to get

00:37:11.960 --> 00:37:17.119
at Lima. I mean, we just didn't know when. Yeah.

00:37:17.960 --> 00:37:22.559
But the thing is that at the same time, first

00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:25.920
round knockout and the way he did it, oh my God,

00:37:25.980 --> 00:37:31.360
it was beautiful. I'm not going to say Lima is

00:37:31.360 --> 00:37:34.739
all that and hype him up because Lima is Lima.

00:37:35.239 --> 00:37:38.719
Yeah. But I will say that for a lot of people

00:37:38.719 --> 00:37:40.519
that were going, like, the boots is potential,

00:37:40.760 --> 00:37:46.960
man. Like, no, he's, like... Like, I'm glad he

00:37:46.960 --> 00:37:50.519
had a spot where his highlight can actually circulate

00:37:50.519 --> 00:37:53.340
online with his name on it so people know who

00:37:53.340 --> 00:37:55.480
he is. Because everyone's... Like, if you look

00:37:55.480 --> 00:37:58.980
at boxing highlight compilations, he's been on

00:37:58.980 --> 00:38:03.440
them in his showbox days. Yeah. It's just...

00:38:03.599 --> 00:38:06.340
His name is never on them. He finally has highlights

00:38:06.340 --> 00:38:10.320
with his name on them, and he's there. He's ready.

00:38:10.559 --> 00:38:14.280
I think the Virgil fight, he's going to smoke

00:38:14.280 --> 00:38:17.139
Virgil and everything, but I'm glad he's getting

00:38:17.139 --> 00:38:21.519
these names. He's no longer a potential man.

00:38:22.239 --> 00:38:27.219
I will say for the Lima fight, I think everybody

00:38:27.219 --> 00:38:30.820
besides Virgil at 154, I don't see them doing

00:38:30.820 --> 00:38:34.659
the same way that they did Lima. I think Boots,

00:38:34.739 --> 00:38:38.159
the way that Boots did it too was just that uppercut

00:38:38.159 --> 00:38:41.820
was nasty. No, but it's just like the... How

00:38:41.820 --> 00:38:44.800
he tricked, how he made Lima fall into his trap.

00:38:45.539 --> 00:38:48.039
You know? Again, I've said, I've said, I've said

00:38:48.039 --> 00:38:49.900
like the part, probably the most dangerous part

00:38:49.900 --> 00:38:53.139
about Boots is that like the way he steps up

00:38:53.139 --> 00:38:55.940
his game to how he wants to try, which means

00:38:55.940 --> 00:38:57.760
we have, we still haven't seen like an upper

00:38:57.760 --> 00:39:01.739
ceiling for Boots. I don't think we have. That's

00:39:01.739 --> 00:39:04.699
going to come when we... We have yet to see his

00:39:04.699 --> 00:39:07.480
upper ceiling. But probably the most dangerous

00:39:07.480 --> 00:39:12.539
part because, like, people will poke at how he

00:39:12.539 --> 00:39:14.559
has somewhat of a leaky defense, but, I mean,

00:39:14.639 --> 00:39:17.780
nobody's been a KO threat to him, for the record,

00:39:17.820 --> 00:39:21.800
for him to actually care about defense. He has

00:39:21.800 --> 00:39:25.789
a chin. He has a hell of a chin. I don't know

00:39:25.789 --> 00:39:28.090
if it's really been tested yet too much. If you

00:39:28.090 --> 00:39:30.849
look at the Via fight, the shots he knocks Via

00:39:30.849 --> 00:39:33.590
out with, Via catches them right clean at the

00:39:33.590 --> 00:39:38.369
same time. Is Roman Via a hard puncher though?

00:39:38.650 --> 00:39:43.409
Yes. Extremely hard puncher. He's like a club

00:39:43.409 --> 00:39:46.730
level fighter with world level power. Yeah, like

00:39:46.730 --> 00:39:50.699
straight up. The only reason he... I don't know

00:39:50.699 --> 00:39:52.360
too much about Romelu Villa, though. That's what

00:39:52.360 --> 00:39:55.579
I'm saying. What's the best guy he knocked out?

00:39:55.719 --> 00:39:58.480
What's the best guy he knocked out? If it wasn't

00:39:58.480 --> 00:40:00.760
for the ref, he basically broke Rashidi Ellis'

00:40:00.920 --> 00:40:04.199
face in the last round. He was getting owned

00:40:04.199 --> 00:40:06.900
for the entire fight. And then he knocked Rashidi

00:40:06.900 --> 00:40:12.039
Ellis down three or four times. Shit. Okay. Yeah.

00:40:12.340 --> 00:40:16.699
And broke his face. Yeah, that's what I mean.

00:40:16.739 --> 00:40:18.920
Like, he is the most club -level guy you'll ever

00:40:18.920 --> 00:40:23.460
see. But, like, getting caught clean by Roman

00:40:23.460 --> 00:40:31.300
Villa is no joke. Yeah, you know what? Same with

00:40:31.300 --> 00:40:34.880
Avanisian. Avanisian is also kind of like a club

00:40:34.880 --> 00:40:41.059
-level guy with good, solid power. And, like,

00:40:41.139 --> 00:40:46.860
Ennis just takes the shot. He doesn't even try

00:40:46.860 --> 00:40:49.570
and defend it. He sees it, takes it. That's it.

00:40:50.510 --> 00:40:52.449
So I think that's probably the most threatening

00:40:52.449 --> 00:40:55.829
part of it, where, like, let's say Virgil does

00:40:55.829 --> 00:40:58.650
get to him with some offense. Virgil will be

00:40:58.650 --> 00:41:01.550
staring down the barrel of a loaded gun. I don't

00:41:01.550 --> 00:41:04.170
know. With boots. I mean, I still think that

00:41:04.170 --> 00:41:06.130
Virgil is going to give him a good fight. I still

00:41:06.130 --> 00:41:10.949
think, as biased as I am in this, I still think

00:41:10.949 --> 00:41:14.059
that Virgil has a chance of winning. I have a

00:41:14.059 --> 00:41:16.659
50 -50 now. After that fight, I have a 50 -50.

00:41:16.739 --> 00:41:20.840
I just think Virgil needs to have intangibles

00:41:20.840 --> 00:41:23.480
he hasn't shown. I don't mean intangibles like

00:41:23.480 --> 00:41:26.639
having a dog or anything. He has a dog. I'm saying

00:41:26.639 --> 00:41:30.119
Virgil needs God -level chin and recovery that

00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:33.559
we haven't seen from him yet. I will say that

00:41:33.559 --> 00:41:37.880
from the Bojack fight, he got it twice. Again,

00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:42.190
Bojack is not the greatest. at least from what

00:41:42.190 --> 00:41:46.289
i've seen now yeah he doesn't have um he has

00:41:46.289 --> 00:41:50.150
power but he's not like world and russian power

00:41:50.150 --> 00:41:52.909
yeah exactly it's not and it's not it's not power

00:41:52.909 --> 00:41:55.030
that like they both check will catch you with

00:41:55.030 --> 00:41:57.769
the power and it's power but it's the thing with

00:41:57.769 --> 00:42:00.369
boots is that like it's fast you don't see it

00:42:00.369 --> 00:42:04.550
speed yeah like there's a he he's he's obviously

00:42:04.550 --> 00:42:08.289
fearful but like just the way he he crafts his

00:42:08.289 --> 00:42:12.289
counters like you don't see it either So, and

00:42:12.289 --> 00:42:15.230
that's like, again, Virgil will need a crazy

00:42:15.230 --> 00:42:20.909
chin or crazy awareness to see, like, to be able

00:42:20.909 --> 00:42:23.250
to stare down the barrel of that loaded gun and

00:42:23.250 --> 00:42:27.610
get offense off. I will say that Virgil, he has

00:42:27.610 --> 00:42:30.170
a really underrated defense. He has a pretty

00:42:30.170 --> 00:42:32.989
sophisticated high guard. When he does use it,

00:42:33.050 --> 00:42:35.630
when he does use it, in the match -em -up fight,

00:42:35.690 --> 00:42:40.269
he set up some traps. Oh, for sure. It was really

00:42:40.269 --> 00:42:44.190
nice to see. Again, that's why I mentioned Boots.

00:42:44.429 --> 00:42:49.349
I think Boots wins if they trade, though. I don't

00:42:49.349 --> 00:42:52.909
know. Because at the same time, yes, Boots knocked

00:42:52.909 --> 00:42:59.050
out Lima, but I mean, Virgil has beaten the better

00:42:59.050 --> 00:43:02.389
opponents at 1 -3 -4. For the barometer of if

00:43:02.389 --> 00:43:07.329
they trade shots, who wins, Virgil was... He

00:43:07.329 --> 00:43:13.710
had to box against Boachuk. Boots just blew up

00:43:13.710 --> 00:43:19.690
Villa while taking overhand rights straight to

00:43:19.690 --> 00:43:24.510
the chin and not even wobbling. I mean, at the

00:43:24.510 --> 00:43:27.030
same time, can you handle a shot from Virgil?

00:43:27.550 --> 00:43:33.190
Yeah, probably. Again, Roman Villa is like, if

00:43:33.190 --> 00:43:35.360
you had a character creator... You basically

00:43:35.360 --> 00:43:37.800
put, like, on a scale of 1 to 10, you put a 1

00:43:37.800 --> 00:43:41.099
in everything and stick an 11 in power. My thing

00:43:41.099 --> 00:43:44.159
is, if he really had an 11 in power, why didn't

00:43:44.159 --> 00:43:46.679
he knock out Boots? You know? I feel like if

00:43:46.679 --> 00:43:48.500
he had, like, crazy power... That's Boots' chin,

00:43:48.679 --> 00:43:50.820
though. That's what I say about Boots' awareness

00:43:50.820 --> 00:43:53.519
and his chin. He had the awareness to see it

00:43:53.519 --> 00:43:57.440
coming and the chin to soak it. I would say maybe...

00:43:57.440 --> 00:44:01.139
I don't know. I would say that Boots' chin hasn't

00:44:01.139 --> 00:44:03.940
been tested yet just because... I mean, again...

00:44:04.269 --> 00:44:06.670
It's a guy that, if he really did have a lot

00:44:06.670 --> 00:44:08.769
of power, he would have knocked out Boots. Boots

00:44:08.769 --> 00:44:12.610
would have respected his power. I know. I feel

00:44:12.610 --> 00:44:14.409
like we'll see when the fight happens, if Boots

00:44:14.409 --> 00:44:17.590
really respects Virgil or not. Yeah. Because

00:44:17.590 --> 00:44:19.750
I still, like, again, we've seen Virgil's upper

00:44:19.750 --> 00:44:24.289
ceiling tested. I still don't think we've seen

00:44:24.289 --> 00:44:28.030
all of Boots. Yeah. No, you know what? And that's...

00:44:28.840 --> 00:44:32.519
Like, he's still potential man, but, like, it's

00:44:32.519 --> 00:44:34.719
potential man in that, like, you got to see him

00:44:34.719 --> 00:44:39.280
fight someone now. There's no more. I agree and

00:44:39.280 --> 00:44:41.179
I disagree with you to an extent. I feel like

00:44:41.179 --> 00:44:44.340
we know how Virgil gets when he's taken to his

00:44:44.340 --> 00:44:48.179
limit. But I feel like he still has a ceiling

00:44:48.179 --> 00:44:50.800
he hasn't reached yet regarding his skill. Yeah.

00:44:50.980 --> 00:44:55.039
You know? If that makes any sense. Because mostly

00:44:55.039 --> 00:44:57.659
he's relied on being able to get guys out, right?

00:44:58.449 --> 00:45:02.829
Yeah. Yeah. Man, I'm still... I'm still chowing

00:45:02.829 --> 00:45:06.329
down on my fucking crow over here. I was talking

00:45:06.329 --> 00:45:10.530
a lot of shit about Luisma Lima. I'm just, like,

00:45:10.550 --> 00:45:13.329
I'm happy we see it, though. The obvious, obvious

00:45:13.329 --> 00:45:18.429
talent. Yes. Present. Yeah. Undeniable proof.

00:45:19.289 --> 00:45:22.909
Yeah, like, it's not just, like, oh, but... Like,

00:45:22.909 --> 00:45:25.000
the thing is that you should have, like... It's

00:45:25.000 --> 00:45:27.340
the stage, I guess. The fact that he has a highlight.

00:45:28.320 --> 00:45:33.900
I don't know. You should have been sold on Ennis,

00:45:34.039 --> 00:45:36.500
realistically, when he beat the fuck out of Lipinets.

00:45:37.440 --> 00:45:40.039
The Lipinets fight is when you should have been

00:45:40.039 --> 00:45:43.380
sold. I think Lipinets is a better opponent than

00:45:43.380 --> 00:45:48.559
Romain Villa. Oh, I know. Absolutely. I'm just

00:45:48.559 --> 00:45:51.800
saying the Villa fight in regards to Ennis' chin.

00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:56.659
Because, again, You don't trade with Via. Via's

00:45:56.659 --> 00:45:59.800
fight right before boots was a perfect lesson

00:45:59.800 --> 00:46:07.619
in not trading with Via. Again, Rashidi Ellis

00:46:07.619 --> 00:46:12.179
had his face fucking broken by Via. This guy's

00:46:12.179 --> 00:46:16.699
a horrible boxer. Straight up. Club level fighter.

00:46:16.960 --> 00:46:19.460
As Leo said, club level fighter with this power

00:46:19.460 --> 00:46:23.780
is insane. World level. And even then, I'm not

00:46:23.780 --> 00:46:27.099
going to glaze Karen at Chukazadian at all because

00:46:27.099 --> 00:46:30.099
I've already gone on a couple tangents on this

00:46:30.099 --> 00:46:32.719
podcast before about how he's an incredibly negative

00:46:32.719 --> 00:46:36.440
fighter. But there's also a non -zero chance

00:46:36.440 --> 00:46:40.880
that he can probably end up in the mix in a dead

00:46:40.880 --> 00:46:45.559
welterweight division. Chukazian was fighting.

00:46:45.699 --> 00:46:49.800
He fought the same day as Ennis. And he looked

00:46:49.800 --> 00:46:54.090
good. He looked good. Yeah. He got a stoppage,

00:46:54.090 --> 00:46:57.929
if I'm not mistaken. It says UD. What was that?

00:46:58.070 --> 00:47:00.090
No, no, UD. That was earlier. Yeah, he got a

00:47:00.090 --> 00:47:03.030
stoppage. I saw it on Twitter. Yeah, that's right.

00:47:03.510 --> 00:47:06.989
So those wins are aging nicely. They'll age.

00:47:07.150 --> 00:47:12.949
And I think there's going to be a guy who they

00:47:12.949 --> 00:47:17.809
think boots isn't all that and Chukadzadian's

00:47:17.809 --> 00:47:20.090
easy pickings at some point if he floats around

00:47:20.090 --> 00:47:26.110
the rankings. At 147. There's not a whole lot

00:47:26.110 --> 00:47:29.869
going on there. No, so let's say Norman beats

00:47:29.869 --> 00:47:33.610
Haney, thinks he's top shit. It's very realistic

00:47:33.610 --> 00:47:36.989
that we see Chuka Zadian in there, and Chuka

00:47:36.989 --> 00:47:42.010
Zadian gives him a much harder time. The one

00:47:42.010 --> 00:47:45.730
thing I will say about boots is, and Virgil,

00:47:45.789 --> 00:47:46.969
by the way, going back to that a little bit,

00:47:47.269 --> 00:47:52.050
Virgil has the better trainer, absolutely. You

00:47:52.050 --> 00:47:54.809
think he's better than Bozy? Bozy's a solid trainer,

00:47:54.809 --> 00:47:58.630
though. I am not sold on Bozy the same way I'm

00:47:58.630 --> 00:48:01.070
not sold on, like, Virgil Hunter. Because, again,

00:48:01.150 --> 00:48:04.409
both of these guys just happen to be given the

00:48:04.409 --> 00:48:07.630
best talent ever to exist. It's really tough

00:48:07.630 --> 00:48:10.530
to fumble it. Because it's not like Wilder, where,

00:48:10.590 --> 00:48:13.130
like, Wilder was crude material with potential.

00:48:13.510 --> 00:48:16.730
Guys like Andre Ward and Boots are, like, you

00:48:16.730 --> 00:48:20.199
were just given a complete product. Well, Virgil

00:48:20.199 --> 00:48:24.139
Hunter had other guys like Amir Khan and Abner

00:48:24.139 --> 00:48:25.780
Maris at the tail end of his career. Yeah, but

00:48:25.780 --> 00:48:28.199
not from the start. Oh, from the start. Okay.

00:48:28.380 --> 00:48:32.159
Like I'm saying, he got given them and he didn't

00:48:32.159 --> 00:48:36.500
really do much with them. Made them more negative

00:48:36.500 --> 00:48:42.000
fighters? In Khan's case, yes. Maris, no. For

00:48:42.000 --> 00:48:44.760
Khan, that was a necessity. Yeah, like for Khan,

00:48:44.960 --> 00:48:47.360
he kind of got Khan to embrace his vulnerabilities,

00:48:47.460 --> 00:48:51.480
which is... There's too many of them already.

00:48:51.900 --> 00:48:53.900
But that's what I mean. The verdict is out on

00:48:53.900 --> 00:48:56.119
these trainers because you haven't seen them

00:48:56.119 --> 00:48:59.000
work except for with their masterwork that was

00:48:59.000 --> 00:49:03.599
given to them. Bozy has Stephen Fulton. Yeah.

00:49:04.980 --> 00:49:07.280
That's also a complete product being put into

00:49:07.280 --> 00:49:12.199
your... Into your hands. Yeah. Like Ennis. Say

00:49:12.199 --> 00:49:14.820
what you will. Oh, it's Ennis' kid. Like Ennis?

00:49:15.970 --> 00:49:20.010
If you fucked up with a guy of Ennis' caliber,

00:49:20.329 --> 00:49:23.769
what are you doing? Someone like Eddie Reynoso

00:49:23.769 --> 00:49:28.789
would do that shit. I generally think Eddie Reynoso

00:49:28.789 --> 00:49:31.429
is a negative trainer. Hey, Reynoso did the best

00:49:31.429 --> 00:49:33.610
he could with Canelo. But again, Canelo walked

00:49:33.610 --> 00:49:40.530
into his door, into his gym as a supremely good

00:49:40.530 --> 00:49:45.369
raw talent. And he was even trained by Eddie

00:49:45.369 --> 00:49:48.690
at the beginning. Yeah, it was Chepo. That's

00:49:48.690 --> 00:49:53.469
what I mean. I'm not sold on Bozy until we see

00:49:53.469 --> 00:49:57.150
Boots get into a fight. He can't just blow the

00:49:57.150 --> 00:50:03.630
guy out. He seems like a good trainer. Oh, he's

00:50:03.630 --> 00:50:05.369
a good trainer. I'm not saying he's a bad trainer.

00:50:05.510 --> 00:50:11.070
I'm just saying you don't... He's definitely

00:50:11.070 --> 00:50:14.820
weaker than Robert Garcia. Yeah. He's not Robert.

00:50:14.960 --> 00:50:18.420
There you go, Garcia. Robert, like, the thing,

00:50:18.500 --> 00:50:20.719
like, the way I look at Robert Garcia, like,

00:50:20.760 --> 00:50:23.539
the best way to, like, Robert Garcia's best product,

00:50:23.559 --> 00:50:30.039
other than Bam, is that, like, look at Marcos

00:50:30.039 --> 00:50:35.059
Maidana before and after he came to Garcia. Oh,

00:50:35.079 --> 00:50:38.900
yeah. You took a guy who was basic, again, club

00:50:38.900 --> 00:50:42.210
fighter with enormous power. with bad nutrition

00:50:42.210 --> 00:50:47.730
and everything. Just generally a good fighter,

00:50:47.769 --> 00:50:54.250
but not a working world -level one. You made

00:50:54.250 --> 00:50:58.170
him be able to share the ring 24 rounds of Mayweather.

00:51:00.730 --> 00:51:05.409
Somewhat competently. That's what you want to

00:51:05.409 --> 00:51:07.130
see from a trainer, getting these fighters in

00:51:07.130 --> 00:51:10.190
the stable, really. At least tactically, right?

00:51:12.860 --> 00:51:17.139
I think AJ was unresponsive to Garcia rather

00:51:17.139 --> 00:51:21.380
than Garcia being a bad fit. How many trainers

00:51:21.380 --> 00:51:26.059
has AJ gone through? Exactly. AJ only responds

00:51:26.059 --> 00:51:29.940
to his buddies instead of... Garcia was a good

00:51:29.940 --> 00:51:31.719
fit. That was probably the best AJ ever looked

00:51:31.719 --> 00:51:40.710
that second fight with Usyk. But it's Usyk. What

00:51:40.710 --> 00:51:45.630
does Enes do next? The champions right now are

00:51:45.630 --> 00:51:49.630
Mertes Aliev with the IBF, Zayas with WBO, Fundora

00:51:49.630 --> 00:51:56.730
has WBC, and Abbas Barou with the WBA. I'm going

00:51:56.730 --> 00:51:58.170
to tell you this right now, dude. I'm going to

00:51:58.170 --> 00:52:00.690
tell you this right now. There's no chance he's

00:52:00.690 --> 00:52:02.489
getting Zayas. There's no chance he's getting

00:52:02.489 --> 00:52:06.750
Fundora. The rumor... He might get Murazailov,

00:52:06.809 --> 00:52:09.710
but Baru is the most likely option. The rumor

00:52:09.710 --> 00:52:14.789
right now is that he's going... Turkey's going

00:52:14.789 --> 00:52:18.670
to put together the... He's giving Boots a quick

00:52:18.670 --> 00:52:24.269
turnaround and having him fighting Baru. For

00:52:24.269 --> 00:52:30.030
the full title? In December or January on a ring

00:52:30.030 --> 00:52:37.730
card. Okay. and in a ring card that's the rumor

00:52:37.730 --> 00:52:42.110
right now and then that's the setup um virgil

00:52:42.110 --> 00:52:47.469
and uh ennis if virgil makes it past lubin i'm

00:52:47.469 --> 00:52:51.150
gonna say this that i feel like i i can't understand

00:52:51.150 --> 00:52:55.409
it but that's the kind of dangerous i think well

00:52:55.409 --> 00:52:59.090
i like the thing is that it all hinges it all

00:52:59.090 --> 00:53:02.010
hinges on uh lubin and virgil because there's

00:53:02.010 --> 00:53:05.590
no risk for ennis Not against Baru. With Baru,

00:53:05.650 --> 00:53:09.369
no. That's the thing. You're just giving Ennis

00:53:09.369 --> 00:53:11.309
a belt, so that way the fight means something

00:53:11.309 --> 00:53:15.429
in terms of a belt situation. But doesn't a quick

00:53:15.429 --> 00:53:17.010
turnaround time like that, isn't that kind of

00:53:17.010 --> 00:53:21.389
dangerous? Not if your fight lasted two minutes.

00:53:22.409 --> 00:53:25.170
And you didn't take any damage. Two minutes,

00:53:25.250 --> 00:53:28.550
you took zero punches, and it's a weight class

00:53:28.550 --> 00:53:31.809
you're way more comfortable at. But I mean the

00:53:31.809 --> 00:53:34.610
amount of training he would be doing. He trains

00:53:34.610 --> 00:53:36.409
year in, year round. That guy doesn't have internet,

00:53:36.590 --> 00:53:39.829
dude. Do you follow his Instagram? I do follow

00:53:39.829 --> 00:53:41.309
his Instagram. I know what he does, but I just

00:53:41.309 --> 00:53:43.949
feel like being in training camp. This guy's

00:53:43.949 --> 00:53:46.409
in camp year round, dude. I haven't seen a post

00:53:46.409 --> 00:53:48.409
of him. I haven't seen a story post of him outside

00:53:48.409 --> 00:53:51.750
of the gym in two years. I'm just saying like

00:53:51.750 --> 00:53:55.989
on the mental psyche. I get the overtraining,

00:53:56.110 --> 00:53:59.469
but I feel like if Boots is overtraining, he's

00:53:59.469 --> 00:54:04.579
already doing that. He was posting shit on the

00:54:04.579 --> 00:54:07.960
treadmill today. No, no. I'll tell you this.

00:54:08.099 --> 00:54:10.340
You're right. I follow Boots on Instagram. He

00:54:10.340 --> 00:54:13.059
doesn't post anything else. I haven't seen him

00:54:13.059 --> 00:54:15.800
post anything regarding the club. Yeah, no. He's

00:54:15.800 --> 00:54:20.840
either at the gym or fight week promotion. Yeah.

00:54:21.800 --> 00:54:25.659
I don't see him outside of that gym. Yeah. He's

00:54:25.659 --> 00:54:28.280
doing sprints on the treadmill in a sweatsuit

00:54:28.280 --> 00:54:33.340
today. That is fucking bonkers. 13 hours ago.

00:54:33.460 --> 00:54:39.219
Here, I'll send it. I'll send it. That is fucking

00:54:39.219 --> 00:54:43.000
bananas. He is in a sweatsuit sprinting on a

00:54:43.000 --> 00:54:46.719
treadmill. Already. With the caption right back

00:54:46.719 --> 00:54:52.980
to it. He's always done this. So you think they

00:54:52.980 --> 00:54:57.119
gave that rumor some merit? Yeah. Like literally.

00:54:58.379 --> 00:55:01.980
Like here, right after he beat Stani Onus, a

00:55:01.980 --> 00:55:03.980
week later, he was posting sparring pictures.

00:55:05.079 --> 00:55:07.659
I feel like if they're going to put it in January,

00:55:07.780 --> 00:55:09.719
they're probably going to put it either co -main

00:55:09.719 --> 00:55:13.239
or T .O .P. Moe Shikuru. Yeah, like you said,

00:55:13.340 --> 00:55:14.940
it's going to be on a ring card. The rumor is

00:55:14.940 --> 00:55:17.679
that it's going to be on a ring card. A bow is

00:55:17.679 --> 00:55:20.920
the rumored opponent, but it doesn't really matter

00:55:20.920 --> 00:55:22.480
who it is. A bow is the one that makes the most

00:55:22.480 --> 00:55:27.090
sense for the belt. So that way, Virgil... boots

00:55:27.090 --> 00:55:29.869
is for a belt. If it's someone like where does

00:55:29.869 --> 00:55:33.750
I live? I don't know, dude. I don't think it's

00:55:33.750 --> 00:55:37.289
going to be what do you say? Baccarat? Yeah,

00:55:37.289 --> 00:55:41.269
Baccarat. It's not going to be Baccarat because

00:55:41.269 --> 00:55:47.349
actually non -zero chance it is Baccarat. If

00:55:47.349 --> 00:55:50.389
Lubin for whatever reason beats Virgil, it could

00:55:50.389 --> 00:55:53.530
be Baccarat. It's not going to be Pandora. I'll

00:55:53.530 --> 00:55:55.429
tell you right now. No, it's absolutely not.

00:55:56.139 --> 00:55:58.780
Not Fundora, not Zayas. I mean, if Fundora's

00:55:58.780 --> 00:56:00.739
here ducking Thurman, he's not fighting Boots.

00:56:01.159 --> 00:56:05.019
Yeah. Ducking Thurman. That's the fakest hand

00:56:05.019 --> 00:56:07.000
injury I've ever seen. You shouldn't even be,

00:56:07.059 --> 00:56:09.239
like, three weeks out from a world title fight,

00:56:09.320 --> 00:56:11.780
you should not be doing strenuous hard work.

00:56:12.179 --> 00:56:16.340
You should be making sure you're on weight. If

00:56:16.340 --> 00:56:18.260
you're out here breaking your hand sparring,

00:56:18.360 --> 00:56:21.900
and, like, no, it's not happening. You are not

00:56:21.900 --> 00:56:27.619
a Japanese fighter. another jab you are not a

00:56:27.619 --> 00:56:30.079
japanese fighter dude like like i'm for real

00:56:30.079 --> 00:56:33.320
like three weeks three like three weeks out from

00:56:33.320 --> 00:56:36.519
a world title fight you should not be breaking

00:56:36.519 --> 00:56:41.079
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copy it over. Oh, man, I'm really professional.

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That's okay. This is a broadcast that talks about

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the janitor and how bad of a job he does. I have

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it. I just forgot to copy it. If there's any

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clip you post on Instagram or anything, it's

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got to be the janitor. We got to tag Dave Allen

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in that post, so that way he'll have it. He'll

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have a laugh. So, as we were talking about before

01:00:32.250 --> 01:00:36.550
the break, Fundora Thurman postponed. Fundora

01:00:36.550 --> 01:00:41.530
injured? Question mark. It sucks. There's a lot

01:00:41.530 --> 01:00:46.050
of good fights on this. Not injured. Not injured

01:00:46.050 --> 01:00:49.510
or if injured, idiotic. Completely like, this

01:00:49.510 --> 01:00:54.670
is so stupid. Man, you really gotta wonder what

01:00:54.670 --> 01:00:56.989
happens with these fights that are on the undercard,

01:00:57.130 --> 01:01:00.250
because there's some good ones. Fucking, like,

01:01:00.309 --> 01:01:02.469
how many times has Fulton had, like, cancelled

01:01:02.469 --> 01:01:04.469
undercard fights, dude? He's gotta go start getting

01:01:04.469 --> 01:01:07.610
insurance for that. Yeah, no kidding. He's gotta

01:01:07.610 --> 01:01:09.909
do something. This fucking guy needs to get some

01:01:09.909 --> 01:01:12.050
insurance for that, because every time Fundora

01:01:12.050 --> 01:01:14.949
doesn't want to fight, like, a guy not from Australia.

01:01:18.610 --> 01:01:23.880
Fuck's sake, man. I was looking forward to Oshaki

01:01:23.880 --> 01:01:27.039
Foster versus Stephen Fulton. That too. I was

01:01:27.039 --> 01:01:33.099
really excited for that. Jesus Ramos and Shane

01:01:33.099 --> 01:01:36.940
Mosley Jr. is also a good fight. I like Jesus

01:01:36.940 --> 01:01:43.239
Ramos. Yeah, me too. Lining up for Carlos Adamas.

01:01:43.780 --> 01:01:47.320
Yeah, that's a banger. Even if Shane Mosley Jr.

01:01:47.480 --> 01:01:53.250
isn't the best, he comes to fight. Yeah. He comes

01:01:53.250 --> 01:01:59.230
to fight. He is a guy, and he's all right. The

01:01:59.230 --> 01:02:01.710
Oshaki -Foster -Steven -Fulton fight was going

01:02:01.710 --> 01:02:05.750
to be a banger. I'm pretty high on Fulton, and

01:02:05.750 --> 01:02:12.510
more than that, Foster is pretty him at 130.

01:02:15.170 --> 01:02:17.710
Yeah, it's interesting for Fulton to move up.

01:02:18.929 --> 01:02:23.360
He loses to Inouye, moves up a division. snags

01:02:23.360 --> 01:02:26.179
a title and then moves up again going for another

01:02:26.179 --> 01:02:29.119
one. Did you see his tweet? He said, fuck it,

01:02:29.199 --> 01:02:35.300
I'm moving to 147. That's probably what he doesn't

01:02:35.300 --> 01:02:40.559
have to cut. Yeah, but I think, honestly, if

01:02:40.559 --> 01:02:42.900
we're hating on Devin Haney, him and Haney are

01:02:42.900 --> 01:02:48.380
probably a good fight. 147 is kind of desolate.

01:02:48.519 --> 01:02:52.769
Steven Fulton would be tiny. Yeah, but I mean,

01:02:52.829 --> 01:02:59.210
there's no risk. I'm saying if he makes the stupid

01:02:59.210 --> 01:03:02.389
move going to 147, Haney, after losing to Norman,

01:03:02.550 --> 01:03:05.949
does need a bounce back. That is fucking crazy.

01:03:06.369 --> 01:03:09.989
And honestly, for Fulton, it's a good idea if

01:03:09.989 --> 01:03:12.150
he thinks he can actually do it because Haney

01:03:12.150 --> 01:03:18.050
is not a KO risk. Are you a retired Haney -iac?

01:03:19.460 --> 01:03:23.039
haney uh i was on i was on i was big on haney

01:03:23.039 --> 01:03:26.579
and then i'm like okay you know what like here

01:03:26.579 --> 01:03:28.139
let me let me pull up his box right because i

01:03:28.139 --> 01:03:33.460
need to get my timeline right devil haney devil

01:03:33.460 --> 01:03:39.199
yeah like i was like okay like gamboa lenares

01:03:39.199 --> 01:03:44.880
and like pedo diaz are like like okay like they're

01:03:44.880 --> 01:03:46.980
like they're still like quality opponents so

01:03:46.980 --> 01:03:48.940
it makes sense like a ud is still pretty good

01:03:48.940 --> 01:03:51.139
like you know the fights are fun whatever right

01:03:51.139 --> 01:03:56.659
he's totally gonna stop this fucking cambozos

01:03:56.659 --> 01:04:01.519
guy where like teofimo was literally dying in

01:04:01.519 --> 01:04:07.900
the ring and still almost stopped him um and

01:04:07.900 --> 01:04:12.199
then uh my eyes closed during round 7 of his

01:04:12.199 --> 01:04:14.460
first fight with Cambosos and didn't wake up

01:04:14.460 --> 01:04:18.260
until the decision was being read. Well done.

01:04:18.340 --> 01:04:25.340
And I'm like, oh, no. Okay, okay. Maybe I'm the

01:04:25.340 --> 01:04:27.679
problem here. Let's watch the second fight against

01:04:27.679 --> 01:04:30.619
Cambosos. I stayed awake the whole time, but,

01:04:30.639 --> 01:04:35.280
like, I can see why hating -ass top rank put

01:04:35.280 --> 01:04:43.619
a clinch counter in there. The ESPN clinch counter

01:04:43.619 --> 01:04:46.320
was hilarious, but there is a reason why it was

01:04:46.320 --> 01:04:49.699
happening, because he'd punch Cambosos twice

01:04:49.699 --> 01:04:52.039
and clinch, and get separated, and he'd punch

01:04:52.039 --> 01:04:54.159
Cambosos twice and clinch, and get separated.

01:04:55.619 --> 01:04:57.940
And it's not like these were, like, soft pity

01:04:57.940 --> 01:05:00.300
pat shots, though. He was winding up for home

01:05:00.300 --> 01:05:03.239
run shots against Cambosos, and, like, yeah,

01:05:03.320 --> 01:05:05.780
Cambosos' face looked fucked up, but, like, he

01:05:05.780 --> 01:05:09.949
wasn't gonna get knocked out. Haney hit him with

01:05:09.949 --> 01:05:14.190
a steel chair. Yeah, I'm sure Haney asked him

01:05:14.190 --> 01:05:16.909
in the back as well. How was my power? Yeah,

01:05:16.949 --> 01:05:20.610
that was embarrassing from Haney after the Linares

01:05:20.610 --> 01:05:23.670
fight. Almost gets stopped by Linares and he's

01:05:23.670 --> 01:05:27.309
here begging him about his power. Like, no, if

01:05:27.309 --> 01:05:29.610
you had power, Linares would not have felt confident

01:05:29.610 --> 01:05:32.849
enough to throw eight punches at your face. And

01:05:32.849 --> 01:05:34.610
didn't Linares go back on that in the future?

01:05:35.130 --> 01:05:37.190
Yeah, like an interview later, he's like, yeah,

01:05:37.230 --> 01:05:43.530
he's not that, not all that. I just felt like

01:05:43.530 --> 01:05:45.190
that was straight embarrassing, but I'm like,

01:05:45.269 --> 01:05:47.309
okay, sure. He was probably concussed from Linares

01:05:47.309 --> 01:05:51.809
taking eight straight punches at his face. The

01:05:51.809 --> 01:05:54.730
Lomachenko fight. I don't think Lomachenko robbed

01:05:54.730 --> 01:05:57.929
him, or he robbed Lomachenko. I think it was

01:05:57.929 --> 01:06:02.030
just a fight that was close because both corners

01:06:02.030 --> 01:06:07.789
are grossly incompetent. Like, if Haney used

01:06:07.789 --> 01:06:13.309
his length a little more or had any power, it

01:06:13.309 --> 01:06:15.710
would have been easily Haney's. And if Lomachenko

01:06:15.710 --> 01:06:18.230
kind of acknowledged that Haney can't hurt him

01:06:18.230 --> 01:06:22.150
and grown a pair, it would have been easily Lomachenko's.

01:06:23.949 --> 01:06:27.989
And that's on their corners. That's on their

01:06:27.989 --> 01:06:32.550
corners. Both fighters' corners failed them in

01:06:32.550 --> 01:06:36.739
that fight. Yeah. The coaching was really bad

01:06:36.739 --> 01:06:38.900
and the fight was rather sloppy for being a fight

01:06:38.900 --> 01:06:44.619
between two technicians. It was a fight between

01:06:44.619 --> 01:06:46.059
two technicians. It was actually a pretty good

01:06:46.059 --> 01:06:48.420
fight. I'm not saying it was entertaining, but

01:06:48.420 --> 01:06:50.539
it was sloppy because both corners failed the

01:06:50.539 --> 01:06:54.400
guys. The adjustment is super easy. For Haney,

01:06:54.480 --> 01:06:58.260
it's take a step back before throwing. Don't

01:06:58.260 --> 01:07:00.880
try and get up close with Lomachenko. With Lomachenko,

01:07:00.960 --> 01:07:02.579
it's hey, grow a pair. This guy can't fucking

01:07:02.579 --> 01:07:09.070
hurt you. So, Regis, like, that's, I mean, I'm

01:07:09.070 --> 01:07:10.929
not just, like, like, like, with Haney, like,

01:07:11.030 --> 01:07:13.110
it kind of, like, the first Kambosos, the Kambosos

01:07:13.110 --> 01:07:17.570
fights were, like, oh, my God. Like, it really

01:07:17.570 --> 01:07:19.630
doesn't matter who he's fighting. This guy is

01:07:19.630 --> 01:07:24.230
just a bit of a stinker. Really, that's when

01:07:24.230 --> 01:07:26.170
it hit him. The first time I fell asleep with

01:07:26.170 --> 01:07:28.190
Kambosos, I'm like, I can't do this anymore.

01:07:29.769 --> 01:07:32.170
I can't, I can't pretend he's fighting well.

01:07:34.570 --> 01:07:37.889
Let's keep rolling here. Yes, I got off track.

01:07:38.289 --> 01:07:41.869
It's all right. So, yeah, Sebastian Fandora,

01:07:41.949 --> 01:07:44.969
Keith Ehrman, that shit is postponed until who

01:07:44.969 --> 01:07:52.650
knows when. And last fight to talk about. I don't

01:07:52.650 --> 01:07:56.730
really care about anything under here. Where

01:07:56.730 --> 01:08:00.329
is Lynn when you need her? Because I don't know

01:08:00.329 --> 01:08:03.730
who these people are. Joseph Parker versus Fabio

01:08:03.730 --> 01:08:11.550
Wardley. I can expect Joseph Parker to win at

01:08:11.550 --> 01:08:14.329
least eight rounds before getting sent to the

01:08:14.329 --> 01:08:17.670
Shadow Realm. I was going to say, it's big nuts

01:08:17.670 --> 01:08:19.989
from Joseph Parker when he's sitting in a mandatory

01:08:19.989 --> 01:08:23.710
slot. Sitting in a mandatory slot fighting against,

01:08:23.710 --> 01:08:27.649
like, literally the heavenly mandate? It's crazy.

01:08:28.649 --> 01:08:31.689
yeah like like he's gonna like parker is totally

01:08:31.689 --> 01:08:33.609
going to win most of the fight and embarrass

01:08:33.609 --> 01:08:40.310
wardley and then he's gonna lose and i will be

01:08:40.310 --> 01:08:43.550
pulling my hair out once again yeah i'm pulling

01:08:43.550 --> 01:08:45.529
for parker on this one i'll be pulling my hair

01:08:45.529 --> 01:08:48.689
out for parker when he gets justice who need

01:08:48.689 --> 01:08:52.750
justice that would be pretty funny if just parker

01:08:52.750 --> 01:08:57.460
got All the work he's done. Got domed by Fabio

01:08:57.460 --> 01:09:00.979
Wardley for... See, the reason why I don't want

01:09:00.979 --> 01:09:02.819
it to happen is because I'm like, oh my god,

01:09:02.960 --> 01:09:05.859
what if Usyk gets domed by Fabio Wardley? I think

01:09:05.859 --> 01:09:09.260
I'd kill myself. I would have to stop watching

01:09:09.260 --> 01:09:12.600
the sport for a little while. Like, listen, man,

01:09:12.619 --> 01:09:18.640
I'm already very close to... I was already pretty

01:09:18.640 --> 01:09:21.310
close to being like, I'm done. No way. After

01:09:21.310 --> 01:09:23.750
Crawford Canelo. But then I came to my senses.

01:09:23.869 --> 01:09:26.729
I'm like, this is just hate. That was a pretty

01:09:26.729 --> 01:09:31.630
cool fight, actually. And now, if I watch that

01:09:31.630 --> 01:09:40.329
shit, no way. No way. I got a thing from Shinada

01:09:40.329 --> 01:09:43.930
here. The WBA has ordered Moses Itama and Kubrat

01:09:43.930 --> 01:09:50.039
Pulev to fight. Interesting. Kubrat Pulev is

01:09:50.039 --> 01:09:54.319
old enough to be Atama's dad. Yeah, and he also

01:09:54.319 --> 01:09:59.520
lost to Chizora. So, pretty in line. I don't

01:09:59.520 --> 01:10:02.180
mind it for a rankings position. Yeah, it's a

01:10:02.180 --> 01:10:04.960
good fight for a ranking. Like, get your mandatory.

01:10:05.359 --> 01:10:07.239
Get your mandatory. Because technically, since

01:10:07.239 --> 01:10:11.659
the WB is ordering it for Atama to defend whatever...

01:10:11.659 --> 01:10:14.779
Pulev is defending his regular title slash mandatory

01:10:14.779 --> 01:10:20.159
position. against itama it's a it's a great way

01:10:20.159 --> 01:10:23.380
to activate a mandatory but itama already turned

01:10:23.380 --> 01:10:27.600
down uh a mandatory the frank sanchez dubois

01:10:27.600 --> 01:10:30.699
he was supposed to be in dubois what's what's

01:10:30.699 --> 01:10:35.500
what's what's more dangerous though like yeah

01:10:35.500 --> 01:10:40.609
okay yeah like you it's like again dubois Dubois

01:10:40.609 --> 01:10:43.489
went the same route when he beat the shit out

01:10:43.489 --> 01:10:47.470
of Trevor Bryan on a leaky roof casino in Florida

01:10:47.470 --> 01:10:51.630
on that Don King card. Oh, the one that had the

01:10:51.630 --> 01:10:54.149
fucking banshee in the crowd. I remember that.

01:10:54.189 --> 01:10:57.149
Yeah, that's how he got the first Usyk fight,

01:10:57.350 --> 01:11:00.670
being the WBA mandatory by ripping that shit

01:11:00.670 --> 01:11:04.949
off Trevor Bryan. So it makes a lot of sense

01:11:04.949 --> 01:11:07.289
for Itama to take the Pulev fight and then go

01:11:07.289 --> 01:11:12.470
for it. instead of playing, like, Frank Sanchez

01:11:12.470 --> 01:11:18.109
or Dubois in the IBF pecking order. Because the

01:11:18.109 --> 01:11:21.029
thing is that, like, the way Itama is as, like,

01:11:21.029 --> 01:11:25.029
a borderline A -lister, he doesn't need to, like,

01:11:25.029 --> 01:11:27.409
go through the hoops and ladders of the IBF to

01:11:27.409 --> 01:11:32.369
get a world title shot. Like, he's evidently

01:11:32.369 --> 01:11:34.449
popular enough for the other sanctioning bodies

01:11:34.449 --> 01:11:36.630
to cut him some slack and make him fight guys

01:11:36.630 --> 01:11:42.369
like Kubrat Pulev. So it makes a lot of sense

01:11:42.369 --> 01:11:46.069
from his handler's perspective. Even if we believe

01:11:46.069 --> 01:11:48.710
he could beat Frank Sanchez, which I believe

01:11:48.710 --> 01:11:55.470
he could, that risk -reward. Especially because

01:11:55.470 --> 01:11:57.970
the IBF can just say, yeah, you got to fight

01:11:57.970 --> 01:12:02.829
a final eliminator against Daniel Dubois versus

01:12:02.829 --> 01:12:06.090
you can keep that WBA thing forever as long as

01:12:06.090 --> 01:12:09.409
you're still making money. That's my... That's

01:12:09.409 --> 01:12:11.909
my point on the thing Shanada just sent. Yeah.

01:12:13.069 --> 01:12:16.729
Back to Joseph Parker. Not sure what else to

01:12:16.729 --> 01:12:19.489
say other than be pulling my hair out when he

01:12:19.489 --> 01:12:23.310
gets fucking Homer Simpson. Yeah. It's going

01:12:23.310 --> 01:12:28.289
to happen. I'm hopeful that it doesn't. But,

01:12:28.310 --> 01:12:34.010
God. Seriously, big balls move from Joseph Parker

01:12:34.010 --> 01:12:36.819
here. Oh, absolutely. Wardley is like the worst

01:12:36.819 --> 01:12:38.720
kind of fight you want to take. There's zero

01:12:38.720 --> 01:12:40.920
reward for beating him because he's some British

01:12:40.920 --> 01:12:43.079
dude who gets outboxed by everyone he meets.

01:12:44.500 --> 01:12:49.859
And, well, you can just get memed by him. The

01:12:49.859 --> 01:13:01.100
zero reward, all risk. Yep. Well, that's all

01:13:01.100 --> 01:13:06.800
we got. That's all we got on the docket. Excellent.

01:13:07.220 --> 01:13:10.439
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Review. What do you got in the shoot right now?

01:15:00.399 --> 01:15:04.300
Let me look at my sticky note wall. I have an

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article giving Crawford his flowers that I'm

01:15:07.319 --> 01:15:09.760
going to perpetually delay as long as I can out

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of blind hatred. An article on Dave Allen and

01:15:15.199 --> 01:15:17.460
how he pisses in the sink while he's supposed

01:15:17.460 --> 01:15:23.680
to be cleaning it. That's how he cleans it. And

01:15:23.680 --> 01:15:28.369
boots and his glaze. All right. Well, that's

01:15:28.369 --> 01:15:34.829
what you got to look forward to on Wayside. All

01:15:34.829 --> 01:15:43.550
that said, parting words. Go ahead, Saul. Oh,

01:15:43.550 --> 01:15:45.649
so I just wanted to give a shout out to one of

01:15:45.649 --> 01:15:52.630
the listeners. I got a loyal listener now. What's

01:15:52.630 --> 01:15:55.529
up, Richie? What's up? What's going on, Richie?

01:15:56.939 --> 01:16:00.279
Is this a paid ad? Do I get five bucks for this?

01:16:00.819 --> 01:16:03.699
He's actually also a big Boots fan. Okay, excellent.

01:16:03.779 --> 01:16:10.659
What's up, Richie? Shout out Dave Allen. Hey,

01:16:10.739 --> 01:16:14.699
why don't you call in the phone line? Maybe we'll

01:16:14.699 --> 01:16:17.880
cut you in. He's nervous. Listen, man. If Dave

01:16:17.880 --> 01:16:19.739
Allen wants in on this podcast, we're letting

01:16:19.739 --> 01:16:22.739
him on the podcast. Oh, fuck yeah. Oh, without

01:16:22.739 --> 01:16:27.920
question. Are you kidding me? He'll be. As long

01:16:27.920 --> 01:16:32.600
as he ignores all the... The janitor talk? Yeah.

01:16:33.739 --> 01:16:36.899
You'll probably agree. Yeah, I was going to say,

01:16:36.960 --> 01:16:39.659
I would never admit the stuff about the piss

01:16:39.659 --> 01:16:44.319
jugs that he's admitted on interviews. That is

01:16:44.319 --> 01:16:46.840
not something I would say publicly either. Yeah,

01:16:46.960 --> 01:16:49.380
like the same way I would keep a belt draped

01:16:49.380 --> 01:16:53.260
around me forever. if it wasn't the English one,

01:16:53.380 --> 01:16:56.119
I would never in my life, you could waterboard

01:16:56.119 --> 01:16:59.180
me and I would never say that I piss in jugs

01:16:59.180 --> 01:17:09.439
under my bed. That is fucking gross. Like, if

01:17:09.439 --> 01:17:15.000
I was that desperate and that lazy to not even

01:17:15.000 --> 01:17:17.600
be able to get to the washroom in my domicile,

01:17:17.680 --> 01:17:20.880
like... I would at least use my cat's litter

01:17:20.880 --> 01:17:29.460
box. Not a jug. Maybe I'm not British enough.

01:17:29.539 --> 01:17:33.159
I'm not enough of a Doncaster lad to understand.

01:17:34.859 --> 01:17:37.140
Are those your parting words? I'd rather use

01:17:37.140 --> 01:17:39.979
my cat's litter box? I'd rather use my cat's

01:17:39.979 --> 01:17:42.159
litter box than keep a jug under my bed for six

01:17:42.159 --> 01:17:47.979
months. I don't think that's a hot take. It's

01:17:47.979 --> 01:17:51.460
not reasonable. Well, if that's what you're getting,

01:17:51.539 --> 01:17:54.800
I'm going to throw in the old standby Provox

01:17:54.800 --> 01:17:59.939
good. Yay. Watch Provox. When is the next Provox,

01:17:59.939 --> 01:18:03.659
Kurt? November 7th. Excellent. Tune in to Provox

01:18:03.659 --> 01:18:07.039
on November 7th or else. There's actually some

01:18:07.039 --> 01:18:08.800
really good fights on there. I'm looking forward

01:18:08.800 --> 01:18:13.260
to talking about that one. Yes. All right. If

01:18:13.260 --> 01:18:15.899
that's it. Then that's it for this edition of

01:18:15.899 --> 01:18:18.060
the Foxy B -Sides. We'll see you on the other

01:18:18.060 --> 01:18:20.140
side of Joseph Parker vs. Homer Simpson.