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The B -Side and Boxing. B -Side shit. B -Side.

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B -Side. And the B -Side. You got a B -Side.

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The B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. The B

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-Side thing. This is the B -Sides Boxing Podcast.

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Alright. Boxing. Fucking. B -Sides. Back up in

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your ears. I'm joined by the one and only Saul.

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What's up, guys? And Josh. What's up, dude? Hello.

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How was your Thanksgiving? Good. Yummy. What

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was the standout dish of the event? I am a broke

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student, so I only make one nice dish. I did

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write it down when talking to Shanada yesterday.

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It was like a nice... Where is it? Plank steak

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in a mustard marinade. Oven baked with onions

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and asparagus with an aged gouda melted over

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it. And some gnocchi with a garlic butter in

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a steel pan. That sounds fantastic. Oh, yeah.

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Yeah, we're back to ice soup for the next...

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Ice soup? Yeah. Ice cubes and water. That's that's

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food protein ice soup I Don't know I always think

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of the meme I always take this meme about bi

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-weekly pay, where it's like week one you're

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buying shit like the gorilla couch. What? Oh

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yeah, the gorilla couch. Yeah, that's what I

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mean. First week of bi -weekly pay, you're buying

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a gorilla couch. Second week, it's ice soup.

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This is a fucking couch? Here, let me send it.

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I found the original tweet, bro. Okay, because

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I'm just looking at Google Images and these all

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look wild. Oh, shit. Yeah, that's what I'm looking

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at. First week of bi -weekly pay, gorilla couch.

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Second week, ice soup. That's what I mean. So

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it's an ice soup week. Oh, a lot of these are

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AI because they look stupid. Yeah, no, the real

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gorilla couches are stupider, though. Boy, you

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wouldn't want to own one? I kind of do. Since

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we don't have all that much to talk about, I

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do have a little bit of MMA to throw into the

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mix. Reference to our homies over at Ultimate

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F 'n Casuals. UFC 320 took place on October 4th.

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Fucking... There was quite a few... Fun fights.

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Let's see. Yeah, the Jiri fight was actually

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crazy. Yeah. That was an interesting case. The

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way I described it was that Proska, the way that

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he fights, he does not fight on a 10 -point must.

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No. He just fights the fight as a whole, and

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he just decides to turn it up in round three

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and just fucking annihilates Khalil Roundtree.

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It was interesting. I watched the fight after

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it happened. Someone just posted the entire fight

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on TikTok with the Rocky soundtrack over it.

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I'm like, this is probably the best way to experience

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it. Yeah, that's a good way to watch it. Fucking

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Rocky soundtrack playing over this fight. Crazy.

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What a good fight. Proska's a fucking character.

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He'll put his hand over anthills and just let

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himself be bitten to numb his hands or something.

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I don't know if he's trying to absorb the power

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of the ant. True, ants are extremely powerful.

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Yeah, they are. You know what? Through osmosis,

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he could be trying to absorb that power. Through

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osmosis is crazy. Or he's trying to be like Spider

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-Man, dude. Yeah, that could be it. That's something

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that Stephen Poland should do. The radioactive

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ant. What are some other good fights that were

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on here? One that was fun was there was this

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dude. His name is Yakub Weaklax. His name is

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Yakub. Straight up Yakub. We're not saying that.

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He came in signed fresh. from outside of UFC,

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signed for a fight with Patchy Mix, who was a

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champion at the previous organization, Bellator.

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They folded, right? So Patchy Mix was a free

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agent. He signs with UFC. And he loses his first

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fight in UFC, whatever. I guess you can kind

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of look past it. And then they signed this guy,

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Yacoub, who ends up beating Patchy Mix as well.

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I think it looks like Patchy Mix. Who calls their

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kid Patchy Mix, dude? I don't know. Yeah, Yakub

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versus Patchy Mix. Like, come on. It's a movie.

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It's a movie. It's like when you watch It's Always

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Sunny, this is the fight that's playing over

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the TV at the bar. Hey, who's fighting? It's

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Yakub. Yakub. Yakub. And you can't be saying

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that now, dude. It's his fucking name, dude.

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It's his name. No, I'm saying that's what they'd

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be saying. Oh, yeah. They'd be telling Frank,

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you can't fucking say that anymore. What's his

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name? To cap off the 320, the two title fights,

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Marab Dwalishvili gets a UD over Corey Sanhagen.

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Marab continues to prove himself to be a very

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special MMA fighter. The dude has a gas tank

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that just does not quit. It is unreal. Actually,

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Isaac posed a good question that I would like

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to ask both of you. It's hard because I don't

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know if you guys know just how good this guy's

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gas tank is. But who can you think of that has

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the absolute best cardio in boxing? Honestly,

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cardio. Best cardio guy who just keep... Fuck.

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Like, right now or historically? Whatever. Historically,

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oh, that's crazy. No, because historically, like,

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you can say Chavez Sr. would not stop coming

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at you. James Toney rarely gassed. Gil Lewis

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didn't really gas to the end of his career. Rocky

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Marciano never gassed. Not the rock either, man.

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I'll take these back to Isaac, see what his comparisons

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are. These are good ones. For modern day cardio,

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Bivel will slow down but not gas. Usyk only speeds

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up. Which is, that's the scary one. Usyk only

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ever gets faster with time. Anyway. anyway hasn't

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really needed to he doesn't have to step on he

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doesn't have to that's the thing he doesn't have

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to he's pretty good though yeah but also like

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come on that that was a that was a steven butler

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type performance from mj yeah but he still went

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to 12 you could see that he wasn't tired at the

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end you know no no um shakur too shakur i can

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give benavidez that because like this guy can

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keep keep uh the volume going forever Stephen

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Fulton? I would disagree with Fulton. Nah, Fulton

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having two 12 -round wars with B -Fig gives him

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the cardio. Without gassing, gives him the cardio.

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Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Give him the

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cardio nod. Getting blasted out is not the same

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as having bad cardio. Inu beating his ass Inu

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beating his ass isn't his gas tank. It's his

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Everything else. It's his chin, his defense,

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his offense, but not his gas tank. Is Carlos

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Castro or not Carlos Castro? I was thinking about

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Mark Castro or Carlos Castro. I think it's Carlos

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Castro, right? Carlos. Yeah, Carlos, okay. Carlos

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Castro. And the Castro fight, he was kind of

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slowing down past round eight. But that might

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just be because I think that was when the weight

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jump, maybe? Yeah. And his last beefing fight

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wasn't... It wasn't really a word. It was more

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just... No, I'm thinking the first one. No, that

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first one, yeah, 100%. But that second one, he

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just kind of... He cruised. Yeah, he cruised

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the whole time. So, at least for me, it seems

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like he slowed down a little bit. But I could

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also agree that he probably does have a good...

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Weirdly, I'll say Crawford never... Crawford

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doesn't really go fast, but he doesn't slow down

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dramatically either. Yeah. Like, with the Majumov

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fight. Yeah, like, he doesn't go fast, but he

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also doesn't slow down dramatically, which is

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good. Honorable mention for, like, a really bad,

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like, probably worst gas tank in boxing has got

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to be Caleb Plant. Oh, especially now in his

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advanced age. Caleb Plant, like, he never had

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a good gas tank. Like, against Uz Katsagati,

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like, he looked like the best boxer. Like, ever

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to live for four rounds. And then, seriously,

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he looked like the best guy to ever live. Like,

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drops him and everything. Like, looks like the

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best guy to ever live for four rounds. And then,

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oh, my God. Is his gas tank woeful? You know,

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I will say another one, too, that kind of underrated

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as well. You can disagree with me on this one,

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but I think that Better Beef, his gas tank, Until

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at least the second B -Volt fight was pretty

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right. Be good. I'll give him credit for the

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gas tank. He doesn't slow down. But again, it's

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a Crawford case where he also doesn't... He never

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steps into that fifth year. Yeah, I guess I see

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what you're saying. But I can see that in the

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first B -Volt fight, he had a pretty good gas

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tank. It's not a criticism. It's just a stylistic

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thing. I find it more impressive in regards to

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the gas tank if you're like Usyk, who will dramatically

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speed up later in a fight compared to like a

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single output type of person. I will say one

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of the most more overrated gas tanks in the sport,

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I would say probably would have to go to Tepeda.

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Oh, shit. That's a good one. It's a good one.

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It's a good one, but I feel like he's overrated

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regarding his casting because a lot of people

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say his casting is the best in sport. Yeah, bottomless.

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I'm not saying it's bad at all. Again, I'm just

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saying it's overrated. Yeah. These are all good

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shouts, though. I'm going to have Isaac listen

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to these and see what he thinks. We'll talk about

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it on the next Ultimate FN Casuals. Yeah. And

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rounding it off, Alex Pereira reclaims the light

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heavyweight title by a first round stoppage.

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First round stoppage. Shout out the guy on SP

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Discord who believes in black magic. What? There

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was a guy after this fight going like, Pereira

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is like a black wizard doing rituals for this

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shit. He is indigenous Brazilian. This is so

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funny. And I'm like, you know what? Maybe it's

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actually... You know what? Fair enough, man.

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If all your favorite fighters get obliterated

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by this guy, you might as well believe in black

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magic. That's a good reason to start believing

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in it. If he fights Usyk and beats him, I will

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genuinely believe that it's black magic helping

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him. If he beats Usyk, I'll start believing in

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God, dude. Like... This guy's not going to...

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It's like he has the heavenly mandate at that

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point, dude. You don't believe in God after seeing

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Terrence Crawford? No, I believe in alcoholism

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after seeing Terrence Crawford. No man who gets

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drunk at Quinceañeras, who gets that wasted at

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Quinceañeras was going to be Crawford in retrospect.

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So we had to believe. We had the believe out

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of Hatred Crawford, but it was not to be. Pushing

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on, coming up on the UFC side of the house is

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a fight night card in Vancouver, BC. The headliner,

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Rainier DeRidder. It's pretty fun to watch. He's

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fighting Brendan Allen. There's some other good

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fights on the card. Charles Jourdain should be

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a good one. Marlon Vera, another good one. But

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that's enough MMA talk. Moving into a little

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bit of fucking news here. Badu Jack versus Norair

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McCallion. The rematch is set for December. How

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excited are you for Badu Jack? I would expect

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him to cash out by now, honestly. Same. Yeah.

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At 41. He's been off forever. He's still going.

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He's like a New Zealand Lara. Actually, to be

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fair, this rematch, like, they are making him

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do it to keep his belt because he low -key robbed

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McAllen for the last time around. So I get it.

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Yeah, basically, if Badu Jack beats McAllen this

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time, which should be, honestly. He's probably

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just going to cash the belt out and retire. There's

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only two guys to cash out, too. Italian Gordo.

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Yep. Hey, you could always cash out with Jake

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Paul. That's true. Jake Paul is an option at

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this point in time. Holy shit. You're not wrong.

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I was going to say, by the time that happens,

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he is going to be 42. By the time the opportunity

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for a Jake Paul fight, he's going to be 42. And

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I don't know. He looks good against Makabu, but

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if you saw his last fight, the wheels are coming

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off. Yeah. The wheels are coming off. So, honestly,

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Jake Paul, that's the one. He's not going to

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cash out against someone who can actually do

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real damage. Because, like, Obitai and Zerto,

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like, that's not a way to end your career. But,

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as a blown -up super middleweight holding onto

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a belt... By the skin of his teeth? Like, Jake

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Paul, with minimal power, especially at this

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weight class. Like, he's not a KO threat for

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Jake Paul, which is where I think I genuinely,

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in my heart of hearts, think Jake Paul is coming

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up for that. For Body Jack. Or for the winner

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of this, at least. Yeah. Because they're both

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about as weak, honestly. Let me ask you this.

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Who do you think has a better chance of KOing

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Jake? Tank or Body Jack? What a fucking question.

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What? I mean, in this day and age, I mean, come

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on. It's viable to ask that question. Oh, my

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God. You know, I'll say Tank just because, like,

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you want Tank. Tank will knock Jake Paul out

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and ride into the sunset. Well, if he does that,

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I will forever be happy. Yeah. Honestly. Yeah,

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it'll be an exhibition and whatever, and then

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Jake Paul will be like, all right, I'm still

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ranked at Cruiserweight with the WBC. Give me

00:17:43.259 --> 00:17:49.279
a shot of that WBC belt held by Badu Jack. Well,

00:17:49.299 --> 00:17:51.859
Tank did say he's retiring after the Jake Paul

00:17:51.859 --> 00:17:57.279
fight. Yeah. I think, genuinely, it's going to

00:17:57.279 --> 00:18:00.460
be a horrible fight when Jake Paul wins a decision

00:18:00.460 --> 00:18:02.660
that you just go like, yeah, I guess that's right.

00:18:05.490 --> 00:18:07.589
With a Jake fight or with a tank fight? With

00:18:07.589 --> 00:18:10.250
Jake and Bado Jack. The tank fight's an exhibition,

00:18:10.529 --> 00:18:12.450
so, like, there's no, like, winner, you know?

00:18:12.769 --> 00:18:14.809
See, I was like, I don't know about that one,

00:18:14.869 --> 00:18:17.990
but... No, you're gonna get, like, a weird decision

00:18:17.990 --> 00:18:21.750
that you sort of agree with with Bado Jack, and

00:18:21.750 --> 00:18:23.390
Jake Paul's gonna have a world title that he

00:18:23.390 --> 00:18:28.849
holds on to forever. Well, then, honestly...

00:18:29.470 --> 00:18:30.990
I'm not gonna lie, that would breathe some new

00:18:30.990 --> 00:18:32.569
life into the Cruiserweight division, you know?

00:18:32.670 --> 00:18:36.410
I would cry laughing seeing this happen. The

00:18:36.410 --> 00:18:40.049
Jake Paul Mafia rides again. Jake Paul Mafia

00:18:40.049 --> 00:18:42.990
winning a legitimate world title would be so

00:18:42.990 --> 00:18:48.230
fucking funny. How possible is that ever happening?

00:18:48.650 --> 00:18:52.789
Like, legitimately? That's more likely than you

00:18:52.789 --> 00:18:55.750
think. Yeah, like, seriously looking at this,

00:18:55.829 --> 00:18:59.549
Badou Jack or Mikaelian? It's not out of the

00:18:59.549 --> 00:19:02.529
realm of possibility. Like, you can give either

00:19:02.529 --> 00:19:09.890
old timer a bag to show up. I mean, Jake Paul

00:19:09.890 --> 00:19:12.450
is like a hater, but he is the fight to make

00:19:12.450 --> 00:19:14.890
a cruiserweight. Yeah, like, neither... Both

00:19:14.890 --> 00:19:18.009
guys are, like, basically big super middleweights.

00:19:20.650 --> 00:19:23.789
And McKaylen isn't that. McKaylen's only 6 '3".

00:19:25.430 --> 00:19:28.130
Bado Jack 6 -1. They're both kind of small for

00:19:28.130 --> 00:19:31.910
Cruiserweight. They're not KO threats at Cruiserweight.

00:19:33.490 --> 00:19:36.710
And, like, again, if McAleenan is struggling

00:19:36.710 --> 00:19:38.990
this much against Bado Jack, we're like, the

00:19:38.990 --> 00:19:42.130
wheels are falling off. Like, he's not there

00:19:42.130 --> 00:19:49.009
the way he used to be. Like, put a couple more

00:19:49.009 --> 00:19:54.829
miles on the clock and have a go at it. Because

00:19:54.829 --> 00:19:58.369
if Jake Paul loses, he's legitimized by saying

00:19:58.369 --> 00:20:01.950
he fought a legitimate world champion and, like,

00:20:01.970 --> 00:20:07.809
was competitive, semi -competitive. I mean, let

00:20:07.809 --> 00:20:10.450
me ask you this. How good of a career has Better

00:20:10.450 --> 00:20:13.910
Check been had? Pretty good, actually. Decent.

00:20:14.970 --> 00:20:19.170
Decent. Pretty decent. He's overachieved. He's

00:20:19.170 --> 00:20:26.259
honestly overachieved. Let's move to Frank Sanchez

00:20:26.259 --> 00:20:29.480
versus Daniel Dubois in an IVF Eliminator. I

00:20:29.480 --> 00:20:32.400
have to say I do not – I want Frank Sanchez to

00:20:32.400 --> 00:20:35.839
win simply because I do not want to see Dubois

00:20:35.839 --> 00:20:40.759
Usyk 3. That does not need to happen. Oh, you're

00:20:40.759 --> 00:20:44.680
right. But I also don't want to see Frank Sanchez,

00:20:44.920 --> 00:20:49.400
period, point blank. That's the problem. It's

00:20:49.400 --> 00:20:52.140
like can't they both – can't they draw and like

00:20:52.140 --> 00:20:55.880
– Everyone loses. In a fun fight, they both draw,

00:20:56.059 --> 00:20:58.240
they have to fight again, and then Usyk can go

00:20:58.240 --> 00:21:00.099
do whatever the fuck he wants and then retire.

00:21:01.759 --> 00:21:05.319
Well, I'd rather see Frank Sanchez win than Danny

00:21:05.319 --> 00:21:07.039
Dubois. He's already had a shot twice at Usyk.

00:21:07.660 --> 00:21:11.380
Nah, but Frank Sanchez is like, he's like one

00:21:11.380 --> 00:21:15.779
of the least deserving guys. Negative aura. Like,

00:21:15.779 --> 00:21:20.960
at least Dubois is like a KO threat. Not really,

00:21:21.160 --> 00:21:25.079
because Usyk beat the fuck out of him. but at

00:21:25.079 --> 00:21:28.660
least he's a KO threat on paper. Frank Sanchez,

00:21:28.859 --> 00:21:35.500
like... Luis Ortiz without some of the special

00:21:35.500 --> 00:21:38.299
quality. Without the aggression or dog, exactly.

00:21:38.940 --> 00:21:43.180
Yeah. Like, Luis Ortiz was a dog. You can't say

00:21:43.180 --> 00:21:46.819
he wasn't. He's a dog. Frank Sanchez just, like,

00:21:46.859 --> 00:21:51.299
again, he just kind of... He really just kind

00:21:51.299 --> 00:21:56.420
of folded against Caballero. Well, his knee was

00:21:56.420 --> 00:22:01.140
supposedly bum. Okay, yeah. For whatever that

00:22:01.140 --> 00:22:04.640
counts. Why do you get in the ring then, though?

00:22:04.700 --> 00:22:08.480
If your knee... Saudi payday. Saudi payday, but

00:22:08.480 --> 00:22:11.759
also, like, instead of, like, folding and losing,

00:22:12.039 --> 00:22:14.180
like, again, not to question hard here, but,

00:22:14.200 --> 00:22:17.259
like, if you're gonna get... If you're gonna

00:22:17.259 --> 00:22:19.200
hang around until the seventh round and take

00:22:19.200 --> 00:22:22.299
all that punishment, like, give it a go. Especially

00:22:22.299 --> 00:22:26.309
against a guy like Kapael, right? Like... I get

00:22:26.309 --> 00:22:31.170
he's proven himself, but also give it a go. It's

00:22:31.170 --> 00:22:34.869
heavyweight. Frank Sanchez has power. Yeah, anyone

00:22:34.869 --> 00:22:38.250
can get hit. Sanchez has power. Like, sit down

00:22:38.250 --> 00:22:39.990
on your other leg and give it a go, especially

00:22:39.990 --> 00:22:44.069
because, like, let's say he gave up in the first

00:22:44.069 --> 00:22:46.369
or second round, whatever, right? Okay, clearly

00:22:46.369 --> 00:22:50.940
the knee wasn't it. But if the knee had you good

00:22:50.940 --> 00:22:53.019
enough to go around for six rounds beforehand,

00:22:53.339 --> 00:22:56.839
give it a go. Yeah, you could have spent your

00:22:56.839 --> 00:23:01.359
knee stamina on throwing punches instead of trying

00:23:01.359 --> 00:23:04.299
to stay mobile. You're still going to get folded

00:23:04.299 --> 00:23:12.019
with body shots, but I assume standing and throwing

00:23:12.019 --> 00:23:14.519
punches is less injurious to your shitty knee

00:23:14.519 --> 00:23:17.940
and lateral movement. Yeah, that's what I was

00:23:17.940 --> 00:23:21.049
thinking. I mean, honestly, when they fight,

00:23:21.170 --> 00:23:24.289
if they fight, I got Dubois winning. And honestly,

00:23:24.490 --> 00:23:27.349
as much as that would be pretty cool to see,

00:23:27.470 --> 00:23:30.349
having Dubois fight Usyk for a third time in

00:23:30.349 --> 00:23:32.529
a trilogy would be up there in one of the least

00:23:32.529 --> 00:23:37.650
deserving trilogies of heavyweight boxing. Dubois

00:23:37.650 --> 00:23:41.490
becomes the Derek Chisora of Usyk's title reign.

00:23:42.009 --> 00:23:46.960
I will say. Like, Dubois was competitive for

00:23:46.960 --> 00:23:51.079
exactly one second of their two fights. And it

00:23:51.079 --> 00:23:56.299
was the low blow. Crazy. I would say the first

00:23:56.299 --> 00:23:58.680
fight, Dubois had a little more competitive moments

00:23:58.680 --> 00:24:00.700
in the second. A little bit, actually. A lot

00:24:00.700 --> 00:24:02.579
more competitive moments. Yeah, I would say he

00:24:02.579 --> 00:24:05.000
did a lot better in the first. That's fair. To

00:24:05.000 --> 00:24:08.400
be fair, look at the demeanor Usyk showed up

00:24:08.400 --> 00:24:11.250
in, though. Like, Usyk kind of went through the

00:24:11.250 --> 00:24:13.609
motions. First fight with Dubois, second fight,

00:24:13.789 --> 00:24:16.630
like... Showed up. I don't think we've ever seen

00:24:16.630 --> 00:24:19.069
Usyk, like, actually, like, pissed off at an

00:24:19.069 --> 00:24:22.750
opponent. Locked in. Like, even with Fury, it

00:24:22.750 --> 00:24:27.650
was, like, it was all competition. It was all

00:24:27.650 --> 00:24:30.230
competitive spirit and everything, right? But,

00:24:30.289 --> 00:24:32.210
like, with Dubois, like, he showed up just to

00:24:32.210 --> 00:24:35.089
beat his ass. Wait, what do you mean? That second

00:24:35.089 --> 00:24:37.289
Riyadh trailer showed that it was ruining Usyk's

00:24:37.289 --> 00:24:41.930
life. Is that not true? Oh, I forgot about that.

00:24:42.230 --> 00:24:45.349
Did Usyk really not get into a car accident after

00:24:45.349 --> 00:24:48.710
seeing Tyson Fury's face? Oh, my God. No, maybe

00:24:48.710 --> 00:24:52.910
they're just reusing the... Fuck. Fuck, I forget.

00:24:52.990 --> 00:24:55.329
Who's the guy in the zone, the ring announcer

00:24:55.329 --> 00:24:58.849
who faked his car accident? David Diamante. Yeah,

00:24:59.069 --> 00:25:01.710
David Diamante. Yeah, I think they're just reusing

00:25:01.710 --> 00:25:05.549
that plot line. That's crazy. No, fuck David

00:25:05.549 --> 00:25:07.829
Diamante, dude. Oh, he totally faked his car

00:25:07.829 --> 00:25:11.599
accident, by the way. It's like the Floyd Schofield

00:25:11.599 --> 00:25:16.440
hospital. Poisoning. Poisoning and the Fundora

00:25:16.440 --> 00:25:23.460
hand injury. All of that shit's made up. Speaking

00:25:23.460 --> 00:25:25.819
of shit being made up and the rules not mattering,

00:25:25.839 --> 00:25:31.660
Ryan Garcia calls out Mario Barrios. Shanada

00:25:31.660 --> 00:25:36.700
called this an ass -off because Mario Barrios

00:25:36.700 --> 00:25:43.359
is hot garbage. I forecast another draw. He keeps

00:25:43.359 --> 00:25:47.400
his belt by draw number three. We're going for

00:25:47.400 --> 00:25:49.599
the three -peat here. I predict another draw.

00:25:49.799 --> 00:25:52.599
Ryan Garcia shows up drunk, out of shape, on

00:25:52.599 --> 00:25:55.220
dubious over -the -counter gas station supplements.

00:25:57.099 --> 00:26:00.180
Beats Barrios' ass for three rounds and gets

00:26:00.180 --> 00:26:02.619
a couple knockdowns. And then Barrios wins the

00:26:02.619 --> 00:26:04.500
rest of the rounds just on activity, and it's

00:26:04.500 --> 00:26:08.829
a draw. Well, shit. It really depends on who's

00:26:08.829 --> 00:26:13.789
hosting the fight. It doesn't matter who hosted

00:26:13.789 --> 00:26:15.910
the fight, dude. We had Pacquiao in Las Vegas

00:26:15.910 --> 00:26:18.289
and Barrios got a draw. Well, that's because

00:26:18.289 --> 00:26:21.549
PBC was hosting the fight. Yeah, Pacquiao in

00:26:21.549 --> 00:26:24.230
Las Vegas. It's not top rank robbing Pacquiao.

00:26:24.369 --> 00:26:28.730
Pacquiao is a PBC fighter. Yeah, Pacquiao has

00:26:28.730 --> 00:26:31.509
never been robbed by PBC. It's been only top

00:26:31.509 --> 00:26:35.789
rank. Only top rank. Only top rank has robbed

00:26:35.789 --> 00:26:39.630
Pacquiao ever. Everyone tell Barrios though.

00:26:41.589 --> 00:26:45.430
I don't think they want... Barrios is like the

00:26:45.430 --> 00:26:48.430
most nothing champion you ever want. You got

00:26:48.430 --> 00:26:50.970
a guy who can lose to a tune -up or you got Pacquiao

00:26:50.970 --> 00:26:53.289
who like... Okay, you give him the win again.

00:26:53.450 --> 00:26:55.569
You can't even say corruption here because corruption

00:26:55.569 --> 00:26:59.950
is Pacquiao wins a UD and then guess what? He

00:26:59.950 --> 00:27:01.809
has a title and now you can cash him out against

00:27:01.809 --> 00:27:07.059
literally anyone else. Yeah, you're right. Hell,

00:27:07.240 --> 00:27:09.539
you can have him unify. You have him unify with

00:27:09.539 --> 00:27:12.400
Rowley? Well, that's what kind of rumblings right

00:27:12.400 --> 00:27:15.119
now is that he might be fighting Rowley. It's

00:27:15.119 --> 00:27:18.480
less money than if he has a title and then unifies

00:27:18.480 --> 00:27:22.539
with Rowley. Yeah, you're right. There's no reason

00:27:22.539 --> 00:27:26.220
to rob Pacquiao in Vegas. I still feel like they

00:27:26.220 --> 00:27:28.859
robbed him. Oh, they totally robbed him, but

00:27:28.859 --> 00:27:30.920
I'm saying there's no motive. It's just Barrios

00:27:30.920 --> 00:27:33.940
having, like, a deal with Baphomet or something

00:27:33.940 --> 00:27:37.000
to keep his title by as many draws as needed.

00:27:38.079 --> 00:27:41.559
That's my point, though. If it was posted by

00:27:41.559 --> 00:27:44.900
PBC, they'd still rob Ryan, even if he won the

00:27:44.900 --> 00:27:47.339
fight. If it was real, they'd give it to Ryan

00:27:47.339 --> 00:27:51.019
easily. I want it to be a draw so bad. I need

00:27:51.019 --> 00:27:54.359
a draw. I need three draws. One thing that you're

00:27:54.359 --> 00:27:56.660
forgetting, which, I mean, maybe I'm forgetting

00:27:56.660 --> 00:28:00.099
something in the mix, but can't Ryan not fight?

00:28:00.940 --> 00:28:03.220
Ryan can't get at the WBC anymore, right? Because

00:28:03.220 --> 00:28:06.759
he was racist online. And they've banned him

00:28:06.759 --> 00:28:10.480
from getting the title, right? Yeah, so is Teofimo

00:28:10.480 --> 00:28:12.660
and, like, Bernard Hopkins. And, like, they're

00:28:12.660 --> 00:28:17.339
still around. Broner's a classic, dude. Broner

00:28:17.339 --> 00:28:22.809
won a... Let's say Ryan beats Barrios. What the

00:28:22.809 --> 00:28:24.269
fuck happens to the title? Is Barrios still the

00:28:24.269 --> 00:28:28.329
champion? Is that what happens? Vacate? Vacate?

00:28:29.609 --> 00:28:33.230
You make Pacquiao against the number one contender

00:28:33.230 --> 00:28:40.509
and then... Man, this shit kills me. I need to

00:28:40.509 --> 00:28:42.349
see a draw. I need to see a draw. Just because

00:28:42.349 --> 00:28:48.150
it'd be too funny. I mean, honestly, I... I think

00:28:48.150 --> 00:28:50.349
Ryan would win the fight, though. I know you

00:28:50.349 --> 00:28:52.970
guys don't really... No, if Ryan showed up, serious.

00:28:53.269 --> 00:28:55.829
I think I leave Ryan when he shows up, like,

00:28:55.970 --> 00:29:03.130
not after a three -week bender. I don't know,

00:29:03.170 --> 00:29:05.329
dude. I mean, the last time he was on some shit,

00:29:05.490 --> 00:29:07.990
he beat the fuck out of Devin Haney. You know?

00:29:08.309 --> 00:29:11.650
Yeah, he was on some... Yeah, and not just booze,

00:29:11.650 --> 00:29:15.190
dude. The steroids, too. Steroids, women, fucking

00:29:15.190 --> 00:29:18.980
everything, dude. That's what I mean, how much

00:29:18.980 --> 00:29:22.579
talent he has. He's extremely talented. It's

00:29:22.579 --> 00:29:26.259
just God. His coaching stinks. His attitude stinks.

00:29:26.420 --> 00:29:31.400
He's uncoachable and doesn't train. Don't forget

00:29:31.400 --> 00:29:33.259
the Grove. What was it called? Bohemian Grove?

00:29:33.500 --> 00:29:35.140
Don't forget the Bohemian Grove shit. He got

00:29:35.140 --> 00:29:39.019
kidnapped and was fucking molested. Where the

00:29:39.019 --> 00:29:42.259
fuck happened to him? He was like, dude, you

00:29:42.259 --> 00:29:46.829
guys remember that shit? Yeah. Okay, all I remember

00:29:46.829 --> 00:29:49.150
people posting under those tweets was that picture

00:29:49.150 --> 00:29:57.130
of Haney and Diddy. Fuck it. You guys, you didn't

00:29:57.130 --> 00:29:59.250
go to fucking leaving, by the way. I don't believe

00:29:59.250 --> 00:30:02.109
that shit. I don't believe that shit. But my

00:30:02.109 --> 00:30:05.829
favorite, people kept posting the picture of

00:30:05.829 --> 00:30:11.230
Diddy and Haney. Which is so fucking funny. That's

00:30:11.230 --> 00:30:13.049
my favorite picture, dude. How the fuck do you

00:30:13.049 --> 00:30:15.990
get mugged by Diddy? Not even that. How the fuck

00:30:15.990 --> 00:30:19.829
are you with Diddy in the first place? It would

00:30:19.829 --> 00:30:21.890
be funny if it was like Tank. That would make

00:30:21.890 --> 00:30:23.509
a little more sense, but fucking Devin Haney

00:30:23.509 --> 00:30:27.130
of all people. Soft -ass Devin Haney hanging

00:30:27.130 --> 00:30:30.009
out with Diddy at a Diddy party. Was that before

00:30:30.009 --> 00:30:32.890
all the Diddy stuff came to light? Yeah, like

00:30:32.890 --> 00:30:34.670
this picture. This is a classic picture. I just

00:30:34.670 --> 00:30:40.289
sent it. You should make that a sticker. Oh,

00:30:40.289 --> 00:30:43.420
shit. I remember that. This is such a good picture.

00:30:43.660 --> 00:30:51.240
Oh, my God. Oh, I love it. Did he probably pull

00:30:51.240 --> 00:30:54.480
some strings to get that fight overturned? Oh,

00:30:54.519 --> 00:30:59.519
my God. Oh. Nah, that was legitimate overturning,

00:30:59.519 --> 00:31:03.920
by the way. Ryan was, like, breaking the... He

00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:07.019
broke the pharmacy for that. That was some Jarrell

00:31:07.019 --> 00:31:10.680
Miller failure. Jarrell Miller's failure's crazy.

00:31:11.390 --> 00:31:13.450
That was a Jarrell Miller level failure. You

00:31:13.450 --> 00:31:18.170
can't even tell me it wasn't. You know what won't

00:31:18.170 --> 00:31:21.170
be a failure? Gary Antoine Russell versus Andy

00:31:21.170 --> 00:31:29.450
Hiraoka. I'm excited for this one. Hiraoka is

00:31:29.450 --> 00:31:32.349
a Japanese fighter that breaks the mold of typical

00:31:32.349 --> 00:31:39.609
come forward clobbers. Both really athletic.

00:31:39.769 --> 00:31:42.329
F1 Russell never really has that bad of a fight

00:31:42.329 --> 00:31:47.609
unless it was Pueyo. It's Pueyo. Pueyo's uniquely

00:31:47.609 --> 00:31:50.529
stinky, though. I can't blame him. Like that

00:31:50.529 --> 00:31:53.430
Sandor Martin? Not even that bad, actually. I

00:31:53.430 --> 00:31:58.349
take it back. Pueyo's like a very high -level

00:31:58.349 --> 00:32:02.200
stinky, though. It's not like a... He's not ass.

00:32:02.460 --> 00:32:04.900
He's just not very excited. He's not an ass.

00:32:05.299 --> 00:32:07.720
Yeah, that's what I mean. Like, Sandor Martin

00:32:07.720 --> 00:32:11.960
is ass and not exciting to watch. You know what?

00:32:12.039 --> 00:32:13.619
I'm going to be honest with you guys. Like, Toyo's

00:32:13.619 --> 00:32:15.799
last two fights were pretty exciting. You know?

00:32:15.900 --> 00:32:17.619
His last fight, honestly, could have been fight

00:32:17.619 --> 00:32:21.980
of the year. Please look at who he fought against.

00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:24.599
He fought against the action fighter of the sport.

00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:27.180
Exactly. I understand Superman and Matias. But

00:32:27.180 --> 00:32:28.339
when he fought Sandor Martin, that was a pretty

00:32:28.339 --> 00:32:30.640
good fight, too. You know, I thought it was a

00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:37.079
decent scrap. I don't know. I guess. That's what

00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:40.359
they say. Like, the thing, Martin got forced

00:32:40.359 --> 00:32:46.579
to engage there. Yeah, I guess. I'm not saying

00:32:46.579 --> 00:32:48.960
he's an exciting fighter, but he has been in

00:32:48.960 --> 00:32:52.859
some good fights, you know. Again, it's like,

00:32:53.019 --> 00:32:56.599
the Matias one, you can't, like, Matias is the

00:32:56.599 --> 00:33:03.069
action fighter. He's the action fighter. Speaking

00:33:03.069 --> 00:33:11.450
of action fighters... Oh, go ahead. I was about

00:33:11.450 --> 00:33:14.109
to say, right now, with what's been going on

00:33:14.109 --> 00:33:18.509
with the pieces moving, I foresee, and I know

00:33:18.509 --> 00:33:20.609
I was making fun of this too a couple months

00:33:20.609 --> 00:33:24.990
back, I see Lamont Roach and Gary Antoine while

00:33:24.990 --> 00:33:27.569
still happening. I honestly see that shit happening.

00:33:28.829 --> 00:33:31.369
Oh, man. Roach is going to lose the cruise, though.

00:33:32.009 --> 00:33:36.309
You think so? What? I think Roach loses the cruise.

00:33:36.450 --> 00:33:38.930
I just don't think Roach has it to, like, get

00:33:38.930 --> 00:33:43.369
him off him. You're kidding me. No, I do not

00:33:43.369 --> 00:33:47.970
think a Jamel Herring victim has it to get a

00:33:47.970 --> 00:33:52.609
guy off him. Really? I don't know. I highly disagree

00:33:52.609 --> 00:33:56.009
with you. I think it's definitely possible that

00:33:56.009 --> 00:33:58.990
he can. I just don't think anything that he's

00:33:58.990 --> 00:34:03.970
shown in his career. I mean, no, I can see why

00:34:03.970 --> 00:34:06.329
you're saying it. Yeah, like I get, like I don't,

00:34:06.329 --> 00:34:09.369
like it's just, it is the take I have. I accept

00:34:09.369 --> 00:34:11.469
other takes. It's not like I could totally be

00:34:11.469 --> 00:34:14.449
proven wrong and he boxes circles around Cruz.

00:34:15.389 --> 00:34:19.230
I'm just saying this, that Ryo outboxed Pitbull.

00:34:19.309 --> 00:34:21.829
Pitbull is very one -dimensional. Ryo is also

00:34:21.829 --> 00:34:25.989
good. Ryo is okay. He's pretty good, but I think,

00:34:26.070 --> 00:34:28.610
honestly... Yeah, Ryo... But the thing is that

00:34:28.610 --> 00:34:33.010
Ryo belongs at these weight classes and has the

00:34:33.010 --> 00:34:37.389
strength to keep him off. Because Roach... Like,

00:34:37.530 --> 00:34:41.530
again, Roach came up, is coming from 130, basically,

00:34:41.530 --> 00:34:45.750
straight to 140. With a pit stop of 135 against

00:34:45.750 --> 00:34:50.610
Tank. Tank is basically also a 130 guy. I'm not

00:34:50.610 --> 00:34:53.530
trying to overrate Roach because of the tank

00:34:53.530 --> 00:34:55.570
fight. I just think that he's the better boxer.

00:34:56.070 --> 00:34:59.130
Yeah. It's not hard to be the better boxer than

00:34:59.130 --> 00:35:02.409
Cruz. I just think he's just not big enough.

00:35:03.650 --> 00:35:07.369
Like, Cruz just, the setup, he's not big enough,

00:35:07.449 --> 00:35:12.130
and the IQ is not enough to keep Cruz from just

00:35:12.130 --> 00:35:15.670
coming at him and catching him. I don't know.

00:35:15.710 --> 00:35:18.650
I highly disagree. I think he can use that box,

00:35:18.769 --> 00:35:22.000
Cruz. Pipo Cruz is not that good of a fighter.

00:35:22.079 --> 00:35:24.980
I mean, he's exciting. No, absolutely not. He's

00:35:24.980 --> 00:35:28.980
a treat to watch, but I mean, I guess boxing,

00:35:29.099 --> 00:35:33.000
what's his name? Giovanni Cabrera. He's a terrible

00:35:33.000 --> 00:35:37.380
boxer, but he gave people problems. Yeah. I mean,

00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:39.139
come on. I mean, Lamont Roach is a Jamal Herring

00:35:39.139 --> 00:35:44.760
victim, yes, but is that horrible? You know?

00:35:44.820 --> 00:35:47.300
Pretty horrible. Obviously, like, horrible enough

00:35:47.300 --> 00:35:53.329
to lose to Pipo Cruz. You know? The one thing

00:35:53.329 --> 00:35:55.070
I got to say is that, yeah, you're right about

00:35:55.070 --> 00:35:58.150
the power. I didn't... I mean... Yeah, like,

00:35:58.150 --> 00:36:01.650
it's just the size and strength difference. I

00:36:01.650 --> 00:36:05.349
mean, he knocked out Rowley. You know? I just

00:36:05.349 --> 00:36:07.309
think you gotta think... You just have to think

00:36:07.309 --> 00:36:10.449
on the perspective of, like, can he... Does he

00:36:10.449 --> 00:36:15.710
have the cardio to do it for all 12? Without...

00:36:15.710 --> 00:36:19.599
Like... I think he does. Because the thing is

00:36:19.599 --> 00:36:21.619
that it's not even like he can get in the clinch.

00:36:21.619 --> 00:36:25.679
He's going to get bullied in the clinch Like

00:36:25.679 --> 00:36:29.579
you need like it like really you gotta wait on

00:36:29.579 --> 00:36:31.559
the finer details because if the ring is huge,

00:36:31.820 --> 00:36:35.860
yeah, okay it's easy pickings right, but if the

00:36:35.860 --> 00:36:41.179
rate it's a smaller ring and He's not quite used

00:36:41.179 --> 00:36:43.860
to one he doesn't acclimatize to 140 properly

00:36:45.179 --> 00:36:47.199
Like you know like this there's a lot of little

00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:50.400
factors that can really do it here Yeah, how

00:36:50.400 --> 00:36:52.880
many fights has it been since Roche's last battle

00:36:52.880 --> 00:36:59.380
pro box? Look a couple right it's been a while

00:36:59.380 --> 00:37:02.940
because he did in a while Is that pro box buff

00:37:02.940 --> 00:37:05.920
wear out after a while? I'm pretty sure it's

00:37:05.920 --> 00:37:09.079
worn off now that like I think the fight before

00:37:09.079 --> 00:37:13.530
tank was Provox. Oh yeah, that was Provox. I

00:37:13.530 --> 00:37:19.389
think the tank fight was his Provox buff. Yeah,

00:37:19.389 --> 00:37:21.530
maybe he didn't have the Provox buff come into

00:37:21.530 --> 00:37:24.550
this fight. I also think Cruz is going to...

00:37:24.550 --> 00:37:27.010
It depends if Cruz also shows up with a fire

00:37:27.010 --> 00:37:30.309
under his ass because his ability to cut off

00:37:30.309 --> 00:37:33.610
the ring looks significantly different based

00:37:33.610 --> 00:37:40.679
on opponent. Like Cabrera and Rowley. Like, they

00:37:40.679 --> 00:37:43.840
look about the same when they're moving away

00:37:43.840 --> 00:37:46.440
from Cruz. But obviously, he had a fire under

00:37:46.440 --> 00:37:51.340
his ass to catch Roley, but not Cabrera. I mean,

00:37:51.360 --> 00:37:55.480
even his last fight, I mean, obviously, it wasn't

00:37:55.480 --> 00:37:57.059
really against the greatest fighter, but at the

00:37:57.059 --> 00:38:00.280
same time, I didn't see that fire in him. No.

00:38:00.380 --> 00:38:02.320
So, like, he can totally show up with a fire

00:38:02.320 --> 00:38:07.889
under his ass. Yeah. Like, it's a good... It's

00:38:07.889 --> 00:38:10.570
a 50 -50 fight, but I don't think it's as, like,

00:38:10.590 --> 00:38:13.250
significant of a fight as it's gonna be billed

00:38:13.250 --> 00:38:16.510
as. Well, no, honestly, the fight itself is kind

00:38:16.510 --> 00:38:20.429
of a tragedy. The simple fact that it's fucking,

00:38:20.489 --> 00:38:23.269
what, a pay -per -view? I've seen worse pay -per

00:38:23.269 --> 00:38:27.409
-views. Yeah, but I just feel like this fight's

00:38:27.409 --> 00:38:29.489
gonna be, like, 75 % chance of being a stinker.

00:38:30.030 --> 00:38:32.269
Oh, sure. They're gonna stack the undercard,

00:38:32.329 --> 00:38:36.139
though. I don't know. I mean... A lot of the

00:38:36.139 --> 00:38:41.880
other PBC fighters, I know Lara. We're talking

00:38:41.880 --> 00:38:43.260
about her right now, but Lara's going to be fighting,

00:38:43.380 --> 00:38:46.719
I believe, in January. Gary Antoine Russell's

00:38:46.719 --> 00:38:51.860
fighting on the Tank undercard. No, it's Janet

00:38:51.860 --> 00:38:54.599
Beck and Lara on the undercard of this Roach

00:38:54.599 --> 00:38:58.659
-Cruz fight. It is? Yeah. That was announced

00:38:58.659 --> 00:39:02.070
yesterday. Oh, shit. Oh, so it's... Okay, then

00:39:02.070 --> 00:39:03.789
I take the back. Yeah, so I was going to say,

00:39:03.809 --> 00:39:05.090
like, this is going to be a good card. Yeah.

00:39:05.929 --> 00:39:09.510
Mark Magsayo's kind of basic, but he's getting

00:39:09.510 --> 00:39:13.889
a... He's rumored to be fighting an Italian guy

00:39:13.889 --> 00:39:18.389
who also tends to have pretty fun fights. Okay,

00:39:18.449 --> 00:39:21.389
okay. So, like, Mark Magsayo's getting a fun

00:39:21.389 --> 00:39:25.429
opponent, and, like, Janabek Lara is going to

00:39:25.429 --> 00:39:27.750
be... is going to be on this card. So I'm like,

00:39:27.789 --> 00:39:30.309
at least they're going to stack the card. Well,

00:39:30.389 --> 00:39:32.329
the people that watch the show know how I feel

00:39:32.329 --> 00:39:35.349
about Janabek, so. No. I'm for sure. Oh, listen,

00:39:35.469 --> 00:39:37.289
man. I want Lara to win just because it's hilarious.

00:39:37.349 --> 00:39:41.070
It'd be hilarious. I'll pay a cheeky tenner.

00:39:42.849 --> 00:39:45.090
They'll suck the money out of my ass for it,

00:39:45.090 --> 00:39:47.349
for sure. I was wondering if that was coming.

00:39:49.690 --> 00:39:52.929
They can suck the money out of my ass. All right.

00:39:52.949 --> 00:39:55.730
But I will say that Janabek Lara is honestly

00:39:55.730 --> 00:39:57.190
more pay -per -view worthy than this fucking

00:39:57.190 --> 00:40:00.619
Roach Cruz. Oh, for sure. The issue is that Janet

00:40:00.619 --> 00:40:05.320
Beck is a top -ranked loan. Yeah. So, you can't.

00:40:05.440 --> 00:40:09.980
I mean, the fight itself, I mean, the fight being

00:40:09.980 --> 00:40:12.320
made on pay -per -view is kind of showing a bad

00:40:12.320 --> 00:40:15.380
symptom of a PBC running dry on the fighters,

00:40:15.519 --> 00:40:18.739
you know? No, it's just no TV deal. No TV deal

00:40:18.739 --> 00:40:21.500
and Amazon not giving a shit. That too, yeah.

00:40:21.659 --> 00:40:25.019
Like, again, if they had that deal with Netflix,

00:40:25.260 --> 00:40:27.280
like, if PBC had the same deal they had with

00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:30.389
Amazon but with Netflix, We get a lot more free

00:40:30.389 --> 00:40:33.309
cards because Netflix, just the existence of

00:40:33.309 --> 00:40:37.130
having a this is what's live right now or these

00:40:37.130 --> 00:40:39.369
are live events tab when you log into Netflix.

00:40:40.349 --> 00:40:44.090
Does so much for promotion. It's huge for promotion.

00:40:44.510 --> 00:40:47.489
Amazon is very passive. They'll host the fight.

00:40:47.590 --> 00:40:50.409
They won't do anything else. There are other

00:40:50.409 --> 00:40:53.889
martial arts promotions that are on Amazon that

00:40:53.889 --> 00:40:56.849
are next to fucking impossible to find. Yeah,

00:40:56.869 --> 00:41:00.289
like, Amazon is very apathetic about this stuff,

00:41:00.469 --> 00:41:03.170
whereas Netflix, like, Netflix will treat it

00:41:03.170 --> 00:41:05.130
like they do the rest of their programming, which

00:41:05.130 --> 00:41:10.690
is to say they care about making money. I mean,

00:41:10.690 --> 00:41:12.650
yeah, they see that the sport does make money.

00:41:12.849 --> 00:41:16.010
Like, they give a shit. They don't even have

00:41:16.010 --> 00:41:18.309
to give that much of a shit. It's just that,

00:41:18.329 --> 00:41:20.510
like, you display it with the rest of your programming

00:41:20.510 --> 00:41:22.750
and say, this is what's new, this is what's live,

00:41:22.949 --> 00:41:27.269
this is coming up. And that's it. That's all

00:41:27.269 --> 00:41:32.190
you gotta do. But, yeah, like, PBC got a bit

00:41:32.190 --> 00:41:34.550
of a short end of a stick with Amazon, but I'm

00:41:34.550 --> 00:41:36.570
sure they'll adjust to it and start promoting

00:41:36.570 --> 00:41:39.150
properly. Like, Showtime was also a bit of a

00:41:39.150 --> 00:41:42.570
growing pains period when they were with Showtime.

00:41:43.889 --> 00:41:47.289
That was after Fox, right? No, Showtime was before

00:41:47.289 --> 00:41:53.730
Fox, but HBO was still around. Oh, yeah. When

00:41:53.730 --> 00:41:59.050
were they on CBS, then? That was, I think, after...

00:41:59.050 --> 00:42:04.090
No, when PBC first started, when they first launched,

00:42:04.170 --> 00:42:11.469
they were getting time buys on CBS, Fox, ESPN,

00:42:11.869 --> 00:42:15.550
Spike TV, if you remember that. Yeah, Spike TV.

00:42:15.650 --> 00:42:19.550
Spike TV, yeah. That's the one. So they were

00:42:19.550 --> 00:42:21.150
putting themselves out everywhere just to see

00:42:21.150 --> 00:42:26.340
what was working. Yeah. No, Showtime was a bread

00:42:26.340 --> 00:42:28.400
and butter. Showtime was a bread and butter.

00:42:28.440 --> 00:42:34.860
Yes, it was. Yeah. All right. Callum Smith versus

00:42:34.860 --> 00:42:40.260
David Morrell. How do you feel about this? This

00:42:40.260 --> 00:42:42.039
fight's going to be cool. This fight's going

00:42:42.039 --> 00:42:45.280
to be cool as long as it lasts. Callum Smith

00:42:45.280 --> 00:42:47.599
is a damn... He's got heart. I mean, we make

00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:50.190
fun of a lot of British people in this... yeah

00:42:50.190 --> 00:42:52.829
in this uh in this pod but you know what i gotta

00:42:52.829 --> 00:42:54.789
give it to calum smith he has heart dude calum

00:42:54.789 --> 00:42:58.469
smith is calum smith is like barely british yeah

00:42:58.469 --> 00:43:02.429
his nickname is mundo he's he's barely british

00:43:02.429 --> 00:43:08.619
like he like he's got power he can box somewhat

00:43:08.619 --> 00:43:12.039
he's got a fuck ton of heart he's got a chin

00:43:12.039 --> 00:43:15.960
like he's got he he's never had like a he never

00:43:15.960 --> 00:43:18.159
has really a boring fight honestly like i think

00:43:18.159 --> 00:43:21.000
the most boring he had was that the one where

00:43:21.000 --> 00:43:26.260
he robbed john rider oh yeah that was a bit that

00:43:26.260 --> 00:43:30.079
was a little stinky but like i don't know like

00:43:32.730 --> 00:43:34.949
But, like, otherwise, like, he generally stops

00:43:34.949 --> 00:43:38.309
his guy or loses entertainingly. Yeah, I mean,

00:43:38.329 --> 00:43:40.949
yeah, he lost to Canelo. Pretty alright fight.

00:43:40.969 --> 00:43:43.190
Like, the Canelo fight was kind of, it wasn't

00:43:43.190 --> 00:43:45.869
even boring. It was just, like, routine. Yeah.

00:43:46.530 --> 00:43:48.269
His fight with Betterby was alright. You know,

00:43:48.269 --> 00:43:50.210
I liked his fight with Betterby. It was a good

00:43:50.210 --> 00:43:54.329
fight. Yeah. It was a bit of a fun snuff film,

00:43:54.429 --> 00:43:57.550
you know? Like, Betterby punching him right in

00:43:57.550 --> 00:44:01.590
the throat. Yeah. It was kind of crazy. Fun snuff

00:44:01.590 --> 00:44:06.380
film. The Boazzi fight was really good. That

00:44:06.380 --> 00:44:08.460
was a good fight. Looking up to make sure I got

00:44:08.460 --> 00:44:10.840
the name right. Yeah, that was the one that sold

00:44:10.840 --> 00:44:14.059
me. Him at 175, honestly. I know it's his most

00:44:14.059 --> 00:44:16.460
recent, but I was not sold with some of his 175

00:44:16.460 --> 00:44:20.340
names. Yeah, he fights everybody. I got to give

00:44:20.340 --> 00:44:21.780
him respect. He fights everybody, even if he

00:44:21.780 --> 00:44:24.360
loses. He'll put on a good show. He's barely

00:44:24.360 --> 00:44:27.900
British in that aspect. And Morel's going to

00:44:27.900 --> 00:44:31.260
bring it. Morel is really good. I actually...

00:44:32.019 --> 00:44:34.699
Like, he's so, he's really good. The loss to

00:44:34.699 --> 00:44:37.659
Benavidez is nothing to be ashamed of. Agreed.

00:44:38.559 --> 00:44:40.579
Well, I will say that last fight he had with

00:44:40.579 --> 00:44:42.980
Katya was a little, it was a little rough. I'm

00:44:42.980 --> 00:44:48.940
not gonna lie. Yeah. Yeah. Morel's got some growing

00:44:48.940 --> 00:44:54.380
pains right now in terms of development. And,

00:44:54.400 --> 00:44:58.260
uh, I will say that was a fucking beating that

00:44:58.260 --> 00:45:02.239
Benavidez put on him. Yeah. So, like, those are

00:45:02.239 --> 00:45:04.099
miles on the clock you don't really get back.

00:45:04.719 --> 00:45:07.820
The thing is that also is that, honestly, like,

00:45:07.920 --> 00:45:11.380
him switching trainers too can... Yeah, you got

00:45:11.380 --> 00:45:14.400
growing pains there. Yeah. And honestly, it's

00:45:14.400 --> 00:45:17.059
like... I see this fight being 50 -50, honestly.

00:45:18.239 --> 00:45:20.940
I know it's kind of crazy to say, but... I mean,

00:45:20.940 --> 00:45:27.800
I guess he counts me with winning. Yeah. It's

00:45:27.800 --> 00:45:32.500
totally possible. Yeah. Anything more for Callum

00:45:32.500 --> 00:45:35.619
Smith, David Moreau? Is that going to be on a

00:45:35.619 --> 00:45:40.059
PBC card, or is that going to be on a Riyadh

00:45:40.059 --> 00:45:43.280
card? I'm assuming it's a Riyadh card. I'm going

00:45:43.280 --> 00:45:46.719
to assume it is as well. Riyadh's been using

00:45:46.719 --> 00:45:49.820
David Moreau a lot, a lot being twice, but that's

00:45:49.820 --> 00:45:52.659
a good amount for being a PBC fighter. Yeah,

00:45:52.699 --> 00:45:57.519
Eddie Hearn, Eddie Hearn, and Saudi. I got a

00:45:57.519 --> 00:45:58.980
feeling that David Morales is not really going

00:45:58.980 --> 00:46:02.820
to stay with PBC for the foreseeable future.

00:46:02.980 --> 00:46:04.900
I think that he's going to leave. Yeah, I don't

00:46:04.900 --> 00:46:08.219
see that. Because I feel like, honestly, like,

00:46:08.239 --> 00:46:11.599
yeah, they promoted him well, but having him

00:46:11.599 --> 00:46:16.880
fight, you know, once every couple, not every

00:46:16.880 --> 00:46:19.139
couple months, but like eight months, yeah, that

00:46:19.139 --> 00:46:22.199
doesn't really do good for his development, you

00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:25.500
know? I see him going to, like, probably a match

00:46:25.500 --> 00:46:30.119
room. I think he'll just stay with Riyad season

00:46:30.119 --> 00:46:36.199
or ring. Yeah. And Janabek Lara, that's... We

00:46:36.199 --> 00:46:37.719
haven't even touched that fight yet. I mean,

00:46:37.719 --> 00:46:39.880
that's... I'm not going to say that's the greatest

00:46:39.880 --> 00:46:42.880
fight in the world, honestly. Again, it is unification.

00:46:43.380 --> 00:46:46.139
I obviously see Janabek winning that fight. Lara

00:46:46.139 --> 00:46:47.639
is going to get out. This is probably going to

00:46:47.639 --> 00:46:50.400
be his retirement fight. If he loses, he's probably

00:46:50.400 --> 00:46:53.590
going to get knocked out bad. If he loses. If

00:46:53.590 --> 00:46:56.670
he loses. We've been saying, we've been saying,

00:46:56.670 --> 00:46:58.989
Lara's going to retire for like a decade now.

00:46:59.309 --> 00:47:03.449
True. Yeah, but this is, this is, come on. Yeah,

00:47:03.449 --> 00:47:06.869
so I have not, I have not been a Janabek believer.

00:47:08.949 --> 00:47:11.110
Let's say, let's say, let's say Janabek knocks

00:47:11.110 --> 00:47:13.650
out Eric Landry Lara. Okay. Would you guys become

00:47:13.650 --> 00:47:16.570
believers? I believe in him being the best at

00:47:16.570 --> 00:47:19.389
160. I would not believe in him for anything.

00:47:19.920 --> 00:47:23.139
I believe he beats Adamas, but I don't believe

00:47:23.139 --> 00:47:26.659
he moves up. I believe the top 10 at 168, Ransom,

00:47:26.659 --> 00:47:31.360
too. You think Canelo beats him? Oh, my God.

00:47:31.519 --> 00:47:35.239
I think Canelo. Like, come on. Canelo could show

00:47:35.239 --> 00:47:39.420
up on two beers and beat this guy. Whoa, whoa,

00:47:39.420 --> 00:47:41.820
whoa. You think Canelo doesn't beat Janabek?

00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:44.019
You're telling me that Canelo... No, I think

00:47:44.019 --> 00:47:51.809
Canelo beats Janabek. Okay. You gotta remember

00:47:51.809 --> 00:47:55.309
that Janabek, as much as he's still in the young

00:47:55.309 --> 00:47:58.730
champion, borderline prospect stage of his career,

00:47:58.769 --> 00:48:04.769
he's 32. And had a long amateur career. I mean,

00:48:04.789 --> 00:48:08.190
you can't see the skills in this guy. I can.

00:48:09.110 --> 00:48:13.570
I also see that he's kind of small and struggled

00:48:13.570 --> 00:48:19.719
against Denzel Bentley. He's the one Yes, it

00:48:19.719 --> 00:48:23.500
was come on. Yeah, I was gonna say like like

00:48:23.500 --> 00:48:25.559
he should not be struggling with these guys though.

00:48:26.260 --> 00:48:29.980
I mean He generally doesn't struggle but like

00:48:29.980 --> 00:48:33.139
boots boots fucking struggle to get today's and

00:48:33.139 --> 00:48:38.780
you took his adhesion Karen's an enormously negative

00:48:38.780 --> 00:48:45.940
opponent though the guy you can strut Bentley

00:48:45.940 --> 00:48:48.059
wasn't negative. Bentley was there to get hit.

00:48:48.119 --> 00:48:51.719
He just didn't hit him. He just didn't hit him.

00:48:51.780 --> 00:48:57.280
Bad night. Bad night. He's a 32 -year -old middleweight

00:48:57.280 --> 00:49:02.239
champion that is fighting. I just don't. I'm

00:49:02.239 --> 00:49:06.780
just not sold. I'm going to be real. As much

00:49:06.780 --> 00:49:11.139
as we could open the Golovkin can of worms, Golovkin

00:49:11.139 --> 00:49:15.659
had way more skills. There's direct comparison.

00:49:15.760 --> 00:49:20.460
I don't know. Golovkin could box way more than

00:49:20.460 --> 00:49:25.760
Janabek. You got to chime in on this. Yeah, I'm

00:49:25.760 --> 00:49:27.900
trying. Now that you've thrown Golovkin into

00:49:27.900 --> 00:49:32.619
the mix. The direct comparison point in terms

00:49:32.619 --> 00:49:37.019
of a dominant middleweight run. Golovkin had

00:49:37.019 --> 00:49:39.380
a better run than Janabek is having right now.

00:49:39.679 --> 00:49:45.139
Yeah, and against, like, again. I will slag Golovkin

00:49:45.139 --> 00:49:47.940
for not having, like, the A -plus tier opposition

00:49:47.940 --> 00:49:51.059
until the very end of his career. But at least

00:49:51.059 --> 00:49:55.719
he cleaned out the B and C guys. I'm just sad.

00:49:55.760 --> 00:49:59.659
I think you'll be surprised. I'm not going to

00:49:59.659 --> 00:50:02.559
dog on you because it's fair to say that, you

00:50:02.559 --> 00:50:04.000
know, Jenna Beck isn't showing anything because

00:50:04.000 --> 00:50:05.980
he has a lot of opposition. Yeah, like, I'm just

00:50:05.980 --> 00:50:10.320
not a believer. And Janabek, if he beats Lara,

00:50:10.480 --> 00:50:12.639
yeah, he's the best at 160. I don't think he

00:50:12.639 --> 00:50:13.820
can move up and have any success. I think he

00:50:13.820 --> 00:50:20.820
already is the best at 160. Lara's just been

00:50:20.820 --> 00:50:29.500
around for so long and not like... Somehow still

00:50:29.500 --> 00:50:33.639
winning rather impressively. You think Janabek

00:50:33.639 --> 00:50:36.260
beats... Or longer? Do you think he beats Shiraz?

00:50:36.420 --> 00:50:38.739
Do you think he beats Munguia? Wait, are we saying

00:50:38.739 --> 00:50:42.360
these guys are top 10 at 160? Is 160 that thin?

00:50:43.599 --> 00:50:46.960
168, these are the known guys at 168. I'm saying

00:50:46.960 --> 00:50:51.420
top 10, you guys. I don't think he beats Pacheco.

00:50:52.260 --> 00:50:57.940
According to BoxRec, he's number 8. Let me go

00:50:57.940 --> 00:51:00.219
through the BoxRec. Okay, yeah, number 8. Number

00:51:00.219 --> 00:51:06.909
8. I think Munguia. He beats Munguia. He beats

00:51:06.909 --> 00:51:08.989
Munguia. He beats Shiraz. He beats Berlanga.

00:51:10.730 --> 00:51:13.690
Berlanga is number 17 on BoxRec. That's not a...

00:51:13.690 --> 00:51:16.570
I would say he's a name, though. He's a name.

00:51:16.949 --> 00:51:24.429
I think him and Shiraz is actually a really good

00:51:24.429 --> 00:51:26.809
fight if he wants to move up. I'd rate Johnny

00:51:26.809 --> 00:51:30.210
Beck to beat Christian and Beely. This is true,

00:51:30.309 --> 00:51:33.340
actually. Yeah, that's true. I think that's a

00:51:33.340 --> 00:51:38.380
good fight as well. Not Lester. I don't know.

00:51:39.059 --> 00:51:44.920
And he has good coaching. I'm saying give Lester

00:51:44.920 --> 00:51:50.480
three more fights at top 20 level and he's a

00:51:50.480 --> 00:51:56.340
menace. He got better during the fight with Mbili.

00:51:57.519 --> 00:52:02.139
The ability to adapt is... Yeah, but Lester straight

00:52:02.139 --> 00:52:06.900
up got better through the fight. Yeah. So, that's

00:52:06.900 --> 00:52:10.059
fair. No, never mind. I felt 168 was... Jermall,

00:52:10.059 --> 00:52:13.500
Charlo, as he is right now, Johnny Beck beats

00:52:13.500 --> 00:52:18.199
him. Yeah, I'm thinking... The Jermall of five

00:52:18.199 --> 00:52:25.340
years ago? Hell nah. Yeah, 168's kind of top

00:52:25.340 --> 00:52:27.159
-heavy when you think about it. That was a bad

00:52:27.159 --> 00:52:30.750
comparison. Yeah, maybe if you were to say...

00:52:30.750 --> 00:52:34.530
I was thinking 168 two years ago, and we still

00:52:34.530 --> 00:52:37.409
had Benavidez and Morrell in the division, and

00:52:37.409 --> 00:52:40.750
Plant was still good. I would say probably Benavidez

00:52:40.750 --> 00:52:45.070
does beat Janabek. Probably. Yeah, probably.

00:52:46.309 --> 00:52:49.429
I think he stops Janabek. Yeah, I was about to

00:52:49.429 --> 00:52:52.170
say, I think Benavidez decimates Janabek. Not

00:52:52.170 --> 00:52:55.070
even disrespectfully to Janabek, that's just...

00:52:55.070 --> 00:52:58.179
Well, Janabek's also a power puncher. Doesn't

00:52:58.179 --> 00:53:00.579
matter. Benavidez is going to hit him with 32

00:53:00.579 --> 00:53:04.900
before he lands the one. He's also not bad at

00:53:04.900 --> 00:53:08.840
counterpunching either. I feel like Android is

00:53:08.840 --> 00:53:12.579
the best analog for a good middleweight in this

00:53:12.579 --> 00:53:19.119
era moving up to fight Benavidez. Benavidez just

00:53:19.119 --> 00:53:22.940
fucking knocked the braids out of that man. I'm

00:53:22.940 --> 00:53:24.969
not saying he doesn't. I'm just saying, like,

00:53:24.989 --> 00:53:28.510
that's a pretty good fight. I'm not even saying

00:53:28.510 --> 00:53:30.710
Janovic isn't competitive in these fights that

00:53:30.710 --> 00:53:34.650
he loses. I just don't think he wins them. Like,

00:53:34.650 --> 00:53:38.250
he's competitive and he loses them. I mean, what

00:53:38.250 --> 00:53:40.889
exactly is kind of turning you off is my question.

00:53:41.670 --> 00:53:44.530
Like, it really is just the Denzel Bentley fight

00:53:44.530 --> 00:53:47.070
and, like, how he kind of just looks unimpressive

00:53:47.070 --> 00:53:51.610
and then stops the guy. Like, it's really a lot

00:53:51.610 --> 00:53:55.469
of, like, eye test. But like, like again, with

00:53:55.469 --> 00:53:57.570
like the Golovkin being the analog, Golovkin

00:53:57.570 --> 00:53:59.929
always looked great while steamrolling a guy.

00:54:00.389 --> 00:54:02.929
Janabek just kind of, he's there, he stops the

00:54:02.929 --> 00:54:08.809
guy. He's there until he stops the guy. I can't

00:54:08.809 --> 00:54:10.949
disagree with you about Golovkin because I mean,

00:54:11.050 --> 00:54:14.190
people talk about him being a whole thing, but

00:54:14.190 --> 00:54:17.369
I mean. No, but I'm saying like as a direct analog

00:54:17.369 --> 00:54:22.889
of like the like. Kazakh middleweights. The Kazakh

00:54:22.889 --> 00:54:26.150
middleweights that don't exactly face A -plus

00:54:26.150 --> 00:54:32.389
opposition, like, Golovkin generally looked really

00:54:32.389 --> 00:54:37.349
good. Oh, like, just, like, he looks great. He

00:54:37.349 --> 00:54:39.429
steamrolls these guys. He steamrolls these guys.

00:54:39.510 --> 00:54:42.829
Like, like, like, Janabek, like, like, Curtis,

00:54:42.889 --> 00:54:48.489
like, rolling over Curtis Stevens. And David

00:54:48.489 --> 00:54:51.750
Lemieux is like stuff that like Genevieve. Genevieve

00:54:51.750 --> 00:54:55.489
probably still stops them, but he probably just

00:54:55.489 --> 00:54:58.469
doesn't look that good against them either. It's

00:54:58.469 --> 00:54:59.750
unfortunate because Genevieve hasn't had the

00:54:59.750 --> 00:55:01.750
opportunity to fight these other top guys. Also

00:55:01.750 --> 00:55:04.610
considering how 160 is a fucking dead division.

00:55:05.590 --> 00:55:07.570
That's the problem. But the thing is that there

00:55:07.570 --> 00:55:10.469
weren't, there were no top guys at 160 in Golovkin's

00:55:10.469 --> 00:55:12.650
day either until the end of his career. Well,

00:55:12.730 --> 00:55:15.550
they were better than the guys now. No, the thing

00:55:15.550 --> 00:55:18.230
is that he'd like, I blame his promoter more

00:55:18.230 --> 00:55:24.269
for an Adamas fight never materializing. Adamas

00:55:24.269 --> 00:55:27.489
has always been there to cross promotions. It's

00:55:27.489 --> 00:55:31.809
never been an Adamas issue. I mean, I got to

00:55:31.809 --> 00:55:34.809
say this with how you kind of talk about Janabek.

00:55:35.489 --> 00:55:38.809
I mean, let me be Keishon Davis versus Naheer

00:55:38.809 --> 00:55:41.309
Albright. If you go purely off that fight, would

00:55:41.309 --> 00:55:46.449
you think that Keishon Davis is eh? Yeah, but

00:55:46.449 --> 00:55:52.570
Kishan... Kishan also has other guys that he's

00:55:52.570 --> 00:55:55.869
beaten. I'm staying up to that Nihil -Albright

00:55:55.869 --> 00:55:57.909
fight, you know? Yeah. If you've just seen that

00:55:57.909 --> 00:56:00.510
fight purely, be like, oh, I mean, he's alright,

00:56:00.750 --> 00:56:03.409
but I mean... Yeah, but, I mean, he looked great.

00:56:03.469 --> 00:56:07.929
He looks great up until then, too. Like, I'm

00:56:07.929 --> 00:56:10.670
not saying... Again, a lot of Jannifex stoppages

00:56:10.670 --> 00:56:13.769
are just kind of like... They're very, like...

00:56:14.889 --> 00:56:17.610
He doesn't steamroll them. He doesn't do much

00:56:17.610 --> 00:56:19.989
work until the stoppage. The stoppage kind of

00:56:19.989 --> 00:56:23.349
just comes. They're fine. Yeah, but at the same

00:56:23.349 --> 00:56:26.070
time, he still wins. He's still buying the win.

00:56:26.389 --> 00:56:29.230
But the thing is that there's a difference between

00:56:29.230 --> 00:56:33.670
steamrolling your opponent. It's just the difference

00:56:33.670 --> 00:56:35.929
in how much confidence I have in him going into

00:56:35.929 --> 00:56:39.929
a fight against one of the few top guys in the

00:56:39.929 --> 00:56:43.579
division. Like how much dog he has? Yeah, like,

00:56:43.599 --> 00:56:48.159
can he even make the stoppage materialize? Because,

00:56:48.179 --> 00:56:52.300
like, a lot of these guys, again, you had faith

00:56:52.300 --> 00:56:55.260
in Golovkin going into his A -plus matchups because

00:56:55.260 --> 00:56:58.420
of how good he looked prior. With Janabek, it's

00:56:58.420 --> 00:57:01.800
like, yeah, he could win, but he could also just

00:57:01.800 --> 00:57:06.059
do nothing for 12 rounds and get shut out. Like,

00:57:06.059 --> 00:57:10.559
there's no X factor to convince me on Janabek.

00:57:12.000 --> 00:57:14.719
More than I have faith in Lara, there's just

00:57:14.719 --> 00:57:17.659
no X factor to convince me on Janabek. He won't

00:57:17.659 --> 00:57:22.280
make things happen. I think you're underrating

00:57:22.280 --> 00:57:27.119
Janabek. I can only rate him by how he looks

00:57:27.119 --> 00:57:29.519
against the quality of opposition he fights.

00:57:30.460 --> 00:57:35.199
At the end of the day, I can only rate him. Again,

00:57:36.119 --> 00:57:38.920
Golovkin also faced the B and C guys of his day.

00:57:39.019 --> 00:57:41.800
I will slag Golovkin not. like fighting Andre

00:57:41.800 --> 00:57:45.340
Ward forever. But when Golovkin fought those

00:57:45.340 --> 00:57:48.440
BNC guys, he steamrolled those guys and made

00:57:48.440 --> 00:57:52.539
those stoppages happen. Janabek does not do that

00:57:52.539 --> 00:57:56.739
the same, like even close to the same way. He

00:57:56.739 --> 00:57:58.619
doesn't necessarily steamroll him, but at the

00:57:58.619 --> 00:58:01.519
same time, they're all different styles. Yeah.

00:58:02.280 --> 00:58:05.460
So that's why I said the Lara fight is a great

00:58:05.460 --> 00:58:07.500
measuring stick for Janabek because I'm like,

00:58:07.539 --> 00:58:10.550
I don't care, like... Lara is basically an angel

00:58:10.550 --> 00:58:15.610
swander at this point. I'm going to say he's

00:58:15.610 --> 00:58:19.789
going to steamroll Lara. I think he is. I just

00:58:19.789 --> 00:58:23.809
think he's... If Lara is still... Again, he's

00:58:23.809 --> 00:58:30.309
fucking ancient. But... Like... I don't know.

00:58:30.329 --> 00:58:33.630
The way... I don't think he's going to stop Lara.

00:58:35.190 --> 00:58:39.780
I think it'll be a little competitive. You know,

00:58:39.820 --> 00:58:42.199
if Lara makes it tricky enough where Janet Beck

00:58:42.199 --> 00:58:45.199
can't find the stoppage, it'll be interesting

00:58:45.199 --> 00:58:48.840
to see how it goes down the line. We'll see what

00:58:48.840 --> 00:58:54.900
happens. I got faith in the man. All right. Let's

00:58:54.900 --> 00:58:59.599
roll on here. That's it for the news. Fucking

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recaps. No recaps because there was nothing really

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previews we don't have a lot coming up um we

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have really had to scrape the bottom of the barrel

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here um first one quickly not quite i don't see

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country box here okay uh they're not quite there

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country box yeah like a country yeah whenever

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we include country box uh rough and rowdy Bare

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knuckle. That's when you know we're really...

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Or street beefs events. Street beef events, crazy.

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My younger brother put me on the street beefs.

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Get these guys in the UK, dude. Put these guys

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on Probox. Nah, not quite. Probox is for professionals.

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Yeah, pros. Put these guys on matchroom shows

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in the UK. Really quickly, Most Valuable Prospects

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18 at the South Padre Island Convention Center

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in South Padre, Texas. South Padre Island, Texas.

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This is mostly a women's card. Sharetta Metcalf

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fighting Crystal Ortiz. Desley Robinson and Logan

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Holler for the IBF and WBO middleweight titles.

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And headlining Lourdes Juarez versus Jessica

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Plata for the WBC Light Flyweight title. It's

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really exciting stuff. For the main part of the

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dish, Farewell to Brooklyn, brought to you by

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Danny Swift Garcia Promotions. I actually...

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That's a good name. That's a good subtitle for

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this card. I will say, it's rare that we actually

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get decent titles for cards post -90s. This is

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a good one. There are quite a few fights on it.

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This is not the running order. This is just the

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order of me caring about them. Yay. If there's

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one below that I missed that you want to talk

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about, let me know. But Damien Kaniba versus

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Joey DeWitchco. Eight round heavies. You may

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remember DeWitchco. He fought Richard Torres

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and his mouthpiece kept falling out. Oh, he's

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the guy who made AJ lose to Andy Ruiz by knocking

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him out and sparring. Was it Dwejko? Yeah, he

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was claiming, like, this is the rumor. When AJ

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lost to Ruiz, it's, oh, he was concussed because

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Dwejko beat the fuck out of him in sparring.

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And then he got, like, a fight against, like,

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Sergey Kuzmin. He talked himself into fights

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with guys like Frank Sanchez because of the sparring

01:07:47.969 --> 01:07:53.389
rumor. Yeah, he got Richard Torres. He got Sanchez.

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He got Sergey Kuzmin and yeah, Torres. Out of

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the sparring rumor, it was really funny. And

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all with a boil and bite mouthpiece. Yeah. Fucking

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hilarious, dude. You can't pay like a dentist

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for a shitty gum one. Yeah, they're not that

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expensive. I've had them made before. They don't

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cost a lot. Even top quality ones only run you

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like $300 Canadian dollars, which is like $6

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US dollars. Like, come on, bro. Chris Colbert

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is back against Blas Caro. So that's a name we

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heard in a while. Yeah, it's been a minute. For

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good reason. That Ryo knockout was crazy. I actually

01:08:50.869 --> 01:08:58.010
had some fun. That was a fun one. Moving up,

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Gabe Rosado versus Vaughn Alexander. Alaska,

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that's a fight of all time. Yeah, it is certainly

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a fight. And Danny Garcia versus Daniel Gonzalez.

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The undersized welterweight is fighting at Super

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Welter. Yeah, I hope Danny wins. It'd be a good

01:09:26.569 --> 01:09:29.989
send -off for Danny. I don't think this is the

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last time we're going to see him. I think he's

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doing farewell. Oh, he's doing a retirement tour.

01:09:35.789 --> 01:09:40.600
Yeah, farewell to... XYZ city. First we're doing

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Brooklyn, eventually we're going to do Vegas,

01:09:44.319 --> 01:09:48.319
I don't know, just Miami, for example, and then

01:09:48.319 --> 01:09:51.640
finally, farewell to Philadelphia, farewell to

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boxing. He's had a great little career. Yeah,

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he has. I know the money was always at $147,

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and he had some classics there. My two cents,

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if like... Like, ignoring money, if money was

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not a question, staying at 140 was probably the

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best choice for him, considering he was, like,

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the man at 140 for several years. That fight

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with Lucas Matisse. He was the man. Like... I

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will say that if he should have fought Mikey

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Garcia, that would have been a fucking great

01:10:34.939 --> 01:10:39.760
fight, dude. Garcia versus Garcia. It sells itself

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right there. It would have been good for Mikey,

01:10:43.600 --> 01:10:47.300
too. I like Mikey a lot, but being the man at

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140 like that would have been crazy. Yeah. Just

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because, man, I know he only ever held the WBC

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at 140, but he was the man. I think he was the

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lineal. Yeah, when he obliterated Amir Khan.

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Like, decimating, like, Khan, Morales, and then

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being the shadow of Zabjud and Matisse in a four

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-fight stretch. I forgot about that. I was like,

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these are good. He was the man at 140. And, like,

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none of these guys except for Morales were super

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washed. Like, Khan had finally learned how to

01:11:38.640 --> 01:11:44.319
box and everything and then just died. The no

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-look hook. Yeah. Literally, the eyes closed

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just erasing. It was crazy. These were great

01:11:57.100 --> 01:12:00.819
wins. These were great wins. And, you know, he

01:12:00.819 --> 01:12:03.020
didn't have the success he wanted at 147, but

01:12:03.020 --> 01:12:06.750
also, like... When your three title fights are

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against Keith Thurman, Sean Porter, and Errol

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Spence. Even though he lost them, that's still

01:12:15.569 --> 01:12:20.130
a hell of a run. Didn't get stopped until it

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was way too far up in weight against Lara. He

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didn't really get stopped to quit. He got dropped

01:12:28.729 --> 01:12:32.359
pretty bad. Retired. I think it was a mental

01:12:32.359 --> 01:12:36.199
break more than it was a physical one. He tried

01:12:36.199 --> 01:12:39.199
everything he could against Lara and Lara just

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dropped him pretty bad. Yeah, it checks out.

01:12:45.300 --> 01:12:50.279
The knockdown was pretty ugly. I will say that

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I'm going to ask a question. Do you guys think

01:12:53.779 --> 01:12:56.520
he becomes a wallpaper? Like a first ballot?

01:12:59.170 --> 01:13:01.569
He's one of those borderline guys. The thing

01:13:01.569 --> 01:13:06.729
is that the bar for Hall of Fame is so low. I

01:13:06.729 --> 01:13:08.810
don't think he makes it first ballot, but I think

01:13:08.810 --> 01:13:12.050
he does make it. We need an episode where we

01:13:12.050 --> 01:13:14.529
just talk about the Hall of Fame. Because I have

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some fun opinions. Bro, we've had like three

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of them already. Well, Shanada and I have. We've

01:13:20.670 --> 01:13:22.829
been talking about the Hall of Fame a lot. I've

01:13:22.829 --> 01:13:27.090
had some fun opinions. Before we get too far

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into the weeds. Let me do something. I don't

01:13:30.699 --> 01:13:33.800
want to talk about Vernon Forrest. Let me do

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this. All right. So two things. Well, three things.

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01:14:18.569 --> 01:14:31.699
words. ProBuck's good. All right. Well, if that's

01:14:31.699 --> 01:14:33.479
it, then that's it for this edition of the Boxing

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B -Sides. See you on the other side of farewell

01:14:36.079 --> 01:14:36.520
to Brooklyn.