WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.399 This shit ain't nothing to me, man. This is Boxing 00:00:03.399 --> 00:00:06.679 Before Dark. Boxing. Boxing. Boxing. Back. Back. 00:00:06.700 --> 00:00:11.300 Back. Back. Back. Before. Before. Before. Before. 00:00:11.560 --> 00:00:15.019 Boxing. Boxing. Boxing. Boxing Before Dark. This 00:00:15.019 --> 00:00:35.299 is Boxing Before Dark. Yes. Boxing before dark. 00:00:35.539 --> 00:00:38.479 The hands are rubbed. The shoulders are popped. 00:00:39.340 --> 00:00:42.460 It's time to get this bitch rolling. I'm joined 00:00:42.460 --> 00:00:47.619 by Shanada. Is that what you go by? I don't know. 00:00:47.659 --> 00:00:50.439 Shanada, Shanada. Doesn't matter. Same shit. 00:00:50.840 --> 00:00:55.060 Yeah. So, we're here to talk fucking boxing. 00:00:55.679 --> 00:01:00.939 And boy, oh boy, is there plenty of it. By the 00:01:00.939 --> 00:01:06.560 time this comes out, it will have already happened. 00:01:07.799 --> 00:01:11.840 As we are recording, it has not happened yet. 00:01:13.359 --> 00:01:17.519 So we can't talk about it, even if we wanted 00:01:17.519 --> 00:01:22.640 to. I'm just going to say I called it. What I 00:01:22.640 --> 00:01:32.060 called, I'm not sure, but I called it. Thinking 00:01:32.060 --> 00:01:34.219 on how we've talked about the fight previously, 00:01:34.459 --> 00:01:39.900 I'm hoping that you didn't call it. Yeah, well, 00:01:40.019 --> 00:01:41.959 we don't know which fight I'm talking about yet. 00:01:42.579 --> 00:01:49.340 Yeah, it. There's only one it, I thought, for 00:01:49.340 --> 00:01:53.099 the weekend, but there's two. That's right. Well, 00:01:53.280 --> 00:01:55.859 maybe it's that Mbili isn't as good as everyone 00:01:55.859 --> 00:01:59.239 thinks. Who knows? Or Lester Martinez is actually... 00:01:59.879 --> 00:02:04.879 The fucking bee's knees. Roblox buff, baby. All 00:02:04.879 --> 00:02:07.200 right. Well, we can't talk about it because it 00:02:07.200 --> 00:02:11.360 hasn't happened yet. So sucks to suck for us. 00:02:13.000 --> 00:02:15.620 You know what is happening? Isaac Cruz versus 00:02:15.620 --> 00:02:19.560 Lamont Roach. Man, that's actually a really solid 00:02:19.560 --> 00:02:23.360 fight. I was surprised. I expect Lamont Roach 00:02:23.360 --> 00:02:26.439 is going to take this one pretty easily. Yeah. 00:02:27.819 --> 00:02:31.099 You never know, though. I mean, Isaac Cruz is 00:02:31.099 --> 00:02:33.580 never going to just lay down and die. The little 00:02:33.580 --> 00:02:37.659 pit bull will keep coming. He should change his 00:02:37.659 --> 00:02:42.439 name to Stafford. Staffordshire. Terrier? Yep. 00:02:43.620 --> 00:02:47.020 Terrier does fit him. Probably better than pit 00:02:47.020 --> 00:02:50.699 bull, but... I don't know. I think this will 00:02:50.699 --> 00:02:53.319 be fun. I don't know if it goes the whole distance, 00:02:53.379 --> 00:02:56.419 and I kind of agree. I lean towards Lamont Roach, 00:02:56.500 --> 00:03:02.120 but... I think it should be fun. If Lamont Roach 00:03:02.120 --> 00:03:06.500 was able to tame Tank the way he did, then I 00:03:06.500 --> 00:03:09.240 don't see Isaac Cruz offering him anything, any 00:03:09.240 --> 00:03:12.960 serious problems. What, tenacity? Is that it? 00:03:13.639 --> 00:03:17.360 Well, I mean, there will be more punches coming 00:03:17.360 --> 00:03:20.280 Roach's way. True. Tank's not a high output guy. 00:03:20.620 --> 00:03:28.259 True. So tenacity and output and Tank kind of 00:03:28.259 --> 00:03:32.560 quit. Like... Isaac's not gonna quit. He's not 00:03:32.560 --> 00:03:35.939 going to take a knee that's not a knee and ask 00:03:35.939 --> 00:03:39.439 his corner to wipe his eyes for him. I don't 00:03:39.439 --> 00:03:45.539 know. I think it'll be fun. You said the trigger 00:03:45.539 --> 00:03:48.460 word. The trigger phrase. A knee that's not a 00:03:48.460 --> 00:03:51.439 knee. Wipe my face. I'm getting fucking steamed 00:03:51.439 --> 00:03:56.419 again. You fucking lost that fight, buddy. You 00:03:56.419 --> 00:03:59.259 lost. 100 % Tank lost that fight. You lost that 00:03:59.259 --> 00:04:03.419 fight, dude. You got bailed out. The fuck out 00:04:03.419 --> 00:04:08.840 by video replay not working that they didn't 00:04:08.840 --> 00:04:11.400 fucking need. Like, you did not need replay on 00:04:11.400 --> 00:04:20.319 that. Knees are knees. That was not... Oh, did 00:04:20.319 --> 00:04:25.540 he maybe touch? No, he straight up did it. Yeah. 00:04:25.540 --> 00:04:28.699 Isaac Cruz, Lamont Roach. Yeah, you're right. 00:04:28.759 --> 00:04:31.699 You've painted this into a better light. I'm 00:04:31.699 --> 00:04:36.579 still favoring Lamont Roach. Too clever, I think. 00:04:40.240 --> 00:04:45.379 Yeah, I think Roach is a better boxer. Yeah. 00:04:45.680 --> 00:04:50.620 But... Good boxers have been beaten by output 00:04:50.620 --> 00:04:56.550 and tenacity before. Is that what happened to 00:04:56.550 --> 00:05:01.009 AJ when he fought Andy Ruiz? It kind of is, actually. 00:05:01.509 --> 00:05:04.310 That's a good segue. Excellent fucking transition 00:05:04.310 --> 00:05:09.829 point. Go me. AJ is out until at least mid -2026, 00:05:09.949 --> 00:05:14.149 is what they're saying. And you said it's not 00:05:14.149 --> 00:05:19.149 an injury, it's a choice. Yes. All of his contract 00:05:19.149 --> 00:05:23.379 situations have been falling through. and I think 00:05:23.379 --> 00:05:25.839 it's been messing with his mental, so he's kind 00:05:25.839 --> 00:05:31.399 of taking a break. Yeah, honestly, I think AJ 00:05:31.399 --> 00:05:36.980 needs to really, really consider just retiring. 00:05:38.379 --> 00:05:43.699 Become a Beats brand ambassador full -time. Is 00:05:43.699 --> 00:05:48.139 that what he... He always wears them, yeah. Oh, 00:05:48.160 --> 00:05:54.550 okay. Fair enough. Prep your things you like. 00:05:54.589 --> 00:05:58.750 If you like it. If you like them, then go ahead. 00:06:00.290 --> 00:06:05.790 Is that like Beats by Dre? Yes. They're expensive. 00:06:06.230 --> 00:06:10.990 They are. And they're not very good. I don't 00:06:10.990 --> 00:06:12.790 know if they're good. I just know they're expensive. 00:06:13.310 --> 00:06:17.009 I did a side -by -side. They're not very good. 00:06:17.610 --> 00:06:24.050 Fair enough. I got my electrical taped up pair 00:06:24.050 --> 00:06:26.750 that was a present because I'm too cheap to buy 00:06:26.750 --> 00:06:30.810 nice headphones. Nah. What are mine? They're 00:06:30.810 --> 00:06:33.670 Jubels, I think. I actually do really like them. 00:06:34.290 --> 00:06:37.610 Oh, if they work. They get the job done. And 00:06:37.610 --> 00:06:44.589 they sound good. Speaking of sounding good, the 00:06:44.589 --> 00:06:47.290 Oli Act, the changes to the Oli Act have been 00:06:47.290 --> 00:06:52.139 dropped. Dot, dot, dot. For now. For now. With 00:06:52.139 --> 00:06:57.519 Mr. Burns doing the little finger thing. Yeah. 00:06:57.519 --> 00:07:01.800 Excellent that he does. They're gone for now. 00:07:02.160 --> 00:07:06.800 Do you know why they've stopped? So they did 00:07:06.800 --> 00:07:11.819 get Congress or whatever to... Sorry, I need 00:07:11.819 --> 00:07:15.930 to start at the beginning. The fighters... league 00:07:15.930 --> 00:07:17.870 that's not what they're called the representatives 00:07:17.870 --> 00:07:21.189 of the fighters that last time we were talking 00:07:21.189 --> 00:07:23.850 about how they were never actually given the 00:07:23.850 --> 00:07:28.009 the sort of changes to read themselves and it 00:07:28.009 --> 00:07:33.269 had just been approved by the the group uh those 00:07:33.269 --> 00:07:36.310 guys actually did fight back uh i think it was 00:07:36.310 --> 00:07:40.670 is it ronda rousey's mom or holly holmes mom 00:07:40.670 --> 00:07:47.000 someone's mom who was also a judo person is on 00:07:47.000 --> 00:07:49.360 that board and really kind of spearheaded it 00:07:49.360 --> 00:07:54.139 being like there's been so much pushback from 00:07:54.139 --> 00:07:57.759 fighters from fans from everyone you can't say 00:07:57.759 --> 00:08:02.939 that we have approved this like it's so not approved 00:08:02.939 --> 00:08:08.620 so when the group pulled their approval congress 00:08:08.620 --> 00:08:13.040 did whatever they do they didn't They stopped 00:08:13.040 --> 00:08:17.000 the vote, I think. Like, they... I don't know 00:08:17.000 --> 00:08:19.259 how the government works very well, but they 00:08:19.259 --> 00:08:21.639 said that it needs to be revisited before they 00:08:21.639 --> 00:08:28.560 vote on it. So it sounds like it was in committee, 00:08:28.759 --> 00:08:33.759 and it was going to be voted out of committee 00:08:33.759 --> 00:08:39.850 to go to the floor, but because the... fighters 00:08:39.850 --> 00:08:45.990 association or whatever said no there's there 00:08:45.990 --> 00:08:48.690 it's it's gonna stay in committee while it's 00:08:48.690 --> 00:08:52.990 being reviewed by the fighters association right 00:08:52.990 --> 00:08:56.830 okay that's much more coherent than what i was 00:08:56.830 --> 00:08:59.250 saying that's just what it sounds like i'm not 00:08:59.250 --> 00:09:01.370 a hundred percent if that's what's happening 00:09:03.060 --> 00:09:05.539 That's my understanding, but like I said, I don't 00:09:05.539 --> 00:09:07.700 really understand how any government works, especially 00:09:07.700 --> 00:09:13.639 not the American one. But it's been paused, basically, 00:09:13.860 --> 00:09:18.460 and it's going for further review, which is good, 00:09:18.580 --> 00:09:22.659 because as far as I could find, they hadn't actually 00:09:22.659 --> 00:09:25.639 let any of the fighter representatives read the 00:09:25.639 --> 00:09:31.139 damn thing before they approved it. I think this 00:09:31.139 --> 00:09:36.659 is good. And hopefully it just gets fucking axed 00:09:36.659 --> 00:09:39.700 altogether. Or changed in a way that actually 00:09:39.700 --> 00:09:42.899 helps fighters. The minimum pays would not be 00:09:42.899 --> 00:09:45.620 a bad thing. No, that's not bad. If that's all 00:09:45.620 --> 00:09:50.320 it is. If it gets changed to we're adding minimum 00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:55.919 pays and some sort of retirement fund or emergency 00:09:55.919 --> 00:09:58.840 health fund or something, that would be great. 00:09:59.419 --> 00:10:04.840 But that's not what they're trying to do. I can 00:10:04.840 --> 00:10:09.940 only hope that this causes the pendulum of the 00:10:09.940 --> 00:10:14.480 OLLIAC to swing back and start to target MMA 00:10:14.480 --> 00:10:18.039 fighters as well. And it just completely fucks 00:10:18.039 --> 00:10:21.960 the UFC up. That would be amazing. Oh, God. I 00:10:21.960 --> 00:10:25.980 just got a hate boner thinking about that. If 00:10:25.980 --> 00:10:28.539 the changes actually just become, oh, we're going 00:10:28.539 --> 00:10:31.620 to make this combat sports and not just boxing 00:10:31.620 --> 00:10:35.580 and UFC has to have real, like, promoters and 00:10:35.580 --> 00:10:38.059 managers that are separate people, that would 00:10:38.059 --> 00:10:44.360 be fucking amazing. Yeah, I think UFC might become 00:10:44.360 --> 00:10:46.720 a little bit more likable as an organization 00:10:46.720 --> 00:10:50.759 if they were to work that way. Well, and people 00:10:50.759 --> 00:10:54.509 would get fucked less. Yeah. Maybe. It's not 00:10:54.509 --> 00:10:56.769 like people don't get fucked over in boxing either, 00:10:56.870 --> 00:11:01.809 though, but less. It doesn't seem to happen as 00:11:01.809 --> 00:11:05.750 badly. Unless you sign with Don King, which is 00:11:05.750 --> 00:11:07.649 kind of your own fault at this point. Yeah, if 00:11:07.649 --> 00:11:10.049 you're signing with Don King in the year of our 00:11:10.049 --> 00:11:16.169 Lord 2025, you need some help. And Don King is 00:11:16.169 --> 00:11:20.899 not going to give you any. No. Let me skip this 00:11:20.899 --> 00:11:25.299 Lance Pugmire thing to go to Dana White. It's 00:11:25.299 --> 00:11:28.340 all connected anyways. Alright, cool. So Dana 00:11:28.340 --> 00:11:34.539 White has been having a pretty rough week with 00:11:34.539 --> 00:11:41.600 the media. And it is awesome. Glorious. Absolutely 00:11:41.600 --> 00:11:47.230 fucking amazing. So So far, my favorite interview, 00:11:47.450 --> 00:11:50.330 and she will never get an interview again, has 00:11:50.330 --> 00:11:52.789 been Amber Dixon. And I spelled her name wrong 00:11:52.789 --> 00:11:59.970 here. It's with an X. She just called Dana White 00:11:59.970 --> 00:12:03.929 out on all his bullshit. It was great. I haven't 00:12:03.929 --> 00:12:08.529 been able to find her full interview on its own, 00:12:08.690 --> 00:12:12.690 but the Pro Box guys, boxing scene, was talking 00:12:12.690 --> 00:12:16.950 about it on their YouTube channel. And the parts 00:12:16.950 --> 00:12:19.330 they showed, it was great. She called them out 00:12:19.330 --> 00:12:21.909 on everything, asked them about how important 00:12:21.909 --> 00:12:26.429 it is that the OLLI Act get changed so that TKO 00:12:26.429 --> 00:12:28.950 can get into boxing. And Dana just completely 00:12:28.950 --> 00:12:31.549 deflected that to look how much money we made 00:12:31.549 --> 00:12:35.190 with UFC, which is completely unrelated to the 00:12:35.190 --> 00:12:39.190 fucking question. And then she was talking about 00:12:39.190 --> 00:12:43.419 fighter pays. asked him why UFC guys get paid 00:12:43.419 --> 00:12:47.299 so much less, and he's like, well, do they? Do 00:12:47.299 --> 00:12:50.080 they get paid less? And she's like, I don't know. 00:12:50.100 --> 00:12:52.500 You guys don't report the pay, and neither does 00:12:52.500 --> 00:12:56.240 boxing in Nevada anymore. And he's like, well, 00:12:56.279 --> 00:12:58.500 you can talk to the fighters. You can ask them. 00:12:58.559 --> 00:13:00.779 I haven't told them they can't talk about it. 00:13:01.299 --> 00:13:04.820 But he kind of has. Anybody in the UFC who talks 00:13:04.820 --> 00:13:07.899 about pay and stuff, they just get blackballed. 00:13:07.899 --> 00:13:11.809 Yeah, they absolutely do. So, yeah, legally they 00:13:11.809 --> 00:13:13.870 can talk about it, but they know it's going to 00:13:13.870 --> 00:13:17.590 screw their career. And he was trying to say 00:13:17.590 --> 00:13:20.169 that, well, we have fighters that make the crazy 00:13:20.169 --> 00:13:23.149 amounts of money, like Conor McGregor. And Amber 00:13:23.149 --> 00:13:26.169 Dixon's like, yeah, in a boxing match. Yeah, 00:13:26.250 --> 00:13:30.740 against Floyd in a boxing match. Yeah. So, great 00:13:30.740 --> 00:13:35.019 interview. I actually, I knew of Amber Dixon, 00:13:35.120 --> 00:13:39.299 but I hadn't seen any real clips that made me 00:13:39.299 --> 00:13:42.279 particularly like her more than other reporters. 00:13:42.379 --> 00:13:45.899 But I am now a fan because she made Dana White 00:13:45.899 --> 00:13:49.259 look like an idiot and she didn't back down like 00:13:49.259 --> 00:13:52.820 some other people do. I am now an Amber Dixon 00:13:52.820 --> 00:13:58.139 fan. I'm going to play the bit here. I've heard 00:13:58.139 --> 00:14:01.720 a hundred million. Probably. No one in the UFC 00:14:01.720 --> 00:14:04.559 has ever made that as a base purse. Conor McGregor? 00:14:04.879 --> 00:14:07.720 $100 million, but that was against Floyd in a 00:14:07.720 --> 00:14:10.519 boxing match. That's right. What about Crawford? 00:14:11.159 --> 00:14:16.799 Oh, man. So she kind of sets him up, too. She 00:14:16.799 --> 00:14:20.039 says, oh, so Conor McGregor made $100 million. 00:14:20.120 --> 00:14:22.659 He's like, yep, that's right. Conor McGregor 00:14:22.659 --> 00:14:25.799 did. And then she said, in a boxing match. Okay, 00:14:25.919 --> 00:14:29.480 got it. And then he kind of turns a little red. 00:14:30.419 --> 00:14:34.840 Yeah, you tomato face piece of shit. Yeah. Take 00:14:34.840 --> 00:14:39.559 that. So that was the first one I saw. But he's 00:14:39.559 --> 00:14:42.360 been just fucking getting it all week. And they've 00:14:42.360 --> 00:14:44.659 started banning people from the press conferences 00:14:44.659 --> 00:14:49.419 already. So boxing scene, Lance Pugmire banned 00:14:49.419 --> 00:14:53.309 from the press conference. He was given his press 00:14:53.309 --> 00:14:56.009 passes and everything, and, like, the day before, 00:14:56.129 --> 00:14:58.570 after he had already flown out, they pulled it. 00:15:01.309 --> 00:15:06.429 And the Canelo Crawford press conference, a couple 00:15:06.429 --> 00:15:09.730 people stood up and asked Dana some very, very 00:15:09.730 --> 00:15:16.289 pointed questions, and he was not happy. I'm 00:15:16.289 --> 00:15:18.929 loving it. I'm loving that the boxing media isn't 00:15:18.929 --> 00:15:22.429 just, like, letting everything slide. and kissing 00:15:22.429 --> 00:15:26.929 his ass yeah i mean there are a few people doing 00:15:26.929 --> 00:15:31.269 that and it's fucking cringe as hell but yeah 00:15:31.269 --> 00:15:35.029 like max kellerman i did see his bit at the end 00:15:35.029 --> 00:15:38.870 where he was just like slurping on dana and turkey 00:15:38.870 --> 00:15:46.629 oh jesus man what are what are you doing it was 00:15:46.629 --> 00:15:49.169 fucking bad used to be a voice for the sport 00:15:50.029 --> 00:15:55.029 And now you're not. I never liked Max Kellerman, 00:15:55.129 --> 00:15:58.210 and now I actively dislike him. Like, it's getting 00:15:58.210 --> 00:16:04.009 close to I fucking hate him. He's so not... He 00:16:04.009 --> 00:16:07.470 has no integrity in his media stuff. He just 00:16:07.470 --> 00:16:22.350 kisses whoever's ass he's told to. Unlike LVX 00:16:22.350 --> 00:16:28.049 Media. Yeah, we're called Lux because we are 00:16:28.049 --> 00:16:31.350 the light in this dark fucking abyss that is 00:16:31.350 --> 00:16:36.850 boxing media landscape. Very poetic. I'm really 00:16:36.850 --> 00:16:47.289 good at this. I can tell. Alright, so you got 00:16:47.289 --> 00:16:53.710 on here Provox. Oh, this was for me for the recaps. 00:16:53.710 --> 00:16:56.169 Sorry, we don't need to talk about this. Yeah, 00:16:56.190 --> 00:16:59.750 I kind of guess. That was a whole week ago and 00:16:59.750 --> 00:17:07.210 I would forget. Well, if that's the case, let's 00:17:07.210 --> 00:17:15.869 get into the recaps. A few weeks behind. As is 00:17:15.869 --> 00:17:20.059 our usual, our reviews are always timely. Or 00:17:20.059 --> 00:17:23.140 our previews are always timely. Me mixing up 00:17:23.140 --> 00:17:26.819 reviews and previews, the words, is always timely. 00:17:27.440 --> 00:17:35.200 Because it always happens. Right. So, we're going 00:17:35.200 --> 00:17:37.539 to reach back to Eye of the Tiger on September 00:17:37.539 --> 00:17:42.680 4th. Did you catch this? I did watch this, yes. 00:17:43.039 --> 00:17:51.940 Yeah. Oslis. It's two S's. On the Instagram, 00:17:52.720 --> 00:17:58.339 you were... What did you use to... What did you 00:17:58.339 --> 00:18:03.180 change his name to? Osley... I glaze his ass. 00:18:03.460 --> 00:18:11.299 I glaze his ass. Yeah. Oh, that's fun. I was 00:18:11.299 --> 00:18:13.640 thinking of who is it in the Discord that fucking 00:18:13.640 --> 00:18:18.359 loves Osleys. Oh, Big Bud, I think. Yeah, yeah. 00:18:19.039 --> 00:18:22.680 That should be Big Bud's tagline. I'll glaze 00:18:22.680 --> 00:18:28.660 his ass. He looked pretty damn good. He did look 00:18:28.660 --> 00:18:31.240 good, actually. We have to do a little glazing. 00:18:31.359 --> 00:18:35.079 Yeah, he was actually really solid. He was pretty 00:18:35.079 --> 00:18:37.539 much in control from the very beginning, and 00:18:37.539 --> 00:18:45.099 it looked like Shishkin kind of quiet quit in 00:18:45.099 --> 00:18:54.259 round five. Four or five? But, like, Iglesias 00:18:54.259 --> 00:18:57.640 got him out of there. He might have switched 00:18:57.640 --> 00:19:02.259 into survival mode, but it didn't work. Yep. 00:19:05.079 --> 00:19:09.839 Somebody was saying that Shishkin gave William 00:19:09.839 --> 00:19:13.160 Skull a really hard fight, and so therefore one 00:19:13.160 --> 00:19:16.859 should be careful about... Betting the house 00:19:16.859 --> 00:19:22.960 on Iglesias? That was funny. In hindsight. That 00:19:22.960 --> 00:19:27.720 was not good advice. I have seen a couple people 00:19:27.720 --> 00:19:31.359 saying because Shishkin had such a good fight 00:19:31.359 --> 00:19:34.900 with Skull and Iglesias knocked him out that 00:19:34.900 --> 00:19:39.259 Iglesias should fight Canelo. They're doing the 00:19:39.259 --> 00:19:42.960 triangle theory of boxing. If Iglesias should 00:19:42.960 --> 00:19:45.700 fight anybody, it should be Skull. Right now. 00:19:46.319 --> 00:19:49.299 No. To complete the triangle. Yeah, but nobody 00:19:49.299 --> 00:19:53.759 wants to see that. No, not at all. It's just 00:19:53.759 --> 00:19:57.599 triangle theory playing it out to its illogical 00:19:57.599 --> 00:20:03.359 conclusions. Yeah, I... I don't think Canelo's 00:20:03.359 --> 00:20:06.759 gonna fight him. But I also don't know if Iglesias 00:20:06.759 --> 00:20:09.279 is ready for Canelo anyways. I don't think so 00:20:09.279 --> 00:20:14.619 either. Canelo's... He's a mystery right now. 00:20:14.680 --> 00:20:18.640 He's been fighting such bad competition. It's 00:20:18.640 --> 00:20:29.099 hard to tell if he's washed or not. Moving to... 00:20:29.099 --> 00:20:34.180 Speaking of washed. Yeah, Wasserman at the Three 00:20:34.180 --> 00:20:37.460 Arena in Dublin, Ireland. Mickey Conlin gets 00:20:37.460 --> 00:20:44.569 the stoppage in four. Jack Bateson Conlon needs 00:20:44.569 --> 00:20:49.109 to not box anymore yeah he should promote with 00:20:49.109 --> 00:20:55.309 his brother and his dad make it a family affair 00:20:55.309 --> 00:21:02.069 more of a family affair yeah I don't think we 00:21:02.069 --> 00:21:06.009 can take anything away from this fight like Mickey 00:21:06.009 --> 00:21:11.440 Conlon still has a glass jaw I for the If you're 00:21:11.440 --> 00:21:13.619 an audio -only, which that's what this is, this 00:21:13.619 --> 00:21:16.460 audio -only, I did a big shrug with, like, a 00:21:16.460 --> 00:21:22.059 snarled lip. Like, meh. As far as, like, what 00:21:22.059 --> 00:21:26.640 can we take away from this? Yeah. Mickey Conlin 00:21:26.640 --> 00:21:28.799 still knows how to box, but if he ever gets hit, 00:21:28.980 --> 00:21:33.299 it's game over. Yeah, if he decides to venture 00:21:33.299 --> 00:21:38.990 any closer to page one... On BoxRec, then he's 00:21:38.990 --> 00:21:44.509 going to run into some problems. Yeah. Which 00:21:44.509 --> 00:21:47.289 is too bad. I wanted Mickey Conlon to be good. 00:21:47.450 --> 00:21:54.029 I just liked his persona, but... Who was it really 00:21:54.029 --> 00:21:56.549 cracked him? It was Lee Wood, wasn't it? I think 00:21:56.549 --> 00:22:08.299 so. Yeah. Moving to ProBox. At the Care First 00:22:08.299 --> 00:22:14.579 Arena in Washington, D .C. Yeah, okay. This is 00:22:14.579 --> 00:22:17.480 the one. There was two really weird stoppages. 00:22:19.279 --> 00:22:23.819 Fuck, and I didn't write down... This is why 00:22:23.819 --> 00:22:26.220 I tried to take notes and I fucked it up. I know 00:22:26.220 --> 00:22:29.240 the Sagawa fight was a really weird stoppage 00:22:29.240 --> 00:22:32.980 where they stopped it in between... The ref stopped 00:22:32.980 --> 00:22:36.990 it, like, in between rounds, almost. Almost. 00:22:38.210 --> 00:22:42.809 Well, I mean, kind of technically, the belt had 00:22:42.809 --> 00:22:47.230 gone. He had been waving it off already. He was 00:22:47.230 --> 00:22:52.309 actively stepping in to break the fight. Yeah. 00:22:53.390 --> 00:22:56.609 It was just a bit of a weird stoppage. I don't 00:22:56.609 --> 00:22:59.170 think it was a bad stoppage. Sagawa was just 00:22:59.170 --> 00:23:02.609 beating the pants off of that guy. Absolutely. 00:23:03.950 --> 00:23:07.950 I love Sagawa. I will glaze him all fucking day. 00:23:09.670 --> 00:23:12.509 I was telling the guys in the Discord that he 00:23:12.509 --> 00:23:14.789 was fun. And they're like, he's some fucking 00:23:14.789 --> 00:23:20.670 unknown guy from Uganda? Yeah. And I was like, 00:23:20.750 --> 00:23:23.369 it doesn't matter. He's fucking entertaining. 00:23:24.130 --> 00:23:28.109 And I think I made a couple Sagawa fans out of 00:23:28.109 --> 00:23:30.869 them by the end of that fight. Or he made a couple 00:23:30.869 --> 00:23:34.109 Sagawa fans by the end of that fight. I'm going 00:23:34.109 --> 00:23:37.630 to say you did it. It was all me. You primed 00:23:37.630 --> 00:23:42.569 him. I am his best cheerleader. It was a really 00:23:42.569 --> 00:23:47.430 fun fight. It was. He's always high action. Good 00:23:47.430 --> 00:23:51.619 output. great engine and he's everything i like 00:23:51.619 --> 00:23:55.420 he gets hit so it's exciting i think he's gonna 00:23:55.420 --> 00:23:59.900 gonna go on the pro box rebuild circuit for a 00:23:59.900 --> 00:24:02.460 little bit i hope so because he's like you said 00:24:02.460 --> 00:24:05.079 he's really fun and he seems like he seems like 00:24:05.079 --> 00:24:08.420 a really good dude so seems like a it would be 00:24:08.420 --> 00:24:11.420 deserving for him to get get his career rehabbed 00:24:11.420 --> 00:24:14.500 and then get pushed up to get another title shot 00:24:15.819 --> 00:24:19.519 Yeah, he is 34, so they can't rehab him for too 00:24:19.519 --> 00:24:28.619 long. I forgot about that. But I think he would 00:24:28.619 --> 00:24:33.559 do fine in a world title fight right now. I don't 00:24:33.559 --> 00:24:38.500 know if he beats. I mean, 126 isn't that deep 00:24:38.500 --> 00:24:46.549 right now. No, but the top is really heavy. Yeah. 00:24:46.549 --> 00:24:49.569 I think he'd do fine. I don't know if he could 00:24:49.569 --> 00:24:51.990 get a belt, but I don't think he would be out 00:24:51.990 --> 00:24:57.789 of place. If you know what I mean. Yeah. So, 00:24:57.789 --> 00:25:03.049 Angelo Leo. Leo Sagawa would be a good fight. 00:25:03.269 --> 00:25:09.289 Yes. Stephen Fulton. He's moving up. But I think 00:25:09.289 --> 00:25:12.230 he pieces up Sagawa, unfortunately. Yeah. He 00:25:12.230 --> 00:25:20.299 probably just outboxes him. And Nick Ball? Ball 00:25:20.299 --> 00:25:23.619 versus Sagawa would be a fucking fireworks fight. 00:25:25.660 --> 00:25:27.720 Yeah, someone who's going to stand and trade 00:25:27.720 --> 00:25:31.740 with Nick Ball. That would make it worth his 00:25:31.740 --> 00:25:35.220 while, I think. And honestly, I don't know who 00:25:35.220 --> 00:25:38.779 wins that one. I would consider that a pretty 00:25:38.779 --> 00:25:42.859 50 -50 fight. Wow. That is some faith in Sagawa. 00:25:43.470 --> 00:25:45.990 You think not? I just don't have as much faith 00:25:45.990 --> 00:25:49.349 in Nick Ball as everyone else seems to. I don't 00:25:49.349 --> 00:25:53.789 really either. Where's Drip? We need somebody 00:25:53.789 --> 00:25:57.970 to sing Nick Ball's praises. We need a ball glazer. 00:26:01.829 --> 00:26:06.930 That works on multiple levels. Excellent. And 00:26:06.930 --> 00:26:14.740 Rafaela Spinoza. then no no no that's bad again 00:26:14.740 --> 00:26:19.359 i i think leo would be a good one yeah i i just 00:26:19.359 --> 00:26:23.259 think sagawa deserves his shot i think he's he's 00:26:23.259 --> 00:26:26.099 put in the work who did he get his shot against 00:26:26.099 --> 00:26:31.160 before carrington and i think he beat bruce carrington 00:26:31.160 --> 00:26:34.079 yeah because i was gonna i was gonna say i remember 00:26:34.079 --> 00:26:38.640 it being a really like scrappy fight And if it's 00:26:38.640 --> 00:26:42.700 Bruce Carrington, I would like for him to lose. 00:26:44.039 --> 00:26:48.019 Glenn Feldman had it a draw. And the other two 00:26:48.019 --> 00:26:53.960 had it 97 -93 for Shushu. But I just don't think 00:26:53.960 --> 00:27:00.420 it was that far. I think Sagawa just... How do 00:27:00.420 --> 00:27:03.359 I put it? It wasn't a robbery. I think it's just 00:27:03.359 --> 00:27:10.009 the judges didn't like his style. But it's also 00:27:10.009 --> 00:27:15.450 Bruce Carrington, New York fighter in New York. 00:27:16.190 --> 00:27:20.210 Yeah. So I think it was a little bit of home 00:27:20.210 --> 00:27:23.650 cooking, but not an outright robbery. Yeah. If 00:27:23.650 --> 00:27:26.130 that makes sense. Yeah, that makes sense. But 00:27:26.130 --> 00:27:28.710 I think Sagawa looked good in that fight too. 00:27:28.829 --> 00:27:31.589 I don't think that should really bar him from 00:27:31.589 --> 00:27:34.750 another chance. Like he didn't look completely 00:27:34.750 --> 00:27:40.930 outclassed. And that was not for any real titles. 00:27:40.990 --> 00:27:48.710 It was just for regional stuff. Yeah. I don't 00:27:48.710 --> 00:27:51.190 know. I'm a fan. Everybody should watch him. 00:27:51.250 --> 00:27:57.430 Especially when he's free on Probox. But then 00:27:57.430 --> 00:28:00.509 the main event also had a weird stoppage, didn't 00:28:00.509 --> 00:28:03.470 it? There was two. Or was it the one before this? 00:28:03.509 --> 00:28:05.789 Was it Valenzuela? It was not the main event. 00:28:06.799 --> 00:28:09.380 No, because that went to decision. Okay, the 00:28:09.380 --> 00:28:15.940 Torres -Cardoso stoppage was also weird. Same 00:28:15.940 --> 00:28:19.380 sort of thing. It was, like, right at the bell 00:28:19.380 --> 00:28:25.759 that they waved it off. And, like, not, again, 00:28:25.839 --> 00:28:29.660 not a bad stoppage, just a weird stoppage. The 00:28:29.660 --> 00:28:33.180 timing on both of them was pretty strange. Like, 00:28:33.200 --> 00:28:39.519 they... My memory's so shit. There was a knockdown 00:28:39.519 --> 00:28:42.000 at the end of the round, and the guy stood up 00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:44.980 and made the count, and the bell went, and then 00:28:44.980 --> 00:28:48.319 the ref waved it off. Instead of giving him his 00:28:48.319 --> 00:28:51.819 one minute in the corner. Yeah, that's right. 00:28:53.319 --> 00:28:57.579 Now, again, it wasn't a terrible stoppage, but, 00:28:57.660 --> 00:29:00.960 like, nine times out of ten, they give the guy 00:29:00.960 --> 00:29:03.480 his minute, let him come out, and then stop it 00:29:03.480 --> 00:29:07.670 next time he gets knocked down. Yeah. Give them 00:29:07.670 --> 00:29:11.069 the minute. Yeah, they just... And again, I'm 00:29:11.069 --> 00:29:13.690 not even particularly mad about the stoppage. 00:29:13.750 --> 00:29:15.710 It's just weird. And it's weird that they had 00:29:15.710 --> 00:29:19.910 two at the bell like that in the same card. Back 00:29:19.910 --> 00:29:25.109 to back. They are in the DC swamp. All sorts 00:29:25.109 --> 00:29:29.210 of corruption and fuckery going on. I mean, it 00:29:29.210 --> 00:29:31.809 worked for me because I had Torres in the pick 00:29:31.809 --> 00:29:40.059 league. Yeah. Pro box is always good. I don't 00:29:40.059 --> 00:29:43.119 think we've really talked about any super weird 00:29:43.119 --> 00:29:47.039 decisions and stuff on pro box. No. But these 00:29:47.039 --> 00:29:49.460 two stoppages were just weird. Again, not even 00:29:49.460 --> 00:29:56.680 bad, just weird. Yeah, yeah. I don't really have 00:29:56.680 --> 00:29:59.079 a whole lot to add to it. You described them 00:29:59.079 --> 00:30:05.639 both pretty perfectly. Like the Sagawa one. It 00:30:05.639 --> 00:30:09.980 was an almost similar situation, just Sansa knocked 00:30:09.980 --> 00:30:12.519 down. So I guess that would make it a little 00:30:12.519 --> 00:30:21.859 stranger without the knockdown beforehand. Yeah, 00:30:21.880 --> 00:30:24.839 I don't know. Again, they're not bad. I think 00:30:24.839 --> 00:30:26.660 both those guys were getting stopped anyways, 00:30:26.819 --> 00:30:29.539 if they let him come back out. But it's just 00:30:29.539 --> 00:30:32.660 weird that they were both at the bell. Yeah. 00:30:33.609 --> 00:30:37.970 They did talk, the commentators did talk about 00:30:37.970 --> 00:30:42.549 how Acosta's corner should have stopped it the 00:30:42.549 --> 00:30:45.769 round before and stuff. And how the ref was kind 00:30:45.769 --> 00:30:49.349 of trying to get them to throw in the towel. 00:30:50.190 --> 00:30:53.170 So maybe that's why he stopped it, because he 00:30:53.170 --> 00:30:55.250 knew the corner wouldn't. And we've talked about 00:30:55.250 --> 00:30:58.289 that before, where the fighters have to really 00:30:58.289 --> 00:31:02.299 trust their corner to save them. So maybe the 00:31:02.299 --> 00:31:06.779 ref decided that the corner wasn't, yeah, they 00:31:06.779 --> 00:31:09.180 weren't doing their job properly and he stopped 00:31:09.180 --> 00:31:11.640 it for them, even though it was a little weird 00:31:11.640 --> 00:31:15.400 for the ref to stop it. And I'm okay with that. 00:31:15.460 --> 00:31:24.880 It's just a weird talking point, I guess. Well, 00:31:25.099 --> 00:31:28.819 in the main event, little, I don't know if this 00:31:28.819 --> 00:31:32.559 is high strangeness. But the hometown guy loses 00:31:32.559 --> 00:31:39.500 on points. 95 to 94. So with a knockdown, somebody 00:31:39.500 --> 00:31:42.759 scored it a fucking draw. I'm not sure what you 00:31:42.759 --> 00:31:49.680 were watching, Paul Wallace. But that's a pretty 00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:54.619 rough scorecard to turn in. Yeah, it was not 00:31:54.619 --> 00:31:58.180 that close. No, not even a little. 96 to 93. 00:31:59.049 --> 00:32:04.049 6 -4 with a KD. Even that feels a little bit 00:32:04.049 --> 00:32:11.049 closer than it really was. But... But the right 00:32:11.049 --> 00:32:21.910 guy won in the end, I guess. The takeaway is 00:32:21.910 --> 00:32:24.970 Pro Box is still good. That was a good card. 00:32:25.109 --> 00:32:28.799 They had a couple less good cards lately. They're 00:32:28.799 --> 00:32:38.279 back on the train. Pro box, good. Let's move 00:32:38.279 --> 00:32:44.819 to match room at the Rainton Meadows Arena. Pat 00:32:44.819 --> 00:32:50.740 McCormick retires. Miguel Parra. Troy Williamson 00:32:50.740 --> 00:32:55.680 stops. Mark Dickinson in the ninth. Oh, the retirement 00:32:55.680 --> 00:32:59.009 was after the ninth, so. Or after the 8th, excuse 00:32:59.009 --> 00:33:06.650 me. And Sandy Ryan gets a UD. Our boy Cameron 00:33:06.650 --> 00:33:12.910 Wong gets a scoring referee points decision. 00:33:14.369 --> 00:33:19.390 I hate that. If you're trying to score in referee, 00:33:19.690 --> 00:33:21.710 you're doing a shit job of both things usually. 00:33:22.410 --> 00:33:28.390 Or at least one of those things. It can't be 00:33:28.390 --> 00:33:32.309 that expensive to pay one judge. To have a single 00:33:32.309 --> 00:33:36.309 judge instead of a scoring referee. Well, it's 00:33:36.309 --> 00:33:44.029 the same number of scorecards. Yeah, it is. Like, 00:33:44.029 --> 00:33:48.710 get some judge practicing. Like a low level. 00:33:49.609 --> 00:33:58.759 Yeah. And Leo Atang gets a stoppage in one. Congratulations. 00:33:58.759 --> 00:34:02.480 You get some Leo points. You get to keep the 00:34:02.480 --> 00:34:06.500 name. You get to keep your name. I have to admit, 00:34:06.579 --> 00:34:10.159 I didn't watch this card at all. It's fine. You 00:34:10.159 --> 00:34:14.019 didn't miss a whole lot. Brit Slop, I assume. 00:34:14.239 --> 00:34:20.079 Yes. This was a Brit Slop. A little disappointed 00:34:20.079 --> 00:34:25.000 that I assume Para is Mexican. I think so. The 00:34:25.000 --> 00:34:30.880 Mexican buff didn't work. Or wait, where's McCormick 00:34:30.880 --> 00:34:35.139 from? Yeah, he's... The Mexican buff didn't work. 00:34:35.980 --> 00:34:42.139 Yeah, against a very British person. Very British. 00:34:44.619 --> 00:34:48.519 Let's see. I finally figured out what venue this 00:34:48.519 --> 00:34:53.920 was at. This was at El Centro de Usos Múltiples. 00:34:55.440 --> 00:35:01.599 The cum center? The cum center. Oh man, being 00:35:01.599 --> 00:35:07.539 13 is fun. But this was in Los Mochis. They were 00:35:07.539 --> 00:35:14.059 very pointedly reminding us. Not related to boxing, 00:35:14.260 --> 00:35:19.760 but what is Mochis in Spanish? It's not ice cream. 00:35:21.769 --> 00:35:27.409 It's not the rice dessert? No, it's not. I'm 00:35:27.409 --> 00:35:29.409 not sure what it is. I think it's the name of 00:35:29.409 --> 00:35:36.590 a landmark. Does it look like a mochi? I don't 00:35:36.590 --> 00:35:45.010 know. Anyway. Eduardo Nunez versus Christopher 00:35:45.010 --> 00:35:50.449 Diaz. Nunez gets the UD in a very tough fight. 00:35:53.130 --> 00:35:55.750 Yeah, this was a fun fight, actually. Yeah, it 00:35:55.750 --> 00:36:01.389 was a lot of fun. Very entertaining. The scorecards 00:36:01.389 --> 00:36:05.550 were crazy wide, I thought. Of course they were. 00:36:06.670 --> 00:36:11.949 I mean, I guess it was a pretty one -sided fight, 00:36:12.130 --> 00:36:21.409 but 117 -109 seems quite wide. 117 -109, he got 00:36:21.409 --> 00:36:25.400 knocked down twice. So in the same round. So 00:36:25.400 --> 00:36:32.519 that's a 10 -7. So it would be 117 -111. 9 -3 00:36:32.519 --> 00:36:36.760 though. Either way. Yeah, 9 -3 is a little wide. 00:36:37.440 --> 00:36:45.380 Seemed wide to me. It was a good fight. It was 00:36:45.380 --> 00:36:49.559 fun. Who's the other one you have here? I have 00:36:49.559 --> 00:36:51.949 to look at his picture. Yeah, I need to look 00:36:51.949 --> 00:36:53.929 at it too, because I'm not remembering who these 00:36:53.929 --> 00:37:06.150 guys are. Oh, this was the draw. Yes. This was 00:37:06.150 --> 00:37:08.230 a really fun fight, actually. This was better 00:37:08.230 --> 00:37:12.550 than the main event. Pedro Guevara split draw 00:37:12.550 --> 00:37:20.070 with Alexis Molina. I would watch those guys 00:37:20.070 --> 00:37:24.360 again. They should run it back. Would be a good 00:37:24.360 --> 00:37:32.400 one. Moving to top rank at the Binational Dome 00:37:32.400 --> 00:37:39.360 in Nogales. Homecoming fight for Oscar Valdez. 00:37:40.679 --> 00:37:47.599 He got an easy win. Clean, clear. It was what 00:37:47.599 --> 00:37:53.190 you'd expect from a homecoming fight. Yeah, Oscar 00:37:53.190 --> 00:37:56.289 looked good, but probably pretty easy to look 00:37:56.289 --> 00:37:59.489 good against someone that far below you. Yeah, 00:37:59.510 --> 00:38:04.690 not so good of opposition. It's, yeah, not that 00:38:04.690 --> 00:38:10.210 great. Yeah. And to go to a decision with him, 00:38:10.250 --> 00:38:12.449 too, that's what I thought was weird. It's like, 00:38:12.489 --> 00:38:15.670 you have the guy clearly outboxed. You have him 00:38:15.670 --> 00:38:21.159 figured out, so what's your problem? Yeah. I 00:38:21.159 --> 00:38:23.119 mean, Oscar's getting kind of old, isn't he? 00:38:23.900 --> 00:38:33.440 Yeah, he's in his 30s, I think. 34. Man. Boxing 00:38:33.440 --> 00:38:38.300 ancient. I mean, it kind of is, though. Yeah, 00:38:38.360 --> 00:38:43.280 it really is. But he could keep doing stuff like 00:38:43.280 --> 00:38:49.900 this, like at this level. I think he could. step 00:38:49.900 --> 00:38:53.780 up the level a bit still like a little bit i 00:38:53.780 --> 00:38:58.000 don't think he yeah i don't know about world 00:38:58.000 --> 00:39:01.579 titles or anything but like he doesn't need to 00:39:01.579 --> 00:39:05.059 be fighting whatever this guy does for a day 00:39:05.059 --> 00:39:21.079 job uh who's at his Oh, right. Nunez. They had 00:39:21.079 --> 00:39:28.320 Navarrete. They had him at the Nunez fight. And 00:39:28.320 --> 00:39:35.179 they did a little face -off. Oh, right. Yep. 00:39:39.320 --> 00:39:49.239 Nav's such a weird cat. Quite. I got... In trouble, 00:39:49.320 --> 00:39:51.820 not in trouble, but people were pushing back 00:39:51.820 --> 00:39:54.500 in the Discord when I said he dresses so slutty. 00:39:54.619 --> 00:39:59.059 Oh, I saw that. Nav dresses pretty slutty. He 00:39:59.059 --> 00:40:04.619 does. I don't know what Isaac was looking at, 00:40:04.739 --> 00:40:12.219 but Nav is looking like he's on the prowl constantly. 00:40:13.800 --> 00:40:16.880 Yeah, he has a button -up shirt with only, like, 00:40:16.900 --> 00:40:22.460 the bottom two buttons. The deep, deep V. Yeah. 00:40:22.980 --> 00:40:27.900 With the gold chains and the cowboy hats. Come 00:40:27.900 --> 00:40:31.219 on. And it's always black clothes, which somehow 00:40:31.219 --> 00:40:38.440 is the sluttiest color for boys. Black or white. 00:40:38.559 --> 00:40:51.940 It just is. Valdez, keep going, buddy. I mean, 00:40:51.960 --> 00:40:54.320 you're going to. Yeah, this fight was at 128 00:40:54.320 --> 00:40:58.099 for some reason. I don't know. I think they gave 00:40:58.099 --> 00:41:04.460 Medina. Well, I wonder if Valdez is trying to 00:41:04.460 --> 00:41:07.360 check and see if he can get down to 126 where 00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:14.960 the competition is maybe not so tough. Maybe 00:41:14.960 --> 00:41:18.280 not. Maybe I'm reaching. No, I don't think you 00:41:18.280 --> 00:41:23.099 are. Because he did look a little bit sunken 00:41:23.099 --> 00:41:30.980 in the face. Yeah, because what does Medina usually 00:41:30.980 --> 00:41:35.860 fight at? Medina usually fights at 130 as well. 00:41:40.420 --> 00:41:49.809 So. Between 126 and 130. And 135, actually. He 00:41:49.809 --> 00:41:53.510 has a few up there. It kind of seems like maybe 00:41:53.510 --> 00:42:00.130 Oscar was asking for the 128 limit. Maybe. Maybe 00:42:00.130 --> 00:42:02.489 he is looking to go back down to 126. That would 00:42:02.489 --> 00:42:06.469 be interesting. That would be... Yeah, that's 00:42:06.469 --> 00:42:08.449 something to keep an eye on. See what he does 00:42:08.449 --> 00:42:11.789 next. He hasn't been 126 for a very long time. 00:42:16.659 --> 00:42:18.840 Maybe if he's looking to not get hit in the face 00:42:18.840 --> 00:42:24.119 so hard. Yeah, he had a lot of hard fights at 00:42:24.119 --> 00:42:29.699 130. Yeah. He's not particularly big, Oscar Valdez, 00:42:29.800 --> 00:42:34.340 but cutting that extra four pounds might be hard. 00:42:37.980 --> 00:42:49.570 Moving to previews. We've got three. No limit 00:42:49.570 --> 00:42:53.570 on the 18th. They're doing it on a Thursday this 00:42:53.570 --> 00:43:00.469 time. Really did me a favor here. Australia, 00:43:00.550 --> 00:43:06.670 thank you. From the bottom, I only have three 00:43:06.670 --> 00:43:09.050 that I picked up. Brock Jarvis, quick turnaround. 00:43:10.889 --> 00:43:16.010 That last fight, he didn't take any. Damage anyways. 00:43:16.510 --> 00:43:24.670 Might as well. Liam Wilson versus Sandy Tavares. 00:43:26.949 --> 00:43:31.150 Give me a second here. Alright. It really is 00:43:31.150 --> 00:43:36.050 a dude named Sandy. That's not that uncommon. 00:43:36.409 --> 00:43:39.289 I was just thinking about it. There's been a 00:43:39.289 --> 00:43:41.489 lot of baseball players that have been named 00:43:41.489 --> 00:43:47.630 Sandy. It's usually short for Alexander. Get 00:43:47.630 --> 00:43:51.329 shortened to Xander and then Xandy. Xandy, yeah. 00:43:51.690 --> 00:43:58.849 Okay. Not weird. Just, uh... It is not a lady 00:43:58.849 --> 00:44:07.050 named Liam. That would be weirder. Yeah. And 00:44:07.050 --> 00:44:13.679 Liam Paro versus David Papat. Papat, Papo, Papit. 00:44:15.219 --> 00:44:20.179 Papit, probably. Is he a white guy? Papit. Oh, 00:44:20.239 --> 00:44:24.900 he's from France, though. Papo. Something lame. 00:44:28.380 --> 00:44:32.920 These look like kind of walkover fights to me. 00:44:33.780 --> 00:44:38.599 I don't expect any of the A -sides to lose. No, 00:44:38.599 --> 00:44:41.619 I don't either. But they look good on paper. 00:44:42.559 --> 00:44:44.840 Yeah, but the French guys never fought outside 00:44:44.840 --> 00:44:49.820 of France. Bruno Saras never fought out of France. 00:44:51.179 --> 00:44:55.219 He fought in the States once and got a split 00:44:55.219 --> 00:45:00.340 draw. The one time he ventured out of France. 00:45:01.320 --> 00:45:05.500 I don't see Paro getting Sarast. I don't either. 00:45:06.510 --> 00:45:10.329 I didn't see Munguia getting Sarast either. And 00:45:10.329 --> 00:45:16.289 where's Sandy from? He's from the Dominican Republic. 00:45:17.090 --> 00:45:25.610 Never fought outside Dominican. So. Yeah. I'm 00:45:25.610 --> 00:45:30.789 expecting A -side wins. Put him down in the pick 00:45:30.789 --> 00:45:35.000 league. Honestly, I don't know if Vom will even 00:45:35.000 --> 00:45:38.659 bother with these. I know that Liam Parrow is 00:45:38.659 --> 00:45:45.440 on there, so maybe the rest are. Fair enough. 00:45:45.659 --> 00:45:50.260 If there's not much going on, I guess. There's 00:45:50.260 --> 00:45:56.139 also, on the 20th, Star Boxing. A bunch of shit 00:45:56.139 --> 00:45:58.579 on here that I don't care about, but Mickey Scala, 00:45:58.780 --> 00:46:03.590 Arizona fucking prospect. Gotta help. Gotta get 00:46:03.590 --> 00:46:07.130 my boy's name out there. He's from Mesa. Yep. 00:46:07.570 --> 00:46:11.570 Not too far from where I live now. He is very 00:46:11.570 --> 00:46:18.329 done up in his box rec photo. Is he now? He kinda 00:46:18.329 --> 00:46:22.789 looks... Wow. He looks like a comic book character. 00:46:23.190 --> 00:46:26.309 Yeah, he really does. He looks like a superhero 00:46:26.309 --> 00:46:30.309 in a comic book. I guess we're gonna have to 00:46:30.309 --> 00:46:37.599 cheer for him now. Always have been. Team Scala. 00:46:39.119 --> 00:46:46.019 Scala. Is he a Scala? I don't know. Stupid joke. 00:46:47.139 --> 00:46:50.000 Also, Arizona doesn't have a Boston accent, so 00:46:50.000 --> 00:46:56.699 it doesn't make sense. Did you find a place you 00:46:56.699 --> 00:46:59.320 can actually watch this one, Leo? Or are we just... 00:46:59.320 --> 00:47:05.199 It's on the Starboxing website. nice hopefully 00:47:05.199 --> 00:47:07.480 they don't do another fucking pay -per -view 00:47:07.480 --> 00:47:11.659 they're not expensive but still like dude why 00:47:11.659 --> 00:47:14.639 are you doing this this is gross how how much 00:47:14.639 --> 00:47:17.159 like if it's more than five dollars it's too 00:47:17.159 --> 00:47:20.219 much it's more than five dollars that's too much 00:47:20.219 --> 00:47:22.980 yeah i paid for one of them just because i wanted 00:47:22.980 --> 00:47:29.739 to support but yeah i do like i don't think american 00:47:29.739 --> 00:47:34.820 um boxing has this set up but I do like that 00:47:34.820 --> 00:47:37.519 in Japan you can just give them like a donation 00:47:37.519 --> 00:47:43.880 on their website like when I buy boxing tickets 00:47:43.880 --> 00:47:46.719 there is a little check box and you can check 00:47:46.719 --> 00:47:50.619 the box what do they call them an encouragement 00:47:50.619 --> 00:47:55.019 award and you can just type in whatever amount 00:47:55.019 --> 00:47:57.460 of encouragement you want to add on to the price 00:47:57.460 --> 00:48:03.070 of your boxing ticket that's cool Yeah, I think 00:48:03.070 --> 00:48:06.789 they probably could get some money that way if 00:48:06.789 --> 00:48:12.289 the Americans did it. I assume it's not a thing, 00:48:12.369 --> 00:48:14.210 because I've never seen it with any other sport. 00:48:15.170 --> 00:48:20.389 I have never heard of that before, ever. It's 00:48:20.389 --> 00:48:25.909 very innocuous. It's not as annoying as the please 00:48:25.909 --> 00:48:29.510 donate to the starving children at Walmart. It's 00:48:29.510 --> 00:48:32.780 literally just... as you're scrolling, click 00:48:32.780 --> 00:48:38.940 the box or don't click the box. I never click 00:48:38.940 --> 00:48:42.139 the box. I'm too cheap for that. If I'm going 00:48:42.139 --> 00:48:43.900 to give you money, I want a t -shirt or something. 00:48:44.360 --> 00:48:50.019 Yeah, I want something in return. Yeah. Moving 00:48:50.019 --> 00:48:55.780 to Golden Boy. Last thing on our docket here. 00:48:56.619 --> 00:48:59.599 Best thing of the weekend. Golden Boy on his 00:48:59.599 --> 00:49:02.380 own. There are two fights on here. There's going 00:49:02.380 --> 00:49:05.480 to be more, but I haven't seen the fights listed 00:49:05.480 --> 00:49:09.480 anywhere else. So we've got Gabby Fandora versus 00:49:09.480 --> 00:49:14.880 Alexis Kubicki. Kubicki? Kubicki. I'm going with 00:49:14.880 --> 00:49:22.760 that. Undisputed flyweight title. And Oscar Collazo 00:49:22.760 --> 00:49:30.829 versus Jason Vason. That's his real name. That's 00:49:30.829 --> 00:49:34.429 crazy. That's how it's spelled. Jason Basin. 00:49:36.590 --> 00:49:40.989 Guess where he's from. Without looking. Without 00:49:40.989 --> 00:49:45.610 looking. Who has the weirdest names? Dominican. 00:49:46.130 --> 00:49:54.710 Cuban. No, good guess. Philippines. Oh. His nickname 00:49:54.710 --> 00:49:57.800 is Striker. That's a pretty cool nickname. Jason 00:49:57.800 --> 00:50:03.519 Striker Vason? Yep. He is going to get his ass 00:50:03.519 --> 00:50:10.159 beat. No fucking way he beats Collazo. I really 00:50:10.159 --> 00:50:13.079 like Oscar Collazo. Yeah, he's really exciting. 00:50:13.579 --> 00:50:16.340 I don't think anybody beats him anywhere close 00:50:16.340 --> 00:50:19.579 to his weight class. Which, honestly, probably 00:50:19.579 --> 00:50:29.099 isn't even minimum because he is tiny. Koyaso 00:50:29.099 --> 00:50:33.039 can move up though, couldn't he? He's tiny, tiny, 00:50:33.239 --> 00:50:37.300 Leo. No. He's 5 '2". He's shorter than I am. 00:50:38.019 --> 00:50:43.039 5 '2". He's tiny, tiny. Like, he looks small 00:50:43.039 --> 00:50:48.440 in there at 105 pounds. I thought he was taller. 00:50:49.980 --> 00:50:56.880 He is so small. He is a kidnapping risk. Like, 00:50:56.900 --> 00:50:59.039 fucking anybody could just grab him and run. 00:51:04.079 --> 00:51:11.420 I really like him, though. Going back to the 00:51:11.420 --> 00:51:16.619 Gabi -Fandora fight, I would put money on Fandora 00:51:16.619 --> 00:51:19.539 KO, actually, if you can get it, because she's 00:51:19.539 --> 00:51:21.739 fighting some lady from Slave Lake, Alberta. 00:51:24.079 --> 00:51:29.530 This girl is... a hundred percent like a barista 00:51:29.530 --> 00:51:37.389 oh oh no i have no idea who she is and she fights 00:51:37.389 --> 00:51:42.750 in the river cree casino in edmonton like for 00:51:42.750 --> 00:51:48.610 the last couple years i would put money on a 00:51:48.610 --> 00:51:55.489 gabby knockout yeah I would put that one even 00:51:55.489 --> 00:52:01.289 further. The first one to four. Yeah, I don't 00:52:01.289 --> 00:52:04.090 know. Some of those ladies are pretty tough. 00:52:06.150 --> 00:52:10.449 But I don't think there's any chance that Gabrielle 00:52:10.449 --> 00:52:20.250 loses this one. That's all we got on the docket. 00:52:20.369 --> 00:52:27.449 I think we made good time. Nice. Yeah, I am going 00:52:27.449 --> 00:52:30.530 to the horse races afterwards. I have realized 00:52:30.530 --> 00:52:33.469 that gambling alone in your house by yourself 00:52:33.469 --> 00:52:40.230 is like missing 75 % of the fun. Nothing beats 00:52:40.230 --> 00:52:44.010 going to a racetrack and standing at the railing 00:52:44.010 --> 00:52:46.690 and yelling with people. Yelling at horses. At 00:52:46.690 --> 00:52:51.820 your horse. Yeah, yeah. I'm excited. I am going 00:52:51.820 --> 00:52:54.619 with a couple friends from here who've never 00:52:54.619 --> 00:52:57.579 been to the racetrack. They are going to be embarrassed 00:52:57.579 --> 00:53:01.079 by me, and it's going to be awesome. Kind of 00:53:01.079 --> 00:53:03.559 hoping I can make some friends, go out for beers 00:53:03.559 --> 00:53:06.179 afterwards. Racetracks here close at like 5. 00:53:06.400 --> 00:53:11.440 It's crazy. Let me put some shit in here, because 00:53:11.440 --> 00:53:17.840 I didn't do it at any other point. The social 00:53:17.840 --> 00:53:21.960 media handle, LVX Media Net. All one word. Follow 00:53:21.960 --> 00:53:23.619 that everywhere. If you can't find us, we're 00:53:23.619 --> 00:53:26.139 not on it. Wherever you're listening, if you 00:53:26.139 --> 00:53:27.360 could hit us with a rating, it would be really 00:53:27.360 --> 00:53:30.159 helpful. And if you're feeling fucking frisky, 00:53:30.420 --> 00:53:35.820 a review would be nice. If you have any commentary 00:53:35.820 --> 00:53:40.420 and you want to get it to us directly, lvx .be 00:53:40.420 --> 00:53:44.159 slash discord. You can find us in there hanging 00:53:44.159 --> 00:53:47.039 out pretty much any day of the week. Most days, 00:53:47.099 --> 00:53:53.989 anyway. If you go through Patreon, if you join 00:53:53.989 --> 00:53:56.489 through our Patreon, then you'll get a special 00:53:56.489 --> 00:53:59.789 role and you'll bypass a lot of the hazing. That 00:53:59.789 --> 00:54:04.949 definitely does happen. It's not very nice, and 00:54:04.949 --> 00:54:09.010 I do absolutely nothing to make it better. I 00:54:09.010 --> 00:54:13.250 enjoy it. I don't contribute. It's not that bad. 00:54:13.449 --> 00:54:17.110 It's not that bad. Yeah. I don't know. It can 00:54:17.110 --> 00:54:20.710 get pretty... Pretty harsh. If you're not an 00:54:20.710 --> 00:54:23.670 asshole, it's not that bad. Right. You just gotta 00:54:23.670 --> 00:54:27.289 take your licks. It'll be fine. Yeah. I mean, 00:54:27.309 --> 00:54:29.489 I think I get more hazing now that I'm not a 00:54:29.489 --> 00:54:35.510 gray than I did when I was gray. But that's it. 00:54:38.329 --> 00:54:40.409 That's it for this edition of Boxing Before Dark. 00:54:42.170 --> 00:54:45.489 My battery is getting low. And it is getting 00:54:45.489 --> 00:54:50.079 dark. We're fucking out of here. Woo!