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The B -Side in boxing. B -Side shit. B -Side.

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B -Side. And the B -Side. You got a B -Side.

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The B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. The B

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-Side thing. This is the B -Sides Boxing Podcast.

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Let's fucking go. Boxing B -Sides. We're back,

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bitch. We are just we're not talking about anything

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but Canelo Crawford. Well, that's not entirely

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true because there's just a little bit of other

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shit. But so let's get into that other stuff

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coming up on Thursday. Never forget September

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11th. Oh, I didn't even do an introduction. Boxing

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B -sides, joined by Josh and Saul. We're that

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excited for 9 -11. I am that fucking excited

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for Canelo Crawford. I completely fucking shat

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the bed there. Alright, how are you guys doing?

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Are you guys fucking pumped for this weekend?

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Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. I've been waiting

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for it for fucking two years. Really? You haven't

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been waiting for this fight for years? No, I've

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been waiting for Canelo to fight Benavidez or

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Morel for years. Yeah, but you're kind of silly

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if you ever thought that was going to happen,

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so that's kind of you. Oh, yeah. And Bud leaving

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top rank was also one of my fantasies. You got

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a lot of fantasies that don't happen, dude. Sorry.

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Oh, man. Before we get to the main dish, main

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part of the dish, let's knock out some other

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shit. Thursday, September 11th, never forget.

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It's The Ring Presents The Underdog. There's

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not a whole lot of shit on there, but the only

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one I really care about, Anthony Olasquaga, the

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WBO flyweight champ versus Juan Carlos Camacho.

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That should be fun. If you like the little guys.

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If you like little people, yeah. That sounds

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fucked up. If you're like Shinada that loves

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the smaller weight classes. Yeah, it's a good

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day for you. Oh, man. One other card on Saturday,

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September 13th. This one's in the UK, so no worries

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about time overlaps. There's some interesting

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stuff on this card. I'll just cherry pick on

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my way up here. Molly McCann, former UFC fighter

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making her boxing debut. So that should be fun.

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Pat Brown is a British Olympian. And this is

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his fourth fight. So he's doing pretty well.

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Pat Brown. Don't care, don't care. Lewis Crocker

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versus Patty Donovan for the IBF welterweight

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title. This is a rematch, grudge match. Last

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one ended in a DQ, as you might recall. So I'm

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expecting fireworks here. Do we want to do Inouye

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first or save that for the end? Let's do Inoue

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first. I was supposed to do Inoue and top playing

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cards first because it's going to be... I was

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going to say like... Go ahead. We actually have

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a decent card here. Sunday, September 14th. Ohashi

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at the IG Arena in Nagoya, Japan. There's a bunch

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of bullshit on here. Co -main event. Yoshiki

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Takei versus Christian Medina. For the WBO bantamweight

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title. That should be good. Takei is a fun fighter.

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But the main event, Naoya Inoue versus Morochan

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Akamadaliyev, aka MJ. Josh, I think you had a

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good summary of the event. MJ, it's been good

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knowing you. You are fucked. It's going to be

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good to watch, but like... The expectation is

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just MJ. MJ's done. You know he's going to run

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him over. I'm going to try to play devil's advocate.

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Okay. He'll maybe last eight rounds. There you

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go. That's my devil's advocate. That's a good

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devil's advocate. That's a good devil's advocate.

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I can't say anything more than that, honestly.

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If it goes the distance with any way, I'll be

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surprised. So let me throw out maybe some things

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that will change your mind on how this goes.

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Naoya, in a way, struggles with southpaws. MJ

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is a southpaw. Does that change your mind at

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all? No, no. By struggles, you mean, like, takes

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longer to stop. Yes. MJ's not a good southpaw,

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and his last outing, look, he looked bad. He

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actually looked bad. So... He's got a chance

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to hit the hill. MJ shares... He's a stable mate

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of Ramon Cardenas. A guy who got stopped by NA.

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He gave him all he could handle. Like a solid

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eight rounds. Yeah, but I mean... He doesn't

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have the power of that guy. He doesn't have the

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power of Ramon. So I was thinking also because

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that's eight rounds of experience that MJ's coach

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has. Eight rounds of, in a way, experience. Yeah,

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but it's all for the fighter. I mean, we give,

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like, BOMAC fighters, they get, like, a little

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buff. Yeah, that's BOMAC, though. Oh, well. It's

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different. You know? Now, if you're saying someone

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like Eddie, you know, Eddie Reynoso, I wouldn't

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give someone a buck just because they're with

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Eddie Reynoso. You know? Eddie Reynoso doesn't

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train dynamic fighters. Fair enough. Oh, Mac

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does. He trains Canelo. Same thing with Boze

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Ennis, at least from what I've seen. Well, Canelo,

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we're going to get to that right now, but I mean,

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come on. I mean, come on. Come on. Let's get

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right into that. That's like the one -handed

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wonder fucking CeeLo Green type shit. Oh, my

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God. It's a one -hit wonder. Of your personal

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pound -for -pound top three, or top five, where

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is Inoue? Inoue? That's just hating, dude. That's

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hating. I have him at two. Usyk one. That's hating.

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Usyk one, Inoue two isn't even hating. It's hating.

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Come on. That's hating. Once Crawford beats Canelo,

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you're going to put him at... No, I'm going to

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say Canelo was never good. Yeah, yeah. So I'm

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still going to have Crawford like five. All right.

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We'll talk about it right now. But either way,

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I agree somewhat. I agree somewhat. I agree somewhat.

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So if he's not number two, and that's hating,

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then you've got to have him at number one. Is

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that where you're at? Not really. I would put...

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I think him and Crawford are tied right now.

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For first or second? Second. Second. All right.

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I can't put Crawford above any way. I can't put

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any way above Crawford. Oh, my God. I have him

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at number two. Yeah, he's already getting fucking...

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Oh, my God, bro. We'll get to it right now. We'll

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get to it. Dude, just because you fucking hate

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Crawford doesn't mean he's not a good fighter.

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Yeah. It's not even hate. I have Bud. Like, my

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haters list, like, Bud is three or four. Bud

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is three or four on my list. It's not even hating.

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Like, Usyk and Inouye are not moving. Okay, the

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thing is, Usyk is not going to move at all. Usyk

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is where he's at right now. He's at number one,

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pound for pound, greatest in the world right

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now. Yeah, I'm keeping Inouye at number two.

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I mean, bro, it's Crawford, dude. Inouye's clearing

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out divisions and he's not fighting guys like

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Ndongo. Hold it. I might even start, bro. He

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already started it. I'm not continuing it. We

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need to wrap up the Inouye section and then we

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can get into Canelo versus Crawford and their

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merits. All right. So that was the question.

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You have them at number two. We all have them

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at second. I agree. I agree. I was kind of just

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trying to bait. I just want to see what you say.

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So everybody, we have them pound for pound number

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two, arguably number one, depending on what your

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criteria is. But yeah, this is a guy to watch.

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I mean, if you're listening to this, you already

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fucking know that. Let's get to what we're here

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for. TKO promotions on Netflix. That felt gross

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to say. TKO promotions. Yeah. Fucking nasty.

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All right. So from the bottom up, let's knock

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out all the other shit before we get to the main

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course. Sultan Al -Muhammad versus Martin Caraballo.

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Lightweights. I don't know who they are. Marco

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Verde versus Marcos Osorio. Verde is apparently

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an Olympian. Was a silver medalist. Yeah, he's

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a silver. He's fought on the Canelo goal undercard.

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Nice. Body shot. Oh, those are the best. Moving

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up, Reito Tsutsumi versus Javier Martinez. Tsutsumi

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is a ring fighter. It starts at a negative opinion,

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but he's pretty fun to watch. I'll admit. Yeah,

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he's not bad. He's been on the past couple of

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these cards. Yeah, he's a ring guy. He was on

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ring three. The Times Square? Yeah, no, no, no.

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Ring three, Berlanga. He was on ring three with

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Berlanga? No, that was, I think, his brother.

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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hayato. Yeah, that's right.

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Hayato Susumi. Moving up, the high fashion Stephen

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Nelson versus Raiko Santana. Fucking M. Bison.

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M. Bison. Tupac cosplay. Nelson. M. Nelson. Moving

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up, Ivan Ditchko versus Jermaine Franklin. Imagine

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that. Hey, man, I'm excited to see Jermaine Franklin

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back in. Is he the high hope of American heavyweights?

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No, he just gives guys fits. It's good. He's

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a good guy to be in the division, in the mix.

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I think it's going to be a shout -out with this

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Ukrainian guy. I don't know. Yeah, I think they're

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bringing in Jermaine Franklin. out of obscurity

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for some great value. I don't think that Chico

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couldn't do it. He's kind of old as fuck and

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hasn't really left. Like, his best win is probably

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Ariel Esteban -Racamonte. I mean, what's Jermaine

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Franklin's best win? Yeah, but the thing is,

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he doesn't have a good win, but he's also hung

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in there with Anthony Joshua and Dylan Wise.

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I mean... Oh, here it is. Jerry Forrest. Jerry

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Forrest. There we go. That's his best win. All

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right. All right. Yeah. All right. I mean, neither

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of them have bad or good wins, but I'm just...

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No, I just, like... I mean, this guy, he's an

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Eastern European, so, I mean, I got to give him

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that kind of buff. Oh, he hasn't been, like...

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I don't know. That's because I'm rather high

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on Jermaine Franklin. That might be a brand new

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sentence. I'm high on Jermaine Franklin, even

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if he has no power, just because, like, you know

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what, man? You give guys fits, that's okay. Well,

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I'm high on fucking William Scholl. You're high

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on William Scholl. You're high, period, to be

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high on William Scholl. Yeah, if you're high

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up, period. Be on fucking high on Jermaine Franklin,

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bro. It's heavyweights, dude. I mean, you're

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right. Yeah, you're right. Anything can happen.

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What the fuck am I? You're right. Anything can

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happen. That's heavyweights, man. I'm just going

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to say, the guy who's 35 and only fights once

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a year against no -hopers versus, yeah, Jermaine

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Franklin hasn't fought in a hot minute, but...

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And what is a hot minute? What is a hot minute?

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One year. A year and a bit. Yeah. That's quite

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a while. Yeah. So you gotta be fair. You gotta

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be fair. It's an obvious fight. I know. But Jermaine

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Franklin can fight. Yeah. Yeah. He's got heart.

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He's got heart. I will say he's got heart. I'm

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gonna say like it's like you know like So it's

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a good step up for Ditchco. Yeah. I genuinely

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think it's more to position the winner as an

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opponent for, like, Itama. I think Jermaine Franklin

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fits that bill either way. Yeah, but, like, perfect.

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The winner of this fight is in a perfect position

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to fight Itama as, like, a sort of step up from

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White. I don't know. I just think it's going

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to be a pretty fun, like, two fat dudes punch

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each other for 12 rounds, and Jermaine Franklin's

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going to eke out a decision. Yeah, I mean, it'll

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be a fun fight, you know? That's my honest prediction.

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Like, it's not, oh, Jermaine Franklin is this,

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like, unpolished gem, because, like, an unpolished

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gem could have beaten Billy White. I just, like,

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I'm not that high on Deichko, and, like... I

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think Franklin will have a bit more in the tank

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down the stretch. I mean, I don't know. We'll

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see when the fight happens. We're going to have

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to set up Discord roles just for you two. Just

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for us. Just for us. I'm crazy. All right. Moving

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up to Callum Walsh versus Fernando Vargas Jr.

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Wait, hold on. You missed one. You missed one.

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Which one? Did you miss Bochuk? That's next.

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No, that's next, bro. Oh, sorry. Read the outline.

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On the main card? Yeah. Oh, they're moving to

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the main card. That's pretty cool. It could be

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in the prelims. The way that I have them ordered

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is how much do I care? Oh, okay. Oh, okay. So

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why the hell did you put fucking Jermaine Franklin

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under Canelo Crawford? The last bastion of American

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heavyweight boxing. I gotta believe. Yeah, we

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gotta believe, man. Come on. I'm a believer.

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Callum Walsh versus Fernando Vargas. Not the

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best Vargas brother. Callum Walsh is alright.

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Also not the worst. Yeah. He's not the worst

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brother either, that's for sure. So, I don't

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know. These two guys are at about equal footing.

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So this is a good make or break. Break into contention.

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I want to say I'm rooting for Fernando Vargas

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Jr. I really am because Kellen Walsh is going

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to be fucking... That's the UFC guy. That's Dana's

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guy. I want him to be Dana. I want a Marv Nation

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dude to be fucking Dana's guy. All right? I mean,

00:17:09.119 --> 00:17:11.660
Fernando Vargas Jr., he's not bad, you know?

00:17:11.740 --> 00:17:13.859
I mean, we talk smack about him, but he's not

00:17:13.859 --> 00:17:19.259
bad. No, he's not terrible at all. I think...

00:17:19.259 --> 00:17:21.500
I was watching the interview with him the other

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day. He believed in himself. He truly believes

00:17:24.920 --> 00:17:27.440
in himself to win that fight. The way he sounds,

00:17:27.500 --> 00:17:32.539
I don't know. He sounds confident in himself.

00:17:32.740 --> 00:17:36.220
I gotta give it to him. I think he's gonna bring

00:17:36.220 --> 00:17:38.240
it in the fight. He's not gonna back down, at

00:17:38.240 --> 00:17:41.220
least. He's not gonna run away. If you look at

00:17:41.220 --> 00:17:44.740
his... His resume, I mean, it's not bad. It's

00:17:44.740 --> 00:17:49.099
17 wins, 15 knockouts. Albeit, it's a Marv Nation

00:17:49.099 --> 00:17:54.039
fighter, but it's not bad. Colin Walsh, I mean...

00:17:54.039 --> 00:17:59.220
I don't know. What's the word? Fucking Marv Nation?

00:17:59.440 --> 00:18:05.180
Or UFC bypass? Oh, Marv Nation. Wait, what's

00:18:05.180 --> 00:18:08.029
the worst? Yeah, what's the worst? Oh, I would

00:18:08.029 --> 00:18:11.009
take Marv Nation over UFC Fight Pass any day

00:18:11.009 --> 00:18:14.089
of the week. Yeah. I mean, the only thing is

00:18:14.089 --> 00:18:18.470
that this guy, he's also got 14 wins, 11 knockouts.

00:18:19.509 --> 00:18:22.529
So, I mean, it really depends. I mean, the guy

00:18:22.529 --> 00:18:25.990
is not the best. They're both not the best, but

00:18:25.990 --> 00:18:27.349
I think it'll be a good fight. It'll still be

00:18:27.349 --> 00:18:35.250
pretty fun. Vargas has, he's 17 -0 with 15 knockouts.

00:18:40.370 --> 00:18:44.690
It's an even match. They're pretty evenly matched,

00:18:44.869 --> 00:18:49.950
but I'm going with Vargas for sure. I'm surprised.

00:18:50.089 --> 00:18:54.430
Isn't he the B -side? He's not a favorite? I

00:18:54.430 --> 00:19:01.289
think just because it's UFC, UFC in -house type,

00:19:01.470 --> 00:19:08.740
that they'll have Callum Walsh. I hope Fernando

00:19:08.740 --> 00:19:11.539
Vargas has a good chin. I'll tell you that. Because

00:19:11.539 --> 00:19:14.660
this Irish guy, I mean, you know, Mickey Ward.

00:19:15.160 --> 00:19:17.880
Yeah, Irish dudes come to Rumble, and they usually

00:19:17.880 --> 00:19:26.000
have baby hands. Yeah. Yeah, Fernando too. Yeah.

00:19:28.220 --> 00:19:29.500
Yeah, I mean, that's all you can really say about

00:19:29.500 --> 00:19:31.039
that, yeah. This is a good fight. This is a quality

00:19:31.039 --> 00:19:33.079
scrap. This is a quality scrap. Yeah. I just

00:19:33.079 --> 00:19:37.509
wish it wasn't coming. That's actually ridiculous.

00:19:37.609 --> 00:19:40.910
Oh, boy. That's brutal. Don't even. Don't even.

00:19:42.269 --> 00:19:45.049
All right, let's move up. Sergey Bohochuk versus

00:19:45.049 --> 00:19:50.809
Brandon Adams. Rematch. Was the first fight,

00:19:50.910 --> 00:19:53.730
the quick knockout, was that a fluke, do you

00:19:53.730 --> 00:19:56.430
think? Because Bohochuk has taken some heavy

00:19:56.430 --> 00:20:00.509
hitters, and he survived. It was a TKO in the

00:20:00.509 --> 00:20:05.170
eighth round. It was the eighth round? Yes. Oh,

00:20:05.190 --> 00:20:06.750
shit. I thought it was earlier. I thought it

00:20:06.750 --> 00:20:11.309
was like the first two. Nope. I think this is

00:20:11.309 --> 00:20:13.990
kind of a banana peel to fuck over Boa Chug.

00:20:14.769 --> 00:20:21.529
This could go... Yeah. He's a... He's a very...

00:20:21.529 --> 00:20:24.769
He's a rather dangerous fight for most of the

00:20:24.769 --> 00:20:32.500
guys. Turkey wants to push at 154. And... another

00:20:32.500 --> 00:20:37.099
loss to brandon adams a brandon adams is a lot

00:20:37.099 --> 00:20:42.019
more a lot less steep of a challenge for um the

00:20:42.019 --> 00:20:46.779
non -virgils of the division but it also takes

00:20:46.779 --> 00:20:49.079
boa chuck out of the picture for the most part

00:20:49.079 --> 00:20:54.240
i mean hypothetically brandon adams wins i mean

00:20:54.240 --> 00:20:59.299
come on no i know that's a guy for boots to beat

00:20:59.299 --> 00:21:03.450
on basically You got a guy's way you gotta get

00:21:03.450 --> 00:21:06.589
you now now instead of a guy of comparable size

00:21:06.589 --> 00:21:13.170
the boots who? like Can totally box and bang

00:21:13.170 --> 00:21:18.410
You have a 36 year old guy who is now a good

00:21:18.410 --> 00:21:22.589
bit smaller than boots Just like it's a let's

00:21:22.589 --> 00:21:24.890
a better fit for boots to beat up and counter

00:21:24.890 --> 00:21:28.599
a smaller guy than to have to really boxed with

00:21:28.599 --> 00:21:31.180
a guy who isn't trying to avoid him. Bojack's

00:21:31.180 --> 00:21:36.220
going to go for it. Well, if Bojack loses, he's

00:21:36.220 --> 00:21:38.440
going to be out of the picture for sure. Yeah,

00:21:38.460 --> 00:21:43.119
that's what I mean. It's going to be a rough

00:21:43.119 --> 00:21:47.039
way back. Because, I mean, right now he's rated

00:21:47.039 --> 00:21:49.640
number one in the WBC, right? He's got that number

00:21:49.640 --> 00:21:57.579
one ranking. Oof. That would be tough. if he

00:21:57.579 --> 00:21:59.960
slipped, like you called it a banana peel. I

00:21:59.960 --> 00:22:03.680
think that's exactly right. Yeah, like Bochuk

00:22:03.680 --> 00:22:06.539
should absolutely get it back, but the thing

00:22:06.539 --> 00:22:09.079
is that Brandon Adams did wear him down and stop

00:22:09.079 --> 00:22:11.380
him. It's totally something. Like, it's not impossible

00:22:11.380 --> 00:22:16.880
for this to just be, ah, Bochuk lost and took

00:22:16.880 --> 00:22:21.180
himself out of the picture. You know? Like, it's

00:22:21.180 --> 00:22:24.960
a happy coincidence if Bochuk loses again to

00:22:24.960 --> 00:22:28.220
this guy who is... A better style matchup for

00:22:28.220 --> 00:22:29.859
the guys you want to push at this weight class.

00:22:31.259 --> 00:22:33.640
I mean, yeah, but what if Bochuk knocks him out?

00:22:33.740 --> 00:22:35.859
I mean, I got a feeling that Bochuk... Oh, well,

00:22:36.019 --> 00:22:39.380
then on the card of this magnitude, you keep

00:22:39.380 --> 00:22:42.900
Bochuk in the mix. Yeah. It's a win -win. Either

00:22:42.900 --> 00:22:46.859
you have another guy at this weight class, or

00:22:46.859 --> 00:22:52.259
you have an opponent at this weight class. Guarantee

00:22:52.259 --> 00:22:53.759
if he wins this fight, he's going to go to Mattrum.

00:22:54.480 --> 00:22:59.190
Guarantee. Either guy. This is very much promoter

00:22:59.190 --> 00:23:04.869
leaves with the winner. I take that back. Guaranteed

00:23:04.869 --> 00:23:08.329
he's going to go to TKO. Boho Chuck, I think,

00:23:08.329 --> 00:23:13.369
is with 360 as well. Yeah. It's not bad. It's

00:23:13.369 --> 00:23:19.269
not going to be hard to fucking switch. 360 promotions

00:23:19.269 --> 00:23:25.480
is going to become a feeder promo. Gross. I mean,

00:23:25.599 --> 00:23:29.920
they don't really have any guys, huh? No, they

00:23:29.920 --> 00:23:33.480
don't, but still. It's still gross. It's still

00:23:33.480 --> 00:23:37.240
UFC. Yeah, like, we don't want them in the sport,

00:23:37.380 --> 00:23:41.799
damn it. Yucky, yucky. Sorry, Ultimate fucking

00:23:41.799 --> 00:23:45.119
Casuals, but... I don't even think... They don't

00:23:45.119 --> 00:23:46.960
like Dana either, dude. They like the sport.

00:23:47.579 --> 00:23:52.049
Yeah, the fans of the sport. It just so happens

00:23:52.049 --> 00:23:56.910
that UFC has the best people. If it was another

00:23:56.910 --> 00:24:02.529
organization, then UFC could get fucked. If they

00:24:02.529 --> 00:24:11.450
had good people, it's pretty secondary. Is he

00:24:11.450 --> 00:24:15.490
fighting, though? That's true. He's more of a

00:24:15.490 --> 00:24:19.160
boxer than a PFL fighter. He's MIA. Hey, no,

00:24:19.259 --> 00:24:22.680
but allegedly he's fighting Wilder. Oh, right.

00:24:23.319 --> 00:24:25.200
I'd watch that shit. It'd be funny. Oh, hell

00:24:25.200 --> 00:24:28.140
yeah, I'd watch it, but... Hey, Brent, fuck no.

00:24:28.460 --> 00:24:31.140
240 -year -old man. Is what I would say on opposite

00:24:31.140 --> 00:24:36.220
day. Anything more for Bohochuk and Brandon Adams?

00:24:38.279 --> 00:24:40.259
Well, Leo, what do you think about it? You think

00:24:40.259 --> 00:24:43.259
the same thing? What do I think? Yeah, you gotta

00:24:43.259 --> 00:24:45.000
give us your opinion, dude. Come on. Oh, man.

00:24:45.059 --> 00:24:46.700
This is your fucking podcast. Come on, man. I

00:24:46.700 --> 00:24:49.640
was up to the mic. This is your podcast. This

00:24:49.640 --> 00:24:52.440
is true. Well, I just enjoyed listening to you

00:24:52.440 --> 00:24:55.359
two bicker with each other. Well, I love you.

00:24:55.359 --> 00:24:57.180
Thank you for that. But I'm going to rip this

00:24:57.180 --> 00:25:00.660
fucking dude's head off right now. Bo Hachuk,

00:25:00.680 --> 00:25:02.579
I think he's going to get this one back, and

00:25:02.579 --> 00:25:04.220
I think he's going to get it back emphatically.

00:25:04.779 --> 00:25:09.460
He's in his most recent, of their most recent

00:25:09.460 --> 00:25:13.319
resume, Bo Hachuk has, like, all stars on it.

00:25:14.079 --> 00:25:22.569
And Brandon Adams has overtime. OTX. You could

00:25:22.569 --> 00:25:25.069
say that means that Brandon Adams has had less

00:25:25.069 --> 00:25:29.450
wear than Bohachuk has, but I don't know. I think

00:25:29.450 --> 00:25:33.390
Bohachuk's got the experience now, and he's going

00:25:33.390 --> 00:25:42.130
to get this one back convincingly. I agree. Now.

00:25:44.240 --> 00:25:46.940
Let's move up to Christian Mbili versus Lester

00:25:46.940 --> 00:25:54.359
Martinez. Interim WBC title on the line. Ooh,

00:25:54.500 --> 00:25:57.680
baby. Ooh, baby. I'll start here. Ooh, baby.

00:25:59.700 --> 00:26:02.240
Lester Martinez has been cutting his teeth on

00:26:02.240 --> 00:26:09.400
Probox. Probox good. Probox good. Let's go. So

00:26:09.400 --> 00:26:13.289
Lester's been cutting his teeth in. Hard matchups,

00:26:13.329 --> 00:26:16.470
and he's been winning them with relative ease.

00:26:17.569 --> 00:26:22.289
Whereas Christian Mbili, his best win is Derevyanchenko.

00:26:23.950 --> 00:26:28.329
Probably. And he struggled against a guy that

00:26:28.329 --> 00:26:31.109
had a torn bicep pretty much the entire fight.

00:26:33.390 --> 00:26:36.450
I'm digging Lester Martinez on this one. As much

00:26:36.450 --> 00:26:39.690
as I've been high on Mbili coming up, because

00:26:39.690 --> 00:26:42.960
he's super exciting to watch. I'm still feeling

00:26:42.960 --> 00:26:47.000
Lester Martinez on this one. Unfortunately, Mbili's

00:26:47.000 --> 00:26:50.400
going to get found out. Because that's how I

00:26:50.400 --> 00:26:54.200
think it goes anyway. What do you guys think?

00:26:55.099 --> 00:26:58.619
Josh, you go first. I think it's going to be

00:26:58.619 --> 00:27:01.700
a fun -ass fight. That's the big one. If Mbili

00:27:01.700 --> 00:27:05.180
gets found out, excellent. Like, we got a guy

00:27:05.180 --> 00:27:07.380
on the stage who's cut his teeth on ProBucks.

00:27:08.559 --> 00:27:10.799
And you know what? If Mbili happens to be made

00:27:10.799 --> 00:27:13.259
of tougher stuff, then good. He's who we thought

00:27:13.259 --> 00:27:18.460
he was. I think the winner of this becomes an

00:27:18.460 --> 00:27:21.960
intriguing Canelo opponent. That's the big thing

00:27:21.960 --> 00:27:26.380
that I want. More than. You think he's going

00:27:26.380 --> 00:27:27.980
to become an intriguing Canelo opponent? You

00:27:27.980 --> 00:27:30.940
think he becomes a Canelo opponent? An intriguing

00:27:30.940 --> 00:27:33.640
Canelo opponent. It's not going to happen. I

00:27:33.640 --> 00:27:37.420
think he becomes an intriguing option. Hold on,

00:27:37.420 --> 00:27:39.400
let me look at 168, because I want to see who

00:27:39.400 --> 00:27:43.160
else is there. See if there's anybody that maybe

00:27:43.160 --> 00:27:49.740
you find more deserving. Oh, fuck. All that's

00:27:49.740 --> 00:27:53.740
really left is Hamza Shiraz. That Shiraz doesn't

00:27:53.740 --> 00:27:56.339
deserve that shit. No, yeah, and Billy, more

00:27:56.339 --> 00:27:59.559
intriguing, by far. We know Shiraz is going to

00:27:59.559 --> 00:28:05.379
get it, though, because he's Turkey's pet. So,

00:28:05.379 --> 00:28:08.299
what do you got? Let me take this. Let me take

00:28:08.299 --> 00:28:14.539
this. All right. I agree with both you guys.

00:28:14.619 --> 00:28:16.559
It's a tricky fight, no doubt about it. I think

00:28:16.559 --> 00:28:22.160
whoever wins this fight is going to become a

00:28:22.160 --> 00:28:24.339
power player in the future, no doubt about it.

00:28:26.160 --> 00:28:29.759
But to get a shot at Canelo, we obviously know

00:28:29.759 --> 00:28:30.920
who he's going to fight next. It's going to be

00:28:30.920 --> 00:28:34.200
fucking Hamish Uraz. That's... Pretty damn obvious.

00:28:35.599 --> 00:28:39.319
Either him or fucking Eubank. We already know

00:28:39.319 --> 00:28:45.640
about that. Oh, yeah. I think... I think... It's

00:28:45.640 --> 00:28:46.880
okay. It's hard for me to say he's going to win

00:28:46.880 --> 00:28:51.940
a fight, dude. It's really hard. Because... Whereas...

00:28:51.940 --> 00:28:55.440
I mean, Lester Martinez has the pro box buff,

00:28:55.640 --> 00:28:59.319
right? But... And Billy, he's been... He's been

00:28:59.319 --> 00:29:00.839
looking pretty good these last couple fights.

00:29:01.720 --> 00:29:04.619
You know? Especially the last fight, he knocked

00:29:04.619 --> 00:29:07.299
out Slecky, a guy that went eight rounds with

00:29:07.299 --> 00:29:11.500
Deco Pacheco, in one round. I think it was the

00:29:11.500 --> 00:29:13.960
first or second, right? Was it the first or second?

00:29:14.819 --> 00:29:18.279
First. First? Okay. First. Okay, so he knocked

00:29:18.279 --> 00:29:20.859
him out in the first round. I think that's pretty

00:29:20.859 --> 00:29:24.339
good. That's a pretty good look on his resume.

00:29:24.400 --> 00:29:26.839
Whereas Lester Martinez, who was his best win?

00:29:27.880 --> 00:29:30.859
Nobody with a name. It's nobody with a name.

00:29:30.750 --> 00:29:32.849
it's nobody with a name but the thing is that

00:29:32.849 --> 00:29:35.410
just the way pro box matches their guys like

00:29:35.410 --> 00:29:39.529
they're all guys they're all solid guys who just

00:29:39.529 --> 00:29:43.049
happen to not have a name so getting out of that

00:29:43.049 --> 00:29:49.470
like murderer's row basically of like no names

00:29:49.470 --> 00:29:54.150
with no names with skills basically Because it's

00:29:54.150 --> 00:29:57.549
not like the names are against. It's not like

00:29:57.549 --> 00:30:00.250
most of his fights are against. Like, no hopers.

00:30:00.410 --> 00:30:04.730
Like, guys with a couple draws, guys with a couple

00:30:04.730 --> 00:30:06.809
losses. Like, it's all winning records, really.

00:30:06.910 --> 00:30:10.309
All the pro box ones, at least. I see what you're

00:30:10.309 --> 00:30:16.450
saying. Yeah, no skills. They got skills. So

00:30:16.450 --> 00:30:19.490
it's not like he crushed cans on his way up.

00:30:19.549 --> 00:30:23.279
It's just... Again, different stage than Mbili.

00:30:23.740 --> 00:30:26.619
Mbili definitely has the big, like, not the big

00:30:26.619 --> 00:30:29.519
fight edge, but, like, the fact that he's been

00:30:29.519 --> 00:30:32.720
under the lights a little bit more and has the

00:30:32.720 --> 00:30:37.559
better name wins. But, like, it's still, like,

00:30:37.640 --> 00:30:42.759
the way Mbili's style works is, like, a guy,

00:30:42.880 --> 00:30:46.400
like a hidden gem, like Martinez may pan out

00:30:46.400 --> 00:30:52.049
to be, can totally... expose him, to say the

00:30:52.049 --> 00:30:56.430
least. You know? If Mbili's cut from a different

00:30:56.430 --> 00:30:59.150
cloth, like Benavidez turned out to be, for sure.

00:31:00.170 --> 00:31:02.849
Go ahead. And he gets full credit for beating

00:31:02.849 --> 00:31:06.710
the shit out of Lester Martinez. I'm gonna be

00:31:06.710 --> 00:31:08.529
honest, I can go either way on this one. Yeah,

00:31:08.549 --> 00:31:10.670
like I'm saying, but what I'm trying to say is

00:31:10.670 --> 00:31:12.609
the same as Leo, like, don't be surprised if

00:31:12.609 --> 00:31:17.450
Martinez pulls it off. No, yeah. I honestly don't

00:31:17.450 --> 00:31:20.329
see this one going the distance also. Oh, no.

00:31:20.430 --> 00:31:24.349
This one is... I don't know. I think this one

00:31:24.349 --> 00:31:26.849
is going to be probably the fight of the night.

00:31:27.190 --> 00:31:28.390
I'm going to call right now. This is going to

00:31:28.390 --> 00:31:29.690
be the fight of the night. Unless you're too

00:31:29.690 --> 00:31:32.509
scared to fucking fight, it's destined to be

00:31:32.509 --> 00:31:35.029
fight of the night because you have two guys

00:31:35.029 --> 00:31:37.789
that are fucking vloggers. I mean, Lester Martinez,

00:31:38.170 --> 00:31:40.970
I think, honestly, Lester Martinez has shown

00:31:40.970 --> 00:31:45.279
me a little more dynamic. He's a little dynamic

00:31:45.279 --> 00:31:48.900
to his game, you know? Yeah, I got you. But Christian

00:31:48.900 --> 00:31:51.279
Billy just looks more like a... Looks stronger,

00:31:51.359 --> 00:31:55.759
you know? I don't know. He's a higher volume.

00:31:56.779 --> 00:31:59.720
Yeah, higher volume, yeah. And you're right.

00:31:59.779 --> 00:32:03.000
He did go to war with fucking a one -armed Derevyanchenko.

00:32:04.140 --> 00:32:09.460
I mean, so... There's that. There is that. Great

00:32:09.460 --> 00:32:12.470
that Derevyanchenko hasn't... He's been knocked

00:32:12.470 --> 00:32:14.450
out, right? He's been knocked out by Moguia.

00:32:15.190 --> 00:32:19.750
He's not knocked out. Yeah, he... No, Derevyanchenko

00:32:19.750 --> 00:32:25.269
is, like, super tough. Yeah. So, I mean, it really

00:32:25.269 --> 00:32:29.509
depends on who you like more, you know? I think

00:32:29.509 --> 00:32:32.710
that's really what you gotta consider, you know?

00:32:32.789 --> 00:32:36.650
I like the guys equally. I think maybe N 'Billy

00:32:36.650 --> 00:32:40.750
can pull it off if... Yeah. His power is really

00:32:40.750 --> 00:32:44.809
what I think it is. A good fight to look at for

00:32:44.809 --> 00:32:48.230
both of these two is their fights with Carlos

00:32:48.230 --> 00:32:52.690
Gongora. Oh, yes. Because Mbili had a fucking

00:32:52.690 --> 00:33:00.109
war with Gongora. And it looks like Lester Martinez

00:33:00.109 --> 00:33:03.450
swept them. Yeah, looking at the scorecards.

00:33:03.710 --> 00:33:10.710
9 -1, 9 -1, and 10 -0. versus Bailey, he went

00:33:10.710 --> 00:33:13.069
to war with him. He was like, what? Wasn't it

00:33:13.069 --> 00:33:19.829
184? Do you have an 84 card? Uh... Don't buy

00:33:19.829 --> 00:33:30.349
me four. Let me check. Uh... Oh, shit. 918273.

00:33:32.190 --> 00:33:35.009
I'm not so... I don't know. From what I remember

00:33:35.009 --> 00:33:37.529
of that fight, those are... kind of a little

00:33:37.529 --> 00:33:39.529
wide if they don't really tell the story of what

00:33:39.529 --> 00:33:43.109
happened. Just my take. But still, if you want

00:33:43.109 --> 00:33:45.490
to do, for you, whoever's listening, you want

00:33:45.490 --> 00:33:48.190
to do some film study on these two, check out

00:33:48.190 --> 00:33:50.990
their Gungora fights. Gungora's super tough.

00:33:51.670 --> 00:33:55.250
Heavy, heavy hands, too. So, wow. Demonstrates

00:33:55.250 --> 00:33:58.869
Imbili's chin. I mean, look, look, Imbili...

00:33:58.869 --> 00:34:02.450
Imbili's without a tiger, too, so even if he

00:34:02.450 --> 00:34:03.869
wins, I mean, he's going to get kept back anyways.

00:34:04.250 --> 00:34:09.389
He'll be held back. Do it really? Yeah. Why is

00:34:09.389 --> 00:34:15.110
that? Because I'm a tiger. Oh, yeah, you're right.

00:34:16.670 --> 00:34:21.650
Either way, he's going to go far. Yeah, but as

00:34:21.650 --> 00:34:26.289
long as they let him out the damn stable. Or

00:34:26.289 --> 00:34:28.849
if they're willing to shell out to bring people

00:34:28.849 --> 00:34:33.849
to him. Yeah, that's true. And Provox, they're

00:34:33.849 --> 00:34:36.539
good about letting their guys go. When they,

00:34:36.539 --> 00:34:38.179
you know, when they quote -unquote graduate.

00:34:40.079 --> 00:34:41.619
Yeah, when they're ready, they'll put them out.

00:34:41.800 --> 00:34:44.159
Or when they want to get... When they need to

00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:47.500
fill in a fucking fight. There you go. Yeah.

00:34:49.179 --> 00:34:52.599
Anything more for Mbili Martinez? Final predictions?

00:34:53.519 --> 00:34:55.280
Damn good fight. That's what I'm predicting.

00:34:55.780 --> 00:35:00.559
If it's not a good fight, then box is it. I'm

00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:05.000
edging Martinez. Pause. I'm edging towards leaning

00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:07.460
towards Martinez on this one. Oh, absolutely.

00:35:07.980 --> 00:35:11.219
Is it because of that Roblox buff? Yeah. Yeah,

00:35:11.219 --> 00:35:13.219
no, I get it. I get it. Versus the Eye of the

00:35:13.219 --> 00:35:16.880
Tiger debuff. That's true. That's true. You know

00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:18.159
what? You might have just swung me to the other

00:35:18.159 --> 00:35:22.239
side. Because the Eye of the Tiger debuff goes

00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:33.469
crazy. Main event. Are you ready? Are you guys

00:35:33.469 --> 00:35:38.070
ready? Is Joshua ready? Canelo fucking Alvarez

00:35:38.070 --> 00:35:42.710
versus Terrence Bud Crawford. Terrence Allen

00:35:42.710 --> 00:35:48.190
Bud Crawford. Terrence Allen Bud Crawfish? Yep.

00:35:49.269 --> 00:35:56.170
Versus Plodnello. Oh, Josh, start us off here.

00:35:56.530 --> 00:36:00.090
Because you've got some heat. You've had heat

00:36:00.090 --> 00:36:03.599
before about Terrence Crawford. I've had heat

00:36:03.599 --> 00:36:07.019
before. Honestly, I think Canelo's diminished

00:36:07.019 --> 00:36:13.340
enough and Crawford is... He's not good enough

00:36:13.340 --> 00:36:15.760
to move up that many weight classes at once and

00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:19.900
win, but it'll be... It won't be boring. There's

00:36:19.900 --> 00:36:25.230
going to be a conclusive ending, hopefully. That

00:36:25.230 --> 00:36:27.670
being said, that was when I thought Crawford

00:36:27.670 --> 00:36:30.389
was in shape. Not the picture I've seen recently

00:36:30.389 --> 00:36:34.570
of him looking fat as shit. Well, simply send

00:36:34.570 --> 00:36:36.929
me the picture. Yeah, I want to see this. Hold

00:36:36.929 --> 00:36:41.190
on. I got to see. Did we find it? I saw it the

00:36:41.190 --> 00:36:44.829
other day in the chat. He looked ripped the other

00:36:44.829 --> 00:36:47.090
day. I'll tell you that, but I don't know. That

00:36:47.090 --> 00:36:50.590
looks like a... No, no, no. Not the edited one.

00:36:50.750 --> 00:36:55.179
Not the Photoshop one. Okay. Is that the one

00:36:55.179 --> 00:36:56.420
where he's hanging out with a kid or something

00:36:56.420 --> 00:36:58.599
like that? Yeah, he's hanging out with some guy,

00:36:58.699 --> 00:37:02.539
and he looks fat as fuck. Yeah, here it is. Let

00:37:02.539 --> 00:37:05.739
me see. This is a current pic here, the comparison

00:37:05.739 --> 00:37:08.800
of the current, like, meeting up with a guy in

00:37:08.800 --> 00:37:12.260
Vegas in chat, putting it in general. It just

00:37:12.260 --> 00:37:15.539
said, like, two days ago on the left. Oh, that's

00:37:15.539 --> 00:37:18.599
Ilya Teporia. That's the picture that everyone's

00:37:18.599 --> 00:37:23.320
talking about. Yeah, and I'm like, okay. If he

00:37:23.320 --> 00:37:25.599
looked ripped like he always does, okay, man.

00:37:25.739 --> 00:37:27.179
Like, you're showing up in shape. You're taking

00:37:27.179 --> 00:37:30.219
this shit serious. What is this? Looks like Steven

00:37:30.219 --> 00:37:32.539
Nelson. That's dad butt. What the fuck is this?

00:37:32.659 --> 00:37:35.840
What is this, bro? Like, listen, man. I get it.

00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:39.619
I get it. I get it. He's skilled. He definitely

00:37:39.619 --> 00:37:43.360
has the skills to be able to give Canelo at least

00:37:43.360 --> 00:37:46.980
a good run for his money. But looking like this,

00:37:47.119 --> 00:37:53.159
fuck no. Looking like Tim Bradley? Fuck no like

00:37:53.159 --> 00:37:56.039
timber at like you could confuse it for Tim Bradley.

00:37:58.039 --> 00:38:01.500
I Don't know dude that body type That is kind

00:38:01.500 --> 00:38:03.760
of you can see some flab on the other side. That's

00:38:03.760 --> 00:38:06.900
kind of crazy Doesn't the say like like it looks

00:38:06.900 --> 00:38:11.219
like he does look fat as shit for like It's like

00:38:11.219 --> 00:38:13.519
which is it? Which is it? You could see the airbrush

00:38:13.519 --> 00:38:18.639
on the other one Yeah, yeah like He's never been

00:38:18.639 --> 00:38:21.420
that ripped, but also I didn't expect him to

00:38:21.420 --> 00:38:24.219
be showing up with the keg. I was about to say,

00:38:24.320 --> 00:38:27.800
he's built like me right now. Yeah, I was about

00:38:27.800 --> 00:38:30.960
to say. If you're built like that, bro, goddamn.

00:38:31.659 --> 00:38:34.820
You could beat anybody up. What, like Terrence

00:38:34.820 --> 00:38:39.079
Crawford? Terrence Crawford, one week out. Fourth

00:38:39.079 --> 00:38:42.039
of July weekend, out on the lake. That looks

00:38:42.039 --> 00:38:45.969
good, bro. Yeah, like Crawford's had like three

00:38:45.969 --> 00:38:49.769
Cronas at this point. Yeah, maybe he was just

00:38:49.769 --> 00:38:51.849
out of shit ton of water. You never know. Could

00:38:51.849 --> 00:38:54.070
be. It could be water. You never know. It could

00:38:54.070 --> 00:38:55.949
also be like the lighting and shit, dude. We'll

00:38:55.949 --> 00:38:57.610
never know until the day they take off the shirts.

00:38:58.369 --> 00:39:01.510
Yeah, you know what? I think I'll die laughing

00:39:01.510 --> 00:39:03.469
if Crawford pulls up to the weigh -in with like

00:39:03.469 --> 00:39:07.329
a black t -shirt. He does the Andy Ruiz. Yeah,

00:39:07.329 --> 00:39:09.730
if that happens, yeah, it's cooked. Teddy Andy

00:39:09.730 --> 00:39:13.329
Ruiz, like black t -shirt at the weigh -in. I

00:39:13.329 --> 00:39:15.730
mean, not even that. If you look at his beard,

00:39:16.849 --> 00:39:20.289
if you look at his face, too, it does look pretty...

00:39:20.289 --> 00:39:25.730
Build -in? It doesn't look... It doesn't look

00:39:25.730 --> 00:39:29.030
like he put on some weight, yeah. It does look

00:39:29.030 --> 00:39:30.489
like he put on a little bit of weight, but I

00:39:30.489 --> 00:39:33.710
don't know. Does this make you want to change

00:39:33.710 --> 00:39:39.349
your roll color? No, because... No, no. I want...

00:39:39.349 --> 00:39:43.599
Stay on that side. You're really on the Canelo.

00:39:43.679 --> 00:39:45.579
That's crazy that fucking Josh hates Crawford

00:39:45.579 --> 00:39:49.820
so much he's on the Canelo side. That's pretty

00:39:49.820 --> 00:39:53.159
crazy. It's just, like, I'm using my brain, man.

00:39:53.219 --> 00:39:56.000
Like, this guy's going up basically three weight

00:39:56.000 --> 00:39:58.460
classes. That fight with Madrimov barely counts

00:39:58.460 --> 00:40:02.500
as, like, moving up to 154. I never said I want

00:40:02.500 --> 00:40:06.440
him. I never said I didn't think. I don't think

00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:10.679
he's going to win. I want him to win. I also

00:40:10.679 --> 00:40:15.840
hate him forever for ruining 147. Well, I guess

00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:17.739
boxing in general since you explained that in

00:40:17.739 --> 00:40:19.579
the other podcast. Yeah, I know. I already explained

00:40:19.579 --> 00:40:21.679
my conspiracy theory. I hate him forever for

00:40:21.679 --> 00:40:26.900
killing my sport. I mean, look. How the fuck

00:40:26.900 --> 00:40:30.280
do you... Okay, listen, man. How are you going

00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:35.619
to... At the same time that he was suing Top

00:40:35.619 --> 00:40:38.079
Rank for being racist to him, he signed the extension

00:40:38.079 --> 00:40:42.559
with them. Where's the logic? Okay, well, how

00:40:42.559 --> 00:40:46.360
can you correlate this with him being fat? I

00:40:46.360 --> 00:40:48.260
don't know. It's karma. It's going to be karma.

00:40:50.260 --> 00:40:54.940
Karmic justice, bro. You know what? The beef

00:40:54.940 --> 00:40:57.260
lard, the lard that people have been sneaking

00:40:57.260 --> 00:40:59.599
into his meals, maybe he's just been going out

00:40:59.599 --> 00:41:02.840
with BOMAC too much. Yeah, you're right. Maybe

00:41:02.840 --> 00:41:05.000
it's him and fucking Rick Lazor. It might be

00:41:05.000 --> 00:41:08.239
him. Bomek and Dan Raphael are doing this to

00:41:08.239 --> 00:41:10.500
him, bro. On that Netflix special, like the preview

00:41:10.500 --> 00:41:12.639
or whatever, like Fight Camp or whatever the

00:41:12.639 --> 00:41:16.880
fuck they're calling it, they had Bomek cooking

00:41:16.880 --> 00:41:20.400
a lot. Oh, God. Yeah, with what? Like beef tallow?

00:41:20.719 --> 00:41:25.280
Yeah, it's got to be. It's got to be. Instead

00:41:25.280 --> 00:41:29.300
of using the spray oil, they straight up rendered

00:41:29.300 --> 00:41:34.949
pork belly grease. Just scoop that shit out of

00:41:34.949 --> 00:41:38.889
the tin right into the pan. Yeah, right out of

00:41:38.889 --> 00:41:42.469
the tub. Extra, like, 6 ,000 calories on top

00:41:42.469 --> 00:41:44.590
of, like, the two eggs that Crawford had for

00:41:44.590 --> 00:41:52.210
breakfast. Dan Raphael comes over, like, hold

00:41:52.210 --> 00:41:57.010
on, bro, not enough. I need the octuple bypass.

00:41:58.000 --> 00:42:00.960
I need the octopal bypass. Yeah, they're in Vegas

00:42:00.960 --> 00:42:05.320
for this fight. Fuck, dude. Maybe they've been

00:42:05.320 --> 00:42:08.079
hitting the heart attack drill. Heart attack

00:42:08.079 --> 00:42:10.980
drill. Crazy. Maybe they've been hitting the

00:42:10.980 --> 00:42:13.800
heart attack drill. This fight is in Vegas. Well,

00:42:13.800 --> 00:42:15.280
Crawford did look like he didn't get spanked,

00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:22.320
so. He doesn't look good. I'll say that. Listen,

00:42:22.360 --> 00:42:26.119
man. The staff there is forklift certified to

00:42:26.119 --> 00:42:30.949
get rid of BOMAC. How many looks do you think

00:42:30.949 --> 00:42:33.070
it takes Bomack to get to the center of a 50

00:42:33.070 --> 00:42:37.570
pop? Fuck, dude. It's just a straight chomp.

00:42:38.789 --> 00:42:40.369
Dude, I don't know, man. You know what? I've

00:42:40.369 --> 00:42:42.469
never seen Dave Blunt and Bomack in the same

00:42:42.469 --> 00:42:45.929
room. That's true. That's all I'm going to say.

00:42:45.989 --> 00:42:48.309
I've never seen those two in the same room. I've

00:42:48.309 --> 00:42:50.889
never seen Lavelle Crawford and Bomack in the

00:42:50.889 --> 00:42:55.539
same room. Oh, man. Like, this picture, like,

00:42:55.599 --> 00:42:57.719
at first, I was like, ah, he'll be competitive.

00:42:57.800 --> 00:43:01.579
I'm gonna fucking hate it. And now I'm like,

00:43:01.579 --> 00:43:03.739
like, I'm happy, but I'm also like, wow, this

00:43:03.739 --> 00:43:06.000
is gonna be the biggest waste of money ever conceived.

00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:10.480
Well... Crawford's gonna show up fat as shit,

00:43:10.539 --> 00:43:12.260
and Canelo's gonna kill him, and then Crawford's

00:43:12.260 --> 00:43:15.039
gonna be like, ah, well, I was fat as shit, and

00:43:15.039 --> 00:43:17.320
out of my prime, I'm retiring as the greatest

00:43:17.320 --> 00:43:19.719
welterweight, whatever, whatever. Yeah, that's

00:43:19.719 --> 00:43:22.960
true. I mean, if he loses, if he loses... When

00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:26.829
he loses. If you... No, it's if. It's if. Because

00:43:26.829 --> 00:43:29.530
you're disregarding... Hold up. You're disregarding

00:43:29.530 --> 00:43:32.050
how washed Canelo is. You sound like my dad right

00:43:32.050 --> 00:43:34.130
now. Yeah, but Canelo's going to show up in shape,

00:43:34.250 --> 00:43:37.289
man. Yeah, I mean, he's going to show up in shape,

00:43:37.309 --> 00:43:42.429
but... Again, it all comes down to if Crawford

00:43:42.429 --> 00:43:45.550
can handle his punches. If he can, I think Crawford

00:43:45.550 --> 00:43:48.389
wins. If not, then Crawford loses. It's simple

00:43:48.389 --> 00:43:51.690
as that. I know if you look at it from purely

00:43:51.690 --> 00:43:54.829
from a skill skill wise cropper beast canelo

00:43:54.829 --> 00:43:58.150
100 everyday 100 no matter what it's like that

00:43:58.150 --> 00:43:59.809
dark string line you know there's only one way

00:43:59.809 --> 00:44:01.750
to win that one way for pinnacle to win skill

00:44:01.750 --> 00:44:04.909
wise by shooting cropper with a gun oh my god

00:44:04.909 --> 00:44:08.110
that's it what you okay you you can't you can't

00:44:08.110 --> 00:44:11.409
tell me i don't think i don't know man i'm not

00:44:11.409 --> 00:44:13.409
saying i'm not saying skills wise at the moment

00:44:13.409 --> 00:44:17.070
i'm saying boxing wise it's not just skills bro

00:44:17.070 --> 00:44:20.800
you're bad You're bad. Boxing isn't just skills.

00:44:21.159 --> 00:44:24.579
You're bad. If it was skills, oddly, Harrison

00:44:24.579 --> 00:44:27.980
would still be the undisputed champion at heavyweight.

00:44:28.119 --> 00:44:32.159
Still. That's a wild thing to say. We'd have

00:44:32.159 --> 00:44:34.579
guys like David Price actually winning fights.

00:44:35.460 --> 00:44:39.840
You really think that Canelo has better skills

00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:43.019
than Crawford? No, I'm saying Canelo has other

00:44:43.019 --> 00:44:47.219
factors, including being in shape. And not...

00:44:47.500 --> 00:44:54.239
not having BOMAC cook for him. Power? Like, power

00:44:54.239 --> 00:45:00.500
and strength? Honestly, you can argue timing,

00:45:00.619 --> 00:45:04.579
and that's about it. Timing? And if Crawford

00:45:04.579 --> 00:45:09.039
shows up on the BOMAC diet like we've been seeing,

00:45:09.099 --> 00:45:14.019
honestly, watch speed be an issue. I mean, if

00:45:14.019 --> 00:45:18.030
BOMAC... If little Bumac over here, Bumac Jr.,

00:45:18.030 --> 00:45:22.570
turns into Crawford this week, I think he'll

00:45:22.570 --> 00:45:29.130
be good. I think he can win in the eyes of the

00:45:29.130 --> 00:45:30.869
audience, but there's no way he's going to win

00:45:30.869 --> 00:45:33.409
against Canelo with a four -fight deal with Turkey.

00:45:33.630 --> 00:45:35.829
Yeah, there's no way. There's no way. It's a

00:45:35.829 --> 00:45:38.449
kangaroo court fight. I'm more looking forward

00:45:38.449 --> 00:45:42.269
to that Bester Martinez fight. I'm more nervous.

00:45:44.159 --> 00:45:46.980
For the Martinez. Just because I already know

00:45:46.980 --> 00:45:48.360
how the Canelo Crawford fight is going to go.

00:45:48.699 --> 00:45:50.820
Unless Crawford knocks out Canelo. Which would

00:45:50.820 --> 00:45:53.619
be crazy. I think I'm going to die laughing if

00:45:53.619 --> 00:45:56.139
Crawford tries to do the black shirt trick and

00:45:56.139 --> 00:46:00.340
then gets knocked out. I think I might die laughing.

00:46:02.179 --> 00:46:04.119
I'm really eager to see what they look like at

00:46:04.119 --> 00:46:06.739
the weigh -in. Yeah, I really want to see this

00:46:06.739 --> 00:46:08.659
weigh -in. Because I know Canelo is going to

00:46:08.659 --> 00:46:12.050
be in shape. If it turns out Crawford's been

00:46:12.050 --> 00:46:14.289
in, like, that Jake Paul fat suit all along.

00:46:16.110 --> 00:46:19.869
I mean, look. Like, it's comedy. I love it. I'm

00:46:19.869 --> 00:46:21.750
just telling you, one thing I noticed from Canelo,

00:46:21.849 --> 00:46:25.150
he is taking this fight 100 % seriously. Oh,

00:46:25.150 --> 00:46:27.550
yeah. Well, because this is basically his entire

00:46:27.550 --> 00:46:31.929
legacy. He's like, fuck, dude. He loses to Crawford

00:46:31.929 --> 00:46:34.590
after fighting, like, fucking Berlanga and Munguia.

00:46:34.690 --> 00:46:38.250
Like, come on. Yeah, that legacy is going to

00:46:38.250 --> 00:46:40.300
get wiped. It's like... His whole career has

00:46:40.300 --> 00:46:45.440
been built towards Crawford. This is his Mayweather

00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:47.539
moment. This is his Mayweather -Canelo moment,

00:46:47.699 --> 00:46:53.260
basically. Yeah. Yeah, 100%. If Canelo loses

00:46:53.260 --> 00:46:56.480
to Crawford, that diminishes Canelo's legacy.

00:46:58.400 --> 00:47:03.260
I hate Crawford enough to say Canelo was never

00:47:03.260 --> 00:47:09.170
good. I've already prepared the coat. i always

00:47:09.170 --> 00:47:12.650
knew he was a bum the cope is in like i do i

00:47:12.650 --> 00:47:15.469
always knew he was on steroids and the bum and

00:47:15.469 --> 00:47:18.170
his coach sucks and you know he hurt his knee

00:47:18.170 --> 00:47:22.550
like six years ago and uh you know berlanga really

00:47:22.550 --> 00:47:24.510
took it out of him so it was like loosening the

00:47:24.510 --> 00:47:28.010
pickle jar you know oh the pickle jar theory

00:47:28.010 --> 00:47:36.570
yeah exactly I have all the excuses, dude. Like

00:47:36.570 --> 00:47:39.429
Crawford was on. BOMAC was putting steroids and

00:47:39.429 --> 00:47:41.889
like human growth hormone into those like 6 ,000

00:47:41.889 --> 00:47:47.969
calorie breakfasts. I think my only role is going

00:47:47.969 --> 00:47:50.989
to be your hater. That's just hate, dude. Oh,

00:47:50.989 --> 00:47:53.389
yeah. That's pure hating, dude. That's worse

00:47:53.389 --> 00:47:56.369
than like dokes, bro. Yeah. Do you think normal

00:47:56.369 --> 00:47:59.329
people who don't hate have excuses lined up at

00:47:59.329 --> 00:48:03.170
the ass? No, I mean, you're not wrong. I was

00:48:03.170 --> 00:48:04.909
going to say, you're not wrong. I was going to

00:48:04.909 --> 00:48:08.690
say, you think a normal, well -adjusted person

00:48:08.690 --> 00:48:13.150
has excuses? Like, come on. Like, come on. This

00:48:13.150 --> 00:48:16.650
is obviously the work of a hater. I'm just saying,

00:48:16.690 --> 00:48:19.250
dude, you got to see greatness. If it happens,

00:48:19.409 --> 00:48:23.630
you got to see that that man is great. It is

00:48:23.630 --> 00:48:25.550
going to make him a proper win. It is going to

00:48:25.550 --> 00:48:26.969
make him probably one of the greatest fighters

00:48:26.969 --> 00:48:30.110
of all time. In my opinion. I gotta make, like,

00:48:30.210 --> 00:48:32.230
six calls. I gotta make, like, eight Twitter

00:48:32.230 --> 00:48:36.190
burners to be like, Turkey, please. Turkey, please,

00:48:36.469 --> 00:48:40.710
like, bring me, like, bring me Benavidez to kill

00:48:40.710 --> 00:48:45.570
this man. If that happens, it's gonna be crazy.

00:48:46.869 --> 00:48:49.070
That's not gonna happen, though. It's not happening.

00:48:49.190 --> 00:48:52.210
Bring me Benavidez Virgil or Boots to strike

00:48:52.210 --> 00:48:56.210
this man down. That's not happening. No, I know.

00:48:56.309 --> 00:48:58.449
He's going to retire. He's going to be like,

00:48:58.449 --> 00:49:01.690
I'm the greatest. He's going to retire. He's

00:49:01.690 --> 00:49:03.730
going to do a Kevin Durant and just argue with

00:49:03.730 --> 00:49:07.210
people on Twitter forever. I mean, we'll at least

00:49:07.210 --> 00:49:12.630
know his greatness if he wins. No wife, no kids.

00:49:12.889 --> 00:49:14.570
He's just going to argue with people on Twitter

00:49:14.570 --> 00:49:18.570
until the end of his days. Well, no. Terrence

00:49:18.570 --> 00:49:21.969
Crawford has seven kids. Two baby moms with seven

00:49:21.969 --> 00:49:24.940
kids. Okay, so he'll be back at age 40 to lose.

00:49:25.480 --> 00:49:29.179
Yeah. That's not that far away. Yeah. Fuck, dude.

00:49:29.199 --> 00:49:34.800
He's almost 40. He'll be back to get knocked

00:49:34.800 --> 00:49:38.239
out by Jake Paul then in like eight years. So,

00:49:38.239 --> 00:49:41.420
you know what? I can wait. That's true. I can

00:49:41.420 --> 00:49:44.860
wait. Crazy. I can wait. That's some serious

00:49:44.860 --> 00:49:48.179
hating. That is serious hater. Always. Always.

00:49:48.719 --> 00:49:52.099
You hate him that much? Biding my time until

00:49:52.099 --> 00:49:57.380
Jake Paul takes him out in 10 years. In 30 years

00:49:57.380 --> 00:49:59.219
when they talk about the history books and we

00:49:59.219 --> 00:50:01.579
talk about Crawford. I'm going to be like, fuck

00:50:01.579 --> 00:50:04.440
no, you lost to Jake Paul. No, you're going to

00:50:04.440 --> 00:50:06.739
be a Crawford lover in the future. Oh, I watched

00:50:06.739 --> 00:50:09.659
him on his way up. I was there the whole way.

00:50:09.679 --> 00:50:11.420
I was there when he fought Madrimov. I supported

00:50:11.420 --> 00:50:14.300
him when he fought Canelo. He won. You're going

00:50:14.300 --> 00:50:15.300
to be saying all that bullshit. No, I'm going

00:50:15.300 --> 00:50:17.119
to be the one. I'll be like, fuck, though. He

00:50:17.119 --> 00:50:19.579
lost to Jake Paul. Jake Paul is the greatest

00:50:19.579 --> 00:50:23.059
of all time. Only boxer to beat world champions

00:50:23.059 --> 00:50:26.260
from like six different decades. In multiple

00:50:26.260 --> 00:50:28.719
sports. That is so hateful. Well, you're not

00:50:28.719 --> 00:50:29.639
going to be able to say that because it's an

00:50:29.639 --> 00:50:33.800
exhibition, so. But Jake Paul, I'm going to say

00:50:33.800 --> 00:50:38.059
Jake Paul beat champions in multiple sports in

00:50:38.059 --> 00:50:44.670
like six different decades. Well. Robert's still

00:50:44.670 --> 00:50:46.989
going to beat Canelo. If he beats Canelo, you're

00:50:46.989 --> 00:50:49.389
going to have to bite your words. Bite your tongue.

00:50:49.510 --> 00:50:53.230
No. I'm going to wait. You're fine. You're going

00:50:53.230 --> 00:50:55.489
to be fine. It's not going to happen. I'm just

00:50:55.489 --> 00:50:59.489
going to wait. I'm going to wait. History. I'm

00:50:59.489 --> 00:51:03.570
going to be the historian revising history, being

00:51:03.570 --> 00:51:06.429
like, this guy was terrible. This era was the

00:51:06.429 --> 00:51:09.570
weakest of all time, like the 80s. I'll tell

00:51:09.570 --> 00:51:11.130
you this. I'll tell you this. Let me ask you

00:51:11.130 --> 00:51:13.130
this. Let me give you a scenario. What if...

00:51:13.480 --> 00:51:15.420
Canelo robs Crawford on the cards. What are you

00:51:15.420 --> 00:51:17.260
going to say? Are you still going to be happy?

00:51:18.860 --> 00:51:21.280
If Canelo robs Crawford on the cards, I'm going

00:51:21.280 --> 00:51:24.079
to be happy. So you'll be happy with the robbery?

00:51:24.880 --> 00:51:27.159
Yeah, because I'm just going to... You're not

00:51:27.159 --> 00:51:31.239
much of a hater. Listen, man. I've excused shit

00:51:31.239 --> 00:51:33.099
with Lawrence or Coley. This was not the first

00:51:33.099 --> 00:51:39.360
time. That's fucking nuts, dude. Everybody calling

00:51:39.360 --> 00:51:42.159
in, tell them how nuts he is. 8 -3 -3. Excuse

00:51:42.159 --> 00:51:46.159
me, Lawrence Okoli. Lux Potts. Lawrence Okoli?

00:51:46.900 --> 00:51:48.739
Actually, that's a little mean. That's a little

00:51:48.739 --> 00:51:51.199
mean, Crawford, comparing him to Lawrence Okoli.

00:51:51.539 --> 00:51:54.260
That's fucking nuts. That's like the lowest common

00:51:54.260 --> 00:51:57.599
denominator, dude. That is horrible. Yeah, I'm

00:51:57.599 --> 00:52:00.860
sorry. I'm sorry, Crawford. Lawrence Okoli, that's

00:52:00.860 --> 00:52:03.360
too much. To me, that's like a slur, bro. You

00:52:03.360 --> 00:52:05.920
just said it like a slur. That's pretty bad,

00:52:05.980 --> 00:52:09.260
dude. That's too much. That's why I'm bad. That's

00:52:09.260 --> 00:52:11.679
like, you're like a hater, but that's just like

00:52:11.679 --> 00:52:15.300
borderline, like, that's like being racist, bro.

00:52:15.380 --> 00:52:17.139
I'm not even lying. That's like being racist.

00:52:18.019 --> 00:52:20.059
Actually, you guys see the clip of Clarissa Shields

00:52:20.059 --> 00:52:24.320
admitting that Canelo's going to win? No, I haven't.

00:52:24.579 --> 00:52:27.119
No, yeah, I haven't. All right, let me send it.

00:52:27.199 --> 00:52:32.389
I just saw it before the podcast started. Well,

00:52:32.389 --> 00:52:34.070
where's the Senate and I definitely have to believe

00:52:34.070 --> 00:52:41.929
it Yeah, the Freudian slip late buzz that I Mean

00:52:41.929 --> 00:52:43.690
I think we all know what's gonna happen. We all

00:52:43.690 --> 00:52:46.369
know Canelo's gonna win cuz Well, we're not gonna

00:52:46.369 --> 00:52:49.369
knock him out Listen, man, if he does I'll be

00:52:49.369 --> 00:52:51.909
surprised Listen, man, I'm going to pray on my

00:52:51.909 --> 00:52:54.230
hands and knees that Canelo gets a knockout because

00:52:54.230 --> 00:52:57.289
literally at this point with Canelo's career,

00:52:57.449 --> 00:52:59.789
he does need God himself in his corner to help

00:52:59.789 --> 00:53:03.309
him knock the guy out, apparently. Not this guy.

00:53:03.909 --> 00:53:06.510
I mean, he's too... If he can't knock out a guy

00:53:06.510 --> 00:53:08.489
that's three -way classes low... Listen, man,

00:53:08.550 --> 00:53:11.969
God is on the side of the... God is on the side

00:53:11.969 --> 00:53:13.949
of the righteous, which is to say not Terrence

00:53:13.949 --> 00:53:18.110
Crawford. That doesn't mean Canelo's righteous

00:53:18.110 --> 00:53:22.360
either, necessarily. Yeah, no, I'm not trying

00:53:22.360 --> 00:53:24.440
to hate on Canelo. I think Canelo can beat him.

00:53:25.780 --> 00:53:28.139
All he can beat him with is his power, that's

00:53:28.139 --> 00:53:31.639
it. If Crawford doesn't feel his power at all,

00:53:31.760 --> 00:53:37.420
then Canelo's in for a long night. As long as

00:53:37.420 --> 00:53:39.039
Crawford comes in shape, though. If not, then

00:53:39.039 --> 00:53:41.480
he's fucked. Yeah, if we get fatty Crawford,

00:53:41.579 --> 00:53:44.400
I'm gonna die laughing. He could be in shape,

00:53:44.480 --> 00:53:46.679
he's just a little flabby. You know, like he's

00:53:46.679 --> 00:53:51.179
in cardiovascular shape. Magic proper is overweight,

00:53:51.400 --> 00:53:57.079
bro. That'd be fucking crazy. You go up 20 pounds,

00:53:57.280 --> 00:54:00.920
you have to miss more fucking weight. Oh, we're

00:54:00.920 --> 00:54:04.239
talking about the Zerto strategy now. At that

00:54:04.239 --> 00:54:12.059
point, yeah. Yeah, you're right. You gotta give

00:54:12.059 --> 00:54:15.920
some insight, dude. I know. I've been enjoying

00:54:15.920 --> 00:54:23.210
it. This one is tough because Canelo does have

00:54:23.210 --> 00:54:30.489
a lot more miles on the odometer. Oh, yeah. And

00:54:30.489 --> 00:54:35.690
my thinking is that it's going to be Terrence

00:54:35.690 --> 00:54:37.909
Crawford pot -shotting. He's just going to be

00:54:37.909 --> 00:54:40.889
staying out of range because why would you stand

00:54:40.889 --> 00:54:44.710
in front of the naturally bigger guy? It doesn't

00:54:44.710 --> 00:54:52.710
make any sense. The only thing, and this is a

00:54:52.710 --> 00:54:54.650
question mark, this is a good one that Nathan

00:54:54.650 --> 00:54:56.309
actually brought up when we were talking about

00:54:56.309 --> 00:55:04.050
it on Ultimate Casuals. It was Canelo has the

00:55:04.050 --> 00:55:07.550
tendency to come forward, and Terrence Crawford

00:55:07.550 --> 00:55:11.369
has a tendency to counterpunch. Now, if he decides

00:55:11.369 --> 00:55:15.710
to stay in the pocket and try to counterpunch

00:55:15.710 --> 00:55:18.639
there, Then it comes to the question of does,

00:55:18.760 --> 00:55:22.739
you know, is Canelo's power too much? And then

00:55:22.739 --> 00:55:26.019
he gets on his bike. Or does he decide to go

00:55:26.019 --> 00:55:32.440
for it anyway? I don't know. But I'm a lot more

00:55:32.440 --> 00:55:35.579
eager to see it now with the possibility of Crawford

00:55:35.579 --> 00:55:38.480
counterpunching. Like, I think Shakur versus

00:55:38.480 --> 00:55:44.940
William Zepeda. Oh, Jesus. Shakur? Okay. I mean

00:55:44.940 --> 00:55:48.230
that, like. Sort of positioning and counter -punching.

00:55:49.969 --> 00:55:53.329
No, I get you. Staying up close. Up close and

00:55:53.329 --> 00:55:55.469
personal. Staying in the water while not getting

00:55:55.469 --> 00:56:02.210
wet? Yes, exactly. I get you. I don't think it's

00:56:02.210 --> 00:56:03.230
going to be like that. I think it's going to

00:56:03.230 --> 00:56:06.070
be exactly like how Terrence Crawford fought

00:56:06.070 --> 00:56:12.610
Israel Matrimonial. Just box around? Yeah, box

00:56:12.610 --> 00:56:17.849
around. The thing is that I just think Canelo's

00:56:17.849 --> 00:56:20.429
a little smarter than Madrimov is. So some of

00:56:20.429 --> 00:56:23.349
the shit that Madrimov was setting up and hitting

00:56:23.349 --> 00:56:26.130
Crawford with is going to be... It's not just

00:56:26.130 --> 00:56:27.929
going to be forward aggression. It's going to

00:56:27.929 --> 00:56:31.170
be a counterpunch coming at Crawford with better

00:56:31.170 --> 00:56:35.190
timing. That's not even hate. Canelo being better

00:56:35.190 --> 00:56:38.429
than Madrimov should not be hate. No, that's

00:56:38.429 --> 00:56:40.210
not hate at all. I just think it's a different

00:56:40.210 --> 00:56:43.690
kind of heat that Crawford's going to face because

00:56:43.690 --> 00:56:47.349
it's not like Canelo's dumb. He sets up his shots

00:56:47.349 --> 00:56:49.329
good. It's just they're going to be single shots.

00:56:49.869 --> 00:56:52.289
One thing about Canelo, and I want to add on

00:56:52.289 --> 00:56:54.949
to this before I forget, he has really good feints.

00:56:55.590 --> 00:56:58.989
Yeah, like he sets up traps very nicely. Yeah.

00:57:01.519 --> 00:57:04.119
Honestly, I can see Crawford getting knocked

00:57:04.119 --> 00:57:06.380
down. I kind of want to predict that. I think

00:57:06.380 --> 00:57:08.099
I am going to predict that actually Crawford

00:57:08.099 --> 00:57:14.179
is going to get knocked down at least once. Terrence

00:57:14.179 --> 00:57:19.460
Crawford has insane fight IQ and Bomek is an

00:57:19.460 --> 00:57:23.599
excellent trainer or an excellent coach. It's

00:57:23.599 --> 00:57:28.860
definitely just an IQ battle. And Canelo's not...

00:57:28.860 --> 00:57:35.000
He's not... ring IQ dumb yeah no I mean you know

00:57:35.000 --> 00:57:38.280
you're right he's not dumb same time though Crawford's

00:57:38.280 --> 00:57:41.260
not dumb either he's very fucking smart I would

00:57:41.260 --> 00:57:50.199
give the edge of ring IQ to Bud Bud yes I would

00:57:50.199 --> 00:57:53.440
say he has a slightly better ring IQ than Canelo

00:57:53.440 --> 00:58:00.150
does oh yeah thank you very much It's hard to

00:58:00.150 --> 00:58:05.250
pick. Genuinely, it's up to the weigh -in. They're

00:58:05.250 --> 00:58:09.710
close enough. He's flabby as fuck. If he's flabby

00:58:09.710 --> 00:58:11.869
as fuck, he just can't get on his bike. It's

00:58:11.869 --> 00:58:16.570
not happening. You can't even get on the bike,

00:58:16.610 --> 00:58:20.269
bro. The bike is falling apart at the wheels,

00:58:20.349 --> 00:58:21.809
bro. You're going to have to air up the tires

00:58:21.809 --> 00:58:28.130
quite a few times. If Crowder really seriously

00:58:28.130 --> 00:58:29.969
comes in fucking overweight, there's a serious

00:58:29.969 --> 00:58:33.530
problem that can with being overweight. That's

00:58:33.530 --> 00:58:39.289
not even a joke. Fucking BOMAC, bro. That already

00:58:39.289 --> 00:58:44.230
broke my heart. I always think of him. Anytime

00:58:44.230 --> 00:58:46.510
I hear his name, I hear BOMAC. I think of that

00:58:46.510 --> 00:58:51.650
one shot of him in the locker room with a family

00:58:51.650 --> 00:58:55.960
-sized bag of Cheetos. That's probably pretty

00:58:55.960 --> 00:58:58.780
fucking crazy, bro. Yeah, and he's just, like,

00:58:58.820 --> 00:59:04.159
wolfing them down. Like, damn, dude. Uncle Bomek,

00:59:04.360 --> 00:59:14.219
we need to talk. Yep. Oh, shit, man. What are

00:59:14.219 --> 00:59:19.119
you guys' final predictions? Canelo, stoppage,

00:59:19.119 --> 00:59:23.539
ninth round. Ninth round. It's gotta be late.

00:59:24.170 --> 00:59:28.190
It's going to be late. Instead of fish fry. I

00:59:28.190 --> 00:59:33.489
mean, honestly, I disagree. I think, honestly,

00:59:33.809 --> 00:59:38.250
who knows who's going to win, I think. But it's

00:59:38.250 --> 00:59:40.389
going to be via robbery. If it makes it to the

00:59:40.389 --> 00:59:43.690
distance, Crawford's going to beat him to the

00:59:43.690 --> 00:59:47.230
eyes of the public. But we all know how boxing

00:59:47.230 --> 00:59:51.250
works. It ain't no secret that they like to fucking

00:59:51.250 --> 00:59:56.210
screw people over. Yeah. You know what I mean?

00:59:57.130 --> 01:00:00.789
Yeah, I was saving my role selection until...

01:00:00.789 --> 01:00:04.449
Talk to Shanada already about this. She's not

01:00:04.449 --> 01:00:07.510
too excited about this fight. Just thinking it's

01:00:07.510 --> 01:00:10.090
going to be Canelo a little too slow to keep

01:00:10.090 --> 01:00:13.889
up. And Crawford just pot -shotting on his bike.

01:00:16.389 --> 01:00:22.960
Isaac is riding with Canelo. I don't remember

01:00:22.960 --> 01:00:27.679
Nathan picking, but he was the one who told me

01:00:27.679 --> 01:00:32.280
about the in -the -pocket verse. Out of the pocket.

01:00:33.559 --> 01:00:36.440
I think I should cut in the Jeopardy music here,

01:00:36.559 --> 01:00:39.480
because I have no fucking idea who to pick. I

01:00:39.480 --> 01:00:42.679
just keep thinking that it's going to be Canelo

01:00:42.679 --> 01:00:47.099
is going to wear down Crawford, and it's going

01:00:47.099 --> 01:00:53.150
to be enough to wear its... He's not going to

01:00:53.150 --> 01:00:55.429
be able to bike and he's going to get caught.

01:00:56.989 --> 01:01:02.429
And he's moving up 20 pounds. He could even give

01:01:02.429 --> 01:01:08.710
him, say, 14. But I don't know, man. I'm thinking

01:01:08.710 --> 01:01:13.170
Canelo's going to take it. I would not be shocked

01:01:13.170 --> 01:01:15.090
with a Crawford win. If anybody's going to be

01:01:15.090 --> 01:01:19.829
able to outfox Canelo, it's Terrence fucking

01:01:19.829 --> 01:01:26.780
Crawford. I'm not even saying we are, like, I'm

01:01:26.780 --> 01:01:29.440
a hater, but I wouldn't be surprised. I'm just

01:01:29.440 --> 01:01:31.679
a hater, straight up. I wouldn't be surprised.

01:01:33.219 --> 01:01:35.780
This dude loves to hate. It's not impossible.

01:01:35.880 --> 01:01:39.739
I just hate Crawford that much. Because, yeah,

01:01:40.179 --> 01:01:44.619
Terrence Crawford is, like, right now one of

01:01:44.619 --> 01:01:48.679
the highest ring IQs in the sport, but that isn't

01:01:48.679 --> 01:01:51.829
to say that. Canelo doesn't have a very good

01:01:51.829 --> 01:01:55.590
ring IQ of his own. And again, it's just a size

01:01:55.590 --> 01:01:59.409
disparity. A good big guy always beats a good

01:01:59.409 --> 01:02:01.829
little guy. So when the disparity is that small

01:02:01.829 --> 01:02:07.989
in their IQs, does it matter? Yeah, but like

01:02:07.989 --> 01:02:10.989
I said, if anyone can do it, Crawford with BOMAC

01:02:10.989 --> 01:02:15.139
in his corner. Fair enough. Again, I want to

01:02:15.139 --> 01:02:17.980
see the win. I need to see if Crawford shows

01:02:17.980 --> 01:02:25.000
up fat as shit. I would lose a lot of faith in

01:02:25.000 --> 01:02:28.199
Crawford. I would die laughing. I think I'd keep

01:02:28.199 --> 01:02:34.780
laughing until the next day. Oh, man. Saul, what

01:02:34.780 --> 01:02:37.940
are you going to do? What would happen if Terrence

01:02:37.940 --> 01:02:41.800
Crawford shows up fat as fuck? I mean, I already

01:02:41.800 --> 01:02:45.219
expect him to win, but I mean... It's not really

01:02:45.219 --> 01:02:47.099
going to change my opinion much. I'm just like,

01:02:47.159 --> 01:02:50.960
damn, he's bad as fuck. Alright. That's really

01:02:50.960 --> 01:02:56.440
it. I'm like, damn. That's a big old boy. That's

01:02:56.440 --> 01:02:59.380
a big fella right there. You know, I mean, that's

01:02:59.380 --> 01:03:01.440
all you can really do is just be like, damn.

01:03:02.039 --> 01:03:03.559
I'm basically sad because I've been anticipating

01:03:03.559 --> 01:03:07.300
it for a while, but it's like, I kind of, I mean,

01:03:07.320 --> 01:03:08.920
seeing that picture, I'm already mentally prepared

01:03:08.920 --> 01:03:14.889
for that to happen anyways. Yeah. Yeah. I'm hopeful

01:03:14.889 --> 01:03:19.369
it was Waterweight. I think it's Waterweight,

01:03:19.409 --> 01:03:21.369
too. It doesn't look like he's flabby, like he's

01:03:21.369 --> 01:03:27.110
fat, but he doesn't look cut. One thing I will

01:03:27.110 --> 01:03:30.150
say, because I know that Josh said that he doesn't

01:03:30.150 --> 01:03:32.929
think the fight's going to be boring. I think

01:03:32.929 --> 01:03:34.650
there's a very big possibility that fight is

01:03:34.650 --> 01:03:36.969
going to be boring just because of... Crawford

01:03:36.969 --> 01:03:40.010
doesn't have that. You know what? I will say

01:03:40.010 --> 01:03:44.039
that the Crawford hate is all personal. As a

01:03:44.039 --> 01:03:50.099
boxer, he's rather fun to watch. He's not the

01:03:50.099 --> 01:03:53.820
one that's going to stink it out. I mean, Kittle's

01:03:53.820 --> 01:03:56.699
never been able to run in his career. That's

01:03:56.699 --> 01:03:58.760
what I mean. It's not going to be Crawford who

01:03:58.760 --> 01:04:04.239
stinks it out, really. Again, he's nothing but

01:04:04.239 --> 01:04:08.920
stoppages until Madrimov, since he was at 140,

01:04:09.340 --> 01:04:17.099
basically. He went 2016 to 2024 with all stoppages.

01:04:18.199 --> 01:04:22.239
How many fights per year? Honestly, it was a

01:04:22.239 --> 01:04:27.260
decent clip. He went 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8,

01:04:27.380 --> 01:04:32.820
9, 10, 11. He had 11 knockouts in a row. In 8

01:04:32.820 --> 01:04:38.579
years? Yeah. And the decisions were not boring

01:04:38.579 --> 01:04:43.710
either. Yeah, I mean, hey. The Postol fight was

01:04:43.710 --> 01:04:48.869
not competitive. He went down twice. Crawford

01:04:48.869 --> 01:04:51.289
beat the fuck out of him, and Crawford had a

01:04:51.289 --> 01:04:55.590
good fight with Madrimov. And Hank beat the shit

01:04:55.590 --> 01:04:58.969
out of Hank Lundy. You know what? I'll say what

01:04:58.969 --> 01:05:02.650
you will about a lot of the quality of the opponent,

01:05:02.889 --> 01:05:05.889
but at least he's not like Shakur, where he's

01:05:05.889 --> 01:05:09.010
like, guess what? You're so grossly inferior

01:05:09.010 --> 01:05:11.409
to me, but I'm never going to stop you. In a

01:05:11.409 --> 01:05:14.190
million years. I don't want to stop you. I'm

01:05:14.190 --> 01:05:16.530
good. It's not going to happen. I'm not even

01:05:16.530 --> 01:05:21.889
going to try to stop you. Crawford goes for it.

01:05:21.969 --> 01:05:26.510
He has enough pride to go for it. At least he

01:05:26.510 --> 01:05:28.630
gave him his flowers. I'm giving him his flowers.

01:05:28.849 --> 01:05:30.750
Again, as a boxer, I'll give him his flowers

01:05:30.750 --> 01:05:36.969
all day. As a person and as a influencer of the

01:05:36.969 --> 01:05:40.719
sport. representative of the sport? Fuck no.

01:05:42.380 --> 01:05:46.119
This guy's a cancer on the sport. So, like, I

01:05:46.119 --> 01:05:48.280
think I can be fair in that way, where, like,

01:05:48.280 --> 01:05:51.500
as an ambassador of the sport, like, hell no.

01:05:53.239 --> 01:05:54.579
So what are you going to do with Cropper Wins?

01:05:56.239 --> 01:05:58.559
I'm going to, again, I'm going to wait 10 years,

01:05:58.599 --> 01:06:00.400
and then we'll have this conversation when Jake

01:06:00.400 --> 01:06:08.800
Paul beats him. Quality hate only. We'll revisit

01:06:08.800 --> 01:06:10.219
this. They'll be like, what about when he beat

01:06:10.219 --> 01:06:12.000
Canelo? And I'm like, oh yeah, what about when

01:06:12.000 --> 01:06:15.659
Jake Paul beat Prime Crawford? Prime Crawford's

01:06:15.659 --> 01:06:18.179
crazy. Prime Crawford's not in his prime right

01:06:18.179 --> 01:06:20.000
now, but you know what? He is in his prime. Jake

01:06:20.000 --> 01:06:23.460
Paul was out of his prime when he beat a prime

01:06:23.460 --> 01:06:31.619
Terrence Crawford. The level of hate. Yeah, that's

01:06:31.619 --> 01:06:34.000
what I mean. That's what I'm going to say. I'm

01:06:34.000 --> 01:06:36.500
just going to play the long game. You know, I'm

01:06:36.500 --> 01:06:38.280
still going to be around in 10 years, but the

01:06:38.280 --> 01:06:40.599
new boxing fans in 10 years will not have watched

01:06:40.599 --> 01:06:43.099
these fights because boxing fans don't watch

01:06:43.099 --> 01:06:46.780
fights. Come on. Yeah. They look a box wreck.

01:06:47.579 --> 01:06:48.780
I'm going to be able to argue. Are you supposed

01:06:48.780 --> 01:06:51.460
to follow the sport? That's how I'm going to

01:06:51.460 --> 01:06:54.679
be saying this. As someone who did actually watch

01:06:54.679 --> 01:06:56.579
Crawford, I'm going to get to discredit him all

01:06:56.579 --> 01:07:01.099
day. Okay. I'm going to say, watch the fights.

01:07:01.219 --> 01:07:02.760
Watch the fights. And no one's ever going to

01:07:02.760 --> 01:07:09.519
watch them. They're never going to know I'm bullshitting.

01:07:10.480 --> 01:07:16.460
You just got to play the long game. I was going

01:07:16.460 --> 01:07:17.940
to say, no one's going to watch this shit in

01:07:17.940 --> 01:07:19.420
10 years. I'm going to get to say what I want.

01:07:21.699 --> 01:07:23.199
No one's going to watch this fucking show in

01:07:23.199 --> 01:07:25.199
10 years if nobody wants to watch the sport.

01:07:26.639 --> 01:07:28.340
No, we're going to have our... I'm going to make

01:07:28.340 --> 01:07:32.019
my kids watch this fucking show. We're going

01:07:32.019 --> 01:07:34.699
to have at least two viewers. All right, there

01:07:34.699 --> 01:07:37.780
you go. And they're going to be told Terrence

01:07:37.780 --> 01:07:39.800
Crawford. Well, Terrence Crawford was a fraud

01:07:39.800 --> 01:07:43.500
who lost to Jake Ball. I guess I got to argue

01:07:43.500 --> 01:07:47.599
with him, too. There you go. Generational beef

01:07:47.599 --> 01:07:51.119
over Terrence Crawford is crazy. I have to. You're

01:07:51.119 --> 01:07:53.559
already setting him up. I already said that.

01:07:53.840 --> 01:07:55.659
Listen, man, that's how much I hate this guy.

01:07:56.380 --> 01:08:00.519
I got to try to counterbalance. Yeah. Oh, my

01:08:00.519 --> 01:08:03.590
God. You know, I think, yeah, I'm not even that

01:08:03.590 --> 01:08:05.409
bad. I don't have that much of a stake in it.

01:08:05.429 --> 01:08:08.630
Imagine, like, Crawford losing. Like, how bad

01:08:08.630 --> 01:08:11.050
some of the Crawford riders on the Discord are

01:08:11.050 --> 01:08:14.030
going to crash out. Oh, yeah, that'd be bad.

01:08:14.170 --> 01:08:18.270
That'd be bad. They're going to die. Oh! I think

01:08:18.270 --> 01:08:20.390
that's all we can do. What the hell was that?

01:08:21.069 --> 01:08:26.029
Goddamn. That was a yawn and a half, buddy. Yeah,

01:08:26.050 --> 01:08:27.489
that was not a yawn. That was like a combustion.

01:08:28.359 --> 01:08:32.020
I was like, are we yawning? Yeah, I think we're.

01:08:33.659 --> 01:08:38.340
All right. So, yeah, is that it for Canelo Crawford?

01:08:39.039 --> 01:08:44.260
Yes, sir. I don't have anything else. All right.

01:08:44.319 --> 01:08:50.079
Let me put some housekeeping notes in here. There

01:08:50.079 --> 01:08:55.060
goes that. So, a few things. Social media handle,

01:08:55.199 --> 01:08:57.500
LVX Media Net. That's everywhere. If you can't

01:08:57.500 --> 01:09:00.800
find it, we're not on it. Wherever you're listening,

01:09:01.020 --> 01:09:03.779
hit us with a rating. Hit us with a review if

01:09:03.779 --> 01:09:07.739
you're feeling a little extra. And if you want

01:09:07.739 --> 01:09:10.739
to get rid of ads, patreon .com slash LVX Media

01:09:10.739 --> 01:09:14.760
Net. Just like everywhere else. If you want to

01:09:14.760 --> 01:09:19.079
get yourself into the conversation, lvx .be slash

01:09:19.079 --> 01:09:22.729
discord. If you go through Patreon, you can get

01:09:22.729 --> 01:09:27.189
yourself a special role. Kind of avoid a little

01:09:27.189 --> 01:09:29.529
bit of the hazing that happens for new people.

01:09:30.550 --> 01:09:33.369
But if you just want to go in, you want to raw

01:09:33.369 --> 01:09:38.970
dog it, have fun. We'll be there on fight night

01:09:38.970 --> 01:09:41.689
for sure. Everybody's going to be there chatting,

01:09:41.829 --> 01:09:46.689
watching. It'll be fun. Chat's always fun. Get

01:09:46.689 --> 01:09:48.510
ready for the death of boxing. This is the last

01:09:48.510 --> 01:09:50.770
boxing fight that's... It's going to be this

01:09:50.770 --> 01:09:53.829
big for a while. Oh, yeah. Hey, what do you mean?

01:09:53.869 --> 01:09:57.409
We got Joseph Parker and Fabio Wardley to talk

01:09:57.409 --> 01:10:01.409
about? Those are Brits, man. Those are Brits.

01:10:01.590 --> 01:10:04.390
Hey, what do you mean? One is a meth dealer from

01:10:04.390 --> 01:10:09.069
New Zealand. Come on. One is a Maori meth dealer.

01:10:10.729 --> 01:10:15.270
I mean, hey. Alleged. They call him the Kiwi

01:10:15.270 --> 01:10:20.220
Walter White. Exactly. We got shit to talk about.

01:10:20.399 --> 01:10:22.260
It is the death of boxing, though. You guys,

01:10:22.380 --> 01:10:24.739
really, what's the biggest pay -per -view fight

01:10:24.739 --> 01:10:30.340
besides AJ Fury? Benavidez Yard? That's not pay

01:10:30.340 --> 01:10:33.119
-per -view. Yeah, I completely misheard you.

01:10:33.739 --> 01:10:36.520
Hey, man. Hey, man. Jake Paul, not Jake Paul.

01:10:36.779 --> 01:10:38.779
Mayweather and Mike Tyson just got signed, so

01:10:38.779 --> 01:10:42.380
this boxing is back. Yeah, man. Boxing is back

01:10:42.380 --> 01:10:46.479
until we see the death of fucking Tyson. Live

01:10:46.479 --> 01:10:50.300
TV. Jake Paul. There'll be another Jake Paul

01:10:50.300 --> 01:10:52.239
fight and everyone will care about boxing again

01:10:52.239 --> 01:10:55.300
because we all love Jake Paul on this show. Oh,

01:10:55.319 --> 01:10:57.859
we love him. We love him. He's the savior of

01:10:57.859 --> 01:11:04.880
women's boxing. JP Mafia. That's true. JP Mafia.

01:11:07.479 --> 01:11:11.800
So, I was going to ask parting words, but did

01:11:11.800 --> 01:11:16.619
we just go through them? That's about it. ProBuck's

01:11:16.619 --> 01:11:21.869
good. Maybe let's go Canelo one last time. Let's

01:11:21.869 --> 01:11:27.090
go Crawford. I love Canelo, but I grew up watching

01:11:27.090 --> 01:11:28.810
him, but after watching him fight for long in

01:11:28.810 --> 01:11:31.430
school, I will never forgive him. He broke my

01:11:31.430 --> 01:11:33.949
heart. So I want Crawford to win. I'm rooting

01:11:33.949 --> 01:11:38.649
against my own people, man. It sucks, but I have

01:11:38.649 --> 01:11:44.430
to. I have to. All right. Well then, we will

01:11:44.430 --> 01:11:47.130
see you on the other side of Canelo Crawford.
