The B -Side in boxing. B -Side shit. B -Side.
B -Side. And the B -Side. You got a B -Side.
The B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. That
B -Side thing. This is the B -Sides Boxing Podcast.
Oof. What's today, Wednesday? I take my foster
kittens back tomorrow. You're going to take the
foster kids back tomorrow? Yeah, I got two. Oh,
shit. You're taking them back to the foster care?
Oh, it's cats. Foster kittens. Sorry. Oh. Oh,
these are foster kids. Oh, shit. I never know
you have kids. No. God damn. No, I don't know
if I got any foster kids. I'm only supposed to
hold on to them until they're old enough for
their surgeries. Okay. Fire. Yeah. Now my legs
can heal up. There you go. I had sent a picture.
I think I still have it. I could probably show
you. I got scratched. Worst I've ever had. Worst
case I've ever had of being used as a scratch
post. How many times have you been using the
fucking threshold? God damn. A lot. It happens
a lot. Damn. That's crazy. Well, yeah, once they
get older, they kind of figure out, like, what
the difference between pants and not pants are.
They don't try to climb up my leg. And their
claws are sharp, huh? Oh, my God. They're like
little razor blades. Jesus Christ. Yeah. Fuck.
Oh, that just gave me the heebie -jeebies. Yeah,
like, I took an alcohol wipe, and I just went
all over my leg. Oh, my God. I had to, because,
like, damn, I can't let myself get infected with
their gross little feet. Like, you're gonna get
fucking... Rub some salt in there, too, bro.
Yeah, lemon juice. Lemon juice, salt, lime juice,
everything, dog. Yeah. Maximum pain. Yeah, pain
maxing. That's what they call it these days.
Is that what the kids are calling it, pain maxing?
I just made that shit up on the spot. Oh, well,
you had me going. That's probably a thing they
probably do, too. I don't know. Pain maxing.
Make yourself hurt for the sake of doing it?
Yeah. You know, that's what the kids are doing,
maybe. Could be. This. I sound like Steve McShane
right here. You ready to rock? Yeah, whenever
you want. All right. Woof. Boxing B -sides. We're
back. What? How was Darren Till versus Tony Ferguson?
I don't know. We'll talk about it another time,
if ever. It was dog shit. It was dog shit. Probably.
It probably was. I am Leo. I'm joined by... The
one and only Saul. What's up, guys? I'm back.
It's just us. And there is quite a bit of boxing
to talk about. How much of it is good? I don't
know. You be the judge. Starting off, ring four.
It's going to be in November. This is a card.
This is fucking stacked. Beyond stacked. Let's
see. From the bottom, I don't know if this is
the actual running order. This is just what I
have it listed as. Artur Beterbiev versus Dion
Nicholson. I'm not sure who Dion Nicholson is,
but... He's American, right? Is he? I'm pretty
sure he's American. Yes, he is. He's from Tuscaloosa,
Alabama. Oh, damn. Another Alabama fighter? Yeah.
I haven't heard of that in a while. Brian Norman
Jr. vs. Devin Haney for the WBO welterweight
title. I'm not pleased that Devin Haney is getting
a title shot, because I don't think he deserves
it after his last fight. I mean, I don't know.
That fight is... For people that have been listening
to podcasts since I've been on, you guys might
know that I've kind of been a Brian Norman Jr.
blazer. I've been a doomer, so I'm on a full
180 on him. Lately. Really? Yeah. What's your
opinion on him now? Now, like, to me, well, who
are his other, his fellow champs? Mario Barrios,
Raleigh. Mario Barrios and Raleigh. I think soon
to be. Is that the B .O. idea? Yeah, that's who
I'm not sure of. It's probably going to be a
Brit. But I am of the mind that he's the best
welterweight right now. I understand. Without
question. It's unfortunate because Welterweight
isn't the best right now. Lewis Crocker and Patty
Donovan are 1 -3 in the IBF right now. They've
already fought, right? It'll be a rematch, I
think, and it'll be the title. That's crazy.
Yeah, quite. Regardless, Brian Norman's still
the best welterweight. I gotta say, dude, I've
been hearing way too much Brian Norman, like,
laying recently. I'm not gonna lie. Like what?
Just a little too much. That he's, like, fucking,
he's, like, one -dimensional. Okay. You know?
I'm like, dude, they don't know ball. They don't
know ball. That's got, yeah, there's no other.
Brian Norman Jr., at least from what I've seen,
I mean, he's improved a lot these past couple
years. Ever since that Boca Chica fight, I've
seen interviews, too, where apparently, I guess,
his hand was injured, and then he got surgery
on it. That's what he said. Have you saw that,
Leo? No, I haven't, but it sounds like he's been,
if that's the case, then he's definitely improved.
Yeah, because he's been getting, he's been on
a knockout streak ever since. Knocked out Giovanni
Santillan. Knocked out Cuevas. Was it Cuevas
or Cuevas? Cuevas. No, David, Cuevas. Cuevas.
And then, what's it called? Jen Psaki. And potentially
knockout of the year. Wait, Lil, can you pause
real quick? I got to take a call real quick.
Yeah. Regarding Brian Roman Jr., he knocked out
Jen Psaki and potentially what is to be fight
of the year or knockout of the year. Absolutely.
And Jason Saki, he was a ranked opponent, right?
He was ranked number five? He was a top -rated
opponent, yes. Do you remember what number he
was or no? Not off the top of my head. Okay.
Well, either way, he was a top -rated ranked
opponent. And look what by Norma Judin. We also
know that Devin Haney has a chin. And another
two, I don't want to underestimate Devin Haney.
I know there's been a lot of Devin Haney slander.
Also, A little bit for me as well. I can't lie.
I've slandered Devin Haney's name. But that man
can still, he's a good boxer. You know, he's
got a jab. He can move. So it really depends
on how big the ring is and how much Devin Haney
is going to run that night. That's just how it's
going to be. I think Brian Norman Jr. takes that
fight, and he wins. With a power thing like Norman,
though, Devin Haney's going to be on his bike.
I don't think there's any doubt about it. That's
my thing. He would be dumb not to be on his bike.
If he fights in the pocket, that would be beautiful.
If he fights in the pocket and wins, oh my lord.
Give Devin Haney the win, no doubt about it.
But, I mean, this man is not Shakur. I was about
to say, Shakur could do it. He did it with Zepeda.
Zepeda's not the same kind of power threat that
Norman is. Yeah. I mean, I doubt Shakur would
also be in the pocket with fucking Norman. Yeah,
absolutely not. Have you seen Norman's back?
Have you seen that boy's back? Never. I've only
just seen him in the ring. That man, oh my lord.
That man's back? Have you ever played Marvel
Rivals? Yeah, briefly. He's back. He's just like
that boy, fucking Mr. Reed Richards. Mr. Fantastic.
That boy Reed Richards. You know? It's fucking
huge. His back is ginormous. You know, it looks
like a cartoon character is that big. I mean,
it's, it's, it's just naturally gifted with power.
You know? Yeah. That, that Ryan Norman can, can,
he has, he has okay lateral movement. The only
thing I would say with Ryan Norman Jr. is that
his guard, his guard's a little too leaky. I
will say. He gets his, he can get hit. But, That
boy can hit for sure. He can hit like a motherfucker.
Guaranteed. That's my two cents of binomial.
That's my little Glaze Fest. Oh, to continue
the Glaze Fest, Bam Rodriguez versus Fernando
Martinez. It's going to be a Bam win, hopefully.
It's going to be a dangerous, but it's going
to be a Bam win. Yeah, it is a dangerous one.
Puma does have power. Especially, like, considering
relatives of the little guys. But, I don't know,
I think Bam's way too smart. 100%. If he knocks
out Puma, dude, oh my lord. That's gonna be a
field day. Oh, you better put him... If people
have him right now, because he's not undisputed
or hasn't been, he doesn't make the top four.
With, like, Usyk, Bevo, Terrence Crawford, Canelo.
Still kind of at the top. I will say that, and
again, I think I've said this in the past, I
think BAM has some of the best skills in boxing
right now. Absolutely. Probably some of the best
fundamentals I've seen in the sport currently,
you know? He's just got it down, dude. If he
was... We always talk about power. If he fought
at the same weight class as some of these other
fighters, he would destroy them. Just by fundamentals
alone, you know? Shanada had an interesting thought
experiment, which is whenever we talk about pound
for pound, we always think of guys like Bam moving
up to compete. But whenever you take the guys,
the bigger guys and move them down. Oh, yeah,
they wouldn't last. Right. That's why I think
Usyk would last. He's really good fundamentally
sound. But guys like fucking who? Tyson Fury?
Maybe, you know, off his head alone, but like.
Anthony Joshua wouldn't last. Frickin... Honestly,
Zuru wouldn't last. He didn't last that 175.
That's why he had to move up. Yeah. You know?
I don't know. There's a lot of guys that wouldn't
last if they moved down. Speaking of fundamentally
sound, Abdullah Mason versus Sam Noakes. Oh,
Lord. More delays. Yep. That's gonna be a...
That's going to be a new title right there. Yeah,
I'm excited. I'm excited for Abdullah Mason to
get his crown. New American champ. As long as
he doesn't get knocked out. That man should not
get knocked out by Sam Noakes. And if he does,
his career is going down the drain. Yeah, because
people are already pretty down on him for being
leaky. Right? Because he's been knocked out a
few times. But yeah, that was a one fight though.
Yeah, well. He's improved. I can't think of anything
really. That's the most negative thing I could
think of to say. Because I can't. I don't see
Abdullah Mason losing this. Yeah, but I mean,
who knocked down Benavidez? What was his name?
Exactly. We don't know his name. That's the thing.
The guy he fought was... Well, they can, but
he still knocked him down. You know? Yeah, and
he said he had the flu or something. And then
he rematched him and he beat his ass. Exactly.
Man, now I really want to look up who it is,
because... I think that was during the Afro -Benefitas
days. Pretty sure. Was it Ronald Gabriel? Yeah.
Yeah, I think that was him. Yeah. I'm pretty
sure that was him. Gabriel is at 175 right now,
right? Is he? Because now they can do a... If
he's at 175, they can do a trilogy. Yeah, he
is at 175 now. They can do a trilogy if they
want to. Get that knockdown. Get it back. twice
over. Oh, yeah. Hell, yeah. That's funny. No,
but back to Bill Mason. I hope he smokes Sandoke.
Smokes Noke, you know? Yeah, I got a dunk on
Lin. Yeah. Oh, Lord. That's pretty much the main
thing. That's my main motivation now. If Bill
Mason loses, I'm honestly going to leave that
server. I'm done. Boxing, honestly. If Bill Mason
loses against Sandoke, it's over for me. Yeah,
that would be a really bad, bad omen. Yeah. Give
another fucking Brit champion. Oh, Subrail Matias
versus Dalton Smith. Now, I heard that this was
not final. Yeah, I haven't heard anything about
that fight yet on that card specifically. Yeah.
It's listed on the bill, but. I don't know. I
think Don Smith doesn't deserve that fucking
title shot. You know? We'll actually take it
back. He's ranked number one, right? Yeah, by
the WBC. Yeah. I take it back by the way I said.
So if he's ranked number one, then yeah, I'll
take it back. He deserves it. But this is a situation
where, like, let him have it. You don't belong
in the same ring as Subaru Matias, and you're
going to find that out pretty quickly. Well,
the thing is, again, I don't want to glay the
Brit, but it's like, I mean... Super Matias,
he is kind of, he lost to Liam Parra, you know?
He lost to Liam Parra, so it's kind of like,
what kind of Matias is going to get in there,
you know? Yeah. The person I want to see him
fight is Gary Antoine Russell. I would love that
fight. That's why it's never going to happen,
because it's such a good fight to make. The thing
is that they're not going to make that fight,
because if he beats Donald Smith, they're going
to have a rematch playoff. I'm pretty sure that's
what's going to happen. That's the plan. Got
to get the title back into the PBC rotation.
Yeah, I mean, they want to, you know. It was
really close. Were you with us when we did the
race? Yeah, I was there. I was there. I was the
kick. Remember? Oh, that's right. For what? Being
silly, I don't know. I guess people having a
good time. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, that fight
was really good. I wouldn't mind seeing that
fight at all. But I would much rather see a new
fight like Gary Antoine -Russell rather than
see a rematch. A unification, too. Yeah, a unification.
Against the division moving forward, you know?
Yeah, absolutely. Versus the clusterfuck we've
been having recently. Yeah, I always say it.
I'm a sucker for undisputed. Unification fights,
whatever gets us closer to one title holder.
That's what I want. That's what I want to see.
Yeah, I mean, we'll see what happens, but I'm
not sure. I honestly think that it'd be funny
if Keyshawn goes up and takes Diopimo's title.
You know? Keyshawn fights fucking very well,
regardless of the pain you have with him, so
I think if Keyshawn moves up, he might just be
the champ. They got disputed, in my opinion.
You think he can beat Teofimo? If he was on?
If Teofimo's on? I'm almost positive he can beat
Teofimo. Damn. Because Teofimo's definitely slowed
down. He's been knocked down before, too. And
I can't say for sure how Keyshawn's power is
going to be at 140. But if Keyshawn's power carries
up and maybe even improves, Teofimo's done for.
You have a different opinion about that? No.
I'm not sure. Now that you put it that way, I
was thinking Teofimo, if he's on point, I don't
know who... There's not a lot of people at 140
that I would rate to beat him. But I need to
have a look now to see who's there. I don't think
Matias beats Teofimo. Pueyo, neither. Who do
we have here at the top 10 on BoxRec? We have
Matias, Andy Hiraoka, no. You may say, I'm getting
a call real quick. Sorry. I think, I think, what
were we talking about before? Keyshawn beating
Teofimo? Yeah, I think, I think Keyshawn. He
beats Teofimo pretty soundly. My opinion. How
does Kishan run with the rest of the division?
If Teofimo's slowing down, then... I think...
I don't know, honestly, because I think his hardest
fight is going to be obviously with Gary Antoine
Russell. That's my opinion, honestly. Maybe Matias
might be a harder fight, too. I think Gary Antoine
Russell with the assault that he's going to have
on Keyshawn's body and head, you know? Yeah.
Wicked. Richardson Hitchens, too. I think Keyshawn
kills Richardson Hitchens. Oh, that. I would
love for anybody to kill Richardson Hitchens.
I mean, I think Richardson Hitchens is... People
say he's, you know, this, this, and that, what
have you, but, I mean, he's all right. He's pretty
good, but he's just not a Demi Haney, you know?
I begrudgingly admit that he's good. I just don't
like the way he fights. No, I mean, I agree.
I don't think he's, you know... How do I explain
this? I think he's a champion, like, similar
to how... Let me think. Who's a champion? Let's
say at 160, right? At 160. Fucking... There's
Lenny Lara. Okay? I see. He got a title. He got
a title with the IBF. You know? Who did he fight
for? Leon Parro. Right? Yeah. He fought Leon
Parro for the damn title. I mean, it's fucking
Leon Parro. You know? Leon Parro is not horrible,
but he's not a good name, you know? Come on.
I think a lot of other fighters beat Rich Knitchens.
I think T .O .P. would beat Richard Hitchens,
actually. I kind of flip -flop on that. Some
days I think Hitchens beats T .O .P. I think
T .O .P. also has a possibility to beat Richard
Hitchens. Man, I got to stew on this one for
a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. David Benavidez versus
Anthony Yard. For once, finally. David Benavidez
is the full champion. No more interims. I think
some fuckery might happen. I don't know why.
I just feel some fuckery might happen in that
fight. Like, for the results for the cards. I
just feel like they're going to rob his head.
For Anthony Yard? Yeah. I'm just saying, they
might. Queensbury and Turkey, they love each
other, man. True. I mean, Turkey's definitely
not a Heyman guy. He's trying to get Heyman guys
over, but I mean, come on. He's got one right
now. Yeah. I think the better fight would have
obviously been Betterby versus Betterby, you
know, but there's still time that could happen
where, you know, Yard gets... pulled out for
some reason, but I don't know. I just wishful
thinking. Yeah, it's surprising that they have
them on the same card, but not with each other.
It's kind of weird. The thing with Yard is that,
I mean, Yard, Yard, you can disagree with me,
but Yard molds his fights around the fighters
he fights, you know, if that makes any sense.
Like, the quality of the fight is depending on
the quality of the fighter he's fighting, you
know? Like, Lin and Arthur fights, they're redukey.
But it's not with Kovalev. his fight would better
be. Oh, Lord. Those are some good -ass fights.
So I'm expecting a pretty good fight with this
one. You know, he's not going to be on the back
foot. That man can... That man will be one to
scrap. Yeah, speaking of big backs, Anthony Yard
is fucking yoked. Yeah, I bet he's yoked. He's
huge. I think... Anything more for Ring 4? No,
that's gonna be a good card, you know? Yeah,
I'm really excited for this. BetterBeef being
added to the undercard at that low as well. Honestly,
really surprising to me. Yeah, I'm not sure if
that's the right order. I expect that Bam will
be lower than BetterBeef. Which is ridiculous.
Yes, it is. Really ridiculous. But, you know.
It is what it is. Into some recaps. Wednesday,
August 20th, No Limit in Australia. It was a
really short card. Everything got done pretty
quickly. Jazzy Par stops Efasha Kamarudin. Kamarudin,
that's how they were saying it, in the fifth.
Brock Jarvis of Keith Thurman fame stops Sam
Beck in the fourth. Michael Zarafa, really quick
knockout in the first round. And new Australian
hopeful Nikita Zu retires Lulzim Ismaili in the
first, after the first. Interesting, interesting
fight. Yeah. Yeah, I'm interested to see how
Nikita Zu shapes out because he's still developing.
a bit and yeah he's doing really well but uh
it'll look bad i will say right he's he's not
looking he's not looking bad against but this
is all like domestic opposition or domestic level
opposition top top level australian fighters
aren't even the best that's true you never count
an aussie but you know never count out an aussie
Friday, August 22nd, MVP, most valuable prospects.
I only kept two from the top of the bill. Yoelvis
Gomez, majority decision over Edwin Humane Jr.
And John Paul Rivera stops Daniel Bailey in the
sixth. I wonder how far John Paul Rivera can
get. MVP's all in on him. Yeah, they like him
a lot. Yeah. Saturday, August 23rd, Queensberry
at the Planet Ice in Altrincham in England. Just
a few that I kept from the top of the bill. Jack
Turner stops Nicholas Muguruza. Muguruza. Muguruza.
Damn, I struggled with that. Stops him in six.
Zach Miller gets the UD over Leon Woodstock.
And Jack Rafferty draws with Mark Chamberlain.
I think that was for a title? I don't think it's
for a title. Maybe the interim. Maybe. Yeah.
Maybe you're right. The interim or final eliminator.
I just remember this being for more than I thought
it was going in. But. It's alright. It doesn't
matter because they draw anyway. Moving to MVP
Most Valuable Promotions Fight Night Series.
Lucas Badi gets the UD over Roger Gutierrez.
We talked about him a bit last week. Abbas Baru
gets the UD over Yohannes Taez. Oh, Yoannis.
What a disappointing outcome. I don't know. Was
this like a writing is on the wall situation?
Because nobody knew who Beru was going into this.
I think it was just like maybe if I'm trying
to think maybe it was a big bud knew who Abbas
was. I mean, even if you knew, you know, you
look at the records and obviously you're going
to go for the... The A -side, you know? He used
to have to break his lung. Right. We talked about
this on the last podcast. The fact that Baru
won, that gives him a shot at the title after
Curtis Copper vacates, hopefully. I wonder if
they'll elevate him or if he'll have to fight
for the full title. They'll probably make him
fight boots, honestly. Yeah. I feel like that
would be better. I'd much rather see that. But,
hey. You never know with Bachman. Yeah, Baru
is... He's okay, but I'm not sure how he got
himself into the title picture. But given how
stacked 154 is, he wasn't long for it anyway.
He's like a sitting duck. Yeah. He's there. Yeah,
he was just there. That's the best I can describe
it. He was just there. There's not much to say
about it. I'm the one against MVP hopeful, and
he was just there for hopefully Booth to beat
up. Headlining, Yankee Rivera draws with Angelina
Cordova. Angelina was annoying the ever -loving
fuck out of me when he was... Anytime he punched,
he'd go like, oh, oh, oh, oh. Oh, Jesus. It was
so fucking difficult to watch. Yeah. Has to scream
when he does something. I think this was the
WBA flyweight title. Pretty sure. MVP has a title
holder here. And it doesn't look like he's going
to be keeping them for long. Yeah, I mean, 122?
112. Oh, 112. Oh, yeah. Yeah. The MVP's only
champion is in the low way to it. Yeah. It's
all they got. Yeah. I'm trying to see where he's
at. I don't even see him on the top 25 of BoxRec.
Oh, there he is, 25. Still, it's pretty goddamn
low. That's it, though. That's all we have for
the recap. It was pretty light. Sucks to suck,
but that's how it goes sometimes. Who wants his
other things, man? Yeah, it'll get better. It's
starting to get better. Yeah. What do we got
coming up, dude? Yeah, it's a good weekend. But
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September 4th. Eye of the Tiger. In Montreal,
Quebec, Canada. Bunch of shit on here I don't
care about. Oslies Iglesias versus Vladimir Shishkin.
IBO title for super middleweight is on the line.
Yeah, let's see how good this goes. Yeah, Shishkin's
actually a pretty, not a terrible opponent. It's
better, I think, than anyone Iglesias has fought
so far. But I know people are really high on
him. iglesias i'm not sure if i am yeah let's
let's see how yeah let's see how he does yeah
um that's it for the i had the tiger card though
another one friday september 5th wasserman at
the three arena in dublin ireland A bunch of
shit on here that I don't really care about.
And then at the top of the bill, Mickey Conlin
is back. Versus Jack Bateson. One of the fights
of all time. That's all I got to say about it.
Yeah. And a stacked Saturday, September 6th.
First is a match room in Rainton Meadows Arena.
in Houghton LeSpring. I don't know what the hell
that is. Let's see. We've been following him
for quite some time for the majority of his career
at this point. Cameron Vuong. He's on here, but
he's listed TBA. There's absolutely no reason
why I picked him and why I started paying attention
to him. It's just his name shows up every time.
So... Follow him. Yeah, I'm all in. Yeah. Sandy
Ryan is back after her back -to -back wars with
Michaela Mayer. Mark Dickinson versus Troy Williamson.
Don't know who they are, but that's your co -main.
And Pat McCormick versus Miguel Barra. Welterweights
in the main. Another fight of all time. Yeah,
it is certainly a card. Yeah, it's certainly
a card. We have two happening in Mexico. I don't
know what arena it's going to be at or what venue
it's going to be at, but Matchroom in Los Mochis,
Sinaloa. Eduardo Nunez versus Christopher Diaz
-Valez. The IBF 130 title will be on the line.
It'll be fun to watch. That one, yeah, I'll be
paying attention to that one for sure, just because
of the title implications. And at the Domo Binacional
in Nogales, Oscar Valdez versus Richard Medina.
Don't know who Richard Medina is. It's another
five -ball time. Another Oscar Valdez decision.
All I got to say about that one. Yeah, I mean,
at least Valdez is entertaining. He always comes
to rumble. So it should at least be an entertaining
fight to watch. I understand. If nothing else.
Yeah. Man, that's all we got. It's a quick one.
I got my parting words ready right here. All
right. Yeah, I got one more break. And we're
heading into a light but busy weekend. Harding
words. Let's go Bam Rodriguez. Let's go Virgil
Ortiz. That's all I got. Yeah. Yeah, let's see
what's up with Iglesias. Yeah, let's go Iglesias.
All right, if that's it, then that's it for this
edition of the Boxing B -Sides. We'll see you
on the other side. We'll see if I can get into
the venue for Oscar Valdez. Yeah, try. It'll
be a good time. All right. We'll see you guys
on the other side. All right. All right. Good
podcast.