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The B -Side in boxing. B -Side shit. B -Side.

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B -Side. And the B -Side. You got a B -Side.

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The B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. The B

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-Side thing. This is the B -Sides Boxing Podcast.

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Alright. We ready to boogie? Yeah, let's do this.

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Alright. Well, well, well. The Boxing B -Sides

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have convened for what is going to be a pretty

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light fucking episode this time. Joined by the

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one and only Saul. If you've spent any time in

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Discord, you know who this is. And another crossover.

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We got Isaac back to talk some boxing. Talking

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boxing, but first UFC 319. Holy shit. Was there

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some good stuff on here? One that I missed was,

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did King Green get knocked out? I didn't see.

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Dude, no, that fight got scrapped. Oh, it did?

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Okay. Yeah, he had like a metal core. He said

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he couldn't walk during fight week. Something

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happened. We still don't know what happened,

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but apparently he couldn't walk. Spared another

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day. Yeah. Let's see. Jared Cannoneer. Was getting

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his ass worked by Michael Venom Page. Yeah. For

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two rounds. And then MVP decided, I think I can

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grapple. Yeah. Some very not smart decisions

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by MVP. But yeah, the first two rounds, he was

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busting Cannon Era. Dropped him pretty hard twice.

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But yeah, unfortunate third round for him. Unfortunate.

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Was this the second round where Carlos Pratesh

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got Jeff Neal? Dude, no, it was first round.

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First round. At the bell. At the bell. Okay,

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that's what I thought it was. After. Dude, nasty.

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Nasty ass elbow. Spinning. What was the stat

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you had given? Like, coming into the event, there

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was only like eight spinning elbow knockouts?

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Yeah, coming into this UFC history. Yeah, this

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is a nasty, nasty knockout. I mean. We had talked

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about it, obviously, on Ultimate Fucking Casual.

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We had talked about it, how this was most likely

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going to end in a knockout. But, dude, this one

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was, like, not only a knockout, but it was very

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flashy. It was very, like, highlight reel -esque.

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And, man, Carlos Pratesh, he's on a rocket, man.

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Strapped to a rocket. He's, you know, he had

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that little loss to Ian Gary, but this is a big

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knockout. No one's knocked out Jeff Neal before.

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So this was really nice. I mean, very aesthetically

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pleasing knockout, too. Very good win. Yeah,

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very emphatic return from what was a pretty kind

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of a dull loss. So it's not like he got dominated

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or anything, but well, dominated may not be the

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right word. He didn't get ragdolled. Yeah. Yeah,

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but I'm excited to see where they go with him

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next. Excited to see where they go with Lerone

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Murphy. Another spinning knockout. Over debutant

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Aaron Pico. Continuing to make the outside orgs

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look like trash. Yeah, this was, I mean, we were

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just talking about eight spinning elbow KOs coming

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into this event. And then we got, like, back

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-to -back spinning elbow KOs, both in the first

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round. It was insane to see this was, I mean,

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this sort of, like, made the event, or the entire

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card, rather, but, like... And this one was beautiful.

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Aaron Pico was pressuring Murphy pretty hard

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throughout the first round. I mean, backing up

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Murphy to the fence consistently throughout,

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throwing good body shots. He's doing good work.

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But in between, you saw the tea leaves, man.

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Murphy was trying to get a counter as Pico was

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stepping in. We saw him throw a knee up to the

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chin of Pico that just missed. But then Murphy

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clocked that. Pico was diving off to the right

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side. during his entries, you know, trying to

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slip on any counters that Murphy was throwing.

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Murphy timed that spinning elbow. Man, completely

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flatline Pico. He was just out for some time.

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Brutal, brutal knockout from Murphy. And this

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was like, I mean, this went super viral. We're

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already talking about Volkanovski himself tweeted

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that he will see Lerone Murphy for the featherweight

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title shot. possibly later this year, November,

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December. I think we'll see. But yeah, this was

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a great win for Murphy. This was a guy that was

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coming pretty far under the radar, right? Like

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he wasn't quite as flashy. He wasn't getting

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as much accolades as like Diego Lopez was. Obviously

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not in the same... He wasn't even in the conversation

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with Volkanovski until this. Yeah. Yeah, I mean,

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not really. I mean, he's been on a pretty big

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win streak, but like basically like his last

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fight versus another contender called Josh Emmett

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was like, it just wasn't like super exciting.

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He got the win. It was like conclusive that he

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got the win, but it just wasn't super exciting.

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But he just like completely erased all that and

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like just leapfrogged himself right into a title

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shot. Like this was a tremendous win. And when

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you pair that with his win streak that he has

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at the moment. I think he probably deserves to

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get the title shot, and hopefully that's what

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they do. It looks like that's what they're going

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to do at least. Yeah, strike while the iron's

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hot. Yeah, exactly. Poor Mofsvar. Yeah. He gets

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the chair in the corner. Yeah. In the main event,

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the middleweight title was on the line. Drikus

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Duplessis drops the ball. It wasn't even fucking

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close. uh four rounds dominated four and a half

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minutes of the last round dominated wasn't until

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the end that he had a close he had a catch he

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almost got a uh or was it a rear naked choke

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i think yeah he hopped on his back and like tried

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to lock it in but i mean comes out an experienced

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wrestler grappler he wasn't gonna let that happen

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but you know there was some emotion like in those

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last 30 seconds you know like could he get this

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done But no, alas, he could not. Lost heavily

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on points. And yeah, comes out as your new middleweight

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champion. Was it a sweep? I remember it being

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a sweep. Yeah, yeah. This is a sweep. I mean,

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we're talking about potentially one or two 10

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-8 rounds. It's like the third or the fourth

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rounds. One of them could be a 10 -8 round. But

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yeah, we're talking about even more than 50 -45.

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I mean, this was... This was a domination, man.

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Drikus, it was really only those last 30 seconds.

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That was really the only thing he had going for

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him this entire fight. He got dominated. He got

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ragdolled, would be a proper term. Yep. I was

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a Drikus fucking truther. And I had to get my

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words. Yeah, he's had his plot armor up until

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now. But yeah, that armor got cracked. And he's

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going to have to go back to being a contender.

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Especially after this loss. He's going to have

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to get a few wins after this. Just want to check

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who is around. Imabov has a fight coming up.

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He's the second rated contender. I don't see

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a good reason to do Strickland again. Yeah, it

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won't be Strickland. Plus, he's on suspension

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for now for something he did out of the ring.

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Oh, right. That's right. And yeah, so it's actually

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a very interesting weight division at the moment

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because, like you said, Imoval is facing the

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Brazilian Bojalio in UFC Paris, which is coming

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up soon within the next few weeks. But then they've

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also just scheduled RDR versus Fluffy Hernandez,

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which is another pair of contenders. So, you

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know, it depends, I guess, first of all, on how

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much time comes out once off. I don't know how

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active he wants to be, but we could see the next

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middleweight, like, challenger or title challenger

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be the winner of Bohagio versus Emilov. Or potentially,

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you know, if Kamsa wants to wait a little bit

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longer, it could be the winner between RDR and

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Fluffy. So, you know, it's something you'll have

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to see. It could be one of, like, four people

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as far as the title challenger goes. So there's,

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you know, a lot is in the air at the moment.

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But, you know, it's exciting as a division, is

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what that means. How many times has DDP fought

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Adesanya? Uh, once. Once? Once. Could do that

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again. Yeah, I mean, the rematch, rematch would

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be, I mean, the first one was, like, really popular.

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There was a lot going into it. Oh, the African

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-ness. Yeah, there was a lot of... African -ness

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was ridiculous. The press conference was nice.

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You know, Adesanya looked nice early, but, I

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mean, recently, Adesanya's been looking pretty

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washed. I mean, he got knocked out by Imovov.

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You know, who is a legitimate challenger to the

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title at the moment, so perhaps it's not the

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worst loss, but... Yeah, he could be. I mean,

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he's definitely passed in better years. He's

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on his way out the door for sure. Yeah. Oh, UFC

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319. If you want to hear the full breakdown,

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Ultimate fucking Casuals, spelled F apostrophe

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N. If you want to look it up. Check us out, check

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us out. Shout out, Nathan. Yeah, Nate Dogg. Always

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doing his thing. Into some news. Virgil is going

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to be fighting Erickson Lubin. How many rounds

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does this go? I don't see this going to the end.

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If Virgil really has power at 154, then it's

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going to be a Virgil sweep. He knocks him out.

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I don't see Erickson Lubin. taken him the distance

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at all. He robbed Jesus Ramos blind in the damn

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fight on the Charlo Canelo undercard. That was

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horrible. So, I think if since it's a Golden

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Boy card, Virgil also has that advantage with

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being from his own promoter. Even if it goes

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to decision, it's going to be given to Virgil

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no matter what. But, I mean, I don't see how

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Erickson Lubin wins unless it's by knockout.

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That boy's not knocking out fucking Virgil Ortiz.

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No, he's not. If he knocks out Virgil Ortiz,

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I'm cutting off my fucking arms and my legs.

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I am that confident. On Isaac's life and on Leo's

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life, Virgil's not losing the damn fight. Oh,

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man. I got thrown into this one. I agree with

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you, though, so I'm here for it. I mean, it's

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crazy. I don't expect a lot out of Lubin. He's

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getting recycled a little too heavily. I mean,

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you got some of the biggest Virgil fans in here,

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but I feel like even if you weren't a Virgil

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fan, you have to look at this. Like, Virgil,

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look at the level of opposition he's been facing

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recently. Like, we know he's, you know, he's

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sort of been inactive this year, but even then,

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he's going to have two fights this year, which

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is not, you can't really classify two fights

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a year as inactive, really, at this level anymore.

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But yeah, dude, I think he can beat Lubin, hopefully

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by KO. I mean, Lubin has been KO'd by... Jermel

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before. Is that his only loss by knockout? No,

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Sebastian Fandora. Fandora did it too? Well,

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he didn't come out of the corner, so I'll call

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that a stoppage if you want. Yeah, I mean, okay.

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We definitely want to be seeing Virgil get that

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finish then too. I'm pretty sure Lubin knocked

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down Fandora too, right? He did. He got a knockdown.

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Yeah, he got a knockdown earlier. Yeah. Me, personally,

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as a Virgil fan, I want to see him get a knockout

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here. I mean, that's just... I mean, we already

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know he sort of deserves a title shot at 154,

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but that would just make it undeniable. His next

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fight has to be for a title. If he can get it.

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If he can get a finisher. So, yeah, that's what

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I'm looking for. That's the thing. We've been

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saying that ever since the poetry fight, though.

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In the next fight... Yeah, they do. Yeah. But

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he's been getting shafted every time. I mean,

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fucking Fandora's fighting goddamn Keith Urban.

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Gross. Bokrum, where the fuck's Bokrum? The WBA,

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they're by the guy. Yeah, dude. They have, I

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think we're going to talk about this, I don't

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know, this week or next week. For the TLS, Baru,

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Baradu. Oh, yeah, dude. It's going to be the

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next WBA champion, which they're probably most

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likely going to fight Boots next to get a, you

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know. Get a strap on. Yeah, get a strap on Boots.

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And then, fucking, the WBO is with goddamn Henry

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Saez, who's not going to fight anybody in the

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top ten for the next three years. At least from

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what I've seen. And this is, like, the weird

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part about this fight, too, because, like, was

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Lubin not supposed to fight Mertes Alia? Was

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that not the fight that was, like, supposed to

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be made? Like, I thought, like, all the rumors

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I was seeing, yeah, I thought all the rumors

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I was seeing were, like, pointing to that, but,

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which is why, like, the Lubin -Otis fight sort

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of caught me off guard, but, I mean, I will say

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this, at least it's not, like, a cam, like. Virgil

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is facing someone that has been around the title

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picture, you know, before and, like, recently.

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So, you know, if it's not a belt, I'm at least

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glad it's someone like that. But, yeah, hopefully

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he'll get the knockout. I think Lumen is probably

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the best opponent you can get right now because

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I believe everybody else is going to be taken

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up at that time. Obviously, a VootSpy is not

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going to be the best right now. But for sure,

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like, next year, mid to late next year would

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be perfect. I hope that they make that fight

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and they don't over -marinate it. I remember

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in the chat they were talking about how over

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-marinating fights is a bullshit thing. That

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term's kind of bullshit. I heavily disagree with

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that. I think there's times where obviously when

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you let fights marinate for too long when they

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don't happen, example being Deontay Wilder and

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Anthony Joshua, it just loses the hype and the

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money. So I hope they make that fight next year.

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They need to make that fight next year. Yeah,

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and this is, like, the good thing about Virgil

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is that, like, a lot of his fights have been,

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like, really successful. Like, the Bojack fight

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was fun. A lot of those fights at 147 were fun.

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Like, Mean Machine, for example. But, like, Virgil

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has put his name in, like, multiple hats. So,

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like, he's got stuff with Alexander Zayas going

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on at the moment that they're beating online.

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I mean, I don't know if Top Rank will make that

00:15:43.779 --> 00:15:47.979
fight if it comes down to it. But, like... he's

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got his name in a bunch of hats at the moment,

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which is a very good thing, too. You know, he's

00:15:52.960 --> 00:15:54.940
basically, like, he has a bunch of avenues where

00:15:54.940 --> 00:15:57.159
he can go, oh, yeah, this is, you know, step

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one, he's got to take care of business here.

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And, you know, I will be watching with great

00:16:03.039 --> 00:16:07.419
intent here. 100%. The thing with Virgil, though,

00:16:07.480 --> 00:16:09.620
is that I can't help but just feel like he's

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just going to keep getting shafted. He's with

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the WBC right now. Dude. Fucking, they're having

00:16:16.740 --> 00:16:19.720
fucking Pandora fight fans or tournament, whatever

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the fuck. I mean, come on. They're not going

00:16:22.279 --> 00:16:24.059
to give Mattel a shot. They're going to keep

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it in -house. You see, that's when it comes to,

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like, this is more of a failure on De La Hoya

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and Golden Boys. And, though, because, like,

00:16:32.480 --> 00:16:34.600
Virgil is, like, he's beating the dudes they

00:16:34.600 --> 00:16:36.740
put in front of him. Like, the Bojack fight,

00:16:37.019 --> 00:16:40.840
Majumov, he beat them both. Now he's going to

00:16:40.840 --> 00:16:42.620
beat Lubin. Like, bro, what else do you need?

00:16:42.700 --> 00:16:44.700
Who else does he need to beat? to get a title

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shot. He's done everything he needs to do. That's

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more promoter failure. The promoter failure and

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also on the fall of the belt organizations. Is

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Virgil not interim? Is he not interim? I believe

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he is. He is interim for the WBC, but the WBC

00:17:07.900 --> 00:17:10.859
is a bunch of bitches. They want to fucking...

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having the interim title not be a mandatory title.

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Yeah, they want a double dip. You gotta be kidding

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me. That's the most bullshit. If you're the number

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one guy, you should be fighting the title holder.

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Yeah, this is where it starts. This is what people

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hate about boxing. Whenever people criticize

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boxing, this is the stuff that they're talking

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about, man. Why is Virgil not fighting for a

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belt? I can tell you this. If Virgil's next fight

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is not for a belt, then, like, what are we doing?

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Like, I mean, this is tragic. If his next fight

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is not for a belt, then if he loses against Boots,

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he's never going to get a belt. That's just how

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it is. Unless he goes up to get a win, but I

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doubt it. I hate to say it, but they keep shouting

00:18:02.289 --> 00:18:04.750
at my guy. He's been shouting. Yeah, I mean,

00:18:04.809 --> 00:18:08.269
that would be horrendous. I mean, hopefully...

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Hopefully they can get him a title shot after

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this Fandora or whoever back room. Just like

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give him a shot. Word on the street is that he's

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getting ducked a lot too. Or is he getting ducked

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or he's not fucking fighting anybody? Well, I

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know he was injured. He was injured. Like he

00:18:24.839 --> 00:18:27.640
got surgery, but like I'm expecting him to fight

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at the end of this year. This dude keeps, he's

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been tweeting for months about like fighting

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people, but there's just no news on his end.

00:18:35.220 --> 00:18:36.920
This dude's a fucking Riddler, dude. He just

00:18:36.920 --> 00:18:39.539
spills in a damn tweet. Yeah, there's no news

00:18:39.539 --> 00:18:43.519
in it. It's like, bro, like, fight anyone. Anyone.

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Even if it's like, no, just get active. I mean,

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this is sort of insane. It's pretty rough to

00:18:49.339 --> 00:18:53.640
be a boxing fan of the 154. Yeah, dude. Because

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154, there's so many good fighters. I'm like,

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why are fights not happening? Like, what's going

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on? I know, like, where people say, oh, you gotta

00:19:04.259 --> 00:19:06.359
let the fights wait. You gotta hold on to these

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fights. But the thing is it's not even holding

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up with a fight in this point Seeing if the promoters

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want to play nice, you know with each other,

00:19:15.880 --> 00:19:21.579
you know, yeah They already hold two of the belts,

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you know the WBO holds one The PVC holds two

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in the end top ring hold one That makes Baru

00:19:32.559 --> 00:19:38.940
pretty prime real estate, yeah with the pvc with

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the pvc uh with the pvc they're not gonna have

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fundora fighting someone outside the outside

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their fucking uh promotional company unless it's

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for a lot of money like if it's a turkey card

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you know but i don't know though they could get

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if then they get another title onto fundora and

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baru is not going to be and you can recycle him

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into the 154 mix that they have yeah i mean i

00:20:03.200 --> 00:20:05.559
mean yeah but the only thing is that the boots

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is going to be getting that shot first Yeah.

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There's no way that Virgil is going to fight

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him next after he fights fucking Lubin. No? I

00:20:14.960 --> 00:20:21.339
mean, I would hope that if Virgil beats Lubin,

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then he becomes the mandatory, and maybe he could

00:20:24.220 --> 00:20:25.519
activate that mandatory clause, but I don't know

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how the functional companies work or the organizations

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work with each other, you know? Because I think

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you're only allowed to have one fucking, you're

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not supposed to be part of one organization.

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have the interim in one organization and not

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be the mandatory in another. I think that's how

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it works. I don't know how that bullshit works,

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honestly. And this is the issue, though, because,

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like, in my eyes, and, like, of course, this

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is just my opinion, but, like, for me, like,

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154, like, as far as, like, the king of 154 goes,

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like, that really is just between Virgil and

00:20:56.039 --> 00:20:58.980
Boots, in my opinion. Like, it is between, it's

00:20:58.980 --> 00:21:00.500
one of those two that's going to rule this division.

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And, like, that seems like the Super Bowl fight

00:21:04.480 --> 00:21:06.339
at 154. Like, that is the best fight you can

00:21:06.339 --> 00:21:09.019
make at 154. And I think we'll get it at the

00:21:09.019 --> 00:21:11.720
end of next year. Yeah, I think we'll get it

00:21:11.720 --> 00:21:14.579
end of next year. But, like, it would be nice

00:21:14.579 --> 00:21:18.039
if one of them had a title. It would be nice.

00:21:18.740 --> 00:21:20.920
It's not necessary, but it would be nice if one

00:21:20.920 --> 00:21:26.099
of them had a title. I mean, Shane Mosley and

00:21:26.099 --> 00:21:28.099
Floyd Mayweather, that wasn't for a title, but

00:21:28.099 --> 00:21:29.539
it was still a Super Bowl fight. But this is

00:21:29.539 --> 00:21:32.400
not Shane Mosley and Floyd Mayweather. Don't

00:21:32.400 --> 00:21:34.579
need it, but it would be nice. It would be helpful.

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Yeah. Speaking of boots. Yeah, speaking of boots.

00:21:40.940 --> 00:21:47.220
Leesma Lima. The IBO. The fucking prestigious

00:21:47.220 --> 00:21:52.920
IBO title. The IBO Titleist. It's gonna be on

00:21:52.920 --> 00:21:58.680
the line here. Leesma Lima. We hardly knew ya.

00:22:00.359 --> 00:22:04.359
Good luck, buddy. You never know. Maybe you get

00:22:04.359 --> 00:22:08.539
to knock it over Lutz. No. That would ruin. No.

00:22:09.000 --> 00:22:10.779
Dude, that would actually. Chance of Virgil and

00:22:10.779 --> 00:22:13.819
Lutz. That would actually, like, shatter, like,

00:22:13.880 --> 00:22:16.319
the boxing sphere for some time. And it's losing

00:22:16.319 --> 00:22:19.859
to. Because this is a hometown fight, too. Yes.

00:22:19.980 --> 00:22:24.960
John Aaron, like. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, have you

00:22:24.960 --> 00:22:27.759
guys ever seen Lima fight? Yes, once. No, honestly.

00:22:28.750 --> 00:22:32.210
Let me see. Hold on. He's fine. Yeah, I don't

00:22:32.210 --> 00:22:34.509
think I've ever seen this dude fight. I mean,

00:22:34.509 --> 00:22:37.269
he is ranked. He's ranked in the WBA, right?

00:22:38.450 --> 00:22:43.089
Gotta be. Yeah. Maybe the Aaron McKenna fight.

00:22:43.250 --> 00:22:45.289
Maybe. That one sounds sort of familiar, but

00:22:45.289 --> 00:22:52.369
I don't know. But yeah, I mean, everything is

00:22:52.369 --> 00:22:54.329
pointing to, you know, this is like a hometown,

00:22:54.650 --> 00:22:58.700
you know, sort of laying out the mat. to boots

00:22:58.700 --> 00:23:01.839
at 154 like you know it's it's his like red carpet

00:23:01.839 --> 00:23:05.319
entrance uh to the division so everything it

00:23:05.319 --> 00:23:07.019
seems to be set up for him to get you know some

00:23:07.019 --> 00:23:11.160
flashy finish or some dominant win at 154 or

00:23:11.160 --> 00:23:14.240
his debut fight at 154 and hopefully that's what

00:23:14.240 --> 00:23:17.720
happens uh but yeah i mean it's this is most

00:23:17.720 --> 00:23:20.180
likely just like set up for everything that's

00:23:20.180 --> 00:23:22.980
to come for boots at 154 i mean we could be getting

00:23:22.980 --> 00:23:29.730
you know maybe a boots versus majima fight in

00:23:29.730 --> 00:23:33.369
-house. I think he also has Josh Kelly. Josh

00:23:33.369 --> 00:23:37.890
Kelly is also, I think, with Eddie Hearn. There's

00:23:37.890 --> 00:23:40.089
a few other fights. But yeah, everything is building.

00:23:40.609 --> 00:23:43.369
Like we said before, these are building blocks

00:23:43.369 --> 00:23:50.450
for Virgil vs. Boots to be made. I would love

00:23:50.450 --> 00:23:52.069
for that fight to be made, but it's not going

00:23:52.069 --> 00:23:56.630
to be made for a long time. I mean, Golden Boy

00:23:56.630 --> 00:23:59.049
is kind of, they are more willing to let their

00:23:59.049 --> 00:24:03.049
fighters at the stable, you know? As we've seen

00:24:03.049 --> 00:24:07.289
in the past. Yeah, I mean, the whole PBC. Majima,

00:24:07.390 --> 00:24:13.049
yeah, that was cross promotion. And honestly,

00:24:13.190 --> 00:24:19.049
if there's a guy to fight for Virgil, it's got

00:24:19.049 --> 00:24:22.470
to be Majima. Or for a title, but besides for

00:24:22.470 --> 00:24:25.359
a title, Majima. Just, you know, to do the comparison,

00:24:25.599 --> 00:24:28.039
you know? I will say it would be really whack

00:24:28.039 --> 00:24:30.440
if, like, Boots got a title shot off of Lima,

00:24:30.619 --> 00:24:32.859
like, directly. I feel like he has to fight one

00:24:32.859 --> 00:24:35.819
top name. You know, like, a Majumov fight would

00:24:35.819 --> 00:24:38.779
be... I don't know how Majumov would feel about

00:24:38.779 --> 00:24:40.980
that. You know, he's coming off some surgery.

00:24:41.740 --> 00:24:45.740
I forget where. Maybe he's back. But, yeah, just

00:24:45.740 --> 00:24:49.500
one name that's, like, relevant at 154 would

00:24:49.500 --> 00:24:54.240
be nice before a title shot. Yeah. this was like

00:24:54.240 --> 00:24:56.460
really weird though like because you know there

00:24:56.460 --> 00:24:58.160
was there was we knew boots was gonna be fighting

00:24:58.160 --> 00:25:00.700
like obviously hometown and like they were looking

00:25:00.700 --> 00:25:02.140
for an opponent but there was a bunch of rumors

00:25:02.140 --> 00:25:05.319
on who the opponent would be and like this dude

00:25:05.319 --> 00:25:08.619
this dude's name wasn't even tossed around until

00:25:08.619 --> 00:25:11.720
like the last few hours or like or like the last

00:25:11.720 --> 00:25:15.599
day uh before the fight was confirmed and it

00:25:15.599 --> 00:25:17.799
was like sort of out of nowhere yeah it was sort

00:25:17.799 --> 00:25:20.180
of wild like i don't know like josh kelly i thought

00:25:20.180 --> 00:25:22.440
was gonna be the one that was gonna be made but

00:25:22.890 --> 00:25:25.910
i guess he wanted too much money or like you

00:25:25.910 --> 00:25:29.750
know he wanted like a saudi tight bag uh but

00:25:29.750 --> 00:25:33.809
it didn't end up happening so my thing who the

00:25:33.809 --> 00:25:36.130
is josh keller to be saying that you need to

00:25:36.130 --> 00:25:38.190
pay me more money i mean you want to fight for

00:25:38.190 --> 00:25:41.430
the same thing this is the issue this is the

00:25:41.430 --> 00:25:44.150
issue with like saudi bags like it's like inflated

00:25:44.150 --> 00:25:47.470
purses yeah people get spoiled you get paid once

00:25:47.470 --> 00:25:50.069
you know who paid that for who paid that for

00:25:50.069 --> 00:25:53.210
that much money in the past Did Turkey really

00:25:53.210 --> 00:25:55.730
pay fucking Josh Kelly that much money? I think

00:25:55.730 --> 00:25:57.529
he's been on, yeah, I think he's gotten one Saudi

00:25:57.529 --> 00:26:00.769
bag. Hold up. But who did he fight that deserved

00:26:00.769 --> 00:26:06.569
that payday? I don't think he fought anybody

00:26:06.569 --> 00:26:10.329
worth, that would be worth that much. But just

00:26:10.329 --> 00:26:12.589
because he was on such a big card, he got a big

00:26:12.589 --> 00:26:18.269
cut. That'd be fucking camey. Who the fuck is

00:26:18.269 --> 00:26:20.059
he to be saying that shit, dude? Seriously. Who

00:26:20.059 --> 00:26:23.000
the fuck is he? Oh, wait. Yeah, hold on. He's

00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:26.819
a fucking cocksucker. Seriously. He fought Ishmael

00:26:26.819 --> 00:26:33.359
Davis on the Dubois Joshua card, which was, like,

00:26:33.359 --> 00:26:37.539
Saudi -sponsored. Like, but who? Fucking Ishmael

00:26:37.539 --> 00:26:41.039
Davis got knocked out by fucking Bochuk. That's

00:26:41.039 --> 00:26:43.099
what I'm saying, but Saudi -sponsored. Saudi

00:26:43.099 --> 00:26:46.480
-sponsored. Saudi wants fucking all this money

00:26:46.480 --> 00:26:54.839
to fight fucking... He's a C -level at best.

00:26:56.140 --> 00:27:01.660
Yeah. Not even B -level, bro. I was really hoping

00:27:01.660 --> 00:27:03.640
they would do Boots versus Josh Kelly, to be

00:27:03.640 --> 00:27:06.799
honest, because at least he is more of a name

00:27:06.799 --> 00:27:09.759
than these other people, at the very least. Yeah.

00:27:11.339 --> 00:27:15.119
I've seen Josh Kelly fights, at least. But yeah,

00:27:15.180 --> 00:27:17.250
I mean, I guess the... Pickings vs. Lignum. He's

00:27:17.250 --> 00:27:21.670
got a recognizable name at the least. Yeah. Some

00:27:21.670 --> 00:27:25.529
people at least. But yeah, that's what they said

00:27:25.529 --> 00:27:30.170
about Lignum. So yeah, we will be watching boots

00:27:30.170 --> 00:27:35.369
vs. Lignum. So the WBA rankings, Terrence Crawford

00:27:35.369 --> 00:27:38.869
has the full title. Ioannis Tejas is the interim

00:27:38.869 --> 00:27:43.289
champ. Probably going to be elevated after, what,

00:27:43.410 --> 00:27:46.220
two weeks from now? Something like that, three

00:27:46.220 --> 00:27:49.940
weeks. Well, Ioannis is not really champ anymore.

00:27:49.980 --> 00:27:52.400
Oh yeah, not him, but the number one contender

00:27:52.400 --> 00:27:55.880
was Abbas Barrow, who beat Tejas, we'll talk

00:27:55.880 --> 00:27:57.779
about in a little bit, or I think next time.

00:27:58.259 --> 00:28:03.079
Yeah, next time. And then Drawn Ennis is number

00:28:03.079 --> 00:28:08.079
two. That's fucking ridiculous. Jesus Rambo is

00:28:08.079 --> 00:28:11.240
number four. That's a solid fight right there.

00:28:11.849 --> 00:28:16.890
Jesus Ramos deserves that shot way more than

00:28:16.890 --> 00:28:19.690
freaking Ramos. I think they should have fought.

00:28:19.970 --> 00:28:23.069
Them two should have fought. Dude, boots versus

00:28:23.069 --> 00:28:28.250
Ramos. That's a crazy good fight. I would favor

00:28:28.250 --> 00:28:31.730
boots for sure, but Ramos, that's about as big

00:28:31.730 --> 00:28:38.470
of a test as you can get at 154. That is a tremendous

00:28:38.470 --> 00:28:43.599
fight. That is a tremendous fight. I think that

00:28:43.599 --> 00:28:47.799
this whole 154 situation is kind of bullshit

00:28:47.799 --> 00:28:51.180
now. You look back on it, it's starting to look

00:28:51.180 --> 00:28:53.140
bad. I mean, they have fucking Jamal Charlo coming

00:28:53.140 --> 00:28:56.819
back. I mean, come on. Oh, the hint that he's

00:28:56.819 --> 00:29:00.799
going to be fighting Spence? Spence, Spendora.

00:29:00.980 --> 00:29:04.079
He's talking about fighting Bud. He's talking

00:29:04.079 --> 00:29:07.220
about fighting Virgil, Boots. He's literally

00:29:07.220 --> 00:29:12.140
called out everyone. I guarantee you the WBA

00:29:12.140 --> 00:29:16.220
is going to fucking rank his ass like one when

00:29:16.220 --> 00:29:18.000
he comes back. Or the WBC. Either one of them.

00:29:18.099 --> 00:29:20.240
I don't know what kind of dirt fucking Charlo

00:29:20.240 --> 00:29:23.859
has on these people, dude. Just champ and resource

00:29:23.859 --> 00:29:26.579
type of situation. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, come on.

00:29:26.640 --> 00:29:29.640
I don't know what the hell is up with these TBC

00:29:29.640 --> 00:29:34.400
fighters, especially the WBA. The WBA loves PBC.

00:29:35.839 --> 00:29:39.359
It's like how WBO loves Top Rank. I mean, I could

00:29:39.359 --> 00:29:41.519
talk about the WBA with fucking Gervonta Davis

00:29:41.519 --> 00:29:45.039
himself, but I could talk about shit all day.

00:29:45.660 --> 00:29:50.319
Gross. It's fucking gross. I mean, demoting a

00:29:50.319 --> 00:29:55.339
fighter, taking away a fighter's champion status

00:29:55.339 --> 00:29:58.019
to elevate someone else, you know what I mean?

00:29:58.160 --> 00:30:02.440
It's fucking bullshit. Fucking WBA, they're a

00:30:02.440 --> 00:30:05.160
wild card, you know? Wait, you know one thing

00:30:05.160 --> 00:30:09.910
I just realized? What? Whenever... I've thought

00:30:09.910 --> 00:30:11.869
about this before, but I guess we're closer to

00:30:11.869 --> 00:30:16.289
it now. Whenever Bud steps in to fight Canelo,

00:30:16.529 --> 00:30:19.549
is that when he gets stripped? Does the belt

00:30:19.549 --> 00:30:23.069
vacate at that point? Or what's happening with

00:30:23.069 --> 00:30:25.369
that belt? That's supposed to be the kill switch,

00:30:25.589 --> 00:30:28.210
but they're probably not going to do that. They'll

00:30:28.210 --> 00:30:30.390
wait a few days until afterwards to see if he's

00:30:30.390 --> 00:30:33.750
going to go back down or not. That's bullshit.

00:30:33.990 --> 00:30:37.609
Seriously. And the point that... You know, at

00:30:37.609 --> 00:30:40.990
the point where he gets stripped, who then? Is

00:30:40.990 --> 00:30:44.230
someone elevated to champion? Or is it like a

00:30:44.230 --> 00:30:48.869
bacon skew? Damn. Oh, my God. David Barreau becoming

00:30:48.869 --> 00:30:51.809
a champion before a virtual is crazy. Oh, my

00:30:51.809 --> 00:30:58.809
God. That is. It's ridiculous. Man. Super fucking

00:30:58.809 --> 00:31:01.730
ridiculous. And Barreau. Isn't Barreau a PBC

00:31:01.730 --> 00:31:03.410
fighter? I don't know who said it, but someone

00:31:03.410 --> 00:31:08.150
said that Barreau is a PBC fighter. Is he? Someone

00:31:08.150 --> 00:31:10.390
said that. I said that he was an MVP fighter.

00:31:10.829 --> 00:31:15.630
And someone told me he was a PBC fighter. Yeah,

00:31:15.710 --> 00:31:19.930
time to look him up. Or he might be with some

00:31:19.930 --> 00:31:27.250
small -time promoter like... Yeah. He lost to

00:31:27.250 --> 00:31:33.470
Jack Colt Kay. That's fun. I'm not seeing who

00:31:33.470 --> 00:31:38.529
he's with. Coached by Adam Booth. Oh, wait. Is

00:31:38.529 --> 00:31:43.930
he with Wasserman? Wasserman box? He might actually

00:31:43.930 --> 00:31:48.509
be with Wasserman. If he's with Wasserman, then

00:31:48.509 --> 00:31:51.609
Wasserman's with... Wasserman's small time, though.

00:31:52.529 --> 00:32:00.549
Yeah. I don't fucking know. Moving to David Allen

00:32:00.549 --> 00:32:07.940
versus Arslanbek Makhmudov. The Neanderthal gets,

00:32:08.059 --> 00:32:11.759
continues to put him together, I guess, until

00:32:11.759 --> 00:32:16.539
he gets a shot at David Allen. I don't know.

00:32:16.740 --> 00:32:22.000
Yeah, this is, man, this is about as, like, this

00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:23.819
sort of sums up the state of the heavyweight

00:32:23.819 --> 00:32:29.740
division. Dyer. I mean, this is, in terms of

00:32:29.740 --> 00:32:34.410
name value, Makhmudov used to be something. Dave

00:32:34.410 --> 00:32:36.450
Allen right now is right in the high on his knockout

00:32:36.450 --> 00:32:42.769
over Johnny Fisher. It was a really nice knockout,

00:32:42.849 --> 00:32:46.609
but it was Johnny Fisher. But yeah, this is just...

00:32:46.609 --> 00:32:51.710
I'm going to watch it, but this is not big boxing,

00:32:51.769 --> 00:32:56.789
I guess. I will say as far as matchmaking goes,

00:32:56.829 --> 00:32:58.589
I guess this is sort of on the better end. At

00:32:58.589 --> 00:33:01.029
least it's... I mean, they aren't can crushing,

00:33:01.269 --> 00:33:05.240
at least. Yeah, I mean, I mean they're equal

00:33:05.240 --> 00:33:11.359
they are equal to yeah, yeah What are they even

00:33:11.359 --> 00:33:20.420
they're they're ratings Let's have a look My

00:33:20.420 --> 00:33:32.940
boot off like number 12 So good top dish no No.

00:33:32.940 --> 00:33:39.460
That's crazy. He's 77th. At that point, he needs

00:33:39.460 --> 00:33:43.740
to fight Richard Torres Jr. 77th and Makhmudov

00:33:43.740 --> 00:33:52.460
is 31st. That's box rec, so. Wait a minute. In

00:33:52.460 --> 00:33:56.519
a way, Jelalov. Jelalov is ranked higher? What?

00:33:56.819 --> 00:34:03.500
Pretty crazy. i mean but yeah i mean this isn't

00:34:03.500 --> 00:34:07.839
elite makhmudov i mean bro it's been years since

00:34:07.839 --> 00:34:11.260
he was like really a name a heavyweight yeah

00:34:11.260 --> 00:34:15.940
it's been a while i mean he's gotta he's gotta

00:34:15.940 --> 00:34:18.860
fight my mood i was gonna fight like tours or

00:34:18.860 --> 00:34:20.360
something torres gotta fight something like him

00:34:20.360 --> 00:34:29.099
wins this even like this is so like plotty Or

00:34:29.099 --> 00:34:31.079
like, you know, heavyweight power type fights.

00:34:31.260 --> 00:34:33.920
Yeah. I'm trying to think who even wins this.

00:34:36.320 --> 00:34:38.300
I'm going to go with David Allen just because

00:34:38.300 --> 00:34:42.480
it would be funny. Yeah, I mean. That's really

00:34:42.480 --> 00:34:45.900
it. Yeah, I'm probably going to be backing Dave

00:34:45.900 --> 00:34:50.679
Allen. I'm going to back my McMurdo just to be

00:34:50.679 --> 00:34:55.000
silly. Yeah. Yeah, I could flip a coin. Really,

00:34:55.139 --> 00:34:58.960
that's who I'll pick. I don't really care. All

00:34:58.960 --> 00:35:02.619
that much. I'm sure the Brits will be riding

00:35:02.619 --> 00:35:07.599
with their white rhino. Y 'all ever taken white

00:35:07.599 --> 00:35:15.380
rhino? Definitely patient about it. Let's skip

00:35:15.380 --> 00:35:18.820
ahead to the fucking recaps just because there's

00:35:18.820 --> 00:35:21.599
not a whole lot else after that. So the timing

00:35:21.599 --> 00:35:26.400
will work out pretty nicely. Provox at the Provox

00:35:26.400 --> 00:35:29.360
event center. In Florida. This was on YouTube.

00:35:29.679 --> 00:35:31.099
If you're not watching ProBucks, you fucking

00:35:31.099 --> 00:35:34.860
should be. Just some highlights. Gary Antonio

00:35:34.860 --> 00:35:39.780
Russell gets a UD over Dervin Rodriguez. He's

00:35:39.780 --> 00:35:44.320
a 122 fighter, and he's not very good. Another

00:35:44.320 --> 00:35:46.579
Russell, though. Yeah, he's got to keep himself

00:35:46.579 --> 00:35:51.340
in the family business. Marques Valle gets a

00:35:51.340 --> 00:35:57.179
stoppage in one over Luis Georges. Starling Castillo

00:35:57.179 --> 00:36:03.019
over Chouinard Bunch. And the headline, Muhammad

00:36:03.019 --> 00:36:07.300
Kuja Yakubov. Majority decision over William

00:36:07.300 --> 00:36:18.059
Foster III. Yakub, you demon person. That's it.

00:36:19.059 --> 00:36:22.559
Out of the light. That is very light. We got

00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:25.679
two more cards, but they're all... Well, one

00:36:25.679 --> 00:36:29.960
of them is also really light. Omar Trinidad gets

00:36:29.960 --> 00:36:34.139
the draw. Fucking scrapes it out over Lorenzo

00:36:34.139 --> 00:36:38.639
Parra. And Mizuki Hiruta, UD over Naomi Gomez.

00:36:41.699 --> 00:36:49.440
So that's fun. And the meat of the dish, the

00:36:49.440 --> 00:36:53.019
British... promoters came together to put together

00:36:53.019 --> 00:36:58.679
a Riyadh season card that had Hayato Tsutsumi

00:36:58.679 --> 00:37:03.940
stoppage in three over Kais Ashfak. Sorry, Saudis.

00:37:04.119 --> 00:37:08.480
Gonna have to try better than that. Filip Hergovich

00:37:08.480 --> 00:37:13.219
gets the UD over David Adelaide. Dude, this fight

00:37:13.219 --> 00:37:16.659
was actually, like, really good. Especially,

00:37:16.800 --> 00:37:18.300
like, one round. I forget. It was, like, round

00:37:18.300 --> 00:37:21.940
eight or something like that. where Hergovich

00:37:21.940 --> 00:37:26.760
got, like, no, he dropped Adelaide. And then,

00:37:26.780 --> 00:37:28.519
like, towards the end of the round, like, Adelaide

00:37:28.519 --> 00:37:31.059
rallied back and was, like, battering Hergovich.

00:37:31.059 --> 00:37:33.320
Like, somehow Hergovich didn't go down, but,

00:37:33.360 --> 00:37:34.719
like, it was, like, multiple hooks that he had

00:37:34.719 --> 00:37:38.679
landed on Hergovich. I mean, that one round was

00:37:38.679 --> 00:37:43.260
actually pretty crazy. But, yeah, Hergovich came

00:37:43.260 --> 00:37:45.719
up with the win. Adelaide's gas tank was just,

00:37:45.739 --> 00:37:48.030
like, non -existent. You know how bad your guys

00:37:48.030 --> 00:37:52.369
think is to gas before her, bitch? When you put

00:37:52.369 --> 00:37:59.570
it that way. Corrupted. Yeah. Ray Ford over Abraham

00:37:59.570 --> 00:38:04.570
Nova. It was Tom and Jerry Trunks, man. Was it?

00:38:05.369 --> 00:38:07.230
I think he was actually wearing Tom and Jerry

00:38:07.230 --> 00:38:11.769
Trunks. Right? Yeah. People are taking that Tom

00:38:11.769 --> 00:38:15.369
and Jerry shit a little too much to heart. I

00:38:15.369 --> 00:38:16.949
mean, you know who the ones that are taking it

00:38:16.949 --> 00:38:20.269
to heart? Tom and Jerry people? Tom and Jerry

00:38:20.269 --> 00:38:22.269
people, yeah. I mean, Ray Ford's not too much

00:38:22.269 --> 00:38:24.630
of a Tom and Jerry guy, but I was surprised.

00:38:24.690 --> 00:38:26.929
I'm like, dude, nobody was talking about you.

00:38:28.250 --> 00:38:32.610
Like, seriously. Yeah, this was sort of a weird

00:38:32.610 --> 00:38:35.030
fight. I mean, Nova coming in on a late replacement.

00:38:35.690 --> 00:38:37.409
Ford said that he was going to get him out of

00:38:37.409 --> 00:38:41.349
there. There was a lot of trash talk in the press

00:38:41.349 --> 00:38:45.170
conference, but the fight wasn't. Super crazy.

00:38:46.170 --> 00:38:50.550
It was sort of a weird play. Nova did hurt Ford

00:38:50.550 --> 00:38:52.269
a little bit in the beginning. I'm not going

00:38:52.269 --> 00:38:54.289
to lie. But that was for a small amount of time.

00:38:54.969 --> 00:38:57.949
That's what I was saying, though. Ford should

00:38:57.949 --> 00:39:02.269
have looked way better against Nova. Yeah, for

00:39:02.269 --> 00:39:04.510
sure. Yeah, he should have looked way better.

00:39:05.789 --> 00:39:10.789
Yeah, I mean, he could have won at least. I don't

00:39:10.789 --> 00:39:15.880
know. What does Ford do next? I mean, there's

00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:18.519
only one guy I think you should fight next. In

00:39:18.519 --> 00:39:21.119
my opinion. Because you're supposed to fight

00:39:21.119 --> 00:39:25.719
Kikachi. Dude, Nunes would mess him up bad. Nunes

00:39:25.719 --> 00:39:27.719
would mess him up real bad. Good -ass fight,

00:39:27.760 --> 00:39:31.039
though. I feel like, no, yeah, yeah. Just because

00:39:31.039 --> 00:39:33.400
I think Nunes would win doesn't mean we shouldn't

00:39:33.400 --> 00:39:37.280
get it. I would be down for that fight. Yeah,

00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:39.340
I mean, did Kikachi duck? That fight was supposed

00:39:39.340 --> 00:39:43.639
to happen on this card. And it didn't happen.

00:39:45.799 --> 00:39:48.420
Pikachu just should have abandoned this fight.

00:39:48.440 --> 00:39:50.619
They were scheduled and should have abandoned.

00:39:53.980 --> 00:40:00.239
Who's that guy you like? Floyd Schofield. But

00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:03.280
he's at 135. 135. We'll talk about him next week.

00:40:03.619 --> 00:40:05.639
Actually, we got some stuff about it. Some rumors.

00:40:05.900 --> 00:40:09.239
That's Saul's boy. That's my boy, yeah. That's

00:40:09.239 --> 00:40:12.260
my man. Floyd Schofield, if you're watching this,

00:40:12.360 --> 00:40:13.699
I've been supporting you since day one, dawg.

00:40:18.670 --> 00:40:30.010
Nick Ball has a performance. Dude, this was not

00:40:30.010 --> 00:40:34.289
good. This was not good. I was sort of expecting

00:40:34.289 --> 00:40:39.010
Nick Ball to nuke this dude. The only thing I

00:40:39.010 --> 00:40:43.030
really left this fight with was that one. Now

00:40:43.030 --> 00:40:45.929
you in a way would have absolutely nuked Sam

00:40:45.929 --> 00:40:51.000
Goodman. probably early and two nick ball is

00:40:51.000 --> 00:40:54.880
mid bro this dude does not you know i i actually

00:40:54.880 --> 00:40:57.480
used to think nick ball versus in a way would

00:40:57.480 --> 00:41:00.280
have been a competitive fight no longer and this

00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:02.619
is after the do any fight and this this the fight

00:41:02.619 --> 00:41:04.619
with goodman just completely like solidified

00:41:04.619 --> 00:41:08.300
that that thought process nick ball is not good

00:41:08.300 --> 00:41:12.300
bro he is not good and this man just Okay, yeah,

00:41:12.320 --> 00:41:14.280
go ahead. No, actually, no, finish it, finish

00:41:14.280 --> 00:41:17.800
it. I was going to say he's not good, bro. Like,

00:41:17.900 --> 00:41:22.559
I think he loses to a few other fighters at this

00:41:22.559 --> 00:41:25.179
weight division, not just, you know, in a way.

00:41:26.699 --> 00:41:30.179
Yeah, dude, this was not a good performance,

00:41:30.380 --> 00:41:33.800
man. I mean, Goodman had some success as well,

00:41:33.820 --> 00:41:35.960
and this was, like, sort of the weird part. There

00:41:35.960 --> 00:41:38.690
were some rounds where he had some success. And

00:41:38.690 --> 00:41:40.650
he was landed on ball. But yeah, this was just

00:41:40.650 --> 00:41:44.170
not a good performance from ball. I mean, some

00:41:44.170 --> 00:41:46.170
of us even thought they kind of won the fight.

00:41:47.789 --> 00:41:50.510
I don't know about that. I thought ball won.

00:41:51.550 --> 00:41:53.909
Yeah, I thought ball won, which is not a good

00:41:53.909 --> 00:41:58.829
performance. Yeah, I mean, some of us in the

00:41:58.829 --> 00:42:02.530
group, though, always have like some wild scorecard.

00:42:02.570 --> 00:42:05.489
There's always one person that has some egregious

00:42:05.489 --> 00:42:09.550
scorecard. Yeah. Of the other title holders,

00:42:09.809 --> 00:42:12.570
even though he's moving up, I'll still mention

00:42:12.570 --> 00:42:15.070
him. Stephen Fulton, fucking clown stickball.

00:42:15.489 --> 00:42:19.809
Oh, dude. So bad. So bad. Not even a little bit

00:42:19.809 --> 00:42:24.429
close. That's pretty much a free bill. I don't

00:42:24.429 --> 00:42:25.769
think it would happen, but that's a free bill

00:42:25.769 --> 00:42:32.090
for Fulton. Rafael Espinoza also beats his ass.

00:42:33.279 --> 00:42:35.559
Probably KO. I think, yeah. I was about to say,

00:42:35.579 --> 00:42:38.739
I think Rafael could stop him. That fight would

00:42:38.739 --> 00:42:42.539
look hilarious, bro. Oh, my God. The size difference

00:42:42.539 --> 00:42:45.559
between Ball and Espinosa would be hilarious.

00:42:47.000 --> 00:42:48.659
Angel, Angel, Leo would be a pretty good fight.

00:42:48.800 --> 00:42:50.739
That would be a good one. Also, a good fight,

00:42:50.800 --> 00:42:52.699
yeah. It'd be a nice war. I think Leo would get

00:42:52.699 --> 00:42:55.239
it done. You guys want to hear something atrocious?

00:42:56.159 --> 00:42:59.320
What? I'm really contemplating on saying this

00:42:59.320 --> 00:43:01.079
because I feel like I'm going to get clowned

00:43:01.079 --> 00:43:07.320
on. But I'm just gonna say anyways I think I

00:43:07.320 --> 00:43:09.619
don't think I'm sure this I don't think in a

00:43:09.619 --> 00:43:12.480
way I don't think Bobby's in a way, of course

00:43:12.480 --> 00:43:18.760
not but I Mean anyway going up to 126. He's already

00:43:18.760 --> 00:43:22.599
been dropped multiple times at 122 So he goes

00:43:22.599 --> 00:43:26.260
up to 126 and he gets hit by a ball shot pause

00:43:26.260 --> 00:43:33.469
Like I mean, yeah, Val doesn't have power for

00:43:33.469 --> 00:43:34.969
guys that had his own weight class, but guys

00:43:34.969 --> 00:43:36.730
that are, like, you know, under the weight class,

00:43:36.969 --> 00:43:39.750
you never know. Sam Goodman's under the weight

00:43:39.750 --> 00:43:42.269
class, though. He was moving up to 126 as well.

00:43:43.670 --> 00:43:46.550
Yeah, but how many weight divisions was Sam Goodman

00:43:46.550 --> 00:43:51.750
in before 122? Good question. I don't know. Because

00:43:51.750 --> 00:43:54.369
anyways, he's come all the way up from freaking,

00:43:54.469 --> 00:43:58.570
what is it, 115 or 118? Lower than 115. Oh, it's

00:43:58.570 --> 00:44:01.769
112, right? No, I think he skipped 112. I think

00:44:01.769 --> 00:44:06.989
he started at 108. Oh, okay. Dude, Saul, I'm

00:44:06.989 --> 00:44:10.730
going to be real with you, boss. Inouye nukes

00:44:10.730 --> 00:44:18.929
Ball probably like around 6 -7. Yeah, there's

00:44:18.929 --> 00:44:20.710
no question that he doesn't nuke Ball, but it's

00:44:20.710 --> 00:44:22.929
like it's going to be dangerous still for Inouye

00:44:22.929 --> 00:44:24.929
because he is going up in weight still, you know?

00:44:25.170 --> 00:44:27.210
It's like when Sugar Ray Leonard fought Daniel

00:44:27.210 --> 00:44:28.889
Lalonde, you know? Daniel Lalonde wasn't a good...

00:44:29.130 --> 00:44:32.289
Wasn't a really good fighter, but he was still

00:44:32.289 --> 00:44:33.989
dangerous. The weight division, the weight difference

00:44:33.989 --> 00:44:37.429
made it dangerous. I mean, yeah. And that's partially

00:44:37.429 --> 00:44:40.170
why. I mean, I used to think that Ball would

00:44:40.170 --> 00:44:42.809
be competitive with Inoue. And probably, you

00:44:42.809 --> 00:44:44.829
know, I used to think he could beat him. But

00:44:44.829 --> 00:44:50.349
I just think Inoue is too smart. I think Ball's

00:44:50.349 --> 00:44:53.650
style isn't what you need to beat Inoue, even

00:44:53.650 --> 00:44:55.289
with the weight difference. Like, you have to

00:44:55.289 --> 00:44:59.599
be a little bit smarter. I mean, probably, like,

00:44:59.699 --> 00:45:01.539
a better boxer, and that's not what Ball is.

00:45:01.760 --> 00:45:04.059
He's more of a brawler. Yeah, he tried to be

00:45:04.059 --> 00:45:06.500
a boxer this time, and it didn't go very well.

00:45:07.559 --> 00:45:09.980
Yeah, I mean, there was moments of success that

00:45:09.980 --> 00:45:13.139
Sam Goodman was having, even, like, sort of in

00:45:13.139 --> 00:45:15.940
the later rounds. I mean, you know, he didn't

00:45:15.940 --> 00:45:17.639
really win a lot of rounds, but he had certain

00:45:17.639 --> 00:45:24.420
moments where he did do good work. I don't think

00:45:24.420 --> 00:45:26.099
he has the package. He doesn't have the tools

00:45:26.099 --> 00:45:28.750
necessary, really, to... to be in a way, in my

00:45:28.750 --> 00:45:31.369
opinion. I don't think so either, but at the

00:45:31.369 --> 00:45:33.150
same time, I mean, look, this guy beat Ray Ford.

00:45:35.750 --> 00:45:38.489
Even that was like... It was a robbery. I think

00:45:38.489 --> 00:45:41.090
it was a robbery as well. But, you know. Either

00:45:41.090 --> 00:45:44.670
way, I don't want to sound like I'm trying to

00:45:44.670 --> 00:45:47.670
support Nick Ball. I hope he loses his title.

00:45:47.750 --> 00:45:49.630
I was praying he loses his title against fucking

00:45:49.630 --> 00:45:53.829
Sam Goodman. But, in my opinion, I just think

00:45:53.829 --> 00:45:56.510
that that weight jumper, in a way, another weight

00:45:56.510 --> 00:45:58.769
class like that, Any fighter he fights is going

00:45:58.769 --> 00:46:01.329
to knock him out. But not going to knock him

00:46:01.329 --> 00:46:04.230
out. No, no, no, no, no. He has a chance of knocking

00:46:04.230 --> 00:46:07.989
him down. That's the better way to put it. Well,

00:46:08.010 --> 00:46:09.769
pretty much anyone has a chance of knocking him

00:46:09.769 --> 00:46:14.550
down, as we have learned. Yeah, but at 126, it's

00:46:14.550 --> 00:46:18.389
a lot more dangerous. True. That jump is pretty

00:46:18.389 --> 00:46:23.230
gnarly. No. But that's my opinion. That's my

00:46:23.230 --> 00:46:26.750
opinion. Anybody at 126 besides Stephen Bolton,

00:46:27.559 --> 00:46:30.320
well, probably has a better chance of knocking

00:46:30.320 --> 00:46:37.340
down in a way. Did Fulton cut off his rat tail?

00:46:38.599 --> 00:46:44.599
Yeah, thank God. It is? Oh, good. I was just

00:46:44.599 --> 00:46:47.179
thinking, like, is that something he started

00:46:47.179 --> 00:46:49.900
wearing? Like, he grew it out, like, I'll cut

00:46:49.900 --> 00:46:52.559
it off when someone beats me kind of thing? That's

00:46:52.559 --> 00:46:55.260
actually hilarious. That would be funny if that's

00:46:55.260 --> 00:46:57.789
what he did. Oh, was it? Garden also has a rat

00:46:57.789 --> 00:47:00.829
tail, no? Yeah, he does. Yeah, man, there's too

00:47:00.829 --> 00:47:03.349
many of those. Too many of those going around.

00:47:05.170 --> 00:47:06.670
Isaac, I thought you had a rat tail at one point.

00:47:07.590 --> 00:47:12.789
No, no, that's never been the case. I know you

00:47:12.789 --> 00:47:16.070
got a mullet going, right? I know you got that

00:47:16.070 --> 00:47:18.409
mullet going. Mullets are fashionable right now.

00:47:19.130 --> 00:47:21.710
Yeah, so I got that mullet going. I don't got

00:47:21.710 --> 00:47:24.030
a mullet, bro. No, I know you got that mullet.

00:47:24.630 --> 00:47:31.500
I've never had a mullet. Moses Atalma stops Dillian

00:47:31.500 --> 00:47:34.440
White in the first. Not even remotely competitive.

00:47:37.099 --> 00:47:40.420
Is this Dillian White being complete garbage?

00:47:41.260 --> 00:47:45.820
Or is Atalma the truth? I think it's a mix of

00:47:45.820 --> 00:47:49.119
both. I think it's most likely a mix of both.

00:47:49.139 --> 00:47:54.519
White is beyond wash. Before we move on, White

00:47:54.519 --> 00:47:57.340
is talking about... How this isn't the end. He's

00:47:57.340 --> 00:48:01.679
going to come back. He needs to retire. He's

00:48:01.679 --> 00:48:06.280
got to hang him up. This is beyond over. His

00:48:06.280 --> 00:48:10.300
legs are gone. Balance gone. We saw in the Teta

00:48:10.300 --> 00:48:15.420
fight, he gassed. It's not good. He's going to

00:48:15.420 --> 00:48:19.239
keep getting hurt. He didn't get flatlined here

00:48:19.239 --> 00:48:22.440
at least. He got pretty much beat up the entire

00:48:22.440 --> 00:48:25.400
fight. He was on the ropes, barely hanging on.

00:48:26.019 --> 00:48:29.460
And tied by being 90 seconds. Yeah, this was

00:48:29.460 --> 00:48:33.059
bad. But yeah, I mean, Ntama, you know, did what

00:48:33.059 --> 00:48:34.860
we expected him to do, especially considering

00:48:34.860 --> 00:48:40.079
White, you know, his current state. But yeah,

00:48:40.139 --> 00:48:44.139
I mean, Ntama, good man for, you know, he did

00:48:44.139 --> 00:48:46.920
exactly what he was supposed to do in this type

00:48:46.920 --> 00:48:51.130
of competition. Yeah, that's true. But, yeah,

00:48:51.210 --> 00:48:53.309
I'm really excited to see who they match him

00:48:53.309 --> 00:48:55.469
up with next, though, because, like, it's going

00:48:55.469 --> 00:48:59.929
to be that type of step up where, you know, now

00:48:59.929 --> 00:49:04.090
we're going to see how are you going to do if

00:49:04.090 --> 00:49:06.469
the fight goes, you know, round five, round six,

00:49:06.570 --> 00:49:08.269
and, you know, this is an elite competition.

00:49:09.710 --> 00:49:12.530
You know, I've heard a few names tossed around.

00:49:13.670 --> 00:49:17.690
One of the big ones being Herkovich, who just

00:49:17.690 --> 00:49:20.820
beat David Adelaide and other... UK fighter.

00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:24.300
So it's... I'd actually be down to see that fight.

00:49:24.360 --> 00:49:28.119
Yeah, it's a reason. We're also hearing... We're

00:49:28.119 --> 00:49:31.340
also hearing a fucking Otama versus Usyk. Yeah,

00:49:31.460 --> 00:49:35.380
dude. Yeah, that's... I know Turkey himself has

00:49:35.380 --> 00:49:37.639
been going... Like, he's been wanting that fight.

00:49:38.380 --> 00:49:40.360
But, dude, he's... What is it? Otama's 20 years

00:49:40.360 --> 00:49:43.840
old? Yeah, that's Russian. Like, come on, bro.

00:49:43.900 --> 00:49:46.480
Let this dude... Let this dude fight someone.

00:49:46.480 --> 00:49:48.940
Somebody sack up and tell him to sit the fuck

00:49:48.940 --> 00:49:52.780
down. Like, dude, that's a stupid fight to make.

00:49:52.860 --> 00:49:55.219
That is dumb. Do not do that. I'm going to ruin

00:49:55.219 --> 00:49:58.719
this dude's career. Like, let him build up to

00:49:58.719 --> 00:50:00.940
this point. I don't know about ruin, but it would

00:50:00.940 --> 00:50:04.440
really set it back. Seriously derail it. Yeah,

00:50:05.239 --> 00:50:08.239
considering how he built. But I will say, if

00:50:08.239 --> 00:50:10.940
he did fight Usyk, I will say that would be pretty

00:50:10.940 --> 00:50:14.519
crazy because, I don't know, I think that fucking,

00:50:14.619 --> 00:50:17.920
like, Talma, he just, he might. He might surprise

00:50:17.920 --> 00:50:19.500
us all. You never know. He's got the good...

00:50:19.500 --> 00:50:22.059
No. Well, hold on, hold on, hold on. I don't

00:50:22.059 --> 00:50:25.599
know about that. Okay, I've been kind of like

00:50:25.599 --> 00:50:27.380
glazing Brits a little bit too much today, so

00:50:27.380 --> 00:50:31.019
I got to stop after this. But I will say this.

00:50:31.519 --> 00:50:35.159
Itama passed the dye test for me. I mean, yeah.

00:50:35.619 --> 00:50:38.460
But like, you're talking about... Okay, I want

00:50:38.460 --> 00:50:42.099
you to think about this. How big is the gap between

00:50:42.099 --> 00:50:45.340
current Dillian White? And Alexander Usyk. How

00:50:45.340 --> 00:50:48.820
big is that gap? That gap's fucking crazy. It's

00:50:48.820 --> 00:50:50.639
like a double boogie type gap. It's Grand Canyon.

00:50:54.539 --> 00:50:57.880
I'm not saying Usyk's like Dillian White. I'm

00:50:57.880 --> 00:50:59.199
not even saying that the fight should happen.

00:50:59.280 --> 00:51:01.179
I think that is a dumb fight as well. But the

00:51:01.179 --> 00:51:05.340
thing is that, honestly, that would be a crazy

00:51:05.340 --> 00:51:10.800
-ass fight to watch. As a Pocky fan myself, Just

00:51:10.800 --> 00:51:13.219
for like pure spectacle, I would much rather

00:51:13.219 --> 00:51:15.179
watch that than a Joseph Parker versus Usyk fight.

00:51:15.440 --> 00:51:19.320
Because I know for sure Joseph Parker's not winning

00:51:19.320 --> 00:51:23.059
that fight. I know that guaranteed. Yeah, but

00:51:23.059 --> 00:51:27.980
I'm pretty sure Italma wouldn't win either. See,

00:51:28.559 --> 00:51:30.739
the thing is that you can make the argument,

00:51:30.900 --> 00:51:31.980
I'm going to try to make the argument that I

00:51:31.980 --> 00:51:34.000
think Italma has a better chance of beating Usyk

00:51:34.000 --> 00:51:37.460
than fucking Joseph Parker. Okay, see, that is

00:51:37.460 --> 00:51:42.590
a more like... That is a more reasonable type

00:51:42.590 --> 00:51:45.610
of argument that you can make, but I do think

00:51:45.610 --> 00:51:49.469
that Usyk still beats him. The speed advantage

00:51:49.469 --> 00:51:54.030
is not... Itama wouldn't have the same type of

00:51:54.030 --> 00:51:56.210
speed advantage. I think Itama is probably faster,

00:51:56.449 --> 00:52:01.389
but he's not as fast as the opponents he's been

00:52:01.389 --> 00:52:03.369
facing. Usyk isn't that slow. He's not as slow

00:52:03.369 --> 00:52:08.230
as White. He's not as slow as the Australian

00:52:08.230 --> 00:52:11.639
dude he fought. And laid out. I mean, Usyk is

00:52:11.639 --> 00:52:14.719
much faster, but on top of that, Usyk is more

00:52:14.719 --> 00:52:19.139
experienced. He's smarter. And this is the thing

00:52:19.139 --> 00:52:23.119
as well. Usyk wouldn't even be that much smaller

00:52:23.119 --> 00:52:26.760
than a Tama if they fought. He would not be that

00:52:26.760 --> 00:52:29.659
much smaller. And we know Usyk can hang with

00:52:29.659 --> 00:52:33.019
bigger dudes. I mean, it's... Yeah. Tama's only

00:52:33.019 --> 00:52:34.500
been knocking out cans, so the thing is we don't

00:52:34.500 --> 00:52:35.599
really know if that power is really going to

00:52:35.599 --> 00:52:39.079
carry over to the regular contenders. You know?

00:52:40.229 --> 00:52:42.570
But, hey, call me crazy. Call me crazy, okay?

00:52:43.309 --> 00:52:45.969
I'm just saying, out of all the heavyweights

00:52:45.969 --> 00:52:51.030
right now, besides Deontay Wilder, why was I

00:52:51.030 --> 00:52:52.269
telling him he's got the best shot against this?

00:52:53.090 --> 00:52:56.309
Call me crazy. But I'm not saying that. That's

00:52:56.309 --> 00:52:59.150
pretty wild, man. Well, seriously, who else do

00:52:59.150 --> 00:53:01.349
you think can, besides Cabo, actually, I take

00:53:01.349 --> 00:53:03.369
it back. Besides Cabo, yeah. Cabo, yeah. That's

00:53:03.369 --> 00:53:06.489
what I was going to say. Cabo, yeah. Cabo, yeah.

00:53:06.849 --> 00:53:12.079
His body shots. I think Moses Thomas is a better

00:53:12.079 --> 00:53:15.800
shot than Parker. The Wilder thing was kind of

00:53:15.800 --> 00:53:17.300
a joke, by the way. That was also a joke for

00:53:17.300 --> 00:53:20.739
anybody listening. That's a joke. This is also

00:53:20.739 --> 00:53:23.400
a Wilder thing as well. First of all, the heavyweight

00:53:23.400 --> 00:53:25.619
division is in a bit of a dire state at the moment.

00:53:26.500 --> 00:53:28.219
It's in the middle of a guard change. A lot of

00:53:28.219 --> 00:53:31.699
people are leaving. There's just not a lot of

00:53:31.699 --> 00:53:41.920
super top talent as well. I mean... I don't know,

00:53:41.940 --> 00:53:47.500
man. I feel like the... Like, how do you rate

00:53:47.500 --> 00:53:51.139
Atama really? Like, yes, he nuked White. That

00:53:51.139 --> 00:53:54.559
is good to see. It is a good indicator of, you

00:53:54.559 --> 00:53:57.280
know, him being good. But, like, I need to see

00:53:57.280 --> 00:54:01.619
him tested more. I need to see him... I need,

00:54:01.619 --> 00:54:05.219
like, before I can, like, accurately sort of

00:54:05.219 --> 00:54:09.460
start to guess how Usyk versus Atama would really

00:54:09.460 --> 00:54:12.559
go. I need to see, you know, how would a Tomo

00:54:12.559 --> 00:54:15.679
do versus a Michael Herkovich? You know, like,

00:54:15.780 --> 00:54:18.679
how would he do versus, you know, another name

00:54:18.679 --> 00:54:22.199
that was a good one. Yeah. I think Joseph Parker

00:54:22.199 --> 00:54:24.579
would be a perfect fight for him. If he were

00:54:24.579 --> 00:54:26.139
to, like, if they were to try to have him fight

00:54:26.139 --> 00:54:28.019
Usyk, that would be a perfect fight. Yeah, that'd

00:54:28.019 --> 00:54:32.820
be a good setup. Yeah. Yeah. I think Mosley Thomas

00:54:32.820 --> 00:54:35.139
should fight a Richard Torres Jr. next, in my

00:54:35.139 --> 00:54:40.190
opinion. Oh, dude. Well, I can step up from fucking

00:54:40.190 --> 00:54:42.250
Dillian White. Yeah, but I don't want to see

00:54:42.250 --> 00:54:44.329
my boy get laid out either. I mean, Richard Torres

00:54:44.329 --> 00:54:48.889
is my boy. Hey, you never know. That would be

00:54:48.889 --> 00:54:50.329
hilarious, but I'm going to be honest with you,

00:54:50.349 --> 00:54:53.429
I don't think that happens. I don't think that

00:54:53.429 --> 00:54:56.630
happens. No, that's just wishful thinking. Yeah,

00:54:58.170 --> 00:55:00.349
but I mean, going back to it, like I do think,

00:55:00.489 --> 00:55:05.710
I mean, Atama even said it himself in the post

00:55:05.710 --> 00:55:07.679
-fight interview whenever they asked him. He

00:55:07.679 --> 00:55:10.980
said he is willing to fight Usyk next, but, like,

00:55:10.980 --> 00:55:14.039
he does think that Joseph Parker deserves that

00:55:14.039 --> 00:55:16.539
title shot. And, like, if we're going on merit,

00:55:16.739 --> 00:55:19.320
Joseph Parker probably deserves that title shot.

00:55:19.360 --> 00:55:23.239
He's in a big win streak. I mean, the whole,

00:55:23.340 --> 00:55:25.739
the circumstances revolving around that Bacoli

00:55:25.739 --> 00:55:29.199
fight are a bit weird, with it being a short

00:55:29.199 --> 00:55:33.719
notice, but he probably deserves it. Yeah, I

00:55:33.719 --> 00:55:36.639
mean, it's, you know, I'm... What I'm most excited

00:55:36.639 --> 00:55:40.920
about is what is the next opponent for Atama.

00:55:41.219 --> 00:55:44.059
And you know what the cool part here is, is that

00:55:44.059 --> 00:55:49.719
Atama beat Didion White in like, you know, less

00:55:49.719 --> 00:55:54.619
than half a round, really. So no damage. It's

00:55:54.619 --> 00:55:56.980
not like his cardio was really super tested.

00:55:57.079 --> 00:55:59.480
So we could really, we could see him again end

00:55:59.480 --> 00:56:04.179
of year, really. And he's young. hopefully they

00:56:04.179 --> 00:56:05.739
can get that scheduled for him. Frank Warren

00:56:05.739 --> 00:56:09.880
is a decent promoter, so hopefully they get someone

00:56:09.880 --> 00:56:14.300
good for him. I mean, realistically, the most

00:56:14.300 --> 00:56:17.760
realistic fight would probably be probably either

00:56:17.760 --> 00:56:22.760
Hergovich or maybe even Parker. I feel like Hergovich

00:56:22.760 --> 00:56:28.420
most likely. If Jean comes back, maybe, but he

00:56:28.420 --> 00:56:32.800
is also... We saw it in the... in the copy i'll

00:56:32.800 --> 00:56:37.099
find man he looked bad um just like zero gas

00:56:37.099 --> 00:56:42.619
thing who is who is um who is hergevich with

00:56:42.619 --> 00:56:48.380
weaver right who's this promoter who is frank

00:56:48.380 --> 00:56:50.940
i thought he was frank warren hergevich is frank

00:56:50.940 --> 00:56:55.019
warren yeah oh no no he's with um no he's with

00:56:55.019 --> 00:56:59.519
uh mushroom oh okay so i'd have to be I mean,

00:56:59.539 --> 00:57:01.500
I guess Eddie has worked with the Saudis before,

00:57:01.619 --> 00:57:06.880
so it wouldn't be impossible. Yeah, I'm trying

00:57:06.880 --> 00:57:11.699
to think who else. Oh, dude, wait a minute. What

00:57:11.699 --> 00:57:16.139
if they did... Oh, this would be crazy. Dubois

00:57:16.139 --> 00:57:19.940
versus Atama. Oh, you know what? Actually, that's

00:57:19.940 --> 00:57:24.119
not bad. And that's in -house as well. In -house.

00:57:24.179 --> 00:57:27.500
And Dubois is a pretty big name, too. For the

00:57:27.500 --> 00:57:31.070
bridge? You know, if Atoma beats Dubois, now

00:57:31.070 --> 00:57:35.090
we're really talking, okay, Atoma actually deserves

00:57:35.090 --> 00:57:39.650
a potential shot here if he beats Dubois. Like,

00:57:39.690 --> 00:57:43.110
that is a real elite name, top of the division.

00:57:44.170 --> 00:57:46.210
Like, you know, we're talking about he's putting

00:57:46.210 --> 00:57:48.929
some weight behind his name now. I got a good

00:57:48.929 --> 00:57:52.309
one. I got a good one. Tyson Fury. Oh, come on.

00:57:52.309 --> 00:57:59.340
Oh, my God, no. The issue with Tyson is that

00:57:59.340 --> 00:58:03.280
he's wanting these massive purses now. That's

00:58:03.280 --> 00:58:06.840
why he's trying to retire, un -retire as a negotiating

00:58:06.840 --> 00:58:11.059
type. He wants these 90 million, 80 million plus

00:58:11.059 --> 00:58:14.579
type purses. That's really only going to happen

00:58:14.579 --> 00:58:19.599
with the likes of Usyk or Joshua. Anthony Joshua.

00:58:20.400 --> 00:58:33.510
Yeah. Well, damn. Yeah, it's a bright future,

00:58:33.650 --> 00:58:38.269
man. Thomas' future is indeed bright. It's good

00:58:38.269 --> 00:58:41.769
to see. Jared Anderson, how about that? No, that's

00:58:41.769 --> 00:58:46.250
not happening. Oh, man. Frank Warren and Bob

00:58:46.250 --> 00:58:52.030
Arum get on pretty well. Yeah, I mean, Frank

00:58:52.030 --> 00:58:55.489
Warren is British. You know, Bob Arum. Yeah.

00:59:00.859 --> 00:59:04.699
All right. If that's it, that's all we got. Unless

00:59:04.699 --> 00:59:10.159
you guys have any news that came up in the meantime.

00:59:12.739 --> 00:59:14.539
I'm going to save that news for next week. All

00:59:14.539 --> 00:59:23.860
right. Let me put the outro shit in here. So,

00:59:23.860 --> 00:59:26.219
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Oof, those ads were tough. But we're heading

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into nothing fucking weekend. What do we have?

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Darren Till versus Tony Ferguson? Hell yeah.

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Is that what we got? It's the biggest we got.

01:01:59.639 --> 01:02:02.679
It's the best we got. Wow. Missed it. Our cup

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runneth over. Oh my goodness. But there we go.

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My steak is too juicy. My lobster is too fat.

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Lobster's buttery. Can't handle it. Parting words.

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hold tight we've been in these spots before these

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type of light weeks but it gets better the end

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of the year is on the way and you know for boxing

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the end of the year is top tier so yeah just

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hold tight I don't know about good car, but it's

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all right. It's all right. It's all right. Coast

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leads is fighting. After this week, we're going

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to enter the promised land. Okay? I guarantee

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you guys. Yeah, once we hit the autumn season.

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Yeah. End of this 500 days of summer crap. Oh,

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God. At least we got some rain over here. That

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was nice. Oh, yeah. right if that's it then that's

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it for this edition of the boxing besides we'll

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see you on the other side of oh darren till and

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tony ferguson goodness gracious i'm so excited

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all right see you on the other side